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What do you do when you notice an error in group chat you were mistakenly added to?? · Anele and the Club on 947

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  Speaker 1: Wake up with a bang hey wake up and the
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  Speaker 1: club on 947.
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  Speaker 2: Someone slid into my dms and i feel like there's
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  Speaker 2: a there's an urgency to this so we're gonna have
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  Speaker 2: to solve this quickly for her uh her name has
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  Speaker 2: been changed because it's quite a sensitive issue this is
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  Speaker 2: a sensitive although she didn't ask me to change her
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  Speaker 2: name when she wrote this just by the way but
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  Speaker 2: gay Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We've decided it's sensitive enough to change your name. We
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  Speaker 1: like you guys employed.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, it says, Hi Anel, I've been listening to the
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  Speaker 2: show for years and I really need some advice.
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  Speaker 1: Here goes.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a junior accountant and a company in Santon. Four
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  Speaker 2: months ago, my manager added me to the leadership team's
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  Speaker 2: WhatsApp group by mistake. I never said a word. I
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  Speaker 2: just read about parking bay fight, someone stealing the Woolies
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  Speaker 2: muffins from the boardroom, and a two-week war over whether
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  Speaker 2: we should replace the Ruri coffee with a coffee machine. Then,
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  Speaker 2: on Tuesday, I'm supposed this is last week Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Then on Tuesday night, the CFO posted next year's budget.
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  Speaker 2: I opened it and saw row 47 has been counted twice.
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  Speaker 2: That's a 1.2 million rands mistake. Six managers replied, all saying.
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  Speaker 1: Looks good.
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  Speaker 2: I typed a message.
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  Speaker 1: I deleted it. I typed it again.
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  Speaker 2: Then I hit send. And all I said is, row
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  Speaker 2: 47 is double counted. The group went completely silent. 30
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  Speaker 2: seconds later, my manager called me. I'm scared to tell
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  Speaker 2: you guys what happened next. But before I tell you
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  Speaker 2: what happened, you guys tell me, did I do the
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  Speaker 2: right thing?
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  Speaker 4: You.
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  Speaker 1: Because obviously you've been silently sitting there. Does she say
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  Speaker 1: how long? Must be months.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I'll tell you.
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  Speaker 1: Four months ago. Right, so she's been silently sitting on
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  Speaker 1: the managerial group.
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  Speaker 2: She saved the company 1.2 million.
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  Speaker 4: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 1: She shouldn't have said.
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  Speaker 5: What?
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  Speaker 2: Would you let your company make a mistake for 1.2 million?
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  Speaker 6: It's not my mother's company.
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  Speaker 1: Someone would have caught that, surely. Six managers said it
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  Speaker 1: looks good.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, but you're not supposed to be on the group.
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  Speaker 6: And now the challenge is, Great, you've saved us this money,
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  Speaker 6: but what else were you reading on the group? And
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  Speaker 6: what did you do with said information in the time
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  Speaker 6: that you were on this group, not reporting that you're here,
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  Speaker 6: basically eavesdropping, spying on management?
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  Speaker 2: Guys, none of it mattered.
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  Speaker 1: I've saved you 1.2 million. Mm-mm.
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  Speaker 5: 011-8838-947.
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  Speaker 2: Is that the number? There's just so many numbers flying around. 1.247.
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  Speaker 1: What would you have done?
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  Speaker 2: Has this happened to you before? And now Veronica is
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  Speaker 2: in a pickle.
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  Speaker 7: No, you see, I wouldn't even be in a pickle
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  Speaker 7: because as soon as I got added to a group
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  Speaker 7: that just had managers on it, I'd be like, guys,
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  Speaker 7: I'm out. I don't need another WhatsApp group in my life.
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  Speaker 7: I don't need to be part of more communication. And
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  Speaker 7: I definitely want to be in management.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks.
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  Speaker 2: Cheers. I certainly don't think that she should be given
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  Speaker 2: any warnings or any disciplinary whatever. Especially since she has
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  Speaker 2: just saved the company 1.2 million.
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  Speaker 1: Look, it's not her fault she got added to the group. 100%.
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  Speaker 5: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Frankie, you were saying you would have … You would
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  Speaker 2: message who … You wouldn't message to all on the group. No.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's where she made a pivotal mistake. Like
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  Speaker 1: if you're saying on the group in front of everyone …
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  Speaker 1: Because now also … Six managers I've said looks good. Right?
