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- 0:00Laced up let's go
- 0:13Yo, yo yo
- 0:15Welcome back to banter with the boys gridiron updates divisional weekend
- 0:20Yeah, I'm down and out of it
- 0:22Vikings are done
- 0:24Chargers are done. I was gonna call in sick today, but here I am
- 0:28So we also have Rob here with us, of course, and I'm just as sad as you too. It's he was gonna call on sick
- 0:34We were gonna play hooky together, but we're just gonna move on to the draft
- 0:38Yeah, the draft and what the Vikings offseason looks like which is also gonna be either a home run or not. So
- 0:47DeAngel welcome back our resident lines back man still in the playoffs the line
- 0:51Yeah, a little bi-week action, you know, resting up the boys Montgomery and be back next week. I'm you're ready
- 0:56You feel right? Yeah
- 0:58I feel like I honestly
- 1:01Would have taken the bucks to play next week
- 1:04I mean this weekend over the commanders cuz oh my god Jay and he he's in his bag right now
- 1:10I give you a little issues. Yeah and Terry scary Terry too. So I mean it'll be a good game though
- 1:16We'll win cuz that offense will be different. We'll get into it. Yeah
- 1:19No, yeah, definitely Jake to my Larry left whatever Jake told you I'm out of it screw this but
- 1:29What's going on a resident Ravens fan, yeah, I'm glad to be back
- 1:35Rip Vikings. Yeah rip. I got my flag as you can see is it upside down?
- 1:42Well, it's just disappointing it is
- 1:45But
- 1:48Yeah, they looked really good against the Steelers we'll definitely talk about that and have a really good matchup against the Bills coming up
- 1:57Sunday really good matchup about all the MVPs, huh? Yeah
- 2:01That might be the game for MVP
- 2:05They don't take playoffs into consideration
- 2:11We all know the shield is gonna shield
- 2:14Yeah, for sure. All right, and obviously don't forget kev behind the screen. They're making everything happen for us. Welcome back
- 2:22Just getting back from va va k so
- 2:26Yeah, somewhere tan actually we did mention it last week how tan he was. Yeah now he's no longer as tan because it's negative for today
- 2:33so
- 2:35Automatically if you're tan at all in Minnesota and it's negative for you immediately lose the tan
- 2:39Anyway, sure. Anyway, let's just move on. That's right. Ah, let's get to these game recaps kev just like that
- 2:59And
- 3:00our game recaps reminder that the two number one seeds the Chiefs and the Detroit Lions
- 3:07Excuse me, both those names for some reason get me had the buys
- 3:11So the first game of the week poor chargers traveling to the Houston Texans where actually I believe most of the banter crew
- 3:20Other than two people took the chargers by the way, you never got me your picks
- 3:25You never got me your picks. Oh, who would you do? I had the I had the Texans on my part. Oh, yeah
- 3:39No, obviously, I thought the Chargers would at least show up a little bit more, but it just got away from him late in the game
- 3:45They're the picks from Herbert. I mean just I don't understand trying to force too much
- 3:51Yeah, Texas even they didn't establish a running game really at all
- 3:54So they just put pin their ears back and just got I after I'm in a couple tip balls
- 3:58I once they all the picks are Herbert's fault. Yeah to went through receivers hand. Yeah
- 4:05But I still feel like the Texans had that game even with the little bit of our play
- 4:10But that was the Texans defense that we saw like mid to late season that like, you know
- 4:15You figured would carry the Texans through the playoffs and then they kind of stumbled there a little bit towards end of the season
- 4:20That's what made me choose the Chargers
- 4:22Yeah, I was gonna be biased too. But yeah, like true
- 4:25I was nervous about whether or not that defense would actually show up and now it's like okay now that
- 4:32now that
- 4:33Texans chiefs game is interesting. Yeah, you know, that's not a given now for the chiefs. So
- 4:39Yeah, just all in all
- 4:42First year out of Harbaugh, you know, like, you know, for sure and he got him back in the playoff
- 4:47Yeah, so
- 4:48How's off to him? So they've seen a running back and I think that team will you know, their defense is pretty solid
- 4:54They got some nice cornerstones on there with Mac and both on the side James in the back Mac's considering retirement
- 5:01Yeah came out today. Yeah
- 5:04But like, you know, of course, like you said who knows like right like it could be a couple months
- 5:09Like we're sad about possibly Harrison Smith of the Vikes, right?
- 5:12But who knows two three months from now your body sealed up a little bit. You know, yeah, maybe one more year. Yeah
- 5:18I'd like to I don't mean your bad news two days in a row
- 5:23But
- 5:25Yeah, no, you're right. And the funny part is is we kept saying like how Dobbins like they got to have Dobbins to fix this
- 5:31Offense I gotta have them they gotta have them and they just they had them. Yeah, they didn't make a difference this week
- 5:36I don't think he was fully healthy back from that
- 5:38Probably not
- 5:41He was like I'm gonna play even if I'm at 80% and they still ran Gus Edwards seven times
- 5:46Yeah, so that kind of shows you that he wasn't fully back
- 5:49Oh the Texans had Al Shireb finally back from that that suspension suspension. Yeah, he makes a big difference
- 5:54Yeah
- 5:56Bunch of speed and toughness to that defense. Yeah, and then obviously the two pass rushers. It's just the defense is actually scary. So
- 6:03Good luck Patrick Mahomes
- 6:05Mixed for a hundred Nico ad over a hondo, you know, those are the two guys if they get rolling then that tax of defense
- 6:13Watch out chiefs fans. Yeah, no doubt. No possible upset lurking. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it
- 6:20All right next game. We got we've got oh, this is Jake's game
- 6:26The Steelers traveling to Baltimore the Steelers almost sneaking away with this, right? No
- 6:32They definitely met a freight train
- 6:34of
- 6:36Running back. Well really of Derek Henry
- 6:39Yeah, just just steamrolled them. But yeah, the Steelers defense didn't come to play given up almost 300 yards
- 6:46Yeah, that was turn the watch zero stats zero zero stats, correct? That's right. Wow. He didn't record anything. Nada
- 6:54I even assist he's a game changer. Yeah
- 6:57Yeah, no, let me confirm because it's right in front of me. Yeah, no
- 7:00Yeah, there was I think there were some concerns or questions about how the Ravens offense was going to change or work without
- 7:07Zay flowers playing and the rest of like both the tight ends so likely Andrews
- 7:14Bateman skima. Yeah, yeah, they they they all showed up
- 7:19And Lamar got the ball around some seven different receivers catching a ball
- 7:22And then you just like give it to Derek Henry and let him let him go to town
- 7:26And you're still letting Lamar run for another 81 yards
- 7:29I was
- 7:30Yeah, I think he ran it a little too many times 15 carries
- 7:35Because one of those tackles he got a knee in the back and he was definitely favoring his back for a while
- 7:40during the rest of that game, but I
- 7:43Think he'll well, he'll be good. But definitely again looking forward to
- 7:47Going to Buffalo facing the Bills. I think it's gonna be cold and
- 7:52Physical and it's gonna be a great game
- 7:54All right, typical AFC North matchup. Yeah, you know
- 8:00What's Vikings play next year? Fy? Yeah great
- 8:13FC North and then NFC West like yeah east. Yeah, thank you
- 8:19Yeah that game I predict it was 31 10. I thought it was gonna be a blowout
- 8:22it was almost there was 21 nothing at half and
- 8:27Steelers couldn't establish any running game and then you just putting it on Russell Wilson. That's not a success
- 8:32Yeah, and then the Ravens responding back like right away after they gave up after the Steelers got their first touchdown
- 8:39With a with their own fast was what six plays and they just ran down the field
- 8:45So they were they were there and ready for it
- 8:48No, the Baltimore Ravens are so overpowered right now. I mean, it's it's gonna be so tough to stop them
- 8:54Yeah, and I agree again. We'll touch on those games
- 8:57We can dive into those matchups because they're gonna be so crazy this weekend
- 9:01But yeah Ravens get in the dub Russell Wilson though for the Steelers does say he wants to return
- 9:06Is that something Pittsburgh should entertain or should they just give it to?
- 9:10Fields or come get Sam Darn. I mean he might be available. That is true
- 9:14Yeah, I don't think if I'm or do they get a mic
- 9:23I'm gonna hear some tucks about that like Tom. Yeah
- 9:29He came Mike Tomlin came out I think it was either today or yesterday and came out and pretty much said like don't even waste
- 9:35Your time like yeah, if you want to even approach about that, don't even waste your time
- 9:39Right. So no, I'm the guys never had a losing season and Steelers typically don't move from coaches very fast
- 9:47And yeah, and one bad exit like I don't know. Did anyone really think the Steelers were gonna do much?
