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Speaker 1: East the reform it.
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Speaker 2: Tonight's some big things to get through, like Donald Trump's
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Speaker 2: debate with Kamala Harris today. It didn't go as expected
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Speaker 2: at all.
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Speaker 3: They're eating the pets of the people that lived there.
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Speaker 2: But also tonight I have astonishing new information. Thirteen years
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Speaker 2: ago two of my articles were banned after I said
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Speaker 2: this woman and some others had chosen to identify as Aborigines.
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Speaker 2: This said the judge was racist and offensive. They were
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Speaker 2: born Aboriginal. It was a huge case that scared people
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Speaker 2: out of calling out the fakes and how the truth
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Speaker 2: is coming out. I feel I was stitched up. More
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Speaker 2: on that later and a horror pole for Victoria's labor
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Speaker 2: governments that tie now too neighbor throughout the country. But first, now,
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Speaker 2: what we saw in Melbourne today is the rot that's
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Speaker 2: now in Australia's second biggest city, the intellectual, cultural and
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Speaker 2: moral decay of Melbourne. As protesters came out of the
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Speaker 2: Fitzroy sharehouses, the Northcok cottages, to fight the police, to
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Speaker 2: attack police horses, to throw manure at them, to block
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Speaker 2: the cars and busses of people with real jobs and
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Speaker 2: real work to get to to Heckle journalists and pose
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Speaker 2: like so called freedom fighters in their black masks and
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Speaker 2: kefirs and to abuse and assault people just trying to
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Speaker 2: get to an exhibition of the latest military weapons. What
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Speaker 2: a selfish, bullying, ignorant rabble tribalists. People angry that the
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Speaker 2: world isn't paying them respect them big bucks for their
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Speaker 2: ba in gender studies or colonialism. People angry at a
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Speaker 2: society that rewards talents just worked out they don't have
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Speaker 2: it and what are the city? But Melbourne produces the
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Speaker 2: kind of mob we saw today. It's Melbourne that is
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Speaker 2: the most radical branch of the outlaw Sea of Emia Union.
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Speaker 2: It's Melbourne that is the ABC's most left wing radio station.
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Speaker 2: It's Melbourne that is home to the ACTU. It's Melbourne
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Speaker 2: that is the most leftist artist one right now is
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Speaker 2: even holding an exhibition starring the red triangle that AMAS
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Speaker 2: terrorists use to identify their death targets. It's Melbourne that
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Speaker 2: has the biggest Anti Australia Day protests. It's Melbourne that
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Speaker 2: is also the most politicized legal system, where Cardinal George
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Speaker 2: Pells jailed for a crime you could not possibly have committed.
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Speaker 2: And it's Victoria that has lost the connection between cause
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Speaker 2: and consequence. Banning gas exploration on land, running out of
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Speaker 2: it all who thought of it and now is the
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Speaker 2: biggest debt of any state. It is where woke rules
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Speaker 2: and brutally now worn last night, today's protests would not
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Speaker 2: be what you're told by reckless Screens leaders and by
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Speaker 2: one of the protests organizers identifies as Palestinian refugee, a
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Speaker 2: Palestinian Syrian one notheless and blame the police for the violence.
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Speaker 4: People want peace, not war, and this is a demonstration
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Speaker 4: for peace.
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Speaker 5: We are seeing the use of excessive force and weapons
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Speaker 5: to control crowds which have been very clear from the
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Speaker 5: beginning that we are peaceful peace.
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Speaker 2: This protest was never meant to be peaceful.
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Speaker 6: We spoke to some of the organizers yesterday who said
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Speaker 6: that we want to see this a peaceful protest.
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Speaker 5: It's going to be a peaceful protest.
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Speaker 6: But it was clear from the start that it was
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Speaker 6: never going to be a peaceful protest. We saw from
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Speaker 6: around seven am the protests had.
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Speaker 5: Only been going since six am.
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Speaker 6: And already people were throwing paint across an overtowel building
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Speaker 6: across trying to get our cross.
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Speaker 5: The convention center buildings.
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Speaker 6: So that was the start of what was going to
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Speaker 6: be an escalation.
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Speaker 2: The victorious police chief said the same.
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Speaker 7: They came with intent to provoke, to attack. What we
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Speaker 7: saw today was not peaceful.
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Speaker 2: So no, this was not a protest against violence, and
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Speaker 2: nor was it a protest against all weapons. I think
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Speaker 2: it was just against weapons that democracies need to defend
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Speaker 2: themselves against the tyrannies now in the march Russia and China,
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Speaker 2: and the Iranian back terraces of Gaza, the Huti rebels.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you just to look at the flags that
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Speaker 2: were being flown today, the Palestinian ones, the red of
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Speaker 2: the Marxists, even the flag of Russia. For not one
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Speaker 2: flag of any democracy. There were no calls that I
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Speaker 2: heard for Russia to be demilitarized, none for her mass,
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Speaker 2: none for China. And you know, people who want peace,
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Speaker 2: they wouldn't be violent themselves, and people against war wouldn't
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Speaker 2: be on the side of the war mongers were silent,
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Speaker 2: those warmongers who threatened us and furious that we now
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Speaker 2: dare to arm ourselves to defend our freedom. But there
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Speaker 2: they were today and where else but in Rotting Melbourne.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now is Ron Dean, editor in chief of
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Speaker 2: the Spectator of Australia, now under new management by the
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Speaker 2: Way new owners and hosts of Outsiders on Sky News
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Speaker 2: every Sunday at nine am. Ron Dean the Melbourne protests Today,
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Speaker 2: thirty nine protest is arrested. What does all this tell.
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Speaker 8: You, Well, Andrew, I'm still recovering from your description of Melbourne,
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Speaker 8: which I'm sadly have found to be pretty accurate. So
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Speaker 8: I'm kind of relieved by the city here in Sydney.
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Speaker 8: But unfortunately, Andrew, it's not just Melbourne. We saw in
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Speaker 8: Sydney some of the vilest protests on October eighth, long
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Speaker 8: before they had the excuse of the Gaza War, within
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Speaker 8: hours of the vilest atrocity since the Holocaust were being committed.
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Speaker 8: We had here in Sydney there at the Opera House,
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Speaker 8: sorry they're at the Opera House. You had mob screaming
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Speaker 8: where's the Jews, arguably screaming gas the Jews whatever, equally
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Speaker 8: vile comments and the police did nothing to stop them.
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Speaker 8: And this is the problem here, Andrew. You reap what
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Speaker 8: you sew now what you've talked about the violence and
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Speaker 8: the disgusting behavior in Melbourne today well, this has been
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Speaker 8: encouraged by our leaders by the political leadership, by the
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Speaker 8: leadership of our authorities whose job it is to retain
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Speaker 8: law and order. Since October seventh, they have been turning
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Speaker 8: a blind eye to, or certainly treating with kid gloves
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Speaker 8: many of the pro Palestinian slash Hamass protesters. And I'd
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Speaker 8: make the point that it is getting increasingly difficult to
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Speaker 8: draw a distinction between pro Palestinian protests and those who
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Speaker 8: support her mass. But anyway, that's a discussion for another day.