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  Speaker 1: So now you've embarrassed all of them. Everyone's a fool.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone's a fool there. You're catching it. The CFO posted
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  Speaker 1: this thing. You're calling that out. So you're definitely in
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  Speaker 1: trouble here. If it was me, I would have DM'd
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  Speaker 1: the person who added me originally. Because that's probably your manager.
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  Speaker 7: Now that you mention it, I probably would go straight
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  Speaker 7: to the manager one-on-one. Yes. And say, look, you've made
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  Speaker 7: a mistake. Yes. I'm on this group. Whatever you do
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  Speaker 7: with me on that group, it's fine. But I'm just
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  Speaker 7: giving you a personal heads up.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Why didn't you tell me you were on the group
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  Speaker 6: all along?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 7: Because I was waiting for it to get juicy, Timber Killer.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: 011-8838-947.
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  Speaker 2: Veronica gets added to the ex-co group at her work,
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  Speaker 2: the managerial group. She keeps quiet for four months until
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  Speaker 2: last week. The budget for next year for the company
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  Speaker 2: is approved. Six managers say thumbs up. There's a mistake.
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  Speaker 2: It's a 1.2 million Rand mistake.
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  Speaker 1: On 084-00-00947. Send us a voice note.
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  Speaker 2: What should.
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  Speaker 1: Please, we changed her name.
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  Speaker 2: What should Veronica have done in this situation? She hasn't
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  Speaker 2: told us what's happened, but the manager did call her.
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  Speaker 1: But we want to know.
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  Speaker 2: And even if you're a manager, how would you handle this?
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  Speaker 1: Would you say thank you for saving us?
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  Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying? Is it like a
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  Speaker 2: deception thing? Oh, I know you kept quiet for four months.
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  Speaker 1: It's a deception thing. Let us know. Let's talk.
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  Speaker 4: I say give that girl a raise.
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  Speaker 2: I saved the company. If they ask, Matiamudimo, why are
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  Speaker 2: you on the group? I thought, probably you guys are
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  Speaker 2: aiming me to be a manager someday.
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  Speaker 1: So this was like grooming me.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, I think she did the right thing.
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  Speaker 1: But let's go back a few months.
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  Speaker 7: You can actually see when someone's been added to a group.
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  Speaker 6: The name pops up there on the group. This person's
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  Speaker 6: been added.
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  Speaker 7: So that means that all the managers in that group
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  Speaker 7: don't actually take proper notice of what's happening on.
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  Speaker 1: The group because they didn't even see that.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 7: So I actually think that the managers should be getting
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  Speaker 7: a warning for what they're doing and not taking notice
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  Speaker 7: of what's actually happening on their group. You're hired, ma'am,
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  Speaker 7: whoever you are.
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  Speaker 2: You are hired because you run a tight ship.
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  Speaker 1: You're right. This is no fault of Veronica's. No, it's not.
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  Speaker 1: But her first mistake is, and this is the thing,
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  Speaker 1: the original sin is not saying anything. When you got
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  Speaker 1: added to the group, you knew you didn't belong there
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  Speaker 1: and you kept quiet. That's the first problem. So thank
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  Speaker 1: you very much down the line, yes.
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  Speaker 2: For saving us 1.2 million.
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  Speaker 1: That's fine. And we will give you your flowers for that.
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  Speaker 1: But first, we're going to give you a warning for
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  Speaker 1: the first one. All right.
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  Speaker 2: Ashes to ashes, Zana.
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  Speaker 1: Dust to dust. Deboko, you're in four ways.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning.
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  Speaker 7: Good morning.
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  Speaker 5: Good morning, Anale. Good morning, Deboko. What do you think?
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  Speaker 5: I think she got fired. You think that she's... No,
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  Speaker 5: I think she got fired because... So you've been in
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  Speaker 5: that group for more than four months and you are quiet.
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  Speaker 5: What else have you been seeing and you didn't say anything?
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  Speaker 5: So for me personally, I feel like you are just
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  Speaker 5: supposed to exit the group immediately after you have accidentally
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  Speaker 5: added on the group because even if you are added,
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  Speaker 5: if you go to a company and you go there
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  Speaker 5: and you see that you have been added into a
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  Speaker 5: wrong group, you'll probably ask, why am I being added here?
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  Speaker 5: If they don't answer you, you exit the group. How
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  Speaker 5: many things go missing in companies that we never get
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  Speaker 5: to know until auditors come in and we now find out.
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  Speaker 2: But you don't think it matters that she just saved
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  Speaker 2: the company 1.2 million?
