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Exclusive: Crypto Vic on the Future of Meme Coins, Crypto & Life 🚀 · SILVER / GOLD / $UFD Meme Coin Investing & Global Economics

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  Welcome to the live stream. We have a special guest today,
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  our friend Crypto Victoria. He's a member of the UFD
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  community, super respected in the overall crypto community.
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  Victoria, welcome to Ron's basement.
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  Welcome to Duster Daily. How are you doing today?
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  Oh, we're on dude. I'm doing great bro.
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  Appreciate you having me again. This is like, what is this, our
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  third or fourth live together? I think it is, yeah.
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  We always seem to have great stimulating conversation, right
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  where I feel like, well, at least from my perspective, I go
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  away learning something. And I know you give a lot of
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  great value to our community, but we were talking before we
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  came online. You have over 200 million,
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  probably closer to 250, three, 100 million lifetime views
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  across all of your social media channels.
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  It's obvious to me that you're providing value to people.
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  And what's most important to me is I know that you do it in a
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  very, I think, transparent, honest and ethical way.
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  So it's a it's a big privilege to have you here on the show,
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  Vic. Hey, man, I appreciate it.
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  Yeah, I think like in crypto, too many, too many and honest
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  people get away with shady things.
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  So when you're not anonymous, like you got to keep it real
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  honestly, like what other option you got?
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  But I just feel like, you know, that's in anything that I do is
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  just be authentic, be genuine. If you're not, if you are not
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  authentic and genuine, I feel like it just kind of eats away
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  at your soul. So I just try to keep it real
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  man, just like you. Yeah, you know, that's a, that's
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  a good point. The other thing I like to
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  remember also, cuz I'm 55 years old, I've learned it's a lot
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  easier to live that way, right? Like nobody's absolutely
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  perfect. We've all made our mistakes in
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  life, but man, it's a lot easier just to be yourself and also
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  just be honest. It's much simpler, you know, you
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  don't have a bunch of stories you got to keep up with or
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  anything like that, so. Yeah, for sure, they say.
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  The truth always comes out. Yeah, right.
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  Well, that's, you know, that's what I love about crypto.
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  This whole idea of, you know, one of the things I learned
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  early on, this idea of transparency, you know, the
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  blockchain is, is very transparent in terms of the
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  transactions that go on. And you know, I don't know how
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  you feel about this, but to me it feels like even in crypto, it
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  feel in the not in the nine months that I've been in it like
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  eventually the truth comes out. Is that is that a a safe
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  assessment in your opinion? Yeah, yeah, for sure.
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  I think it's just best to have nothing to hide.
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  Like if you just have nothing to hide, then like if it comes out,
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  you know, you're just like bro, I've been saying this the whole
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  time like I'm not hiding anything.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep, keep moving, keep moving
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  forward. I try to tell the UFD community
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  because sometimes people get frustrated with all the rug
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  poles and some of the shenanigans that go on out
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  there. And, and I like to say, hey, you
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  know, the best thing we can do as a community is adhere to the
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  original ethos of crypto, adhere to what our community stands
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  for. Good attracts good, honesty,
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  integrity. And the best way that we can
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  have a big impact on crypto is by us being successful.
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  Because if you're focused too much on the negativity out
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  there, there's that saying, right, if you, if you roll with
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  the pigs, you're going to get dirty.
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  And there's a lot of good people.
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  I I think in crypto there's a lot of most people are good that
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  I've run into. Yeah, for sure.
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  I think in your community, definitely I, I've encountered
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  the, the lesser people for sure here and there.
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  But I mean, it's, it's a, it's a wild, Wild West situation.
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  You're going to have the heroes and the villains and that's just
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  the nature of humanity, it seems.
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  And on the blockchain, things are just real.
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  It's just real. It's a real place where people
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  feel like they don't necessarily need to be held accountable
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  because like they're really not being held accountable for
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  anything they do wrong. So I, I then it just comes down
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  to morals and how you were raised and what you believe in,
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  right, and what compass you follow.
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  And so it, it definitely is split.
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  I don't know if it's 5050, I don't know if it's 8020, but
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  it's definitely, it's definitely good guys and bad guys out here,
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  that's for sure. Well, I, I, I believe the good
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  guys are winning and I know there's other, you know, I think
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  our community is great. There's great people like you,
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  there's other great crypto communities and great projects
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  and, and I think that I think that in the end, you know, the
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  market or the invisible hand or however you want to say it, that
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  the, that the good people will, will prevail.
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  But it does. I agree with you 100%, Victoria.
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  I mean, like when I got into crypto 9 months and two days
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  ago, I thought, and I got into meme coins.
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  Like I knew a little bit about meme coins.
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  I knew what doge was and you know, but in my mind it was a
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  bunch of cute little animal cartoon pictures.
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  And I thought, oh, I'm going to, you know, was it when it first
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  when Unicorn fart this happened, I thought, oh, I'm going into
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  this nice place with, you know, these cute little animal
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  pictures. And I learned real quickly that
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  it is the Wild West, especially the meme coin sector.
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  I think it's a great and I mean it is look like I I with my gold
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  and silver channel and business, I dealt with a lot of CE OS of
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  big publicly traded companies and I knew like the laws and the
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  rules they had to adhere to. And I'll tell you man, in the
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  crypto world and in the mean coin sector, it is the Wild
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  West. And, and I guess that'll lead me
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  into my first question for you. If I, if I forced you to give a
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  prediction about like where you would see the meme coin sector
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  18 months from now, do you think there's going to be a, a big
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  difference from what we're experiencing now?
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  Do you have any thoughts on that?
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  Yeah, I do for sure. This is actually, I'm actually
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  making a video about this right now because I do have like a
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  very strong opinion about where things are going.
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  So basically we're at a, we're in a place right now where 80%,
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  I'm going to say an 8020, but it's more like 99 one like 99%
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  of tokens that launch are just malicious like they're done with
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  the intention to extract money out of the market, which is the
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  reality of it. If you go and you go on Axiom
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  and you trench, you're going to you're going to get wrecked.
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  Like if you don't know what you're doing, like you're just
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  going to fall into a trap and get rug pulled.
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  Hopefully you don't put too much of your port in it.
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  The 1% projects like this, big projects that have a big
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  community, right, that have lasted stood the test of time
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  and have people showing up, have people rallying around around.
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  I don't think these projects are going to go anywhere.
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  I do think that the trenchers who want a quick flip and who
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  want to basically battle against each other because that's what
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  they're doing, they're kind of like PvP ING against each other.
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  I think that they're going to migrate over to a new brand or
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  new evolution of the ecosystem. So like, this has been my thesis
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  for a while, months and months now.
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  And I teamed up with two different agencies to build a
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  game. So we actually just launched it
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  on Monday and we're playing it again tomorrow on Friday.
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  And it's like an arena based game where you PvP against other
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  players on Solana. So you get that same PvP
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  experience, but it's based on your skill.
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  You can't get rugged. And it's like really fun, really
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  streamable content. And that it's called dot PvP.
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  That's where I think that the, the, the trenches are going to a
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  place where you don't have to worry about getting rugged.
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  You can still PvP against other people and hit multiples.
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  Like when I played the first time I streamed dot PVPI hit a
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  3X on what I've on what I've played with.
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  So like you can still hit multiples.
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  You're still playing against other people, but you're like
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  eliminating this whole am I going to get rugged?
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  Is the coin bundled? Is the dev, you know, using side
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  wallets like what's going on here?
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  I don't trust it. It's kind of eliminating all
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  that, but still keeping the fun essence and the competitive
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  essence of I have my Solana, I am battling against other people
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  and I'm going to try and win their solana.
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  And that's literally what trenching and trading meme coins
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  is. Because when you look at like
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  the profitability. So I I think my mics turned down
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  a little bit. No, you sound you sound great
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  on. My end.
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  Is that good? Yeah.
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  Yeah. And I'm and I'm right.
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  Is that when I'm not looking at you or the audience or our
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  viewer? And by the way, everybody please
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  retweet this. It's because as you talk, I'm
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  writing down a list of questions for you.
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  So trying not, I'm trying not to interrupt you.
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  Go, go ahead. No worries, No worries.
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  When you look at like the top traders of a meme coin, which is
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  pretty easy to do, you just go like even on deck Screener you
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  can see top traders. On axe you can see top traders.
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  It's a very small percentage of the traders that were in a coin
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  are the ones that actually make money.
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  Like if you're in a coin out out of like 100% of the traders in a
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  coin, there's going to be like 5% of them who are actually
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  profitable and 95% of them who are not.
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  And they're profitable because they won that money off of those
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  other players, those other traders, right?
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  It's basically a game even like the top Eemcoin traders, the big
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  famous ones like cupsy and orangey and stuff, Those are all
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  they, they used to be Fortnite players, like they were pros,
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  right? So they come from PvP gaming.
