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Pain Isn't Punishment: PEMF, Pilates, and Recovery With Kiki Cordero-Drake · Age Defiantly with Mark Young

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People don't realize that even the tiny scar, and it could be a scar for when you were two years old.
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That carries trauma, and it carries scar tissue, and you have to work on it.
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PMF is one of the words that I think people here is thrown around a lot, but no one really understands it.
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So many of us are in high stress situations, we're not grounding, we're not out in the grass, we're not, you know, barefoot in the sand.
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So this is a way to bring your body back to that electromagnetic cold with yours.
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I know you guys do a lot of like athlete recovery, so you're talking young people, young guys.
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Is it better for them? Is it better for an older person?
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I tell people that all the time.
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We are back on the age-defiantly podcast, and I am thrilled to be broadcasting here live from the Changing Life Destiny Conference in Plane of our Texas.
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And I am joined here for our first podcast today by Ms. Kiki Cordero Drake.
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Now, I'll read you a little bit of information about Kiki, because I've known her for years in love or to death.
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We share enough sessions for the TV show Friends, which is kind of weird.
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But I'm going to tell you, with this actually says, most people in the recovery and performance space treat PMF like a passive tool.
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You lie on a mat, you let the frequencies do their thing, and then you get up and go about your day.
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But Kiki actually thinks that we're leaving most of the results right there on the table and not seeking them with us.
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Kiki's a master Pilates instructor and PMF practitioner who built something nobody else had built a method that combines electromagnetic therapy with active movement in the same session at the same time.
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She's been doing this with chronic pain patients, post-surgery recovery clients, stroke patients, oncology patients, high performance athletes, and even on me.
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I actually experienced this modality myself when I came out Phoenix and spent some time with you and the good Dr. Sean.
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And I want to unpack this a little bit, because first of all, welcome.
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Thank you so much.
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I did you would say that I started talking to you.
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Oh, he was able to talk to you too.
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I used to have so much about me.
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And it's actually introduces me as a guest on a podcast at my college.
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Guys, I'm cool.
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Also, she's
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say story, say string.
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But I kind of want to unpack is how I know you for years because you've been around the health and well in this space in multiple capacities and adjacent to so many things for so long.
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So I mean, I look to you as being probably one of the more knowledgeable people in the space, which I say that and I don't say I can to your horn.
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What I would have mean in that is that there's a lot of people who are doctors and experts in their area.
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And there's a lot of people who, you know, they they run down their own little rabbit hole.
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And you know, if all I have is a hammer, everything starts looking like a nail.
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But you've been in so many different areas throughout this whole buyer hacking space that you've seen the specter.
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You've worked at multiple companies.
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You're obviously in the fitness and pilates and all this.
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But you've been around all of the modalities as opposed to some people who have been around their specific outcome.
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And I was just talking with somebody earlier today and making a comment about this natural health space in my opinion is starting to get very prescriptive and it's starting to look a lot like
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Western medicine beyond the side you and it's here's your prescription.
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And instead we just, you know, replace prescription with peptide and say, okay, well, here's your peptide.
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Don't do this.
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And it's like, okay, but you've taken away the agency of the patient.
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You've taken away the holistic approach to all of these things.
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And one of the things that I love about your Mac around is you've been around all of these things.
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You're not a I have a hammer.
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Everything's a nail kind of practitioner.
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So can you kind of give us a bit of the spectrum of all of the stuff you've been around because I know you from heavy work with with infrared companies that know and you working with microbiome labs.
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I think you've been everywhere from gut brain to infrared just sound as to to the electromagnetic frequencies.
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Like you've been all over like how why what?
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Well, yeah.
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So I started 19 years ago in Pilates.
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I became a master instructor of bloody sports therapy before that was a thing in that time.
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I have my own injuries.
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I found all the answers that I needed and that one day I got like came in my neck and my shoulders.
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I call my then chiropractor and I'm like, hey, I don't know to do.
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He's like, come share out this new machine.
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It was a PMF device and it was a manual PMF device.
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And so he worked on me for 30 minutes.
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I had full range of motion and no pain.
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And I was like, okay, this is magic.
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I want to be magician.
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So then I added that to my practice.
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And then I saw the results were so incredible by using PMF in this manner,
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which was essentially the massage that I actually closed my studio.
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And I moved to California because at the time I was one.
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I was a third practitioner that did manual PMF in the United States.
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And actually in the country and in the world with that device at least.
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And then I was doing that and a cup of it happened.
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And no, I wanted to be touched and keep over.
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Is she California?
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100%.
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So I lost 85% of my business overnight.
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I had maybe four clients that were like families that actually let me still go to their houses.
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And I had to kind of rebrand myself.
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Now before this happened back around 2018, I met Kron
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from my life at the time.
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And I was doing sessions at a booth.
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I had paleo effects when it still existed.
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And you can, you know, come on.
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See, you know his voice.
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So I don't work on his shoulders.
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I'm doing manual PMF.
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And he's like, this is weird.
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I like weird.
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And I get to start allowing him like, who is this guy?
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And why does a microbiologist have groupies?
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But anyway, he's so.
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He does.
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He does.
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So he's supposed, I literally like look at the one day and I was like,
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who are you?
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Is this?
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But he was speaking at the time.
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He was actually speaking on behalf of Jess Thrive.
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And I met Tina and Dilly through a totally different.
