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Post-Draft Discussion for 2025-2026 · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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  Barbara Bound Bound Banger Management Fantasy Hockey
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  podcast. Woo, wow, wow, wow.
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  Wow, Oh my God. I'm too excited for the season
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  to start to even consider imitating you.
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  So you decided to make everybody's ear drums bleed
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  instead? Yeah, literally.
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  I decided to achieve an octave that only Demon Hunters Golden
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  has yet achieved in life. I actually think that song is a
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  true, true banger. I completely missed the
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  reference, so it's fine. What?
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  I'm just here for hockey, if I'm being real.
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  Ally know it cuz Michael recommended it to me.
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  It's a great tune. It's a great tune.
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  All right, back to business, welcoming everyone to Bangor
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  Management, The Fantasy Hockey Podcast with your favorite host
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  Jake, Josh and Kevin, who is excited for the season.
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  Woohoo. Gosh.
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  I was counting down the days and then I drafted and day one
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  happened and now I'm ready for next season.
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  I'm excited. I love my team, I mean.
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  We react or anything. Yeah, dog overreacts to every
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  single piece of news. Like any line.
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  Rushes in practice are a detriment to his mental health.
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  100% one of my guys jumped off P1.
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  I literally feel like I've been shot through the heart.
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  And who's to blame? When I saw your text earlier
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  saying this is the fastest you've given up on a season.
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  We badly one day of the season and Josh is like it's over, my
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  life is over. I had such a bad day yesterday.
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  It's like, anyway, it's all got into it.
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  Yeah, yeah. But on the topic of our teams,
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  today we are going to be doing our draft recap, post draft
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  discussion for this coming fantasy season.
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  Very fun. We're going to dissect each
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  other's teams, talk about our own a little bit.
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  Before we begin, please follow us on Spotify Podcast wherever
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  you get your podcasts. All the socials are in the link
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  tree in the podcast description and we are new to both Discord
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  and TikTok. Definitely join the Discord
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  community, a lot of valuable discussion going on there.
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  Started before season with drafts, but we're going all the
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  way through for this whole season, so looking forward to
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  seeing you guys in the Discord. So let us begin with the 1st 4
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  picks that we made on each of our teams, which is obviously
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  how we decided to build the foundation.
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  Yeah, so we'll start. We'll just to list our first
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  four. I figured we're not going to
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  list our entire team. So that's just a lot of names
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  that are out there, but this is kind of the identity of our
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  team. So I'll start.
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  I had the 9th overall pick out of 14 teams.
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  I started with JT Miller. Second round I went Sidney
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  Crosby, third round I went Most Cider and fourth round I went
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  Tage Thompson. I think definitely important to
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  give context for, you know, our league specifically, like this
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  is our league of record. So if you haven't listened
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  before, and this is maybe the potentially the first episode
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  you're listening to, it's a huge league, 14 teams, 20 rounds deep
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  and we have 15 categories that are in play on a weekly basis.
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  So it's goals, assists, points payments, power play, points,
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  shorthanded points, shots on goal, faceoff wins, hits,
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  blocks, and then the goalies hits, wins, goals against,
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  average saves, save percentage, shutouts.
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  So now with that out of the way, if you see some pics like wow,
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  JT Miller in the first round, he's a winner eligible, gets
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  face off, wins and hits it. It's very valuable for league
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  like hours and also potentially contributing short handed
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  points. So yeah, I mean, Josh, listen,
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  just you start just to say it. Go, go, go ahead, Go ahead.
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  No, I was going to say like some guy like like you know how at
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  the end of the year the the rankings are league specific.
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  So in our league, JT Miller opens another like ranked in the
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  top five. Not last year.
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  But yeah, like top. 10 for that, yeah.
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  So picking him there makes a lot of sense, even though it's less
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  mainstream. Yeah, I mean at #1 my top, I
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  listed my top five choices depending on if anyone dropped
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  my top three choices all got taken unsurprisingly.
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  And so my big choice was between JT and Kaprizov.
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  And I normally would go with a Presov type player to to start
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  my draft because I love like the points upside and the shots.
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  Miller is just usually ranked higher than Kaprizov in our
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  league at the end of the year because of his back cats.
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  And we all kind of believed in the Rangers bounce back despite
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  their terrible start to the season last night.
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  Yeah, it's been one game. It's fine on the plate she
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  loves. But yeah, they play video for
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  sure. So, yeah.
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  So that's why I kind of honestly, the main reason I want
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  JT over Kaprizov is the playoff schedule.
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  That was what if it was the opposite playoff schedule would
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  have the opposite way. But Eller has a 444 in our in
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  our tweets. 2123 has a 333. I just feel like that three
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  extra games could be huge. And we'll see.
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  We'll see what happens. But that's kind of the story of
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  my first pick there. I mean, I love the JT pick.
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  First of all, the playoff schedule.
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  Second of all, like if you go into, you know, Yahoo positional
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  rankings, like there's very few, you know, valuable forwards that
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  are winger eligible that get face off wins if you get one of
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  them, like you can truly be an elite face off win team in in
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  this specific league. And JT is probably arguably the
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  top of that list. Like it's him.
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  It's like Elias Pettersson and a few other guys.
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  So getting JT who also hits face off wins from the right wing
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  position elite playoff schedule. Like it felt like a no brainer
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  pick. You've also got sniped on my car
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  just to put that out there. Like that's the guy you wanted
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  right before. That's why I really wanted he
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  got taken the pic before me and then the my next choice.
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  I also wanted pasta. He got taken the pic before that
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  and I also wanted Brady and he got taken the pic before that.
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  So my my top three all got taken the three picks before me.
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  But none of that is surprising, right?
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  Those would all have been big steals if I could have got.
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  Them but then Crosby and your second round I feel like just
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  matches up perfectly with JT where you get 2 elite faceoff
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  winning guys and start your draft and then cider and Tage
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  like cider is one of the. Best Insider, where my number
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  one choice is at round two and three.
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  I was super excited both of them and people are actually Page was
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  my number five choice at round 3.
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  So to get him at not round four I felt was a bit of a steal.
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  So so I'm very happy with my 2-3 four and my one.
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  Honestly, I was happy with it until last night, but also have
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  to remember that he was injured through training camp.
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  He missed that. He missed the whole training
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  camps off and they have slower starts.
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  So yeah, anyways, I think it's an interesting start to the
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  draft for sure. Definitely not where I think I
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  messed up. I think this is a good for.
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  I like it a lot too, the JT and Cider combo there.
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  Of course I do like Crosby and Tage, but for our league
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  specifically, those two have proved to be super valuable all
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  the time. Don't be discouraged by the
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  first day. It's gonna be fine.
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  And that goes for all the listeners too.
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  I know you're you're all hyped up for Week 1 and then it
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  happens and then it's a huge dud.
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  You have 0 points between your first two round picks playing
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  each other. Crosby didn't get a point right.
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  He did not. You know who did get 2 points
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  though? Brazo.
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  You mean the Goat? Two goals, six shots, four hits.
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  Monster stat line, but yeah, listen.
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  Plain Line 2 with Afghani Malkin breakout season upon us.
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  Alright, let's. Move on.
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  Excellent foundation, though. Yeah, All I wanna say is that
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  what's cool about this is you can do a lot with it, and it
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  really you're not restricted in any way.
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  You can do many things even though you're used to be a good
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  faceoff team, even if you end up punting that by, I don't know,
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  trading me, Crosby. We'll see where things go.
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  Moving on to my first four picks, I went, I had the third
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  overall pick, it went McKinnon. No, McDavid.
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  McKinnon. Yeah, yeah, McDavid, McKinnon.
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  And then I took dry saddle. Second round I went Philip
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  Forsberg. Third I went Macklin Celebrity
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  and 4th I went Seth Jarvis. So here's where I am very happy
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  and here's where I'm less happy. I really, really think it would
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  have been cool to have gone trocheck instead of celebrity.
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  He will be spoken about shortly, but just because of you know,
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  but I I figured my thought process there was, you know,
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  celebrating could get 30 more points than project this year.
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  I wouldn't be shocked. The upside is crazy.
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  The shots we've yeah, exactly. The shots are gonna be amazing.
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  And he's going into his second year where, you know, sophomore
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  slump is a thing. But guys, also the limit.
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  Forsberg is just a stud for our league settings.
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  Dry sidle, I thought was the obvious choice of three, yet I
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  ended up not being a strong faceoff team.
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  So in hindsight, maybe could have been the pick.
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  It could have worked out better for my team.
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  Nonetheless, I'm not, I'm not mad about it.
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  I think I've got a pretty good situation with him.
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  And yeah, just to Jarvis is an interesting one.
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  I wasn't really thinking of it. It was kind of a panic pick.
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  I love that pic. So yeah, it's it could turn out
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  pretty well. I was hoping he'd get a decent
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  look at centre and he's one of the guys immune to the rod curse
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  on that squad. So if he does stay on power play
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  1 all year, which should be a given, but you never know.
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  And if he doesn't know about the as the face off guy on line 2,
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  there's a lot of good stuff that could potentially happen.
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  I think looking at this for I don't have as concrete of an
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  identity, I would say I'm super good points to game.
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  Am I a great bangers team? I kinda ended up consolidating
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  into a good shots and hits team. However, I'm not mad about these
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  first four either. I think early in the draft you
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  honestly, you just wanna you wanna set the foundation for
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  your roster, but that's mostly just going best player
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  available. And I think, yeah, you made a
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  lot of good choices when you were on the clock.
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  And also just having, you know, you just said you didn't end up
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  as a great faceoff wins team. But when you have dry side
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  getting, you know, 10 plus face off wins from the left wing
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  position, like that's always in the cards for you.
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  If you decide to be like you can just, you know, end up going
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  harder on that. Having that flexibility is just
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  very nice. Forsberg it was.
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  I was not surprised when you made the Forsberg pick, but
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  honestly I thought you might go Sabrina in the second and then
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  try to get like a nature in the third.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Martin H Stream.
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  Yeah. It's crazy because he's gonna be
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  proven right this year and he's not even gonna get to benefit.
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  Yeah. Luckily I have like a pretty
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  serious points league I'm in where I grabbed him there.
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  I just I couldn't not happen and I reached on him.