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  And I think that it's going to come full circle.
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  I think that trenching on a day-to-day basis is going to get
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  replaced by more formalized gaming that allows for the same
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  experience. And then the communities that
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  are going to stay strong are going to stay strong.
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  They'll migrate more over to like an altcoin status.
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  So that's where I see UFD going. It's like it's going to be
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  compared to just like Dogecoin. It's like when you think of
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  Dogecoin, it's not a meme coin. Like that's an altcoin, you
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  know, it's like top ten. Same with Sheba.
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  It's not a meme coin, it's an altcoin.
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  UFDSPX, Giga, like these big, big, big ones, they're going to
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  be converted and kind of put into like the Hall of Fame, I
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  guess, of meme coin and evolve into all coins.
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  And I think that meme coin culture in the sense of
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  day-to-day trading will eventually migrate and die off
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  into a PvP gaming culture. That's what I think is going to
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  happen. Yeah, I, I, I agree with you
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  100% and you, you know, enlighten me.
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  And, and, and added, added actually a lot of depth to what
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  I was kind of feeling inside that like at some point when
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  9590% of the people are out there doing this PvP, which
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  means like player versus player, right?
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  Like there's a winner and there's a loser exactly battling
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  it out. Like Fortnite and my daughters
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  play Fortnite. I've watched it extensively,
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  right? There's only one person who wins
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  in the end, right? What do they call that?
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  A battle Royale. Victory Royale or Battery
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  Royale? Battle Royale.
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  Yeah. But when it comes to money and
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  people and, you know, learning, I think it just feels like that
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  as, as the, as the sector progresses, I mean, how many
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  times are you going to bang your head against the wall until you
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  finally decide like, I don't want to bang my head against the
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  wall and, or you. Just like don't have the money
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  anymore to bang your head against the wall like you're
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  you're rinsed. We call it your you're rinsed
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  bro. Like that's what we say rinsed.
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  OK, I'm learning all kinds of stuff.
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  I love it Rinsed. You're rinsed once all these
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  people get rinsed and spun through the, the, the washing
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  machine, they're going to be like, they're going to be like,
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  I want something safe. And there's a guy in our
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  community King cause who's very smart and involved.
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  And he said this to me and I wrote it down on one of my
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  millions of sheets of paper here.
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  Like you want UFD to be. And I think UFD is like safe and
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  reliable. So that like all these people
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  that are in the trenches that like, but maybe they know about
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  UFD and at some point they finally just say, you know what?
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  I just want to be part of whether it's UFD or SPX 6900 or
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  Pudgy or any other. And there's a lot of other,
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  there's a, like, I think you said the Hall of Fame like that.
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  They I want to go to the Hall of Fame, forget this.
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  It's so different, right? Like going in and battling
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  everyday and basically 90 having a 9095% chance that you're going
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  to lose money versus getting involved with the community
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  where we really have this gift of Web 3 and you know, the the
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  blockchain and like you, we can really make a difference in
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  these projects. Yeah, I really appreciate what
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  you said, Victoria, because it's, it's what I see happening
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  as well. Like we don't need like some big
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  sheriff to come into town and and regulate everything and say,
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  I'm like, we just need the good projects to be there.
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  The Hall of Fame, as you said, in which I hope UFD gets
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  inducted someday, but to be there available and proving
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  themselves. And I, I do I, I agree with you.
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  I think there's going to be a handful of projects that 18
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  months from now are standing out and we're going to have a much
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  different landscape out. There 100%, yeah, it's going to
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  be very, it'll be very different in 18 months.
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  It'll be so different. Like how old is UFG?
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  It's like what, like 8 years old?
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  Nine months. Yeah, like that.
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  Like, but it feels like years, like it feels like years, right.
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  So I mean it just flew like it didn't fly by.
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  Just crypto timing is just such a weird vortex like you know
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  what I mean? Like one week.
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  I know what you mean though. It's like 6 months in
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  traditional world, you know? Yeah, Yeah, I know what you
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  mean. And I wrote it was one of my
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  questions for you. As you were talking, you said
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  there's going to be some of the projects that stood the test of
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  time. And I kind of laughed.
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  I thought is 9 months the test of time?
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  I mean, I like to think we've proven, we've proven we're not a
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  gambling token. That was the big thing when I
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  first got in the first couple of months, people would say there's
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  gambling tokens, right, which I think are the PvP, you know, the
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  trenching, trenching, Yeah. And and then there's like the
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  other tokens that are in in, do you think nine months?
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  I mean, I don't think we've arrived by any stretch of the
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  imagination, but I think UFD and some other projects out there as
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  well have proven, you know, over nine months or a year like, hey,
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  we're, we are real. We are here to stay and you can
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  rely on us and trust us. Well, this is what it comes down
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  to honestly is like Lady Luck favors those who take action.
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  Meaning if you're showing up and you're taking action and you're
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  plugging and plugging and plugging every day and you're,
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  and you're consistent and you work on it, then like eventually
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  one of those actions is just going to hit and it's just going
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  to work and it'll push you forward.
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  And the more actions that you take and the more consistent
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  that you are, the more of those you will hit.
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  And then you have motion, you have momentum.
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  And when you have motion, like you said, like hang around the
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  pigs, you get dirty. Like I've, I'm trying to flip
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  it. Like if you, if you hang around
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  water, you get wet, right? Like, so this is this is the
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  outcome of of your consistency and the consistency of the
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  community is showing up, doing the actions at volume
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  consistently. And then some people notice,
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  like that's how I noticed. And then I brought in my
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  community and I got them. And then, you know, maybe down
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  the line you have finally, I know your community wants it so
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  bad, but like finally a Murad, you know, plug because he's
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  probably paying attention to you, but he's just not saying it
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  because he doesn't want to give a, a false signal.
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  But when I talked to Murad, he told me he's like, I don't even,
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  I don't even consider a project until it's a year old.
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  Like that needs to be at least a year old.
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  I need that data. Yeah.
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  And if you're a year consistent and you're a year live daily and
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  you're a year of the community coming into these lives going
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  into post people posting like, Hey, I checked out UFD and
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  rating them and, and you know, some of your like corral sent me
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  a bunch of merch, you know, and stuff like this, like other
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  communities, they don't do that. And it's that type of activity
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  and action that's that snowballs over time that will get you just
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  those like one off moments. And those one off moments are
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  like 100 X moments and but you would never get them if you
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  didn't have the consistency, the volume, the actions cause again,
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  lady luck favors those take action.
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  So it's not being lucky. It's literally showing up.
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  And that's what like UFD shows up.
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  Like the community shows up and it's real and other communities
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  want that. But they don't have, they don't
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  have the the lore, they don't have the story.
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  They don't have the the face, the they don't have Ron.
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  The it's what you got here is something unique to the space.
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  So if you just continue and you continue taking action on a
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  daily basis, I don't know what it will be, what the next one
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  will be, but it might be Murad. It might be Coinbase, it might
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  be Binance. It like you don't know what it's
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  going to be, but something will happen because you will get
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  lucky. Because luck is not random, it's
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  it's based on action. You can't get lucky if you don't
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  take action. Yeah, man, you are.
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  You are spitting some wisdom there, Victoria.
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  Thank you. The other one I want to throw in
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  before I forget. If you hang out in a Barber
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  shop, you're eventually you're going to get a haircut.
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  That's funny. So what if you're the?
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  Barber, though, Who's going to cut your hair?
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  That's a good question. We'll, we'll, we'll figure that
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  out on the next live stream as you were talking, you know,
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  right, like you do create your own luck, right?
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  That comes from discipline by taking action.
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  There's a there's a concept or a theory out there called the
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  Lindy effect. You ever heard of the Lindy
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  effect, right? Like sounds.
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  Really familiar. It it, it basically said the law
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  of Lindy. I don't know it's I, I had to
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  Google it myself because one of our community members again
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  brought it up to me. But it basically states that for
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  a non perishable item or organization or anything that's
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  non perishable, that the longer it exists, the more likely it is
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  that it will continue to exist and to be successful.
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  That's right and. Yeah.
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  So I think that fits in with what you were with what you were
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  saying and and and by the way, I just want to make sure we do
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  have a Murad countdown ticker. We're at two months and 28 days
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  until he can consider us. So that's.
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  Awesome. That's really awesome.
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  I'm joking, I'm joking. But maybe, maybe we need to have
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  that right. You should have it then your
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  community should raid him. Yeah.
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  You had you. They they will.
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  And they do. They they do.
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  Did you have him on one of your streams?
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  OK, Yeah. Congratulations.
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  I've got a lot of respect for him and I tell this story
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  frequently, so I apologize to those that have already heard
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  it. But you know, when I created UFD
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  that I'd, I mean, I knew nothing about crypto.