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  Speaker 5: It matters now, but it's none of her business because
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  Speaker 5: she's not in that post. She's not supposed to be
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  Speaker 5: in that group.
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you now that she didn't save. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they would have picked up that issue. You don't know that.
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  Speaker 5: They would have. They would have.
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  Speaker 1: They would have somewhere. They would have picked up that issue.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, companies have gone down for little mistakes like this
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  Speaker 2: because no one picks it.
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  Speaker 1: It happens.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a foreign concept for it to happen. And
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  Speaker 2: it was possibly happening now. But now it's not going
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  Speaker 2: to happen because she flagged it.
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  Speaker 1: I think Veronica is in deep trouble. Gabriela, what do
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  Speaker 1: you think?
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  Speaker 4: Guys, she was not supposed to report at all.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us why.
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  Speaker 4: I've been in a similar situation. I'm in payroll, right?
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  Speaker 4: So I noticed that they've been paying plus minus 10
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  Speaker 4: host employees. So I flagged it with my manager. And
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  Speaker 4: trust and believe me, they made my two weeks a
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  Speaker 4: living hell and I got dismissed.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so how did you get hold of this information?
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  Speaker 4: I was in payroll. So I am more of double
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  Speaker 4: checking as to the employees are working and they have
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  Speaker 4: worked the correct hours and approving the salaries.
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  Speaker 2: So then you picked up a ghost employee. So somebody
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  Speaker 2: was getting paid a salary.
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  Speaker 1: Ten.
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  Speaker 5: Ten of them.
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  Speaker 1: Ten employees.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, which home affairs was this?
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  Speaker 4: It's not even a home office. It is a public
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  Speaker 4: pharmaceutical company that is based not so far in Madrid.
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  Speaker 1: And then, so you flagged this and then... Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And then two weeks, so they made your life hell
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  Speaker 2: for two weeks and then they dismissed you. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because someone was on the take internally and you
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  Speaker 1: raised it. That's what it boils down to, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my word.
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  Speaker 4: I was told that I need to mind my business
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  Speaker 4: and focus on what I'm being employed for.
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, excuse me, I am in payroll.
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  Speaker 4: What do you mean? That is my job.
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  Speaker 2: This is literally my job. I've just flagged that you
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  Speaker 2: are paying 10 salaries that are going nowhere to no one.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: How long ago was this, Gabelo?
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  Speaker 5: Uh, 2023. Oof.
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  Speaker 2: Girl, Karen Morn is going to call you because there
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  Speaker 2: is a story here.
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  Speaker 1: Cut lunch.
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  Speaker 2: Get on it.
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  Speaker 1: This is.
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  Speaker 2: And you say this is publicly listed, hey?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. And was there no internal... I mean, usually these
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  Speaker 1: big companies have like an internal process for you to
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  Speaker 1: report what you think is corruption or whatever. Like a
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  Speaker 1: little whistleblower.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: What I did, I spoke to my manager that, hey, look,
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  Speaker 4: I'm seeing this, but these people are not working here.
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  Speaker 4: And he was like, no, no, just wrap it up.
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  Speaker 4: It's almost the end of the month. Just wrap it up.
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  Speaker 4: We'll do a meeting on Monday. Monday, I get back.
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  Speaker 4: They're like, you're not performing you're putting you on a
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  Speaker 4: performance plan and I'm like okay what the hell is
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  Speaker 4: going on and in the same meeting I asked so
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  Speaker 4: what about the 10 people that we are paying they're
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  Speaker 4: like no let's not focus on that let's focus on
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  Speaker 4: your performance that time a month ago I received an
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  Speaker 4: employee of the year oh.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Kabelo, that's terrible.
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  Speaker 2: Kabelo, thank you so much for this call because this
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  Speaker 2: is the reality. These are the things that happen. These
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  Speaker 2: are the things that South Africans wake up every.
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  Speaker 1: Day and they deal with. Things like this. That's crazy. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but you're good now, eh, Kabelo?
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  Speaker 4: She was just supposed to just keep quiet, not say anything.
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  Speaker 4: Because right now, they want to make her life a
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  Speaker 4: living hell. She must just start looking for another job.
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  Speaker 7: Cheapest.
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  Speaker 1: That's terrible. Veronica, that's the advice.
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  Speaker 3: Yo, guys, I'm always seen as being difficult for telling
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  Speaker 3: people stop sharing important documents with sensitive information via WhatsApp.
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: Send it via email and WhatsApp the group to say,
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: check your email.
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  Speaker 1: Back to making your morning. I love this show.