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Jaw Cavitations: Could Your Wisdom Teeth Be Blocking Your Healing? | Dr. Christine Schaffner · The Shivan Show with Shivan Sarna

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  You know, when you get a scar, there's trauma, disappointment, there's all sorts of things.
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  And that emotional memory can also just create stagnation as much as these environmental stressors.
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  The mouth is so important for the rest of our health and our body.
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  The body is wise, intelligent, and divine, and it knows how to heal us.
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  Hi, I'm Siobhan Sarna.
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  I'm here in my Sit Next To series with Dr. Christine Schaffner.
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  Also, this is part of the Big Hair Edition.
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  I want her hair.
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  You think I have a lot of hair?
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  This is the one.
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  Like, I really want her to make a shampoo.
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  Let's talk about her like she's not here.
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  Dr. Christine Schaffner is a specialist in coherence medicine.
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  She's the first person I ever talked to about coherence medicine, and I was like, hey, wait, what?
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  Wait, what?
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  Would you just tell us what that means?
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  Yes.
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  It's a word that I was really drawn to as I was studying how I could help my patients heal faster.
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  And I really love the work of energy medicine and studying about meditation, quantum physics.
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  And I think we've all been through our own personal experiences.
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  We're
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  It's not just theory.
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  It's like, oh, wow, this works.
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  When we really combine our bioregulatory roots, which I can talk about that, with opening up to the possibility and potential of life.
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  And I define coherence medicine, so there's a technical definition of when two waveforms are in synchronization and there's amplification of energy for healing.
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  I think about that.
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  And we were talking actually last night
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  with other colleagues of ours and friends.
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  And I really believe it's, you know, this world, we have so many things that interfere with our connection to our higher self.
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  And that can be physical, emotional, the trauma.
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  And, you know, we're all on the planet and we all go through life, right?
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  There's seasons and storms and things when everything's great and not.
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  And
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  I think all of us need to trust our inner navigation system and really be in alignment on a very physical level.
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  Notice how we sit straighter and you say be in alignment.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  With our heart, our higher self, and we use that to navigate not only our healing, but, you know, our life's journey.
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  I find that when I'm, I can tell how I'm doing by how well I'm caring for myself, not in a selfish way, but in a self-preservation way.
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  So I can actually like be in that more coherent state.
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  So you just said bioregulatory.
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  And so that is not a term that I think is mainstream yet, yet, yet, yet, yet, yet, yet.
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  So help spread the word.
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  So what does bioregulatory mean?
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  I mean, I can kind of guess, right?
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  Yeah, it's a medicine that came out of Switzerland, Austria, and Germany.
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  And I was trained not only in naturopathic medicine, but bioregulatory medicine.
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  And it gives me this framework and this philosophy that really works when you're helping somebody recover from a chronic illness.
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  And it's this idea that the body is wise, intelligent, and divine.
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  and it knows how to heal us.
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  And when we're in an imbalanced state, what are those obstacles, those boulders in the middle of the road that are dampening that vitality that is running through our autonomic nervous system and our fascia?
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  And it's really a beautiful system because we start with this idea that
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  Everybody has unlimited potential in their health and their body doesn't need to just be fixed like a car, but we just really have to listen and identify what stressors have overwhelmed the body.
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  Is this terrain medicine?
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  Yeah, I think of bioregulatory medicine really is this.
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  idea of regulation and terrain medicine.
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  And that's another philosophy that's getting more out there.
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  We have wonderful colleagues like Dr. Naysha Linters and other bioregulatory doctors, and it's a way more empowering view to look at health.
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  So we're trying to really optimize the human being so that we can be very resilient and adaptable and we can respond appropriately.
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  to our environment and we're not victim or weakened or, you know, taken out of our purpose, you know, from our environment, but we're actually can do a lot of things to make our bodies healthy and vital and resilient.
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  One of the biggest barriers to healing that you taught me about is scars.
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  Yes.
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  I know you're very passionate about that.
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  Can you explain to people why scars are so important to address?
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  And the belly button is the first scar.
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  Yes.
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  Yes.
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  It is.
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  You know, the good news, bad news is that, you know.
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  Everybody has a scar.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  And you're here, so that worked out well.
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  Yes, totally.
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  Yeah, scar therapy is just a very rewarding therapy to do for people.
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  And when we talk about the fascia, the fascia is this fabric that helps us structurally and also in our biochemical and our biophysics communication in the body.