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  I mean, I knew like the very like the typical boomer guy
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  who's been in the stock market for. 20 years only Imagine man
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  I. Knew nothing.
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  I knew nothing. And a guy named a guy named Drew
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  who's been been and continues to be one of my advisors sent me
• 20:46
  that Murad presentation that he gave.
• 20:50
  I think it was a token 2024 in Singapore.
• 20:53
  Yeah. And I was, I mean, I watched it
• 20:56
  for like 20 minutes in my life. My brain changed, my life
• 21:00
  changed. I realized that like, what was
• 21:04
  really going on. So I got a lot of respect from
• 21:07
  your ad and, and, and, you know, even I've got it, I could pull
• 21:11
  it up. So it's part of what I'm going
• 21:13
  to show here either in this live stream or the next one.
• 21:15
  But you put out this pyramid diagram the other day that shows
• 21:18
  like, you know, the top of the pyramid, the coins that have,
• 21:22
  you know, the certain characteristics are the ones
• 21:24
  that will survive. And yeah, he's just been a great
• 21:28
  off topic. Not off topic, but you mentioned
• 21:31
  something earlier. And I'm sure everybody watching
• 21:33
  knows this because I'm the the almost boomer crypto guy.
• 21:37
  But when they when they say a token is bundled, what does that
• 21:40
  mean? Like a group of friends
• 21:42
  basically got together and bought and bought up the supply.
• 21:45
  It's like, it's like sniping it like at the start of the coin.
• 21:50
  So let's say I launch a coin, no one knows what it is.
• 21:53
  It's just a random new pair that comes up and then the developer,
• 21:58
  like let's say I'm the developer, I go and I create 10
• 22:01
  wallets over here and I fund them from like a DEX or some
• 22:06
  source that's going to be hard to track.
• 22:07
  And then I buy like one wallet after another.
• 22:11
  So it's like I, I own a bunch of the supply, but it's not like
• 22:14
  grouped into one wallet. So when you go to top holders,
• 22:17
  it doesn't show just like one guy owns 50% of it.
• 22:19
  It's like all spread out between all these wallets.
• 22:22
  So that's, that's what bundling is.
• 22:24
  So when it goes up, you could a lot of software that lets you
• 22:27
  bundle. I don't really know much of
• 22:30
  them. Like I, I use axiom, but like I
• 22:33
  don't dev coins. So like this is stuff I know in
• 22:35
  theory, but if I ever had to do it in practice, I I don't really
• 22:39
  have the tools. I know there's like a ton of
• 22:41
  bots and different things, but I've been and I've been
• 22:45
  approached by these bots being like, Hey, will you promote
• 22:48
  this? And I'm always like, no, dude, I
• 22:49
  will not promote this at all. Like leave.
• 22:54
  But yeah, so that's basically that the idea of, of bundling is
• 22:59
  just owning a lot of supply in a hidden way.
• 23:03
  And like if you're doing that, like I, I see the, I see why it
• 23:08
  makes sense to do it to control the outcome later on so someone
• 23:14
  else doesn't bundle it and then wreck it.
• 23:17
  But at the same time, like there's obviously like a
• 23:21
  malicious undertone if you're bundling it because you can just
• 23:25
  you can rug pull the project later, right?
• 23:27
  Right, right. You could simultaneously sell
• 23:29
  from all those bundled wallets and.
• 23:32
  You're doing it through like like a bot or I think even
• 23:36
  Axiom, you could sell it all at once.
• 23:39
  Yeah, you just one candle, death candle, and it's done.
• 23:43
  Yeah, yeah. So, so I get approached with
• 23:47
  multiple times a day with all types of different offers of of
• 23:51
  I don't know, projects, you name it.
• 23:53
  Think I mean, I say no and I don't, I don't reply to some of
• 23:58
  them, but I have to say no to a lot of them.
• 24:01
  I have to like face that decision every day.
• 24:03
  Like good or bad, honest, dishonest.
• 24:06
  I'd imagine you with the influence you have are
• 24:10
  approached with just unbelievable amounts of quote UN
• 24:14
  quote opportunities where you have to make like an ethics
• 24:18
  decision about what am I interested in this?
• 24:21
  Would I move forward with it? Is that is that the case?
• 24:24
  Yeah, I have a manager who who deals with all my inbound.
• 24:27
  I probably get 5 to 10 emails and DMS every day.
• 24:30
  Wow, wow, yeah, it's, it's incredible.
• 24:34
  You know, IA couple weeks ago kind of dawned on me when I was
• 24:38
  thinking about the and I'm always thinking mostly about the
• 24:41
  meme coin sector. But it dawned on me that like
• 24:44
  there's certain companies and there's certain people in
• 24:48
  certain projects in the in the meme coin.
• 24:51
  I guess probably could say this about crypto in general, but I'm
• 24:54
  again focused on more on meme coins that are value adders that
• 24:58
  I think are creating value overall for crypto.
• 25:02
  And then there's the other portion of it that are
• 25:05
  extractors. And we, you know, we kind of
• 25:07
  touched on this earlier, but do you, I mean, you know, that's a
• 25:10
  real black and white and I guess there's a Gray area in the
• 25:12
  middle. But is, is that, is that, am I
• 25:15
  accurate when I'm thinking that? Yes, 100% yeah.
• 25:20
  That's that's the that's the hero and villain split we were
• 25:23
  talking about earlier. Yeah, yeah.
• 25:25
  Like the, there's people out there that are, that are trying
• 25:27
  to, you know, it gives like I think about like moon pay or
• 25:31
  even Ledger. Those are the two companies that
• 25:33
  support me and I feel good about them because like to me moon pay
• 25:35
  is kind of the, I call it lately I've been calling it the entry
• 25:39
  door into crypto, right? They've, they've got I think
• 25:41
  35,000,000 accounts now and like they allow people and that's how
• 25:45
  I got into crypto. That was.
• 25:46
  My very it's a super easy on ramp.
• 25:49
  Yeah, on ramp and and you know, ledgers doing security and then
• 25:54
  and I don't want to name any names publicly, but then I think
• 25:56
  of some other companies that I know of in crypto.
• 25:59
  I think, wow, those guys are really just trying to extract
• 26:02
  just to make money out of crypto, like not build crypto,
• 26:06
  but almost find a way that they can extract Fiat.
• 26:10
  Is that is that accurate even out of crypto?
• 26:13
  Most projects, most of what's going on in crypto is extraction
• 26:18
  100%. OK, OK, interesting.
• 26:21
  But here's the thing, it's like I feel like every business
• 26:25
  extracts. Yeah.
• 26:28
  Business is extraction. That's what it is.
• 26:30
  If I go and I sell you this water bottle, so I bought this
• 26:33
  water bottle on Amazon. This water bottle, I think it's
• 26:37
  $50. This water bottle like metal
• 26:40
  solid. I've had this thing for like
• 26:42
  three years, bro. Like you can see like there's
• 26:44
  damage done. I've dropped it.
• 26:45
  I don't know focus. Yeah, I can see it, Yeah.
• 26:50
  It's focusing on my face, so you see all the damage that has been
• 26:53
  done for me dropping it like this thing has been through a
• 26:56
  lot. Yeah, $50 water bottle.
• 26:59
  How much do you think the seller got it for?
• 27:03
  Yeah, 3020 or yeah. 10. Yeah, 10. 12 Do I have a problem
• 27:07
  with that? No, like they shipped it to my
• 27:09
  door. You made me you made me thirsty,
• 27:13
  so pardon me when I take a drink of water.
• 27:15
  Yeah, for good, man. Drink water dehydrated.
• 27:18
  But I mean like every business, like business is like you can
• 27:22
  label it extraction. I feel like extraction is a very
• 27:25
  malicious word, like profit is another word.
• 27:30
  I feel like that has like a softer landing.
• 27:33
  The people are profitable. I'm profitable.
• 27:36
  I'm not extracting because extraction is like, I feel like
• 27:40
  extraction is like, hey, look over here and then like good,
• 27:45
  good, good, you know, like Libra, like Libra was
• 27:47
  extraction. You know what I mean?
• 27:49
  Where profit is Ledger a good example, right?
• 27:55
  Like they sell their hardware wallet $300 or whatever cost
• 27:58
  them, I don't know, 40 bucks in China or something like that,
• 28:02
  right? Like, I don't know if they make
• 28:04
  in China, just an example, but that's business, that's profit.
• 28:09
  So yeah, I think there's like 3 tiers.
• 28:15
  I'm sorry, I apologize, but I, I think this relates to what
• 28:17
  you're saying. Like there's a difference when
• 28:20
  you make profit, but you're also adding value like your water
• 28:25
  bottle, right? Like they gave, they made
• 28:27
  profit. You're cool with that, right?
