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Ep. 373 - Afflicted (2013) · Frightmares

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  Speaker 1: You are now listening to the Someone's Favorite Productions podcast network.
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  Speaker 2: The following podcast will contain spoilers, tangents, hot takes, and
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  Speaker 2: excessive foul language. Viewer discretion is advised enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to Frightenmarags Podcast. I'm your host Austin Proctor,
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  Speaker 3: and join any me today for episode three seventy three,
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  Speaker 3: is my good friend Corey Johnson.
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  Speaker 2: Hail everybody, I have an incurable brain disease.
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  Speaker 3: Jesus Christ. I forgot that was part of this movie.
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  Speaker 3: I honestly forgot a lot of this movie because I
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  Speaker 3: haven't seen it in like five years. But today, on
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  Speaker 3: another installment of vamprils By, we were discussing our deep
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  Speaker 3: cut pick Afflicted from twenty thirteen, a movie that proves
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  Speaker 3: intermittent fasting is not a healthy lifestyle choice. Let's see
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  Speaker 3: where this lands on the nightmare index. All right, So, Corey,
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  Speaker 3: have you watched anything recently that has been good that
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  Speaker 3: has been bad?
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  Speaker 1: Not?
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  Speaker 2: No, not really. We're we're in that kind of like
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  Speaker 2: semi lull period between like mega hitter releases, because you know,
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  Speaker 2: we had like January February, we had like a handful
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  Speaker 2: of just some real Bangers, not a whole not a
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  Speaker 2: whole lot. In March, we got The Faces of Death
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  Speaker 2: coming out real soon, which I'm super stoked for.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's not been a whole lot that I've
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  Speaker 2: been like, yeah, I gotta go see this right now.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm giving I'm giving the given the wallet a
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  Speaker 2: break from the from the theater and from the drive
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  Speaker 2: to the theater because it's a fucking thirty minute drive
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  Speaker 2: to the theater.
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  Speaker 3: It's thirty minutes everywhere just about, all right, So nothing
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  Speaker 3: not even anything non horror related.
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  Speaker 2: TV sh I'm uh well, I mean I started the
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  Speaker 2: new season a one piece live action yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, it's fun.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I really enjoyed it. I like the live action.
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  Speaker 2: I know that it is one of the anime slash
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  Speaker 2: manga adaptation that is a little more favor favorably looked
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  Speaker 2: upon because uh Echiro Oda is the creator and he's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you can't do any any of this without my say so,
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  Speaker 2: So you've got the actual creator backing the creative decisions.
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  Speaker 3: Perfect.
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  Speaker 2: But no other than that, I mean, it's been the
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  Speaker 2: same few shows I'm I'm watching right now because everything's
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  Speaker 2: on a weekly release because we went so far forward,
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  Speaker 2: we fell backwards into cable.
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  Speaker 3: We did, we did, and yeah, I mean you. At
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  Speaker 3: this point, I have Disney, Hulu, and HBO Max bundled together,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, we're steps away from just a master
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  Speaker 3: plan that involves everything you want. I fucking Jesus souh
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  Speaker 3: All right, Well, if you I've got plenty to go over,
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  Speaker 3: then if you don't have too much. I watched a
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  Speaker 3: couple new releases for this year, the first being Crazy
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  Speaker 3: Old Lady, which is on Shutter and despite its twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty five release date, it did not or it was
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  Speaker 3: not available in the States until March twenty sixth. I
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  Speaker 3: want to say, I'll read you the description here. Pedro
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  Speaker 3: receives a desperate message from an ex girlfriend asking him
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  Speaker 3: to look after her senile mother, Alicia. What seems like
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  Speaker 3: a simple decision or mission soon becomes his worst nightmare.
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  Speaker 3: Pedro needs needs an escape, but Alicia won't let him.
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  Speaker 3: This movie was fucked and it was not as crazy
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  Speaker 3: as I was thinking it would be. And really the
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  Speaker 3: biggest uh negative from me was the ending. They just
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  Speaker 3: left so much shit up in the air. I'm fine
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  Speaker 3: with ambiguity but when you leave four characters, just what's
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  Speaker 3: happening with these characters? Yeah, it kind of took away
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  Speaker 3: everything that happened. There is one scene though that I
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  Speaker 3: will never recover from. It was horrifying. I recommended. I
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  Speaker 3: gave it a three. It's a fun time until that
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  Speaker 3: one scene, and then I wanted to bleach my eyes.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean it was fun, it's crazy. It's also, uh,
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  Speaker 3: it from Venezuela, I think, so it is a Spanish
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  Speaker 3: in Spanish, let's see who that's interesting. Yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think we've gotten u Argentina. Sorry Argentina.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, so we have gotten Argentina because CUFE yeah
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  Speaker 2: is Argentinian.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, cool, So it's worth the watch. Got a two
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  Speaker 3: point eight out of five on Letterbox, so that one
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  Speaker 3: was definitely a ride. And then I watched something called
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  Speaker 3: The Demon. But it's spelled a. It's one of those as.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how you say those.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's it's the Latin spelling.
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  Speaker 3: It would be considered the date.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, depending on hot Yeah, depending on how boogie
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  Speaker 2: you want to get with it. It's either demon or Damon.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah Damon. Well we'll just go with that. This one
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  Speaker 3: also has a twenty twenty four release date and wasn't
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  Speaker 3: made available in till I think February. Oh, it finally
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  Speaker 3: has enough ratings to give an average. It's got a
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  Speaker 3: three point one. This one is on scream Box and
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  Speaker 3: it is set up to be another grief tragedy loss movie,
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  Speaker 3: but then they completely shift from It's almost like they
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  Speaker 3: were using that as a springboard to get to what
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  Speaker 3: they wanted to do. And I actually talked to the director.
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  Speaker 3: He inboxed me on Instagram and said thank you for watching,
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  Speaker 3: thank you for your review, and then we had a
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  Speaker 3: back and forth and he explained why he used the
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  Speaker 3: grief and kind of trauma trope that's been going around
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  Speaker 3: and contextualize it for me. I was like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 3: so this actually has meaning. It wasn't just another trend.
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  Speaker 3: So it was. It was a good one three out
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  Speaker 3: of five. It was a little too ambiguous for me
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  Speaker 3: and rewatching it, though, I with his context, I think
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  Speaker 3: it would go up for me because now it would
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  Speaker 3: make a lot more sense. But it's very cosmic horror,
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  Speaker 3: indie production good time, I mean production value was great, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean cosmic horror and indie is kind of like the
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  Speaker 2: sauce Yeah, because it it it is so rarely done
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  Speaker 2: well that when it is done well, it's like, ooh.
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  Speaker 3: It's like. My prime example is the Void Indie production
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  Speaker 3: fucking Stellar movie. So that one was good. Then I
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  Speaker 3: watched one called Gany Meade and this was sent over
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  Speaker 3: from AV Entertainment. I don't know how to feel about
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  Speaker 3: this one because it involves o man, it's like religious propaganda.