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  So it's really the health of the body is how well our systems communicate.
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  And when we get an injury that creates a scar, it creates an interruption in that original fascial fabric that it becomes more dense, more irregular, more kind of restricted.
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  You can kind of think of adhesions and it blocks the flow of communication, um,
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  lymphatic drainage.
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  If you look at the acupuncture system, it also can block flow of information through meridians.
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  Because it's more dense than irregular, things can actually kind of start becoming stagnant in that place.
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  So environmental toxicants or pathogens can kind of hang out there.
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  And then the water in that space and the lymphatics
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  It can be a storage memory.
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  So a lot of people will have, you know, when you get a scar, it's not usually a good day, right?
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  There's trauma, there's disappointment, there's all sorts of things.
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  And that emotional memory can also just create stagnation as much as it can.
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  you know, these environmental stressors.
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  And so we'll use neurotherapy, another technique from bioregulatory medicine that came out of Europe, specifically Germany about 100 years ago.
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  And we use procaine, which is a local anesthetic.
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  We get it compounded and we use 1% preservative free.
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  And some of my most sensitive patients really tolerate this.
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  And procaine has all these, you know, properties, but why we use it for scars is it helps to break down scar tissue.
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  So scars actually become visibly, cosmetically, like softer, less red.
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  Some scars like bruise or there's not good circulation.
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  Some they don't quite heal.
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  And also it helps create more fluidity in that space.
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  So there's kind of like a softening and a reintegration in the body.
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  And then, you know, what I've observed, you know, from patients is that they can have a very like body kind of fascial memory that it becomes, you know, their awareness is really present that, you know, this memory comes up and there's often emotional, you know, experience and release and it's not coming from the brain.
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  You know, people are like, that's not going to happen.
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  to me what what is she doing about yeah and then all of a sudden you know it's just you know the body is doing what it needs to do right and we trust that and that looks different to everybody some people emote some people shake some people cry some people just really are present and understand that this is
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  like really big.
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  And then there's just this lightning of the body.
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  And there is this flow and a place that has been restricted and stagnant and kind of hidden from the body.
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  People just start to move better.
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  It's part of their healing for sure.
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  It helps to reset the parasympathetic nervous system.
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  Yes.
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  So that's the one that is stress and...
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  What is it?
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  Rest and digest.
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  Fight or flight.
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  Or freeze.
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  Now we know people get frozen, too.
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  So parasympathetic is the fight or flight.
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  Parasympathetic is the rest and digest.
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  So you always get them confused.
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  Yeah, it's tomato, tomato.
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  So sympathetic, run from the bear.
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  Right.
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  And sympathetic, feel sorry for me because I'm stressed.
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  That's the way I have to remember.
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  Yeah, totally.
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  Thank you.
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  Okay.
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  And then parasympathetic, like you're chill.
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  You're chill.
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  After a massage, shavasana and yoga class.
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  Totally.
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  That's the best.
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  Meditation.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Breath warp.
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  All right.
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  Yeah.
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  Everything's okay again.
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  Yeah.
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  A reset.
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  Yeah.
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  A massive reset.
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  Exactly.
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  Let's talk about biological dentistry for a second.
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  Yes.
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  Because you were talking about how scars and stagnation in the body can inhibit healing.
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  Yeah.
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  A cavitation in the mouth is where you've had an extraction.
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  It's not a cavity, even though I guess technically it's kind of, but not like a typical, not like, oh, I ate candy as a kid and now I have cavities, which by the way, there's a lot of new research coming out about pH balance and different bacterias that are in there in terms of those old school cavities.
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  But talk about cavitations, if you will.
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  Yeah, absolutely.
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  So the mouth is so important for the rest of our health and our body,
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  And cavitations can be where there is a tooth extracted, and it could be through the wisdom teeth removal, or if somebody had a tooth that died and I needed to remove it.
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  And if the periodontal ligament is not taken out of the bone, or the infection that might linger around an impacted or dead tooth is not cleared properly, then what could happen over time is that...
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  bone doesn't get filled in with healthy bone it becomes a pocket or reservoir of necrotic dead bone and it can be a pocket for stealth pathogens to hang out and then they kind of hang out on your mouth and we know that the mouth is then true to the body and so it can affect the lymph and the vagus nerve and you know the circulatory system and
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  It can be this chronic poisoning of your system.
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  It can go up to the sinuses, the brain, down to the gut.
