Latest / White Coat Black Sheep / Your Body Is Keeping Score — and It's Time to Listen

Transcript

Your Body Is Keeping Score — and It's Time to Listen · White Coat Black Sheep

• 0:00
  Welcome to White Coat, Black Sheep, where science gets curious and dogma gets
• 0:03
  uncomfortable. I'm Dr. Civelli. Today, we talk physiology,
• 0:07
  evidence, and real-world medicine, plus the questions you're not supposed to ask,
• 0:11
  but probably should. If you care about health and think there's a better way,
• 0:14
  welcome to our show.
• 0:21
  Today, we have Dr. Anna Marie. She is known as the
• 0:25
  Mindset Doctor,
• 0:27
  and she is a leader in mindset transformation, human performance, and
• 0:31
  holistic wellness.
• 0:33
  She has over two decades of experience in education, health, and wellbeing.
• 0:37
  She helps individuals and organizations bridge the gap between external success
• 0:41
  and internal fulfillment. Blending neuroscience and
• 0:45
  neuropsychology and epigenetics with a mind, body, spirit
• 0:49
  approach, Dr. Anna Marie empowers people to break
• 0:52
  through their limiting beliefs and reconnect with purpose and
• 0:56
  elevate their performance. And this is from the inside out, which I love.
• 1:00
  As the founder of Happy Whole You, she has helped countless individuals
• 1:04
  and teams move from burnout and disconnection to alignment and
• 1:08
  resilience and lasting transformation.
• 1:11
  Welcome, Doctor. How are you today?
• 1:14
  I'm good. I'm happy to be here and end my day with you.
• 1:17
  Yes, me too. So I've met you years ago, but I know
• 1:22
  so much time has passed, and at that time, I was more so in
• 1:25
  marketing. I was not working as a doctor yet.
• 1:28
  So you were, though. So
• 1:31
  what has it looked like in the last five years?
• 1:35
  Oh my gosh. Five years.
• 1:37
  Small question.
• 1:38
  I know. Five years feels like a lifetime, and then it feels like yesterday-
• 1:41
  Right
• 1:41
  ... all in one.
• 1:42
  Yeah.
• 1:43
  And yeah.
• 1:45
  Well, so in 2018, I opened Happy Whole You and started
• 1:49
  working with people from a holistic standpoint, and then pursued
• 1:53
  my PhD and have really gone
• 1:56
  full-time, all-in to my wellness center, and it's
• 2:00
  been really transformational for me and
• 2:03
  my clients, and I pinch myself every day that I get to do what I do.
• 2:08
  Yeah.
• 2:08
  And it's just wild. And then raising two kids and being a
• 2:11
  wife and all the other things that-
• 2:14
  And you're married too.
• 2:15
  Yes.
• 2:15
  Oh my gosh. You needed all the things.
• 2:17
  17, 18 years, somewhere around there.
• 2:19
  I'm the one that always forgets our anniversary.
• 2:21
  I-
• 2:22
  Well, you're slightly an overachiever.
• 2:24
  Slightly. Yeah. I don't know why I feel like I have a lot to prove, but
• 2:28
  it is what it is.
• 2:30
  Oh, my gosh. So you're located here in Bakersfield,
• 2:33
  right?
• 2:34
  Mm-hmm.
• 2:34
  Bakersfield, California. Any other locations, or this is the spot?
• 2:38
  This is the spot. I'm originally from Michigan.
• 2:40
  I actually opened up three other Happy Whole
• 2:45
  You's, and some people don't know this, so-
• 2:47
  I'm glad I asked.
• 2:49
  Yeah.
• 2:50
  So
• 2:51
  opened up one in Pocatello, Idaho first.
• 2:54
  Okay.
• 2:54
  And I had a business partner there.
• 2:56
  And then we opened Bakersfield, California, then we opened Fort Collins, Colorado,
• 3:01
  and then
• 3:02
  COVID hit. And then we actually opened another one in...
• 3:07
  Actually consulted to help someone open one, and they used our trademark, Happy
• 3:11
  Whole You, and anyways, it was a really interesting time.
• 3:15
  Legally.
• 3:16
  Yes.
• 3:18
  But during COVID, we ended up selling the other two to different doctors,
• 3:21
  and so now we just have the Bakersfield location.
• 3:25
  But what I learned by that, my ego totally wanted to own a bunch of them all over
• 3:29
  the world.
• 3:29
  Mm-hmm.
• 3:30
  And
• 3:31
  then there's reality-
• 3:32
  Mm-hmm
• 3:32
  ... and I'm like, "Yeah, I don't want to be that busy in-
• 3:36
  Mm-hmm
• 3:37
  ... that capacity." And-
• 3:38
  Mm-hmm
• 3:39
  ... so life always works out.
• 3:41
  Yeah.
• 3:41
  Yeah.
• 3:41
  It definitely does.
• 3:43
  I am currently on this journey to open wellness centers,
• 3:48
  and it's interesting that you do assign it with a ego.
• 3:52
  Mm-hmm.
• 3:53
  I need to self-reflect on that one.
• 3:56
  Because I don't-
• 3:57
  Yeah
• 3:57
  ... feel like on the surface level that it's ego.
• 4:01
  I've known you, you've always had this passion to help
• 4:05
  people-
• 4:05
  Mm-hmm
• 4:05
  ... and to change...
• 4:07
  You can change your life, and you've always-
• 4:09
  Yeah
• 4:09
  ... believed that people can heal.
• 4:10
  Mm-hmm.
• 4:11
  And I share that with you, and so it's just like
• 4:15
  reaching more people. I just don't believe that there's a boundary to it.
• 4:19
  No.
• 4:19
  Yeah, things cost money, okay?
• 4:21
  Yeah.
• 4:22
  Yes, you have to take a flight to other locations, but I also-
• 4:25
  Yeah
• 4:25
  ... just believe doors open where they open.
• 4:28
  Mm-hmm.
• 4:28
  And so I just find myself walking through them, and then currently,
• 4:32
  I'm walking through that door in Florida-
• 4:35
  Mm-hmm
• 4:36
  ... but it doesn't mean that I'm not also here.
• 4:38
  So it's-
• 4:38
  Right.
• 4:39
  But my team is the answer.
• 4:42
  Mm-hmm.
• 4:42
  Right? So finding your assistant, right, you're just like, "She's-"
• 4:46
  Oh, she's the best
• 4:46
  ... amazing."
• 4:47
  Yes.
• 4:49
  To me, I feel like at least logistics-wise,
• 4:53
  I know I can do it because I have chosen-
• 4:55
  Mm-hmm
• 4:56
  ... good people who are not going to fail me.
• 4:59
  And if that's wrong-
• 5:00
  Yeah
• 5:01
  ... I hope that's not wrong.
• 5:03
  Yes. You have to surround yourself with good people.
• 5:06
  And honestly, when I said the ego,
• 5:10
  I've really been looking at the ego versus soul, so
• 5:14
  I was just going to dive into this for a second here-
• 5:16
  No, do it. Yeah
• 5:16
  ... because from an entrepreneur standpoint,
• 5:20
  businesswoman, a lot of people don't know that I've invested in real estate
• 5:24
  since a young age. I used to day trade.
• 5:26
  I have other businesses that I do, but I'm mostly known for Happy Whole You
• 5:30
  and the Mindset Doctor and what I do in the public eye.
• 5:33
  Mm-hmm.
• 5:34
  But
• 5:36
  going through this journey as an entrepreneur, what I've realized is there
• 5:40
  are some opportunities and endeavors that sound good on the
• 5:44
  surface-
• 5:44
  Mm-hmm
• 5:45
  ... that could turn a dollar, that could do all these great things for us.
• 5:48
  But if we're not truly in alignment with it-
• 5:51
  Mm-hmm
• 5:52
  ... from a soul level, like-
• 5:54
  Mm-hmm
• 5:54
  ... yes, this is all the fibers of my being say yes.
• 5:58
  Mm-hmm.
• 5:59
  And we kind of talk ourselves into, oh, we should do this because it'll make us
• 6:02
  this, or we should do that because da da da da.
• 6:04
  That's when I feel like the ego's showing up, and it's trying to
• 6:08
  prove-
• 6:08
  Interesting.
• 6:08
  ... it's trying to do all these things, and so it's a really interesting
• 6:12
  thing I've been playing with. So anytime I have an opportunity in front of me, I'm
• 6:16
  like, "Is it a full body, soul yes-
• 6:19
  Mm-hmm
• 6:19
  ... with every fiber of my being?"Or is it kind of like, "Well yeah, that'd be
• 6:23
  great, and of course I could do that, and it'd be successful," and all the things,
• 6:27
  but it's not a full-body yes. That's when I know my ego's like, "Oh
• 6:31
  yeah, this is your ego lead." So that's what I mean by that.
• 6:34
  I love that answer.
• 6:34
  So it's kind of interesting.
• 6:36
  Yeah.
• 6:36
  It's just helping us get centered to really think, "What do I really, really
• 6:40
  want?"
• 6:40
  Mm-hmm.
• 6:41
  From that soul level.
• 6:42
  Yeah. And I totally resonate with that.
• 6:45
  I am somebody who... I
• 6:47
  have like, "Yes!" I'm enthusiastic.
• 6:50
  Okay.
• 6:50
  And whenever somebody's excited, I'm excited.
• 6:52
  Mm-hmm.
• 6:52
  If somebody's sad, I feel, in a sense, I'm sad.
• 6:55
  I feel like I get to share that joy, high or low, right?
• 6:59
  So you translate that into business, it ain't all good.
• 7:03
  No.
• 7:04
  So I really have learned to neutralize, like nuke it-
• 7:08
  Mm-hmm
• 7:08
  ... because that's not how you make wise business decisions.
• 7:12
  Mm-hmm.
• 7:12
  And so I do, I turn that off, because you can.
• 7:16
  Mm-hmm.
• 7:16
  And just really try to, yes, I can
• 7:20
  really like somebody and I don't have to do business with you.
• 7:23
  We could just be friends.
• 7:24
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 7:25
  And that's a new learned behavior of mine.
• 7:29
  Well yeah, because we're so... I don't know, I'm a recovering people
• 7:33
  pleaser, so
• 7:34
  Oh. Oh.
• 7:38
  So yeah, we took... Yes, you too. Yeah, so it's,
• 7:42
  I don't know. And I think, too-
• 7:44
  Mm-hmm
• 7:44
  ... the more success you have, and we do have
• 7:47
  more success when we are in alignment with our true authentic self, and we are-
• 7:51
  Yeah
• 7:51
  ... letting our soul lead. Success is just inevitable.
• 7:54
  Mm-hmm.
• 7:54
  And when we get in that energy,
• 7:58
  what I find happens is the more success that
• 8:02
  I get, the more it's kind of like,
• 8:05
  "Oh, you don't have time for us," or, "Oh..."
• 8:09
  The people that used to see you when you used to, I don't want to say smaller,
• 8:13
  but when you weren't fully pursuing everything in every fiber of your
• 8:17
  being of what you want in your life-
• 8:20
  Mm-hmm
• 8:20
  ... it makes other people uncomfortable.
• 8:22
  Totally.
• 8:23
  And then-
• 8:23
  Yeah
• 8:23
  ... there's this pull to kind of pull you back down to where you
• 8:27
  were.
• 8:28
  To be the same.
• 8:28
  To be the same.
• 8:29
  You're not allowed to grow.
• 8:31
  Right?
