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NFL Week 5 - Sunday Shippers | Main Slate | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems go.
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  Speaker 2: Clear for liftoff.
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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone? Tyler Tamblyn here, a.k.a. ToeTag and Tambo,
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  Speaker 1: back for another edition of Sunday Shippers. Here on the
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  Speaker 1: Ship It Nation YouTube station, we got Week 5 NFL
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  Speaker 1: DFS coming up. Hoop, title here with me as usual.
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  Speaker 1: Hit that thumbs up. Make sure to subscribe to the channel.
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  Speaker 1: We got some big announcements when it comes to Ship
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  Speaker 1: It games. Shout out to our guy, Sharks. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: to that in a moment. But Hoop, Bring you in first, man.
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  Speaker 1: Another week on tap. And this is a good one.
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  Speaker 1: 11 games. There's really one game, but we will talk
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  Speaker 1: about all 11. And then eventually we'll get to that
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  Speaker 1: one that everybody wants to talk about. But how you doing,
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  Speaker 1: my friend? What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, doing well.
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  Speaker 4: I'll try to break down the slate, obviously. Week five,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, led us off with a pretty big upset.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the Cowboys, oh man, that was tough to watch.
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  Speaker 4: But hopefully get some good football today. In terms of
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  Speaker 4: this slate specifically, I mean, Definitely unique in the aspect that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we have one game that has a massive
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  Speaker 4: total sitting at 55-ish, 55 and a half in some
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  Speaker 4: spots and then nothing else really within 10 points. You know,
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  Speaker 4: the Lions Cardinals that game, obviously, and we've seen the
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  Speaker 4: Lions defenses complete in utter dog shit. We've seen that
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  Speaker 4: all season. We were ahead of that. We were talking
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  Speaker 4: about it week one and here we are week five
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  Speaker 4: and it's as bad as ever and everyone's seen it.
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  Speaker 4: Massive ownership in that game all around. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it's really the big talking point, the biggest talking point
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  Speaker 4: of the slate. If you are playing that game, how
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  Speaker 4: do you play it? If you're building other stacks, do
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  Speaker 4: you include a lot of pieces of that game? It's
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  Speaker 4: by far the biggest talking point on this slate. And
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  Speaker 4: it's going to be pretty much every game, every stack
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  Speaker 4: we probably talk about You know, there's going to be
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  Speaker 4: some conversation within that of, you know, what do you
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  Speaker 4: do with that Lions and Cardinals game as well?
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  Speaker 3: It is super important. So we'll talk about it. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, 11 games. So we're kind of windling them
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  Speaker 3: down a little bit. Things are getting spread out.
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  Speaker 4: We have the sun that we have to game this morning,
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  Speaker 4: the Jaguars and Eagles as well.
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  Speaker 3: So, yeah, excited to talk through this one with you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always like a home game for the Jags
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  Speaker 1: over there. And I believe they feel like back-to-back weeks.
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  Speaker 1: They're staying over there to play back-to-back international games. So
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  Speaker 1: they love the Jags over there. Bring you in, man.
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  Speaker 1: I know you have the props, the weather going today.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely going to be some weather conversations. Obviously, I love
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  Speaker 1: how Hoop teed it up there. Almost even when you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about the early games, there is going to be
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  Speaker 1: conversation about that Detroit-Arizona game and how you might be
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  Speaker 1: handling that with some of the stacks or ways that
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  Speaker 1: you're building. But I think we're going to kick it
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  Speaker 1: off with an interesting one when we do get there.
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  Speaker 1: But first up, how you doing, my friend? Another free
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  Speaker 1: money Sunday ahead of us here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, doing great. Every Sunday is a great day over here.
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  Speaker 2: I'm definitely interested. Haven't built yet for the main slate,
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  Speaker 2: as usual. But yeah, what you guys... say about this game,
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  Speaker 2: other possible games. I mean, every single conversation and game
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  Speaker 2: we talk about, all 11 or pretty much 10, we'll
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  Speaker 2: have some sort of lying Cardinals talk. Can this game
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  Speaker 2: match it? Is it low enough owned to play it
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  Speaker 2: with this game? Yada, yada, yada. It's one of the
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  Speaker 2: most unique slates I can remember in a long time.
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  Speaker 2: And truly, I cannot remember a slate like this. And
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  Speaker 2: I've been playing for over a decade for tournaments. There
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  Speaker 2: probably has been, but I truly cannot remember what that
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  Speaker 2: slate was. We play a lot of DFS. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It makes for a lot of fun. I think this
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  Speaker 1: is going to be a good one to go through.
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  Speaker 1: It is a tricky one because of that one game.
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  Speaker 1: But before we get into it, just want to let
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  Speaker 1: you guys know a couple of things. First off over
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  Speaker 1: at ship at nation.com. We're just going to focus on
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  Speaker 1: one thing. If you're not in there by now, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what you're doing. We've had some good conversations
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  Speaker 1: across these shows in the discord, whatever, but ship it games.
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  Speaker 1: now shows $ 50, 000 cash and prizes. If you go to shipitgames.com,
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  Speaker 1: you will see that. All you need to do is
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  Speaker 1: become a member. All access or NFL only, anytime. There
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  Speaker 1: are still spots open in this week's Golden Shipper. And
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  Speaker 1: the reason we bring this up is because we say
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  Speaker 1: it all the time. We're a smaller community. We started
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  Speaker 1: three and a half years ago versus most of the
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  Speaker 1: other sites have been in the space forever that you
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  Speaker 1: follow along with. Nobody is giving away $ 50, 000 right off
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  Speaker 1: the top. But I can promise you the bigger part.
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  Speaker 1: And I told you this before. Shout out to our guy, Sharks.
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  Speaker 1: We say it all the time. No community is even
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  Speaker 1: giving away $ 5, 000. We have a freaking member in our
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  Speaker 1: community shipping $ 40, 000, giving away over 10% of his prize
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  Speaker 1: money back to the community. If that doesn't show what
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  Speaker 1: that word actually means, I don't know what was. But
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  Speaker 1: shout out to Sharks. By the way, back-to-back years. doing
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  Speaker 1: this donation. We edited the graphic for a new avatar
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  Speaker 1: that he's changed to over the past year inside Shippit Nation.
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  Speaker 1: But you can't say enough thanks, gratitude to a guy
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  Speaker 1: like Sharks who's just crushing it out there and getting
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  Speaker 1: the job done and then giving back to everybody. So
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  Speaker 1: the prize pool has been adjusted. There's currently 12 Golden
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  Speaker 1: Shippit ticket holders. There's a bunch more to go up
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  Speaker 1: to 50. The prizes have been adjusted 12,000, 6,000, 3,000.
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  Speaker 1: Now everybody's getting at least 1,200 for the top 10
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  Speaker 1: when it finishes out. So I got to say that.
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  Speaker 1: And then Another guy, just going back to it, this
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  Speaker 1: is another cool story.
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  Speaker 2: B-Wald.
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  Speaker 1: B-Wald took $ 750 last week, turned it into $ 71, 000, and
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  Speaker 1: thanked us that you had the avatar up, showing the love.
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  Speaker 1: We appreciate you, B-Wald. Congrats. Just a huge, life-changing win.
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  Speaker 1: Love to see that. And then he says, you know what?
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  Speaker 1: It only took me $ 750 to win, so let me
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  Speaker 1: give $ 750 back. So this week in the golden shipper,
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  Speaker 1: not only are the people playing in that contest playing
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  Speaker 1: for the three golden ship of tickets, but there's going
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  Speaker 1: to be, what was it? I think it was, um,
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  Speaker 1: four 52 50. No, it was like 400, two 50,
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  Speaker 1: 100 first, second, and third are going to get cash
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  Speaker 1: prizes from B walled on top of winning their golden
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  Speaker 1: ship of tickets and getting into the share ship next week. So, uh,
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you guys. Not sure, you know, who tightly you
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  Speaker 1: guys got anything to add there, but I just think
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  Speaker 1: it's just incredible to see that kind of stuff every
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  Speaker 1: single week. And just all this stuff just blows my
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  Speaker 1: mind when we get to it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, the generosity, the generosity is out of
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  Speaker 2: the charts for sure. So, I mean, no one has
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  Speaker 2: to do that by any means. We don't ask people
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  Speaker 2: when you win to give back that is truly from
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  Speaker 2: their hearts, reaching out what they want to do back
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  Speaker 2: to back years. Yeah. And that's a lot of cheese.
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  Speaker 2: So that shows, I mean, sharks is in the NHL discord.
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  Speaker 2: If anyone, I know it's a niche sport, but, He
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  Speaker 2: grinds and helps the NHL channel all the time. So
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  Speaker 2: shout out to both of you guys. Congrats on huge wins.
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  Speaker 2: I saw another chat earlier. J-Rod, he won 10K last week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he won 10K.
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  Speaker 2: Last week because of the show. We love to see
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  Speaker 2: that stuff. I mean, J-Walkin, when he kept like one
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  Speaker 2: or two lineups in because of the show with I
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  Speaker 2: forget who it was that came through. It's cool stuff. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you're not coming on to the show and we're going
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  Speaker 2: to say, Jameer Gibbs is having 44 DraftKings points or whatever. Like,
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  Speaker 2: we can't see the future. We play a– DFS is
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  Speaker 2: a game. It's not just predicting the future. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you go to the sports betting markets and do that
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  Speaker 2: more so than just the game we play for Daily Fantasy.
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  Speaker 2: So it's really cool. We try to have fun, try
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  Speaker 2: and keep it informative, and it's cool to see stuff
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  Speaker 2: like this. But, yeah, shout-out to B. Walden Sharks. Really
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  Speaker 2: cool stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, Hoop. And then afterwards, we can get
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  Speaker 1: right into these games, but definitely want to give everybody
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  Speaker 1: a shout-out. Yeah, congrats to J-Rod as well. We love
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  Speaker 1: to see that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys said, I mean, it's what we've been
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  Speaker 4: all about from the beginning and just love seeing people
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  Speaker 4: continuing on with the tradition.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, do you do something like this? It's, it's
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  Speaker 3: all about the community, man.
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  Speaker 4: And, you know, building the community and, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: safe spot, I guess, for, for everyone to kind of be.
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  Speaker 3: And, um, that just adds to it. So, uh, congratulations
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  Speaker 3: and thanks.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get into it now. We really appreciate you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, anybody wants to join over Chippin Nation
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  Speaker 1: can definitely do so. We're going to look at the news.
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  Speaker 1: We're starting hoop with the Bengals at the Dolphins on
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  Speaker 1: this slate. We're going to be using our friends over
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  Speaker 1: at DFSOS.com. You guys can use code SHIPIT over there
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  Speaker 1: to get half price and see how the best players
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  Speaker 1: actually play. It also has the news dashboard that we
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  Speaker 1: love using it on this show. And yesterday, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: going to pull it up here. Maybe I'll do by
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  Speaker 1: Higgins to see here. It might have both news. but
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  Speaker 1: Higgins was a full participant practice Friday, still listed as
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  Speaker 1: questionable Jamar chase, same thing. So who, how are you
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  Speaker 1: thinking about this one going in? We are still waiting
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  Speaker 1: on that news. We've got a lot of news this morning,
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  Speaker 1: but I haven't seen that one yet. If anyone has
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  Speaker 1: posted in the, in the chat or whatever, we'll get
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  Speaker 1: into it. But who, how are you, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: you already kind of gave your grand scheme overview. We
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  Speaker 1: know what it is on this slate when we get
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  Speaker 1: to Detroit, Arizona. So I don't need, we don't need
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  Speaker 1: that for this one, but how are you handling this
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  Speaker 1: Bengals dolphins game to kick things off?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm kind of glad we don't, have the news
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  Speaker 4: on this one yet because I don't think it's going
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  Speaker 4: to give people a lot of time to to react
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  Speaker 4: to and it's really it's big for this slate well
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  Speaker 4: we're looking for something we're looking I mean really again
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  Speaker 4: I we're going to harp on this a lot and
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  Speaker 4: I hope it doesn't get annoying but like we're looking
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  Speaker 4: for something that can compete with Detroit or Arizona and
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  Speaker 4: you got an offense in the Bengals projected to score
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  Speaker 4: a lot of points facing this shitty Dolphins team um
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  Speaker 4: like this could be a spot where this team could
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  Speaker 4: compete with that big total, not on the Miami side,
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  Speaker 4: but on the Cincinnati side, we don't have the news here.
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  Speaker 4: It's not going to give people a lot of time
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  Speaker 4: to react. And I can go either way with it.
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  Speaker 4: Like if these guys are out or one of them's out,
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  Speaker 4: it gives Chase Brown a boost, but we already have
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  Speaker 4: a ton of plays at running back. Is it going
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  Speaker 4: to give people enough time to react? Like, let's say
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  Speaker 4: they're both out. Like Chase Brown becomes a phenomenal play.
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  Speaker 4: Can people react to it in time? And, They'll react
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  Speaker 4: to it, but not to the point where it should
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  Speaker 4: be if we had this news all week long. So
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  Speaker 4: I'm waiting on this one. Now, if these guys are in,
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  Speaker 4: I want some burgers. stuff like Burrow is not projecting
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  Speaker 4: well anywhere. He's coming in low on and they're right there.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they got a twenty five team total. If
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  Speaker 4: Chase or if Chase or I think Chase has a
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  Speaker 4: chance to play. To me, it doesn't sound like Higgins
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  Speaker 4: is going to play. So I'm kind of more interested
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  Speaker 4: in the chase stuff. If chase is ruled in, it
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  Speaker 4: was just a concussion. Like, I mean, obviously it's a
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  Speaker 4: big deal. I don't want to say like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to, you know, dumb down the concussion,
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  Speaker 4: but you can get right back to playing after having
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  Speaker 4: a concussion just needs to get cleared. So I have
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  Speaker 4: a ton of interest burrow to chase at low ownership
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  Speaker 4: because people aren't going to be able to react in time.
