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Navigating Controversy: Trump and the 14th Amendment · The All About Nothing: Podcast

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isn't
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appropriate
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for
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some.
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Listener
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to
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episode
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number
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252.
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I
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am
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bear
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Krueger.
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I
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would
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normally
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be
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joined
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by
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either
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Zach
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King
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or
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Bill
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Frey
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or
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Bill
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Kimler
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or
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Me
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Bland
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or
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whomever,
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but
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this
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week
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is
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this
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week
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has
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sort
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of
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been
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an
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off
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kind
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of
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week,
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mostly
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because
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we
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did
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celebrate
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the
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Easter
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holiday
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just
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a
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few
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days
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ago.
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So
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this
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episode
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episode
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is
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going
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to
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be
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just
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me.
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take
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that
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how
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you
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want.
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It's
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been
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a
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few
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weeks
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since
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we've
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done
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just
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a
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Me
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episode,
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but
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it's
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also
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been
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several
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years
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since
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I
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just
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did
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my
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own
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episodes.
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I
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mean,
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like
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when
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I
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started
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this,
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this
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was
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back
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in
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2017
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and
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it
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was
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just
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me
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sitting
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here
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for
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25,
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30,
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45
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minutes
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doing
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a
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running
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monologue
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of
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things
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didn't
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have
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always
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have
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to
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be
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in
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a
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cult
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to
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win
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this
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was
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this
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won't
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be
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a
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victory
4:08
just
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for
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us.
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It'll
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be
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victory
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for
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all
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of
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us
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that
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vote
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for
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nominate
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us.
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gonna
4:15
do
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a
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bit
4:16
of
4:17
a
4:17
breakdown
4:18
on
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the
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14th
4:18
Amendment
4:19
here
4:20
because
4:21
there
4:21
is
4:22
a
4:22
Supreme
4:23
Court
4:23
case
4:23
that
4:24
is
4:24
going
4:24
to
4:24
be
4:25
heard
4:25
on
4:25
May
4:25
15th.
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So
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I
4:26
want
4:27
to
4:27
talk
4:27
about
4:28
the
4:28
14th
4:29
amendment
4:29
and
4:30
Donald
4:30
Trump's
4:30
attack
4:31
on
4:31
Birthright
4:32
citizenship
4:33
and
4:33
just
4:33
sort
4:34
of
4:34
go
4:34
in
4:34
depth
4:35
on
4:35
that
4:35
here
4:35
in
4:35
just
4:35
a
4:36
few
4:36
minutes.
4:37
Going
4:38
to
4:38
do
4:38
that.
4:38
But
4:38
first,
4:39
it's
4:39
time
4:39
again
4:39
to
4:40
check
4:40
in
4:40
with
4:40
Sarah
4:41
Jane
4:42
Byers
4:42
for
4:42
common
4:43
sense.
4:44
She
4:44
has
4:44
decades
4:45
of
4:45
experience
4:45
in
4:46
the
4:46
classroom,
4:46
ministry,
4:46
and
4:47
life
4:47
in
4:47
South
4:47
Carolina.
4:48
Sarah
4:48
Jane
4:48
has
4:49
seen
4:49
and
4:49
done
4:50
it
4:50
all,
4:51
from
4:51
raising
4:52
a
4:52
family
4:52
to
4:52
shaping
4:53
minds.
4:53
She's
4:53
got
4:53
a
4:54
perspective
4:55
that
4:55
only
4:55
comes
4:55
from
4:56
living
4:56
through
4:56
it.
4:57
So
4:57
let's
4:57
hear
4:58
what
4:58
pearls
4:58
of
4:58
wisdom
4:59
she's
4:59
got
5:00
for
5:00
us
5:00
today.
5:01
President
5:01
Teddy
5:02
Roosevelt
5:03
and
5:03
was
5:04
an
5:04
avid
5:04
outdoorsman,
5:06
traveled
5:06
the
5:06
US
5:07
Far
5:07
and
5:08
wide.
5:09
He
5:09
discovered
5:10
that
5:10
our
5:10
country
5:10
had
5:10
a
5:11
number
5:11
of
5:11
unique
5:12
natural
5:12
features
5:13
and
5:13
significant
5:14
historical
5:15
sites
5:16
that
5:16
warranted
5:16
preservation
5:18
during
5:18
his
5:19
tenure.
5:19
The
5:20
Antiquities
5:20
act
5:21
was
5:21
passed
5:21
in
5:22
1906,
5:23
setting
5:24
aside
5:24
such
5:24
places
5:25
under
5:25
federal
5:25
jurisdiction
5:26
and
5:26
conservation.
5:28
As
5:28
more
5:29
and
5:29
more
5:29
locations
5:30
were
5:30
identified,
5:31
the
5:31
National
5:32
Park
5:32
Service
5:32
was
5:33
established
5:33
in
5:34
1914.
5:36
Currently,
5:37
the
5:37
National
5:38
Park
5:38
Service
5:38
operates
5:39
433
5:40
sites
5:41
throughout
5:41
our
5:42
country,
5:42
providing
5:43
recreation,
5:44
education,
5:45
conservation
5:46
and
5:46
tourism,
5:47
drawing
5:48
331
5:49
million
5:50
visitors
5:51
in
5:51
the
5:51
past
5:51
year,
5:52
14
5:53
million
5:54
from
5:54
foreign
5:54
countries.
5:56
However,
5:57
the
5:57
federal
5:57
government
5:58
has
5:58
been
5:58
less
5:58
than
5:59
enthusiastic
6:00
about
6:00
their
6:00
financial
6:01
investment,
6:01
which
6:02
remains
6:02
minimal
6:03
and
6:04
now
6:04
decreasing
6:05
even
6:05
more.
6:07
In
6:07
1999,
6:09
their
6:09
budget
6:09
was
6:10
$2.2
6:11
billion.
6:12
24
6:13
years
6:13
later,
6:14
it
6:15
is
6:15
a
6:15
merely
6:16
2.5
6:17
billion.
6:17
Despite
6:18
ever
6:18
increasing
6:19
numbers
6:19
of
6:19
visitors
6:20
annually,
6:21
staff
6:22
decreased
6:23
15%
6:24
from
6:24
2011
6:25
to
6:26
2022,
6:27
causing
6:28
more
6:28
facilities
6:29
to
6:29
close.
6:30
And
6:30
more
6:31
losses
6:31
further
6:32
threaten
6:32
even
6:33
less
6:33
access.
6:34
The
6:35
Trump
6:35
administration
6:36
is
6:36
aggressively
6:37
opposed
6:37
to
6:38
preservation
6:38
of
6:39
natural
6:39
resources,
6:40
motivated
6:40
only
6:41
by
6:42
profit
6:42
made
6:42
via
6:43
businesses.
6:44
National
6:45
parks
6:45
have
6:45
proven
6:46
to
6:46
be
6:46
a
6:46
grand
6:47
investment,
6:47
converting
6:48
their
6:48
$2.5
6:49
billion
6:50
budget
6:51
into
6:49
$55
6:52
billion
6:53
of
6:53
profit
6:53
in
6:52
2024.
6:55
But
6:55
that
6:56
just
6:56
doesn't
6:56
satisfy.
6:58
He
6:59
has
6:59
plans
7:00
for
7:00
leasing
7:00
public
7:01
land
7:01
to
7:01
oil
7:01
companies,
7:02
who
7:03
already
7:03
get
7:03
$20
7:04
billion
7:04
in
7:05
subsidies
7:05
from
7:06
taxpayers
7:06
yearly
7:07
and
7:08
timber
7:08
harvesting
7:08
groups.
7:09
Also,
7:10
mining
7:10
operations
7:11
want
7:11
a
7:12
piece
7:12
of
7:12
the
7:12
pie
7:12
as
7:13
well.
7:13
Selling
7:14
off
7:14
millions
7:15
of
7:15
acres
7:15
of
7:16
land
7:16
is
7:16
a
7:16
very
7:17
real
7:17
possibility,
7:18
too.
7:19
National
7:20
lands
7:21
conduct
7:21
their
7:21
work
7:22
using
7:22
an
7:22
incredibly
7:23
small
7:23
number
7:24
of
7:24
employees,
7:26
about
7:26
20,000
7:27
workers
7:28
for
7:28
433
7:29
sites
7:30
and
7:30
85
7:31
million
7:31
acres
7:32
of
7:32
land.
7:33
That's
7:34
only
7:34
an
7:34
average
7:35
of
7:35
46
7:36
staff
7:37
per
7:37
site.
7:38
If
7:38
they
7:38
were
7:38
distributed
7:39
equally.
7:40
Volunteers
7:41
are
7:41
crucial
7:42
to
7:42
their
7:42
operations.
7:44
Their
7:44
Contributions
7:45
are
7:46
They
7:46
lead
7:46
or
7:47
support
7:47
education
7:48
and
7:48
public
7:48
facing
7:49
programs.