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Speaker 8: But these protests have seen have increasingly been violent, increasingly
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Speaker 8: been aggressive, and yet the Melbourne Police and the Sydney
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Speaker 8: Police would have done. They've wandered around arresting Jewish couples
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Speaker 8: who wanted to attend a meeting, wandered around arresting a
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Speaker 8: Jewish man for carrying a Jewish flag, wandered around telling
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Speaker 8: someone else not to wear the small Jewish cap on
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Speaker 8: the head because it might inflame the crowds. So we've
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Speaker 8: at the same time as a lack of leadership from
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Speaker 8: the law enforcement authorities, we have had a grotesque lack
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Speaker 8: of leadership. In fact, the very opposite from the federal government,
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Speaker 8: from Penny Wong from Anthony Alberanisi and the rest of
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Speaker 8: them who have made it clear that their sympathies, if
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Speaker 8: they are going to lie anywhere, don't lie with the
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Speaker 8: Jewish State. And if their sympathies lie anywhere, it is
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Speaker 8: with those who are pro Palestinian. And they have turned
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Speaker 8: a blind eye and repeatedly I believe, through lack of
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Speaker 8: strong moral leadership, encouraged these protesters to believe they were untouchable.
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Speaker 2: Andrew, well, you know you mentioned the Palestinians. Surely it's
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Speaker 2: now becoming obvious to many Australians what the Palestinian caused. Now, well,
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Speaker 2: let me put it this way. There were so many
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Speaker 2: Palestinian flags at this rally, protests, this violent protest, it
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Speaker 2: all is adding to massive embarrassment for the Palestinian cause
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Speaker 2: it's being associated with terrible behavior. And I think fairly
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Speaker 2: or not a lot of Australians will be saying, we're
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Speaker 2: getting a taste of what Israel's up to and where
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Speaker 2: do they stand now on israel I suspect that they
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Speaker 2: had a lot more sympathy.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, you know what are these protesters protesting about.
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Speaker 8: If you go into it's Okay, they claim to be
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Speaker 8: protests against the atrocities that they believe to be occurring
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Speaker 8: in Gaza. They accused the Israeli Defense Force of genocide,
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Speaker 8: and so on and so forth. Weirdly, these same protesters
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Speaker 8: have never raised a little finger about against the far
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Speaker 8: greater number of people being literally murdered and genuine genocide
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Speaker 8: throughout the Middle East and Africa by Islamis terrorists. They've
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Speaker 8: never raised their voice against, for example, the Christians being
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Speaker 8: murdered throughout Africa in Islamic countries. But they seem to
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Speaker 8: be focus on this one particular issue, and yet they
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Speaker 8: won't even find it within themselves to condemn what happened
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Speaker 8: on October seventh, and Andrew. The bottom line here is
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Speaker 8: that Israel must defeat Hamas. And the problem is our
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Speaker 8: political leaders refuse to acknowledge that we had this week.
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Speaker 8: We had Penny Wang saying, oh, well, I support the
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Speaker 8: British government for not selling more arms to Israel. All
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Speaker 8: you are doing by saying we will not sell arms
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Speaker 8: to our ally, our most important ally in the Middle East,
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Speaker 8: is you are saying we want you to surrender. We
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Speaker 8: want you to give up to the butchers of Hamas.
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Speaker 8: We want you to say, yeah, it's okay if October
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Speaker 8: seventh happens again. The bottom line is Hamas must be destroyed,
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Speaker 8: and they must be destroyed by Israel with the full
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Speaker 8: support of Western nations, because it is up to us
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Speaker 8: to ensure that our allies are not subject.
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Speaker 1: To primitive, medieval butchery.
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Speaker 8: Of the vilest kind that we saw on October seventh.
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Speaker 2: Andrew Well said, Rowan Well said, and may you prosper
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Speaker 2: under the new ownership of the guy that.
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Speaker 1: Runs from strength to strength.
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Speaker 4: Don't you worry?
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Speaker 8: Andrea spectators going to strength.
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Speaker 2: High hopes, high hopes. Rowan, thank you so much for
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Speaker 2: your time. I've got to say, by the way, the
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Speaker 2: Victorian Greens, I mean the Greens Party generally, I think
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Speaker 2: is an abomination. And I've said a number of times
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Speaker 2: now Labor has to stop giving them preferences, stop helping
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Speaker 2: them get elected into parliament. The Victorian Greens, would you
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Speaker 2: believe this? Actually had the hide today to demand an
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Speaker 2: inquiry into how police acted at the protest, claiming no,
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Speaker 2: we're too rough. The police chief wasn't impressed. That's rubbish.
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Speaker 7: We have conducted ourselves appropriately.
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Speaker 1: We have conducted ourselves properly. I couldn't be prouder.
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Speaker 7: Of the officers down there, and to see the way
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Speaker 7: they used restraint when confronted by people intent on provoking
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Speaker 7: violence and using violence.
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Speaker 2: I say, if there's going to be an inquiry, it
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Speaker 2: should be into parties like the Greens, which helped get
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Speaker 2: people to this violent protest addicted to be violent. Let's
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Speaker 2: not pretend you know, oh, who would have thought, here's
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Speaker 2: Green Senator Jordan Steel John.
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Speaker 9: If you want to be a part of it, if
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Speaker 9: you want to join with them in calling this out,
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Speaker 9: then please go to our bio where you will find
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Speaker 9: a link to the protest pages where you can find
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Speaker 9: out how to be involved. Whereas Greens will always be
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Speaker 9: the party of peace.
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Speaker 2: The Greens, I have never known them to be this radical,
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Speaker 2: this extreme, and I think the heat has to go
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Speaker 2: on Labor. You cannot make a preference deal with this
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Speaker 2: party now. After the break, Donald Trump as his first
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Speaker 2: debate with Kamana Harris and with two hostile moderators all
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Speaker 2: at the same time. So how did he do well?
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Speaker 2: Trump's forms spokesman and Trump's best zinger in the debate.
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Speaker 2: After this, Donald Trump hoped to destroy Kamala Harris in
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Speaker 2: there one and probably only debate before America's presidential election.
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Speaker 2: But the former president struggled earlier today against they will
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Speaker 2: rehearsed Harris and two very hostile debate hosts. This was
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Speaker 2: about his best moment, Harris unable to give a straight
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Speaker 2: answer to the key question for many Americans struggling with
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Speaker 2: the cost of living.
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Speaker 10: We have inflation like very few people have ever seen before,
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Speaker 10: probably the worst in our nation's history.
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Speaker 2: We were at.
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Speaker 10: Twenty one percent, but that's being generous because many things
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Speaker 10: are fifty, sixty, seventy and eighty percent higher than they
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Speaker 10: were just a few years ago. This has been a
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Speaker 10: disaster for people, for the middle class, but for every class.