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  Speaker 4: The total in this game probably comes up if he
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  Speaker 4: does get ruled in. So you're looking at a team
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  Speaker 4: total of, 26. That's right there in the middle of
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  Speaker 4: Detroit and Arizona. Detroit's around 30. Arizona's around 26. You
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  Speaker 4: get an offense that's very capable. So I'm watching the
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  Speaker 4: news on this one, and I'm going to play it
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  Speaker 4: either way. If these pass catchers are ruled in, one
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  Speaker 4: of them's ruled in, I'm going to be overweight on
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  Speaker 4: that pass catcher and Joe Burrow. If they both happen
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  Speaker 4: to be out, we get another cheap wide receiver and
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  Speaker 4: Dante Myers, and then Chase Brown becomes a phenomenal play,
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  Speaker 4: and he's not going to be as owned as he
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  Speaker 4: would have been if we had this news all week.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm waiting on this one. Looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm actually happy that we don't have the news at
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  Speaker 3: this point, so we give people.
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  Speaker 4: Less time to react. And then on the Miami side,
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  Speaker 4: just Malik Washington. I think he's fine. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: you have to play any Dolphins if you are stacking
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  Speaker 4: up the Bengals, but it would definitely just be Malik Washington.
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  Speaker 4: And we have enough cheap plays at wide receiver where
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  Speaker 4: ownership will be in check on him. So I'm looking
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  Speaker 4: forward to this game for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I like what you said. There's a couple of things
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  Speaker 1: about it. You know, besides all the other stuff that
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  Speaker 1: you said was good, the one thing that I thought
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  Speaker 1: really stood out was the team total. It actually started
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  Speaker 1: when everybody thought it was going to be all good
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  Speaker 1: to start the week, kind of, you know, that type
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  Speaker 1: of setup, it started closer to 28. Then it came down.
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  Speaker 1: for the Bengals. But now if it turns around, even
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  Speaker 1: if Higgins is out, I think I still think this
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  Speaker 1: offense can go. Like you said, chase, I laughed. Kevin
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  Speaker 1: in the chat was made a comment on your comment,
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  Speaker 1: just a concussion, rubbed some dirt on it. Like you'll
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  Speaker 1: be all good. But I do think it's, it's fine
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  Speaker 1: to play. We've seen plenty of guys come back from
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  Speaker 1: a concussion and be able to go out and have
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  Speaker 1: a big game. So I think the Jamar chasing, I
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  Speaker 1: do think chase Brown goes with the, how the injuries go. Like,
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  Speaker 1: if both those guys are back somehow, Chase and Higgins,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Chase Brown is as good as if, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: one of them is out. That's why he was getting
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of the targets out of the backfield. I
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  Speaker 1: feel good about that. Gasicki, if there's none of those,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if Higgins is out, still could be a thing, but...
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  Speaker 1: I think the one thing title before I kick it
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  Speaker 1: to you on this game that, you know, we didn't
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  Speaker 1: really talk about in the grand scheme overview because I
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  Speaker 1: bypassed it since who kind of mentioned it already, but
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  Speaker 1: was the big news we did get this morning. That's
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  Speaker 1: still not official yet. And it will be when we
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  Speaker 1: get into the next game to, to talk about it
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  Speaker 1: more even, but it, um, gentee hopeful to play now.
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  Speaker 1: I know we were all waiting on this Mike Washington jr.
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  Speaker 1: News over overnight. I know that sounds weird to say,
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  Speaker 1: but that would have been, um, big for the slate
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  Speaker 1: with a $ 4, 200 running back slotting in, uh, it sounds
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  Speaker 1: like gentee is going to try and give it a
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  Speaker 1: go now. And we'll see what that shakes out like,
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  Speaker 1: but we will know before the slate starts. So there's
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  Speaker 1: still a bunch of stuff to react to here that
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  Speaker 1: makes the slate even more interesting. We obviously got the
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  Speaker 1: Harrison news earlier yesterday with Marv Harrison, the guy that
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  Speaker 1: had the best tweet of the year or post now
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  Speaker 1: on X, I guess, where he said, you know, can't
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  Speaker 1: even get true separation from the Cardinals. That, that was
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  Speaker 1: a winner for sure. Cause it's like crazy, but take
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  Speaker 1: us into your thoughts on the Bengals dolphins game title.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I first wanted to ask Coop, what, uh, was
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  Speaker 2: there a quote or something about T Higgins or like what,
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  Speaker 2: what makes you not expect them to play? I might've
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  Speaker 2: missed something. That's why I'm asking.
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  Speaker 4: No, I just all week, I guess it was just
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  Speaker 4: kind of my assumption that he was going to be out.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what was the, did he practice.
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  Speaker 2: On limit or his full participant on Friday?
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  Speaker 1: And this was the key one here just from last night.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's what I saw. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. It wasn't okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I was just kind of operating under
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  Speaker 3: the assumption that he was, going to.
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  Speaker 4: Be out i guess i mean maybe maybe that's right
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  Speaker 4: in my mind i was always thinking one one would
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  Speaker 4: be in and it was going to be chased the
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  Speaker 4: other was going to be out could be wrong and
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  Speaker 4: it is kind of interesting no news at all it's
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  Speaker 4: the only spot and the nfl news has been you
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  Speaker 4: know the the news has always been out there recently
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  Speaker 4: saturday middle of the night kind of and haven't heard
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: anything so i am curious but i want to play
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: these guys if they're in they're healthy enough and i
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: want to play both so i would be definitely open
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: to playing t if he is in as well but
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: like Tambo said, like if they're both in, that is
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: pretty big hit to, to chase Brown for sure.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: If they're out Jake, Jake's the man, Jake, the takes
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: in here real quick. Like this is, this is right. Yeah.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: Like if somehow we got that news, but to title's point,
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: what he's going through, I think on his side, seeing it,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: if you're getting full practices from these guys and they're
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: not elevating anyone very easily, I was kind of leaning.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: I think like, to Hoops point, if someone was still
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: ruled out, even after that, and they just say, Hey,
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: we're fine with it. Jamar will play. T will sit.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: We've got Myers. We've got these other guys that you
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: mentioned there, Tinsley and Gusecki and all this stuff. Maybe
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: they do that. But as of right now, that is
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: the news that we have on those two guys. We're
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: waiting on it. Go ahead.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: Title.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: And again, we'll get that before a lock. I'm just
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: going based on the assumption that they are, cause they
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: didn't elevate anyone beside the point. It's really three guys
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: for me. We're, I mean, I guess Higgins and chase
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: news would change, but chase Brown for sure. He had
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: 11 targets last game. He's minus 145 to score, and
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: his ownership has to stay in check for sure. I mean,
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: pretty much any game outside of this Lions game is
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: going to stay in check. But 11 targets, he converted
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: on all 11, didn't get in the box last week,
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: minus 145 to score. If he does, that's sitting at
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: 25 DraftKings points. I think Chase Brown is a very
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: good play today at 6,900. The other one, Jamar Chase,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: it's just, I mean, we saw it against the Texans.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: He's going to be about single digit ownership. Anytime he's
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: single digits, he has the upside to score 35 or 40.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: So ways to get different from that Lions game, Gibbs, Amra,
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. You want someone to be able to
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: match the upside or just break the slate. Chase is one.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: So he's just someone I'm going to play at single
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: digits most times. Then the other one's Malik Washington at 4,600.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Ever since A-chan went down, I mean, Malik Washington's Pretty
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: much their guy. He's the gadget guy. He's had two
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: design rushes the past two games. Malik Willis has missed
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: him for, I think, two touchdowns so far this year
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: as well. But 46.5 is his receiving prop. I mean,
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: he's good. He gets open. We've talked about him in
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: showdown stuff for a couple years now. They played on
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Thursday a lot. Yeah, just a shifty guy that Malik
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Willis trusts in a bad offense that they're going to
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: be trailing a lot and having to throw. So I
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: think he's a good value at 4,600. Chase Brown. Jamar Chase,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Malik Washington, the three for me in this one.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: I found the video was that David Chow guy.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: He was a former NFL doctor.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: He had a video out and he said he thought,
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: and this was yesterday, he thought Jamar Chase would play
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: and he thought T.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Higgins would.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: Not play so got you that was yesterday he kind
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: of thought that would be the case that's where i
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: got it from i knew i got it from somewhere
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: i couldn't remember he's got.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: A doctor title it's not it's not a discord doctor
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: it's a real doctor title yeah.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: I know i was gonna make a joke then he
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: said former nfl doctor.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: You're good sources over there i will say just looking
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: at it because again going back to the the grand
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: scheme over like genti hopeful to play Lad isn't expected
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: to play. We'll talk about Trey Harris, et cetera, later. Jefferson,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, that is going to go through a pregame
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: workout before deciding that game sneaky. We're going to get
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: there in two games from now. Dowdle, unlikely. We'll get
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: to that when we get to the Steelers game, talk
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: a little Warren. And then there's some other one. Ramondre
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: was kind of the other one, you know, expected to
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: play because people were looking at. Henderson. There's more news.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying just where it starts for us is
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: kind of that. We'll come back to it if we
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: need to. Last thing I'll say on this game that's disgusting,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: but maybe the D in Dolphins stands for disgusting. We've
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: got Willis, Washington, and by the way, Chris Bell. Maybe
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: you missed it, but that was a big touchdown callback
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: last week. That was an opportunity to go off, but
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: all I'm saying is how many people will have jamar
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: chase lineups with gibbs and whatever else you want to
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: put in it well the way to do that is
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: if you get after this game and hope for a
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: big game from the other side you could have malik
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: willis washington bell jamar chase and then fill it out
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: with whatever you want that that to me is a
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: way that i could see getting a little bit different
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: on this slate if you want to take some risk
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: uh in your lineups and then still figure out what
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: you're doing with the detroit arizona game to go with
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: it all right Hoop, I'll go back to you, man.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Raiders at the Patriots. We talked about it before. The
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: gentee hopeful to play news. Ramondre likely to play now.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: So the running back situation in this game could have
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: been totally different. But now it seems like it will
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: be gentee in and people have to make a decision
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: at that point.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, definitely changes the slate a little bit.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, you got not only like we have cheap
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: running backs, you know, Mike Washington and Coming in at 4,200
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: is another tier of cheap, and that changes roster construction
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: quite a bit with him being kind of off the
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: board for us, assuming that Jenty's in. The news definitely
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: shifted yesterday more in favor of Jenty being in. So
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: another piece of news we'll have to wait on. Really,
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: we haven't had like a new slate in a while.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, a lot of this stuff's been decided. There's
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: three or four pieces that are somewhat slate changing today.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: So it's going to be definitely important. to follow the
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: news and make sure to tune into the next show.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: They'll have it covered for you with inactives and everything.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, it definitely makes it more difficult.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: I don't really want to be on gentee banged up
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: in this spot on the road as an underdog. So
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: that kind of wipes both those guys off the board
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: for me. And then it's just really Bowers on the Raiders.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: I think in tournaments, I mean, If you're spending at
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: tight end, like you don't have to have much IQ
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: to understand that it's going to be Trey McBride that
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: everyone's going to and not Brock Bowers. So Bowers becomes
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: a really good contrarian tournament pivot who could easily match
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: the upside of the production of Trey McBride. So Bowers
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: becomes an elite tournament pivot if you're trying to do
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: some things to get off the popular plays in Detroit, Arizona. uh,
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Patriots offense, like, you know, you want to make a
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: case for something, some quarterbacks, some stacks outside of Detroit, Arizona,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: and this isn't going to be it for me. I just,
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: I gotta, I gotta see something a little bit stronger
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: out of this offense before I get in on it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: If it's today, that's fine. We move on to the
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: next slate. Cause I'm not going to have much of
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: it or probably any of the Patriots office. So for me,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: it's just, uh, I guess now it's just Bowers as
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: a contrarian, not contrarian because he's going to get ownership,
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: as a pivot in tournaments to get, like in those
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: chalky lineups that you build and you end up on
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Trey McBride, like find the way maybe to make the
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: pivot to Bowers.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: I don't hate that move.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I absolutely love that move, especially I think that's one
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: of the things that people are going to like try
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: and get away from Brissette completely. It's like, why not
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: just play a nice Brissette lineup or a nice golf
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: lineup and just use Bowers in it instead? Like it
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: just it makes sense. I get why people want to
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: do it with McBride. But we looked at it yesterday.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Blickle had it up and no secret of why. But,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: you know, people are just jamming that combo because it
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: goes together on paper. But you can get there in
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: different ways. Title. This is maybe a good time for, again,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: we skipped some of the other stuff, but the weather factor.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Do you want to just talk through weather a little
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: bit for what you're seeing on this slate and where
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: you might have worries or thoughts? And then we'll get
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: to your thoughts and takes on Raiders at the Patriots.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, I'm copying and pasting, just like cheating
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: back in the day at school. But from Ross, weather stuff.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: And it is only one game he has is the Orange.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: The Browns at the Jets. Not like we really have
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: interest in that game anyway, unless... Buckins wants to slam
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: it to hoop again on another slate, but we'll get
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: there in a bit. Other than that, the only two
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: yellow games. One for two seasons so far. He's one
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: out of how many slates? We're one out of two talking.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: We're one out of two in the games. I don't
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: recommend him every week.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: How many games has he played?
