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Eagles "embarrassing" loss to 49ers, Matt LaFleur & John Harbaugh rumors, ICE shooting in Minnesota | 01.12 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. A wave original.
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  Speaker 2: NFL playoffs are too big.
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  Speaker 1: We have had these wildcard weekends with some blowouts in them,
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  Speaker 1: just absolute terrible action. And gotta say, They gave us
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  Speaker 1: bangers this weekend, right? They gave us no fewer than
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  Speaker 1: four absolute bangers, cliffhangers, nail biters, however you want to
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  Speaker 1: put it. I got to say to you, NFL, well played, baby.
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  Speaker 1: You gave us what we came here for. But as
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  Speaker 1: much as I want to give it up overall to
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, and that's cool. We got to look specifically
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  Speaker 1: at you guys. Nobody better for business than you guys.
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  Speaker 1: And you know who those guys are. Those guys are
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  Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles. They, this, this, Ryan, we've been doing
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  Speaker 1: this all year long where I had to tell myself
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  Speaker 1: we're not going to talk about the Eagles every week, right?
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  Speaker 2: Had long stretches where we didn't.
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  Speaker 1: And it was honestly, because I could talk about the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles every day.
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: Never get tired of it.
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  Speaker 1: Correct.
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  Speaker 4: I can talk. We can talk. Jalen Hurts, Nick Sirianni,
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  Speaker 4: AJ Brown every day. Every Monday. And they gave us
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  Speaker 4: every reason why we want to talk about them every
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  Speaker 4: Monday over the course of the last three hours.
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  Speaker 2: Think about this, man. They got two white dudes out
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  Speaker 2: here covering people.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And that's never the issue.
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  Speaker 4: It didn't come up.
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  Speaker 1: That's one of the bright spots of their whole situation. Like, look, man,
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  Speaker 1: when the white boys play a defensive back and carry
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  Speaker 1: it alone for your team, baby, you guys got to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, got to wonder exactly what's going on here. Look.
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  Speaker 1: They lost this game to the 49ers, and it is
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  Speaker 1: the rare flat-out indefensible loss, right? Like, normally, if teams
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  Speaker 1: are playing at any point in the playoffs with the
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  Speaker 1: exception of that 2-7 game, by and large, it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: this could probably go either way. We talked about this
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  Speaker 1: with the 49ers last week. I don't know anybody that
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  Speaker 1: plays defense for them, right? And then on offense, and
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  Speaker 1: you pointed this out, who the hell are those guys
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  Speaker 1: that Purdy's out here throwing the ball to?
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  Speaker 4: Right, and Kittle goes down with the Achilles. It's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of Christian McCaffrey, and then it's Jawan Jennings.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it is, again, it's a motley crew of
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  Speaker 4: dudes at Shanahan scheming up out there.
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  Speaker 1: That used check guy's still in the league.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and so this was the thing about it for
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles. The 49ers, as presently constructed, should need to
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  Speaker 1: make no mistakes in order to win against a team.
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  Speaker 2: With the hosses that the Eagles have, okay?
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  Speaker 1: Brock Purdy threw two interceptions, and they were bad interceptions, right?
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  Speaker 2: Like, we're not just turning them around.
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  Speaker 1: Those were bad interceptions that he threw. They still beat
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles. Still beat them.
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  Speaker 6: Like....
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  Speaker 1: I have been a Brock Purdy skeptic for a very
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  Speaker 1: long time, okay? He is clearly a starting NFL quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: And what has to really stink for the Eagles is
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  Speaker 1: he was clearly the better quarterback in the game. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't mean simply that he played better than Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Hurts did. You're asking me, which one of them am
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  Speaker 1: I going to take?
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  Speaker 2: At this point, I'm taking Purdy.
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  Speaker 1: And look, man, that imaginary cookout invitation is in peril
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  Speaker 1: for me saying that.
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  Speaker 2: But I ain't already. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: Like like that's this is this is how it looked.
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  Speaker 2: This is how it appeared to be.
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  Speaker 1: You've got what's his name?
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  Speaker 2: Sirianni after A.J.
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  Speaker 1: Brown drops a pass running at him right to go
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  Speaker 1: scream at him and Brown screaming right back. And they
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  Speaker 1: can talk all that. Yeah, well, we still love each other. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: I tell you what my therapist would say about that
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  Speaker 1: kind of love. You did. It's not really what it is.
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  Speaker 1: It was a collective failure, right? Is it the quarterback's fault?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Did A.J. Brown drop some passes right there? Yes, and
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  Speaker 1: that's got to be the worst for him because he
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  Speaker 1: out there mad as hell because Jalen Hurts is not
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  Speaker 1: playing well, and then finally he dials it up right
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  Speaker 1: on your hands on the third down, and the game matters,
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  Speaker 1: and you don't bring it in, right? You had that
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  Speaker 1: one in the first half that you did not bring in.
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  Speaker 1: It was awful. It's everybody's fault in this game that
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles lost it. This is why I say indefensible.
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  Speaker 1: Even without laying Johnson to a couple guys, you down, man.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all had the players. Y'all had it at the crib.
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  Speaker 1: The only way for you to truly lose this game
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  Speaker 1: is by being outcoached.
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  Speaker 4: All right, and let's just go through the second half drives. Punt, punt,
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  Speaker 4: 10 plays, 23 yards, field goal. Punt, field goal. Downs
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  Speaker 4: to end the game.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, and what's Sirianni supposed to be good at? What's
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  Speaker 2: his thing? He's the offense guy.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: This is your offense. And look, if your quarterback isn't
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  Speaker 1: that guy, I'm sorry, but the other team has Brock Purdy.
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  Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: Like, Kyle, by the way, I don't think we've talked
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  Speaker 2: about this nearly enough.
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  Speaker 1: They lost that game in the NFC Championship where Brock
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  Speaker 1: Purdy got hurt, right?
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I know the way that we talk about Kyle Shanahan
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  Speaker 1: as a coach. I know the way that we talk
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  Speaker 1: about Nick Sirianni as a coach.
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  Speaker 2: If that's the way.
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  Speaker 1: That we talk about Kyle Shanahan and we talk about
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  Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni, how do you think Kyle Shanahan talks about
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  Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni? Do you know how furious he was when
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  Speaker 1: Purdy went down? Like, do you realize if we think
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  Speaker 1: these things about Kyle, Kyle really thinks these things about Kyle.
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  Speaker 4: And if we think these things about Sirianni, Kyle thinks
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  Speaker 4: these things about Sirianni.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. So you think Kyle's out here trying
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  Speaker 2: to get cooked by Sirianni? Like, there's a, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the old story.
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  Speaker 1: I think we've talked about this on the show, but
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  Speaker 1: if you hadn't heard it, what Bobby Knight talks about, man,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't sure how that game was going to go
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  Speaker 1: that I look over and saw Dale Brown and.