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  Speaker 3: It almost feels like it is about a small town
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  Speaker 3: wrestler develops a crush on an openly gay classmate, and
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  Speaker 3: by the end of the movie I felt like it
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  Speaker 3: was pro you know, community, But there were there were
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  Speaker 3: three uses of the e F slur, and the they
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  Speaker 3: were this, you know, the Christian religion was brought in
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  Speaker 3: and they're basically saying how homosexuality doesn't exist and it's
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  Speaker 3: all made up. And I was like, ah, this is
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  Speaker 3: a very strange way to get your message across. It's
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  Speaker 3: entirely possible that this was someone's experience in life that
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  Speaker 3: they were putting on screen, but the message of it
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  Speaker 3: being a pro gay film was just completely smothered in
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  Speaker 3: this Christian and doctrination propaganda. So I don't know how
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  Speaker 3: to feel about this one. I gave it a two
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  Speaker 3: and a half. I just don't know. I feel like
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  Speaker 3: context would help me hear it is a two point
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  Speaker 3: eight out of five. That one I don't think is
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  Speaker 3: streaming anywhere. I just, like I said, I got a
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  Speaker 3: review copy from av Entertainment, so that one I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Then I watched two documentaries, the program cons Cult and Kidnapping,
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  Speaker 3: Wild Shit four stars, and then one of the craziest
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  Speaker 3: ones I've seen it is called Love has Won the
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  Speaker 3: Cult of Mother God, which Michael recommended to me. Holy shit,
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  Speaker 3: did you ever hear about that lady that ate all
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  Speaker 3: that colidic silver and turned blue and died?
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  Speaker 2: I know, but I do remember that there were there
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  Speaker 2: was a trend on TikTok going around like last year
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  Speaker 2: sometime of people claiming they were taking colloidal silver for whatever. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't know specifically who you're referencing, And for
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  Speaker 2: some reason, this is not the correct person. But I'm
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  Speaker 2: just imagining the uh Long Island medium lady with the
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  Speaker 2: big hair, just with the with the big fat liar skin.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that's not correct, almost though, almost that
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  Speaker 3: one's crazy. But the program was on Netflix. Love Is
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  Speaker 3: One was on HBO Max or whatever the fuck it
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  Speaker 3: is now because they can't seem to pick a name.
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  Speaker 2: Finally finished, I think it's I think it's back to
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  Speaker 2: just plain HBO.
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  Speaker 3: Jesus Christ. I watched the last Transformers movie in the
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  Speaker 3: original sixth finally.
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  Speaker 2: Oh got it, dude.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't think it could get worse than whatever. The
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  Speaker 3: fucking last one was number five, Age of Extinction, because
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  Speaker 3: that one got a one and a half. Transformers The
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  Speaker 3: Last Night was just an utter slog of a two
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  Speaker 3: and a half, no, no, two hour, forty five minute movie.
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  Speaker 3: It was so goddamn dumb, and Michael Bay should be
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  Speaker 3: ashamed of this movie. Also, I'm all for aspect ratio
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  Speaker 3: changes in movies for key scenes, like in Centers, it'll
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  Speaker 3: switch to the IMAX aspect ratio for certain scenes. This
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  Speaker 3: fucking movie was switching between aspect ratios during a fight scene.
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  Speaker 3: I counted eleven in a minute, and it almost it's disgusted.
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  Speaker 3: It almost sent me into fucking psychosis. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 3: so horrible. One star in preparation for the New Faces
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  Speaker 3: of Death, even though they're like related but not related. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: I watched that man, it was. It was rough. The
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  Speaker 3: first thirty minutes thirty five minutes is all violence against animals.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what we're doing here.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't the opening of the first Faces of Death though,
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  Speaker 2: the guy that goes in to like the doctor's office
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  Speaker 2: with the screwdriver.
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  Speaker 3: Though, he goes into the like this corner's office, and
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  Speaker 3: then we get narration from him setting up the movie.
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  Speaker 3: And then he goes into the Many Faces of Death
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  Speaker 3: and it's all animal torture.
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  Speaker 2: Or I haven't seen it in so long. There like
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  Speaker 2: there's I've forgotten about it.
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  Speaker 3: There's a chicken being beheaded, which is which is one
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  Speaker 3: hundred percent real. There's no way to fake that. I
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  Speaker 3: know that cows and animals in the slaughterhouses being murdered,
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  Speaker 3: like just slitting their throats. I'm like, I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to see this.
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  Speaker 2: This is horrible.
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  Speaker 3: But after like thirty or forty minutes, it finally switches
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  Speaker 3: over to like people, and once it got there, I
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: was like, all right, I can see the merit. It
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: was coming out in the video nasty era of the seventies.
• 11:58
  Speaker 3: It is shock for shock value, and I understand its
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  Speaker 3: place in cinematic horror. It's not a good movie, but
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  Speaker 3: I don't necessarily think it's bad at the same time
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  Speaker 3: two and a half stars, just because I understand why
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  Speaker 3: it exists, So don't recommend it. It's rough, even the
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: stuff that you know, because some of it is real,
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: some of it is fake a lot of it or
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: not a lot of it, but some of it is
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  Speaker 3: actual news footage that was that they were given and
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: some of it was stuff from World War Two that
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: was like filmed during World War Two. Like, there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of real footage in there, but I would say
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  Speaker 3: sixty percent of it's probably fake.
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  Speaker 2: And I know and I know some of what they
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  Speaker 2: do is they'll set up the vignette as like a
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  Speaker 2: here's the news coverage, and then you'll get a cut
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  Speaker 2: and it's like a dramatization based off the news coverage.
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  Speaker 2: I do remember that much. But I do agree it
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  Speaker 2: is it is rough in all of the senses. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: in the sense of it it's rough to watch. The
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  Speaker 2: production is rough, Yeah, the audio is rough. Everything's rough
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  Speaker 2: and scuffed, and it's.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's it's not something I will ever watch again.
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  Speaker 3: It was one of those movies. Yes, one time is enough.
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  Speaker 3: I experienced it. Cool. Now I have any context if
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  Speaker 3: it is brought up in the new one, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like just in case. I don't know if they're gonna
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  Speaker 3: play clips from it, I have no idea. So that
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  Speaker 3: two and a half for that whatever. And then the
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  Speaker 3: last thing I watched that wasn't new was Howling two
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  Speaker 3: Your Sister Is a Werewolf. What a fuck awful sequel
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  Speaker 3: from the original Howling. That movie picked so many different
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  Speaker 3: directions to go in, wouldn't commit to one. Sybil Danning
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  Speaker 3: is in it, and this is at the point in
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  Speaker 3: her career where she was done with doing nudity, but
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  Speaker 3: the people involved in making the movie were like, you
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  Speaker 3: have to do one, so she did one. And then
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  Speaker 3: in the credits for the movie, they play that clip
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  Speaker 3: where she rips off her top seventeen times. Seventeen times.
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  Speaker 3: It's she was pissed, and it's rightly so, and it
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  Speaker 3: just kept going down my rating. I was like, a
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: right two and a half, and now now it's two.