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I mean, they want us all.
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So it's like, you will just kind of became my friends.
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And so when COVID happened, Kron was like, hey, what are you doing now?
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I'm like, well, I'm not touching strangers.
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And he was like, well, what your background is like marketing,
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you know, I used to do all that.
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I worked to read you and advertising.
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He's like, why don't we create a job for you?
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Because you know all of these people already as your friends.
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How about you become an affiliate manager?
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So thus, you put me through the East Fifth Avenue affiliate program
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with Amber.
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And I did all that.
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And then I was still doing PMF at the booths for microbiome labs.
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And so that just caught my hands literally on people that we
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needed to know, which kind of just made this huge bullet
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ex of friends, peers, and you name it, right?
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And then when he was a company, I was a company.
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And that's how I started working for other companies and for
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rent companies, rent like companies.
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But it's because there's not just one tool.
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Has we knows him?
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And like you were saying, it's like now, it's like, I believe in
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the whole route.
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I, you know, supplementation, but that's also not necessarily
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right for everybody.
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Well, and that's that's actually where I'm going with that.
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Is it I know for instance, you and your husband, right?
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Want to click in Scottsdale right now and the modalities
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that are there, not every modality is for every one.
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And not every modality fixes everything.
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And even the best modality in the world doesn't work for
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every person.
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And I mean, it's a plug-in plate.
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And I always say it's like as Rubik's Q that you have to
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figure out all the right terms to get to the solution.
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But what I find interesting about your career or that
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respect is I always say people fail forward.
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And it's like, and it's not that you failed at anything.
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It's, but we did trial and error to say yes and figure
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it out.
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Let us you got into this key EMF world.
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And in a perfect world, you would have continued that
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journey.
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COVID came and interrupted that journey.
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Yes.
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Which forced you into other types of modalities and other
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positions that you weren't looking for that that came in
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which opened the huge world of opportunities for you.
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You became familiar with all of these things.
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You met people that you never should have met.
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You made relationships with powerful people in the
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industry that still are friends only to end up back and
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feel bad.
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And I love that because it's like the surplus complete.
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It was almost like, you know, bad took you on this detour
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for five, six years.
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And it was just like, hey, no, like this is great.
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We're going to get back to this.
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Go do this stuff first.
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And now you're back to doing key EMF.
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But you're doing it with a different perspective because
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I would arguably say that before and correctly, if I'm
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wrong here, PMF was your solution.
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Like that was what you believed was going to do
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everything.
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I went back.
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That's why I tell people they have a scene.
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My big guy.
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Just put the wind next to it.
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I just put the PM up on it.
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Absolutely.
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And but now you've got this whole perspective.
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And now PMF, while you're huge advocate, PMF everyone
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ties that.
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But you use advocate of PMF.
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But it's part of the the region.
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And now it is one of the arrows in the quiver.
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It's not the nuclear bomb.
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Like it is, it's one of the things that I should help people.
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And I think to me, that perspective is actually more
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in court than anything.
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So explain PMF because people, then I'll give you an example.
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My, my mom was actually going, was having bad pain.
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And we sent her over to the biohackle lab.
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So we're off 17.
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She's right.
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And for water down.
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And my dad is like, do you think PMF will help her?
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I'm like, probably.
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Like she's having pained issues.
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And it's like, and she did it.
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And she's like, oh, I don't know.
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It just made me feel weird.
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And I just like, it was kind of weird to her.
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But it was, what is this, what is this doing to me?
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And she was like, super, I don't like this.
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But then after a day or two, she went back and did it again
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because something shifted.
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And then she did it again.
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And it's funny because they recently bought a home
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in Fort Lauderdale and are spending a lot of time down there,
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which I love.
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But what's funny is that she never leaks,
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because she doesn't know the area well enough.
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And even though she's got a self-driving car,
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she doesn't like venturing out to places.
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She doesn't, but she will go to the biohack, perhaps,
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to do PMF.
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Like she doesn't even know what it does.
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But something's happening there.
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So I explain this to people who don't even know what P in it.
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Like get it to us dummies.
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So PMF pulse electromagnetic field
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or pulse electromagnetic frequency.
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There are two different types.
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Field is more so like the map that your mom lays
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on an Agile system.
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And it's creating a field around the body.
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So it's cellular exercise.
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It helps a cellular and a regeneration.
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It helps increase circulation, takes out inflammation
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and helps increase bone density.
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It helps we anxiety and depression
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and helps with your nervous system.
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Right.
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And that's when the people get on in.
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The high dial systems tend to almost be jarring
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because you get this like, and it's like moving your body.
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And I find especially women or people
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that are in high stress situations
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or high anxiety, it's high pay.
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They may not love that at birth.
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But that's your nervous system being tested
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to give you what you actually need, right?
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Because we like to do things
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that we feel comfortable doing.
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That may not be the most comfortable.
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But what it's going to do is reset you.
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So you have that kind.
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You have your low dial system,
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which a lot of people that was like a beaver mat.
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Higher Joe has low dials.
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You know, there's a couple of companies
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out there that have more Fordham systems.
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You're not going to feel those.
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But over time, you do feel the results, right?
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Now, if you've gone from a high dial system
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to a low dial system,
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so people think that it's not working
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because they don't feel the pulsing, right?
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So that's where, oh, there's a disconnect there
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when it comes to your consumer, basically.
