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Leo Zagami & Michael Jaco on MK Ultra Declass, Anna Paulina Luna, Jeffrey Epstein & the Rise of AI Control · Unleashing Intuition Secrets

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  Hello, everybody.
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  It's Michael Jaco with Unleashing Intuition Secrets, joined once
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  again by Leo, Leon Zigami.
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  Wow, you've been on a tear.
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  I just saw you recently.
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  You were on s- what was it?
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  What was the guy's show that just lost his channel, his show?
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  Yeah?
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  Somebody who lost his channel?
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  I don't know, man.
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  I don't know anything about it.
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  I'm innocent.
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  No, but t- tell me who is it?
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  The thinking of the, thinking of his name, Alex Jones.
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  So Alex Jones-
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  Ah of course, and that's been a great loss because we have- Yeah ... thousands
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  of videos there, interviews, articles and all of this just went up in smokes.
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  And now we really don't know how to replace the the visibility that
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  BanTheVideo gave to people like me who are constantly shadowbanned and censored
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  on platforms like YouTube or Facebook.
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  We even tried to go on Facebook where, on my own personal Facebook
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  with this show, and I couldn't do it.
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  So I, it's a constant, you know- Yeah ... censorship.
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  So it is a big loss.
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  I know that Alex is persevering, and he should- Yeah ... of course.
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  But Info Wars, let's say was it was the only attempt really that the
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  alternative media did to really become let's say imposing in their structure
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  almost like the mainstream media.
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  So there were millions that were, of course, invested in it and there were
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  a lot of people working there, so a lot of people also lost their jobs,
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  which that's also, I'm sad about that.
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  And then all this whole thing about The Onion taking over because,
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  it's still off the air and it seems they're doing nothing with the years
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  and years of history because- Yeah
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  That's how it is.
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  The system wanted Info Wars out and they started to fight us already 10 years ago.
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  They removed most of our videos from YouTube and then inevitably they
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  tried all these lawsuits connected to the Sandy Hook debacle debacle.
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  I wasn't involved with that whole Sandy Hook thing, so I can't really tell you.
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  I started to work with Info Wars in 2015.
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  Alex came down to Rome and we started working together.
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  So I wasn't really acquainted with what went on earlier.
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  But apparently they used it as an excuse because if we go back to the
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  First Amendment, it seems a little bit too much to punish with over a billion
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  dollars, and a- aside from that, what are you, are they gonna get out of it?
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  Because- No ... by selling simply the infrastructure, the equipment
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  and so on, they might maybe scrap one million if they're lucky yeah.
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  It's not really like the ... one thing is of course Infowars the way we knew it
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  reaching millions of people, constantly working, selling products and all.
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  And so that had actually a material value.
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  But one thing that I didn't like was when this lawyer from the
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  Sandy Hook families came in.
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  The f- one of the first things that he actually did was to remove
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  my books from the Infowars store.
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  Wow.
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  Which the, which a- and which then created a problem because of
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  course I was relying on that income generated from the sales at the store.
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  And at the same time, it of course s- signaled the fact that they had
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  some problems with me being there.
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  They used it as a way to basically silence 'cause Alex, and of course you
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  now, are a lot of our mouthpieces for things that we know are corrupt out there.
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  And so for decades he was basically exposing so many great stuff.
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  Now- I
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  think about it, I started 20 years ago, Alex started 30 years ago.
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  We were the pioneers when it came down to alternative information.
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  We fought and of course they also fought us.
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  In fact as I had to flee Europe and Italy because after my work with Alex and the
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  work I was doing at the time it became inevitable that they will have silenced
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  me also with never-ending lawsuits, making it impossible for me to make a living.
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  So- ... that's it.
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  In the end we are still here, and I'm sure that we are gonna continue to be
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  here for a long time because we persevere.
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  Absolutely ... the, I know this one thing, that of course not having
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  any more a platform at Band of Video influences also all the other
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  platforms which I have, because it it makes the less visibility, let's say.
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  But thanks to people like you who at least are having me on
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  maybe we can bypass that problem.
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  Yeah.
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  Yes, it's been it's been great, having you on and, keeping
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  your your information alive.
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  I know you're on a lot of people's shows, but we always appreciate it when
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  you come on ours go- 'cause you're-
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  I want to just say that, I always like being on your show because
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  you're very direct, very honest about discussing subjects without really,
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  basing your questioning or your line of thought simply on the narrative,
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  but able to open up, let's say.
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  Yeah.
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  And like you, I've been all over the world and you, God, you lived in
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  one of the toughest places to live, Italy, so and- Absolutely ... you
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  Giorgione, whatever, what's,
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  what's her name?
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  Meloni.
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  Meloni, yes.
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  Yes.
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  Meloni baloney.
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  You dimed her out early on.
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  I was like, "Wow, she's great."
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  And you're like, "Oh no, she's not." And sure enough, she proved herself
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  here more recently, so I was like, "Ah."
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  Let me explain you something.
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  " He was on it."
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  Europe is ruled by the Jesuits and a certain form of Freemasonry.
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  On Friday, so basically a couple of days ago, they were all in Germany
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  giving their favorite award, which is the most important award they have
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  been giving since 1950 to all the people who help building up Europe.
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  And it's called the Charlemagne Prize.
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  So all of the various, the German chancellor was there von der Leyen
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  was there, and of course the guy who received the award was a member of
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  the Illuminati, Mario Draghi, who used to be a banking system man.
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  Yeah.
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  Then later on became also prime minister during the pandemic, and probably
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  it's in line to become, in the near future, also the Italian president.
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  But this guy comes directly from the Jesuits.
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  He's a Jesuit product left, back, and center.
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  And if you actually go on the internet and you see the way he
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  was sitting down there, all with these medals in a very Masonic way.
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  They don't even hide it, when they are in that kind of environment.
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  So it's about really seeing that Europe is going down the drain, and
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  even himself when he was receiving the award, because he likes to be the guy
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  who bosses everybody around in Europe.
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  He said, "We are alone now. We have been left alone now." Because
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  they know that Europe is now really the one that is being fought here.
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  While America's doing deals with Russia, with China, and it's operating
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  a division in what will be basically a new world order very close to what
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  George Orwell was depicting in 1984.
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  Because, we will keep this hemisphere, and that is what they're doing.
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  China, Russia will take care of Eurasia, and that is simply what
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  was happening also in George Orwell.
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  There will be the Middle East used as a constant ground for an eternal war,
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  because war is part of this unfortunate process in this new world order disorder.
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  And so to, for me to see that the Europeans acknowledge now that they have
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  to get out of this mess alone, we will not be getting them out any time soon,
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  because they are also been themselves to blame, in the way they have acted.
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  Now-
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  Yeah
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  ... it seems like secretly, and this is gonna probably piss off a lot Trump when
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  it comes out, a few European nations are now trying to make a deal with Iran
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  to get through the Strait of Hormuz.
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  And that is inevitably gonna clash with with the current American administration.
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  Then we have, of course, what is happening with Ratcliffe going to Cuba.
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  And Cuba is a Jesuit stronghold.
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  The Castros-
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  ... Have always been very close.
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  I know it's a paradox, because formally it's a communist country,
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  but if you go and study the history of Cuba, is deeply entrenched in
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  Jesuitry, as well as Freemasonry.
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  Wow.
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  Which which has actually stayed there even after Castro's takeover,
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  because Fidel Castro and Che Guevara were both 33 degree Freemasons.
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  So here we have Cuba in a situation of uncertainty, because Castro, of course,
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  the brother of Fidel Castro, is very old, and apparently he has said to
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  Ratcliffe that he would be willing of sacrificing himself for his country,
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  getting arrested So that is something that of course has not been made public yet.
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  Most Cuban media are actually blocked here in the United States.
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  You can't access the main news agency in Cuba from here anymore.
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  Huh.
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  I think one of the main one is called Prensa.
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  I'm not sure, but I think that's the name.
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  A- anyway, aside from echo- this situation there, I think the most relevant thing
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  that happened also in relation to the last few articles which I posted on
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  theozagami.com, I'm not being super active, as you have noticed probably, but
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  that also the reason for that is that I have a super secret project that will see
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  the light in within the next two weeks.
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  I'm not allowed to say anything, is in collaboration with some very
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  important figures within the the disclosure, let's say, but the real
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  disclosure- Nice ... not the fake.
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  I'm talking about people at very high level.
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  And so- Okay ... it's gonna come out like in two week- in within two weeks.
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  I can, if you want, I can tell you the title of the project, and that's it.
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  In two weeks I will tell you the rest, because otherwise I will
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  get in trouble with my colleagues.
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  Oh, title
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  please.
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  There you go.
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  So the title is The Vatican's Top Secret Alien Agenda: Hidden Encounters-
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  Ooh ... Forbidden Rituals, and Jesuit Astronomers in the Age of UFO Disclosures.
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  And that's it.
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  Oh my God.
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  That's a good tease title.
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  That's a good job.
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  Good job.
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  And there is some exclusive material in it.
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  There is the collaboration of one of the most eminent ufologists
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  in the world and some of the most important organizations in the world.
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  It's a very serious project.
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  I've been working on it for a few months now.
