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WILD Gambling Stories, NFL Futures & Survivor Strategy with Steve Fezzik · WiseKracks

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Speaker 1: The ever hated Steve Fessick joins us.
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Speaker 2: No, we read a nice conference with Steve last week too.
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Speaker 1: It was fantastic his his uh pod. What would that
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Speaker 1: be called? That we had a gaming conference boot camp? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I lost eight pounds by the way. They didn't tell you,
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Speaker 1: but in the boot camp. No, but it was. It
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Speaker 1: was a fun time. A couple of the guys are
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Speaker 1: here from the boot camp. We appreciate, appreciate all you
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Speaker 1: guys coming in, and we have a couple of good
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Speaker 1: guests that we're also going to have on today.
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Speaker 2: We're trying to get this all in less than an hour,
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Speaker 2: and we should though. It's no problem.
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Speaker 1: Randy McKay professional better, myself, professional better podcaster, John Big podcaster.
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Speaker 1: John is John Orlando. His dad is Tony Orlando. There's
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Speaker 1: probably no one old enough in the room to know
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Speaker 1: what Tony is. Oh yes, bookinos, Sorry, I thought it is.
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Speaker 3: What it is.
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Speaker 2: I know you would know, but there's a lot of
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Speaker 2: younger people. Crack.
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Speaker 4: I thought for sure when you said Randy professional gamber
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Speaker 4: you're a professional, I thought you were to say professional degenerate.
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Speaker 3: I thought, for sure, tell you what the show works
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Speaker 3: so well, and I think why we get so many
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Speaker 3: views and comments and people John your rarity in the business.
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Speaker 2: Listen.
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Speaker 1: I host a nationwide Fox show on five hundred and
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Speaker 1: twelve networks. I have a co host and I have
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Speaker 1: another co host, the one played in the NFL ones.
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Speaker 1: I was planning for him to be that setup guided
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Speaker 1: and Fox told me, yeah, crack pick on him. He's
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Speaker 1: a gambler. The first week he was like, you can't
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Speaker 1: say this stuff to me. So, I mean, I love
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Speaker 1: doing the show. It's a nationwide show. I'm totally blessed.
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Speaker 1: You know that that that someone will come.
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Speaker 2: To the one that I'm not and you would be
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Speaker 2: great on win me.
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Speaker 1: And only because John admits I'm not. I don't want
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Speaker 1: to embarrass it from anyone. Okay, don't don't touch me.
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Speaker 2: No, but John admits to being.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 2: He likes to gamble. He likes lays the way to
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Speaker 2: go right.
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Speaker 1: It's correct, Yeah, Parlay's and he's very honest though, and
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Speaker 1: he's hit going around once. No, he's not following around.
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Speaker 1: He you know, he loves to gamble and gambling loves him.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, no, and he admits it and it works
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Speaker 1: well together.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: Randy comes on football season gives out his you know,
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Speaker 1: let's face it, we've made.
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Speaker 2: A lot of money in our career of gambling.
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Speaker 1: Besides what the dark twitter trolls say, but we've made
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Speaker 1: a lot of money gambling, Randy, you and I even
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Speaker 1: over the years together with different things. And you know,
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Speaker 1: I never ever talked about this, And how can I
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Speaker 1: hate you with this cold without asking you ahead of time?
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Speaker 1: So we won four hundred and ninety thousand together at
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Speaker 1: the end contest. That really set our contest streak going.
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Speaker 5: That was the last one hundred thousand buy and this
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Speaker 5: will be the this will be the This was one
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Speaker 5: hundred thousand buy in the Grandissimo.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, which I didn't tell anyone that we were getting in.
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Speaker 1: I didn't tell anyone yet. I just you know, because
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Speaker 1: it's not me that say, oh yeah, I'm coming, I'm
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Speaker 1: coming in with a partnership.
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Speaker 2: I'm not spending one hundred thousand dollars.
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Speaker 1: Well yeah, also, you always you told me not to
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Speaker 1: say something. Back then, can we talk about DraftKings now?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Sure, okay, back then you weare like, no, don't
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Speaker 2: tell no one. We won that.
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Speaker 1: So we won a lot of money in the Draft
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Speaker 1: Kings contest. Because of the overlay situation they had. I've
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Speaker 1: never told anyone publicly go ahead.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so you're talking about the weekend one or the
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Speaker 5: fifty thousand buy in.
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Speaker 1: The fifty thousand buy in which there was going to
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Speaker 1: be what was the guarantee?
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Speaker 5: So the guarantee on that one, I believe, trying to remember.
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Speaker 2: Now whatever it was. There was an overlay, Yeah, there was.
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Speaker 5: There were two people short of the overlays, so like
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Speaker 5: one hundred thousand dollars at it.
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Speaker 1: But it was six the day of the we weren't
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Speaker 1: going to enter. It was six with an hour to go.
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Speaker 1: Four people entered.
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Speaker 5: And it was kind of inconvenient because you had to
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Speaker 5: be in a draft King state, couldn't use a proxy.
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Speaker 5: They had a lot of rules on that. In fact,
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Speaker 5: one of my friends he got this not in that contest,
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Speaker 5: but another one he got disqualified because you had they
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Speaker 5: tracked his location and disqualified him.
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Speaker 1: But that's why, that's why you didn't want it, because I
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Speaker 1: was like, the DraftKings is really strict on and same
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Speaker 1: thing with FanDuel.
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Speaker 2: They're pretty strict on location.
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Speaker 1: And making sure where you're betting from and if you're
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Speaker 1: betting from the same house. You know I talked about
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Speaker 1: on vs in a couple of weeks ago. There's a
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Speaker 1: group that reached out to me that's owed hundreds of
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Speaker 1: thousands of dollars and the one guy is down like
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Speaker 1: two hundred thousand in his account and he won back
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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty still down eighty thousand overall, and
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Speaker 1: they're not paying him one hundred and twenty thousand. That's
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Speaker 1: just so dirty because saying no, well, you won the
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Speaker 1: money with these other guys, and like I said, his
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Speaker 1: account was two hundred thousand down.
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Speaker 2: I have no stake in the game. So people were
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Speaker 2: coming at me.
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Speaker 1: But you know what's amazing, out of one hundred and
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Speaker 1: some comments on Twitter about twenty of them.
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Speaker 2: Stuck up for the sports book.
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Speaker 1: They said, well, of course you're not allowed to about
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Speaker 1: the same game together on a telegram chat. Well, what
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Speaker 1: if I give out a game, Steve gets out of
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Speaker 1: a game. What if you give out a game and
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Speaker 1: everyone bets it together and you just send one hundred
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Speaker 1: bucks two hundred bucks f bucks. Yes, in the terms
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Speaker 1: and conditions, these big sports books do not have to
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Speaker 1: pay you if they don't want to. But the you know,
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Speaker 1: the bane of my existence will be to go after them,
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Speaker 1: and I don't care if they sponsor my show or
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Speaker 1: I'm still going after them throwing off air.
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Speaker 2: I'm sticking up for helping the public at their money.
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Speaker 5: So it's another instance where they're trying to reinvent the
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Speaker 5: wheel when the wheel's already made there. So yeah, I
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Speaker 5: disagree with them as well.
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Speaker 1: So I have a breaking thing that I'm not going
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Speaker 1: to mention the name again, but you're probably know. So
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Speaker 1: I have a lot of family in the Bronx and
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Speaker 1: they go to Yonkers, which I've only been there once. Well,
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Speaker 1: it's funny. I lived thirteen minutes for the place I
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Speaker 1: went one time. When I was a kid, my parents
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Speaker 1: didn't want me around gambling.
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Speaker 2: Sorry.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I had an old fashioned Hungarian Jewish father Italian mother.
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Speaker 1: They did not want me, please don't. And of course
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Speaker 1: my mother's family corrupted everyone, my father, everybody of Sam.
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Speaker 1: I remember that though, because we were I was about
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Speaker 1: eight years old and we weren't even allowed to go
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Speaker 1: out when Sam h David Burker, which was was doing that.
6:04
Speaker 1: We weren't even allowed to go out like outside on
6:06
Speaker 1: night time.
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Speaker 2: We were boys and a girl.
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Speaker 1: It was a bad time, but Anyway, there's the Yonkers casino.
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Speaker 2: Anyone been there. I haven't been there. Anyone been.
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Speaker 1: There's a Yonker's casino now in Yonkers, at the dump
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Speaker 1: of a racetrack. They're taking twenty five thousand a hand
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Speaker 1: virtually because there's no dealers. And one of the biggest
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Speaker 1: NBA players was next to my cousins and he's taking
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Speaker 1: the video and showing me the video. I said, you
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Speaker 1: can't do that. I'm not going to show that nowhere.
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Speaker 1: One of the biggest NBA players in the world, he's
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Speaker 1: all known.
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Speaker 2: He's killing me right now. He's worth he's worth one
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Speaker 2: hundred over one hundred million.
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Speaker 6: And what is his last name?
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Speaker 2: Rhyme with he.
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Speaker 1: Lost a million bucks last week last and my cousin,
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Speaker 1: my cousin christ you know he works in the Bronx
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Speaker 1: with thirty three years, A good kid. He's taken the
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Speaker 1: video and he's saying, cousin, Billy, do you believe this?
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Speaker 2: He's been twenty five and he's showing me the thing.
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I can't never rap the guy out.
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Speaker 1: But he lost he lost a million bucks. Yeah, he
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Speaker 1: was up two hundred thousand, lost a million dollars.