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Speaker 10: On top of that, we have millions of people pouring
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Speaker 10: into our country from prisons and jails, from mental institutions
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Speaker 10: and insane asylums, and they're coming in and they're taking
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Speaker 10: jobs that are occupied right now by African Americans and
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Speaker 10: Hispanic and also unions. She just started by saying she's
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Speaker 10: going to do this, She's going to do that, She's
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Speaker 10: going to do all these wonderful things. Why hasn't she
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Speaker 10: done it?
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Speaker 2: That sounds all right, but this was almost Trump's worst
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Speaker 2: moment when Harris hid him on a stand on abortion, a.
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Speaker 11: Twelve or thirteen year old survivor of incest being forced
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Speaker 11: to carry a pregnancy to term. They don't want that.
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Speaker 11: And I pledge to you, when Congress passes a bill
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Speaker 11: to put back in place the protections of Roe V.
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Speaker 11: Wade as President of the United States, I will proudly
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Speaker 11: sign it in to law.
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Speaker 2: And this was perhaps even worse when Trump still wouldn't
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Speaker 2: admit it lost the last election.
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Speaker 11: Perhaps we do not have in the candidate, to my right,
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Speaker 11: the temperament or the ability to not be confused about fact.
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Speaker 11: That's deeply troubling.
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Speaker 2: Now it's true that Kamala Harris just talkting well, rehearsed slogans,
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Speaker 2: little stories, and almost no policies. And it's also true
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Speaker 2: that the hosts were incredibly biased. Boy did they help her.
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Speaker 2: They kept steering the conversations conversation to topics that were
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Speaker 2: bad for Trump and corrected him at least four times.
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Speaker 2: Although I have to say Trump was a fool to
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Speaker 2: give them the chance, like when he launched this attack
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Speaker 2: on illegal immigrants slid in under Harris in Springfield.
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Speaker 3: They're eating the dogs.
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Speaker 2: The people that came in.
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Speaker 3: They're eating the cats, they're eating They're eating the pets
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Speaker 3: of the people that lived there.
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Speaker 12: ABC News did reach out to the city manager there.
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Speaker 12: He told us there had been no credible reports of
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Speaker 12: specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by
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Speaker 12: individuals within the immigrant community.
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Speaker 1: All I've seen people on Tellien.
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Speaker 3: Let me just say this is the people on television.
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Speaker 3: My dog was taken and used for food.
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Speaker 2: On the other hand, those moderators did not fact check
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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris even once for all her falsehoods that which
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Speaker 2: he falsely claimed Trump called fascist good people. She falsely
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Speaker 2: claimed that he threatened a blood bath if he wasn't elected,
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Speaker 2: Or this about the January sixth protest of the Capital
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Speaker 2: that she blamed on Donald Trump.
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Speaker 11: On that day, one hundred and forty law enforcement officers
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Speaker 11: were injured and some died.
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Speaker 2: Complete myth. In fact, the only person killed was a protester.
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Speaker 2: Joining me is Shawn Spice of the first White House
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Speaker 2: spokesman when Donald Trump was president. Sean Spice is great
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Speaker 2: to see you again. How do you think the debate went?
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Speaker 13: Look, I think President Trump landed a couple of blows
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Speaker 13: in this thing. Early on, he really got the messenger
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Speaker 13: of immigration and the contrasting of his record versus hers.
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Speaker 4: This was a thirty on one debate.
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Speaker 13: I've been saying for a while I thought ABC had
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Speaker 13: gotten the memo that they had to do everything to
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Speaker 13: come after Trump. I hate to say I was right,
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Speaker 13: but I was the issues and I was writing these
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Speaker 13: things down. January sixth, Obamacare race, climate change, no discussion tomorrow.
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Speaker 13: By the way, Andrew is nine to eleven here in
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Speaker 13: our country, a day that will live in infamy in
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Speaker 13: our country, and not one question about our military, our
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Speaker 13: national security, the fight against terrorism.
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Speaker 4: It was unbelievably tilted against Donald Trump by ABC.
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Speaker 13: News and the moderators. For those people who are watching them,
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Speaker 13: might remember Candy Crowley. She was a former CNN host
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Speaker 13: who very infamously played the role of fact checker during
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Speaker 13: Mitt Romney's debate with Obama. Well, David Mirau did her tonight.
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Speaker 13: The fact checking, which was false, was so one sided
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Speaker 13: it was literally Their attempt to go after Trump was
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Speaker 13: like nothing I've ever seen before in modern history.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and absolutely no fact checking of Kamala Harris, who
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Speaker 2: probably told even more whoppers. I thought it was incredible.
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Speaker 2: What did you think the best moment for Harris was?
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Speaker 13: You know, I think she she landed a couple of
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Speaker 13: lines where she got him to talk. So right out
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Speaker 13: of the gate, Harris was asked this question about our
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Speaker 13: you know, our Americans four years for four years later,
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Speaker 13: are they better off or not? That classic Ronald Reagan question.
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Speaker 13: She avoided the question, and then Trump took the bait.
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Speaker 13: I think right off the bat, he should have said,
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Speaker 13: my record as president was X, yours is why this
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Speaker 13: is why you're not better off, and.
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Speaker 4: Why we should go back to my leadership.
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Speaker 13: He started talking about, you know, her issues that that
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Speaker 13: she had brought up, and again she even talked about
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Speaker 13: her passion for small business. Uh, she's never actually held
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Speaker 13: a private sector job. This was an opportunity for Trump
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Speaker 13: the businessman, to talk about again his record, So right
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Speaker 13: off the bat, I think it was interesting how she obfuscated,
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Speaker 13: but he missed I think a couple of key opportunities
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Speaker 13: where he really could have hammered home her extreme positions,
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Speaker 13: the record of her, and frankly, her lack of any
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Speaker 13: kind of private sector experience was a big contrast with him.
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Speaker 2: I totally agree with you there. He was too often
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Speaker 2: on the back foot, as you say, pushed there a
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Speaker 2: lot by the hosts. But what was his best moment.
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Speaker 13: I think his best moment to you, to be honest
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Speaker 13: with you, is right at the end, he said, you've
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Speaker 13: had three and a half years and you haven't done it.
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Speaker 13: I wish that line had come a lot earlier. He
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Speaker 13: closed the debate strong, and I really loved how he
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Speaker 13: did it. I wish that he had brought that line
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Speaker 13: up a lot earlier in the debate. That was I
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Speaker 13: think the quintessential moment where he's contrasting her role in
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Speaker 13: this administration and his record as four years of president.
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Speaker 13: I think he hit a really strong on immigration. I
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Speaker 13: think he had a couple witty lines in there where.
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Speaker 4: He taughtked about.
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Speaker 13: There was one where he said run, spot run, another
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Speaker 13: one where he kind of used that infamous line that
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Speaker 13: she used on Vice President Pinster and the vice president's
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Speaker 13: debate where he said quiet, I'm talking. There were some
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Speaker 13: funny lines in there, so he got some good policy
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Speaker 13: issues in there. He got some good sort of fun zingers,
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Speaker 13: but those were I think, like I said, I really
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Speaker 13: thought his final line, you've had three and a half
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Speaker 13: years and you haven't gotten it done with what I
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Speaker 13: would have liked to have seen earlier, because that was,
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Speaker 13: to me, the quintessential moment.
