Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / The USVI And Their Motion To Exclude JP Morgan's Expert Witnesses (Part 4) (10/31/26)
Transcript
- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 0:04Speaker 1: In this episode, we're getting right back to the USVI's
- 0:07Speaker 1: attempt to bar expert testimony. See, Mr. Fonseca's opinions about
- 0:13Speaker 1: what federal law enforcement would have done are not based
- 0:16Speaker 1: on sufficient facts. To the extent that Mr. Fonseca relies
- 0:20Speaker 1: upon his experience as a trafficking investigator not just to
- 0:24Speaker 1: qualify himself as an expert, but also as a foundation
- 0:27Speaker 1: for his opinions... This experience provides insufficient support for these opinions. Specifically, Mr.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Fonseca provides opinions about redacted that law enforcement never sought
- 0:38Speaker 1: additional records from JPMC indicates consistent with my experience investigating
- 0:43Speaker 1: sex trafficking cases that law enforcement did not view these
- 0:46Speaker 1: records as material evidence. Mr. Fonseca, however, expressly disavowed having
- 0:51Speaker 1: prior knowledge not only of what SARS and CTRs were
- 0:55Speaker 1: or what information they provided, but also of how any
- 0:59Speaker 1: investigator other than himself conducted trafficking investigations. When counsel for
- 1:04Speaker 1: the government questioned him about possible uses of SARS or
- 1:08Speaker 1: other financial information in trafficking investigations, Mr. Fonseca's answers made
- 1:13Speaker 1: clear that he was speaking and could speak only for himself.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Question How about with a large sex trafficking operation? Do
- 1:21Speaker 1: you think financial information would be useful in a large
- 1:24Speaker 1: sex trafficking operation? Answer. If we follow the approach that
- 1:28Speaker 1: we use to investigate sex trafficking cases, I would think not. Question.
- 1:33Speaker 1: When you say the approach that we use, you're speaking
- 1:35Speaker 1: from your experience, correct? Answer. Yes. Using our approach to
- 1:40Speaker 1: interviewing our victims, and as the case develops, starting to...
- 1:43Speaker 1: He gets interrupted. Question. you understand that there are other
- 1:46Speaker 1: FBI agents who may have used a different approach in
- 1:49Speaker 1: investigating sex trafficking operations. Is that fair? Answer. I have
- 1:53Speaker 1: no idea. Question. And sitting here today, you don't know
- 1:58Speaker 1: whether or not other agents in other field offices had
- 2:01Speaker 1: successes in their investigations utilizing suspicious activity reports. Is that fair? Answer.
- 2:07Speaker 1: I would not have much an idea on that. And
- 2:10Speaker 1: I say not much because I didn't interact every day
- 2:13Speaker 1: with other offices, so that would be fair. Indeed, even
- 2:16Speaker 1: when questioned about federal prosecutors' use of financial records in
- 2:20Speaker 1: obtaining the conviction of Ghislaine Maxwell as one of Epstein's co-conspirators, Mr.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Fonseca retreated to his own investigations as a limit to
- 2:29Speaker 1: the scope of his knowledge. Question, well, I'll give you
- 2:32Speaker 1: an example here. The Maxwell case, they used the records
- 2:35Speaker 1: to show that she was a co-conspirator, didn't they? Answer, again,
- 2:39Speaker 1: they used the records, yes. not being part of that trial,
- 2:42Speaker 1: I don't know what ended up proving, but they did
- 2:44Speaker 1: use the records. Having disavowed knowledge of whether or how
- 2:49Speaker 1: trafficking investigators other than himself may have used SARS, Mr.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Fonseca lacks sufficient facts or data upon which to opine
- 2:57Speaker 1: on redacted. Expert testimony should be excluded if it's speculative
- 3:02Speaker 1: or conjectural, since the facts that Mr. Fonseca relies upon
- 3:06Speaker 1: are those of his own investigations and no others, He
- 3:09Speaker 1: lacks sufficient facts or data on which to opine unredacted,
- 3:13Speaker 1: of which he had no understanding as an investigator in
- 3:17Speaker 1: any event. For this additional reason, Mr. Fonseca's expert opinions
- 3:21Speaker 1: should be excluded. 3. The court should exclude Carlin Irwin's
- 3:25Speaker 1: opinions related to economic development commission benefits. J.P. Morgan offers
- 3:31Speaker 1: Carlin Irwin a professional expert witness to, among other things,
- 3:35Speaker 1: analyze and evaluate the tax incentives awarded by the EDC
- 3:39Speaker 1: and to assess the work done by IDC-EDC in connection
- 3:43Speaker 1: with evaluating, extending benefits to, and monitoring of Mr. Epstein's companies.
