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- 0:02Speaker 1: God.
- 0:06Speaker 2: You tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
- 0:09Speaker 2: Chevrolet Studio of ESPN seven hundred and ninety two one AFM.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Sean O'Connell Show on ESPN seven hundred and ninety two
- 0:25Speaker 1: one a FM. It's a Wednesday. We welcome Sammy Moore
- 0:30Speaker 1: Utah Insider. Wow the second time in like eight days.
- 0:35Speaker 3: Sammy, Welcome back to the show. How are you.
- 0:37Speaker 4: I'm good?
- 0:39Speaker 3: What a great pleasure to have you on again.
- 0:42Speaker 1: Saw you up at the press conference because you're one
- 0:44Speaker 1: of the hard working folks who are close to all
- 0:47Speaker 1: things Utah. For Morgan scally to sit down, unscripted give
- 0:52Speaker 1: us fifteen minutes of very heartfelt, off the cuff comments.
- 0:56Speaker 1: What was the thing that that stuck out most for you?
- 0:59Speaker 1: Or you walked away from that press conference and could
- 1:02Speaker 1: stop thinking.
- 1:03Speaker 4: About I think just with the way that Morgan approached everything,
- 1:08Speaker 4: I know, like he even said, like the reason why
- 1:11Speaker 4: he didn't have a pre written speech is because of
- 1:13Speaker 4: everything that's been going on, you know, building an entire
- 1:17Speaker 4: coaching stuff out in what for five four or five
- 1:20Speaker 4: days for him, he put in work in the transfer
- 1:23Speaker 4: portal that morning there were three commitments that came down
- 1:26Speaker 4: roster attention. You know, I think the I think the
- 1:29Speaker 4: biggest thing for me is I think, you know, Utah
- 1:31Speaker 4: fans should be happy and should be excited to have
- 1:35Speaker 4: someone who has dreamed about this his entire life to
- 1:38Speaker 4: be the head coach at Utah to finally be in
- 1:41Speaker 4: that role. I mean, you know, the way the passion
- 1:43Speaker 4: that he spoke about, you know, his daze growing up
- 1:45Speaker 4: at Rice Stadium, and the way that he talks about
- 1:49Speaker 4: you know, working with Urban, playing, working with Kyle, playing
- 1:53Speaker 4: under all of them, all those types of things, Like,
- 1:55Speaker 4: I think that's the big thing for me. And I
- 1:57Speaker 4: even said on on U zone dot Com, I said
- 1:59Speaker 4: that there was so many things that Morgan that I
- 2:02Speaker 4: could have written about from that press conference, but the
- 2:05Speaker 4: three that stood out to me the most were physicality, innovation,
- 2:08Speaker 4: and family. I think that's the three things that I
- 2:10Speaker 4: came away with, plus the iconic quote of I'm a baby,
- 2:14Speaker 4: but our team's gonna rip your face off, or however
- 2:17Speaker 4: he phrased it. Like, I think that there was just
- 2:19Speaker 4: so much that you could take for Morgan's press conference.
- 2:21Speaker 4: I feel like there was something for almost every single
- 2:23Speaker 4: Utah fan in that presser.
- 2:26Speaker 1: So we're gonna We've decided we're gonna give Wit the
- 2:29Speaker 1: Voldemort treatment on this show after today because we talk
- 2:32Speaker 1: about him too much and he gone, so we just
- 2:34Speaker 1: need to let him be gone. But I think part
- 2:37Speaker 1: of the reason why that felt so interesting was how
- 2:41Speaker 1: different it was from when Kyle Whittingham sat down in
- 2:45Speaker 1: front of a microphone and talked like Morgan. It was
- 2:49Speaker 1: I mean, he kept going, he would volunteer information that
- 2:53Speaker 1: nobody asked for, and I know that that won't stay
- 2:55Speaker 1: forever as he's the head coach, but he was completely
- 3:00Speaker 1: unfiltered and unguarded in that situation. And unfortunately, that communication
- 3:04Speaker 1: style was the trademark of Kyle Whittingham. He wasn't going
- 3:07Speaker 1: to give you anything more than you absolutely ripped out
- 3:09Speaker 1: of him. So is that part of the reason why
- 3:12Speaker 1: it felt like such a breath of fresh air in
- 3:14Speaker 1: your mind?