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Probably 15-ish last year and.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Then Yeah, I'm not bullish on him for all those games, though.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: One it worked, one it didn't.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not bullish on him every game. I have
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: shit on him every game. I'm 19 out of 20.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Or no, no, no, I'm going to say I'm 19
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: out of 20 because the one game he went off
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: last year, I was on him.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: So yeah, 19 out of 20-ish.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Fair enough. The only other yellow, so again, orange, browns, jets.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: And orange is kind of when I get scared. Yellow,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I don't really worry about it too much. Colts, Steelers,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: then Giants, Commanders. So that's all I'm seeing in this one.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: He didn't have any weather designation for this game. Did
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: you see something different, Tambo?
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: No, I think this is the time to chime it
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: in now because we'll get to game by game. We
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: get there, but people aren't thinking about it as much
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: until you get to sort of this type of setup.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I'll let you go into the game now itself.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually going to be on this Patriots stack.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: It's going to be really low on because you can
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: surround it with– I mean, with Gibbs, with Michael Wilson,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: with McBride, with spend-ups. Because, I mean, Drake May, did
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: he finally find something? Maybe. I'm going to figure it
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: out because Matt Collins is out. He's on the IR,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: so that makes it a lot more condensed. And the
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: price tags around. Romeo Dobbs is 5K. Hunter Henry is 3,700.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Drake May is 6,300. And he finally rushed the ball.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: He rushed eight times last week. Scored 28 DraftKings points.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: And when he gets to ceiling outcomes, as we saw
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: last year, he's being mobile. He's getting out of the pocket.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: And that allows you to just skinny stack them with
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: a Henry, with the Dobbs. You can double stack it
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: as well, but it's pretty cheap. So, yeah, at single
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: digit ownership, I'm definitely going to be in on Drake May, Dobbs,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Hunter Henry. Then on the other side, yeah, you always
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: play Brock Bowers. The dude's a stud. Nothing wrong there.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Michael Mayer, though, at like zero ownership. Man, just watching
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: the Raiders and how Michael feels like every time Michael
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Mayer is chalked, it's because Brock Bowers out and he's
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: too cheap. He stinks. Anytime he's in, he does great.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: And it's because the defense has to focus on Brock
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: and other things so much. He just always leaks out
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: in the flat. I mean, they just can't figure it
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: out because there's so much other stuff going on and
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: eye candy. And Michael Mayer just got paid really big
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: for a tight end to start the year. He's a
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: legit top five tight end maybe, maybe number five. He's
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: overshadowed by Bowers, but they use him. He can get
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: upfield when he catches the ball. No one's going to
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: play him A double tight end is valuable on this slate.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: If you want to jab in stars and scrubs, you're
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: going to need some savings. So outside of Bowers, I'm
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: definitely looking at this game as a cheap stack, cheap
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: pieces to then jam in what I want in that
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: other game at low ownership.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the wordplay on this game is incredible. I've been
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: chomping at the bit because you've got Drake, May. You
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: can run a Dobbs stack, a double stack with Double D,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: DeMario Douglas. Hope that it pops off. Pop Douglas. On
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: the other side, you've got Double T, Trey Tucker with
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Double B, Brock Bowers. This game is insane.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: How long did you say that one in the mirror?
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I just came up with it right now.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: That was good. I know.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: It's crazy, but I will say this, the setup of
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: this game with the, all those guys out for the
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Patriots defense. And I just, I keep, I don't even
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: like hoop set. He's not gonna be low on, but
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I don't think people understand still like Brock Bowers should
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: be $ 9, 000. He can't be because he's at tight end.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I think Blickle said it yesterday. It's JSN for 7K. Like,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: you're getting this guy. Last week, they sold out to
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: stop this guy, and he still got what? 84 yards,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: a touchdown, a bunch of catches. He still had like
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: 25 DraftKings points. There's nobody right now on the Patriots
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: on the other side. So... People may just be like, oh,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: now that Jente's in, got to ignore this spot completely.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Don't need it anymore. But man, you've got a lot
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: of ways that you can go here. I'm not expecting
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs to get two touchdowns every week, but he's
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: also 5K. DeMario Douglas is $ 3, 500. Trey Tucker, if you
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: want it to be a shootout, why not have the
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: guy that could make it into one? So I think
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of savings here in this game, and
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: it's a way that you could see It's one of
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: those ones that we talked about yesterday too. And you
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: guys probably read the articles and saw all the stuff
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: out there with this Detroit, Arizona game being on the,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: on the slate and everyone going crazy over it. there's
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: been plenty of slates like that, where there was still
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: another game that popped off and went for like 67,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: 61 points or something like that. This one is not
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: that it's far behind the lead game that everyone's talking about.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: But if there's a game that could go to 60
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: points and you could see Kirk cousins and Drake may
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: battling back and forth, I could see it here. So
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I do have a little bit of love for this game,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: particularly the may side. And then you got Bowers on
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the other side or Tucker, if you want to really
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: get things to set off. I'll talk more about that
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: later too, but like when you're building your lineups and I'll,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: maybe I'll skip ahead. I'll just do it right now.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: But like Detroit, Arizona, if you actually want it to
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: be a shootout, we should build for it to be
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: a shootout. Like let's get Jamison Williams into some of
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: those lineups. Let's get Tesla into some of those. Let's
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: get some people that can get this thing flying and
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: open it up. Everyone's just wants to play. What's going
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: to be on the ground and catch and fall. You
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: got to open it up for an actual shootout, but
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: hoop anything else to add on this one? I know
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: you started it, but if you got anything else here,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: if not, you can take us into the Vikings at
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: the saints.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think title talked me into some Patriots.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: I always talk about that's why I love doing the show.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: If I wasn't doing the show, I'd be watching the
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: show because I like to come in as open-minded as
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: can be and didn't like it at first, but I
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: think it makes sense. I mean, you look good last week, finally,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: and maybe it's a little lack of preseason hangover for
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: some of these offenses. You see it all the time.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: It's cheap, and it's a little more consolidated, and you
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: can get really whatever you want You know, if you
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: pair them with.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Dobbs or Douglas or.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Hunter Henry after that, the world's wide open because it's
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: it's cheap. So definitely switch my opinion on that one.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: I will have some Patriots in my 150.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: What's the next game?
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: It's the Vikings at the Saints. We talked about it
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: earlier with the news on Jefferson. He's going to give
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: it a go before the game starts up. It looks
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: like Camaro will go. So I think that's the news
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: on that one. Was there anything on Addison we were
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: waiting on, too?
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Both of them are game time decisions, supposedly.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: So we'll see.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's working out before the game as well.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're both working out. So this is another spot. Yeah.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: So like this wide receiver position, you know, a lot
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: of news.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: We're kind of waiting on.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, this Vikings defense is really good and their
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: offense is really bad. I mean, if Jefferson plays, it
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: probably looks a little bit better, but Kyler Murray, you know,
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: know the story and with me he just sucks as
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: a real life quarterback like he's horrible i mean good
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: thing he has really good defense this year he's gonna
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: you know get bailed out with with a lot of
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: wins but he's bad but you know jefferson being back
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: could help uh a little bit like i want to
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: have some interest here because there's pieces like jefferson's probably
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: going to be pretty low on you have uh aaron
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: jones you got hawkinson who you know kyler murray checked
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: down to a ton last week that was obviously without
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: jeff i mean if those guys are for some some
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: reason ruled out which i think Justin Jefferson comes back
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: and plays today. But if somehow they're ruled out, like T.J.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: Hawkinson climbs a ton. I mean, it was just free
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: fantasy points last week for him. You have pieces on
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: the other side, Alave, Vele, Juwan Johnson. Total here is
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: sitting at 41. I'm just– I'm not going to be
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: on much of this one.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: We'll see.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, if Jefferson is in, I want some, though,
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: for sure. Because, you know, people I don't think are
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: going to be on it as much as they should be.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: These top– I mean– If he is in, I mean,
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: Kyler so bad, you have to imagine you just pepper him.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: And so he's going to have some opportunities. So yeah,
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: pretty much just Jefferson for me here.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Not too much. This, this Vikings defense is very legit
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: and Aaron Jones, sorry, Aaron Jones as well.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: So this was the fun part. I want to get
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: the title's thoughts on this because our Discord is always
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: fun overnight. I woke up this morning, read the late
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: night chat. It's our man, Hebrew Cheetah. Rio is always
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: in there just hitting it up with the crew and
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Sully and Newens and MN Hall and all these guys
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: that were in there. You go collect different folks. And
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: they were talking about this spot. And it was pretty
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: interesting what Rio said because I like it a little
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: bit more. And then it kind of turned me off
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: a little bit. But he said, like, The saints played
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: all the best running backs. So they played, I think
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: it was Derek Henry Gibbs and Bijan. And I, and
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: everyone will say like, yeah, but Brian Robinson jr. Also
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: did it too. But like when you're running it in
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: from the line, once you get there, it could have
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: been Bijan for five. They're playing the best stuff. Do
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: you think this is a good spot for Aaron Jones?
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Or do you take that more into consideration? Just thinking
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: about who they played already. It's only been four weeks.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Let me answer that real quick and then title can
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: take away the game.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: You're playing Jones as a volume-based play because he's getting
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: all the work. I don't think you're playing Jones because
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: you think he's actually a good, productive running back. You're
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: playing him because the 20-plus touchdowns So that's why I
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: would be playing him for volume, not necessarily efficiency. So
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: still on him regardless of that situation.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I like that statement because I did see the numbers
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: on that too. It's like his workload, his share, all that.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: And they did get run on. That's what we're saying
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: right now, King Mana. It's like we're saying... everyone's talking
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: about it from that perspective and it's, they played, they've
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: got run all over every week, but they've also got
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: run all over by the best running backs in the league.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: So that's what people are wondering. And people are saying
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: like Aaron Jones is not Bijan. Again, there's a price
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: factor as well. He's 6,500. Go ahead, title.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, the cool addition we have over here
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: is on the stone is like pace is rushing defense,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: passing defense, all that part of it, which people don't
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: talk about is the pace of saints play at 77%.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: throwing 23 run a in pace, they speed up the game,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: which then allows the other team to have the ball
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: more and more opportunity for fantasy points. And yeah, I
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: agree with Aaron, like Aaron Jones, you think in 2026
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: might be dust, whatever. He's more of an injury concern,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: but 28, 23, 23 touches in his last three games.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, how are you going to pass up on
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: that at 6,500? So yeah, I'm not necessarily as worried.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Do I think the saints are as bad as they've
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: been against the run? Probably not. Do I think they're great?
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Probably not. They're probably somewhere in between, but a pass,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: a guy that can catch the pass or catch the
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: ball to the backfield and going to get the ball
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: that many times I have interest at 6,500 for sure.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Outside of that, man, I think I'm going to play
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: a little Kyler at 5,200. I mean, the dude's 5,200
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: and can run and it can set up a lot
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: of stuff. He's going to be very low owned as
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: a pivot from Bursette. And then when you play them,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: I'll probably just play him with Justin Jefferson, who's probably
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: also going to be single digits. It's hard to click
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: that name, but he's $ 7, 300. Assuming he plays just to
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: bet on talent at low ownership. Kyler to Justin Jefferson,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: skinny stacks. I'm a little interested in Aaron Jones is
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: the best play on paper though. Outside of that, assuming
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Addison and stuff's in, like I can't get to anyone.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: No Saints for me either.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's, man, there's just not a lot.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I guess I like Aaron Jones, Olave. as like a
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: secondary stack, just because I could see that working. I
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: don't think anyone's going to a lobby this week. He's
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: obviously priced up a little bit, but you could see that.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I like, you know, if you're doing it, go Kyler
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: to Jefferson, a lobby, something like that, but don't have
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: as much love for this game as some of the
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: other spots. It's, it's a good one. It's just, you're
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: probably putting it together with skinny stacks or like Kyler, Jefferson,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: a lobby, cut it off. Or just Aaron Jones with
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: the defense is another way you could handle this. You know,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: who talked about earlier. So, I think that's the one
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: that I like the most probably is the most aren't
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: going up to a $ 3, 100 D they're either at like
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: the jets, the commanders going down to one of the cheapies.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's really going up either, but just
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: to note that makes it a little bit different for
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: this slate. I'll stay with you title. We got the
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Browns at the jets. Funny enough, this was one of the,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: there was a game where, I think it was the, no,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: what was it? It was the jets at somebody. Anyway, the,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: the jets are with, it was with Aaron Rogers, Devante Adams,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: and Garrett Wilson, another slate that we had of the
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: seven slates that were like this, where the far and
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: away game was on it. This was a, it was
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: a jets game that broke the slate. And that was
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: what was in the winning lineup. So just crazy how
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: it works. It was a jets Jags. The time that, uh,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Brenton strange was 2,500 and Brian Thomas jr. Was 5,500.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: And they were both super popular. You needed to flip
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: the build and go the other. Some played Mac Jones
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: with it, but you needed the two jets receivers with
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rogers with BTJ and strange. And that's what ended
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: up shipping was during the live final that year. That's what,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: that's why I remember it.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's cool.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Um, Did Shady win that one?
