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NHL DFS Process | DraftKings & FanDuel Picks, Plays & Slate Breakdown | Tuesday, 12/16/25 · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Fall systems going clear the left of what is going
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  Speaker 1: on ship at Nation YouTube station.
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  Speaker 2: We got a special edition little shell going on here
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  Speaker 2: today Tuesday, NHL on the dock at only one NBA game,
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  Speaker 2: I believe, and massive, massive prize pools. It's one of
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  Speaker 2: the four or five nights that we get a year
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  Speaker 2: when you can get five figures plus six figures even
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  Speaker 2: tonight in the NHL lobbies and got my guy Sheets.
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  Speaker 2: He's been red hot in the NHL streets. Excited to
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  Speaker 2: jump on here and talk about NHL dfs. And I
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  Speaker 2: think we got some nice tools over at Shipping Nation
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  Speaker 2: to help the subscribers out. And obviously I had up
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  Speaker 2: all the content in terms of core plays, slate plan
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  Speaker 2: things like that. But Sheets bring you in, man, you
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  Speaker 2: love any NHL dfs. You've been having a heck of
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  Speaker 2: a season so far. Screenshots left and right, and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: excited to talk through this ten games slate. I'm glad
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  Speaker 2: it's a ten game, not one of these fourteen to
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  Speaker 2: fifteen game slates that typically when they post these big
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  Speaker 2: prize pools that's typically what we see. Ten games isn't
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  Speaker 2: isn't too crazy, It's it's up there. But it's it's
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  Speaker 2: a lot better than the fifteen sixteen game slates that
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  Speaker 2: sometimes we see.
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  Speaker 1: How you doing, brother good?
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  Speaker 3: I mean I love nhldfs. I mean honestly, I love
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  Speaker 3: all of the fs. I mean perfectly honest every every
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  Speaker 3: sport provides like just completely different challenges, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: they're all just different in certain ways. The reason why
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  Speaker 3: I really really like NHL is it's very similar to baseball,
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  Speaker 3: and it's very similar to even to legal legends if
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  Speaker 3: people can follow this this whole logic. And one of
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  Speaker 3: the things that's really interesting to me about dfs in
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  Speaker 3: general is how different sports emphasize correlation differently than others.
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  Speaker 3: Some sports it's literally just the one big projection game,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like who has the best projections? You know,
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  Speaker 3: one player has nothing to do with the other, and
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  Speaker 3: you just kind of have to kind of manage your
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  Speaker 3: portfolios that way. But sports like baseball and hockey, where
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  Speaker 3: one result is completely dependent upon the other, it's just
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  Speaker 3: extremely interesting to me. And that's why I get involved
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  Speaker 3: in hockey. And I don't really watch hockey like for
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  Speaker 3: fun or anything like that, I mean honestly, but all
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  Speaker 3: of dfs. I'm just one of those people that's just
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  Speaker 3: been poisoned. And I don't really watch sports for fun
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  Speaker 3: at all anymore. I just again, DFS has ruined my
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  Speaker 3: entire sporting experience. But but hockey for me, I just
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  Speaker 3: I just enjoy quite a bit. And even the sweat
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  Speaker 3: in hockey is amazing because I don't know whether they
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  Speaker 3: do this on purpose, but it's always these freaking ten
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  Speaker 3: o'clock games that that that are that are deciding it.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know why, whether it's because of ten
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  Speaker 3: o'clock or it's because Edmonton always plays a ten you
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  Speaker 3: know whatever, But in any case, it's never over. You
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  Speaker 3: get that awesome or kind of cruel empty net goal,
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  Speaker 3: uh sweat at the end, you know, God forbid it
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  Speaker 3: goes to overtime. It's just awesome. It's like never over.
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  Speaker 3: And I have to say, I mean, I've I've been
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  Speaker 3: really really hot this whole season. And I'll share my
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  Speaker 3: process with you guys. It's not particularly complicated, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: looking forward to get, you know, to hearing you go
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  Speaker 3: a little more deep divis, you know, because I don't
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  Speaker 3: really do a lot of the individual stuff, you know whatever,
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  Speaker 3: but I like I want to learn from you as
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  Speaker 3: far as this stuff goes, and I don't I don't
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  Speaker 3: think it's an accident that the other the other sport
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  Speaker 3: that we've done together, is they right? So I'm kind
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  Speaker 3: of interested in hearing how you approach this sport. And listen,
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  Speaker 3: we got the whole floor.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 3: There's one freaking stupid NBA showdown slate on the board
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  Speaker 3: and everybody's playing hockey tonight. And before you guys get
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  Speaker 3: all like like, oh my god, it must be so
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  Speaker 3: soft because everybody's playing hockey, not exactly, because because all
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  Speaker 3: the people who are like expert sim guys and expert
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  Speaker 3: the best players in general, they're no, they're no idiots either,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and they don't have to worry about NBA tonight,
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  Speaker 3: so they can they can really hammer it home. So
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  Speaker 3: it's not gonna be easy, but definitely up for the challenge.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, definitely excited to talk through it. In NHL
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  Speaker 2: stacking is obviously, Key will talk about that in a
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  Speaker 2: little bit here, And yeah, I mean NHL there there's
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  Speaker 2: a good foundation in a base of players, sharp players
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  Speaker 2: anyways that play every night.
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  Speaker 1: The prize pools are fairly decent for a niche sport.
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  Speaker 1: In general.
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  Speaker 2: You got much better prize pools in NHL than you
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  Speaker 2: do some of the other niche sports like League of
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  Speaker 2: Legends things like that that you can draw some conclusions
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  Speaker 2: in DraftKings has done fairly well at keeping the NHL
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  Speaker 2: prize pools serviceable to at least continue to play kind
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  Speaker 2: of year round.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, NFL kind of trumps all sports right for a
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  Speaker 2: DFS perspective, by no surprise, right, popularity things like that,
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  Speaker 2: and just everyone loves loves football in general, so when
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  Speaker 2: there's showdown slates and things like that, NHL takes a
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  Speaker 2: backseat when especially.
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  Speaker 1: When NFL, NBA and NHL are going on.
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  Speaker 2: But usually we get four or five nights a year
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  Speaker 2: where you get really really big prize pools, and then
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  Speaker 2: every night you're you usually can see ten twenty k
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  Speaker 2: up top, regardless of what your buyings in, and usually
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  Speaker 2: it's anywhere from five to twenty dollars, and you have
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  Speaker 2: a chance to at least win five figures which anyone
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  Speaker 2: can sign up for single.
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  Speaker 1: Entry stuff twelve dollars five dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Single entries are usually one thousand dollars the first right,
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  Speaker 2: so twelve docks five dollars. You can build a bankroll
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  Speaker 2: that way and at least like get in, test it out,
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  Speaker 2: and play it.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, no looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 2: And let's just talk stacks in general here, sheets, and
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  Speaker 2: I know NHL there's a lot of new viewers, I'm sure, right,
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  Speaker 2: this is our first NHL show on the season here,
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  Speaker 2: And just like baseball, right where you want to stack,
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  Speaker 2: I say it's more prominent to stack in NHL.
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  Speaker 1: And the reasons being is the way the scoring works.
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  Speaker 2: Right, If a player scores a goal, he gets eight
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  Speaker 2: and five eight and a half points for that, But
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  Speaker 2: usually most goals have a primary assist and a secondary
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  Speaker 2: assist and those are both worth five points each. So
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  Speaker 2: you're talking if you have a fully correlated goal and
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  Speaker 2: you've got all three guys, you're looking at eighteen and
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  Speaker 2: a half points.