- 3:15Speaker 4: Well, I think that's exactly it, because again I even
- 3:18Speaker 4: said on our message board, I said that there was
- 3:21Speaker 4: just so much that I could write from and it
- 3:24Speaker 4: was a delightful change, is how I phrased it. Because
- 3:26Speaker 4: it's like sometimes with Kyle's presser, I would be you know,
- 3:31Speaker 4: trying to scrape together four hundred words on what I
- 3:33Speaker 4: could what I could say about it, But with Morgan,
- 3:36Speaker 4: I wrote eight hundred words no problem talking about this
- 3:39Speaker 4: press conference, and I like, like you said, like things
- 3:41Speaker 4: can change and stuff, but I think that, you know,
- 3:44Speaker 4: it really does show that there's there's a new there's
- 3:47Speaker 4: a new command on the hill and there's a new
- 3:50Speaker 4: commander in chief. Is how I'm going to put it.
- 3:52Speaker 4: And you know, I think that things are going to
- 3:54Speaker 4: be different. It's going to be interesting to see how
- 3:56Speaker 4: things happened. I did. I did get a little smile
- 3:58Speaker 4: and chuckle out of Bill Riley at the end, saying, Okay, Morgan,
- 4:01Speaker 4: open up Spring practices. We'd love to see you, because
- 4:03Speaker 4: I think that's something else that like a lot of
- 4:05Speaker 4: fans have been asking and I think that, you know,
- 4:07Speaker 4: it's going to be interesting to see how things go.
- 4:09Speaker 4: But you know, it was really it was. It did
- 4:11Speaker 4: feel like a breath of fresh air. And I left
- 4:14Speaker 4: feeling like I was going to run through a wall
- 4:16Speaker 4: for Morgan. And I have never put on a pair
- 4:19Speaker 4: of pads in my life, and I have no intention
- 4:21Speaker 4: to because I am five to two.
- 4:22Speaker 1: So hey, you know what, there there's there's a spot
- 4:26Speaker 1: for everyone. You could kick I'm sure, uh, Sam.
- 4:30Speaker 4: I played solocker. I can punt a football. I've punted
- 4:33Speaker 4: stuff like that.
- 4:33Speaker 1: That's something I can't do. So you're you're ahead of
- 4:36Speaker 1: the game, all right. So trying to get into more
- 4:40Speaker 1: of the details of, you know, besides just the overall
- 4:43Speaker 1: sentiment and the feeling which he won everybody in that
- 4:47Speaker 1: room over, even if they were all there to support him,
- 4:50Speaker 1: any anyone who is kind of like on the fence
- 4:53Speaker 1: no longer can be after you know, his h his statements,
- 4:57Speaker 1: But then open it up to questions and people were
- 5:00Speaker 1: I think some of the right things about like well,
- 5:02Speaker 1: what about these transfer portal situations, and what about the
- 5:05Speaker 1: actual ex'es and o's what about your team identity? Did
- 5:10Speaker 1: anything stand out for you there? You already said the innovation,
- 5:13Speaker 1: What do you think that really looks like?
- 5:16Speaker 4: Well, I think that, you know, the thing that stood
- 5:19Speaker 4: out was you know, I know there was a lot
- 5:20Speaker 4: of concern and question about Kevin mcgiven when he got
- 5:24Speaker 4: hired on what was it, Saturday? I know there were
- 5:27Speaker 4: people like, well, he's from Utah State, Like what the heck,
- 5:30Speaker 4: why are we doing this like this isn't a home
- 5:32Speaker 4: run higher all these things, but Morgan saying, like, if
- 5:35Speaker 4: you actually watch the film, like and if you actually
- 5:38Speaker 4: understand football, you'll see that what Kevin does is very
- 5:42Speaker 4: very innovative and it's very hard for defenses to scheme against.
- 5:45Speaker 4: And the thing is is I think that I know
- 5:48Speaker 4: this is like a sweeping statement, but like the fact
- 5:50Speaker 4: that Morgan also said that he had a hand in
- 5:51Speaker 4: Jason beck Hire and confirm that, I think is also
- 5:54Speaker 4: really really important because it shows that like Morgan knows
- 5:58Speaker 4: as a former defensive course, Morgan knows what is hard
- 6:02Speaker 4: to scheme against for an offense, Like like he sitting
- 6:07Speaker 4: in the practice in like the in the coach's room,
- 6:09Speaker 4: he watches Jason's bets offense and you see all the
- 6:11Speaker 4: motions and you see everything that's moving. You don't know
- 6:14Speaker 4: what you need to focus on defending because of how
- 6:16Speaker 4: complicated it is. And I think that him saying that
- 6:18Speaker 4: mcgiven's kind of the same way, I think should be
- 6:21Speaker 4: very encouraging for Utah fans. And I think that was
- 6:24Speaker 4: it was really great to hear more than just his
- 6:26Speaker 4: statement that we had in his presser, is in his
- 6:28Speaker 4: press release about it that we actually heard him say
- 6:31Speaker 4: about how innovative mcgiven is and how different his offense is,
- 6:36Speaker 4: but how similar it's going to be to what we
- 6:38Speaker 4: saw last year.