- 9:53Absolutely not so I don't
- 10:01So very tough competitive division, so I think they overperformed this year
- 10:05So I don't most as a Steelers fan be like Tomlin stills got it. Yeah
- 10:09No, he's definitely he's definitely still that guy
- 10:11I feel like if anything if they were to part ways it'd be like a mutual agreement like hey
- 10:16You know, he'd probably come to them before they come to him trying to get rid of him
- 10:21So it'll be like he'll step back for Tomlin. Yeah for sure. I just could imagine him going anywhere else
- 10:26No, I don't either so I don't think he's done with football. I don't either you know, so no
- 10:33Should if Pittsburgh were to keep Russell Wilson like another one-year deal or whatever and still have fields
- 10:37like
- 10:38If they just get a solid running back
- 10:41I don't know who that would be but somebody other than Najee Harris
- 10:44Is that enough to elevate that offense to be able to compete in this game? I?
- 10:49Feel like they need another wide out to yeah, oh sure yeah pickings can't an offensive line. Yeah, they're often
- 10:56Way more than just than just the running game. Yeah, I don't think there's a free agent
- 11:01They keep Najee Harris
- 11:03I think this is his last year. I think he's gone. Yeah, you let Najee walk you keep Warren because he's
- 11:11Because he's a spark plug for that for that offense and you need a you got to find yourself a new hammer
- 11:18new hammer
- 11:19Now as you got his chance. Oh for sure. Yeah for sure. You got a chance so
- 11:25with that
- 11:27Again Ravens getting the win 28 14 and they go on to play the bills this week. Good luck circle the wagons
- 11:34Yeah, right
- 11:36Broncos we do not need to spend a ton of time on this game, but we'll talk about it
- 11:41Broncos traveling to Buffalo and
- 11:44That's about all they did was travel there
- 11:47Bonix really didn't look that bad. There's some ups and downs but
- 11:52He came out and said like after the game like how promising they lost 31 to 7 by the way
- 11:57I
- 11:58Didn't say that but he came out and said like how promising and like the Broncos are trending upward and they feel
- 12:04Like they're disappointed sure, but I think they're happy they made the playoffs and they feel confident about
- 12:09Starting next season, you know, oh and oh and getting fresh slate. I mean, I would totally agree with that
- 12:15I mean that bone X would hit where they draft them at 16
- 12:19They were middle of the
- 12:21No, there was no he was up to six was he 12 then was he the last quarterback after yeah
- 12:27He was after McCarthy. Okay. Yeah, he was 12 because I traded up six and 26 on six quarterbacks
- 12:33Yeah, because they thought yeah because Sean Payne thought he pulled a fast one on the Vikings
- 12:37Yeah, and blah blah blah and after they took JJ
- 12:41Some good cornerstones, they got some decent receivers. They still like their defense is solid
- 12:47I mean the score was 10-7 at half. So it wasn't like it was exactly a total blow
- 12:52just then you saw Buffalo's experience and Josh Allen just take over the second half and then
- 12:58you know Bo Nicks had a press a little bit, you know, it's playoffs and
- 13:02Kind of the hometown team in the cold weather really got to him. Yeah, I think it continued the story of just like how important the running game was
- 13:10This this weekend. Oh, yeah, because James Cook had 120 yards rushing
- 13:14And the Broncos couldn't get anything going. Yeah, 79 yards. Yeah
- 13:20So
- 13:21Yeah, and as far as the other side of things go, yeah, Bill's was controlled for most of the game
- 13:26I mean, yeah 10-7 at half, but I mean they just they put their foot on the gas bill and say half didn't take it off
- 13:32Yeah, I mean just everything was going their way
- 13:35So shaping up for like we said, they play the Ravens shaping up for just a crazy
- 13:40Probably the game of the week. I would imagine if there is one
- 13:43I would imagine if there is one in playoffs, I mean every games game
- 13:46Yeah, pretty much in playoffs, but like I think that one is probably if we had to pick one
- 13:50Yeah, I don't know cheese Texas cream of the crop electrifying. I would say, you know, you got like once again
- 13:57We got to you said MVP vs. MVP pretty much exactly. So
- 14:01Yeah, like like I said, don't we don't need to spend a ton of time on this one
- 14:05We know what happened here, but just just experience really like you stated
- 14:09But hey, I think the Broncos could come back next year
- 14:13Probably still a wild card behind the Chiefs
- 14:19Chargers who knows right now, but yeah, they need some work, too
- 14:21But but you don't ever know it's like that's how the NFL schedule really works now
- 14:26They're gonna play the second place team team record, you know schedule next year true
- 14:31So like, you know like all these non playoff teams like, you know
- 14:34The commanders who totally just flipped their season or the Chargers are gonna play a different, you know
- 14:39They're not they're gonna play a little different because that's one of the things we're talking about the Chargers
- 14:42They didn't play anybody right first 12 game. Yeah, and the two all their losses were against good teams. Yeah
- 14:49No doubt
- 14:51Yeah, Bill's getting the dub 31 7 in Buffalo and they got one more at least one more home game
- 14:59So we'll we'll talk about that a minute the next three games that we have to talk about real quick
- 15:04I
- 15:05Honestly, it's all about quarterback play almost almost almost
- 15:10But I think that's the main reason that made the difference honestly in these next three starting with the Packers traveling to Philadelphia
- 15:17For me, that's just Jordan love didn't look crisp at all. No, he didn't he looked stressed
- 15:23Like he didn't find no rhythm. I mean they just weren't
- 15:28Christian no Christian Watson. Yeah, no, yeah, I mean yeah, it's difference a lot of dudes got banged up too for sure
- 15:34I mean, yeah, Reid got a read got went down. Yeah. Yeah exactly
- 15:38But I mean I knew that game was gonna be walking in park for the Eagles. They are
- 15:43They're hungry too. I would say like that's
- 15:46If I'm the Lions, I'm definitely watching out for the Eagles
- 15:50I mean they got they got the full shebang over there offense running back wide out. So you name it hurts
- 15:57You know, that would be a fun rushing battle lines versus the Eagles for yeah
- 16:02That would be dope. Did you all feel like Jalen Hurst was back?
- 16:06Or do you still feel like he's still you know, like that's going in the next week
- 16:10I didn't feel like he played I think I think it's quite like a B game. Yeah, I didn't need to though
- 16:16But I feel like that's a discussion about Jalen hurts all the time
- 16:20I know it is I mean game ended up being close though
- 16:25Because the Packers were only down by six. Yeah in the fourth and so they screwed the pooch
- 16:30Yeah, but they had a chance. Mm-hmm. So you would you would need a better performance out of Jalen
- 16:37Saquon needed it could have done more but I mean Saquon still did his
- 16:42His job. I don't want to hear about all the people being like, oh say Kwan shouldn't have slid and not scored that
- 16:47I think that's the smartest movie. Yeah, that's right. Yes, for sure looking you're looking for the W
- 16:52Yeah, no, I think that's the smartest movie could have done but like even last season
- 16:56I felt this way about Jalen hurts, you know last season and almost this one tire season
- 17:00But then back on like what you said, he only he's only doing enough
- 17:04Like that he has to like, yeah, exactly doesn't need doesn't need to go above. So it's yeah
- 17:09I don't know it's tough
- 17:10But like it just feels like it's been that way for the last two seasons for me
- 17:13so like maybe this is just what we're gonna get maybe this is Jalen hurts is and like
- 17:18You know can't expect too much. I mean he's still but he still gets a job still getting deep into the playoffs though
- 17:24Yeah, exactly. Well, he doesn't make dumb mistakes. That's how I like
- 17:28When he plays his worst like he throws he's gonna be below 60 60 percent passing most of the time
- 17:35He might get some big long, you know
- 17:38Yardage plays and then he'll hit a run or two there when you're like, oh, that's really nice
- 17:42That gets you that first down
- 17:44But then you know
- 17:45There's a few of those plays like later in the season where he's got to fit it between a gap and that he doesn't do
- 17:50And throws that pick, you know, I feel like when you get man-to-man he plays succeeds really well
- 17:55You know and a running game always helps to know for sure and when it's a clock, you know
- 18:02Get your head so
- 18:04Yeah, Eagles getting the dub 22 10 over the Packers
- 18:08Yeah
- 18:09Closing thoughts on the Packers. I guess for me is just I don't know. It's a good thing
- 18:14They signed Jordan loved that prove-it deal
- 18:16Cuz he's got to keep proving it next season true, but I mean he got injured this year. Yeah, you know
- 18:21Yeah, so that's gonna throw you off, but that's just it wasn't a good show
- 18:24Yeah, Jacob's gonna most their teams to be back. Jacob's gonna be back
- 18:27All those young receivers are probably gonna be back. Hopefully he wasn't back, you know, so like I don't think the Packers are dead in the water
- 18:36I don't think they're dead in the water
- 18:37But I think they're a little nervous like a couple these other teams are about to talk about about their quarterback play when it comes down
- 18:43to crunch time, you know, I mean so
- 18:46That matters
- 18:47It always matters, you know
- 18:50And he just it was just so bad to me. I don't know it just stands out
- 18:53But again these next three games are score back by its standout. So whatever
- 18:58Next game next game. What do we got? Who do we got commanders of the week commanders at the Bucs?