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And then we have what our device is,
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what EQ Foxway, we actually have both.
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We have high dials.
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We also have, well, I don't want to say low dials.
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We have high dials.
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And then we have just a lower frequency system,
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which allows for assessment, treatment,
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self treatment, and you've been to exercise with it.
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So like, for instance, the froze, what I worked on you it.
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That one is an AC current.
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So it's not a DC current, like most PU devices.
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And action creates an oscillating plane system
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within within the device.
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That is more therapeutic for your body.
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The first and foremost is to regulate your nervous system
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so your body feels safe while it's getting treated.
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We had two sides to it.
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The other manual side, which you experienced,
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which I can use the infrared one, which has graphite,
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which acts as a magnet to the cells.
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So it actually shows you where your body is overacted,
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or where it's underactive,
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and it adds you balance out the system,
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depending on what we're setting.
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But then I can also attach it to myself.
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And then I can use it, has a pond do it.
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Yeah, so, so, so PEMF, I want to, don't stop there
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because like, oh, yes, like, jump you out.
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No, you're good, you're good.
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But the PEMF itself, like people understand this pulse electric,
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make electromagnetic frequency or feel,
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it's, what is it doing, example?
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I know you said cellular exercise,
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and I've never heard it explain that way before.
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So to people who are like, oh, P enough, it's good, it's bad,
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it's whatever, like, what are you,
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what are you literally happening at a physiological level?
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The other body is car, car battery, right?
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Yep.
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We have to recharge our car battery.
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That's the way to do our body.
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We have what a great example.
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And that is cells, actually, in most people,
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I would argue say, and that's why we have so many neurological dysfunction,
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things going on.
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So we were energies of premium.
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And this whole idea of mitochondrial charging
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because mitochondria is the energy centers of cell,
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PEMF does actually help jump-starting the cells
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that aren't working properly.
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The cells that actually have an energy crisis
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are getting re-energized by doing PEMF.
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I have this talking of mitochondrial support.
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I think increases your ATP levels
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and helps your overall just circulation of load flow, right?
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And obviously, so-
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That's where your ATP is literally secondary energy.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So the biggest thing that I want to hammer out here
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is that one of the things that I believe that IP,
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and to me anyways, is a pretty pervasive protocol
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that can be used on just about anybody,
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is that what anybody is in some kind of crisis,
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they're usually as a cellular energy ensure.
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And some of that is nutritional.
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Some of it's environmental.
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Some of it's injury-related, emotional.
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That trauma response, like all of this stuff is related.
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And literally PEMF is just jump-starting the cells.
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And it's doing, I hate to say this,
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it's doing nothing to heal a problem.
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It is empowering the body to get back to normal
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and let the body do what the body already knows how to do.
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Exactly, it's literally getting your body exactly
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what it means to reset itself,
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what recharge, and recover.
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It's handing the power back to your body's inner dinteles.
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And that's what I love about.
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And maybe it's literally, it's not that the PEMF
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takes the pain away.
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No, the PEMF is just getting your cells to go,
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oh, wait, we canned it this pain.
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We just didn't realize it admitted to go
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because we've been struggling to even turn the lights on.
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The sigils turn off.
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And this is just turning the sigils back on
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and you'll be back up the pathways
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that have just become a little more doored.
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We're just suppworking the way that they need to.
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So many of us are in high stress situations.
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We're not crowding.
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We're not out in the grass.
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We're not barefoot in the sand.
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So this is a way to bring your body back to that.
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Electromagnetic pull to the earth.
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Yes, and then what I love about PEMF
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in that respect is it's like, you're jump starting to body.
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I like anything that is not additive.
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And PEMF is not added to body.
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PEMF is literally just putting the body back on track.
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You're literally just saying, okay,
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you kind of went ship, but let's get you back on track.
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Let's get your body doing what it's innate
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and intelligence already knows how to dare.
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Now from there, you started talking about manual PEMF
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and all this else.
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Now when I was out and I still dreaded
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and I actually cold plunge.
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Yeah, I was done being else, NASA.
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Hey, so I'm very clear.
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So I had to run out and part of what I say here is like
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I actually saw you guys in conference back in October.
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So we were hanging out and Sean Drake, your husband
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and made a comment to you all like a life of dude,
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your nervous system is rack, rack, and like, who are you telling you?
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And he's like, you've got to come off and spend some time.
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I was actually surprised that PEMF
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was such a big part of the couple of days
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that I spent in your client because your PEMF was like,
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oh, go do this.
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Now we're going to PEMF.
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Now don't do this.
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No PEMF.
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And I was like, I'm feel like I'm just coming out here
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and sitting on PEMF mechs the whole time
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or sitting with my lap or whatever, but amazing.
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And part of that is that reset.
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But the last thing I was there on day three,
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you worked on me and it was something I'd never experienced before.
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And you talk about manual PEMF
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and it made the way that I can best explain
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to someone who doesn't know what that means
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is it was like getting a massage by a robot.
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But in a, in a weird way because like you, you've got a great massage touch.
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But as you know, like I was locked up.
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My shoulders and my hips were like barely movable.
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And you did massage, but in such a weird way
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because you were connected, you personally were connected to the machine,
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which meant the electricity was actually was using you as a conduit.