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  Speaker 3: And then I was like, you guys only got one
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  Speaker 3: from her and then replayed it seventeen times. I was
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  Speaker 3: like losing a half star because that is so excessive.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's firebombing your own movie.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like one and a half terrible, terrible movie. And
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  Speaker 3: then the last new thing I watched for this year
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  Speaker 3: was The Yetti, which which actually was like a exclusive
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  Speaker 3: early access on Saturday. It doesn't release until this coming weekend,
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  Speaker 3: the tenth, and I don't know. It was funny at first,
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  Speaker 3: and then the comedy died off, and then it got
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  Speaker 3: really serious. Not enough Yetti. It was like all fillers
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  Speaker 3: enough YEI yeah, all filler, no killer, and then so
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: many plot points that Gaby and I were just like,
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  Speaker 3: it's clearly a first directed movie by these guys, like
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  Speaker 3: in no offense to them. They had a great setting
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: set like nineteen forty seven, a lot of good actors
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  Speaker 3: and actresses were involved, but it was just by the
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  Speaker 3: end of it, it was so underwhelming. You didn't get
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  Speaker 3: any of like the payoff that you wanted. And then
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  Speaker 3: like the Yetti for a well, which fucks off for
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  Speaker 3: like the last twenty minutes of the movie.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So can I just say how fucking jealous I
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  Speaker 2: am of all these goddamn sneak peeks and sneak previous
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  Speaker 2: cause see you posting about it on like TikTok or
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  Speaker 2: your your Facebook reels, and I'm like, damn, that's fucking
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  Speaker 2: so cool. We've finally gotten to the point where you're
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  Speaker 2: getting like a constant stream of sneak people.
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  Speaker 3: Well they keep doing them at my AMC two, and
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: it just happened to like, tonight, I'm actually going to
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: something called a scream unseen. They don't tell you what
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  Speaker 3: the movie is. It's just show up and we show
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  Speaker 3: you a movie that hasn't been released yet, no idea
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  Speaker 3: what the movie is gonna be tonight, and it's so exciting.
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  Speaker 3: This is just I'm I'm grateful to be able to
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  Speaker 3: see all these before the masses and then try to
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  Speaker 3: get out my content really quickly. So it's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of fun. But I think that's all I've watched besides
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  Speaker 3: our movie today. Afflicted, of course, but I say we
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  Speaker 3: move on to the body count was new it alright?
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  Speaker 3: So Afflicted is our movie from twenty thirteen. Released on
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  Speaker 3: April fourth, twenty fourteen, as a limited run in the US.
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  Speaker 3: It is rated R for disturbing bloody violence and language.
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  Speaker 3: There is no sex in nudity, severe violence and gore,
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  Speaker 3: moderate profanity, mild alcohol, drugs, and smoking and moderate frightening
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  Speaker 3: and at ten scenes coming in at a brisk hour
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  Speaker 3: and twenty five minutes. Listed as a horror mystery, sci
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  Speaker 3: fi thriller directed by Derek Lee, who only directed one
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  Speaker 3: other movie and four short films prior to Afflicted. The
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  Speaker 3: other movie is called The Last Stand of Ellen Cole
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  Speaker 3: from twenty twenty four. The same goes for the second director,
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  Speaker 3: Cliff Prowse. He only did four short films. I know
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  Speaker 3: that that's the same as Derek. Also written by Derek
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  Speaker 3: Lee and Cliff Prowse. They only have written other shorts.
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  Speaker 3: That's it kind of crazy because this movie is like
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  Speaker 3: such a good movie. Composed by Edo van Breeman, who
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  Speaker 3: also composed the Monkey and Keeper. Cinematography by Norm Lee.
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  Speaker 3: He also did the cinematography for Beyond the Black Rainbow,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: which is Panos Cosmados's first film. I think Calvin Fever
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: three Patients zero and a Chapel Rowan music video for
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: the Subway random as fuck.
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  Speaker 2: They made three Cavin Fevers.
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  Speaker 3: I knew there was two. I didn't know there was three.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even know there was two. I knew the one, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the good one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the good one. Edited by Greg ing n G.
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  Speaker 3: He also edited Long Legs, The Monkey and Keeper, starring
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  Speaker 3: Derek Lee as Derek. He has done six other short
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  Speaker 3: films prior to Afflicted, Cliff Prowess as Cliff. This is
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  Speaker 3: his only acting credits. Baya Rehas as Audrey, who was
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  Speaker 3: also in Blue Is the Warmth Color as Mariam, and
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  Speaker 3: then we have Benjamin z Town as Maurice, who has
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  Speaker 3: done a few other French productions. Estimated budget of three
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  Speaker 3: hundred and eighteen thousand grossing one hundred and twenty one
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  Speaker 3: point two thousand. Filmed in Vancouver, Canada, Barcelona, Spain, Paris, France,
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  Speaker 3: and Vernaza and Lespizia, Italy. You can watch this on
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  Speaker 3: Pluto now apparently from from the time of the last
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  Speaker 3: episode and now it is streaming, so yep.
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  Speaker 2: And that was the only place that I could find
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  Speaker 2: it without renting it.
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  Speaker 3: So there you go. It's on Pluto Movies like it.
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  Speaker 2: Wills, I will say, Pluto TV. Insane amount of ads, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I remember like a six and seven spot ad placement
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  Speaker 2: every twenty minutes, yeah, and for an hour and twenty
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  Speaker 2: And on Pluto TV it claims to be an hour
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  Speaker 2: in twenty four minutes, so for an hour and twenty
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  Speaker 2: four minutes. That's all we're getting like five ad breaks
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  Speaker 2: of six ads each.