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  I was like there's no way I'm going another trap without him,
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  but he's gonna be so good. And in hindsight that would have
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  been great. The reason I did pick, I didn't
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  go celebrity Round 2 is just that's a simple know your league
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  mates and I knew those two guys were not going to like there
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  were 4 picks in between. He wasn't gonna get chosen
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  there. Yeah, yeah, I like I love this
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  top four. Obviously dry settle nothing to
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  be said there. Like you said, maybe coach would
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  be better for your team, but no one will ever fault you for
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  digging dry idol and I think he's awesome.
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  So no questions there. Especially at #3 is easy pick.
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  Forsberg. I love my only thing with him
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  was the two games in the play in the finals.
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  But like so, so far forward thinking like I feel like it's
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  better to just take the best player available and then figure
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  it out along the way. So he's such an elite player and
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  you kind of think that last year this floor right and so and that
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  was already a really good overall season for him.
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  So so I love that pic. I definitely I would take
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  celebrity over trocheck. I don't know.
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  I don't know how you feel, Kevin, but I.
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  Didn't have the option. I know, but I know Jake, you
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  were saying that you weren't sure if you made the right
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  choice there. Obviously not that based on how
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  my draft went, I'm not looking of making the right choice, but
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  I definitely prefer Sabrina Trocheck.
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  I love that. And Jarvis.
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  I think when Kevin mentioned the cat, he mentioned the
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  shorthanded points. Jarvis is probably top three,
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  top four in the league. I'm thinking Hagel and connect
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  any and and Jarvis are like top three Shorty guys off the top of
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  my head. So I love the drivers pick.
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  He's just a Jack of all trades guy.
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  So I think that's a great top 4. He's a set of all trades.
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  But yeah, I hear, I hear you. Alright, awesome.
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  I I gotta say, I'm excited for Kevin to talk about his four.
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  Alright, so my 4, I had picked number six in this 14 team draft
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  and at six overall, I took Brady Kuchuk, who I have never owned
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  in fantasy. So jealous.
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  It was so close between him and Makar because I thought I was
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  gonna have to decide between Brady and Matthews and Matthews
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  went one pick before me at 5:00. So then I had Brady and Makar
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  and I decided to just go Brady because I thought, you know,
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  listen, it's it's fun. He has a lot of upside and I
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  think it was the right just you think was the right choice.
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  I think Brady could have gone top 4.
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  Yeah, it definitely makes sense because Arley has pimps, don't
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  forget. And the fact that makes Brady
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  even more overpowered because of how?
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  He was #1 on my first round picks, Obviously like I said,
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  they would have to be drops. But I honestly think that if you
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  hadn't taken him, there's a chance he was going to drop to
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  9. Don't know what, who knows what
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  would have happened, but like, yeah, I know this is 100% the
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  right pick. Getting him at six in our in a
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  league like ours is an absolute steal.
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  And then second, I went Artemi Panarin, who is not a Kevin pick
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  at all. Like I have previously been a
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  Panarin hater. I am now converted.
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  I'm not, I would say I'm not as big as fan, but I see the value
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  now. And third round when Vincent
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  Trocheck right after Jakey sniped me on Celebrity Who, I
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  was hoping it would fall. And then fourth round I got Jake
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  Sanderson, who I guess that might sound like a reach for a
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  lot of people, but honestly, I'm just so high on Sanderson.
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  If you've listened to our previous episodes, our signature
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  picks or ice and fire like goals and throws episodes if you
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  haven't already. And we've talked so highly about
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  Jake Sanderson and the potential of this season.
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  And there was also run on defenseman in the top 4 rounds
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  too. Like it's 14 teams deep, right?
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  So a lot of guys want to cement their defensive position.
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  So I didn't feel bad about taking him there at all.
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  I was super happy, he felt to me.
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  Sanderson was definitely the best indie available at that
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  point in the draft. Yeah, yeah.
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  So it was a no. Brain Hudson went one pick after
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  Yeah. Which is probably that the
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  person was probably hoping Sanderson was going to be
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  available for them and then had to take it because the the
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  teardrop are just massive at that point.
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  Yeah, there. I mean afterwards was Yoshi and
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  then Morrissey, but I I think that the distinction is.
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  Is it's a. It's a theoretical.
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  Grounds for that, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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  It's a great top four. I think that both of your first
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  round picks are my favorite first round picks and just
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  because of the way that they're super.
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  Useful. Yeah, but but I I, I it's it's
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  kind of one of those things like I've never I'm not gonna reach
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  on GTA or Brady Chuck over dry side all.
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  But I would have been happiest in the position this year that
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  you guys were to get. Those guys, the position I
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  wanted was exactly where Kevin was.
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  That was it was telling everyone I'm like, I wanna get 6 so I can
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  get Brady. That's.
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  Gonna be 7 or 8 would have been better because I don't think
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  Brady goes 6. If maybe another manager is
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  there potentially, but I don't wanna take that risk.
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  I was happy I got. It yeah, but truth is if you get
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  Panera and it could be like he has scored 115 points in.
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  His 122 years ago. Yeah, if you that, that's Cooch.
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  Basically you're getting cooch -.7 shots, I would say.
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  Yeah, in round two, you're fine. There.
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  There is. You ended up in a really good
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  spot. So that's it.
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  Like what we can get out of this or what you guys can get out of
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  this with your first round picks is awesome.
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  And then going down the list, I mean Trocheck to me is such a
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  steal at #3 so that. That's Would you have taken him
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  over celebrity if we did the draft again?
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  No, but but I can easily, easily say in a month from now it if he
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  stays on power play one, which we're gonna kind of dive into a
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  little bit more soon. But if he does stay on Power
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  Play 1, Trocheck becomes like a monster.
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  I mean, I drafted him there with the expectation that it's gonna
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  be power play too, because that's what he's been for the
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  last few years. But he's just, at least for our
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  league specifically because he gets, yeah, he gets over two
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  shots, over two hits, over 10 faceoff wins.
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  And he also is last year, pretty sure you led the league in
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  shorthanded points, which is a really, I would say unique
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  category for our league because you don't get a lot of volume.
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  So whenever you get one in a week, it's like it can really
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  sway your matchup. So the delete at that too is
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  just nuts. Yeah, and also it's a note that
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  Kevin took his four top 4 picks. He only took players from two
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  teams, which are the Rangers in the Senators.
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  And the Rangers happen to have the best playoff schedule and
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  the Senate coincidence have like the second, the second tier of
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  like they have 11 games, like 3-4, something like that.
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  So 44344. Yeah.
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  So it's no surprise that I'm sure there were a couple of
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  spots where Kevin was choosing between these guys and one other
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  guy and then that kind of flipped the tip the scales in
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  the favor. So that's why it makes a lot of
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  sense. I mean, mine too.
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  My first two picks are both 12 game guys.
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  So, yeah, I know this is a super sick Sanderson.
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  I really, really wanted that was I was targeting Round 5 so I was
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  never going to get him Round 4. We all wanted Sanderson.
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  I think I was really listening to some of our previous
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  episodes, just like while I'm working out, because what else
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  am I going to listen to? And going to workout besides
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  bigger management, the fantasy hockey podcast and we were all
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  talking about Jake Sanderson and how much we want and we were all
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  being like, I guess we'll see you again.
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  So like. Yeah, but I knew that.
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  Well, I mean, at the end of the day, like, I don't think it's a
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  crazy reach or anything like that.
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  No, no, I was targeting him around 5:00, which is literally
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  just around later. So it's just about who was kind
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  of fell in the draft of the right spot.
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  And just so happens, around 4, you were decently late in the
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  round, so it made sense for you. I was early Round 4, so I wasn't
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  gonna. I wasn't gonna.
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  That was better value. Yeah, exactly.
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  Like I wouldn't take Sanderson over to age, but but yeah, no, I
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  think this is a super sick top four.
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  And yeah, should we dive into our favorite players on each
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  person's team? Alright, so I'll start with my
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  team, Josh's team. So I'll start.
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  My favorite player on my team is Mo Slider.
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  I Dixon's brother, as we've mentioned in the past.
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  Yeah. So I literally like round 3.
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  I had like in highlights on my draft, but I'm like round 3
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  Slider, you gotta be able to get him.
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  And I knew that there was a chance that Kevin was gonna go
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  cider around 3. He because we talked about it.
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  We had talked about it and Kevin was like, oh, you know, like how
• 18:27
  defenseman I project going. Like all the good ones are gonna
• 18:29
  be on the main. Good ones are gonna be gone by
• 18:31
  round two. Round three, like maybe I have
• 18:32
  to go Slider. And I was like, I really hope
• 18:34
  you don't because it's my #1 because I was super, super
• 18:37
  excited when he fell to me. He's power play one on last year
• 18:40
  Detroit I think was the 4th ranked power play in the league,
• 18:43
  which obviously like there's room for aggression because
• 18:45
  that's super high and they're not that great of a team, but
• 18:48
  still. And just his bangers are just
• 18:49
  unreal. And he's still a young player
• 18:51
  who, as we've mentioned in the past, you know, he hasn't hit
• 18:53
  his points Platt the ceiling that any of us think So.
• 18:57
  So yeah, I was very, very excited that he came to me and
• 18:59
  the third. He's never missed a game.
• 19:02
  Yeah, that's it. And that's like a decent enough
• 19:04
  sample size. It's three full years of never
• 19:07
  missing a game. Not to mention the fact no 444
• 19:11
  years never missing. Now that's a sample size.
• 19:16
  Bonkers is like it's incredible and how Kevin feels about
• 19:21
  Trocheck being a question mark for power play 1 and still being
• 19:25
  happy having taken him there. I feel the same way.
• 19:27
  Sadder for you. I feel like that's one of those
• 19:30
  things that if Sider stays on power play 1 all year, he's
• 19:32
  ranked top 10. By the end of the year he could
• 19:35
  get 65 if he does get over 60 points was spoken about in
• 19:38
  previous episodes. He's an absolute stud for what
• 19:41
  he covers shots, hits blocks, is amazing, is Pimms are decent
• 19:45
  too, actually. And you know, one thing that we
• 19:48
  don't really, I think him and Sanderson are both kind of
• 19:52
  Bangor management specials, if you will.