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I think he did.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he was. I think I remember that, too. Yeah,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: as far as this game, man, I a little more
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: interest than I wanted. It's really only around like three pieces.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Both defenses are very much in play. Again, this was
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: the one orange weather situation. And it's the Jets and
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: the freaking Browns. So you can always play defenses against
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: either team. But. As far as skilled position players, I'm
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: going to play Garrett Wilson at 6,600, and I'm going
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: to play Braylon Allen at 5,400. A starting running back
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: at 5,400 is pretty hard to pass up when there's
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: so many studs on this slate. But again, I want
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: to temper my expectations. He got the ball a good
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: amount last week. He just could not find any room
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: to run. And then Garrett Wilson against his Browns team,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: there's just no one else that he's competing with in targets.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: He 13 targets two games ago. It was bad last game,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: but If you can pencil him in for almost 10 targets,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: any receiver at that price at 6,600 with his talent,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I'll have some interest in. And they're applied for 21 points,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: which is a little higher than I expected. So it's
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: really just based on projection, which stems from props and price,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: that I think Braylon Allen and Garrett Wilson are a
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: little interesting. Also, just looking at Braylon Allen, he is
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: getting some ownership. We're showing 19%, 15% for Wilson there.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Maybe Braylon Allen comes up a little bit with Wash,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: now with Jenty probably going to play. So there's another
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: value running back that disappears. And then I think Garrett
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Wilson might go down a little bit. So I don't know.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I'm curious to hear your guys' takes on those two.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: But it's really condensed on that team.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: This is crazy, too. This was a flip we did
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: last year. I'm going to go through some of the
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: other stuff in this game as well. But this is
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: the flip. We did last year. It was Brees Hall
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: and the Jets were popular. And then we flipped it
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: to Judkins and the Browns at, you know, one tenth
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: of the ownership or something is what it was. And
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: it just crushed. Again, you get like a two and
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: a half total and everyone just goes to the one
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: side because they're the favorite or all the work they
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: got or whatever. So I actually think I know who
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: pays Judkins, but we'll get there. in a second. I
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: do want to share this because you brought it up
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: and now I forgot we had it over here. This
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: is actually funny. This was the exact spot. So we,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I did a, it was FFWC Nashville. Shady came second.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: That's what it was. It was Chipotle addict. Want it?
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: It's kind of grainy because I'm not going to play
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: the video on here, but you could see shady was
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: chasing with the big afternoon game. It was Buffalo and Detroit.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Of course, the lions are involved every single time in
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: these spots. It's crazy, but it was Buffalo, Detroit, Chasing
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: down Chipotle addict whose lineup was pretty much done Chipotle
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: addict had the Rogers Adams Wilson Brian Thomas Jr was strange.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: He just filled it out with the three best running
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: backs on the slate you can see chalk chalk chalk,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: and the D that went with James Connor at the time.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: But the other lineup had, like, Allen, Aminrah, Shakir, had
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff going on in that game, just
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: chasing them down and didn't quite get there. But, you know,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: big swing, 1.25 for second, 2.5 for first. It's crazy
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: how that goes. But, Hoop, I'll kick it back to you, man.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: We can go back to this game here, the Jets
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: at home versus the Browns. Your thoughts. And tell us
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: how bad Judkins sucks again.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Got to beat the dead horse. What's it saying?
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Beat the dead horse here? Yeah.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: I like Braylon Allen quite a bit. Good pairing on
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: DraftKings with the defense. Jets defense is pretty cheap. Just
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: getting all the work. It's the same thing. It's like
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: an efficiency play. Do I think Allen's good? Not necessarily.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: Do I think the matchup is good? Not necessarily, but
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: he was out there. Title knows the snap stuff. He's
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: out there, I think, almost every single play. which is
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: pretty rare for a starting running back. So in on
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: him and on Garrett Wilson. And then, uh, you know,
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: I think, uh, Concepcion on the other side is fine
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: at 4,200, but it's about it.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: And, you know, needless to say, zero, zero Buckins for Hoopster.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: What about the stacks though? Like put it, putting in, uh,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: you know, Gino, Braylon Allen, Garrett Wilson, and one of
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: those value receivers on the other side or Judkins. What
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: do you think about that?
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Uh, No, thanks. I'll pass. I'll definitely pass. I guess
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: this is like the one weather game, but it's like
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: these weather games, like.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: The number one thing you need to do if you're
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: going to factor in weather is just look at the
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: total and see if it's moved.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: And this one hasn't moved at all.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: So it's got to be tough sledding for the people
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: like trying to pump NFL weather games every single week
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: because it's very rarely all that impactful.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, the situation is very clear.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: It has to be extreme winds and not just like, 15.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: To 20 mile an hour winds.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: We're talking, it's got to be 30 mile an hour
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: winds before it really even factors in and, you know,
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: just it's going to rain, but that could be an
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: advantage for an offense. Like the defender needs to defend
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: the guy. So don't just automatically see rain and think
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: like this is a weather game or something. It's just not,
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: not the case. So not letting that impact any decisions today, really.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: But Alan Garrett Wilson and the Brown Casey dude on the,
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: on the Browns.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I think the one thing is like the, you know, Casey, Boston,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: both those guys, I kind of like the stack rankings
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: for both these on Chippendation are a little bit interesting
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: for them, but the pace doesn't look great. I guess
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: it can always flip, but if you're trying to get
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: different with this game, it's very condensed, I think, outside
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: of that. Like, I just don't care about too much else.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: I think it's like Deshaun, Boston, Concepcion, or Judkins. And
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: if you're flipping the other side, you put Allen into
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: that one or Wilson. If you flip the other side,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: it's like Geno, Allen, Wilson. Maybe Sadiq. And then again,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: you got your guys on the other side, so probably
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: not worth it, but I'm definitely going to risk it
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: in some, just because I think it's like I said, looking,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: trusting the stuff on the stone and trusting the, uh,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: the stack rankings. I think there's some opportunity there for, um,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: you know, the morning stuff, maybe better on early only
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: two for those. That's another thing we didn't talk about
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: off the top and title. I'll come to you in
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: a second for Colts at the Steelers, but the, uh,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Other things, like somebody said, I think it was our
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: guy Timmy Dubs in the Discord last night. He's like,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: is it crazy for me to just want to play
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: early only and not think about all this bullshit in
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: the afternoon? You definitely can. And if early only goes good,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: maybe you want to dabble and you say, well, I
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: got a lineup I want to throw in the afternoon
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: or something. But you can definitely play early only this week.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: It's a huge slate, right? Eight games in the morning. So,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: you know, you're getting a pretty decent sized slate. to
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: still get different tons of combinations decent prize pools etc
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: etc so no no shame.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: Good prize pools prize pools are strong people need to
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: be doing stuff like that if you don't feel comfortable
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: with your full slate builds like don't be shamed into
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: playing some of these alternate slates because the prize pools
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: are massive for nfl if you're playing another sport like
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: you don't have this opportunity if you're playing the mlb
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: slate you're not going to most likely get the opportunity
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: to have those huge prize pools on the alternate slates.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, definitely, definitely look into that for sure. No
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: shame in that whatsoever.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: The Jaguars, Brian Thomas Jr. got kicked out. B-R-Y-A-N. But
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Jr., the wide receiver, did not.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they housed it. A kick return to start. Nullified
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: by a penalty. A brawl. Midfield. Ejections all over. Of course,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: I was overweight. Jags D. Oh, man.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: This is crazy. All right, I'll let you take it
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: over here, Title. We've got your boy, Aaron Rodgers, at home.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: We just talked about him, and maybe he's no longer
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: on the Jets. We brought up that Chipotle addict thing.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: He's on the Steelers now, but I did mention this
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: with Blickle yesterday. You tell me what you think on it,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: but I don't even think it's just matchups or pairings
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: or anything. I just think he does not care at all. Like,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: he's looking like Blickle, bro. He's looking at the sidelines,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: telling him to go F himself. He's saying, this guy's
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: F'ing sucks. Like, he's just going to– he can call
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: an audible at the line. He can do whatever he wants,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: and I think he will. And that's what's a bit
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: appealing about Aaron Rodgers.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he's been calling audibles from Mike McCarthy
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: of the Dayton back for 12 years. Like those two
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: have had an interesting ride. I mean, yeah. Does he care?
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Who knows? I mean, what I will say is he's
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: got to hang it up. You don't want your whole,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: the prime of your career to be forgotten from these
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: last couple of years. Like we see too many do.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: And you got to stop throwing people under the bus
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: and all that stuff. Take accountability. Sometime it is your fault. Um,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: that's a different rant though, as far as this game,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, Jalen Warren, I'm going to keep playing Jalen
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Warren until Rico's back his usage, just watching him play football.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Like the dude runs so hard to catch passes, good
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: security blanket, everything looks good. Uh, and then after that,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: two other names. Roman Wilson and DK Pittman's on the
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: IR for four weeks. Obviously DK already still solid play 5,400.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I just keep being, I'm overweight on this guy every week.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: It feels 5,400 DK. And like, he's only 10% with
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: wide receiver to gone. Like he just, he hasn't done
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: it yet this year, but I feel like the upside's
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: always there for a guy like that. And again, if
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Rogers doesn't care and all that calls audibles, anytime he
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: sees one safety or someone not over DK, he will
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: take the shot. So definitely in on him. And then, yeah,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Roman Wilson, 3,700. We need value. Without Pittman, him and
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Bernard are going to mix in a lot more. And, yeah,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: what was it, two or three weeks ago, Wilson got benched.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: The game right after on the Thursday night game, they
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: went right back to him, and he out-snapped most of
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: the guys. So I feel comfortable with him. I think Rodgers,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: he's back on his good side. 3,700 allows you to
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: have a lot of spend. So it's gross. I'm not
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: playing the Rodgers stuff, but I'll be overweight, I think, Warren, Wilson,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Metcalf as individual pieces. I don't love playing two of
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: them in the same lineup. I'm not going to make
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: a rule not to. But yeah, at their prices, I
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: think it's fine. So yeah, just the individual skill position players.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Our guy Tyler's crazy.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Good spots here. He says JT smash spot raining all day,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: starting DT out for the Steelers. I think Jonathan Taylor
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: is a great tournament play. Most people aren't going to
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: be able to get to that price tag. He would
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: speed this game up for sure. I know downs fits
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: in there as well. People think that are Warren, but
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I think JT could definitely speed it up. Not sure
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: about the stats result he'll get. I also thought this
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: was a good one. Jeremy Bernard. Yeah. Rogers was talking
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: him up a little when Pittman was out. I think
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: it was week one, maybe can't remember, but yeah, I
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: think Bernard had eight targets himself. These are just really
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: cheap guys that you can go to. And then DK Metcalf,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I just posted it earlier, but they changed his picture
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: to like the DJ Dallas one with the eyes popping.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: And I said, this guy looks ready for $ 5, 400. And
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: the interview this week, they said something about Sauce Gardner.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: He said, who? He said, no, I'm not worried about
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: what DBs are doing. He said, I'm worried about my
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: matchups and winning those. But he has not had– it's
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: a very small sample, so you guys know I don't
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: give a shit, and especially in a wide receiver corner matchup.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: But I'm just noting they did put out the stats,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: and it wasn't good the last time he played Sauce Gardner.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Totally different game.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, Sauce got cooked last week. And, yeah, I
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: think he went five targets for over 100 yards last
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: week on Sauce. Yeah. I never care about that stuff anyway.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Like DK Metcalf said, he's like, I'm going to win
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: my matchup and that's my job. So I'm fine with it.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: You got to be able to catch it. But I
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: will say this, Hoop, before I kick it to you.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: The thing I looked at, I was actually doing a
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: little game.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: I saw the eyes.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: They popped out in the lineup for some reason. I
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: was like, I got to look at this game log quick.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Just five catches last week. And this guy got 20
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: DK points. So five catches, 115, nothing, no touchdown, anything.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: He had nine targets. It's not about that. Again, that's
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: last week. It ain't this week. I'm just saying that's
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: how quick this guy can get you 20 points like that.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: So it's like, we'll see what he does this week.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: But for that price, Roman Wilson, Bernard Rogers, and then
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: the other side, you got a guy like JT or downs, Warren,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: whatever you want to speed it up. This is another
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: game that sits right in that like 45 point hover
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: that could just go back and forth. You never know.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think this is a good game
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: for if you are playing like Detroit, Arizona, right? If
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: you're going to be involved in that game and you're
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: looking for like a secondary stack, I love pairing up
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: pieces from this game.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: And it's, you know, JT. So like if you're going
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: to play.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: The Lions-Cardinals game, you're not going to play Gibbs, right?
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: You're going to just rely on the passing stuff from
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: that game. getting like JT in there, getting guys like
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: Jalen Warren. You could play both of that. You could
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: play them together. But really what I like is JT
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: with DK Metcalf or JT with Roman Wilson, or even
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: three of those guys in that game, because I love
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: the individual pieces here. I'm not playing the quarterbacks. I'm
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: not playing Jones. I'm not playing Rogers, but the individual
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: pieces are real tasty. And that's kind of what a
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: title was getting at. Like Jalen Warren, individually phenomenal play
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: to me, DK Metcalf, individually phenomenal play. I really like
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: Roman Wilson. I mean, these are the sort of guys
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: that Aaron Rodgers loves, these Roman Wilson sort of guys. And,
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: you know, he's been effective and continues to get the
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: attention of Aaron Rodgers, and he's done stuff with it,
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: and Rodgers will go back to guys like that.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: So I like him. The one concern with the Steelers
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: stuff is these random guys.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: Will pop up for touchdowns. Ben Skronic, you know, got
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: a touchdown a couple weeks ago. there's just random dudes
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: involved in this offense. So that is the concern, but
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: we're not all in on this. We're not playing the quarterback.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: So that's fine. Just get it to our guys, get
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: it to DK, get it to Roman Wilson, Jalen Warren.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: So I think the individual pieces here are very strong.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: JT has to be just a very, very strong option.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, the ownership, I don't have it up.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: What are we showing?