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  Speaker 1: Right away for your roster, which is huge.
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  Speaker 2: And the nice thing about NHL is they run line
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  Speaker 2: shifts right, so it's usually one to two minutes shifts
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  Speaker 2: depending on what the team is, So all of your
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  Speaker 2: players realistically are all out there getting ice time anywhere
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  Speaker 2: from depending on the player that the top end guys
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  Speaker 2: are going to get anywhere from sixteen to twenty one
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  Speaker 2: to twenty two minutes depending on what the team is,
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  Speaker 2: so you always have chance for opportunities to get scoring
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  Speaker 2: out there, and then obviously the block shots and things
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  Speaker 2: like that, but really we're looking for the goal scoring
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  Speaker 2: because that's where the assist and the primary assists, secondary
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  Speaker 2: syst and the goal points come in.
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  Speaker 1: And that's really what kind of separates yourself.
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  Speaker 2: So I know, you have some stacking thoughts and you
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  Speaker 2: kind of hone your stacks into really three main stacks
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  Speaker 2: that you like to run. And it's one of the
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  Speaker 2: only sports that you kind of do manual adjustments in
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  Speaker 2: terms of throwing out additional stuff and just kind of
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  Speaker 2: really hone it in and then obviously trust your numbers
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  Speaker 2: in your process that you have. So why don't you
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  Speaker 2: talk a little bit about, yeah, sacking.
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  Speaker 3: So what's cool again about hockey is that because it's
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  Speaker 3: a stacking sport, you don't have to get that many
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  Speaker 3: things right, you know what I mean, Like in the
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  Speaker 3: NBA you've got to get all the players right, NHL
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  Speaker 3: and baseball, if you get the stack right, it's probably
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  Speaker 3: all going to kind of like fall into place, you know,
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  Speaker 3: because if you get one goal, it's usually going to
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  Speaker 3: come with an assist and whatever it is. And as
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  Speaker 3: long as you can kind of accept the fact that
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  Speaker 3: the best stack is not always going to win, that
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  Speaker 3: you want to you know, fade it, fade high ownership
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  Speaker 3: and things like that. I think hockey is a very
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  Speaker 3: easy sport to kind of play, okay, because you don't
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  Speaker 3: have to sweat, I don't want this defenseman over that
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  Speaker 3: defenseman from another team. It still drive you freaking crazy,
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  Speaker 3: especially in a sport. And I don't know what your
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  Speaker 3: thoughts on this, but listen, I love what I've done
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  Speaker 3: with my projections, I really do. I've worked a lot
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  Speaker 3: on them, and I'm very proud of them or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, I mean, it's
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  Speaker 3: just not really a projectable sport in the way that
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  Speaker 3: like basketball is, because of the way that the scoring
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  Speaker 3: is distributed, Like like you said, it's a guy gets
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  Speaker 3: zero zero zero zero zero ten, you know, or then
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  Speaker 3: or yeah, you get a little bit of a shot
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  Speaker 3: of shots on goal whatever. So it's not as brutal
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  Speaker 3: as as some of the sports. But this one, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's to differ between one guy of sixteen point
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  Speaker 3: eight three and another at seventeen points to four to
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  Speaker 3: three is just kind of ridiculous, you know, so like
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  Speaker 3: for me again, because I'm so like enamored with this
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  Speaker 3: whole correlation. You know. Analysis I feel is that the
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  Speaker 3: amount that lines correlate and players correlate is even underestimated
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  Speaker 3: by the industry in general, whether it be you know,
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  Speaker 3: individual players, whether it be saber sim whether it be whoever.
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  Speaker 3: I think that the correlations is even more violent than
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  Speaker 3: people realize. So to that end, I mean what I
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  Speaker 3: do and again hashtag whatever works, right. I only play
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  Speaker 3: lineups that either have a full on six man onslaught,
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  Speaker 3: a five to two, and a four to three. Everything
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  Speaker 3: else for me gets xed okay, pre flop. And that's
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  Speaker 3: again something I never do in any other sport, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: but in hockey, I'm just so confident in this that
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  Speaker 3: I'm willing to do it. I'm not even gonna build
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  Speaker 3: hold the lineup. I used to kind of like heads.
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  Speaker 3: I used to say, Okay, I'll build five thousand lineups
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  Speaker 3: and then I'll excel like the bad looking ones, you
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  Speaker 3: know what after that that at this point, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: even doing that. I just fire them all. Now with
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  Speaker 3: that said, you asked me a very you know, good
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  Speaker 3: question over Discord a couple of days ago. Well do
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  Speaker 3: you do that even like three three game slates and
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  Speaker 3: stuff like that. I mean, I guess I'll dodge that
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  Speaker 3: question by saying I just don't play three games slates,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: I would do if I played them. I probably would
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  Speaker 3: keep them as just the same rules, honestly. But uh,
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  Speaker 3: that's that's a big, you know, leap of faith that
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  Speaker 3: I've just made. And all I can say is that
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  Speaker 3: of all of the and I've won plenty of GPPs,
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  Speaker 3: so many of them have been like six man onslaughts
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  Speaker 3: that and people, really it's just it's just it's just
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  Speaker 3: so cool when the whole team just frog just piles
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  Speaker 3: on and gets the win like that. It just happens
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  Speaker 3: more often. I think that people then people play. So
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  Speaker 3: my my my process is listen, I look at the projections,
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  Speaker 3: I look at my stack ratings, and then I just
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  Speaker 3: kind of fire it, you know. So that's that is
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  Speaker 3: my process. But I'd love to go through the game
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  Speaker 3: by game and see what your thoughts are and all
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  Speaker 3: this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely, And I'm I've always been a four
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  Speaker 2: to three kind guy too, And this year and this
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  Speaker 2: season based on doing some lineup for study and in
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  Speaker 2: lineup review of your your portfolio and some of the
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  Speaker 2: other really good NHL players that usually do m me nightly,
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  Speaker 2: I've seen five, two and six man on slots and
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  Speaker 2: the reason for that is usually a team like tonight,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about Colorado, right, massive, massive favorites, the
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  Speaker 2: best team in the NHL. So to speak, right, when
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  Speaker 2: you have a team like that, I mean it's or well,
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  Speaker 2: Colorado is probably a bad example because of their prices
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  Speaker 2: in the way they shof their lines and things like that.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably a better example of like a Columbus team
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  Speaker 2: who's gonna get a lot of ownership here tonight. So
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  Speaker 2: teams like that, when most people are gonna cut it
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  Speaker 2: off at a four man stack, going to the fifth
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  Speaker 2: or the sixth skater and just making a bet on
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  Speaker 2: that team that hey, they are going to score four
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  Speaker 2: to six goals and if they do that, you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: lap the field usually from the guys that have the
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  Speaker 2: four skaters, right.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a very sharp movee in general.
