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Football at Four: Detailing Positives and Concerns from Eagles 1st Preseason Game · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Josh Da Nick Gershall filling it for Mike Yell here
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  one and only Adam Kaplan, the Eagles first preseason game
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  of the twenty twenty five season, and Adam, we can
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  officially say the Philadelphia Eagles have not lost a game
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  on the field since December twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing today?
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  Speaker 3: That's right, good point, Josh, I didn't even think of
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  it that way. But you know, as preseason games go,
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  as I said on Next last night, if you like offense,
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  you probably like this game. And it's pretty remarkable. It
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  really was. And obviously the big story is Karen McKee
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  was just on fire.
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  Speaker 1: You know that.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, that Ben has played seven of their
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  defensive starters, so it's not like they played a bunch
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  of backups, although I was surprised that McKey played into
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  the third quarter, but he was simply incredible. But another
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  thing Josh I wanted to mention before we go in
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  everything is that the Eagles offensive line Stein only played,
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  Tyler Steen only played a little bit, but the four
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  backups they got to feel really good. Eagle's front office
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  has got to feel really good about what they were
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  able to accomplish last night. I'm pleasantly surprised that Drew
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  Kennell held up Brett totha left guard, Kendall Lamb at
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  left tackle, Matt Pryor at right tackle, and Stein, who
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  made a cameo, and they did a phenomenal job against
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  that defense that the Benals put out up there.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Adam, it's Nick. You mentioned Tanner McKee. He was
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  incredible last night, and you mentioned something in the postgame
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  show on Inside the Birds last night his mobility. Tell
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  me what you noticed about that and what you saw
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  from his game against.
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  Speaker 3: The Bengal Nick, It's really interesting that if you looked
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  at him in twenty twenty three, his rookie season, when
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  he didn't really have a good training camp. No, his
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  preseason was really good and that got him on the roster,
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  But he was like a statue. One of the knots
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  on him because I know people are asking why this
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  guy drop with the sixth round. Well, lack of pocket mobility.
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  Today's game, they want guys who could run and throw,
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  and he didn't put up big number. So yeah, he
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  had the big arm and a good size, so he's
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  going to get drafted. But there wasn't really anything special
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  about him. And I got to give through all the
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  coaches that they've had who've worked with him, Kevin Patulo
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  bother he's probably worked with him more than anyone because
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  remember he's coached quarterbacks, he's been an offensive, high level
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  offensive assistant. Now he's calling a play, so he knows
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  him very well. I thought Patula, by the way, would
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  just want to drop in there. Called a very good game.
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  But on your point, Nick, the stinky part about him
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  is certainly not going to call him a great athlete.
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  But we saw it in training camp last year and
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  I was like, Wow, what we'll see if this is real.
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  Then in preseason he tore it up. He moved very well,
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  and he played very well for one half against the Giants,
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  and then you had this preseason game, which is best performance.
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  It's not just the numbers which are ridiculously great, twenty
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  for twenty five with two touchdowns. He did take two sacks,
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  one from clearly was not his fault, but he's so
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  in control. He makes great decisions. He thinks quickly, throws
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  to some anticipation, which means you get the ball to
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  a spot and you have the pass Tarkers go get
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  to football. It was something mouth last night. Guys. I mean,
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  you know, it's just funny because when they drafted him,
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  they didn't really know what they were getting. They know
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  what the Eagles knew what he was as a quarterback,
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  but they were probably not thinking that he'd be their
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  backup quarterback for two or three years. But he signed
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  through twenty twenty six. I mean, this kid is pretty good.
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  And if look, if we went through the other thirty
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  one teams in their backup quarterbacks, he certainly had a
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  top five backup quarterback. This kid's got a lot of ability.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he looked really good last night, as well as
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  some of the guys in the backfield as well. Ship
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  and Dylan. What did you notice about them? Shipley had
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  that long run as well from the great block from
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  Tyler Steen. Talk to me about what you noticed from
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  those two guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a seal block. Yeah, that's when he's
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  got to be able to make. And Shipley's got that
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  great speed. That's a run like a J Dillon's not
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  going to make. Although Dylan looked very good. We'll get
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  him in a minute. The one knock on Shipley. And
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  you probably heard this. You could go inside the Birds
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  folks if you want to hear a post game show
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  on pod, or you could hear your watch or listen
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  on YouTube. What I did say, the one show I
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  have with Shipley is because this is from a sc
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  This is from scouting. He's not as strong on his
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  lower body that showed up on those goal line carries.