• 8:31
  Mm-hmm.
• 8:31
  And it's a really interesting thing to
• 8:35
  look at, and I'm always like metacognition of
• 8:39
  thinking of our thoughts as this thing I'm super obsessed with.
• 8:42
  Yeah.
• 8:43
  And when I-
• 8:44
  That internal thought not everybody has.
• 8:46
  Right.
• 8:47
  Yeah.
• 8:47
  And
• 8:48
  some studies show that less than 30% of people actually think of their thoughts.
• 8:51
  Can you imagine? I can't imagine.
• 8:53
  No, but it's like when you are a person that does that, when you find
• 8:57
  out other people don't do that, you're like, "Oh wait, what do they even-"
• 8:59
  Wait, what?
• 8:59
  Like, "What? What's happening?"
• 8:59
  You're just looking forward?
• 9:01
  Yeah.
• 9:01
  You're just looking where your eyes are looking? Can you even see?
• 9:05
  I know. It's just wild.
• 9:07
  Can you see color?
• 9:08
  Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's super fascinating.
• 9:11
  But, I
• 9:13
  work with people on this all the time about thinking of our thoughts and how
• 9:17
  our thoughts are affecting our biology, and how whatever it is
• 9:20
  that we believe is ultimately coming into true
• 9:24
  form.
• 9:25
  Mm-hmm.
• 9:25
  And most people say, "Oh, well, I'll believe it when I see it." It's like no.
• 9:29
  The way the universe works, the way quantum physics works, is you
• 9:32
  have to believe it first.
• 9:34
  Mm-hmm.
• 9:35
  And then it will come into true form, and then you'll see it.
• 9:37
  That's why the success you've had, that was a belief in your
• 9:41
  mind.
• 9:42
  Yeah.
• 9:42
  And you've brought it into fruition.
• 9:44
  Yeah.
• 9:45
  But some people go through life-
• 9:46
  That's so interesting
• 9:46
  ... just believing whatever anyone else is telling them, and they wonder why their
• 9:50
  life is a pile of mess, and it's like because you never allowed your
• 9:54
  beliefs to be the center of your mind and to be the center of
• 9:57
  everything.
• 9:58
  Yeah.
• 9:58
  So you've pulled in other people's beliefs and other people's dreams for you.
• 10:01
  Mm-hmm.
• 10:02
  And here it is.
• 10:03
  And lack of vision is such a disease in itself.
• 10:06
  Yes. Oh my gosh. I know there's a quote that someone said about that, and it's not
• 10:10
  coming to me right now, but yeah. Without a vision, people will perish.
• 10:15
  Basically. I'm-
• 10:15
  Yeah. I mean, is that in the Bible?
• 10:17
  It feels biblical.
• 10:18
  It really does. It might be there. It might be that kind of
• 10:22
  important book.
• 10:25
  It sounds like it.
• 10:26
  Yes. Oh, man.
• 10:28
  Oh, yeah.
• 10:29
  Oh, gosh. I do believe if... I think it's the "Field of Dreams." Okay, I'm
• 10:33
  not a movie person, but I'm going to just-
• 10:35
  Yeah
• 10:35
  ... use a movie phrase.
• 10:36
  Go with it.
• 10:36
  "If you build it, the people will come."
• 10:38
  Mm-hmm.
• 10:39
  So it's like-
• 10:40
  Yes
• 10:40
  ... that is how I function. So-
• 10:43
  Yes
• 10:43
  ... I've always set the date, and then you build it.
• 10:47
  Mm-hmm.
• 10:47
  Then you launch it.
• 10:48
  Work backwards from there.
• 10:49
  It doesn't mean that it's already in fruition, but
• 10:52
  it is now. I've activated it.
• 10:55
  Yeah. That's what... My husband gets scared when I have an idea.
• 10:59
  I love this for him.
• 11:01
  Because he's like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa."
• 11:04
  He's the analytical one, and I'm the one that has the big vision.
• 11:07
  Yes.
• 11:07
  And we've been married for 17 years now, so he knows when I have an
• 11:11
  idea, he's like, "Oh, crap. It's already done.
• 11:14
  She's already moving towards it."
• 11:17
  Oh, my gosh. I had
• 11:19
  this vision of... So the brick and mortar that I have in
• 11:23
  Bakersfield, California, it's right downtown,
• 11:26
  and I really wanted to buy the house right next door to my
• 11:30
  building. And the guy, he is going to sell it to me, but not yet.
• 11:33
  Mm-hmm.
• 11:33
  Because this is what I'm manifesting.
• 11:36
  And then I was like, "You know, I could just look down the
• 11:40
  street, I'm sure, and find something." And no joke, there was this
• 11:44
  house, and it was abandoned. It's all broken down, all the things.
• 11:47
  And it's a house and then a two-unit.
• 11:50
  Anyways, I call my realtor and I was like, "Okay, this is
• 11:54
  how much I want to put on this house," or whatever.
• 11:55
  Yeah.
• 11:55
  And he's like, "Oh, okay." And then I literally went home, and I was like, "Oh,
• 11:58
  yeah, babe, remember when I was talking I want an Airbnb right down the street from
• 12:01
  the center, and all the things? I just want to let you know, I just put in a
• 12:05
  bid on a house right now." And he's like, "What?"
• 12:08
  It was an idea I had a few weeks-
• 12:11
  Yesterday
• 12:11
  ... prior, and then all of a sudden it's here-
• 12:12
  This morning
• 12:13
  ... and it's happening and it's done.
• 12:14
  Mm-hmm.
• 12:14
  So
• 12:15
  anyways, yeah, I kind of move fast with that.
• 12:17
  But when I know-
• 12:18
  I feel like a few weeks is like a few cat lives, so I think that's fine.
• 12:22
  Yeah. Yes.
• 12:23
  Yeah.
• 12:23
  Yes. I'm telling you. It's like-
• 12:24
  That's a long time to me
• 12:25
  ... collapsing time and making things happen faster. I mean, we only get one life.
• 12:29
  Yeah.
• 12:29
  It's like, what?80, 90 years old, that is not enough
• 12:33
  time. I'm trying to live a thousand lives in one-
• 12:37
  Yeah. I'm only trying to live-
• 12:37
  ... while healing thousands of years of trauma.
• 12:40
  Yeah.
• 12:41
  All at once.
• 12:41
  Yeah.
• 12:43
  I think
• 12:44
  that's good.
• 12:45
  Yeah. But yeah, the vision, our belief system is
• 12:49
  so powerful, and when you allow your beliefs to serve you
• 12:53
  and allow them to be yours-
• 12:54
  Mm-hmm
• 12:54
  ... anything is possible. But if you allow other people's ideas, thoughts, beliefs
• 12:58
  to run your life, you will wake up one day and be like,
• 13:01
  "What have I done with my life?"
• 13:03
  Yeah.
• 13:03
  Yeah.
• 13:04
  I definitely don't want to be that guy.
• 13:05
  No. No, thank you.
• 13:08
  Ugh. Yeah. I like no regrets, but then, of course, it's
• 13:11
  impossible to have no regrets.
• 13:14
  Oh-
• 13:15
  Impossible.
• 13:16
  Yeah. Yeah, I've done some really dumb s**t. Can we swear on this? I don't know.
• 13:18
  You can do-
• 13:19
  Okay
• 13:19
  ... whatever you want.
• 13:20
  Okay. Yeah.
• 13:21
  Yeah. No, liberation, please. This is a safe space, a safe
• 13:25
  room. Justin's not even here.
• 13:28
  He's nodding over there, yes, you can swear. Okay.
• 13:30
  Yeah.
• 13:30
  Okay, great.
• 13:32
  Yeah. Gosh. Well,
• 13:36
  I think in business, for sure,
• 13:38
  I like your spirit of entrepreneurship. I love it.
• 13:42
  I love building. I love the creating.
• 13:44
  Mm-hmm.
• 13:45
  I love the act of bringing something from nothing, and then
• 13:49
  watching it grow like a plant-
• 13:51
  Yes
• 13:51
  ... and just have fruit, and the... I don't know. I love the whole thing.
• 13:56
  Yeah. It-
• 13:56
  It lights me up
• 13:57
  ... it really does.
• 13:58
  Yeah.
• 13:59
  Yeah. Business is one, it's definitely not for
• 14:03
  everyone.
• 14:04
  Mm-mm.
• 14:05
  And I try to stay totally in the positive of it, but I think
• 14:09
  that out of all the businesses I've done, Happy Whole You is the
• 14:13
  one that just feels so good. I'm
• 14:16
  so optimistic.
• 14:18
  It's just, of course, it's working.
• 14:23
  Of course-
• 14:23
  Yeah
• 14:23
  ... it's super successful. I don't know.
• 14:25
  I don't have that doubt in me with that one, where it's like-
• 14:30
  Yeah
• 14:30
  ... when I've done other businesses or invested in other people's businesses, I'm
• 14:33
  like, "Ooh, okay. Well, we lost some money on that one," and
• 14:37
  you know. But it was like every fiber of my being was like-
• 14:41
  Yeah
• 14:41
  ... "Yes." And when I first opened,
• 14:44
  people were like, "Wait, what are you doing?" "Wait,
• 14:48
  what?"
• 14:48
  Mm-hmm.
• 14:48
  "You have a wellness center in Bakersfield?
• 14:51
  It's conservative." And I would tell people to go earth and ground themselves
• 14:54
  and let the sunshine hit their skin, and all these things, and it was
• 14:58
  like, "Huh?" And now it's totally normal.
• 15:01
  I've actually had two clients that have
• 15:04
  opened up buildings and opened up businesses just like mine.
• 15:07
  Aw, that's awesome.
• 15:08
  I know. I'm like, bring more wellness.
• 15:09
  I love that you can celebrate that too-
• 15:11
  Yes
• 15:11
  ... because that's how I feel.
• 15:13
  Yes.
• 15:13
  I'm going to celebrate it and then collaborate-
• 15:16
  Mm-hmm
• 15:16
  ... not feel like, "Oh, that's competition."
• 15:18
  Yeah. I agree.
• 15:20
  No, I want to help everyone.
• 15:21
  You know what's funny about competition? So I was an athlete.
• 15:24
  I was a D1 athlete. And so as an athlete, it's
• 15:28
  like for me to win, someone has to lose.
• 15:31
  And I-
• 15:31
  Interesting
• 15:32
  ... thought that way for a very, very long time,
• 15:35
  and as I've gotten older and started collaborating and working
• 15:39
  in different businesses and stuff,
• 15:42
  I would find myself retracting and feeling like, "Oh my gosh, is this going to
• 15:46
  work?" Or-
• 15:47
  Mm
• 15:47
  ... there's not enough business to go around, and having that
• 15:52
  fearful mindset that-
• 15:53
  Mm-hmm
• 15:53
  ... things aren't abundant.
• 15:55
  Yeah.
• 15:56
  And I'll never forget, I was with my husband, and we were flying over the
• 15:59
  grapevine.
• 16:01
  And I was looking down, and we
• 16:05
  had just crossed over to above Santa Clarita and over there.
• 16:08
  Mm-hmm.
• 16:09
  And I saw all these houses, like house after house
• 16:13
  after house after house after house.
• 16:14
  And I was having a little pity party for myself- ...
• 16:16
  because my business was not going well at the time.
• 16:19
  Yeah.
• 16:19
  I had just opened, and I'm like, "What?
• 16:21
  I took my life savings to open this place," and-
• 16:24
  You're doing math.