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: We have it at 12 and I think it could
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: be lower once we get there.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: I think it could be like eight to 10. I
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: think it's probably like eight to 10%. And, I'm thinking eight,
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: I think probably eight for JT. If you're building a
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: team and you have money for a running back spend,
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: the click is clear as day. Like people are just
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: going to put Jameer Gibbs in there and not think
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: about anything else. JT at what I'm thinking is like 8%.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: You play him at 15 or double the field.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: He has three touchdowns upside. So really like him to it.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying too about some of these. This
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: is going back to what we said the whole conversation.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: We have a Detroit, Arizona way later when we get there.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: But these are the types of spots where you can
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: do– you can play JT and Gibbs together. If you
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: want to wrap it around this game, it's what speeds
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: it up. It gets Aaron Rodgers. It's just thinking a
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: little bit outside the box of a way to do it.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Will it work? We don't know. But you're building it
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: for when it does work, and then what does that
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: mean for the rest of your lineup? That's what most
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: people can't get to. But obviously doing the flip side
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: of that would be later on going to, say, your–
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: golf lineup or your Brissette lineup and not playing Gibbs
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: and using JT instead and something like that. That's another
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: way that you can shape it out a little bit differently.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: So lots of ways to go about it on this slate,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: but I think it's, you know, just an interesting thought
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: that I had there. Uh, Texans at the Titans title.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: I'll go to you here.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Next game for me. I'm sure you can always play
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Nico really the only interest defense on both sides. I'm
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: fine with, but 11 games, make it a 10 game
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: where I don't, I don't want to tout every game
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: or something. I don't, I don't like this one. Yeah.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Tate one-off Collins one-off after that, I don't got too
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: much else. The defense Houston definitely in play. Who, what
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: do you, what do you think of with this one?
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: It's just really tricky to even try and consider or
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: get to with all the other things we've talked about.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm interested in the Texan side. I mean,
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: they're playing the Titans. Like, somebody has to do something.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: So just give me C.J. Stroud, who's looked better this year,
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: and give me Nico Collins, who he just chucks the
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: ball to nonstop and should be relatively low owned and
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: like you don't need to run it back but if
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: you do like i kind of like tate on the
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: other side like 12 targets last week he is questionable
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: so i think he played i don't think it's anything
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: serious uh definitely trending towards playing um 12 targets and
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: i can't imagine that cam ward will go elsewhere and
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: he had nine the week before so you get A
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: low-owned combination.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: Here, Stroud, Collins, Tate.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: And then if you like that Lions-Cardinals game, you can
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: load up there knowing that your main core stack is
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: going to come in pretty low-owned. So, yeah, I'll have.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: Some of that.
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: But, like, I'm not, like, super excited about it. You know,
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: we're looking for other things outside of that game.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: If I'm hand-building, I'd be totally fine playing, like, a
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: Stroud to Nico Collins. And then, you know, work in
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: some other pieces, maybe from Detroit, Arizona. So I like
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: it a little bit.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's how you could do that. I
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: guess on this slate, the way it priced out, I
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: got something to say about Oracle. I don't know if
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: you need Ward in there. You could just play. Hope
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: for the back and forth if you wanted. If I
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: was going to do that, like last week.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: Definitely don't play Ward in that. Hell no. Yeah, no, no, no.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: Do the others.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: You're not gaining much because Strahd's not going to be
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: owned either. So just play the guy that's actually... somewhat
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: legitimate NFL quarterback, not the guy that's probably done by
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: the end of the season.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And, and that on for the thousand bucks more
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: to get Stroud, it's like, you're looking for the, like
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I said last week, it was that that's what helped,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people win a bunch of money.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I know it was the, the Nico Collins lamb Stroud stack.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: It's like, if, if Nico actually has the big game,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: you probably want to attach it. I mean, he's almost 8,000,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: he's 7,500 bucks on this slate. The Cardinal Tate news
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: is there as well. It was experienced some random tightness Thursday,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: but it's good to go. Good to go for week five.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: So we're good on, him and then we'll go to
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: the next game then hoop I'll stay with you we've
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: got Giants at the commanders.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: Uh not a ton here Jake Daniels gonna play and
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: there's some weird quote this morning on Terry McLaurin that
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: he's gonna be in but maybe not all his snaps
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: and they're concerned with the rain or some bullshit like
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: that so makes it really tough to get in on
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: the the commander stuff I will say Antonio Williams, though, 3,800.
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: No Stephon Diggs. I think he's a play, regardless, another
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: cheap wide receiver. We have a lot of cheap wide
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: receivers today. You can throw him into the mix. I mean,
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: what was it? I think he had like eight or
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: something targets last week, I want to say.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: He's involved. Yeah, eight targets. He's been involved all season. Four, three, four, eight.
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: And a lot of that was with Diggs in and
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: McLaurin in. So if McLaurin is... limited even more than,
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: than we think. Like this guy could be wide receiver
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: one here at 3,800. So interested in him. And as
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: they are likely a cheap tight end, I think his
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: ownership probably comes down a little bit. We have some,
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: obviously the tight ends from Detroit, Arizona, and now with
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: the chargers completely decimated Gadsden probably gets bumped up a
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: little bit. So I think likely is a good play
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: and I'm fine with, working in some league neighbors as well,
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: more just one-off stuff. He has big upside and, you know, Winston,
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: we'll get the ball to wide receiver one. So individual
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: pieces here, Antonio Williams, some neighbors, and then likely is
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: where I'm looking here.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you thinking here, Title? I guess, you know,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Sully said it in the chat there. I think he said,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: seems like Jaden Daniels getting overlooked today, you know, back playing,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: ready to go. I said it before, the joke on
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: him is it is week five and, you know, his
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: mom making sure the five stays intact and, you know,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: everything's locked in there. So maybe we do see a
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: big Jaden Daniels week, but you can put him with Williams.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: And just skip over. We just, I had the McLaurin
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: news up on the screen for a second, but it
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: says expected to have snaps limited. If he plays in
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: week five, I think he kind of, if I'm doing,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: I'm just taking a shot and going with, you know,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Daniel's Williams neighbors, hoping it works out in that build.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: And if it doesn't, we move on because it's really tricky.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Otherwise to try and pinpoint it, is it actually going
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: to be full strength? McLaurin? Is he going to get
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: all the snaps, all this? You can take on the risk.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: I think it's fine if you want to, but for me,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: probably just going with the Williams route. And if it
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: does seem like he's actually limited and, Not going to
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: play many snaps. Trelon Burks is in there too. Again,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: you just get another really cheap setup with Daniels, Williams, Burks, neighbors,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: and put whatever you want in the other positions. Get
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: a solid couple of running backs, a nice tight end,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: and then you get a good flex as well. So
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: give us your thoughts on this game.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not the game for me. Both sides for running back. Like,
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, I wish scat played more. It has been
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: pretty disappointing as usage. commander side with White and Croxy
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Mayer kind of rotation. Who knows what's going on with Terry?
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: My favorite play in this game for sure is Isaiah Likely, 4,300.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, he got injured. Now he's coming back. Are
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: people forgetting the first game, like his target and usage?
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: And now Jameis, when he walked into that game when
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Dark got hurt, he just peppered Likely in the middle
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: of the field. So I think Isaiah Likely, a very
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: good play. And again, I'm interested in double tight end
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: today because it allows you to jam– the Jameer Gibbs
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: of the world, the Amin Raz, the Jefferson, whatever you want.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: So not really a stack for me. We talked like Drake, May,
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Kyler were two so far that I was over on,
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: like Hoops had CJ Stroud, some Bengals stuff. I like
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: the other low-owned stuff I've talked about more than stacking
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: this one. And then, yeah, I'm good with Antonio Williams.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Commander's defense will get ownership, especially on FanDuel. They're only 3,300,
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: so that's something to note as well.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you think for FanDuel, that's the one to
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: go to though? Cause it is the most popular by far.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, the one to go to in cash tournaments, I,
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: there's so much volatility. Like I don't, I don't think
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: you should ever really jam any defense in certain builds. Like, yeah,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: if you're jamming all the chalk around it, probably not
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: the way to go. Maybe likely becomes even more interesting
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: to leverage off it a little bit. If you're already
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: playing Jonathan Taylor, Drake May, Romeo Dobbs, then yeah, sure. Well,
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: you can plug them in that way. So kind of
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: what you're, Lineup says, I'm not going to pretend. It's
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: hard enough to predict players. Predicting defense is even harder.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: I tell you what's easy is predicting the FanDuel cash
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: lineup because I think it just builds itself this week.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: But anyways, that's the way it goes some weeks. Again,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: it's rare, but it's something like this, particularly this week
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: makes it. Really easy to figure out in the way
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: the injuries are shaking out now. So we'll see. But
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: give us your thoughts here then on your favorite team,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: the Packers at home versus the Bears. This is definitely
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: interesting here. And there's seemingly good spots for a lot
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: of guys. It's just how do you see it shaking
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: out yourself?
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. I mean, Bajan dropped back 34 times last week. Like,
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Ben Johnson's willing to just throw the rock and do
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: whatever he thinks is best. So, Nomanungai is obviously good
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: for DeAndre Swift. Like, Swift is definitely a good play
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: on both sides. But ownership's going to be there. And
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: I think that even makes Bajan more appealing to leverage
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: off some Swift. Now, Swift can catch the ball to
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: the backfield. You can play him with him. But I'm
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: going to go back to Bajan, to Luther Burden stuff.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: And I'm still going to say it's Burden. Like, Odunze
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: looked solid last week. I'm not going to go there yet,
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: and I don't hate anyone for doing it. Again, super low-owned,
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: in chalkier stuff. I'm still going to say it's Burden,
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean, Bajan has all the weapons around him.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: He has the best offensive mind in football, in my opinion.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: He's cheap, 4,700. People are going to go Bursette if
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: they want to go there. You even get more of
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: a discount on different roster construction. Leverage off DeAndre Swift.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: It all makes a lot of sense to me. And
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: I'm out on this Packers, man. This line can't block.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: They can't run the football. Is it Kraft? Is it Golden?
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Who knows? This team's the definition of cheeks. Kraft is fine,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: I guess, at 4,700, but I like the Bears side more.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Okay. I like the Packers side more.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: So that's interesting because I think you nailed it with
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: like the DeAndre Swift stuff. I'm looking at that. I
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: think it's a great spot. Menungai out. We've seen it already.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: We know what he's capable of, but I I don't
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: love trying to figure it out on the Packers as much.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: So I have to commit to it. But I do
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: think between golden craft, you know, the double tight end stuff,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: you mentioned it. You can play lineups that have love craft,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: no receivers, and just pick someone from the other side.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. I like burden, but Odunze did get
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: the targets and look pretty good last week. So I
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: think there is ways to stack it, but I almost
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: want to play it for the situation we have on
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: the stone. Like the stones got it labeled. Anybody who's
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: a member over at Shippendation would see it. I'm playing
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: it for that. And if I'm doing that and I'm
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: going to target it, I'm going to actually target it.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: So I'm going in on, you know, some love stacks,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: bring backs. You can have Swift and burden or one
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: of the other, you can mix it up here. So
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: hoping that this is one of the games that pops
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: off a little bit hoop. What's your thoughts on the
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Packers at home versus the bears?
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: The case for it is the totals come up a
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: couple here, and now it's at 47 and a half,
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: so almost approaching 50. We don't have many high totals
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: on the slate, obviously, outside of Detroit, Arizona, so we've
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: got a game where the total has come up a
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: little bit. Packers, it's been painful, and I know Title's
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: probably more annoyed by it than everyone else or the
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: two of us, but it's now– Somewhat consolidated, right? I mean,
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: the problem with the Packers in the years past is
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: you just don't know. They have five wide receivers and
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: it's been tough. Now it's like it's Christian Watson, it's
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: Golden and Tucker Craft. It's those three and they can't
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: run the freaking football. So you got a low on
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: quarterback in love. You got pieces on the other side.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: You got runbacks. You got Swift. You have burden.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: If you believe that Odunze stuff, it's fine. I just
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: struggle with that. Is it Bajan or Bajan?
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: Bajan. Either way. I just, I don't know. It's like
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: past so many times just didn't do anything.
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: And, maybe another week in there. I definitely prefer to
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: go on the Packers side. And then, you know, you
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: have Swift and you have burden as, as the runbacks
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: and just kind of leave it at that.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think I have some interest here now
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: just because this total has come up.