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And while you were giving me a massage,
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I was getting electrical shocks through your hands,
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which is like the weirdest experience because it was like,
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you ever like when we were kids and you like shuffle your feet on the carpet
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so you can shock everybody.
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You wait, he's like that for an hour.
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It wasn't this uncomfortable shock,
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but you felt the energy like you felt that through your hands.
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Like it was, it was such an unusual sensation though
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because it was, yes, it was a therapist's hands.
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And it being that that's massage in many ways.
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And it was massage and it was very flexibility focused.
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Almost like I love time, such factories and like that hurt,
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like held the entire time.
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But afterwards I feeling as limber as imaginable.
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But what you did was actually doing that and at the same time
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using that electricity and frequency and it gets funny
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because you actually ground yourself to the machine.
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So literally you're not feeling it per se,
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but it's all going through to the end user being me at the time.
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How is that really to PMF?
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Cause I'll be honest, like after you did that that day,
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like unfortunately I got in a heart broke the boss angel.
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So that's probably that properly and do me a favors.
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But the reality is is that I could move like,
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and I always had some kind of status.
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I think I mean, did you ever sleep?
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But the, the movement that they think I had shoulder injuries,
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my hip had it had an injury as you recall.
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And it was like I was able to move and bend in flats.
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Like I was like ready for a younger class by the time we were done.
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And I went, oh my gosh, like this is crazy talk.
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And I have you do it once before,
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but it was only like on my get controllers when we were at a conference.
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But doing it like full body was insane.
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What happens?
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Talk to me about that because you've recently joined a company called EQ Flux
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where you are, your intention is taking this out of this microcosm space
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and expanding this protocol worldwide.
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And I love that ambition.
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But EQ Flux is the name of the machine that you're using specifically.
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I'm pack all the tips.
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No, Kassaki, Q Flux way with the company as a whole and the pro is what I used on you.
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But we have a couple devices, not actually.
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And it's targeted theory.
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I mean, like you said, when you're laying on a map that's passive,
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yes, it's amazing for your cells and your energy and you're able to get all the things.
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However, when you can actually get to the area and go target in and be really precise,
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your body tells me has a practitioner what it means.
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And it may not even be what you feel, right?
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So the only time I feel a frequency going back in my hands is when there's,
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I say a watch pathway.
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Some people get scared by the word block, but it's really it's like one out of cells,
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literally just become kind of dormant.
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So it can push into my fingertips or sometimes if you're really blocked,
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it will make my alarm jump, which I believe you experience.
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When I'm laying your hips, I'm like, oh, look, this is, this is showing me.
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Yeah, because the energy is coming into my body, but my body's not accepting it.
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It's almost like reflux into you literally push full of energy.
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So I kind of take that on for a little bit and then I just work on the area.
20:53
Sometimes I add a movement, which allows the pathways to open a lot faster.
20:57
But that's why you're getting the release because we're just like any key.
21:00
I'll say you need activation or movement because that is the medicine.
21:05
But with the frequency, it allows you to push through that so much faster.
21:09
So that's why you get those incredible results instantly.
21:12
So I'm going to ask you to make a comparison because I'm sure there isn't one
21:16
and you're going to look at me like I'm just an amateur.
21:19
PEMF, obviously you're talking pulse, electromagnetic fuel frequency.
21:25
I've recently, in the past few months, I was gifted a vision body suit.
21:30
Which is EMS, which is different, but similar in, in so much as, and I call it my wall
21:38
risk costume.
21:40
There you go.
21:40
And then I put on my wall risk costume.
21:42
And I've had hungry and, and Kristen on the podcast before we talked about it.
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I didn't own a suit at the time.
21:49
So I probably will have them on again with this conference because they're here.
21:54
And I had seen them in a minute.
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But I went down to their studio in Miami and they gifted me one of these suits.
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They were like, we want you to use this.
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And I'm like, Oh, okay.
22:03
And now this thing kicks my, you can blink out, but it kicks my ass.
22:09
Like I will wear this thing for 20, 25 minutes while on an exercise bike or, or on a treadmill
22:16
or something and like at high engine, dripping and sweat by the time I'm done.
22:21
And but what it happens is it's funny because I'm exhausted by the end.
22:24
And I tell people like, well, what is it?
22:26
They're like, well, it's like wearing 28 tens units that are all turned up to the exact same time.
22:31
And I'm like, so it's kind of like feeling like, you know, you I'm walking through a light socket.
22:37
That it charts on every 30 seconds.
22:40
It's honestly when they get our workouts.
22:41
Yeah.
22:42
No, you're, it's amazing.
22:43
I put this thing on in it.
22:45
I had you brought it with me.
22:46
Maybe we should do bring yours.
22:47
Really don't carry that.
22:49
No, I brought it with me and it's tricky.
22:51
It's like the series there.
22:51
That's like told me you've been bogged out and then you're rubber suit.
22:56
Maybe I wouldn't like rubber suit under my tits either.
23:01
But they have to be all embarrassed.
23:03
Many had worked the gender bar with it.
23:06
But I wear my EMS suit and it's that electrical shock through your body.
23:11
And it's funny because like if I'm blocked off, if you will,
23:16
I can tell where, where I'm damaged in the day.
23:19
Like I actually remember like I was my shoulder was acting up.
23:22
And I'm wearing this suit during a workout and I turned up,
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you know, you can actually adjust each of the areas percentage.