• 16:25
  I'm just like- ... girl math.
• 16:28
  And meanwhile, I was still working a full-time job.
• 16:31
  Mm-hmm.
• 16:32
  And
• 16:33
  something hit me, and it was like, there's so much business for everyone.
• 16:37
  There's so much. And I literally shifted out of that
• 16:42
  competitive mindset into-
• 16:43
  Mm-hmm
• 16:43
  ... the collaborative mindset.
• 16:45
  Yeah.
• 16:45
  And the moment you shift into that and realize there is enough
• 16:49
  for everyone-
• 16:50
  Mm-hmm
• 16:51
  ... it sets you free. And even if someone opens a
• 16:55
  business just like yours-
• 16:57
  Mm-hmm
• 16:57
  ... literally-
• 16:58
  Cookie cutter
• 16:59
  ... one of my client... Literally, she bought pretty much
• 17:03
  every single device I have, the exact same brand, everything, opened it.
• 17:07
  And what is interesting is it's like if you are
• 17:11
  being true to your authentic self,
• 17:14
  she's going to do great-
• 17:15
  Mm-hmm
• 17:16
  ... if she stays true to her authentic self, and I'm going to do great if I stay
• 17:19
  true to mine because we're not for everyone.
• 17:21
  No.
• 17:21
  Right?
• 17:22
  Yeah.
• 17:22
  So I fully understand-
• 17:23
  Yeah
• 17:24
  ... some of my woo-woo that people are like, "Wait, what?" And I'm like, "Well,
• 17:27
  it's really not woo-woo. It's actually neuroscience and epigenetics and-
• 17:30
  Yeah
• 17:30
  ... neuroplasticity," but whatever.
• 17:32
  Yeah.
• 17:32
  If I'm not for you, there's other people, which is-
• 17:36
  Yeah
• 17:36
  ... really great.
• 17:37
  Mm-hmm.
• 17:38
  But I do think that we're brought up in a culture that's like, for me
• 17:41
  to win, you have to lose, and I'm realizing-
• 17:44
  That's not true
• 17:45
  ... it's so not true-
• 17:48
  Right?
• 17:48
  ... on so many levels.
• 17:50
  Oh, yeah.
• 17:50
  And I love discovering that.
• 17:51
  I hope people hear that.
• 17:53
  Yeah.
• 17:54
  And it's not like we're giving trophies to everybody, okay?
• 17:57
  Yeah.
• 17:57
  That's not what we're saying.
• 17:59
  Right.
• 17:59
  We're just saying that you can collaborate because it's like you've just created
• 18:02
  synergy. You can just-
• 18:04
  Mm-hmm
• 18:04
  ... tenfold. You can compound interest, your effort.
• 18:07
  Why wouldn't you?
• 18:08
  Mm-hmm.
• 18:08
  I don't want to work harder. I'd rather like, let's just do this together-
• 18:12
  Yes
• 18:12
  ... get more likes together-
• 18:14
  Yes
• 18:14
  ... because it's just hard already.
• 18:17
  Yeah. I think collaboration is just so important.
• 18:22
  And another thing that I've really
• 18:26
  witnessed is,
• 18:28
  so there's women that
• 18:31
  sayYou know, I support other women. I'm here for other women.
• 18:35
  Oh, that means I don't support women.
• 18:37
  Oh, well, I'm going to say their-
• 18:38
  Unless, are you saying that?
• 18:39
  Well, I'm saying, I'm going to say their name in a
• 18:43
  room when they're not there, and I'm saying
• 18:46
  that we can want that for ourselves-
• 18:49
  Mm-hmm
• 18:49
  ... and we can want that for other women, but if you're still coming from a
• 18:53
  place of lack and scarcity,
• 18:55
  you're not going to fully
• 18:58
  do that.
• 18:59
  Mm-hmm.
• 18:59
  And what I realized is I used to be like that.
• 19:03
  I used to-
• 19:04
  Same
• 19:04
  ... I'm for other women, and I really was, but then at the same time, I was like,
• 19:08
  "Wait, but what about me?"
• 19:09
  Mm-hmm.
• 19:10
  And so the moment I started shifting that, and it's like, what
• 19:13
  about us?
• 19:14
  Mm-hmm.
• 19:15
  I don't know. There was
• 19:17
  a fiber of me that-
• 19:19
  Mm-hmm
• 19:19
  ... was saying it, but I wasn't fully living it like I am now.
• 19:22
  Yeah.
• 19:23
  And it's really freeing when you
• 19:26
  actually step into, I'm good no matter what.
• 19:30
  Mm-hmm.
• 19:30
  Right?
• 19:31
  Yeah.
• 19:32
  You get to be a thousand times successful.
• 19:33
  Mm-hmm.
• 19:34
  I get to be a thousand times successful, and your success doesn't mean I don't
• 19:37
  get success.
• 19:38
  Right.
• 19:39
  And
• 19:40
  the thing is, until I started up-leveling the circles
• 19:44
  that I'm in-
• 19:45
  Mm-hmm
• 19:45
  ... and the people that I choose to work with-
• 19:47
  Ooh, that's good
• 19:48
  ... it really taught me because I have some pretty powerful
• 19:52
  women out in the world right now that are like, "Yeah, do you know about Dr.
• 19:55
  Anna Marie?" And I'm just like, "Oh, my gosh." Like, I-
• 19:57
  Isn't it weird whenever somebody gives a shout-out, and it's like, wait, what, did
• 20:01
  you-
• 20:01
  I know. I'm like-
• 20:02
  Wait, what?
• 20:03
  ... you have
• 20:04
  hundreds of thousands of followers, and you care about me.
• 20:08
  Like, I feel so special.
• 20:09
  I love that.
• 20:09
  But I care about her, too. You know?
• 20:11
  Of course. You're just doing your thing and being you-
• 20:13
  Yes
• 20:14
  ... as you would with anybody.
• 20:15
  And again, I think that's the key. I think when we are being
• 20:19
  who we are-
• 20:20
  Mm-hmm
• 20:21
  ... and we're doing what we love-
• 20:24
  Yeah
• 20:25
  ... competition isn't even there.
• 20:27
  It's different games. It's like a different field.
• 20:30
  It's a totally different field. In the quantum field, it is such an elevated
• 20:34
  experience-
• 20:35
  Yeah
• 20:35
  ... and a way of being and a vibration that we exude-
• 20:38
  Yeah
• 20:39
  ... that people are like, "Wait, what?"
• 20:42
  Yeah.
• 20:42
  It's so fun to play in that.
• 20:44
  Yeah.
• 20:45
  I love it.
• 20:45
  I agree.
• 20:46
  I don't know if that made sense for anyone, but...
• 20:49
  It resonated with me, I can tell you that.
• 20:51
  And I think if it just reaches one person
• 20:55
  in the podcast, that's really how I see it.
• 20:59
  Something that might be so small to me-
• 21:02
  Mm-hmm
• 21:02
  ... is pivotal or life-changing for somebody else, and I'm like-
• 21:05
  Right
• 21:05
  ... "Okay, well, you're welcome."
• 21:08
  And then also, me sitting in this chair, I learn from other people, you
• 21:12
  know?
• 21:13
  Yes.
• 21:13
  I don't know it all. I'm showing up. I'm just here ready to learn.
• 21:17
  Mm-hmm.
• 21:17
  I'm a cog in this gigantic wheel of life, and
• 21:21
  I just want us to do better because right now, I feel like I give it
• 21:25
  like a C or a D-
• 21:27
  Mm
• 21:27
  ... in medicine. I'm just like, I wanted to have all the answers by the
• 21:31
  time I was done. And then I just am like this emoji, like
• 21:36
  you know?
• 21:37
  Like, what?
• 21:38
  With a ponytail, and I'm just like, I just
• 21:41
  really expected us to be more advanced.
• 21:44
  Mm-hmm.
• 21:44
  And there's just this belief in medicine to heal,
• 21:48
  and
• 21:49
  we can fix everything, but we're in our own
• 21:53
  way.
• 21:54
  Mm-hmm.
• 21:54
  I think the standard of care, there's the desire
• 21:58
  to have it or to raise it, but the way to get there,
• 22:02
  with all of the evidence-based language-
• 22:05
  Mm-hmm
• 22:06
  ... we almost need to chop it up.
• 22:08
  Yeah.
• 22:09
  We almost are-- It's 10 to 20 years to put
• 22:12
  something onto the market, yet, okay, side note-
• 22:16
  Mm-hmm
• 22:16
  ... the vaccines, okay, that was like-
• 22:18
  Oh
• 22:18
  ... a whole thing. I'm not even going to go there.
• 22:20
  Yeah.
• 22:21
  But it takes billions of dollars,
• 22:24
  double-digit millions, to just put anything out.
• 22:27
  I'm sorry, how many things are we really going to advance at that-
• 22:31
  Yeah
• 22:31
  ... price?
• 22:32
  Right. And stuff that goes out, I think it
• 22:35
  takes
• 22:37
  5.2 years for something to be recalled when it's not working, and
• 22:41
  the damage is already done in terms of pharmaceuticals.
• 22:44
  It's probably phase four then, right? Because then we are the test subjects.
• 22:48
  We are.
• 22:48
  We just don't say that-
• 22:50
  Yes
• 22:50
  ... it's a phase four.
• 22:51
  Well, and I think that's why it's called practicing medicine, right?
• 22:53
  It's like all a practice. And-
• 22:54
  That's funny
• 22:55
  ... I did a talk earlier about how we're all making s**t up.
• 22:58
  Mm-hmm.
• 22:58
  Like, literally, we're all making it up.
• 23:00
  Like,
• 23:01
  everything, the good, the bad, we're all making it up.
• 23:04
  But, I-
• 23:06
  Our story is all the same because we all went to the same schools.
• 23:08
  Oh my gosh. The stories. Yes. I come from
• 23:13
  the OG of medicine, and that's herbal
• 23:17
  medicine.
• 23:18
  Okay.
• 23:18
  And
• 23:20
  the medicine that I've studied is the original.
• 23:23
  Western medicine has been around
• 23:27
  since 1890 to, I want to say
• 23:31
  1910 was when it was really coming to the forefront in this
• 23:34
  country. And before that, our universities used to be
• 23:38
  called colleges, and they did Native American
• 23:42
  practices. They did herbs. They did stuff on nutrition.
• 23:45
  These things that would really work on the whole person.
• 23:48
  Mm-hmm.
• 23:49
  And then it wasn't until the Rockefellers and the Carnegie
• 23:52
  Foundations paid this gentleman with the last name of
• 23:56
  Flexner to go around and try to
• 23:59
  streamline all these medical schools,
• 24:03
  and the reason they wanted to do that
• 24:06
  is because they started with the petrochemical industry.
• 24:09
  They started to be able to make synthetic drugs and synthetics-
• 24:12
  Oh
• 24:12
  ... of medicine. And so we live in a
• 24:15
  capitalist country-
• 24:17
  Mm-hmm
• 24:17
  ... and they saw an opportunity. And so then
• 24:21
  slowlyAnd people listening, I don't want to bore you with the story, but you can
• 24:25
  look into the Flexner Report and all that stuff.