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Speaker 2: That night.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know you could lose a million dollars on
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Speaker 1: a on a video blackjack game. But that's unbelievable, isn't it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I listen, I love Barkley, but I mean,
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Speaker 1: is it really yeah?
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Speaker 2: Wow wow.
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Speaker 1: By the way, on a serious note, though, I love
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Speaker 1: Charles Barkley. I Charles Barkley. I was with them one day.
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Speaker 1: He said, how many guys you got in valet? And
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Speaker 1: they said thirteen to got thirteen hundred? Really one hundred
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Speaker 1: dollars each?
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Speaker 2: Like, why do I have to rate people by what
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Speaker 2: they spend?
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Speaker 4: Tipping is the fastest way to your heart, you love, I.
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Speaker 1: Love you throw the money a little bit, I mean
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Speaker 1: just being you know, you make a lot of money
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Speaker 1: to share it with people.
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Speaker 2: That's the way I feel.
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Speaker 5: The Scott Pippen, Yeah, Scottie, No, no tipping Pippin.
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Speaker 1: Speaking of which though, uh, there are some of those
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Speaker 1: NBA players that that that don't tip, but he is
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Speaker 1: one of them that that tips really well. I've been
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Speaker 1: around a couple of guys that really tip really well,
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Speaker 1: the famous people. And the opposite is for like, my
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Speaker 1: buddy had a big golf event and charity event put
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Speaker 1: together and like Tiger Woods.
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Speaker 2: How can you not take care of people? And you
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Speaker 2: know who he had?
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Speaker 1: He had a restaurant in La comped the meal. He's
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Speaker 1: a Tiger meals comp don't worry about it. Bill was
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Speaker 1: thirteen hundred, doesn't tip the waiter nothing.
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Speaker 2: God, it's crazy. I just don't get it. Like it
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Speaker 2: gave me.
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Speaker 1: He was playing at the and comes to his restaurant.
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Speaker 1: It's Mastros Beverly Hills.
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Speaker 2: You know what it is?
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Speaker 1: Yep, Like you get a fake cop meal at Mastros,
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Speaker 1: Tiger you can't pay the tip.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: Anyway? I usually don't name names. Sorry I just named
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Speaker 1: a couple of names. It just happens. But uh listen.
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Speaker 1: John has been given out a couple If you guys
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Speaker 1: watch our podcast. We're on YouTube every week. John has
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Speaker 1: been given out a couple UFC guys and anyone else
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Speaker 1: you want to bury it.
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Speaker 2: Last week you killed.
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Speaker 4: The record wait Osborne on seven days notice. He was
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Speaker 4: plus four to twenty or something. He did to lose,
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Speaker 4: but it went the distance and he almost knocked the
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Speaker 4: guy out round one.
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Speaker 2: It was absolute live dog. Really yes, that means at okay? Yeah, No,
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Speaker 2: John gives out underdog.
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Speaker 4: John gives out under the Dodgers.
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Speaker 1: That was the beginning of the season, and you were
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Speaker 1: over one hundred and four and a half wins. I
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Speaker 1: gotta be honest, Steve, didn't you at one time? But
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Speaker 1: then week then you said, no, wait a minute.
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Speaker 2: We're off this. I got under one.
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Speaker 1: I remember Steve text me, and I didn't mean to
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Speaker 1: put you on a spot there.
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Speaker 2: I remember you text me, you said, get off this.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't on it. I wasn't to be honest, I
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Speaker 1: wasn't even on it. But on a serious note, though
9:38
Speaker 1: people come after you all the times.
9:40
Speaker 2: Who a little bit is? You know your Twitter persona,
9:44
Speaker 2: I mean, you do it to yourself.
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Speaker 1: But however, though in person, they don't know how good
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Speaker 1: this guy is and talk about tip.
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Speaker 2: I'm a tip guy.
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Speaker 1: A couple of weeks, about a month ago, you were
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Speaker 1: at the cage with me at the Circle cashier and
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Speaker 1: we went to go get money out of my account
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Speaker 1: and I had to get something like ten times for you,
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Speaker 1: and I get that, I said, just give it to him.
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Speaker 1: He pushed the button and transferred it. Steve's taking out
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Speaker 1: twenty dollars for the guy, I.
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Speaker 2: Said, what's that for?
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Speaker 4: You?
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Speaker 1: Gotta take care of him. We had no cash transaction.
10:09
Speaker 1: You pushed the button. But yeah, he's a very good
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Speaker 1: guy helping people, and we made a lot of money together.
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Speaker 1: I don't think you've ever paid me, to be honest
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Speaker 1: with you, No, no, no, that means it came out wrong.
10:21
Speaker 2: We have a settle figure.
10:23
Speaker 1: We have a settle figure every time, and I don't
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Speaker 1: think you've ever paid me a dollar and every time
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Speaker 1: I've paid you a five figure settlement every time.
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Speaker 2: So it's good.
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Speaker 1: They have a lot of outs, a lot of outs,
10:33
Speaker 1: a lot of connections, a lot of good you know relations.
10:36
Speaker 1: But anyway, neither one of us went according to some
10:39
Speaker 1: of the people outside that door.
10:42
Speaker 2: You know, I was.
10:43
Speaker 1: Realisted my cousin was here, and you know this is
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Speaker 1: not my cousin from the from the Bronx, but I
10:48
Speaker 1: have a cousin that was here.
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Speaker 2: And he doesn't listen to anything I say. He's like,
10:54
Speaker 2: I'm not listening to anything. He said, Listen.
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Speaker 1: He calls me Cus too, goes Cus, Cuz I've been
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Speaker 1: losing my whole life. I know I'm not listening to
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Speaker 1: anything you say. I'm betting my own stuff. Anyone that
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Speaker 1: listens to anyone.
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Speaker 2: Else but I'm like, he has no money.
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Speaker 1: I swear he makes like one hundred and fifty, maybe
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Speaker 1: a little bit more, one hundred and eighty thousand a year.
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Speaker 1: He has no money. It all goes to the he
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Speaker 1: I told him I was going to use this story,
11:16
Speaker 1: and he, you know, he made me a comment to me.
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Speaker 1: He said, I try to make a score with every
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Speaker 1: penny I have. Now I've made some hundred, he said,
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Speaker 1: I've made one hundred thousand dollars a couple of times,
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Speaker 1: but he has nothing.
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Speaker 2: And I just thought about that, and John, what's it
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Speaker 2: like to do that?
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Speaker 7: Now?
11:33
Speaker 8: I was running where you were going.
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Speaker 1: No, No, I mean, I mean it's amazing, though, Joe Public.
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Speaker 1: On a serious note, I don't think like that. But
11:41
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. Bill Krackenberger was a big
11:43
Speaker 1: loser way before I was a winner. I was a
11:46
Speaker 1: little djen. You know, I'm growing up in Mammoth County,
11:49
Speaker 1: New Jersey. Used to come down. Before I lived in
11:51
Speaker 1: Mammoth County, about forty five minutes out of Manhattan. I
11:55
Speaker 1: used to come down every weekend the work of my
11:56
Speaker 1: aunt and uncle's pizza stan. I was a little degenerate
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Speaker 1: with my buddies twelve thirteen, fourteen fifteen. My parents didn't
12:03
Speaker 1: even know I was a little DJN. We played every
12:06
Speaker 1: even though my cousin was teaching card counting, and he
12:08
Speaker 1: was teaching you how to just keep track of two things,
12:11
Speaker 1: aces and fives. It's one deck bill, four aces, four fives,
12:15
Speaker 1: and they dealt to the bottom. So you could picture
12:17
Speaker 1: it on the boardwalk when the business closed. All the
12:20
Speaker 1: games of chance, the wheels they used to be called skillo,
12:23
Speaker 1: and the different games of chance. They all came to
12:26
Speaker 1: the pizza stan and gambled and they would deal head
12:29
Speaker 1: to head blackjack, down to the bottom. So he taught
12:31
Speaker 1: me a lot of things, but yet I would blow
12:33
Speaker 1: the money at Mamma's race track. I would take a
12:35
Speaker 1: bus from my little town in Kingsburg, take a bus
12:37
Speaker 1: to Long Branch, from Long Branch to Eaton Town, and
12:39
Speaker 1: I blow all the money. I was a total sucker
12:42
Speaker 1: until one day I got a call from somebody in
12:44
Speaker 1: jail from Scranton, Pennsylvania, and he called me up and said, hey,
12:48
Speaker 1: he was just in jail for a stupid little thing.
12:50
Speaker 1: But he found out something in Atlantic City about blackjack,
12:54
Speaker 1: a blackjack machine. He didn't know much, but he said,
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Speaker 1: it's a blackjack machine in Atlantic City at the Golden Nugget.
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Speaker 2: This is not the Golden Nugget that's there now.
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Speaker 1: This is the old Golden Nugget, which then became Valley's
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Speaker 1: Grand the Hilton and the Atlantic. I ta get closed
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Speaker 1: as the Atlantic, and I go in there two in
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Speaker 1: the morning. I'm working two jobs. By the way, at
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Speaker 1: the time, I think I was selling I was selling cemetery.
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Speaker 2: Plots at the time.
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Speaker 1: Imagine mausolelliums and cemetery plots and doing radio sales in
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Speaker 1: the daytime. I'm like twenty three, you're twenty two, twenty
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Speaker 1: three years old. And I go down there, and the
13:24
Speaker 1: guy next to me was just just what happens that
13:26
Speaker 1: there's twelve machines, they're all full, and just an old
13:30
Speaker 1: man got up. God, let the old man get up.