- 19:04poor Baker
- 19:06But awesome for Jade and Daniels. I mean he just lit it up
- 19:10He sold when you said electric about somebody else earlier tonight. I mean, that's Jade and Daniels to you. Yeah, he's a game changer
- 19:17And he was so calm and can be was he was higher game
- 19:22Yeah, you didn't see him lash out after bad play like he even that on that fourth down play. We
- 19:28He was it Terry that's scary Terry
- 19:31Yeah, he was composed like sat back in the pocket pressure on this man
- 19:35They found a man and then you know, you gotta let your playmakers make big plays too because Harry that's their playmaker
- 19:41And the white opposite he'd know he did look super comfortable
- 19:44It's kind of like like we were talking before he recorded like how comfortable Lamar Jackson was looking this week
- 19:50And that's he looked very Lamar Jackson is
- 19:54Yes
- 19:55Quiet feet, you know, I'm totally unlike Sam Darnold but quiet quiet feet, you know feeling the pressure
- 20:01Just like that that sense that's almost not coachable. It's like you either have every don't yeah, and the dude is just different
- 20:09Whether whether or not the commanders win next week or not, I don't think it matters like their season is a success
- 20:15Yeah, oh
- 20:16Yep, easy and who knows they can make a run at that that division next year
- 20:20It does who knows if the Eagles can repeat what they're doing, you know, you know, they should have most people returning to I believe
- 20:26Yeah, yeah, and I think the Redskins are gonna be the team that stacks like the Texans did this year
- 20:45But yeah, they have a ton of money, you know available for sure
- 20:48Those free agents just like Texans did so I could see them making a ton of moves this year
- 20:53To solidify that team and start making a run like they tried to do with you know, CJ shroud this year
- 20:59Yeah, and it's just crazy how well that defense is bounced back two years removed from getting rid of
- 21:06Chase Young and Montez sweat, you know thinking like that's a bad idea
- 21:10You know, I mean if you're trying to build something but they've done it and you know, it's just fun to watch and now they
- 21:16You know able to get the win on a field goal. Did you see how nervous?
- 21:21Zane Gonzalez was so
- 21:34So a lot of people were questioning that and I get it like my brother
- 21:40Nerves yeah, my brother. Yeah, he's he's diagnosed with OCD. Sure. So it's it's legit
- 21:46and we were
- 21:48Because we didn't know any better at the time
- 21:50Like why does he just keep like fixing his hair and trying to put on something like it's hair
- 21:54It feels like he didn't do it yet
- 21:56Then also they they had cut at some point where he had actually as they were driving
- 22:01He had his kicking shoe off and he was fixing his sock
- 22:05And trying to get it to feel right. Mm-hmm, and then putting the shoe his shoe back on so oh, yeah
- 22:15I know people want to get down on kickers all the time, but dude, there's some
- 22:20For them do it and if you're not, you know
- 22:23You're not in that moment every single week like a quarterback or receiver potentially or you know
- 22:28Even even an edge rusher or something, right?
- 22:30But you know, so when you're just throwing into there like that
- 22:33Yeah, I can't imagine and the whole weight of the team the season second city if it's like that
- 22:39You know what I mean? The second most important player on the team
- 22:43Like it yeah
- 22:54Was he the points leader for the NFL all-time
- 22:58I
- 23:01Thought he was
- 23:03I could be wrong, but I thought someone beat him lightly. That's what I mean though. I feel like somebody did beat him
- 23:11It's Adam Vinatieri still it is okay. Who's the second Morton Anderson and then Gary Anderson
- 23:18Yeah
- 23:23He wasn't good at the
- 23:26Topic for Vikings fans
- 23:30Yeah, I was only three when Gary missed that this is just generational hurt is what we call
- 23:41Anyway, what were we talking about? Oh commander's box. Yeah commanders getting the dub 2320 on the Zane Gonzalez kick. That was pretty awesome
- 23:47I don't get in but hey made it
- 23:51They get to travel and play your boys. So I can't wait to talk about that. We'll get there. Let's hurry up with this
- 23:59Because this last one doesn't really need to be talked about
- 24:03Wait, hold on. You don't want to talk about Baker Mayfield's fumble. Oh, I do actually I do actually because he does feel super bad about that
- 24:11as
- 24:12He should I think like I mean it is kind of on him. But yeah, I mean he still played a good game
- 24:21Yeah, the fumble was like the only the only thing that I'd knock knock on him and right now with with the way that
- 24:29The NFC South is I mean, yeah Atlanta's there so Atlanta will have a full season season of Michael Pennex
- 24:36So we don't know what that's gonna give you Carolina not ready yet
- 24:39Probably in New Orleans who knows right now in New Orleans. Yeah
- 24:43Think Mike Evans comes back. Yes, why would he not?
- 24:46Yeah, just to break Jerry Rice's record for most kids
- 24:54He lit up Marcus Lattimore
- 24:57Yeah, he literally it wasn't even really a contest
- 25:00Every other every other time they've matched up Lattimore is always one and just like man, he's got you this time
- 25:07Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he seemed beat up though Lattimore
- 25:10I feel like he wasn't a hundred percent and you could just tell the way he was just overly aggressive on some plays with Mike Evans
- 25:18Lattimore likes playing that way too though. Yeah, but I mean dude, it's the playoffs like you
- 25:26Play ball. Yeah, don't right he was he he definitely got an Lattimore's head
- 25:30They they put the man on man on him. They was like your best man against mine
- 25:35So we're gonna see who's gonna win and Mike Evans
- 25:42It's a Hall of Famer man, so yeah commanders getting the win
- 25:47So before yeah, yeah what what what I was feeling really good right here. I was five and all going into this last game
- 25:53Yeah, I'd rather be one in five right now to be honest
- 25:59So the vikes
- 26:01unraveling to Phoenix to play the LA Rams after the game was moved a lot of Vikings fans there actually
- 26:09But they're gonna go ahead and get the the L
- 26:12yeah, 27 to 9 to the Rams now before we even talked about the Vikings and their woes and
- 26:20Don't even know where to start but
- 26:23All credit to the Rams man their defense played outstanding. Yes, for sure Sam Darnold held on to the ball way too freaking long
- 26:29yeah, and a lot of plays but like that defense is super young and
- 26:34When there's rumors like I think it was last season that Sean McVeigh could retire or maybe be done. Well now he's got TV
- 26:41Yeah, you go to TV or something
- 26:43Well now he's got this young defense that you know, you can mold and have have with you still got a veteran quarterback that knows
- 26:50Exactly what he's doing and that that
- 26:52Had uh, okay. No the the fumble play. Oh, you know that got it. That's just a veteran quarterback
- 27:01You know like what I was amped right we score touch some who got called back the shoulder replay and I'm like
- 27:06You know when I see none of the guys
- 27:09You can you can flick it forward like that's a pass, you know, and the cools right there
- 27:13Because it doesn't look like he really came that forward with it
- 27:17But however, it makes sense, but he was tied up and his head was down like yeah
- 27:24So like the letter of the law suggests absolutely is
- 27:29Like it was an incomplete pass whatever but like I think the spirit in that instance
- 27:35Stafford was trying to just get rid of the ball
- 27:39So how do we change that you got to get in the brains put chips in there
- 27:43So, you know if he's thinking if he's trying to complete a pass or not, okay, Elon
- 27:49But it's like it is it a judgment call for the refs then you know
- 27:53Like it used to be like in the grasp or do you get it has to be within the yard
- 27:58Their judgment calls been grounded is grounding at least over the last two years
- 28:02Feels like it's always been a judgment call where they're like, well was he out of the tackle box or nah
- 28:07Was there a receiver in there and they're talking about it and then they throw the flag. So why?
- 28:12Why would that not be any different in this?
- 28:14Well, they didn't call that they didn't throw a flag on that flag
- 28:16Right they did but I'm saying in other instances where it's like well everyone that's watching is like why the heck was that not grounding?
- 28:23You see him talking and then like two seconds later they throw the flag and call the grounding
- 28:27Yeah, well they they initially called it a fumble
- 28:31Fumble, fumble, touchdown
- 28:33That's why they didn't have a conversation
- 28:35That's why they didn't throw the flag
- 28:37And then the replay can't throw the flag so then it's like
- 28:39Exactly
- 28:41The Vikes just got screwed over but
- 28:43It is what it is. You know what I mean?