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: Unlike a lot of these other spots, just still hovering
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: in like the low forties. We have one now 47
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: and a half. It's come up the bears, like more
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: of a pace thing too, like where the bears will
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: just continue to throw the ball and push the pace and,
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: Kind of forces their opponents to go a little bit. So, yeah,
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: I think I'm interested here in some of it.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: He's back. He's back.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Well, he was never really there. Like I reminded people
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: last week and they got crushed because of that. But
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: good for him for this game.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: He's back. He's going to start shoving it to people.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: He's too cheap.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: We'll see. What was I going to pull up here?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: There was a good one. Yeah, well, title is on
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: to the brew crew right now. There's bigger and better
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: things to worry about than the pack.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Big game tonight.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Big game. It's going to be good. And then Aaron
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: said this too. Yeah, RIP Mike Ditka. I just saw
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: they'll be wearing the number on the helmet. But yeah,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: the Ben Johnson F the Packers, the Packers in win mode,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: the total coming up, the push of the back and forth.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: I hope this game shoves too. I hope there is
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: some points in this one back and forth. It'll be
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: more exciting. I just love seeing it. when you get
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: a game like that, that's like hoop said, there's not
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: many good games out there. And the other ones that
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: we had to lobby for were tough, right? We're like
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: making cases for certain things and what could work and
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: why this is the one that I actually like to
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: get to go back and forth. So I'm hoping that
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: it does. So we'll move on. We've got a, what
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: do we got here? Three more games. I think we're
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: onto the afternoon, right?
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: We've got Broncos at the chargers title.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: Go ahead.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, Trey Harris looks like a, no Quentin Johnson.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: He looks like a very, very good play at 4,100. Now,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: he will be owned, though. We talked about plenty of
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: pivots in the lower tier as ways to get difference,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: but I still think I'm going to jam Trey Harris
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: quite a bit. As far as anyone else in this game,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: like Gadsden, maybe at 3,600, but not very appealing. I mean,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: it's not good when you think Gadsden's going to be
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: the starting tight end, like in the offseason. Then as
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: it goes on, it's Charlie Kohler, it's David Njoku. And
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: then these guys get injured and you're forced to play Gadsden.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: So I'm a little concerned there. It's kind of just
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: Trey Harris or bust for me. Waddle Sutton. I don't know.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: It's not for me. So yeah, I mean, people are
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: probably wondering like who does title like we started off
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: of a couple of games, Drake may and the Viking
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: stuff is ways to get difference. Obviously we'll talk about
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: this afternoon window, but well, this is one of the
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: games in the afternoon window. This isn't one I like
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: too much. I think the Seattle game's a little better,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: but yeah, it's no secret. I'll be, jamming that uh
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: cardinals lions game and getting different in other places but
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: yeah not my favorite.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Hoop i'll kick it over to you on this one
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: yeah and the bots are out in full effect today
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: man you gotta be doing something right crazy crazy yeah
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: yeah the cat did bring it up too and i
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: think title might have mentioned or i we talked about
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: earlier maybe pre-show but sean payton calling the plays now
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: right he's taking over so i don't know what you
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: think of that but give us your take on this one.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah i don't know what that does i mean we
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: got a 41 and a half total uh the Broncos
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: just continue to be very difficult for DFS purposes.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: I just, nothing really there. Chargers. I don't know.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: I don't love the Trey Harris. I get the Trey
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: Harris play. Like the, all the wide receivers are out.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: I don't even know if that is that necessarily good for,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: for Trey Harris.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: Like it's.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: And they have what I think they're starting. I saw
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: four rookie offensive linemen.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: This could just be a full blown disaster situation.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: So.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: I'm going to have Trey Harris for sure, but I don't,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: I don't love it. Like, I don't, I don't know.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: I just, nothing feels good here. Gadsden, the same thing.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: It's going to just be a total train wreck for
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: the charter. It's been a total train wreck all season.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: It could be even worse of a train wreck today. So, yeah,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't, I don't, don't even love the
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: Trey Harris stuff. He's going to be incredibly popular now
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: because of the situation. And there's other cheap wide receivers. So,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: you know, we have one in the Cardinals game. We have,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: We talked about Antonio Williams for the commanders. There's other slots.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: Even Pop Douglas we talked about. We have a lot
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: of cheap guys we can potentially go to. Trey Harris
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: is going to be super popular. I just think I
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: prefer the other options. We're showing with the ownership, what
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: is it? Probably going to be over 25%, I'm assuming.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have 23%. It probably will be a little bit.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: His receiving prop is over 50 yards. He's going to
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: play every snap.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: No, I get the case for sure. This could end
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: up being just a train wreck situation for the Chargers offense.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: And this could just be it. Like, I kind of
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: just like, I'm kind of like betting the Broncos here today.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: What was the spread? I thought it would move more.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: It's only three and a half. Like, I think the
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: Broncos are a really good play if you're looking to
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: get some action down.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: The Broncos D, 3,200. Nobody's putting there, and that's a
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: really good spot here potentially. Like you said, there's already
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: injuries and everything. Everyone's talking about the injury on the
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: Broncos side in the secondary. Obviously, Sertan is one that
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: we actually give full credit to typically and say, okay,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: this guy is locked down and shut down, but he
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: doesn't have anyone to shut down today. There's no one
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: there to play. It's not being disrespectful to Trey Harris. Great,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: and he's out there, and the price is good, but
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: we got to play our game, which is DFS, and
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: if he's going to be 20% to 25%, I mean,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: if you're trying to unlock his ceiling, you kind of
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: got to stack it up then. If you really want
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: to get that, play him in cash, 4,100 bucks, fair.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: Nobody else there. Makes sense. I think this could be
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: one of those spots, though. We see a couple different things.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: One could be Gadsden that you need. You know, everybody
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: rushes to the cheap wide receiver in the good spot.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: It ends up being the tight end. And by the way,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Kohler is still questionable. I don't think we have the
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: full update there, but we'll wait and see on that.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: But either way, I think Gadsden could be involved. He's 3,600.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: And then... Keaton Mitchell, we, you know, he's a guy
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: at 4,500. He was already cutting in. It was, um,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: you know, Hampton was getting his snap share cut into
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: and Mitchell's getting some checkdowns and catches and things like
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: that too. So it seems like they want to use him.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: I think that's somewhat interesting. And then our guy, um,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: kid lightning winner of a golden ship, a ticket last week.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: And in the share ship this week says spread hasn't
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: moved because of this. And then he also said earlier, thank,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: thank God my prayers would answer. We'll be at the game.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: RJ Harvey day. Hard to get to RJ Harvey, but
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: I will say if you're late swapping and stuff in
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: the afternoon and there's a spot to go, RJ Harvey
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: and the Broncos D or just RJ Harvey could be
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: pretty interesting if the game plays out the way like
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: even Hoop just mentioned. What if it is the Broncos
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: smash spot and they get the job done here? So
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: that could be something you see as well. But anything
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: else on this one title that you want to add
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: after all that? If not, you can take us into
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: the Lions at the Cardinals.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: Nope. And then, yeah, the game that.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: Sorry to cut you off.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: We'll hold.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: There's only two left. We'll go to the 49ers, Seahawks,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: get it out of the way. Because I also think
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: there's late swap Seahawks, 49ers stuff to talk about to
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: then bring it back. And then we'll just close on
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: the game everybody wants to focus on and probably spend
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: a bunch more time there. Sorry to cut you off.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: No, I like that. And we got to have Hoop
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: lead off with that game, the Lions guy. As far
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: as this one, I mean, the first thing I always
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: look at, I see Seattle games, what's JSN's ownership? 15%. okay,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: I want to play JSN at 15%. We already talked
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: about all this value. I'm definitely good with double tight end. Yeah,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, give me all the JSN in the world.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: It wasn't great for him last week, but this should
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: be a competitive game, division game. This Niners defense is
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: not once we once, like we were feared of this
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Niners defense a couple years ago with Fred Warner and
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: all the dogs out there. Not the case anymore. So
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: I think JSN's in for work. A phenomenal game. Emmanuel
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: Wilson's another cheap running back that I'm going to get
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: some interest in. He only played 60% of snaps last week,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: and it's probably going to be something around there. They're
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: going to mix in Helwani, but he's the goal linebacker.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: We're only showing 13%. He's 5,300, allows you to jam
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: in other spend-ups. I think Emmanuel Wilson getting exposure to
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: a 25-team total is pretty good. And on the flip side,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: for the Niners... I think really it's just George Kittle.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: And I really do like George Kittle at 5,200. I mean,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: he has had a great role so far this year,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: getting him the ball in multiple ways, run after the catch.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: It's just tough for me with McCaffrey right now. I mean,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: it's mainly the price tag. Like when you're playing him,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: I personally would rather play Jamar Chase, would rather play JSN,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: would obviously rather play Gibbs. I just think the opportunity
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: cost at the price is too much for me. today,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: going into Seattle as underdogs. Obviously, he can catch a
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: million checkdowns, but I think Seattle's kind of going to
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: be on that. So it's Kittle, which I like a lot.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: It's JSN. It's Emmanuel Wilson. Yeah, I don't know how
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: much Darnold I'm going to play, but I mean, Darnold
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: can go right to JSN. I mean, we just saw
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: two weeks ago win exactly like this. JSN was showing
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: about the same ownership. Darnold was about the same ownership.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: He threw for over 300 and got the job done.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: So I don't hate it. Don't love it. But yeah,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: JSN for sure.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a few different things here. One, Addison News
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: just came out. So Addison, everyone's hoping for the OBJ
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: day now. But you've got Jefferson. We'll wait and see.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: But I'm expecting we'll see Jefferson. So it's going to
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: be interesting now to go back and think about that.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: The other thing I was going to say, we, I
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: missed this one from the Broncos game, just circling back
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: to some of this late swap stuff before hoop takes
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: over the 49 or Seahawks is every Brissette, Michael Wilson lineup.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: can be Bo Nix, Jalen Waddle. It's 100 bucks up,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: 100 bucks down, exact 2v2. So if you're stuck out
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: of the morning and wondering where you can go, does
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: it feel as good? Definitely not, but you're not getting
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: anywhere with Brissette and Wilson at that point. Again, we'll
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: get to more on that in a minute, but that
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: really stems from the Broncos game previously. And then Hoop,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: I'll kick it over to you for 49ers at the Seahawks.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: JSN still popping like crazy, but it seems like people
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: can't get to him, right? It's going to be expensive
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: to get up to 8,800 there. And people need the 9,800
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: for Gibbs as well.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: Well, one other thing, it might even go down more
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: now with Addison ruled out with Jefferson.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: Jefferson's going to, his projection is going to get a
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: big bump and people are going to be looking to
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: go there at a cheaper price. I wouldn't be surprised
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: if you had JSN. He was higher on than I
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: thought last week. And maybe it was just the nature
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: of the slate. and maybe people are into it, but
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: now like with this Detroit and Arizona situation, now Jefferson's
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: probably going to pop a little bit, you.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: Know, 10, 12% maybe on, on JSN.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: Just if you're building a bunch of teams, I mean,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: you'd be a fool not to just include them every,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: every single week.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: He is just phenomenal, phenomenal wide receiver. So like him,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: I like Emmanuel Wilson. I, the Christian McCaffrey stuff. I,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: I wanted to play him, but I just don't think
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: I can get there. I want to make the case.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: Like, he's a guy that we were playing in the
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: previous years for the insane volume, like just the past,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: like they're clearly not going to give them that early
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: on in the season.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: And it's probably right. Like, that's probably the right move.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: Like you don't want to get this guy injured. You're four. No,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: things are good.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: Like they're not going to give him the 30 touches
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: that we have seen in the past and kind of
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: need that from them to play them in fantasy.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: And then you have a tough matchup. So, um, I'm
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: probably just out on him. It's tough, you know, because he's.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: Been a staple every single week that he's healthy and playing.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: But I just don't think I can do it this week.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: The wide receivers for the 49ers, you know, just can't
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: really get there.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: Love Kittle, though.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, people are playing Trey McBride. You know,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: people are going to be playing Sam Laporta. Bauer is
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: going to get some ownership. Kittle has been phenomenal. And really,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, probably almost wide receiver one for this team.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: So I really like Kittle. You could do a little
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: mini here, like Purdy, Kittle, JSN on the other side,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: and maybe get some of those cheaper pieces from the
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: Lions and Cardinals games.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: I don't hate that.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: But, yeah, I'm not going to really be on the
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: CMC stuff. Wilson, fine with him as well. Solid cheap
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: running back. Looked good last week. He actually looked really solid. So, yeah,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: good with those individual pieces. But, yeah, I don't think
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: I'll get to the Darnold stuff or anything like that.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we won't get a true ownership sense. I mean,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: we'll get the ownership sense like you said right now.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: We've got an idea of it, but we won't get
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: the real outcome of it because of the late swap
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: situation on this slate and how it will work out then.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: We'll have to see how those morning running backs do
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: and all the opportunities that people go with in the morning,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: how they actually shake out. But I will say... If
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: JSN's getting all the way there, I'm probably bringing Darnold
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: with him. I actually like the same idea that you
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: had there, Hoop, but I'd probably just do Darnold, JSN, Kittle,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: and then we'll fill it out with the rest there.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: And I don't know how it'll look, but I would
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: like to still try and maybe get Gibbs into that.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: I just think it's going to be tricky. So I'll
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: look at it.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: We'll be.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: hop off but i do think if a 8800 jsn
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: is going to break the slate and get to the
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: house i kind of want to run it with a
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: 5800 darnold who's just 300 bucks more than brissette so
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: it's like i can get a lineup that makes sense
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: and still build it out and i like titles point
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: on Kittle and what you said about McCaffrey. I mean,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: last week they didn't even really have, what was Evans
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: out to and on, they're still not even using the
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: guy as much as they have been. And now you
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: got Evans back in.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: So it's just, there's a lot going on.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: They're four and oh, they're in cruise control. Like what's
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: the incentive to, to push the guy? Like, I just
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: don't think it's going to happen. So I don't know,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: like they will later on in the season, into the playoffs,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: like he has had some injuries. Like they're going to,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: I think continued down this path, probably 15 ish carries and,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: five ish receptions.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah i'm trying to see some of the other swaps
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: our guy go collect through one out there he said
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: uh you could swap reset wilson mcbride to darn old
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: jsn burner and leave the 900 so.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: So what what scenario like so people understand like what
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: scenario would you implement that sort of swap like what
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: would have to happen in the afternoon games for you
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: to make that what would have to happen in the
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: early games for you to make that swap in the afternoon.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a lot of the
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: running backs because pretty much all the lineups that are
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: going to have what we've got. Who did we talk
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: about here? We'll go through it. Aaron Jones, Alan, if
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: people actually play Judkins, Warren in a great injury spot,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: you've got a couple others as well, right? Deandre Swift
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: as well. So I guess to me, it's like, that's
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: what it's going to come down to. I think a
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: lot of people will have two running backs from the
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: morning with Gibbs in their flex, right? That's what I feel.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Like a lot of these lineups are going to set
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: up like, and then they'll have Brissette Wilson McBride or
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: whatever version of that. So if those running backs bust
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: for you in the morning and for everybody else, a
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: lot of people will just hold put on that game
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: and just say, Oh, hopefully I get to a min cash.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: It's just, there's going to be a lot of people
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: that do that. So I would be looking to swap
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: if my running backs, especially if both of them bust
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: in the morning, at least to start off titles, you
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: got more to add.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: No, I think that's, that's a great, I was going
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: to say something similar.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: Okay. Hoop, do you have any more thoughts on, I mean,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: obviously you're playing in these tournaments at the highest level.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Like what, what are your thoughts on the late swap?