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  Speaker 2: And again when we're talking four three, five to two,
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  Speaker 2: you're talking four skaters that are all correlated to five skaters.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe in this first game we're going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about is Boston and Utah here, which is basically a
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  Speaker 2: pick them at Vegas. Both teams implied around three goals
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  Speaker 2: swim in in that vanta check, and that at least
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  Speaker 2: projected right now, it would be like Nick Schmultz, Clayton Keller, Gunther, Peterka,
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  Speaker 2: and Sergachev. Right, just for for the sake of example,
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  Speaker 2: that's five skaters. They all correlate on the same power play,
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  Speaker 2: and then you would find two other skaters from another
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  Speaker 2: team that usually it's probably value right to be able
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  Speaker 2: to fit with that, and then you have a one
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  Speaker 2: off right regardless of what that position is. So when
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  Speaker 2: we're talking scat stacking and four to three five to
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  Speaker 2: two six man stacks, that's what we're talking about in
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  Speaker 2: terms of the roster construction, and that's usually how we
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  Speaker 2: approach it. I do the same thing. I always played
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  Speaker 2: four to three. This year, I've I've played a lot
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  Speaker 2: more five to two. Haven't really dabbled too much with
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  Speaker 2: the with the six man stacks, but it totally makes
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  Speaker 2: sense to the point of adding the additional layer, right,
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  Speaker 2: you talk about it in the NFL. It's very similar
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  Speaker 2: in NFL. The most popular game environment on the slate. Right,
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  Speaker 2: say it's got a fifty five total, most people are
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  Speaker 2: getting in their quarterback plus two one on the other
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  Speaker 2: side and cutting it off. Well, how many times do
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  Speaker 2: you see the overstack of that game? Take it to
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  Speaker 2: the next level, right, and you get different and kind
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  Speaker 2: of have an advantage on the field that way.
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  Speaker 1: So let's jump in here talk the first game.
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  Speaker 2: Like I talked about Utah and Boston, Boston at home here,
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  Speaker 2: Jeremy Swinman's been really, really good, as you can see
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  Speaker 2: here by the numbers up up on the stone Boston
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  Speaker 2: Boston line one pretty expensive in general overall from a
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  Speaker 2: matchup standpoint here, both these teams fair fairly solid defensively
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  Speaker 2: over the last ten games. Respective home road splits from
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  Speaker 2: from what I'm looking at here, but in terms of
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  Speaker 2: expected goals numbers and things like that, Boston is thirty
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  Speaker 2: second in the league actually over the last ten home
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  Speaker 2: games in terms of expected goals against.
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  Speaker 1: Not a game that I love too much.
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  Speaker 2: From a DFS perspective here, I'm not really going to
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  Speaker 2: pick up much ownership here. What do you what do
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  Speaker 2: you see from a Boston Utah standpoint in terms of
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  Speaker 2: the slate here.
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  Speaker 3: So first of all, the the Utah goalies not confirmed yet.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah it's uh vanscheck is projected, but yeah it's
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  Speaker 2: not confirmed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to you gotta make sure. Everybody's got
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  Speaker 3: to make sure they double check these things. And that's
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  Speaker 3: that's I always have to double I always said, I
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  Speaker 3: honestly just go to your discord with like fifteen minutes
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  Speaker 3: to post, just to make sure that that that my
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  Speaker 3: guys are the same. So a couple of things. First
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  Speaker 3: of all, what what this is? Gonna probably go over
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  Speaker 3: because I have all these questions? So what am I
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  Speaker 3: looking at here? So the Stone for those of you
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  Speaker 3: who have not been watching this for the first time,
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  Speaker 3: like what am I looking at?
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  Speaker 4: Like?
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  Speaker 3: What is what does this like breakdown look like? Why
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  Speaker 3: don't you give me like a little tour of what
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  Speaker 3: this is here? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: So the Stone, So we have the here.
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  Speaker 2: I'll just showcase real quick kind of the tools that
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  Speaker 2: we have over at Shipping Nation here for everyone kind
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  Speaker 2: of tuned in because NHL, when you first open it up,
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  Speaker 2: right and you start clicking these guys name, right, there's
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  Speaker 2: a million players because every team has four lines. Right,
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  Speaker 2: there's three players on the line, plus three defensive lines
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  Speaker 2: right with two players, so there's a lot of players
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  Speaker 2: per team. Basically, the Stone it kind of takes their starters,
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  Speaker 2: the starting lineups, gives them their even strength line, which
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  Speaker 2: is who they're going to skate with full strength five
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  Speaker 2: to five right, and then the power play line shows
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  Speaker 2: who's on the power play lines for everyone out there
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  Speaker 2: and kind of lays it out. And then these are
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  Speaker 2: their season numbers, season statistics. How much time on the
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  Speaker 2: ice are the averaging per game? Right, so Nick roughly
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  Speaker 2: nineteen to twenty minutes. He's averaging nineteen point twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: You see there, he's averaging two point three shots on
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  Speaker 2: goal per game, goals per game, he's averaging point three
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  Speaker 2: to six assist, about a half of assist per game.
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  Speaker 1: And then the projection.
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  Speaker 2: Ownership for both sides is over on the right hand
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  Speaker 2: side and then down on the bottom same thing goalie metrics,
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  Speaker 2: and these are all respective to home road split.
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  Speaker 1: So the teams on.
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  Speaker 2: The left are these are all numbers reflective of their
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  Speaker 2: stats for the away the away games on the season,
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  Speaker 2: and then same thing on the right for home split.
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  Speaker 3: Does the Stone have stack rankings here or just these players.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, so we do. The Stone doesn't have the stack
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: rankings here, but we do have right over there yep, yep,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: so stack rankings on NHL, we do have the Stone,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: which you just saw. Their slate plan is kind of
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: just the notes the core plays from myself. The stack
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: rankings for FANDU and DraftKings here sorted by and you
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: can again and filter it by ownership stack score, which
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: is based on the proprietary metric that kind of takes
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: into account their projection, their ownership and kind of basically
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: gives you a summary right of what the quote unquote
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: best stacks overall are. And then my favorite tool is
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: the matchup sheet here, and this is something that I
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: had created years ago. Basically, this shows all the team's
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: metrics home road respective. So the bottom team here, like
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: the Bruins. You see these are all their last ten
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: home games, so I filter to their last ten games
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: for home, their goals for that they're averaging as a team,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: they're expected goals for, expected goals against. So it really
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: how you read this chart is diagonal right from a
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: matchup perspective, So for example, right, that's where I was
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: talking about expected goals against over the last ten home
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: games for the Bruins, expected goals against on average, they're
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: giving up three point seven expected goals, whereas their actual
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: goals that they have given up is roughly two and
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: a half on average when you take a ten game
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: rolling average there. So this is really kind of where
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: I just find the matchups and find the teams on
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: paper that quote unquote have the best projected matchups, and
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: then you go over to the stone and then you
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: can see the individuals players who's producing things like that
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: is kind of the synopsis.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: The reason why, the reason why I ask you like
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: what all this is is again for those of you
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: who don't know me, and I've I've made like the
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: majority of the money in my life basically figuring out
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: who to listen to on stuff that I don't know
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: as much about as they do, Okay, from the stock
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: market everything else that I do. And I'm really really
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: good at this at that skill. And one of the
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: things I like to do is is see how much
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: in depth a person goes into the into the nuts
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: and bolts, and then when I I can kind of
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: justify that, then I don't even worry about the nuts
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: and bolts. Then I just go on to the end,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: the end recommendation, you know what I mean. But to
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: see like all of this stuff that you're that you know,
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: and that's going into this, into all these calculations whatever,
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: like it just shows, I mean, how what kind of
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: value added there is. So for me, like you could
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: go straight to like the stack, you know what I mean,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: the stack scorers or whatever and just know that that
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: there's like some backbone to that. So so for me,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: like if this is your first time, everybod's first time
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: looking at Chip Nation Hockey, I mean I'm already freaking
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: sold at least that there's at least a fundamental base
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: for like all this stuff. Like for me, like I
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: have my own thing. I went my reprojections, and then
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I have my own stack scores similarly, and then I
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: just kind of fire kind of fire it into the
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: sabers and usually and do what I can do what
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: I do, like so to get back to the actual game,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: like Utah Boston, like I rate stacks like three ways.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: One is just by raw points, one is just by
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: points per dollar, and one is just by this kind
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: of like sneaky like you said, everyone's got their sneaky
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: little metric, So I have like my sneaky sneaky little metric,