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  Speaker 2: I knew everything was going to be okay.
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  Speaker 1: That's got to be Kyle Shanahan at the prospect of
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  Speaker 1: coaching a game against Nick Sirianni. And that's more or
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  Speaker 1: less what happened here. His team was the better coach team, period.
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  Speaker 1: I would not blame them if they fired Seriotti at
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  Speaker 1: midfield for this.
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  Speaker 2: Game, right? They're not going to. But what will it take?
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  Speaker 1: Right? Because they're going to be so, at least they
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  Speaker 1: are so talented. And it feels like they'll be this
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  Speaker 1: talented for a while that they'll be able to win 10, 11,
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  Speaker 1: 12 games. But something's not right. Right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, and if something was not right all year,
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  Speaker 4: the vibes were Not great all year.
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  Speaker 2: They weren't great last year. They just won the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 4: We're now two of the last three years where the
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  Speaker 4: vibes are terrible. You have a stunning collapse to end
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  Speaker 4: your season. I mean, it wasn't as bad as the
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  Speaker 4: Bucs loss where they quit out there. But this was
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  Speaker 4: the offense was as inept as it's been all year long. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: This is more than likely A.J. Brown's last game with
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  Speaker 4: the team.
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  Speaker 1: You got to be.
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  Speaker 4: So, like, I mean, as Deontay always says, what exactly
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  Speaker 4: do you do here?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so when you are getting booed in a close
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  Speaker 1: playoff game, because here we go with that shit again.
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  Speaker 2: That's a, you know, like people couldn't even, people couldn't even.
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  Speaker 1: Focus to keep the main thing the main thing.
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  Speaker 2: So, like, whoo.
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  Speaker 1: And again, though, credit to Shanahan and really credit to
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  Speaker 1: Solomon because them dudes is out there bringing the hammer with,
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you again, I don't know who these people
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  Speaker 1: are and I don't know who these people are because
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  Speaker 1: they had people who I did know. Guys like Fred
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  Speaker 1: Warner who might go to the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 2: They're hurt. They were beat down.
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  Speaker 1: They're, for my money, Hall of Fame tight end, probably
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  Speaker 1: post like non-Gronk, best tight end of his era in Kittle.
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  Speaker 1: It may be over for him. He just had the
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  Speaker 1: Achilles tear. Um, McCaffrey's still getting it done. I did
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  Speaker 1: not realize he had 400-something touches this year. Like, this
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  Speaker 1: is a tricky one for Kyle because they're down so
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  Speaker 1: many guys. And I don't think– I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: this is going to be next year for them just
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  Speaker 1: because of what the physical total is going to be
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  Speaker 1: for all of this.
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  Speaker 2: But what it wasn't going to be was him losing
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  Speaker 2: no game to no Nick Sirianni.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and after this, they have to go up and
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  Speaker 4: they got to go play Sam Darnold. And they got
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  Speaker 4: to go play that Mike McDonald defense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, this is where this gets fun, man, because–
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  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold is Sam Darnold. We'll have plenty of time
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  Speaker 1: to talk about this, but he is same Darnold. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Like we have seen enough to know that he didn't
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  Speaker 1: turn into an entirely different person, but this is teams
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  Speaker 1: that have played each other twice.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to be, that's going to be a very
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  Speaker 2: good game, I think.
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  Speaker 1: But again, for the Seahawks to be nice to rest
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  Speaker 1: is 49 is beat up.
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  Speaker 2: I want to also say this right here.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out to you, Josh Allen, because a lonely nation
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  Speaker 1: turns his eyes to you.
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  Speaker 3: Apparently.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan, I only got no idea what these broadcasters are
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  Speaker 1: going to do if they had no Josh Allen for
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  Speaker 1: the rest of these playoffs. I had a buddy hit
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  Speaker 1: me up and was like, hey, man, I'll be watching
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  Speaker 1: the red zone for the majority of the year so
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  Speaker 1: I don't hear the announcers. And I've been hearing people
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  Speaker 1: talk about how they be glazing Josh Allen, but he
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  Speaker 1: just figured that it's black people being a little hypersensitive
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  Speaker 1: about the situation. And then he watched the game and
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  Speaker 1: he was like, no, no, no. That's not what happened here.
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  Speaker 4: I know. I don't, you know, I think that... Insult
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  Speaker 4: applies with Romo and Josh Allen in particular. I think
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  Speaker 4: he's going to push him, Jim. You know, like it's
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  Speaker 4: just all that the whole game.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, hate the tush push so much.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God. Like that play where they basically walked
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  Speaker 1: into the end zone and his alignment basically carried him.
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  Speaker 1: That's not what we're... that's not what this is supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 2: This has got to be the last year of it.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not taking no credit away from Alec because
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  Speaker 1: the big loot was the looting dog. He was getting
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  Speaker 1: it done. I mean, he, he ain't throwing to nobody either.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like just to be clear, that was an
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  Speaker 2: amazing game.
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  Speaker 1: I thought, I mean, I didn't feel like that's a
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  Speaker 1: game where I come out of it really blaming people,
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  Speaker 1: although I guess you and I didn't think the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: had any need to throw the ball at all in
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  Speaker 1: that game.
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  Speaker 4: They were averaging at one point like eight yards a
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  Speaker 4: run in the first half, and Liam Cohen, these offensive
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  Speaker 4: coaches sometimes just can't help themselves.
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  Speaker 1: Just can't do it, right? If there's a blame, it's that,
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  Speaker 1: but I still... That was a game I came away
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  Speaker 1: from it just being like, hey, hats off to all
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  Speaker 1: parties involved in the course of it, but... I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's just Josh Allen thing is interesting in that we
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  Speaker 1: have extended him a measure of patience for being in
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: year eight, right? Maybe this is because we do treat
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: my homes like Jordan. And so like we not Charles
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  Speaker 1: Barkley for not winning a championship. We not Patrick Ewan
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  Speaker 1: for not winning a championship, but we don't really look
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  Speaker 1: at them like they were deficient because of the recognition
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  Speaker 1: of the time and era in which they play. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: that is the benefit of the doubt that we are
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  Speaker 1: affording Josh Allen. Cause to be fair, we don't really
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  Speaker 1: knock Lamar Jackson for having not won a Superbowl, right?
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  Speaker 4: We've knocked him for bad playoff performance.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So some total of it.
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  Speaker 1: Right. So to be fair to Josh Allen, all of this, however,
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  Speaker 1: if the quarterback means what we say that the quarterback means,
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  Speaker 1: then this is the time for him to go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and do it. Cause look, let me make sure like
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  Speaker 1: you go back through and you look at what the
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  Speaker 1: rest of this conference is going to be. Um, It
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  Speaker 1: feels kind of like we're in an era in the
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  Speaker 1: NFL where....