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Speaker 2: Totally agreed on that. I thought he saved his best
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Speaker 2: for the very very last and he must hope that
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Speaker 2: people who are still watching then, but talking about.
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Speaker 13: And that's the key there, Andrew, But that's the key
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Speaker 13: is That's why I was saying, it's unfortunate because yes,
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Speaker 13: a lot more people will watch the online version and
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Speaker 13: some of the clips, but I think it came really late.
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Speaker 13: It was almost eleven o'clock Eastern Standard time here in
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Speaker 13: the US, So I just I hope enough people stayed
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Speaker 13: up to watch it.
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Speaker 2: Well, we're not sure about that. I do think, like
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Speaker 2: I say, he was quick on his feet. You mentioned
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Speaker 2: Singer's I thought this exchange was pretty funny. Is pretty
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Speaker 2: inconsequential maybe, but pretty funny about Trump's huge rallies.
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Speaker 11: Have you listened, What you will also notice is that
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Speaker 11: people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom.
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Speaker 11: And I will tell you the one thing you will
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Speaker 11: not hear him talk about is you. You will not hear
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Speaker 11: him talk about your needs, your dreams and your need
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Speaker 11: and your desires, and I'll tell you, I believe you
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Speaker 11: deserve a president who actually puts you first.
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Speaker 10: And people don't go to her rallies, there's no reason
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Speaker 10: to go.
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Speaker 3: And the people that do go, she's busting him in
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Speaker 3: and paying them.
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Speaker 2: Look quite a good comeback. But again, Sean, he was
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Speaker 2: defending himself. He was not saying what he'd be doing
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Speaker 2: for others.
21:57
Speaker 13: Yeah, and that's a good point that you're making. Wish
22:00
Speaker 13: that he had pivoted and said, because I've listened to
22:03
Speaker 13: these rallies all the time.
22:04
Speaker 4: He does talk about that.
22:05
Speaker 13: He talks about safety and security and prosperity and bringing
22:08
Speaker 13: back more wealth to this country, bringing back manufacturing jobs.
22:12
Speaker 13: Those are obviously all major issues inflation and the impact
22:15
Speaker 13: that it's having on American families. So clearly that's where
22:19
Speaker 13: I would have said, pivot back on the fact that
22:21
Speaker 13: it's under you, it's under your policies, man and vice president,
22:25
Speaker 13: that people are feeling the pain, They're having a harder
22:28
Speaker 13: time making ends meet, aying the bills, putting groceries in
22:32
Speaker 13: their refrigerator every week. I think he focused on the
22:36
Speaker 13: rally itself versus the message, and that was probably another
22:40
Speaker 13: missed opportunity.
22:43
Speaker 2: Now, there were two things today that could change the
22:47
Speaker 2: campaign the outcome. One was this debate, which will probably
22:52
Speaker 2: be the only one at Kamena Harris is given just
22:55
Speaker 2: one debate, no press conferences and one's series, only one
23:01
Speaker 2: sit down interview with journalists, and that is after what
23:04
Speaker 2: is it seven weeks or something's outrageous. So there's been
23:08
Speaker 2: this debate. And the other thing was Taylor Swift, the
23:12
Speaker 2: megastar pop icon figure, said she's going to support Kamla Harris,
23:18
Speaker 2: and she posed with a cat as a gibe. But
23:22
Speaker 2: Jade Vance, a Trump's running mate, having a dig at
23:26
Speaker 2: childish cat ladies. Of the two things, what is the
23:31
Speaker 2: most going to have the most effect and how will
23:34
Speaker 2: they affect the campaign?
23:38
Speaker 13: It's an interesting question. I think the debate was largely
23:40
Speaker 13: a push. Donald Trump had let more people obviously know
23:44
Speaker 13: about him no where he stands.
23:45
Speaker 4: He'd been president.
23:46
Speaker 13: They weren't looking to find out much about him. I
23:48
Speaker 13: think most Americans have a sense of who.
23:50
Speaker 4: He is and what he's going to do.
23:51
Speaker 13: She had a lot more to lose in this debate.
23:53
Speaker 13: I don't think she did herself any big harm. I
23:55
Speaker 13: don't think she helped herself, So the debate is probably
23:58
Speaker 13: a push Taylor Swift thing. Look, I don't think it
24:02
Speaker 13: was any secret based on Taylor Swift's previous political activity
24:07
Speaker 13: where she stood in this race, I don't look.
24:11
Speaker 4: She is very popular, There's no question about that. I
24:14
Speaker 4: don't want to deny that anything.
24:15
Speaker 13: But I don't know how many people look to Taylor
24:17
Speaker 13: Swift to decide how to vote, And if they do,
24:20
Speaker 13: I think they were probably already with Harris. So I
24:24
Speaker 13: would kind of say both of them are a push
24:28
Speaker 13: and it was weird, though, I will tell you if
24:31
Speaker 13: you're Taylor Swift, I'm not sure this was the night
24:35
Speaker 13: to do that. Meaning if you really wanted to have
24:37
Speaker 13: an impact, throwing it in at almost midnight Eastern Standard time,
24:41
Speaker 13: where it's going to get mixed into a bunch of stories,
24:45
Speaker 13: is not going to have any real impact because tomorrow
24:48
Speaker 13: morning and throughout the day here in the US, we'll
24:50
Speaker 13: be talking about the debate. So it might be a
24:52
Speaker 13: footnote and by the way, kind of like you just
24:54
Speaker 13: did now. Oh by the way, after the debate, she
24:57
Speaker 13: and her cat photo endorsed Kamala har If she had
25:00
Speaker 13: done this two days from now, it would have been
25:02
Speaker 13: a standalone story and I think potentially more impactful.
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Speaker 2: Look, it's just been such an amazing, amazing election campaign.
25:11
Speaker 2: I think it's the first one that onlyone's ever discussed
25:13
Speaker 2: it in Cats and Dogs and Our Taylor's swift Sean Spicer,
25:19
Speaker 2: It's just that's unbelievable. And we've still got nearly two
25:24
Speaker 2: months ago. So there you go. Sehn Spicer, thanks for
25:27
Speaker 2: your time.
25:29
Speaker 4: Always a pleasure. Andrew, thank you.
25:32
Speaker 2: After the break thirty years ago, I was sooned after
25:36
Speaker 2: saying that this woman had chosen to be aboriginal. I
25:40
Speaker 2: was censored by a judge. I was abused as a
25:42
Speaker 2: Nazi in our stunning new evidence that makes me feel
25:47
Speaker 2: I was stitched up. I've learned something extraordinary. As I
25:54
Speaker 2: say to me, it now seems I've been stitched up.