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  And then we look at the acupuncture meridian chart.
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  So every tooth is on an acupuncture meridian, and it can create a lot of stress in that organ system if there's a chronic focal infection, we call them.
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  And so the wisdom tooth area is small intestine, endocrine, and circulation.
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  So that's a very common place where people get blocked.
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  So I have a cavitation surgery because I had my wisdom teeth out right back in the day.
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  And then you get a 3D cone beam.
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  So they can see.
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  It's not regular x-rays.
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  You get the cone beam so they can see everything.
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  You can often see the sinuses at the same time.
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  Yes.
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  See if you have a sinus infection.
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  What's the surgery to get it addressed?
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  Yeah.
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  And you have to go to a dentist that is aware of these because not every dentist will acknowledge and be able to look at the 3D skin.
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  So, you know, what happens, you go to a really great trusted bioregulatory biological dentist, right?
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  Yeah.
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  And you always work with a doctor alongside your dentist because they need to hold like the surgical piece.
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  And then, you know, you need a good doctor to help you support the drainage and detoxification in the immune piece.
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  So when you have cavitation surgery, the dentist will open a little window or hole in the jaw
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  They'll use tools to use vibration and to jiggle out, you know, dead tissue.
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  It's often, you know, like dentists describe it as like oily or, you know, should be solid bone, right?
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  So it's like mushy, oily, dead bone.
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  They take that out.
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  They rinse that area with ozone, which is a strong antimicrobial agent and a strong oxidative therapy.
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  And then prior to doing the surgery, they will have had taken your blood and they'll spin it down and make a clot called a platelet-rich fibrin clot.
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  And then they'll sew it in that hole so that you have all these stem cells and all this activity that can really help support and heal the jawbone.
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  You truly heal from this and you create, lay down good bone.
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  And we also, of course, have you do minerals and vitamins and support your blood flow to that area of post-healing so that you can, you know, overcome and transform your jawbone.
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  So I've had this done actually four times.
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  Yeah.
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  And one time I had to go back and get it redone because you should do a cone beam follow-up to make sure that it's been cleared.
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  And I did a test to see what was growing in the pockets.
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  Let me just say, it was some funky town.
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  Yeah.
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  I know when I told you it was like something related to typhoid.
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  I mean, crap.
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  crazy stuff and you're like you didn't even like bat an eyelash you're like no i'm like oh yeah you know we see everything yeah yeah she wasn't like rushed to the emergency room go get an iv of glutathione she wasn't like that at all she's like oh yeah yes and everything well it's yeah it's wild because if you're not used to hearing all this information it can sound like okay it's
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  where do I resonate with this?
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  But the biopsies, they'll send it to get PCR'd, so you're encultured, so you know what's growing in that area.
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  And it's often viruses, Lyme and co-infections, amoebas, candida.
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  I mean, it's wild.
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  Yeah, they're just like, it's a resort for bad stuff floating around in your body.
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  The immune system can get to it.
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  It's pretty hard because it's like surrounded and kind of isolated.
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  But there's linkage.
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  Yes.
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  The bad stuff leaks out.
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  Yeah, it's always leaking.
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  Seepage.
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  Yeah.
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  What good word is sexy.
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  Love a good sexy word.
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  Small intestine bacterial overgrowth.
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  Yes.
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  Fun to write a book about that, Siobhan.
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  Okay.
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  One tip that I have for you is there's a magic mouthwash.
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  Yes.
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  Which I think you and Helen, you told me about, which is a lidocaine mouthwash that they use for cancer patients who have lesions in their mouths.
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  God bless.
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  After chemo.
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  And can you talk to us about that?
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  Because that thing, that saved me.
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  Yeah.
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  Everybody needs different tools and that's why you really want to work with people who will listen to your body and really help you.
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  So we'll either put people on antibiotics or not after a surgery.
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  We'll use ozone, silver, HOCO, or even a mouthwash that you can compound at your regular compounding pharmacy.
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  And it has
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  like an anesthetic to help with the pain.
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  And then it has anti-inflammatory and antifungal.
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  And it helps to just keep the microbiome healthy, reduce stress and help make the patient really comfortable as they're recovering.
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  So mine didn't have antifungal.
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  All it was was the... Lidocaine?
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  Yeah, the lidocaine.
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  Yeah, often they do with magic mouthwash.
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  If you look it up, you'll see that you can add an antifungal to it.