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, like, I think like you got like a
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: middling outcome or something early on, like full bus, like
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: you're probably done. Like, you know, no, no matter what,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: you can give yourself a chance to make the swap.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: But if you have like a middling outcomes with, with
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: your lineup and there's some guys that went off that
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: you don't have, then I think that's when you kind
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: of looked at to maybe make those, those sort of swaps.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: Like they did. Okay.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: But not like, not like great. And I know that,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: other things went better in the morning games that I
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: don't have. And then maybe you start to look to
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: make some of those moves in the afternoon.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: It's almost like, you know, then in that case, I think,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: like you said, it's almost like when you're, unless you
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: really have a great morning, it's probably swap.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: It's just, maybe you don't know what you're.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: Swapping to, but unless you really have the ability. And
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: I think that's.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: This Detroit, Arizona game, it's going to be played with everything.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: So whatever goes off in the morning, like those people
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: are going to have Detroit, Arizona. So it's like, you're,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: If you don't have it, that's when you should be.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: And you don't even have to abandon the game. I mean,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: we'll get into it, obviously. But if you have Brissette stuff,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: you know the Brissette stuff is going to be way
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: more popular than the Jared Goff stacks. And there's things
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: to do without just fully abandoning the game, like in
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: terms of swaps and whatnot.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: Agreed i love that point that you made and that's
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: why i think it's important that people think about this
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: when they're out there doing it especially just from a
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: strat like a process perspective too for people out there
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: like you can't always check you can go into optimizer
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: late swap everything etc etc but i think you also
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: should be looking at it from your main builds and
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: being prepared in advance you don't have to know what
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: the late swap is i go sometimes the extra step
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: to make sure i know that too um in bigger
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: tournaments like the mega today things like that i'm going
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: to look ahead but when you got your big expensive lineup,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: so whatever the majority of your money is on, you
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: need to be focused on those to put yourself in
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: the position to actually pay it off and know that like,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: if this went well, I can hold up. If it
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: didn't go well, or it's middling, like hoop said, someone
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: probably has me covered. What tournament am I? How many
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: other teams are there out there? Like, wow, if you
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: don't got it, you should probably move off it and
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: not just, Oh, I'll just leave it and move on
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: to next week. There's ways that you can move it
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: around to at least get yourself some cash to be
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: able to play and free roll next week at that,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: at that same time.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: So, I got one more thing to add on that
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: because I think people like it. So if you're already,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: if you're done for first place or even top five
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: equity at that point, you're playing a min cash game.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: So sometimes you need to pivot and get different to that,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: get to the min cash. But sometimes if like, all right,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: you had four flames, but one snowflake and you know,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: all right, that snowflake was a zero. I can't fully
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: get to the top, but maybe, Hey, you're don't swap
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: off because you're not playing really for the top anymore.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: If you're zero, when you see other people smash, Then
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: you don't got to go too crazy and then cost
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: yourself that min cash equity. You can just play for
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: that game. You're playing a different, the more known, the
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: more information that's known as the slate goes on, then
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: you should be able to know what other lineups are doing.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: What yours is. Can I be in first?
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: I'm playing min cash. Yes, I can be in first.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: I had one kind of dud in middle guy. I
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: can swap off and then I'm playing that game. and
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: your swaps are a little different. So I probably could
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: have worded it way better, but you nailed it.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: And I want to add onto that, not to just
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: keep going, but I think people really struggle with late swap.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: I know they do matter of fact, cause they come
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: to me and talk about it or say like, Hey,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: I can't figure this out. When do I do this?
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: One thing you said that that's critical and it ties
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: into it is also what tournament you're in. If you're
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: in a winner take all live final seat or something
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: like that, you have to be thinking about, I need
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: first or else it's bust. I've seen people make a
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: swap when, you know, fifth place was still incredible money
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: and like you said they had no chance at first
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: anymore but they swapped anyway and what would have finished
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: like fifth or fourth and still been a huge day
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: for them and it's like that was a mistake in
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: like in the reverse because like damn you should have
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: held helpful i thought if there was no chance at
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: first i had to swap it's like yeah but fifth
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: was twenty thousand dollars and you're in for 200 like
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: that you should have held on to get that but
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: again they don't always look at it or know that
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: of it so i think that's important to try and
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: help people understand but In the Discord, we're always talking
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: about this stuff over at Ship It Nation. Take us
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: into this last one, Hoop. We got plenty of time
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: left still from our normal show rate.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: We can stay longer just noting it. But we saved
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: the time for this game. It is the Lions at
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals. You said it. We've been early on this.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: Everyone's caught up now and knows the spot. This game
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: is just extremely owned. Go ahead.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, not to bury the lead, but I just wanted
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: to cover this real quick before we get into the Jefferson.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: is expected to play and I will say just thinking
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: about this now in my head a little bit I
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: am with Addison out Jefferson in I am way more
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: interested in the Kyler Murray stuff like he's got the
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: bailout guys now you got you got Jefferson who you
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: can just chuck it up to and you got a
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: chance TJ Hawkinson dump off you you got a chance
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: and dump off to Aaron Jones like So now I
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: think I like– man, it sucks to say this, but
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: I think I like Kyler a lot more now.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: Let's go, Drake May Kyler. I already liked him, so
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: of course.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: He's 5,200 as a pivot from Merced, and you have
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: the concentration, but he can also run.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and let me be clear. He still sucks as
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: a fucking NFL quarterback. Like that has not changed. But
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: for this week, fantasy-wise, I'm– I think I'm bumping him
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: a little bit. Tambo, what are your thoughts on that?
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: Well, you just sold me hard because I want to
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: add one more thing. All I'm thinking about is the
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: slate dynamics. And it's like you said, this is when
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: people get so caught up in it. You're saying, you know,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: you got to come around on Kyler. So it sucks.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: You know, I never care about who the guys are.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: I just care about the lineups and the builds and
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: the field with no, okay. This is important with no
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: Mike Washington jr. Today anymore. We're not expecting again. We'll
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: wait and see. But if gentee plays, people are not
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: going to have their $ 4, 200 running back to go to.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: which means where do they got to go find their
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: value at wide receiver? When you go with Kyler, I
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: don't know how I'm building a Kyler lineup in something
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: big today without Kyler, JJ and Olave at least. So
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: where I can't just go plug in all the values,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: it's going to be a much more balanced build, but
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: with two wide receivers in that game that look overpriced,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: but I put them into the same game where it
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: matters the most. If they actually go off, how much
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: is it worth to me? Like title always says that's,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: that's a great opportunity right there. I think that we
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: found and I feel good about it and people have
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: a little bit of time to react, but I don't know.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to go crazy. So I
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: do like that quite a bit.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: All right. So for the lions and. Cardinals, obviously the
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: game of the week. This is the spot everyone's going
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: to want to go to. There's no doubt about it.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: Lions defense, I've been talking about it since week one.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: Their secondary is ass, cheeks, butt cheeks. Title has all
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: the sayings for that sort of thing. You can add
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 4: on to it. They're horrible. We knew that coming into
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: the season and it's played out right in front of
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 4: our eyes. They can't stop anyone. They have a three
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: touchdown lead. The other team's making a comeback. If they
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: are playing from behind. The other team can continue on
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: and put up points. As you saw in Buffalo, there's just,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: this defense can't stop anything.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: What about Calvin Shepard? Just interrupt quick.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: Gotta go. I mean, it doesn't matter.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: Did you see what he said?
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: He's an idiot.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: He's like, these were the right calls. Being asked about
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: what was wrong. These were the right calls.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: He can relay that message in his next job interview
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: because he's not lasting through this season.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: There's like, there's no, no way I made the right
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: calls last time. I made the right calls.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: See how that works out for you, buddy. Cause his
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: ass needs to go and we'll see. I mean, if
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: they are horrible today, I bet he gets fired. I mean, just,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: take some accountability. Just say, we can do better. Like I,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: you know, the player, we can play better as a unit.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: Like just a statement like that is just the answer.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: Like you got to be Aaron Rogers.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: One that title said earlier, we got to do better.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: What do you got to do better, Aaron? I got
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: to talk to those coaches about those play calls. Like
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: you can call the audible. You're out there. It's your game.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: You're the captain, the leader, everything. It's just hilarious.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: But yeah, keep going.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: So this is one of those games though, where you
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 4: got to be careful how you play it. Like if
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: you go into this one and play Brissette with Michael
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 4: Wilson and run it back with Jameer Gibbs, you got
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: to beat every other combination on the slate because everyone's
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: going to have that with everything else.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: If you do that Brissette, Trey.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: McBride, Jameer Gibbs on the other side, like same thing,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: you're gonna have to beat everything else on the slate
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: because everyone has that. So You know, this is the
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: spot where we always talk about the over stack is
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: in play. The over stack is going to be more
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: popular than most over stacks. You guys know I love
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: the over stack stuff and I'm going to play it today.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: But what you do outside of that, you got to
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: be careful with because it's going to be just a
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 4: very popular thing. People are going to do it. So
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: if you are over stacking it like I like taking
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: it to the extreme, not just five pieces. Give me
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: six pieces and just hope this is the spot. So
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: I think everything you do in this game, you got
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 4: to take it to the next level because it's just
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: the obvious spot that.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: Everyone's going to go to.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: You know, one interesting situation, though, I think, you know,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: Brissette is going to be way more owned than Jared Goff.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: You know, Goff is the quarterback that has the 30
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: team total. Brissette is the quarterback of the team that
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: has the 24 team total. So that's one situation right
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: there at the quarterback position. You go to running back. Man,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: how tilted will everyone be when it's like Algier scoring.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: Like two touchdowns?
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 4: Because I'm not playing it, but that's how this game
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: does bust. Love for Algier having a big game. Not
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: playable for me for DFS, but man, that's how people
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: get annoyed really quickly.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: Jameer Gibbs, phenomenal play. Everyone's going to be on him.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 4: The pass catchers, Amonra St. Brown, good play, but it's
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 4: going to be owned. Michael Wilson is going to be owned.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: But after that, the pass catchers, the wide receivers, not
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: so much. I think Jamison Williams is a phenomenal, phenomenal
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: play today. He's been horrible, dropped passes. But like his
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: ownership compared to everything else in this game, just it's
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: not adequate enough.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: So I love Jamison Williams. I'm going to include some Tesla.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, not going to be all that owned. I
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: think definitely under 5%. He's got the ability to do
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: some big things. Kendrick Bourne, I just figured, I guess,
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: when Harrison got ruled out that he would just be
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: super popular on the slate. I think people are still
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: hesitant on it because they want to see him do
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: it before they invest in it. I'm going heavy Kendrick
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: Bourne today. I'll make that very clear. Wide receiver two
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: in this game that could potentially shoot out and showing
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: like 10% owned. Give me Kendrick Bourne over Trey Harris
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: all day. I mean, I know the prices aren't exactly similar,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: but I will take the guy in the game that's
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 4: projected to score a ton of points at maybe a
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: third of the ownership. He could end up being like
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 4: 10 and then Harris could potentially get up to 30.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: So love that spot. Laporta, Trey McBride, both phenomenal plays.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: McBride is going to be the guy people go to, though,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: if you're playing a tight end in this game.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: So, you know, the plays.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, but like, how do you do this a
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: little bit differently? Extreme over stack, I think, is clearly
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: in play. Goff over Brissette, if you are going to
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 4: come to this game in your hand building. Jamison Williams,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 4: I think, is a really, really good tournament play.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: Kendrick Bourne and then the tight ends are.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 4: Just the tight ends. They're both really good plays. So
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: this game makes this a very unique slate because the
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: total in this one is about 10 points higher than
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 4: everything else on the slate. The Bears game has come
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: up a little bit like we talked about, but this
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: is just a spot everyone's going to go to. Definitely
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 4: don't come here and do Brissette. Trey McBride and Jameer
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: Gibbs and move on like that. That's definitely doing it wrong.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: I think title you you're in the cash streets. Did
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: the cash game count out every week for us on Fridays?