- 28:45There's way more than that that happened that lost the game for the Vikes but
- 28:49That sucked
- 28:50And then Harry Henderson, we gotta talk about him for half
- 28:53Hall of Famer
- 28:54He is one of four
- 28:56Harry Henderson, Harrison Smith is who he's talking about
- 28:58Yeah
- 28:59Wait, you're not talking about the Sasquatch?
- 29:01Yeah
- 29:04He kind of plays like one sometimes
- 29:06Could have been Hitman's last game
- 29:08Yeah, he finished one of four safeties you know that are all in the Hall of Fame
- 29:12With the same numbers, a thousand tackles, 30 interceptions and 20 sacks
- 29:16So I think
- 29:17Oh really?
- 29:18Catten is easy
- 29:20You think it's a lock for Harrison?
- 29:21It's pretty much a lock, just looking at some of the statistics
- 29:23He's in the top ten of almost all those guys are on the HOL
- 29:26And in the day and age of like everybody saying like oh everybody gets in Hall of Fame type deal
- 29:31MLB for sure is known for it right now, really bad
- 29:34But like if he's got the same stats as guys back then like you know he's
- 29:39Yeah, he's in a high level
- 29:41You know with all of them are in the HOF right now so
- 29:45Yeah
- 29:46So then do you think he's first ballot?
- 29:50I might give him a second
- 29:51It would depend who else is on the ballot
- 29:53Who else is on the ballot?
- 29:54Personally
- 29:55Him and Aaron Rodgers will be on the ballot for this year
- 29:57Well Aaron's gotta have a stint in Minnesota
- 29:59He's just like watching Harrison watching Harrison Smith as a half packer fan living in Minnesota
- 30:05See a lot of them
- 30:06Half packer fan, yeah
- 30:07Yeah
- 30:08He's gonna trade that out for his Vikings though
- 30:10I think he's HOLA really good
- 30:13Okay
- 30:14Like I
- 30:15I think your take is HOLA bad
- 30:22Yeah I just like he's
- 30:24You're saying I'm being a Homer is what you're saying?
- 30:26Possibly
- 30:27I don't think he's that big of a game changer as far as like safeties go
- 30:32Man this season he was
- 30:34He got the game ceiling pick like 3-4 games I think this year
- 30:37Yeah
- 30:38Couple of them were just like fly balls
- 30:40No I mean I'm a little biased because I got umpteen years of Ed Reed
- 30:46He's arguably greatest safety ever
- 30:48Yeah arguably
- 30:50Or Butler as a packers fan
- 30:52But he has better stats than Butler
- 30:54Would you say Butler? He's HOF?
- 30:56Was he game changer?
- 30:57No he wasn't
- 30:58But he's HOF
- 30:59I would say Ed Reed is a game changer
- 31:01The NFL probably was like you know he needs to get in because he did the Lambo leap thing whatever
- 31:06So that's my other non half packer fan
- 31:09Back to this
- 31:10So
- 31:11This half packer fan non half packer thing turned on and off switch
- 31:15Screwing me up
- 31:16But I can see it as what you're saying as outside looking in
- 31:20Did he have the big
- 31:22Was he Dion?
- 31:23Was he Charles Woodson?
- 31:25Was he you know
- 31:26Was he like oh that's the guy that I have to be worried about every single play
- 31:31A lot
- 31:32You know
- 31:33A lot of times sure
- 31:35Well you talked to Aaron Rodgers he would probably disagree with your take
- 31:40Well Jake's also not Aaron Rodgers but I would agree with that
- 31:44I mean Aaron you would have the highest regard of playing against
- 31:48He always talked about he has to know where 22 is on the field at all times
- 31:53Which is true
- 31:55But when you play him twice a year you know it's different in division too for sure
- 31:59But
- 32:00Alright I mean elephant in the room
- 32:04Enough hairy talk because he's probably going to be HOF
- 32:07But I respect to Ed Reed I do really like Ed Reed
- 32:11He was a definition of a baller
- 32:13I would agree Ed Reed had a better career than
- 32:15Oh Brian Dawkins
- 32:17Another hard hitter
- 32:19Hard hitting safety
- 32:21Yeah he's vicious
- 32:22Yeah anyway alright alright yeah
- 32:24We could go on a tangent
- 32:25Okay elephant in the room Viking Sam Darnold
- 32:28Are they divorcing?
- 32:30Are they going to renew their vows?
- 32:32Sign and trade is about the only way I see it
- 32:34Sign and trade?
- 32:35Yeah
- 32:36Why would you sign that for Darnold then?
- 32:38Why don't you just walk and go find your own
- 32:40Franchise tag him
- 32:42But okay but if okay
- 32:44But okay
- 32:46Like three weeks ago three weeks ago yeah good point right?
- 32:49All of that what I just said right there
- 32:51Three weeks ago I would have franchise tagged him for sure
- 32:54And went into next season not trading JJ McCarthy
- 32:57And let him start let Sam Darnold start and then maybe trade him off
- 33:01If things are looking sour and somebody else needs a QB
- 33:04Whatever
- 33:05Now that we're at this point I don't know if I want to franchise tag him
- 33:08Because is anybody going to be interested in him at that
- 33:11You have that deal figured out
- 33:13Before you franchise tag him
- 33:14For sure
- 33:15Wait you don't pull a stunt like the Jetson trade for Hasan Reddick
- 33:18Thinking oh hey we can make it
- 33:20For sure
- 33:21Tomorrow this time yep
- 33:23Yeah no okay fair enough
- 33:26That's a good point but he's the only one that's really ever done it
- 33:29But maybe he wants to go find his own deal
- 33:32And they mutually just like whatever
- 33:34I can see that too
- 33:35I don't know where he'd go
- 33:37The Giants could use a quarterback like him maybe
- 33:40That would maybe let him start even you know what I mean
- 33:43San Francisco I think San Francisco
- 33:45San Fran but
- 33:46San Fran what's his name?
- 33:48He's got a GM Lynch or whatever
- 33:50He came out and said that they want Purdy for a long long time
- 33:55Really?
- 33:56He has to say that
- 33:57If someone asked him if he wanted Purdy what is he going to say?
- 33:59You have to say that about Mr. Irrelevant?
- 34:01I don't think so
- 34:02I don't think you have to say that
- 34:04Especially after a season he had
- 34:06When he's your starting quarterback
- 34:08Your current starting quarterback on your roster
- 34:10He's got one year left or does he need one now?
- 34:12I can't remember if Purdy's got one more
- 34:14He has one more
- 34:15He has one more
- 34:16So this is extension time
- 34:18It is extension time
- 34:19But yeah you have to say that
- 34:21What else is he going to say?
- 34:23You don't have Sam Donald yet but
- 34:25But he's not going to pull like what the Browns did
- 34:29And be like no Baker Moove like whatever
- 34:31Baker Mayfield's not our guy
- 34:32We're going after Deshaun Watson and then
- 34:34But do you how many playoff caliber teams
- 34:38Arguably San Fran could still maybe be one next year
- 34:41I don't know
- 34:42Arguably right?
- 34:43That rest is going to be tough
- 34:45Oh yeah for sure
- 34:47Because Seahawks really want
- 34:49What's his name?
- 34:50Their head coach really wants Geno Smith back bad too
- 34:53And his contract's up
- 34:55So there's an option there too for Sam
- 34:57But I don't think that would happen
- 34:59But do you even want Sam if you're a playoff team
- 35:01After seeing arguably the two most pressure filled games
- 35:05He's ever played in his NFL career
- 35:07The last two weeks and you saw it
- 35:09And he played exactly the same as
- 35:12The way he played against the Lions the week prior
- 35:15Just holding onto it way too long
- 35:17You know?