7:50
They
7:50
maintain
7:51
or
7:51
rebuild
7:52
trails
7:52
and
7:53
historic
7:53
buildings.
7:54
They
7:55
conduct
7:55
research
7:56
or
7:56
monitor
7:56
wildlife
7:57
to
7:57
preserve
7:58
our
7:58
natural
7:58
resources.
7:59
They
8:00
help
8:00
families
8:00
make
8:01
memories
8:01
happen
8:01
as
8:02
a
8:02
campground
8:02
host.
8:03
They
8:04
teach
8:04
others
8:04
about
8:05
the
8:05
park
8:05
and
8:05
swear
8:06
in
8:06
new
8:06
junior
8:06
rangers
8:07
in
8:07
the
8:07
visitor
8:08
center
8:09
Support
8:09
libraries,
8:10
archives
8:11
and
8:11
museums
8:12
in
8:12
parks
8:13
to
8:13
preserve
8:13
our
8:14
cultural
8:14
resources
8:16
Produce
8:16
art
8:17
while
8:17
staying
8:17
in
8:18
a
8:18
park
8:18
as
8:18
an
8:18
artist
8:19
in
8:19
residence
8:20
Educate
8:21
trained
8:22
travelers
8:22
on
8:23
the
8:23
natural
8:23
and
8:24
cultural
8:24
heritage
8:25
of
8:25
a
8:25
region
8:25
through
8:26
the
8:26
Trails
8:26
and
8:26
Rails
8:27
program.
8:28
The
8:29
sorely
8:29
underfunded
8:30
and
8:31
understaffed
8:32
parks
8:32
are
8:33
hit
8:33
even
8:33
harder
8:34
by
8:34
the
8:34
Trump
8:34
administration.
8:36
Since
8:36
February
8:37
14,
8:38
2025,
8:39
1,000
8:40
staff
8:41
were
8:41
fired
8:41
with
8:42
a
8:42
demand
8:42
to
8:43
cut
8:43
5%
8:44
of
8:44
all
8:44
staff.
8:45
Leases
8:46
for
8:46
34
8:47
buildings
8:47
were
8:48
canceled,
8:48
including
8:49
the
8:49
science
8:50
headquarters
8:50
in
8:51
Colorado
8:52
with
8:52
100
8:53
employees
8:53
there.
8:55
All
8:55
these
8:56
changes
8:56
and
8:56
shifts
8:57
in
8:57
priorities
8:57
severely
8:58
impact
8:59
our
8:59
natural
8:59
resources,
9:00
adding
9:01
massive
9:01
pollution
9:02
of
9:02
air,
9:03
water
9:03
and
9:04
land,
9:04
destroying
9:05
wildlife
9:06
habitat,
9:07
including
9:07
the
9:08
possible
9:08
loss
9:08
of
9:09
endangered
9:09
species
9:10
and
9:11
a
9:11
definite
9:11
deprivation
9:12
of
9:12
recreation
9:13
and
9:13
education
9:14
for
9:14
American
9:15
people
9:15
and
9:16
visitors
9:16
from
9:17
other
9:17
countries.
9:18
Conscientious
9:19
parents
9:20
and
9:20
adults
9:20
who
9:21
value
9:21
more
9:21
than
9:22
just
9:22
money
9:23
benefit
9:23
greatly
9:24
from
9:24
these
9:24
parks.
9:25
Many
9:26
spend
9:26
their
9:27
entire
9:27
vacation
9:28
time
9:28
exposing
9:29
their
9:29
children
9:29
or
9:30
educating
9:30
themselves
9:31
to
9:32
places
9:32
such
9:33
as
9:33
the
9:33
Grand
9:33
Canyon,
9:34
the
9:34
rocky
9:35
shores
9:35
of
9:36
Arcadia,
9:37
watching
9:37
the
9:37
herds
9:38
of
9:38
bison
9:38
and
9:38
geysers
9:39
in
9:40
Yellowstone,
9:41
the
9:41
majestic
9:42
peak
9:42
of
9:42
Half
9:43
Dome
9:43
in
9:43
Yosemite,
9:44
the
9:45
desert
9:45
beauty
9:45
of
9:45
Death
9:46
Valley,
9:47
the
9:47
massive
9:48
trees
9:48
in
9:48
Sequoia,
9:49
the
9:49
glaciers
9:50
and
9:50
glacier,
9:51
the
9:51
alligators
9:52
and
9:52
birds
9:53
in
9:53
the
9:53
Everglades,
9:54
just
9:54
to
9:54
mention
9:55
a
9:55
few
9:56
exposure
9:57
to
9:57
the
9:57
actual
9:58
sites
9:58
of
9:58
history
9:58
in
9:59
Boston,
10:00
Appomattox
10:01
Courthouse,
10:02
Andersonville,
10:03
Chaco
10:04
Culture
10:04
in
10:04
New
10:05
Mexico,
10:05
Cumberland
10:06
Gap
10:07
and
10:07
many
10:07
others.
10:08
So
10:08
they
10:08
don't
10:09
only
10:09
read
10:09
about
10:09
them,
10:10
they
10:10
can
10:11
actually
10:11
envision
10:12
the
10:12
event,
10:13
viewing
10:13
artifacts
10:14
associated
10:15
with
10:15
their
10:15
experience.
10:17
Many
10:17
parks
10:18
provide
10:18
campsites,
10:19
cabins
10:20
and
10:21
lodges,
10:21
allowing
10:22
us
10:22
to
10:22
live
10:22
in
10:22
a
10:23
more
10:23
primitive
10:23
fashion
10:24
for
10:24
a
10:24
short
10:24
while,
10:25
learning
10:26
that
10:27
the
10:27
end
10:27
and
10:28
be
10:28
all
10:28
are
10:29
not
10:29
on
10:29
screens
10:29
of
10:30
computers,
10:30
phones
10:31
and
10:31
televisions.
10:32
Activities
10:33
like
10:33
hiking,
10:34
fishing,
10:35
bird
10:35
watching,
10:36
swimming
10:37
in
10:37
lakes,
10:38
cooking
10:38
on
10:38
a
10:38
fire,
10:39
kayaking,
10:40
canoeing,
10:41
whitewater
10:41
rafting
10:42
and
10:42
many
10:43
more
10:43
demonstrate
10:44
the
10:44
excitement
10:45
and
10:45
fun
10:45
nature
10:46
provides.
10:47
Children
10:48
are
10:48
taught
10:48
an
10:48
appreciation
10:49
for
10:49
nature,
10:50
how
10:50
to
10:51
care
10:51
for
10:51
it
10:51
and
10:51
what
10:52
it
10:52
provides
10:52
for
10:52
all
10:53
of
10:53
us.
10:53
They
10:54
witness
10:54
diversity
10:55
in
10:55
reality
10:56
among
10:56
plants,
10:57
animals
10:57
and
10:58
people
10:58
from
10:58
all
10:59
corners
10:59
of
10:59
the
10:59
world
11:00
that
11:00
urban
11:00
or
11:01
suburban
11:01
life
11:02
cannot
11:03
provide.
11:04
Studies
11:05
have
11:05
proven
11:05
that
11:06
spending
11:06
time
11:06
in
11:06
natural
11:07
areas
11:07
reduces
11:08
anxiety
11:08
and
11:09
tension,
11:10
warding
11:10
off
11:10
depression,
11:11
children
11:11
and
11:12
adults
11:13
a
11:13
desperate
11:13
need
11:14
in
11:14
our
11:14
society.
11:15
While
11:16
business
11:17
profit
11:17
seems
11:18
to
11:18
be
11:18
the
11:18
sole
11:19
driving
11:19
force
11:20
for
11:20
the
11:20
Trump
11:20
administration,
11:22
some
11:22
things
11:23
exceed
11:23
anything
11:24
money
11:24
can
11:25
buy.
11:26
Those
11:26
experiences
11:27
and
11:28
the
11:28
pleasure
11:29
knowledge
11:29
and
11:29
community
11:30
we
11:30
gain
11:31
from
11:31
national
11:31
parks
11:32
cannot
11:33
be
11:33
duplicated
11:34
with
11:34
any
11:35
form
11:35
of
11:35
business.
11:36
It
11:36
is
11:37
imperative
11:37
that
11:38
we
11:38
actively
11:38
do
11:39
what
11:39
we
11:39
can
11:40
to
11:40
keep
11:40
these
11:41
treasures
11:41
operating
11:42
and
11:42
preserved
11:43
for
11:43
our
11:44
welfare
11:44
and
11:45
that
11:45
of
11:45
our
11:46
progeny.
11:46
Thanks
11:47
again
11:47
to
11:47
Sarah
11:47
Jane
11:47
Byers
11:48
for
11:48
our
11:48
Common
11:49
Sense
11:49
Update.