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: You're playing a bunch of cash games. I think it's
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: pretty easy just to play for set Wilson McBride Gibbs
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: and fill in all the pieces. Cause we've got all
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: the pieces we talked about earlier, whether it's Roman Wilson,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: Trey Harris, Deandre Swift, whatever people end up going to
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: and decide on. That's what I said. It kind of
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: ends up with the six K running backs with the, well,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: not all of the six Ks, but some of them.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: And then it gets you into these cheaper wide receivers
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: that just fill out around this game stack and Not
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: going to work in tournaments very often. If it does,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're chopping it a bunch of ways or
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: you're battling for the perfect outcome, threading the needle on
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: your one guy different or two guys different. And that's
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: just the variance. If it goes that way, great. It
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: could happen. What's your take on this game, especially from
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: a large tournament field perspective, like how people are wanting
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: to build this for?
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm definitely going to be in on
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: plenty of it. So the ones I like, I think,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: to the field, because I have a group. The ones
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: I like, even at ownership, Micah Wilson, of course, should
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: surprise no one. Jameer Gibbs, everything runs through him. Trey McBride, Bursette,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: Aminra Laporta. The ones I don't like, Jamison Williams. I mean,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: his prop is 52.5 receiving yards and plus 185 to score,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: and he's done nothing all year. He's getting ownership because
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: of the game environment, and I get it, but not
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: where I want to be based on props looking at
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: versus ownership. Jeremiah Love, not really getting any ownership, but
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: Algier out-snapped him last week. 47.5 rushing prop. He has
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: minus 110 to score. If you think or have some
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: inside information that he is going to play 70% of
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: the snaps, I think it would be a phenomenal play.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: I just don't see why that would be the case
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: after all this talk And then what I saw last
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: week with, with Algiers. So Jeremiah loves the one I
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: don't like as well. Tisla is the other one where like, man, like,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: so born into slots, it's lost 24 and a half
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: receiving prop. Like he's going to get some ownership just
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: because people want exposure to this game. But I mean,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: if 23 and a half receiving prop on a main slate,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: like usually gets you 0.8% ownership. Now he's going to
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: be 3.5%. I know 3.5, blah, blah, blah. Still. I
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: can't really make a case for someone. imply for that
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: when we have other value on the slate that we've
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: talked about Kendrick Bourne I'm going to get a little
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: bit but then again go and look at the receiving
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: prop which I've talked about 31 and a half Trey
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: Harris is over 50 and a half and again he's
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: getting a lot more ownership but he's shows that he
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: is a much better play on paper Malik Washington I
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: think is a much better play on paper When I
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: play this game, I actually think, I don't see myself,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: I don't think, jamming the over stack as much. I
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: think I see myself maybe going Bursette. You can pick
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: Wilson McBride and then play one, maybe two on the Lions.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: But again, this is where I think my favorite way
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: to approach it is play other stacks or like skinny stacks, Kyler, Drake, Mayer, whatever,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: and then fill it out with the skill position players,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: hoping other offenses get close enough in this game to
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: like the quarterbacks can outscore Bursette or get close enough
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: to the Bursette golfs of the world. They bring a
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: low-owned pass catcher with them, a single-digit own, and then
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: you just jam the chalk around it. So I think
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: that's my favorite way to go about it. Again, it's
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: really hard. I'm playing so many teams today. I don't
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: know how many, but definitely way over 150. I'll have
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: a portfolio. My portfolio will tell a story. Other people though,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: don't always play that many teams. So they want more
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: of a take with it. If I'd have a take again,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: it's to slaw love JMO. I don't love too much born.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: I don't love a lot. I think Wilson Gibbs, McBride,
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: Amin Ra, Laporta, all phenomenal. I like Brissette a lot
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: more than golf, even at higher ownership. It's the 1100
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: goes a long way, but I do think, uh, I'm
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: going to be overweight on some of those other skinny
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: stacks that I talked about and play this game is
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: like a secondary way with the skill position players.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: Slate just got a little crazier too. Cause now we've
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: got chase and T both in $ 6, 900 burrow, stack them
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: up Malik Washington. There's a lot of ways you can
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: go this game, obviously the headliner and you broke it
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: down nice there. I think, you know, the main thing
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: for me is again, I, It's we use the props
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: all the time. I think they're right way more often
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: than not. That's why we love having title on the
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: props and getting those out to you guys. I just
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: don't think if you're rolling into this as the over stack,
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: I don't think we're considering that because it's more of like,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: what would make this pop off? it's probably like, honestly,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: there's a chance that like you need one guy from
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: this game and it's Gibbs or Amin Ra or McBride
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: or something and just breaks it at that position or
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: something along those lines. But there is other spots. We
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: made cases for them. I'm looking at like the secondary
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: stack stuff in this of, you know, Gibbs, Trey McBride,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: everyone will have that, but it's like, most will have
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: an over stack around it. If there was a way
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: to slow it down, It's like McBride can break a
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: onesie position. And if Bowers does nothing, even more likely
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: for that to happen. And you can play two tight ends.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: So you can say, oh, but what about the cheapie
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: gets there? You might still need them in your other
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: stack we just talked about. Gibbs is obviously the, like, look,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: if somebody said to you right now, Gibbs, Amin Ra,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: Michael Wilson, and Trey McBride, you can only pick one.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's anyone in this world that's not picking.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: It's between Gibbs and McBride, first of all. And then
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: it's probably Gibbs that they lean on based on the slate,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: even though there's five or six other running backs. It's
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: just where people are going to end up. So I
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: think you got to think about some other angles here.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: A couple I have, and then we'll see what you
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: guys think. But one is Lions D. They're horrible. Who
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: harped on it the entire season. If you're not going
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: to play, Anything from the other side, you could just
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: land there and play them at $ 3, 000. Another thing I'm
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: thinking about is like just stacking up golf, heavy, no Gibbs, golf, Amin, raw, JMO, Tesla, golf, Amin, raw, JMO, born,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: leave out Wilson, McBride, play love. If you want, don't
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: play love. Love says he's a full go. Um, coaches
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: sound good on him. No one's playing. I mean, 6,100,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: he's right in the same game on the opposite side
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: of Gibbs. So, um, Do I love all these? Not really.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: But do I recognize for this slate they're going to
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: be important and there's ways to think about it that
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: you have to plug those into your thoughts, lineups, concepts,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: things that you're doing?
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: So I don't know what you guys think. I'll kick
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: it back to you, Hoop. But, you know, Goff, Aminra, Jamo, Laporta, Bourne. Okay.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: Like they're all names that people are talking about. Love.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: Like that's a game stack. It's an over stack, but
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: I don't got Gibbs. Don't got Wilson. Don't have McBride.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: I think that'd be scary for a lot of people
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: to have none of those guys, but it could happen.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: And guys, like I said earlier, JMO, Tesla born, who
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: cares what they've done for us lately. We only care
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: about today. And right now I want them. I want
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: them to break the, break the prop, break the slate,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: break the game open and get the game sped up.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: That that's what I'm hoping for.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like the non-Gibbs teams are probably my favorite
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 4: in the large field tournaments because he's just going to
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 4: be a lock and load for a lot of people,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: the first guy they click on. And there's a path
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 4: for him to not be on optimal, even having a
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 4: good game. He has 25 fantasy points from him, probably
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: doesn't land him on optimal.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: So give me guys like JT that we talked about.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: I think it's a perfect example in this situation. Play,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: you know, Jonathan Taylor, DK Metcalf as a little mini
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 4: stack and then load up on the other pieces in
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: this game, however you want to do it. Like, you know,
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: we talked about, you know, title doesn't love Jamo, but
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 4: that's a way to get a little bit different in
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 4: this game.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: Jamison Williams play Laporta over McBride.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 4: Yes, Laporta is going to have ownership, but if people
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 4: are just clicking this game, it's McBride they're clicking before
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 4: they go to Laporta.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: Born.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: If you like the glove stuff, that's fine. I'm not
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 4: going to be in on the Jeremiah love stuff, but
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: that's a way to do this game a little bit different.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: So my favorite large field tournament sort of builds with
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 4: this game is probably no Gibbs and give me guys like,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: you know, JT is the example we keep using. And
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 4: I love that Jonathan Taylor. And then, you know, however
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 4: else you want to do this game. So that's, that's,
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 4: you know, how I'm looking at this, like the non
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 4: Gibbs teams are probably my favorite way in the large
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: field tournaments. And, That's the way that this game, like,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, if this is the
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 4: game you need, I could see it being that.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: Sort of way, that sort of build.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: But, you know, we told you, like, this game was
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: going to be discussed all show long, and I haven't
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: really seen it like Title VII in the opening.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: There really hasn't been a.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 4: Slate like this that I can think of where you
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: have one game that just looks so appealing, and then
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: you're just trying to make the case for other things
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: on the slate.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that you nailed it there. And that's
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: why even that FFWC that I brought up, that was
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: the Buffalo Detroit game in the afternoon that was just
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: like far and away off the charts. It was risky
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: to fade it. All these, the guys that you saw
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: at the top of that live final all had multiple entries.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: So that's where that comes from, right? We'll take some
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: shots here and go off the board. But a lot
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: of people were on that Buffalo Detroit game. This is
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: very similar. Title, do you have any other final thoughts
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: on this game? Just wrapping it up. I'll add one
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: quick before I kick it to you. But like Hoop said,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: Laporta owned.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: One third McBride, Jamison, Jamison Williams owned.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: People are playing them. One third of Michael Wilson. Again,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: how it actually shakes out. We'll see. It could actually
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: be one quarter once you get to the high stakes stuff,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: but from a large field perspective, I would imagine it'll be,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: you know, half to one third of their ownership. And
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: you could say that on a lot of different spots here.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: So it is somewhat interesting from that perspective too, when
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: you are stacking it up where people say, of course
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: the game hit, but I was on all the wrong
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: pieces and it was still pieces of, that were in play,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: but just not enough on ownership. Any final thoughts on
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: this one from you?
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: Man, I just can't believe that DraftKings has the Lions
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: D at 3K and the FanDuel has them at 4,100.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: Like what is DraftKings and FanDuel? And to your point,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're 1% how this game buses. You're lining
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: up telling a story. I'm not hating on the play.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: I just, when you said the Lions defense, I went
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: to look for them and I expected like, 2,400. Oh,
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: they know something, man.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: You know, these sites know it's all rigged. It's all scripted.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: Remember like they tell us on X after like all the,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: everything's against the sports betting world and all this shit,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: but no, it is crazy. Their prices are up to
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: that level. I guess it's just a matter of, uh,
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: like I said, if you, you know, it's not, it
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: doesn't feel great, but it would make sense. And also, um,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: for draft Kings, the lions are a hundred bucks more
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: than the commanders.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: Which, yeah, I just don't know what these sites algorithm
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: made like a, this lion's defense, uh, Like, I don't know,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: but I found that funny, but no, I have nothing
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: more to add. It's, this is the game you're going
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: to have to get right. But again, there's only three
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: games in the afternoon window. So that late swap kind
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: of what we talked about. Are you playing for first
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: place still? Are you playing for top five? Don't switch
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: swap off to get crazy off of this game and
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: sacrifice just because you can't take first, but you can
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: take fourth. Don't be doing all that. But yeah, if
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: you know you're drawn dead and you're trying to play
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: for min cash and you have to get different to
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: get to min cash, That's when you do stuff like that.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: But this is the game.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: Randy Moss Jr.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: But now he's 95 million percent owned instead of 2%
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: like we've had all year. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, yeah,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, still lock and load. I mean, his props insane.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: Like it should be. Yeah.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: The what was the other thing I was just seeing
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: before we wrap this thing up? Will Shipley. Give me
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: a good day. Maybe Will Shipley gets a touchdown overseas.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: That's good for the ship at nation vibes. You get
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: a little shipper going early on title. Any other final
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: thoughts on the entire slate from you or anything else
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: you want to add before we get out of here?
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: Free Money Sunday, 11 games, and go Brew Crew. So
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: a lot of great sporting events in the world right now. So, yeah,
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: good luck to all.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you guys want to get in over at
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: Ship It Nation, you can check it out. The promos
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: are up. If you go to join the nation, you
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: can get in on Ship It Games. $ 50, 000 now to
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: the prize pool. So again, shout out to our guy, Sharks.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: I'll bring it up one more time. It's just insane.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: But a $ 4, 853 donation to Ship It Nation for those
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: Ship It Games is phenomenal. We appreciate you, Sharks. Good
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: luck to you today. Hopefully you win another 40K plus.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: It'll be awesome to see that. Hoop, final thoughts from
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: you before we get.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 4: Out of here.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, good luck to everyone. Let's have a big day.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 4: Let's get those Ship It Nation logos to the top
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 4: of the leaderboard and have some fun today.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: So looking forward to it.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, likewise. Let's have some fun, guys. Let's win. Good
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: day to win a million dollars. I always say that
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: on a Sunday. Hopefully today is the day, if not
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: for me or anybody on this crew here. Hopefully it
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: is for you, for Hoop, for Tidal, for myself, Toe Tag,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: and Tambo. Good luck in your contest today. Let's ship it!