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Writing Nonfiction Books Can Boost Your Biz with Melody Ann Owen · The One Small Change Podcast

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  Guess what? It's time for the One Small Change podcast, and
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  I'm thrilled to embark on this journey of exploration
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  transformation with you. Again, I'm your host, Yvonne McCoy, and
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  I bring almost 30 years of entrepreneurial experience,
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  the good, the bad, and the ugly, and a passion for discovering growth through
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  the power of seemingly small change. So I wanna thank you
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  of coming on this journey with us and spending some time because I know there
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  are lots of places where you could spend your time. This week,
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  we are talking with Melanie Owen, and she's
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  gonna share how a smaller unexpected change
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  sparks something remarkable, in her personal or private
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  life. So, Melanie, thank you for being here
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  today. Thank you, Stephanie.
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  Tell my audience what you do and, you know,
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  take them on your amazing journey. Sure. Absolutely.
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  So what I do, I do a lot of things. I love to hike, in
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  my personal life and in my
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  professional life. I am the founder of an organization called Author
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  Nation where we support nonfiction authors to
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  write and publish and integrate a nonfiction
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  book into their life and their business. So that's the that's the short
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  version. So how did you get
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  there? I mean, you didn't you weren't born going, I'm gonna help people write
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  books. No. I was not born with that. But
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  I think it was always in me somewhere. And,
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  you know, I I I think that I credit what I do
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  to my my deep my deep connection to storytelling.
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  And I actually think as humans, we all have a deep connection
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  to storytelling. But we're often trained or
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  educated out of it. Right? It's like information, facts,
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  information, facts. But I have this this deep connection to
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  storytelling that I never lost. And it's helped me a great
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  deal in my life, you know, when I when I need to reframe
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  the story. Like, things are happening and I'm feeling
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  lost, like I'm at sea and I'm in an ocean with with, you know, a
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  storm and you feel like you're just being taken away
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  by this storm, what I do is I sit down and I say, let's
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  reframe. Let's put me as the captain of the ship and I get to
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  decide how I can't stop the storm, but I get to
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  decide how I'm going to maneuver through the storm
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  rather than being in a lifeboat or without any boat at all being tossed
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  around by the big waves. I have to I I'm sorry. I have to
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  tell you that you're you're really speaking my language. Mhmm. Because
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  one of the things that I talk about is, dead
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  reckoning, which is a sailing term. And it was and it was
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  when, you know, we didn't have all the electronics from the old days, and
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  sailors would pick a point in the distance that there was their
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  destination so that they could maneuver the currents and the wind. You couldn't go
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  in a straight line. I mean, when I finally realized that
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  going in a straight line was never gonna happen, I was always gonna be, you
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  know, having to self correct, and that was normal and
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  good, it made a huge change for me. So that
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  that part of your language is amazing to me. I mean, that
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  really connects with me. The other thing that you said that is
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  so on target, I think, is that I
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  think we are all yearning for connection, and we
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  are past the point of just getting facts because facts
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  are everywhere. What we want is how to implement that and
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  how does it tie into our life. So I didn't mean to get you off
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  track, but it's like, oh my god. This is why we're talking.
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  Yes. Exactly. And and you're right. It it's just because
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  you're the captain of the ship doesn't mean that you can control everything and you're
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  going to have a linear line. You're still you still might be in a storm.
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  Right? And you still might be currents as you say. So thank you for for
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  extending that metaphor. I I absolutely love that.
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  Yeah. So and I one small change. I'm I'm gonna just kind
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  of give you give you my one small change because I think it really integrates
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  into this. And it's to celebrate the small
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  stuff. Right? Celebrate
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  the small stuff. I can't tell you how that changed my life.
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  We are told that we don't celebrate unless we won the
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  race. We're told we don't celebrate until until we get to
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  the destination. And I 100% disagree
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  with that. I think we celebrate those little
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  steps we take. And especially when you're writing a book. Can you imagine not
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  celebrating until you've actually published and sold a 1000000 copies?
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  Right? No no one would write a book. So when I'm working with my clients,
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  we have a practice of celebrating the small stuff. You know, what
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  did you get done? You got you got that section of that chapter done today.
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  That's awesome. You finished a chapter this week. That's awesome.