11:49
That's
11:50
a
11:50
diatribe
11:50
that
11:50
we
11:51
do
11:51
here
11:51
exclusively
11:51
on
11:51
the
11:52
All
11:52
About
11:52
Nothing
11:52
podcast.
11:53
Really
11:53
appreciate
11:54
Sarah
11:54
Jane
11:54
for
11:55
letting
11:56
us
11:56
air
11:57
her
11:58
opinions
11:59
on
11:59
the
11:59
podcast.
11:59
I
12:00
think
12:00
it
12:00
brings
12:00
a
12:00
wealth
12:01
of
12:02
information
12:03
to
12:03
the
12:03
show
12:04
and
12:04
I
12:04
really
12:04
appreciate
12:05
Sarah
12:05
Jane
12:05
for
12:06
that.
12:06
She
12:06
is
12:07
a
12:07
Columbia,
12:07
South
12:07
Carolina
12:08
native
12:08
lifelong.
12:09
She's
12:09
got
12:10
a
12:10
bachelor's
12:10
and
12:10
master's
12:11
degree
12:11
in
12:11
health
12:12
education
12:13
and
12:13
biology.
12:14
She
12:14
also
12:14
has
12:14
a
12:15
lay
12:15
ministry
12:15
degree
12:16
from
12:16
the
12:16
University
12:16
of
12:17
South
12:17
Theological
12:18
Seminary.
12:18
She
12:19
has
12:19
a
12:19
doctorate
12:19
in
12:20
education
12:20
leadership
12:21
as
12:21
well
12:22
as
12:22
she
12:22
has
12:22
44
12:23
years
12:23
of
12:23
experience
12:24
teaching
12:24
public
12:25
high
12:25
school.
12:25
So
12:26
just
12:26
an
12:26
extreme
12:27
wealth
12:27
of
12:27
experience
12:28
that
12:28
is
12:29
invaluable,
12:30
especially
12:30
when
12:30
it
12:30
comes
12:31
to
12:31
our
12:31
podcast.
12:31
Really
12:32
appreciate
12:32
her
12:32
coming
12:32
on
12:33
and
12:33
doing
12:33
these
12:33
things
12:34
with
12:34
us.
12:35
So
12:37
one
12:37
of
12:37
the
12:38
things
12:38
that
12:38
I
12:38
talked
12:39
about
12:39
before
12:40
Sarah
12:40
Jane
12:41
came
12:41
on
12:42
is
12:42
that
12:42
I
12:43
wanted
12:43
to
12:43
do
12:43
an
12:44
episode
12:45
about
12:45
the
12:46
unraveling
12:47
or
12:47
the
12:47
attempted
12:48
unraveling
12:48
of
12:48
the
12:49
14th
12:49
Amendment.
12:49
And
12:50
this
12:50
is
12:50
basically
12:50
Donald
12:51
Trump's
12:51
quest
12:52
to
12:52
redefine
12:53
American
12:53
citizenship.
12:54
Well,
12:55
Donald
12:55
Trump
12:55
and
12:56
the
12:56
people
12:56
that
12:56
he
12:56
surrounds
12:57
himself
12:57
with.
12:59
So
12:59
in
12:59
recent
13:00
months,
13:00
President
13:01
Donald
13:01
Trump
13:01
has
13:02
reignited
13:02
a
13:03
contentious
13:03
debate
13:04
by
13:04
attempting
13:05
to
13:05
challenge
13:05
the
13:05
14th
13:06
Amendment
13:06
of
13:06
the
13:06
Constitution.
13:08
So,
13:08
as
13:09
you
13:09
probably
13:10
know,
13:10
this
13:10
amendment
13:10
is
13:11
a
13:11
cornerstone
13:12
of
13:12
American
13:12
civil
13:13
rights
13:13
and
13:13
guarantees
13:14
citizens
13:14
to
13:15
all
13:15
individuals,
13:16
or,
13:16
I'm
13:16
sorry,
13:17
it
13:17
guarantees
13:17
citizenship
13:18
to
13:18
all
13:18
individuals
13:19
born
13:19
in
13:19
the
13:19
United
13:20
States.
13:21
Trump's
13:21
efforts
13:22
to
13:22
redefine
13:23
this
13:23
principle
13:23
have
13:23
sparked
13:24
legal
13:24
battles,
13:25
political
13:25
discourse,
13:26
and
13:26
concerns
13:26
about
13:27
what
13:27
the
13:27
future
13:27
of
13:28
American
13:28
citizenship
13:29
is
13:29
going
13:29
to
13:29
be.
13:30
So
13:31
why
13:31
is
13:31
President
13:31
Trump
13:32
targeting
13:32
the
13:32
14th
13:33
amendment?
13:34
What
13:34
are
13:34
the
13:34
historical
13:35
underpinnings
13:36
of
13:36
this
13:36
constitutional
13:37
provision,
13:37
and
13:37
what
13:38
could
13:38
be
13:38
the
13:38
ramifications
13:39
of
13:39
altering
13:40
its
13:40
interpretation?
13:42
Let's
13:42
explore
13:42
these
13:43
questions
13:43
in
13:43
depth.
13:44
So
13:45
to
13:45
understand
13:45
the
13:46
current
13:46
controversy,
13:47
we
13:47
have
13:47
to
13:47
revisit
13:48
the
13:48
origins
13:49
of
13:49
the
13:49
14th
13:49
Amendment.
13:50
Ratified
13:51
in
13:51
1868
13:52
in
13:52
the
13:52
aftermath
13:53
of
13:53
the
13:53
Civil
13:53
War,
13:54
the
13:54
amendment
13:54
was
13:54
redesigned.
13:56
Not
13:56
really.
13:57
The
13:57
Amendment
13:57
was
13:58
designed
13:59
to
13:59
address
13:59
the
14:00
status
14:00
of
14:00
formerly
14:01
enslaved
14:02
individuals
14:03
and
14:03
to
14:03
establish
14:04
clear
14:04
definition
14:05
of
14:05
American
14:05
citizenship.
14:07
The
14:07
citizenship
14:08
clause
14:08
of
14:08
the
14:08
14th
14:09
Amendment
14:09
states
14:09
that
14:10
all
14:10
persons
14:11
born
14:11
or
14:11
naturalized
14:12
in
14:12
the
14:12
United
14:13
States
14:13
are
14:13
subject
14:14
to
14:14
the
14:14
jurisdiction
14:15
thereof,
14:16
are
14:16
citizens
14:17
of
14:17
the
14:17
United
14:17
States
14:18
and
14:18
of
14:18
the
14:18
state
14:19
wherein
14:19
they
14:19
reside.
14:21
So
14:21
this
14:21
clause
14:21
was
14:22
a
14:22
direct
14:22
response
14:22
to
14:23
the
14:23
infamous
14:23
Dred
14:23
Scott
14:24
vs
14:24
Sanford
14:24
case
14:25
decision
14:26
in
14:26
1857,
14:27
which
14:27
held
14:28
that
14:28
African
14:28
Americans
14:29
could
14:29
not
14:29
be
14:30
citizens.
14:31
But
14:31
by
14:31
enshrining
14:32
birthright
14:32
citizenship
14:33
in
14:33
the
14:33
Constitution,
14:34
the
14:34
14th
14:35
Amendment
14:35
aimed
14:35
to
14:36
ensure
14:36
that
14:36
all
14:37
individuals
14:37
born
14:38
on
14:38
U.S.
14:38
soil,
14:39
regardless
14:40
of
14:40
race
14:40
or
14:41
parentage,
14:41
were
14:42
granted
14:42
full
14:43
citizenship
14:43
rights.
14:44
This
14:45
principle,
14:45
known
14:46
as
14:46
just
14:46
solely
14:47
or
14:48
the
14:48
right
14:48
of
14:49
the
14:49
soil,
14:50
has
14:50
been
14:50
a
14:51
fundamental
14:51
aspect
14:52
of
14:52
American
14:53
identity
14:53
for
14:53
over
14:54
150
14:55
years.
14:56
So
14:57
the
14:57
14th
14:57
amendment
14:58
has
14:58
played
14:58
a
14:58
pivotal
14:59
role
14:59
in
14:59
numerous
15:00
landmark
15:00
Supreme
15:01
Court
15:01
cases
15:01
that
15:01
have
15:01
shaped
15:02
American
15:02
society.
15:03
In
15:04
the
15:04
United
15:04
States
15:05
versus
15:05
Wong
15:05
Kim
15:06
Ark
15:06
in
15:06
1898,
15:07
the
15:07
court
15:08
affirmed
15:08
that
15:09
children
15:09
born
15:09
in
15:10
the
15:10
United
15:10
States
15:11
to
15:11
foreign
15:11
parents
15:12
are
15:12
indeed
15:12
US
15:13
Citizens,
15:14
reinforcing
15:15
the
15:15
doctrine
15:15
of
15:16
birthright
15:16
citizenship
15:18
beyond
15:18
citizenship,
15:19
the
15:19
equal
15:20
Protection
15:20
and
15:21
Due
15:21
Process
15:21
clause
15:22
of
15:22
the
15:22
14th
15:22
Amendment.