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  Speaker 2: And I guess maybe it's.
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  Speaker 1: Been longer than this, and we just haven't given enough credit.
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  Speaker 1: I know I've talked about this in the past. You
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  Speaker 1: can win with a starting quarterback, not necessarily a franchise quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Jalen Hurts just won a Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the definition of the starting quarterback, but
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  Speaker 1: not the franchise quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: But truthfully, before him.
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  Speaker 1: The last quarterback that we had win a Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: that truly fit that definition, I guess, is Nick Foles.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we'll never say this, but the last.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe the old versions of Tom Brady.
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  Speaker 4: No, I was going to say specifically the last Patriots
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  Speaker 4: version of Tom Brady. Because the Bucs, he was playing
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  Speaker 4: a little... He got a little bit going towards the
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  Speaker 4: end of that season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he was bad in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and got really good the last two years, so
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  Speaker 4: that season's weird. But, I mean, the Patriots' Brady, where
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  Speaker 4: they won against the Rams 13-3, was kind of just
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  Speaker 4: a guy. But I think Foles is a good answer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but in that, though, but he's still Tom Brady, right?
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 4: He's still got this, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I mean, that year that Peyton Manning was so
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  Speaker 1: awful in 2015, where they had to park him to
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: just hope he could come back in the playoffs and
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  Speaker 1: give them something. Even with him being bad and he
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: was throwing them Frisbees, right?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They were still some comeback wins early in that season
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  Speaker 1: on the strength of he's still Peyton Manning, right? Like
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  Speaker 1: there was still a magic that he could dial up.
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  Speaker 1: But the AFC, there's a high probability of a dude
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  Speaker 1: or a younger or a young guy like pulling this
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  Speaker 1: off in this. Josh Allen to be who is, you
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  Speaker 1: know what? I was going to say it feels unfair
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  Speaker 1: to be like to be what we say Josh Allen is.
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  Speaker 1: What we're asking Josh Allen to do is things that
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  Speaker 1: we've seen Josh Allen do before, but are unfair to
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  Speaker 1: perhaps ask somebody to do all the time. Right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, this is kind, but this is like, to
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  Speaker 4: your point, this is kind of might be 94, 95.
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  Speaker 4: It could be. This might be the gap without Mahomes to,
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  Speaker 4: you got to get your title now or who, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Who knows of the way these teams are constructed.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So how about this?
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  Speaker 1: And I think this is the best way to think
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  Speaker 1: about it in that context. Forget about blame. Forget about fault.
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  Speaker 1: Forget about culpability. Forget about where you're supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: in a given point in time. Just straight ahead. If
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  Speaker 1: you're going to do it, I would recommend you do
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  Speaker 1: it when the number one seed in your conference is
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacked by Bo Nix. I would recommend that now be
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  Speaker 1: the time that you go ahead and do it. Because
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  Speaker 1: the one thing that Josh Allen does have in common
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  Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson is in the end, you can make
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  Speaker 1: a lot of arguments about Lamar in some of these
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  Speaker 1: games and you can say that he was not the
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  Speaker 1: reason that Baltimore lost. But the indisputable fact was that
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  Speaker 1: he was not the reason why they won. And as
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  Speaker 1: of now, Josh Allen has not been the reason that
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  Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills have won the AFC. He is certainly
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  Speaker 1: not the reason they lost the 13 second game. I
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  Speaker 1: have a law and it was, but he was not
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  Speaker 1: the reason that they won that game either. Right? Now's
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  Speaker 1: the time. Can you get this done? Can you make
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  Speaker 1: this happen? Um, I don't think that there is truly
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  Speaker 1: any more compelling storyline left in this.
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  Speaker 2: Um, this is it.
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  Speaker 1: Can the big glue glued it all the way and
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  Speaker 1: get them to the Superbowl. if he looks like he
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: did at those points in Jacksonville, right. He's, he's so
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  Speaker 1: much fun.
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  Speaker 4: Right. I mean, whether or not it's the best, you know,
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  Speaker 4: but when he is running around, you know, putting the
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: cape on it, it's about as fun as it gets.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: So here's the thing to me. I test number one,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: I test quarterback of all time is John Elway. And
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: I've had people try to make the point to me.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: They come back around on it. They're like, well, Aaron Rodgers.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, but everybody's ain't look like that. They're like, well,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, he's only one inch shorter in the same weight.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying.
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers didn't get drafted by the Yankees.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: And how about this? Aaron Rodgers didn't get drafted number 25.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: If Aaron Rodgers looked like John Elway.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: 1-1.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It doesn't matter what, right?
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: But Josh Allen really got drafted on looks the part.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: It was in spite of his actual performance where he
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: wasn't even all conference in the Mountain West. It was
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: in spite of it. Josh Allen looks so much bigger
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: than John Elway did while doing reasonably similar things. Yeah,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: there's a big.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: Difference between 6'3 and 6'5, nearly 6'6.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't, he's not as fluid an athlete as
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Elway was, right? And it doesn't look as easy or
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: the ball doesn't quite explode out of his hand in
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: the way that it did out of Elway. But when
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: this dude is rolling, man, it's just like, What do
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: you do?
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: What, what, what, what in the world?
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: And again, he's not doing a QB sneak for 10 yards.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: I still get that. Ban it, ban it. It was,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: it was, it was absurd, but this is if Josh
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Allen wins this, it'll be great for all parties involved.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Cause there's really the only true reason to root against
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: him is some measure of.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Hating, right?
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Like, like that's, that's all we've got in this, but
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: I tell you, they almost lost it.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: And in that loss, The coach almost lost his job.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Speaking of coaches and jobs that can be lost.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: It's hard for me to call this shocking.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: News because it is not really news. It's a bit
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: of milk toast as far as news goes, but still
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: is a bit shocking. Adam Schefter is reporting, and again...
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: This is no knock on him, right? This is just
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: where the game goes. But Ryan, he is reporting that
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: the Packers and Matt LaFleur are expected to work on
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: a contract extension. And that's news about something that hasn't happened. Right.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's news about the reporting of a potential transaction
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: that is not transacted.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Right. It's not even just news about something that hasn't happened.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: It's news that something might happen, but we're not 100% sure.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Which is not exactly news.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: Correct. But it is interesting.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not a knock on Schefter, right? But it's interesting because... It.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Raises some interesting questions about like, what in the world
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: are the Packers doing? Okay, so this is where I'm standing, right?
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: We are now a good, almost 48 hours removed from
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: that game on Saturday night where the Packers fell apart
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: in the second half against the Bears and Caleb Williams.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Hey man, do you notice this by the way about
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams? Well, I guess, okay, let me get to
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: that later. Let me get to that later. I'm gonna
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: hold that. We're gonna talk about some playoff stuff in
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm gonna hold that. Boom, we get there, okay?