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  Awesome. You you set up your author page on Facebook.
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  Wonderful. It doesn't matter if you have followers or not. Right? And I I'll give
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  you a little story. I had I was working with one client who was setting
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  up her email list. So she set it up, and she sent it out to
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  a few friends. And and she had, you know, 20 followers in her
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  you know, 20 email subscribers. And I said, well,
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  start sending out emails. She said, well, I don't really have enough subscribers yet. And
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  I said, no. No. No. No. No. You've won. You have an email list. You
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  have 20 subscribers. You send it out. And at the end of it,
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  you say, if this you if you know someone who might be interested in
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  this, pass it on. And then she did that, and she said, well, I
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  have 25 subscribers. And, of course, you do. Because instead of saying it's
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  not good enough yet and I shouldn't celebrate and I shouldn't move forward, we
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  celebrated. We picked the next step. We didn't worry about the number of
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  email subscribers on your list. And that is how she's building
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  her email list. 5, 1, 10,
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  3 subscribers at a time. And instead of waiting to
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  arrive at this grand destination, she's celebrating
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  each step along the way. And it just feels so much better, and it gives
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  you this motivation. It helps cut down procrastination,
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  and it and it just it yeah. Celebrate the small stuff,
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  Yvonne. Again, I absolutely agree with
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  you. And, you know, a lot of the lessons that I
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  got that have helped me on my entrepreneurial journey are
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  the same lessons that I got when I lost a £150.
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  And, you know, you look at it and you go, I need to lose a
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  £100, and you just, you know, you quit before you even start. I mean,
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  it's just so daunting. And so, you know,
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  what I would what I what I when I was coaching that and what I
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  would say to myself is, what's the amount of weight that I
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  have lost over and over and over again? And it was
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  like £25. It's like, okay. I'm gonna divide this into
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  4 £25 segments because I know I can do
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  this. I've done it before. And I what I say to
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  people is celebrate your progress. Celebrate the
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  doing. Right? Yes. So, you know, it it and this
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  came up again the other day because,
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  when I was teaching money management, I would say to people,
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  it doesn't matter how much you save. It's the act of
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  saving. If you can save 10¢, then you can say I'm
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  a saver. Right? And that builds confidence till you can
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  save $10, then you can save a $100.
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  And so the act of doing it, the
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  progress, celebrating the progress builds confidence.
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  And and not only that, I think one of the the things that people
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  neglect is as you celebrate your progress,
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  it gives you credibility and it says to other people you can do it
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  too. Absolutely. You know, I'm not I'm not
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  finished, but I'm getting closer to my goal. And I
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  think that's so important because I think,
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  particularly in entrepreneurship, there's this sense of
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  I have to be an expert, and I'm not an expert yet, and I'm not
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  ready. And one of the small changes that happened for me was
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  somebody said, there's always gonna be somebody who's better than you,
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  and there's also always gonna be somebody who wants to be as good as
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  you. You know? So you're there. You're the expert
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  for the person who wants to be as good as you. And by celebrating
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  that journey, you show people how it's possible.
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  Yes. Yes. Absolutely. And I'll give you a a a personal story around
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  around the small stuff. Please do. Please do. I was talking to my one of
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  my daughters, yesterday, and she was at work and she was
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  in a meeting and somebody said something. And have you ever been in a meeting
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  and somebody said something and all of a sudden you're like right? And
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  you don't even know what to see back and and you just, like, you felt,
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  you know, attacked or unheard or or something.
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  Right? Something has happened. You've had this strong reaction, and you
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  don't say anything in the meaning. And you walk out and you're upset with
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  yourself and you think, you
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  know, terrible me. But when I was younger,
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  in my family, conflict didn't happen. My father is
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  king and you never spoke back. Conflict did
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  not happen. So I grew up not understanding how to
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  engage in constructive conversations, not being able to
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  speak up for myself. I had a lot of obstacles.
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  And at some point, I thought, well, you can stay as you are or you
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  can just try. And so I you know,
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  the first time I spoke up for myself, I blurted something out that I
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  didn't even know what came out of my mouth. I felt horrible. I walked away.
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  And I said, okay. But you spoke up.
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  It went terribly, but you spoke up. So
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  celebrate that. And then I would celebrate speaking up. I
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  didn't get anything because I was still so I was just a bundle of
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  nerves, and I couldn't I could barely get the words out, but I did it.