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  Speaker 3: Fucking I mean, it's free. But at what movies that
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  Speaker 3: came out around the same time. Based on the limited
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  Speaker 3: theatrical run in twenty fourteen, we have three hundred rids
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  Speaker 3: of an Empire, the sequel Everyone Forgot About, Dark House,
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  Speaker 3: Need for Speed, thirteen Sins Exists, Predestination, Creep, Neighbors, Starry Eyes,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Night of the Wolf, Open Windows, Captain America, The Winter Soldier,
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Alien Abduction, Zombieavers, A Hunted House two, and one of
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: the most criminally underrated sci fi movies. Time laps. That
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: movie fucking rips. IMDb summary. Two best friends see their
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: trip of a lifetime take a dark turn when one
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: of them is struck by a mysterious affliction. Now in
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: a foreignland, they race to uncover the source before it
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: consumes him completely. This is the autopsy, so Corey, they.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Don't really race. They spend like twelve days just kind
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: of fucking around figuring out what he can do.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: That's true. They do spend some time after he wakes up,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: but overall thoughts for afflicted, what we got.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: This is a from my understanding. This is almost a completely,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent unique premise that I feel they do
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: extreme justice to and they for most of the movie,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: it is so wildly believable because of how they are
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: acting in the situations. It's really not up until like
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: the last thirty forty five minutes in the movie where
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, I don't I don't necessarily believe
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: this isn't happening anymore, right, but because of the format
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: and the youtubishness of how they were doing it, and
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it, Cliff is the one that sells
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: this whole situation, okay, just because he's essentially the narrator
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: for most of it until what happens to him happens
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: to him. But it's wildly believable for like ninety percent
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: of the movie, and it a wonderful cast of characters.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: They all feel like actual people that exist in the world.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: No, I agree, And I think it's funny because they're
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: using their real names. These are real people. I'm pretty
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: sure they're actual lifetime friends because they show clips of
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: them much younger than what they are making videos, and
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I really feel these are people that have
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: known each other for most of their life.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: So well, and like so for the knowing each other
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: for most of their life. So the Band on Alaska
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: was created for this movie. The two guys in the
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: band went wait, this is fun yeah, and became an
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: actual band, which is great because of the movie. So
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: you are probably right. I think all of these people
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: know each other, except for Audrey and Maurice. They were
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: probably hired in Paris.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. My overall thoughts for
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: this movie gonna include the hot take here might as well,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: haven't had one in a while, But I do genuinely
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: think this is one of the most original concepts for
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: a vampire movie. It adds such a sense of realism
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: by doing the found footage or POV narrative. And also
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: it is just the complete opposite of what a vampire
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: movie typically is. It's not dark and gothic, there is
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: no love interest, it doesn't have any of the trappings
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: of a typical vampire story, and yet it's still one
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: of the most fascinating takes on the subgenre in my opinion.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, for sure, it's it's property damaged the movie.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I forgot how nuts this movie. I mean,
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: I watched it one time, one time, like five years ago.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: I want to say, I just remember, you know, the
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: I thought. I thought the vampire part of it was
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: much more of a twist. But you just that happens
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: like like fifteen twenty minutes in is when he starts
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: showing signs and it doesn't really take long for you
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: to put it together. But I thought that was like
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: the ending reveal twist. And I was like, oh, no,
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: we we know about this for most of the movie.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: So why was I gonna say, oh, yeah, I'm trying
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: to see When I actually did watch it for the
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: first time, because it was a while ago. It just
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: happened to be streaming, and I was in my Thyeah,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: it was.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: An era for it was for our show.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, let's see. It was backcon March.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: You had found it and you were like, yo, we
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: got to check out this movie for the show. And
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, cool. And then I think that
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: was when we had broken down and stopped doing like
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: eight movies, and it was like, yo, let's do two
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: movies each. We're each gonna watch one of them and
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: then we're gonna pick another one.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty twenty is when we started doing two, because
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty one is when we started doing one movie finally,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: for the fucking love of God. So let's start where
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: did I want to start. Let's talk about why this
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: doesn't get talked about. Let's talk about that, because Inflicted
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: is one of those movies that really just slipped through
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: the cracks. You mentioned it on the last episode we
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: did Frankenstein's Army, where we see it pop up like
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: every six months or something in one of the groups
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: that we're in, and then fucking never see it again.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: And it's funny because right after we had that conversation,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: like two days later, it popped up in the group.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Quite the fun it was on the timeline.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: But also what I think is funny is we talked
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: about this on Frankenstein's Army because that was also a
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: found footed POV style movie. And I think because I
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: didn't mention this in that episode, but I think at
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: this point the genre was kind of wearing thin on people,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: because from like two thousand and seven to twenty twelve,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: like five we just got and found footage just dumped everywhere,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: so I think.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: And we got a lot of really like we got
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: some footage, and then we got like mostly not super great.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Right, So this thing shows up doing some genuinely fresh
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: ideas and it just doesn't get the attention it deserves.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: And going back to it after so many years, it's
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: kind of wild how it holds up not just as
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: a horror movie, but as a found footage movie that
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: actually justifies its own existence, because a lot of the
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: times in found footage movies, you're like, why are we
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: filming this? But in this case, and it shifts many
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: times in the movie, it shifts from being kind of
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: this documentary about their trip, and then it turns into okay,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: well let's film this because what's going on with Derek,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: And then after Cliff, you know, gets goosed, Derek is
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: just filming this because he feels it needs to be
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: recorded because he doesn't also understand what's going on with him.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: So there's like actual justification for the camera to be
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: running as much as it is, which is kind of
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: rare sometimes in the in the found footage movement. I
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: don't know how you feel about that or or if
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: that feels valid.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: I would say it's it's kind of fifty to fifty
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: because even in some of the not as good found footage.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: They they usually try and find a justification too, right, right,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: But then I go back to something like the Curse
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: of a Roar, which it's literally being filmed POV style
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: because that's the theme of the movie. There's really not
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: all there's no other reason to be doing it like that.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean it's kind of fifty to fifty.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I think the real reason that this got passed over
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: was now, I don't know how the trailers went or whatever.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah I don't either. I have I never saw a
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: trailer for this. I just all it streaming and popped
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: it on.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: But if they use the any of the first I
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: don't know, fifteen twenty minutes of the movie, it's gonna
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: look like a POV like Buddy film.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's what it's gonna look like.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: So people were probably like, what, No, this looks dumb
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: as shit, right, because the reason the the kind of
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: POV party thing worked in uh like Cloverfield in the
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: trailers is because they show it for a second and
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: then they show the giant fucking statue of Liberty head
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: falling from the sky, and then they cut into everything
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: else and you're like, Okay, sure, you can still have
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: the mystery, but if you show any of the action
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: parts of the found footage with Afflicted, it's going to
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: absolutely destroy the entire movie. You have to be told
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: what is going on in the context of the movie.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Otherwise it's like, oh what.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what am I watching? Yeah? Exactly. But this is
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: honestly one of those movies where you recommend it to
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: people and they go, wait, why have I never heard
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: of this? And I was like, I don't fucking know,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: But that's why we're here doing this. You gave me
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: the idea last episode where I was like, we gotta,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: we gotta cover this. So I rearranged this month entirely.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Outside of Fright Night, almost every movie this month is
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: now different, which is fine. I mean I just posted
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: the lineup, which is the updated version yesterday, so uh.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: I think what really makes us work is we touched
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: on this is how it starts, because it doesn't feel
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: like a horror movie at all. Even when I put
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: this on, I didn't tell my wife what we were watching.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: I just threw it on and I was hoping that
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: it wouldn't show a title card, which it didn't, which
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: was great. It only shows It only shows afflicted at
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: the end of the movie, so she had no idea
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: what was going on. But she did catch on to
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: the vampires pretty quick because it's vampire month. Though she
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: kind of already assumed this would be amazing, so she
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: already a shit.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: She's smarter than both of us.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: So, but it doesn't feel it just feels like you're
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: watching two friends, you know, document it once in a
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: lifetime trip. There's a looseness to it, a natural chemistry
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: that doesn't feel scripted, probably because they have been friends
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: for so long. It's messy, the way real found footage is,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: it's not perfectly framed. Sometimes it's blurry, conversations overlap. The
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: jokes are always landing for me, though I thought. I
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: thought the interactions were hilarious, and everything feels grounded enough
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: for you to buy it immediately. You're like, okay, I
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: mean And that's the biggest sell of a found footage
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: movie is the believability of it. And this starts off
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: so believably. By the end, it does get a little
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: you know, i'd say, cinematic, but it gets a little
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: more unbelievable. I'd say about the point when he live streams.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Maurice I was like, this is about the point where
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: I think we're getting into fiction. Yeah, but everything before
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: that is very, very believable.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: But what I will say is when they do leave
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: the realm of believability, they say, all right, we're at
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: least gonna make it fucking cool, right, And I reference
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: the fight with Audrey and just the absolute acrobatics that
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: they're doing. And what I really appreciate is they are
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: using their cuts in such a way that you can
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: definitely tell like he jumped off a ladder or like
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: they put a li and he doesn't even look like
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: wires because pretty much every cut that isn't him being
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: thrown somewhere. He's like jumping down from stuff, and it's like, oh,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: they just hit a ladder behind this pillar and then
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: hit record a microsecond after he jumped off. And then
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: for the throwing things, it's like, oh, they probably just
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: had him jump off and then ran that backwards. Like
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: it's it's so so super simple in some of the
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: effects that even though it's not believable because of how
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: simple it is, your brain doesn't think about it, right,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: so you're just like, oh, okay, yeah, fucking vampire fight.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Great. Well yeah, And because when things do start to
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: go wrong, it doesn't feel like such a tonal shift.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: It feels like this is really happening, because it goes
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: from that kind of like buddy comedy to a whoa, okay,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: fucking Derek is on the bed, he's bleeding, what's going on?