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  You bet.
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  And and of course, in a couple weeks I will be with you, and
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  I will present it, and you will understand the relevance of it.
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  I look forward to it.
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  That's
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  great.
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  Anyway, for the meantime, let's focus on what has happened with Tulsi Gabbard
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  and the CIA and MKUltra and the JFK assassination, because these are
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  very important things that we need to discuss and we need to acknowledge.
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  Definitely.
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  There is a whole controversy, and this controversy is basically following the
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  congressional hearings that involved MKUltra and the CIA whistleblower who
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  testified, and suddenly they came out that 40 boxes of JFK and MKUltra files-
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  ... That were previously under the purview of Director of National Intelligence,
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  Tulsi Gabbard Were taken back by the CIA.
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  The CIA, as and you have worked for them.
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  Yeah.
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  They don't have any authority here in the United States.
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  They have authority outside of the United States.
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  And so to actually- And so do you
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  have with your boss.
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  Pretty much.
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  And theoretically because-
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  Theoretically,
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  yeah
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  because here we are talking about an inner fight of the deep state of infinite
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  proportions- ... if you think about it.
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  Okay.
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  Now, as couple years ago, I published this book, which is volume 11, which
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  is focused on MKUltra, and also the links with Lee Harvey Oswald.
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  And that is the problem here.
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  It's not only MKUltra, it's also Lee Harvey Oswald, and of course,
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  the assassination of J- of John Fitzgerald Kennedy, which is the
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  matter which they still deem a high priority, and they didn't want even
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  Tulsi to have it in her office.
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  They apparently there has been a lot of talk around it, but let's make it
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  clear that the director of National Intelligence in theory is Tulsi Gabbard.
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  She presides over all the various agencies.
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  Now, we have what, 14, 15 of them.
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  She presides over all of them.
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  Now, as a spokesman for Tulsi Gabbard, of course, issued a flat denial, but that's
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  not the case when it comes to the usual mover and shaker, Anna Paulina Luna, who
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  is very active, as she likes to always put their hands- She's very- ... there with-
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  ... these days.
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  Wow.
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  I wonder who gave her that power.
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  That's pretty crazy.
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  She likes- The young turks.
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  The progress- She likes to dig deep, let's say.
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  Yep
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  And she's not giving up on the whole thing.
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  It's very important to understand that today bringing up MKUltra is a little bit
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  of a paradox because of course, the people who were responsible, they're all dead.
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  The victims are not, though.
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  There is still victims who are actually asking for
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  compensation, especially in Canada.
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  There is victims, of course, that have never been acknowledged in
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  other parts of the world, including here, the United States of America.
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  But because of the intention of using the plausible deniability, that's
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  why they did a lot of experiments in Canada in the first place.
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  However, the problem here is that the link, especially when it comes, when
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  it comes to Lee Harvey Oswald, because Lee Harvey Oswald, if you see him as a
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  loose cannon, if you see him as simply a guy who, that's it, Lee Harvey Oswald,
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  this is just like he, a lone gunman and the theory of the lone gunman.
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  But then we know that is a cover-up for something else.
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  We know that he had he, in the early '50s, he had been recruited while in
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  a marine base in Japan for MKUltra.
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  We know that eventually he will go to Russia, already in the hands of MKUltra.
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  He will then come back from Russia with the actual American Embassy paying
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  thousands of dollars for him to to come back, which is n- unheard of for
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  a guy who had been in the Soviet Union, and of course, had become some kind of
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  enemy of the United States because at that point, whoever from America left
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  their citizenship to go to the Soviet Union was already branded as a traitor.
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  So that's it.
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  However the situation here is that we have CIA Director John Ratcliffe on notice,
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  also by Representative Anna Paulina Luna.
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  Will she manage to get anything out of him?
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  I doubt it.
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  I doubt it, but, you know- Okay ... we hope that something
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  will eventually be disclosed.
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  But this demonstrates that unfortunately, even after so many
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  decades, the topic is rather fresh.
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  So let's let's explain to our audience maybe why MKUltra is
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  still a problem for the system.
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  I think basically when, when you consider that MKUltra today is the product of its
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  age, it was active mainly between 1953 and even earlier, let's say 1950 till 1973.
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  Even if 1953 was the year they formally called it MKUltra because it was called
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  in various ways before, finally calling it MKUltra, this mind control that
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  they wanted to exercise, especially through the experimentation of drugs
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  like LSD Today that will be laughable.
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  Okay.
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  We are living in an era in which, as even as a veteran, we only had a few weeks
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  ago Trump in the White House discussing the use of psychedelic drugs for veterans
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  and opening, that possibility because it seems that it actually helps people.
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  However, in the 1950s and '60s when this whole human mind control
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  and psychological manipulation w- experiments went on, what happened?
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  It happened that they had, of course experiments all over the world,
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  not only in the United States.
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  And I can tell you that also from a very personal, because my
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  father at one point was actually working in this MKUltra program in
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  France, in Paris at the Sorbonne.
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  They had a specific experiment that was going on, an experiment amongst
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  young doctors in psychiatry who were taking LSD and then they will...
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  he explained me, my father for example, like there were five or six doctors,
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  and certain doctors will take the LSD, certain others will not take the LSD.
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  Then at the end of the night they will have to report on who was the one
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  who took LSD, what kind of reactions compared to the ones who didn't take it.
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  And all this of course very- You
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  know, that's amazing.
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  I di- I thought it was just in the US, like Fort Detrick and some other areas.
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  No.
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  There is actually-
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  Wow
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  ... we found, imagine, even in Norway where I was living back in the days in Oslo,
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  a clinic which was called Lovisenberg, which was involved in MKUltra.
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  Wow.
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  So there was a variety, within the whole NATO, let's say, alliance.
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  Wow.
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  And of course because it was done out of the national territory would be
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  even, let's say, easier in a way to then act with the clause of plausible
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  deniability and then of course the laws.
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  They were very good at mystifying and trying to manipulate the
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  various authorities in not taking...
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  But my father, for example, told me he met once an MKUltra agent who
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  was from the Basque region in Spain.
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  In Greece in the '70s, early '70s, he was the biggest LSD
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  dealer in the whole of Greece.
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  Wow.
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  And there is also reports of a similar guy who was arrested and then released
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  by the Italian authorities because- he had infiltrated also a terrorist group
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  in Italy who was doing the same thing.
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  Wow.
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  So you see, it's much bigger than simply, you know- what a
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  huge web.
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  I had no idea.
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  Incredible
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  ... and when they recruited, like I explained in volume 11, here I
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  talk also about my father, I talk about the various experiments.
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  But I talk also about Lee Harvey Oswald being recruited because he
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  willingly joined the experiments.
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  And at that time, there were already the first experiments also in implants.
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  Wow.
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  Now, we're not talking about sophisticated implants.
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  Don't imagine anything like we could have nowadays.
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  We are talking about simply triggering a small electric reaction
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  in your brain so you will be doing something in a certain way.
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  And these experiments apparently involved even at one point Lee Harvey Oswald,
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  though this was then convened by a guy who wrote... i- there was a book that came
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  out in 1967, which was a very, the very...
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  This book here.
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  We Were Controlled.
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  Okay?
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  Now, this book was apparently written by by a guy who, of course, wanted to hide
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  himself, so it wasn't really the real name
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  But he was very high up.
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  Wow.
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  And what he reveals in this book is still shocking to this day in all the
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  various experiments that were done.
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  And of course, I think that this guy here that presented himself in front of
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  the Watergate he was convicted, and he was probably the most influential guy
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  In the whole JFK thing this was in front of the Watergate committee, but
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  he was actually, he was Howard Hunt
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  Right.
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  And apparently it was him who actually wrote that book.
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  But we, we don't know that
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  for
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  sure.
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  Yeah.
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  Because definitely was always left there in the air.
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  However, going back to this whole situation, when it comes down to MK
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  Ultra and JFK, there is definitely things that still to this day
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  will of course create a problem.
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  Like I said, not so much for the m- doctors involved or the people,
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  the various intelligence officers who have been long dead probably.
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  But of course they will show and they will prove that The Manchurian
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  Candidate narrative is not just simply, a book that then became a
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  film, that then suddenly disappeared when you have the murder of JFK.
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  Because The Manchurian Candidate was more than a movie.
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  It was about revealing the truth.
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  JFK had to talk personally with Frank Sinatra about it, and eventually give his
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  permission directly to Frank Sinatra to go and move forward with the whole project.
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  Wow.
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  So maybe w-
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  So many different things.
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  Yeah, the MK Ultra, Manchurian Candidate stuff, but so many other
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  things, controlling the population with that still ongoing, I'm sure.
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  There-
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  Yeah.
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  Let's say this, that once they understood that certain experimentation concerning
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  especially drugs had reached their peak level and couldn't really bring any
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  other result, that's when in 1973 they already destroyed so much evidence.
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  Because then the year after there was a scoop, I think on the New York Times or
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  one of these publications, and then at that point it became a public domain that
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  they had been doing this MK Ultra thing.
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  Which was a program with 162, I think, sub-projects.