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  He's just not strong enough. And I would have liked
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  to have seen Dylan get that goal line work. Of course,
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  McKee wound up getting the tush push for the touchdown.
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  But Shipley's more exposive than Dylan. But boy, Dylan caught
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  some passes. One of them was really nice. He got
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  chucked down on one carry, but he had the first
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  carry was ten yards. He looked good. He answered the
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  question what would it look like if he had to
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  get tackled. He's the way back. No question about it.
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  So let's say, guys, so let's extrap lady, what if
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  park could play one of two games? Shipley is explosive,
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  They could have a really interesting two man backfield.
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  Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan NFL Insider at Chaplin NFL at joining us
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  from the Inside the Birds podcasts Inside the Birds dot
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  Com like subscribe to down load wherever you get your podcasts, Adam.
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  Staying on the offensive side, let's talk about the receivers.
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  Because for as much praise as McKee has gotten over
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  the last almost twenty four hours, I thought that what
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  we saw from Johnny Wilson and Nia Smith was very,
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  very encouraging to see these guys make legitimate progress Because
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  of my mind, Adam, and I don't know if it
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  was the seame for you, but my mind goes back
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  to when the Eagles, when they drafted back in the day.
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  You know, Ques Watkins and John high Tower, those guys
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  never evolved, They never progressed the way that Wilson and
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  Smith are.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, well, let's talk about Johnny Wilson. Right, So,
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  Trey camp has been an even what and a jet
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  point is out because he was at the final two
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  practices before this game. Wilson's come on a little bit.
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  And what happened was Josh and the knock on Johnny
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  Wilson is he's got to be more than a blocking receiver.
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  They didn't draft him just to be able to block,
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  which he's very good at. You're talking about a guy
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  who's over six foot six. There's a player I pointed
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  out before in our show when Mac McWilliams went up
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  against him in training camp last week. It was actually
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  last Sunday, and you get the ball was short from
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  Kyle McCord and Wilson just didn't make the effort and
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  I was like, this is not good. Now, ironically he
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  had a play like this last night. He made the effort,
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  did a good job. He had a very good game
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  obviously this start of the game. As Darius Cooper, who's
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  got a great body for the receiver positions, really built
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  himself up. He's beefed up. You know, he's over two
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  hundred pounds. He's two of five to two ten. He
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  snatches the ball. He looked fantastic. Colin granted had some
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  nice catch at Dotson did a good job. You mentioned
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  an I Smith with a touchdown catch. Nice and by
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  the way, what a great punt return. He did a
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  lot of that on his own. That was fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: Adams. One more on the offensive side. We mentioned in
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  passing about the offensive line. I was very impressed with Kendall.
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  For a guy to get to the second level that
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  many times consistently, it really showed you that, you know,
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  the Eagles is not just Staltlin University. They got a
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  guy that they might have a legitimate backup center and
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  maybe we can avoid the la the NFC Championship came
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  fiasco we had this past year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you don't want Brett Toast to be that guy. Now.
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  See Kendall, it really should be a center, not a guard.
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  He could play guard, but he's not built to play guard.
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  So he son of us. You know his dad, Pete Kendall.
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  He might remember for a couple teams in the NFL,
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  longtime guard center. So yeah, this is a really good
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  sign for him because there were questions physically whether he
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  could handle at this level. But he did a great job.
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  This is one of those things where you go on
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  thinking some things and you see what happens, and overall,
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  I don't know what else you could say about the offense.
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  I mean, by the way, and I know it's a
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  small thing. During Thompson Robins threw the back pretty well.
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  I really liked that twenty four yarder. We threw with power,
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  and then Colin McCord just didn't look comfabay of the deflection.
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  That was not a great pass. But you know, overall,
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  the offense was fantastic. Really nothing to complain about. I
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  don't know what else he could And by the way
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  the bend was played, I believe seven other defensive starters,
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  so you really can't complain that. You can't say, oh,
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  they played a bunch of backups. That's not the case, Adam.