13:32
Speaker 1: That's all I can tell you. Sitting in that seat,
13:36
Speaker 1: the guy next to me changed my life. I would
13:38
Speaker 1: never be here today if it wasn't for that guy.
13:41
Speaker 1: And he was the head of the card count team
13:43
Speaker 1: it resorts in Atlantic City, but by night he was
13:46
Speaker 1: counting cards, looking for edges, doing things around nineteen ninety three,
13:50
Speaker 1: and he actually said to me. There wasn't tickets in
13:54
Speaker 1: and out of the time, the tito's were not there.
13:56
Speaker 2: You had to go.
13:57
Speaker 1: You put a one hundred dollars billion and you get
13:59
Speaker 1: these dollar core there about this big there. Used to
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Speaker 1: sell them in a roll of twenty or forty. Fat
14:04
Speaker 1: You're old enough for this, right, you know? The rolls
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Speaker 1: of coins. Oh, by the way, what a video last
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Speaker 1: night I've seen you. I'll talk about that later. I
14:11
Speaker 1: had no idea this stuff happened. That's that's why. I mean,
14:15
Speaker 1: I can't believe you got in here with a gun. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So anyway, so these rolls of coins, he says to me, He.
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Speaker 2: Goes, hey, he's six foot six here you sor can
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Speaker 2: you buy? Do you know? Tell Frank Yeah, oh wow,
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Speaker 2: I remember.
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Speaker 1: He says, can you buy a roll of tokens from me?
14:31
Speaker 1: And I'm looking up at Lurch. I mean, he's sick,
14:33
Speaker 1: he's so big, and I'm like sure, and I still
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Speaker 1: don't know why. And I get the coins and I'm
14:39
Speaker 1: putting them in, but I'm watching to see what he's doing.
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Speaker 2: And I realized this.
14:43
Speaker 1: You could put the dollar in a dollar and there
14:46
Speaker 1: was a surrender button that gave you back the dollar.
14:50
Speaker 1: So if you didn't like your hand, start over. So
14:53
Speaker 1: if the dealer has a twenty up, I'm sorry, a
14:55
Speaker 1: ten up, you should surrender, even with eighteen eighteen is
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Speaker 1: a losing hand long term, so you can get your
15:01
Speaker 1: dollar back. And I'm doing it with him, and he's like, oh,
15:04
Speaker 1: we want to fill the hopper. We don't want the
15:06
Speaker 1: slot attendants coming over with bags and coins. They'll know
15:09
Speaker 1: we're doing something. I don't even know what we're doing.
15:11
Speaker 1: But he's that super smart. Not he's not really straight smart.
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Speaker 1: I love Frank, but i'm but he's not. Like he's
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Speaker 1: talking to me like I know what he's talking about.
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Speaker 1: And if anyone knows what surrender is, you get fifty
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Speaker 1: percent of your bet back.
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Speaker 2: This machine gave you the whole dollar back.
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Speaker 1: It may not sound like a lot, but here I
15:27
Speaker 1: am twenty two years old. I got maybe two three
15:29
Speaker 1: grand in the bank. I came down, there were five
15:31
Speaker 1: hundred bucks and I made six thousand that night, and
15:34
Speaker 1: I never looked back.
15:35
Speaker 2: Quit the jobs.
15:36
Speaker 1: Frank and I became partners in sports the next ten years.
15:40
Speaker 1: And it's amazing. You know, Frank, I didn't I thought
15:43
Speaker 1: maybe you knew him.
15:44
Speaker 5: But seeing him at Palace.
15:46
Speaker 2: At the Double Jokers, the Double Joker machines.
15:49
Speaker 9: Frank changed my life back when Trump only.
15:55
Speaker 2: I didn't have much money.
15:57
Speaker 1: And he's saying, do you bet with bookmakers in New
15:59
Speaker 1: York because I have bookmakers in Philadelphia in South Jersey.
16:03
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, he goes, well, wee can get some
16:05
Speaker 1: nice middles and scalps. I didn't even really know what
16:07
Speaker 1: middles and scalps were.
16:09
Speaker 2: So crack.
16:10
Speaker 6: How long was that machine like that today?
16:13
Speaker 2: Eighteen hours?
16:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, matter of fact, we built up all the comps
16:17
Speaker 1: The next day they took all the comps back. I
16:19
Speaker 1: remember I called my I wasn't married at the time,
16:21
Speaker 1: I was dating my wife, and I said, listen, I'm
16:23
Speaker 1: calling out of work.
16:23
Speaker 2: I got something going on. I can't talk to the
16:25
Speaker 2: LC home.
16:26
Speaker 1: And I remember, though, Frank and I going partners though
16:30
Speaker 1: after that, and the reason why we went partners. He
16:33
Speaker 1: was working fifty hours a week at Resorts International. I
16:35
Speaker 1: think Resorts is still a casino in Atlantic City. He
16:38
Speaker 1: was working there, and when he was working there, he's like,
16:42
Speaker 1: we can do some stuff and sports together, and you
16:45
Speaker 1: can use my two hundred and fifty thousand I.
16:47
Speaker 2: Have for sports.
16:49
Speaker 1: I used his bankroll to build up my bankroll. How
16:53
Speaker 1: lucky is that? How lucky is a guy you met?
16:56
Speaker 1: Because if a guy got up from machine, sat down there,
16:59
Speaker 1: and I was able to learn advantage sports bettings. I
17:03
Speaker 1: went on to write for a site called the RX
17:05
Speaker 1: dot com which was called The Prescription, and the owner
17:08
Speaker 1: of the site gave me a bunch of money to
17:10
Speaker 1: write an articles for him. By the way, I barely
17:12
Speaker 1: graduated high school. I don't right, I have no journalists degree.
17:15
Speaker 1: It's just all streets more, it's common sense. It's just
17:18
Speaker 1: all things that I've done on my playbook here. So yeah,
17:22
Speaker 1: by the way, I see Richie Wilkom the back here.
17:24
Speaker 1: You work for the casino. Don't be repeating on it
17:26
Speaker 1: this stuff to Steven's yeah, because I'm looking to rip
17:30
Speaker 1: your eyes out too over the whole casino. But anyway,
17:33
Speaker 1: Frank's changed my life. Bonuses back then were the big thing, Randy.
17:36
Speaker 1: Were you involved in the nineties or no.
17:39
Speaker 5: Late nineties, late nineties, that's when I started ninety seven.
17:41
Speaker 1: You would send money from the sports books. You could
17:44
Speaker 1: press a button and literally do a transfer to the
17:48
Speaker 1: sports but from one sports book to the other transfer
17:51
Speaker 1: over ten thousand, they give you a two thousand dollars bonus,
17:53
Speaker 1: or better yet, they would give you one hundred percent
17:56
Speaker 1: bonus if you've rolled it over seven times. There was
17:58
Speaker 1: some sick ones SPIAU, who's going to be He's going
18:01
Speaker 1: to be in the He's not here, right, I hope not.
18:03
Speaker 1: But Spiro is going to be in the Hall of Fame.
18:05
Speaker 1: On Friday Night. Spiro had the best bonus ever. He
18:08
Speaker 1: had a ten thousand dollars bonus. Send him ten thousand,
18:11
Speaker 1: and the book was called bet Jamaica. He bought a
18:14
Speaker 1: book called bet Jamaica off of these guys in Curis.
18:17
Speaker 1: How I believe Well, no, actually I think they were.
18:19
Speaker 1: I think they were the one guy, Marty was in
18:22
Speaker 1: Curis How I believe so. But yeah, they have a
18:24
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars bonus. Just send over ten to bet Jamaica.
18:28
Speaker 1: I swear, I don't know how I did this. I
18:30
Speaker 1: pressed the button I sent it from this They were
18:33
Speaker 1: in the same office because he owned the Greek dot
18:36
Speaker 1: com bet Jamaica.
18:37
Speaker 2: Same office. Took ten out of my Beck Greek account
18:39
Speaker 2: put it into bet Jamaica.
18:40
Speaker 1: I had twenty thousand. They doubled the bonus right in
18:43
Speaker 1: the same building. The bonuses were the biggest thing back then.
18:47
Speaker 5: Mansion had a free free bet. Lose a thousand, they
18:51
Speaker 5: give you back a thousand on the Steelers that first
18:53
Speaker 5: opening game back in the day, I did one with
18:56
Speaker 5: bet Maker.
18:57
Speaker 2: I don't know if bet Maker wasn't cure us how And.
19:01
Speaker 5: You could do five sign ups with them and get
19:03
Speaker 5: up to five thousand dollars. All the other people had
19:06
Speaker 5: to do was put like two thousand sign ups, so
19:08
Speaker 5: that that was another good one as well.
19:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just mentioned Mansion. Here's a perfect example about
19:14
Speaker 1: sports Looger Mansion.
19:14
Speaker 2: We're rich.
19:15
Speaker 1: They were pretty rich guys from New York. So Mansion
19:17
Speaker 1: opens up and they decide to take the NBA totals.
19:21
Speaker 1: Frank taught me this. I didn't Frank taught me this.
19:24
Speaker 2: He's like, Bill, what they're doing is very wrong.
19:27
Speaker 1: They had this is like the year two thousand, the
19:30
Speaker 1: total on the game's two hundred.
19:31
Speaker 2: It's fifty each quarter. That's what they said. That's not true.
19:35
Speaker 2: The first quarter.
19:35
Speaker 1: Should be fifty two, Steve something like that. Fifty two.
19:39
Speaker 1: They had fifty on every quarter. I bet every single
19:42
Speaker 1: one over and like built up a bankroll from that,
19:45
Speaker 1: I'm telling you.