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: That part feels so believable. And then he goes through
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: these changes pretty i'd say, quickly, but they discover them
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: at and i would say, a very good pace, and
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: then you're like, Okay, what the fuck's happening? Like he's
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: throwing up from the food, he's getting burned in the sun,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: and then they realize he's super strong, so they go
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: break bricks and he's jumping up the side of the building.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: So it has this such it has such a natural
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: progression that that it goes very seamlessly in like that
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: I'd say three tonal shifts maybe from like comedy to
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: fucking mystery to revenge, you know, because he's like trying
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: to track Audrey down and like get or get an
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: explanation or get revenge. It has these shifts, but they
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: feel so natural. It's not like a fucking whiplash.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: And you know, I was. I was actually thinking about
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: this this morning before we got on because I knew
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: you were gonna mention tonal shifts. And there is there
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: is one thing that I feel I can attest to
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: why it doesn't feel like true tonal shifts. Sure is
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: because in the first I don't know, five ten minutes,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: they open up with Derek's AVM, his his blood vessel
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: things in his head. So we we know pretty much
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: from go that anything that he is about to do
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: in this movie could be considered dangerous right, like any
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: at any moment, this man can drop dead, right, which
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: is why he's going on this trip. So everything else
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: predicated after that. You're like, oh, well, okay, I mean,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: is this worse than the brain disease?
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Not really?
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you are you aren't sure if the reactions
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: he's having are because of that or something else. Like
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: I said, my wife put it once once he got
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: burned in the sun. She was like, okay, so this
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: is definitely a vampire movie. But again she knew it
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: was Vampire month. So I think that when I first
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: put it together that he was probably a vampire. What
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think because I remember that being like,
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: oh shit, he's a vampire. I would probably say, is
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: when because even the superhuman strength. At first, I was like,
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: well yeah, and I wasn't thinking this at the time,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: but retrospectively, I'm yeah, vampires do have superhuman strength, superhuman speed.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: But for me, it was when he licked the blood
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: off of that stranger off of his hand. I was like,
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: why would you do that? That's very strange. I was like,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: that's something a vampire would probably do well.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: And I remember watching this for the first time when
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: he breaks through the fucking concrete wallah and Cliff is like,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: you just broke the wall. Try this one, Try this one.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, they are in like tiny place nowhere,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Italy where a lot of the things are made of
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: old stone and plaster. So punching through a wall in
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: a place where you know history started, I don't know,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: maybe it's just the old wall. And then they go
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: directly into punching the boulder and I'm like, I'm like, okay, okay,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: thank you for now just completely upending my thought pro.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: And I think that's why they do it, because you're right,
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: I mean a lot of those bricks are those stones
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: at this point just might have deteriorated over time, but.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Especially because they make Derek try and break the stone,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: but all Cliff does is pick it up and hand
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: it to him. So they don't give you like a oh,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Cliff can't.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Do that right, right, right exactly.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: They just kind of leave it out, so you're like,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: maybe I.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Don't know, right, So you get that, you get the
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: him smashing a brick in half, or that boulder. I mean,
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: that thing was fucking huge, and honestly, it reminded me
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: a lot of Chronicle, which came out in twenty twelve.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: It it does have some very heavy Chronicle vibes to it.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: So I was like, Okay, you know, at first, I'm thinking,
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: is it's just gonna be kind of another Chronicle, just
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: set in a different place. And I almost feel that
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: they do that. It's entire this is entirely speculation, but
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: I feel like they might have done that to misdirect
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: you because one of those movies came out it was
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: the year before this movie came out, so maybe it is,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: maybe it's not. But then you finally get really once
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: he licks the blood off his hand and then starts
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: taping newspapers to the windows. You're like, all, all right,
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: you gotta be a vampire. And of course they have
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: that funny moment where Cliff is like, here are the
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: fucking symptoms of a vampire and trying to help him
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: out and stuff like that. And the progression of him
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: to trying blood is very interesting because they explain to
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: you what he can and cannot have through us seeing it.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Fucking blood from a butcher not working, blood from a an,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: and a freshly killed animal not working well. The only
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: thing besides that that's gonna work is most likely human blood.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: So I love it. I loved how they explain that
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: without telling us we experienced it.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Also, speaking of the scene where he licks the blood,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: did you get a vibe? And maybe this is just me,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I felt that that scene very very much mirrored the
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: scene from uh My European Nightmare where Sergoy goes and
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: does his first kill in that like tunnel area where
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: he sets the camera down, ye, and he runs up
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: to the guy and he kills him, and then he
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: comes back and he like licks the knife. Oh yeah,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: I was like this because they're both taking place in
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Paris too. I'm like, this feels so similar.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Completely different movie too, that's his descent into madness. And
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: I love the two different titles of that one, My
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: American Dream and My European Nightmare. I love the fact
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: that they had two different names for that one. That's
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: what I need to rewatch. That's it's been a minute
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: since I've seen that one.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm waiting until I can talk Jessica into watching it,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: oh because the and I think the only reason she
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: won't is that one scene where he's out in the
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: woods with the dead bird and the dead rabbit and
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: he's like doing a puppet show with him. I think
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Jessica will have a real problem with that. Everything else
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: should be fine, yeah, but once she gets to that,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: she's gonna be like, no, turn it off the animals.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, but it's the very end, gonna he's
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: gonna light a child on fire and then eat him,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Like come on.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: So uh yeah, so Derek, because you know, he becomes sick,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: he becomes disoriented, he's he's kind of slower to react
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: to things. And I really love how this movie showcases
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: what happens when he doesn't get the blood he needs.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: He goes into this almost catatonic state. Where he's frozen.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: But then Cliff is like, I think he needs blood
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: because he'll or he can smell my blood because he
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: passes his hand over his face and Derek like freaks out.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: But he goes into such what he's almost like, I
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: don't even know what you would call. It feels like
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: a catatonic state. His eyes are completely glossed over. And
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: that's what happens when you don't eat. Because he tells Audrey,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: He's like, I've been eating like once a week or
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: once every two weeks. I can't do this.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: And she's like, dude, you I can't. I can't kill
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: somebody every ten days.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's like, you need to be eating every
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: four to five days. Your eyes are already turning, and
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: once you turn there's no going back. So they establish
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: that if you go for food without blood long enough,
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: you will turn into basically a rabid vampire that can't
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: stop killing. That is such a cool I mean, I'm
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: sure that's been done before, but the fact that if
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: you go for a certain amount of time without end
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: you basically cannot control yourself anymore. That is a great
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: an addition to a vampire story.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: It's so good is, but it also brings up my
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: one and I would say my one and only kind
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: of okay, pitfall slash gripe maybe loophole type thing, because
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: we see Audrey drive a giant piece of w would
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: through Derek's heart to prove that he can't be killed.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: So if Audrey knows that there are essentially feral vampires
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: out there that cannot be returned to sentient vampires, yeah,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: that means she has seen one somewhere, right. How is
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: that a thing that continues? Because if they're just out
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: killing randomly, you think in this world there would be
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: a whole lot more awareness of vampires because if you
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: can't shoot him in the head, you can't kill them
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: with a stake to the heart. It is now implied
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: that there's they are just like pure immortals, like they
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: just straight up cannot be killed.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: That's what the.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Where are all these other vampires?