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: my modified stack score, and I don't have Utah or
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Boston like even sniffing the top in any of them.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: So for me, like it handbled stuff, I would say,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: just just ignore it. If I get to it in
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: like one point fifty, Max is just gonna be by
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: accident because Saberson is in a bad mood and wants
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: to give me a really low on stack or whatever.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: But uh, as far as like my metrics, my numbers go,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I don't like anything from this game. And with respect
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: to the goalies, I don't know what are your thoughts
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: on goalies. I always figured goalies in hockey we're kind
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: of like goalies in soccer. You don't really I don't
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: really care like who I get. I want to I
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: want to like a like a low a low price
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: goalie that that that fits the rest of the lineup,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: I guess because there's so much variance. I mean, you're
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: you're depending on the other teams shooting against you and whatever.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: It's so I don't really have like big goalie takes
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: like pretty much.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Ever, Yeah, the only really I mean typically in kind
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: of synopsis, Usually I'm spending down at goalie. And the
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: reason I'm spending down is because what it does for
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: your overall build. It allows me to flip the build.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Most people punt and spend down at defense, and the
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: high end defenders actually have the ability to separate pretty
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: big around at the position from from what I've seen,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: So usually I'm bending down at goalie, and kind of
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: my goalie goalie takes at least Again, goalie is the
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: most variant position in the sport, right You, Hockey in general,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: you can see minus three hundred minus two to fifty
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: minus four hundred favorites lose at any given night, right
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: probably more so than any other sport, just because of
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: the way if they give up a bunch of penalties
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: that game, right, they're shorthanded a bunch. Really, what I
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: want from a goalie is a goalie that's going to
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: see a lot of shot volume. And that's where I
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: go back to the matchup sheet here and you can
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: see so like, I'm probably not clicking the Utah goalie
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: at all. The reason I'm not going to do that
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: is the shots for phone call here. One second, the
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: reason for that is, if you take a look at here,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Boston at home is averaging twenty three shots on that
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: So what does that mean.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: That means if they score one or two goals, three.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Goals, whatever, it's probably going to be a pretty bad
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: goalie score from your goalie. The reason being is the
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: way the goalie scoring works and the bonuses on DraftKings. Yeah,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: if you're you're if your goalie can get to that
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: thirty five save bonus, which the only way doing.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: That is to see a lot of shot volumes.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: So that's really the main metric that I look at
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: when I'm picking goalies and kind of distract deciding goalies
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: here is looking.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: At the teams that have an outside chance to win.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: So I think, perfect example here, Boston allows a ton
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: of shots on goal per game, right you see this
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: right here, thirty one and a half shots on goal.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Per game on average at home.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Utah shoots a decent amount right there, and Vegas has
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: it as a pick them. And then I go back
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: to the stone here and see Jeremy Swayman seventy eight
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: hundred decent price kind of in that mid tier has
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: been really good on the year. Vegas has to pick them,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: he has an outside chance to get the win, which
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: is extra points as well. So that's kind of my
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: goalie thought process is I really don't even care who
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: the goalie is. If he's going to see a lot
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: of shot volume, I have interested in playing him because
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: ideally you can see goalies get there even in a loss.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you see a goalie see forty plus shots,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: which happens pretty frequently throughout the year, those goalies, even
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: if they give up three goals, right, they're gonna get
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: there because of the bonuses and all the saves, right.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Whereas you could see a high priced goalie see twenty shots,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: twenty one shots and get the win. But he could
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: get out scored by a goalie that's gonna see forty
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: plus shots and maybe gives up a goal and somehow
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: gets to win.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Things like that. So that's kind of my thought process there.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: But in terms of the Utah Boston game in general,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: it's probably pretty much Swayman's my favorite play from this game.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not really too interested in either side of this game,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: just like you when I wrote it up from a
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: matchup standpoint, I just think Boston's pretty expensive and in general,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: like other spots more more so on the.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Slate takes us to the next one here.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Chicago one of the worst teams in the league in general,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: and they lost Connor Bdard, their best player overall.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's He's a beast.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: So what I would say is that thrust Frank Nazzar
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: here into probably a ton of ice time in general.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: He already played a lot and he's gonna have to
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: play a ton in general.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Just with Baard.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: I'm still on the IL Toronto pretty heavy favorites here
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: at home. Spencer Night, solid goalie in general. This is
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: a game that Toronto kind of was down my list
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: a little bit here just because they're expensive and they
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: have kind of struggled as of late in general. But
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: what do you see here in Toronto in Chicago? Usually
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: you want to streamline teams against Chicago. I'm not super
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: enthused here. It is a five and a half total
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: in this one as well. Toronto at home, they just
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: haven't looked great. I mean they've they've looked pretty bad
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: offensively over the last ten They're sitting in in bottom
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: ten in the NHL right now in terms of offensive
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: production over the last ten home games.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: So what do you see here.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: When you're you know, when you when you eventually you're
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: gonna have a kid that goes to applies to college.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: I mean they look at different types of schools like
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: small schools, big schools or whatever, and people that like
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: go to these big schools like Michigan, Wisconsin or whatever.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: But what they always say is that before you get intimidated,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: you have to try to find a way to make
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: a big a big school seem small, you know, and
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: and and that's why I think sometimes these big slates
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: in like either hockey or football or whatever is try
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: to make a big slate smaller by just just ignoring
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: some of these games. And like, to me, like I'm
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: very very greedy when it comes to that, Like Toronto,
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: I don't have them ranked like particularly high in any
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: of my metrics. Maybe have my fourth or fifth from
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: raw points, but raw points doesn't really do much for
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: you when you can't afford them. So for me, I
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: don't have either of these teams putting up anything anywhere
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: near playable in my stacks, so I just assume just
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: kind of move on.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's where I agree, actually, And to be honest,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: if I if I picked a side, I would probably
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: mess around with Chicago line one, just at the salaries
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: because Toronto's actually if you go back over to here,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: to the matchup sheet, just kind of talking through this
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: a little bit. Not going to do this with every game,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: but just for the people to kind of get in
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: an idea here. If you look at Toronto's numbers against right,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: they're averaging three goals giving up per game over the
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: last ten home games.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Their expected goals match it. Right, They're actually fourth worst.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: In the league at twenty eighth this overall rank, So
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: the numbers on the bottom are their rank. The overall rank.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: There's thirty two NHL teams, so obviously the lower the number,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: the worst it did, or the higher than the number,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: excuse me, the worst they rank.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: And you look at the.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Salaries on Chicago, and I think Chicago could be a
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: solid pivot off of other teams that we're going to
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: talk about, teams like Columbus, teams like the Sharks and
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: the Flames that we're going to talk about later. So
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: if I had interest in this game, it'd definitely be
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: more so on the Chicago side of things over the
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Toronto side. But again, still not a game that I'm
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: super super interested in. Overall, it takes to the next
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: game here Flyers Montreal. I think Jacob Fowler is gonna
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: get the start here tonight for Montreal in general, he's
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: one zero one three point four give goals against average,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: eighty nine percent save percentage. Dan voadar going to be
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: in that for Philly here In terms of this one,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I think Philly power play is a pretty solid matchup,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: at least from a numbers perspective. Here, Montreal gives a
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: lot of penalties, are decent amount of penalties, They don't
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: kill off a ton. They've been very, very bad at
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: home over the last ten row home games, giving up
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: over four goals per game on average. Here, I don't
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: think a ton of ownership is going to go to
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: this Flyers team, and I'm not too worried about ownership
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: in general in terms of NHL. But I think the
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Flyers are fairly decent pivot from some of these chalkier
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: teams that we're going to talk to in similar price points.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: But what do you see here Montreal and Philly?