15:23
Those
15:24
clauses
15:24
of
15:24
the
15:24
14th
15:25
Amendment
15:25
had
15:25
been
15:25
instrumental
15:26
in
15:26
cases
15:26
such
15:27
as
15:27
Brown
15:27
versus
15:27
the
15:28
Board
15:28
of
15:28
Education
15:28
in
15:29
1954,
15:30
which
15:30
ended
15:31
racial
15:31
segregation
15:32
in
15:32
public
15:32
schools,
15:33
and
15:33
Obergefell
15:34
and
15:35
Hodges
15:35
in
15:36
2015,
15:37
which
15:37
legalized
15:38
same
15:38
sex
15:38
marriage
15:39
national
15:39
nationwide.
15:40
So
15:41
these
15:41
decisions
15:41
underscore
15:42
the
15:42
amendment's
15:43
broad
15:43
impact
15:44
on
15:44
civil
15:44
rights
15:44
and
15:45
liberties,
15:45
making
15:46
any
15:46
attempts
15:46
to
15:47
alter
15:47
its
15:47
interpretation
15:48
a
15:48
matter
15:48
of
15:48
significant
15:49
consequence.
15:52
President
15:52
Trump's
15:53
challenges
15:54
to
15:54
the
15:54
14th
15:54
Amendment
15:55
are
15:55
not
15:55
new.
15:56
During
15:56
his
15:56
first
15:56
term,
15:56
he
15:57
floated
15:57
the
15:57
idea
15:57
of
15:58
ending
15:58
birthright
15:58
citizenship
15:59
through
15:59
executive
16:00
action,
16:00
a
16:01
proposal
16:01
that
16:01
faced
16:02
widespread
16:02
criticism
16:03
and
16:03
legal
16:03
skepticism
16:05
upon
16:06
entering
16:06
the
16:06
office
16:07
in
16:07
2025.
16:08
Trump
16:08
wasted
16:09
zero
16:09
time
16:09
in
16:10
advancing
16:10
this
16:10
agenda.
16:11
On
16:12
January
16:12
20,
16:13
2025,
16:13
he
16:13
signed
16:14
an
16:14
executive
16:15
order
16:15
14160
16:16
titled
16:17
Protecting
16:17
the
16:18
Meaning
16:18
and
16:18
Value
16:19
of
16:19
American
16:19
Citizenship.
16:20
The
16:21
order
16:21
sought
16:21
to
16:22
reinterpret
16:23
citizenship
16:23
clause
16:24
by
16:24
denying
16:25
automatic
16:25
citizenship
16:26
to
16:26
children
16:26
born
16:27
in
16:27
the
16:27
United
16:27
States
16:27
to
16:28
parents
16:28
who
16:28
were
16:28
undocumented
16:29
immigrants
16:30
or
16:30
on
16:31
temporary
16:31
visa
16:32
status.
16:34
Specifically,
16:34
the
16:34
order
16:35
stipulated
16:35
that
16:35
children
16:36
born
16:36
after
16:36
February
16:37
19,
16:37
2025,
16:38
to
16:38
mothers
16:39
unlawfully
16:39
present
16:40
in
16:40
the
16:40
United
16:40
States
16:41
or
16:41
to
16:41
mothers
16:41
in
16:42
temporary
16:42
legal
16:43
status,
16:43
such
16:43
as
16:43
student
16:44
or
16:44
tourist
16:45
visas,
16:46
would
16:46
not
16:46
be
16:46
granted
16:47
U.S.
16:47
citizenship
16:48
if
16:48
the
16:48
father
16:48
was
16:48
neither
16:49
a
16:49
U.S.
16:49
citizen
16:50
nor
16:50
a
16:50
lawful
16:51
permanent
16:51
res.
16:53
The
16:53
administration
16:54
justified
16:54
this
16:55
move
16:55
by
16:55
arguing
16:56
that
16:56
such
16:56
individuals
16:57
are
16:57
not
16:57
subject
16:58
to
16:58
the
16:58
jurisdiction
16:59
of
16:59
the
16:59
United
16:59
States,
17:00
a
17:00
phrase
17:01
from
17:01
the
17:01
14th
17:01
Amendment.
17:02
However,
17:03
this
17:03
interpretation
17:04
runs
17:04
counter
17:05
to
17:05
long
17:05
standing
17:06
legal
17:06
precedent,
17:07
particularly
17:07
the
17:07
Wong
17:08
Kim
17:08
Ark
17:08
decision.
17:10
The
17:10
Executive
17:11
Order
17:11
faced
17:11
immediate
17:12
legal
17:12
challenges.
17:13
Multiple
17:14
lawsuits
17:14
were
17:15
filed
17:15
by
17:15
states
17:15
and
17:16
civil
17:16
rights
17:16
organizations,
17:17
leading
17:17
to
17:17
a
17:17
federal
17:18
judge's
17:18
issuing
17:19
of
17:19
a
17:19
preliminary
17:20
injunction
17:20
blocking
17:21
its
17:21
interpretation
17:22
or
17:22
implementation.
17:23
Sorry.
17:24
Judge
17:24
John
17:25
C.
17:25
Kaufner
17:26
of
17:26
the
17:26
Western
17:27
District
17:27
of
17:27
Washington
17:28
described
17:29
the
17:29
order
17:29
as
17:29
blatantly
17:30
unconstitutional.
17:32
But
17:32
despite
17:32
these
17:32
efforts,
17:33
Donald
17:33
Trump's
17:34
administration
17:34
has
17:34
appealed
17:35
the
17:35
rulings,
17:35
and
17:36
the
17:36
Supreme
17:36
Court
17:36
is
17:36
scheduled
17:37
to
17:37
hear
17:37
the
17:37
argument
17:39
or
17:39
the
17:39
arguments
17:40
on
17:40
the
17:40
matter
17:41
on
17:41
May
17:41
15,
17:42
2025.
17:44
So
17:44
Trump's
17:45
push
17:45
to
17:45
redefine
17:46
birthright
17:46
citizenship
17:47
aligns
17:48
with
17:48
his
17:48
broader
17:49
political
17:49
strategy
17:50
of
17:50
appealing
17:50
to
17:50
national
17:52
nationalist
17:52
sentiments
17:53
and
17:53
concern
17:54
over
17:54
immigration.
17:55
By
17:56
challenging
17:56
the
17:56
14th
17:57
amendment,
17:57
he
17:57
taps
17:58
into
17:58
a
17:58
segment
17:58
of
17:59
the
17:59
electorate
17:59
that
17:59
views
18:00
current
18:01
immigration
18:02
policies
18:02
to
18:02
be
18:02
too
18:03
lenient
18:03
and
18:04
believes
18:04
that
18:04
birthright
18:05
citizenship
18:05
incentives
18:06
incentivizes
18:08
illegal
18:08
immigration.
18:09
This
18:10
approach
18:10
also
18:11
serves
18:11
to
18:11
divert
18:12
attention
18:12
from
18:13
other
18:13
pressing
18:13
issues
18:14
and
18:14
galvanizes
18:15
his
18:15
political
18:15
base
18:16
by
18:16
portraying
18:16
himself
18:17
as
18:17
a
18:17
defender
18:17
of
18:17
the
18:18
American
18:18
sovereignty
18:19
and
18:19
values.
18:20
Critics
18:20
argue
18:21
that
18:21
such
18:21
tactics
18:22
sow
18:22
division
18:23
and
18:23
undermine
18:24
the
18:24
inclusive
18:25
principles
18:25
upon
18:26
which
18:26
the
18:26
nation
18:26
was
18:27
founded.
18:28
Altering
18:29
the
18:29
interpretation
18:29
of
18:30
the
18:30
14th
18:30
Amendment
18:31
could
18:31
have
18:31
far
18:31
reaching
18:32
implications.
18:33
If
18:33
birthright
18:34
citizenship
18:34
is
18:34
denied
18:35
to
18:35
certain
18:35
groups,
18:36
it
18:36
could
18:36
result
18:37
in
18:37
significant
18:37
population
18:38
of
18:38
stateless
18:39
individuals
18:40
born
18:40
in
18:40
the
18:40
United
18:41
States
18:41
who
18:41
lack
18:42
the
18:42
citizenship,
18:43
leaving
18:43
them
18:43
without
18:44
legal
18:44
protections
18:45
or
18:45
access
18:45
to
18:45
essential
18:46
services.
18:47
Such
18:47
a
18:48
shift
18:48
would
18:48
not
18:48
only
18:48
contravene
18:49
establish
18:50
legal
18:50
precedent,
18:50
but
18:51
also
18:51
challenge
18:51
the
18:51
nation's
18:52
commitment
18:52
to
18:52
equal
18:53
rights
18:53
and
18:53
due
18:54
process.