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  So it was a very complex program also to analyze because you had a whole diff-
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  different projects within that were doing completely different things And you have-
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  Another reason why they have it in, they had it in all those different
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  countries, because it's compartmentalized.
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  So they, they want a certain information about this, and they have th- these
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  doctors work on that, and they don't know anything about the other doctors
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  working on their project, and they just take all the information and, use it.
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  And none of the doctors have any idea that it's for, bad purposes, illicit.
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  Absolutely.
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  And then you had also the fact that there were certain centers,
• 24:21
  certain institutes that were used.
• 24:24
  Oh.
• 24:24
  Here in California we had the Esalen Institute.
• 24:28
  Have you ever heard of them?
• 24:30
  Yeah.
• 24:30
  Yeah.
• 24:31
  The Esalen Institute was very much with their facade of, new age spirituality.
• 24:40
  Yeah.
• 24:41
  It was the ideal place where they could then, behind the
• 24:44
  scenes experiment certain things.
• 24:47
  Let's not forget that it was Adolf Huxley, The Doors of Perception, but
• 24:54
  also a guy who, aside from being a very good writer, was also involved
• 24:59
  with mind control, and for that reason moved to the United States.
• 25:03
  Yeah.
• 25:04
  This is gonna re- lead to, we'll talk about this a little bit, further into the
• 25:07
  show David Wilcock and New Age movement.
• 25:10
  Okay.
• 25:10
  Yes.
• 25:11
  That's all MKUltra.
• 25:13
  You start to look on it from another angle, 'cause I was involved with
• 25:16
  it, and I was like, "Something's not right here." So I just pulled out
• 25:19
  of it, and I started looking at it from a d- a different point of view.
• 25:22
  And the people are very MKUltra in New Age stuff.
• 25:26
  Okay.
• 25:26
  Let me tell you my experience- Yeah ... with David- of course, the guy has died.
• 25:32
  I have respect- Yeah ... for people who die.
• 25:34
  Absolutely.
• 25:34
  I'm not like about bashing people, but I have to be honest, he bashed me with no
• 25:39
  reason when I was in a very weak- Really?
• 25:42
  Yes.
• 25:42
  What happened was that in 2010 2011, 2010, my father, I think that it was just
• 25:50
  before or after my father had just died.
• 25:52
  And and and I was trying to, my, my wife my, my current wife has
• 25:58
  come to live with me in Italy.
• 26:00
  We were establishing ourselves there, and I started to publish these books
• 26:05
  in Japan, which were very successful.
• 26:08
  The first two books were done with Benjamin Fulford- Yeah ... who
• 26:12
  used to work for Forbes, who I knew for a few years, and who I went
• 26:16
  and me- met personally in 2009-
• 26:19
  Nice
• 26:20
  ... in Tokyo.
• 26:21
  When I went there to Tokyo, in Italy, they had just it was rather, let's
• 26:28
  say a synchronicity and that is quite interesting, but also a coincidence
• 26:33
  because there wasn't anything that I willingly did for that reason.
• 26:37
  I didn't go to Japan for that reason.
• 26:39
  However, it happened that these Japanese were stopped at the border, I
• 26:45
  think with Switzerland, I'm not sure, and they had this bunch of bonds.
• 26:50
  We're talking here about trillions, but they were ... But the whole thing
• 26:57
  was apparently connected to this Dragon family, this Chinese Freemasonry
• 27:02
  that was financed at the time when
• 27:05
  Now we're talking about Taiwan, for example, at the moment because
• 27:09
  Taiwan is all over the news.
• 27:11
  But for many decades I saw the interview Trump did when he talked about Taiwan, and
• 27:18
  he said that, they let it happen, this.
• 27:20
  Taiwan, let's not forget, it was a strategic move that was possible
• 27:25
  only because of Henry Kissinger.
• 27:28
  Henry Kissinger was the great guy if you wanna call him great, but great.
• 27:33
  Oh, yeah.
• 27:35
  Was the guy in charge of national security, basically, because he came
• 27:38
  up with this idea, first at an academic level, but then in a practical level,
• 27:45
  of using nuclear power to create a whole new world order strategy.
• 27:52
  And of course, the Chinese, after the takeover of Mao Tse-Tung,
• 27:56
  they were still a young country.
• 27:57
  They didn't have any nuclear power.
• 27:59
  They didn't have any nuclear arsenal.
• 28:01
  And for that reason, they could be blackmail in accepting Taiwan.
• 28:08
  Taiwan and China, they were one country before the communist takeover.
• 28:15
  A communist takeover that from the beginning of the 1950s onwards
• 28:20
  saw the buildup of what we now see as modern China, happened after
• 28:26
  the long march of Mao Zedong.
• 28:29
  Mao Zedong who is now revered and owned with his image on the
• 28:34
  Red Square and almost like a god.
• 28:37
  They even put his images in, all these churches in China have to accept to put
• 28:41
  his image almost like he's a saint inside.
• 28:44
  And including the Catholic Church who had to sign a deal, I talk about
• 28:48
  it in the book, in volume 12 of my Confession, a whole chapter about
• 28:52
  the Chinese and the Jesuits because they go back hundreds of years.
• 28:57
  A- anyway the thing is that the, they didn't have any
• 29:02
  nuclear arsenal, so it was easy.
• 29:04
  Kissinger simply said, "You do one thing wrong to Taiwan, we gonna nuke you like
• 29:11
  we did with Hiroshima and Nagasaki." And at that point, of course, China
• 29:17
  had to back off from their intention.
• 29:21
  When the empire had the, the previous, the Chinese empire had fallen to pieces and
• 29:26
  modern China came forward, it was actually all together, the project was together.
• 29:33
  Now this money, going back to the money that we were
• 29:36
  mentioning, there was this bonds.
• 29:40
  These bonds, and part- they were all part of money, and we're
• 29:44
  talking about immense sums-
• 29:47
  ... That the Americans had planted in Asia in order to finance
• 29:51
  anti-communist activities, maintain the countries in, under their control.
• 30:00
  Suddenly you have similar boxes full of bonds in South Korea.
• 30:08
  Of course, you have gold and bo- hidden also in other places, Filipino,
• 30:12
  China, like all these areas, okay?
• 30:16
  The thing is that when these two Japanese guys were arrested by the
• 30:22
  Italian finance police, and they were confiscated all this, because the
• 30:28
  Italians, couldn't even understand what was written on the passports because but
• 30:34
  these guys managed to go back to Japan.
• 30:38
  But the box with the stuff they actually had a suitcase briefcase, sorry, they
• 30:43
  were carrying full of this stuff.
• 30:47
  Was in the hands of the Italian finance police.
• 30:51
  Italian's finance police, when they started to analyze the content of it, they
• 30:55
  said that this is stuff which is probably connected to the American government.
• 31:01
  So then, they took contact and that.
• 31:03
  And in any case, at one point, Benjamin Fulford told me, "Can you
• 31:11
  help me out?" Because on behalf of the Japanese authorities to connect
• 31:16
  with the Italian authorities to see if we can maybe understand
• 31:21
  what we can do about this stuff.
• 31:23
  Well,
• 31:24
  I said, "Okay, no problem." I don't have a problem.
• 31:27
  Actually, I have people I know from my previous life within the
• 31:31
  structure of the New World Order.
• 31:33
  I know people even in the World Economic Forum.
• 31:35
  I know people who you know in, in, in the Principality of Monaco that were part
• 31:40
  of the World Economic... So I actually connected with my friend Daniele Dal
• 31:46
  Bosco, who used to be a treasurer in the lodge, but he was actually, he's
• 31:53
  still to this day a financial expert.
• 31:55
  He, I think he has a company in Swiss, I'm not sure.
• 31:57
  But in any case, he was connected with the ... His father is a former
• 32:01
  Italian politician or member of parliament And I said, "Do you want
• 32:07
  to sort this out? Do you..." Because Berlusconi at the time was in charge.
• 32:11
  He was the prime minister.
• 32:13
  So he said, "Okay." And so he connected with these people, and they then after
• 32:18
  showed the Japanese what the stuff that was confiscated, and they decided
• 32:23
  somehow to give it to this Daniele Dal Bo- to bring to the people to see if what
• 32:30
  the United Nations will do about this.
• 32:33
  Because here we are talking about sums of money which are out of order.
• 32:36
  That could change the destinies of a country, i'm talking about such... But
• 32:41
  the problem with all this money and this bo- is that if you are not the guy on the
• 32:48
  bonds written, and you are not the guy who is figuring as the intestate as the...
• 32:55
  You have to have the name on these documents, and they didn't
• 32:57
  have their own name on this doc- so the value is relative.
• 33:02
  Anyway we got involved various people, and then at one point, this whole
• 33:09
  thing Fulford we discovered that Fulford was working with the Chinese.
• 33:15
  Wow.
• 33:17
  And he was working with the Chinese through the Hongmen, which are these
• 33:21
  Chinese Freemasons who have members in both in mainland China, as well as Taiwan.
• 33:27
  Wow.
• 33:27
  Wow.
• 33:28
  And this form of Freemasonry s- that exists for the last two or three
• 33:33
  century, is a form of Freemasonry that has existed it's basically the
• 33:39
  J- the Chinese are very good at how you say, copying everything, no?
