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Debunking China Lies: A Ground-Level Tour of Shanghai with Dana "Showtyme" Burton · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Silken Steel Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host Carl Za. Today we have back on
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  Speaker 1: our show our returning guest, mister Dana Showtime aka the
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  Speaker 1: Godfather of Chinese hip hop. We had done two episodes
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  Speaker 1: together where I introduced Dana how he started the hip
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  Speaker 1: hop career in China, and we talked about how Dana
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  Speaker 1: took me on a tour of Shanghai. It was only
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  Speaker 1: the first day, you know. It took us two episodes
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  Speaker 1: to get through that, but worked back for more because
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  Speaker 1: there was so much content that we have for you guys,
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  Speaker 1: especially when Dana took me on my second on the
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  Speaker 1: third day tour of Shanghai around his neighborhood. Data say
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  Speaker 1: hello to my audience.
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  Speaker 2: Please, peace and blessings, love, and like this is show
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  Speaker 2: Time Dana Burton from the Almighty Iron Mike reporting live
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  Speaker 2: in the City of Dreams, in the Heart, in the
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  Speaker 2: Belly of the Beast, in the People's republica China, right
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  Speaker 2: here in Shanghai.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Dana. So what do you have
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  Speaker 1: for us today?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this was I just want to show people
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  Speaker 2: the community where I live in and I think there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of stories that we can learn from just
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  Speaker 2: exploring this community. I'm really grateful to be able to
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  Speaker 2: just take friends and loved ones from all over the
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  Speaker 2: world just to walk around the neighborhood that I live in,
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  Speaker 2: because I think you can learn so much about China
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  Speaker 2: from doing that. And so it was my honor to
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  Speaker 2: take you around. It was your third day, it was
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  Speaker 2: our second day together, and I think just for an
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  Speaker 2: overview for your for your viewers, this community is really
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  Speaker 2: going to show you two of the big programs that
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  Speaker 2: that China has been implementing. And what is the polity
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  Speaker 2: poverty alleviation program and the other is the Ecological Civilization,
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  Speaker 2: basically their efforts for environmentalism. And I just think this
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  Speaker 2: is just a good way to understand, uh, the development
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  Speaker 2: that has taking place in China. So I've I've got
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  Speaker 2: some pictures and photos to kind of curate you know
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  Speaker 2: what we saw when I took you around our community
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  Speaker 2: for for like half a day.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was fun.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: We were joined by a bunch of others. I bought
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  Speaker 1: a a white South African guy with me, and and
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  Speaker 1: then there was a girl from Georgia who was studying
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  Speaker 1: Shanghai who also joined us on this tour, so it
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  Speaker 1: was it was very likely little expat tour of Shanghai.
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  Speaker 2: So the take us, take us, Yeah, actually, yeah, we
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  Speaker 2: started off with the three of us, and actually throughout
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  Speaker 2: the day more and more people started to join our
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  Speaker 2: caravan from all over the world. I think by the end,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we also had some people from from all
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  Speaker 2: across the world. So yeah, let's go to the first
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  Speaker 2: picture with the skyline of the city. This is basically
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  Speaker 2: it's the community is called Costco two Bay, and it's
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  Speaker 2: a remarkable transformation. If you look at the top the
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  Speaker 2: first picture these pictures come from. This is as late
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  Speaker 2: as nineteen ninety seven, ninety eight, ninety nine. It was
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  Speaker 2: a complete shanty town urban and vellos.
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  Speaker 1: And you have that picture because they actually have a
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  Speaker 1: little mini museum exhibit in their community center where they
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  Speaker 1: have pictures of what the whole area used to look like,
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  Speaker 1: black and white photos. And I guess at the bottom one,
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  Speaker 1: this is a community you live in right now.
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  Speaker 2: Right This is literally the exact same before and after
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  Speaker 2: of the community. That's what it looked like in ninety eight,
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  Speaker 2: and this is what it looks like now. It's situated
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  Speaker 2: on Sujo Creek which bleeds out into the Huangpu River
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  Speaker 2: connected to the Ocean, that's connected to the Yellow River. Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: the Yanxi River, which I believe leads all the way
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  Speaker 2: to your hometown, chong Qing. So this is the massive Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So for people who not familiar with Shanghai, Suzo Creek
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  Speaker 1: is one of the major streams that run through Shanghai.
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  Speaker 1: And when I lived in China in nineteen eighties, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I often this is Shanghai because you know, I make
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  Speaker 1: my way down the Yangsa River with my parents, will
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  Speaker 1: take the boat tour down the yangs the river to Shanghai,
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  Speaker 1: and from Shanghai we take a bus or train to
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  Speaker 1: my grandma's house in zuch Young. But Shanghai, my memory
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  Speaker 1: of nineteen eighties Shanghai was the Suso Creek stinks. To
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  Speaker 1: the creek stank. It was like it was like the
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  Speaker 1: water quality was so horrible. It was like literally dark.
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  Speaker 1: The water was dark. And you can smell the Suso
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  Speaker 1: Creek from like miles away. I mean, it's it's not
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  Speaker 1: an environmentally friendly place, and it was famous nineteen eighties.
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  Speaker 1: Suso Creek was famous for being like really stinky, kind
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  Speaker 1: of almost a sewer of Shanghai. But so I was
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  Speaker 1: very pleasantly surprised when you took me a tour around
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  Speaker 1: the present day Suso Creek, because things really got cleaned up.
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  Speaker 2: It was a complete transformation, Karl. And it's a testament
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  Speaker 2: to the system of government over here. And it's all
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  Speaker 2: driven by the water. It's so amazing that this water
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  Speaker 2: connects to your hometown, from Shanghai to where you were,
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  Speaker 2: and it tells the story of the civilizational development of China. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: This is basically the high speed rail. Before high speed rail,
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  Speaker 2: the waterways. But it got so polluted because when the
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  Speaker 2: when the British and the American and the French had
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  Speaker 2: colonized this region, they basically built their factory and industrial region,
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  Speaker 2: uh industrial parks right on the creek. And this was
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  Speaker 2: the border of the the international settlement, the foreign settlement
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  Speaker 2: and the local community. And they would have their factories
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  Speaker 2: and they would dump all the sludge and and and
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  Speaker 2: pollute pollutants into the water. And and I guess this
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  Speaker 2: also continued during the early part of the development of China.