- 3:49Speaker 1: Her opinions related to tax benefits awarded to Epstein's companies
- 3:52Speaker 1: are irrelevant for the reasons described in the government summary
- 3:55Speaker 1: judgment briefing. But even if they were relevant, Ms. Irwin
- 3:59Speaker 1: is utterly unqualified to give them because, by her own admission,
- 4:03Speaker 1: she is not an expert in the EDC personnel's jobs,
- 4:06Speaker 1: she has no prior experience evaluating these or similar tax benefits,
- 4:10Speaker 1: and she's not familiar with these types of tax benefits
- 4:13Speaker 1: prior to assembling her opinion about this case. Ms. Irwin
- 4:17Speaker 1: is an economist, but her opinions stray well into inadmissible
- 4:21Speaker 1: territory in order to do counsel's bidding, criticizing the EDC's
- 4:26Speaker 1: procedures and decisions. To the extent she performed any analysis,
- 4:30Speaker 1: she refused to characterize it as my own independent analysis,
- 4:34Speaker 1: but rather was merely replicating the EDC's own calculations of
- 4:39Speaker 1: its cost-benefit ratios. Her report consists nearly entirely of reciting
- 4:44Speaker 1: the cost-benefit ratios and then criticizing the EDC for its
- 4:47Speaker 1: actions or inactions. Where, as here an expert purports to
- 4:52Speaker 1: offer opinions beyond the scope of her expertise, court strike
- 4:55Speaker 1: the extraneous testimony as the admission of an expert does
- 4:59Speaker 1: not provide that individual with carte blanche to opine on
- 5:03Speaker 1: every issue in the case. While the court need not
- 5:06Speaker 1: exclude the entirety of Ms. Irwin's opinions, it should restrict
- 5:10Speaker 1: her testimony solely to economic matters for which she may
- 5:13Speaker 1: be qualified. To the extent testimony regarding EDC benefits is
- 5:17Speaker 1: relevant and it is not, the court should not permit Ms.
- 5:21Speaker 1: Irwin to offer opinions regarding the adequacy of EDC procedures
- 5:25Speaker 1: or conduct. A. Ms. Irwin's EDC-related opinions are irrelevant. The
- 5:32Speaker 1: parties have extensively briefed the relevance of evidence related to
- 5:36Speaker 1: the tax benefits rewarded Epstein's companies, and the government does
- 5:40Speaker 1: not seek to repeat that argument unnecessarily. The decision whether
- 5:44Speaker 1: to collect taxes from third parties constitutes a protected policy
- 5:47Speaker 1: choice as to whether and as to whom to take
- 5:51Speaker 1: enforcement action. This sort of enforcement falls in the heartland
- 5:54Speaker 1: of a state's broad discretion in the area of law
- 5:57Speaker 1: enforcement decision-making. and these defenses are never cognizable as a
- 6:01Speaker 1: matter of laws as to any claim. Notably, Ms. Irwin
- 6:05Speaker 1: acknowledged in her deposition that the EDC applies discretion in
- 6:09Speaker 1: her recommendations to either approve or deny tax incentives, and
- 6:13Speaker 1: the Commission does exercise judgment in making its decisions. As
- 6:18Speaker 1: pertains to expert testimony, the threshold question for the court
- 6:21Speaker 1: is whether the proffered testimony is relevant. Irrelevant testimony offered
- 6:26Speaker 1: by an expert fails the helpfulness prong of the Daubert
- 6:29Speaker 1: prong and is therefore inadmissible. Because J.P. Morgan's affirmative defenses
- 6:34Speaker 1: challenging the government's conduct are not cognizable, the proffered expert
- 6:38Speaker 1: opinions related to that conduct are irrelevant and should be excluded. B. Ms.