• 24:27
  But what it did is it took out a lot of that holistic
• 24:31
  health out of the practices, and then you
• 24:35
  look at how insurance companies and medicine has been since the
• 24:39
  '80s and how everything has been so
• 24:43
  destructive. For a doctor to have only five to seven minutes with a
• 24:47
  patient-
• 24:48
  Yeah
• 24:48
  ... is wild. And I don't believe anyone gets into medicine-
• 24:52
  Mm-hmm
• 24:52
  ... thinking, "Oh, I just want to spend five or 10 minutes and send them on their
• 24:55
  way," but it's like their hands are tied.
• 24:57
  Mm-hmm.
• 24:58
  And to really meet doctors that are owned by some of these
• 25:03
  big conglomerate and quote unquote "nonprofit hospitals" and-
• 25:06
  Mm-hmm
• 25:07
  ... you have to follow this standard of care-
• 25:09
  Yeah
• 25:09
  ... versus like what happened to listening to the patient?
• 25:12
  Yeah, we don't have time.
• 25:13
  What happened to looking at their tongue and looking at their face and-
• 25:16
  Mm-mm
• 25:17
  ... checking their pulse with your hand?
• 25:19
  This is some of the stuff that-
• 25:21
  Wait, touch them? I'm just kidding.
• 25:23
  I know, right? Touch them, huh?
• 25:25
  So when I work with clients, obviously in this
• 25:28
  country, I'm not practicing medicine, I'm not diagnosing, I'm not prescribing, but
• 25:32
  what I'm doing is I'm using my knowledge based on Chinese
• 25:36
  medicine, based on holistic health to see what physical observations has the
• 25:40
  body given me. You give me someone who sticks their tongue out and lets it hang
• 25:43
  out, and they can't even relax it, I guarantee you they have anxiety, their nervous
• 25:47
  system is offline, and their adrenals are screaming.
• 25:51
  I do tongue analysis.
• 25:52
  You do?
• 25:52
  I do.
• 25:53
  Thank you.
• 25:53
  I take a picture of it-
• 25:55
  Yes
• 25:55
  ... and it's in their charts.
• 25:56
  Oh my gosh.
• 25:56
  I want to see if you bite your tongue.
• 25:58
  Yes.
• 25:58
  I want to see if you have a smooth, glossy tongue.
• 26:01
  Or a coating.
• 26:02
  Ridges. Yeah, a coating.
• 26:04
  Yeah. We call the ridges, we call those scalloping.
• 26:06
  Mm-hmm.
• 26:07
  Yes.
• 26:08
  It's part of your intake.
• 26:10
  That- Oh my God, yes. That is so important
• 26:14
  because the body is giving us these small little signals over time.
• 26:17
  Yeah.
• 26:17
  And if we don't listen to it, the body's going to speak to us louder-
• 26:21
  Yeah
• 26:21
  ... and louder and louder.
• 26:22
  Yeah.
• 26:23
  And these are subtleties that the body's saying, "I need a slight change, please."
• 26:27
  Yeah.
• 26:27
  But we no longer know how to decode it.
• 26:30
  No. We're not even looking.
• 26:31
  Oh my gosh, not even looking.
• 26:33
  Oh my gosh. It's wild.
• 26:35
  Mm-hmm.
• 26:36
  Yeah.
• 26:36
  Yeah. And I think it's kind of fun for patients.
• 26:37
  I'm like, "Send me a selfie with your tongue out."
• 26:39
  Yeah.
• 26:40
  They're like, "Are you kidding?"
• 26:41
  Oh my gosh.
• 26:42
  I'm like, "I'm not."
• 26:43
  Yeah. It's so good.
• 26:46
  Yeah.
• 26:46
  Someone's tongue can say a lot about their health.
• 26:48
  Yes.
• 26:49
  A lot about their health.
• 26:50
  Mine had kind of a grayish
• 26:53
  hue before I started all of the, I would say,
• 26:57
  changes with functional medicine.
• 26:59
  Were you having digestive issues, too?
• 27:00
  Yeah.
• 27:01
  Uh-huh. Yeah.
• 27:02
  Yeah.
• 27:02
  Uh-huh.
• 27:02
  And it was like a little candidal overgrowth.
• 27:05
  Mm-hmm.
• 27:05
  So that just requires a lot of changes.
• 27:07
  Yeah.
• 27:08
  So I was just like, "Ugh."
• 27:09
  And that can lead to you feeling a little anxious-
• 27:12
  Mm-hmm
• 27:12
  ... and uneasy.
• 27:13
  Yep.
• 27:14
  Yeah.
• 27:15
  So you guys, don't send your tongue pictures to all
• 27:19
  doctors, but you can definitely send it to us.
• 27:21
  Yeah.
• 27:22
  You're going to get-
• 27:22
  We'll check it out
• 27:23
  ... some info back.
• 27:24
  Yeah. Oh my gosh, I love that. So good.
• 27:28
  Have you ever done iridology, looking at the eyes?
• 27:30
  No, but I want to get into it, but I-
• 27:33
  It's so interesting
• 27:33
  ... haven't.
• 27:34
  I really just-
• 27:35
  Tell me more
• 27:36
  ... so I really just scratched the surface, but some
• 27:39
  iridologists go really deep into the layers of the eyes.
• 27:42
  But just for example, most people that
• 27:46
  have a blue iris, so they call it blue lymphatic
• 27:49
  iris-
• 27:50
  Mm-hmm
• 27:50
  ... these people are going to tend to have issues with their skin, their lymphatic
• 27:53
  system.
• 27:54
  Hmm.
• 27:56
  They're going to have issues with their sinuses.
• 27:58
  Okay.
• 27:59
  I
• 28:01
  did this
• 28:03
  free sessions for kids a couple weeks ago at the center,
• 28:06
  and I just would look at their eyes, and based on their eye type, I'd say, "Okay,
• 28:10
  these are some tendencies the kid could go towards."
• 28:13
  Mm-hmm.
• 28:13
  So knowing that they have a tendency to go towards that with their constitution of
• 28:16
  how they were born-
• 28:17
  Mm-hmm
• 28:17
  ... we want to support those areas sooner-
• 28:20
  Yeah
• 28:20
  ... rather than later.
• 28:21
  Yeah.
• 28:22
  So just getting some insight, right?
• 28:24
  Right.
• 28:25
  Because as you know, as a doctor, two people can be exposed to the
• 28:29
  very same chemical-
• 28:30
  Yeah
• 28:30
  ... two people can be exposed to mold, two people can be exposed to the same thing,
• 28:34
  but their bodies react differently.
• 28:36
  That is a conversation that I have actually all the time.
• 28:39
  I tell patients, "We need to work on your resiliency to your
• 28:43
  environment. Your environment's not changing."
• 28:46
  Right. Yeah.
• 28:46
  You can't get rid of your kids. You can't get rid of
• 28:49
  the air. You can't just do these-
• 28:52
  Yeah
• 28:52
  ... dramatic... You can't be Bubble Boy.
• 28:55
  Mm-hmm.
• 28:56
  So what do you do? You have to fix your resiliency so that you're basically
• 29:00
  like a rat in a-
• 29:02
  Right
• 29:02
  ... apocalypse. You can handle any environment.
• 29:05
  Oh my gosh. Yes. I love that.
• 29:06
  Yeah.
• 29:06
  Yeah. So someone with that type of iris,
• 29:10
  because they could have more lung issues too with that blue lymphatic
• 29:14
  iris, you want to do dry brushing or
• 29:18
  use a lymphatic shake board. You know how you stand on those vibration plates?
• 29:20
  Oh yeah, totally.
• 29:21
  That'd totally help them-
• 29:22
  Yeah
• 29:22
  ... even more.
• 29:22
  Or a little trampoline.
• 29:23
  Yes. Or a little-
• 29:24
  Which is fun
• 29:25
  ... a little bit of local honey every day to help with the allergies.
• 29:29
  Oh, it's delicious.
• 29:29
  Using a neti pot because your sinuses can tend to flare up.
• 29:34
  Again, these are just little simple tricks because you're absolutely right.
• 29:38
  Our environment is our environment, but how we show up in our environment, we can
• 29:42
  make slight changes that'll make a big difference with our health over time.
• 29:45
  Yeah. It just is crazy how some people side by side are
• 29:49
  fine.
• 29:49
  Mm-hmm.
• 29:50
  They're totally fine. They're running outside.
• 29:53
  Meanwhile,
• 29:55
  me, if I take a little jog around the block, oh my God.
• 29:59
  Yeah.
• 29:59
  My eyes are stingy- ... and I'm just like, "This environment's killing me."
• 30:03
  Yeah.
• 30:04
  So yeah.
• 30:05
  Yeah.
• 30:05
  Fixing that and getting a more robust immune health,
• 30:09
  which to me goes back to gut health-
• 30:12
  Mm-hmm
• 30:12
  ... which goes back to bone health.
• 30:14
  Mm-hmm.
• 30:14
  So those things, they take a little bit.
• 30:17
  Yeah. Yeah, and what's interesting about the bones is
• 30:21
  people think calcium and vitamin D-
• 30:24
  Yeah
• 30:24
  ... but our bones are made up of so many minerals.
• 30:27
  Yes.
• 30:27
  So if you're not getting those minerals-Then,
• 30:32
  yeah, your bones are not good.
• 30:33
  Mm-hmm.
• 30:33
  Then your gut is not good.
• 30:35
  Mm-hmm.
• 30:35
  And then your brain is not good.
• 30:37
  Mm-hmm.
• 30:37
  Because your gut and your brain talk, and to get those minerals, you need to
• 30:41
  be eating fruits and vegetables and nuts and-
• 30:44
  Yeah
• 30:44
  ... seeds and beans and all of these
• 30:48
  nutrient-dense foods.
• 30:50
  Mm-hmm.
• 30:50
  And we're not eating them.
• 30:51
  Yeah. We're not.
• 30:53
  So yeah, so I love that. That's so good.
• 30:55
  Mm-hmm. And then I do believe that the body is smart, and
• 30:59
  there's robbers and there's things, and I'm equating it
• 31:03
  to robbers because-
• 31:04
  Mm-hmm
• 31:04
  ... if you're not putting the nutrients in, it's stealing from another
• 31:08
  source-
• 31:09
  Correct
• 31:09
  ... or site, whether it's stealing from your bone, from your brain, it's stealing.
• 31:13
  Mm-hmm.
• 31:13
  So if you're like, "Oh, I felt fine, and I neglected myself for a decade,"
• 31:18
  you're actually not going to be well in the next decade.
• 31:20
  Yeah.
• 31:20
  You just gave up time, really.
• 31:23
  Yes.
• 31:23
  It's not like you're not winning.
• 31:25
  Yeah. And I can see that on people's faces.
• 31:28
  Yeah.
• 31:28
  There's different decades in Chinese medicine that, like with the face, and then if
• 31:32
  you have these deficiencies, it will show up in your next decade.
• 31:36
  I love that you say that.
• 31:37
  Right? Like here.
• 31:39
  And yeah, so this is your 20s, 30s.
• 31:42
  Ooh.
• 31:44
  30s are right in here.
• 31:47
  Oh, my.
• 31:47
  And then your 40s are in there, but then your 50s are above your lip, and your
• 31:51
  60s and 70s are down here.
• 31:53
  Yeah. It's pretty interesting.
• 31:55
  Oh my gosh.
• 31:56
  Mm-hmm.
• 31:56
  Wow.
• 31:58
  But yeah. I was going to say something. What was I going to say?
• 32:03
  It was about stealing?
• 32:05
  Yes, thank you. Oh my gosh.
• 32:07
  I saw your thought bubble.
