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- 0:09Speaker 1: Hey hey and hello welcome in everybody it's time for
- 0:11Speaker 1: three guys before the game west virginia and the cincinnati
- 0:15Speaker 1: bearcats on the football field coming up on saturday and
- 0:19Speaker 1: the mountaineer basketball team makes its public debut sunday at
- 0:24Speaker 1: maryland against the terrapins we'll get into all of that
- 0:26Speaker 1: and more and all three guys they are here yes
- 0:32Speaker 1: old obvious guy he's back Obviously, we found him. Three guys.
- 0:38Speaker 2: Silver alert paid off. You guys are gold rushing this thing.
- 0:42Speaker 2: I didn't get the memo.
- 0:44Speaker 1: It's not gold. I'm off gold.
- 0:45Speaker 2: It's my bag.
- 0:46Speaker 1: It's okay.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Tony's wearing pajamas. What do you have?
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- 1:59Speaker 1: West Virginia. Cincinnati.
- 2:03Speaker 2: Old rival Cincinnati. Old conference rival.
- 2:05Speaker 1: I don't want to say must win.
- 2:07Speaker 2: No, it is a must win.
- 2:08Speaker 1: Well, I'll let you do your thing. But believe it
- 2:13Speaker 1: or not, you said that in jest. It is an
- 2:16Speaker 1: old rival. It's the oldest rival that we have on
- 2:21Speaker 1: this year's schedule. This will be the 23rd meeting. And so, yeah,
- 2:28Speaker 1: as far as history goes in this new world, you've
- 2:30Speaker 1: got a team that you've played 22 previous times. That's
- 2:32Speaker 1: your oldest team. I think that speaks to something. I
- 2:35Speaker 1: don't know exactly. And I'm not saying it's a good
- 2:38Speaker 1: thing that it speaks to, but that's the reality.
- 2:39Speaker 3: Well, this was an important game against Rich in the
- 2:42Speaker 3: first iteration of his coaching tenure.
- 2:44Speaker 1: Yes, yes.
- 2:47Speaker 3: Went over to Nippert Stadium there. They doinked one off
- 2:50Speaker 3: the upright. We walked out high-stepping with his– I believe
- 2:53Speaker 3: it was his first road win, was it not?
- 2:54Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was. It was. It is.
- 2:56Speaker 3: Yeah, and even more than that, guys, if you remember
- 2:59Speaker 3: back to that time, that felt like a seminal moment almost.
- 3:04Speaker 3: It was like, okay, there it is. All right, all right,
- 3:06Speaker 3: here we go.
- 3:07Speaker 1: Now we go.
- 3:08Speaker 2: Do we need to name like the I-70 rivalry or something? No,
- 3:12Speaker 2: I don't think so.
- 3:13Speaker 3: No.
- 3:15Speaker 1: I don't think it warrants a name. Just, like, play
- 3:17Speaker 1: the game. All right. Just play the game. It's, like anything,
- 3:22Speaker 1: if you kind of study and dive into it, it's
- 3:24Speaker 1: an interesting game because they are rested. They are off.
- 3:30Speaker 1: They run the ball well, 12th in the country coming in.
- 3:34Speaker 1: They did not run it well against Arizona's in their
- 3:38Speaker 1: last outing. They have some, like everybody else, They have
- 3:43Speaker 1: some issues that they try to hide. West Virginia obviously
- 3:47Speaker 1: has some issues that it tries to hide. And so
- 3:51Speaker 1: a game of hide and seek will take place at
- 3:55Speaker 1: the stadium coming up on Sunday. Also, the Mountaineer basketball team,
- 3:59Speaker 1: as I mentioned, they are in action 3 p.m. Sunday,
- 4:04Speaker 1: the very common 3 p.m. start time. and Brad and
- 4:09Speaker 1: I are going to go over. We're going to do
- 4:10Speaker 1: it on MSN Radio. It's on Big Ten TV, but
- 4:13Speaker 1: you have to have some special tiered package.
- 4:15Speaker 3: Big Ten Plus, it's streaming. You've got to have four subscriptions.
- 4:18Speaker 3: It costs like $ 4, 000 to get it. Probably the best
- 4:21Speaker 3: approach is just to go ahead and listen on radio.
- 4:23Speaker 2: Listen on the radio.
- 4:24Speaker 1: I think.
- 4:24Speaker 3: Just trying to help here, but I think you just
- 4:25Speaker 3: go ahead on radio.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 4:27Speaker 2: Save some frustration.
- 4:28Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Save some dollars. Just listen on the radio.
- 4:30Speaker 1: It's Sunday.
- 4:31Speaker 2: It'll be Sunday.
- 4:32Speaker 1: Middle of the day Sunday. You need to be outside.
- 4:34Speaker 1: Just walk. Enjoy the leaves. Put some earbuds in or
- 4:38Speaker 1: whatever and just kind of walk and listen to the game.
- 4:40Speaker 1: We'll be there for you.
- 4:42Speaker 2: It's a dandy of a game, by the way. Oh, yeah.
- 4:45Speaker 2: It's going to be a game.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Yeah, they've already played Georgia Tech. And what's crazy about it,
- 4:50Speaker 1: he didn't even realize this. I looked at the box
- 4:52Speaker 1: score from the Georgia Tech, the Georgia Tech-Maryland game, and
- 4:56Speaker 1: Maryland pounded them 15, lined up, beat them 15. But
- 5:00Speaker 1: I'm looking at the Georgia Tech box score. I'm looking
- 5:03Speaker 1: at the name. Jackson Fields. He was a rebound away
- 5:06Speaker 1: from a double-double. Like, Jackson Fields, he played for us
- 5:09Speaker 1: last year, right? I mean, he got hurt, but that's
- 5:13Speaker 1: the world.
- 5:14Speaker 2: None of that should be surprising anymore, right?
- 5:16Speaker 1: No.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Although you lose track. There's so much transaction going on.
- 5:20Speaker 2: You lose track, and then you play somebody, and you go, well,
- 5:23Speaker 2: that guy used to be somewhere. That's what I did. Yeah,
- 5:27Speaker 2: that's what I did when he said that. I looked
- 5:29Speaker 2: at the box score. I didn't even look at Georgia Tech.
- 5:33Speaker 1: And I told these guys just before– we don't meet
- 5:35Speaker 1: before we start. We don't say, hey, this is– yeah, obviously.
- 5:38Speaker 1: This is going to be the order. We don't even
- 5:40Speaker 1: do that. But I did tell those guys that these
- 5:43Speaker 1: ongoing court decisions, which now seem to be a heavy
- 5:47Speaker 1: favorite NCAA winning these things, if these decisions, if by
- 5:54Speaker 1: chance some big decision comes out that renders everyone attempting
- 5:58Speaker 1: to get the fifth year ineligible– it will be the
- 6:02Speaker 1: most catastrophic roster change in college basketball history literally days
- 6:09Speaker 1: before the season starts because it's not just West Virginia
- 6:11Speaker 1: with its two guys. Every school, for the most part,
- 6:16Speaker 1: has a couple of guys. And for some schools, i.e. St. John's,
- 6:20Speaker 1: if they lose these dudes that they're trying to get eligible,
- 6:26Speaker 1: I mean, it's damn near intramural team.
- 6:28Speaker 3: There's some high-end guys. I think another looming issue that
- 6:32Speaker 3: could pop up too. I think that will be catastrophic
- 6:35Speaker 3: across the board for a lot of teams. I think
- 6:37Speaker 3: another issue that causes a ton of problems is what
- 6:40Speaker 3: happens when some are eligible and some are not.
- 6:43Speaker 1: I think that's going to be it. That's when I
- 6:45Speaker 1: will lose my noodle.
- 6:46Speaker 3: You think I lost my noodle about hanging the banner, Kerchival,
- 6:50Speaker 3: about that? Wait until somebody gets dinged or we get
- 6:54Speaker 3: dinged and somebody else doesn't. But that's a real possibility
- 6:58Speaker 3: here that some are allowed, some are not here.
- 7:00Speaker 1: You can't do that. I literally have been thinking about that.
- 7:04Speaker 1: If some schools get to play some dudes, and we're
- 7:07Speaker 1: sitting there, and we can't play our dudes, and we're
- 7:10Speaker 1: playing against dudes, you know what I'm doing? I shouldn't
- 7:13Speaker 1: even say this.
- 7:14Speaker 2: You know, go ahead.
- 7:17Speaker 1: I'd go full Al Pacino. I'd go full Al Pacino
- 7:21Speaker 1: and give them a, oh, is that right? Oh, is
- 7:24Speaker 1: that right? Oh, they're playing. They're going to play.
- 7:27Speaker 3: Those two things are on the table as of now
- 7:29Speaker 3: until we get more rulings.
- 7:30Speaker 2: Yesterday, I interviewed for a state of minds program, Gordon Gee,
- 7:33Speaker 2: who has spent a lot of time in the last
- 7:36Speaker 2: several years and the last several months lobbying Capitol Hill
- 7:38Speaker 2: in support of the Protect College Sports Act. The House
- 7:42Speaker 2: goes back into session today.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Today.
- 7:45Speaker 2: And you have a limited window, just a few weeks
- 7:48Speaker 2: to try to pass that bill before this session of
- 7:51Speaker 2: Congress ends. And you would have to start all over, Tony.
- 7:54Speaker 1: So.
- 7:55Speaker 2: You've got a window here. I don't know how that
- 7:57Speaker 2: impacts what you're talking about now, but you have a
- 7:59Speaker 2: window here to try to have some rules and some enforceability,
- 8:06Speaker 2: and you need to take advantage of that now.
- 8:08Speaker 3: Well, here's how it impacts it. I think if I've
- 8:10Speaker 3: got this right, if the Protect College Sports Act passes,
- 8:15Speaker 3: then these 2022 kids that we're talking about are eligible.
- 8:20Speaker 3: if it passes, but the NCAA is fighting it to
- 8:23Speaker 3: the death on the other side. Even though they're in
- 8:27Speaker 3: favor of the Protect College Sports Act, but they're fighting
- 8:31Speaker 3: the 2022s as if their very life depends upon it.
- 8:34Speaker 1: The system's normal.
- 8:35Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's odd. Sorry, I didn't mean to
- 8:37Speaker 2: interrupt you there. No, that's a very relevant point. And
- 8:40Speaker 2: this is something that Gordon Gee said just off camera.
- 8:42Speaker 2: He said he would have said it on camera. I
- 8:43Speaker 2: didn't ask him about it. He thinks that within five years,
- 8:46Speaker 2: you'll have somebody other than the NCAA. Because the NCAA
- 8:50Speaker 2: is just so bureaucratic, it's so messed up, that you
- 8:54Speaker 2: need another entity that everybody agrees upon to enforce the rules.
- 8:59Speaker 2: Start over. But you just said the key phrase.
- 9:02Speaker 1: What?
- 9:02Speaker 3: The key phrase that nobody adds when they say that
- 9:05Speaker 3: is that everybody agrees upon. That everybody agrees upon when
- 9:11Speaker 3: it comes to college athletics does not exist.
- 9:14Speaker 2: It just simply doesn't exist. But another entity... Let the
- 9:19Speaker 2: NCAA handle the tournaments.
- 9:22Speaker 3: Well, we'll debate this later on. I mean, that's probably
- 9:25Speaker 3: where it's headed, but that's also not a fix.
- 9:28Speaker 2: It's not a fix because.
- 9:29Speaker 3: You've got to listen to them, the governing body, and
- 9:32Speaker 3: schools and college sports don't listen to the governing body.
- 9:35Speaker 3: So how's it ever going to get fixed?
- 9:36Speaker 1: But we digress.
- 9:37Speaker 2: Okay, we digress, yes.
- 9:38Speaker 1: I certainly hope this did not take away from your
- 9:41Speaker 1: cherished segment. Ladies and gentlemen, we present Hoppy's Obvious. observations
- 9:47Speaker 1: he's got thoughts that sound brand new but they're things
- 9:51Speaker 1: we already knew already know it bomb.
- 9:54Speaker 2: Ready heaven knows let's.
- 9:56Speaker 3: Make it quick before his bladder issues Already knew it.
- 9:56Speaker 3: That's bladder issues.
- 10:00Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness.
- 10:05Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 10:09Speaker 1: With your bladder issues, how do you do the food
- 10:12Speaker 1: court and you hang out there for hours at a time?
- 10:14Speaker 2: I don't think you want to know.
- 10:15Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. Moving on now, here's Hoppy's obvious observations. I do.
- 10:19Speaker 2: If you thought that this team, and I think the
- 10:21Speaker 2: vast majority of West Virginia fans did, as I did
- 10:24Speaker 2: and I think we did, was going to win six,
- 10:26Speaker 2: seven games, maybe more, and go to a bowl game,
- 10:28Speaker 2: this is a must win.
- 10:30Speaker 1: It is.
- 10:31Speaker 2: Now, I don't rule West Virginia out for winning any
- 10:34Speaker 2: of the games going forward, but based on what's happened
- 10:37Speaker 2: so far, Tony, you look at this game and say,
- 10:40Speaker 2: this is one, you've got to win this game, right?
- 10:42Speaker 2: Because you've got Houston coming up, you've got Utah coming up,
- 10:45Speaker 2: You got Texas Tech coming up. So you got to
- 10:48Speaker 2: win this game, right, Brad, to get in the 6-7 category.