25:58
Speaker 2: A judge fed of fakes story that led him to
26:01
Speaker 2: impose a very damaging censorship. Thirteen years ago, a socialist
26:07
Speaker 2: activist called Pat Etoch sat in a courtroom and told
26:10
Speaker 2: Justice Mordy Bromberg what new evidence tells me he was
26:14
Speaker 2: a tall tale, A key part of the evidence that
26:17
Speaker 2: he used to actually ban two of my Herald soun
26:20
Speaker 2: articles from being republished in a shocking attack on our
26:24
Speaker 2: free speech. Etoch told Bromberg I had intimidated and humiliated
26:29
Speaker 2: and insulted her by writing that she was a white
26:32
Speaker 2: Aborigine who'd chosen to call the self aboriginal when she
26:37
Speaker 2: plainly had other choices. Now. Etoch's barrister, former Judge Ron Merkle,
26:41
Speaker 2: then read out her statement. This is, according to Etoch,
26:46
Speaker 2: I am an Aboriginal person with Aboriginal ancestry. My grandmother,
26:51
Speaker 2: Lucy Etoch, was born in Carnavan Gorge in Central Queensland
26:55
Speaker 2: in eighteen seventy four. This is an Aboriginal birthing place.
26:59
Speaker 2: She was of the Kiri people. My grandmother's mother was
27:02
Speaker 2: an Aberiginal woman called Kitty. My grandmother's husband, my grandfather,
27:08
Speaker 2: was an Aboriginal man, Bill Etok. If only I had
27:13
Speaker 2: known then what I know now about every one of
27:16
Speaker 2: those statements. Having gone through the evidence, he himself no
27:21
Speaker 2: doubt believed this barrister of pat Etock in this case,
27:27
Speaker 2: Merkle smeared me as a Nazi like person for doubting
27:31
Speaker 2: the genuineness of people like Etok was the lead plaintiff
27:35
Speaker 2: in this action on behalf of nine fair skinned aboriginals
27:40
Speaker 2: that I'd written about now disbarrassed claim that my kind
27:43
Speaker 2: of thinking actually led to the Nuremberg of race laws,
27:46
Speaker 2: the Nazi ones, and even Hinter that I could inspire genocide,
27:49
Speaker 2: adding the Holocaust in the nineteen forties started with words
27:53
Speaker 2: and finished with violence. It was a disgusting smear. But
27:58
Speaker 2: etok one Justice Bromberg banned my two articles, ruling I
28:03
Speaker 2: had racially discriminated against the top for saying, among other things,
28:08
Speaker 2: she had had a choice how to identify himself. No
28:11
Speaker 2: she didn't, he insisted, nor had the others in the
28:14
Speaker 2: case they were born Aboriginal, born Aboriginal. Yet etoch yourself
28:20
Speaker 2: had talked about not identifying as Aboriginal until after the
28:24
Speaker 2: teenage years.
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Speaker 14: And John Lewis was on the radio and he said
28:29
Speaker 14: something that was really, really racist, and she picked it
28:33
Speaker 14: up and added to it, and I said, hey, hey,
28:38
Speaker 14: you can't say that I'm aboriginal, you know. And this
28:42
Speaker 14: was the first time I made a statement about on
28:46
Speaker 14: a average and I haven't took that point in time,
28:50
Speaker 14: you know, it had never it was a part of me,
28:54
Speaker 14: but it was down.
28:57
Speaker 2: But this judgment against me was momentum. The whole proceedings,
29:01
Speaker 2: because since there are very few journalists, almost none at all,
29:05
Speaker 2: seeing what has happened to me, have dared to question
29:08
Speaker 2: the white aborage, and he's now increasingly found in politics
29:11
Speaker 2: or universities, even ones with not one known Aboriginal ancestor
29:15
Speaker 2: according to a review of their genealogical records, like Professor
29:18
Speaker 2: Bruce Pascoe, like Professor Kerry Doyle, like South Australia turned
29:22
Speaker 2: General Kay and Mara, and many others I've since named.
29:26
Speaker 2: And it's no wonder journalists don't dare go where I went,
29:30
Speaker 2: because who wants the risk being damned as a Nazi
29:33
Speaker 2: and a racist? Certainly not the barrister had by my
29:37
Speaker 2: newspaper at the time. I've often blamed myself for not
29:39
Speaker 2: pushing him even harder to challenge Etok's story, because his
29:42
Speaker 2: cross examination of her ended where it should have started.
29:46
Speaker 2: We read it out to you, my barrister asks Etok,
29:50
Speaker 2: some of your relatives do not identify themselves as Aboriginal
29:54
Speaker 2: as you do. Etok, that's right, my barrister. I've made
30:00
Speaker 2: different decisions about their aboriginal identity. And Etok says that's right.
30:06
Speaker 2: Embarrasses says then says nothing further and sits down. But
30:12
Speaker 2: now I've learned why. It's no surprise that most of
30:15
Speaker 2: Eto's relatives do disagree with her and did last month.
30:19
Speaker 2: I did what I didn't realize was possible thirty years ago.
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Speaker 2: You can blame me. I asked professional genealogists of Roger
30:26
Speaker 2: Carter's brilliant Dark youexpose dot org website to check Etok's
30:31
Speaker 2: family tree. The results should embarrass everyone who used the
30:36
Speaker 2: tox story to censor the debate on people choosing to
30:41
Speaker 2: identify as aboriginal. Now should first day add a disclaimer
30:45
Speaker 2: here maybe those genialities made mistakes, although I've got to
30:49
Speaker 2: say Cargo's website has now uncovered many people, including Bruce Paska,
30:53
Speaker 2: who wrongly claimed to the Aboriginals not being faulted once.
30:57
Speaker 2: And you know, maybe Eto yourself on a believed some
31:01
Speaker 2: old family gossip that she perhaps then spun into proof
31:04
Speaker 2: that she was aboriginal genuinely. I don't know, but here
31:08
Speaker 2: is what those genealogists found, which you can now read
31:12
Speaker 2: in massive detail of the next three days on the
31:14
Speaker 2: Darking you exposed dotal website, Every one of those etop
31:19
Speaker 2: claims that have quoted earlier on are false according to
31:23
Speaker 2: the available records. Of course, Etok is now dead can't respond,
31:28
Speaker 2: but not one of her ancestors was aboriginal. Her grandmother, Lucy,
31:34
Speaker 2: wasn't born in an aboriginal birthing place in Carnavan, Gorge,
31:39
Speaker 2: but at her parent's home in Spring Shore, one hundred
31:42
Speaker 2: and eighty kilometers away, according to a birth certificate. That
31:46
Speaker 2: certificate also shows that Lucy's mother wasn't an Aborigine woman
31:49
Speaker 2: called Kitty, but a Scottish woman called Jane, who was
31:52
Speaker 2: attended at the birth by a doctor and a midwife.