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  Speaker 2: But what happened was Costco was basically a state owned enterprise.
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  Speaker 2: It's the world's largest shipping and logistics firm. That's that's
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  Speaker 2: basically extracting all the you know, the tax money from
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  Speaker 2: the shipping industry. It's it's the the biggest shipping company
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  Speaker 2: from China on the Fortune five hundred. And it's funny
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  Speaker 2: that a lot of the taxes for a lot of
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  Speaker 2: projects throughout China, so it's super rich. And they took
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  Speaker 2: over this area, so it's it's a state own enterprise.
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  Speaker 2: They took over this area and they decided to redevelop
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  Speaker 2: it and clean it up and turn it into an
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  Speaker 2: eco friendly environment. They invested something around what is it
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  Speaker 2: like one point yeah, one point four billion US dollars
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  Speaker 2: to clean the water, clean out the pollutants, to clean
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  Speaker 2: up the air. And so this is what you're seeing
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  Speaker 2: in front of your eyes, this big and before and
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  Speaker 2: after and if you go to the next next.
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  Speaker 1: Just to be clear for people, for my American audience,
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  Speaker 1: this is Costco China Ocean Shipping Group Company, not the
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  Speaker 1: Costco Supermarket in the US. It's two different animals. The
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  Speaker 1: Costco Shipping China Ocean Shipping Group Company is like, as
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned, one of China's large not only one of
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  Speaker 1: China's largest one of the world's largest shipping company, and
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  Speaker 1: it's the largest shipping company in China and the second
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  Speaker 1: largest in the world. And he has a lot of
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  Speaker 1: presents in Shanghai. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, They've got like a thousand over one thousand plus vessels.
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  Speaker 2: They control a thousand ports. And it's also a key
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  Speaker 2: to cornerstone of China's Belton Road initiative. And so it's
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  Speaker 2: just not only just infrastructure, but sustainability and trade. Everything's
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  Speaker 2: coming together. But this district is Puto District. Again, it
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  Speaker 2: was a industrial wasteland. And if you go to the
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  Speaker 2: next picture, I just wanted to give you a contrast
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  Speaker 2: of what happened in the same period. So this is
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  Speaker 2: where I'm from in Detroit. You can see in two
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  Speaker 2: thousand and nine to twenty eighteen, in just those nine years,
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  Speaker 2: it's actually regressed. It's moving in the complete opposite direction.
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  Speaker 2: We've gone from in the fifty this this beautiful, nice
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  Speaker 2: urban homes, urban environment to complete wasteland. And so this
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  Speaker 2: is my experience, my journey from leaving my hometown, which
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  Speaker 2: is going backwards in time, back back to like the
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  Speaker 2: Stone Ages. We even got like wildlife and deer running
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  Speaker 2: around the urban parts of Detroit now, and I'm thrust
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  Speaker 2: into China, which is moving in the complete opposite direction
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  Speaker 2: with their poverty alleviation. If you go to the next picture.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm just for the timeline for people. This this
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  Speaker 1: is the result of the Great financial crisis in US,
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  Speaker 1: which US really never really recovered from, I mean, after
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  Speaker 1: the I call the Great Recession, you know, just two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and eight. That's also coincided when China hosts the Olympics,
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  Speaker 1: and that really you know, wow, the world and the
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  Speaker 1: world realize China is no longer this uh you know,
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  Speaker 1: poor world country anymore, but a rising power and and
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  Speaker 1: and you know, I still remember there was a south
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  Speaker 1: park at the soil when cartmen hat nightmares about the
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  Speaker 1: opening ceremony of the Chinese Beijing Olympics. But yeah, this
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  Speaker 1: is so this kind of coins, this is how the
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  Speaker 1: locks timeline coincided, you know, kind of the US in
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  Speaker 1: decline and China on the rise. So I'll go to
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  Speaker 1: the next picture.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, and this is like a view of a
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  Speaker 2: of a model apartment. You can see behind me, you know,
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  Speaker 2: my window you can't see clearly, but this is a
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  Speaker 2: spectacular view for people that live here. This isn't this
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  Speaker 2: this is like luxury living in the United States. To
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  Speaker 2: be honest, this is just an average model community in
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  Speaker 2: China right now. It's very affordable. The rents are like
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  Speaker 2: a thousand dollars to maybe three thousand dollars you know
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  Speaker 2: max in this area. So uh, you know, you can't
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  Speaker 2: find us. You can't even find us anywhere in America
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  Speaker 2: right now with the green space that we're going to see.
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  Speaker 2: But then we could jump to some of the videos
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  Speaker 2: from when you just first pull.
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  Speaker 1: Up to the community and I must say, you had
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  Speaker 1: you have the best view man, guess right outside your window.
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  Speaker 1: That's uh, that's one of the kind of the the
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  Speaker 1: that one of the architecture uh gem of Shanghai that
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  Speaker 1: went viral on Chinese social media. I think it's called
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  Speaker 1: like a thousand Trees or something because they make the
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  Speaker 1: building is shaped like a thousand trees and inside it's
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  Speaker 1: a shopping mall and uh and and a lot a
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  Speaker 1: lot of art center which you took us, took us
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  Speaker 1: to on a tour. So I'll go go to the
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  Speaker 1: next lie uh here, hello, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's go, all right, let's get it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go. Where are we going.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to my neighborhood. Welcome to Shanghai, City of Dreams.
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  Speaker 2: We're in Costco Bay, two Bay City, Costco Bay, and
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  Speaker 2: we're just in my backyard. Man, this is I walk
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  Speaker 2: right outside of my house. Yeah and yeah, we're just
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  Speaker 2: killing nice.
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  Speaker 1: So that's literally your neighborhood, that that was your You
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  Speaker 1: are like residential compounds, so for many people who don't
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  Speaker 1: know how you know, in many Chinese cities you will
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  Speaker 1: have these residential compound of multiple buildings. Okay, so did
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  Speaker 1: you turn off the value?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: So so like the A lot of the residential uh
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  Speaker 1: compound were built with many apartments, but it was self
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  Speaker 1: enclosed with a park, uh like where people can straw,
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  Speaker 1: children can play, old people can uh you know, exercise
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  Speaker 1: in the park. It's very nice. More specifically from South Africa, yes,
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  Speaker 1: we have what are you.