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean on the numbers, I'm not really seeing
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: too much here. I mean, but again, you know, low
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: ownership is low ownership. I'm not really seeing too much
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: of that. But again, I'm just trying to add where
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: I can add here. And one of the things that
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: I wanted to add is that when I was listening
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: to you talk about the uh the Boston team for example,
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: and this is the thing I think about content. You know,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: there are a lot of people that are good at content,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: but like people, the users and the people that are absorbing,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: I need to know how to really like make use
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: of it. So like, for example, I mean I was
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: looking at my my my stack rankings or whatever, and
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: I actually had had Boston as like a decent not
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: not like you know, superstack, but like kind of like
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: a value stack. But when you I was hearing you
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: talking about some of their their their their shortfalls with
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: their you know, they don't create too many chances or whatever.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: It is like these are the things that that I'm
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: not gonna say that I'm gonna completely not play Boston
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: because of it. But once I run my stuff, if
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: let's say that I'm getting too much Boston in my opinion,
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: that I'll remember, you know what you said or you
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: know about that, and maybe pair them back just a
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: little bit so like, like you said what you just
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: said about the Flyers, If I run my Sabers some
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: stuff and I get, like, you know, twenty percent Flyers,
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: sometimes I might say, WHOA, I wouldn't want that, But
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: because in the back of my head there's some at
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: least fundamental support for it that that I would kind
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: of live with it. But my numbers don't really get
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: me these teams. But but that's my input on that.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, appreciate you you adding that there there is
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: some injuries to the blue line for Montreal, so some
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: of these defenders like Hudson Dobson are probably gonna have
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: to play a little bit more minutes than they already do.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: But I'm not giving too much of a boost there.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I think the Flyers are pretty.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Sneaky overall in tournaments in general, so especially at these salaries.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: And again it's mainly from a slate dynamics perspective. We're
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: gonna talk about the late night game, and I think
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: to the point that you set off the top of
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: the show, right, it's usually these late games that are
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: deciding the slate And well that's because one of those
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: is the San Jose Sharks, who don't play a lick
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: of defense, and their games are always up and pace,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: and they're always out on the West Coast, So a
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: lot of those West Coast games are usually nine nine
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: thirty Central time starts.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: So it is definitely a design.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Not to mention Colorado's the late game.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Two, correct, Colorado.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: You got a lot of those West Coast teams that
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: that always play late, so there's there's always a lot
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: of ownership usually waiting in the late tier.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, we'll we'll, we'll get we'll get there.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: But one thing to not remember, so you see only
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: seven o'clock at seven seven, seven thirty eight, then you
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: have this two hour break you know between those lake
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: those late games. And I know it's like something people
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: just don't want to do because it's like annoying, but
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: you really should lake swap in hockey when you have
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: the opportunity. And this is gonna be a nice little
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: slate to to to do that because you're gonna have
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: like teams that are gonna get ownership there and and well,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I guess we'll talk about him when we get there,
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: but but uh, I guess I'll let people let people
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: wait on that one.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, all right, So you want to.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Talk about this away at the Anaheim game.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Yeahh not not yet, not yet. I know you love
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: the dog I love the Ducks as well. They're ownership,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: yeah for sure. So this game right here, the Islanders
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: and the Red Wings, I think this is an important
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: talking point, not because I like this game very much
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: by by any means, but I think the Islanders are
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: gonna pick up some ownership here. The reason being is
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: not only because John Gibson's in not here for the
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Red Wings, but you got a lot of injuries on
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: the Islanders side, which is gonna thrust a lot of
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: these cheap guys like you see right Maxine here is
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: stone minimum price twenty five hundred with power play time.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: He's gonna center the top line right because of all
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: their injuries.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Wait, wait, we talk a little bit more about that.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: So which is the guy from the Islanders?
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: So Maxim right here, I butchered all of these guys'
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: names in Yeah, Maxim t twenty five hundred stone minimum,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: he's up on the top line. I think I want
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: to check on the news here. There is news that
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: we were waiting on from the I'm.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Gonna ask you about that. I was asking about Barzil
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: is here.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Barzil. Let me check on the news. Let
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: me see here one second. Let me just look at Twitter.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: You did miss morning skate. He did miss morning skate.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: And usually if you miss morning skate, it's not a
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: great indication that you're gonna play. So if he's out,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: they're out without a bunch of forwards. So these guys
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: are cheap. They're gonna have to play a ton of minutes.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: But I don't love it. I think they're gonna be
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: very popular with some more expensive as fillers, because I mean,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: look at these price points twenty five hundred, twenty nine
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: thirty five hundred for Jonathan Droyan Top top Line, Top
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: power Play, I mean you, Anthony Duclear Top power Play
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: twenty seven hundred. I mean, this is the team that
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: I think people are gonna run to from a value perspective,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: and then if you go over to the matchups perspective,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: they they do have a pretty solid matchup. But again
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: I struggle. Those guys I think are more productive when
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: they have their power forwards or they're they're declairs right there.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Barzil are not declares.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Barzil their their main skaters right helping them Red Wings
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: do a lot a ton of goals. They're second worst
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: in the league at home ice over the last ten
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: ten games and actual goal numbers. I just struggle here
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: because when you take away a bunch of guys from
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: your team and kind of leave it to everybody else
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: that is typically usually not a creator.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: They're kind of.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: A beneficiary from from the guys that are dishing them
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: to the puck.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: That's where I struggle a little bit.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: And then when you look at the ownership aspect, when
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are going to come
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: here for filler stacks, I do struggle a little bit.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: But projection wise, I think these guys are going to
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: project pretty solid, just because they're down a bunch of
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: guys and they have to fill the.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Fill the ice time with with with skaters in general.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: So what do you see here from this game in particular,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming you're probably gonna get a fair amount of
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: some of these Islanders guys.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what do I know? Because I had had parts
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: projected in so so so I'm gonna We're gonna have
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: to see again. It's only that my projections are like
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: a half hour old. So uh, that's gonna probably gonna
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: determine a lot, you know, because if he's out like
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: then that obviously, like you said, the Maxim is going
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: to pop. So I currently don't have the Islanders is
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: such a good good stack only because my initial projections
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: had bars up in So I guess I'm going to
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: have to wait to see what happens with the rest
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: of it. Now, how does it now? Is there in
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: your experience? Like what what's like good chalk in hockey
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: versus like bad chalk in other words? Like like you know,
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: like in the NBA, you know, you get a three
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: k guy, that's that's gonna be starting at point guard.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: You're not fading it, you know what I mean. But
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: if you have a thirty four hundred dollars kind of
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: guy that low usage, that's gonna be starting it short,
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: it's small forward. Maybe you might like, what what is
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: a guy like Maxine? Like, let's say if it first
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: of all, is he gonna get steamed if in fact
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: barz Ow's out, And if so, how much? And if so,
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: is that too much? Like what what does chalk look
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: like for you in hockey? What what's good chalk versus
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: bad job?