31:57
Speaker 2: Lucy also didn't look aboriginal. She looked like a carbon
32:01
Speaker 2: copy of a Scottish mum. Nor are there any records
32:04
Speaker 2: of this Kiri tribe she apparently belonged to. None, nor
32:10
Speaker 2: any record of an Aboriginal girl called Kitty, who seems
32:13
Speaker 2: to be an invention inspired by a Tonguan girl called
32:17
Speaker 2: Lizzie or Takraw, who was taken in by Lucy's parents
32:20
Speaker 2: for a few years after Lucy's birth. Nor was Etok's
32:26
Speaker 2: grandfather Bill an aborigine. Etoch made a false conclusion simply
32:30
Speaker 2: from the color of his skin. In fact, the genealogist
32:33
Speaker 2: found a missing birth certificate showing that Bill's father was
32:38
Speaker 2: Richard Rose, who came from Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
32:42
Speaker 2: in the West Indies, had a brief affair here with
32:45
Speaker 2: a married white woman. Now this Richard Rose turned out
32:49
Speaker 2: to be the son of a British slave owner and
32:51
Speaker 2: an African. He inherited money when his father died and
32:55
Speaker 2: sailed to Australia to become Etoch's aboriginal ancestor pat ETOs father.
33:02
Speaker 2: When I say Aboriginal, try African American or wester Indian
33:07
Speaker 2: American Black. So the conclusion is ETOs genealogy shows she
33:12
Speaker 2: should never have been allowed to bring her case against
33:15
Speaker 2: mem If this genealogist correct, she had no legal standing
33:20
Speaker 2: in the case since she wasn't aboriginal. And I was right,
33:24
Speaker 2: more right than I knew then to say she had
33:27
Speaker 2: just chosen to be aboriginal. Now joining me is Roger
33:35
Speaker 2: Karchho's head of Darkinuexposed dot org, whose genialgist helped him
33:39
Speaker 2: to research pat etox background. Roger Cars, thank you so
33:44
Speaker 2: much for your time. Are you confident in your findings?
33:48
Speaker 2: What steps did you take?
33:52
Speaker 1: Landra?
33:52
Speaker 15: This was a she's only got a very short family tree,
33:55
Speaker 15: so it's not that complicated.
33:57
Speaker 1: But the critical thing with this.
34:00
Speaker 15: No one knew could find a birth certificate for her grandfather,
34:05
Speaker 15: William Etok.
34:07
Speaker 1: So because there's no birth certificate.
34:09
Speaker 15: All these theories came out that you know, he was
34:11
Speaker 15: a stolen Aboriginal child, this, that and the other, but
34:14
Speaker 15: no one could prove it. But we've actually found that
34:16
Speaker 15: birth certificate. And no one's ever found the William Etock
34:20
Speaker 15: birth certificate because it wasn't one under the name of
34:23
Speaker 15: William Etok. He was born under the name of William Rose.
34:27
Speaker 15: And the moment you have that birth certificate, that suddenly
34:31
Speaker 15: cements a lot of things because you know, he's called
34:34
Speaker 15: William Rose, his mother was called Catherine Davison.
34:38
Speaker 1: His father then becomes Richard Rose.
34:40
Speaker 15: Because he's on the birth certificate, so then you can
34:42
Speaker 15: follow the Richard Rose line.
34:45
Speaker 1: And so that's why we think we're right.
34:46
Speaker 15: We're the first people in Australia to discover the birth
34:50
Speaker 15: certificate of a man who became William Etock because he
34:54
Speaker 15: was born William Rose and no one ever found that before.
34:57
Speaker 15: But it's there in the records and the Queensland records.
35:01
Speaker 2: And why does it matter, Well.
35:04
Speaker 15: It matters because everyone because this man pat Etox says
35:08
Speaker 15: he had a very dark face, right, So she's just
35:11
Speaker 15: assumed that in Australia, if you've got a very dark face,
35:16
Speaker 15: you must be Aboriginal. But she's made a fundamental error.
35:19
Speaker 15: There's lots of dark faced people in colonial times who
35:22
Speaker 15: were from the West Indies from UK though had to
35:26
Speaker 15: come out of Jamaica and to the UK into Australia, and.
35:29
Speaker 1: So she's made a fundamental mistake.
35:30
Speaker 15: So because he's called William Rose, he's got a dark face.
35:35
Speaker 15: His father Richard Rose. If you go and look at
35:38
Speaker 15: his marriage certificate he's later one. It says he's born
35:41
Speaker 15: in the West Indies. So if he's born in the
35:43
Speaker 15: West Indies and he's got a dark face, there's a
35:46
Speaker 15: good chance he's related to he's become out of a
35:50
Speaker 15: West Indian slave environment. And once you get his name,
35:54
Speaker 15: you know he's in the West Indies, from a little
35:55
Speaker 15: island called Bequay in Staint Vincent's. You go there and
35:59
Speaker 15: you find all the red cards for Richard Rose, who
36:01
Speaker 15: was the son of William Rose, the planter Richard Rose
36:05
Speaker 15: in Australia put on his marriage certificate. My father was
36:08
Speaker 15: William Rose, a planter, and if you're a planter in
36:12
Speaker 15: the West Indies, more than likely you're a slave owning planter.
36:16
Speaker 15: You know, Richard Rose was born I think eighteen thirty four,
36:19
Speaker 15: eighteen thirty one, so that slavery is still going on then.
36:22
Speaker 15: And then he puts his mother name is Harriet Williams.
36:25
Speaker 15: And you look up all the list of slaves on
36:28
Speaker 15: that particular plantation and there's Harriet, right. He hasn't got
36:31
Speaker 15: a surname, but her first name is there, and so
36:35
Speaker 15: that's how you connect it all. Now it's not you know,
36:37
Speaker 15: it's ninety nine point nine percent accurate.
36:40
Speaker 1: And we don't know.
36:41
Speaker 15: Maybe there's aboriginality in pad Eto's family because someone had
36:45
Speaker 15: an affair with an aboriginal person, or there was a
36:48
Speaker 15: child adopted and that was not recorded. But if no
36:52
Speaker 15: one could prove evidence that that happened, our evidence is
36:55
Speaker 15: the strongest, and that's why we say she had no
36:59
Speaker 15: average and other through her grandfather, William Etock, who was
37:03
Speaker 15: born William Rose.
37:07
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny, this confusion happens more more often
37:10
Speaker 2: than people will admit or no, Roberta. Sykes, the very
37:14
Speaker 2: famous so called aboriginal activist so to be the first
37:17
Speaker 2: Aboriginal to go to Harvard, was in fact the daughter
37:23
Speaker 2: of an African American. The same with Madruu Narrogan formerly
37:28
Speaker 2: known as Colin Johnson, the famous author who did a
37:32
Speaker 2: book that's ready being read by generations of school kids.
37:36
Speaker 2: Again you know, not Aboriginal at all, African American. How
37:43
Speaker 2: is it then that pad Etock could go through life
37:46
Speaker 2: claiming to be Aboriginal, being accepted as Aboriginal, being vindicated
37:51
Speaker 2: in court as Aboriginal, treated by journalists as Aboriginal, yet
37:56
Speaker 2: still not be Aboriginal, gets away with it to the
38:00
Speaker 2: end of her life.