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  That's nice.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  Because a lot of people get thrash, you know.
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  Right.
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  So what's the ingredient you like for that?
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  A nice statin.
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  Nice statin, yeah.
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  And what was the other thing you said that goes with it?
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  Lidocaine and sometimes an anti-inflammatory.
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  Yeah, so...
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  Nice.
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  It doesn't last long, by the way, this mouthwash, like it has a short shelf life.
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  So just be aware of that.
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  But if I can help anyone be out of pain after oral surgery, canker sores, things like that, you know, I'm doing my job.
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  So you really help people with complex cases.
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  Yes.
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  Like if you're sitting here and you're like, I don't know who to go to.
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  I feel like I have a laundry list of stuff that is wrong with me.
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  What kind of people do you treat or what are some of the things that you treat?
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  Yeah.
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  So long COVID, you know, that's made everybody's terrain really interesting.
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  You know, we've learned a lot and we have a lot of great things we can do for these folks.
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  Mass cell.
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  So people are becoming more sensitive as our terrain stressors are increasing.
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  So that's a really rewarding patient population to treat.
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  I see a lot of people with what we call dysautonomia or POTS or nervous system dysregulation where they just feel tired and dizzy and brain foggy and gut pain and all sorts of things all day long.
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  And then we look at, you know, the ecosystems of the body.
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  So often people will have lymic co-infections, a fungal infection.
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  They'll have parasitic infections, viral infections.
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  And that's, you know, lowering the load while, you know, supporting the immune system and rebuilding the immune system.
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  And then also draining and detoxing the body so that it's stronger, you know, as well.
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  What are some of your favorite tools right now?
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  As I'm taking notes with my handy dandy pen, what are some of the tools that you're liking?
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  Last night at dinner, you mentioned several things to me.
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  We're going to write them down.
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  Exosomes.
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  Exosomes.
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  So regenerative medicine has been like the wild west since I've been practicing 15 years.
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  And I finally feel like,
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  You know, we have some really great legal, you know, regulatory support for us to do this work in the country.
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  And then there's certain things we do out of the country.
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  And then there's certain formulas or techniques that we can also give while somebody is recovering to give them more energy.
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  and support healing and repair and less inflammation along their journey.
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  So we used to think you have to really support the body and get them to a certain place before you give regenerative medicine.
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  But now we have exosomes and peptides that really help support people heal and recover from.
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  All these things that we talked about.
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  And you can do it simultaneously.
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  Yes.
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  So you're strengthening as you're killing or rebalancing or whatever.
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  So exosomes, that just makes me think exoskeletal is just like from a shellfish or a bug or something.
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  Yeah.
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  So exosomes are these microvesicles that come from all of our cells.
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  and how exosomes are currently made in the country are we have pre-COVID lines where women who have a C-section, they donate their umbilical cord and Morton's jelly.
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  They're monitored, they're tested, and that's a highly regenerative tissue.
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  When you think about the health of the baby in the mom's belly, it's dependent on the umbilical cord.
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  So if anything gets twisted or impacted, that tissue knows how to regenerate and repair.
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  Like how well, that's amazing.
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  Yeah.
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  Someone taught me that a couple of years ago and that clicked for me.
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  That makes sense.
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  Yeah.
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  So we extract cells from this tissue, and specifically the micro vesicles that the cells secrete.
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  And these micro vesicles have micro RNA, not messenger RNA, micro RNA.
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  Are you saying vesicles like testicles?
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  Yes.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  Vesicles.
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  Vesicles like testicles.
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  Yeah.
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  Welcome to my brain.
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  I know.
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  Totally.
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  Totally.
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  Whatever helps, you know?
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  Yeah.
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  The micro vesicles have micro RNA.
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  So they're very small in size.
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  So you can have them IV.
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  You can have them injected.
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  You can nebulize them.
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  And they're very small in size that they can get to different spaces in the body that need repair and the brain.
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  So they are regenerative.
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  And what's really cool about them too, I can't spout all of them off the top of my head right now, but when you look them up, there's like 20 to 30 known anti-inflammatory cytokines.
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  That they deliver to the body.
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  Wow.
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  Yeah.
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  So most people feel less inflamed.
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  They feel more energy.
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  I had one patient who said her REM sleep and her deep sleep scores finally went up after trying everything.
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  If you have kind of beat up connective tissue or joints from the wear and tear of Lyme,
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  And all of this stuff.