- 10:52Speaker 3: Yeah, we always joke must win, not must win. Well,
- 10:54Speaker 3: it's not technically a must win. But I'm with you.
- 10:57Speaker 3: The margin for error has been reduced down to just
- 11:01Speaker 3: a few games here where you're going to be favored in.
- 11:03Speaker 3: This is one where you're favored. Yeah, this is an
- 11:05Speaker 3: important one, no question. If we're talking about getting to
- 11:07Speaker 3: a bowl game, yes.
- 11:08Speaker 2: And I think that most fans are. I think that's
- 11:10Speaker 2: the expectation. It's an important one. I don't know how
- 11:13Speaker 2: far I want to go down this particular rabbit hole,
- 11:15Speaker 2: but I was thinking about the idea of winning, winning
- 11:18Speaker 2: versus losing. And winning is not just confined to sports.
- 11:23Speaker 2: I mean, we are wired to win, okay? Going back
- 11:27Speaker 2: to caveman days, we are wired to win. And not just.
- 11:32Speaker 1: You're the caveman reference. That's a good one. I want
- 11:35Speaker 1: to see where this one goes.
- 11:36Speaker 2: Talking caveman. What would you talk about?
- 11:38Speaker 1: I'm taking this boulder. I throw it 50 yards.
- 11:41Speaker 3: Cincinnati's going to want to run it. We're going to
- 11:43Speaker 3: talk caveman.
- 11:44Speaker 1: Go ahead, Bam Bam.
- 11:46Speaker 2: That is the nature of life. And it is exemplified
- 11:50Speaker 2: by sports where the winning and losing is very, very evident.
- 11:54Speaker 2: But in life, it's about winning because winning is about success.
- 11:58Speaker 2: And every day we go out there. I was talking
- 12:00Speaker 2: to Coach Hodge, and we were talking about exercising.
- 12:02Speaker 1: Name drop. Yeah, go ahead.
- 12:03Speaker 2: And we were talking about exercising. He goes, you know,
- 12:05Speaker 2: you don't feel like exercising, but you go and you exercise.
- 12:07Speaker 2: He says, that's a win, right? You go in your relationships,
- 12:12Speaker 2: and maybe you have to work hard on something with
- 12:14Speaker 2: your spouse or whatever. That's a win, okay? You're a salesperson.
- 12:18Speaker 2: You go out and you don't make any sales for, like,
- 12:22Speaker 2: several days. Now you feel like you're losing. And then
- 12:25Speaker 2: you get some sales. Now it's a win.
- 12:26Speaker 3: And then you would be in a must-win. Sales guy's
- 12:29Speaker 3: got a must-win on a Thursday.
- 12:31Speaker 2: So it just affects your headspace. Oh, yeah. Dramatically.
- 12:38Speaker 1: I mean, that's where it all.
- 12:41Speaker 2: Begins and ends. And if you lose, if you lose,
- 12:47Speaker 2: that's the challenge. Because what thoughts creep into your head?
- 12:52Speaker 2: All my effort was for nothing. I've let people down.
- 12:56Speaker 2: That's what starts to creep in, and that's, I think,
- 12:59Speaker 2: you know, Tony, you're very good at what you do.
- 13:02Speaker 2: If you have a bad call or make a mistake,
- 13:05Speaker 2: I think you have the ability, and you acknowledge, oh, God,
- 13:07Speaker 2: but you have the ability to check and move on, right?
- 13:11Speaker 2: But if you- Yeah, but early on, if you made
- 13:13Speaker 2: a bunch of mistakes in a row, it would say,
- 13:15Speaker 2: am I good at this? Can I really do this?
- 13:18Speaker 2: So it is a really, for me, for this team,
- 13:21Speaker 2: and to get into psychobabble, I think this is a
- 13:23Speaker 2: really interesting time for this team, Brad. Like, where is
- 13:26Speaker 2: their headspace? And it's the coach's job to get them to, like,
- 13:30Speaker 2: set that stuff aside and win.
- 13:33Speaker 1: Now, win what?
- 13:35Speaker 2: Well, the macro is win the game, right? But that's
- 13:38Speaker 2: a little overwhelming. Have you all watched the Nick Saban
- 13:40Speaker 2: thing on ESPN?
- 13:41Speaker 1: Those clips have not watched it yet. I watch his commercials.
- 13:45Speaker 1: He's on everyone.
- 13:46Speaker 2: Yeah, he is. He had that, when he was at
- 13:50Speaker 2: Michigan State, and he got hooked up with that psychiatrist.
- 13:53Speaker 1: Yes.
- 13:53Speaker 2: Right. And came up with the first part of the process.
- 13:56Speaker 1: Yes.
- 13:57Speaker 2: And that psychiatrist, whose name was?
- 14:00Speaker 1: Brad Howell.
- 14:01Speaker 2: Lionel Rosen.
- 14:02Speaker 1: Dr.
- 14:03Speaker 2: Lionel Rosen. And his thing was, the game is seven seconds.
- 14:06Speaker 2: The Each possession, seven seconds.
- 14:09Speaker 1: Win that.
- 14:11Speaker 2: Win that play. Win each play. And I'm sure the
- 14:16Speaker 2: coaches do that anyway at WVU. But that's it, Brad.
- 14:18Speaker 2: I think that's an interesting way to look at it,
- 14:21Speaker 2: especially with this defense. Because if you just look at
- 14:23Speaker 2: the macro, you go, oh, my God, they can't do anything.
- 14:26Speaker 2: But can you win those seven seconds? Yeah, it's a
- 14:29Speaker 2: great point.
- 14:30Speaker 3: And if you can get your guys to do it,
- 14:32Speaker 3: as he did a lot, then you see success.
- 14:34Speaker 2: That's really hard to do.
- 14:36Speaker 3: That's hard for people to do, to take the task
- 14:38Speaker 3: in hand and not worry about the larger picture. That's
- 14:41Speaker 3: hard in sports when you are result-based. The whole thing
- 14:45Speaker 3: is result-based, as you just outlined, and now you're asking
- 14:47Speaker 3: me to not be result-based and just trust the moment.
- 14:50Speaker 3: The other thing, and we've talked about this a lot, guys,
- 14:52Speaker 3: you can't artificially plant confidence. All coaches do, and some
- 14:57Speaker 3: do a wonderful job of trying to speak that into
- 15:00Speaker 3: existence and giving your team confidence. But you know what
- 15:02Speaker 3: gets confidence, and especially for this defense, the only thing
- 15:05Speaker 3: that's going to give them confidence? They've got to go
- 15:06Speaker 3: make plays.
- 15:07Speaker 2: Yes.
- 15:07Speaker 3: You've got to make plays. Now, you make a couple
- 15:09Speaker 3: plays early. And I've always said this to you guys.
- 15:12Speaker 3: You know right away if the guy across from you
- 15:14Speaker 3: is better than you. You know if you're swimming upstream
- 15:17Speaker 3: or not. And that doesn't mean just because he is
- 15:18Speaker 3: better than you that you can't get the better of him.
- 15:21Speaker 2: But you know right away.
- 15:22Speaker 3: If this team can make some stops early, then you've
- 15:25Speaker 3: got a chance to get a little of that confidence.
- 15:27Speaker 3: If not, it's hard. If they start out... and start
- 15:30Speaker 3: running it right down your throat again, then there is
- 15:33Speaker 3: a feeling. And I've been on bad, bad teams, Hoppy.
- 15:35Speaker 3: That does happen. When you're on a bad team and
- 15:38Speaker 3: they come out in the top of the first inning
- 15:40Speaker 3: and just start knocking on you, you're like, here we
- 15:42Speaker 3: go again.
- 15:43Speaker 1: Here we go again.
- 15:44Speaker 3: And it is hard to recover from that. And I
- 15:46Speaker 3: think to your point, to tie into your point, that's
- 15:49Speaker 3: where this defense sits. They sit on that precipice of, oh, no,
- 15:53Speaker 3: here we go again. Or get off the field in
- 15:56Speaker 3: the first possession on a three and out, and you
- 15:58Speaker 3: get there's your win. there's your win to start the game.
- 16:00Speaker 1: Right. Sure. Yes. You get, if you were able, I mean,
- 16:03Speaker 1: as small as this sounds, but to your point, if
- 16:05Speaker 1: you're able to get off the field on your first
- 16:07Speaker 1: two defensive possessions on Saturday, if you're West Virginia, you
- 16:11Speaker 1: go like, okay. And it totally sets your mind. So
- 16:15Speaker 1: you give up a 47 yard run and then a
- 16:19Speaker 1: 42 yard pass play. And you go E or you go, Oh,
- 16:22Speaker 1: or we, or this is, this is, this is, this was, yes, exactly. Right.
- 16:28Speaker 2: So, and, And, Tony, you guys were talking. I mean,
- 16:30Speaker 2: what stood out about that second half of the Arizona
- 16:32Speaker 2: game was they scored, like, four touchdowns in, like, 12 plays.
- 16:34Speaker 2: I mean, something nutty. Averaged less than three plays per
- 16:37Speaker 2: possession in 68 seconds. So, it's gotten worse. So, do
- 16:43Speaker 2: you continue with that?
- 16:45Speaker 1: I mean, do.
- 16:47Speaker 2: They come out and score right away? So, my point
- 16:51Speaker 2: is that the psychology of it all.
- 16:54Speaker 1: Agree.
- 16:55Speaker 2: I mean, you've got to have players, but the psychology
- 16:57Speaker 2: is important.
- 16:57Speaker 1: What you basically are saying is the old analogy. How
- 17:01Speaker 1: do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.
- 17:03Speaker 1: That's what you're saying. Seven seconds, and then another seven seconds,
- 17:07Speaker 1: and another seven seconds. That's what I'm saying.
- 17:08Speaker 2: It struck me as odd. Do people eat elephants?
- 17:11Speaker 1: Right somewhere.
- 17:12Speaker 2: You think? If they do, it's one bite at a time.
- 17:14Speaker 2: Listening to you guys, I did watch. I was not
- 17:16Speaker 2: on the last program, but I did listen or watch
- 17:18Speaker 2: you guys.
- 17:19Speaker 1: What? I wasn't on the last program. We had your
- 17:24Speaker 1: seat ready. Thank you. Yeah.
- 17:25Speaker 2: And the word that came up, which to me was
- 17:28Speaker 2: the word of the day, was historic. The offense is
- 17:34Speaker 2: historically good. Has been through six, yes. The defense is
- 17:38Speaker 2: historically bad. Has been through the last three. I mean,
- 17:43Speaker 2: that's a great paradox. It is incredible what is happening.
- 17:49Speaker 2: And in some ways, in a perverse way, it's like
- 17:53Speaker 2: going to, there's almost more interest. Like how's this going to,
- 17:56Speaker 2: how's this going to shake out because it's a historic
- 17:59Speaker 2: season of, you know, of extreme highs and extreme lows.
- 18:05Speaker 2: You usually don't get that. Okay. So, so there's that
- 18:11Speaker 2: now and Brad, you will get into the numbers.
- 18:14Speaker 1: I love this. He got, there's our first one. We
- 18:16Speaker 1: should have an overrun on how many times he.
- 18:18Speaker 2: Says that Cincinnati likes that because I think this is,
- 18:23Speaker 2: I think what we're talking about is about the conventional–
- 18:27Speaker 2: what I talk about is the conventional wisdom, the obvious thing.
- 18:29Speaker 2: He said Cincinnati wants to run the ball. And French
- 18:32Speaker 2: has not, even though he's been like 70% completion and
- 18:36Speaker 2: no interceptions, he's not established himself as a great passer.
- 18:40Speaker 2: So you would think, Tony, that, oh, stop the run,
- 18:43Speaker 2: make him beat you. But West Virginia's pass defense is
- 18:46Speaker 2: worse than his rush defense. So do you really want
- 18:50Speaker 2: to make him? Is he going to end up being
- 18:51Speaker 2: a mess to make her? In this game.
- 18:53Speaker 1: That is the thing, to your point. I mean, the
- 18:59Speaker 1: old boy transferred in, right? Right.
- 19:03Speaker 2: Georgia Southern.
- 19:04Speaker 1: Georgia Southern. Oh, by the way, he's the all-time passing
- 19:07Speaker 1: leader in the school's history. Yeah. So don't think he's
- 19:09Speaker 1: going to go out there. I mean, like, he can
- 19:12Speaker 1: throw it. He can throw it. Hasn't thrown a pick yet.
- 19:15Speaker 1: They're being very judicious, 134 attempts. They've only turned the
- 19:19Speaker 1: ball over twice so far. In their first five games
- 19:22Speaker 1: of the season? Yeah. I know. Listen, I don't want
- 19:25Speaker 1: to get into Brad's numbers. Go ahead.
- 19:26Speaker 3: Well, you have it, so I'll jump in with my
- 19:28Speaker 3: own number to my own segment before I start my
- 19:30Speaker 3: own segment.
- 19:30Speaker 2: Here's one thing, though, guys.
- 19:32Speaker 3: On that point, Hoppy, I think that's a fascinating part
- 19:36Speaker 3: of this game is, yeah, they want to run it.