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: I'm excited.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: I don't even know where we're going with this.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But this is
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We went into this game with LeFleur's
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: job being a little shaky. Ryan, we mentioned this last show,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: and I noticed that apparently we got some pushback on
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: the internet about the fact that LeFleur's job might be
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: in danger, even though people have been talking about this.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: Yes, we don't make up these rumors.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like the reason I said that, I thought that
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: we were operating with a common understanding of things, right?
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: But apparently we were not. Okay, then it went the
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: way it went.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: And now everybody's talking about, hey, you got to fire
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: this guy for this one, right? Or that's the internet
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: chatter that goes. And I see this among reporters, not
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: just among people I know actually exist, not just stuff
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: on the internet, right? And so then it goes, and
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: my question is, if you were the Packers and there
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: was any doubt about whether or not you were going
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: to keep LeFleur going into Saturday, after.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Saturday, you fire him.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Like, that loss was a, that loss was a fireable offense.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: They were up 13 points with less than seven minutes
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: to go in the fourth quarter.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: Right, right.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Like, you don't get fired for every fireable offense. But
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: if you were trying to, decide if you were going
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: to fire him, there's nothing else for us to do here.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: You don't even have to let him go talk to
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: the team. Yeah.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Or like, when he goes in and talks to the team,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: you know, he gets in there and is.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Like, and I will take.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: With me, the memories.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Because it's over, dog. It's over. This is it. Now
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: we come back Monday.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Morning and they're saying, oh, well, you know, they, you know,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: we expect that they'll work out, work on it.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, not even work out. Work on. How hard
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: is this? I got none of this. What have you been?
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: He has one year left on his contract. What have
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: you been doing all year?
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: You and his agent ain't never thrown no numbers out there.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Nobody's had any conversation about this. This is what you
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: expect me to believe. No. The only thing that I
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: could glean from this is that the Packers are in
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: a situation where they know they probably want to move
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: on to another coach. Now, I tend to think he's
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: a better coach than they do. But I see what
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: the problem is.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: You know, like, I see what the issue is if
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: you decide to go ahead and make that move.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: There are obvious glaring issues, but this is also the
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: same person who made Malik Willis look like a real
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: NFL quarterback.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: This is kind of like what happened with James Franklin
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: at Penn State. Like, I don't think you're going to
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: get a better coach, but I see why you did it.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Right? You know, now maybe they did in Penn State,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: but you get my point, right? I get why you
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: might have made this move. I can only assume that
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: what the Packers are doing is recognizing that LeFleur, if
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: they fire him, will work somewhere next year.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: This isn't some dude where it's like.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe I'll take a year off and go
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: do some television.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: How old is he?
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: 38?
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I'm actually not sure. Like, it's just hard for me
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: to tell. Once a white boy get a fade, you
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? And got like a trying to
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: be cool dude mustache, he could be anywhere in the
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: age continuum.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: 46.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: He's 46?
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: He's older than me?
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Hold on.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Here's what makes that crazy.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: I remember he's older. Do you remember the stories about
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: how he was Brian Kelly's graduate assistant?
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: For Central Michigan, he got.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Invited to the party.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: He and Sala, were they both, were they the ones
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: where they were valet in cars?
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they got invited to the party. They thought they
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: were invited to the party, but they were told to
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: valet cars.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: They were Prince Akeem and Simi.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: But just for some context, you know Sean McVay still
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: isn't 40?
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he turns 40 in two weeks.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he turns 40 in two weeks.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: He's seven years older or younger than Matt LeFleur. But anyway,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: they must be planning to trade him.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Or are we opening the market to trade him?
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Put themselves into a position where if somebody wants
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: the floor, then they can get some picks out of
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: the situation.
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Baltimore is a team that we look at.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: The Falcons got to be like, damn, because if you
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: want to pick, you probably want a first round pick.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: And we ain't got one of those right now. Otherwise,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: this doesn't add up. Right. Now, the biggest loser in
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: this scenario that the Packers have pointed out, or maybe
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: the Just a winner, and it goes a little farther
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: down the line, is John Harbaugh.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: When John Harbaugh got fired, Adam Schefter told.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: The world that nine teams had reached out to Team Harbaugh.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: At the time, there were only six job openings.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: I think it's a pretty easy math on who those
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: three teams are.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Who you got? The Giants?
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: No, teams without openings.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Okay, so the Packers at the time.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: The Packers?
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: The Dolphins at the time.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: See, I was going Packers, Eagles, Bills.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, but remember the Dolphins had a coach.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: At the time.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: The Dolphins did have a coach at the time.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But all of these are on the board.
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: The Eagles.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: That's the tricky one, right?
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked about that earlier.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we already got into that. Don't need to do
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: that again. But Harbaugh has all this leverage.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Like apparently he's got a list of demands that is
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: starting to float around. And who has any idea if
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: those demands are true? That could be just as easily
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: leaked out by a team that is trying to poison
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: the well and make people not want him. But in
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: the end, he is accomplished. His teams have been consistently good.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: He is basically thought of as a guy that people
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: can get along with and an ego that would allow
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: him to put people in places and let them.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Do their jobs.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Like, I see all the reasons why people would be
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: interested in hiring him. But did you see what just
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: happened with the last team that he coached with one
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: of the three best quarterbacks in the NFL? And no
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: matter what you might say about Lamar Jackson and what
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the word on the street might be and so forth
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: and so on, he's Lamar Jackson. And he's the guy
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: that saved Harbaugh's job in the first place. However many
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: years ago it's been now, right? Seven going on eight, okay?
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: He's the guy who did that. Harbaugh's also 64 years old.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Are you guys sure about this? Like, Is this terribly
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: different than hiring Pete Carroll? If you had done that
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. And I want to be
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: clear about something. Pete Carroll is a lot older than
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: John Harbaugh, right? But at this point, right? This is
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: my 10 year age gap between them.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Won a Super Bowl about a decade ago.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: Feuded with his, at the time, star quarterback.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Struggled to hire and promote coordinators. Yep.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Kind of gradual decline.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: Kind of gradual decline. And yeah. And then had, you know,
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: epic playoff failures and high leverage moments.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Yep. And by the way, when I mean gradual decline,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: is that even in the record, right? but it's in
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: things around the edges.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Of the program, right?
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: That's what all the reports that you get now about
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Harbaugh in Baltimore is it just kind of frayed around
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: the edges. He didn't lose the team, right? Like it
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: wasn't all over. Now it is possible that, and I've
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: seen this example be made about Harbaugh that maybe it's
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: like Andy Reid and you just need to leave this
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: one place and then go somewhere else and restart.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Couple of things.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: One, I have a much clearer idea of what the
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Andy Reid football philosophy is. and what he's bringing. I'm
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: not saying Harbaugh doesn't have these things. I'm saying I
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: don't have as clear an idea about it. Number two,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: John Harbaugh is 64 today. Andy Reid is 67 today.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Andy Reid made that job change 13 years ago. He
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: was 54.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying?