- 6:39Speaker 1: Another interesting thing for me, and I think Morgan alluded
- 6:42Speaker 1: to this, but players that were in attendance and some
- 6:44Speaker 1: of the other people that were around there was a
- 6:48Speaker 1: conversation about how involved everyone stayed through this transition. How
- 6:53Speaker 1: you know, Morgan's not the type of guy that needs
- 6:56Speaker 1: to ask permission for anything, but how many folks he
- 7:01Speaker 1: bent their ear and he asked what they thought about
- 7:04Speaker 1: this particular thing. You know, like players included, Hey what
- 7:09Speaker 1: do you think of this guy? Hey what do you
- 7:10Speaker 1: think of running this type of system? Hey do you
- 7:13Speaker 1: want somebody who's like back? Do you want somebody who's
- 7:16Speaker 1: totally different? It just I don't know how much you
- 7:20Speaker 1: can continue to put that into practice when you're in
- 7:23Speaker 1: charge of every decision. But the fact that he's crowdsourcing
- 7:26Speaker 1: some of those important things, even in such a hectic time,
- 7:29Speaker 1: I thought was really interesting.
- 7:32Speaker 4: Well, also, I think that this I've heard a lot
- 7:35Speaker 4: that Morgan is going to be a player's coach, and
- 7:38Speaker 4: I think that, you know, bouncing things off of everybody
- 7:42Speaker 4: like we heard yesterday. I think that that's proving that
- 7:45Speaker 4: he is a player's coach, you know, in today's world
- 7:48Speaker 4: of college football and how things can change on a
- 7:50Speaker 4: dime with the Portland stuff like that, I think you
- 7:52Speaker 4: need to have a coach who is willing to, you know,
- 7:56Speaker 4: hear feedback from his players. I know, I know that's
- 7:59Speaker 4: probably not a pop their opinion, but I think it's
- 8:01Speaker 4: important to a certain extent, you know. And so I
- 8:03Speaker 4: think that having you know, he talks about dev, he
- 8:07Speaker 4: talked about Bird, he talked about JJ, he talked about Wayshawn,
- 8:09Speaker 4: he talks about Bray like you talked about all of
- 8:11Speaker 4: these key pieces on the offense. I think that that's,
- 8:13Speaker 4: you know, important because at the end of the day,
- 8:17Speaker 4: what is a signal caller if they don't have players
- 8:19Speaker 4: that can fill the roles that they need, and it's
- 8:22Speaker 4: Utah has those players. And so I think that that
- 8:24Speaker 4: was a big thing, is that it's I think it's
- 8:26Speaker 4: further insinuating that Morgan is a player's coach, and I
- 8:28Speaker 4: think that there's going to be a whole different vibe
- 8:30Speaker 4: on the hill.
- 8:31Speaker 2: Now.
- 8:31Speaker 4: I'm mixed. I think it's safe to say the amount
- 8:34Speaker 4: of former players and former coaches and former everything that
- 8:37Speaker 4: was at that press conference tomorrow or yesterday. I think
- 8:40Speaker 4: there's going to be a lot more people on the
- 8:42Speaker 4: Hill that we might not have seen in the last
- 8:45Speaker 4: few years. So I think that's also something that needs
- 8:47Speaker 4: to be acknowledged that Morgan's going to bring, like he's
- 8:50Speaker 4: reinvigorating that family culture of once a ute, always a ute.
- 8:57Speaker 1: The fact that Morgan mentioned Devin Damn Pier and Bird
- 9:01Speaker 1: Fickland by name in his introductory press conference could be
- 9:05Speaker 1: seen a lot of different ways. Is there anything that
- 9:08Speaker 1: you read into that.
- 9:11Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard. Like the thing is is like
- 9:15Speaker 4: we've all heard certain things about both of them, and
- 9:18Speaker 4: I think that he's you know, planning to have I mean,
- 9:21Speaker 4: Bird already signed his deal, and I know with the
- 9:23Speaker 4: whole demon Williams saying, now people are like, see, kids
- 9:26Speaker 4: can get out of their contracts and stuff. But like,
- 9:29Speaker 4: you know, Bird's doing a meet and greet on Saturday.