• 19:54
  Yeah, Not many people outside of the podcast are necessarily high
• 19:57
  on them, but they will return and they're gonna be amazing on
• 20:00
  value. So he actually was my choice for
• 20:03
  your team too. But you beat me to it.
• 20:04
  So when I get into he's number one.
• 20:08
  But yeah, I really, really wanted him around 4 actually.
• 20:12
  I should have known I wasn't gonna get him.
• 20:13
  He was easily who I was gonna go with.
• 20:15
  I wasn't gonna pick him over celebrity, but.
• 20:17
  I'm very. I'm honestly just happy for.
• 20:20
  You. Yeah, I I also love cider.
• 20:26
  I mean, definitely worth mentioning now, Josh, do you do
• 20:28
  you feel any different about the pig?
• 20:29
  Like knowing now that Axel sending Palika is remaining with
• 20:34
  the Detroit Red Wings, I feel it's just worth mentioning now
• 20:36
  that. For sure.
• 20:38
  I mean. He's made the roster.
• 20:40
  I don't like taking in my first five rounds a guy who's even a
• 20:44
  question for power play one. I want him to be a lock, you
• 20:46
  know. So, I mean, I mean, I'd heard of
• 20:47
  the guy, but I thought this guy. Wasn't nobody expected?
• 20:50
  At this point, yeah. And now everyone's talking.
• 20:52
  He made the roster and he's a power play specialist.
• 20:54
  Logic shows that he should get power play 1.
• 20:56
  And like everyone's comparing it to Lane Hudson last year.
• 20:58
  I don't think it's the same situation.
• 20:59
  I think Lane Hudson was such an obvious going to power play one
• 21:02
  with like Matheson not being that guy.
• 21:04
  But I mean, maybe that's the same.
• 21:05
  Maybe they just decide that side is not that offensive guy.
• 21:08
  I don't know. I think he was if if.
• 21:10
  That was their 17th overall pick in 2023.
• 21:13
  So he's a he's a mid first round pick 2023.
• 21:15
  He's 20 years old and he last year signed a three-year entry
• 21:19
  entry level. Project Look, I'll say if there
• 21:21
  was that question of power play one, there's a chance I might
• 21:24
  have gone someone else over Cider in the third because I
• 21:26
  really hate having those question marks with such early
• 21:29
  picks. But The thing is, it's kind of
• 21:30
  like you said also where at the end of day, even if he's not
• 21:33
  play one, he's going to be an extreme value to the team, my
• 21:35
  team. But but it sucks.
• 21:37
  No, it definitely sucks. I don't want to power play one
• 21:39
  question mark as my number one be on my team.
• 21:42
  I don't wanna get ahead of ourselves, obviously.
• 21:43
  I think it's worth mentioning because everybody is kind of
• 21:45
  going crazy right now that he made the roster and he's
• 21:47
  supposed to be a power play specialist.
• 21:49
  Like I'm going to be honest, I don't know much about him
• 21:51
  besides the fact that like that's supposed to be his role
• 21:53
  and he's young and first round draft pick.
• 21:55
  That's pretty much it. He's going to be starting on P2
• 21:58
  and then we'll see what happens. But I feel like he'll need to be
• 22:00
  like elite to overtake sided because they also just want
• 22:03
  Cider to be elite and. Also, there's the fact that
• 22:06
  Detroit was ranked #4 powerfully last year, right?
• 22:08
  Why would you mess with that? But like that's it.
• 22:10
  So if if they start off strong, I don't see how spider loses it.
• 22:14
  If they struggle a lot, then I could see it.
• 22:16
  So here's the hope. And they're not struggling to
• 22:18
  start the season. Yeah.
• 22:19
  Yeah, there's something about him being an already, though.
• 22:21
  I wouldn't worry. Hudson was a bit of an exception
• 22:25
  because I'd say the parallel here is actually more with Guli.
• 22:29
  Guli they drafted to be like a solid defensive defenseman.
• 22:32
  But Spider, to me, is easily going to get the top crack, and
• 22:36
  I think he's gonna deliver. Yeah, like who's your favorite
• 22:40
  pick on Josh's team? So Sider.
• 22:43
  But my second favorite pick on his team is Alexi Lafreniere.
• 22:48
  This is fun cuz it's super hit or miss, but where you got him
• 22:52
  was the 14th round and 188 of thinking, Yeah.
• 22:57
  And you know, if you actually look at the way our 14th round
• 22:59
  ended up, there were some decently potential studs who
• 23:03
  went there. But he was my favorite pick for
• 23:06
  sure. Maybe Luke Hughes and ice.
• 23:12
  Let's not get into that right now.
• 23:13
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, I can't.
• 23:15
  We can't do this. But, you know, like take a lion,
• 23:19
  a mulkin, whatever. Will Smith.
• 23:23
  In the 14th round of our Dora. Fav also but I'd still take.
• 23:25
  Lots Will Smith. With Laugh, he was supposed to
• 23:29
  be such an elite player and then he had Laviolette as a coach, so
• 23:32
  we never really blossomed into what he could have been.
• 23:34
  With Critter, leaving is a huge opportunity for him and Cooley
• 23:38
  to both succeed, you know, and Sullivan's also been really good
• 23:43
  at getting the most out of young players.
• 23:44
  You know, Gensel and Rust were both up and coming when they
• 23:47
  were on Pittsburgh and look how they turned out.
• 23:49
  Obviously it's iffy situation as to whether or not he's gonna be
• 23:54
  on power play one, but the opportunity costs there, it's
• 23:56
  really not such a big deal like. 14 rounds.
• 23:59
  It takes three big. Yeah, I would have taken them
• 24:02
  over Lining and Mulkin for sure, and Will Smith.
• 24:05
  So the upside there is tremendous and his floor is
• 24:08
  great. His shots hits have been decent
• 24:10
  his whole career and I think they're just gonna get better
• 24:13
  playoff schedule all like check marks now we we've spoken about
• 24:18
  trocheck versus laugh who's gonna be power play wasn't quite
• 24:21
  a bit zip is also a question mark You never know I wouldn't
• 24:25
  read too much into laugh is still not listed there right.
• 24:29
  I know I made the mistake with cider.
• 24:31
  I just. Wanted to make sure.
• 24:32
  Yeah, right now Laugh is Power Play too, but in their first
• 24:35
  game last night, he did get looks at Power Play 1.
• 24:38
  Third period he started on the Power Play 1.
• 24:41
  For sure they're still figuring it out.
• 24:43
  You know, had he been on that power play, maybe they would
• 24:45
  have been to able to crack the impenetrable wall that is Arthur
• 24:48
  Sheila. She loves who if you were
• 24:52
  listening to us in the offseason, we mentioned on our
• 24:54
  top ten top 10 signings of the offseason, he was, I think he
• 24:58
  had just cracked that list to make it top ten and now he's a
• 25:01
  starter for Pittsburgh. So listen, and we also, I just
• 25:05
  want to toot our horn one more time, but we did mention Alexis
• 25:09
  Lafreniere, as you know, a power forward to watch this season and
• 25:13
  a on our top 10 sleeper episode as well where we expected him to
• 25:17
  be able to take this step up if he gets the better deployment.
• 25:20
  And we were all optimistic about that happening.
• 25:22
  So listen, he's already putting up the category coverage after
• 25:25
  just one game. So we'll see.
• 25:26
  And if he gets that one, then it's just a big, big, big
• 25:29
  potential. Yeah, six shots and three hits
• 25:31
  last game. So that's kind.
• 25:32
  Of lame. That's pretty nice.
• 25:34
  Yeah. Good.
• 25:36
  Yeah, especially where you got on the opportunity cost.
• 25:39
  I really like it. So A+ back in that round.
• 25:43
  Alright Josh, my favorite pick on your team, Josh was a
• 25:47
  defenseman that I thought you got really good value on and it
• 25:50
  was Seth Jones of the Florida Panthers.
• 25:53
  Now, I feel like when you were making this cake, you were still
• 25:55
  kind of hesitant on if he's going to be 1 or not.
• 25:57
  Like you had your doubts thing. Everybody kind of had the
• 26:00
  question. But I mean, in my head it was
• 26:01
  always he's better than Eckblad. So he's going to be there.
• 26:04
  They traded for him last season. They they won the Cup.
• 26:06
  Like I think that's Jones the guy now.
• 26:08
  They just keep losing star players that are on that power
• 26:11
  play. So there's so many openings and
• 26:13
  I feel like it's just he's for sure on that power play.
• 26:17
  And Seth Jones has always been a category guy.
• 26:19
  Like he he hits, he blocks not an elite level, but he gets you
• 26:23
  like close to two. He shoots over 2.
• 26:25
  So he's almost like a triple double in the back categories.
• 26:28
  And now he's playing on a power play that's exposed to some top
• 26:31
  end talent. Like, yeah, now they're hurt,
• 26:33
  but there's still other guys that can get the job done.
• 26:35
  I think it was a tremendous pick where you got him in the 10th
• 26:37
  round. I'm really excited about that.
• 26:39
  Obviously I really like the cider pick and the laugh pick as
• 26:42
  well. But I think Jones is is a
• 26:44
  noteworthy because, well, getting a power play like
• 26:46
  quarterback that late in the draft on a team that's strong is
• 26:49
  always good. Yeah, the minutes are going to
• 26:52
  be there too. He is capable of playing a lot
• 26:55
  and more minutes is more production and either shots,
• 26:58
  blocks, hits, whatever it is. He's to me the one who's if they
• 27:05
  do go 1 defenseman at some point on the power play, I yeah, it'll
• 27:09
  be to imagine it's gonna be egg blood.
• 27:11
  They and it's you know, they're not dedicated to egg blood being
• 27:14
  the power play one guy when Monta was there monitor was
• 27:17
  always power play 1. So yeah, I think it's a really
• 27:20
  good pick. The value as meant Kevin
• 27:22
  mentioned is there. 10th round, pick 132.
• 27:25
  Like that's all. That's pretty late for him.
• 27:27
  Yeah, exactly. And right now, the Florida power
• 27:31
  play is a huge question mark because they're missing 2 of
• 27:33
  their best players who happened to also be two of the best
• 27:36
  players in the league. And you know, I just think that
• 27:40
  he's one of those guys that's gonna get an extended look.