- 35:18Only getting to like his second read
- 35:20When most quarterbacks are already at their fourth
- 35:22Or the ball's gone
- 35:24But I think it also exposes the Vikings offense a little bit
- 35:27A hundred percent
- 35:28Like the Lions played straight man to man
- 35:30And then the Rams came out playing
- 35:32They don't play man to man typically at all
- 35:34And they just said alright we saw what the Lions did to you
- 35:37We're going to do the exact same thing
- 35:39And I didn't see a ton of separation
- 35:41I haven't looked at all the 22s
- 35:43There wasn't but at some point separation in the NFL doesn't matter
- 35:46The windows are so tight you've got to freaking throw the ball
- 35:48You've got to give him a chance
- 35:50Or you've got to have a receiver that gets open
- 35:52Which he did all year though
- 35:54Sam Darnold did take those chances
- 35:56You know when you take chances you throw some picks
- 35:58So he did take those chances throughout the year
- 36:01And I just didn't see him taking those downfield chances in the playoffs
- 36:06Very Kirk Cousins-ish in the playoffs
- 36:08And you're not taking the chances downfield
- 36:11So you would rather have the pick than the sack is what you're saying
- 36:14The possible pick
- 36:16It's like a mini punt why not
- 36:18Potentially
- 36:20If it's third down and you're taking a shot downfield
- 36:25A hundred percent it's like a punt
- 36:27Now you can pinpoint it
- 36:29Almost
- 36:30Just like okay whatever
- 36:32So parting gift
- 36:34Found interesting
- 36:36At the end of the season last year
- 36:38Justin Jefferson endorsed keeping Kirk Cousins as his quarterback
- 36:42He was asked literally the same question this year
- 36:44And he had no comment on whether or not
- 36:47You know he's like
- 36:49My job is to be the best at what I do
- 36:51And whoever comes in here we're just going to work with that
- 36:54He did not endorse Sam Darnold per se
- 36:58Yeah I think he was very frustrated yesterday
- 37:00He was
- 37:02Less is more in that scenario
- 37:04For sure for sure so interesting
- 37:07Like I said in a couple weeks on that
- 37:09That other show before the Super Bowl maybe we'll go on a Vikings tangent
- 37:13You mean the big game
- 37:14I'm sorry the big game the big
- 37:16The mixing bowl yeah
- 37:18At the Super Dome
- 37:20At the Super Dome
- 37:22With that Kev let's head right into our tent talk
- 37:34And to start tent talk not a lot going on this week
- 37:39Injuries though
- 37:40Nekobi Dean was just back for Philly and now is set to miss the rest of the playoffs
- 37:47He's a dog
- 37:48Yeah yeah man just not good to lose him
- 37:51Deshaun Watson
- 37:53I'm not trying to laugh at Deshaun Watson's misfortune here
- 37:58But he went ahead and ruptured his Achilles
- 38:01And could miss all of 2025 just again just continue like
- 38:05God somebody should write a book about the Browns the last like five years
- 38:09Because I'd probably read it you know
- 38:11Just God I know like Lions fan you know you've had your problems
- 38:16Your books
- 38:18I was a Vikings fan we've had ours
- 38:22In my lifetime the Ravens have always been mostly good
- 38:25So I don't know
- 38:26They were the Browns up and down
- 38:28They have them up and down every 12 years
- 38:30But like the Browns are just different man
- 38:32So like that and this Deshaun Watson situation just kind of adds to the whole thing
- 38:36So I have no idea who's going to play quarterback there next year
- 38:40Probably your boy
- 38:41Probably Sam Darnold
- 38:43Or Kirk Cousins
- 38:44Which he was about to go to Cleveland anyway before Atlanta
- 38:48So back with the old OC
- 38:51There's a chance
- 38:53See that angle
- 38:54The only real news I was seeing Texans release Deontay Johnson
- 38:57He was only there for like two weeks
- 38:59What's up with him?
- 39:00There must be just
- 39:01There's some underlying
- 39:02There must just be like
- 39:03Is there cancer in the locker room or something?
- 39:05Negative or something I don't know
- 39:07Yeah cancer is a good way to put it
- 39:08It has to be
- 39:09Otherwise he's got a good frame you know
- 39:12He's got decent hands
- 39:14He had the great ear
- 39:16Yeah exactly
- 39:17He definitely did good
- 39:18He's got it in on him
- 39:19It's just who knows
- 39:20I don't know
- 39:21Technically fourth team
- 39:22Because he was with the Steelers at the beginning
- 39:24Or at least at the beginning of like the NFL season
- 39:27Got traded to Carolina
- 39:29Then traded to the Ravens
- 39:31Ravens we cut them because like you're complaining about like playtime and like touches like whatever
- 39:38Yeah that's just weird
- 39:40Go kick rocks we run the ball
- 39:41Literally you have Derek
- 39:43Throw it to Bateman
- 39:44Yeah
- 39:45Yeah now
- 39:46But because he's actually healthy
- 39:49Let's see we mentioned Russell Wilson
- 39:51So AJ Brown
- 39:52This is just kind of funny actually
- 39:54I don't even have an issue with it
- 39:55I just thought it was funny
- 39:56But like they pan to the sideline
- 39:58AJ Brown is just sitting there reading
- 40:00Inter excellence
- 40:01On the sideline during the game
- 40:03What is that like a motivational book?
- 40:05Yeah kind of pretty much
- 40:06You know they're like
- 40:07Maybe we have to pop that out right now real quick
- 40:10And since that happened that book is now number one on Amazon
- 40:14Really? Oh wow
- 40:16It's really a marketing move
- 40:17Right
- 40:18Yeah no doubt
- 40:19Yeah he's probably getting paid
- 40:20While also finding his Inter excellence
- 40:24Coaching
- 40:25Let's see Jerry Jones and the Cowboys and Mike McCarthy mutually split
- 40:30But Deion Sanders
- 40:33Yeah
- 40:34Those talks are heating up
- 40:36Allegedly they have already talked about it
- 40:38Which kind of blows my mind
- 40:40Considering like what three months ago we just mentioned how he
- 40:43Yeah we were talking about it
- 40:45Nope there's no way like blah blah blah
- 40:47Yeah
- 40:48And now like we talked about like what if
- 40:51You know McCarthy's last year he's gone and what if Deion
- 40:54And then we're all just like nah
- 40:56And now it's I don't know
- 40:58Yeah it could possibly be
- 40:59If Jerry Jones is going to coach a team it could be prime time
- 41:02Like I don't know
- 41:03I could see it
- 41:05I don't
- 41:06I don't see what's the door being going to the draft but that'd be
- 41:09Interesting like what if he goes to the Giants then he's got to play against his
- 41:12Kid twice a year
- 41:13Maybe that's planned maybe they want that
- 41:15I don't know
- 41:16I don't know
- 41:17That'd be weird scheming up against your kid
- 41:19Right
- 41:20You would think
- 41:21Mike Vrabel new HD of the Patriots we knew that we called that here at Banter with the
- 41:27Boys
- 41:28That makes my head hurt
- 41:29First I feel bad for Mayo to be honest like it was weird and we were talking about it
- 41:33A little bit just how he
- 41:35Was he given a real chance you think or do you think this was literally the plan potentially
- 41:39I don't think he was given a real chance
- 41:41What what I understand is that at something somewhere in Mayo's contract was a guarantee
- 41:50That he was going to become the next head coach and in some legal non-legal language or whatever
- 41:57After Belichick
- 41:58Yeah after Belichick
- 41:59What
- 42:00Because like
- 42:01This is the first time I'm hearing this
- 42:02Because Kraft wanted to keep Mayo
- 42:05For a long
- 42:06Yeah keep Mayo with with the Patriots
- 42:09With the organization sure
- 42:10Yeah he didn't want to lose him so how do I do that and I have to like do something that guarantees
- 42:17Or ensures he's going to want to stay so we're going to get Belichick to I don't know tinfoil hat
- 42:22Yeah
- 42:23Get Belichick to step down we're going to now put Mayo in place and then all of a sudden last year it's like
- 42:28Vrabel doesn't get hired
- 42:29Yeah like oh my god
- 42:30No it's like if Vrabel gets candies now there oh I have this legal or whatever obligation to Mayo
- 42:37But I really want Vrabel now
- 42:40Do you think they contacted Vrabel at all then like hey if you just go find a job for like 12 months
- 42:46We got you next season which would be really messed up though
- 42:50Probably
- 42:51For Mayo
- 42:52Probably but nobody's going to
- 42:53Give me that documentary I got to see it
- 42:55Or did they
- 42:56Tinfoil hat everybody tinfoil hat
- 42:58Yeah right right
- 42:59Or did they get rid of them because they won that game because of the bills
- 43:03Or that or that I mean
- 43:05I thought they were going to tank it I would have like
- 43:08Most people did
- 43:09Yeah we didn't need that game
- 43:11That was a loss I picked so yeah
- 43:13Lost his job too
- 43:15The only other coaching change Falke at the moment well there's one more Falcons fire their DC Jimmy Lake
- 43:21And then the Browns just upgraded somebody to be their OC and I missed who it was
- 43:27I can't remember but I think it was somebody within the organization
- 43:31So there is that sorry new Browns OC for not knowing your name and putting it in here I feel bad
- 43:38Don't do something next year or you'll remember it
- 43:41I'm too slow on this
- 43:43No dice no dice anyway
- 43:45Congrats on the job I guess
- 43:48With that Kev let's go into our divisional weekend preview and picks
- 44:03We're back
- 44:04Preview and picks you know I felt very confident that we would be talking about the Vikings right now
- 44:09And we're not so don't even mention them
- 44:11Well they would have won
- 44:12Unbelievable if only if only
- 44:14I'm picking them anyway
- 44:16Well to start here I don't think any of these games are easy picks by the way
- 44:21But to start this one's pretty tough
- 44:23Number four Houston Texans traveling to the Kansas City Chiefs
- 44:28D'Angelo why don't you start it off
- 44:31Do you want to know what everybody else has picked so far before
- 44:36No I want to hear a raw take out of
- 44:38You want to hear a raw take do I share anybody's
- 44:40I mean I see them so it's kind of
- 44:42Don't share them
- 44:44Until you guys are done until everybody's done
- 44:46Alright
- 44:47I'm definitely going to go with Chiefs
- 44:50I mean they've been their vets they've been in this position numerous of times
- 44:55And played everybody
- 44:57Patty it's hard to beat him you got to play at a hundred and fifty percent to beat that guy
- 45:04No matter who they got injured or whatever it is he finds a way to win injured or not
- 45:10Down ten or not doesn't matter he's going to try to win the game
- 45:14CJ he's too inconsistent right now for me to put faith in him to beat the Chiefs
- 45:21Too inconsistent did you watch last week
- 45:24Yeah did you watch two weeks ago when they got blown out
- 45:27That's why I chose Chargers but anyway
- 45:29Yeah exactly so yeah
- 45:31They even put no points on the board man
- 45:33Stats matter
- 45:35But I don't know for me if I'm the Chiefs I'm absolutely trying to stop Nico Collins
- 45:43He's hot
- 45:45X Factor for you is Nico Collins
- 45:47I honestly think he's a top ten wide out man dude he's a stud
- 45:50I totally agree with that
- 45:51You so what
- 45:52I totally agree with that
- 45:53Yeah I mean dude he's a great route runner his hands are phenomenal
- 45:57He has a I feel like he has that dog in him where you can't like you really got to try to stop him
- 46:04And he's going to do the above and beyond like this dude's average in what
- 46:09He was the number one receiver in the league before he got injured in yards I'm pretty sure
- 46:15Yeah I think so about week three
- 46:17Yep I mean a couple weeks in he was out for a while though
- 46:21But I definitely think yeah he's definitely a stud
- 46:23He's over a thousand yard receiver
- 46:24Yeah
- 46:25He's 22nd right now but yeah he was out for a number of weeks
- 46:28Yeah exactly
- 46:29He was at the top beforehand
- 46:30Yep he was facing a lot of injuries but yeah I mean this one's definitely going to be battle of the quarterbacks
- 46:37And if I'm going with
- 46:39Do you think it's under the spread of eight and a half?