• 28:29
  But you've had this really cool water bottle that you've dropped
• 28:32
  and whatever and you probably have drank, you know, $10,000
• 28:36
  worth of the equivalent bottled water that you could have bought
• 28:38
  at the gas station. Probably they they gave, they
• 28:40
  gave you, yes, same here. I'm a big water drink. 2 Two of
• 28:44
  these a day. This is me too.
• 28:47
  High 5 Victoria. I'm a huge water drinker, man.
• 28:51
  I get it. It's good.
• 28:52
  It's so rare to meet, like, really serious water drinkers.
• 28:56
  Like, I'm such a water snob, dude.
• 28:58
  Yeah, I have a reverse osmosis with alkaline.
• 29:02
  Alkaline. What's it called?
• 29:04
  Like they're rocks and they. Right.
• 29:06
  Yeah, they re mineralize. Yeah, that's.
• 29:09
  Cool. Yeah, so I like top tier water
• 29:11
  all day. That's that's my vibe.
• 29:13
  That's it. Yeah, I'm a huge water drinker.
• 29:16
  But but it but it's OK to extract if you're giving value.
• 29:20
  And I like the example you gave the Libra token situation.
• 29:24
  I don't think that was just pure extraction, right?
• 29:27
  That was just pure manipulation, right, Right.
• 29:30
  Yeah, yeah. Like I do deals with projects
• 29:33
  that I research that I think are actually building something that
• 29:41
  and I share that stuff to my audience and it's a partner
• 29:44
  deal. They pay me in some way.
• 29:49
  So I guess like I'm making profit.
• 29:51
  I'm also giving value because here's The thing is like I got
• 29:55
  really tight on talking about any project for a really long
• 30:00
  time because I got like, I just, I just got so sick of all these
• 30:04
  rug pulls and I just was like, I'm not going to talk about
• 30:08
  projects because I don't trust anyone anymore And I'm not
• 30:11
  leading my community to get slaughtered.
• 30:14
  Like that's just not happening. And like, I've turned down
• 30:17
  millions of dollars in total, like millions of dollars like.
• 30:20
  I believe it. And, and, and it's because like
• 30:25
  I'm not wanting to ever be an extractor, but at the same time
• 30:31
  I'm doing deals where I make profit.
• 30:34
  And the way I see it at this point, it's like people stop
• 30:38
  paying attention to what I have to say when I don't show up with
• 30:41
  projects. They want me to show up with
• 30:44
  projects. You know what I mean?
• 30:46
  Yeah, yeah. There's like this kind of tie
• 30:48
  rope by. Yeah.
• 30:50
  You know, it's like, I can't just not talk about projects.
• 30:53
  People. Then people like, get upset at
• 30:56
  me. People message me and say, like
• 30:57
  Victoria, like we want projects, you know what I mean?
• 31:01
  And then on the other side, it's like, I got to be like very
• 31:04
  careful that when I do talk about a project, it's coming
• 31:07
  from a place where I'm like, I actually did my research and I
• 31:10
  have the best, my best intention and my best perspective that
• 31:14
  this is something worth their attention.
• 31:17
  Yeah, and that's like Grinny. It's tightrope, dude.
• 31:22
  And and is the is the litmus test, if that's the right word,
• 31:26
  would you put your own money in it?
• 31:28
  I mean, when I, when I, I don't, right.
• 31:31
  And that and see, for me, that was why.
• 31:34
  And I'm not trying to plug Moon Pay or Ledger, but that's why
• 31:37
  I'm happy to have Moon Pick. As, you know, like I before Moon
• 31:41
  Pay sponsored me, I used Moon Pay and I honestly had never
• 31:46
  heard of Moon Pay and maybe heard of them nine months ago,
• 31:49
  nine months and two days ago today, I had to call buddies of
• 31:52
  mine that are, you know, senior people at MasterCard here in
• 31:55
  Saint Louis. I'm like, if you heard it.
• 31:56
  And they're like, Oh yeah, they're legit, they're awesome,
• 31:58
  you know, whatever. But so, and then I had a
• 32:00
  transaction and it went great. So like, I feel good about Moon
• 32:03
  Pay. I feel good about Ledger when I
• 32:05
  did gold and silver, you know, I got I still make some gold and
• 32:09
  silver content here. You know, like there's a there's
• 32:12
  a company that sponsors my gold and silver first mint, right?
• 32:16
  It's a company that I do business with.
• 32:18
  It's a company that I buy. They they are they're a silver
• 32:21
  mint in Las. I'll give them a plug.
• 32:23
  They're a silver mint in Las Vegas, NV.
• 32:25
  They sell silver. They sell here stuff like this.
• 32:29
  Here's a 10 oz silver bar and this is about crypto, but I love
• 32:32
  silver. I've always called.
• 32:35
  What's that? Yeah, you.
• 32:35
  Want you want to see my silver? Yeah.
• 32:38
  I'll see your silver. I've already saw your water
• 32:40
  bottle. Don't worry, folks.
• 32:42
  I think crypto Victoria's going to come back Silver, the
• 32:48
  original cryptocurrency. He's he's he's out there.
• 32:53
  But what I was saying, I'll keep talking.
• 32:54
  Then we're going to let Victoria talk is like I will only do
• 32:58
  sponsorships with companies that either I do business with or
• 33:01
  that I'm personally invested in. All right, Ron, here he is.
• 33:05
  All right, UFD community. Here we go.
• 33:08
  In this box. Let's see what I got here, guys.
• 33:15
  All right, I have some one ouncers right here.
• 33:20
  Oh cool, you are. You're a stacker.
• 33:23
  I have Oh, here we go. This is the This is the meat
• 33:29
  right here. Is that 100 oz bar or a kilo?
• 33:32
  No, these are, I think they're 10 ounces. 10 oz bars. 10 oz
• 33:37
  here. I'll I have 8 of them right
• 33:39
  here. Oh beautiful are those?
• 33:46
  What are they? Sunshine met?
• 33:47
  What did they say on there? Sunshine minting, yeah.
• 33:50
  Yeah, sunshine met. Wow.
• 33:52
  Then I shouldn't be showing this on stream.
• 33:58
  Security risk, bro it's OK. I'm locked down and then I have
• 34:05
  these bad boys. I'm not going to say how many I
• 34:13
  have of these. Oh, cool.
• 34:17
  Yeah, the king, the king, the king of precious metals.
• 34:20
  Yeah, there. You go.
• 34:22
  Yeah. That's A1 Ouncer.
• 34:25
  Yeah, very nice. Got a few, I'm not going to say
• 34:28
  how many out of those, but. You know, in in this in and you
• 34:31
  and I are talking about crypto, but I think there's a big
• 34:35
  misconception, especially on the goal in the gold and silver
• 34:38
  world that that there's this big divide between precious metals
• 34:43
  and crypto. And I will tell you my belief,
• 34:46
  and I know this to be true. And I think I've seen some of
• 34:49
  the smartest minds in the gold and silver sector also initially
• 34:53
  at least be get involved with Bitcoin and crypto.
• 34:57
  But the reasons why people buy precious metals and the reasons
• 35:00
  why people at the at the core like crypto are essentially the
• 35:05
  same. I don't know how you feel about
• 35:07
  that, but decentralization, democratization, I think that
• 35:12
  that that silver precious metal investors and crypto investors
• 35:16
  are way more similar than they are different.
• 35:18
  And I know there's like the Peter shifts of the world and
• 35:21
  some other people that are very vocal, but but there's a big
• 35:25
  synergy, I think between the communities.
• 35:28
  So yeah, I agree. Because it's anti Fiat.
• 35:32
  Right. Yeah, right.
• 35:33
  Well, there you go. Yeah.
• 35:34
  Because Fiat's like the worst investment that you could hold
• 35:39
  is like something that you literally like, know is going to
• 35:42
  go down in value. So how do you, Yeah, like
• 35:47
  literally if you want to be, if you want to be wealthy, just bet
• 35:49
  against the dollar. Like there's no, that's the,
• 35:52
  that's there's no gambling involved.
• 35:54
  If you just bet against the dollar constantly.
• 35:57
  How do you do that? Cash flowing or just assets,
• 36:01
  appreciating assets, real estate, which I have a few
• 36:06
  properties, gold, silver because I mean gold's gripping right
• 36:11
  now. Gold hold its value for
• 36:13
  thousands of years that you can buy for the same price as you
• 36:18
  could buy the finest robe, sandals, crown, some sort of
• 36:26
  jewelry piece in ancient Rome. You can buy a suit shoes belt
• 36:31
  from Armani today. Exact same for one ounce of
• 36:34
  gold, right? Right.
• 36:36
  And then Bitcoin, which is new, it's unproven, but it's
• 36:42
  completely demolished the dollar in performance like insane,
• 36:46
  insane returns. And then with Bitcoin, it's just
• 36:49
  literally like the, the, you know, if, if you stay next to
• 36:54
  water, you're going to get wet type of situation.