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  Yeah, you can inject them in the joints to help repair.
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  You can also use it topically in the face.
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  After microneedling, they're really awesome.
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  They just give people relief along the way, you know, and help us get momentum to along the way.
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  You've been talking to me about these for years.
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  Yeah.
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  And I went to an esthetician where I live, and she had exosomes.
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  They were very expensive.
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  And we didn't use up the whole vial while I was there.
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  So, you know, I saved them in the refrigerator for 24 hours or whatever.
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  And then she stopped carrying them.
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  Yes.
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  Because I don't think enough people knew about them to make it lucrative for her.
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  Yeah.
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  So...
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  How do we find a source, a person who knows how to do this, pre-COVID American exosomes?
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  You'll often look, most of these people say that they do regenerative medicine.
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  And on their website, they might talk about peptides, exosomes, stem cells, or have a regenerative philosophy.
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  Right.
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  There's a company in the US called Chimera, K-I-M-E-R-A.
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  They have a really good source.
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  You could call them and see if they let you know with any... You can backward engineer it.
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  Yeah, totally.
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  Or you could Google that.
• 22:16
  Ask Chachy Bt.
• 22:18
  They know a lot.
• 22:18
  Yeah.
• 22:19
  So those are great.
• 22:20
  And then peptides I've been using for five or six years.
• 22:25
  They can be challenging to source, but we have some great companies that have oral...
• 22:30
  versions and then injectables are a little harder to source nowadays.
• 22:34
  But my favorite peptides are there's BPC-157, which is great for inflammation, reflux, high histamine.
• 22:43
  Wow, reflux.
• 22:44
  I didn't know that.
• 22:44
  Yeah, pain and inflammation.
• 22:46
  If you've had a TBI or traumatic brain injury.
• 22:50
  We also have thymus and alpha-1
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  one of my favorite peptides.
• 22:54
  Really good for that low immunity, that person who's kind of been beat down by COVID like five times or had chronic Epstein-Barr or just really needs more support for their immune system.
• 23:07
  There's Thymusin-Beta-4 that's highly regenerative and repairing.
• 23:11
  There's also good research on repairing the heart and the brain, especially post-stroke, post-myocardial infarction.
• 23:19
  There's GHK copper, which helps with connective tissue and can be used aesthetically.
• 23:24
  There is lorazotide, that's a zonulin antagonist that helps to heal the geek gut.
• 23:31
  I use KPV sometimes.
• 23:32
  KPV can help with mast cell folks.
• 23:34
  When it works, it works, I feel like.
• 23:37
  I'll use GLP-1s microdosed to help stabilize mast cells and reduce inflammation.
• 23:42
  Our good friend Tina Moore taught me about that, and it really does help.
• 23:46
  create a good stability and good foundation for those highly sensitive folks.
• 23:51
  And it's low dose.
• 23:53
  For people to lose weight, usually we start at 2.5 milligrams, and this is the 0.05 milligrams.
• 23:59
  So it's just a different animal.
• 24:01
  It's drop.
• 24:02
  You have a droplet.
• 24:03
  Yes.
• 24:03
  It's a very low amount you inject.
• 24:06
  And this is what I think about all the time.
• 24:08
  If you think that one little droplet might not be enough, think of the potency of a birth control pill and how tiny that pill is and what it does to your body.
• 24:16
  So these are potent.
• 24:19
  Yes.
• 24:19
  They're really potent.
• 24:21
  In America, I think we're like, more is better.
• 24:22
  I got to take six of these, blah, blah, blah.
• 24:24
  But like even a – like I microdose trizapatide and it's literally a droplet.
• 24:32
  And oh my gosh, if I don't take it, my blood sugar definitely struggles.
• 24:36
  And it's miraculous.
• 24:37
  I mean, it really makes a difference.
• 24:39
  And of course, everyone's different and depends on how sensitive you are and stuff like that.
• 24:42
  But yeah, even a drop will do.
• 24:45
  Yeah.
• 24:46
  And we make it.
• 24:46
  It's a natural, you know, regulatory peptide in the body that our brainstem and our gut microbiome make.
• 24:53
  A lot of us have challenges that affect production and receptivity of, you know.
• 24:59
  Can you cocktail all this?
• 25:01
  Yeah, you can stack a lot of this.
• 25:03
  And then there's oral formulas that combine some of these together.
• 25:08
  Peptides, except for probably the GLP ones, should be rotated.