• 33:43
  We know that they steal everything possible imaginable.
• 33:46
  So when they saw Freemasonry, it was very successful in the
• 33:49
  s- the 18th century in Europe.
• 33:52
  They simply picked up the symbol, compass and square and all the rest,
• 33:55
  and they insert it in one of their own secret societies, which was actually
• 33:58
  rather ancient and so it didn't really have to do with classic Freemasonry.
• 34:03
  It's their own thing.
• 34:04
  Okay.
• 34:05
  It has- ... it has though six million members.
• 34:09
  It's very influential.
• 34:10
  They were so influential that the founder itself, because paradoxically,
• 34:18
  one of the most important lodges in, is in here in the United States, in San
• 34:23
  Francisco, in the Chinese community there.
• 34:26
  Wow.
• 34:29
  So the whole thing, I went to Japan, I went there, I saw this Masonic stuff,
• 34:35
  and he wanted to explain, I said, "Okay, so how was your initiation?" And Fulford
• 34:39
  said, "Oh they brought me downstairs, there was a bunch of skeletons, and
• 34:42
  they said, 'If you want to get back upstairs you have to take this oath.
• 34:46
  Otherwise, we're gonna leave you with the skeletons here, and you just
• 34:49
  gotta join them.'" It was very basic, and, Wow ... it's very practical.
• 34:54
  I then studied a little bit with a guy from San Francisco, one of the few
• 35:00
  Americans to join the Chinese... Because the thing is that they are also involved
• 35:06
  with preserving certain martial arts-
• 35:09
  ... The Chinese Freemasons.
• 35:11
  So I have a lot of respect for martial artists.
• 35:14
  I've been very passionate myself.
• 35:16
  So he explained me how a lodge of Freemasons, Chinese Freemasons
• 35:20
  works out, how you have this the key of the ceremony is the incense.
• 35:25
  The master of ceremony is this guy who goes around with a pair of, I don't
• 35:31
  know how you can... Now in English I don't know name, but always with
• 35:34
  this incense around and all kinds...
• 35:36
  I described a little bit of this I think in volume two of my Confessions.
• 35:41
  Anyway, I go back to Rome after being in Japan with my current wife.
• 35:48
  We come because she had lived many years in Japan so- Wow ... we went
• 35:52
  we live, I got this book deal in Japan, so everything was great.
• 35:57
  But then suddenly one day out of the blue, David Wilcock contacts me.
• 36:03
  He contacts me and through this I think it was called ASW, I don't know.
• 36:10
  It was like an elite form of social network.
• 36:15
  I don't know if you ever heard of the... A Small World it was called.
• 36:20
  That was the initials.
• 36:21
  I don't know if it still exists, but basically you can only access this, it was
• 36:26
  like a Facebook for multimillionaires that I had access only because my friend one
• 36:32
  from the lodge who s- who of course I knew very well said, "Oh, Leo, you wanna join?"
• 36:36
  I said, "Okay. I don't have any millions, but if you want me to join."
• 36:39
  And it's, it was like you join this kind of social network and it has
• 36:44
  very strict rules because the people you find on there, they're really big
• 36:48
  people, really from... So David Wilcock for some reason had joined this, and-
• 36:57
  Wow
• 36:58
  through I, I don't know.
• 37:00
  But anyway, he asked my phone number or I don't know if it was a
• 37:04
  Skype contact, so I talk with him.
• 37:08
  I talk with him and he's "Can you put me in contact with Benjamin Fulford?"
• 37:14
  And I'm like- Yeah, no problem.
• 37:16
  We wrote a couple books together.
• 37:18
  I'm sure he will be pleased to know that you are eager to, to...
• 37:21
  Because I heard about David Wilcock.
• 37:23
  It's not that.
• 37:25
  But I was a little bit skeptic because the way he introduced himself, it
• 37:31
  was like, "I'm this, that, and all the other." And I'm like, "Yes, okay.
• 37:36
  I didn't ask you to tell me who you are or you... for me, you could be any- you
• 37:39
  could be nobody, you can be anybody."
• 37:41
  But the way he introduced me, say, "No, because I'm, I'm, People say that I'm the
• 37:45
  new this, the new that, and I'm..." So he had a... I noticed he had a very big ego.
• 37:50
  But I couldn't care less.
• 37:52
  I said, "Okay." I remember I was with my wife in this little village near
• 37:56
  Rome, and we were talking with him.
• 37:58
  And so I said, "Okay, no pr- no worry. I give you the connection, the contact with
• 38:03
  the Benjamin Fulford." And so that's, the beginning of the collaboration.
• 38:07
  Then after a few months, I see that the guy is going on this, is doing these
• 38:14
  shows with Benjamin Fulford talking about all this thing about the bonds
• 38:18
  that in the meantime have gone out of control because then there was this NSA
• 38:23
  or former NSA guy who got involved who wanted to get General Alexander involved.
• 38:28
  All kinds of things happened.
• 38:29
  And so it became like... and actually I have somewhere doc- actually there, there
• 38:36
  is still documents that you can find online about, about this case because
• 38:41
  suddenly this guy moved the case against Berlusconi, the Italian government,
• 38:47
  for having taken this stuff originally.
• 38:50
  Wow.
• 38:52
  And even my friend Daniele Boscolo, which is the one I put in contact, so I felt a
• 38:56
  little bit... And then there was my name cited in the whole thing all over this,
• 39:00
  Then they eventually, after a couple of years, they gave up on this hideous court
• 39:05
  case because it didn't have any base.
• 39:07
  But- David Wilcock and Benjamin Fulford, who in the meantime I had stopped
• 39:13
  working with him when I discovered he was working with the Chinese.
• 39:16
  I, he came to Rome, he told me that.
• 39:18
  I said, "Okay, for me, that's it.
• 39:21
  I don't work with the Chinese." Eh, I have a, I say, "Whatever you want from me, but
• 39:26
  don't ask me to work with the Chinese." See I'm very strict with my values.
• 39:30
  I will never work for a communist.
• 39:32
  It's simply the way I am.
• 39:34
  You might, Thank you.
• 39:35
  Good job
• 39:35
  ... that, that's it.
• 39:36
  So I was like, "Okay." But then he was badmouthing me with Ben and David Wilcock,
• 39:42
  and they were doing shows, and they say, "Ah, Zagami, the P2," this, that.
• 39:46
  "Zagami wanted to kill me," said Benjamin Fulford at one point,
• 39:50
  and then Wilcock, "Oh, really?" And then, and then they were...
• 39:54
  So it was like I had presented somebody with good intention, with a good heart-
• 40:00
  Yeah
• 40:01
  ... and then suddenly after a few months I have this guy who has
• 40:04
  a massive audience because David Wilcock had a massive audience-
• 40:09
  Yeah
• 40:11
  ... slamming me and accusing me of things I never did.
• 40:14
  And so I felt a little bit when I came the first time here in the United
• 40:18
  States in May 2019, what happened was that my publisher, which is also your
• 40:26
  publisher for one of your books Brad Olsen, said, "Leo, I'm a contact in the
• 40:31
  desert." And I just arrived here in Palm Springs, where I have been residing ever
• 40:37
  since, and he said, "Come and visit."
• 40:40
  So I go there, and you had all the various people from Ancient Alien,
• 40:44
  all the various UFO- Yeah ... but the special guest of the event was
• 40:49
  actually David Wilcock that year.
• 40:53
  And Dr. Corey whatever his name.
• 40:57
  Yeah.
• 40:57
  So I was like, wow, man, maybe I get to see this guy and I get to tell him, face
• 41:03
  to face that he's an asshole basically , but apparently we were there I went in and
• 41:09
  out of this conference and this, and then I went there in the evening and then this
• 41:12
  guy comes to me and says, "No, but David Wilcock is very scared that you are here.
• 41:16
  He has eight bodyguards and he's locked up in his room." And I was
• 41:20
  like, "The pathetic little whatever."
• 41:25
  So that really ruined for me any credibility of the guy
• 41:33
  Yeah that's unfortunate.
• 41:34
  But is it- But also because in that environment- Yeah ... you
• 41:38
  have the New Age prevailing cult.
• 41:43
  Yes.
• 41:43
  That really is the point we wanna discuss here with you today, no?
• 41:48
  Nice lead in.
• 41:49
  Wow, that built the story perfectly for this.
• 41:51
  Good job.
• 41:52
  Now, one, one thing I wanted to share with you real quick is we have
• 41:54
  a fan in here, Terrena Vicariello.
• 41:57
  I've done some shows with her.
• 41:58
  She's really amazing.
• 41:59
  Brain chemistry and and so forth, brain health.
• 42:03
  So with Kennedy assassination, it became well-established practice of using
• 42:06
  trauma-based mind control in the masses.
• 42:10
  Challenger, school shootings, 9/11.
• 42:12
  I love Leo's information.
• 42:13
  Thanks for hopping on.
• 42:15
  So- trauma-based mind control is the plot of the Manchurian Candidate, and
• 42:19
  it is really what MKUltra was all about.
• 42:22
  Because aside from the use of drugs, you had electroshocks,
• 42:27
  you had sleep deprivation.