• 36:57
  Ethereum, Solana, UFDSPX, like all these, they just are.
• 37:02
  They're around the water, which is Bitcoin.
• 37:04
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, it's I, I, you know, I
• 37:09
  think you summed it up very simply, right.
• 37:12
  It's, it's anti Fiat investment. And we got to, I mean, under the
• 37:16
  best, I always say under the best of circumstances.
• 37:19
  And you know, I've studied the Fed and the, and the Fiat
• 37:23
  systems under the best of circumstances, right, the Fed is
• 37:27
  shooting to basically steal 2% of your money per year by and
• 37:31
  with inflation, it's been much higher as of late.
• 37:34
  And when you look at where we are now compared to 50 years
• 37:38
  ago, if you look at the last 50 years, like, you know, the
• 37:41
  dollars lost 99% of its value against gold, for instance,
• 37:45
  everybody knows, you know, 50 years ago the dollar was
• 37:49
  multiple times more powerful than it is today.
• 37:52
  But if you look at the next 50 years, based on where we are now
• 37:55
  with the national debt, the way the world has changed, right?
• 37:59
  50 years ago, we were the, we were the really the ruler of the
• 38:03
  world, China, India, even Russia, you know, weren't nearly
• 38:08
  as powerful as they are now. So when we look out of the next
• 38:10
  50 years, like I love my country and I hate that we're in the
• 38:14
  situation, but it doesn't look real optimistic for the dollar.
• 38:17
  When you think the last 50 years were bad, I can't even when you
• 38:20
  think about the next 50 years, I don't know if you have any
• 38:23
  thought on that, but it's pretty scary.
• 38:25
  And I think that's why smart guys like you are saying, hey, I
• 38:29
  own crypto, I own gold, silver, I own some real estate, that
• 38:32
  type of thing. Yeah.
• 38:34
  So the reality is that they want to remove the middle class like
• 38:39
  they they don't want the middle class to exist.
• 38:41
  And that's because the middle class is a threat to whatever
• 38:46
  elite powers are, you know, at work here that kind of call the
• 38:50
  shots, manipulate the media form the Fed, manipulate the dollar,
• 38:56
  all that stuff. So by by removing the middle
• 38:59
  class, they eliminate their biggest threat, which is like an
• 39:02
  army of people who can hold their own ground, maybe not on
• 39:06
  their own be super powerful, but like on on on their own.
• 39:09
  They can hold their own ground because people in poverty, they
• 39:12
  need, they rely on the government.
• 39:14
  People in poverty rely on the government.
• 39:16
  They they want handouts, they want stimulus, they want
• 39:20
  welfare, government checks. They wait for that.
• 39:22
  And when they don't get it, they they starve.
• 39:24
  So they're compliant. People that are in poverty are
• 39:26
  compliant. So they want two classes.
• 39:28
  They want them and then they want everyone else basically
• 39:32
  surrendering to them. So how do they do that?
• 39:35
  Well, First off, taxes. Taxes are just a direct tax.
• 39:39
  Secondly, inflation. Inflation is a backdoor tax,
• 39:42
  like you said. But but the big, the big punch
• 39:46
  in the gut is like inflation's going crazy where wages are
• 39:48
  stagnant. So if you work a job, job, well,
• 39:52
  like how are you supposed to keep up?
• 39:54
  This is why the cost of living is out of control because wages
• 40:00
  can't keep up. It's the wages.
• 40:02
  That are the problem. Like how much has minimum wage
• 40:04
  increased since 2020? Maybe a couple dollars.
• 40:09
  I don't really keep track of it. Maybe a couple dollars, but like
• 40:11
  how much has inflation increased since 2020?
• 40:15
  Like almost double, almost double.
• 40:18
  It's madness. So This is why people are like,
• 40:21
  I can't keep up with paying groceries, like people working
• 40:24
  full time jobs, living in their cars, like because they're
• 40:28
  because they want you to be a slave.
• 40:30
  They want you to be a wage slave because then you're compliant
• 40:33
  and then they can do whatever they want.
• 40:34
  And then the next time another pandemic comes around, another
• 40:39
  cyber attack comes around, some crisis comes around, you're
• 40:43
  compliant, you listen, you fall in line.
• 40:45
  And then they can get to work on the back end on doing all the
• 40:48
  things that they need to do in order to put the pillars in
• 40:51
  place to further control you. And call me crazy, but that's
• 40:57
  the world. I don't call you crazy and I and
• 41:00
  I like to point out that like even the educational system in
• 41:05
  this country doesn't teach the educational system is doesn't
• 41:08
  teach anything about money at all right.
• 41:11
  Any any they'll teach you about algebra, geometry and you know
• 41:15
  all the but nothing about about money or how to accumulate
• 41:19
  wealth and what it actually does teach.
• 41:21
  OK, which I am dead to look I neither I nor I think I can say
• 41:26
  this for you are financial advisors.
• 41:28
  We're not giving financial, but I do have a degree in
• 41:31
  accounting. I did work for a BIG4.
• 41:33
  I understand how money works and what they teach people is to get
• 41:38
  in debt and, and, and that goes right into what you said, right?
• 41:41
  They teach get into student loan debt, get into, you know, all
• 41:45
  forms of debt is, is what we're basically taught the message
• 41:49
  that we get, get into car debt, get into all this debt.
• 41:51
  And, and I think what it creates is a, and you use the word like
• 41:56
  slavery. I think you use that word to me,
• 41:58
  it's debt slavery where people basically spend their whole life
• 42:02
  with a credit card balance and student loan balance and all
• 42:05
  this stuff and and they never get to it.
• 42:07
  I mean, look, I think that you've been very successful in
• 42:11
  in and I don't have any debt. I've been against debt.
• 42:14
  I hate debt. That's the advice that I would
• 42:16
  give people. Do your best to get out of debt
• 42:19
  1st and then build, build, build, build, build.
• 42:23
  Because once you're out of debt, you're kind of you're no longer,
• 42:26
  you know, fighting gravity every day.
• 42:29
  You're not going to work to pay interest on on for for somebody
• 42:33
  else. And so on that note, I want to
• 42:35
  ask you two things, but does crypto, I'll ask you this first.
• 42:38
  Do you think crypto and it's original, the original ethos of
• 42:42
  crypto, does crypto give people a an opportunity to in some ways
• 42:48
  step outside that system? If that does that make sense
• 42:51
  What I'm asking, does crypto offer that?
• 42:54
  I mean on individual level or on a macro level.
• 43:01
  More on an on an individual level, like can somebody, you
• 43:05
  know, like gold and silver give people the chance to kind of
• 43:08
  remove themselves in the in the gold and silver community that
• 43:11
  will use the same be your own central bank, right?
• 43:14
  Like hold your own silver like you had or your own gold like
• 43:18
  you can you can be your own central bank.
• 43:20
  Does does does crypto give that opportunity?
• 43:24
  I'm. Just curious.
• 43:25
  I mean, we'll, we'll wait and see.
• 43:27
  I guess like you can say we we can speculate, yeah.
• 43:33
  And if we look at the historic return of it, it has, but I
• 43:36
  mean, like to say Satoshi Nakamoto comes out and it's
• 43:40
  Putin and then it goes to 0. Like we don't know what can
• 43:43
  happen next. So I would love for it to be
• 43:48
  that. I mean, really the, the design
• 43:51
  of Bitcoin though, is designed to be anti central bank because
• 43:56
  anti central bank like all dollars are actually debt.
• 43:59
  So it's designed to be the reverse.
• 44:03
  But when you start speculating, it's like speculation is
• 44:06
  dangerous. So but you have to, I mean, you
• 44:10
  have to take risks, you have to speculate, you have, you have to
• 44:13
  stack in different piles. And that's kind of what I talked
• 44:18
  about before where it's like I have three properties.
• 44:21
  I have physical metals, I have crypto, I have cash, I have
• 44:27
  GICSI have ETFs like stack assets in every direction.
• 44:35
  But the number one thing like, and we haven't touched on this,
• 44:38
  but the number one thing that everyone should be focusing on
• 44:43
  is their income. Everyone should be focusing on
• 44:47
  their income. Income is the food.
• 44:51
  You're like, there's this common saying in business like your
• 44:55
  business is a beast, your business is a monster and it
• 44:58
  eats money. And I learned that the hard way.
• 45:03
  Like I talked about this on my stream yesterday.
• 45:05
  I haven't really talked about this too much before, but I had
• 45:09
  a digital marketing agency, started it in 2018 and built
• 45:15
  pretty quickly. I mean slow, but quickly.
• 45:17
  By 2020 we had, you know, 20 local clients doing social media
• 45:22
  for them, ads for them and stuff like that.