19:45
Speaker 2: And they were a credit shop.
19:47
Speaker 1: Somehow I got credit there, but using Frank's money post
19:51
Speaker 1: up at a lot of those places. There was places
19:53
Speaker 1: in Australia can bet, and there was a couple of
19:57
Speaker 1: different sports books there. That's how I built up a
20:00
Speaker 1: bankroll doing that stuff. And just like with now with
20:04
Speaker 1: DraftKings and FanDuel and stuff, if you have a casino
20:06
Speaker 1: host right now, a host on one of those sites,
20:09
Speaker 1: they're still offering. One of our friends just got a
20:14
Speaker 1: twenty five thousand dollars bonus. He put in twenty five thousand,
20:17
Speaker 1: he lost it. They matched the twenty five thousand again.
20:21
Speaker 1: This is I'll just say it's DraftKings. So if so,
20:24
Speaker 1: if you have a sucker account, just or not a
20:26
Speaker 1: sucker account, that's the wrong word. If you have a
20:28
Speaker 1: losing account, there's nothing wrong with emailing a DraftKings or
20:31
Speaker 1: FanDuel and saying, hey, I just lost two grand, it
20:34
Speaker 1: just lost five grand. What can you do for me?
20:36
Speaker 1: Is there a host here? Because I can go over
20:37
Speaker 1: to Fandel, I can go over to MGM.
20:39
Speaker 10: Just ask.
20:39
Speaker 2: It can't hurt you asking. But that just happened with
20:43
Speaker 2: those books. So guys.
20:45
Speaker 1: I want to bring up a couple guys to talk
20:48
Speaker 1: about their business, which I'm actually learning more about every day.
20:53
Speaker 1: The first I'm gonna have is one of our sponsors
20:56
Speaker 1: on the show. We're gonna come up here. Come on up,
20:59
Speaker 1: wager Wire, come on up with us and introduce yourself
21:01
Speaker 1: to everybody and tell us.
21:03
Speaker 2: How you know. I'm I don't like parlays.
21:07
Speaker 1: They're really bad sucker bets, but that's what the books
21:10
Speaker 1: make their money out fifty percent. Some of them are
21:12
Speaker 1: reporting more than that, so I don't look at anything
21:15
Speaker 1: parlay related.
21:16
Speaker 2: So I do, but no kidding, but can't even do it.
21:19
Speaker 1: No, but now that I noticed that wager wire had
21:23
Speaker 1: some of the stuff on their site, I actually literally
21:26
Speaker 1: text Matt and said, Matt, this is a real thing,
21:30
Speaker 1: So tell tell the people what you you know you
21:32
Speaker 1: can do. If you ever have a site one of
21:33
Speaker 1: these sites, you'll see they offer buyouts. They're total sucker bets.
21:36
Speaker 1: Buy out for this or that. I've talked too much, Sorry, guys, No, no, well.
21:40
Speaker 6: Thanks for bringing me on. Zach Doctor with wager Wire
21:42
Speaker 6: co founder CEO.
21:43
Speaker 11: Yeah, so wager wire is a secondary market for bets,
21:46
Speaker 11: so a lot of people come to us when they
21:47
Speaker 11: have a big parlay. They're one leg away from winning
21:49
Speaker 11: a million dollars. Their cash out off or your mentioning
21:52
Speaker 11: bill is just trash. Usually right, it's fifty cents on
21:54
Speaker 11: the dollar. Actually, one of our most popular products is
21:57
Speaker 11: just our calculator if you want to just see what
21:58
Speaker 11: your bet is worth compared to the cash out and
22:01
Speaker 11: then yeah, we put up on the market. Buyers come in.
22:04
Speaker 11: You know people here in this room might want to
22:05
Speaker 11: be buyers. You can buy that ticket. Basically you have
22:07
Speaker 11: to beat the cash out offer. Uh, there's one or
22:10
Speaker 11: two legs left. You can hedge it out. You can
22:12
Speaker 11: guarantee yourself ten fifteen percent usually. But yeah, we have
22:15
Speaker 11: a couple of monsters on here. If you want to
22:16
Speaker 11: see a couple of our biggest ones.
22:18
Speaker 6: We just got in.
22:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have one shows? All right?
22:21
Speaker 11: Well, actually one better has two different crazy bets on
22:24
Speaker 11: our site.
22:25
Speaker 6: They're both five leg parlays. Three of the legs have
22:28
Speaker 6: hit already.
22:28
Speaker 11: So they got Florida to win n c Double a
22:31
Speaker 11: March Madness, They got the Thunder to win the NBA Finals,
22:34
Speaker 11: and then they got Edmonton Oilers to make it to
22:37
Speaker 11: the finals. So the first ticket will win. It will
22:39
Speaker 11: win a million dollars, seven figure payout. The last two
22:42
Speaker 11: legs are the Yankees to make the.
22:44
Speaker 1: World Series, to make it, not to win make the
22:47
Speaker 1: World Series, that's even tough.
22:49
Speaker 2: Tough, that's not happening.
22:50
Speaker 6: And then the Lions to win the Super Bowl. That's
22:53
Speaker 6: I don't really think the Lions are going to win
22:55
Speaker 6: it either.
22:56
Speaker 11: Division he bet one hundred bucks to win a million
22:59
Speaker 11: right now, our calculator, given the odds I think on
23:01
Speaker 11: the Lions are like plus one thousand Yankees is plus
23:04
Speaker 11: five hundred to make the World Series. It's worth fifteen grand.
23:09
Speaker 11: And so a lot of times these guys don't have
23:10
Speaker 11: the capital to hedge it. You know, they're facing a
23:12
Speaker 11: decision where that could be life changing money to somebody,
23:15
Speaker 11: and they don't have really any out. So what wager
23:18
Speaker 11: wired does you know? We do more than just the
23:19
Speaker 11: secondary market too. We're really just trying to help you
23:22
Speaker 11: after the bettest place get the most value out of it.
23:25
Speaker 11: But the same guy has another one with the same
23:28
Speaker 11: three legs hit. This one will win five hundred and
23:30
Speaker 11: fifty five thousand, but it has the Lions still as
23:32
Speaker 11: the winner. As the Super Bowl winner, but the other
23:35
Speaker 11: leg instead of the Yankees, it's Dodgers to.
23:37
Speaker 6: Win the World Series.
23:38
Speaker 8: Now we're talking.
23:39
Speaker 11: Yeah, John, you should buy this one. This one's worth
23:41
Speaker 11: about eleven thousand. As long as the Dodgers win it,
23:43
Speaker 11: you're in the money.
23:43
Speaker 6: You could sell the lion's.
23:45
Speaker 2: Leg before it's over. Great, great question.
23:49
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think the cash out. I don't know there's
23:51
Speaker 11: a cash out on the million dollar one. On the
23:54
Speaker 11: five hundred and fifty five K, it's about six thousand,
23:57
Speaker 11: and the current value, based on the odds of the
23:59
Speaker 11: two legs remaining, would be more like eleven thousand.
24:01
Speaker 1: Okay, so six thousand the site that you're betting an
24:03
Speaker 1: I'm to offer a wager wire it's up for gonna
24:06
Speaker 1: be up for less than eleven though.
24:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So like the.
24:08
Speaker 11: Happy medium is right, Yeah, you could just knew better today.
24:13
Speaker 11: You could just place a parley on the Daughters and
24:15
Speaker 11: the lions. So that's kind of the ceiling of what
24:18
Speaker 11: it could trade for, right, because otherwise why would you
24:20
Speaker 11: buy it from this guy?
24:21
Speaker 6: You just place a new one.
24:22
Speaker 11: But then so in between that those two prices of
24:25
Speaker 11: basically laying twelve k would be the placing it out
24:28
Speaker 11: the sports book versus the cash out price is kind
24:30
Speaker 11: of the.
24:31
Speaker 6: Floor you have to beat.
24:32
Speaker 11: So there's a big window, you know, it's forty percent
24:34
Speaker 11: margin in there in between basically, So wager Wire lives
24:36
Speaker 11: in that, in that middle ground where it's a win
24:38
Speaker 11: win on both sides.
24:40
Speaker 6: A lot of times their buyers will just buy that
24:41
Speaker 6: and hedge it out.
24:42
Speaker 11: Sometimes they'll you know, be willing to take some positional
24:45
Speaker 11: risk on the other side. But I think, John, you
24:47
Speaker 11: should buy that daughter's one. That one feels right up
24:49
Speaker 11: your alley home.
24:52
Speaker 2: What do you guys think? I mean, yeah, lions, that's
24:54
Speaker 2: not happening. That's gonna be tough. Yeah happen.
25:06
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
25:14
Speaker 2: It could be some hedging, right.
25:19
Speaker 1: You know, Steve I was on air doing a podcast
25:32
Speaker 1: with and brought their thing up with John. When the
25:34
Speaker 1: podcast was over, I said, wait a minute, I'm not reading.
25:38
Speaker 2: We're all air now.
25:39
Speaker 1: I called them. I said, listen, the MAT's not right here.
25:42
Speaker 1: Something's wrong. You're telling me this. I said, I could
25:44
Speaker 1: lock up like six thousand dollars right now by buying this,
25:47
Speaker 1: and they actually said yes. So I'm surprised they didn't
25:50
Speaker 1: have someone in there, you know, like trying to. I
25:52
Speaker 1: mean some of the value is sometimes people don't even
25:54
Speaker 1: know the bids that the offers they put up. I
25:57
Speaker 1: don't look at anything partly related. This opened my eyes
26:00
Speaker 1: eyes to that a little bit. And thanks for your
26:02
Speaker 1: question though, Steve. Steve, by the way, Steve Diana one
26:05
Speaker 1: of the sharpest guys in the business for years, FATS
26:08
Speaker 1: is one of the sharpest guys. Been around every single
26:11
Speaker 1: major syndicate. Hope, I'm allowed to say this, you know,
26:14
Speaker 1: and in and out of jail.