• 27:43
  It's not a 100% guarantee, but 95 which is good enough.
• 27:48
  I'm not 0% worried about a SP1 deployment.
• 27:52
  Same. Well, yeah, I was pretty excited
• 27:55
  about that pic, but I definitely, I was following the
• 27:57
  PU onlines the entire training camp in Florida was one of two
• 28:00
  teams that had one of three teams I think that hadn't
• 28:03
  confirmed their power play 1 lines.
• 28:04
  So that's why I was iffy on him. I was honestly, if I was
• 28:08
  confirmed, if he was confirmed P1, I had him more slotted in as
• 28:11
  like an eighth round pick and then so when I saw him in the
• 28:14
  10th round, I was like, alright, I gotta take the chance because
• 28:16
  yeah, he also does the category coverage with potential power
• 28:19
  play on. Obviously the power is gonna be
• 28:20
  worse. Don't have Barkov or ketchup,
• 28:22
  Please check coming back halfway through the year.
• 28:24
  I think it's a you know, these are the few the few good picks
• 28:27
  before we get into all my my disasters.
• 28:29
  But alright, let's move on to our favorite players on Jake's
• 28:33
  team. I feel we need to go through
• 28:35
  these little bit faster. Yeah, OK, so my favorite player
• 28:38
  on Jake's team, surprising absolutely no one case.
• 28:40
  This is the new Gabe Vilardi nickel in the jar.
• 28:42
  For this year because. My way to replace.
• 28:46
  My favorite player on Jake's team is Dylan Holloway.
• 28:50
  I mean, I'm not going to go into too much about why I am obsessed
• 28:53
  with Holloway because I've spoken about it so much on the
• 28:55
  pod. I will say that specifically
• 28:57
  where Jakey got him in the draft is at. 9 throne.
• 29:00
  He got ninth round pick 115. 1:15 That's just disgusting.
• 29:04
  I was gonna take him. He's like.
• 29:06
  More pics. He sniped me super hard.
• 29:08
  But yeah, this is just insane value on Holloway.
• 29:11
  He could be a sixth round value or even higher, you know, I
• 29:14
  mean, I think he should have gone around sixth round and then
• 29:16
  you could bring even higher value than that.
• 29:18
  So getting him in the ninth round is just an absolute master
• 29:20
  class. My one thing that kept me from
• 29:22
  taking him a bit earlier was the playoff schedule.
• 29:24
  But like, it's a 234. You got through the quarter
• 29:26
  finals and then he has a great playoff schedule.
• 29:27
  So it's nothing too bad. And definitely I could be.
• 29:31
  It's possible that I overthink playoff schedules in this draft.
• 29:34
  So, So yeah, no, Holloway is an amazing pick and I'm super
• 29:38
  jealous that you snipe me on him.
• 29:39
  And he were on a call together, by the way, we were doing the
• 29:41
  draft, the three of us, we were on discord.
• 29:43
  And Jakey, not only did he snipe me, but he's like, Josh, you're
• 29:46
  gonna be so mad when I do this. And he, he built up the
• 29:48
  attention. It was me too.
• 29:51
  I knew exactly what he was gonna do but honestly he was thinking
• 29:54
  Halloween someone else and I forget who the other one was but
• 29:56
  it would be just as good of a pic.
• 29:58
  But he sniped me just to hurt my feelings and I'm over it.
• 30:00
  Josh Holly would have gotten taken by me before he got to
• 30:03
  you. So it doesn't doesn't.
• 30:04
  Even yeah, that makes me feel a bit better.
• 30:06
  Yeah, I can't believe he fell so hard and I'm.
• 30:09
  Looking, he didn't really fall. His ADP was even lower than
• 30:13
  that. I guess I look, I got some
• 30:16
  Kowski in the seventh round. I really wanted to kind of
• 30:18
  bolster my banger categories at that point and.
• 30:20
  I can honestly flip those and it's like it makes sense.
• 30:23
  Yeah, exactly. Like, I think Holloway is
• 30:25
  better. And there were other guys, you
• 30:26
  know, Monahan, Batherson, Dobson, Lacombe, Heiskanen,
• 30:32
  Fiala, Landeskog, you know, like these are just guys.
• 30:34
  Under score in the ninth. Wild.
• 30:36
  Yeah, in this. No, he went in the. 7th 7th
• 30:38
  Sorry, yeah. So that's what I'm saying where
• 30:41
  I got him. I can't believe that there are
• 30:42
  other guys Brian Rust went. Yeah, you know what I mean?
• 30:48
  So just to me, I think where I got him is amazing.
• 30:50
  The double double from last year's there, the power play.
• 30:53
  One situation on Saint Louis, to me, does not mean much at all.
• 30:57
  No, it's a split. It's a.
• 30:58
  Split totally A1A1B. I guess whoever plays with
• 31:01
  Thomas the has the chance to do best because he's our best
• 31:04
  player. It's not set in stone at all
• 31:06
  though. It's gonna definitely develop,
• 31:08
  so I'm really excited about him. I mean, we've been talking about
• 31:12
  Dylan Holloway the whole offseason.
• 31:13
  If you've been listening, you know he's one of our guys.
• 31:15
  He is Josh's inter pick after all.
• 31:18
  But the yeah, I think we we mentioned it that, you know, his
• 31:22
  ADP and his rank is, was just so suppressed in these Yahoo drafts
• 31:26
  that if you wanted them on your team, you would have to take
• 31:28
  them ahead of ADP. It just depends how willing you
• 31:30
  are to wait for him to fall. And in our draft, obviously,
• 31:34
  like we all knew about him, so we're kind of competing with
• 31:36
  each other to take him. And Jake getting with the ninth
• 31:38
  round, we were talking about getting him in the 6th and 7th
• 31:41
  round in the offseason. Like that just ended up being
• 31:43
  tremendous value. Yeah, it was kind of just like a
• 31:46
  game of chicken with a lot of a lot of guys, especially because
• 31:48
  the three of us have been talking so much, like more than
• 31:50
  we ever have in the past because of this podcast, right?
• 31:52
  So we've just been sharing our ideas nonstop all summer.
• 31:55
  So there were a bunch of guys that we knew all three of us
• 31:58
  wanted and all three of us were willing to quote UN quote reach
• 32:00
  on above ADP. And it was just like a game of
• 32:02
  chicken, like who's gonna who's gonna bite first?
• 32:04
  But how long can I wait to get these guys out?
• 32:06
  And the Holloway case? Jakey got him, and he got him at
• 32:09
  the perfect time. Alright, so yes, my favorite on
• 32:14
  my team. I would consider him kind of
• 32:17
  like a Vincent Trocheck light. It's one of those guys that I
• 32:19
  always despised playing against, but I'm really excited about
• 32:22
  what he can do this year. Sam Bennett on the Florida
• 32:24
  Panthers, he had an absolute monster playoff.
• 32:26
  So I'm excited to see what he can do this season, especially
• 32:29
  with bar call about now. I don't know if it's gonna
• 32:32
  necessarily work in his favor or against him.
• 32:34
  It means more ice time, but maybe also harder matchups.
• 32:37
  Nevertheless, he got paid quote. Follow that money, as Josh likes
• 32:40
  to say. Yeah, he's just a peripheral
• 32:45
  category stud. I imagine he's stabled on that
• 32:50
  line. One Power play 1 all year and
• 32:53
  it's something that's gonna be really interesting to see.
• 32:56
  All the bark off entry, the bark of entry literally catapulted
• 33:01
  him so 4 rounds higher than he would have gone 4 rounds lower
• 33:05
  and have 4 rounds lower value before that injury because I
• 33:08
  don't think he's power play one if barkoff still.
• 33:10
  Still no, he's gone. So that was actually massive,
• 33:13
  like Sam Bennett and the entry I think happened like 2 days
• 33:15
  before our draft or something like.
• 33:17
  That a lot of people drafted already with barcode just going
• 33:20
  in their second or third. Round, yeah, that's great.
• 33:21
  So deep. Yeah, that's I love this pic.
• 33:25
  This was such an unreal pick. He was so high on my list of who
• 33:29
  I wanted to take. We'll get into more how I regret
• 33:33
  a lot of my picks, but my sixth round pick I should have much
• 33:37
  would have preferred taking Bennett than who I took.
• 33:38
  So 6 rounds, 82 like that's. My main concern, yeah was hit
• 33:44
  was his face offs and last night a small sample size.
• 33:46
  Literally one game he got 10. So yeah, if he's gonna be the
• 33:48
  one see on this team, he's gonna be put in the situation to be on
• 33:50
  the ice to take those face off. So it's not surprising that he
• 33:54
  gets double digits. Yeah, Kevin, in hindsight,
• 33:56
  please let me just make sure before I bring him.
• 33:59
  Up. I know who my sixth round pick
• 34:00
  is, you know. Yeah.
• 34:01
  Would you be happier having taken invented or coolly,
• 34:07
  honestly? You're bent it for me.
• 34:08
  I mean, listen, if you give me one for one, I would rather bend
• 34:12
  it obviously, but I'm, I'm pretty happy with how cool he
• 34:16
  fits into my team. He did.
• 34:18
  David, who won given who I given who I got at centre later in the
• 34:23
  draft. I'm I'm happy with how it fell.
• 34:25
  Well, yeah, we'll get into Cooley later.
• 34:27
  Yeah, alright, Kevin, who's your favorite prank on Jake's team?
• 34:30
  My favorite pick on Jake's team was somebody who he sniped me on
• 34:33
  and it was Mikhail Sergachev of the Utah Mammoth round 8 pick
• 34:41
  110. I, I was drafting consistently
• 34:45
  like 3 picks before or after Jakey.
• 34:48
  And I mean, I picked Dylan Cousins in three picks before
• 34:52
  Jakey picked Sergachev. So I'm pretty happy with that
• 34:56
  obviously. But Sergachev was at the time
• 34:58
  when Jake made the pick, the last I think quote UN quote
• 35:02
  elite power play quarterback that was on on the board.
• 35:06
  And to get him at that, at that price, I thought was just no
• 35:09
  brainer value. One thing with Utah is just the
• 35:12
  playoff schedule, but you'll be thriving throughout the whole
• 35:15
  season while he's on your roster.