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: So I in ownership in general, and hockey doesn't matter
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: too much to me overall, outside of maybe like a goalie.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: But for example, it in.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Overall.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: So let's see going back to the matchup sheet here
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: for example, in this game, right, the Islanders Red Wings
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: here right in the middle of the screen. I'll bring
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: it up to the top so so everyone can kind
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: of follow along here if I look at this, so
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: I see, right with out all the injuries everything like that,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: this is a ten game rolling average, which isn't the
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: whole season, but it's it's a pretty good sample size
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: of recent form, and obviously the numbers adjust over time. Right,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: But I look at this, they're kind of middle of
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: the pack right now in terms of scoring. From a
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: matchups perspective, I see, yeah, Detroit has been really really
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: bad defensively over the last ten games. But then I
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: look over here and in their expected goals against, it's
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: over a goal less than what they're actually giving up.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: So in instances like that, sometimes it's a lot more
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: extreme than this, right, But in instances where I'm seeing
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: and I'm expecting the team due for some goal regression
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: to come in their favor, For example, the Red wingings. Right,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: That's where I start to pay a little bit more attention.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: And then you add in the factors like, Okay, they're
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: down a bunch of guys, they're down a bunch of players.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: What does that do for their defense? Which you see
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: right here. They've been very, very good defensively, but those
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: forwards play really really good defense themselves, right, So in
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: this game, I'm actually more interested in the Detroit side
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: of this game than the Islander side because I think
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: those forwards hurt them a lot more defensively.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: And Detroit's been solid on home ice, right.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Expected goals is up there, matches with their actual goal number.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: You look at the power play match up here, their
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: top ten power play on home ice. So that's kind
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: of how I look at it. But from an ownership
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: standpoint in general, it's not. I'm not going to look
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: at guy and say, oh, he's twenty percent, I can't
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: play him. Because in hockey, as you know right, roster construction,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: there's so many ways to get different playing two defenders
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: from the same team, overstacking, like we talked about five
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: man stacks, things like that. So ownership doesn't matter too much.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: But if I can poke some holes in it and
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: then have my I know hockey takes side of it.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: That that's where I get a little bit more concerned.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: And obviously that's all reflected in the context when when does.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: That the injury report usually come in? When when are
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: we going to know about the bars out.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: The Usually when they take pregame skates, so it'll be
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: probably about thirty minutes before before lock, but usually almost
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of the time. If they miss morning skates,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: it's a good inclination that they're not going to play.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: But again, we'll we'll update and once they take warm
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: up for pregame warm ups, that's.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Really when we When did you post that in the discord?
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, next game here, Rangers Vancouver.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: This is a game that you talked about, right, simple
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: simple taking the slate down a little bit. I think
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: the Rangers are solid enough to at least take a
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: look at. The reason being is Vancouver lost Quinn Hughes,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: which is probably one of the best defenders in the
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: league in general, so that's gonna hurt their defensive numbers.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: And they were already not great defensively, one of the
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: worst teams defensively before he was traded to Minnesota, and
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: the Rangers are pretty cheap in general. They just haven't
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: looked great in terms of offense. I think mikasavantajead is
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: also going to be out again here, which does hurt
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: their overall production. But I think you could pick some
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: some cheap fillers, a guy like Alexis Lafernir.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I think is a is a decent play.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: That top line in general is pretty cheap, but they're
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: getting a decent amount of ownership in general as well.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: And this is a five and a half total one
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: that I don't have a ton of interest in. I
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: think the Rangers are fine playable wise, but it's not
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: one that that I love.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: What do you see here? Yeah, a pass too perfect?
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Mika is in, so that does does help them. I
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: think that also inflated their ownership. They were already projected
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: to be fairly popular there. I just think Demko is
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: a really good goalie in general, He's very talented. He
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: just is stuck on a crappy team that the franchise
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: has just been the mass over the last couple of
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: seasons in general, And then they traded their best defender
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: in front of him away, So you could say, a
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: guy like Philip Ronek at thirty four hundred, he's gonna
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: have to play more. And he played a ton of
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: minutes of the first game without Quinn Hughes there, so
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: he's gonna see a lot of minutes.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: But uh yeah, Rangers, they're solid.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: I just I like these other games that we're gonna
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: talk about, including this next one that I know we're
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: gonna talk about a lot here Anaheim and Columbus. Columbus
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: is gonna be probably the chalkiest team overall on the slate.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Anaheim is on a back to back. They did play
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: last night, now they're heading in to Columbus. Back to
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: back with travel is never a great thing overall from
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: a team. And Lucas Dostal, one of the best goalies
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: in the league, started last.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Night for Anaheim. So I think we're gonna get Huso
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: right tonight. Yeah, Uso, who he's not good by.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: I think he's like almost a full goal against worse
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: than than Lucas Dostal over the season numbers. So I
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: think this is obviously a really really good matchup in
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: general for Columbus.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: That's why you're gonna see the ownership. You're gonna see there.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: What do you what do you? What's your interest here?
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: I know Columbus is probably pretty high in your list overall,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: just from a projection standpoint in the matchup, but what
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: do you see here?
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah? No, they are before before you get into that
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: two Anaheim guys have questionable do you do you know
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: anything about these two defenders like Nitsu something or rather
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: than Tellison. I'm not sure if they're playing there. They're
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: stupid twenty six hundred dollars defenders. But I had I
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: had him fifty percent whether they were gonna play or not.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: So I have to make sure the night.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is so we'll have this before Locke
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: again with the line rushes, because it's part of the
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: first first set of games.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I can look and see if they skated this morning.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's it's not the biggest deal, you know,
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: but but I do like to get that right and yeah,
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: so okay, So so Columbus looks to be one of
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: the top three stacks. No matter how I rate these metrics,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: they if they look good from a value perspective, they
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: look good from a modified perspective. The sneaky you know,
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: sneaky stacks score perspective whenever. And it's just a question
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: to me if whether you're willing to eat the ownership,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: because I mean, listen what I see, everybody sees, and
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: they're gonna be really popular, and how what really popular means?