26:16
Speaker 2: It is what it is. We're all friends. No, no, but.
26:23
Speaker 1: No, but but Steve, Steve's I remember World Series.
26:28
Speaker 9: Yeah, Poker, you want to get a game, and Steve's
26:31
Speaker 9: trying to.
26:32
Speaker 1: And guys that are trying to get ras games going
26:34
Speaker 1: usually the smarter ones. I've seen a hand him.
26:51
Speaker 6: So yeah, so we're I mean, we work with draftings.
26:54
Speaker 11: We're actually talking about that we have an integrated white
26:56
Speaker 11: label version of this that we're pitching them to actually
26:58
Speaker 11: plug right in as a feature in their as ye.
27:00
Speaker 6: So yeah, like we've never had.
27:03
Speaker 11: Any problem with them trying to avoid something because it
27:05
Speaker 11: was traded, Like the bet stays in the seller's account
27:08
Speaker 11: and then you know it doesn't actually move unless we're
27:10
Speaker 11: integrated with them. So it's really like DraftKings is kind
27:14
Speaker 11: of none the wiser for when it trades when we're
27:16
Speaker 11: not plugged in. But yes, like I mean, we're trying
27:19
Speaker 11: to get this plug in with them, so it could
27:21
Speaker 11: be real time settlement, instant transfer, the payout.
27:23
Speaker 6: That makes it a lot cleaner for taxes and everything
27:25
Speaker 6: else too.
27:26
Speaker 11: But you know we can we can facilitate it outside
27:28
Speaker 11: of the system as well.
27:29
Speaker 1: Do you have a hard time dealing with these these
27:32
Speaker 1: guys with their fancy college degrees that have no common sense? Now,
27:36
Speaker 1: I'm not saying DraftKings in general, all of them, though
27:38
Speaker 1: they're marketing guys. They're guys that never gambled in their life.
27:41
Speaker 1: I said already if I had a sports book, or
27:44
Speaker 1: if I had a casino, if I was a casino on,
27:46
Speaker 1: I would never hire anyone to list lose a paycheck.
27:49
Speaker 1: I want you, guys, I want my employees to know
27:51
Speaker 1: where to list, to gamble, and what it is to
27:53
Speaker 1: feel like that you know sucker or something.
27:55
Speaker 2: Are you have a hard time getting to them?
27:57
Speaker 1: Every casino has levels where they pay, They pay people
28:01
Speaker 1: to say no, so you don't get to let's say
28:04
Speaker 1: I'll use here, so well, Derek's so hands on, I
28:06
Speaker 1: can't really use here.
28:07
Speaker 2: Let's use a corporation. Let's use the Caesars.
28:09
Speaker 1: So you can't get to the guy at Caesar's up
28:12
Speaker 1: top because.
28:13
Speaker 2: He has many levels below him.
28:15
Speaker 1: And those people they're petrified to make any decisions that's
28:19
Speaker 1: going to cost them their jobs. They want to just
28:21
Speaker 1: steal their paycheck and go home. And they don't want
28:23
Speaker 1: to be asked any question. God only ask me a
28:25
Speaker 1: question today that can get fired.
28:26
Speaker 2: Amen.
28:26
Speaker 1: No, So do you have a hard time getting to
28:29
Speaker 1: the right person at the DraftKings, FanDuel, all these big companies.
28:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you.
28:32
Speaker 11: Got to work that, work your way up to those
28:34
Speaker 11: relationships basically. But we've been in this, We've been going
28:37
Speaker 11: at it for a couple of years and with the
28:38
Speaker 11: help of you know, kind.
28:39
Speaker 6: Of folks like you and yeah, other people have been
28:41
Speaker 6: doing the build relationships.
28:42
Speaker 2: So tell them how they can find you. You have
28:44
Speaker 2: the app and that we have an Apple Wager wire.
28:46
Speaker 11: We're in the app Store and Android and Apple, and
28:49
Speaker 11: then you can go to our website as well.
28:51
Speaker 6: Find us on Twitter. Twitter's our main social account.
28:54
Speaker 2: And how about your actual website.
28:55
Speaker 7: Is it.
28:58
Speaker 11: Good?
28:59
Speaker 6: You can find you know, find me on Twitter to
29:01
Speaker 6: wage to our.
29:02
Speaker 1: CEO, and you're pretty pretty open to answering questions and stuff.
29:05
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
29:05
Speaker 11: Absolutely, most people come to us just because they want
29:08
Speaker 11: to find out, you know, what are my options. You know,
29:10
Speaker 11: they're not even necessarily there yet to like get to
29:12
Speaker 11: the selling part and they use the calculator, see what
29:15
Speaker 11: it's worth, and then we can put it up and
29:16
Speaker 11: start fielding bids. You want to be a buyer and
29:19
Speaker 11: just like throw some low balls out there see if
29:21
Speaker 11: someone buyes.
29:21
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on, appreciate it, Thank you, thank It's
29:24
Speaker 1: a good deal.
29:26
Speaker 11: No.
29:26
Speaker 1: So the next guy I'm bringing up is I have
29:29
Speaker 1: some really qu I don't work with him right now,
29:31
Speaker 1: but I have some questions for them because I've had
29:33
Speaker 1: some problems in my life getting money to sports books
29:36
Speaker 1: and payment solutions. This is thirty years Senny, can you
29:39
Speaker 1: come on up, Senny Thomas. Edge Boost is his company.
29:43
Speaker 1: They were one of the sponsors at the World Series and.
29:45
Speaker 2: I saw them all over the World Series this year
29:47
Speaker 2: and Vson I do my VS show.
29:49
Speaker 1: I hear you guys on Vson, So you know my
29:52
Speaker 1: experience with credit cards online and with companies. First of all,
29:56
Speaker 1: they charge me fees.
29:57
Speaker 2: I hate. I ran the money on I don't know
30:00
Speaker 2: if you work with Do you work with betmgm?
30:02
Speaker 11: You do?
30:02
Speaker 2: I mean I ran the money on bet MGM.
30:04
Speaker 1: I had to run down to the strip and I
30:07
Speaker 1: went and looked at like credit card options and stuff,
30:09
Speaker 1: just because I needed to bet in that minute. Knew
30:10
Speaker 1: it was gonna move and you can bet more at
30:12
Speaker 1: the counter sometimes, but this particular situation, I wanted to
30:15
Speaker 1: bet at the app, didn't have the money there. I
30:18
Speaker 1: looked to payment Solutions and I see they charge you
30:21
Speaker 1: like three percent or something. Now we'll tell people what
30:24
Speaker 1: you guys do compared to what's out there now any
30:28
Speaker 1: competition wise.
30:29
Speaker 2: Yeah.
30:29
Speaker 8: So, I mean, first of all, I mean, thank thanks
30:31
Speaker 8: for having us. I mean, bette bash is really kind
30:32
Speaker 8: of our people.
30:34
Speaker 7: We've really kind of built this entire product from the
30:36
Speaker 7: ground up with a lot of feedback from the community.
30:39
Speaker 7: And at the end of the day, because I kind
30:40
Speaker 7: of like maybe a show of hands, right, how many
30:42
Speaker 7: people here have been had a bank account frozen or
30:45
Speaker 7: a transaction frozen, been kicked out of the bank.
30:48
Speaker 1: I've been throwing to like like like lose your Chase
30:50
Speaker 1: Chase bank, right, Yeah, they do so many gaming transactions,
30:53
Speaker 1: they just.
30:54
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely hate it.
30:55
Speaker 3: Right.
30:55
Speaker 7: I mean, at the end of the day, if you
30:57
Speaker 7: have any gambling transactions, you are, you know, a second
30:59
Speaker 7: class citizen.
31:00
Speaker 8: It's businesses they don't want.
31:02
Speaker 7: And we've heard all kinds of horror stories and the
31:04
Speaker 7: same with like you know, PayPal accounts getting frozen.
31:06
Speaker 2: There's no one to communicate with.
31:07
Speaker 8: So we took the long, painful route.
31:10
Speaker 7: You know, it took us about four years, and we've
31:12
Speaker 7: actually spun up an entire bank only for the gaming industry.
31:17
Speaker 7: So what that means is you sign up with us,
31:18
Speaker 7: you know, you get an FDIs see insured checking account.
31:21
Speaker 7: But what's cool about this is it is one hundred
31:23
Speaker 7: percent approval for all gambling transactions. This is could be
31:26
Speaker 7: sports betting and horse racing. You can walk into any consisting.
31:29
Speaker 2: So hard to believe one hundred percent approval.
31:30
Speaker 7: One hundred percent approval and you can do a quarter
31:32
Speaker 7: million dollars a day in volume.
31:35
Speaker 3: Wow.
31:36
Speaker 7: And it's the highest debit card limited in history for
31:38
Speaker 7: any banking product. And the only thing this bank account
31:41
Speaker 7: can do though, is gambling. So we kind of stay
31:43
Speaker 7: in our lane and we worked with a lot of
31:45
Speaker 7: the regulators to say, hey, this is all we're gonna do,
31:47
Speaker 7: but we're gonna do it really well. Uh and once
31:49
Speaker 7: you have that bank account, you know, you can keep
31:51
Speaker 7: all these transactions off of your primary checking it's really clean.