- 19:39Speaker 3: West Virginia's run defense hasn't been great either. We'll get
- 19:41Speaker 3: into some of that. But Cincinnati does not want to
- 19:43Speaker 3: throw it and hasn't thrown it. In fact, no one
- 19:46Speaker 3: in Power Five has thrown for a smaller, shorter, average
- 19:51Speaker 3: depth of target than Cincinnati so yeah completion numbers great
- 19:54Speaker 3: no picks they're throwing everything underneath when they have to
- 19:57Speaker 3: throw they don't want to throw are they looking at
- 19:59Speaker 3: this going well I mean West Virginia's having trouble stopping
- 20:02Speaker 3: the pass We might air it out. So I do
- 20:04Speaker 3: think that's interesting. And if you're West Virginia, do you
- 20:07Speaker 3: want them to try and throw it on you? Because
- 20:10Speaker 3: the game plan is what defensively? What do you always
- 20:12Speaker 3: want to do defensively?
- 20:13Speaker 2: Stop the run.
- 20:14Speaker 3: Yes, but also make the other team do something they
- 20:17Speaker 3: don't want to do. Is that a win for West
- 20:19Speaker 3: Virginia if Cincinnati says, hey, we think we can attack
- 20:21Speaker 3: you through the air? I do think there's some psychology
- 20:24Speaker 3: to the game planning there of what Cincinnati tries to
- 20:26Speaker 3: do offensively. Take advantage of a struggling West Virginia unit
- 20:29Speaker 3: or just say, We don't do that. We don't like
- 20:31Speaker 3: to do that. We're just going to try and.
- 20:33Speaker 1: Run it anyway.
- 20:34Speaker 2: It's a win unless French completes an eight-yard pass and
- 20:39Speaker 2: the guy goes for 30 yards. Correct.
- 20:41Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that's the obvious, not the win. But
- 20:43Speaker 3: I'm saying from the very beginning, if they decide to
- 20:45Speaker 3: go away from what they do, is that just a
- 20:47Speaker 3: short-term win?
- 20:48Speaker 2: Until you see the results and maybe you come in
- 20:49Speaker 2: and go, no, it.
- 20:50Speaker 1: Wasn't a win.
- 20:50Speaker 2: A couple of the real quick things. Bridge Day Saturday,
- 20:52Speaker 2: people should be aware of the traffic. By the way,
- 20:55Speaker 2: it's 876 feet. Excuse me? It's 876 feet from the
- 21:00Speaker 2: bridge to the to the bottom.
- 21:02Speaker 1: Would you tandem jump down.
- 21:05Speaker 2: No no don't like heights would not do that no
- 21:08Speaker 2: Sam would you can't do heights.
- 21:10Speaker 1: No no need no no necessary for me.
- 21:15Speaker 2: Jeb Corliss a base jumper says you can either learn
- 21:17Speaker 2: to control your fears or you can allow your fears
- 21:20Speaker 2: to control you I would add or you could not
- 21:23Speaker 2: do it that's.
- 21:25Speaker 1: Or just walk around scared as hell it's good with
- 21:27Speaker 1: me just walk around or drive over the bridge do
- 21:29Speaker 1: that Homecoming, 105th Homecoming.
- 21:33Speaker 2: And I didn't, you guys are going to, I didn't
- 21:36Speaker 2: know this, even though I'm a graduate of the Land
- 21:39Speaker 2: Grant Institution.
- 21:40Speaker 1: Honorary doctorate member of the Land Grant Institution. Honorary.
- 21:44Speaker 2: So in the fight song, when they say, and let
- 21:48Speaker 2: us pledge now to her anew, others may be black
- 21:52Speaker 2: or crimson.
- 21:54Speaker 1: Okay.
- 21:55Speaker 2: And that's a reference to Washington and Jefferson.
- 21:58Speaker 1: Oh, really? Really. So West Virginia. That was our big rival.
- 22:03Speaker 1: That was the big rival.
- 22:04Speaker 2: The first homecoming game was 1926. And it was against
- 22:13Speaker 2: Washington and Jefferson, which was at the time the biggest rival.
- 22:16Speaker 2: And the fight song was written actually in like 1921
- 22:19Speaker 2: or 22. But the first time it was performed at
- 22:21Speaker 2: a homecoming game. It was the first homecoming, 1926.
- 22:24Speaker 1: Wow.
- 22:25Speaker 2: And again, one line is, others may like black and crimson,
- 22:28Speaker 2: which is Washington and Jefferson.
- 22:30Speaker 1: And you know, Hop.
- 22:31Speaker 2: That was a good one, but that wasn't an obvious observation.
- 22:33Speaker 1: That was very good about you.
- 22:35Speaker 2: I thought you guys would go, everybody knows that.
- 22:36Speaker 1: If Vin Scully was doing Saturday's game, he would go,
- 22:40Speaker 1: and you know, folks, he'd do the whole thing. And
- 22:44Speaker 1: he would say, and that's part of the fight song.
- 22:47Speaker 1: And isn't it ironic that last week, West Virginia ran
- 22:50Speaker 1: 104 snaps against And that is only second to the
- 22:55Speaker 1: 1928 game where Washington and Jefferson was the opponent and
- 22:59Speaker 1: West Virginia ran 110. Holy cow. Yeah, so W and
- 23:04Speaker 1: J figures. W and J, little did they know, figuring
- 23:07Speaker 1: prominently in homecoming 2026. Yes, they do. 110 snaps. Wow.
- 23:12Speaker 1: In that game.
- 23:13Speaker 2: By the way, in a 26 game, which Washington and
- 23:16Speaker 2: Jefferson won, they went on to play in the Rose Bowl.
- 23:20Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, it was wild.
- 23:22Speaker 2: Imagine that. This got back.
- 23:25Speaker 1: I bet you they took a train out of Grafton
- 23:27Speaker 1: when they left. Grafton, great train town.
- 23:29Speaker 2: And finally, and this, you know, again, more rabbit holes.
- 23:33Speaker 2: So the passing of Mike Ditka, and I thought, did
- 23:35Speaker 2: Mike Ditka ever play at Mountaineer Field?
- 23:37Speaker 1: And he did.
- 23:38Speaker 2: He did because he was on Pitt's team. He played
- 23:41Speaker 2: at Mountaineer Field in 1950, old Mountaineer Field, 1959. Wow.
- 23:43Speaker 2: And 1960 in Pittsburgh. In the game in 1960, that
- 23:45Speaker 2: Pitt won like 42. 42-0, he called a touchdown pass.
- 23:54Speaker 2: So Mike Ditka, there is a West Virginia connection to
- 23:57Speaker 2: Mike Ditka. He played at least twice against West Virginia.
- 23:59Speaker 1: One of the all-time iconic figures in the sport of football.
- 24:05Speaker 1: Thank you, Hoppy.
- 24:06Speaker 2: You're welcome.
- 24:06Speaker 1: Those were some obvious, some not obvious, but it was
- 24:08Speaker 1: very good.
- 24:09Speaker 2: Some just like out there somewhere.
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- 25:16Speaker 2: All right.
- 25:18Speaker 1: Are you going over to the coronation today? Yes.
- 25:21Speaker 2: The investiture.
- 25:22Speaker 1: Excuse me?
- 25:23Speaker 2: Investiture, it's called.
- 25:26Speaker 1: So President Benson, P1 listener to this program, is getting investitured?
- 25:30Speaker 2: I don't know if you use it as a.
- 25:32Speaker 1: I mean, what is that? It's an inauguration, right?
- 25:36Speaker 2: It's his inauguration.
- 25:38Speaker 1: Investiture seems like they're putting some form of clothing on him.
- 25:41Speaker 2: Well, it's... You can't verb it. I think it's a noun.
- 25:44Speaker 1: But the....
- 25:47Speaker 2: It's what you call, I don't know that much about it,
- 25:49Speaker 2: it's what you call it when you inaugurate a new
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- 25:54Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm going.
- 25:55Speaker 3: Are you?
- 25:56Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in. You in? Brad, you're going? Yeah, I'm going.
- 25:59Speaker 1: You guys want to sit together?
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- 26:11Speaker 1: Three slap dicks before the investiture.
- 26:13Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 26:13Speaker 1: That'd be good.
- 26:14Speaker 2: Geez. Knowing Benson, he should have hosted us. We should
- 26:18Speaker 2: have done the investiture, right?
- 26:21Speaker 1: He'd probably be all right with that. So does he
- 26:23Speaker 1: get to where? Like, they put anything on him?
- 26:25Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm going. We'll find out. I've never
- 26:27Speaker 2: been to an investiture, to my knowledge.
- 26:29Speaker 1: All these years?
- 26:32Speaker 2: I don't think so. Where is it?
- 26:34Speaker 1: CAC, right?
- 26:36Speaker 2: Clay?
- 26:36Speaker 1: Yeah, it's over there, right, Brad? Okay.
- 26:41Speaker 2: I'm not there yet. It's the next thing on the agenda.
- 26:43Speaker 2: Get there after this.
- 26:44Speaker 1: I'm just going to head over near the Creative Arts Center.
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- 27:47Speaker 3: The opening segment here we've really already been through. This
- 27:51Speaker 3: is a wild and unusual situation is that you come
- 27:54Speaker 3: into this with the offense having run for 900-plus yards
- 27:57Speaker 3: in the last three games. You're averaging 32 points per
- 28:00Speaker 3: game during that stretch.
- 28:02Speaker 2: And you haven't won one of those. Yeah, that's weird.
- 28:04Speaker 1: Right?
- 28:04Speaker 2: As we know, defense on the.
- 28:05Speaker 3: Other side has given up 46 points per game. Guys,
- 28:08Speaker 3: that's obviously got to change. There's my obvious observation heading
- 28:12Speaker 3: into this week. You're getting Cincinnati one of the more
- 28:14Speaker 3: explosive rushing attacks in Power 4, but also a Cincinnati
- 28:18Speaker 3: defense that's been really vulnerable among the conference's most vulnerable,
- 28:22Speaker 3: which we'll get into some of these numbers. So it's
- 28:24Speaker 3: a matchup where both teams should have opportunities to score.
- 28:28Speaker 3: Let's find out how you do that. Number one, I
- 28:30Speaker 3: think the biggest key Slash question is, will West Virginia
- 28:33Speaker 3: be able to slow Cincinnati's rushing attack? As was outlined
- 28:37Speaker 3: by Hoppy, this is a really good one. Almost six
- 28:40Speaker 3: yards per rushing attempt. They're averaging 230 per game. Tony,
- 28:44Speaker 3: you mentioned they're 12th nationally. Here's one to keep an
- 28:47Speaker 3: eye on because this has been a problem over the
- 28:48Speaker 3: last three games. Cincinnati's fourth in the power four in
- 28:53Speaker 3: explosive run rate. So West Virginia has given up some
- 28:56Speaker 3: of those. Can you shut that down or slow it down?
- 28:58Speaker 3: I shouldn't say shut it down. Can you slow that
- 29:00Speaker 3: down and not give up as many? We'll get into
- 29:02Speaker 3: some more numbers on that. Cincinnati's offensive line.
- 29:06Speaker 1: Very good.
- 29:07Speaker 2: Rich told you earlier this week there's.
- 29:09Speaker 3: Some that have their offensive linemen with three potential NFL
- 29:12Speaker 3: guys on that line. They're fifth among P4 schools in
- 29:16Speaker 3: yards before contact. That's also been an area West Virginia
- 29:20Speaker 3: has struggled with. leading to some of those big plays.
- 29:23Speaker 3: So you've got to keep an eye on that. West
- 29:26Speaker 3: Virginia's defense has given up those big runs at a
- 29:29Speaker 3: pretty high rate, 13.2% explosive run rate allowed. So that's
- 29:35Speaker 3: one every eight runs has gone for an explosive, so
- 29:38Speaker 3: basically 10 yards or more on the run. Cincinnati, as
- 29:41Speaker 3: I mentioned, the fifth in power four in explosive run rate.
- 29:44Speaker 3: So just start right there. Can you settle down some
- 29:48Speaker 3: of those big giant run plays? They want to do it.
- 29:51Speaker 3: You've given it up. So before you even get to
- 29:52Speaker 3: passing hop, that's going to be an area to watch.
- 29:55Speaker 3: Can you make them march down the field, not just
- 29:58Speaker 3: big play you? Little side note, bonus stat.
- 30:03Speaker 1: OK. A little something from the chef.
- 30:04Speaker 3: Haven't done this before. So if you look at all schools,
- 30:08Speaker 3: all levels in explosive run rate, 318 schools in total.
- 30:12Speaker 3: Thought I'd go a little deeper for you today.
- 30:14Speaker 1: Wow, that is a lot of schools.
- 30:15Speaker 3: So Cincinnati is fifth among just power four teams in
- 30:19Speaker 3: explosive run rate. But if you list all those schools out,
- 30:22Speaker 3: all 318, number two nationally in explosive run rate would
- 30:26Speaker 3: be the Fairmont State Falcons just right down the road here.
- 30:28Speaker 1: Excuse me?
- 30:29Speaker 3: And number three in explosive run rate among all teams
- 30:32Speaker 3: in all levels across all of college football.
- 30:34Speaker 1: Number one?
- 30:35Speaker 3: Number three.
- 30:36Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 30:36Speaker 3: Would be former West Virginia standout receiver John Pennington and
- 30:40Speaker 3: West Virginia State Yellow Jackets.
- 30:42Speaker 1: Two teams from the same league.