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  Speaker 2: He lives in Indonesia? Yes, yes, and we have I'm
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  Speaker 2: Danna from Detroit. So we have a black American who
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  Speaker 2: lives in Shanghai. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you just love breaking stereotypes? Yes, let's go, let's
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  Speaker 1: do it.
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  Speaker 2: It's like a bad joke. A black guy, white guy,
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  Speaker 2: Chinese guy walking in the Yeah, walking in the park, Shanghai.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go. So, so what's unique about this community? And
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  Speaker 2: this is gonna be breaking news for your show. You
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  Speaker 2: get to break the stereotype. Well basically break the fake
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  Speaker 2: news that Tucker Carlson did. So this is the community
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  Speaker 2: that Tucker Carlson put on on his channel and he
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  Speaker 2: claimed that people were starving to death, that people during
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  Speaker 2: COVID two thousand and twenty two in this area, just
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  Speaker 2: this complex. He showed the footage of my complex. You
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  Speaker 2: get the building here, I think, yeah, we can let
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  Speaker 2: it run and just kind of narrate. But yeah, this
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  Speaker 2: was just you can see like the effort by the city,
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  Speaker 2: you know, to create these green spaces, plants everywhere all
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  Speaker 2: surrounding the community. So they could you know, clean up
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  Speaker 2: the pollution. Whatever they did to the air, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: but this this is part of how they you know,
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  Speaker 2: absorb the CO two. I think it's like twenty one
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  Speaker 2: tons a year just in our in our community. Nobody
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  Speaker 2: was starving in this community. In fact, it was. It
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  Speaker 2: was one of the most well fed and well protected
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  Speaker 2: communities in all.
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  Speaker 3: So for those who don't know, you know, your background,
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  Speaker 3: you've been living at for how many years?
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, basically, you know, if we go to Germs Channel,
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  Speaker 2: he did a nice, very in detail. He'll show you
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  Speaker 2: the forward and back of the footage by Tucker Carlson
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  Speaker 2: where he tried to make it seem like we're starving
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  Speaker 2: and dying in this community. In a couple of seconds,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna show you what our community was like during COVID.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, people were not dying or starving.
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  Speaker 1: But Channel Channel, you seek UK columns, you know, on
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  Speaker 1: UK columns German warfare because that that's a white South
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  Speaker 1: African guy that was traveling with that sound of that day.
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  Speaker 1: And so he included that footage when we traveled and
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  Speaker 1: and and and and included the whole debunking story about
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  Speaker 1: because the original Carl Tuckerson showed a like a video
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  Speaker 1: that coming from China showing everybody was kind of yelling
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  Speaker 1: for the building and and he was presented as all,
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  Speaker 1: because people are starving, who are crying out for help,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, you you point out that was not
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  Speaker 1: the case because you actually lived in those buildings and
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  Speaker 1: and it was just people letting off stress.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely, we're just strolling through the community. So we're already
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  Speaker 2: debunking the COVID, the COVID myths and the propaganda. We're
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  Speaker 2: debunking the myths about pollution.
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  Speaker 1: Out here from all angles.
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna take some of this.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take some of your footage. Yeah, of course,
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  Speaker 1: of course, I mean that's what this is for.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but now are you using your mic.
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  Speaker 1: H I think so.
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  Speaker 2: So, Yeah, this is us just exploring. Uh, you kind
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  Speaker 2: of sweltering in the heat, and you can see a
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  Speaker 2: thousand trees in the background. But you know, we talked
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  Speaker 2: about how, you know, most people do not get to
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  Speaker 2: see this side of Shanghai. You may see the or
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  Speaker 2: the bigger cities, you'll see the amazing skyline, you know,
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  Speaker 2: but rarely do you get into a neighborhood and see
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  Speaker 2: how everyone is living on the ground. So I put
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of pictures. Now we can kind of go
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  Speaker 2: thumb through. You can just kind of skim through them,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, to deal with the the COVID situation.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the.
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  Speaker 1: Picture during covidility.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is right off.
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  Speaker 1: So are these food deliveries?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is food delivery. So Tucker cous E said,
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  Speaker 2: we're starving and we don't have food. But it's just
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  Speaker 2: there's even more amazing footage. But yeah, we have food
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  Speaker 2: being delivered to us each week for free and as
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  Speaker 2: well you can buy your own food while we were
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  Speaker 2: on lockdown. So these are people just you know, you
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  Speaker 2: come out to your to the front gate and get
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  Speaker 2: your food. And it was even more crazy how much
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  Speaker 2: food was was was lined up and those are like
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  Speaker 2: the rations that are sent to our home. You interviewed
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  Speaker 2: me during the lockdown, like right in the middle of it.
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  Speaker 2: We had a nice interview on your podcast and I
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  Speaker 2: explained what was happening. You know, it was gated up
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  Speaker 2: at that time. Certain parts of security were gated up.
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  Speaker 2: We did see there was an enforced lockdown.
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  Speaker 1: So you guys could try So you guys could get
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  Speaker 1: out of your building and walk inside the compound though
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  Speaker 1: right like in the parks and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we could walk. You if you had pets, you
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  Speaker 2: could walk your pets and go out to get some
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  Speaker 2: fresh air, step out, got it. But we yeah, we
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  Speaker 2: weren't allowed to leave unless we had a pass for
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  Speaker 2: a good reason. And because the compound is so big,
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  Speaker 2: it's so massive, you know, they sectioned it off. As
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  Speaker 2: we were walking through the the you know, just in
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  Speaker 2: my compound. You know, we saw we came across a
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  Speaker 2: Halo restaurant. We didn't go in there, but I'll show
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  Speaker 2: people so they can see what looks like. You know,
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  Speaker 2: how convenient it is and how common halo restaurants are
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  Speaker 2: in Shanghai.