• 35:17
  I I really wanted him as my my second defenseman to pair with
• 35:21
  Sanderson then end up happening and I'm I'm not the didn't phase
• 35:26
  me too hard, if I can say so myself.
• 35:27
  But no, I love the pic and I thought it was tremendous value.
• 35:31
  Yeah, it's such a good point on the tear break defence because
• 35:34
  to give you an idea of who got taken, literally 4 picks later
• 35:37
  it was Darnell Nurse. So just to give you an idea of
• 35:40
  like what defensemen like the tier break that was there.
• 35:43
  Yeah, no, it was my pick 7. Honestly, I would have taken him
• 35:48
  round seven over who I ended up taking.
• 35:51
  One pick after was Charlie McAvoy.
• 35:53
  Yeah, yeah. No, I love.
• 35:54
  That one, that one was interesting though, cuz I picked
• 35:57
  Sergachev and then I think it was one of those auto picks like
• 36:00
  yes, Macavoy still there Click yeah.
• 36:03
  So I mean I think McAvoy 2 was tier brick there too because he
• 36:07
  has also the Pimms and the back categories.
• 36:10
  But I mean, Circuit City way more points than McAvoy.
• 36:14
  Yeah, please. Just not good.
• 36:16
  Yeah. Definitely.
• 36:18
  So yeah, I'm pretty happy with the pic there.
• 36:20
  Cool. Let's go to our favorite picks
• 36:23
  on Kevin's team, starting with Josh.
• 36:25
  All right, again, unsurprisingly, my favorite pick
• 36:28
  on Kevin's team was Jake Sanderson in the fourth round.
• 36:31
  Like I said, I was targeting him in the 5th, but I think fourth
• 36:34
  round was the perfect place to take him with how the defensemen
• 36:37
  were falling and getting taken really early in our draft.
• 36:39
  I think he's going to have an unreal year.
• 36:41
  I think first of all, shots and blocks, he's really, really good
• 36:45
  at elite at blocks and just Ottawa and General we all think
• 36:48
  is gonna take a step forward. I don't need to harp on it too
• 36:50
  much because because we've talked about it a lot, but
• 36:53
  Sanderson was such a guy I wanted to leave the draft with.
• 36:56
  And Kevin Knightley. So yeah, good for you, Kevin.
• 37:01
  Thank you. We spoke about it a lot, but
• 37:04
  he's gonna return such great value.
• 37:05
  He has really elite potential, 80 plus point and nobody's
• 37:09
  considering him in the Bouchard conversation, but I think by
• 37:12
  this time next year we. Will and the power play points.
• 37:14
  Yeah, the PowerPoints. Ottawa.
• 37:15
  Ottawa is notorious for getting the most power plays in the
• 37:18
  league. Infamous.
• 37:20
  You've got elite divers. Is it controversial to say that?
• 37:25
  Because obviously we kind of know one of the reasons why they
• 37:27
  get so many power play points is power plays because Stutzel is
• 37:31
  known to be a little bit squishy.
• 37:34
  So, but I just wanna listen. We talked to Anderson so much.
• 37:38
  We have to go too deep into it. But Josh got Cider in the third
• 37:42
  round and Cider was the 5th defenseman off the board in our
• 37:44
  league, which is pretty crazy. Like right before him went
• 37:47
  Werenski and and Dalene, I believe, and Bouchard.
• 37:52
  Bouchard went before Cider, Yeah, so those were the top
• 37:56
  four. And then between Cider and
• 37:58
  Sanderson, the there was 3 defensemen taken.
• 38:01
  Victor Hedman went right after Cider.
• 38:02
  Who? I think I'd rather send us an
• 38:04
  overhead bin and then Adam Fox, who I was considering as hoping
• 38:09
  like you, would fall to me. And then Mackenzie Weinger got
• 38:13
  drafted 2 picks before I took Sanderson.
• 38:14
  So like there was a run that kind of happened there where I
• 38:17
  thought if I don't get Sanders in here, like the next best guy
• 38:20
  is like not worth taking in the fourth round.
• 38:21
  And I really want an elite guy. So I was really happy to.
• 38:24
  Sanderson felt to me there. He has a great pick.
• 38:27
  It's a great one. OK, my favorite pick on Kevin's
• 38:33
  team is Logan Cooley. You have the coolest team in
• 38:37
  the. Yeah.
• 38:39
  I got both of them. Whether it's quietly or cool for
• 38:43
  these years here. Oh my God.
• 38:46
  You don't have to believe that. OK, definitely believe moving on
• 38:51
  Logan Cooley, he can have an absolutely insane offensive year
• 38:55
  and by this time next year, second or third round pick.
• 38:58
  That's kind of where I think that we're gonna be talking
• 39:00
  about him. He has significantly more
• 39:02
  offensive potential than guys who were drafted around him.
• 39:05
  Demidov is the exception, I'd say because you really just
• 39:09
  don't know. Nevertheless, Cooley is
• 39:11
  absolutely awesome. I spoke about him in reaching
• 39:14
  the Jack Hughes potential at some point in his career, maybe
• 39:17
  not this year, but even if he ends up per game to 90 points, I
• 39:20
  think are going to be really happy.
• 39:23
  Yeah, he has a backlight point ceiling.
• 39:26
  Yeah. And honestly, for me, like, the
• 39:27
  biggest reason I think that he dropped to this low is because
• 39:32
  Utah was one of the other three, one of the three teams that
• 39:34
  didn't confirm their power Play 1 units in training camp.
• 39:37
  And so I was seeing a lot of it's cool.
• 39:39
  Gonna be partly 1. Is it going to be Hayton?
• 39:41
  Is it gonna be Peterka? Is gonna be Smaltz?
• 39:43
  So he wasn't confirmed at the time.
• 39:45
  I definitely wouldn't have let him slip that late if if I knew
• 39:48
  that he was probably 1. I still don't think it's
• 39:50
  guaranteed. But for now, he's power play 1.
• 39:53
  And I mean, that's where he should be, but I don't know if
• 39:55
  it's guaranteed the like whole season, but if he has power play
• 39:59
  one, he's a huge steal here. If he's not power, play one,
• 40:01
  he's just a small steel here. But either way, either way, it's
• 40:05
  a great pick. I would I would bet my house
• 40:08
  that he gets the he's the ninth round pick in our league, gets
• 40:12
  the most points by the end of the season.
• 40:15
  Like I'm looking at, he went. I took.
• 40:17
  Him just Demidov. That's the only question mark
• 40:19
  for me, but I would. Bet Cooley gets more points than
• 40:22
  Demodog. Yeah, I, I, I just don't, don't
• 40:24
  bet your actual house on this. In the same realm, Darnell
• 40:27
  Nurse, Neil Pyong, Bullhorn, Duchene Stamkos, Elers like.
• 40:34
  You say 100% it's it's a great pick where you got him and the
• 40:41
  Sky's the limit. I was gonna be very excited to
• 40:43
  watch. Him 3 pics later but since you
• 40:45
  took him that's when I took. Corvette and I was gonna take
• 40:48
  Dylan Holloway and Jackie took him 3 pics earlier so.
• 40:51
  Yeah, so happy with me. It's going on my top 2 choices
• 40:55
  that round. Yeah, I'm happy with my pic
• 40:57
  there, but it's really, really strong.
• 40:59
  It's gonna be great. Cooley.
• 41:01
  OK. Thank Kevin.
• 41:02
  Kevin, my favorite pic on my team, is also surprised no one
• 41:07
  he could have been a signature pick for me.
• 41:09
  To be honest, it is Dylan Cousins of the Ottawa Senators.
• 41:13
  I picked him in round 8 at pick 107 and I'm just super high for
• 41:19
  the link Cousins, if you're in the discord.
• 41:21
  If you're not in the discord, first of all, join it.
• 41:23
  We're talking literally all day long.
• 41:25
  If you're in the Discord, then you know that I've already given
• 41:27
  some advice on how to get Dylan Cousins on your roster and.
• 41:29
  Haven't track of that rostered percentage so that you can flip
• 41:32
  and I'm kidding. He's already, I mean all she's
• 41:35
  not. He's only a 45%.
• 41:37
  Wow. Shocker Eazy disappear scene.
• 41:39
  Yeah, purses are are deep, but Dylan Cousins, there's not many,
• 41:44
  you know, purses out there that have the point ceiling and also
• 41:47
  the banger category coverage. Like after the trade to Ottawa,
• 41:50
  he was, he had, I feel like more often than not over three hits a
• 41:54
  game. He had some games with six,
• 41:55
  eight hits a game. It's just this Ottawa team loves
• 41:58
  to bang and listen, we're Bangor management, so how could I not
• 42:01
  want him on my team? I think he's an elite category
• 42:05
  stuffer and playing on potentially the top five power
• 42:10
  play in the league. I think he has a huge ceiling
• 42:13
  this year. He was my pick that round.
• 42:15
  I took Circuit Chip a few rounds late, a few pics later, but I
• 42:19
  was absolutely gonna go with Cousins.
• 42:20
  You got him in the 8th, which is amazing.
• 42:23
  I got Sam Bennett in the 6th. I don't really see much of a
• 42:26
  difference between them, to be honest, other than the
• 42:28
  deployment. Yeah, he doesn't have as much
• 42:30
  competition, but it. Yeah.
• 42:32
  The what? The Pimm's, I think Bennett has
• 42:34
  a big advantage. Exactly.
• 42:35
  Yeah, Collins is one of the more elite pure CPIM guys as well.
• 42:39
  Yeah. Yeah, no, no shade on Cousins,
• 42:40
  but I do think. He gets more Pimms.
• 42:43
  Yeah, I know where and this is maybe a bit of a reach, but
• 42:48
  we're definitely not considering him in the conversation with
• 42:51
  Stitzel. But lest we forget, the Cousins
• 42:54
  was drafted as a 7th overall pick in 2019.
• 42:58
  He's he's 24 years old. There's no.
• 43:02
  Buffalo got rid of him. It's crazy.
• 43:04
  Absolutely not, but there's no reason for me to say 100% that
• 43:09
  was going to be the guy over him this year.