- 6:44Speaker 1: Irwin lacks sufficient qualifications to opine regarding EDC procedures. As
- 6:49Speaker 1: argued above, when an expert is no longer applying her
- 6:52Speaker 1: extensive experience and reliable methodology, Daubert teaches that the testimony
- 6:57Speaker 1: should be excluded. That is precisely the case here. Ms.
- 7:01Speaker 1: Irwin has a master's degree in accounting and finance and
- 7:04Speaker 1: more than 25 years of litigation consulting and expert witness experience,
- 7:09Speaker 1: but she has no experience with territorial tax benefits or
- 7:13Speaker 1: the inner workings and procedures of governmental agencies. She summed
- 7:17Speaker 1: it up best during her deposition, freely conceding that, with
- 7:20Speaker 1: respect to the EDC, I'm not an expert in their jobs.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Prior to beginning work on this case, Ms. Irwin admitted
- 7:28Speaker 1: she was not familiar with the tax benefits that are
- 7:31Speaker 1: addressed in her report. None of her prior expert work
- 7:34Speaker 1: involved tax benefits awarded by the Virgin Islands or by
- 7:37Speaker 1: any other U.S. territory, which differ from state tax benefits
- 7:41Speaker 1: because they are federally authorized and, unlike state tax benefits,
- 7:45Speaker 1: are memorialized in a contractual certificate that obliges the beneficiary
- 7:50Speaker 1: to make certain contributions to the territory and satisfy certain
- 7:54Speaker 1: conditions of employment of territorial residents. She has never been
- 7:58Speaker 1: an employee of any governmental entity or agency. She's never
- 8:02Speaker 1: worked for a tax authority, nor has she ever performed
- 8:05Speaker 1: litigation consulting or work for such an authority. Indeed, during
- 8:09Speaker 1: her deposition, Ms. Irwin acknowledged that she was not relying
- 8:13Speaker 1: on her own experience or anyone else's experience in forming
- 8:16Speaker 1: her opinions. Yet despite having no relevant work or professional experience, Ms.
- 8:20Speaker 1: Irwin opines that the EDC ignored Financial Trust and Southern
- 8:24Speaker 1: Trust's consistently unfavorable cost-benefit analysis and failed to ask questions
- 8:29Speaker 1: or to gather information. She criticizes the EDC for failing
- 8:33Speaker 1: to conduct compliance reviews and and she criticizes the EDC
- 8:37Speaker 1: for failing to follow up with Southern Trust to test
- 8:40Speaker 1: whether or not it was a legitimate company. None of
- 8:43Speaker 1: these opinions are admissible. Ms. Irwin's credentials as an economist
- 8:48Speaker 1: do not grant her license to opine regarding the propriety
- 8:51Speaker 1: of a government agency's procedure or decision-making, nor do they
- 8:55Speaker 1: authorize her to contend that the EDC board members should
- 8:58Speaker 1: have asked different questions at public hearings. She identifies no
- 9:02Speaker 1: methodology in her report that she used to arrive at
- 9:05Speaker 1: these conclusions. Indeed, to the extent Ms. Irwin performed any
- 9:09Speaker 1: computational analysis, aside from reviewing documents in the record, it
- 9:13Speaker 1: was limited to recalculating the EDC's cost-benefit rations. And, she confirmed,
- 9:19Speaker 1: I wouldn't characterize it as my own independent analysis. While
- 9:23Speaker 1: an expert must of course rely on facts or data
- 9:26Speaker 1: in formulating an expert opinion, an expert cannot be presented
- 9:29Speaker 1: to the jury solely for the purpose of constructing a
- 9:32Speaker 1: factual narrative based on record evidence. That is precisely what J.P.
- 9:38Speaker 1: Morgan seeks to do here. Ms. Irwin's economic analysis was
- 9:41Speaker 1: limited to recalculating the EDC's cost-benefit ratios based upon the
- 9:46Speaker 1: data contained in the EDC's spreadsheets. She is not offering
- 9:50Speaker 1: any opinion as to whether those formulas are on an
- 9:53Speaker 1: appropriate measure of the economic benefit derived from the tax incentives. Ms.