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: We're not talking about the same thing under those circumstances,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: but He's such a great fit for the Giants. You
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, he's exactly the kind of
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: guy the Giants want.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: I understand if you are an organizational dumpster fire and
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: you're like, we have to get an adult in here.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: I understand the logic behind it. But, like, if you
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: have a three... Let's say you need a two-year rebuild
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: to find your quarterback and turn over your roster.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Not the guy.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Even if he was, he'd be 66.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: But hold on.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Let's think about this. Because what John Harbaugh never had
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: to do was rebuild. Right. Right? He has never had
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: to start it from the bottom. When they fired Brian Billick,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: that team wasn't great, but it still had, I want
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: to say, four Hall of Famers, right?
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: And a top three GM in Ozzie Newsom.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: You got Ozzie Newsom, you had Ray Lewis, you had
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Ed Reed, you had Terrell Suggs.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Was Ogden on the team?
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Ogden retired at the end of 07.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Gotcha.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: But point has been made, right?
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, correct.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Everybody sees what we're talking about. Now, if we look
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: at the job openings that are there, oh, the Jets,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: not an opening.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: That's wild. Yes.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: The Giants, kind of, sort of a rebuild, but I
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: guess it depends on how far along you feel like
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: their quarterback is and how long he's got to go
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: before he gets his egg cracked.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: The Browns, oh, no, no, no, no, no.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's a win for either side of this,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: if it comes to it.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Well, the Packers, maybe.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: The Packers are the team where Harbaugh would have had
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: all the leverage, right? Weren't on the street with something
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: he won like $ 20 million a year. This is not
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Sean Payton, right? This is not a guy that I
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: look at like, yeah, that's the one that we.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: And be clear, Sean Payton, clear foibles. But someone with
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: a clear football philosophy.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like when you bring him in,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: everything is different in a way that is not quite
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: the same.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Like Harbaugh's not that kind of personality.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: And he still has Bill Parcells putting him over. Yes.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: By the way, John is not his brother.
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Now, you tell me that we're coming in with his
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: brother and we're going to turn this thing over. And
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: by the way, he never really had to. He didn't
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: have to rebuild with the 49ers. No. He didn't have
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: to rebuild with the Chargers. He went places with at
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: least a quarterback. All right, I can do something with this.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: You know, if you take John Harbaugh to Atlanta, that
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: becomes interesting because they don't need a rebuild, but they
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: also don't really have a quarterback.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: And the one that they might got got one leg.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: You know, he's not going to Tennessee.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Like that's that's that's not going to be a place
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: that he wants.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: Of Clint Kubiak. You know, just like the next person
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: in the McVeigh Shanahan trade is getting another job.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Now, I bet you could get Mark Davis to give
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: you a gazillion dollars. But who all money and good money, baby.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? The Cardinals, the Cardinals are
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: very confusing because I don't know. They have a quarterback,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: but they don't want him.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Right, and also sneaky dysfunctional franchise.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know where they're supposed to get
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: this other quarterback. They're doing a lot of things that
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: your boy don't understand is all I'm saying. I don't
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: know where this place is that's a John Harbaugh awake.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: From making this go? And how many.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Double-digit losses, I mean, leads have they blown? Like, what
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: have these playoff scenarios been under Lamar Jackson? He's been
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: right there with them.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: You know where the best scenario for a hypothetical John
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: Harbaugh is?
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Hmm. The Ravens.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Or, or, or the Steelers.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: I do like the idea of them just trading coaches.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: You know, there's so many interesting ideas there, right? Because...
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Each is the kind of coach that the other franchise
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: is into.
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Right. Right.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: They fit each other's stability.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Right. You know, they're going to be some looks perhaps,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: but it's going to be a pretty steady ship as
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: it goes across the board. And by the way, all
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: of this is why the Steelers are not moving off
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: or no Mike Tomlin. Right.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Like that's unless they go higher shot Harbaugh.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But hey, we're saying this before the
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Steelers play this game against the Houston Texans. So we
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: don't know exactly what any of this could be.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: But Harbaugh has all the leverage.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: And I just want to know, who are the people
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: that are sitting in there and being like, wait a
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: minute now, wait a minute. Because look, the whole league
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: did that with Bill Belichick. And I think as of now,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: those decisions have been vindicated. Now, the difference is Belichick
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: has a clear football philosophy, and that may have been
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: the problem.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Particularly a philosophy on talent evaluation.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: His philosophy is, I know what I'm doing.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Yep. Trust me.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Which works really well for, you know, about 18 years.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Until it didn't.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, so let's think about this with Philadelphia.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Former Eagles assistant John Harbaugh. OK, let's just say the
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Eagles look, man, they got to fire. The day is
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: going to come where they got to fire Sirianni after
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: going like 12 and 5, 11 and 6. Right. I
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: think we talked about that before. Like that's that's going
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: to happen at some point. Harbaugh would not be a
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: terrible fit there. But is Harbaugh trying to work in
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: a situation where Howie got all the power and is
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: running the roster? Because it sounds like Harbaugh wants to
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: go somewhere where he's got all that power.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Which is also another interesting, you know, decision to give
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: to a 64-year-old.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man. Like, this is.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: It's an awkward time. It's the greatest time in the
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: world for him to get fired. But it's not a
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: great time for him to get hired. Like, I don't...
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: We're going to learn a lot about what all these
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: front offices truly prioritize in this moment. And I would say,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: for example, if you're John Harbaugh and the Giants want
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: to hire you, that is an indictment of you. Like
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: nothing about the Giants hiring of late says, oh boy,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: they know what they're doing. You know what I mean?
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Like Al Davis used to mess up a lot in hiring,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: but he used to try to hire a lot of
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: guys that turned out to be good.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Like if Al Davis wanted to hire you, you were 32,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: it might've meant something.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: People just didn't want to go work for him. The
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: ones who could.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: But if the people who brought you Ben McAdoo, Pat Shermer,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Brian Daybold, Judge Joe Brown, Joe Judge, that was his name.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: If they're like, yo, we see something in you. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: What's that supposed to mean, partner? You know, what you
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: think about me right now?
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: I'm just going to point out for the record that
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: you insulted John Harbaugh in the same way you backhanded
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: compliment Lane Kiffin.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: It's actually the shining thing on the Lane Kiffin resume
• 33:34
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• 33:38
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• 33:40
  Speaker 1: And then by the way, one year later, Get this
• 33:44
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• 33:46
  Speaker 2: I never... Oh, I hate Lane Kiffin so much.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Bo, three games we haven't really hit. Rams,
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• 36:40
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  Speaker 4: from these three games?