23:30
And I turned up the shoulder only to like 20%
23:34
and literally my shoulder came out of socket.
23:37
And I was like, oh, oh, oh, oh,
23:38
I probably should turn down turned down.
23:40
I don't know, not a bad way because the muscle,
23:43
this can try to contrast it so much.
23:45
And it's through my shoulder out as like, oh my gosh, like that's crazy.
23:49
And I mean, literally like there are,
23:51
there are days that like I'll use it and like my quads.
23:55
I can, I'm like limping now in the street afterwards because it's such a workup.
23:59
But here's what I find interesting about that.
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And that's total diversion.
24:03
But what I find interesting is that EMS suit
24:08
and what you did have a very similar feeling to me.
24:12
And part of it is because the the electrical simulation
24:16
in the muscles in, in the joints in, I mean, you're getting into big events.
24:20
You're getting the attendants that you're getting several workout.
24:22
He's not necessarily doing.
24:24
So there are areas of my body,
24:27
not just major muscle works that I will feel that I want.
24:31
I mean, I can do six hip classes in a row.
24:35
And but most of those hip workouts are using major muscle roots.
24:38
They're not using minor muscles.
24:40
The EMS suit is like getting me in areas that that I've never
24:45
experienced, pain it.
24:47
Like sometimes it's like, what's going on here?
24:50
Yours held super similar.
24:52
Like it almost felt like a workout when you were done.
24:55
I mean, like we said, it's slayer exercise, right?
24:57
It's just a totally different kind of current.
24:59
So we have AC current, which is DC current.
25:03
With the PMF, it's, you know, we have our side to car EMS size,
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what we call it, even though it's PMF.
25:10
And that's literally because we use it more so for exercise.
25:13
So we have three different settings on there.
25:15
We have our restore, which is more so for chronic pain on the flexibility.
25:19
And there is muscle activation there.
25:21
But if you really want to turn something on, that's not turning on.
25:23
We go to stimulate mode.
25:25
Stimulate is for really turning on those deep muscles,
25:29
like those transverse intonial muscles are getting in deep to those areas.
25:32
That like you said, it's getting down to the limits and different tissues and
25:35
different. So it's getting different muscles at one more return on because
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when we work out of the gym, more cases and now we're working with superficial
25:42
muscles. And that's just it.
25:45
You also know what people see.
25:47
Boy, yeah.
25:49
I read some people like I've never seen that guy like on the beach.
25:51
That has like a barrel belly, but he has a six pet.
25:53
But he's not actually working those deep muscles.
25:55
Like he's definitely going to blow out his back.
25:57
You know, like that's the guy that's going to blow out of that.
25:59
But because someone see the six back, they're like, oh, that's great.
26:01
No, what you want to see is type and arm and secure.
26:05
So you want stabilization in that area.
26:07
That's what this allows you to do.
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It just allows you to get deeper, but because it's also PMF versus DC.
26:13
It's number one regulator, your nervous system.
26:16
So I always tell people how many of us are like, dude, I'm so stressed out.
26:19
I need to work out.
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I need to blow this off.
26:22
Well, more times adopt for there to blow off whatever we're trying to forget
26:26
in the moment and not necessarily focusing on our body.
26:30
So form my body, where it is, screen connection.
26:34
This will allow you to do those things.
26:36
So you're working on the nervous system, you're regulating and you're letting
26:38
your body feel safe and then you're turning on the muscles that you need to turn
26:41
on, but you're also relaxing the ones that are going to work.
26:43
So like your shoulder, for instance, with my device, you wouldn't necessarily
26:48
feel your shoulder right away because it is used to wake it back up,
26:52
unless it's above a worked area.
26:54
So it literally tells me which ones overworked, which ones underworked and I
26:57
can balance out those two at the same time versus just one frequency going in.
27:00
I can change it up.
27:01
So I have one on stimulate and one on restore.
27:04
So it just allows me to kind of like play around with them and mix a match
27:10
and get you the ultimate results that you need.
27:13
So let me ask you.
27:14
So with EMS, it's not about EMS specifically, but the correlations,
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I think are kind of fun because PMF for a, I mean,
27:25
sort of podcast is called age to find.
27:27
I think it's like a lot of our audience is a 50 year old 50 plus audience.
27:31
Not everybody, but there is an older audience that watches our broadcast
27:34
because you get to a certain age and one things don't work the way they used
27:40
to and we all kind of experience that at different times of life.
27:42
But the second thing that I think happens in that, in that window is mortality
27:48
and debilitation start to become conversations that they never used to be.
27:54
So this idea of, but I want increased mobility and I want to age to find
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it. I want to have a wife that's mobile.
28:02
That's fun.
28:03
That's that's fulfilling even as my numbers wrote up.
28:08
Um, do you find that this is particularly helpful or impactful
28:14
for some audiences more than others?
28:16
Is this like, is PMF better for?
28:18
I know you guys do a lot of like athlete recovery.
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So you're talking young, young people, young guys.
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Um, is it better for them?
28:27
Is it better for an older person?
28:30
Kids for what ducks down everybody is a little bigger for everybody.
28:36
Like, yeah, I do, like, especially when I'm working with my clients
28:39
other for with the, um, being a hash the PMF.
28:42
I'm working on right now, anywhere from 12 years old to 65.
28:48
And obviously for different reasons, you know, my 12 year old is an inch in
28:51
this to have a couple of injuries for management of this.