• 42:29
  You had basically a way of molding the person and creating
• 42:33
  even multiple personalities.
• 42:36
  Now we have also other things within the MKUltra which are interesting.
• 42:40
  There was a specific project that was conducted in San Francisco, for
• 42:43
  example, where they had a place where they are fueled with prostitutes,
• 42:48
  drugs, and all kinds of things, and then of course, San Francisco was the
• 42:54
  place to be, because then it became, in fact, the hippie central, no?
• 43:01
  But at the same time it had a dark side, because it was also
• 43:03
  the place where in 1966, Anton LaVey founded the Church of Satan.
• 43:09
  So th- there was a dark side to the Age of Aquarius
• 43:16
  Wow.
• 43:18
  Yeah Anna Luna, Paulina, she's, she's involved in all this stuff.
• 43:22
  She's involved with Jeffrey Epstein.
• 43:24
  She's involved with JFK, MK Martin Luther King, MLK because that was also some files
• 43:31
  that were taken from the office space.
• 43:33
  40 boxes, wow.
• 43:35
  And how did they get in her office?
• 43:36
  I
• 43:36
  mean, I- Okay, first of all, you have to understand that, they didn't have
• 43:40
  any jurisdiction, but obviously- Yeah
• 43:42
  the moment in which they arrived there, they must have arrived in a way
• 43:46
  that they gave them these 40 boxes.
• 43:48
  Yeah.
• 43:48
  Now, so that's it.
• 43:51
  And regarding to Anna Paulina Luna, she's a very ambiguous figure because
• 43:56
  she presents herself as a Christian.
• 43:58
  In reality, she's the daughter of a Jewish Sabbatean Frankist
• 44:03
  basically, because that's what it-
• 44:05
  Okay.
• 44:05
  Yeah.
• 44:06
  So she's a little bit ambiguous in her position.
• 44:08
  She seems to be always wanting to act as gatekeeper of great secrets- ... involved
• 44:15
  with the disclosure efforts mentioning the Book of Enoch and- That, that makes so
• 44:20
  much sense because when Netanyahu came, she was like, "Oh," it's
• 44:23
  like almost bowing down to him.
• 44:25
  I was like, "What?"
• 44:28
  Because her real name is not Anna Paulina Luna.
• 44:30
  It's not a real surname, Luna.
• 44:32
  Wow.
• 44:33
  It's not a real surname.
• 44:34
  You just blew this wide open.
• 44:35
  If you want, we can find it here on the internet, but it's not a real surname.
• 44:38
  It's a very Jewish surname connected with the Sabbatean Frankist
• 44:43
  milieu, which is the one that, as I discuss in The Epstein Files.
• 44:46
  So yes, there is always like a, this attempt to present herself as the one
• 44:52
  who is eager to give us the secrets, but then she's not really giving us much.
• 44:57
  No.
• 44:57
  Now let's make it very clear.
• 44:59
  I
• 44:59
  contacted her on the JFK stuff.
• 45:01
  We have James Files who, claims to be behind the fence, and his
• 45:05
  information is pretty rock solid.
• 45:06
  But they don't want anything to do with it.
• 45:09
  So I'm like, "Okay, you guys are phony. You're just just talking smack. That
• 45:12
  you're just trying to stir stuff up."
• 45:14
  They are actually disappointing a lot also, though, with the UFO UAP files
• 45:20
  because it's been a big nothingburger.
• 45:22
  A lot of those videos were already circulating, a lot
• 45:25
  of those documents also.
• 45:27
  If they don't start to have some more serious dump next time, it's gonna
• 45:31
  be even a more bigger disappointment.
• 45:34
  However, they never gonna reveal the truth because there is much more
• 45:38
  that links to reverse engineering and interest that of course, go with
• 45:43
  national security interests and so on.
• 45:46
  However, the problem with all these, promises that Trump has made during his
• 45:53
  pr- campaign, is that when you don't respect these promises made, promises
• 46:00
  kept, but you don't keep the promise.
• 46:02
  The promise was to absolutely have transparency on the JFK issue, to
• 46:09
  have transparency on the disclosure issue, to have transpare- on
• 46:14
  transparency on the MKUltra issue.
• 46:17
  I don't see that.
• 46:19
  MKUltra, by the way, it's an old thing.
• 46:23
  What they're trying to hide is certain connections to do with the
• 46:27
  assassinations that were carried on by these Manchurian candidates, and I'm not
• 46:33
  talking only about Lee Harvey Oswald.
• 46:35
  Because they even attempted to kill, as we know, Fidel Castro, and they even
• 46:42
  attempted to act abroad by giving LSD to heads of state and other things just to
• 46:49
  be able to, so there is a lot that they don't want to really disclose, and I
• 46:53
  don't think they will ever be disclosed
• 46:57
  Yeah.
• 46:58
  Sadly.
• 46:58
  The same thing with Epstein and Ghislaine, making them the whole
• 47:02
  focal point instead of- Okay, ... all those other people there.
• 47:07
  1,000- No, I mean- ... women have come forward
• 47:12
  It's the- And so somebody-
• 47:15
  I think that what you are actually mentioning now is the biggest
• 47:19
  disappointment of them all.
• 47:22
  Because, we still don't have clarity regarding the Zorro Ranch.
• 47:28
  The Zorro Ranch should be raided by 1,000 agents and digged up all over the place,
• 47:33
  because God knows what they're gonna find.
• 47:35
  But nothing is allowed, still to this day.
• 47:40
  And the property was bought by a guy who also is connected and
• 47:44
  is member of the GOP, who is a candidate, I think, in Kentucky.
• 47:49
  So these things are unfortunately gonna stain Trump's mandate,
• 47:55
  they're gonna stain his presidency, and I'm very sorry for that.
• 48:00
  But unfortunately we are also not really in the Golden Age.
• 48:04
  We know very well that when we go at the gas pump you as well as me,
• 48:09
  we live in California, so here is not even, people are lamenting and
• 48:15
  saying, "Oh, $4.50, $5 a gallon." Yeah.
• 48:18
  Come to California, because now it's really becoming ridiculous.
• 48:21
  It's
• 48:21
  it's gonna be $10 before-
• 48:24
  So it's, there's no Golden Age if you have these kind of problems.
• 48:29
  ... And if the Golden Age is simply for those people who have been there partying with
• 48:34
  Trump in Mar-a-Lago that is another thing.
• 48:36
  Sometimes bringing back things like MKUltra in the news, this disclosure
• 48:42
  project that they are trying to bring forward at the government level,
• 48:47
  now that seems to be a distraction.
• 48:50
  When we discuss the real intention of the boardroom and people are like, "What is
• 48:56
  the real intention of this boardroom?"
• 48:58
  The real intention of this boardroom is not only the boardroom, but there
• 49:01
  is also the bunker under the boardroom, and a medical facility, which itself is
• 49:08
  very important for Trump at the moment.
• 49:10
  Because they want to extend his life, thanks to a medical facility
• 49:14
  built under the boardroom.
• 49:17
  Oh, wow.
• 49:19
  So it gets deeper again.
• 49:21
  Interesting.
• 49:21
  So had this one guy on Craig Lung, who talked about s- it's,
• 49:25
  he's got a book, Silicon Satan.
• 49:27
  I've read his book.
• 49:28
  We've had some conversations.
• 49:29
  So he's basically talking about how all of the big tech and, on and on,
• 49:35
  'cause we're seeing the same thing with Epstein and political types and so forth
• 49:39
  high money people, they basically have something on each other All of them.
• 49:46
  And that usually is they've been with someone that's underage and they have
• 49:51
  video of it, and they all have it on each other, so if anyone gets out of line,
• 49:55
  that's their thing they're gonna reveal.
• 49:57
  So it kinda stands to reason that everybody that's in those high
• 50:01
  levels might have something on
• 50:04
  them.
• 50:04
  Yeah it's like the swamp can't be drained because any attempt to
• 50:09
  drain the swamp- All of it ... will automatically be blocked by some kind of
• 50:13
  blackmail that, it- it's pretty clear.
• 50:15
  I know that, you might still see a positive outcome from this presidency.
• 50:19
  I'm have a very, I'm a bit skeptical about that.
• 50:23
  Yeah.
• 50:23
  Because Marjorie Taylor Greene recently at the Ron Paul Ron Paul Institute was
• 50:29
  very clear about certain things that happened, and I think that in the end
• 50:34
  when she says that Trump said on their last phone call that they will hurt
• 50:38
  his friends, that is a genuine thing.
• 50:41
  It's something that should really alarm all of us.
• 50:44
  There is too many compromises to become rich in certain huh, to become ultra-rich.
• 50:52
  And then of course, as soon as you reach a certain level, they immediately
• 50:57
  send you a honeypot, like you mentioned, because when- Yeah ... this
• 51:01
  honeypot technique is old, very old.
• 51:04
  In the intelligence services been going on for decades and decades.
• 51:09
  However, while, let's say, prior to, prior to the '70s and '80s that
• 51:16
  liberalized the woman figure and everything, we might simply have a
• 51:21
  honeypot who was a prostitute, a normal woman of a certain age who goes with it.
• 51:26
  But because of the ethics and morals that were in place, that
• 51:29
  was enough to compromise somebody.