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, now, out of these three games, I think Well,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: the biggest loser, I think, again, is Matt LaFleur, who
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: we just got to be talking about.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Justin Herbert's close.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if I say the runner-up, I think it's Justin Herbert.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: I want to be fair to him, though, right?
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Their tackles have been out all a year he's got
• 37:03
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• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Um i like that that that's gonna be the take
• 37:11
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• 37:13
  Speaker 1: It is oh but first things first is this is
• 37:16
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• 37:19
  Speaker 1: herbert situation um I think Herbert again wound up in
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: a situation where we said with Josh Allen before, I
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: do not think he is the reason that they lost
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: that game, but it is very clear that he is
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: not the reason why they won that game. Right. So
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: like he is a runner up there in the loser category.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Honestly, the winner.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: It's like it's either Caleb Williams or it's Drake May.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: And I mean that in the sense that obviously a
• 37:51
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• 37:59
  Speaker 1: May has been better this year, Caleb Williams felt like
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: he was on the clock this year.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: Do you remember that article that came out at the
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: beginning of the year?
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Tyler Dunn piece. And by the way, It
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: looks to me, and I could be wrong. I don't
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: know these people, okay? I don't think those people like him.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: But it is reaching the point where it doesn't really matter.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 38:20
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Like, he is... He had a jump-on-my-back performance in that game.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: And he is so good when it gets to jump-on-my-back point. Right? Like,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: what Johnson has gotten out of him is we're not
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: taking the sacks. That, by itself, is a giant improvement
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: for him. Where he took something like 40 fewer sacks.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: this season than he did last season.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: And, man, he's got an arm.
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: When this is just get back there, move around a
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: little bit, see what might happen, he was making throws
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: that I could not believe.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: My goodness, I couldn't believe the stuff that he was doing.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: And so now he's skipped over the question, well, when
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: will he win a playoff game question. That one is
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: already answered. You know what I mean?
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: They get a home playoff game.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Again, right? Right.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: They play the Rams.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, you know, in that one.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Hey, the Rams just struggled against an 8-9 team.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: By the way, shout out to the little homie.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: He did the best he could, and it was pretty good. Like,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: way to go, Bryce, y'all. Just don't take no more
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: pictures with Mina. That that just that messed everything up
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: for you.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: Man that was a bit of a tough beat all
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: right well let's transition a bit more of a serious
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: topic Trump administration says they will send hundreds more federal
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: agents to Minneapolis over the week following the weekend uh
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: to support ICE agents after of course the shooting of
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: a woman there um But what's your reaction to what's
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: going on in Minnesota?
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: All right, man. So this is my thing about ice
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: and there. And, you know, I think most of the
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: top line things have been said by people already. I
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: think observing what happened is fairly obvious what it was.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I'm a bit out of the business of saying obvious
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: things at this point.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Like that's that's not the direction that I want to
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: go in. And generally speaking, I'm out of the business
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: of watching people get shot. OK, so I have not like.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: So deep in the like, I don't know the way
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: to put it, but, you know, when we used to
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: talk about the police killing people all the time before
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: we got bored with it, I used to get in
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: there and like watch these videos and, you know, get
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: in and investigating. It was like I was trying to
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: prove a point, like argue the truth of the matter
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: to people to win the argument until realizing that the
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: particulars didn't matter. The particulars weren't the point.
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: And there were all these little details that you could
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: come up with that you were trying to explain if
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: it was justified or not. The laws were engineered in
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: such a way to where this question never really came up.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: And the real issue was just about whether or not
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: people possess the requisite level of empathy for black people
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: under these circumstances, right? And I felt like that was
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: the fight that was being had at that time was
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: a fight.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: About humanity.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: And there was always a little subtle undercurrent of the
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: discussion which basically implied that white people didn't care that
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: much if white people got shot by the cops either, right?
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Like the argument would wind up being from some people,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: and I'd seen this often where black folks would bring
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: up these numbers about black people getting killed by the
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: cops and what happens when black people get caught by
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: the cops. And the response to it was, well, this
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: doesn't just happen to black people, which is a really
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: interesting answer for people to have, right?
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: But it was the truth.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: All these laws and the way they go apply to
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: if you smoke a white person too. And they were
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: on occasion smoking white people and getting away with it. Like,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: you know, these same things were going on. We just
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: got to like a larger police state sort of issue that, again,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think we ever resolved. We just kind of
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: moved on and talked about something else. Well, now we're
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: dealing with a different macro issue.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: On top of it.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: And that issue was ICE.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: La migra, as nuestros hermanos call it, right? The immigration
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: police that we have, which is a force that's been
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: around for a while, but a force that gets beefed
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: up because they need more people to do the job. Ryan,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much subway riding you're doing, but
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I've seen the advertisements on there, right?
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: You know, like they out here.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that they're looking for ICE agents, not
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: in the places where you get your best and brightest.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's articles and faxed figures about the people
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: they're finding.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: They're terrible.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: To put it succinctly and bluntly, they're overweight and they
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: can't read.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Right. And this is not an exaggeration.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: Which is at minimum... Not great qualifications for cops.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. This is not a generalization that he's making here. Like,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: have you ever seen Cocaine Cowboys?
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: It's a documentary about just kind of the building of
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: modern Miami, basically. But they made a point that as
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Miami got bigger and bigger and the drug game got
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: bigger and bigger, they needed more and more police.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: But they were.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Unable to find police that met the minimum standards that
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: they had.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: For the police force.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Like, for example, it started with you couldn't be a
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: cop if you would ever use drugs. Okay, well, that
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: standard was too high. And then it got to be, well,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: you haven't used drugs in the last two years. And
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: that standard was too high. And it got to be,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: can you pass a drug test? And that standard was
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: too high. And it basically got to, are you high
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: right now? Because this is what happens when you need
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: to build up the staff of an organization very quickly.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: You cannot really have standards. Now, this gentleman that shot
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: this woman in Minnesota, I don't know how long he's
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: been there. I mean, for all I know, He is
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: a decorated police officer somewhere else and then wound up here.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: If I had to guess, that's probably not the case, right?
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: So what we have is a force that has a
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: lot of not actual law enforcement officers, right?
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Substitute teachers at best.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Newbies, like volunteers, whatever it is, right? But these are not.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: This ain't our best that's out here, okay? So you're
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: taking these people... And again, I'll let you make your
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: own conclusions about what happened with the shooting itself. What
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: I will point out, though, is that the dude the
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: whole way was filming it himself with his own cell phone, okay?
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: And when it came time to shoot the woman, passes
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: the cell phone from one hand to the other hand
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: so he can use his trigger hand to shoot into
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: the woman's car and then.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Calls her a bitch after it's said and done, okay?
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: The reason that this cat is filming this, this isn't
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: a body cam that I'm talking about, right?
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: Or the dash cam on the car or something like that.