28:54
What is totally normal?
28:55
So I'm trying to calm down what's overstimulated in her body because you,
28:59
you know, overworked, overdeveloped certain musters of her,
29:01
others, which creates compensation patterns.
29:03
So I'm putting her for safe in her body again.
29:05
Whereas like, I have two women that come to me twice a week that are
29:08
both in their mint to light 15s.
29:11
Um, both thought that you had hip surgeries for totally different reasons.
29:16
One had received, um, injections in her hip and her back.
29:21
They wanted to, they were literally looking up surgery.
29:24
And I was like, can you just like let me work on your first?
29:27
And so what we were able to do is we found scars.
29:30
She had so many abdominal scars.
29:32
Well, so I'm able to reach on the nurse that area,
29:35
breakthrough the scar tissue with the frequency with the device and then
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connect her to the machine.
29:40
So she's able to work twice as hard.
29:42
But it now allows her like hips to feel safe.
29:44
And now allows for abdomen to work the way that it needs to because she
29:47
had all less scar tissue.
29:48
So now because that's getting stronger, she hadn't do a lot of back issues.
29:52
And every day, she's like, man, how would I go this long without doing this?
29:56
So the two of them together are just like, they're like, what will be your,
29:59
what will be your models?
30:00
Like whatever you want.
30:01
And we're like, we didn't even know this is possible.
30:02
Like we thought we were doing it searchers literally about a year ago.
30:05
And I'm like, well, let me ask you a question.
30:06
I had a friend called me recently and she called and said, I'm having a
30:10
diamond glass these soon.
30:11
She said, what do you wrap them up?
30:13
Like, what, what do I do?
30:14
What is my healing protocol?
30:15
What is my everything?
30:16
I'm so excited.
30:17
But what do I do?
30:19
And I'm like, oh, the way you call it right now, right?
30:21
And I'm like, well, you need to do this, this, this, this.
30:23
And then I'm writing to like, I want you to pounce a BPC 157 and TV 500 for
30:27
at least a week or two prior going to surgery.
30:29
I want you to lose us.
30:30
She's having a down request.
30:31
I mean, lose as much rage as you can before you go in.
30:36
I want you on entirely full, you know, keto friend.
30:40
They got it.
30:40
So that your, your inflammation is down as much as possible before you go in
30:44
because I will actually again, help recovery.
30:47
Like I want you on hyperbaric oxygen as soon as you're our surgery for at
30:51
least two weeks.
30:52
I like, and I'm running through this stuff.
30:54
And by the way, this room curious.
30:56
And like, and for the area that's affected, like you're going to think
30:59
this is really weird.
31:00
But I actually want you to be doing micro meddling on the scar area
31:06
while applying skincare contains GHKCE peptide on that scar area.
31:11
You mentioned something about scar tissue in the abdominal area, which
31:16
may be, at least I can go, well, that's interesting because
31:19
technically, that electrical currency would break up scar tissue also.
31:24
But this actually helped before scar tissue should be before.
31:28
Yeah, it does.
31:29
Because that area is, you know, lymphatic wise.
31:33
I mean, I was talking to her about do everything you can.
31:35
Like, you know, you've got to be doing, you know, brushing and
31:38
everything else.
31:38
Geesh of lipatic system is never going to work the same again.
31:41
Yeah.
31:41
Like all this other kind of stuff.
31:43
But I didn't actually think of be enough.
31:47
Um, and now it's going to go on her list.
31:49
You know, she can spend more money on recover it.
31:51
And she is a surgery.
31:52
Um, but she could have counted this.
31:54
Exactly.
31:55
And it might.
31:56
So if you were to go like, so PMF for surgical areas, you would
32:01
actually recommend doing it because I say that the trauma that
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experience during that incision at any of the cutaway, um, that,
32:09
that trauma actually is the cell shut down.
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Yeah.
32:13
Well, you want to pre post.
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Yeah.
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I want to charge that is much.
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Exactly.
32:17
So that way it doesn't take such a hit after she's been under anesthesia.
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You know, I'm sure we're going to get her.
32:23
I'm in bad.
32:23
It's all the things.
32:24
So you want to like charge the body.
32:25
So it doesn't.
32:26
So it doesn't have a such a hard time as coming back and do the recovery.
32:30
Um, and that, I mean, obviously she's taking advantage of everything.
32:32
That's all going to help.
32:33
But this is getting deeper to those cells, right?
32:36
Yeah.
32:36
And then post the PMF is going to help with cellular regeneration for
32:41
also nerve regeneration.
32:43
So as that heals faster, it has a less than a chance for that scar tissue to
32:46
really build and cream or issues in the future because people don't realize
32:49
like even the tiny scar and it could be a scar for when you were two years old.
32:53
Curious.
32:54
Not carries trauma and a carry scar tissue and you have to work on it.
32:59
So I always like that with the fro.
33:01
For instance, I always use the wand on them because of the infrared.
33:05
So anyone that's had any had abdominal surgery, I go to them on the
33:08
can alpha set up right nice and low calming resets the area helps them get
33:11
out of that crying pain, puts them in a safe place, resets the nervous system,
33:14
gup grains on tap.
33:16
Then after let's say four to five sessions when their body feels safe,
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I'm going to then put it on gamma.
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And now we're going to strengthen those muscles again.
33:26
And we're going to get them working the way that they need to.