- 9:33Speaker 4: I don't see him doing a meet and greet and
- 9:35Speaker 4: then like meeting a bunch of Utah fans and helping
- 9:37Speaker 4: build that Utah culture and then immediately going into the
- 9:39Speaker 4: portal Devin, you know, he's been a little bit quiet,
- 9:43Speaker 4: but I know that, you know, Morgan said postgame, I
- 9:45Speaker 4: think it was with Bill that Devin has been dealing
- 9:48Speaker 4: with a groin injury, like it's probably recovering from that
- 9:50Speaker 4: and stuff. So there's a lot of things. There's a
- 9:51Speaker 4: lot of reasons why we haven't heard from guys, But
- 9:54Speaker 4: at the end of the day, I'm not I'm not
- 9:56Speaker 4: putting too much stock into anything right now in terms
- 9:59Speaker 4: of of guys leaving and stuff, because my thing is,
- 10:03Speaker 4: if they really weren't happy with the hires that were
- 10:05Speaker 4: in place, why didn't they hit the portal this second
- 10:07Speaker 4: that the hires were announced, or.
- 10:10Speaker 1: Even before if they saw writing on the wall. I mean,
- 10:13Speaker 1: a lot of people were making their intentions known before
- 10:15Speaker 1: the transfer portal was immediately open. And I'm with you,
- 10:19Speaker 1: and I suggested that on the show yesterday, like, hey,
- 10:22Speaker 1: I mean all of this uncertainty that we think that
- 10:27Speaker 1: you're dealing with with new coaches, somewhat unproven coaches in
- 10:30Speaker 1: certain spots that the people most affected by that, the
- 10:34Speaker 1: players seem their actions make it look like they're pretty
- 10:38Speaker 1: confident it's all going to work out well.
- 10:41Speaker 4: Yeah, And like literally, as we're having this conversation with
- 10:44Speaker 4: Sean Parker just announced on his Instagram that he resigned
- 10:46Speaker 4: with UTAH. So there's one thing that's been one looming
- 10:50Speaker 4: decision that has been checked off the checklist for Morgan.
- 10:54Speaker 4: And you know, getting way back is massive. You know,
- 10:57Speaker 4: he's twelve yards away from a thousand yard season. Him
- 11:01Speaker 4: and Atuaya are so close, and that's important. That's an
- 11:05Speaker 4: important relationship that doesn't get talked about enough. And so
- 11:07Speaker 4: you know, locking and running back one, you know, that
- 11:10Speaker 4: kind of means that you know, more dominoes should be
- 11:12Speaker 4: falling soon. But it's going to be really interesting and
- 11:16Speaker 4: I'm excited. I'm excited to see how things are going
- 11:18Speaker 4: to transfer out, are not transfer out, but translate in
- 11:20Speaker 4: the next couple of days. Plus you know, Utah's already
- 11:23Speaker 4: doing work in the portal. So I think that you
- 11:25Speaker 4: know Morgan has is it's going to be another thing
- 11:27Speaker 4: of reloading, of reloading, not rebuilding. I think that's the
- 11:30Speaker 4: big thing that I have been telling our subs on
- 11:33Speaker 4: Ute Zone. It's it's it's a reload, not a rebuild.
- 11:36Speaker 4: And and that's what it looks like, you know, and
- 11:39Speaker 4: that's always what U Tug's been so we'll see how
- 11:41Speaker 4: things shake out.
- 11:42Speaker 3: You alluded to.
- 11:43Speaker 1: This the guys what it was three commitments from the
- 11:45Speaker 1: transfer portal yesterday. The Wyoming de tackle really like what
- 11:50Speaker 1: I've seen from him. You got a guy from North Texas.
- 11:54Speaker 1: Who are you most intrigued by? From the three new
- 11:57Speaker 1: editions out of the portal yesterday.
- 12:01Speaker 4: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna get Oh see, it's me
- 12:04Speaker 4: and my clop out answers. I'm gonna go with both
- 12:06Speaker 4: Ethan Day, the defensive end from North Texas and Lucas Lamsula,
- 12:09Speaker 4: the defensive tackle from Wyoming. Day really broke out last
- 12:14Speaker 4: year from North Texas and we all know North Texas
- 12:17Speaker 4: was you know, right in those conversations for playoffs, he
- 12:20Speaker 4: broke out. He looks to be a replacement for someone
- 12:23Speaker 4: like Gahd or even so, someone who can push guys
- 12:26Speaker 4: like lamsfoltzklaw On Cash Dylan to hit that next that
- 12:30Speaker 4: next level of their game. So I'm excited for him.