- 9:58Speaker 1: Irwin's opinions concerning what actions the EDC should have taken
- 10:02Speaker 1: based upon those ratios, which in and of themselves represent
- 10:07Speaker 1: an oversimplification of the EDC decision-making process, which recognizes economic
- 10:12Speaker 1: benefits beyond job creation. are outside her area of expertise
- 10:17Speaker 1: and they should be excluded. C. Ms. Irwin should not
- 10:20Speaker 1: be permitted to testify regarding a potential improper motive. Compounding
- 10:25Speaker 1: the errors reflected above, J.P. Morgan relies on Ms. Irwin
- 10:28Speaker 1: to opine that ADC's conduct is consistent with the possibility
- 10:33Speaker 1: of that these benefits were granted as part of an
- 10:36Speaker 1: improper quid pro quo exchange between Mr. Epstein and the
- 10:39Speaker 1: USVI officials. Not only is Ms. Irwin unqualified to offer
- 10:43Speaker 1: this opinion for the reasons set forth above, but this
- 10:46Speaker 1: opinion represents rank speculation regarding motive that no expert is
- 10:51Speaker 1: qualified to give. Experts may not offer opinions regarding the
- 10:55Speaker 1: intent or motive of parties as part of their analysis.
- 10:58Speaker 1: As a general rule, inferences about the intent or motive
- 11:01Speaker 1: of parties or others lie outside of the bounds of
- 11:04Speaker 1: expert testimony. At least one court in this district has
- 11:08Speaker 1: characterized an expert speculating as to a party's motive as
- 11:11Speaker 1: improperly assuming the role of advocates because such testimony lacks
- 11:15Speaker 1: basis and any relevant body of knowledge or expertise and
- 11:20Speaker 1: would be inadmissible if offered by a lay witness. As
- 11:24Speaker 1: another court explained, whatever expertise an expert may possess, no
- 11:27Speaker 1: expert may supplant the role of counsel in making arguments
- 11:30Speaker 1: at trial and the role of the jury in interpreting
- 11:33Speaker 1: the evidence. Ostensibly aware of this precedent, J.P. Morgan seeks
- 11:38Speaker 1: to protect Ms. Irwin's opinion by having her confirm that
- 11:41Speaker 1: she is not actually opining as to the existence of
- 11:45Speaker 1: an improper quid pro quo. She merely claims that such
- 11:48Speaker 1: an arrangement was possible and concedes that she doesn't know
- 11:51Speaker 1: the universe of potential factors that could have affected the
- 11:55Speaker 1: EDC's decision to Although Ms. Irwin references payments that benefited
- 12:00Speaker 1: politicians as one such factor, she doesn't know whether those
- 12:03Speaker 1: payments actually affected any EDC decision. Indeed, even though Ms.
- 12:08Speaker 1: Irwin is a certified fraud examiner, she offers this opinion
- 12:12Speaker 1: when she didn't conduct a fraud investigation because this would
- 12:15Speaker 1: require access, open access to underlying financial records, that she
- 12:20Speaker 1: claimed she did not have in this case. None of
- 12:23Speaker 1: this speculation is admissible. Highland Cat Management 379 F.SUPP 2D
- 12:29Speaker 1: at 469. Inferences about the intent or motive of parties
- 12:33Speaker 1: or others lie outside the bounds of expert testimony. Ms.
- 12:37Speaker 1: Irwin may not avoid the well-established bar precluding experts from
- 12:41Speaker 1: testifying as to the motives of parties by couching her
- 12:44Speaker 1: opinions as identifying a possibility. If any expert testimony is
- 12:48Speaker 1: permitted concerning EDC decisions, it should not seek to attribute
- 12:53Speaker 1: or suggest motives for the EDC's conduct. To the extent
- 12:57Speaker 1: the EDC's motives are relevant, which they are not, the
- 13:00Speaker 1: subject matter constitutes lay matter that the fact finder can
- 13:03Speaker 1: understand without the assistance of experts. Conclusion. For all the
- 13:08Speaker 1: reasons set forth above, the court should exclude the expert
- 13:11Speaker 1: opinions of Kimberly Melman Orozco, Joseph Fonseca, and Carlin Irwin.
- 13:18Speaker 1: This document was signed by David Ackerman and it was
- 13:21Speaker 1: dated August 18th of 2023. All right, folks, that's going
- 13:25Speaker 1: to do it not only for this episode, but the
- 13:27Speaker 1: document as a whole. All of the information that goes
- 13:30Speaker 1: with this episode can be found in the description box.