18:55
It
18:55
could
18:55
open
18:55
the
18:55
door
18:56
to
18:56
further
18:56
erosion
18:56
of
18:57
civil
18:57
liberties
18:57
and
18:58
set
18:58
a
18:58
precedent
18:58
for
18:59
redefining
19:00
other
19:00
constitutional
19:01
protections.
19:04
So
19:04
the
19:05
14th
19:05
Amendment
19:05
stands
19:06
as
19:06
a
19:06
testament
19:07
to
19:07
the
19:07
American
19:07
dedication
19:08
to
19:08
equality
19:09
and
19:09
justice.
19:10
Efforts
19:10
to
19:10
undermine
19:11
this
19:11
provision
19:12
threaten
19:12
to
19:12
unravel
19:13
the
19:13
progress
19:13
achieved
19:14
over
19:14
the
19:14
past
19:14
century
19:15
and
19:15
a
19:15
half.
19:16
As
19:16
debates
19:17
continue
19:17
to
19:17
legal
19:18
battles
19:18
unfold,
19:19
it's
19:20
imperative
19:20
for
19:20
citizens
19:21
to
19:21
stay
19:21
informed
19:21
and
19:22
engaged.
19:23
The
19:23
outcome
19:23
of
19:23
these
19:24
challenges
19:24
will
19:24
shape
19:24
the
19:25
nation's
19:25
identity
19:25
and
19:26
values
19:26
for
19:26
generations.
19:30
There's
19:31
not
19:31
a
19:31
whole
19:31
lot
19:32
that
19:32
else
19:33
can
19:33
be
19:33
said.
19:34
This
19:34
is
19:35
mostly
19:35
an
19:36
attempt
19:36
to
19:36
undermine
19:37
what
19:37
is
19:38
defining
19:39
people
19:39
as
19:39
citizens
19:40
in
19:40
this
19:40
country.
19:41
And
19:41
for
19:41
150
19:42
years
19:42
we've
19:43
recognized
19:43
anyone
19:43
born
19:44
or
19:44
naturalized
19:45
in
19:45
the
19:45
United
19:46
States
19:46
as
19:46
being
19:46
a
19:47
citizen
19:47
of
19:47
this
19:47
country.
19:48
We've
19:49
recognized
19:49
that
19:49
under
19:50
the
19:50
Constitution
19:50
that
19:51
due
19:51
process
19:51
is
19:51
something
19:52
that
19:52
is
19:52
afforded
19:53
to
19:53
everyone
19:54
on
19:54
soil,
19:54
regardless
19:56
of
19:56
their
19:56
immigration
19:57
status,
19:57
citizenship,
19:58
visas,
19:59
whatever.
20:00
The
20:01
United
20:01
States
20:01
fundamentally
20:02
is
20:03
a
20:03
place
20:03
of
20:04
equality
20:04
and
20:05
justice
20:05
for
20:06
all.
20:07
And
20:07
ultimately,
20:07
Donald
20:08
Trump
20:08
and
20:08
his
20:08
administration
20:09
are
20:09
attempting
20:09
to
20:10
undermine
20:10
what
20:11
it
20:11
is
20:11
to
20:12
be
20:12
an
20:12
American,
20:13
to
20:13
be
20:13
a
20:13
citizen
20:14
of
20:14
this
20:14
country,
20:14
or
20:15
even
20:15
just
20:15
be
20:16
a
20:16
visitor
20:17
to
20:17
this
20:17
country.
20:18
It's
20:19
extraordinarily
20:20
dangerous.
20:22
I
20:23
have
20:23
to
20:23
believe
20:23
that
20:24
the
20:24
people
20:24
that
20:24
voted
20:24
for
20:25
Donald
20:25
Trump,
20:26
while
20:27
they
20:27
want
20:28
illegal
20:29
immigration
20:30
to
20:30
stop,
20:31
which
20:31
it
20:31
never
20:31
will,
20:32
we
20:32
will
20:32
always
20:33
have
20:33
some
20:34
level,
20:34
some
20:34
percentage
20:35
of
20:35
people
20:35
in
20:35
the
20:35
United
20:36
States
20:36
that
20:36
are
20:36
here
20:37
illegally.
20:39
It's
20:39
just,
20:39
it's
20:40
part
20:40
of
20:40
being
20:41
humans.
20:42
Human
20:42
nature
20:42
is
20:43
to
20:43
migrate.
20:45
We
20:46
come
20:46
from
20:46
nomads
20:47
and
20:48
ultimately
20:48
in
20:48
the
20:49
end,
20:49
people
20:49
are
20:49
going
20:49
to
20:50
move
20:50
and
20:50
there
20:50
will
20:51
always
20:51
be
20:51
opportunity
20:52
to
20:52
go
20:52
from
20:53
one
20:53
country
20:53
to
20:53
another,
20:54
regardless
20:55
of
20:55
how
20:56
tall
20:56
you
20:56
build
20:56
the
20:56
walls
20:57
or
20:57
how
20:58
many
20:58
soldiers
20:58
you
20:58
put
20:59
behind
20:59
them.
21:00
It's
21:00
always
21:00
going
21:01
to
21:01
be
21:01
the
21:01
case.
21:02
The
21:03
United
21:03
States
21:03
thrives
21:05
on
21:05
the
21:05
migrants
21:06
that
21:06
come
21:06
here
21:07
and
21:07
help
21:08
and
21:08
are
21:08
paid
21:09
for
21:09
the
21:09
work
21:09
that
21:09
they
21:10
do.
21:10
They
21:11
pay
21:11
their
21:11
taxes,
21:12
they
21:12
pay
21:12
into
21:13
social
21:13
services
21:14
that
21:14
they
21:14
will
21:14
probably
21:15
never
21:15
be
21:15
afforded
21:16
to
21:16
them.
21:17
This
21:18
is
21:18
the
21:18
United
21:18
States.
21:19
This
21:19
is
21:19
the
21:19
country
21:19
we
21:20
live
21:20
in.
21:22
It's
21:23
hard
21:23
to
21:23
believe
21:23
that
21:24
we
21:24
still
21:24
have
21:24
people
21:25
in
21:25
this
21:25
day
21:25
and
21:25
time
21:25
that
21:26
are
21:26
so
21:27
centered
21:27
on
21:28
this
21:28
idea
21:28
of
21:30
hate
21:30
against
21:31
people
21:31
that
21:31
are
21:31
different
21:32
from
21:32
them,
21:33
on
21:33
a
21:34
personal
21:34
respect,
21:36
recognizing
21:38
that
21:38
people
21:39
I
21:39
know
21:40
will
21:41
literally
21:41
go
21:42
into
21:42
the
21:42
Walmart
21:43
and
21:43
will
21:43
count
21:44
the
21:44
number
21:44
of
21:44
brown
21:44
and
21:45
black
21:45
people
21:45
that
21:45
they
21:46
see,
21:46
not
21:48
purely
21:48
out
21:48
of
21:48
curiosity,
21:49
but
21:50
because
21:52
maybe
21:52
they've
21:53
given
21:53
thought
21:53
to
21:54
potentially
21:54
calling
21:54
the
21:55
ICE
21:55
hotline,
21:56
notifying
21:56
them
21:57
that
21:57
they
21:57
think
21:57
that
21:57
they're
21:58
the
21:58
people
21:58
at
21:58
the
21:58
Walmart
21:59
in
21:59
West
21:59
Columbia,
22:00
South
22:00
Carolina,
22:00
that
22:00
are
22:01
here
22:01
illegally.
22:03
It's
22:03
disturbing
22:04
that
22:04
someone
22:05
would
22:05
want
22:06
to
22:07
go
22:07
to
22:07
the
22:07
effort
22:08
of
22:08
completely
22:09
upending
22:09
someone
22:09
else's
22:10
life
22:10
that
22:10
has
22:11
made
22:11
no
22:11
impact
22:12
on
22:12
yours,
22:13
purely
22:13
based
22:13
on
22:14
the
22:14
color
22:14
of
22:14
their
22:14
skin
22:15
or
22:15
the
22:16
language
22:16
they
22:16
speak,
22:17
or
22:17
language,
22:18
perhaps
22:18
the
22:18
language
22:19
they
22:19
don't
22:19
speak.
22:25
It
22:26
is
22:26
disturbing.
22:27
And
22:27
for
22:28
a
22:28
lot
22:28
of
22:28
these
22:28
people
22:28
to
22:29
call
22:29
themselves
22:29
Christians
22:31
to
22:31
believe
22:31
that
22:31
they're
22:32
following
22:32
in
22:32
the
22:32
footsteps
22:33
of
22:33
Jesus,
22:36
it
22:36
doesn't
22:36
make
22:37
any
22:37
sense
22:37
to
22:37
me.
22:39
Not
22:39
from
22:39
the
22:39
readings
22:40
of
22:40
the
22:40
Bible
22:41
that
22:41
I
22:42
have
22:42
read
22:42
many,
22:43
many
22:43
times.