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Or something that exists.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: He opted into filming this video.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, something that exists to document, right? Something that exists
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: in case something like this happens.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: No, man, they out here making content. You see how crazy,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: you want to see how crazy that is?
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Like this is, this is like, if there's any reflection
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: of the madness of the world that we live in
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: right now, is that somebody's out here making content and
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: did not think to himself, hey, I maybe shouldn't shoot
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: somebody right now because I'm taking a video of it.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Not just somebody might be taking a video of it.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: You never know if somebody's looking, I'm taking a video
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: And still shot this woman.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: What?
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Like, what exactly is it that we're doing? And so
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: you can send more agents up there because it is
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: getting kind of cracking, right?
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Like this is, I mean, they're big.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: That's what happens when a situation gets escalated. Yeah. Yeah,
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: you know, you know. It's kind of a situation of
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: our own making, but yes, it is an escalating situation.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, but think about this too.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: This is the third high-profile shooting that I can think
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: of that has happened in Minnesota in the last, I
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: guess we'll call it 10 years or so. Or not shooting,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: police violence situation. I don't know the word.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Officer involved, is that how they put it?
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: One of them obviously is George.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Floyd, right? This one is this one. But the first one,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know if people realize this, you know, the
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: police don't never get in trouble for shooting people, okay?
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: I believe at the time that there had been, there's
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: been one incident in the state of Minnesota where a
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: police officer had, I don't remember if it was brought
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: under indictment, conviction, whatever it is, for shooting a civilian.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: And it was this one, and it was when it
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: was a Somali police officer, okay? And a woman walked
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: around to his side of the car. And he turned
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: and shot her.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: And they got him for that one. Now, I've been
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: paying attention to people getting shot by the police all
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: the time along with living a life where I'm trying
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: not to get shot by the police. That sort of situation,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I guarantee you if it's me, ain't nobody getting indicted.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: You walked up over that man's shoulder. He feared for
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: his life.
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Turned and shot.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: That's this situation to me, Ryan, is like it was
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: a white woman. Important to note. So this situation is
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: like the in-between of the two.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: It looks fairly indefensible, but also has a combination of that.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Maybe you shouldn't do that thing that people easily jump on.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's true. I'm just saying that's the
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: thing that people easily jump on. But it's also a
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: white woman who wound up getting shot. So like somebody
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: who doesn't necessarily fit the profile, who gets shot by
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: the police when people start shrugging their shoulders.
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: That whole jumbled mess of things.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: I doubt that there's going to be any punishment that's
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: laid down, especially because the FBI say that they want
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: to look into it. And that seems potentially self-serving, I
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: think is the fairest way to put what that might be.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: But bottom line is we are at a place in
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: our society, in this society, where somebody will shoot you
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: while making a video of it. and not think twice
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: about putting down the fucking phone.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: All right, Bo, get the voicemails. Time to read back
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: a show favorite.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: What's up?
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: What's up?
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: Happy New Year to everyone. This is DJ Mike Hitman.
• 48:55
  Speaker 8: I got the D's. I got to tell y'all, 25
• 48:57
  Speaker 8: is over. 2026 is here. It's a new year. I
• 48:59
  Speaker 8: got the D's.
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: I want to say, I want the man.
• 49:05
  Speaker 8: To be man. The three things I need y'all to
• 49:07
  Speaker 8: do first, get out your mama house. You got to
• 49:11
  Speaker 8: get out your mama house. Get out the basement, pay
• 49:13
  Speaker 8: your own bill.
• 49:14
  Speaker 7: You should have your own car and you should have
• 49:17
  Speaker 7: your own apartment because if you.
• 49:19
  Speaker 8: Don't have your own apartment, a woman can't put you out.
• 49:22
  Speaker 8: You could go to your own place. That's the problem, man.
• 49:25
  Speaker 8: You're living with these women that put you out. It's
• 49:27
  Speaker 8: time for you to be man.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 49:30
  Speaker 8: You got to get out of them damn jerseys. You
• 49:32
  Speaker 8: ain't Roger Staubach. You ain't Drew Pearce. And you ain't Tom.
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: Landry walking around with them damn jerseys.
• 49:38
  Speaker 8: Get out of them damn jerseys. You don't play football.
• 49:40
  Speaker 8: Be a man. Get a shirt and a tag. Get
• 49:42
  Speaker 8: a job.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 49:44
  Speaker 7: I need all you men to go get, if you
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: don't know how to fix nothing, if not a damn thing,
• 49:49
  Speaker 7: go get a hammer, a screwdriver, a plier.
• 49:52
  Speaker 8: Keep it around the house. Make it seem like you
• 49:54
  Speaker 8: know how to do something. Because if you don't, I'm
• 49:57
  Speaker 8: going to be the maintenance man coming over there Hello,
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: what do you need fixed? Okay, get the tools in
• 50:03
  Speaker 8: the house, guys.
• 50:04
  Speaker 7: It's 2026.
• 50:05
  Speaker 8: Play like you know how to fix something.
• 50:08
  Speaker 7: This is what you got to have, guys. Have your
• 50:10
  Speaker 7: own car. Have your own place. Have your own money.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: You know why?
• 50:15
  Speaker 7: Because if you got your own car, you can drive places.
• 50:18
  Speaker 8: Nobody got to take you.
• 50:20
  Speaker 7: You got your own house or your apartment, you don't
• 50:23
  Speaker 7: have to be worried to get put out.
• 50:25
  Speaker 8: Because you're in our house, you say get out, you
• 50:26
  Speaker 8: got somewhere to go and sleep. If you got your
• 50:29
  Speaker 8: own money.
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: You don't have to go to White Council. You can
• 50:32
  Speaker 7: go to Red Lobster. You can go to Binigan.
• 50:35
  Speaker 8: You can go to Michael Jordan because you're making your
• 50:37
  Speaker 8: own money. Quit depending on these women.
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: Women are good when you walk with them, talk with them,
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: hold them. That's what all they do. Other things than that,
• 50:47
  Speaker 7: you don't need a woman for everything. I need a
• 50:50
  Speaker 7: woman because she cook greens.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: Dang.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: True gay.
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: That is the abridged version.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, that is true gay.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Mike here with me right now asking what time is going.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: To run. That's what that text was about, right?
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: Okay, I was very confused. All right, let's get to
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: our next one.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: Hey, Bo. It's E from the DMV. I got an
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: FCS football question. So Montana State just won national championship.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: And we know North Dakota State is a superpower at
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: this level. But what is the glitch in the matrix
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: out there that those schools have found to be so
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: powerful every year? Because both the Montana schools seem to
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: be good every year. South Dakota State's a championship-level team
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: as well. What is happening out there on the frontier
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: that they get all these Cooper-Dejean dream teams and are
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: beating everybody else up? I know those schools are the
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: only shows in town in those states, but everybody has
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: nice facilities now. How are they getting players or coaches
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: and destroying everybody? Thanks, man. Talk to you later.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: All right, so I think there are a couple things here.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: We are stretching the extent of my powers, but I'm
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: going to go for this, right? Number one is we
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: talked about with Coop Jean, who's from South Dakota. Can't
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: nobody tell you you can't play corner out there because it's.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Only y'all playing corner. You see what I'm saying?