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  Speaker 2: I want to switch gears to the defensive side of
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  the ball and Ty Robinson second round pick Listen Matt
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  Rule has had a lot of really good things to
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  say about him as a college head coach forma temple
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  coach as well. He had a sack last night. He
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  looked really good. Could he surprise some people and fans
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  this coming year and work his way into the rotation
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  and be an important piece, maybe even later on in
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  the season.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Nick, here's the thing. They traded Thomas Booker, who
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  is the top backup nose tackle they're kind of light. Honestly,
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  Byron Young didn't play in this team. He's got in
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  my own injury. He's the only player if you look
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  at the Fay five backup two tackles, he's the only
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  player to play in an NFL game. I think he
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  was sixty one. Joe Evans was an undirected free agent
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  as a backup nose last night. Gab Hall had a
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  good game last night. He played well playing. You know,
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  this is a guy who's going to I gotta believe
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  he's going to make the team. He's got great lands,
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  he's got his energy, he's doing a good job in
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  the kid Jacob Sykes. It's been around a little bit,
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  so look they're not Yeah, so Ty Robinson, he could
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  want to be in the first guy off the bench, Neick,
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  to be honest with you, because there's really nobody else
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  right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he really played well last night. And another guy
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  that had a pretty decent game was Patrick Johnson. You know,
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  he had a sack that was negated by the penalty,
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  but he also deflected a pass that was intercepted. So
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  what did you notice from Patrick Patrick Johnson, excuse me,
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  from last night's ball game?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Patrick Johnson is really a special teams player, only
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  he doesn't figure too if he makes a team to
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  play defense. However, they don't really have Like Jerksun has
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  not developed as a pass rusher yet. I mean he's
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  very talented, a lot of upside, but he's not developed yet.
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  Nold Smith is coming back from pretty significant Injurie. I
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  mean he's gonna be ready for the season. He's practicing,
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  but he hasn't done it for a full season yet.
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  O Ja Laurie. But you know, he's not had a
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  great camp. He's playing with a good coin. Josh Uchas
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  looked good. Not a great pass rusher, said one good
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  year as a pass rusher. Palell Ryan is a rookie,
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  Obo Conchroe is there, and O'shawn Mathis is a guy
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  that's kind of flashed a little bit. And Patrick Johnson's
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  had some really good moments in training camp. But yeah,
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  he's number forty eight for this or scoring at home.
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  Vegles wound up cutting him and he was claiming enough
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  waivers by the Giants. Legles brought him back. He'll have
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  a chance to make the team because he's a good
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  special teams player. But that's one thing to look at
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  as they're pass russ they have enough guys, but I
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  don't know really who's their high in pass rusher right now.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was a Forredy slipped by Nick Earnshaw
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  there Nick josh Y Fillion for Mike Gillen's Sports Bash
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  when night's having three ESPN. As we've all been complaining
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  about the cornerback situation, Ringo Jackson both got cooked multiple
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  times in the game last night, and I had people
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  are like, oh, well it's Jamar Chase. Well some of
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  that to me, Adam looked like poor discipline, bed your footwork,
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  Like these are guys you should be better than what
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  we saw last night. It was very, very disappointing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if Ringo's got to recognize where he is on
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  the field. But here's the thing, Josh, well, yeah he's
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  going against Joe Burne Jamar Chase. Well, guess what. Ringo
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  is not competing for a backup job. He's competing to
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  be a starter. So you got to bring your A level.
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  The lower body stiffness showed up in this game a
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  little bit. Stopping starting has not been good for Ringo.
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  That's another issue. We pointed this out now for three
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  years people who ripped us, and they obviously know that
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  this is true. If you even know anything about football,
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  you can't just rely on length and speed at that position.
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  Got to be able to transition better. And he just Josh,
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  it hadn't happened. Look, it was really bad last training
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  camp last year. After one week it was over for him.
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  Now I'll say this about Ruingo. He's had some moments
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  of training camp like some good practice, some not so good.
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  Here's what I think is gonna happen Jacory and Bennett
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  who they traded for. Let's see what happens is coming
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  week and see how much work he gets because he's
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  the next guy up here.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely of course, the next Eagles preseason game next Saturday afternoon.
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  Of course, every Eagles game here you're home for the
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  Eagles in South Jersey on ninety seven to three ESPN.
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  He's Adam Kaplan Inside the Birds podcast inside the Birds
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  dot Com, like subscribe and download wherever you get your podcast. Adam,
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  I appreciate you jumping on. Keep with great work, enjoy
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  the weekend, and talk to you next week.
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  Speaker 3: Guys. Thank you, Siia