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I imagine that again, like a lot
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: of guys are gonna run Saber sim and maybe that'll
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: keep ownership down a little bit, you know, because maybe
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: maybe people try to get at off the board. But
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: I I like them a lot. I'll probably get market
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: weight of them. And that's this is one of the
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: reason why I like to use sabers him to make
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: my pills. I'm playing a bunch of lineups tonight with
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: all the different MMME stuff, and so I don't know
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: how much I'm gonna end up really getting of them,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: Like I wondn't get like thirty forty percent or anything
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: like that. But in like single entry, you know, if
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: I were handbuilding, I mean, it's be between them and
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: like maybe two or three other teams as as my
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: top overall that that I mean that that's that's I
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: guess we're gonna leave it.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is a really good uh overstack.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Spot right for for sure. This is probably a team
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: just with their the ownership that they're going to command.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: I think going five skaters here is probably my preferred
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: route to play Columbus here tonight. And that's the I mean,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: there's nothing really bad to say about him. Their prices
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: are fair. Kurim Marchenko is uh an incredible player in general.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Sixty one hundred is just a bad price point for him.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: If Lucas Dosta wasn't in that, I'd have a lot
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: more concern with Columbus just because he's a much better
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: goalie in general.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: So I can really can't poke holes in them.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: They're one of the probably overall one of my favorite
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: teams on the slate in general, and it's just when
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: you play them, you're gonna have to play them differently
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: than the field, and I think overstacking is one of
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: the ways to do that. And I would assume once
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: you kind of look at your stuff sheets, that you're
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: probably gonna get a lot of six man and five
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: man stacks of Columbus because the sims are gonna recognize
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: that from an ownership standpoint and take it to it.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: Well, I'll let you I'll let you know I'm building
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I'll let you know perfect perfect on the duck side
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: of things, Jack Greeves and that he's he's pretty solid.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Anaheim on a back to back I don't love it,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: to be honest, Anaheim's shuffled their lines all around. So
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: from a power play correlation standpoint, it's kind of all
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: over the board, so you really don't know what you're
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: getting from a from a correlation standpoint. So it's definitely
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Columbus for past for me in this game overall. But
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: let's jump to the next game, which this is probably
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: one of my favorite spots and tournaments overall. I'm seeing
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: super low ownership on this team and this is a
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: double revenge factor here. Tristan Jarry Stewart Skinner mid season trade,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Edmonton ship Skinner to Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh ships Jarry to Edmonton here,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: and now it's now they're playing each other. Tristan Jarry
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: going back to Pittsburgh here with an Edmonton jersey on.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: I really really, really really like Pittsburgh here. They're not
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: favored in this game. This is a dog spot, and
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: because they're not favored in their implied team total is
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: lower than Edmonton.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: I think a lot more ownership is going to go
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: to the Edmonton side.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: And obviously they have the big guys right Connor McDavid,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: him and NuGen Hopkins, Leon Bouchard, at at at de Man.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: They have a ton of star power. But I really
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: like Pittsburgh in this game. From a matchup perspective, I
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: think it's really good. I think the goalies are equal.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: I don't think either one one has a leg up
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: on the other. Personally, I think they're pretty similar. I
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: really didn't understand the trade overall from an Edmonton standpoint,
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: because they also gave up Kulak from their blue line.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: I think Pittsburgh, especially in line one here, is very
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: very interesting to me. They're one of my favorite stacks
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: on the entire slates. But what do you see here
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Edmonton and Pittsburgh, You know, I love.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: I definitely feels a little a little there narrative streaty
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: to me, but I I'm down with it, especially considering
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: that I think Edmonton is probably gonna get ownership, like
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: you said, and the one good way to get a
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: little leverage is to just play the other side. So
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: I my numbers don't really support it, but I mean again,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: maybe maybe Sabersim will will do me a favor and
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: give me some of this. I'm kind of I'm always
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: I'm always down for a little bit of that. I
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: would like to say that I can't imagine like a
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: guy going but back to another hockey team when they
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: only get like eighteen minutes a game is going to
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: make that much of a difference. But but you but
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: you know, but you know better than me, So I'm
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: not really getting to it. But now, like you said, now,
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: if if I get fifteen, I am not going to
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: be the slightest bit upset with it. And I'll root
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: with you.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not really from the revenge factor. I mean,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: it's just the goalie aspect. I don't it wasn't really Yeah,
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: it wasn't really cool act. I'm just I look at
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: the matchups here and you see up on the screen right,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh been pretty solid. But the expected goals metrics is
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: really what I pay attention to because expected goals I
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: don't think a lot of people look at and that's
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: obviously what the underlying metrics based on shots on goal,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: unblocked shot attempts. Everything goes into those metrics to come
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: up with these numbers, and when I see a team
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: that's averaging two point eight but is expected for almost
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: a full goal higher over their last ten games. And
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: then I also see Edmonton at second worst on the
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: road right in terms of expected goal numbers as well.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: And then you have the also added in factor that hey,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: now we.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Get to play against Christian Jarry are our old guy, right,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Little things like that I tend to pay at ten too.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: And both of these power players are good units as well.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: So that's kind of why I'm leaning into to Pittsburgh
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: here is from the expected goals metrics matchup and just
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: the price points I think are pretty fair. Their ownership
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: is gonna be super low, and their pivots off of
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: teams like Colorado, teams like Toronto, teams like Edmonton, that
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: that I think more people are gonna play those compared
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh squad here.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: So that's kind of the reasoning for that that that
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at overall sounds good to me. Let's jump
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: to the next game here.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Now we're jumping into the eight pm Central time nine
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: pm Eastern lock time, so the the later window, right,
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: we got this kind of game standalone, and then You've
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: got a full two hours before those last two games,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: which is definitely gonna be a big, pretty big talking
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: point in terms of late swap just overall. I know
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: you'll I'll let you talk about that because I know
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: you late swap almost every chance that that you can get,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: which I don't think a lot of the field does
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: in general, and I think that's probably why it's definitely helped,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: I'm sure your success, which you've been having a hell
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: of a NHL season in general. So this game, Wild Capitals,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: I have some interest here in the Wild power play.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: If I'm playing anything in this game, it's the Wild
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: power play. And there's a couple of reasons why. Charlie
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Lindgren's in net. He's a lot worse overall than Logan Thompson.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: If Logan Thompson was in NET here, I'd be well
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: underweight and probably not like this game much at all.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: But that and the addition to Quinn Hughes, who's just
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: such a lethal player, especially on the top power play
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: on an already good power play unit. The Wild already
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: on home ice sits sixth best in the NHL. And
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: then you look at the Capitol's penalty kill on the
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: road twenty fifth in the league seventy five percent, and
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Minnesota drop draws the third and mouse third most power
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: play opportunities per game. On home ice, Capitals give up
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: the sixth most power play opportunities. It's a really really
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: good power play match up here, and this is a
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: spot where I'm playing the power play stack for Minnesota.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: They're expensive, but I put them right there with Pittsburgh.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: It's kind of my spind up lines for the power
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: play in particular.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Especially on home ice here.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: And then brock Favor, I think is going to have
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: to play a ton of ice time as well with
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: all the injuries that Minnesota has to their blue line.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: But what do you see here at Capitals and Wild.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I have this again, this this stack score
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: of my own here that that kind of takes into
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: account not only upside whatever it is, but also a
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: little bit of leverage and ownership. And it's like the
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: one thing I've never really like published or whatever to
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: have it for baseball and for hockey. And I'll just
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: kind of like throw it out there. I mean, it's
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: seems like a weird team to have, but but I'm
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: in agreement with you. Well, my numbers are in agreement
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: with you is that I have Minnesota actually as like
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: the top overall like stack, including leverage, like the whole slate. Honestly,
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: so I'm kind of happy to hear that you have
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: a little bit of a little bit of love for it.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, Matt Boldie, Quinn Hughes, Kaprasov, Joel, Eric Sinak,
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: like that whole crew. Maybe it's a little expensive, which
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: is what what Maybe people aren't gonna play or whatever,
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: but I like that a lot.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: And then what I like too is you got Tara Senko,
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: who's a guy that makes it cheaper, right, and you
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: can do a full five man power play stack here,
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: which I think most people are going to go in
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: and stack three guys they're going to play Eric Sinak,
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Caprizov and Boldie. I think adding in Quinn Hughes, who's
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: also expensive, and then Tarasenko in finding some of those
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: cheap fillers, I think is a really really interesting way
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: to approach this. And actually, if naturally I know Sabersim
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: does this a lot too, is when you're overstacking a team,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: going with the goalie as well, and goose Gus Buss
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: is what I call him.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: I think he's a really good goalie. In general.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Seventy five hundred is a nice price point. Going back
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: to the matchup sheet, looking at the capitols, they take
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: the ninth most shots on that as well, So he's
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: gonna see value and anytime, he's gonna see volume. And
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: I like the offense. I have a lot of interest,
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: so I love the wild here tonight. In general, capitals,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: I don't have a ton of interest in overall. I
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: think there's a lot better teams in general. My interest
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: is definitely on Minnesota in this book.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: So here we go.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: We got the two late night Hammers, we got the
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Chalkies game on the slate coming up next.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: I mean both sides of this game.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: You got a battle two turns here the Flames and
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: the Sharks. This is definitely gonna be a very very
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: popular game, probably the most popular game in the slate
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: by far, because of these price points. I don't really
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: get the Sharks love. To be honest, Dustin Wolf is
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: a really really good goalie. He's been playing really really
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: well as of late. He's up there as one of
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: the hottest goal he's in the league. Over his last
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: seven starts. With a below a two goal against average.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Last time these two played back in November, it was
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: a two zero game in flavor in favor of the Flames,
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: which I don't put too much into that, but when
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: a team's gonna pick up a ton of ownership like
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: the Sharks, they I mean, the Sharks could come in
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: as the highest on team on the slate because of
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: the matchup, and I just think it's it's a little
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: I think I can poke holes in it. Personally, I
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: like the Flame side more and I think going to
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: the top line for the Flames is going to be
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: fairly contrarian. But really, the only guy that's getting a
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: lot of ownership from the Flames is Cadre, so I'm
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: not really too worried about it. It's still Sharks. Askarov
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: has been been solid, but he's still allowing over three
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: goals per game. I think the Flames side is my
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: definitely my preference. I'll probably be well in a way
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: to the Sharks in this one. But what do you
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: see here? This is definitely the most important.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: Do you have Michael Backland in or not for Calgary?