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's something I didn't think about. It's
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: entirely possible because you have to figure if she's a
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: vampi she has a you know, there's gotta be some
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: like commune of vampires somewhere. It's possible. I don't know,
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: there's there's an explanation for it that I'm not thinking
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: of right now. Maybe they Yeah, I don't know. You'd
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: think they were pro that was.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: The only because like during that whole fight scene, I'm like, yeah,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: but what like okay, yeah, he loses his humanity, but
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: then what's what's like he can't be killed? What's the outcome? Like, yeah,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: what's the consequence of him not feeding aside from going
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: feral and turning?
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Can we get a sequel where it's just Derek being
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: a fucking feral vampire with a gobro strap.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: To his chair? Oh my god, that would be great. Yeah,
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: I guess I guess that's true because if if that's
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: out there, then there has to have been at least
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: one case where that happened. I mean, who, It's entirely
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: possible this happened centuries ago, you know what I mean?
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Like, who that's true?
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Who knows how long? I mean? I know they mentioned
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: something about Audrey not turning someone in like fifty years
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: or something. It's been you know, I think it's established
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: that she's been a v empire for fifty years and
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: she hasn't turned anybody in that time. But I'm sure
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: vampires spread the word to other vampires, like, hey, you
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: better eat every four or five days or else you'll
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: go feral. I mean, I'm gonna go with it. Happened
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: centuries ago, back before civilization was fully you know where
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: it's at now, and they saw it, and you know,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: they had to put an end to that vampire somehow.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know, because he can't be killed, or at
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: least not in traditional ways. I'm sure if you cut
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: a head off then maybe you could. But he also
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: shoots himself in the head at one point, and.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: With a double barrel shotgun. Oh yeah, oh my largest
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: the largest boom that some random dude in fucking Italy
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: can get.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's shown the next day that hit his
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: head has completely healed. So I like the fact that
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: nothing can kill them, because it's a not far of
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: a step up from traditional vampire lower. Usually it's a
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: stake to the heart. Sometimes it's silver bullets, but that's
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: more a wearable if he so, this is just your immortal,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: you cannot die. It's a natural progression from a regular
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: vampire lore. So it takes established lower and kind of
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: just does something slightly different with it. Garlic's not really mentioned.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Sunlight obviously hurts them. No mention about crucifixes or holy water.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Though, although garlic may never be mentioned, but it might
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: be unintentionally mentioned in the sense of that when it happens,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: like when they start figuring it out they're in Italy. Yeah,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: I have never eaten a piece of Italian food that
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: did not have garlic. That's fair, that's so fair. That
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: might that might be the Hey, here's the garlic thing.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, here's the garlic thing. We're not gonna mention it.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean it's entirely possible what he was eating.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: It looked delicious, by the way, Oh my god.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all the food looked delici.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Both of those plays.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: I don't even and I don't even like pesto, and
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: I was like, damn, that pestle looks fucking good.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Right, I was like, godly. And that's what I think
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: is so impressive about this movie is they went to
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: all of these countries and they were filming a lot
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: of the times in the fucking streets. That is That
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: is so crazy to me. I don't know that was that.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Was one of the things I leaned over to Jessica
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: and said I said, there is no way that they
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: are just in an Italian street at night with nobody there.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: That like not possible.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm assuming they had to work with
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: the they had to work with someone there to clear
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: out some of the streets for these shots. But it's
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: very impressive that they were able to do so many
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: of these shots at night in the city. I mean
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: they're scaling buildings at one point, which I mean clearly
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: they were definitely on wires for that one, because I
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: watched the way, Yeah, I watched the way he jumped,
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: and I was like, definitely on wires.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: So now that we're on that part, that that that
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: me into one other thing. Sure, So because he is,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: he is definitely in France when this is happening. Yeah,
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: and my whole my joke forever, And I apologize to
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: any of our French listeners, but y'all lost y'all's own
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: civil war, and there is no way that French police
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: are gonna see a man jump from ground five stories
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: up and go, yeah, let's keep going after him. No
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: fucking way, no fucking way. I don't care what size
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: gun you have. You've shot him sixteen times and he's
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: still running. Nah, fucking give up.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: You're done. Yeah, we're done. And it turns into almost
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: a video game, and not in it like Frankensigin's Army,
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: but and not in a bad way. Well, I guess
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: I didn't say it was a bad way in Franknsiin's Army.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: But when he is scaling that building and goes up
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: five stories and plops up there, fucking guys start coming,
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: you know, on the roof with guns and he just
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: jumps across. I mean, I don't genuinely under stand house
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: they got some of this footage because when he lunges
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: across the street to another building, I mean, was he
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: on was he on wires? Did they just throw a
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: camera like?
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: So?