• 25:13
  There is some conversations about stimulating angiogenesis, which is good.
• 25:20
  But if you're kind of in this like very vulnerable state where you're on the edge of, you know, maybe having a cancer, it's more like you don't want to take him every day for a year.
• 25:30
  You want to take him for like six to eight, 12 weeks, pause, do another, you know, you just want to pulse, you know, just like anything in life.
• 25:40
  Okay.
• 25:40
  That's really, really great information.
• 25:42
  Yeah.
• 25:42
  Okay.
• 25:43
  How could someone work with you?
• 25:45
  I would love to work with them.
• 25:46
  I see patients from all over the country, and then I'm in Boise, Idaho, and I have an office there.
• 25:52
  And yeah, we do telemedicine and all sorts of things.
• 25:56
  So you have ozone there.
• 25:58
  You have HBOT.
• 26:00
  What's EBU?
• 26:01
  It's where they filter your blood.
• 26:03
  You take the blood.
• 26:03
  It goes through a filter.
• 26:05
  Ozone goes through a lot of different wavelengths of light and give it back to you.
• 26:11
  And it's highly anti-inflammatory.
• 26:13
  It helps to reduce burden in the body.
• 26:16
  And it's been really lovely for my long COVID people.
• 26:20
  It's all timing when you do that, of course.
• 26:22
  Because I did it once and it was too soon.
• 26:24
  Yeah.
• 26:24
  And it did not go well for me.
• 26:25
  That was a couple of years ago.
• 26:26
  Upon reflection and review of where I am now, I think I'm probably six months away from being in a better, you know, that space where I'd be like, oh, yeah, that's be perfect, right?
• 26:35
  Yeah.
• 26:36
  Just come do that with us.
• 26:37
  I would like that very, very much.
• 26:38
  Okay.
• 26:39
  What do you want people to know before we wrap up?
• 26:42
  And thanks for doing this, Wendy.
• 26:43
  Of course.
• 26:44
  I want them to know that Siobhan is wonderful and puts amazing content out there.
• 26:50
  She's a great new friend.
• 26:51
  I'm Jake.
• 26:52
  She's always creating such an amazing lineup of all of our colleagues and experts and just listen to her.
• 27:00
  So that's one thing.
• 27:01
  And then...
• 27:02
  You know, I think a lot of people are struggling there out there, you know, and I think that we're just so dedicated to getting this information out there that there's a path for all of us, right?
• 27:13
  And especially when you, you know, have your quiet moments, listen to yourself and to your heart and to your body and, you know, put this out there that you attract the right people and the right information and the right methodology for you to,
• 27:28
  you know, be on the path for your highest potential in this lifetime.
• 27:32
  And so I really feel that way for people.
• 27:35
  And I just, yeah, I think we have so many wonderful tools and therapies and it's just going to get better.
• 27:42
  Hmm.
• 27:42
  Very hopeful.
• 27:43
  Very hopeful.
• 27:44
  Don't be overwhelmed.
• 27:45
  So that's a really important point to make.
• 27:48
  And I don't think it's an accident that you're here listening to this big hair edition.
• 27:52
  And I just really invite you to take a breath and consider some options and inch by inch, it's a cinch.
• 28:00
  You know, it was a long time I knew what to do and I just didn't have the energy to do it.
• 28:05
  which is unfortunate, but that's what happened.
• 28:08
  And now I have more energy to do it.
• 28:10
  So I'm embracing that and really just have evaporated the shame around that because it just doesn't serve me and anybody else for that matter.
• 28:17
  So it's not too late.
• 28:19
  And to have a mindset of healing is never too late.
• 28:21
  Yes.
• 28:22
  Yes.
• 28:22
  All right.
• 28:23
  Thanks, Dr. Christine Schaffner.
• 28:25
  Thank you.
• 28:28
  So that's a wrap on today's episode.
• 28:30
  Thank you so much for being here.
• 28:31
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• 28:34
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• 28:40
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• 28:42
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• 28:43
  And that's how we really connect.
• 28:45
  For more resources, free tools, and everything we talked about today, head over to SiobhanSarna.com.
• 28:50
  That's S-H-I-V-A-N-S-A-R-N-A.com.
• 28:55
  It's all there waiting for you.
• 28:56
  And until next time, keep asking the questions, keep finding the answers.
• 29:00
  You deserve the full picture and the very best.
• 29:03
  Namaste.