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  Speaker 1: Urban design in China is now they're aiming to build
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  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes communities. The idea is once you you only
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  Speaker 1: need to go fifteen minutes in every direction to get
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  Speaker 1: every all your needs covered. And now they're building residential
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  Speaker 1: compound that will have everything. They have grocery shops that
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  Speaker 1: have malls that have you know, daycare for for babies,
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  Speaker 1: so you don't you don't really need to leave your compound.
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  Speaker 1: So this is a Halo restaurant that Yeah, this is
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  Speaker 1: a touch show men. And I can see the Chinese
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  Speaker 1: character for halau, which is chins in right here, looking
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  Speaker 1: at this is making me hungry.
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  Speaker 2: And right now you having flashbacks to Sein John.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you actually took me to allow restaurant later
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  Speaker 1: that evening. It was excellent. They're actually actually young food
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  Speaker 1: there as well. They had all kinds of Muslim foods.
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  Speaker 1: On all over China.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, so that's how ubiquitous it is. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this is the same one. Like this is I just
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  Speaker 2: walk out on my apartment and write downstairs and these
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  Speaker 2: are if you can see, it's connected to the base
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  Speaker 2: of the apartment. This is not even when you go
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  Speaker 2: out into the commercial district. There's over I think we
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  Speaker 2: have nearly like how many, like there's well over one hundred,
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  Speaker 2: over one hundred helal restaurants in Shanghai alone for the
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: sixty thousand Muslim community. But there's just ubiquitous. And then
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I took you to a much better one up the street.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is every day living.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: And this is another yeah, a noodle spot.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's a lot of lot, lot of Muslim
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: noodle places in Shanghai. And they're they're very affordable too.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: They're very they're very tasty, very clean, and very affordable.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: And this is what a typical meal looks like. So
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: you have you have the kebab, you have the noodles,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: and you have the roasted really a roasted bump. You know,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: it's in Central Asia, it's called samsa and and a man,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I'm getting hungry looking at these food pictures.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, and that that wasn't even five dollars.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: That is five you on five Chinese R and B,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: not five US dollars. That's a five Chinese are r
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: and b uh and and and on the on the
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: five R and B you can see it's there's actually
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: a portrait of a Tibetan woman and a Muslim man.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: You know, because they try to be inclusive national currencies,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: you will see like different ethnicity, ethnicity detected on the
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: official Chinese currency.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a throwblack. This one is is is out
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: of currency, but I wanted to bring it up just
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: to show people, and you.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Can this is from from nineteen eighties. This is like,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: this is how I remember the Chinese money, like from
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. Yeah, they still.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: They still had it in the late nineties when I
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: came that we were still using these fives and I
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: had them. Yeah you have think you know it's printed
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: in that time. But this is just how you like
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: ubiquitous Islamic culture and Muslim culture is in China. But
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: thinking about this a lot, because you know, with all
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: the false narratives I come from the United States. Now
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I remember some of my friends like, oh, you. You know,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: you're moving to China. That's not a Muslim country. And
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking in the back of my head, I'm like,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: the United States isn't a Muslim country, and so what's
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: wrong in China? And the truth is China is a
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: much more Muslim friendly and Muslim country in the United States,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: it has more Islamic heritage. You don't see halal restaurants
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: on every corner in America. Every airport is a halo restaurant.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: So they're Muslims everywhere. And actually, now, Carl, there are
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: a lot more Muslim tourists from from.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, from all over the glossal, from West Asia on Africa. Uh,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: there's a there's a city not that far from you
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: from Shanghai, a place called you, a place where my
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: wife wants to go. Actually, because you now become like
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: a major distribution center for a lot of the Chinese
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: manufacturer goods for the global South countries, but particularly West
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Asia and North Africa. And and you know, if you
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: go to you, they have all kinds of Muslim restaurants
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: from all over the world. They have like Lebanese food,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: they have Somali food, they have Cyrian food, your Vaki food,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: you name it. I mean like I intend to go
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: next time, you know, making making a blog out of it,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: because my wife wanted to go to to make some purchase,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: but I just wanted to go there to example the food.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I used to go to EU back in the
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: day a lot. It was one of the first places
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I went. I got some amazing memories of you. And
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: it's just like what you said, there's there's Muslims everywhere.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: It's like it's transporting you to not just the Middle East,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: but just like global Islamic culture, every kind of restaurant.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: It was the first time I ever saw at that
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: time in ninety nine, you know, we were having the
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: war on a on Afghanistan. It was even before nine
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: to eleven, we were still having conflicts and military interventions
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: in Afghanistan in Pakistan. And I remember, you know, seeing
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: these images of the Afghanis and then I finally meet
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: my first Afghani uh on the streets of China, and
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: these guys are wearing like the puffy hat and the
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: puffy pants with the olive green, with the green eyes
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: and the really brown bronze outive skin, and it was surreal.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: I also remember going to because I was with the
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Huai Muslim. He was a businessman and he was taking
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: me around. He was buying toilet seats.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: For my Anglo's audience. Wuay Muslims. They are the Chinese
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: people who are Muslim, but they primary language is like
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: whatever local Chinese dialect because because traditionally Houai is just
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: a word to refer to Muslims ski in China, but
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: today way Muslim is specifically for the Chinese speaking Muslims. Right,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: So also propose to someone who is maybe or Kazakh
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: or you know, turricake Muslims. Yeah.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: So yeah, So we're hanging out and he's taking me
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: to these you know, he's sourcing goods like luxury toilet
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: seats for golf golf Arab nations. And he took me
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: to a restaurant. I'll never forget the story. This was interesting.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: I was sitting down with one of the factory workers
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: and we were having food and he was local Chinese
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: and we were eating. We were eating bread. It's really good.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I think this was also a veager bread. And we
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: were trying to give him the bread and the guy
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: was like, no, I don't eat bread. He said, when
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I was poor, we used to always eat bread every day.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: He said, now my family finally has money, we eat rice,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: and so he rejected. I'll never forget that because that
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: was one of the craziest things I ever heard, because
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: he really came from poverty.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: But the Muslim bread China is so good though, I mean,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I had a lot. Why was each junk last month?