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  And very slowly, I learned not
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  only how to speak up, but what to say, how to respond,
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  you know. And then so yesterday when I was talking to my youngest daughter and
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  she said I had this experience, I said, yeah. I relate to that.
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  I've had that experience. And and each
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  time, you're gonna take a small step because you you've come
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  she's still in university. You're, you know, you're still in this place where, like, all
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  these authority figures. Right? So it's always your boss telling you something
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  that that is hard. But slowly, you are going to
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  learn. So just next time it happens, just breathe. Don't even say
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  anything. Just, like, recognize it and deal with the emotion. That's
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  it. And then the time after that, maybe you'll be able to speak up. And
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  it's a step by step process in life. Right? You're not all of a sudden
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  a leader and an amazing communicator. This is
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  something we built. Right? So small it's I celebrated
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  the small successes, and and my daughter came to me because she sees
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  me as a really good communicator. And I said, yeah. But I used to be
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  where you were. Right. Right. Right. And and you know what? For
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  me, you know, conflict again was not
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  I mean, I don't think we are we we are
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  raised in you know, our limiting
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  beliefs partially come from, you know, our parents wanna protect us.
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  Like, don't say anything that's gonna get you in trouble. You know, be seen
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  but not heard. You know, that that kind of whole thing.
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  Right? And for me to speak up for myself,
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  you know, we were like the one black family in in a in a white
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  community, so we were told to be better than everybody else but not to
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  be, you know, to keep your head down kind of. And so for
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  me to speak up for myself was really, really hard,
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  and it started with first making
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  this decision that I was gonna tell people when I was
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  uncomfortable. And typically, it didn't happen at the moment.
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  Sometimes, I would come back 2 weeks later and say, I have to
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  tell you this, and it's really for me to let
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  you know that this made me uncomfortable, or I'm
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  sorry that I was angry with you. I mean, and and I I'll never
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  forget, but I said to my supervisor once, I am really
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  sorry that I spoke to you so, you know, in such an angry
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  way. And she goes, that was angry?
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  But for me, it was like, oh, that, you know. Yes. So it got
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  to it didn't take me 2 weeks. It only took me a week, and then
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  it only took me a day. And then it was like, wait, I don't
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  feel right. I need to say something about this. Or even
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  to say, I don't know what it is that I'm feeling, but something's not
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  right. Yeah. You know? And so yes. And you celebrate
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  the fact that you've gotten better
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  at what you're doing. And I think the thing that makes it hard
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  is that as you this is a really
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  weird phenomena, but as you grow in in the
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  entrepreneurial world and probably in personal life too, as you grow
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  and you take on new challenges, right, there's kind of that
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  feeling of of uncomfortableness because you're taking on something
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  new. And, you know, as you're, like, excited
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  that it's happening, something that you think you have totally
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  under control falls through the crack.
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  Yes. Because you kinda don't know how they're connected. So you look at
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  something and go, I've done this I've done this three times, and this has never
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  happened. What is going on? Yes. Do you
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  know what I mean? So being able to reframe it
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  as, you know okay. So here's, like, a really
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  personal story. I think I was on the
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  verge of a a nervous breakdown at one point and, you know, I was working
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  with my therapist and, you know, really hit hit a really
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  important point. And I think I cried for 24
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  hours straight. I mean, I just really I went to
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  bed. I, you know, I cried all day. I went to bed crying. I woke
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  up crying. And I when I when I talked to I called her
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  up and I go, I'm a mess. And she
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  said, your pain is normal. And I was like,
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  what? She said, your pain is normal. And I
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  was like, if this is normal, what does crazy look like? I mean, you
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  know? But what she was saying is this is the normal part
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  of the process. And so
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  making mistakes and, you know, having things fall apart
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  is a normal part of the process of growth. I
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  mean, we are not meant to be perfect. We're meant
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  to keep moving forward and make progress. So can we
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  talk a little bit more about books, which is your specialty?