• 51:31
  Now, to compromise somebody, of course, the, it's the the
• 51:36
  pedophilia and the underage thing.
• 51:39
  That is the only way they can re- literally ruin you, and we
• 51:43
  have seen that with Matt Gaetz.
• 51:45
  Matt Gaetz, very naughty boy, Matt Gaetz, as they say.
• 51:49
  Matt Gaetz was the guy who was compromised and who was taken off the
• 51:53
  pi- out of the picture immediately.
• 51:55
  He was candidate to become head of the DOJ.
• 51:59
  Yep.
• 52:01
  And
• 52:02
  what- Sorry, during what was it?
• 52:03
  The, was it attorney general?
• 52:05
  Was it,
• 52:06
  No.
• 52:06
  He was supposed to become I think head of the DOJ.
• 52:09
  The position Pam Bondi had.
• 52:10
  Yeah.
• 52:11
  Basically, yes.
• 52:11
  That's right.
• 52:12
  Okay.
• 52:13
  So what happened was in one month they got rid of his candidacy
• 52:18
  and rid of him from Congress.
• 52:20
  Yeah.
• 52:21
  Wow.
• 52:23
  That's why some people are like yeah, we have to sit on this Epstein stuff."
• 52:28
  And Matt Gaetz knows a lot.
• 52:32
  And in fact I tend to listen to- He's not gonna talk
• 52:34
  ' cause he'll disappear if he does.
• 52:36
  He talks a lot, but he doesn't say too much because he knows that if
• 52:42
  he wants to keep on his last job that he has there on what is it?
• 52:45
  That news service he works for.
• 52:47
  Conser- I don't remember the name.
• 52:49
  Yeah.
• 52:50
  One of them.
• 52:51
  Yeah I can't remember.
• 52:52
  AON, I don't know, something.
• 52:54
  I don't know how it's ... But in any case, the guy went from being present
• 52:59
  with Trump at every single speech he was giving during the presidential
• 53:03
  campaign, there was always Matt Gaetz.
• 53:07
  And then now Matt Gaetz is nowhere to be seen, if not on TV and on
• 53:12
  a very peripheral, and he's not even a Congress member anymore.
• 53:17
  So they- That's what- they can get of you very fast.
• 53:20
  That's, yeah.
• 53:21
  So he's probably who's gonna disclose a lot of Gaetz talks back, catch himself.
• 53:27
  He's "Ah, when I'm in there I'm gonna do this and that." And all I, Epstein, all
• 53:33
  the stuff we know about him, that's true.
• 53:35
  There's no doubts.
• 53:36
  And "Oh, wow, somebody got to you, didn't they?"
• 53:39
  Absolutely.
• 53:40
  Now regarding instead what is happening with with Epstein
• 53:45
  the whole Epstein thing, Yeah
• 53:47
  there is of course an article I posted regarding Sophia the robot.
• 53:51
  Because Sophia the robot recently made her musical, classical
• 53:55
  musical debut on April 29.
• 54:00
  Everybody was applauding, but nobody mentions the fact that behind
• 54:05
  this robot behind Hanson Robotics, and behind the software that this
• 54:10
  robot is using, there was actually the financing of Jeffrey Epstein.
• 54:16
  And Jeffrey Epstein has financed a lot of things, a lot of things, and Sophia the
• 54:22
  robot in particular is quite interesting because in 2013, three years before
• 54:28
  Sophia was launched officially, she was turned on basically, before becoming the
• 54:35
  superstar of the robotic world Epstein had actually talked about this project
• 54:41
  and had mentioned the name Sophia for this project So we know there is now
• 54:51
  evidence, plenty of evidence that he financed this whole thing from the start.
• 54:57
  The software that is- was eventually used by Hanson Robotics it, it was
• 55:01
  financed by Jeffrey Epstein I don't know.
• 55:05
  Somebody's saying that she actually looks a little bit like Virginia Giuffre.
• 55:09
  I mean anything is possible at this point.
• 55:12
  Yeah, who was basically taken out.
• 55:14
  Or was she?
• 55:15
  You think she's in hiding or is, or was she really taken out?
• 55:19
  We, we really don't know.
• 55:20
  Yeah, we
• 55:20
  won't- one thing, one thing I know about Jeffrey Epstein is that the guy could
• 55:25
  be easily cloned because he actually had been working on that kind of projects.
• 55:31
  Yeah.
• 55:32
  So you know, this is all very much like Westworld.
• 55:36
  Yeah.
• 55:36
  I guess so.
• 55:37
  Yeah.
• 55:37
  So
• 55:37
  he was he looks like he was moving things in that direction.
• 55:41
  He was working with this Ben Goertzel, who is the AI pioneer
• 55:45
  who helped build Sophia the robot.
• 55:47
  It's interesting also that these characters always come from the
• 55:51
  same milieu of Sabbatean Frankist, Jewish Sabbatean Frankist.
• 55:56
  It seems like there is some kind of connection there.
• 56:00
  And then we had recently a big scandal.
• 56:04
  I don't know, the screen is all black on my side.
• 56:06
  I can't see.
• 56:07
  Ah, Westworld.
• 56:08
  Here it is.
• 56:09
  Westworld, that was a great movie.
• 56:11
  The original.
• 56:11
  Yeah.
• 56:11
  You saw that?
• 56:12
  That's, that's- The 1973 ... that's a great
• 56:13
  movie.
• 56:13
  I saw it when I was- Yul Brynner
• 56:14
  ... ages ago.
• 56:15
  Wow.
• 56:16
  I tell you one thing about Westworld and why I like it so
• 56:18
  much, because my grandmother was a great friend of Yul Brynner.
• 56:22
  They went both to the same acting school.
• 56:25
  Wow.
• 56:26
  She then teached acting also at the Actor's Studio.
• 56:30
  That's
• 56:30
  right.
• 56:30
  She taught acting.
• 56:31
  But yeah, Yul Brynner was definitely a great actor, so his impersonation
• 56:37
  of the black the cowboy with the black outfit there was incredible.
• 56:43
  Yes.
• 56:44
  Yeah.
• 56:44
  And it was like really g- when I was a kid and I used to watch it, it scared me.
• 56:50
  It scared me.
• 56:50
  It scared me that to see that the robots could really take over in that way.
• 56:54
  Yeah.
• 56:55
  But the thing is that China has demonstrated that.
• 56:58
  When one thing that we need to address is, I think this week we
• 57:02
  have all been privy, of course, to Trump's visit to Xi Jinping in China.
• 57:08
  Together with with Trump, there was a whole, a bunch of very important
• 57:12
  journalists that followed, huh?
• 57:14
  So from various ABC, NBC and so on, and ev- and even Fox, and every one of
• 57:21
  them talked about the robots in China.
• 57:26
  They dedicated large parts of their news to these robots, and they were fascinating
• 57:33
  by this, fascinated by these robots and how incredible these robots were.
• 57:38
  And there was also that, ... it was quite impressive to see that they are definitely
• 57:45
  moving forward- And I don't think that that America stands a chance against these
• 57:50
  people because they are very much ... we stand a chance as people who want to
• 57:57
  preserve something that is still pure, but we are a minority in this country even.
• 58:03
  Because us- you know, the new generations, they might be, willing
• 58:10
  to give up all their freedoms and take in a robot in their home.
• 58:15
  I'm not, a- and I never want a robot in my home.
• 58:18
  I saw the scene with Bret Baier from Fox News was ordering a sausage
• 58:22
  there, but nowadays you have robots even in the McDonald's in Beijing.
• 58:28
  Oh, wow.
• 58:29
  So it's like that is the future.
• 58:32
  Unfortunately, it's a very dull and terrible future.
• 58:38
  Le- Leo, I'm gonna switch internets because we're glitching.
• 58:41
  Yes.
• 58:41
  So let me do that sometime.
• 58:42
  So let me ... It's gonna be black just for a second.
• 58:45
  Be right
• 58:45
  back.
• 58:45
  Okay.
• 58:46
  Okay.
• 58:47
  Okay.
• 58:48
  No worries.
• 58:52
  As you are switching, I'm gonna stay on, so I'm gonna probably talk
• 58:57
  with your audience at this point, just to keep on the vibe going.
• 59:01
  There we go.
• 59:01
  We have discussed ... here you are.
• 59:04
  You are a bit be- you were you were not looking so good before.
• 59:06
  Now you're looking much better.
• 59:08
  There you go.
• 59:09
  Listen, somebody says, "Michael has been replaced."
• 59:11
  No, it's still Michael.
• 59:13
  Don't worry.
• 59:13
  There's no clone, there's no robot.
• 59:16
  And- Thank you, sir.
• 59:17
  People call me clone a lot 'cause when they wanna attack me.
• 59:20
  Yeah the clones and robots and all that stuff, yeah, I remember as a
• 59:23
  kid thinking, "Wow, that's gonna come someday." And I think maybe we're
• 59:28
  already there who knows how much- Who-
• 59:29
  how much the,
• 59:31
  China is demonstrating their superiority in this in this futuristic setup.
• 59:37
  Yeah.
• 59:37
  And unfortunately it seems like the American media who followed the Trump they
• 59:42
  were all very enthusiastic all about it.