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: By traveling travel there? I and I were like, we
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: could eat this food every day. Yeah, not a problem.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, how they cook it with the with the oven,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: it's quite unique, with like to kill them and they
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: stick the bread on the side of the oven, and
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: so they really nice and crispy. So let's move on
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: more through the neighborhood. Again, let's just kind of scroll
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: through these pictures and I'll just give you a idea
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: of this community. You can see again the trees and
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: the transportation. This is the highway on on the right
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: and on the other side is a high speed rail
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: and train and subway system. So you get a you
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: get a nice feel for the environment. Again, this is
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: a walking city.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: That's another thing that really struck me, Like China has
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: so many walkable cities. You have like very nice pedestrian
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: sidewalk everywhere, and you have all these like sky bridges
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: that will like you can make crossing the street much
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: very even very convenient, and uh, you know, the only
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: only thing that could still be improved on is maybe
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: uh need more handicap access because I was pushing my
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: one year old baby with a big strawller. You know,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: we had to look for for like lifts. But but
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: it's getting better. It's getting better, you know, China is
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: still steadily improving.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: And so this is actually the top of one of
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: these walkway bridges you're you're you're speaking about, and this
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: just got built like a couple of months ago. There's
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: a there's a video at the end. We'll get to
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: it and then the next one. You can see the
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: view of the skyline and the water.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: This is across from your This is around your neighborhood.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Right, this is my neighborhood. This is all right across
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: the water all like, this is a five minute walk
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: from the front of my house. So yeah, everything you're
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: going to see is all within a fifteen minute walk.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: There's nothing. We're not going on a crazy adventure. Far
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: off you can see the signs for the public toilets
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: that have become biguitous and famous for how clean they
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: are and how how prevalent they are.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Uh kind of people will notice the cameras, but you
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: know these you know, but a lot of Chinese people
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: say the camera makes them feel safe, you know, because
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: the cameras aren'tubiguagues in China and places like Shanghai. But
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: let me tell you, women can walk here like two
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: o'clock at night, you know, with no fear. You know that.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: That's one of the things that's great about China is
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: physical safety. You can, you know, kids and women, they
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: can't go out after dark. Who's out fear? I mean?
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Quick?
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Next picture? Wait what happened?
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, oh this is a thousand trees let up at nights.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: So this is like the shopping mall uh complex that's
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: right outside of your house, which you had a full
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: view from your living room, and it's it's really amazing structure.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of Chinese social media video of people,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: you know, posing for picture outside of this place. Because
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: we actually got to meet the architecture that the architect
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: for that for that uh so, so the the architect
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: office that was responsible for designing this actually had an
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: office inside which we visited that was that was amazing.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: And so this is from the other side in the daytime.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: It's just spectacular. They're all these little parks around the
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: whole walkway. They are all little parks and rest spaces.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: And I found all of these few community free resources
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: like community centers. There's there's so much more that I
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: didn't know about that you could go in.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: What's great about this This is like off the beaten track.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: This is not a touristy area. This is just how
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: people each Shanghai, how the locals live. So I really
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: appreciate that you took us, you know, show us around
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: your neighborhood, because we really got to sense how you know,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: average Shanghai flats live their lives. This is all outside
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: of your This is a alstle right outside of your compound,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: right I remember we walk on that bridge.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we just right outside the compound. Then I go up.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: This is actually on top of a four story community
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: center which has all these rooms that you can use
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: for free for like meeting, lounging, conferences, studying. There's so
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: much to it. I just discovered it. And then from
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: the top you can just see on the right that's
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: the train station. And so that's basically when you walk
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: out your house ten minutes ten minutes walk, you're connected
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: the high speed rail, all all the rail system and
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: you can just take a train four hours to Beijing
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: or anywhere else all across China's that convenient. Or you
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: can do business and network so and just you don't
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: need a call for anything. Uh, and it's so affordable.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: But you know what, a lot of Americans will be
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: scared by this community center because usually outside of the
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: community center they have a big sign of sicle hammer
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: and sickle, he says, the Communist Party Community Center, right,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and like like if you if your mind has been
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: inundated with Western media, you will think, Okay, that's how
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: they brainwash. This is their their they're headquarters. There's HQ
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: for brain Control right for for their all the brainwashing activity.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: But if you go in, it's actually just a very
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: nice community center where they provide a senior citizen for
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: a place to hang out out. They have like books,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: they have like libraries, they have they have discounted canteen
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: you know where senior to them can get a discount meal.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: And we're gonna get there. I'm gonna show them everything
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: you talk about. And this is the other side. There's
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: so many art installations all over the walkway, just random
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: art installations throughout throughout the city. It's pretty amazing. You'll
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: just see all kind of creative, fun, cool stuff inspiring.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: And they seem to change quite often too. And then
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: the next the next video is you can see this
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: new walkway bridge that cut the path from I used
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: to have to walk out right and go all the
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: way around for a thousand trees and then keep going
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: to get to the art district. Now I can go
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: across to the left if you just go to the video,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: and then you can see this bridge that they built
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: for us that you can just can all just walk
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: across now to the M fifty Art district. And it's
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: just a walking bridge. It's like there's like track, so
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: it's soft at the bottom, you know, nice and cushioned
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: to walk on.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: But I have to keep reminding people these are not
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: tourists places in Shanghai. It's just a it's just as
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: like a like a normal Shanghai neighborhood, like a cool
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: trendy neighborhood.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: And yeah, check out the next one. They'll be I
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: think some guys are just playing the saxophone. Mm hmm.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Wow, that is a ay and that just still just
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: around your neighborhood.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: That's an everyday night out and like a walk on
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: the boardwalk, there's people doing all kinds of stuff. Just
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: it's so peaceful and serene. You know, people are playing jazz,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: kids are out playing. It's it's it's remarkable. It is
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: truly remarkable, and it's something that, yeah, more people need
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: to know about and see. It's completely different world than
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: what they want you to believe that China is, you know,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: everyday life.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: I really felt owner and privilege when you show me
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: all these places, because normally when I go to Shanghai,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I just go to all the touristy places, you know,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: go to the bond, go to the Nanjin was the
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: pedestrian street. Like, you really showed me how normal people
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: each other actually live. And it's great.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: And so now I think, while I start to pull
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: up these these these photos, this is the fifteenth city
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: map of our whole community, right outside of the community center.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: So can you see it clearly? Is there some stuff
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: you can read off that?