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  And, you know, who who
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  like I say, I'm a speaker not a writer, and I talk to people
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  about using their strengths. And so my
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  question partially is, you know, the higher level is, as an entrepreneur,
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  why do I wanna have a nonfiction book? And then for those who us who
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  feel we're speakers, you know, how does that fit into
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  or possibly fit into our overall, you know, what we could be
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  doing? Yes. Absolutely. So first of
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  all, I'm never gonna convince anyone they need a book. That's
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  not what I do. I want to help people who who they
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  know they want a book. Right? And so if someone came to me and
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  said I think I need a book, I would, you know, but I don't know
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  why. I'm I would like, okay. Let's let's figure out whether you really want one
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  or not. So this whole you must have a book
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  isn't, you know maybe that's not your thing. Right? So
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  so maybe you have another plan and that works well for
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  you. So first off, you know, don't listen to the hype. Right?
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  So when you decide you want a book, then then that's great. So some
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  reasons why people might want a book. So if you have a
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  speaking career, for example, going into a
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  speaking gig and being able to say, you know, hey. Come up
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  afterwards, and I'll, you know, I'll give you a first chapter of my book.
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  And then getting them on your email list. And now you have the
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  talk that you gave that you can write emails about and this
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  book. And the book has more than one chapter. So, like, have you read the
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  first chapter? Would you like to know more about it? You know, you can so
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  so it's a conversation builder. Right? And they may
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  you may sell the book or you may give away the book. It doesn't
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  matter. What matters is that you have this longer
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  term, this is how the book fits into my business.
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  So if you have a speak if, you know, if you have a
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  speaking career that's linked to, group
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  coaching or course, you know, getting
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  on stage and saying, okay. So now I have this course. Go buy it. That
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  may not work. But a book may link those two things.
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  So if you're interested in in, you know, what I'm saying, I have
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  a book. I have a table at the back. Come talk to me. I'm happy
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  to give you the book. I'm happy to give you the ebook. I'm happy to
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  give you the first chapter. I'm up to whatever, you know, whatever is you know,
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  I I'm not I can't tell you what the plan should be. It's
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  something I work out with each client on, you know, what they have to
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  put together. So that might be a reason you want a book.
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  Another reason you might want a book. Some people can use
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  a book as a launchpad to a podcast or a series
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  of events. So I have, someone recently launched a
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  book. And now she's doing monthly events based
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  on each chapter of the book. So each chapter has a theme. And now she
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  does monthly events so people can come and talk to her about
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  that particular thing. And if they're in they if they like that, they can move
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  into her coaching program. Another reason you might want to write
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  a book. You might say, you know, Amazon is this huge
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  search engine. And of course, if I don't have anything on there,
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  no one can find me there. So I'm actually going to write
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  a book that is good for
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  Amazon search engine. So and I'm not saying you can't write one book that
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  can't do a variety of things. I'm what I'm saying is if you're
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  thinking about, oh, maybe I should write a book, the question is, you
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  know, why? How is this gonna fit into my life? That's the
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  very first question you need to answer before you answer anything
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  else. And if you say, oh, I'm a speaker, and I wanna link
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  this book with the people I'm speaking to at conferences with my
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  courses and coaching, now we're like, okay. So in that case, who's my
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  audience? Well, it's the people who like to go to conferences. Right? It's not the
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  people who want to search on YouTube or Amazon. It's people who go to
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  conferences. Okay, so now I know who my reader is. I can get
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  really targeted in the content. And maybe it's a really
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  short 100 page book. Maybe that's all it needs to be and I give away
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  the whole book. And that leads me to a
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  conversation with them through email, which eventually leads to them joining my
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  program if that's a match. Does that make sense, Yvonne? It absolutely does.
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  I mean, I think, you know, one of the things that I say is
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  you need to know your why. I mean and, again, I go back to weight
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  loss. I mean, I knew how to lose weight and what to
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  do, but it wasn't until I had a big enough
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  why that I was willing to do it. It wasn't until I found out I
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  was gonna be a grandmother for the first time that I said,
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  wait. What kind of grandmother do I wanna be? I wanna be an
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  active grandmother. I wanna do things with my grandchild, you know, and
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  I could barely walk up and down the stairs. So I had a big enough
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  why to say, I wanna be able to go to the beach. I
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  wanna be able to do these things. I mean, I knew all the things
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  that I actually had to do. You know, you get I mean, the the the
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  equation is incredibly simple. You actually eat less than you know, you
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  burn more than you eat. Right? And so,
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  you know, you're saying, you know, I think starting with purpose. I mean, I
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  just did this with with kind of my 3 p's, which is
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  purpose, procedure, personal, and proactive. So if
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  you don't know what your purpose is, you don't know your why, then you don't
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  know in in the case of writing the book what needs to be in the
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  book and who you're writing it for. Right? And then, you know, you take
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  a look at your audience and what what they need and what they tend to
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  go towards and then proactively kind of what they need next.