31:54
Speaker 7: We have a lot of great kind of budgeting and
31:57
Speaker 7: responsible gambling features built into it as well. And then
32:00
Speaker 7: we're really excited to kind of announce that we've been
32:02
Speaker 7: getting a lot of feedback here at bet bash Is.
32:05
Speaker 7: You know, we've been working Actually, Circu has been a
32:06
Speaker 7: phenomenal partner. You know, they have a lot of people. Obviously,
32:09
Speaker 7: they take a lot of great action, people flying in
32:11
Speaker 7: with you know, two hundred K and you know, and
32:13
Speaker 7: then their backpacks. Right, So we can kind of help
32:16
Speaker 7: streamline facilitate a lot of those types of transactions. But
32:20
Speaker 7: not only is it difficult to get money in, right,
32:23
Speaker 7: but to your point, outside of banking hours, it's pretty
32:27
Speaker 7: much impossible to access any money. You know, you can
32:30
Speaker 7: walk into you know, any casino, were trying to get
32:32
Speaker 7: money in on on a weekend, you know, on a
32:34
Speaker 7: Saturday morning for some action on Sunday, it's not a
32:37
Speaker 7: lot of options.
32:38
Speaker 8: So we are now the first and only bank right
32:40
Speaker 8: now in the US.
32:41
Speaker 7: It's been approved for real time bank to bank transfers
32:45
Speaker 7: for gaming, and then coming in October as well, we've
32:48
Speaker 7: been approved for crypto to USD conversion for gaming as well,
32:52
Speaker 7: and we basically built up.
32:53
Speaker 1: Supply Centay, you're the bank though we are a bank. Yeah,
32:56
Speaker 1: I got to be blunt. I just found that this today.
32:58
Speaker 1: So now you're saying encrypto. Isn't the government petrified of
33:02
Speaker 1: any of these things happening? Uncle Sam, big brother on
33:05
Speaker 1: top of you, how did you get this reduction?
33:09
Speaker 7: It was really painful and I think I had to
33:10
Speaker 7: start dying my hair a little bit. Yeah, I had
33:12
Speaker 7: two kids along the way as well, you know, last four.
33:15
Speaker 1: No, I'm just being serious. I'm just like, how can
33:16
Speaker 1: you get all these things approved? These were so strict.
33:20
Speaker 1: Now they're trying to charge us taxes on money. Would't
33:22
Speaker 1: to win and here you have.
33:23
Speaker 8: It's a great question.
33:25
Speaker 7: But the real key to this is that we set
33:27
Speaker 7: this up as the first and only limited use checking
33:30
Speaker 7: account in the US. So yeah, circa for example, you
33:34
Speaker 7: could walk up to the cage with our.
33:35
Speaker 8: Car pull out a quarter million bucks. But if you
33:38
Speaker 8: went to the.
33:38
Speaker 7: Bar the card is declined, so we stay in our lane.
33:41
Speaker 7: And actually by blocking all of these transactions that are
33:44
Speaker 7: not a ID verified you know, kyced gaming transaction.
33:49
Speaker 8: We actually block a lot of the potential money laundering vectors.
33:51
Speaker 7: Right. You can't go by gift cars or swipe it
33:53
Speaker 7: as some shady restaurant.
33:55
Speaker 2: Yes.
33:55
Speaker 7: And the good news too is that if someone steals
33:57
Speaker 7: your car, the only place they could ever use it
33:59
Speaker 7: at is an other account that is controlled by you.
34:01
Speaker 8: It has also been IDE verified.
34:03
Speaker 1: I'm looking on this thing, randing Amy. So you guys
34:05
Speaker 1: are paying people back for using the card.
34:07
Speaker 2: We sure do.
34:07
Speaker 7: So we make money, right, so every single time that
34:10
Speaker 7: card is swipe, you know, we generate about one point
34:12
Speaker 7: three percent. That's what pays for card rewards programs, and
34:16
Speaker 7: we actually do pass through up to a half a
34:17
Speaker 7: percent to our players.
34:19
Speaker 2: Let me let me be blump. How do you make money?
34:21
Speaker 8: Well on the rest of it, right, it's a volume
34:23
Speaker 8: game for us.
34:24
Speaker 7: We will have additional fees for some of like the
34:26
Speaker 7: things around the crypto conversion and such.
34:28
Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean.
34:29
Speaker 7: It's it's really just a safe place where you know,
34:32
Speaker 7: you can kind of sleep a little bit better, you know,
34:34
Speaker 7: you'll never wake up with some kind of freeze or
34:36
Speaker 7: you know, everyone here has gone through the pain.
34:39
Speaker 4: Can you deposit cash directly into you or it has to.
34:42
Speaker 7: Go to your bank first, then to go to your
34:44
Speaker 7: bank versus's That's a great question.
34:45
Speaker 2: Is always trying to skip?
34:46
Speaker 4: I'm always trying to launder, you know, no kidding, never serious,
34:51
Speaker 4: stop recording, serious, stop recording.
34:53
Speaker 7: Okay, but but yeah, you know, we were working really
34:55
Speaker 7: closely with a lot of the operators now as well,
34:58
Speaker 7: and you know it's you know, whether it's online or offline.
35:01
Speaker 7: I mean, cash access is really the biggest you know,
35:04
Speaker 7: pain point for.
35:05
Speaker 8: Both players but also the operators.
35:07
Speaker 7: And then you kind of look at the Lambeast community
35:09
Speaker 7: when you know we're doing a lot actually you know
35:11
Speaker 7: with Circa here, you know, with Changa and a number
35:13
Speaker 7: of other casinos, and.
35:15
Speaker 8: It's still eighty percent cash, which is wild.
35:18
Speaker 7: I mean, this is like the single largest use case
35:20
Speaker 7: for cash left in the entire US economy, and the
35:23
Speaker 7: main bottlenk has always been banking.
35:25
Speaker 2: Yeah.
35:26
Speaker 5: Plus I saw a little advantage play too. If you
35:29
Speaker 5: sign up for you guys have a little will spin.
35:31
Speaker 5: I saw it last night at.
35:32
Speaker 8: The say it's actually been stopping a lot on the
35:35
Speaker 8: five hundred.
35:36
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's right, but never a fear.
35:39
Speaker 1: Randy will tell you any kind of bonus so you
35:41
Speaker 1: could steal, Sonny, how can they find you since edgeboost dot.
35:45
Speaker 7: Bet if you do use the bet bashed promo code
35:47
Speaker 7: and sign up and you do started a higher tier
35:49
Speaker 7: as well, so that I'll give you a higher limits
35:51
Speaker 7: as well as higher cash back to get started.
35:54
Speaker 8: But but yeah, you know we're here.
35:55
Speaker 7: We have a booth here, you know, happy to answer
35:57
Speaker 7: any more questions.
35:58
Speaker 2: But good and Steve has a question. Thanks, we got
36:01
Speaker 2: what Steve that is correct?
36:10
Speaker 7: No, no, no, so that they're just very good questions.
36:13
Speaker 7: So this is for US residence for legal US operators. Again,
36:16
Speaker 7: I mean we got to stay in our lane. There
36:18
Speaker 7: any dollar that goes, you know, across the border, it
36:20
Speaker 7: gets quite complicated.
36:21
Speaker 2: Well, Senny, thanks for coming on. We appreciate it. Thank you.
36:24
Speaker 1: I appreciate you telling us a couple of things. Steve Physicks,
36:28
Speaker 1: you sent me something. You're right when we do get
36:30
Speaker 1: these bonuses, I learned this from you. When you do
36:33
Speaker 1: get a bonus, even the little two hundred dollars bonus
36:36
Speaker 1: for five hundred dollars bonus, and yeah, sure, ye sell
36:39
Speaker 1: your product and walk.
36:40
Speaker 2: Out, all right, So it is what it is. We're
36:43
Speaker 2: all you know, it is what it is. Okay.
36:46
Speaker 1: So this this guy, this guy must be just like
36:49
Speaker 1: a college educated, very bright guy, lives in a little hoy.
36:52
Speaker 2: He must like hate me. I ask him all the
36:54
Speaker 2: critical stuff, all right. So anyway, Steve, you're right.
36:57
Speaker 1: When you get these little two hundred dollars booster bonuses,
37:01
Speaker 1: why should we play them at something plus money that's
37:05
Speaker 1: even a future rather than just bet two hundred on
37:07
Speaker 1: the aks tonight minus two hundred and let me get
37:09
Speaker 1: one hundred bucks.
37:11
Speaker 2: Because if you play it.
37:12
Speaker 12: Against the spread, you're gonna let's say at eight bonuses,
37:15
Speaker 12: all right, one hundred dollars.
37:17
Speaker 2: Eight bonuses, that's.
37:18
Speaker 8: Gonna be worth four hundred because you're gonna go four and.
37:20
Speaker 2: Four probably right, so you're gonna.
37:22
Speaker 4: Win four to take away your month.
37:24
Speaker 13: So you're gonna get four hundred dollars. So that eight
37:25
Speaker 13: hundred bonuses, it's worth fifty cents on the dollar. Well,
37:28
Speaker 13: let's assume we play some by hundred dollars. Let's say
37:30
Speaker 13: you play some threeteen parlays. Right, you're gonna go and
37:33
Speaker 13: play eight of them, all right. Normally we don't like
37:35
Speaker 13: to say.
37:35
Speaker 2: Parlays, but now parleys, yes, so we go one and seven.
37:39
Speaker 2: That's what we're supposed to do.