• 45:24
  Then COVID came and it just all my clients shut their doors and
• 45:30
  I like pretty much lost my business overnight.
• 45:32
  So that that year, that year or two years there was like really
• 45:36
  tough for me and I, I racked up a bunch of business credit card
• 45:42
  debt basically because I had to float my business and it was, it
• 45:48
  was so hard to get out of it. Like we're like, it wasn't even
• 45:52
  like that. It wasn't even a small amount.
• 45:54
  It was like it fluctuated between like 20 and 50K, you
• 45:58
  know, and like I would have good months and I would just throw
• 46:01
  like all my money at it and it just like it was just this.
• 46:04
  It was just like. A more.
• 46:05
  Like it just ate. I just wanted more, you know
• 46:08
  what I mean? And it wasn't until like the
• 46:11
  start of 2025 when I finally like got out of that.
• 46:14
  And then I still got really aggressive.
• 46:17
  And it's just been like, like really aggressively stacking,
• 46:21
  building wealth at this point. And it's like so far away from
• 46:25
  that situation now. Thank, thank the Lord, but but
• 46:31
  the biggest driver of all of that was income.
• 46:35
  And this is what I mean when it's like the wages are not
• 46:39
  keeping up with inflation. The wages will not keep up with
• 46:43
  debt interest. Your wages alone if you work a
• 46:46
  job are not enough. You need cash flowing assets.
• 46:51
  You need multiple streams of money coming in like I couldn't
• 46:56
  count on one hand how many streams of money I have coming
• 46:59
  in now, probably not on two hands, you know, and that's how
• 47:04
  you have to think about it. Like if you have a job, that's
• 47:07
  fine, but like start a YouTube channel start like yield farming
• 47:12
  crypto or or staking your crypto start like do you need to figure
• 47:15
  out other ways? Because if you just rely on the
• 47:17
  one thing and then you get canned like you're screwed and
• 47:20
  your income is everything. It's you're literally, you can't
• 47:22
  feed the beast and you and everyone is a business too,
• 47:25
  right? Like I'm a business, you're a
• 47:27
  business. Oh yeah, watching the business
• 47:30
  in themselves. Like that's how you have to
• 47:32
  think about yourself. So like you, like you need to
• 47:35
  feed the beast, bro. And if you don't have income
• 47:37
  that can support it, you're, you're cooked.
• 47:39
  So that's the number one thing, man.
• 47:42
  You, you are I I, I agree with you 150% and I haven't said it
• 47:46
  for a long time, but every single person and we've got 600
• 47:50
  people with us right now live every single one of the 600 and
• 47:54
  four 606 whatever people out there, you are a business.
• 47:59
  What Victoria just said is absolutely true.
• 48:02
  Trust me, I'm an accountant. I work for a BIG4 accounting
• 48:05
  firm. One, that's one thing I can tell
• 48:07
  you for sure, and I'm not bragging, but every single
• 48:10
  person, whether you're a whether you're a musician or you're, or
• 48:14
  you're working on the assembly line at Ford Motor Company,
• 48:18
  you've got, you've got money coming in and you have money
• 48:21
  going out. You are the exact same thing on
• 48:23
  an individual level as a business.
• 48:25
  And what Dick said is true, right?
• 48:27
  I mean, if you spend more every month and you bring in, you are
• 48:31
  going to go into debt and then that debt will accrue interest
• 48:34
  and you will dig yourself into a hole that eventually you'll be
• 48:38
  like our government is in the United States, you won't be able
• 48:41
  to get out of. So, yeah, you've got to, you
• 48:45
  know, that income coming in until you, you know,
• 48:48
  hypothetically, and that doesn't happen for most people, but it
• 48:51
  does for some, Get to a point where you've generated so much
• 48:54
  income and made, you know, spent so much less than you bring in
• 48:58
  that you've got such a bundle of investments that are making
• 49:01
  money that you don't, you know, that is your income at that
• 49:04
  point. But Victoria, that's great
• 49:06
  advice that you just gave. And man, I hadn't thought about
• 49:09
  that and said it myself for probably a year and a but we are
• 49:13
  all businesses, every single person, even my, you know, a 14
• 49:17
  year old kid is a, is a business and you know, they're spending
• 49:21
  and you know, eventually they'll get to a point where they'll,
• 49:23
  they'll need to be making more than they spend.
• 49:25
  So thank. You for bringing that up and,
• 49:27
  and it, it, it, it's just, I had some that I want to drop there,
• 49:33
  but I lost it. But 100% you're, you're a
• 49:37
  business and your income is, is #1 and I mean, dude, you're not
• 49:44
  bragging either by saying you worked at a BIG4.
• 49:46
  Like that's just extreme. Well, that's just, that's just,
• 49:49
  that's respect. So.
• 49:50
  Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, you know, I I got, I
• 49:54
  have a little job that I've had for years at night.
• 49:56
  It's where I can walk to it. It's the best.
• 49:58
  I have the best job in the world.
• 49:59
  I love it. It's not really full time.
• 50:02
  It's a place. It's a little, it's a little
• 50:04
  music school, OK. And I just kind of hang out
• 50:07
  there. So I get to know all these
• 50:08
  musicians and a lot of them they're they're teachers, but
• 50:12
  they're basically running their own little businesses.
• 50:14
  They teach cello lessons. They do gigs on the weekend.
• 50:19
  I always say to them, I'm like you, you realize you're running
• 50:22
  a business, OK, Like, like, like I don't need to understand music
• 50:29
  and I'm not I'm not a musician. I think it's great.
• 50:31
  I love the people all that like I don't have to understand music
• 50:34
  though, to function, but they do need to understand money.
• 50:38
  And sometimes I see some of the decisions they make and I'm
• 50:41
  like, man, you guys, you know, that doesn't make sense for you
• 50:44
  to do that to drive, you know, 100 miles to go do a lesson that
• 50:49
  you're only going to make $40 off of.
• 50:51
  So anyway, aside, right? I mean, but they but maybe they
• 50:54
  do it because they they love it. And, you know, there's a whole
• 50:56
  argument you made, but now you're right.
• 50:58
  And but I think what it comes down to.
• 51:00
  And do you have 10 more minutes for me?
• 51:02
  Victoria, can you hang up? You know, what it comes down to
• 51:05
  is freedom, OK. And I think that if, if, if, if
• 51:09
  a person digs themselves into too big of a hole of debt, they
• 51:13
  never have that freedom. Like, I work that little job
• 51:16
  because I want to and because I really love it, OK.
• 51:18
  And I do what I do here in my basement and do what I do with
• 51:22
  UFD because I love it, right? I have that freedom.
• 51:26
  I'm not like, because I, I don't have any debt.
• 51:29
  And I think that's what it comes down to.
• 51:31
  Like if if people really want to be free, then it's not like you
• 51:36
  need a certain amount of money, but you need certain
• 51:38
  circumstances in place, if that makes sense.
• 51:44
  I think so. Debt, consumer debt, consumer
• 51:48
  debt, consumer debt is awful. You can use debt to make money.
• 51:54
  Like my properties are mortgaged, right?
• 51:57
  So I have tenants and I'm positive cash flow or I, I think
• 52:02
  I am, I'm, I'm around that point, but it's like I'm holding
• 52:05
  these forever. So eventually I'm going to be
• 52:07
  Max positive cash flow where I'll leverage them and keep
• 52:11
  building out. But you can use debt if you know
• 52:15
  what you're doing, but it's definitely a, a dangerous game
• 52:18
  if you don't know what you're doing.
• 52:20
  I just wanted to add that note, but one thing too, talking about
• 52:23
  investments, talking about you're a business and, and being
• 52:28
  in a place where you're not making enough money, some people
• 52:32
  will be like, OK, Ron Victoria, what do I invest in to make me
• 52:38
  money, to make me more money right now because I'm not making
• 52:42
  enough money. And the number one thing you can
• 52:46
  be investing in right now is your skills is, is your high
• 52:49
  income skills sales marketing content like product
• 52:58
  development, software development, AI, like learn
• 53:01
  these things. The Internet is the new
• 53:04
  marketplace. Like I've made millions of
• 53:07
  dollars on the Internet. Like not in real life.
• 53:11
  You know what I mean? Because I have these skills,
• 53:14
  sales, marketing, content, AI, right?
• 53:18
  Like you need to invest and like you can literally buy a course
• 53:22
  on udemy.com. udemy.com you for 10 bucks, literally $10 that
• 53:29
  could make you 100 grand. You can go and watch YouTube
• 53:33
  videos, make a ton of money for free, bro, for free.
• 53:37
  All you got to do is invest the time.
• 53:41
  Like you either invest money or you invest time.
• 53:43
  Rich people invest money so they don't have to invest time.