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  You know, what they'll need what they need before and what they need after your
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  book so that you can tie it all into how you how you place
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  it. So Yeah. You and I are like I mean, this is probably
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  the deepest conversation we've had, but we have so much in common.
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  We do. Yeah. And you're can I can I add
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  just add a little something to it just before we move on? And
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  so and so if you think about it, it's a really good analogy for the
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  book. Because in in the book, you need meaning for yourself, but you need meaning
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  for your readers. For your weight loss, just like
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  writing a book, just losing weight, that's not enough. There has to be, as you
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  say, purpose or meaning behind it. And for you, there was meaning for
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  you being the best grandmother you could be. But
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  there's also meaning for your audience, your your grandchildren.
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  Right? They're they they gained meaning. They gained something
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  out of it as well. And so same when you're writing a book. There's meaning
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  for you, the author, but there's meaning for the reader as well. And once you
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  had once you had your purpose, your meaning, it was a lot easier
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  to do. So people are like, I wanna lose weight. They often don't lose weight.
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  There's no meaning or or, you know, purpose behind it. Same with people who wanna
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  write a book. I wanna write a book. There's no meaning or purpose behind it.
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  So when I start with the authors, we start with that, and there's a
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  lot more motivation. It's so much easier to get it done. Right?
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  So I I wanna take that kind of into entrepreneurship.
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  So I I did a chapter in, one
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  of those collaboration books, and it was so funny
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  because I just wanted this to be, like you you know, it was gonna be
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  probably the and in my brain I said, this is gonna be the only thing
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  I write. I want this to go down in the ages. It was, like,
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  you know, a really heavy thing. And somebody
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  said to me and I and I work you know, it's like from the
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  a year from the time I said I would do it, I think I had
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  3 sentences. And I kept going back and changing them.
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  And somebody a very good coach said to me,
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  you know, how do you like to communicate? And I said I like to speak.
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  He goes and record it. Yes. Which I did, and it
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  took me a day and a half. But the but the real the real
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  switch was not only how I did it, but why
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  I did it. I you know, he goes, what is it that you wanna accomplish?
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  I said, I want it to be for managers
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  so that they can have a simple way that they can remember
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  how to get out of chaos and focus.
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  And so out of that came a system that I call
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  steps. So it's stop, think
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  about, you know, what you've accomplished. Right?
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  T is what do you wanna get done. E
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  is evaluate the difference between where you are, where you
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  wanna go. P is have a plan, but know that you
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  need to have a plan b as well. And the s is
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  success, celebrate your progress.
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  Yes. So that came out of my my book, you know, that
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  do doing that chapter, and it only took a day
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  and a half to record it where I could not write it at
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  all. Just so we don't run out of time, and
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  I I feel like we could chat for
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  give me a couple of action steps that that Yes.
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  Our listeners can, you know, can do. Yes. So
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  I'll I'll do that in 2 pieces. So And your freebie. And also your freebie.
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  Don't forget that. Absolutely. So if you're not
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  used to celebrating the small stuff, at the end of every day,
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  sit down and say, what did I do today? What actions did I
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  take, and how can I celebrate taking those actions? Very simple.
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  At the end, I have I have a to I have a done list.
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  Instead of a to do list, I have a done list. And so, you know,
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  that's one action you can take is just write down all your accomplishments that
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  day, pat yourself on your back every day for what you did get
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  done. And and and that's it. That's a very simple
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  step. If you want to write a book, your very first step is to
• 24:41
  sit down and say, why do I want to write this book? How is this
• 24:45
  book going to change my life, my business? What, you
• 24:49
  know, what do I want out of this? That's your very
• 24:53
  first step. So ask yourself, why do I want to write a book?