• 32:08
  Yes, I love that. So women-
• 32:11
  Mm-hmm
• 32:12
  ... who have had babies,
• 32:14
  who have had multiple babies, who had breastfed, I can't
• 32:18
  tell you how many women come and see me and they're like, "Oh, my
• 32:22
  hormones are messed up, and da, da, da, da, da." And I'm like, "Oh, how many kids
• 32:26
  do you have?" And then, "Oh, let's look at your nervous system." And
• 32:29
  the reality, if we go to the root, root, root, root, root, they
• 32:33
  are deficient in so much. I'm like,
• 32:36
  who ever told us after we had a baby or while we had a baby to
• 32:40
  replenish all the nutrients that we just literally gave to a whole another
• 32:44
  human?
• 32:44
  Mm-hmm.
• 32:45
  We're not replenishing after we have children, like we should.
• 32:48
  Yeah, there's no change.
• 32:49
  Mm-mm.
• 32:49
  It's just existing-
• 32:51
  Existing in exhaustion
• 32:52
  ... in survival. Yeah.
• 32:53
  In survival, yeah.
• 32:55
  Same.
• 32:56
  Oh my gosh.
• 32:57
  Yeah.
• 32:58
  Yeah. It is interesting. But the body is
• 33:02
  so resilient, which is what I love.
• 33:04
  Mm-hmm.
• 33:05
  But we have to
• 33:07
  show up and take care of it-
• 33:09
  Yeah
• 33:09
  ... in the ways that actually move the needle.
• 33:12
  Yeah.
• 33:12
  And one of the biggest ways that we move the needle with our
• 33:16
  health is not
• 33:19
  the food we eat, is not exercising-
• 33:21
  Mm-mm
• 33:21
  ... it's actually how we are thinking and speaking about our lives.
• 33:25
  Yeah.
• 33:25
  And
• 33:27
  when I learned that you can change your
• 33:30
  biochemistry in 150 to 300 milliseconds by shifting the
• 33:34
  thought alone,
• 33:36
  I'm like,
• 33:38
  "Wait, what?"
• 33:39
  That's pretty wild.
• 33:40
  Yeah.
• 33:41
  You know what I mean? So-
• 33:41
  I haven't heard that.
• 33:43
  Yeah. So it's like the thoughts we have, the words we speak,
• 33:47
  carry these vibrational frequencies that instruct our cells.
• 33:50
  That's the
• 33:52
  first and foremost.
• 33:54
  I too believe that. You just gave me chills. That is so right.
• 33:57
  Sound therapy, the hertz-
• 33:59
  Mm-hmm
• 33:59
  ... matters. There's healing hertz.
• 34:01
  Yes.
• 34:02
  H-E-R-T-Z.
• 34:03
  Yes. Oh my gosh. I just got done doing a talk for a women's group before I
• 34:07
  came here, and it was all about our
• 34:11
  thoughts and Dr. Emoto's work about water having
• 34:15
  consciousness and-
• 34:16
  Mm-hmm
• 34:17
  ... ultimately our bodies are 60% water or more.
• 34:20
  Mm-hmm.
• 34:20
  And there's research that backs, like if you think negative thoughts, how
• 34:24
  that water freezes in a chaotic form if you're directing those negative thoughts
• 34:28
  towards the water.
• 34:29
  Isn't that insane?
• 34:30
  Oh, it-
• 34:30
  Or the music played.
• 34:32
  Yes.
• 34:32
  It gives different images.
• 34:34
  Yes.
• 34:34
  Yeah.
• 34:34
  It's so wild. So it's super exciting to me
• 34:38
  because I think often we're led to believe that
• 34:42
  we're doomed by our genetics when the reality is-
• 34:46
  Small category
• 34:47
  ... small category.
• 34:49
  Yeah.
• 34:49
  Epigenetics, the environment which you put your genes in, is-
• 34:52
  Mm-hmm
• 34:52
  ... everything.
• 34:53
  Yep.
• 34:54
  Everything. So yeah, I mean, that's exciting I feel like, because-
• 34:57
  It is
• 34:58
  ... we have more control over our biology than what we think.
• 35:00
  Oh, we totally do.
• 35:01
  Mm-hmm.
• 35:01
  We totally do. And so just walking into ownership of that, I think is
• 35:05
  our next step.
• 35:07
  Yes.
• 35:07
  And the next, next step is, or probably maybe the step before that,
• 35:12
  you guys decide, but just deciding, "I don't actually
• 35:15
  know what healthy is. Let's just shred this and
• 35:19
  start fresh."
• 35:20
  Mm.
• 35:21
  Let's just hit this reset button, unplug it from the
• 35:25
  wall, pretend like you know nothing, because if you're walking in
• 35:29
  saying, "I eat healthy, I live really clean,
• 35:32
  blah, blah, blah," you're in here-
• 35:35
  Mm-hmm
• 35:35
  ... because you're not feeling great.
• 35:38
  Right.
• 35:38
  So your plan has failed.
• 35:39
  Mm-hmm.
• 35:40
  Yeah.
• 35:41
  Your plan failed, and that's why you're here. So now what?
• 35:43
  Mm-hmm.
• 35:44
  So if you're going to just
• 35:46
  bottle it into, "I'm healthy and I do..."
• 35:50
  You are doing what you think is healthy, but it's not working.
• 35:54
  Right. Yes.
• 35:54
  So reframing.
• 35:56
  Yes. I love that. I was the person that
• 35:59
  in my early 20s, I was exercising like crazy.
• 36:02
  Yeah.
• 36:02
  I'd be like, "Just exercise. It'll solve all your problems." Yeah, easy to say when
• 36:06
  you're in early 20s, you haven't had babies yet and all the stress.
• 36:09
  And then after having children, I was like, "Oh, I got to really work
• 36:13
  on this nutrition thing."
• 36:15
  Yeah.
• 36:15
  And so in my 30s, I was eating healthy and
• 36:19
  exercising, but I still wasn't fully okay, and it wasn't until I
• 36:22
  started working on my mindset-
• 36:25
  Mm-hmm
• 36:26
  ... that my biology and physiology actually started to
• 36:30
  changeDramatically.
• 36:32
  Interesting.
• 36:33
  And so I think that when it comes to healing, we have to start with the
• 36:37
  mind first.
• 36:38
  Yep.
• 36:39
  And from there build.
• 36:41
  Yeah.
• 36:42
  That's just my two cents, because that's what I've
• 36:46
  come across.
• 36:48
  Yeah.
• 36:48
  Because I'll have the men and the women that are doing the CrossFit, that are
• 36:53
  eating super clean, getting their protein in, and all those things, and they're in
• 36:57
  front of me, and they're freaking having anxiety attacks.
• 36:59
  They're depressed, their hormones-
• 37:01
  Yeah
• 37:01
  ... all over the place. They're not okay. They have muscle.
• 37:05
  They look like they should be thriving,
• 37:09
  and they are literally suffering.
• 37:11
  That is hard.
• 37:12
  It's wild.
• 37:13
  Yeah.
• 37:13
  Mm-hmm.
• 37:14
  But it's not, I think, in their scenario, because they
• 37:18
  do have the muscle mass, I think they're almost easier, in my opinion,
• 37:22
  to course-correct, because-
• 37:24
  Oh
• 37:24
  ... the muscle is like life. There's just so much health that
• 37:28
  comes from having muscle.
• 37:30
  Mm-hmm.
• 37:30
  So if they were just like a skinny-
• 37:34
  Right
• 37:34
  ... that would be more challenging.
• 37:36
  Yeah. Totally.
• 37:37
  Right?
• 37:37
  Yeah. It definitely is
• 37:41
  a lot easier and results much
• 37:44
  quicker when someone comes in, they are eating well, and they
• 37:48
  are lifting weights, because that's so important.
• 37:50
  Mm-hmm.
• 37:51
  And they do have those two dialed in.
• 37:54
  Yeah.
• 37:54
  So I'm like, "Oh, this is fun. We just work on that mindset and rewiring the
• 37:58
  brain, and like-
• 38:00
  Yeah
• 38:00
  ... you're going to be golden."
• 38:01
  Yeah.
• 38:02
  And it's great. But most people, when are we ever
• 38:05
  taught to think about how we think?
• 38:08
  Oh, never.
• 38:09
  Never.
• 38:10
  Never.
• 38:11
  We are never.
• 38:12
  We're taught what to think.
• 38:14
  Correct.
• 38:14
  That's it.
• 38:15
  That's it.
• 38:16
  Like a little soldier.
• 38:17
  Uh-huh. Yeah.
• 38:18
  That's why I'm trying to be-
• 38:20
  Follow the line
• 38:20
  ... a black sheep.
• 38:22
  Because I'm like, "No."
• 38:24
  Yes.
• 38:24
  You-
• 38:25
  It's so good.
• 38:26
  Yeah.
• 38:26
  Yeah. So yeah. It's the mind, I feel like,
• 38:31
  and that's my jam when I work with people is like we get to go to
• 38:35
  the mind, and not a lot of people want to go there.
• 38:38
  Yeah. What do you think... So you're a naturopathic doctor?
• 38:41
  Mm-hmm.
• 38:42
  Okay. What do you think is a space that we
• 38:46
  perhaps in our classic training diverge?
• 38:50
  Because functional medicine-wise, we definitely align.
• 38:54
  But the formal training, not like me and you as like personal, like
• 38:58
  whatever, but the formal training.
• 39:01
  Because it's interesting to hear
• 39:04
  patients that have gone to a naturopathic doctor, so they'll
• 39:09
  verbalize what they've been told, with like energy, grounding,
• 39:13
  all the stuff.
• 39:13
  Mm-hmm.
• 39:14
  But on my side, I can validate it with like
• 39:18
  drawing out electrons.
• 39:19
  Mm-hmm.
• 39:19
  I mean, truly, like-
• 39:20
  Yeah
• 39:21
  ... it's interesting just the language.
• 39:23
  It's physics.
• 39:24
  It's physics.
• 39:24
  Yeah.
• 39:24
  It's slightly different language, but I think there's just so
• 39:28
  much there that is completely aligned and
• 39:32
  proper.
• 39:32
  Mm-hmm.
• 39:33
  But I don't know where the spaces differ, if you know of them.
• 39:36
  Well, I think you've educated yourself
• 39:40
  on the whole person and the biology
• 39:43
  beyond
• 39:45
  your basic training.
• 39:47
  Mm-hmm.
• 39:47
  I'm trained as a traditional naturopath, so
• 39:51
  I've studied Chinese medicine. I've studied energy medicine, Ayurvedic
• 39:55
  medicine.
• 39:58
  I've master herbalist, so I've studied herbs and how they interact with the body.
• 40:02
  I do a lot with plant stem cells. So not human stem cells, but plant
• 40:06
  stem cells.
• 40:07
  Yeah.
• 40:08
  And at the end of the day, everything is
• 40:12
  energy.
• 40:13
  Mm-hmm.
• 40:14
  And so I think from the Western standpoint, we're constantly
• 40:18
  trying to go to the physical,
• 40:20
  and we're constantly going to,
• 40:24
  "This hurts, so fix that thing." Whereas-
• 40:27
  Symptom treatment
• 40:28
  ... correct. So I think holistically, we're looking at
• 40:32
  the energy of not just
• 40:35
  the symptoms, but we're looking at the energetics of the entire
• 40:39
  biofield, and the entire-
• 40:40
  Like mitochondria?