- 46:41I honestly think they might do a sneaky like back door cover like be down like seven I mean like 14 and score the last touchdown
- 46:52Not a competitive cover
- 46:53Yeah no not a competitive
- 46:54So KC by two scores then
- 46:57Yeah yeah yeah give or take like you know the Texans score within the last two minutes
- 47:02Just to make it look a little better
- 47:04It ends up looking better but it really wasn't
- 47:06Alright alright alright
- 47:07But that defense I mean that D-line is definitely playing stellar
- 47:10If they play like that again
- 47:12Oh yeah it's going to get scary
- 47:14That's what I'm saying I feel like the Texans are a bit inconsistent so I don't want to like think they're going to play like they did last week
- 47:21Against you know these Super Bowl champs but I mean you never know dude dudes are hungry
- 47:28It's the playoffs anything can happen but I would definitely lean towards the Chiefs this game
- 47:34D'Angelo going Chiefs
- 47:35Yeah Tyler so which way are you leaning here? Are you leaning the opposite way?
- 47:39I'm going Texans yeah I think this is when the Chiefs fall
- 47:43Again I don't think the Chiefs has been dominant at all this season
- 47:47I think this is like a momentum thing for Houston right? Chiefs have been off now for a week
- 47:52They sat their starters right they sat their starters last week of the season so now it's been a little bit yeah they've been practicing you know obviously
- 47:59Oh Rusty
- 48:00Yeah I mean Travis Houston said he feels like he's 22 again
- 48:04Come on Travis
- 48:06Isn't that a Taylor Swift album?
- 48:08How would you know that?
- 48:10I have no idea
- 48:12But if I'm Houston you got to come out and score right away you can't dilly-dally with Pat Magic back there like seriously
- 48:20So if given the opportunity Houston needs to go up like 14-0 early and then hopefully not look back
- 48:26That's my thing I don't know Kansas City's clawed their way into every single game this year so
- 48:32And they're going for a three-peat
- 48:34Yeah
- 48:35You know arguably a dynasty right now
- 48:37How many touches you think Mixon's going to have?
- 48:40That's a good question
- 48:43Plus or minus one and a half
- 48:45At this rate he's not getting the ball over ten times
- 48:48There's no way
- 48:50If you want to win you're not
- 48:52He has to get it over ten times
- 48:54I think if you want to beat the Chiefs you got to pass it man
- 49:00I mean yeah but yes but I disagree
- 49:04Under ten?
- 49:05How many carries he had last week?
- 49:07Like 16
- 49:0916?
- 49:10I got it
- 49:11No Mixon had 25 carries
- 49:14He did for 106 yards
- 49:16Okay I think I'd turn off that game after halftime but
- 49:20Okay
- 49:21Yeah I didn't
- 49:23So you want to re-canter your take? You want to take the Texans?
- 49:25No not a chance
- 49:27He's slipping
- 49:28Yeah no definitely not flipping
- 49:30Jacob which way are you going over there?
- 49:31Alright so there's a bunch of things that we've already touched base on I'll try and make it quick
- 49:35I'm concerned about whether or not the Chiefs offense is going to have any rust from two weeks off
- 49:39Yes it will
- 49:40We've learned that rust happens with rest
- 49:44Yeah
- 49:45Historically it's going to be a thing
- 49:47Just like the Lions
- 49:49I'm concerned about the consistency of the Texans offense
- 49:51They were slow to get going against the Chargers
- 49:53Like the first five possessions were like what?
- 49:55Fumble, punt, punt, interception, punt right?
- 49:57Yeah
- 49:58A whole bunch of nothing
- 50:00I believe though the Texans D has the moxie to hang around with the Chiefs offense
- 50:07They do
- 50:08Keep it close
- 50:10But that offense has to show up at some point they got to get it going
- 50:14Because if they don't then the defense isn't going to be able to hold up forever
- 50:18And they have to keep CJ Stroud up
- 50:21That means Joe Mixon's got to run a lot and he's got to run angry which he has been doing
- 50:27That said Mahomes and his wife just had a kid so it's going to be the Chiefs
- 50:32I'm sitting on the edge of my chair
- 50:34Which way are you going?
- 50:35I know
- 50:36He's explaining it and I'm like oh Chiefs for sure
- 50:39And then I'm like no maybe Texans
- 50:41Oh Chiefs
- 50:42Drummol
- 50:44That was awesome I love it
- 50:46Great take
- 50:47Did you pick a team?
- 50:48Yeah he did Chiefs
- 50:50Because Mahomes was having a kid
- 50:52He said Patty Mahomes had a kid
- 50:54I gotcha
- 50:55I really want to take the Texans here but I just think at home
- 50:59Is going to be the difference
- 51:01I think with Chris Jones sitting for a couple weeks he's actually needed the rest
- 51:06It's going to help him
- 51:07And so I think that he's going to affect the Joe Mixon difference maker
- 51:13And I don't think CJ Stroud is going to be playoff ready yet in that atmosphere
- 51:19So I think he's going to throw a couple picks
- 51:21Dang it I just had a really good question and then I distracted myself
- 51:26Darn it
- 51:27So do you think this week of rest benefits defense more than offense?
- 51:34I think it
- 51:35Like player wise do you think it benefits defensive players over offensive players?