• 43:12
  I know it seems like that's the case, but I really think the
• 43:14
  ceiling for Cousins tremendous. I think Stutzel will be there,
• 43:17
  but like Cousins gonna be playing with Drake Batherson and
• 43:19
  and David Perron. So like that's honestly like a
• 43:23
  really good second line and he's stabled on that P1 for now, so.
• 43:26
  Yeah, no, I love this pic. In that round I went with my
• 43:29
  first goalie and severely regret it.
• 43:33
  Severely. I usually GO0G and but this time
• 43:36
  I thought the value on the goalie was to was too high here
• 43:39
  in the eighth round. It was Darcy Kemper if anyone's
• 43:42
  wondering. But but yeah, if I hadn't taken
• 43:44
  Kemper, would have taken Cousins there, so.
• 43:46
  You're welcome. Thank you, Josh.
• 43:48
  I appreciate it. So, yeah, so I think we could
• 43:51
  kind of just skim through the next section over here.
• 43:54
  It's basically our best value pick because.
• 43:56
  We've already spoken, we've already mentioned all of them.
• 43:58
  It's all just mentioned. Mine is Seth Jones, got to take
• 44:01
  him round 10 pick 132 but we already discussed him so we have
• 44:05
  to discuss them more. Same, mine was Dylan Holloway
• 44:07
  around 9:00 pick 115. He's a stud for bangers.
• 44:10
  I love the Blues. I'm very happy about it.
• 44:12
  And mine was I think best value pick with Logan, we round nine
• 44:17
  pick 118 like he was .87 points per game last season.
• 44:21
  And that was without him being on P1.
• 44:23
  If he gets P1 this year, like we're kind of thinking he's
• 44:26
  gonna get, looking at the line rushes going into Game 1, he
• 44:28
  could be over point per game and in the ninth round that feels
• 44:30
  and that's. Yeah, all right, now I'm more
• 44:33
  fun category. Let's get to our biggest reaches
• 44:35
  of the draft. OHS do we regret it?
• 44:38
  Alright, my biggest reach of the draft is a guy that I hate
• 44:42
  having on my team and I don't know why I.
• 44:43
  Can't believe you put this. I just honestly, honestly, we
• 44:49
  were on the Discord call and I got in my head about trying to
• 44:52
  make you guys laugh. And then I just took him.
• 44:54
  And anyways, around 676, I took Andre Svechnikov.
• 44:58
  He could, it could work out really well for me.
• 45:00
  It could be this could be the year, right?
• 45:02
  But how many more years do we give him until it's like, OK,
• 45:04
  it's never the year. Realistically, pimp shots and
• 45:07
  hits. He's gonna be fine.
• 45:08
  So his floor super safe. It's just that I think there
• 45:11
  were better guys could safer guys could have taken like I
• 45:14
  have taken Marchenko who got taken a pic after I could have
• 45:16
  taken Bennett who Jackie took a few pics after that.
• 45:18
  So I'm not in love with this pick.
• 45:21
  It could end up being one of my better picks but but it's
• 45:23
  definitely I think the biggest reach that I made.
• 45:26
  I like it. I I personally think it can
• 45:29
  really work out. You you have a personal vendetta
• 45:32
  against him. But it was trying to overcome my
• 45:34
  own emotions and I felt about him and that's why I took him,
• 45:37
  because I felt like it could be right, but I'm not.
• 45:40
  Sure Josh this is wild because I was devastated when you took
• 45:43
  exception Ikov. Like he was like if we talked
• 45:46
  about always having backup options for your picks.
• 45:49
  Like when Gov went, I was like crying and didn't have time to
• 45:53
  set up my backup options because clearly my round six pick is my
• 45:56
  just reach. So yeah, so why don't we go to
• 46:00
  the. I'm not worried about him.
• 46:02
  I think he's a double double. I think he gets over a pimp per
• 46:04
  game, which is just nuts to match with that category
• 46:07
  category coverage. And I think it's gonna be 1 the
• 46:09
  whole season. So if he's not, then I'll be
• 46:12
  relieved that I didn't get them and.
• 46:17
  That's why it's yeah, that's fair.
• 46:21
  You got the Patriots hits that are gonna be there.
• 46:23
  So yeah, I, I think the, I actually think I, I disagree
• 46:26
  with what you said because I think he's a much safer pig than
• 46:28
  Marchenko. In fact, the way I would say it
• 46:32
  is that yes, Mark is better for points, most likely.
• 46:35
  But what you're going to get was fresh.
• 46:37
  I don't think you're going to be not unhappy with it.
• 46:39
  And considering the fact that when he's burned you in the
• 46:41
  past, me as well, by the way, I've taken him in the third or
• 46:44
  fourth round, in the sixth, you're pretty happy.
• 46:47
  I feel like there's no real way for him to disappoint value and
• 46:50
  it's nowhere but up. Alright, well that makes me feel
• 46:54
  a bit better about that fake. I have a lot of other ones that
• 46:55
  I'll talk about. After yeah so you know we'll
• 46:58
  we'll stick with Kevin here cause he also had his biggest
• 47:01
  reach in round 6 so why don't you have. 3 picks later.
• 47:04
  So my pick was 3 picks after Josh, so clearly I was tilting a
• 47:07
  little bit. And listen, it happens to
• 47:08
  everybody, but I really wanted this guy on my roster and I paid
• 47:12
  up for him because that's what's so tough about doing a podcast
• 47:17
  with these gems that I just don't know when they're going to
• 47:20
  take the guys that I want. So I just feel like I have to
• 47:22
  take them way earlier than their and their projected to go and
• 47:24
  Josh kept talking about like, oh, I know I'm gonna take and
• 47:27
  Kevin, you're gonna hate this. I was like, no, but I picked
• 47:32
  Will Cooley of the Rangers in the sixth round.
• 47:36
  Now listen, that might sound crazy.
• 47:39
  There is, there are some logic behind it.
• 47:41
  Like listen, I wanted Rangers guys on my roster.
• 47:43
  They have the best playoff schedule.
• 47:45
  Will Cooley was one of like 2 guys last season that could
• 47:49
  completely like, you know, make the his category in your matchup
• 47:52
  super lopsided. It was him and Sherwood that,
• 47:54
  you know, on a on a game by game basis, they could get like
• 47:57
  double digit hits and just like completely overwhelm your
• 48:00
  opponent. That mixed with the playoff
• 48:03
  schedule. Also with all the the positive
• 48:06
  news that he was getting in preseason about like how he's
• 48:08
  stabled in the top 6. They're expecting big things
• 48:10
  from him this year. He's gonna be, he's gonna be
• 48:12
  playing on the wing of either JT Miller or Trocheck.
• 48:15
  So I thought honestly, I really wanted him on my team.
• 48:18
  Looking back, I probably could have got him around 789.
• 48:22
  I don't know when they would have taken him.
• 48:24
  But listen, I made the pick in round six.
• 48:25
  I'm happy he's on my team. Like I feel like I made it work
• 48:27
  with my later picks. But yeah, definitely a big
• 48:30
  reach. He's probably not even going
• 48:31
  close to that in most of their leagues.
• 48:34
  Yeah, I was shocked when you made this pick.
• 48:36
  I'll be honest, I was like, no way.
• 48:38
  So first of all, it's not about the quality of the pick cause I
• 48:40
  think he's going to be a huge asset to your team.
• 48:42
  The playoff schedule is unreal. He might just when you hit in
• 48:45
  all three playoff weeks just because you have him.
• 48:47
  So I don't think there's, I'm super happy.
• 48:50
  I wish I had him on my team. So that's not what it is.
• 48:51
  It's just obviously where you drafted him.
• 48:53
  Yeah, I had him pegged. That's like around 8 or 9 guy.
• 48:56
  And so that just was completely out of left field for me.
• 48:59
  I didn't realize that the switch like a snipe like like threw you
• 49:02
  off so hard did it? Did I really wanted him?
• 49:05
  I think it's, I think it's definitely, I definitely thought
• 49:07
  it was a big reach. But he's still gonna be amazing
• 49:09
  for you. And I think he's definitely
• 49:11
  gonna take a big step from last year.
• 49:12
  I think with how I made my picks after, I kind of like lessened
• 49:14
  the blow of taking him. And definitely made-up for it
• 49:16
  with other pics for sure. It kind of helps me a little
• 49:20
  bit, but yeah, obviously huge reach on him and looking back,
• 49:23
  definitely would not have made it at the same spot.
• 49:26
  Look, he could return on value. He doesn't necessarily have to
• 49:29
  exceed. Not all your pics are going to
• 49:31
  exceed. And because of the floor and
• 49:32
  what Josh mentioned, it's a great point that he's going to
• 49:34
  win. Who hits every week?
• 49:36
  In the that was my logic. It's actually, it makes a lot of
• 49:39
  sense. That's like one category that
• 49:41
  you basically don't have to worry about.
• 49:42
  And I think he gets more points than did last year so.
• 49:45
  For sure. Yeah, yeah, we all agree he's
• 49:46
  gonna take a step up. More than Tom Wilson.
• 49:50
  More points than Tom Wilson. I would have bet my house on it.
• 49:53
  Would be close, yeah. But anyway, I I don't hate the
• 49:58
  pick at all, but of course it actually is a reach.
• 50:00
  If we were not in this league and like they had like three
• 50:03
  other people instead, I feel like you would have gone around
• 50:07
  12. Yeah, yeah, I could have done.
• 50:09
  I could have got away later. I just you guys got in my head
• 50:11
  not by using necessarily saying anything, just by me knowing you
• 50:14
  guys also like well. Cool knowing we exist.
• 50:18
  Yeah, so I feel like you guys are less of a fan of this pic
• 50:20
  than I am. Actually, I know you are.
• 50:22
  But I actually put this reach in for you.
• 50:26
  Yeah, put in both your reaches for you.
• 50:28
  Yeah, but I did disagree. Yeah, so it was Cam Fowler round
• 50:34
  10 pick 138I. I don't wanna regret it.
• 50:39
  And I I really think that my thought process here and I maybe
• 50:44
  like missing some variables, but I think that he's stapled to the
• 50:47
  Blues power play one, which as we mentioned is not necessarily
• 50:50
  set in stone because it could be one A1B.
• 50:53
  I just think that he's gonna get the most power play time of any
• 50:56
  defenseman on this team. I do love the Blues and I think
• 50:59
  he's gonna pretty much he's gonna be there.