38:03
Speaker 15: For the same reason that Bruce Pasco wrote his book
38:06
Speaker 15: and said Aboriginal people were farmers, and hundreds of thousands
38:10
Speaker 15: of people bought the book, not because only because they
38:15
Speaker 15: wanted Aboriginal people to be farmers, not that they didn't
38:19
Speaker 15: worry about the evidence, but they wanted that narrative.
38:22
Speaker 1: Same as pad Etock.
38:23
Speaker 15: There are so many people in the world, so many supporters,
38:27
Speaker 15: who wanted her to be Aboriginal, because then she could
38:30
Speaker 15: go to the She was quite eloquent, she could go
38:33
Speaker 15: to the ten Embassy, talk to the press, stand for
38:36
Speaker 15: parliament in I think canber elections as an aboriginal because
38:40
Speaker 15: at that time in the seventies, people wanted Aboriginals to
38:44
Speaker 15: get on in the world. Pad Etock walks through the
38:47
Speaker 15: door and says, I'm aboriginal. I'm willing to go into Parliament.
38:50
Speaker 15: I'll help you set up the ten Embassy. I'll go
38:52
Speaker 15: on all these conferences and Aboriginal. She's eloquent, and they say,
38:56
Speaker 15: I'll tick the box because this is how it works,
38:58
Speaker 15: the same as Eric Wilm. Eric Wilmont is there exactly
39:01
Speaker 15: the same time saying, oh I'm aboriginal. Oh here's a job, mate.
39:04
Speaker 15: You're aboriginal and very eloquent. People at the end of
39:08
Speaker 15: the day, they're not Aboriginal.
39:13
Speaker 2: Roger Cash, this case, I think scared a lot of
39:17
Speaker 2: people out of asking the questions. They saw what happened
39:20
Speaker 2: to me. I thought it was well, it was devastating
39:23
Speaker 2: for me personally, but also I thought it was devastating
39:25
Speaker 2: for free speech. I think through your research, I think
39:30
Speaker 2: we've got a firmer case for saying, listen, free speech
39:35
Speaker 2: must be allowed to prevail in this area. So thank
39:39
Speaker 2: you so much, indeed for your time and for your efforts.
39:43
Speaker 1: All right, thanks Andrew.
39:46
Speaker 2: I just misspoke there, I said before Colin Johnson later
39:51
Speaker 2: known as Madru and I Rogan the novelist. His father
39:54
Speaker 2: was African American. Was his grandfather's where he got the
39:58
Speaker 2: color from that people thought, oh Aboriginal after the break
40:02
Speaker 2: one of today's silliest protesters. And why Melbourne's decline is
40:07
Speaker 2: now a threat to Anthony Alberanezi, who, by the way,
40:11
Speaker 2: has had a little remarkable property benefit to have it
40:14
Speaker 2: looked after this, I mentioned Melbourne once the cultural capital
40:23
Speaker 2: becoming now a cultural slum. Rinneev was one of those
40:27
Speaker 2: protesters today. She's a deacon, university student and a leader
40:31
Speaker 2: of students for Palestine. Got that whole leftist vibe going
40:35
Speaker 2: clenched fist kafir the militant fist again with Race Baty,
40:39
Speaker 2: Senator Lydia Thorpe and other Victorian of course, and she
40:43
Speaker 2: was today chanting from the river to the sea in
40:45
Speaker 2: effective call for the end of Israel. She was asked
40:48
Speaker 2: about that chant on three at.
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Speaker 9: W have you chanted from the river to the sea
40:53
Speaker 9: Palestine will be free this morning?
40:55
Speaker 1: Yes, we have what do you mean by that.
40:57
Speaker 12: We mean the right of learned for the Poalestinians.
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Speaker 6: It's a chance associated I'm with the shovel of the
41:03
Speaker 6: Palestinians to be able to return to their forum.
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Speaker 2: Do you know which river and which sea you're changing about?
41:09
Speaker 4: Yeah?
41:10
Speaker 2: What are they?
41:12
Speaker 10: The Jordan Ravia and the Red Sea.
41:16
Speaker 2: She didn't even know exactly where this Israel was. That
41:20
Speaker 2: she's so sure is awful. That is so so Melbourne
41:24
Speaker 2: and even Victorians are now getting sick of this wider
41:28
Speaker 2: culture of decline, the arrogant ignorance. A new Resolve poll
41:32
Speaker 2: shows a massive fall and support for Victorian labor over
41:35
Speaker 2: the past the year. It's for other reasons too, you know,
41:37
Speaker 2: particularly financial incompetence, and this is terrible news for the
41:41
Speaker 2: Albanezy government as well. Joining me at Cameron Milner used
41:44
Speaker 2: to be chief staff to then Labor leader Bill Shorten,
41:47
Speaker 2: now is now Director of GXO Strategies and Michael Cossla
41:50
Speaker 2: forming New South Wales Labor Treasurer. I have to ask you, Cameron.
41:56
Speaker 2: A month ago, Labor held every government on this mainland.
42:00
Speaker 2: Now it's lost in the Norn territory. It's about to
42:02
Speaker 2: lose Queensland it's looking grim and Victoria and Labor federally
42:07
Speaker 2: is on the nose. Victoria now looks like a state
42:09
Speaker 2: that could actually lose federal seats in the next selection
42:13
Speaker 2: and custs the Albanezy government. The whole commoodle ab kicking
42:17
Speaker 2: out of power? Is that?
42:18
Speaker 1: Is that?
42:18
Speaker 2: How uc it?
42:19
Speaker 16: I do actually, Andre and you and I have spoken
42:21
Speaker 16: about this. I mean, the challenge for Peter Dutton isn't
42:24
Speaker 16: about winning all the Teal seats back. I mean that's
42:26
Speaker 16: a false dawn that the ABC and the left media
42:28
Speaker 16: want to set up for him. All Dutton needs to
42:30
Speaker 16: do is win seats directly off labor, and Albert's serving
42:33
Speaker 16: them up on a planter right now. He's not fighting
42:35
Speaker 16: the cost of living. So seats like McEwan ast and Chisholm,
42:38
Speaker 16: there's a whole series of seats in Victoria that could
42:40
Speaker 16: easily flip from Labor to Liberal and make it that
42:43
Speaker 16: much harder for Labor to maintain majority, and that give
42:46
Speaker 16: Peter Duntet that much more closeness to winning in his
42:49
Speaker 16: own right. So I think there's a real problem for
42:51
Speaker 16: labor and brand Labor outside Peter Malinowskus in South Australia
42:56
Speaker 16: like Chrispin's, but outside Peter Malanwskus is dreadful and I
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Speaker 16: think the common threat on all this is actually Albanese.
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Speaker 16: It's not the state premiers, it's Albanese. It's poisoning the
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Speaker 16: labor primary vote across Australia.
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't some of the premiers are helping you.
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Speaker 2: You're right about Malelanowskas. I like Chris Mins, but also
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Speaker 2: Western Australia's looking little dodgy as well. How do you
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Speaker 2: see it, Michael Costa.