• 40:42
  Well, see,
• 40:43
  so I'm talking about
• 40:45
  beyond the mitochondria. I'm talking about the biofield.
• 40:49
  Okay.
• 40:50
  This auric field that, like our fields are
• 40:53
  very intertwined right now, and this is-
• 40:55
  Yeah
• 40:56
  ... in the quantum field.
• 40:57
  I believe in the orb, is what I describe it as-
• 40:59
  Yes
• 41:00
  ... which is very non-medical, but-
• 41:01
  Yes
• 41:01
  ... it's an orb.
• 41:02
  But it's physics. It's these-
• 41:04
  Yeah
• 41:04
  ... invisible electrons, protons, like all this energy.
• 41:08
  Because honestly, if we
• 41:11
  look at a cell under a microscope-
• 41:14
  Yeah
• 41:14
  ... and we keep peeling back the layers of that cell-
• 41:17
  Yeah
• 41:17
  ... when you get to the end,
• 41:19
  all there is is energy.
• 41:21
  Yep.
• 41:22
  Right?
• 41:23
  Yeah.
• 41:23
  So the mitochondria, what's it creating? ATP.
• 41:26
  Yeah.
• 41:26
  It's creating energy.
• 41:27
  Yeah.
• 41:27
  That energy, you cannot pick up, you cannot grab it.
• 41:31
  Right.
• 41:31
  It is literally energy. So if we're going into every cell till we can't go any
• 41:34
  further, the only thing that's left is energy, meaning we are more
• 41:37
  energy than we are physical matter, and the physical matter isn't even
• 41:41
  real.
• 41:42
  Mm-hmm.
• 41:42
  It's just denser because it's vibrating-
• 41:45
  Uh-huh
• 41:45
  ...
• 41:46
  so fast.
• 41:47
  Right.
• 41:48
  And so when we're looking at healing the body, like this
• 41:52
  is where like reiki work and the fact that our hands are
• 41:55
  electromagnetic, and our hands can heal.
• 42:00
  Think about it. When you fall down and you bump your knee, what's the first
• 42:04
  thing instinctually you do? You grab it with your hands, right?
• 42:08
  Yeah.
• 42:08
  You hit your face. Oh, you touch it with your hands.
• 42:10
  Yeah.
• 42:11
  Our hands are so powerful.
• 42:13
  I never thought of that.
• 42:14
  Yeah. It's a natural human instinct to hold it,
• 42:19
  to touch it when it hurts, and when it's like you've fallen.
• 42:23
  Okay.
• 42:24
  And so,
• 42:27
  like earlier, when I was giving that talk, okay, I actually had a doctor that
• 42:30
  volunteered, so this is great.
• 42:32
  So new doctor in town, she was hearing the talk that I was giving
• 42:36
  todayAnd I had her volunteer. She came up,
• 42:40
  stood in front of the group. So this is a group of 25 women,
• 42:45
  and I said, "Okay.
• 42:47
  There's two words, 'love' and 'hate.'
• 42:50
  All I want you to do is, I'm going to hold up the number one if I
• 42:54
  want you to only think the word love,
• 42:59
  and I want you to only think the word hate when I hold
• 43:03
  up the number two." And the gal, this doctor, she doesn't know if I'm holding up
• 43:06
  one or two.
• 43:07
  Mm-hmm.
• 43:08
  I get a baseline check. I have her put her arm straight out, and I say, "I'm going
• 43:11
  to push your arm down. Resist me."
• 43:14
  Mm-hmm.
• 43:14
  So she does that. She resists me, and I can't push her arm down.
• 43:18
  So then I have everyone in the audience thinking
• 43:23
  the word hate. So they're just thinking it.
• 43:25
  We're not saying it, they're just thinking it. And I say, "Okay, put your arm out.
• 43:29
  I'm going to push down on your arm again." And I go to push on her arm, and her arm
• 43:33
  is wavering up and down, like she can't keep it straight.
• 43:36
  And she's like, "Okay, that's weird." I'm like, "Okay." And then I hold
• 43:40
  up the number one. I'm like, "Okay, everyone, you're going to think..." I don't say
• 43:42
  it out loud, but they're all thinking the word love. And then I'm like, "Okay.
• 43:46
  Please put your arm back out. I'm going to push on your arm again." And she's back
• 43:50
  to being super strong.
• 43:51
  Wow.
• 43:53
  This is because our consciousness, our ability to
• 43:57
  even think the word love, and you know, we talked about sound therapy earlier.
• 44:00
  Yeah.
• 44:00
  If you have love played, that vibration played in
• 44:04
  hertz, because hertz is a very specific, I think it's 528 hertz is love-
• 44:08
  Yeah
• 44:09
  ... then you can feel that. You can see it move in sand, and it
• 44:13
  creates a beautiful formation. You can see in Dr.
• 44:15
  Emoto's work, love-
• 44:16
  It's symmetrical.
• 44:18
  Correct. Yes. It's symmetrical. It creates, if you freeze
• 44:22
  water-
• 44:22
  Like rounded edges.
• 44:23
  Mm-hmm. You freeze water, and you put it under a microscope that, and
• 44:27
  you've been telling that water, "Love, love, love," it freezes in a beautiful
• 44:30
  crystal formation.
• 44:31
  Oh my gosh.
• 44:33
  Now you do that to water and you tell it, "Hate," it
• 44:36
  freezes in a chaotic formation.
• 44:38
  Oh.
• 44:38
  You tell it, "Fear," it freezes in chaotic formation.
• 44:41
  And your body, the physical body, that's really energy,
• 44:45
  is 60% or more water.
• 44:47
  Yes.
• 44:47
  What do you think those thoughts are doing to your body?
• 44:50
  But again, it's not just the body, it's the field.
• 44:52
  Mm-hmm.
• 44:53
  So how is it that everyone's consciousness, them thinking one word or
• 44:57
  another,
• 44:59
  caused this woman's physiology, her body, to get
• 45:03
  weaker?
• 45:03
  That's crazy.
• 45:04
  So to say that-
• 45:06
  I believe it
• 45:06
  ... this isn't real-
• 45:08
  Yeah
• 45:08
  ... I mean, that's fine, you can think that. I don't care.
• 45:10
  I know how the quantum field works.
• 45:12
  That's why I've been able-
• 45:13
  Yeah
• 45:13
  ... to call in all the success I've had.
• 45:15
  Yeah.
• 45:15
  That's why I've been able to heal my brain from when I was 22.
• 45:18
  Yeah.
• 45:19
  Be able to fix-
• 45:19
  Like I've healed my brain too
• 45:20
  ... my hormones.
• 45:21
  Yeah.
• 45:21
  Oh my gosh. There's so much I've been able to do-
• 45:24
  Yeah
• 45:24
  ... when I've gone to Western doctors and they're like, "Oh, no, nope."
• 45:28
  And I've seen it with my clients.
• 45:30
  Yeah.
• 45:30
  I mean, I've had clients that have had instantaneous healing, and it's
• 45:34
  like, where's the science behind that?
• 45:36
  You really need science when they're right fricking in front of you?
• 45:39
  I mean, we've been using subjective feedback to diagnose people-
• 45:42
  It'll be 20 years
• 45:42
  ... with mental illness forever.
• 45:44
  Let's just give it 20 years-
• 45:45
  Oh my gosh
• 45:45
  ... and you have a few extra millions or-
• 45:47
  Yeah
• 45:47
  ... billions, and then you'll have science.
• 45:49
  Right. Well, what's funny-
• 45:50
  But then it's self-funded, but then it's like-
• 45:52
  And it's a rat race. But I think it's
• 45:55
  fascinating when it's like, well, where's the science? Where's the papers?
• 45:59
  But when it comes to mental health, we will prescribe, and we
• 46:03
  have zero way of measuring brain chemistry.
• 46:07
  The brain is the only organ in the body a doctor will prescribe or medicate, and
• 46:10
  they've never scanned it or looked at it.
• 46:12
  Yeah.
• 46:12
  Which is pretty wild.
• 46:14
  Mm-hmm.
• 46:14
  So why when it comes to the brain and mental health-
• 46:17
  Mm-hmm
• 46:17
  ... are we blindfolded throwing darts at the wall-
• 46:19
  Yeah
• 46:19
  ... and you're not asking for more science, you're not asking for more
• 46:24
  than just subjective feedback?
• 46:25
  Yeah.
• 46:25
  And I'm saying this because I was 22, 23 years old, highly
• 46:29
  medicated by a psychiatrist-
• 46:31
  Mm-hmm
• 46:31
  ... and I wanted to take my own life.
• 46:32
  And it was that whole environment and that time of my
• 46:36
  life when I finally woke up, and I was like, "I've got to heal myself."
• 46:40
  Mm-hmm.
• 46:40
  Because otherwise-
• 46:41
  No one's coming to save you.
• 46:42
  No one. Uh-uh. Ain't no one coming to save me.
• 46:45
  No one's coming.
• 46:46
  There's no amount of Xanax and-
• 46:48
  No.
• 46:49
  Yeah.
• 46:49
  And then you have to wait for your refills.
• 46:51
  Yeah. Oh, right? And then you want to see me again. And then, oh, I can't put...
• 46:55
  I was on three mind-altering medications.
• 46:56
  They couldn't even write them all on the same script.
• 46:58
  I literally had three different prescriptions.
• 47:01
  And it's like, and I was 22, 23 years old.
• 47:03
  My brain wasn't-
• 47:03
  Yeah
• 47:03
  ... even fully developed.
• 47:05
  Yeah.
• 47:05
  This is literally-
• 47:06
  That's wild
• 47:06
  ... this doctor just talked to me for 15 or 20 minutes,
• 47:10
  and by the way, this is
• 47:13
  20 years ago. So I know there's been some wonderful things that have changed, like-
• 47:17
  No, it's just as bad
• 47:18
  ... but it's just as bad. Yeah.
• 47:19
  It's literally just... No, it's probably worse because now we have
• 47:23
  more in the population-
• 47:25
  More meds
• 47:26
  ... more meds-
• 47:26
  Oh my gosh
• 47:26
  ... and more people.
• 47:27
  Yeah. I mean-
• 47:28
  And fewer doctors, I feel like.
• 47:29
  Yeah. So it's like, I don't know. Yeah.
• 47:33
  I love when Western doctors
• 47:37
  and holistic health practitioners like myself can actually come together, and it's
• 47:41
  not one or the other, and it's like, okay, there is a time and
• 47:45
  place for medicine, 1,000%.
• 47:48
  Mm-hmm.
• 47:48
  And medicine has come such a long way with emergency care and all of that.
• 47:52
  Yeah.
• 47:52
  But let's not be so fricking delusional-
• 47:56
  Yep
• 47:56
  ... to think that a medication is going to heal anyone.
• 47:59
  Medications keep you
• 48:02
  alive. They keep you-
• 48:03
  Yeah
• 48:03
  ... sick.
• 48:04
  Yeah.
• 48:04
  And you know-
• 48:06
  They're good for business
• 48:07
  ... they're great for business.
• 48:08
  They're so lucrative-
• 48:09
  Yes
• 48:09
  ... to be sick.
• 48:10
  And there are some medications that keep people alive, or else they wouldn't be.
• 48:13
  Like, I-
• 48:14
  Yeah
• 48:14
  ... I fully get that.
• 48:15
  Yeah.
• 48:15
  But
• 48:17
  the pendulum has swung so far-
• 48:19
  Mm-hmm
• 48:19
  ... that people think like, oh, like for me, we don't take insurance.