- 30:43Speaker 2: How about that? Two and three.
- 30:45Speaker 1: Where's West Virginia?
- 30:48Speaker 3: It kind of averaged, believe it or not. I'll talk
- 30:50Speaker 3: about that here in a minute. Yeah, West Virginia's explosive
- 30:53Speaker 3: run rate is semi-average among power four teams. been one
- 30:58Speaker 3: of the best explosive pass teams in the country, but
- 31:00Speaker 3: run rate's about average. You're more doing it on a
- 31:03Speaker 3: down-by-down basis.
- 31:04Speaker 2: Because you're running so much, so it cuts down on
- 31:06Speaker 2: the percentage.
- 31:07Speaker 3: All right, so here's where I think the key, let's
- 31:09Speaker 3: niche the key down even further. So you played really
- 31:13Speaker 3: well against Virginia defensively, right? We can all agree that
- 31:15Speaker 3: was the high watermark of this defense.
- 31:17Speaker 1: Yes.
- 31:18Speaker 3: You know, you go back and look, you still gave
- 31:20Speaker 3: up five yards per carry, which is not where you
- 31:22Speaker 3: want to be. It started out like, oh, what's going
- 31:24Speaker 3: on there? But West Virginia had the ability to slow
- 31:27Speaker 3: Virginia on some first downs, which then jacked up their flow.
- 31:31Speaker 3: And that's part of what led to your success. So
- 31:33Speaker 3: that's what you're trying to do Saturday. Listen, I've said
- 31:36Speaker 3: it a bunch. You don't have to suddenly become the
- 31:38Speaker 3: 96 defense, which is a big ask, right? You go
- 31:40Speaker 3: from what you've done to the best in program history.
- 31:43Speaker 3: But just get a few more stops. And specifically, can
- 31:47Speaker 3: you slow them on first and second down? Can you
- 31:49Speaker 3: hold them to a two-yard run or a three-yard run
- 31:52Speaker 3: instead of allowing those six or seven yards? I think
- 31:55Speaker 3: that's where you start. Can you get them in second
- 31:59Speaker 3: and eight or third and seven instead of constantly being
- 32:02Speaker 3: in second and four when the whole playbook's available to you?
- 32:05Speaker 3: Cincinnati has been really good on standard down success rates,
- 32:10Speaker 3: and we've done that definition before, but non-passing downs. When
- 32:14Speaker 3: you're ahead of the sticks or on schedule, Cincinnati has
- 32:17Speaker 3: been really good. Their success rate's approximately about 52% in
- 32:20Speaker 3: those situations. It's nearly identical to what West Virginia is allowing,
- 32:25Speaker 3: which isn't very good. So that's an obvious area. You
- 32:28Speaker 3: have got to try and force them into passing downs
- 32:30Speaker 3: and then see if you can have some success. Prior
- 32:33Speaker 3: to the Arizona game for Cincinnati, when they had been
- 32:36Speaker 3: really rolling on the ground, they had averaged 5.4 yards
- 32:40Speaker 3: per first down rush and nearly eight per second down rush.
- 32:44Speaker 3: So to me, if you want to watch something, the
- 32:46Speaker 3: game within the game, watch first and second down. If
- 32:49Speaker 3: they're mushing you, mashing you up front, you've got a
- 32:52Speaker 3: big problem. If you're holding them and can force them
- 32:54Speaker 3: into passing situations, then maybe you can get after French
- 32:58Speaker 3: a little bit. Maybe you get a pick at that point.
- 33:00Speaker 3: But first and second down, I think, are just massive here.
- 33:03Speaker 1: You're going to have to alert statistician Jeff Soup Campbell
- 33:05Speaker 1: on that one and say, keep a running tab on
- 33:09Speaker 1: average yardage gain first, second downs.
- 33:12Speaker 2: And that's available. He'll be able to get that.
- 33:14Speaker 1: You think Soup will be able to handle that one?
- 33:15Speaker 2: Yeah, the elite statistician.
- 33:17Speaker 3: I think you can find that. And I would watch
- 33:18Speaker 3: that because if they're chewing you, On first and second,
- 33:21Speaker 3: you got a major problem there. So we talk so much, Hoppy,
- 33:24Speaker 3: about third down. I think this one's about first and
- 33:26Speaker 3: second primarily. All right, number two, West Virginia is going
- 33:29Speaker 3: to run the football with success, I would think. No
- 33:32Speaker 3: one's slowed this offense down yet. But here's what we've
- 33:35Speaker 3: talked about. Rich has talked about this. The pressure that
- 33:37Speaker 3: exists on this offense right now is pretty steep. You've
- 33:41Speaker 3: almost got to be perfect. You were not last week.
- 33:44Speaker 3: Two fourth down stops inside the five. One of them
- 33:46Speaker 3: was a fumble. A fumble that turned into a pick six.
- 33:49Speaker 3: You're just going to ask this offense, you have got
- 33:51Speaker 3: to be really good. You can't have the turnovers and
- 33:54Speaker 3: you can't end in field goals either. You're going to
- 33:56Speaker 3: have to run it on this team and keep running
- 33:59Speaker 3: it and run it into the end zone. Arizona just
- 34:02Speaker 3: went for 238 on the ground against Cincinnati. The Bearcats
- 34:06Speaker 3: are 64th among 68 power four teams in explosive run rate.
- 34:11Speaker 3: They give up explosive runs. So West Virginia hasn't had
- 34:14Speaker 3: a ton of those. They might on Saturday, guys. I mean,
- 34:17Speaker 3: you've got two dudes that can run through tackles. They
- 34:20Speaker 3: might break some big plays on Saturday. And if you do,
- 34:23Speaker 3: get all the way to the house. Don't end up
- 34:25Speaker 3: on the five and settle for a field goal. Take
- 34:27Speaker 3: it to the house. But I think Hawkins and Cook
- 34:29Speaker 3: have a chance for some big running plays in this
- 34:32Speaker 3: particular game. Go ahead, Reagan, ask something there.
- 34:35Speaker 1: No, I was just thinking, you are going to be
- 34:37Speaker 1: without one of your speedbacks, Chris Talley. And I know
- 34:39Speaker 1: he hasn't had a ton yet, but they've already ruled
- 34:41Speaker 1: him out. Or Saturday.
- 34:43Speaker 3: Yeah, tally's out. But expect some more Latimer. Expect a
- 34:47Speaker 3: lot of Cook and Hawkins. And this is one where
- 34:48Speaker 3: they can cook. But now here's the feast or famine
- 34:51Speaker 3: part of this Cincinnati defense. So this is the next
- 34:53Speaker 3: part to watch. I do think there's a heck of
- 34:56Speaker 3: an opportunity for some big play, big runs. But Cincinnati's
- 34:59Speaker 3: defense also has a stuff rate. The times that they're stopped,
- 35:03Speaker 3: stop runners for zero or for no gain or minus
- 35:07Speaker 3: yardage on a running play. They do that about one
- 35:10Speaker 3: every five running attempts. So they are giving up big plays,
- 35:14Speaker 3: or they're stuffing you. So when do those stuffs come?
- 35:17Speaker 3: Because they're going to say the same thing about West Virginia.
- 35:19Speaker 3: Put West Virginia in third and nine, and let's see
- 35:22Speaker 3: if we can go make something happen. Now, they still
- 35:24Speaker 3: have to worry about Hawkins scrambling away from you, but
- 35:27Speaker 3: they're going to look to have first and second down
- 35:29Speaker 3: success in stuffing you.
- 35:31Speaker 2: Keep an eye on that.
- 35:33Speaker 3: Explosive passing. That matchup favors West Virginia's offense. And I
- 35:39Speaker 3: think that's still one of the underrated parts of this
- 35:41Speaker 3: offense is how good West Virginia's been at the big play.
- 35:45Speaker 3: The Mountaineers are fourth nationally in explosive pass rate and
- 35:48Speaker 3: ninth among power four teams in yards per attempt. So
- 35:52Speaker 3: I said Cincinnati sits at the very bottom of power
- 35:54Speaker 3: four in average depth of target. When you talk about
- 35:57Speaker 3: yards per attempt, basically the same stat. West Virginia is ninth,
- 36:00Speaker 3: top 10 nationally, because what do they do? They're trying
- 36:02Speaker 3: to throw it down the field. So we know Hawkins
- 36:06Speaker 3: has had some trouble with completion percentage underneath. But man,
- 36:09Speaker 3: he's been a heck of a home run hitter. When
- 36:11Speaker 3: you go deep, that has worked. And it's been one
- 36:14Speaker 3: of the keys, I think, to this offense. You hit
- 36:16Speaker 3: a couple deep, and now that Cincinnati defense hoppy has
- 36:19Speaker 3: a heck of a problem figuring out what you're going
- 36:21Speaker 3: to do. The Bearcats rank 124th nationally in passing yards
- 36:25Speaker 3: allowed per game. And then overall, when you combine their
- 36:28Speaker 3: running and their passing defense, they're 60th out of 68
- 36:32Speaker 3: powerful defenses in explosive play rate. So running and passing.
- 36:36Speaker 3: There should be some big plays that come along with
- 36:39Speaker 3: this game.
- 36:40Speaker 2: So you like the over.
- 36:41Speaker 3: Let's talk about, well, West Virginia 6-0.
- 36:43Speaker 2: To the over.
- 36:44Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way.
- 36:45Speaker 2: And it's what, 63, 62, something?
- 36:48Speaker 3: 63.5 last I checked. I'll check here in just a second. Okay,
- 36:51Speaker 3: here's another key. Let's get back to this finishing drives
- 36:54Speaker 3: like we talked about, that you have to score touchdowns
- 36:56Speaker 3: if you're West Virginia to try and protect this defense
- 36:59Speaker 3: a little bit. West Virginia is averaging 4.3. points per
- 37:03Speaker 3: scoring opportunity. It's about 42nd nationally, so it's good but
- 37:06Speaker 3: hasn't been elite. Cincinnati's defense, 4.2 points per allowed per
- 37:11Speaker 3: scoring opportunity. So there's some opportunity here to finish drives
- 37:16Speaker 3: and score some points. So keep an eye on what
- 37:18Speaker 3: West Virginia is able to do when they get down
- 37:20Speaker 3: in that scoring zone. So that's really inside the 40.
- 37:24Speaker 3: Convert those into touchdowns. West Virginia is 23 of 28
- 37:27Speaker 3: on its red zone trips, which is an 82% clip,
- 37:30Speaker 3: but some of that includes field goals. Again, I do
- 37:33Speaker 3: think there's some opportunities for some plays that come outside
- 37:36Speaker 3: the scoring zone as well. Cincinnati's been very good, guys.
- 37:42Speaker 3: So your defense is looking for some small wins, Hoppy.
- 37:45Speaker 3: Hold them to a couple field goals instead of touchdowns.
- 37:48Speaker 3: They've been third so far this season in red zone
- 37:51Speaker 3: conversion rate. They trail only Georgia and Alabama when they
- 37:53Speaker 3: get down inside the scoring zone. So can you get
- 37:56Speaker 3: some stops there?
- 37:56Speaker 1: I was just looking at that. They've been in the
- 37:58Speaker 1: red zone 20 times. They've scored. 17 touchdowns, no field goals.
- 38:05Speaker 2: Correct.
- 38:06Speaker 3: That's why they're third nationally.
- 38:07Speaker 1: Yeah. They go in there and they go get themselves
- 38:10Speaker 1: some points. Yeah.
- 38:11Speaker 3: Stops on first and second. Stops inside the red zone,
- 38:13Speaker 3: holding the field goals. There's your formula for improving defensively
- 38:17Speaker 3: this week.
- 38:18Speaker 2: All right.
- 38:18Speaker 3: Turnover battles. Does that matter, Hoppy, to turnovers change games?
- 38:21Speaker 2: Yes, it usually does.
- 38:22Speaker 3: So West Virginia, we mentioned, had some trouble with that
- 38:25Speaker 3: against Arizona. And they were super costly ones, too. They
- 38:27Speaker 3: weren't just turnovers. Cincinnati's been very good here. They're plus
- 38:31Speaker 3: five in turnover margin. That's 17th nationally. West Virginia is
- 38:35Speaker 3: even in this category. That'll be something we keep an
- 38:38Speaker 3: eye on who wins the turnover battle.
- 38:39Speaker 1: We need regression to the mean.
- 38:41Speaker 3: Here's a sneaky one. Here's a sneaky one to watch.
- 38:44Speaker 3: This is a good on good matchup. I just mentioned
- 38:46Speaker 3: all the problems Cincinnati's defense has had. Well, here's something
- 38:50Speaker 3: they're good at. They are fifth among power four teams
- 38:53Speaker 3: in missed tackle rate. So they don't miss a lot
- 38:55Speaker 3: of tackles defensively. You can hit them for big plays,
- 38:58Speaker 3: but if they get around you, they're making the tackle.
- 39:00Speaker 3: They're going against two of the best in the country
- 39:03Speaker 3: right now in Hawkins and Cook. Cook is third nationally
- 39:06Speaker 3: in missed tackles forced. Hawkins is sixth nationally in missed
- 39:10Speaker 3: tackles forced. Among all runners, he's first among quarterbacks. Which
- 39:14Speaker 3: of those good on good? That could be a really
- 39:16Speaker 3: important part of this. Can they get West Virginia's two
- 39:19Speaker 3: stars on the ground, or do those two guys continue
- 39:21Speaker 3: to do what they've done to every team and run
- 39:24Speaker 3: right by people, around.