37:40
Speaker 13: And in fact, you could play every combination of.
37:43
Speaker 12: The If there's three different games and you're gonna go
37:47
Speaker 12: one and seven, well guess what you're gonna get back
37:49
Speaker 12: six hundred instead of four hundred. So you're gonna get
37:52
Speaker 12: seventy five cents on the dollar versus fifty cents on
37:55
Speaker 12: the dollars.
37:55
Speaker 2: So think about this.
37:56
Speaker 13: If you get a thousand dollars bonus, that's like you're
37:59
Speaker 13: gonna get seven.
37:59
Speaker 12: Fifty bucks back instead of five hundred dollars. Has nothing
38:02
Speaker 12: to do with handicapping. The handicap work.
38:04
Speaker 11: They'll lick.
38:04
Speaker 13: So always play like a big money line.
38:08
Speaker 12: You got to take big mine of my dog, play
38:09
Speaker 12: for the boy.
38:11
Speaker 2: So that's good.
38:12
Speaker 1: That's good to know though, because most people would just say, hey,
38:14
Speaker 1: I'm betting my two hundred dollars partly on the end
38:16
Speaker 1: my two hundred dollars bonus on the anks tonight because
38:19
Speaker 1: they should win their minus two to one.
38:21
Speaker 2: So that's good to know. Onto a couple other things.
38:24
Speaker 2: Question but who else? Of course.
38:31
Speaker 8: The whole point.
38:35
Speaker 3: You get a chance to push, you might get more combinations.
38:39
Speaker 2: More interesting, interesting, and one more if you like, you
38:43
Speaker 2: bet your balls off on.
38:44
Speaker 13: Some teezer and take minus seven down much fine, you're like,
38:47
Speaker 13: please God, Denver.
38:48
Speaker 2: Wine and I thought them and survived.
38:51
Speaker 13: Or Also, what's it natural to play the Titans with
38:54
Speaker 13: a bonus?
38:55
Speaker 3: Right?
38:55
Speaker 5: So you just kind of play that back on the.
38:57
Speaker 12: Titans plus twenty five?
38:59
Speaker 2: So think about it.
39:00
Speaker 13: If your Survivor pick on Denver goes off the flames boom,
39:03
Speaker 13: well at least you got a little consolation with that.
39:07
Speaker 1: On the other on the dog, Steve, why you're standing up,
39:11
Speaker 1: don't sit while you're standing up.
39:13
Speaker 2: Sorry, I want.
39:14
Speaker 1: You to just tell people because I love that strategy
39:16
Speaker 1: for Survivor.
39:17
Speaker 2: Can you just tell him about the.
39:19
Speaker 1: Eagles first first week what they should do or listen,
39:22
Speaker 1: We're all going to get in Survivor no matter what.
39:24
Speaker 1: But why should we get more entries if something happens? Yeah,
39:28
Speaker 1: come up, of course, get on video. We're not No,
39:33
Speaker 1: it's actually a very good strategy. And I tell you
39:36
Speaker 1: what I now, I tell Frankie, my buddy, Frankie, Myrtle
39:38
Speaker 1: Beach he's got so much gamble to my said, listen,
39:40
Speaker 1: this is a good strategy. I don't even know this happened.
39:42
Speaker 1: I sent him the strategy. He goes, hey, you're out
39:43
Speaker 1: of your mind. I'm getting ten entries no matter what.
39:45
Speaker 1: But because he's just a gambler, but go ahead, Steve,
39:47
Speaker 1: tell a story.
39:48
Speaker 10: So it's fantastic that Circa and other shops let you
39:52
Speaker 10: enter up until Saturday for Survivor, but the game start
39:56
Speaker 10: on Thursday. So think about that. If you want to
39:59
Speaker 10: play survive and you want to optimize your entries, you
40:04
Speaker 10: really want to pass post the information what happens if
40:08
Speaker 10: Philly beats Dallas boom. Now you're gonna have like four
40:11
Speaker 10: or five thousand people, assuming like twenty twenty five percent
40:14
Speaker 10: of the people are gonna take Philly right and they're
40:16
Speaker 10: one to oh, you're oh to oh, they're ahead of you.
40:20
Speaker 2: So you're now paying a rake. Survivors a lot of fun.
40:23
Speaker 10: You still might want to enter, but recognize you are
40:26
Speaker 10: paying a rake, not because that circa is charging you,
40:30
Speaker 10: but basically you're behind the eight ball because there's a
40:33
Speaker 10: bunch of people who are already through to week two. However,
40:37
Speaker 10: should Philly lose to Dallas. Now you're gonna have like
40:41
Speaker 10: four five thousand people all put in one thousand dollars
40:44
Speaker 10: and it all goes into the pool. It's a fantastic overlay.
40:47
Speaker 10: So if you're trying to think like how many entries
40:49
Speaker 10: should I have in survivors?
40:50
Speaker 2: Should I have three? Should I have six? Well, if
40:52
Speaker 2: Dallas wins, you should have ten.
40:55
Speaker 10: That's gonna be the best possible usage of your money
40:58
Speaker 10: because you're gonna have like a twenty percent over. But
41:01
Speaker 10: if Philly wins, pump the brakes and probably go clauses.
41:04
Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, now you would think like,
41:06
Speaker 1: look at look at the Dallas line today.
41:08
Speaker 2: A couple six is popped up there, so there's six
41:11
Speaker 2: and a half. There's even one seven.
41:13
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the live screen, there's a couple of
41:16
Speaker 1: Philadelphia doesn't have to beat Dallas.
41:18
Speaker 2: As we know.
41:18
Speaker 1: Last year, look what happened uh Cincinnati first week? I
41:21
Speaker 1: think there were seven to seven and a half point
41:22
Speaker 1: favorite as we are, Yeah, there was a by by
41:26
Speaker 1: what you know, someone the other day told me by
41:29
Speaker 1: was it?
41:29
Speaker 2: By week five? Ninety six percent was out of the pool.
41:32
Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. I don't remember that you're welcome to stay
41:35
Speaker 2: if you want.
41:36
Speaker 5: You're gonna add the phasis strategy to a lot of
41:38
Speaker 5: people are gonna rebuy if Philly loses as well, so
41:42
Speaker 5: that'll add.
41:43
Speaker 2: We didn't want to tell him that.
41:45
Speaker 1: No, no, I honestly, it is a good strategy, like
41:47
Speaker 1: like Steve says, to go to that.
41:49
Speaker 2: I just thought it was pretty good.
41:51
Speaker 1: Now, this is a shocking thing that that just came
41:53
Speaker 1: out that I was reading.
41:54
Speaker 2: Do you know Nevada leads the.
41:57
Speaker 1: Country in unemployment zero point five percent out of work.
42:02
Speaker 2: I had no idea.
42:03
Speaker 1: I thought our economy, even though we had a slow July,
42:06
Speaker 1: our economy's booming. There's no one taking up collection buckets
42:09
Speaker 1: for these casinos. They're literally they have made one percent
42:13
Speaker 1: more year over year gambling wise, but they're down double
42:17
Speaker 1: digit ten eleven, twelve, fifteen year. Heard different things, but
42:20
Speaker 1: I didn't know that Nevada was down on We were
42:24
Speaker 1: the number one unemployment rate in the country.
42:27
Speaker 2: Is that because they're gambling?
42:28
Speaker 1: I mean, is that because according to what I'm reading
42:31
Speaker 1: here and this is a really good site, this is
42:33
Speaker 1: casino dot Org. I got a lot of good stories
42:35
Speaker 1: off there. This story came from there. Good, there's some
42:38
Speaker 1: really good guys. I just didn't know that we were
42:41
Speaker 1: that bad economy wise. I didn't realize that Richie left.
42:45
Speaker 1: Richie Wilke left, he's out.
42:47
Speaker 2: We can talk about circa now.
42:48
Speaker 1: No, no, Richie, Richie's been around. I've known Richie twenty
42:50
Speaker 1: five years. I wanted to know how long he was
42:52
Speaker 1: in town. I didn't know you, not that I want
42:55
Speaker 1: to talk about a bad thing. But there was a
42:57
Speaker 1: roof fire. It's an hour the other day. Did you
42:59
Speaker 1: know about that roof fired? To harr evacuated the most
43:02
Speaker 1: of it was quickly a sting extinguished, but they evacuated
43:05
Speaker 1: a lot of the building. Now, this just happened over
43:07
Speaker 1: at the Cromwell too. There was a fire at the Cromwell.
43:11
Speaker 1: But of course now they have sprinklers and stuff, so
43:13
Speaker 1: they got the people out. But it reminded me of
43:16
Speaker 1: something that probably almost everyone in this room won't know
43:20
Speaker 1: or remember about because it happened before us.
43:22
Speaker 2: But it happened in nineteen eighty. There was a big
43:25
Speaker 2: fire here at MGM Grand Oh big yeah, you know, yeah, okay,
43:29
Speaker 2: I feel like my dad was there? Oh was your
43:31
Speaker 2: dad actually there?
43:32
Speaker 1: Think?
43:32
Speaker 13: So?
43:32
Speaker 2: Wow? Yeah, well, what was there? I seen your dad
43:35
Speaker 2: there on a video.
43:36
Speaker 4: That was when MGM was was where the Bally's is
43:39
Speaker 4: are now the horses now horseshop.
43:41
Speaker 1: I've seen your dad on a great video there with
43:42
Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali and Dean Martin on.
43:45
Speaker 2: The roast roast. So I've seen that, so I know
43:47
Speaker 2: they used to do the roast in that building.