• 48:23
  Mm-hmm.
• 48:24
  Like, no.
• 48:24
  Same. Yeah.
• 48:25
  So it's like, well, if my insurance doesn't pay for it, then I
• 48:29
  can't afford it, or I can't do it. And it's like, we're so brainwashed to
• 48:33
  think that. I'm sitting here today, I don't have medical insurance.
• 48:36
  Yeah.
• 48:37
  I pay for an emergency plan, and I pay cash for everything.
• 48:41
  Yeah, same.
• 48:41
  Because otherwise my family would be spending-
• 48:43
  Oh, I have bronze.
• 48:44
  Yeah.
• 48:44
  It's the lowest option.
• 48:45
  My family would be spending $30,000 a year on sick
• 48:49
  insurance. I'm like, "Let me save that $30,000 and put
• 48:53
  it in some investments and make some money." And heaven forbid, if we do have an
• 48:57
  emergency-
• 48:58
  Yeah
• 48:58
  ... then you know what? I have an emergency group that I'm a part
• 49:02
  of and-
• 49:03
  Right
• 49:03
  ... whatever. But if I have to pay out of pocket, it's
• 49:08
  so criminal what's happening right now.
• 49:10
  Yeah.
• 49:10
  And then I'll get people that come and see me, and they've been on all these
• 49:13
  medications. They're so jacked up.
• 49:15
  And then it's like I'm working with them, and within 30 days, they're getting
• 49:19
  better, and they're going back to their doctor to try to get off these medications.
• 49:23
  And then the doctor's like, "Well," and they're nervous to take them off these
• 49:27
  medications because they're never trained to take them off.
• 49:29
  Yeah.
• 49:30
  Especially mental health medications.
• 49:32
  Right.
• 49:33
  So it's like, I don't know. I
• 49:36
  feel like there's no simple answer, but I think having
• 49:40
  these conversations-
• 49:41
  Yeah
• 49:41
  ... and being open to the fact that it's not just one way-
• 49:45
  Mm-mm
• 49:45
  ... is really important.
• 49:47
  Yeah, definitely. And I know there's definitely a barrier that
• 49:50
  exists as a naturopathic. So as you're changing
• 49:54
  somebody's life and they're desperate, they're showing up, they're like, "I'm
• 49:57
  trying. I'm ready
• 50:00
  to just do whatever it takes to fix it." So in a sense, they're in a vulnerable
• 50:04
  state. And then it's like they've tried the whole
• 50:08
  algorithm. They've been to Cedars.
• 50:10
  They've been-
• 50:11
  Yeah
• 50:11
  ... to the specialist of the specialist, and they've done it, and then there's
• 50:15
  still no answers.
• 50:16
  Yeah.
• 50:16
  They're still not better. And then at least
• 50:19
  there's people out there that are like, "I'm ready and willing to help you.
• 50:23
  Tell me what you've done." And I'm one of them.
• 50:25
  Mm-hmm.
• 50:26
  And I am outside of the box because I'm like,
• 50:30
  "Well, I know what you've gone through already, so now let's try these other
• 50:33
  things." But it's not without resistance from
• 50:37
  primary care-
• 50:38
  Mm-hmm
• 50:38
  ... which is where I started. So as a naturopathic, I would imagine you also
• 50:42
  experience that because it's like there is an elitist
• 50:45
  mindset with the boards-
• 50:48
  Mm-hmm
• 50:48
  ... and with what we believe that we know.
• 50:51
  So it's hard out there.
• 50:53
  Yeah. It really is. I have so many stories of
• 50:58
  clients, and
• 51:01
  I think
• 51:03
  it's just bringing awareness that there are practitioners
• 51:07
  that are going to take the time with you, that are going-
• 51:09
  Yeah
• 51:09
  ... to sit down with you, that are truly wanting you to heal.
• 51:13
  Yeah.
• 51:14
  And sometimes that's going to cost you money out of your pocket.
• 51:17
  Yep.
• 51:18
  And I'm not saying other doctors don't want that.
• 51:20
  They
• 51:22
  don't have the capacity to do that.
• 51:25
  Yeah.
• 51:25
  And they're owned.
• 51:27
  Yeah.
• 51:27
  They
• 51:29
  don't have freedom to practice.
• 51:32
  Yeah.
• 51:32
  They are owned by an institution-
• 51:34
  Yeah
• 51:34
  ... that is telling them how they need to show up, what they need to prescribe-
• 51:38
  Mm-hmm
• 51:38
  ... in what order.
• 51:39
  Yeah.
• 51:40
  And unfortunately-
• 51:42
  Otherwise, then it's malpractice.
• 51:44
  Uh-huh.
• 51:44
  And then it's a vulnerable space.
• 51:46
  Mm-hmm.
• 51:46
  So it's leveraged. Your whole life is
• 51:50
  leveraged against you-
• 51:52
  Yeah
• 51:52
  ... essentially, and that is freaking scary.
• 51:54
  Oh, yeah. It's really
• 51:59
  an unfortunate situation that we're in.
• 52:01
  Yeah.
• 52:02
  And it's pretty wild.
• 52:05
  In Chinese medicine,
• 52:07
  so is there a similar board that you have to
• 52:11
  answer to and that guide the treatment
• 52:15
  plans?
• 52:16
  Well, we don't treat people, remember that.
• 52:19
  Oh, but the language.
• 52:20
  So we just help people-
• 52:22
  Okay
• 52:22
  ... they get to heal themselves and restore their foundations of health.
• 52:25
  Okay.
• 52:25
  So we don't treat, and we don't prescribe-
• 52:28
  I like that
• 52:28
  ... and we don't diagnose, because otherwise, that steps into medical and we-
• 52:31
  We own those words.
• 52:33
  Correct. You-
• 52:33
  They're words that we actually bought.
• 52:35
  No, you really did. And you want to know what other word you bought?
• 52:38
  Please tell. I love it.
• 52:39
  You bought the word anxiety. So-
• 52:41
  Ugh
• 52:41
  ... I can help people with symptoms of anxiety.
• 52:44
  Yeah.
• 52:44
  But I'm not going to cure your anxiety.
• 52:47
  I use the term dysregulation of the nervous system.
• 52:50
  Mm-hmm.
• 52:50
  I don't like depression or anxiety.
• 52:52
  Yeah.
• 52:52
  I know that those are medical diagnosis codes. They're ICD-10s.
• 52:55
  Yeah.
• 52:55
  I get it.
• 52:56
  But those are also side effects of something else.
• 52:58
  Yes.
• 52:59
  So what's crazy is people are getting these diagnosis, and
• 53:02
  diagnosis-
• 53:03
  Yeah
• 53:03
  ... from my understanding, used to be like, what's the root problem?
• 53:07
  Yeah.
• 53:07
  What's the real cause?
• 53:08
  Yeah.
• 53:08
  Well, the depression isn't the real issue.
• 53:11
  Yeah.
• 53:11
  It's underneath that.
• 53:13
  Yeah.
• 53:14
  Depression is just a side effect-
• 53:16
  Right
• 53:16
  ... of
• 53:17
  microbiome being screwed up or different things going on in the
• 53:21
  body.
• 53:21
  Yeah.
• 53:22
  And so I do find that interesting, that-
• 53:24
  That is very interesting.
• 53:25
  Yeah. But to go back to your question, so
• 53:30
  there's
• 53:31
  really not.
• 53:33
  Mm-hmm.
• 53:34
  And
• 53:35
  I have a board certification from the National Wellness
• 53:40
  Institute certification.
• 53:41
  Okay.
• 53:42
  Or a board certification. So I had to go in, and after I did my PhD,
• 53:46
  I took this test and did some case studies and
• 53:50
  sent in a bunch of stuff, and they looked over.
• 53:52
  They did these calls with me, and then so I just had a
• 53:56
  designation of that-
• 53:58
  Okay. Yeah
• 53:58
  ... given to me.
• 53:59
  Yeah.
• 54:01
  But there's best practices that we're supposed to go by, but
• 54:05
  again, because we're putting the healing back in the
• 54:09
  hands of our clients-
• 54:10
  Mm-hmm
• 54:12
  ...
• 54:13
  you're your own doctor.
• 54:15
  Yeah. That is really my mindset.
• 54:18
  Yeah.
• 54:18
  That's very much how I feel like I'm the Siri of medicine.
• 54:21
  I'm going to just tell you the definitions-
• 54:23
  Mm-hmm
• 54:24
  ... and if you bring things to me, I'm going to read it and then help interpret
• 54:27
  it. But I'm not the God of who
• 54:31
  decides for you.
• 54:33
  Yeah.
• 54:33
  I don't use the languageLike you can't heal or this is
• 54:37
  your sentence that-
• 54:39
  Mm-hmm
• 54:39
  ... you can't ever fix this.
• 54:41
  Yeah.
• 54:41
  Now it might be you can fix this and it's going to cost you a lot, right?
• 54:45
  Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
• 54:45
  It might be a money situation.
• 54:47
  Yeah.
• 54:47
  But I do believe like most things you can
• 54:52
  heal from.
• 54:53
  Yes. God made our bodies amazing.
• 54:56
  Mm-hmm.
• 54:56
  And every organ system,
• 54:58
  if you get ahead of it, has the mechanisms to heal.
• 55:03
  And it's just like how soon are you going to wake up to the fact that you need to
• 55:06
  put your body in the right environment so it can heal?
• 55:08
  Mm-hmm.
• 55:09
  Some of us, we wait way too long.
• 55:11
  Yes.
• 55:12
  And so there does become a point of no return.
• 55:16
  However, miracles happen every day.
• 55:19
  Yeah.
• 55:19
  And there are people that have been told this, that, and the other thing, and they
• 55:23
  heal themselves.
• 55:24
  Yeah.
• 55:24
  So we don't get to play God.
• 55:26
  Right.
• 55:26
  God has definitely made an incredible body.
• 55:31
  Yeah.
• 55:31
  We just
• 55:32
  get in the way.
• 55:33
  Yeah, we do.
• 55:34
  We so get in the way.
• 55:36
  Yeah.
• 55:37
  And so I think that that's just
• 55:41
  our problem. We have this addiction to being right.
• 55:44
  We have this addiction-
• 55:45
  Ooh. We do
• 55:46
  ... to being the one, to being the savior.
• 55:50
  Maybe I'm addicted.
• 55:50
  You know?
• 55:50
  Yeah.
• 55:51
  Yeah.
• 55:52
  Of course, we
• 55:54
  get so excited to help people and save people and-
• 55:57
  Yeah
• 55:57
  ... but really,
• 55:58
  the way I look at it is,
• 56:01
  one, I had to save myself. We can only save ourselves.
• 56:04
  Mm-hmm.
• 56:04
  And once we save ourselves,
• 56:06
  we get to show up and provide space to remind people they get to save themselves,
• 56:10
  too.
• 56:11
  That's hope.
• 56:12
  It really is, and it's beautiful.
• 56:14
  It's like here's some hope.
• 56:15
  Yes.
• 56:15
  Because it's like people have given up hope.
• 56:18
  Yeah. And what's interesting about hope
• 56:22
  is I know that there's been some studies done on prognosis.
• 56:26
  So if a doctor gives you a prognosis and you believe it,
• 56:31
  you will live out that prognosis.
• 56:34
  The ones that get the prognosis that are like, "Screw this.
• 56:37
  That's not for me," they will usually outlive the
• 56:40
  prognosis.