• 59:45
  They were all like, "Wow, check out this robot.
• 59:48
  He can do this, he can do that." We're talking here about the biggest
• 59:52
  threat to mankind ever known, to the very future of our race.
• 59:58
  And then we have, this possibility that in 10 years from now we will be
• 1:00:03
  merging with the machine more and more.
• 1:00:06
  And I think that while here in the West we will encounter still maybe
• 1:00:11
  some, resistance, I think that in China they're gonna go for it.
• 1:00:17
  And so soon we're gonna see, Chinese going around half machine, half man, and that
• 1:00:21
  would be not a really a problem for them.
• 1:00:24
  Yeah.
• 1:00:24
  ' Cause, because the problem here, w- when I, ... Let's remember that the China is
• 1:00:30
  a country that is building up an army of robots already, and it's also building
• 1:00:37
  an army of cyborgs of people who are trying to already mix elements of the
• 1:00:44
  AI and robotics with their own system.
• 1:00:46
  Like you can actually give more power to your own feet if you put a helper there.
• 1:00:52
  Like- Yeah ... suddenly you are the bionic man that-
• 1:00:55
  Bionic, yep, absolutely.
• 1:00:57
  Yeah.
• 1:00:57
  They got legs that you put on, all kind of crazy stuff, and you can run.
• 1:01:00
  They'll keep you going for however many hours the battery pack
• 1:01:03
  lasts it's pretty impressive.
• 1:01:05
  Now, I think China, maybe they're show, they show us their stuff to
• 1:01:09
  try and in- intimidate us, and I think we hold a lot of stuff back.
• 1:01:14
  So I think we're very advanced.
• 1:01:15
  And this is one of the videos that's that they're releasing now
• 1:01:21
  Voilà
• 1:01:24
  It definitely shows that the future, also of the military,
• 1:01:31
  is very much connected with the
• 1:01:32
  robots Well done.
• 1:01:33
  All right, here they are.
• 1:01:33
  A1 San Diego, first battalion made up completely of humanoid robots
• 1:01:37
  all lined up ready for inspection.
• 1:01:39
  RA01, give me a salute.
• 1:01:40
  Acknowledged.
• 1:01:41
  And say something for the camera.
• 1:01:43
  Unit one operational.
• 1:01:44
  All systems nominal.
• 1:01:45
  Awaiting orders.
• 1:01:46
  Yeah.
• 1:01:46
  Wild time
• 1:01:51
  I- it's all fine and dandy, but if you have one of these guys knocking
• 1:01:56
  at your door and saying, "You need to be microchipped," or, "You need to
• 1:01:59
  be, wearing this bracelet," or we are monitoring you for your safety," whatever.
• 1:02:04
  I'm not really, I think that this is the biggest the biggest
• 1:02:07
  challenge that we have as humans.
• 1:02:08
  I
• 1:02:09
  think
• 1:02:10
  And- 'Cause I'm, I know you're martial art trained, I'm martial art trained.
• 1:02:13
  I got lots of guns everywhere, knives and all kind of guns.
• 1:02:15
  But
• 1:02:15
  you can't do anything against these people.
• 1:02:17
  Nothing,
• 1:02:17
  it's them.
• 1:02:18
  Yeah.
• 1:02:18
  These pe- these robots
• 1:02:20
  because- Like you said, if they come knocking at your
• 1:02:21
  door you're whatever they want.
• 1:02:22
  We have seen robots in China doing martial arts at- That's right ... a fast pace.
• 1:02:29
  Yep.
• 1:02:30
  But the difference is if, as, if you have a human martial artist that
• 1:02:33
  give you a kick, you might survive.
• 1:02:35
  If this guy gives you a kick, you're dead automatically
• 1:02:37
  because it's gonna destroy you.
• 1:02:39
  So we are talking about the strength of a thousand people in one of these p-
• 1:02:43
  monsters, but it's, it is definitely a Terminator kind of reality that we're-
• 1:02:48
  ... going to be facing and it's not really anything that I would be, encouraging.
• 1:02:55
  I think that I would be encouraging instead for the future of mankind to
• 1:03:00
  return to traditions, to return to reading books, to spending time with
• 1:03:06
  your family and friends outside of the internet, outside of robotics.
• 1:03:11
  The problem is that these p- these robots are gonna take the job of a
• 1:03:16
  lot of people, and AI also is gonna take the job of a lot of people.
• 1:03:20
  And so what is the human being gonna be left with if they can't work?
• 1:03:27
  Creativity
• 1:03:29
  Yeah.
• 1:03:30
  Creativity, I already imagine a lot of people that will be simply
• 1:03:35
  e- eating popcorn on their laying around slobs, and then in the end-
• 1:03:41
  I don't
• 1:03:41
  know
• 1:03:42
  Probably.
• 1:03:43
  But I think a lot of, But this leads us to, 'cause we were talking
• 1:03:46
  about the David Wilcock- There
• 1:03:47
  will be a lot of couch masters, masters-
• 1:03:49
  Yeah.
• 1:03:50
  Oh, yeah ... of the
• 1:03:50
  couch.
• 1:03:50
  A lot of couch masters, yep.
• 1:03:52
  And but I think that what we're moving in towards is a moving into
• 1:03:57
  higher spirituality, and I think that some of the churches, some of their-
• 1:04:01
  That is an interesting thing that you are saying- Yeah
• 1:04:04
  because in reality the capacity of the mind of doing certain things is not being
• 1:04:14
  really developed to full potential, and that's why now we could actually use this
• 1:04:22
  evolution to evolve also with using the more of our, the capacity of our brains.
• 1:04:27
  We use only a very small percentage of that capacity, and so we could maybe
• 1:04:33
  arrive to a new level of awareness, but also we could maybe trigger those
• 1:04:39
  those powers that were also part of some of these experiments that
• 1:04:44
  were done also with the MKUltra and everything else, that came after.
• 1:04:48
  Because after, if you remember, after MKUltra was exposed in the middle of the
• 1:04:54
  '70s, then in the late '70s, people like Michael Aquino and started to plant the
• 1:05:01
  seeds for another kind of mind control within the psychological operational
• 1:05:06
  units and also the, to experiment much more with spiritual things and, the
• 1:05:12
  whole thing of Project Stargate was about also triggering a use, the remote
• 1:05:17
  viewers that, that that, that actually apparently gave a lot of re- results.
• 1:05:24
  And at the same time you had in Russia, Russians doing the same thing.
• 1:05:30
  So there was a lot of things that have been experimented-
• 1:05:34
  ... Here in the United States and in Russia in regards to remote viewing, but also
• 1:05:39
  many other hidden faculties of the brain
• 1:05:44
  Yeah.
• 1:05:44
  So the the higher spiritual realms that's where I got my
• 1:05:47
  intuitive remote viewing abilities.
• 1:05:49
  So I did I was into Native American spirituality.
• 1:05:52
  Of course, I grew up Baptist and I enjoy the biblical.
• 1:05:57
  I still to this day, I believe in Jesus and all these different things.
• 1:06:01
  But it took me to a very high, meditation and taking my consciousness, understanding
• 1:06:06
  my consciousness, by working with the SEAL teams knowing that I can push
• 1:06:10
  myself to great ex- great extents.
• 1:06:12
  And then the meditation, shooting, the hand-to-hand stuff basically taught me to
• 1:06:18
  go into brainwave states that, helped me to go into those states of consciousness.
• 1:06:22
  So I think that is something that more people will start to tap into.
• 1:06:27
  And some of these religions that are very controlling, I think people
• 1:06:30
  are just gonna break free from them.
• 1:06:32
  Just our consciousness is gonna rise to a point here on earth
• 1:06:35
  that we're just gonna break free from a lot of this control system.
• 1:06:38
  Think about in 1984 when they launched that five-month experiment
• 1:06:43
  called Project Jedi which then was inspirational now for later on that
• 1:06:49
  man who stared at the go- goats then the both the book and the film, no?
• 1:06:53
  The whole thing.
• 1:06:54
  In the late '70s, like I said, and early '80s there was like
• 1:06:59
  Lieutenant Colonel John B.
• 1:07:01
  Alexander, there was Michael Aquino, there was this this p- this
• 1:07:07
  parapsychological research that was starting to really be formally
• 1:07:13
  used in, in manuals that came out.
• 1:07:16
  There is, I remember there was a manual called First Earth Battalion
• 1:07:20
  Operations that was published in 1979.
• 1:07:24
  Then you, you had so you had really a lot of interest within
• 1:07:29
  the military in developing these kind of things And then we- Yeah,
• 1:07:36
  there's a dark side of it though, I think.
• 1:07:38
  So there's a light side where you're connecting with God and that level of-
• 1:07:41
  I think that inevitably if you use it within the context of the
• 1:07:46
  military, then you will not be able to do it only for a good intention.
• 1:07:52
  You are simply operating under instructions, under orders
• 1:07:56
  that's why I never had military connections, ex-
• 1:07:59
  training or anything like that.