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: I think if what they might have done is they
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: might have set up like a so you know how
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: in the NFL they have that giant camera on a
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: cable that goes That's probably what they did, just with
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: whatever case, they probably took Cliff's chest, rig strapped it
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: to a box, strapped the box to a cable, and
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: sent it down.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Some of these shots, I'm like, dude, this is so impressive.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they they are really even the like jumping down
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: off a platform over a fence and like running through
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: these tunnels. I'm like, that's still that, Like, yeah, he's
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: just running, but to do it in a way that
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: I can actually see what he's doing is impressive.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's run through these corridors, he does
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: like almost some parkr ad points. He's running from these
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: cops and running and running, and I'm just like, man,
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: this is truly filmed very well. I forgot how well
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: it was filmed.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: My favorite shot of that and it's not even really
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: that impressive. It's when, uh, it's when Derek lifts the
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: car and sets down and the car alarm goes off
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: and they're both like, we gotta get out of here,
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: we gotta get out of here. And you see Cliff
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: point the camera at Derek, point it down as he
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: starts moving, and then pick it up again and Derek's
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: already running around the corner and I'm like, that's so
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: fucking sick.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: That's what I said to It was like, I was like,
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: how fast as fuck boy? How fastest? It's almost like
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: that scene in as above so below, but instead of
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: instead of him just walking, he's just fucking sprinting like
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: so fast, and that scene. Dude, the scene too where
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: he's on the moped Cliff and he's filming Derek running.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know how they did that because he's like,
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: I'm at sixty kilometers and then he flips it over
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: to Derek, who literally looks like he's running like Superman,
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: and eventually he passes Cliff. Very good, very good camera.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: The only way to do that, obviously, is that Derek
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: is a real vampire.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: Like, it's clearly some camera.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: That's why he hasn't made any more movies.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, he's clearly. It is such a wild fucking movie.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, Jesus Christ, let's see here. I was fucking
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: lost for I think I've just gone over so many
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: of my notes. I'm not even realizing it. Oh yeah,
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, here we go. So we've talked about the
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: tonal shifts, and then by the time you get to
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: the third act, I feel the tone shifts for the
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: last time. Because there's no hope of reversing this. Audrey
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: says like, there's no cure. This is who you are.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: And you think if there was a cure, that I
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have cured myself by now, right.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: And we get the because really I think all he
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: wants is an explanation at minimum, and she was like,
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: I thought I was being nice, you were dying. I
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: would never turn somebody intentionally, so I think she was
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: mercy killing him. And maybe Gabby speculated that she heard
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: all the friends coming up to the door and bolted,
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: or she didn't drain enough blood out of him to
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: kill him, so she was mercy killing him because he
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: was dying.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: And then now it's note and see I took it
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: as during their conversation in the bar, he probably let
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: loose like, oh, hey, we're here on this trip because
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: I've got this brain disease and YadA YadA, and she
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: took pity on him and said, I'm going to take
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: away your brain disease and I'm going to turn you
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: so that you don't have to live with this disease anymore.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: And before he could be awoken and her explain it
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: to him, they do the Turkish cock block. So well,
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: I do think she bolted, but I think her original
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: intent was to wait till he woke up and say, hey,
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: you're vampire. Here's how it goes, YadA YadA. But then
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: the friends came in and it destroyed the whole plan.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: And see, that's what I thought too until Gabby said that.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: She literally says, I would I have never and would
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: never turn anybody intentionally. So I don't know it could
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: be either or at this point, but it does feel
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: like she was doing that so he wouldn't die, but
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: I could also see her trying to mercy kill him.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: Either way, he gets an explanation, which is very interesting
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: because I didn't remember if he got an explanation. And
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: then that's, of course when it really goes off the rails.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: From there, well, I guess it didn't really go off
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: the rails. He kidnaps that guy who clearly as a
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: child molester, and uh, I guess he's trying to He's
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: like the dexter of vampires. He's getting he's gonna start
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: getting people that deserve to die and just feeding off
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: of them at this point, like because.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: That's that's what Audrey says is she says, you you
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: can't choose not to feed, but you can choose who
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: you kill, and that makes a difference. And I'm like, okay,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, I appreciate that you're trying to throw some
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: some like morals into being a vampire.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, which is which, yeah, it is interesting. So yeah,
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, and I love the fact that it's not
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: just the horror about this movie, it's it's like the
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: inevitability of of what's happening there. This isn't something that
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: he chose. It was one night, one encounter, and one
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: moment that didn't really seem like it mattered until there's
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: no going back from from being a vampire, as he
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: clearly found out. I remember when she stabbed him in
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: the heart with the wooden steak. I was like, oh shit,
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: does he die? And then he gets back up and
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, this is just like you're a mortal immortal,
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: Like you're not immortal, but some things can kill you.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: Now you're just straight up fucking wolverine at this point,
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: and you're gonna self heal. And that's where we're at,
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: which again is just a fun, fun variation of the
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: vampire lore. But I mean, this is exactly why you
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: don't talk to strangers on vacation, you know, mind your
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: own business. That was kind of the theme of Fright
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Night's episode. Mind your own fucking business. Don't talk to strangers,
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: or at least don't talk to strangers in France, you know.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: No.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: So the lesson here is you can go to France, okay,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: but don't talk to people in bars okay, because they're
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: either gonna turn you into a vampire or get you
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: trapped in the fucking catacombs.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: Gabby, while we were watching this was like, wouldn't it
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: have been hilarious if he got to the catacombs in
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: France and walked past the crew from as Above? So far,
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: so fucking crossover. I need right, just like, what are
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: you guys doing? Oh, we're just exploring, all right, I'm
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: running away. It would have been great. Oh my god,
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: if this movie ended up in the catacombs, that would
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: have been amazing. Let's see, is there anything else? I
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: don't think I have anything. I don't know if there
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: was something else you wanted to mention that we did
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: to I mean, I.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Mean not really. This is this is kind of a
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: movie that it's not a turn your brain off movie
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: because you do have to focus a little bit, definitely,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: but it but it's it's super super fun because of
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: how it is originally presented to your So you know,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: like I said, the formatting of how they do it
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: is probably my favorite thing about this movie because it
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: is for a ninety percent of the movie. It is
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: super believable, right, like and and and then they're show
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: in the comments from the family of like, bro, did
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: you lick blood off your hand?
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Turn yourself thin? And people are worried about you. Where's Cliff?
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Like they give you all these little minute details where
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: it's just like, oh no, this is actually happening in
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: twenty fourteen.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: And that was the cool thing about is they were
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: updating it as they went along. And eventually Derek's brother,
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: I think, Jason, he pops up with the cops and
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: Derek's like, what the fuck are you doing here? Why
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: do you have the cop? Like you can't be here,
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: I'm dangerous. Get away from me. That was actually I
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: completely forgot about that moment. But I can't believe his
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: brother showed up with the cops, Like, dude, dude, I
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: know you're trying to help, but don't show up with
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: the cops. Don't do that to your brother. And then
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: of course he runs away and you get more Parkore.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: It's a good time. I mean, this is why I'm
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: glad you mentioned it on the last episode we did,
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: because I definitely wanted to highlight it, especially because I
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: don't feel like it's talked about nearly enough. And of
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: course I will be plugging this in the found footage group, like, hey,
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: come listen to this episode of Afflicted.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Remember this movie, Remember this movie?
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: Please love would love to speak to Derek and Cliff
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: on this movie.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: I'm going and I'll talk to either of them.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I will track them down. I don't I don't know.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: I don't think they'll be that hard to get in
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: contact with. But who knows. People are deleting social media
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: left and right at this point, so, but yeah, these
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: are My question is like, why why didn't you make
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: any more movies? May And it's entirely possible because this
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: one just wasn't popular. You know, they might have lost
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: money on this. I mean it costs about three hundred thousand,
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: they got back one hundred and twenty one. I mean,
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know, it's entirely there's many reasons why someone
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: wouldn't make another movie. But it's just so strange to
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: hop into the scene, make a killer movie and then
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: just peace out, Like it's very strange.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: You know, maybe they already had this fucking trip planned
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: and they were like, what if we just take all
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: our cameras and shoot a movie while we're doing this
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: in hopes of making our money back?