• 51:03
  He's gonna get the ice. I'm going back in time.
• 51:05
  I probably would have taken Mctavish or you know, Raquel
• 51:08
  because those are the next few drafted.
• 51:10
  But considering the next defenseman that was drafted was
• 51:12
  Rasmus Andersson Montor, the Nightblade, I'm not unhappy
• 51:17
  having taken Fowler because I was in pretty desperate need for
• 51:21
  a defenseman at that point. So that was, I hate being in
• 51:24
  that spot. I really do.
• 51:25
  I like having a well-rounded team that I could just go for
• 51:27
  the guy that I think is going to be super good.
• 51:29
  But I was looking at what I had there was like, I need to pick
• 51:31
  up defenseman. I do think that that context is
• 51:35
  huge because I didn't register how desperately in need of a
• 51:38
  defenseman you were. And then looking at the other
• 51:40
  day that got taken, it makes the pig make a lot more sense.
• 51:43
  I still feel. And maybe also it makes sense in
• 51:45
  the fact that you're so high on the Blues, right?
• 51:48
  So it the pig makes sense with the logic that you're saying.
• 51:52
  To me, though, like I feel like you could have got Fowler like
• 51:54
  around like 15 really. Maybe I'm exaggerating.
• 51:57
  I don't know Kevin, what you think, but to me, like he was
• 52:00
  such a like, what makes him that much better?
• 52:04
  Does he get back? Like what makes him that much
• 52:05
  better than like some of the power play 1 defenseman who
• 52:07
  aren't even drafted in our league?
• 52:09
  You know, like you look at like a like a Klingberg Drysdale.
• 52:13
  You know, those guys aren't drafted in the league.
• 52:15
  They both play on DeAngelo. So that's why it's me.
• 52:17
  I was surprised by the pick. But if you're that high on the
• 52:20
  Blues, he did go kind of nuts after he got traded there last
• 52:22
  year. So it's not like there's no
• 52:24
  history to bank it on. So he got he followed that
• 52:27
  money. You know, he got signed.
• 52:28
  So look in the pig. Makes sense.
• 52:30
  I definitely still think it's a reach.
• 52:32
  Like you could have got him later but but I think he could
• 52:34
  still be a solid asset to your team.
• 52:36
  Yeah, I mean. I already did in the playoffs
• 52:37
  though. Like do you guys know what his
• 52:39
  stats? Were I don't know what's up in
• 52:40
  my head. 10 points in seven games.
• 52:44
  Yeah, actually I remember that. Wasn't he like leading the
• 52:46
  league in the in playoff points that by like game two or
• 52:48
  something? And 36 points in 51 games after
• 52:51
  being traded there. Like these are elite, elite
• 52:53
  numbers. Like I'm not excited about the
• 52:55
  back categories, but I think this is just one of those pick
• 52:58
  up power play kind of specialist later on and hope for the best.
• 53:01
  That's fair. The issue and I won't go on for
• 53:04
  too long, but the issue with Fowler is that he's like Josh
• 53:07
  said, like he's one of those one-dimensional power play
• 53:10
  quarterbacks that you know, he'll get you to power play
• 53:12
  points, but he's not really getting you anything else.
• 53:13
  He's not getting hits, blocks or shots.
• 53:16
  So I not gonna lie, J, when I saw you make the pick in the
• 53:19
  10th round, I was like pretty happy because he was like not
• 53:22
  even close to anybody that was considering.
• 53:24
  And I generally thought it was just it was bad.
• 53:26
  It was bad value. I got, I ended up getting Morgan
• 53:30
  Riley at pick 22 in the 15th round, like the same kind of guy
• 53:34
  as Fowler where you're not really getting much category
• 53:36
  coverage, he's just getting you power play points and Eric.
• 53:39
  Carlson got gas despair in the 19th rounds.
• 53:42
  And at the same. Time they would take Gosta spare
• 53:44
  over Fowler. I take while Carlson and gossip
• 53:47
  spare probably over father. Yeah, look, I, I can't.
• 53:51
  Not put all but. All of these like Will Cooley in
• 53:54
  the sixth round and like it was a tenth round pick who like the
• 53:57
  replacement value is not. Like, I picked freaking Dougie
• 53:59
  Hamilton in the seventh round, and that's not looking very good
• 54:02
  right now. I'd rather have come foul, but
• 54:05
  honestly, maybe. But yeah, I know.
• 54:07
  Also, like, Jake's had his hunches before where they paid
• 54:09
  off, so it's not like this is crazy.
• 54:11
  Like, if the Blues are as good as you think they're gonna be,
• 54:13
  there's a great pick so. He's gonna end up somewhere in
• 54:15
  the middle of like he won't do what the Blues did at the end of
• 54:18
  last season where they were just like on a tear for two months.
• 54:20
  But he's not going to be like zeros like a Gossip Bear can be.
• 54:24
  So I think he I think he can end up being like, what's what's 36
• 54:29
  points in 51 games? That's like .7 points per game.
• 54:32
  Like I think he can be like a point 6.65 quite easily.
• 54:37
  And it's super solid and being like point that's very decent.
• 54:43
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 54:44
  We'll have to see how it goes. You're right though.
• 54:45
  I mean, it's a total reach. I don't know in hindsight, like
• 54:48
  I'm happy I have them on my team, but value is kind of where
• 54:51
  things are at here, so. Yeah, I think all right.
• 54:55
  Yeah. Funny because this is so us
• 54:59
  like. What?
• 55:00
  We're about to say is just like unmistakably characteristic of
• 55:06
  all of us. Yeah.
• 55:08
  So the last segment of this post draft discussion is going to be
• 55:11
  we're going to rate our own teams out of 10 and say how do
• 55:14
  we feel about our team in general?
• 55:17
  We could discuss. So I'll I'll go first with my
• 55:21
  ranking. I think that's what JQ was
• 55:22
  talking about. I mean just in general, but.
• 55:24
  Josh is so dramatic. I ranked my team a 5 out of 10.
• 55:30
  I think I took way too many high risk, high reward guys.
• 55:33
  So here's I added some more that I didn't even think we're hiring
• 55:36
  skyward, but new things have come out.
• 55:38
  So I put slider there. I thought that was a safe bet.
• 55:40
  But now does he lose power play 1?
• 55:42
  It's a possibility. I put sketch because again, you
• 55:44
  never know what rod Rod has bumped him off play in the past.
• 55:46
  Hamilton's most recent lines show that he's powerfully 2 for
• 55:50
  and Luke Hughes took his spot. That's a huge risk higher award.
• 55:52
  I took Seth Jones, that ones like one of them that seems to
• 55:55
  be paying off Evander Kane I took in the 11th round and he's
• 55:58
  a bangers beast but he's also a bionic man, super old and I took
• 56:03
  him cause he's power play one but it's very unlikely that
• 56:06
  sticks long term. Lafreniere, another one I took
• 56:09
  fourteenth round. Is he going to crack power play
• 56:11
  one? Who knows?
• 56:11
  That's free value though. Fourteenth round.
• 56:13
  Yeah, Crider, I took 16th round. Who knows if the Ducks are do
• 56:16
  anything. Cried, had an awful year last
• 56:17
  year. I think I took so many and then
• 56:19
  I took goalies. I took camper in the 8th and I
• 56:22
  took it to court in the 12th. And yeah, it's just I feel like
• 56:26
  I took so many high risk Harward guys.
• 56:28
  And what are the odds? All my, all my risks pay off.
• 56:31
  So it's just the it's sometimes it felt like I could have taken
• 56:34
  a safer guy who could have a similar ceiling without having
• 56:36
  the risk in it. So that's kind of where I'm
• 56:38
  feeling right now. And yeah, I don't know what you
• 56:41
  guys think of my team. I think that you're high risk,
• 56:45
  high reward picks were fine because of where you took them.
• 56:48
  That's the truth. And I feel like Kevin's probably
• 56:50
  on the same page as me here. And it's not as if it's not as
• 56:55
  if your team doesn't look good. You know what I mean?
• 56:58
  Like the the safe guy, you didn't list the safe guys.
• 57:00
  Like you're definitely way too low on your team than you should
• 57:03
  be I think. I mean, I will give the viewer
• 57:06
  some context. The three years that I won
• 57:10
  back-to-back, if you asked me to rate my own team, I probably
• 57:12
  would have given a similar rating.
• 57:14
  So. Yeah, but like look like you're
• 57:18
  you're top 4, which we listed Miller Crosby cider and Thompson
• 57:22
  cider. I know you put him in the risk
• 57:23
  category, but no, I don't think I feel like that saw such a
• 57:28
  solid beginning and foundation that sure, like you may have a
• 57:32
  slightly more high risk, high rewards, but statistically it's
• 57:36
  going to work out and you'll be OK.
• 57:39
  Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm not reading your team out of five
• 57:41
  out of 10. Do I like my team more?
• 57:44
  Yes, but also drafted my team so.
• 57:47
  That's fair. I'd hope you guys both like your
• 57:49
  teams more. But I I5 is way too low.
• 57:52
  I would give you like at least an 8 on 10.
• 57:54
  I I think that you're set up, you have a strong foundation and
• 57:57
  you can develop your team in various different ways given
• 58:01
  like the foundational pieces you have.
• 58:03
  And yeah, I mean, listen, it always feels bad when you get
• 58:06
  when you take goalies earlier and then you look at your
• 58:09
  opponents skaters and you're like, why?
• 58:11
  They have so many better skaters than me?
• 58:13
  But like, you drafted goalies higher and then that usually
• 58:16
  ends up paying off in certain weeks throughout the season.
• 58:18
  Obviously, 0G is a very popular strategy because a lot of
• 58:21
  uncertainty happens with goalies.
• 58:23
  So I feel like this is the first year that you invest so much in
• 58:26
  goalies. Yeah.
• 58:28
  And we'll see that. That's honestly gonna make or
• 58:31
  break the entire value. But Kemper, I had Kemper last
• 58:35
  year and I dropped him in the fourth round.
• 58:37
  And he was arguably a top five goalie for most of the fantasy
• 58:40
  season when he was playing. So he's a stud.
• 58:43
  Like, obviously, you know, he played one game and it didn't go
• 58:46
  well. He also played the Colorado
• 58:47
  Avalanche, so. Yeah, I'm not.