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see In Chinese it says fifteen minute
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: life circle and it says the Two Bay City, thesand
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: the Costco Two Bay City, and yeah, I can see
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: it's very nice. Actually I can see where the thousand
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I think that's where the thousand tree is, right, and
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: you're just living being other side of the river's so creep.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: It's really amazing.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: So it's this this kind of model community, this fifteen
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: minute city that everyone is fear mongering, and you know
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: in the West, people are like, oh my god, this
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: is the mark of the beast, is the end of
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: the world. If we have this type of community, we
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: don't want it. But this is how people are living
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: and it's so convenient. That was the the interest to
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: the canteen. And this is on the inside of the
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: community center where they have the model of the whole community,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: more models, video screens. Basically, the video screens are going
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: to show you everything that's happening in the community, all
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: the resources that you have access to.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: That big hammer and sickle sign right at the entrance,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: and the Chinese he says, everyone participates, paid, everyone is responsible,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: everyone contribute, everyone enjoy together. I mean, this is uh,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: this is our moto.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: So we didn't get to Yeah, we didn't get to
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: go out there. I'm gonna show you the video of
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: this actually speaking about what it is. I I want
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: to hear from you. I think this, Okay, I could
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: be wrong. I think this is a model because I
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: see these books all over the place. Is this like
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: the Book of Rights and with it like the inspiration
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: you know for this concept of shau Kaushahi, the the
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: the the model society, and that comes from the Book
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: of Rights and it comes from the writing of Confucius.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: But really it's just you know, the precursor to so
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Chinese socialism, uh socialism.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Chinese character is character is yeah.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: But from my understanding, China has this concept of a
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: model harmonious society that goes back centuries. I believe it's
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: called the Shao kaou Shi way, and it's coming from
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: the Book of Rights and the writing of Confucius. And
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: so that's why they have the book open and inside
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: they have the photographs of our community and how it
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: developed and progressed over time. And this is inside of
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: the community center. And you go inside the community center
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: and there's public laboratories, there's there's meeting halls. They you know,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I was just in there taking some friends around. There
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: were folks from the Communist Party, probably about sixty seventy
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: party members who are watching a public lecture. I wasn't
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: really sure like what they were being informed on, but
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: we just go through the picture kind of quickly each
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: one of the time, and then yeah, so this is
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: this is actually the photo inside of the book.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: And this is how people used to live in the
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: in this neighborhood. Oh and they said, Harry has a
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: date nineteen ninety eight October. It's amazing.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all the things that you know, everything I'm showing you,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: this is what it looked like in ninety eight. It's
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: just a remarkable transformation of lifting people up from poverty.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: You know, these fifteen minute communities were able to empower
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: the people so that they can save money on transportation,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: so they can have access to all of the community
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: resources that they need, and it helped lift them up
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: from poverty instead of living in squalor on top of
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: each other. You know, they're providing cost effective healthcare, public
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: education for everyone, ninety nine percent literacy rate, they're reducing
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: the diseases, and they're they're they're reducing the pollution. Completely
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: transformed and urban wasteland, and this is something we needed
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: to celebrate and commence.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: This is what you were talking about. It used to
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: be shanty towns. Your neighborhood used to be shanty towns
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: like this. And this wasn't that long ago, nineteen ninety eight.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: That's only like what the twenty twenty six, twenty seventies,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: twenty seven years ago. Yeah, within one generation, completely transformed
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: and now it looks like this. Now it looks like this.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: This is the inside that community center again with those
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: slogans and the Communist Party a sign in the background,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: and that's where they have those hosted, those photos of
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: the old photos of the Okay neighborhood.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: So yeah, this is us walking into it, me and
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: you and German.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: Service picture literally said the Communist sur But it's actually
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: just a community system community center.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome to the Communist Party local community center for
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: our fifteen minute city that is supposed to be so
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: nefarious and evil and spooky. We're gonna find out the
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: truth what really goes on in a Communist Party community center.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Let's go rock with my man called Joe. Let's go Joy,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: godfather of Chinese hip hop.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Stya from Detroit showtime.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: So we got our little map here and you can
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: see where the entire evil master plan begins and everything
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: is within fifteen minutes walk.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, this is a map of residential company.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole commun unity, which is a model fifteen
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: minute community. So within fifteen minutes walk you have access
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: to all the community resources that youever need.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Different community centers work here. Yeah, there's another community center.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: Here and here, and all the red basically red one
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: with a communist sickle hammer symbol is the police of
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: community center.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Basically every every block has their own community center.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: So we're like every four we're actually where we are
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: we uh, yeah, we're here. Yeah, we're here. And so
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: there's a this is a Suso Creek, Suso Creek, and
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: then there's a natural park, a park where they've they've
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: got all kinds of exotic birds going on community growth.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: You can walk just up there you get to the
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: railway station shahhai Jah and the high speed railway network.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: And then in the subway station two lines here, so
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: connected to the whole city. You see fifteen ten minutes.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Here's another one this. Yeah, I'm gonna skip ahead at
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: all of my nose right.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, you're you're the background.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: So yeah, here we go walking here.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, oh okay, so this is a this is an interest.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Okay they see.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have the worst camera angle. I was struggling
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: with that. I was struggling with my older gimbal.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: You know what, don't worry about it. The key is
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: you're showing the background, which is what people needed to
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: see what Shanghai actually looks like on the ground level.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: You know, there's there's whenever people show the Shanghai skyline,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: there will always be people on Twitter's. Oh but but
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: this just how they look from the way about because
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: they don't want to show, you know, what the city
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: is actually like at the ground level. Well, folks, this
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: is a Shanghai ground.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: So yeah, we can check out the next video. When
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: we come in the back door that leads directly from
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: the community. This is when they fear monger and they
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: tell you that the CCP is monitoring you and following
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: your every move. This is how they do it. This
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: is how they control us.