- 39:25Speaker 2: People, and through people?
- 39:27Speaker 1: That's all good. One more.
- 39:28Speaker 3: Some historical takeaways.
- 39:30Speaker 2: Trends.
- 39:31Speaker 3: Cincinnati coming off a bye over the last three seasons
- 39:34Speaker 3: is 2-4. Coming off a loss the last three seasons,
- 39:38Speaker 3: they're 4-15. As a road underdog, which they currently are
- 39:42Speaker 3: as we record, they're a road underdog, which also tells
- 39:45Speaker 3: you something. As bad as West Virginia has looked defensively,
- 39:47Speaker 3: you come into this game still as a favorite.
- 39:49Speaker 1: Slight.
- 39:50Speaker 3: As a road underdog, the last three years, Cincinnati, 4-9.
- 39:54Speaker 3: The last four meetings against West Virginia, 0-4. Current line
- 39:58Speaker 3: sitting 1.5. Total was 63.5. I think it's the second largest,
- 40:03Speaker 3: highest total of the week.
- 40:05Speaker 2: Good numbers. So, based on all those numbers, question to
- 40:08Speaker 2: you guys is that they didn't... Arizona dominated their game.
- 40:13Speaker 2: Cincinnati didn't score until late. The game was over.
- 40:16Speaker 1: So, that.
- 40:19Speaker 2: And they ran for fewer than 100 yards. 74. Does
- 40:24Speaker 2: that tell you that some of those rush numbers by
- 40:26Speaker 2: them are inflated? Are opponent adjusted?
- 40:31Speaker 1: You're talking about Western Carolina, Miami of Ohio, Boston College.
- 40:35Speaker 1: Those were the previous opponents. Kansas State was the team,
- 40:38Speaker 1: the one league when that was at home. We'll see.
- 40:42Speaker 3: We'll talk about that Monday morning when we record. We'll
- 40:45Speaker 3: have to see there. I mean, that's your hope. That's
- 40:48Speaker 3: your hope. But again, You're also going against a West
- 40:51Speaker 3: Virginia defense that has struggled mightily the last three weeks
- 40:54Speaker 3: to even contain the run. All three teams you've played
- 40:56Speaker 3: have run the ball against you as well. So we'll
- 40:59Speaker 3: have to see if that's opponent adjusted. But West Virginia
- 41:01Speaker 3: might be. The fear for West Virginia is that they're
- 41:03Speaker 3: one of those that you say you list with the
- 41:06Speaker 3: other schools, right? You don't list as one of the
- 41:08Speaker 3: better defenses. Can they stand up and have a better
- 41:11Speaker 3: performance this week? And again, just a few plays in
- 41:14Speaker 3: those areas I think will make a big difference here.
- 41:16Speaker 2: Other question is, so does West Virginia have to score 42?
- 41:20Speaker 1: I don't think so.
- 41:23Speaker 2: We'll see.
- 41:24Speaker 1: Need to get over 30.
- 41:26Speaker 2: We'll see.
- 41:28Speaker 3: It simply depends on can you get a few more stops.
- 41:31Speaker 3: If you're asking are they going to play like they've
- 41:33Speaker 3: played the last three weeks, then that might not be enough.
- 41:35Speaker 3: If there's an improvement coming and you can make them
- 41:38Speaker 3: one-dimensional and you can handle that one-dimension as you did
- 41:41Speaker 3: against Virginia.
- 41:42Speaker 2: Then 42 will be more than enough.
- 41:45Speaker 3: How do you know that? How do you sit here
- 41:46Speaker 3: now and have any Any idea for certain what's going
- 41:50Speaker 3: to happen on Saturday?
- 41:52Speaker 1: If you put your gold and blue glasses on and
- 41:56Speaker 1: you just say, okay, and I'm not trying to be funny,
- 42:00Speaker 1: it has to get better. I mean, it can't get
- 42:03Speaker 1: much worse.
- 42:04Speaker 2: Well, does it have to get better?
- 42:06Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think the stat that you pointed out,
- 42:10Speaker 1: their scoring rate, Arizona's scoring rate at the end of
- 42:12Speaker 1: the game and the number of snaps it took them
- 42:15Speaker 1: to score, like, That's almost impossible to replicate, and again,
- 42:19Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be funny. So you would think
- 42:21Speaker 1: there's going to be some form of improvement. And again,
- 42:27Speaker 1: you just played the number one all-time passing leader in
- 42:29Speaker 1: Arizona history, and Mestemaker obviously is very good too, the
- 42:32Speaker 1: outlier being the Iowa State quarterback, Rainer. So... My hope
- 42:42Speaker 1: and gut says it's got to be in some form
- 42:45Speaker 1: better than it was. I don't know what that is.
- 42:49Speaker 2: Rich said either on your show or on the press
- 42:53Speaker 2: conference that Insanity is doing the same thing, expecting different results.
- 42:58Speaker 2: So I don't know what they're doing differently or going
- 43:01Speaker 2: to do differently.
- 43:04Speaker 3: Match-ups matter, and you would hope this particular match-up helps
- 43:10Speaker 3: your defense. We knew going into last week that was
- 43:12Speaker 3: going to be a tough ask against a really talented
- 43:15Speaker 3: quarterback that had played a lot of games and could recognize.
- 43:18Speaker 1: And it was.
- 43:19Speaker 3: He tore you up through the air. This is an
- 43:21Speaker 3: offense built on running the football. You would think you
- 43:25Speaker 3: could have more success. And again, I'm not saying you're
- 43:27Speaker 3: going to hold them to 10, but can you get
- 43:30Speaker 3: them in those first and second and longs, then have
- 43:32Speaker 3: a chance to find some pressure or cover for a
- 43:35Speaker 3: play and get off the field? That's your hope.
- 43:39Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 43:39Speaker 2: We'll see if that comes to fruition.
- 43:42Speaker 1: Three guys before the game. Coming up, we'll talk a
- 43:44Speaker 1: little basketball here. Then we'll get into textual healing. But
- 43:47Speaker 1: everyone's a funny guy nowadays. You ever notice that? Oh, yeah.
- 43:50Speaker 1: Everyone's a funny guy. We're not into textual healing technically yet.
- 43:54Speaker 1: Guy did write in, though, and said, is it true Noah,
- 43:58Speaker 1: from Noah's Ark fame, had his boat serviced at Lewendel?
- 44:02Speaker 1: So now people, I mean. No, he did not, and
- 44:05Speaker 1: we can confirm that. I mean, they've done a lot
- 44:08Speaker 1: of big-time boat stuff with the James Bond thing, providing
- 44:11Speaker 1: those boats for the James Bond movies, but he did
- 44:14Speaker 1: not serve. They haven't been around that long. I mean,
- 44:16Speaker 1: it may have been 40 years. Noah's a long time
- 44:18Speaker 1: before that.
- 44:18Speaker 2: And he does not, they don't use pitch.
- 44:21Speaker 1: No, but if Noah did, if Noah was able to
- 44:25Speaker 1: run it by the river, down the river there and
- 44:27Speaker 1: bring it over to Llewyn, I'm sure Lou would look
- 44:29Speaker 1: at it. You know, and kind of just, like, give
- 44:31Speaker 1: it an idea. Like, yeah, we can do this. We
- 44:32Speaker 1: can service that. We could do it. But if you
- 44:34Speaker 1: are taking your boat out, by all means, Lewendl Marine Sales,
- 44:37Speaker 1: the largest pontoon boat dealer in the state of West Virginia,
- 44:40Speaker 1: can do whatever. And listen, if NOAA's contacting them, I
- 44:43Speaker 1: guarantee you they can take care of your craft, recognized
- 44:46Speaker 1: as the state of West Virginia's experts in pontoon boating,
- 44:49Speaker 1: the only Honda Marine premium dealership in the state of
- 44:52Speaker 1: West Virginia. It is Lewendl Marine Sales. Boy, I'm really
- 44:56Speaker 1: glad I've been able to shut this mic off. I
- 44:58Speaker 1: think I've got about six coughs and over under on
- 45:00Speaker 1: coughs for the rest of the show. Yeah, all right.
- 45:01Speaker 2: Two and a half.
- 45:03Speaker 1: Working on a little early fall cold.
- 45:05Speaker 2: You know, is it or is it allergies?
- 45:07Speaker 1: I'll go with allergies.
- 45:08Speaker 2: Fall allergies. That's what I'm going with. Fall allergies.
- 45:10Speaker 1: Go with it. Three guys also brought to it. You
- 45:11Speaker 1: think Tudor's going to be busy this weekend with that
- 45:14Speaker 1: bridge thing going, people? That'll be it because there's a Tudor's.
- 45:16Speaker 2: Fayetteville, right?
- 45:17Speaker 1: Yeah, right near that. Right near the bridge. Right near
- 45:20Speaker 1: the bridge.
- 45:20Speaker 3: And get you a biscuit, two, or protein bowls.
- 45:22Speaker 1: Yeah. Whether you're going to Bridge Day or any Tudors
- 45:26Speaker 1: this weekend and beyond, you can check out their great
- 45:29Speaker 1: new high-protein bowls. They got them a bunch of different ways.
- 45:36Speaker 1: Fluffy eggs, always a good way to start something. And
- 45:38Speaker 1: then you get your meats, you got your sausage, your bacon,
- 45:41Speaker 1: or you just want to go straight vegetable. You can
- 45:43Speaker 1: do the vegetable. Just do it at Tudors Biscuit World.
- 45:48Speaker 1: Lots of protein. All the way around. Saw a doctor
- 45:51Speaker 1: the other day say you need to eat more fiber, too. Yeah,
- 45:54Speaker 1: fiber important. Fiber is very, very important.
- 45:56Speaker 2: Are you not a fiber guy?
- 45:57Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I mean, I make that wheat bread. Oh, yeah.
- 46:01Speaker 1: She said you can't eat enough beans. Yeah, that's what
- 46:04Speaker 1: the doctor said. Internal doctor. She said you can't eat
- 46:07Speaker 1: enough beans. So add that in there.
- 46:11Speaker 2: Some would disagree with that, I think.
- 46:13Speaker 1: Well, this lady, I mean, that's what she does. She
- 46:14Speaker 1: does gut health. So she said.
- 46:17Speaker 2: Beans also creates some other issues. Let not go there.
- 46:25Speaker 1: Check it out at Tudor's Biscuit World. Basketball, as we said, Sunday,
- 46:31Speaker 1: three bells. Didn't the season just end? Yeah, it literally did.
- 46:35Speaker 2: Weren't we just in South Carolina somewhere or Charleston?
- 46:40Speaker 1: I spent last night. Let's go. Are we still pissed
- 46:43Speaker 1: off that we lost to Clemson?
- 46:45Speaker 3: Yes.
- 46:45Speaker 1: I'm still mad. I'm literally still sitting here right now mad.
- 46:49Speaker 2: Our biggest non-traditional rival, rival, Clemson.
- 46:52Speaker 3: And Ohio State, for that matter. Those are two wins.
- 46:54Speaker 1: Yeah, can we play them back? They just lost a kick.
- 46:56Speaker 1: Clemson did for the season with a knee. Yeah, that's
- 46:58Speaker 1: a big loss. Big loss. So did you talk to
- 47:04Speaker 1: Ross about this at all? Is it a standard basketball game,
- 47:08Speaker 1: or will they be at some point going, all right,
- 47:10Speaker 1: that's practice against zone?
- 47:12Speaker 2: No, it should be standard basketball game.
- 47:13Speaker 1: It's like 40 minutes of ball. Officials with jerseys and
- 47:16Speaker 1: the whole thing. Whistles, too.
- 47:17Speaker 2: They're going to bring their whistles.
- 47:18Speaker 1: They're going to do the whistles. Music.
- 47:20Speaker 2: I think.
- 47:20Speaker 3: Well, I don't know about that.
- 47:21Speaker 1: It'll sound like a basketball.
- 47:22Speaker 3: I didn't talk to the Game Ops folks in Maryland,
- 47:24Speaker 3: but as far as the basketball part of it, it's
- 47:26Speaker 3: going to be a game.
- 47:27Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 47:28Speaker 2: It's a good one.
- 47:28Speaker 1: They had under 3,000. They had like 20-some hundred at
- 47:33Speaker 1: their game against Georgia Tech. So I'm assuming Sunday. Probably
- 47:35Speaker 1: something similar. That was last Sunday. So probably like 3,000, 4,000
- 47:38Speaker 1: in there. So it'll be nice. I mean, it won't
- 47:40Speaker 1: be obviously what it'll be in the season, but it'll
- 47:43Speaker 1: be fine. Hey, man. God, we've been talking and talking
- 47:48Speaker 1: and talking about it. And they have already, I was
- 47:50Speaker 1: thinking about it this morning. They have now been together
- 47:54Speaker 1: for four months and change. They've been playing together. So
- 47:57Speaker 1: this will be the first time against teams in another jersey.
- 48:01Speaker 1: that they go against. So it's kind of historic and
- 48:03Speaker 1: kind of be interesting to.
- 48:04Speaker 3: See how it works. That's the best part of this, right?