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Speaker 17: Well, I disagree with Cameron on this. I mean, certainly
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Speaker 17: Albanese's performance has been appalling on a range of issues,
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Speaker 17: but I think you're dealing with long term labor governments
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Speaker 17: that had relatively popular leaders that have moved on, and
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Speaker 17: I think that's primary the reason they're in trouble. But
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Speaker 17: underlying that, of course is cost of living, and both
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Speaker 17: the state governments and the federal government really have made
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Speaker 17: a mess of the current economic situation. But I think
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Speaker 17: people will vote on the basis of those state issues.
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Speaker 17: They're not silly enough. That doesn't mean they won't take
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Speaker 17: the baseball back to Albernize if they get a chance.
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Speaker 17: As well.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it cruels his act a little bit too,
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Speaker 2: takes away resources from labor. I mean that's plainly. You know,
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Speaker 2: they don't have the staffers that don't have the Greek chorus,
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Speaker 2: sorry Michael, Greek chorus set up when they lose governments.
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Speaker 2: But speaking of that, the cost of living thing at Cameron,
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Speaker 2: you've got the Ambanies government, you know, still blaming the
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Speaker 2: Reserve Bank and Governor Michelle Bullert personally for hurting the
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Speaker 2: economy with their high interest rates, which are meant of
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Speaker 2: course to tackle the high inflation. Labor President Wayne Swan
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Speaker 2: on the weekend last Friday claimed the bank was punching
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Speaker 2: itself in the face. Now, The ABC reports that one
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Speaker 2: senior labor figure described the bankers barbarians and weirdos in
44:43
Speaker 2: the thrall of a bizarre group think, and called Bullock
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Speaker 2: a nutter Treasurer. Jim Chalmers today said well, no, no, no,
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Speaker 2: this was nothing to do with him here is.
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Speaker 16: I completely and utterly disagree with the comments.
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Speaker 2: What do you think going on here?
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Speaker 16: Well, Jim is entirely embarrassed by his father figure, Wayne Swan,
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Speaker 16: I mean Wayne Swan is has been looking for a
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Speaker 16: headline Andrew has been looking for a headline. This guy's
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Speaker 16: like the proverbial uncle stumbling around in a blue Safari
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Speaker 16: suit at the wedding. You know, people are looking for
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Speaker 16: where the microphone is. What's he going to say next
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Speaker 16: to Andrew? What's he going to say next?
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Speaker 12: Look?
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Speaker 2: I mean that stuff about.
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Speaker 16: Michelle Bullock, though, was misogynistic and vile bile from Wayne Swan.
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Speaker 2: He should be talking about women that way.
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Speaker 16: He said the same thing about Daniel woods Is the
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Speaker 16: Productivity commissioner as well, said about other women as well.
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Speaker 16: I mean Wayne is at his worst when he's the
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Speaker 16: most misogynistic and nasty, and we're seeing that in public
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Speaker 16: and it's embarrassing for Pearl.
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Speaker 4: Jim.
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Speaker 16: Jim Chalmers is being loyal to Wayne, but Wayne is
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Speaker 16: doing him a massive disservice with the constant stuff that
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Speaker 16: he's going out there. As I said, seeking a headline
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Speaker 16: for it has been.
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Speaker 2: Well what do you make of it, Michael, Because the
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Speaker 2: former Reserve band governor in Lowe was really made a
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Speaker 2: hate figure and escapegoat by labor. They pointed Michelle Bullock,
45:58
Speaker 2: thinking she was one of them. Now she's really being
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Speaker 2: set up.
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Speaker 17: Well, look, she's just doing her job, and remember, as
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Speaker 17: I said last week, it's actually the target she's trying
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Speaker 17: to achieve is one that she signed off with Jim Charmers.
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Speaker 17: But I think Cameron's being a bit disingenuous here. Remember
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Speaker 17: who started all this. It was Jim Charmers with the
46:16
Speaker 17: Reserve Bank smashing the economy, and clearly why someone has
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Speaker 17: just jumped on the bandwagon and all these nameless fools
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Speaker 17: in the caucus spreading nonsense as well. The bottom line
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Speaker 17: here is I think they're frustrated because they had a
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Speaker 17: political strategy, not an economic strategy, to go to an
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Speaker 17: early election to avoid a budget next year, and that
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Speaker 17: budget now looks more and more likely because the interest
46:40
Speaker 17: rates aren't going to come down and that budget will
46:42
Speaker 17: deliver deficits and deficits also fuel inflation. And the bottom
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Speaker 17: line is they're tracked. Their political strategy was too clever
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Speaker 17: by half, and now they're wearing the consequences and they're
46:53
Speaker 17: lashing out across the board because they can't get their
46:56
Speaker 17: political way. It is embarrassing.
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Speaker 2: And looks Cameron, the Prime Minister himself, is doing all
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Speaker 2: right from all this. If there's someone cruising through, he's
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Speaker 2: put his Dulge investment property up for sale for one
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Speaker 2: point nine million dollars. It's just an investment property that
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Speaker 2: would give him a profit over the last nine years
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Speaker 2: more than seven hundred thousand dollars. Good on him, no problem.
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Speaker 2: What's moral here?
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Speaker 1: Oh?
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Speaker 16: Look, how to totally tone deaf from the Prime minister.
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Speaker 16: He's our thirty three billion dollar fund that spent three
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Speaker 16: billion dollars and hasn't built one house one house in
47:36
Speaker 16: two years, and yet he can make a super profit
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Speaker 16: in his own home because he's brought all the migration in,
47:41
Speaker 16: brought it brought the huge demand of the market, pumped
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Speaker 16: the prices up. I mean he's sat on a twenty
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Speaker 16: two percent profit in dulit Chill in the last year
47:47
Speaker 16: as people demand property in Australia to find a roof
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Speaker 16: over their head. Look, I wish he'd been doing more
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Speaker 16: a housing affordability MORTI housing supply rather looking after win
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Speaker 16: for profits for mister Albinize.
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Speaker 2: Michael, I've only got half a minute. What do you
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Speaker 2: make of this?
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Speaker 17: I think camera's being a bit harsh. I mean most
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Speaker 17: of that windfall was under the Morrison government. Remember that
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Speaker 17: they brought immigration in. And he's entitled as a landlord
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Speaker 17: to sell an investment property. And we've got to be
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Speaker 17: faired income here. I criticize his policies, not the individual.
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Speaker 17: There are hundreds and probably thousands of people Michael, Michael with.
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Speaker 16: Thirty three billion dollars a taxpayer's money, not one house,
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Speaker 16: not one house.
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Speaker 17: But that's in competence, totally, incompetence, totaland commerdence, Michael. But
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Speaker 17: he's entitled as a private citizen to sell a home
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Speaker 17: and make a profit based on.
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Speaker 2: The market condition, the timing.
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Speaker 16: Michael's the timing, and for most period the timing couldn't
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Speaker 16: be worse for labor.
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Speaker 2: It just shows how tone is.
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Speaker 4: But he's getting seeing in the position of discussion.
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Speaker 2: But I've got to go to Henry Milner Michael Costin.
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Speaker 2: Thank you both for your time. That's it from me now,
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Speaker 2: Sherry markson good note,