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: Let's go do that.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Do the brain center mark.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Exactly the brain center. We're gonna go through the back door.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Sneak in the back door and show you where they
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: do the brainwashing and they control everyone's mind twenty four
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: hours a day. So yeah, this is how they make
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: you a communist. Trans from you to a commonist processing
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: center and down and get it. We got public bathroom
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: air conditioning. Everyone could come in and use the center
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: for whatever they want. It's always clean. Just the small
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: library kitchen that is the the central kind of square
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: where they where we saw that book.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Uh all right, that's the that's the exhibit of the
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: old totals. I see it's little kids. I can't. Yeah,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: so we we were there in the middle of the day,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: so you know, most people are working, and the people
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: who were there either little kids or they're like old folks,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: senior senior citizens just enjoying their retirement.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think, okay, yeah, you can go to
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: the next one.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Oh houly. This is what they serve at the community
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: can Deem.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's basically a canteen specifically for the elders. And
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: so the food I I don't know if you can see.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: The price is all there everything like a dollar fifty
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: two dollars.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a photo. So they offer like a
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: discom price for senior citizens. It's Yeah, it's very very nice.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: That's a that's a fish. That's a piece of fish.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, may be hungry looking at all
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: these fixtures.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Many fish is my favorite dish. Okay.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: So so this is where when we're inside of the
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: thousand Trees and they have an art it's a bit Yeah.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: So basically the concept of a thousand trees, it's like
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: an art gallery and uh yeah, it's sort of like
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: a shopping mall and going to.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, will that will happen?
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: So yes, this is massive, massive shopping mall that on
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: the outside is full of living trees, over a thousand
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: living trees, and the pillars are actually sort of like
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: the roots of the tree, and it's just filled with
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: really creative, innovative kind of I'm gonna stop this, get
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: this true reality spaces and papes. It's almost like an amusement.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: And then and then take a break after the swamp.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: This is the museum or the or the studio, the
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: studio of the designer and many of the the architecture
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: that he's designed all across China, and say, that's pretty incredible.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: And people are actually in there right now working design stuff. Yeah,
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: we're gon, we're gonna take you inside. I think it's
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Heatherwick Heatherwick Studio. This guy is an English architect and.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm the like this worst.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Trying to leave it to I've actually never been to
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: this one.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Pictures of social media and we have better footage. I'm
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: gonna have the one time. I'm gonna have to uh
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: sit down and edit all my footage together to to
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: to showcase some of our you know, make up video
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: blog of our our tour in Shanghai. But I see
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: you are showing some of these, uh our pieces inside.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: This is the uh yeah, that was the if you
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: go back for a second, that was Yes, Thomas Heatherwick
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: and his concept is human eyes and this is his
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: his architectural firm that designed the one thousand trees and
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: most of his work if you look at it, it's
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: inspired by this probably like a honeycomb. He's inspired by
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: things in nature like mushrooms and crazy crazy stuff like that.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: I guess he's designing automobiles as well. Uh so what
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: do you think, Carl.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Would they would be?
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is back to the welcome to say hi bro.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: So this is the insight the architectural firm's office that
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: they have. You know, they let people just walk in
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: and take a peek, and it was really cool.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what is this. This is just the first floor
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: of the shopping mall and they're having like a day
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: like service for senior citizens. So they're cutting their hair,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: giving them medical care. They use the shopping mall. It's
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: like a community center and.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: It looks like a birthday party.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like telling you in the last in
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: the last episode that my god daughter it was her
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: fifth birthday. She celebrated her birthday in the shopping mall.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: So I just showed you the juxtaposition of the elderly
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: people and then the young people. It's like shopping mall
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: is a little bit different in China. This is a
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: space for the whole community, young people, elderly. It's like
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: a community center. But but yeah, that's this kind of
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: the ebb and flow of what's going on inside of
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: a thousand trees. And I think that what else, Yeah,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: we saw Heathway. I think the last thing, Carl, we
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: can go ahead and I'll share how we ended the day,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: but maybe you want to talk a little bit about
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: your you summarize when I pull up this material. Yeah,
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: just your overall experience in my community.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: It's great. It's great. I mean, I will not ship
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: talk about Shanghai again. It's really a fantastic city. Like
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: people have a great living environment. I told you before,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: back in even twenty ten, I said, China is a
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: great place to visit for travel, but I would not
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: see myself living here because it was still even back
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: in twenty tens, it was still horribly polluted. You know,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: the air wasn't that great, that the pollution was terrible.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: And then I went back to China in twenty nineteen,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: to my great surprise, there was everything was cleaned up,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: you know, from big cities like Beijing, Shanghai to even
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: small tongue bordering Meandmark, everything is cleaned up. And there's
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of infrastructures that build up. And this time
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: of when travel to China, I just saw how convenient
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: it is now for people who live in China, you know,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: with all these mobile apps, everything is at your fingertips
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: literally and and and it's a and Shanghai is a
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: great walkable city. Even though we we visited you during
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: the heat wave, it was a little bit hard walking
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: outside in the in the high humidity, but it was
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: still a great experience. I highly recommend people to travel
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: to China, uh you know, maybe not during the uh
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: just just not during the Chinese holiday season, like you know,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: maybe like toured the second half of October when things
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: are started to cool off. That's the greatest time to
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: visit China. That's that's my advice. Just go visit.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, way too prouded in the uh the holiday season.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Please avoid it on the holiday season.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do not do not go on Chinese New Year Week,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: do not go on the National Day, Golden Week, do
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: not go on around the Labor Day week the other
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: other days. I think, okay, yeah, okay, Carol.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: So now we're gonna wrap up the trip to my neighborhood,
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: and I wanted to take you. I know that you
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: were right after this, you're gonna go to shin John,
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: and I wanted to kind of uh spoil your Chine
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: John trip in Shanghai and just ended off with some
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: good old fashioned way flavor. This is the kitchen. Photo
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: of the kitchen outside of it. We can just quickly
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: go through these, we can.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Just quick This is the Muslim rest, your favorite Muslim
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: restaurant that you took us to, which like by that
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: time we were already hungry, had walked around it quite
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: a bit, and the food was just fantastic. The place
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: is huge, by the way that the whole Muslim restaurant
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: is huge, and out just outside of it that actually
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: have all different other different kind of Muslim food all
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: over China. There's we were food, there's way food on
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: north West you know that you can't you name it,
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: and like that place is huge. It's like three floors.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: We for.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: Like find ironing is on the second floor, I think,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: but we went we're on the first floor, and there
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: were just so much delicious food. That's that's okay, hold on,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: hold on, that's that's not us.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: So this is actually on the second floor. And this
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: is my homeboy, a rapper g ns Yah y'all. He's
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: actually half Tibetan, half Mongolian and he's from Chinghai, a
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: really dope rapper and he came to town and because
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: he's just this he's in that part of the world,
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: you know, he loves halal food and Islamic food. And
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: we were upstairs so you can see the kind of
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: stuff that yeah, you you you got to taste it
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: at its freshest point when you went to seen John,
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: you can go to the next one.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Really, I can see he his wearing the Buddhist beads
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: around his breast rest. Yeah, that the prayer beads. Okay,
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: let's see yeah, oh this is that? Is that yack meat?