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  How is this going to change my life? And when you figure that out, you
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  can start thinking about, well, if that's the case, who's the
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  audience? And then when you figure that out, you
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  can say, okay, now why would they read this book? What's in
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  it for them? Those are the first three questions you're gonna ask
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  yourself if you're thinking about writing a book. And if you'd like resources for that,
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  you can go to author nation dot online. And
• 25:22
  that is where I keep my resource library, and you can check out all the
• 25:26
  resources I have for you there. Fabulous. Fabulous.
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  Okay. Here's the zinger. When was the last time you did
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  something for the first time? Oh, wow. Okay.
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  I haven't done a lot of new stuff lately because
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  last August, I did something very new. I went hiking in the
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  Yukon in in Canada in the Yukon. It was so much
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  fun, except I fell and I snapped my leg in 3 pieces and I
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  had to be rescued by a helicopter. So that's the first time I was ever
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  rescued by a helicopter. They turned me into bionic woman. I now
• 25:59
  I'm a I now have to tiny him in my in my leg. So that
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  was the first time I did that. And, I had to learn to
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  walk again. That was the second time I did that. And so I've been doing
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  a lot of, physio and healing. So I have not you know,
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  besides my business and doing a lot of physio and healing to get
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  back healthy again, I haven't done a lot of other new stuff this year, unfortunately.
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  But breaking my leg and getting a helicopter right out of the Yukon, that was
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  definitely a new thing for me as was the surgery and
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  learning to walk you down. Absolutely. Absolutely. And you know what? I
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  celebrated every little step. I remember a friend said, you know, you're kinda
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  crazy. Right? You just celebrated being able to stand. I'm like, yeah.
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  That's a big deal. Yeah. Yeah. It is.
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  I celebrated the small steps every, like, every along
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  the way. Yeah. And I I think, you know,
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  in this crazy world, and
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  and this is in terms of managing and stuff too, we tend to focus
• 26:59
  on what's wrong. You know, we're like you know, one of the things that I
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  say all the time to entrepreneurs is that you bring on staff,
• 27:07
  make sure you tell them the good things that they do too. Not
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  not not with the but. You did this well, but you need you know, just
• 27:14
  like, you did good. Thanks. Yes. And so
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  that celebration just gives you a totally different level of joy in your
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  life. Alright. So I need to I need to wind this up. So there
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  are a couple of things that I need to say to everybody.
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  You have given us so much to think about, and so, you
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  know, change is not always easy, but it can be simple. But it
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  still takes a certain amount of courage and, you know,
• 27:41
  resilience and and, especially, a willingness to step out of your
• 27:45
  comfort zone. So I hope that all of you that are listening
• 27:48
  today walk away with something and that you'll join me again
• 27:52
  so that you can find out, you know, what kind of shifts you
• 27:56
  can make that are gonna have a transformation in your life and in your, you
• 28:00
  know, in your business and in your personal life. And so
• 28:05
  we all have a bold vision, and we all have innovative
• 28:09
  possibilities that are in us. We just have to mind them and unleash
• 28:13
  them and let them out and go against, you know, common common
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  wisdom sometimes because common wisdom tells us to
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  play it safe. And I want you to be bold.
• 28:25
  Melanie, what last words have you got for us? I love
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  what you just said. Be bold, and it's okay to take
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  tiptoey steps. You know, as long as you're walking forward, you're you're moving
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  forward. Right? And do it in do it in a bold fashion step by step.
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  I love that. When I mountain climb when I mountain hike, I don't look at
• 28:43
  the top of the mountain. I know where I wanna go, but I don't look
• 28:46
  there. I look where I'm going, and I take one step at a time. Because
• 28:49
  if I looked at the mountain, I never get there. Okay.
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  So the one thing, the last thing that I wanna say is
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  make sure that you subscribe and share, and
• 29:00
  that you engage on, social media. That was my dog giving me the
• 29:04
  earthquake shake. And you don't
• 29:08
  wanna, you know, make connections that you can share with other people.
• 29:11
  So until next time. Right? There are places that you
• 29:15
  could spend your time, but I'm so glad you spent your time here. And check
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  out all the other podcasts that are here as well. So, Melanie, thank
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  you again so much. I enjoyed this so much and got so much out of
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  it. I hope everybody else did as well. Thank you, Yvonne.