• 56:41
  Oh, wow.
• 56:42
  Or if they don't get a prognosis, then they have no idea.
• 56:45
  So we know placebo works 30% of the time.
• 56:49
  It's powerful. Yeah.
• 56:49
  Let's let it work for us.
• 56:51
  Yeah. Use that to your advantage.
• 56:53
  Exactly.
• 56:54
  Yeah.
• 56:55
  Yeah. So,
• 56:57
  yeah, it's
• 56:59
  definitely
• 57:01
  an interesting time that we live in.
• 57:03
  Yeah.
• 57:03
  Because we're being told how to think.
• 57:07
  We're being told what's accepted.
• 57:10
  We're being told to look the other way when we ask questions and we think.
• 57:14
  Just like
• 57:18
  COVID thing, I don't want to open that can of worms, but like-
• 57:21
  Yeah
• 57:21
  ...
• 57:23
  I looked at that and thought, "That's weird to me." Like, "This
• 57:27
  isn't what's happening."
• 57:28
  Yeah.
• 57:28
  And I was just questioning it. Whatever anyone else decided to do, that's
• 57:32
  fine.
• 57:32
  Mm-hmm.
• 57:33
  But for me and my children, I was like, "We're just not going to
• 57:37
  play." Like, "That is not going to be something we do."
• 57:40
  Mm-hmm.
• 57:41
  And then as a business owner, having a government
• 57:45
  tell me when I live in America that I need to close my business, like-
• 57:48
  That made it strange.
• 57:49
  Okay, that's another red flag, right?
• 57:51
  Yeah.
• 57:51
  It's like the abusive boyfriend.
• 57:53
  Yeah.
• 57:53
  And there's all these red flags, and we're trying to look the other way.
• 57:57
  And it's like then we look back and we're like, "Oh, damn." Like, "Why didn't you
• 58:00
  see that?" I feel that for so many of us.
• 58:03
  Yeah.
• 58:03
  Like, why didn't we see? Are you serious?
• 58:06
  Yeah.
• 58:06
  Your government wants to, "Close your business. Don't go outside." Like really?
• 58:10
  Outside was closed?
• 58:11
  How am I going to pay my bills?
• 58:12
  Yeah. The whole thing.
• 58:14
  Yeah.
• 58:14
  The whole thing. Stay six feet away. Wear one mask. Wear two masks.
• 58:18
  I'm like-
• 58:19
  I like the six feet was decided
• 58:20
  ... my gosh.
• 58:20
  It was decided six feet.
• 58:21
  Six feet.
• 58:22
  Yeah.
• 58:23
  Yeah. Oh my gosh. So, yeah. So if you want to talk about-
• 58:26
  Moments
• 58:26
  ... science, come on.
• 58:28
  I know. I know.
• 58:28
  Where did six feet come from?
• 58:29
  Hey, on a side note, the first word that makes you Michigan is flag.
• 58:34
  Is it?
• 58:34
  Yeah.
• 58:34
  Oh.
• 58:34
  I didn't catch any other Michigan.
• 58:36
  Oh. I know it does get beaten out of me a little bit.
• 58:39
  When I go back
• 58:40
  home, it will come out a little bit more when I'm back here.
• 58:44
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 58:44
  But then when I'm home, they'll be like, "Yeah, you have that little California-"
• 58:48
  Yeah. It's kind of fun.
• 58:49
  My Florida comes out sometimes.
• 58:51
  Yeah.
• 58:51
  But I also feel kind of neutral.
• 58:54
  Yeah. How long have you been here now?
• 58:55
  About 10, 11 years.
• 58:58
  Yeah.
• 58:59
  Yeah, it's been a minute.
• 59:01
  Yeah. I've been just over 20, so it's kind of-
• 59:03
  Oh my gosh.
• 59:04
  I know.
• 59:04
  You look way too young for that.
• 59:06
  Wow. Thank you.
• 59:06
  I can't even imagine. You're 29.
• 59:08
  Oh my gosh. Yeah.
• 59:09
  So it's just shocking.
• 59:10
  Hello. I was a baby when I showed up in Cali.
• 59:14
  Before we wrap up, I just wanted to just throw out there as a quick,
• 59:19
  I don't know, comment or question.
• 59:21
  So bioregulators, I love them. I think they are just so
• 59:25
  under-talked about.
• 59:27
  Mm-hmm.
• 59:27
  And so if you have a thyroid issue, take thyroid extract.
• 59:30
  If you have-
• 59:31
  Mm-hmm
• 59:31
  ... adrenal issues, take adrenal extract. Take the extracts.
• 59:35
  Mm-hmm.
• 59:36
  These things are directly from the organs. I believe in them.
• 59:39
  They're powerful. They're healing. They're whole.
• 59:41
  And I feel like that can restore the organ's dysfunction.
• 59:45
  Yeah.
• 59:47
  What are your thoughts?
• 59:48
  I think yes. I think that there's a lot of power behind that, and it
• 59:52
  kind of reminds me of homeopathy-
• 59:55
  Mm-hmm
• 59:55
  ... where it's like heals like.
• 59:57
  That's exactly it.
• 59:58
  And it's-
• 59:58
  Yes
• 59:59
  ... same thing.
• 1:00:00
  But it has to be a sex dependent, right?
• 1:00:01
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:00:02
  Like a female-like cell is...
• 1:00:06
  So you'd have to have, and you're a female, then you have to take the same sex
• 1:00:10
  organ.
• 1:00:10
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:00:11
  And our supplements, to my knowledge, they don't identify that.
• 1:00:14
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:00:14
  So that's where it's a little complicated.
• 1:00:16
  Correct. Yeah. I
• 1:00:19
  haven't dove into that arena. I use a lot of plant stem
• 1:00:23
  cells.
• 1:00:23
  Okay.
• 1:00:24
  So I use undifferentiated cells coming from plants that can
• 1:00:28
  target the thyroid, and they target different areas of the body.
• 1:00:32
  But the like healing like is really, that
• 1:00:36
  goes back to homeopathy.
• 1:00:38
  Ooh.
• 1:00:38
  And there's a lot of-... healing that happens
• 1:00:42
  with that. So I've had clients that have used those, and they get great
• 1:00:45
  results.
• 1:00:46
  Awesome.
• 1:00:46
  And again, I think it goes back to you get to find what works for you.
• 1:00:50
  Yeah.
• 1:00:50
  And one of the layers that I would put on top of that, because I always go back to
• 1:00:54
  the brain and the emotions and the body-
• 1:00:56
  Mm-hmm
• 1:00:56
  ...
• 1:00:57
  is someone with a thyroid issue,
• 1:01:00
  often it can be that your thyroid is all about, this is your throat chakra, so
• 1:01:03
  it's all about-
• 1:01:04
  Oh, yeah
• 1:01:05
  ... you speaking your truth, feeling like you're being heard.
• 1:01:08
  Yeah.
• 1:01:08
  And if you've really silenced yourself or maybe
• 1:01:12
  you've been in a relationship where someone is walking all over you and you're not
• 1:01:16
  speaking up for yourself, or
• 1:01:19
  you tend to just fly off the handlebars.
• 1:01:21
  You're having a really hard time communicating.
• 1:01:23
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:01:24
  You either go from one extreme or the other.
• 1:01:25
  People that have issues communicating usually have thyroid issues.
• 1:01:29
  Interesting.
• 1:01:30
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:01:30
  Because they're just holding their energy restricted right here.
• 1:01:33
  In their throat. Yes. And those are your vocal cords.
• 1:01:35
  I believe that. Oh, my gosh.
• 1:01:37
  Yeah. So any physical ailment that someone's having-
• 1:01:41
  Mm-hmm
• 1:01:42
  ... you can tie it back to some type of emotional
• 1:01:45
  blockage going on within the body.
• 1:01:48
  Do I sound restricted?
• 1:01:49
  You've got to yell in a microphone-- or not in a microphone, in a pillow.
• 1:01:53
  Okay.
• 1:01:53
  Letting yourself just literally be heard.
• 1:01:56
  And so many women have this, right?
• 1:01:58
  Yeah.
• 1:01:59
  Be pretty but don't be heard. Be quiet.
• 1:02:02
  Yeah.
• 1:02:02
  Sit over there and, like-
• 1:02:04
  Yeah
• 1:02:05
  ... oh, who are you to say something? I don't know.
• 1:02:08
  There's a lot of generational stuff around women and-
• 1:02:11
  Suppressing
• 1:02:12
  ... suppressing, you know? Be-
• 1:02:13
  Emotion over years.
• 1:02:14
  Yeah. Be successful, but not too successful.
• 1:02:17
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:02:18
  You know? And then-
• 1:02:19
  That's a good one.
• 1:02:19
  Yeah. And you can dive into a lot of dark stuff that have happened to us as women,
• 1:02:22
  and we are silent.
• 1:02:25
  Yeah.
• 1:02:25
  And that manifests in the body, and usually it manifests in the throat, and it
• 1:02:28
  manifests in the thyroid. We can get nodules, all these things happening.
• 1:02:32
  So in your opinion, that can heal.
• 1:02:36
  1,000%. I'll give you a-
• 1:02:38
  Same
• 1:02:38
  ... quick-
• 1:02:39
  Let's hear
• 1:02:39
  ... story.
• 1:02:40
  Yes.
• 1:02:41
  And this isn't even using any nutraceuticals or anything.
• 1:02:44
  I was working with this woman
• 1:02:46
  remotely, and she had been in a
• 1:02:49
  marriage of abuse, like psychological abuse,
• 1:02:54
  for decades. She kept getting nodule after nodule
• 1:02:58
  on her thyroid, and she felt
• 1:03:02
  paralyzed to tell her husband that she was leaving him and that
• 1:03:06
  she was moving on. Like, paralyzed.
• 1:03:08
  I think I worked with her for over a year and
• 1:03:12
  a half-
• 1:03:13
  Mm-hmm
• 1:03:13
  ... and I finally told her, "We keep having the same
• 1:03:17
  conversation.
• 1:03:20
  I can't keep working with you."
• 1:03:23
  Wow.
• 1:03:23
  "You show up and you want to do these things," and da, da, da.
• 1:03:26
  Anyways,
• 1:03:27
  she finally spoke up for herself,
• 1:03:30
  and she finally was walking away and doing the thing that...
• 1:03:34
  And it felt paralyzing to do it.
• 1:03:36
  Totally, because then she probably still loved the person-
• 1:03:39
  Uh-huh
• 1:03:39
  ... but hated the relationship and the actions that-
• 1:03:42
  Mm-hmm. Yeah
• 1:03:44
  ... yeah, so it's conflicting.
• 1:03:45
  Yeah. So a year later, she doesn't have any thyroid issues.
• 1:03:48
  Pretty wild. So I don't know what science you use to back that other
• 1:03:52
  than like-
• 1:03:53
  Well, it's not-
• 1:03:54
  It's just what it is.
• 1:03:55
  Yes. I take it at face value, and I think that is adequate.
• 1:03:59
  I love that.
• 1:04:00
  Yeah.
• 1:04:00
  Well, thank you so much for sharing your time and your
• 1:04:04
  energy-
• 1:04:05
  Yeah
• 1:04:05
  ... and all of your information, expertise, and stories.
• 1:04:08
  I absolutely enjoyed it. I would love to do this again.
• 1:04:12
  Yeah, same. Thank you.
• 1:04:13
  Yeah. All right, guys. Until next time.