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Let me take a look. I don't let me, let
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: me see what you talk about it, I'll pull it up.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: So San Jose is going to project to be the
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: best play aside from from Columbus, and they have a
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: lot going for it in that respect. They also what
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: I what I don't mind about playing a bunch of
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: San Jose is that you could you could screw around later,
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: all right. I happened to think that Seattle. I hate
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: to like puff but two games at the same time,
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: but I think Seattle is a very legitimate pivot. It's
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: the same, same time, it's the same prices or whatever
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: it is. So I wouldn't mind playing San Jose with
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: the idea that if that, if I needed to, I
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: could kind of screw around. But I certainly like your
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: idea of just playing Calgary, you know what I mean.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: I think that that makes a lot of sense. I
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: just mentioned I have Backland at thirty seven hundred at
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: Center as as I'm not sure.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Whether he's.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: So he obviously to me like shows up as well.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: So I think the game itself is is very you know,
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: very viable, and I like your idea of playing Calgary.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna start off the slate with a bunch
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: of San Jose, but who knows what ends up happening,
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: you know, Like I see that's the thing about what
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: school met late swapping with sabers him, you get all
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: these oldest ownership come in at all these seven o'clock games,
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: and you get to get a little bit of a
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: peak to see how Columbus is doing, for example, and
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: then you could, like you could, you could, you could
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: pivot from your San Jose's to Minnesota if you want,
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: you know, or or to Calgary or go you know wherever.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: So I am gonna probably start off with a decent
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: amount of them, but by the end of the day,
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: who knows.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: I think Dustin Wolf is a really good play too,
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: because it kind of doubles down on it, and he's
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: a good goalie in general. It's not like he's some
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: trash can I mean season numbers in general. On the road,
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: he's worse on the road, which usually most goalies are
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: because you can't dictate the line matches in general.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: So but overall he's been playing really well as of late.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: It's gonna leverage the Shark's ownership and he's cheap and
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: he'll see see some volume. So I think Dustin Wolf
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: is a is a pretty solid goalie goalie option on
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: the slate too. Overall takes to the next last game
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: in the slate here Colorado cracking. Colorado biggest favorites on
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: the slates.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: I think. I think Colorado.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: Too here is is pretty sneaky with Brock, Nelson, Landeskog,
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: and Nichuskin. Colorado did shuffle around all of their power plays,
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: so the the top line I think only has McKinnon
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: on the top power play from what I'm seeing, I
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: know they had shifted around all of their kind of
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: lines in general. But what do you see here in
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: terms of this game? Colorado expensive, best team in the league, cracking,
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: fairly solid hockey team.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Joey Decord much better goalie in my opinion than than Grubauer.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: But what do you see here? Late night hammer.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: Yep, Colorado. If you got the money, you could play them.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: Uh and you know you get your slate's never over
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: Colorado at the ten o'clock game.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: So I don't mind that I happen. I'm gonna go
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: back to this. I happen to like Seattle as as
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: as as a pivot off of all this other stuff.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: So I do like that I have them as one
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: of my top like cheap o values or whatever it is.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: And I'll just try to well butchering these names like
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: Ryan lnd Grein, Freddy Gadreau, Capo CaCO Chandler Stevenson. Maybe
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: so I actually do like some of these, some of
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: these Seattle guys, these guys, these guys have been good
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: to me as well, by the way, over the years.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Stevenson's are always a great value play.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, top power play plays over twenty minutes. He's
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: thirty one hundred. You got Capel Coco, He's a solid
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: skater himself. He's gonna see around thirteen to fifteen minutes.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Same thing with Freddie Gaudreau. And those are direct pivots
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: right there off the Islanders guys who I think are
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: much better plays in general. And yeah, Colorado's great, but
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: I mean they're not a stone wall defensively by any
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: means in general. So I think that's that's really good
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: and I think we broke it down pretty solid here
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: sheets overall.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Any any closing remarks here for the people in general.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I could go on and on, but
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you're playing hockey for the first time,
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: I would not mess with anything, you know what I mean.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: I would use the saber sim excuse me, or the
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: or the ship in nation projections, whatever you think, you know,
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: and I wouldn't average them. I would I would just
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: pick one and go with it. And I would not
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: if you use saber sim, I would not mess with
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: the contest fields. I would let them, let it do
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: its stay and and just kinda kind of really be stingy.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: That's my opinion on the stack situation. You know, Uh,
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: I would not get involved in any of this nonsense
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: unless you're I mean, I'm not that good to be
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: able to play these four to one one one one
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: ones and to know whatever, Just just pick your favorite
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: stacks and just blast and if they, like you said,
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: if the team gets six goals, you're probably in business,
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: you know. So, uh that's my opinion. And again just
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: you're in You guys are in good hands with with
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: Nids here, with all that he knows about hockey, and
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: between that and and and the stone and then if
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: you use saber sim to help build I mean, I
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: think hockey is a really really good sport for DFS purposes,
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: and yeah, you can make money at it, but it's also,
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, in my opinion, it's a very very fun sweat.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Most of the time in hockey you're kind of anti sweating,
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: which is kind of cool. Like, oh my god, I
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: need like this guy not been do any for six
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: minutes and you're sitting there just just praying that the
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: guy doesn't pulled the goalie and stuff like that. But
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: I really enjoy it and I'm continuing to do well
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: at it.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: No, I couldn't eckle thatddy more. We have all the tools.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: We showcased a lot of them here. I appreciate everyone
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• 58:37
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• 58:39
  Speaker 2: I'll be in the discord monitoring because we do have
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: some news to monitor for those first couple of games
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: that are locking at the six o'clock in about an
• 58:46
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• 58:50
  Speaker 2: come out about twenty to fifteen to twenty minutes ahead
• 58:53
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• 58:56
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• 59:02
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• 59:05
  Speaker 2: appreciate you jumping on here, and uh, maybe we'll come
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• 59:21
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• 59:30
  Speaker 2: This was a lot of fun and I think the
• 59:31
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• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Goodluck tonight in those contests. Hope to see uh those
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