22:45
I
22:45
was
22:46
a
22:46
practicing
22:46
Catholic
22:47
for
22:47
many
22:48
years.
22:50
I
22:50
have
22:50
read
22:50
through
22:51
the
22:51
Bible
22:51
many,
22:51
many
22:52
times
22:53
and
22:53
the
22:53
actions
22:54
and
22:54
behavior
22:54
of
22:54
people
22:55
that
22:55
I
22:55
know
22:55
that
22:55
consider
22:56
themselves
22:56
to
22:56
be
22:57
Christian.
23:00
I
23:01
am
23:01
dumbfounded
23:01
at
23:02
how
23:02
you
23:02
came
23:02
to
23:02
that
23:03
definition.
23:05
I'm
23:06
just
23:06
dumbfounded.
23:11
Anyhow,
23:12
that
23:12
is,
23:13
that
23:13
is
23:13
my
23:14
take
23:14
on
23:15
what
23:15
is
23:15
going
23:15
on
23:15
with
23:16
the
23:16
14th
23:16
amendment.
23:17
So
23:17
before
23:18
we
23:18
close
23:18
out
23:18
the
23:18
show,
23:19
I
23:19
do
23:19
have
23:20
a
23:20
couple
23:20
of
23:20
things
23:21
that
23:21
I
23:21
did
23:21
want
23:22
to
23:22
discuss.
23:24
Donald
23:24
Trump
23:24
is
23:25
Now
23:25
selling
23:26
Trump
23:27
2028
23:28
merch
23:28
on
23:28
his
23:28
website.
23:30
So
23:30
this
23:30
either
23:31
confirms
23:31
that
23:31
he
23:32
is
23:32
either
23:32
serious
23:32
about
23:33
running
23:34
or
23:34
it
23:35
confirms
23:35
that
23:35
he
23:36
really,
23:36
really
23:36
just
23:36
want
23:37
to.
23:37
Wants
23:37
to
23:37
troll
23:38
the
23:38
Democrats.
23:40
And
23:40
really
23:40
the
23:41
nation
23:43
in
23:43
Ipsis
23:44
poll
23:45
indicated
23:45
that
23:45
80%
23:46
of
23:46
voters
23:47
do
23:47
not
23:47
want
23:48
him
23:48
to
23:48
run
23:48
for
23:48
a
23:49
third
23:49
term.
23:49
That
23:50
was
23:50
Republicans,
23:51
Democrats
23:51
and
23:51
independents,
23:52
80%.
23:54
Currently
23:54
the
23:55
president
23:55
is
23:56
polling
23:56
somewhere
23:57
in
23:57
the
23:57
high
23:57
30s
23:58
to
23:58
low
23:59
40s
24:00
when
24:00
it
24:00
comes
24:00
to
24:01
his
24:01
job
24:02
or
24:02
an
24:02
approval
24:03
on
24:03
his
24:03
job
24:03
of
24:04
how
24:04
he's
24:04
doing
24:04
in
24:05
respect
24:05
to
24:05
the
24:05
economy.
24:08
That's
24:08
not
24:09
good.
24:09
He's.
24:10
He's
24:10
basically
24:11
completely
24:12
blown
24:12
away
24:13
and
24:13
wasted
24:13
the
24:14
entire,
24:15
the
24:15
entirety
24:16
of
24:16
his
24:17
honeymoon
24:18
phase
24:18
of
24:19
him
24:19
becoming
24:19
president.
24:20
Again,
24:20
completely
24:21
wasted
24:21
it.
24:22
It's
24:23
gone.
24:23
I
24:24
mean,
24:25
no
24:25
president
24:25
in
24:26
history
24:26
has
24:26
seen
24:26
approval
24:27
ratings
24:27
plummet
24:28
as
24:28
quickly
24:28
as
24:28
Donald
24:29
Trump
24:29
has.
24:30
And
24:30
you
24:30
can
24:31
deny
24:31
it
24:32
if
24:32
you.
24:32
If
24:32
you're
24:33
one
24:33
of
24:33
his
24:33
supporters,
24:34
you
24:34
can.
24:34
You
24:35
can
24:35
say
24:35
that
24:35
I'm
24:35
wrong,
24:36
you
24:36
can
24:36
say
24:37
whatever
24:37
you'd
24:37
like.
24:38
But
24:38
in
24:38
the
24:39
end,
24:39
this
24:39
is
24:40
the
24:40
truth.
24:41
Donald
24:41
Trump
24:42
is
24:42
an
24:42
unpopular
24:43
president
24:43
less
24:44
than
24:44
100
24:44
days
24:45
into
24:45
his
24:45
presidency.
24:49
Constitution,
24:49
of
24:49
course,
24:50
in
24:51
the
24:51
22nd
24:51
Amendment
24:52
does
24:52
not
24:53
allow
24:53
for
24:54
a
24:54
president
24:55
to
24:55
run
24:55
or
24:56
to
24:56
be
24:56
elected
24:56
to
24:57
a
24:57
third
24:57
term.
24:58
Can
24:59
he
24:59
run?
24:59
Yeah,
25:00
he
25:00
can
25:00
run
25:00
for
25:00
office.
25:01
He
25:01
can
25:01
run
25:01
for
25:01
a
25:01
third
25:01
term.
25:01
He
25:02
can
25:02
run
25:02
for
25:02
fourth
25:02
or
25:02
fifth
25:03
term.
25:03
I
25:03
mean,
25:03
as
25:04
long
25:04
as
25:04
his
25:05
body
25:05
holds
25:06
out.
25:06
But
25:07
he
25:07
can't
25:07
be
25:08
elected.
25:08
He
25:08
can't
25:09
be
25:09
sworn
25:09
in
25:10
for
25:10
a
25:10
third
25:10
time
25:12
and
25:12
be
25:12
president
25:13
again.
25:13
There
25:14
are
25:15
some
25:15
potential
25:16
paths
25:16
to
25:17
him
25:17
becoming
25:17
the
25:18
president.
25:18
He
25:18
could
25:19
potentially
25:19
be
25:19
elected
25:20
as
25:20
the
25:20
vice
25:20
president,
25:21
and
25:21
then
25:21
whoever
25:22
that
25:22
president
25:22
is
25:24
could
25:24
step
25:24
aside
25:25
almost
25:25
immediately
25:27
and
25:28
be
25:28
able
25:29
to
25:30
allow
25:30
Donald
25:30
Trump
25:31
to
25:31
ascend
25:32
to
25:32
the
25:32
presidency
25:32
for
25:33
another
25:33
term.
25:34
He
25:34
could
25:34
be
25:34
the
25:34
speaker
25:35
of
25:35
the
25:35
House,
25:35
and
25:35
both
25:35
the
25:36
president
25:36
and
25:36
vice
25:36
president
25:37
could
25:37
step
25:37
aside,
25:37
and
25:37
then
25:38
he
25:38
could
25:38
potentially
25:39
become
25:40
president
25:41
by
25:41
being
25:42
sworn
25:42
in
25:42
and
25:43
ascending
25:43
to
25:43
the
25:43
presidency.
25:45
There's
25:45
really
25:46
nothing
25:46
that
25:47
any
25:47
of
25:47
us
25:47
can
25:47
do
25:48
to
25:48
stop
25:48
him
25:49
from
25:50
running
25:50
for
25:50
a
25:50
third
25:51
term.
25:52
The
25:53
Grim
25:53
Reaper
25:53
might
25:56
maybe,
25:57
but
26:00
it
26:00
really
26:01
is
26:01
what
26:01
it
26:01
is.
26:03
I
26:04
cannot
26:04
imagine
26:05
a
26:05
scenario
26:05
where
26:06
Donald
26:06
Trump,
26:07
knowing
26:07
that
26:07
he
26:08
can't
26:08
be
26:08
sworn
26:08
in
26:09
as
26:10
the
26:10
president
26:10
based
26:11
on
26:11
an
26:11
election,
26:12
would
26:13
really
26:13
want
26:14
to
26:15
become
26:15
the
26:15
president
26:16
again
26:16
like
26:16
he's
26:17
an
26:17
old
26:18
man.
26:18
He's
26:18
going
26:18
to
26:19
be
26:19
82
26:19
years
26:20
old.
26:23
Why
26:23
not
26:23
just
26:24
let
26:25
it
26:25
go
26:25
and
26:25
retire?
26:27
But
26:27
I
26:28
think
26:28
I
26:28
know
26:28
the
26:28
answer
26:28
to
26:29
that.
26:29
And
26:29
it's
26:30
his
26:30
vanity,
26:31
it
26:32
is
26:32
his
26:32
desire
26:33
to
26:34
be
26:34
recognized.