• 58:49
  I'm learning. About it.
• 58:50
  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, natures only have lunch.
• 58:55
  Yeah, yeah. OK, how do you feel about your
• 58:58
  team? I I would rate my team a 9.3 on
• 59:05
  10 And here's a little bit of an interesting tangent.
• 59:08
  OK after recording our mail back episode which we dropped on
• 59:13
  September 30th, I basically realized that getting a blocking
• 59:17
  defenseman with legit offensive potential and the output is
• 59:21
  extremely rare. So because of that, basically
• 59:24
  just decided not to focus on that in our draft.
• 59:27
  I picked all offensive guys, centre, left wing, right wing
• 59:31
  from round one to seven. And at that point in the
• 59:36
  projections in the last year ranked, I was ranked like upper
• 59:41
  middle of the pack as far as blocks go.
• 59:44
  So that to me basically shows that even if you know Nikishin,
• 59:51
  who was like a guy I drafted later on, does nothing for
• 59:54
  blocks. Like they're like the these
• 59:56
  stats that accumulate being like a good block team doesn't
• 59:59
  correlate really with much else. Then I'm happy.
• 1:00:03
  With what I ended up with, and I'm way more offensive, but I
• 1:00:08
  like the archetype that all my forwards are basically gonna
• 1:00:10
  help me with a lot of categories help me win matchups.
• 1:00:13
  My goal tending is a problem, no question about it.
• 1:00:16
  I think you only drafted 1 goalie and it was Stuart Skin.
• 1:00:18
  I have Stuart Skinner and I was debating really, really hard
• 1:00:22
  between picking up person on Philly or Shiloh, but he knows
• 1:00:26
  Pittsburgh Penguins and I, I, I chose Wesley but.
• 1:00:31
  Jordan, there's no way you're picking Sheilas because he got
• 1:00:33
  confirmed as the starter like hours before the start of.
• 1:00:35
  The year it was, I mean, like, not that I'm super high on Earth
• 1:00:38
  than you though, I mean like as a safer bet.
• 1:00:40
  So I went Ursin, but that wouldn't hindsight was a
• 1:00:42
  mistake. And Fowler, Nikishin and
• 1:00:45
  Sergachev, I think it would be a serviceable top 3D core.
• 1:00:48
  So because I'm really not, I didn't build a defenseman team.
• 1:00:51
  I think that's fine for now, especially if Nikishin is good.
• 1:00:54
  So yeah, we'll see how things go.
• 1:00:56
  I built A-Team based on forwards based on category coverage.
• 1:01:00
  My face offs are a bit weak but I still really like my
• 1:01:03
  foundation and I think it could go really well for me.
• 1:01:06
  Did you say you're eating? Yeah, he said his 9.3 out of 10.
• 1:01:10
  I really like your team, honestly.
• 1:01:12
  I I think, yeah, definitely goalies and defensemen are where
• 1:01:15
  you kind of punted, but your forwards are sick, so that could
• 1:01:18
  easily make up for it. Just need to make some trades
• 1:01:21
  with the right people. It gave me a not Kevin.
• 1:01:27
  There we go. Or just me and not Josh, but
• 1:01:30
  yeah, yeah. OK.
• 1:01:32
  So I gave my team an 8.5 out of 10 and honestly I walked out of
• 1:01:38
  the draft and I was on cloud 9 because I was honestly thrilled
• 1:01:42
  with how it how it went. I also punted goalies and
• 1:01:46
  defensemen to an extent. I was the last team to draft the
• 1:01:49
  goalie around my my first goalie pick was around 17.
• 1:01:52
  I drafted UPL of the Buffalo Sabres who didn't even make it
• 1:01:55
  out of the draft without getting injured and in around 20 the
• 1:02:01
  last round of our draft I drafted the Joseph Wall to have
• 1:02:04
  a an IR stash and then after the draft I ended up picking up
• 1:02:07
  Scott Wedgewood and Freddie Anderson who Scott Wedgewood is
• 1:02:10
  currently the starter for. The Avalanche just played game
• 1:02:12
  one and looked like a stud. So listen if Blackwood needs to
• 1:02:15
  rest I wouldn't hate that. And Kochetkov is also currently
• 1:02:19
  hurt, so Freddie Anderson is also the starter on Carolina.
• 1:02:23
  So I'm not too upset about having those two goaltenders
• 1:02:27
  while Wallin looking in around my IR.
• 1:02:31
  My defensemen were obviously I punted right.
• 1:02:35
  So Jake Sanderson was my fourth round pick and I don't think I
• 1:02:37
  dropped a defenseman until like round 14 after that.
• 1:02:40
  So but I'm really happy with how it turned out.
• 1:02:43
  I think my decor with Sanderson Morgan, Riley Carlson and then I
• 1:02:47
  have a Romanov rounding it out for more of a a banger guy.
• 1:02:51
  Pretty happy with that. Super happy with my centres.
• 1:02:54
  I I have a trocheck cousins Josh Norris and Logan Cooley and I
• 1:02:59
  feel like all you know, top three of those guys are bangers
• 1:03:02
  centres who I'm really hyped about.
• 1:03:04
  Who are all Josh Norris? I feel like he's a sleeper this
• 1:03:07
  year. We nobody really talked about
• 1:03:08
  him that much because he's squishy and kind of gets.
• 1:03:10
  Really wanted him. I was pissed when he took him.
• 1:03:14
  Rendering Tage Thompson and is going to be the one see on that
• 1:03:17
  Buffalo team who people are, you know, saying it should finally
• 1:03:20
  be better than last year. So really.
• 1:03:23
  Yeah, he he's healthy, will be great.
• 1:03:25
  Yeah, I I love your team. I mean, I'm always the guy who
• 1:03:28
  takes Norris like late in the draft.
• 1:03:29
  You took him earlier than I wanted to, so that's why you got
• 1:03:32
  him. But but yeah, I know this team
• 1:03:34
  is actually just unreal. I'm looking at your draft and I
• 1:03:37
  think other the only like pick that step like jumps out to me
• 1:03:40
  is the Will Cooley one. But since every other pick is
• 1:03:43
  such a fire pick, it makes up for it for where you took him.
• 1:03:46
  So yeah, I would be shocked if your team is not.
• 1:03:49
  Look, as long as you keep getting lucky with goalies, then
• 1:03:52
  then I think you're you're probably in the best situation.
• 1:03:55
  I think that's both where both you guys are.
• 1:03:57
  I think you you need to figure out your goalies.
• 1:03:59
  And if you do, then you have top teams in the league.
• 1:04:01
  And if not, you'll be still, you know, in the playoffs,
• 1:04:04
  obviously, but but that's the biggest question mark and.
• 1:04:08
  We've done this in the past, Josh, where like, you know.
• 1:04:10
  You're always personal stuff. Why?
• 1:04:11
  Does your goalies end up, you draft the goalies later, right?
• 1:04:14
  So you're replacing that with drafting skaters at value, like
• 1:04:18
  round seven, round eight are getting skaters instead of
• 1:04:20
  goalies. And then you just you just patch
• 1:04:22
  up the holes with goalies throughout the season.
• 1:04:24
  Like, yeah, you may not have the consistency, but you're already
• 1:04:26
  making up for it by winning so many skater cats throughout the
• 1:04:29
  season that, you know, if you steal the odd week with, you
• 1:04:32
  know, you get upl getting a shutout or something and then
• 1:04:35
  you end up winning three out of five goalie cats that week.
• 1:04:38
  That's just really on top of your scars already being studs.
• 1:04:42
  Now, honestly, I got so in my head about since I knew you guys
• 1:04:44
  were both going 0G also and I figured more people in the
• 1:04:48
  league were gonna do it. I was like, OK, maybe I'll like
• 1:04:50
  shake things up and do kind of like a middle G strategy so
• 1:04:53
  that, you know, there's not too much crowding at the bottom,
• 1:04:56
  like fighting for all those waiver bullies.
• 1:04:57
  Yeah. So we'll see what happens.
• 1:04:59
  It it could be nice if my goalies pay off, you know, then
• 1:05:02
  it could be nice not having to stress about that all season.
• 1:05:04
  But I definitely not the happiest of how my draft went
• 1:05:07
  obviously compared to you guys who are I would have I would
• 1:05:10
  have gone get. Temper then punted their second
• 1:05:12
  goalie like later than the cord. Yeah, honestly just like the
• 1:05:16
  projections I was looking at had the cord ranked so much higher
• 1:05:18
  than where his ADP was that I felt like I had to take him.
• 1:05:21
  And we when we talked about, you know, I was relistening also
• 1:05:24
  when I was working out to our, to our division rankings and we
• 1:05:28
  were all just saying like Seattle's mid.
• 1:05:29
  But the court is 6. So I, you know, I was, I always
• 1:05:32
  kind of thought he was really good and I thought he had some
• 1:05:34
  great stretches last year. So we'll see.
• 1:05:36
  First game hasn't even started yet for some of these teams.
• 1:05:39
  So there's still a lot that's up in the air.
• 1:05:41
  But I think it's gonna be an exciting year for us.
• 1:05:43
  And I'm excited to proclaim my season over every night until it
• 1:05:46
  actually ends. And now the listeners know we
• 1:05:50
  all work out. I also just wanna, you know,
• 1:05:56
  we'll wrap it up right here, but if you're curious about what the
• 1:05:59
  rest of our team looks like, join the discord.
• 1:06:02
  I'm telling you, it's such a good time and we're posting our
• 1:06:05
  teams in there. We're discussing maybe we'll run
• 1:06:07
  a poll after this episode goes live on posting our teams in
• 1:06:10
  Discord, complete teams and having you guys vote on who you
• 1:06:12
  whose team you like best on and see how that goes.
• 1:06:15
  But just wanted to shout that out.
• 1:06:16
  Because anyone who votes, just know that I'm very, I think very
• 1:06:20
  offence to stuff and I'm very, I react very emotionally.
• 1:06:23
  So if you don't rate me highly, I'll cry.
• 1:06:27
  It's gonna be higher than A5 on 10.
• 1:06:29
  It's like it's a decent decent bar to clear I think.
• 1:06:33
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• 1:06:37
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