• 53:47
  Broke people you got to invest your time so you don't have to
• 53:49
  invest your money. Get your skills up bro, get your
• 53:52
  experience. It's so hard for me to keep my
• 53:54
  mouth shut, but you're, I agree with you 100%, Dick.
• 53:58
  Hey you, you hit the nail on the head.
• 54:01
  You know, when I would turn 52 years old, I was sitting on my
• 54:04
  couch and I was like, I want to do something with my life.
• 54:07
  You know, like I was going to either right off into the sunset
• 54:11
  or I want to do something. What you just said is absolutely
• 54:14
  true and I can vouch for it. I am living proof.
• 54:17
  I committed when I was 52 years old to start focusing on my
• 54:22
  YouTube channel. Make one piece of content today
• 54:25
  and to learn one thing a day and you don't even need to spend 10
• 54:29
  bucks. I almost interrupted.
• 54:30
  You said you're wrong, Victoria jokingly because there is there
• 54:34
  are more there, there is there. There is a world of free
• 54:38
  education, like you said, if you're willing to invest your
• 54:41
  time. And that's what I did for one
• 54:43
  year. I made one piece of content and
• 54:45
  I made myself find something right.
• 54:47
  I think like Alex Hormozi or Gary Firechuk or any slew of
• 54:52
  like all these videos that are out there about how to start a
• 54:55
  YouTube channel and how to make better videos and how to get
• 54:58
  better audio. And I mean, it's all there and
• 55:01
  it's all really for free essentially.
• 55:04
  But it takes, it takes, like you said, time and a commitment and
• 55:09
  it takes knowing that it's not always going to be fun, right?
• 55:12
  It takes hard work and, and it kind of leads me into my next.
• 55:16
  This is a great conversation because that was one of the key
• 55:19
  things I wanted to ask you. Like you've been very
• 55:21
  successful. You've got you've achieved, I
• 55:23
  think, and I think maybe I have to a certain degree of freedom.
• 55:27
  But what got you there? Are there any big lessons that
• 55:30
  you that you learned or any as you look back over the last,
• 55:33
  let's say five years and you've grown this business to where it
• 55:37
  is today? Are there any things that stand
• 55:38
  out for you? And if I'm if, if, if the viewer
• 55:41
  out there now, almost 700 of them are like what you know,
• 55:44
  what's the best advice that Victoria could give is anything
• 55:47
  that comes to mind in that. Regard.
• 55:49
  Yeah, yeah, like #1 any troubles, any hardships, you got
• 55:56
  to give that to God. Number one, That's like #1 bro.
• 56:00
  And you can't live with that. Like you're not strong enough,
• 56:05
  you're not smart enough. You can't navigate it by
• 56:07
  yourself. You got to give that to God
• 56:09
  First off. Then you got to decide what you
• 56:12
  want. Like, what's the one thing at
• 56:15
  the Top North Star that you want?
• 56:19
  For me, I've been telling myself for over a decade I'm going to
• 56:22
  be a billionaire, probably in my 50s, my 60s.
• 56:27
  But I will and. Can I, can I ask you one quick
• 56:30
  question and then I promise I'll shut up?
• 56:32
  Everybody's getting mad at me for interrupting you, but are
• 56:35
  you still going to drink out of that same black water bottle
• 56:38
  when you're a billionaire? Probably buy a new one there's
• 56:42
  honestly I probably need a new one right now but a bacteria
• 56:45
  build up most likely at this point so I should probably take
• 56:50
  some money and invest in a new water bottle but.
• 56:54
  I'll buy you one when you get to a billion.
• 56:56
  I won't say anything. I'm sorry, I interrupted.
• 56:58
  You do that. Bro, I'm getting, I'm getting
• 57:00
  eggs thrown at me from our audience here.
• 57:02
  I apologize. Go ahead.
• 57:05
  So #2 man, like I said, you need a North Star that like on your
• 57:12
  deathbed, if you hit it, you're going to be like, that's the
• 57:15
  thing that I wanted to hit when I when I was going to die.
• 57:18
  So I did it and I'm happy. Like I can die now.
• 57:20
  I'm peaceful, I'm good, right? For me, I want to live a life.
• 57:25
  I want to experience a lifestyle where money doesn't exist to me.
• 57:30
  Like they call it financial freedom.
• 57:33
  I think past like $100 million, you like, money isn't, isn't a
• 57:37
  thing. Like it's just like, yeah, I can
• 57:38
  buy anything I want. I can vouch for that.
• 57:42
  It happened for me somewhere around 78,000,000 Victoria.
• 57:49
  You're you're close enough you'll know when.
• 57:51
  You get there. Thanks for the insight.
• 57:55
  I'm joking, everybody, Please. Yeah.
• 57:59
  So yeah, that, that that's the second thing is like you need to
• 58:02
  know what what you're chasing and you got to like be patient
• 58:07
  and understand it's not just going to happen in a year or ten
• 58:09
  years even. Like it might be 20-30 years,
• 58:12
  but you got to keep working towards it.
• 58:14
  And then you got to understand then like, what are like the
• 58:17
  five steps in front of you, what's like a 10X from your
• 58:23
  current level? And then like make the 10X from
• 58:25
  your current level a goal and then go after that goal.
• 58:28
  And then once you get there, what's the 10X from that level?
• 58:30
  And go after that goal. So you have to like, like, First
• 58:34
  off #1 remove the stress from you.
• 58:37
  Put all, put the whole journey on to God and he'll take care of
• 58:40
  it #2 set your goal as high as you can possibly imagine.
• 58:46
  Literally just aim at the highest possible thing that your
• 58:49
  brain can think of that you actually want.
• 58:52
  Not you want because someone else said you wanted it, but
• 58:54
  like that you actually want. And then #3 break it down into
• 58:59
  reasonable 5 steps ahead. 10X of more from where you're at, 10X
• 59:03
  from where you're at, 10X from where you're at.
• 59:04
  And then when you hit that, move the goal posts.
• 59:07
  People say moving the goal posts is bad.
• 59:08
  No bro, you got to move the goal posts.
• 59:10
  That's how you get to the the thing.
• 59:12
  Of course you have to move the goal posts.
• 59:14
  If you're just going to sit at this goal, then like nice, you
• 59:16
  plateaued. You're never going to hit your,
• 59:18
  your N, your North Star, your big, your big thing and, and all
• 59:22
  of the details, all of the gaps, all of the what you learn this,
• 59:27
  this and that, it'll all just come together.
• 59:31
  It'll all just come together. You'll know you need to learn
• 59:33
  this in order to do that. You'll know you'll meet the
• 59:36
  right person to do this. Like that's part of where God
• 59:40
  comes into it. He's just going to introduce you
• 59:41
  to people. He's going to make it happen.
• 59:43
  And that's basically from my perspective how you do anything.
• 59:49
  Yeah. Well, and, and I and I can vouch
• 59:51
  for what you said, like on a spiritual level, I'm a very
• 59:55
  analytical person. I always have been, right.
• 59:57
  And, but, but there's that idea of paralysis by analysis.
• 1:00:02
  Like my natural instinct is to want to figure out each little
• 1:00:05
  step that's going to happen over the next two or three years.
• 1:00:08
  And what you said is absolutely true.
• 1:00:10
  You just got to start doing it right.
• 1:00:12
  You got to have that goal of where you want to be and then
• 1:00:16
  just take the actions and God, the universe.
• 1:00:19
  However, whatever way people want to look at it, provides the
• 1:00:23
  answer step by step. And it's never what you think
• 1:00:25
  it's going to be. A lot of times it's even better,
• 1:00:28
  right? It's even, it's even, it's even
• 1:00:30
  better. It works out.
• 1:00:31
  I want to share this because this is in my daily.
• 1:00:34
  I keep notes, I'll read it but I've just proof that I have
• 1:00:38
  this. Maybe everybody wants to
• 1:00:39
  screenshot it but I'll read what it says cuz it it relates to
• 1:00:42
  what you said. It says set big goals because
• 1:00:46
  99% of people set very mediocre goals.
• 1:00:50
  So the competition to reach those media mediocre goals is
• 1:00:55
  more intense. This is one of the paradoxes of
• 1:00:58
  life. It's actually sometimes easier
• 1:01:01
  to get to the big goals. Like everybody just has these
• 1:01:04
  little short goals, but there's very so there's a lot of
• 1:01:06
  competition, whereas the big goals, not many people shoot for
• 1:01:11
  being as successful as you've been at this point or maybe you
• 1:01:14
  know where where you're going to be going.
• 1:01:18
  So people think, oh, that's impossible to get there.
• 1:01:20
  But in some ways, you know, we can be like, I love this saying
• 1:01:25
  that you can basically tie up an elephant with a piece of yarn,
• 1:01:29
  right? Like we, we don't realize how
• 1:01:31
  powerful we are. We're like an elephant that's
• 1:01:34
  tethered with a piece of string or a piece of yarn. 100% yeah
• 1:01:40
  you need to. You need to aim for the what do
• 1:01:45
  they say? Aim for the moon and or aim for
• 1:01:48
  the stars and you'll reach the moon.