26:36
And
26:36
that's
26:37
why
26:37
he
26:37
recognizes
26:38
Putin
26:38
and
26:39
Kim
26:39
Jong
26:40
Un
26:40
as
26:41
being
26:41
such
26:43
strong
26:43
men,
26:44
because
26:44
they
26:45
never
26:45
have
26:45
to
26:45
relinquish
26:46
their
26:46
power.
26:47
Putin
26:47
can
26:48
continue
26:48
just
26:49
to
26:49
kill
26:49
off
26:49
everyone
26:50
that
26:50
opposes
26:50
him
26:52
in
26:52
an
26:53
election
26:53
or
26:54
sentence
26:54
them
26:55
to
26:55
life
26:55
in
26:55
prison
26:56
in,
26:57
you
26:57
know,
26:59
northern
27:00
Siberia.
27:04
But
27:04
we
27:05
have
27:05
due
27:05
process
27:05
here
27:06
in
27:06
the
27:06
United
27:06
States.
27:06
That
27:07
sort
27:07
of
27:07
prevents
27:07
Donald
27:07
Trump
27:08
from
27:08
being
27:08
able
27:08
to
27:08
do
27:09
that
27:09
to
27:09
people.
27:11
And
27:11
I
27:11
know
27:11
that
27:12
right
27:12
now
27:12
things
27:13
are
27:13
bleak
27:13
when
27:13
it
27:13
comes
27:13
to
27:14
these
27:14
deportations.
27:15
The
27:15
fact
27:15
that
27:15
we
27:15
are.
27:16
We
27:16
are
27:16
seeing
27:16
American
27:17
citizens
27:18
being
27:18
deported,
27:19
we
27:19
are
27:19
seeing
27:20
people
27:20
that
27:20
have
27:20
not
27:21
committed
27:21
crimes
27:22
being
27:22
deported,
27:23
people
27:24
that
27:25
have
27:25
organized
27:27
protests
27:28
are
27:28
being
27:29
deported.
27:30
They're
27:30
being
27:30
deported.
27:34
It's
27:35
such
27:35
an
27:35
odd
27:35
world
27:36
that
27:36
we
27:36
live
27:36
in.
27:39
And
27:40
as
27:40
another
27:40
distraction,
27:41
Donald
27:41
Trump
27:42
has
27:43
now
27:44
in
27:44
the
27:44
process,
27:45
and
27:45
he
27:45
says
27:46
at
27:46
his
27:46
own
27:46
cost,
27:50
that
27:50
he
27:50
is
27:50
going
27:51
to
27:51
have
27:51
Installed
27:52
on
27:52
the
27:52
White
27:52
House
27:52
ground,
27:53
both
27:53
on
27:53
the
27:53
north
27:54
and
27:54
South
27:54
Lawn.
27:55
Two
27:56
beautiful
27:58
flagpoles,
27:59
100ft
28:00
tall.
28:01
Just
28:01
to
28:02
give
28:02
you
28:02
some
28:02
perspective
28:02
on
28:02
that,
28:03
the
28:03
national
28:03
monument
28:04
is
28:04
550ft
28:05
tall,
28:06
give
28:06
or
28:06
take.
28:07
So
28:08
they
28:08
won't
28:08
be
28:09
the
28:09
tallest
28:10
things
28:10
in
28:11
Washington
28:12
D.C.
28:13
but
28:13
you'll
28:13
certainly
28:13
be
28:13
able
28:14
to
28:14
see
28:14
them
28:14
from
28:15
almost
28:16
anywhere.
28:18
It's,
28:19
you
28:19
know,
28:20
the
28:21
White
28:21
House
28:21
already
28:22
has
28:22
a
28:22
flagpole
28:22
on.
28:23
It
28:23
stands
28:23
about
28:23
70ft.
28:24
Tie
28:25
on
28:25
top
28:25
of
28:25
the,
28:26
I
28:26
mean
28:26
from,
28:26
from
28:27
the
28:27
height,
28:27
from
28:27
the
28:28
height.
28:28
It's
28:29
about
28:29
70ft
28:30
and
28:30
it's
28:31
on
28:31
top
28:31
of
28:31
the
28:31
White
28:31
House
28:32
and
28:33
it
28:33
has
28:33
a
28:33
very
28:33
large
28:34
American
28:34
flag.
28:37
Is
28:37
there
28:38
some
28:38
fear
28:38
in
28:39
my
28:39
mind
28:39
that
28:40
potentially
28:40
Donald
28:41
Trump
28:41
wants
28:41
flagpoles
28:42
on
28:42
the
28:42
north
28:42
and
28:43
south
28:43
lawn
28:43
of
28:43
the
28:43
White
28:43
House
28:44
so
28:44
that
28:44
he
28:44
has
28:45
access
28:45
to
28:45
them?
28:46
He
28:46
does
28:46
do
28:46
a
28:46
lot
28:48
crazy,
28:49
wicked
28:49
stuff
28:50
with
28:50
his
28:50
hands
28:50
and
28:50
body
28:51
against
28:51
flags.
28:53
It's
28:53
a
28:53
weird,
28:54
it's
28:54
a
28:54
weird
28:54
kink.
28:55
Not
28:56
here
28:56
to
28:56
kink
28:56
shame
28:56
him,
28:57
but
28:57
it
28:58
is
28:58
odd.
28:59
So
28:59
just,
29:00
you
29:00
know,
29:00
be
29:00
aware.
29:03
Also
29:04
this
29:05
week
29:05
saw
29:05
that
29:06
Dr.
29:06
Oz,
29:06
who
29:07
by
29:07
the
29:07
way,
29:09
Dr.
29:10
Oz,
29:10
is
29:10
now
29:10
the
29:11
head
29:11
of
29:11
Medicare
29:11
and
29:12
Medicaid
29:12
services.
29:13
A
29:14
tv.
29:14
If
29:14
a
29:14
TV
29:15
personality
29:15
can
29:15
be
29:16
president
29:16
United
29:16
States,
29:17
then
29:17
a
29:17
TV
29:17
personality
29:18
can
29:18
definitely
29:19
be
29:19
the
29:19
head
29:19
of
29:19
Medicare
29:20
and
29:20
Medicaid
29:20
services.
29:21
Much
29:22
to
29:22
the
29:22
demise
29:23
of
29:23
the
29:24
actual
29:24
programs
29:25
and
29:25
administrative
29:26
state.
29:28
Dr.
29:29
Oz
29:29
is
29:29
now
29:30
the
29:30
head
29:30
of
29:30
Medicare
29:30
and
29:31
Medicaid
29:31
services.
29:32
And
29:33
as
29:33
his
29:34
first
29:34
act
29:35
has
29:36
somehow,
29:37
and
29:38
I
29:38
don't
29:38
know
29:38
if
29:39
this
29:39
act
29:39
now
29:40
requires
29:40
the
29:40
act
29:40
of
29:41
Congress,
29:41
but
29:41
has
29:42
somehow
29:43
increased
29:44
by
29:44
5
29:45
point
29:45
something
29:45
percent
29:46
in
29:47
payouts
29:47
to
29:47
providers.
29:48
Now
29:48
first,
29:48
that
29:48
sounds
29:49
like
29:49
that's
29:49
a
29:49
great
29:50
thing
29:50
because
29:50
providers
29:51
are
29:51
going
29:51
to
29:51
be
29:52
paid
29:52
more
29:52
for
29:52
the
29:52
services
29:53
that
29:53
they
29:53
do.
29:54
I
29:54
am
29:54
not
29:54
against
29:55
that.
29:55
I
29:55
absolutely
29:56
think
29:56
that
29:56
for
29:57
some
29:57
of
29:57
the
29:57
services
29:58
that
29:58
doctors
29:58
provide,
29:59
whether
29:59
it's
30:00
Medicare
30:00
Part
30:00
A
30:01
in
30:01
hospitals
30:01
or
30:02
Medicare
30:02
Part
30:02
B,
30:03
some
30:03
of
30:03
the
30:03
services
30:04
that
30:04
are
30:04
provided,
30:04
or
30:04
even
30:05
demerg
30:05
Medicare
30:06
Part
30:06
D,
30:06
which
30:06
is
30:07
mostly
30:07
your
30:07
durable
30:08
medical
30:08
equipment.
30:10
I'm
30:11
not
30:11
against
30:11
the
30:12
idea
30:12
that
30:12
providers
30:13
should
30:13
be
30:13
paid
30:14
better
30:15
for
30:15
the
30:15
services
30:16
that
30:16
they
30:16
provide.
30:16
Doctors,
30:17
Absolutely.
30:18
Nurses,
30:18
things
30:19
like
30:19
that.
30:19
Those
30:19
services
30:20
I
30:20
think
30:20
are
30:20
invaluable
30:21
and
30:22
should
30:22
be
30:23
recognized
30:23
as
30:23
such
30:24
even
30:24
under
30:24
the,
30:25
under
30:26
the
30:26
single
30:27
payer
30:27
system
30:27
that
30:27
we
30:27
have
30:28
with
30:29
Medicaid
30:30
included.