- 48:07Speaker 3: I mean, the win or loss doesn't matter. You're going
- 48:09Speaker 3: to go in there and try and win. It'd be
- 48:10Speaker 3: great if you get a win. But I think that's
- 48:12Speaker 3: what this team needs now is you can go see
- 48:14Speaker 3: what they have instead of going against each other. And listen,
- 48:18Speaker 3: you're not easing into this thing. Just like the non-conference schedule,
- 48:21Speaker 3: you're starting with what is a very good team, potential
- 48:23Speaker 3: NCAA tournament team here in Maryland. Year two with Buzz Williams,
- 48:27Speaker 3: they really struggled last year, did the Terps. So you
- 48:30Speaker 3: knew Year two, Buzz was going to get that turned around.
- 48:32Speaker 3: That guy's won everywhere he's been. This will be a
- 48:34Speaker 3: typical Buzz Williams team, and I think that's the first
- 48:37Speaker 3: test here. They crashed the offensive glass, had 16 offensive
- 48:41Speaker 3: rebounds against Georgia Tech in that exhibition, and that's a
- 48:44Speaker 3: big part of this. One of the things Ross has
- 48:47Speaker 3: preached all summer hop to these guys is, listen, you
- 48:50Speaker 3: have got to go hard. That's where the games are won.
- 48:54Speaker 3: When the shot goes up, Who gets the ball? That's
- 48:56Speaker 3: the game. That's actually the game is who gets the ball.
- 48:59Speaker 3: So this will be a great test for these guys
- 49:01Speaker 3: to see exactly what that means when you get other jerseys,
- 49:05Speaker 3: not just your scout team, other jerseys with talented dudes
- 49:08Speaker 3: going at it. They've got two of the best, if
- 49:11Speaker 3: they both play, two of the best offensive rebounders in
- 49:14Speaker 3: the country. And their star is Pharrell Payne, who was
- 49:17Speaker 3: at Texas A & M preseason, all big, big Ten performer.
- 49:21Speaker 3: Top 2% last year, guys, in all of college basketball
- 49:25Speaker 3: players in offensive rebound percentage. Actually, two years ago. He
- 49:28Speaker 3: only played a few games last year. Top 3% of
- 49:31Speaker 3: all college basketball players in his last full season that
- 49:34Speaker 3: he played at A & M in blocked shots. So
- 49:36Speaker 3: that's a dude. But here's what's fun. Here's what I'm
- 49:39Speaker 3: excited to watch. So he's a 6'9 wing that can
- 49:43Speaker 3: play inside, back to the basket. He can face you.
- 49:46Speaker 3: He can do a lot of different things. West Virginia
- 49:49Speaker 3: is going to throw multiple guys at him. You bring
- 49:51Speaker 3: Brennan Lorient, 6'9, super athletic guy that can go inside
- 49:55Speaker 3: or out. You have a guy that matches up profile-wise
- 49:58Speaker 3: right on him. B-Lo needs a break. B-Lo gets into
- 50:01Speaker 3: foul trouble. You're going to slide over 6'11 Mo Silla.
- 50:04Speaker 3: who can guard you on the perimeter, who can guard
- 50:06Speaker 3: you inside, and actually add some length on top of
- 50:09Speaker 3: that matchup. So that's one of the things, game within
- 50:11Speaker 3: the game, that I'm watching in this one will be
- 50:14Speaker 3: that matchup against a guy that's an all-league type of
- 50:17Speaker 3: player in one of the better leagues, and you've got
- 50:20Speaker 3: multiple guys you're going to throw at him at different times.
- 50:22Speaker 3: You can put Javen Buchanan on him for a little bit.
- 50:24Speaker 3: Traore could even go up. He's going to give away
- 50:26Speaker 3: a couple inches, but he could guard him. You've got
- 50:28Speaker 3: four or five guys that can guard their best player,
- 50:30Speaker 3: which will be fun to watch. DJ Wagner's a name
- 50:34Speaker 3: you may have heard. He's their point guard.
- 50:35Speaker 1: That's Milt's grandson.
- 50:37Speaker 3: Comes from Kentucky and then Arkansas. He's played 100 games
- 50:44Speaker 3: of college basketball, going against Miles Sadler in his first
- 50:47Speaker 3: game against Power 4 competition. So that'll be a fun test.
- 50:50Speaker 1: I was just going to bring that up. That literally
- 50:52Speaker 1: is Milt's grandson. That's how old we are.
- 50:54Speaker 3: Correct.
- 50:55Speaker 1: Milt Wagner, that's his grandson. His dad played in the
- 50:58Speaker 1: league as well. So yeah, you're right. Two at Kentucky,
- 51:01Speaker 1: one at Arkansas. and now at Maryland. So that'll be
- 51:05Speaker 1: a great matchup for the little guy, Miles Sadler, here
- 51:08Speaker 1: to start things off.
- 51:09Speaker 3: Yeah, they also have another guard, Caden House, who's a
- 51:12Speaker 3: four-star freshman that knows Miles intimately well. They battled last
- 51:16Speaker 3: year in the EYBL. He's from the other prep school
- 51:19Speaker 3: in Arizona there. So Caden House, I think he had
- 51:20Speaker 3: 14 against Georgia Tech. So he's really talented as well.
- 51:25Speaker 3: I mean, I could go down the list of all
- 51:26Speaker 3: their players. I've As excited as I was for basketball
- 51:30Speaker 3: to start, I've probably over-prepared for Maryland here. But that's
- 51:34Speaker 3: the highlights here. I think this is really just about
- 51:36Speaker 3: getting a look at West Virginia going against another team,
- 51:39Speaker 3: another team that thinks it's an NCAA tournament team. and
- 51:42Speaker 3: a team that's going to get after you defensively, get
- 51:44Speaker 3: on the offensive glass, and give your guys a chance
- 51:47Speaker 3: to see, like, all right, here's what we're talking about.
- 51:48Speaker 2: Like, this is for real.
- 51:49Speaker 1: Here we go.
- 51:50Speaker 2: Brad, this is my question to you because you've studied
- 51:52Speaker 2: this thing. You and Tony have been to a bunch
- 51:54Speaker 2: of practices, and you know that the talent level is
- 51:57Speaker 2: up significantly from last year. So complete this sentence. I
- 52:00Speaker 2: know they have a lot more talent in this team.
- 52:03Speaker 2: I just hope they can blank.
- 52:06Speaker 1: Win.
- 52:07Speaker 2: Well, okay. Let me talk execution. I hope that when
- 52:09Speaker 2: they're on, I hope that in their game, They're proficient
- 52:13Speaker 2: at blank.
- 52:14Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the single biggest question for this particular group,
- 52:19Speaker 3: it's not talent. It's not skill. I think you check
- 52:22Speaker 3: every box. It's not even guard. I think that will
- 52:26Speaker 3: be a little slow to come, but you'll overcome some
- 52:28Speaker 3: of that with your athletic ability. But they'll continue to
- 52:32Speaker 3: improve defensively, and this has a chance to be an
- 52:34Speaker 3: elite defensive team. When they get this figured out and
- 52:37Speaker 3: know where they're supposed to go on rotations, this could
- 52:39Speaker 3: be an elite, elite defensive team. My biggest question is
- 52:42Speaker 3: just when you get down, what happens? When you get
- 52:45Speaker 3: down on Sunday to this team, do you mope?
- 52:48Speaker 2: Do you press?
- 52:49Speaker 3: Can you not come back in it? We've said it
- 52:51Speaker 3: a million times. Last year, the best trait of that
- 52:54Speaker 3: team last year is they did not flinch. Up 17,
- 52:57Speaker 3: down 12, it did not matter. They kept playing each
- 53:00Speaker 3: single possession. Can this group do that? Because there's going
- 53:03Speaker 3: to be moments you're going to play a lot of
- 53:05Speaker 3: great teams. You're going to be down in games. They're
- 53:07Speaker 3: going to punch you right in the face. What's your
- 53:09Speaker 3: response when you get punched in the face? Do you say, oh,
- 53:12Speaker 3: is that right?
- 53:13Speaker 2: Is that right?
- 53:13Speaker 1: Here we go.
- 53:14Speaker 2: Or do you not?
- 53:15Speaker 3: I think that's what determines the ceiling on this team.
- 53:17Speaker 1: OK. Yeah, I'll be stunned if Miles Sadler doesn't fight
- 53:24Speaker 1: no matter what the situation is to the end. That's
- 53:26Speaker 1: going to be his differentiator. OK. He is a killer.
- 53:29Speaker 2: OK.
- 53:30Speaker 1: He's a basketball assassin, and he don't care. And he
- 53:33Speaker 1: is going to go DJ Wagner. I don't care who
- 53:35Speaker 1: your grandfather is. I don't care who your dad is.
- 53:38Speaker 1: I don't care if you played at Arkansas. I don't
- 53:40Speaker 1: care if you played at Kentucky. You watch. He's going
- 53:42Speaker 1: to go face that guy. He's that guy.
- 53:44Speaker 3: Assassin's the right word. He's got that. We were just
- 53:47Speaker 3: talking about confidence. He's not walking into the building going, well,
- 53:51Speaker 3: I hope I play well today. That ain't this dude.
- 53:54Speaker 3: This dude's walking in saying, I hope you think you
- 53:56Speaker 3: can handle me because I'm here.
- 53:58Speaker 2: I'm here in the building.
- 53:59Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the difference. Yeah.
- 54:01Speaker 3: And he's not the only one. I do think you
- 54:03Speaker 3: have– I think, to answer my own question, I think
- 54:06Speaker 3: that turns out in the positive. I do think this
- 54:08Speaker 3: team and this coaching staff probably won't allow that, right?
- 54:12Speaker 3: But I think you have some guys in there that say, oh,
- 54:14Speaker 3: is that right? Finley, Biz Jack's another one, guys. He's
- 54:17Speaker 3: a quiet assassin. But when they're scrimmaging Hoppy, when they
- 54:22Speaker 3: say put six minutes on the clock and it's July 19th,
- 54:26Speaker 3: six minutes on the clock, we're going to play a game,
- 54:27Speaker 3: you'd think it was a Final Four game with Finley.
- 54:29Speaker 1: Really? Really.
- 54:30Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think you've got multiple guys down the
- 54:32Speaker 3: list that'll say, all right.
- 54:33Speaker 2: We're here, let's play.
- 54:34Speaker 1: I'll tell you, when I first met Finley back in June,
- 54:37Speaker 1: introduced myself, hey, looking forward to calling your games, looking
- 54:41Speaker 1: forward to calling some of those threes that you make.
- 54:44Speaker 1: And he said, yeah, man. He said, just remember, my
- 54:47Speaker 1: ball goes in. I like that. That's an endorsement, right?
- 54:52Speaker 1: That's an endorsement.
- 54:53Speaker 2: You've got some guys. This will be fun.
- 54:56Speaker 1: Like I said the other day, it's going to be
- 54:58Speaker 1: very much a work in progress. It all won't look
- 55:00Speaker 1: like a perfect symphony Sunday. It won't look like a
- 55:04Speaker 1: perfect symphony at Glenville or against Wheeling, and it probably
- 55:07Speaker 1: won't against the Purple Eagles of Niagara. You're going to
- 55:11Speaker 1: matriculate down the road here and you're just going to
- 55:13Speaker 1: need repetition and playing games, and they'll just get better
- 55:15Speaker 1: and better like everybody else. They're going to get better
- 55:16Speaker 1: and better and better. But what's exciting is the potential,
- 55:20Speaker 1: like you said. Like their athleticism and length will make
- 55:23Speaker 1: up for being one foot in the wrong spot defensively
- 55:28Speaker 1: because they'll just be longer and quicker and go get it.
- 55:30Speaker 1: You won't even notice it. Where last year's team, you
- 55:33Speaker 1: probably had to be right in the right spot.
- 55:36Speaker 3: And you know what's amazing about it? We keep saying that,
- 55:39Speaker 3: and it's natural to make the comparison to last year
- 55:41Speaker 3: because it was Ross' first year. We say stuff like that,
- 55:44Speaker 3: like you become more athletic, which you have. And last
- 55:47Speaker 3: year's team is you take that Clemson win, that Ohio
- 55:51Speaker 3: State win, you beat Kansas State on the road.
- 55:53Speaker 2: That's an NCAA tournament team.
- 55:54Speaker 3: That's a team that finished in the top eight in
- 55:56Speaker 3: what was an historically good Big 12. More draft picks
- 55:59Speaker 3: than this league has ever had. And you finished in
- 56:01Speaker 3: the top half of that and were a game out
- 56:02Speaker 3: of the NCAA tournament.
- 56:03Speaker 2: So it's not like.
- 56:04Speaker 3: You're comparing this group to a group that won four games.
- 56:07Speaker 3: You're comparing it to a fringe NCAA tournament team. I
- 56:10Speaker 3: think that's where the excitement comes from is that you've
- 56:13Speaker 3: got a chance. You've got a bunch of really talented
- 56:15Speaker 3: basketball players. Now let's hope they all can stay on
- 56:17Speaker 3: the floor, thanks to judges, and then move.
- 56:20Speaker 1: It forward here. Halfway through the month of October, and
- 56:23Speaker 1: Big Candy has just literally taken over. No matter where
- 56:27Speaker 1: you turn, Big Candy is front, and it is center.