- 12:33Speaker 4: And then Sam Sula also, we've we've been missing big
- 12:37Speaker 4: bodies in that defensive tackle room. He's six four, three
- 12:39Speaker 4: oh six. That's another that's a big space eater. He
- 12:42Speaker 4: didn't have a lot of stats this year at Wyoming,
- 12:45Speaker 4: but if you go back and watch the Utah and
- 12:47Speaker 4: Wyoming game last year, like he has a very, very
- 12:50Speaker 4: very high motor, and I think that that's what this
- 12:53Speaker 4: defensive tackle the room needed. You needed someone who was
- 12:56Speaker 4: gonna eat up space, and you needed somebody who was
- 12:58Speaker 4: going to have that high motor on the on the tackle,
- 13:00Speaker 4: kind of kind of like a leaky. A Leaky had
- 13:02Speaker 4: that high motor and he also was eating up space
- 13:04Speaker 4: and he was eating up blocks. So it's gonna I
- 13:07Speaker 4: think those two are really great. Wimberley obviously, Marcus Wimberley,
- 13:10Speaker 4: the Oklahoma transfer. He's a true freshman or rettro freshman,
- 13:13Speaker 4: so he has a couple of years to to, you know,
- 13:15Speaker 4: settle into things. But pro Morgan Scalley recruited him out
- 13:18Speaker 4: of high school for a reason. He's a hard hitting safety.
- 13:20Speaker 4: He's very much cut from that cloth of you know,
- 13:26Speaker 4: scaley safety's hard hitting knows for the ball, sound tackler,
- 13:31Speaker 4: those types of things. But you know, it's gonna be interesting,
- 13:33Speaker 4: it's gonna be exciting. I think that there's there's a
- 13:36Speaker 4: lot more movement that's gonna happen in the portal that's
- 13:39Speaker 4: gonna go Utah's way, and I think fans are going
- 13:41Speaker 4: to be excited with some of the additions that could
- 13:43Speaker 4: possibly come to Salt Lake.
- 13:45Speaker 1: Will we get to watch more of practice now that
- 13:47Speaker 1: Morgan Scalley is the head coach.
- 13:50Speaker 4: I hope so oh see, I really really really hope.
- 13:54Speaker 4: So I miss the days of watching practice to be fair.
- 13:59Speaker 4: When I first started cover Utah, I was twenty nineteen
- 14:01Speaker 4: and I was a student up at the U, so
- 14:02Speaker 4: there still wasn't a lot of access. But you know,
- 14:07Speaker 4: I'm born and raised here. I've went to many a
- 14:10Speaker 4: fair share of Utah practices when I was little back
- 14:13Speaker 4: in you know, the Jordan winn Era. I remember going
- 14:16Speaker 4: to practice on Saturdays, going to scrimmages during spring. So
- 14:19Speaker 4: it's like there's a lot of good in it. And like,
- 14:22Speaker 4: even if you want to turn it into a you know,
- 14:25Speaker 4: nil rev share type thing, charge fans five bucks that
- 14:29Speaker 4: come watch a scrimmage, there are so many football ciccos
- 14:31Speaker 4: out here in Utah that would spend the five dollars
- 14:34Speaker 4: to go watch the scrimmage on a random Saturday in April.
- 14:37Speaker 1: I have been saying the same thing for years. You
- 14:40Speaker 1: want to limit your access, but maximize your revenue. Fine,
- 14:43Speaker 1: put up a paywall and let people watch practice.
- 14:47Speaker 3: Like you're not giving away any secrets. You're not. I'm sorry.
- 14:51Speaker 1: The every NFL practice is open to the public, their
- 14:54Speaker 1: whole training camp. You can go watch. You're not gonna
- 14:57Speaker 1: give away any secrets. There are no secrets in the business.
- 15:00Speaker 1: They're watching your film.
- 15:01Speaker 3: Okay.
- 15:01Speaker 1: Anyway, I think we do get more access. I'm keeping
- 15:04Speaker 1: my fingers crossed for it. I will be seeing you around,
- 15:07Speaker 1: I will be seeing you soon. We'll be calling you
- 15:09Speaker 1: again after the transfer portal closes and we have a
- 15:12Speaker 1: real picture what the roster looks like heading into spring.
- 15:14Speaker 4: All right, all right, thanks Lucie.
- 15:17Speaker 3: Sammi Mora managing editor over at you Zone.
- 15:20Speaker 1: She's great at the job, as are most of the
- 15:23Speaker 1: folks on that Utah beat.
- 15:24Speaker 2: Saw.
- 15:24Speaker 3: I'm up there at the presser yesterday