• 1:01:49
  You get the moon, baby. Yep, Yep, Yep.
• 1:01:53
  Victoria, thank you. I want to show for everybody out
• 1:01:56
  there who's joining us. If you want more crypto
• 1:01:59
  Victoria, which I know you do. I want to go out real quickly
• 1:02:02
  here, Victoria, and show your YouTube and Twitter profile.
• 1:02:06
  OK, This is Victoria's. Is that called Twitter profile?
• 1:02:10
  Is that correct, Victoria? I never know what to call
• 1:02:11
  account X account. This is crypto Victoria's X
• 1:02:14
  account. Go follow him.
• 1:02:17
  He puts out great content on X and, of course, let's pull up
• 1:02:22
  this make sure I got it. They should be seeing right now
• 1:02:24
  your YouTube channel, Crypto Victoria.
• 1:02:27
  Just go on to YouTube and search for crypto Vic 91,092 thousand
• 1:02:32
  subscribers. Man, that is awesome Victoria.
• 1:02:35
  You know, I guess I'll I guess I can't keep my mouth shut, so
• 1:02:39
  I'll hold on here. I'll say this as you were
• 1:02:42
  talking as well, in this like modern era that we're living in
• 1:02:47
  where I think it's really a gift, right?
• 1:02:48
  Like that, that like, I can sit in my basement, you can sit in
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  your studio, we can talk to the world.
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  Like 30 years ago, this technology did not exist.
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  If you told me this when I was 25 years old, I would have
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  thought you were crazy, right? Like, you know, I've got 6 light
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  bulbs in a $25 webcam and we can talk to the world and we can
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  provide value. You know, when you talked about
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  that earlier, like that's value. I think that the 700 people who
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  are with us right now are here because you provided some value.
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  The 91,000 subscribers you have on YouTube and all your other
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  social channels that have 250, three, 100 million views, you
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  got that only because you provided value to people and
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  like what a gift that is that we can do that.
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  And, and I think that if, if, and I know this about you and
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  correct me if I'm wrong, but and, and it's worked for me.
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  It's like if I, if I focus on giving to people out there, and
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  that means the 710 people who are joining us right now, giving
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  what I can, giving value, giving secrets, right?
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  Like I think sometimes people, they go, that's my secret.
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  I can't that that like it so comes back to you and and like
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  the success is just even that much more enjoyable. 100% man
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  giving is a crucial part of being successful.
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  It's been one of my honestly like one of the one of the
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  craziest things that I've seen pay off immensely is giving
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  value, helping people directly, giving money to people who need
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  it, even just like buying a grocery card.
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  Dude try this. This is like the best thing
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  ever. Go to a grocery store, load up
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  $200 on a grocery card, and then once you buy it just literally
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  give it to the cashier. Just watch the reaction bro.
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  I'm gonna follow you to the grocery store next time, Dick.
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  Yeah, you're mine. Hey, hey, wait up.
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  Hey. Nick, how you doing?
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  Long time no. See you getting ready to check
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  out? I'll be right behind you.
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  Yeah. No, it's all that.
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  It's all joking aside, that's awesome.
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  That is, yeah. Honestly, bro, you, you gotta
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  try. It's it's the best.
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  Like they're they just they like I've had them cry.
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  It's just, it's so funny, man. I love it.
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  Yeah, yeah, there's nothing. There's nothing more.
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  And I learned that early in my YouTube journey, right?
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  I mean, I had some, I was really learning a lot and excited me
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  like, and that's the other thing, like, hey guys, guess
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  what? Learning new things, if it's
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  something that you're interested in and it's a goal like like for
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  me it was, I wanted to build a successful YouTube channel.
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  It was fun, man. It was great.
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  Like learning these like, oh, I had no idea that for 15 bucks I
• 1:05:35
  could buy a microphone and my audio would sound 100% better.
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  And I remember the first day I used it, I'm like, this is cool.
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  You know, this is fun. And you know, maybe one day I'll
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  get rid of my 6 light bulbs. But there, I mean, it's, it's a
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  lot of fun. But the giving away.
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  And then like the other people that were also on that journey,
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  after I was there for a year or two years that would contact me
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  and we're starting channels and I'd be like, it was so much fun
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  for me to give to them. What maybe even in honestly, ten
• 1:06:07
  years ago, I thought, those are my secrets.
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  I don't want to give that away. Just give it away and and then
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  see how it just like comes back. I mean, it's, it really is true.
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  It's crazy, but it's, you know, it feels good and it feels good.
• 1:06:20
  Don't you want to like, don't you want to remember this stuff
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  too? Because like, yeah, it's your
• 1:06:24
  secrets now, but in like 2 years you're just going to forget it
• 1:06:27
  all at least like put it down. And then like, like there's some
• 1:06:31
  things in my older videos where I watch my older videos and I'm
• 1:06:33
  like, I completely forgot all this stuff.
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  Like I did not remember this stuff.
• 1:06:38
  Like how did I even, where did I even get like, where did I even
• 1:06:41
  come up with this? What?
• 1:06:42
  Like, you know what I mean? It's so funny looking back
• 1:06:45
  sometimes and you're like, damn, that's smart, bro.
• 1:06:48
  Like who is this guy? Oh yeah, it's me.
• 1:06:50
  Literally I I don't. Remember, I know you know what
• 1:06:52
  that's a great point. I know exactly what you're
• 1:06:54
  saying and you know anyone who comes into the basement, it
• 1:06:58
  looks like a disaster behind me, but you should see in front of
• 1:07:01
  me. There are literally probably 50
• 1:07:04
  notes that I have to myself, right?
• 1:07:07
  Like things to do and make sure you smile, right?
• 1:07:09
  That's important smile. And I mean, just stuff like
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  that, that, that you forget right?
• 1:07:15
  And then And but by giving away and by teaching people, it helps
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  me remember and, you know, comes back.
• 1:07:21
  All right, Victoria, thanks, buddy.
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  I can't wait to have you back on or meet to get the chat.
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  You, you, you are, you are awesome.
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  There's a reason why you're so successful.
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  And on behalf of the whole Internet community, the 750
• 1:07:35
  people who are joining us right now, you've given us some great
• 1:07:39
  value. So thanks man.
• 1:07:41
  Hey, man, I know I, I appreciate it, Ron, thank you so much.
• 1:07:44
  One last, one last note really quick.
• 1:07:46
  Oh yeah. I saw her Mosey tweet yesterday
• 1:07:49
  and he said, he said one day the sun is going to expand and
• 1:07:54
  absorb the earth and it'll destroy all of your
• 1:07:57
  accomplishments and everyone and everything that's ever happened.
• 1:08:00
  But you're afraid to post content because your friends are
• 1:08:03
  going to make fun of you. That was one of the.
• 1:08:07
  That was one of the the if if you, if you look back at my
• 1:08:11
  early videos and some people in the UFD community like to go
• 1:08:14
  back like 6-7 years. I made videos never seriously
• 1:08:17
  until I hit 52. And I remember I would make
• 1:08:21
  these videos and and in my mind, like every ex-girlfriend that I
• 1:08:25
  had and and whatever was going to watch these videos.
• 1:08:28
  And the reality is nobody cared, right?
• 1:08:31
  Nobody cares. Nobody ever made fun of me for
• 1:08:33
  videos that I made that. That now it's like, now it's
• 1:08:36
  like, yeah, I hope they see. Yeah, look at.
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  Me. Look at me.
• 1:08:41
  I'm a big shot in my basement. You wish you were still with me?
• 1:08:48
  Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:08:53
  That's funny a little bit. One of one of my notes says I I
• 1:08:58
  need to always ask my guest, is there anything I forgot to ask
• 1:09:02
  you any, any final words? I you kind of gave us some
• 1:09:04
  final, but that was powerful. I I love Alex Hermosi, right, by
• 1:09:08
  the way, Right. Yeah.
• 1:09:10
  I mean, you know, I want, Yeah. I mean, like, and, and Gary
• 1:09:13
  Vinerchuk. Vinerchuk.
• 1:09:16
  Yeah. I mean, I'm reading one of his
• 1:09:17
  books, you know, it's like, it's like these people are giving
• 1:09:23
  with all their information. It's incredible.
• 1:09:25
  So yeah. Exactly.
• 1:09:27
  Exactly. Yeah, man.
• 1:09:29
  All right, Ronnie, Thank you. Man, don't forget to drink
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  water. Victoria, OK.
• 1:09:33
  Definitely will not. All right, brother.
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  See you soon. Thank you.
• 1:09:36
  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Bye, bye, bye.