- 56:30Speaker 1: And at Go-Mart, they're in. I mean, Big Candy's taken
- 56:33Speaker 1: over all the Go-Marts across West Virginia and beyond. How
- 56:36Speaker 1: about this? Rewards members, if you've got the Go-Mart app,
- 56:39Speaker 1: you can grab Hershey's Standard Size 2 for just $ 4
- 56:43Speaker 1: this month. Say, well, wait a second. I'm not a
- 56:47Speaker 1: chocolate person. I'm more of a salty snack person. Slim
- 56:51Speaker 1: Jim Monster, $ 2 for a Slim Jim Monster. You can
- 56:57Speaker 1: cash in your rewards, get the app downloaded at the
- 56:59Speaker 1: GoMart on their website or wherever it is that you
- 57:04Speaker 1: get your app. But Big Candy and GoMart go together.
- 57:07Speaker 1: And don't forget Saturdays, triple rewards points at all GoMarts. Triple.
- 57:11Speaker 2: That's still going on? Yeah.
- 57:12Speaker 1: It's the fall, so it's still going on triple rewards points.
- 57:15Speaker 2: I'm having a good week.
- 57:17Speaker 3: I'm having good tempo. I've got almost half a tank.
- 57:19Speaker 3: I'm going to cruise right into Saturday easily, Hoppy.
- 57:22Speaker 1: Easily?
- 57:23Speaker 2: You need to drive around a little bit until Saturday
- 57:25Speaker 2: you're going to fill up.
- 57:26Speaker 1: Even though gas is ridiculously high. I filled up Mile
- 57:28Speaker 1: Ground last night. I don't know if you've ever seen this.
- 57:31Speaker 1: When you go over there near the pumps, they've got
- 57:34Speaker 1: these pictures. There's a guy who looks exactly like you.
- 57:39Speaker 3: That's funny. I go to the Postal Plaza one, and
- 57:42Speaker 3: on top of the thing, there's one that looks exactly
- 57:44Speaker 3: like you.
- 57:44Speaker 1: Like me? I didn't see that. I saw the one
- 57:47Speaker 1: that looked like you.
- 57:48Speaker 3: You're not going to get your Saturday missed opportunity.
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- 58:36Speaker 1: Jumping all in from the text line, hey, guys, it's Pop.
- 58:40Speaker 1: I have doubts that our defense can turn it around
- 58:42Speaker 1: enough to be competitive this year, but my real worry
- 58:45Speaker 1: is can they improve enough to keep the key offensive
- 58:48Speaker 1: players from leaving in the offseason? Suitors will come calling,
- 58:52Speaker 1: and it'll be hard enough keeping our guys. It's possible. Reality, though,
- 59:00Speaker 1: every school has that in some form. And fashion. And
- 59:06Speaker 1: we're seeing it. right we're just talking about this kid's
- 59:10Speaker 1: at his second school this kid's at his third school
- 59:12Speaker 1: sometimes it matters more what does the what's the individuals
- 59:20Speaker 1: what what's their what's their individual situation are they number
- 59:24Speaker 1: one enjoying it are they they feel that they're being
- 59:28Speaker 1: used properly Are they making money that's good? Like, it
- 59:32Speaker 1: isn't always what one side of the ball is doing
- 59:36Speaker 1: or not, quite honestly.
- 59:37Speaker 2: And also, I'm sorry, go ahead. No, go ahead. Also,
- 59:40Speaker 2: we don't know that if the Protect College Sports Act passes,
- 59:43Speaker 2: when it takes effect, which would limit transfers to one
- 59:46Speaker 2: without sitting out.
- 59:47Speaker 1: That's true, too. Yeah. It'll be a happy day, not
- 59:52Speaker 1: necessarily for the student-athletes, but it'll be a happy day,
- 59:54Speaker 1: I think, for the majority of fans and coaches. when
- 59:59Speaker 1: you can only transfer once and you finally get this
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: hopscotching stopped.
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: And there are exceptions. If the coach gets fired or
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: quits or whatever, then that, that, you know, that expands
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: your ability. But yeah, I think so. And, and this,
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: this is going to sound quaint, Tony, but in talking
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: to Guy yesterday about this is that no one in
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: any of this discussion, maybe it's, maybe it's really old
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: school to think that there's an education element to this anymore, but,
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: You have to think that 99% of these players aren't
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: going to go on and play in the pros. It
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: is important to have a college degree, I think, or
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: at least helpful. And I think that you probably can
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: get a better education at one or two schools than
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: four or five.
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: A thousand percent.
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: Yep. Even though the term student-athlete is now a bit,
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: you know, well.
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: Texter looking over the men's basketball schedule, looking like there
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: are 20-plus games against teams in the Ken Palm preseason
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: top 50. Regular season wins over under 18.5. Regular season
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: conference wins 8.5. Lofty expectations this year. Let's go. Schedule's
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: a beast.
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: Beast.
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: Capital B. Oh. Hard.
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: You know, you watched last year. You might know this.
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: I went to a couple games. Didn't know.
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: Yeah. We're going to try to get you, by the way.
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: If you go, like if Karen's not available, we're going
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: to get you and Rex the barber. Brad, what do
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: you think? Yeah. Rex the barber and Hoppy sit next
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: to each other. You guys have a good night up there.
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: Lower level seats. And you guys can watch the ball game.
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: He and I would probably first, by mistake, go to
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: the field house. And you guys see this all the time.
- 1:01:52Speaker 2: It's not new to you all. But being that close,
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: because I did have a good seat.
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: Well, you begged your way into a good seat. It
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: was kind of embarrassing. The president had to come through.
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: The pace and physicality, man, it is intense, Brad. It
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: is intense.
- 1:02:07Speaker 3: I think physicality is the thing that most people, if
- 1:02:09Speaker 3: you haven't seen it up close, that would surprise you.
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: Wow.
- 1:02:12Speaker 3: It is hand-to-hand combat.
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: And, I mean, it's not like taking possessions off. You know,
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: every one is just a battle. I mean, it is intense.
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: You're right on that.
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: Fun. Texter, guys, at the risk of stepping into Hoppy's
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: obvious category, I don't understand why no one will come
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: out and simply say what we do not have, and
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: that's the talent to compete on defense. It is not disconnect.
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: It is not scheme. It is not coaching. It is
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: simply the lack of talent on the defensive side. It's obvious.
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: It's okay to say it, but nobody does. Ben and
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: Scott Deepo.
- 1:02:51Speaker 2: There's been talk about talent.
- 1:02:54Speaker 3: I don't totally subscribe to that.
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: Who is that, Ben?
- 1:02:57Speaker 3: I don't totally subscribe to that. I think it's clear
- 1:02:59Speaker 3: there has been some scheme issues, and it may be
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: communication of scheme, but guys just aren't even close. There's
- 1:03:08Speaker 3: a miscommunication there somehow, whether that's on the players to
- 1:03:11Speaker 3: understand where they're going, whether that's too many things, all
- 1:03:13Speaker 3: those things. But here's what I don't subscribe to. I
- 1:03:17Speaker 3: don't think it's so talent deficient on the defensive side
- 1:03:20Speaker 3: you should have given up a historically bad stretch of
- 1:03:23Speaker 3: three games. I just don't believe that. I think there's
- 1:03:26Speaker 3: plenty of talent over there. You might, again, you might
- 1:03:28Speaker 3: not be the 95 defense, but you're certainly not the
- 1:03:31Speaker 3: worst defense in West Virginia history. That's so I don't
- 1:03:34Speaker 3: necessarily fully subscribe to that from Ben.
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: Hi, three guys. Professor Vinny here. If the saying is
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: it's always darkest before the dawn, how will Congress passing
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: permanent daylight savings time help WVU football? Funny guy that
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: Professor Vinny Ever since he got that tenure, he's got
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: his feet kicked up on his desk somewhere out there
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: in Illinois, just off sending cute little texts. Andrew from Danville.
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: I think if we go with six wins this year,
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: make it to a bowl, I would consider it a success.
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: This is only Rich Rod's second season. I want to
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: win every game just like everyone, but we have to
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: climb the mountain first. Let's get the defense fixed in
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: the offseason and get it done next year. Let's go.
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: Somebody already looking ahead to next year.
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: Andrew, Danville. Mason in Mason County, probably not his real name.
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: Obvious observation, my chapstick is licorice flavored and my depends
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: are full. The PFF numbers are the opposition's BFF and
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: our opponent's OCs are having a great night wherever they
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: may be. I have faith in Rich to get it
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: turned around. DBs are hard to find. Quality DBs even harder.
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: Sometimes you swing and miss. Go Mountaineers. Mason in Mason County.
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: Three guys, this Saturday's game will be my wife Karen
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: and my seventh trip to Morgantown for game day since
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: our first, which happened to be an impulse trip on
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: our first anniversary while we were staying in Pittsburgh. It
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: just came down. WVU game days have become a favorite
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: annual tradition for us. We can't say enough wonderful things
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: about the WVU community. Thank you all for letting two
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: northeast Ohioans with no West Virginia ties become part of
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: the Mountaineer community.
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: Here's hoping.
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: Our vibes can snap the losing streak. See you in
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: the blue lot.
- 1:05:23Speaker 3: That's pretty wild.
- 1:05:24Speaker 2: No Mountaineer connection. They just drove down. They come to
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: a game every year now. Welcome.
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: Welcome.
- 1:05:29Speaker 2: Happy to have you here. Thanks for coming.
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: Yes. So a couple of notes before we have to.
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: I got more coming up here, but just a few
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: things here. This weekend, it's our last food court of
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: the season. Last food court.
- 1:05:44Speaker 2: That was fast.
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: It goes by quick when you're having fun. Tomorrow night.
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: The food court will go from 4 until 9. And
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: we have live music. Great name for the performer. Keg McClain.
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: Like if that's not a guy that should be playing. KEG? KEG. Keg.
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: There he is. Keg McClain. He happens to be a
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: P1 listener. Excellent. Extremely talented. He's from Charleston, Hobby. That's
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: down in the state capital city.
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: Go to GW.
- 1:06:16Speaker 3: Probably.
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: I mean, who hasn't? So it's Keg McClain. So tomorrow night,
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: Rev Kev's barbecue, the unbelievable brisket, pulled pork, all the sides.
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: And then Saturday morning, we're going 9 until 10.30 or 11,
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: and Rev Kev's going to do brisket on a biscuit. Oh,
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: that's good. Which is tremendous.
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: Also, we'll have kegs of Connection 304, and keg will
- 1:06:38Speaker 2: be performing.
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: Connection 304 from Parkersburg Brewing, and keg is going to
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: be performing.
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: Keg squared.
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: We're also going to be pouring free. On Saturday morning,
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: Mountaineer Roasting Game Day Grind. It all happens next to
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: Daniel's Men's Store there on University Avenue. Last week we
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: had Ross Hodge. He came through.
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: How about that?
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: It was fun. And so this will be it. Ben
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: Cutter's mom, Jen's Cookies, sold out again. Now she may
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: have an extra side cookie. Or two, but it's just
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: going to be for pickup because they sold out again.
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: I didn't tell you this. I'll tell you now.
- 1:07:17Speaker 3: I did this last Saturday morning when I got there.
- 1:07:20Speaker 3: I took your advice, got me a cup of that
- 1:07:22Speaker 3: Free Mountaineer Roasting Coffee.
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: You did the oatmeal cream pie with it.
- 1:07:25Speaker 3: And then Jen had one. I don't know where it
- 1:07:27Speaker 3: came from. She had one on her that she was
- 1:07:30Speaker 3: in the process of eating.
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: It was hers.
- 1:07:33Speaker 3: I just kind of slid my way in and said,
- 1:07:36Speaker 3: can I try a bite of that?
- 1:07:36Speaker 2: I'm not trying.
- 1:07:37Speaker 3: So she broke me off a little piece there and
- 1:07:39Speaker 3: had it with my coffee. That is an elite combination.
- 1:07:41Speaker 2: That's a good call.
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: It is really, really good. And I don't want to
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: get ahead of my skis because I never do. But
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: halfway through October, we're going to do our holiday.
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: What now?
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: What? Hold on here. What? It's not too early to
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: start thinking about what you can order for the holidays.
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: Working in some form. Going to... Jen, Jen Cutter.
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: Now, wait a minute.
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: Christmas tin boxes of cookies that'll be available for sale.
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: I think it can happen.
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: Well, wait, wait. I think it can happen?
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: I think it can happen. We'll have details coming up.
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: That's a big difference.
- 1:08:23Speaker 2: That's not even... We've talked about it.
- 1:08:24Speaker 3: No, there has not been talked about it. It's just,
- 1:08:28Speaker 3: I think it can probably... Now, I hope Jen overheard
- 1:08:30Speaker 3: a conversation somewhere, because that has not been talked about.
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: Probably.
- 1:08:33Speaker 2: That's new.
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: Well, probably... In all.
- 1:08:34Speaker 3: Seriousness, that's like he... He just thought of it just now.
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: I think he did. Well, you just said it. We're
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: going to package game day grind with her cookies, put
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: it together.
- 1:08:45Speaker 3: Now you definitely don't know that. I just said that
- 1:08:47Speaker 3: because I had it.
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: It was good.
- 1:08:49Speaker 3: There has not been a business discussion of that.
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: Well, we're going to have it early. We're homeless, homeless Dave.