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Is that momo that looks like and that's okay, that's
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: that's a but that's plow. That's the kind of Central
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Asian food, you know, with raisins and lamp Oh man,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: I'm hungry just talking about this.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: So before before you go to the next okay, you
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: already be to it. Let's look at the videos. Let's
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: look at the last three videos before we close out,
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: and then we look at the phone of the capital. Well,
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: this is the restaurant and they have so this is
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: when we were walking up.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: To us as bustle as usually you know, as it
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: usually is, you'll get aa get a get a view
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: of how big the restaurant is.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: And it's actually it's called Wave Flavor, as you explained,
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: like the Wayne Muslim Chinese, but inside it's pretty much
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: all of China's Islamic allowed food and their chefs from
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: all over Chinas subjec way and they have like this
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: little bizarre out front and I'll show you even a
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: better video, but it's like really popping. It's kind of
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: arles when we win. But they're selling fruit sounds because
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: like us it there's music playing out front, so the
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: music's not bulling, it's like glaring. Yeah, I was like,
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: where's the party? Usually you walk up in this entire
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: jam session out from you. Guess what a little boy?
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: All right, you need to be a little bit battered
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: video for next time.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: I'm horrible.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Let's see another video.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is when I went a couple of months earlier.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Like when they open with the bizarre out front, the
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: people can see us walking in what it looks like. Yeah, sure,
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: but I mean for a place that's a you hate Muslims,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: I hope people can see the.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 7: Reality muslim a loud paradise.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: How ill know you'll find now?
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah you can? You can't. You can't watch them making
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: the flash.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah I can go to the next one. Yeah, we
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 7: could check the last one.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 8: We got Middle Eastern kind of lie from Shane how
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 8: City of Dreams.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: The music that's that's a Wigward music. I don't know.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like the people love Islam. I love
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Halal food Way Flavor Halao Restaurant.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: I don't know, folks, that.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: You're making me hungry. Man, you're making it. I'm hungry too.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: That's my favorite.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: Except you can't just walk over there and have another deal.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I gotta buy a whole whole plane ticket to travel
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: to China. Let me see what some of the pictures.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Let's go back to this. Oh did you remove those pictures? Yeah, okay,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: that's that's our group photo at the end of the
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: end of the day, after we all had our fill
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: of of the food. Yeah, that was great. That was
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: a great day. Thanks thanks uh Faina for showing us around.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: It was a great tour.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That was our international crew that just picked up
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: from walking around. Well, they just kept getting bigger and bigger,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: adding more countries.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. People keep on timming me that day when
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: I was paying out with you and they want to
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: hang on. Okay, well, Dana, just give me a tour.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: You're you're feel free to tag along. So our group
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: just got bigger and bigger. Uh yeah, that was great.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. Yeah. The last picture is just there's
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: just the two of us. Yeah, well, yeah, brother, that
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: was it. It was my first time meeting Karl Jah
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: and getting a chance to bring him to show him
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: what life is really like in Shanghai, the daily life,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: the community.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: I was wearing the same shirt. I was wearing the
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: shirt I wear right now.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Funny.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's good times, man, I missed it already.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: Uh so I will actually be traveling to China around February,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: but I will be going back to my hometown twenty
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: Jing just before the Chinese New Year. So yeah, hopefully
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: there will be other opportunities for me to go to
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: Shanghai and meet up with you again. That was That
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: was great times my pleasure.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 6: Brother.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look forward for you to come back and we
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: can have some more adventures. And I think today yeah,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: we debunked a lot of myths about China, COVID scare, pollution, Muslims, uh, poverty,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: poverty alleviation. So yeah, there it is so encouraging more
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: people to visit the People's Republica China and don't fall
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: into the propaganda that's being spread nowadays. It's I think
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: the United States has a budget of like two point
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: six billion dollars to propagandaize China, and so you don't
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: get a realistic perspective of what it is. And it's
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: incumbent that we, particularly at this time as they're ratching
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: up the war machine, Uh, that we we spread the
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: truth and allow people to make these real important people
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: to people connections.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean is believing that. Why I just urge
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: everybody just go go go visit. China is a great
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: country for travel, super safe, very convenient. You do you
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: do need some little bit onboarding. You need to do
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: some research because you know, English is not that common
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: in China, so so you have to do a little
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: bit of homework. But otherwise it's a great place to travel,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: highly redd So.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, brother, I think that's that's it. That's the end
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: of the tour, the journey that that you have the
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: better footage of. So I'm looking forward for your final edit.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it'll take me some time. I have so
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: many footage. I just don't know when I'm gonna have
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: time to sit down and put it together in a blog.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: But there's I have some amazing footages there, man. Yeah,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: look forward to that. And uh and Dana, always a
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: pleasure to have you on and uh and while I
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: look for future update from you from the People's Republic
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: of China. From your very unique perspective as a black
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Muslim man from from Detroit and who have lived, who
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: has who held the title of the longest living black
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: pers Black Americans in China in the People's Republic of China.
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  Speaker 1: Always an interesting person to talk to.
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  Speaker 2: a search on my page and hopefully you'll find something interesting.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Thanks folks, Thank you Dana, and thanks for
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