33:27
So your body knows how to turn itself back on.
33:29
See your core because we know your core is your powerhouse, right?
33:32
So that all turns back on to you.
33:34
So I say PMF is the missing leak there for.
33:38
Yeah.
33:39
And for your fatty tree postup.
33:41
Yeah.
33:41
No, that's a great, you great suggestion.
33:43
And they didn't really think about it until you mentioned a scar tissue about the
33:46
women and their hips.
33:48
Oh, what do you sections?
33:49
Sips on why?
33:50
Legic care.
33:53
This I know seriously the C sections.
33:54
That's one of the most missed diagnosed.
33:59
Contrifications or injuries that I've seen on women specifically.
34:02
I as like SI like sciatica paid, but they're like, well,
34:05
I'm seeing a car practice for me.
34:06
I'm getting massage once a week.
34:07
I've been doing this for the last six months.
34:08
Well, clearly that's not working.
34:10
So what I've found is then I asked them, have you had any of the almost
34:13
reviews or a C section?
34:15
He had a 10 women.
34:17
Say yes.
34:17
Say yes.
34:18
Well, and C sections are such a common practice nowadays.
34:21
And it's like, and I hate pat to me.
34:23
I asked to do this is this is probably full disclosure.
34:26
I accidentally took an anthropology class and under right.
34:30
It's true story like I registered for PR class.
34:33
It wasn't that didn't get in like all the old 30 minutes before registration
34:37
post and I got off credit hours and that semester and I ended up registering
34:41
for the only class that was still opened and it was an anthropology class.
34:46
Took the class went to the bookstore brush to the brush to the class that night.
34:49
I was there was two weeks into the class before I actually registered
34:52
register left long story.
34:54
Anyways, I was cross posted as a women study class and I didn't go this and I ended
34:58
up becoming the only man in this entire class and the entire literally the course
35:02
title with narratives and childbirth.
35:05
I went the bot.
35:09
You loved you.
35:10
Well, is that you really find it because there was this, you know,
35:13
brumful of women, most of them middle aged and I became their son in this
35:18
rule that they wanted to make sure that I understood it and I was very
35:21
Western medicine minded back then as I think we all were 20 years old.
35:26
And it was like hearing the damage though that C sections do.
35:32
Like I had no idea that it's like, so 30 years later, I'm like, no,
35:38
like I would never, never want my life to go through a C section all possible
35:43
to avoid a man understanders cases.
35:45
But they now at Gilly, we just passed the out.
35:47
So the delivery is easier and it fits into the doctor's schedule there.
35:52
Like the doctor doesn't want to work weekend.
35:54
So let's just go get the baby on or Friday because I don't plan vacation.
35:59
I had a private literary schedule out because she did not want to miss a vacation.
36:02
Right.
36:03
And it's like, it's the convenience of knowing when the baby is coming,
36:06
which kind of gets rid of like the, oh my gosh, I'm the neighbor kind of fun
36:09
that, you know, so many people have thanked it.
36:12
Like it says like, yeah, it's a shipy as price.
36:15
But but literally like these C sections and the C sections are even more
36:20
invasive than the abdominal plastics because with an abdominal plastic
36:23
and they're not going to muscle like C such as we're going right here to muscle
36:28
enforcing a muscle heal also.
36:30
And it's like, and I don't think to to your point about cellular trauma.
36:35
How often most let it think of that?
36:37
They don't.
36:37
And they do forget about the connection.
36:39
It's a cosmetic changes that they're worried about.
36:41
It the internal connection and in literally like I always say,
36:45
but when you cut through the lymphatic system, that doesn't grow back.
36:49
Like the lymphatic system is forever damaged.
36:51
That the nervous system can or the most part reconnect over most people
36:55
still experience numbness in those areas.
36:58
The muscle can heal likely not as much as before depending on what
37:03
she's doing to actually, you know, work out and regroup that muscle.
37:06
But the lymphatic system is the one that bothers me the most because I'm
37:09
like, you don't regrow that.
37:12
And now you don't drain toxins the way you used to, which means that area
37:17
becomes almost like a dumpster with no evacuation.
37:22
I'm really out.
37:24
It's it's and again, going back to the device.
37:27
This helps train the lymphatic system helps to reconnect areas that have been
37:31
disconnected literally helps get deeper into our fascists who are working
37:35
those muscles that you can't normally get literally connects the brain,
37:38
the body together.
37:39
So you can reconnect that on a physical level much as the emotional level to
37:42
feel what you need to feel.
37:44
And let's not like forget, like if you, depending on the surgeon,
37:48
then you have maybe not be doing the work that you need down there.
37:51
So they might be doing the C section, but I can't even tell you how many of
37:53
them in that I worked on were they end up having like an extra like
37:58
having like a blayer of skin or a little like bump or lump or whenever
38:02
you're like, I don't understand why you saw me up this way.
38:04
So then they have to go back and they get you know, a mommy makeover.
38:07
And now you've been cut twice assuming you haven't already had two C sections.
38:12
So you just keep on like layers, you know, we're from a hundred percent and
38:17
this can help break through all that reset it, reconnect it, regulate the area,
38:22
make you feel safe again in that area, but also help drain the area.
38:25
Well, in scar tissue, I mean, we don't think about it that way,
38:28
but scar tissue is actually a protective layer.