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: It'll be like November one by the time we have
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: to order. Speaking of homeless Dave, I.
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: Mean, Jen's now got to stay in the kitchen and
- 1:09:01Speaker 2: make all these. Homeless Dave, you know, who's part-time job.
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: How about this story? So Homeless Dave.
- 1:09:07Speaker 3: I mean, that would be a good Christmas gift.
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: Seriously.
- 1:09:11Speaker 3: That would be good.
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: I'm going to make it happen.
- 1:09:13Speaker 3: More information coming up.
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: You're going to make it happen.
- 1:09:16Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not done yet.
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: What are you going to do?
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: I'm going to make it happen. I'm going to make
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: it happen.
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: He thinks he made it happen by what he just said.
- 1:09:22Speaker 2: By just saying it? You're going to say it into existence?
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: You don't think?
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: He probably just did, too.
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: So Homeless Dave.
- 1:09:29Speaker 2: That keeps happening.
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: Homeless Dave.
- 1:09:30Speaker 3: Because now everybody moves around and gets it done, then
- 1:09:32Speaker 3: he just continues.
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: Homeless Dave flew to Colorado this week for work. Okay.
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: He gets on the plane. Part of... He had to
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: go visit, what he does, another entity, and... It just
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: happened that while he's there, we're recording on Thursday the 15th. Tonight,
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: Charles Wesley Godwin is playing Red Rocks. Like, massive show.
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: We auctioned off tickets back in the summer when we
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: were at Stonewall to fly family out and the whole thing.
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: So homeless is getting on the plane. And he goes
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: to sit down. There's Charles with one of those little
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: boys on his lap on the plane. Oh, really? We're
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: flying out to Colorado for the show. Yeah. I mean,
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: Charles is a man of the people. Chuck is a
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: man of the people. He didn't, like, he got no PJ.
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: I mean, he's commercial out of Pittsburgh.
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: Was he in business class?
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I don't know if homeless goes. Does
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: homeless go business?
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: I don't know that.
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: Homeless flies 7 million miles a year, so he might
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: be able to. He might. I hope Chuck, by now,
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: is in the first class.
- 1:10:45Speaker 3: I hope so.
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: If you got the little boy on your lap, you
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: got to go first class.
- 1:10:49Speaker 3: We did this last year, too. Gabe auctioned it off,
- 1:10:52Speaker 3: and he played out there. Some of those pictures coming
- 1:10:54Speaker 3: out of there. What a setting.
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: So that's tonight?
- 1:10:58Speaker 3: Thursday night, that concert?
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: 15th October.
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: Speaking of flights, I forgot to tell you guys. So
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: I was traveling. It's the reason I wasn't here. I
- 1:11:05Speaker 2: was traveling.
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: This past weekend.
- 1:11:07Speaker 2: I get on a plane to go out to where
- 1:11:08Speaker 2: I'm going. And next to me is two guys who
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: are going to the Oklahoma-Texas game.
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: Two guys before the game, yeah? Two guys.
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: Because I was flying through Dallas, and they were going
- 1:11:17Speaker 2: to Dallas for the ballgame. So I was talking to them.
- 1:11:20Speaker 2: And the Oklahoma guys, I said, ah, we stole your quarterback.
- 1:11:24Speaker 2: You know?
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
- 1:11:27Speaker 2: So coming back, get on the plane, and the same
- 1:11:31Speaker 2: guys are sitting next to me.
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: Same seat? This is bizarre.
- 1:11:34Speaker 3: Same seat.
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: Same seat. And the one guy... Roger Sullivan, I started
- 1:11:38Speaker 2: talking to him. His son, Cole, is a linebacker on
- 1:11:42Speaker 2: the Oklahoma team. Well, they had a good day then.
- 1:11:45Speaker 2: They had a good day. Texas guys did not have
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: a good day. Or were they both Oklahoma fans? Both
- 1:11:49Speaker 2: Oklahoma fans. And his son's a linebacker on that team.
- 1:11:53Speaker 3: Now, they needed the defense to score a touchdown and
- 1:11:55Speaker 3: the special teams to score a touchdown there. They still
- 1:11:57Speaker 3: didn't have Mike Hawkins. He still did not suit up
- 1:11:59Speaker 3: in the Red River rivalry.
- 1:12:00Speaker 2: Mike Hawkins did not suit up. But there were some
- 1:12:02Speaker 2: big completions by, what's his name, Mateer?
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: Mateer.
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: Mateer.
- 1:12:05Speaker 3: But.
- 1:12:07Speaker 2: Nice guy. Great guy. But he himself was a football player,
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: was a lineman from Pittsburgh, a defensive lineman who played
- 1:12:14Speaker 2: at Kentucky.
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: Very nice guy. The downside is he's a defensive guy
- 1:12:20Speaker 2: who played at Kentucky.
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: Oh, you got squeezed.
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: So he was in the middle seat, the poor guy.
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: Over under on his weight.
- 1:12:27Speaker 2: 260, 280, something like that. I mean, just a big
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: human being.
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: Yeah, a large person. So I had You had no space.
- 1:12:36Speaker 2: I had little space. Hey, that's what it's like backing coach.
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: You're the one that makes that call. People know. You
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: don't need to do that. You can go wherever you want.
- 1:12:46Speaker 2: No, I'm not. I'm a highly compensated talent like you are.
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: Don't start that. You can go wherever you want to go. Cockpit.
- 1:12:53Speaker 2: Do you fly like Charter? Yeah.
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: I don't have that. Okie from Jumping Branch. Jumping Branch.
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: Okie from Jumping Branch. All the talk about how bad
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: the defense has played is warranted. The sad part about
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: this is. that it ends up being the only conversation
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: on most media outlets except for three guys and another show.
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: All of this hatred toward the defense turns the volume
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: to zero on this season's Cam Cook, the season that
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: he's having. Whoa, what a fighting back he is. Also,
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: Michael Hawkins, still a baby and growing game by game.
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: Thanks to you, three guys, for the full coverage you provide. Also,
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: if you can't tell, Coach Trickett is in town, then
- 1:13:34Speaker 1: you're not watching. They're coming off the ball.
- 1:13:38Speaker 2: Those two dudes are having years, man. Oh, my gosh.
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: Having years. Huge. Last one. Three guys. I watched your
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: Arizona episode, and I think there was a texter that
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: had a view of the coal rush and the uniforms.
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: Having received a master's from the then School of Mines
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: and appreciating what it means to the state, the university,
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: and those who make their living from it, we say
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: no way. Doing away with it would be second only
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: to taking the musket away from our mountaineer. And by
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: the way, we like the uniforms.
- 1:14:08Speaker 2: Do you guys like them?
- 1:14:09Speaker 1: So there they are. Husband, wife. I like it. And
- 1:14:12Speaker 1: you've got the School of Mines hoodie on there. Then
- 1:14:14Speaker 1: if you flip them around, yeah, they're representing. Pretty good seats, too.
- 1:14:19Speaker 2: Do you like the collage?
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: Yeah, I think those are really nice uniforms. Really nice look.
- 1:14:26Speaker 3: Alternate uniforms. I'm an easy grader, but I love these.
- 1:14:29Speaker 2: I think they look great. Striped the stadium this week,
- 1:14:31Speaker 2: I think. Is that right? No, homecoming.
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: Is it striped?
- 1:14:34Speaker 2: I don't think it's that.
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.
- 1:14:36Speaker 2: I think it's just regular.
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:14:38Speaker 2: Oh, I shouldn't have said anything.
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: Tell you what, if you wore white last week, though, well,
- 1:14:42Speaker 1: you stood out. I was looking down. I was looking
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: down like, not hard to find.
- 1:14:47Speaker 2: Yeah, heavy black.
- 1:14:48Speaker 1: Heavy black. Looked good. Yeah, those are really good. All right,
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: we've done enough damage here. A program reminder.
- 1:14:55Speaker 2: It is striped the stadium.
- 1:14:56Speaker 1: Is it?
- 1:14:57Speaker 2: Gold, even numbered sections. Gold, odd-numbered sections, blue. Yeah. Stripe
- 1:15:07Speaker 2: the stadium for homecoming.
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: Phil got gold over there?
- 1:15:10Speaker 2: Got a lot of gold.
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: He does. Phil's got gold. New stuff.
- 1:15:13Speaker 3: I just put some out Tuesday at my shift.
- 1:15:18Speaker 1: I had a funny thing.
- 1:15:19Speaker 2: New blue, too, in case you're blue.
- 1:15:21Speaker 1: What do you mean?
- 1:15:22Speaker 2: He's got blue stuff, too.
- 1:15:24Speaker 1: Blue, blue, or that royal blue you were wearing the
- 1:15:26Speaker 1: other night?
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: No, not the Jerry West throwback blue. Like the Navy.
- 1:15:30Speaker 2: PMS 285. Got some of that. Gave you a PMS number.
- 1:15:36Speaker 1: One last thing. One last thing. I'll let you go here.
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: Or you can shut it off now.
- 1:15:42Speaker 2: Or maybe you already have.
- 1:15:43Speaker 1: Maybe you already have. We haven't done it already. If
- 1:15:45Speaker 1: you're still hearing this, you're still listening. It was funny
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: when Fine Looking Phil was at that event we did,
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: Moving Mountains for the United Way last week.
- 1:15:53Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll never come again. Why?
- 1:15:55Speaker 2: He'll never come again. Oh, Moving Mountains. I'm sorry.
- 1:15:57Speaker 3: I thought you meant food court where he got accosted.
- 1:15:59Speaker 1: That was bad.
- 1:16:00Speaker 3: You've got to provide better security. If you're going to
- 1:16:03Speaker 3: invite him down, you have got to be the one
- 1:16:06Speaker 3: that provides security. You cannot allow him to get jumped.
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: I precipitated all of it.
- 1:16:12Speaker 2: What did you do?
- 1:16:13Speaker 1: There were these two very nice ladies at the food court.
- 1:16:17Speaker 2: They're wonderful.
- 1:16:17Speaker 1: They're awesome. They were saying, why can't Phil sell women's...
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: clothing like this kind of gear like why is there
- 1:16:24Speaker 1: no women's if it's if you got to wear like
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: a small men's then it's too baggy it doesn't taper
- 1:16:30Speaker 1: so i so i just i i texted phil i
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: said hey before you leave i said come on over
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: to the food court geez he walked out walked him
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: into an ambush they attacked they went full attack mode
- 1:16:40Speaker 1: he started to backpedal looked like a corner he looked
- 1:16:42Speaker 1: like a corner and a guy was running a streak
- 1:16:44Speaker 1: on him and finally he acquiesced he's going to do
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: 36 pieces of like a nice high-level quality, like a
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: Peter Millar-level women's thing, and we got that done, too.
- 1:16:57Speaker 3: What Skippy doesn't know is he's now on the hook
- 1:17:00Speaker 3: for unsold merchandise.
- 1:17:01Speaker 2: He's buying it.
- 1:17:02Speaker 3: That's why I said to Phil, I said, don't worry,
- 1:17:04Speaker 3: go ahead and do it.
- 1:17:05Speaker 2: He'll pick up the cost of what you don't sell.
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: Whatever it is. Yeah, whatever it is.
- 1:17:08Speaker 3: That's not Phil's responsibility to sell every item for everybody.
- 1:17:11Speaker 2: Especially when it's like the business decision when he's forced
- 1:17:13Speaker 2: into a corner.
- 1:17:15Speaker 1: I liked it. Anyway, my point to that is... Supposed ally.
- 1:17:18Speaker 2: Supposed.
- 1:17:19Speaker 1: My... The funny thing is, when he was at the
- 1:17:21Speaker 1: United Way thing at Touchdown Terrace, after it was over,
- 1:17:24Speaker 1: he was walking. I said, hey, come here, come here,
- 1:17:25Speaker 1: come here, come here. And I said, let me see
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: your arm. He did have a pin. Did he? I
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: told you he did. He had a pin in his car.
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: He didn't have the tape measure, but he had the pin.
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: Just in case anyone there from the United Way needed
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: to get fitted.
- 1:17:35Speaker 3: Well, you might need to hem the pants. Pants were
- 1:17:37Speaker 3: a little long on somebody. He could pin them right
- 1:17:39Speaker 3: there and then take them back to Ebo. Ebo would
- 1:17:41Speaker 3: get those things fixed, bring them right back to you.
- 1:17:42Speaker 2: Did you see the purchase I made?
- 1:17:45Speaker 1: That's an oxymoron. You made a purchase? What'd you buy?
- 1:17:50Speaker 2: Socks? I mean, that was a fair shot by him.
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: Bought a sock.
- 1:17:55Speaker 3: I try and defend you when I can. I try
- 1:17:58Speaker 3: and defend you when I can.
- 1:17:59Speaker 2: That's a fair shot by him.
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: What'd you buy?
- 1:18:02Speaker 2: At the United Way, I bought the Jerry West sign. Oh,
- 1:18:05Speaker 2: I thought you meant at Phil's. We thought you meant
- 1:18:06Speaker 2: at Daniel's. Well, I've bought stuff at Daniel's.
- 1:18:08Speaker 1: Sock, rarely. Three guys brought to us by.
- 1:18:13Speaker 2: My apologies. You did buy an auction. Apology accepted.
- 1:18:16Speaker 1: Very nice. That was a nice item. Yeah. Three guys
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