43:48
Speaker 1: But nineteen eighty at MGM, you know these things they
43:51
Speaker 1: want to sweep on the road.
43:52
Speaker 2: Don't want to talk about this stuff. Now, eighty five
43:55
Speaker 2: people were killed inside the casino. I didn't know that
43:58
Speaker 2: eighty five people, like, no one even knows about that.
44:00
Speaker 1: But I just went back to that fire to see what,
44:02
Speaker 1: how did that possibly happen? No sprinklers in the casino
44:08
Speaker 1: except in the casino cage.
44:11
Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. Money, that's unbelievable. Just protect the money. It's unbelievable.
44:15
Speaker 5: I rerather one in twenty ten. I know if you
44:17
Speaker 5: guys remember the.
44:18
Speaker 2: Money, Carlo right on people, I was intense.
44:21
Speaker 5: I said, if it was it would have been a
44:22
Speaker 5: windy day that day, it would have been real bad.
44:25
Speaker 5: The whole strip might have lit up. If if that
44:28
Speaker 5: wouldn't have.
44:29
Speaker 9: Been Yeah, this incident that was one I remember.
44:33
Speaker 1: But since then, this incident that happened in nineteen eighty
44:36
Speaker 1: literally led to the reformation of the whole safety code
44:40
Speaker 1: and sprinklers now everywhere.
44:42
Speaker 2: But I did not know until I've seen this a horrifire.
44:45
Speaker 1: I thought, like a couple people died eighty five, that
44:49
Speaker 1: giant news. I just thought it was, you know, not
44:52
Speaker 1: that I had to get try to be, you know,
44:55
Speaker 1: bring the show down. Also, Arizona, I find Arizona just amazing.
45:01
Speaker 1: Arizona Chris Cris which was offshore for years. Chris is
45:06
Speaker 1: now legal in Arizona. One thing, and I'm happy. I'm
45:10
Speaker 1: happy for them. I like that brand back East, it's
45:13
Speaker 1: called Prime sports Book. I like those guys. You know,
45:16
Speaker 1: they've been around for a while, and I like they
45:18
Speaker 1: take on all comers. They don't throw out people. They're
45:20
Speaker 1: not like the other sports books that will limit you.
45:22
Speaker 1: They'll learn off you and and literally take your bet
45:25
Speaker 1: and move the lines. But the Arizona Department of Gaming
45:28
Speaker 1: this week has launched the first statewide public education campaign
45:34
Speaker 1: to protect consumers from a legal gambling risk from offshore
45:39
Speaker 1: sports books. I just can't believe, like Arizona's protecting. They're
45:44
Speaker 1: they're going after the sports books offshore.
45:48
Speaker 2: They have a ton of their own sports books there.
45:50
Speaker 1: And I read about this thing about protecting kids and
45:53
Speaker 1: protect Listen, I'm the one that tells it like it is.
45:56
Speaker 1: Get myself in trouble A lot costs myself sponsors at Bunny.
45:59
Speaker 1: I want to tell right now, if they didn't have
46:01
Speaker 1: to talk about the gambling with the kids and protecting
46:05
Speaker 1: people and stuff. I do it every week and all
46:07
Speaker 1: my show, so I talk about stuff like that. It's
46:10
Speaker 1: just when I read this stuff, it's just it infuriates me.
46:13
Speaker 13: Though.
46:13
Speaker 1: Now you want to go after what about looking at
46:15
Speaker 1: your own state and all the sports But I'm not
46:17
Speaker 1: saying Chris, but you know they have DraftKings fans, all
46:19
Speaker 1: the big sports books are there. But yet they want
46:21
Speaker 1: to have a national campaign to go after sports books.
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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, guys about Randy and I. So
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Speaker 1: I told you about Randy and I. We you know
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Speaker 1: we're professional betters. I want to ask Randy Grand do
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Speaker 1: you have anything for I didn't know this is a
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Speaker 1: cold question here, have any futures? What do you like
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Speaker 1: in the NFL this year?
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Speaker 5: I haven't pulled a trigger. I'm still waiting for a
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Speaker 5: you know, preseason of course, I you know some of
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Speaker 5: the rsws.
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Speaker 2: I've looked at regular season wins.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I've looked at, you know, some of the
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Speaker 5: different divisions. I got kind of you know, my top
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Speaker 5: four teams in each division. And you know, I talked
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Speaker 5: to you that one about kind of like the Bears
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Speaker 5: under I haven't bet it yet, but.
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Speaker 2: That's one that we bet. That's funny.
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Speaker 1: I bet the Bears on you know, but you could
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Speaker 1: wait with the Bears because in this town everyone loves
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Speaker 1: to bet the Bears, Chicago team, even the Cubs, but
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Speaker 1: they loved so you can get some people come in
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Speaker 1: last minute to sign up for circles, sign up for
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Speaker 1: and also do the bet on the Bears to win
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I always like to have a ticket
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Speaker 1: to bring home. Well, you have no futures then for
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Speaker 1: us right now, but you're looking at the Bears under
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Speaker 1: which I actually did get the bet the Bears.
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Speaker 5: Kind of like the Vikings maybe to win the division.
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Speaker 5: That might be a little contrarian.
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Speaker 2: Yes, that's not that's actually and you know.
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Speaker 5: Detroit second and then the Packers third. But sill that goes.
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Speaker 5: But I got, you know, top four in each division there,
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Speaker 5: you know, the or the NFC West is kind of
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Speaker 5: you know with the Stafford injury. Can't really I might
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Speaker 5: be contrary against the Rams there some people like them.
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Speaker 5: San Francisco's got a very easy schedule. I could see
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Speaker 5: them bouncing back. I could see Arizona being surprise team
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Speaker 5: in that division and then Seattle on the bottom.
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Speaker 1: So I actually went over to Westgate last week and
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Speaker 1: bet Rams not to make the playoffs after the Stafford
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Speaker 1: information taking the dollars seventy I.
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Speaker 4: Think or sty can can you acknowledge in front of
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Speaker 4: all these nice people that the Broncos are going to
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Speaker 4: win the Super Bowl?
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Speaker 2: Can you do that? Can you do it? And that's
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Speaker 2: Joe Public.
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Speaker 4: Okay, we'll just clip this up super Bowl time.
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Speaker 5: I do have the Broncos finishing first.
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Speaker 1: Ah wow, Broncos really thumbs down out there, Broncos.
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Speaker 5: Some of US Charger News losing their left tackle. That's
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Speaker 5: a bad loss for them, and then trying to think
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Speaker 5: of the other team in the division. But I see
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Speaker 5: them being last. Yeah, the Raiders being the last.
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Speaker 1: There Fez anything and any future is still available, anything
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Speaker 1: that that that can gives the people.
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Speaker 2: Is that still out there? Okay? So Stafford under.
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Speaker 9: That's a kiosk bed, right, yeah, well you got.
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Speaker 2: What are you taking there?
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Speaker 1: That's yeah, great, great great?
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Speaker 5: Anybody else had any opinions out there? NFL everybody argue
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Speaker 5: your opinions, but there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, But I wanted to lastly talk about my buddy Scott.
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Speaker 1: Here is proxy service and uh, you know, as you
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Speaker 1: don't even know, I talked about you on the show
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Speaker 1: last week and I was telling like, uh that we
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Speaker 1: were in.
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Speaker 2: We do our show at Westgate.
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Speaker 1: So we're at Westgate doing the show and there was
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Speaker 1: a proxy service there, which they're very good. Yeah, they're
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Speaker 1: very But then I mentioned his proxy service. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if anyone could be as in depth focused on
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Speaker 1: not making a mistake, and I think that would be
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Speaker 1: the number one thing with a proxy service. I'd be
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Speaker 1: so afraid. And I asked those those people that were
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Speaker 1: that were running the proxy I'm forget, I'm sorry, I
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Speaker 1: forgot their name, husband and wife or not husband and wife.
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Speaker 1: They're just a guy and a girl that they run.
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Speaker 1: They owned the service, and they were saying I was like,
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Speaker 1: all these employees, you got, how do you trust him
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Speaker 1: to put all these picks in every week and they
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Speaker 1: say they don't. They put all the picks in, Scott.
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Speaker 1: Now are you putting all the picks in? Not your wife?
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Speaker 1: You're and it'll be fine if your wife are. I'm
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Speaker 1: just asking so you do because I know the way
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Speaker 1: you are focused on things. And what's the name of
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Speaker 1: the service again, VHP proxy? You're outside there my wife right?
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Speaker 2: Good?
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Speaker 1: So that's just another good, really good proxy service. I
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Speaker 1: also want to mention someone I've been around for thirty
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Speaker 1: years here, Heritage Heritage sports dot dot eu. They've been
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Speaker 1: A lot of females here.
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Speaker 2: I was just going to see that, Yeah, there's a lot.
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Speaker 4: I was going to say, have you noticed more and
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Speaker 4: more ladies in the sports book at the window, at
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Speaker 4: the counters three or three or four here and there?
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Speaker 1: And to be real blunt, it's great and you want
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Speaker 1: to start with this stuff.
50:52
Speaker 2: This is why he wears these shirts.
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Speaker 6: This guy, this guy, it's a large crack. It's a
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Speaker 2: Want, is what it is. It's okay, it's okay, but.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, we really appreciate all you coming out. Lots of
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Speaker 1: females in the audience today. Guys, there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: different things to do with bat Bash. We really appreciate
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Speaker 1: your time and your effort coming out here and staying
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Speaker 1: out here with us today.
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Speaker 2: It means a lot to me. Thank you very much.
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Speaker 5: Thanks everybody. Thanks are done.