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah? True, who knows. That's why I need to find
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: them and I need to talk to them because I
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: have many a question for Cliff and Derek. Yeah, I
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: think that's I think that's all I've got. I'll just
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: say I'll end with this. I think Afflicted as one
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: of the best examples of how to reinvent a familiar
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: concept two concepts, I mean, found footage and vampires. It
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: feels real in a way most horror movies don't, and
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: I think that's what makes it hit harder because outside
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: of and see that's the thing with Cloverfield, you know
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: what you're getting into when you watch that movie unless
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: you didn't see the trailer, But that one starts off
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: kind of the same way, except they're sending a friend
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: off and then chaos breaks out, so that one kind
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: of starts very similar to Afflicted, like these are just
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: this is this is just these two guys and they're
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: going on a trip. But I can't really name another
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: found footage movie that does what Afflicted does, where that
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: tonal shift from them being buddies to oh god, Derek
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: is dying. Probably there is such a great, such a
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: great like misdirection in the beginning of the movie, at
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: least I think so so I.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Under and I understand why they killed off Cliff, but
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: I wish they would have killed off Cliff just a
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: little bit later. He was he was my favorite character.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: I'm like, he's so genuine in everything he does, and
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: in the times where he's like trying to confront Derek
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: about what's going on, like he seems so earnest, and
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: it feels like such a real conversation that he's He's like,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: you're my friend, I feel responsible for you, Like we
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: gotta do something, and Derek's like, if they put me
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: in a hospital, I'm never leaving. I'm like, well, that
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: makes sense.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: And it was so sad how he died because he like,
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: you know, cuts his arm to give him blood and
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: he goes to hand it to Derek and it's that
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: point it's too late. Derek is way too hungry. He's
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: not about to open the you know, a little jar
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: of blood you gave him, And it's very sad, and
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: I was thinking, I was like, oh my god, goes
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: Cliff could turn into a vampire, and I guess technically
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: he does, because the last shot of the movie during
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: the credits is Cliff popping up and killing those kids.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: So make sure you stay through the credits because Cliff
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: does pop back up. Uh. And I guess he did
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: turn into a vampire, but he's Yeah, I wish they
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: killed him much much later. He was great, but Gabby
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: had a huge problem with him. She was like, you
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: gotta be a ride or die. You fucking he didn't
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: do anything about getting people blood, and I was like, yo,
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: well you're not gonna throw your morals out the window.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: I'm not. Yeah, like you know what I mean. They
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: tried to go to the blood bank, but that shit
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: didn't work at all. Ye also ambulance.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: And and he he is ride or die. He just
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: chose the ladder, right.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: He was trying to figure out if we can do
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: this without killing someone.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: And then he did die. So he rode and then died.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: He really was he he's not he's he's.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Not ride or die, He's ride and die.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole new fucking phrase right there, because he
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: could have easily packed up his bags and left once
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: Derek started acting weird. I mean he could have, but
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: he did stay. So I'll argue he is ride and die. Yeah,
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: I think that's the perfect place to end. So that
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: was afflicted from twenty thirteen. Let's move on to the
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: final cut. Womp. All right, so some trivia. There was
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: not much trivia. There was three things about trivia. Edo
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: Van Breeman and Zachary Gray enjoyed working together so much
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: they decided to make the fictional band on Alaska into
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: a real band with the same name. Filming took place
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: in Barcelona, Paris, Italy, and Vancouver on a budget of
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: three hundred and eighteen thousand dollars. And this is Tasa
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: Tasia's Telly's debut, so not much information. Do have some
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: petty goofs, though, two petty goofs. When Derek and Audrey
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: fly or drop from above, or when they throw around
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: their victims, their bodies have a trajectory showing the actors
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: are attached to a guidewire system. Yeah, they're not fucking
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: really jumping around. And then this one too. It is
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: highly unlikely Interpol would have brought in the investigation of
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: Derek and Cliff's crimes regarding the blood Bank ambulance incident.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: The simple fact a foreign national commits a crime doesn't
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: mean that the international police are needed. If anything, INTERPOOL
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: might help liaison with the Canadian government regarding the men's
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: prior criminal history, but they wouldn't take the active role
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: of serving arrest. Jesus Christ rated six point two out
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: of ten on IMDb, which equivalates to a three point
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: one out of five for our purposes of the Nightmare Index.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: Funny enough, it also has a three point one out
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: of five on letterboxed eighty three percent on the Tomato Meter,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: and a fifty seven percent audience score. What did you
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: give this, Corey?
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: So I had forgotten I had rated this on Letterbox previously.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: My original rating was a three point five okay. It
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: has since been upgraded to a.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: Four okay perfect. So I had it at a four
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: and have raised it to a four point five. So
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: that is a frightmare certified slap and that gives us
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: a nightmare index of who three point six eight, which
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: is quite high. That means it is sitting in between
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: dead stream at a three point six y three and
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: we are still here at a three point six y' nine.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: Love that similar movies. According to IMDb, we have The Bay,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: The Den, The Tunnel, Devil's Pass, and The Possession of
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: Michael King. All solid movies if I'm being quite honest.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: Similar movies. According to Letterboxed, we have Thirty Days of Night,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: Evil Dead vhs as above, so below, and something called Prowl.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: What the fuck is this movie? From twenty ten? Ooh
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: a two point two out of five. I'm putting that
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: on the watch list. Where is streaming on Plex? I
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: know what I'm watching next? Uh? Do you have any
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: funny reviews? Good sir?
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: I have four funny reviews and an Eric Cloud review.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: Ah, all right, what do you got? All right?
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: Uh? First review from samsonite O four at a half star.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Some of these reviews that I picked make no fucking sense,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: which is why they're funny. I love it so all
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: right for the scene we need you to again, I
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: think and it's not and it's not the it's not
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: the like two it is t oh.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: I think they're missing some very key words that would
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: have given us some context. Yeah, three stars from May.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: The moral of this story is don't go to France,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: but everyone knows to not go there anyway. I'm so sorry, Franz,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: I'm so sorry.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: This is another one rife with uh spelling and grammar mistakes.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: I'm going to read it how I think it's supposed
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: to be.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: Perfect.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: A one star review from Eira. What happened Villa? Why
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: you crying again?
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: I know?
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Vampire right? But now let me let me read it
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: to you how it's written. Okay, what happened Villa? Why
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: you crying again? I know? Vampire right, vampire.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: Let me oh yeah, okay, all right, vamfire interesting. Three
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: and a half stars from Jane. I don't this is
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: gonna make sense to anybody who watches Twilight. I just
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: thought it was funny modern day Twilight. If Carlyle was
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: a sexy French woman. I guess Carlyle's not a woman.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Someone out there might have laughed like
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: those two people.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: So that was for you, Except it's totally fucking not
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: anywhere near Twilight perfect because I've seen those movies. Unfortunately
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: I've seen them, but I also read the books in school.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: Wow, okay, all right next.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: A five star from s Joshi five seven one three
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: found footage?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: Is that it? Yeah? That's it? Three stars from Cain
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: Gary O'Keefe. This should be shown to every American as
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: a cautionary tale of what happens if they come to Europe,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: not just not just France, just all of Europe.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: A five star and a art from SJS made me
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: shit my brains out.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: Good Lord. Three stars from Jess. I think this is
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: the first vampires who ever not make me want to
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: be a vampire. Fucking fucking agreed.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: And then the only review that makes any type of
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: cohesive sense from Eric Cloud A four star and a
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: heart yes, yes, yes, originality, great use of pov found footage,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: genuinely able and empathetic characters, plus fun and well executed
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: action set pieces not all commonplace in the genre.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: Nice, that's our boy, Eric Cloud. I think that's the
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: first time we've all agreed. More are the most as
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: we all gave it four or more stars. That's perfect. Yeah.
• 1:05:55
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• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: It is streaming on fandaniging fandangu, Peacock and YouTube, so
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: this one's a little bit more readily available than Afflicted was.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: But hey, at least at least Afflicted is now streaming
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