30:33
But
30:33
that's,
30:34
that's
30:34
not
30:34
what
30:34
this
30:35
5%
30:35
plus
30:36
or
30:36
minus
30:36
increase
30:37
is
30:37
going
30:37
to.
30:38
This
30:39
increase
30:39
is
30:39
going
30:40
to
30:40
the
30:40
administrative
30:41
costs
30:42
of
30:43
Medicare
30:44
and
30:44
Medicaid
30:46
and
30:46
that
30:46
only
30:47
benefits
30:47
the
30:48
insurance
30:48
companies
30:49
that
30:49
are
30:49
currently
30:49
under
30:50
contract
30:50
as
30:50
the
30:50
administrators
30:51
for
30:52
Medicare
30:52
and
30:53
Medicaid
30:53
services.
30:55
I
30:56
worked
30:56
for
30:57
a
30:57
company
30:57
here
30:58
in
30:58
South
30:58
Carolina
30:59
for
31:00
15
31:00
years.
31:02
That
31:03
was
31:03
the
31:03
administrator
31:04
for
31:05
Medicare
31:05
and
31:05
Medicaid
31:06
here
31:07
in
31:07
South
31:07
Carolina
31:08
as
31:08
well
31:08
as
31:09
then
31:09
it
31:09
did
31:09
expand
31:10
into
31:10
a
31:10
couple
31:10
other
31:11
states,
31:11
South
31:11
Carolina,
31:12
North
31:12
Carolina,
31:12
Tennessee.
31:16
So
31:16
the
31:16
administrative
31:17
costs,
31:18
the
31:18
administrators
31:19
are
31:19
going
31:19
to
31:19
be
31:19
paid
31:19
an
31:20
additional
31:20
5%.
31:21
These
31:21
people,
31:22
these,
31:22
these
31:22
companies
31:23
are
31:23
already
31:23
making
31:24
billions
31:24
on
31:24
the
31:25
administrative
31:25
cost.
31:27
Now,
31:27
that
31:27
includes
31:28
phone
31:28
services
31:29
for
31:29
providers
31:30
and
31:30
patients
31:31
or,
31:31
you
31:31
know,
31:31
Medicare
31:32
patients.
31:34
So,
31:36
but
31:36
the
31:36
actual
31:37
cost
31:37
of
31:37
administrating
31:38
these
31:38
has
31:39
not
31:39
gone
31:39
up.
31:40
Technology
31:40
has
31:41
gotten
31:41
better.
31:43
So
31:43
the
31:43
actual
31:43
administrative
31:44
cost,
31:45
which
31:46
has
31:46
been
31:46
recognized
31:48
throughout
31:49
the
31:49
last
31:49
10
31:49
years,
31:50
as
31:50
far
31:50
as
31:50
Medicare
31:51
is
31:51
concerned,
31:51
the
31:51
administrative
31:52
cost
31:52
of
31:52
Medicare
31:53
has
31:53
gone
31:53
down
31:54
thanks
31:54
to
31:54
technology,
31:55
computer
31:55
systems,
31:56
the
31:56
availability
31:57
of
31:57
networks
31:58
to
31:58
move
31:59
information
31:59
back
31:59
and
32:00
forth
32:00
particular
32:00
to
32:01
patients.
32:02
The
32:02
administrative
32:03
cost
32:03
has
32:04
gone
32:04
down,
32:04
but
32:04
we're
32:04
going
32:04
to
32:04
have
32:05
an
32:05
increase
32:05
of
32:05
5%
32:07
to
32:07
the
32:07
administrators
32:08
that
32:08
handle
32:09
those
32:09
Medicare
32:09
contracts,
32:10
those
32:10
Medicaid
32:11
contracts,
32:12
5%
32:13
increase.
32:15
The
32:15
insurance
32:16
companies
32:16
are
32:16
the
32:16
ones
32:17
that
32:18
are
32:18
the
32:18
administrators
32:19
of
32:19
Medicare
32:20
and
32:20
Medicaid
32:21
and
32:21
they
32:22
do
32:22
it
32:22
at
32:23
what
32:24
is
32:24
usually
32:25
the
32:25
lowest
32:26
bid.
32:31
So
32:31
where
32:31
Elon
32:32
Musk
32:32
and
32:32
Doge
32:33
and
32:33
his
32:34
Doge
32:34
warriors
32:35
are
32:35
supposed
32:35
to
32:35
be
32:36
fighting
32:36
to
32:37
prevent
32:37
fraud
32:38
and
32:38
manipulation
32:39
of
32:39
the
32:39
system
32:40
to
32:40
save
32:40
taxpayers
32:41
monies,
32:42
we've
32:43
seen
32:43
now
32:44
an
32:44
increase
32:45
in
32:45
the
32:45
amount
32:45
of
32:46
money
32:46
cost
32:46
to
32:47
transport
32:48
Donald
32:48
Trump
32:48
back
32:48
and
32:48
forth
32:49
from
32:49
his
32:50
White
32:50
House
32:51
to
32:51
his
32:52
Florida
32:53
house
32:53
and
32:54
other
32:54
other
32:54
clubs
32:55
every
32:56
weekend
32:56
so
32:57
that
32:57
he
32:57
can
32:57
play
32:57
golf.
32:59
The
32:59
cost
33:00
of
33:00
that
33:00
goes
33:00
up
33:01
because
33:01
it
33:02
can.
33:02
Donald
33:03
Trump
33:03
owns
33:03
those
33:03
resorts
33:04
and
33:04
he
33:05
gets
33:05
to
33:05
charge
33:05
for
33:06
all
33:06
that
33:07
have
33:07
to
33:07
be
33:07
in
33:08
his
33:08
presence
33:09
when
33:09
he
33:09
is
33:10
on
33:11
weekend
33:12
vacations.
33:12
I
33:13
guess
33:16
we're
33:16
about
33:16
to
33:16
hit
33:16
the
33:17
hundredth
33:17
day
33:18
and,
33:18
and
33:18
by
33:18
the
33:19
time
33:19
this
33:19
episode
33:19
airs,
33:20
we,
33:20
we,
33:21
we
33:21
will,
33:22
I
33:22
think
33:22
May
33:23
30th,
33:23
April
33:24
31st.
33:24
April.
33:25
That's
33:25
funny.
33:26
April
33:26
30th
33:26
is,
33:27
is
33:27
his
33:27
100th
33:28
day.
33:30
And
33:30
in
33:30
that
33:30
100
33:31
days
33:31
he
33:32
will
33:32
have
33:32
taken
33:34
pretty
33:34
much
33:35
close
33:35
to
33:36
a
33:36
quarter
33:37
or
33:37
a
33:37
third
33:38
of
33:38
his
33:39
time
33:40
in
33:40
office
33:40
will
33:40
have
33:40
been
33:41
spent
33:41
on
33:41
his
33:42
own,
33:43
on
33:44
his
33:44
own
33:44
golf
33:45
resorts
33:45
playing
33:46
golf.
33:47
That's
33:48
what
33:48
our
33:48
president
33:49
has
33:49
been
33:49
doing.
33:52
That's
33:52
what
33:52
he
33:52
wants
33:53
to
33:53
do.
33:53
Why
33:53
doesn't
33:53
he
33:54
just
33:54
retire?
33:55
Anyway,
33:56
that
33:57
is
33:57
going
33:57
to
33:57
wrap
33:57
it
33:57
up
33:58
for
33:58
this
33:58
episode
33:58
of
33:58
the
33:58
All
33:59
About
33:59
Nothing
33:59
podcast.
34:00
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34:00
you
34:00
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34:00
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34:00
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34:01
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34:01
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34:01
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34:01
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34:01
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34:02
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34:02
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34:03
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34:05
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34:05
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34:08
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34:08
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34:09
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34:09
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34:10
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34:10
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34:10
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34:10
Avinger
34:11
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34:11
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34:12
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34:12
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34:12
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34:13
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34:13
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34:13
Bill
34:14
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Amie
34:14
I
34:15
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34:15
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34:15
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34:16
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34:16
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34:17
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34:17
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34:18
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34:18
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34:19
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34:19
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34:19
we
34:19
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34:19
That
34:20
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34:20
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34:20
lot
34:20
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34:20
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34:20
We
34:21
are
34:21
going
34:21
to
34:21
do
34:21
that
34:21
again.
34:22
Actually
34:22
we're
34:22
going
34:22
to
34:22
do
34:23
that
34:23
every
34:23
season.
34:24
We're
34:24
going
34:24
to
34:24
do
34:24
one
34:25
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34:25
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34:25
every
34:26
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34:26
where
34:27
we
34:27
are
34:27
going
34:27
to
34:27
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34:27
the
34:27
play
34:28
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34:28
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34:29
And
34:29
so
34:29
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34:30
you
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34:30
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34:31
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34:31
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34:31
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34:31
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34:31
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34:31
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