- 51:39I do
- 51:40I feel like offense you kind of get out of a rhythm if you're not you know what I mean
- 51:43But defense you're like let's just heal my body so I can just fly around
- 51:46Yeah exactly
- 51:47I don't know at this point in the season I think everything's just they've done it so many times
- 51:52That it's just a rhythm thing as long as their body's healthy and they know they're confident of making that cut
- 51:58They're like oh that doesn't hurt anymore
- 52:00I think that's what really matters in the game
- 52:03Especially then the Chiefs are more of a veteran team too so the rest is going to help them the most
- 52:08Right right
- 52:09Bring them back to 22 years old
- 52:11Yeah I'm sure there's some obscene what Andy Reid stat of how many wins versus losses he has coming out of a bye week too so
- 52:19Exactly
- 52:20I'm sure
- 52:21Not many losses
- 52:22Yeah
- 52:23Let's see the only other people at the moment to take Texans I think we're only missing picks from Graham and Cody
- 52:29Let's see
- 52:30Get on it boys
- 52:31Ben has taken the Texans Trey has taken the Texans and then me and everybody else is on the Chiefs bandwagon
- 52:37My heart says Texans but my brain says Chiefs
- 52:39Fair enough well you got to listen to your heart man
- 52:42I did last week and I was 5 and 1
- 52:45Yeah I know and our hearts are shattered
- 52:47This one
- 52:48Commanders at Lions D'Angelo is last
- 52:51Yep
- 52:52Rob
- 52:53Oh honestly
- 52:55No you're last
- 52:57You're last
- 52:58You're last
- 52:59Oh I didn't know that part
- 53:00He's going to talk
- 53:01No he's choosing not to hear
- 53:02Rob
- 53:03I am going Lions I think Detroit's going to come out fast and I think the style of defense that Detroit plays it will be interesting to see how Daniels reacts in that scenario in that environment
- 53:20He does I know all year he's been pretty cool calm and collect but I just think that offense I don't think they're going to be able to out score him
- 53:28So I just think the Lions are going to sit and get
- 53:31In a shootout I think they're going to end up still like squeezing out a 10 point win
- 53:35Okay okay fair enough
- 53:37Jake Commanders at Lions
- 53:40This is going to be a sneaky good game I think it's going to rival Ravensbills as far as excitement
- 53:49Lions are going to continue to play physical offense and defense which is what they always do
- 53:55David Montgomery is most likely going to be back
- 53:59That's going to be crucial for continuing to play physical, which I don't think the commander's defense can stick with and that lines defense is fast to and Zaloni is back.
- 54:13Really, really important for them.
- 54:16It's lions unfortunately.
- 54:19Yeah.
- 54:20Fair enough.
- 54:23Like I don't really have anything to lose. So I really want to go commanders here. But like the more I think football line the more
- 54:34Dan Campbell mentality.
- 54:36But he's just smart about it.
- 54:39I don't know man I really want to say like the commander's offense is going to give the lines defense some trouble.
- 54:46Just too many injuries defensively for the Lions.
- 54:50But Jaden Daniels is still kind of a wild card even though you like you know the Lions know what they're probably going to get out of them. Yeah, and you're coming into a, it's going to be loud in there.
- 55:00It's going to be a tough place to play.
- 55:05Vegas says this is the biggest spread of all four games.
- 55:09That helps with your decision. No it doesn't.
- 55:13And David Montgomery being back is huge though like I like that that dual threat is ridiculous the Porta Amon Raj is just yeah I go with the Lions at home. It's just tough man. It's going to be a tough place to win.
- 55:26Now if the Rams beat the Eagles see me next week because I think that's somebody that I don't think I think the Lions would rather play the Eagles on the Rams right now.
- 55:35Stafford.
- 55:36100% back in Detroit.
- 55:38I think that would be insane.
- 55:40I didn't think about that yet.
- 55:43Yeah, so I gotta go Lions D'Angelo we could skip you if you want.
- 55:48You guys already know what I'm gonna say. Yeah, Jaden Daniels. Big Jaden Daniels fan.
- 55:53No Lions by far. I honestly think the commanders could cover that spread. I definitely think it's going to be a one touchdown game.
- 56:01Okay, it comes down to it. But yeah, it's all about the commanders come out hot. If they don't if they let the Lions have that momentum. First quarter, it's done. It's over what is going to get wrecked by 2030 is going to get to that point because, you know, especially with Dan that head coach dude he's, he's trying to just drill teams at this point.
- 56:22I saw a meme like some that said like, it's gonna be a fun coaching matchup Dan Campbell versus Quinn and they both go for it on fourth down and it's going to be a Madden game pretty much.
- 56:32No field goals, no punks going forward on fourth and then under like every time.
- 56:38Exciting. So yeah, it's going to be a ridiculous game. It'll be fun.
- 56:42The environment will be electric.
- 56:44Nine and a halfs of spread just FYI. Really throw that out there.
- 56:49It might drop I think towards the end of the week. You think so. I see the money moving towards to cover. Yeah, for sure. Not to know where the money line.
- 56:59Game three. Game three. LA Rams traveling to the Philadelphia Eagles.
- 57:06I haven't started yet. Have I know you haven't. Okay, I'll start with this one.
- 57:15Carry the one judges ruling.
- 57:19He was my 45.
- 57:25I did a lot of pre-crap for this show obviously.
- 57:30We need to go to somebody else here.
- 57:32It's just, it's just tough like I gotta go Rams. I gotta go Rams and I think it's because like if Jordan love played a better game that game is different last week, I think he was the biggest factor so if, if Matt Stafford can come in
- 57:44and just take a couple chances down the field get cut more involved. He wasn't very involved in the Vikings game. He had that one deep ball, you know, but he wasn't very involved.
- 57:54If Higbee can come back, which he said to possibly come back, that'd be big for them to need him because he was destroying the Vikings early.
- 58:0258 yards to start the game. I think it was like just just destroying him. Kyron Williams is a hard tough runner. Yes. And that defense is fast. So I don't know. I think it's gonna be a really close game though.
- 58:16I think it could be like 1714 type type of game. Yeah, I'm taking I'm taking I'm taking Rams. But yeah, I think it's gonna be a low scoring battle. And like who knows it could be cold in Philly.
- 58:28I don't know. There's looking at about 30 degrees. Yeah. So on Sunday, I think it's just gonna be. Yeah, it's gonna be a finesse battle though. It's not like hard hitting, I think. I don't think it'll be like as hard hitting as other games we'll see this week.
- 58:44It'll be more finesse. So you've watched zero Eagles game. So yeah, I was like, did you know? I think this one. I just I don't know. I mean, it's been their fans and their players there. They're going to be fans are going to be finesse.
- 59:01Don't let you know. Their fans are all casting away to sneak that in there real quick. Yeah, that was crazy. Yeah. If you don't know what we're talking about, just go look up Eagles fan Packer fan. You'll see enough. You'll see enough. Who wants to be next?
- 59:17I'll go next. Just real quick. This is me Rob's blowout of the week here. I think Eagles are just going to come out and dominate.
- 59:24Rob's blowout of the week. I tried to give such a good take on the Rams. I attempted. No, I'm going opposite. I think this is where the Rams really fail. I think the Eagles corners can cover with Puka and Cooper. And if Higbee is not back, that's definitely another L on that side.
- 59:40I think the Eagles defense will just bring a whole different pressure to even rushing just for which the Vikings really couldn't do. So I end on the backside. They'll be able to cover versus our older got to play more of a poem style defense, not man to man, which I think the Eagles can then offensively sparkly under 100 yards this week.
- 1:00:02Good for you losing that bet. So, yeah, we're going big on the Eagles. Hey, I am. I did finish last place in the regular season. I'm just here to coordinate. Are you done? Yeah, that's that enough.
- 1:00:18That's that enough. Oh, man. Boasting around. This threw us take garbage. Rob's points are really good. The Eagles secondary is going to be able to cover the Ravens, the Rams wide receivers Puka and Cooper.
- 1:00:38That Eagles front four is going to be able to put pressure on Stafford that the Vikings, unfortunately, weren't able to do. And that Eagles defense is just physical, physical, physical. They're going to they're going to punch him in the mouth.
- 1:00:52And it's going to be Eagles and say, well, it's going to go over 100. Yeah. Maybe in the air.
- 1:00:59Catching all purpose.
- 1:01:01Okay. All purpose. I'm talking rushing. He's not going over 100. That's a good. Do we not remember what the Eagles did to the Rams in the regular season? Yeah. In LA. Yeah. Yeah. Don't worry about it. Tyler.
- 1:01:17Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Which way are you going to go? Eagles for sure. That defense is going to be too much for Matt. I mean, definitely. He's a vet. So you really can't count him out in that aspect. But it's too many dogs on that.
- 1:01:32You got that Eagles defensive line and the secondary. You got some young cats, Blanket ship, the gene, you know, you got a vet sleigh, you know, so it's like, yeah, it's they got the perfect matchup they wanted as far as like the secondary on the white outs.
- 1:01:49So they did definitely get a on that. And then a D line. It was just phenomenal. So yeah, I did. I definitely think they went in by at least 10 points. Give or take at least 10. Give or take 10. Yeah. At least 10. Give or take 10. Yeah. The spread is like at five.
- 1:02:05Six. Six. Six. Six. Five and a half. Whatever. And grenades. Take it in. Plus. Well, last but not least, Ravens at Bills. So that means Jake's last. Actually, you know what? But screw it. I mean, let's get this.
- 1:02:27Ravens at Bills. Game of the Week for us. I mean, I would say you want to delay as long as you did to make a pick. Yeah, that's right. And I actually got notes here. Yeah, that's fine. That's why mines are hot.