• 1:08:01
  And then the CIA, I did a, I came and did a lie detector test, and they were
• 1:08:07
  asking me all about my book 'cause I just wrote a book, The Intuitive Warrior,
• 1:08:10
  and I talked about, my powers of, consciousness and, knowing things and
• 1:08:15
  helping people stay alive and sending out prayer, love, energy, focus and so forth.
• 1:08:20
  And they wanted to know more about that.
• 1:08:24
  And
• 1:08:24
  as I talked to
• 1:08:25
  them- They
• 1:08:26
  want- They're like trying, they're trying to do mind control on me.
• 1:08:29
  They're tr- they're doing MKUltra on me, and I've been through prisoner
• 1:08:32
  of war camp training and all kind of crazy stuff over the years, and so I
• 1:08:34
  understood what they were doing, but I was like, "Why are they doing that to me?"
• 1:08:39
  And then eventually I found out a year later, I was like what's taking
• 1:08:42
  so long for them to promote me after I did their m- li-" And I'm sure I
• 1:08:46
  like blew their mind, their M- MKUltra mind control, program stuff away.
• 1:08:52
  And they a group came to me later and they said, "You actually failed
• 1:08:55
  it, but we're gonna pass you anyway."
• 1:08:59
  And I was... And then when I look back on that, it's like they couldn't control me.
• 1:09:03
  They couldn't control my mind.
• 1:09:04
  That's what they wanted so that they could use me.
• 1:09:07
  ... And when they couldn't do that, they just wanted to, kick me out, and eventually
• 1:09:10
  that's pretty much what they did.
• 1:09:12
  All right.
• 1:09:12
  So I left the CIA and then my world, came apart, kinda like you.
• 1:09:16
  You've had-
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  ... your parents No.
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  Yeah.
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  It's very good though that you didn't compromise because there is unfortunately,
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  you have to really for them be a blank sheet and you don't have to have any No
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  ethics and morals because those have to by- bypassed by the
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  instructions they give you.
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  Now that is the whole thing.
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  So MKUltra eventually, like we said, faded away, but the techniques
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  they created became part of a much larger and influential operation.
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  And then we saw that, for example when it was in 2012 under Obama, they eventually
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  with the Smith-Mundt they, they gave their permission finally The Congress
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  to do these operations, psychological operations on the American people.
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  So that is really what- because you see, up until that point, as
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  Americans, we were not really influenced by our own propaganda efforts.
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  However, the excuse that they put to, to change the law that had been there
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  for decades was that because you have certain minorities now here in America,
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  like for example, the Arab Islamic minority, they had to influence with
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  operations, psychological operations, they needed to have the permit to do
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  it to the whole American population.
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  So the American population suddenly is nor- is no- the Smith-Mundt Act
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  of 1948 meant that if you were, for example, in Europe, in Germany, in
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  Italy, in any other country of NATO, you could be brainwashed and you could
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  be subject to American propaganda.
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  That's why you have Voice of America-
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  Yeah
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  in the first place.
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  While instead after the reformation that was done, now they can basically,
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  there is nothing preventing the State Department and all the related agency to
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  distribute go- government-funded media and propaganda within the United States.
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  Think about it.
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  Yeah.
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  For over 60 years there had been a ban.
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  I think it was 2000, sorry I said 12, but it was 2013 the Modernization Act was
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  applied The Smith-Mundt Modernization Act.
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  And that was, I think, at the beginning because, their problem was the internet
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  has bypassed every known frontier.
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  We live in, in a situation where aside from maybe blocking, like we
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  just said earlier no, the website of some news agency in Cuba or the
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  government because they are at the moment under sanctions or whatever.
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  But generally speaking, anybody who just goes and change their own address
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  VPN, addre- whatever, they can bypass this problem, and they can access
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  to anything around the world, okay?
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  And that means you don't have the same capacity of
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  compartmentalizing the propaganda.
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  So they needed the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act, which in fact
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  I discuss amply in volume 11-
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  Yeah
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  to make sure that then with the internet... and now
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  we're all subject to control.
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  That's it . So it's just, yeah.
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  I,
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  I noti- I noticed it in the CIA, too, when that happened.
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  And John, and, Obama, John Brennan, they really started to c- come
• 1:12:59
  down on a lot of us in the the CIA that were doing the good stuff.
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  So like you and I- That's- ... we're constantly pushing back on,
• 1:13:06
  that control system like- Yeah,
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  no, I mean- So ... they, they they, they removed those necessary safeguards
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  that- ... made of the American people that safe haven also at a mind level.
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  In the sense that we were living our American dream without being bombarded by
• 1:13:26
  the constant negativity or the propaganda that was inflicted instead in countries
• 1:13:33
  like Italy or in countries like Germany.
• 1:13:36
  In Germany, the effort was the biggest because after they had lost the war,
• 1:13:41
  and now we have Trump who wants to even take away the troops from Germany.
• 1:13:47
  But back in the days, it was essential to have Voice of America and constant
• 1:13:54
  brainwashing through every single media outlet that had to be controlled.
• 1:14:00
  Even in Italy, every single media outlet will be controlled, and
• 1:14:04
  it's still controlled to this day
• 1:14:08
  So it's it- it, let's say that this legislation, and you said it very well,
• 1:14:13
  with Obama things started to change.
• 1:14:16
  Yep.
• 1:14:17
  And suddenly now we- we are we are all in the same ship, as they say, so
• 1:14:22
  wherever you are in the world, you're sub- subject to the same propaganda efforts.
• 1:14:27
  All over the world, yeah.
• 1:14:28
  There is no, because the, like I said, the internet has, let's say, broken that that
• 1:14:34
  barriers, those bar- those safekeeping barriers- Barriers ... that were in place.
• 1:14:38
  But-
• 1:14:38
  Absolutely.
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  Yeah.
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  All right, sir.
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  Again, a fantastic show.
• 1:14:44
  Thank you so much thank you so much.
• 1:14:45
  I- People can
• 1:14:46
  reach you, leozagami .com, and you also have a YouTube channel.
• 1:14:50
  Yes.
• 1:14:51
  I want to really st- stress once again that we are about to have a very big
• 1:14:59
  turning point in our history with with everything that is happening.
• 1:15:03
  Even with this soft disclosure that is ongoing but there is
• 1:15:07
  something really big behind it.
• 1:15:10
  And so let's say that 2026 is gonna be the year zero of something really big.
• 1:15:18
  And I'm glad that in a couple weeks I can come back here and I can
• 1:15:23
  present you a new product of a new literary product, which is also-
• 1:15:28
  gonna unveil a bunch of things to you and your audience that are pretty
• 1:15:34
  fascinating- Good ... and mind-blowing.
• 1:15:37
  So I'm glad that we are- that's all
• 1:15:38
  coming up.
• 1:15:39
  Good job.
• 1:15:40
  So we're gonna still be... No.
• 1:15:43
  Today was good though to- Yeah ... in the meantime, understand that we are
• 1:15:48
  on the same page when it come down to what is happening with this missing
• 1:15:53
  efforts in regards to MKUltra, JFK.
• 1:15:56
  We are always really in, in... W- we are not, never really given everything because
• 1:16:04
  unfortunately there is too many interests at stake And that is the big problem here.
• 1:16:11
  But people like you and me are instead trying to spread the truth to make
• 1:16:17
  people more aware and to actually guide them towards an independence
• 1:16:24
  also in, in the way they, they reason.
• 1:16:28
  They don't have to follow the herd.
• 1:16:30
  They don't have to simply say, "It's okay, I'm just gonna follow
• 1:16:35
  what they tell me to do." No.
• 1:16:37
  I think that we are about to see some big changes.
• 1:16:42
  And I also tell you that this disclosure thing with the UFO, UAP thing is really
• 1:16:49
  disappointing a lot of people that are thinking about bringing now some truths
• 1:16:54
  out without the government consent.
• 1:16:57
  That might really then trigger some massive panic and reactions.
• 1:17:02
  So we have to be very careful now about the next moves.
• 1:17:06
  Because think about it, America might not want to reveal certain things
• 1:17:13
  because of their own interest, but then another country might say, "Oh,
• 1:17:18
  I don't care, I'm gonna tell them," and at that point, what you gonna do?
• 1:17:24
  As we Americans have to be always spearheading this Western civilization,
• 1:17:31
  we should give the good example, and instead of refraining from, giving the
• 1:17:35
  truths about all these things, we should just say, "Okay, this is the truth."
• 1:17:40
  And as the gospel says, the truth should set you free, which is the...
• 1:17:45
  Is it is paradoxical that we have at the entrance of Langley in Virginia,
• 1:17:51
  the headquarters of the CIA written in big, "The truth should set you
• 1:17:54
  free." And instead the truth is never setting free anybody out of all the
• 1:17:57
  lies that they keep on feeding us.
• 1:18:00
  No?
• 1:18:01
  You bet.
• 1:18:02
  You bet.
• 1:18:03
  All the best.
• 1:18:04
  God bless you guys, and thank you for having me on.
• 1:18:06
  Bless you.
• 1:18:07
  We're gonna speak in a couple weeks, guys.
• 1:18:10
  Awesome.
• 1:18:10
  That's gonna be great.
• 1:18:11
  Prepare yourself.
• 1:18:13
  Thanks, guys.
• 1:18:13
  All the best.