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Like, you got to rise up in a different sort
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: of way because there's nobody to trample your self-esteem and
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: tell you that you're not good enough, right? Like, yo,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: I've said this many times. All them super cold white boys, man,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: they tend to be places super cold and full of
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: white boys, right? That's a big part of it. Number two,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: I'm going to just throw this out here for you.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: If a brother want it so bad that he going
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: to go to Montana to get it, he ain't going
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: out there to fuck around.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying?
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Like, if you want it so bad that you willing
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: to go out there, you mean fitness with a D.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: So I imagine that you get some like cold beast
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: on that front, right?
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Or, you know, a lot of can't go back all stars.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Now you got to go all the way out there
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: to Minnesota and Montana to make it happen.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: It's going to be that. And then there's number three.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: This is the part that gets forgotten, okay? Montana football
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: may not be a big deal to you, but Montana
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: football is a big deal in Montana, right? There are
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: people at Montana and Montana State who really, really care
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: about the football. And some of them may not got
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: all the bread, but they got some bread, right?
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: They got a little money.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: The forces of competition are still going to be there.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: They got a level at which they can be good.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: And once they decide they're going to be good, they're
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: going to invest in what level of being good they
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: can wind up getting.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: It's catch cheating in Juco, baby.
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: People in this country love football everywhere. All sorts of
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: football at every level. People love football.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: And if you set it up in such a way
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: where the state is just big enough to have two teams,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: even if it's just two teams that play on the
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: same level, Okay, now the economics of it comes into play.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Now they battling, you see what I'm saying? And now
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: it goes, right? You know, and then, you know, there's
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: the other part, man. So all the white boys up
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: in ways, from what I've seen on the internet and
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: in documentaries.
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I've seen Yellowstone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: get real mad up there.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Y'all are not here for being tread upon. Is that
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: how they put it?
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: I believe that is what that has been co-opted to make.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, buddy. And I tell you this, too.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: You better not try to carjack none of them. Oh, no.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: They ready.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: All right, we got two more.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: Hi, Bo.
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: This is Doug from Tokyo. Long time person. I wanted
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: to call about that throwback Tuesday.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: The USC-Texas game.
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: I am an Oregon alum. I was in school for
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: that 2005 season, and of course the Pac-10 had the
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: perfect round robin series at that time, so we played USC.
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: That was a huge game.
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: Students had to line up for tickets, and it was
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: a mile long, so that was dropped on Tuesday or
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: Wednesday that week. And then we got our doors blown off, 45-13.
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: and sending from the student section, seeing Reggie Bush in
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: person was not fair. 2005, for the younger viewers, was
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: also when YouTube came out, and one of the first
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: things we went to see on YouTube was the Reggie.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: Bush high school highlights. I think those are probably.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: Still up, and those are still a treat. But as
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: an Oregon fan, seeing Reggie Bush play in person, and
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: then the next year seeing Adrian Peterson, members of boys
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: in the college game at a university that's supposed to
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: be injecting all this money into the Completely unfair.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: We did have a squad in 2005. We went 10-1.
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: Actually, 10-2 with the offseason and lost to both Reggie
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: Bush and Adrian Peterson. I guess that's how it goes.
• 55:59
  Speaker 8: Thanks.
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: Love the show.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, boy. Like, that was the thing. He said it
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: before I could. That Oregon team was actually pretty good.
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, those early, you know, mid-2000s Oregon teams.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, they should have won the national title in 07.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, until Dennis Dixon got hurt. Yeah.
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: Um.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: But he also brought up something, and that was real.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: There was the Reggie White YouTube take.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: Reggie Bush.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Reggie Bush, big difference.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Although, can you imagine if there was a high school
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Reggie White take?
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: No.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: But there was also the Noel Devine take, which came
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: out around a similar time, and that was comedy.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Like, literal comedy.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: It was like watching iJob off of, whatchamacallit, James Bond.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: In a good way, though.
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah. All right, Bo, here's our last one.
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: Hey, Bo Money.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: This is Will from Oklahoma City.
• 56:54
  Speaker 6: I was just calling. So one of my favorite bits
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: on the show is, say, people whose names may not
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: match exactly what you're expecting. So, for example, like Federal
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: Reserve Chair Jerome Powell would be one. But I want
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: to make a submission. I found a new one the
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: other night. So, uh, I'm pretty plugged in with the
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: NBA and I'd heard this name floating around during like,
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: I don't know, I guess whenever this dude got drafted
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: or just here and there. Um, but I'm watching the
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: Thunder Jazz the other night. And, uh, this is the
• 57:35
  Speaker 6: first time I'd ever seen Bryce Sinsabaugh. Um, and, uh,
• 57:43
  Speaker 6: that was not what I expected. I love the show.
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: Keep up the good work. Also, shout out White Monty.
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: I got an uncle that's White Monty.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: Bye.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Actually, I got to say, Bryce Sensabaugh is checking in
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: exactly as I thought.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Because every Sensabaugh I've ever heard of is a professional athlete,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: and they are black. There was one that played in
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: the NFL and went to Carolina named Gerald Sensabaugh. He
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: is good friends with my buddy Michael Felder, and I'm
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: just here to tell you there's no question about where
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Gerald Sensabaugh falls in line.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Also, I feel like we have taken Bryce.
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: You have taken– I mean, that might be a two
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: Americas taking Bryce.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Ah, you got a good point. You got a good point.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: You know what? He's Bryce with an I and not
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: a Y.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: That's a good counter.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: So I can see it. But yeah, the sense of ball,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: I can see being ours. By the way, I meant
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: to bring up white Jerome Powell.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in the news. Yeah, in the news.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Because word on the street is that Trump is trying
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: to put this man under... He's the chairman of the
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Federal Reserve. And he's not even trying to put him
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: under indictment for actually stealing money. It's for a renovation
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: of a building, right?
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: Which.
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: is ironic, also given, you know.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: That's a great point. Like, anytime something like that.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Happens, I'm like, does Trump remember that Jerome Powell is
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: who he is, right? Or is he assuming it's another Jerome,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: and therefore he's just going with the standard playbook, except
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Trump be trying to throw white people in jail, too.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: He's the guy that's like, I'm not racist. I just
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: hate people. But hey, ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: for joining us here on The Right Time. We do
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: this four days a week. Ryan Brumley handles everything behind
• 59:21
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• 59:26
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• 59:30
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• 59:32
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• 59:34
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• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Take it easy.