- 1:02:39Thanks. I don't steal it from other people. I'm just getting first things first. It's going to be it's going to be your typical AFC North weather right now. We're forecast at 20 degrees windy and a chance of snow showers. Oh, my. Oh, my.
- 1:02:52Oh my. Is right. And it's in Buffalo. Yeah. And it's in Buffalo. Is perfect. So it's perfect weather for what the Ravens are built for. Hard physical run game. Bills can run the ball, too, but they're not as physical.
- 1:03:07So it's going to be a line of line of scrimmage battle who's going to win that on both sides. And it's to me favors the Ravens low scoring physical game. I'm going to take Ravens.
- 1:03:21And even though we've got all this hype about MVP versus MVP,
- 1:03:25just because of the weather,
- 1:03:29I don't it neither one's going to have a giant like blockbuster stat line.
- 1:03:35And it's going to come down to who doesn't make a mistake.
- 1:03:39And I think Lamar is
- 1:03:42got everything going for him right now.
- 1:03:43He's dialed. He does.
- 1:03:45Yep. I agree. Ravens.
- 1:03:47Fair enough. If it was any surprise for it, it's really not.
- 1:03:50I was I was kind of the pants for a second.
- 1:03:55Anybody else want to go first?
- 1:03:58Otherwise, I'll just take the Ravens
- 1:04:00because I think their offense is just too much.
- 1:04:03I think they're just too much.
- 1:04:04I really wanted to go Bills just because I felt like they're finally ready
- 1:04:07to take that step.
- 1:04:09But honestly, these last few weeks, that Ravens offense is almost just unstoppable.
- 1:04:13Yeah. And watching Lamar in the pocket last week and how comfortable he is.
- 1:04:19Like you said, if it's going to be snowy weather,
- 1:04:21you got to be super comfortable this week.
- 1:04:23Not saying Josh Allen wouldn't be, you know, because it seems to snow
- 1:04:26there every other week right now.
- 1:04:27So they're used to it as well. But like you said, I like the Derek Henry
- 1:04:32over James Cook kind of idea.
- 1:04:35I think the battle in the trenches will be similar in this game.
- 1:04:41But yeah, I think the Ravens just edge edge him out.
- 1:04:43It'll be a Derek Henry show.
- 1:04:45I agree.
- 1:04:47You agree? All right. Tell us why you agree more.
- 1:04:50Oh, I will.
- 1:04:52I guess that he said about Derek Henry being in school.
- 1:04:56Well, I agree with, you know,
- 1:05:00I think now that the Ravens have that versatility with,
- 1:05:05you know, Derek Henry and Lamar Jackson,
- 1:05:09you know, that's a dual threat in the run game itself.
- 1:05:11So like you said, you can give Lamar 15 carries
- 1:05:15and still give Derek 25.
- 1:05:17Should you give Lamar 15 carries?
- 1:05:19If I need to. Yeah, I'm doing it for sure.
- 1:05:23I mean, it's going to be cold.
- 1:05:24So it's like the passing is going to be not in favor in a sense.
- 1:05:30Even though I think I think
- 1:05:35what Bateman, I feel like nobody can confidently guard him on.
- 1:05:41And I mean, in a bill secondary, I do.
- 1:05:45He's been playing lights out, too.
- 1:05:46I feel like he's as a play.
- 1:05:48Yeah, he's like he's like slimy.
- 1:05:50Like he's he's not the fastest, but he can get open.
- 1:05:53He's got a good he can run.
- 1:05:55Yeah, no. Yeah, yeah. Exactly.
- 1:05:56So and he has good hands, I would say, too.
- 1:05:59But yeah, no, it's definitely going to be a showdown.
- 1:06:03Yeah, I'm leaning towards the Ravens like Lamar.
- 1:06:06He's hard to stop right now.
- 1:06:07The whole offense is hard to stop.
- 1:06:10Like Allen can only do so much.
- 1:06:13And Cook, too, with him being less physical,
- 1:06:16especially against the Ravens defense right now.
- 1:06:19So yeah, I think Ravens get it.
- 1:06:22Dug it out.
- 1:06:23One by three or more by three or more.
- 1:06:27Three or more. What a blowout.
- 1:06:28I'm actually going to circle the wagons on this one.
- 1:06:31I I just think it's going to be a goofy game.
- 1:06:33I think I know the Ravens have been hot, especially if there's a lot
- 1:06:37of and the weather at this game gets to be a goofy game.
- 1:06:39And I think this crowd noise a little bit.
- 1:06:42And just the conditions, it's going to be a weird bounce somewhere,
- 1:06:46a weird tip, and the Bills are going to squeak one out.
- 1:06:49That's just how it is.
- 1:06:50The spreads at one for the Ravens.
- 1:06:53They've already played one time this year.
- 1:06:55The Ravens came out 3510 in Baltimore earlier in the season.
- 1:07:00So probably teams are a little bit different now.
- 1:07:03But I just had something goofy.
- 1:07:05It's going to be on paper, I would say the Ravens are going to win.
- 1:07:08But I think something some goofy bounces in our head.
- 1:07:11Yeah, with everything in the Bills are in a circle, the wagons and then end up in.
- 1:07:16No, okay.
- 1:07:18For round what for whatever between Josh Allen and I don't know.
- 1:07:24I'm ready for another Lamar Jackson versus Pat Mahomes matchup.
- 1:07:27It's a win win scenario.
- 1:07:29But if we're going to go by my picks, it'll be the Marjax and
- 1:07:31receive a straw.
- 1:07:32So so so you don't really want that.
- 1:07:35Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:07:36Yeah, but you will.
- 1:07:38Yeah, because the Ravens would stop.
- 1:07:39Yeah, no, they would. Yeah, I think that.
- 1:07:42No, I won't even do the hypotheticals.
- 1:07:44But yeah, the Ravens would stop the Texans.
- 1:07:45And I think the Bills would do.
- 1:07:46I think the Texan Chiefs is just a better matchup for the Texans right now.
- 1:07:50Personally, but anyway.
- 1:07:52Ah, wow. That's it.
- 1:07:55It's a good collection of games.
- 1:07:56It's exciting. Even I mean, even next week's matchups,
- 1:08:00all of them can be elite with all elite quarterbacks in them.
- 1:08:03Yeah. Yeah. You know, so I agree.
- 1:08:06I mean, that's pretty much who's left is all.
- 1:08:08And I hate that we always do talk about the quarterbacks,
- 1:08:10you know, all the time.
- 1:08:11But at the same time, it's just like that's that's the most important position,
- 1:08:17especially when you get to the playoffs.
- 1:08:18It is because if they don't make the right move, what are you going to do?
- 1:08:21You know, we saw Sam Darnold, Jordan Love.
- 1:08:25We you know, so
- 1:08:28I don't know.
- 1:08:28But we also saw running backs.
- 1:08:31Oh, running back have a significant impact.
- 1:08:33They came back. Yeah, they came back in a big way this year.
- 1:08:36Is it almost like the NFL is like kind of caught up to the passing game
- 1:08:39where they've gone so fast, you know, on the defensive side?
- 1:08:43You know, the linebackers are almost like safeties now.
- 1:08:47You know that a good running back
- 1:08:50in establishing the run against smaller defenses on the back end.
- 1:08:53It's a good point. Can be effective now, you know,
- 1:08:56and everything in the NFL is always trends.
- 1:08:58They go one way, they go spread.
- 1:09:00Just weird. All the game changes like the NBA with the pointers.
- 1:09:03Are they eventually going to go back to shooting a jumper?
- 1:09:07Or is it all going to be, you know, I mean, yeah, like the games just change.
- 1:09:10So no, that's a good point.
- 1:09:13You know, how high does Genti go?
- 1:09:15You know, at this point, how high is, you know, running back valued
- 1:09:19in the draft coming into this year after the Lions took Gibbs,
- 1:09:22you know, in the first round? Yeah. You know what I mean?
- 1:09:23So I don't know if the value in the draft will be back quite yet.
- 1:09:29They have them going like we're going on a tangent. Yeah.
- 1:09:32Yeah, they have them going like late teens, mid 20s somewhere in there.
- 1:09:35Or I've seen as a Genti.
- 1:09:37I could see him going top 10.
- 1:09:39Oh, top 10. Holy crap.
- 1:09:41We'll talk about that in our draft show.
- 1:09:43Yeah. Yeah. Oh, which we're going to have. Yeah.
- 1:09:45So top 10. Hopefully it'll be a good take.
- 1:09:48Are we going to try to do that mobile one where they can like hop in and go live?
- 1:09:53We're going to try so you guys can like hop in.
- 1:09:55Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah. So get everybody.
- 1:09:57Anyone that's got their couple minute couple draft takes.
- 1:10:00Yeah. Well, our team wants with that.
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