38:30
I mean, that's the body recognizing there's been damage and it almost like
38:34
coons the area and tell people that all the time.
38:37
It's actually one of the things like when people come in, they'll be like,
38:40
I'm a mess. I'm like, no, you're not a mess.
38:42
You're limited and that's something that I got from a husband.
38:44
I will say that I'll go and credit to that statement.
38:46
But when people like, oh, I have more knots than anybody like you do,
38:50
but you have to also stop faulting your knots for knots are there because
38:53
they try to protect you from something.
38:54
So whether it be a past injury, whether it was a car accident, whether it's
38:57
stress, whether any kind of trauma that you have taken on,
39:01
your body tried to create a protective layer.
39:03
It created a shield to make you tougher in that area.
39:06
So rather than faulting your body, thank your body and tell of his
39:08
hydroleco and then from there works through that.
39:11
That's it.
39:11
Say the about pain.
39:12
Like, you know, you think about a disease like leprosy as a sample.
39:15
Like people are like, they don't know exactly what leprosy is,
39:18
but it's a little with the inability to feel pain in areas.
39:21
And with lepers end up with injuries because they didn't get a pain
39:25
response to notice stop.
39:26
When I put my hand out enough and I don't remove it because I don't
39:29
feel pain, but pain is a is a protective response.
39:33
Pain is not a punishment.
39:35
And in all areas, like if you experience pain, it's because
39:39
your body is trying to protect itself.
39:42
And as you're saying, it compensates.
39:44
And usually what we call injuries are just over compensation.
39:47
I never said, I mean, that's a thing.
39:49
And then you just continue to go to compensate that.
39:51
The chiropractor that I go to in Boca, we're telling that you could
39:54
have a car project.
39:55
Sorry.
39:55
You got a little bit of can you?
39:57
Yeah.
39:58
TV chiro in Boca, like we didn't connect my shoulder with so
40:02
stiff one day.
40:03
And it's like, and he got does all the warmups and all that
40:06
everything else before you go in to make you more flexible.
40:09
And then he immediately comes in and I'm like, well, my biggest
40:11
presenting injury today is that my shoulder's really tired.
40:14
It came to my neck and they, and it's funny because it's on
40:16
that right side.
40:18
He immediately went to my left yet and started working cross
40:21
by powder.
40:21
It was crossbody pattern, right?
40:23
And it and I kind of, you know, I kind of laughed at first.
40:27
It's okay.
40:27
I do what he was doing.
40:28
And I'm like, well, you know, it problems up here.
40:31
And he starts, you know, he laughs because he knows I know
40:34
what he's talking about.
40:35
And he's just like, yep, that's why I'm down here because
40:38
it is it's that this hurts because this is actually the
40:42
injury and what feels bad up here is nothing more than a
40:45
compensation for, you know, a tight hip or something else
40:50
down there.
40:50
It's, we do it all over the place and we call it injuries.
40:54
If we call it pains.
40:55
Like, and usually gets a no, just too much is on one side
40:58
of the scale.
40:58
And we need to balance the scare back out really.
41:00
If you can't remove the injury, then you just counter
41:03
balance it more weight on this side to fix that.
41:06
Kiki, I fascinated talking about this stuff.
41:09
I love the, I love PMF anyways.
41:12
I love what you do.
41:13
I'd experienced it more than once now.
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So I absolutely would recommend it.
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I know people would be interested in hearing about this.
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Where would people get in contact with you to learn more
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about EQ Flux also about you and your practice and your
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next nurse.
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They can find me on Instagram at PMF Pilates.
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Our website, eqfluxlave.com or even our Instagram.
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I literally get a jaw at it.
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That's a good answer for your thoughts.
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You know that.
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Yeah, it's been so good to sit down and talk to you about
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this stuff without, you know, laying on a bed being
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tangled up.
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See, I, I mean, it's like I'm not getting electricity
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this time, but if you brought the machine, I hate to
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say, that's amazing.
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Yes.
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Oh, but no, it's been amazing sitting talking to you.
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PMF is one of the words that I think people here have thrown
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around a lot, but no one really understands it.
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So my gratitude to Kiki Cordero draped for expanding on this
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topic and explaining what PMF is.
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And literally as we talk about on here a lot, it's, it's
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not magic.
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It's literally helping restore cellular energy so that your body is
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able to tap into the innate intelligence that it already has.
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Your body is wired for survival.
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All we have to do in so many cases, get out of the way.
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It's not about a prescription.
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It's not about a surgery.
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It's not about anything else literally about putting the
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energy back in your body so that your body is able to do what
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it does.
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Like jumping that car battery so that the car is able to start
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on its own without having to put jumper cables on every
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time we want to move the car.
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Kiki, again, thank you so much.
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If you're interested in learning more about Kiki and what she's
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doing with EQ Flux Wave, check out all the notes down in the
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show notes here and we'll put all the links in there for you.
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I encourage you to check this out.
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I don't talk about anything that I don't first understand and
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refer and I wouldn't have you on here if I didn't know what
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you were doing was legit.
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Check it out, especially for those of us that are 50 plus
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I'm going to say she says it's for everybody but I'm going to
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say especially for those that are experiencing any kind of
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chronic pain or any kind of interest in regenerating that
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cell-hybrid energy.
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So check us out next time on Aged Finally, I'm your host
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Dr. Mark Yum and we'll see you then.