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The MEN of M2M: Dr. Eugene Harris and Cecil Whitmore · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Now, yes, we do messy Mondays with Doctor Hemny.
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  Speaker 2: I go to quad hows that you know, we have.
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  Speaker 2: But today I'm here with the two men, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 2: who are the force multipliers of the show. I am
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  Speaker 2: talking about doctor Eugene.
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  Speaker 1: And see some appreciate you.
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  Speaker 3: Give me something, You give me something.
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  Speaker 4: I know I ain't from Detroit, but I lived there
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  Speaker 4: about three years.
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  Speaker 1: You did you know?
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  Speaker 3: You didn't know that that's where they met.
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  Speaker 1: You just have a court Toya.
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  Speaker 5: That I didn't go there to court Toya, but I was.
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  Speaker 5: That's where we met.
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  Speaker 1: I was.
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  Speaker 5: I was a chief resident of Detroit receiving.
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  Speaker 1: How did you meet Toya in the first place? So
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  Speaker 1: funny story.
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  Speaker 5: Uh So, basically, when I was on my ICU rotation,
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  Speaker 5: I met a nurse. It was kind of flirty. I
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  Speaker 5: knew she had a boyfriend. But I thought she was cute,
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  Speaker 5: but I was not really talking to were talking to her,
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  Speaker 5: but she invited me to go out to this event.
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  Speaker 5: At the event, they were doing speed dating on the
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  Speaker 5: other side of the restaurant. So we're at the bar,
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  Speaker 5: we're sitting there. It's the nurse.
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  Speaker 1: I showed up with Toya. The nurse had a boyfriend. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: we were cool.
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  Speaker 3: You I was want to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: But we did. We did. We did a fold speed
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  Speaker 1: dating at our table.
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  Speaker 5: When I speed dated with the other girl that was there,
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  Speaker 5: I was actually a jerk.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, like, how many baby daddies you got?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know the girl had several baby daddies. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know. It was a joke.
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  Speaker 5: But when I speed dated with Toya, I actually liked her.
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  Speaker 5: So later on when we left, I told the nurse
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  Speaker 5: that I was there with.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I like your girl. I like Toya.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, you gotta hook that up Toy Toya,
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  Speaker 5: and this nurse told Toya he ain't got enough money
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  Speaker 5: for you what. So that's how Toya called me, basically
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  Speaker 5: thinking to be like, hey, I don't know what she
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  Speaker 5: told you, but I ain't that tight blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, hey, I want to take you out.
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  Speaker 5: She said, I got a paper I got to write.
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  Speaker 5: She was like, I got to rewrite it.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: She was in her master's program. She was like, they
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  Speaker 5: said I played arry something. I was like, I'll rewrite
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  Speaker 5: it for you.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I rewrote her paper. Level the next level wrote
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  Speaker 4: her paper. You rewrote with tor thesis.
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  Speaker 1: Paper with the no, not her thesis.
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  Speaker 4: It was just a paper paper, did the notations the
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  Speaker 4: proper way.
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  Speaker 2: And I go, day, wait a minute, hold and then
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  Speaker 2: in the rest of history this is before y'all.
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  Speaker 1: Day one doctor.
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  Speaker 2: We been spent twenty dollars on the two for twenty
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  Speaker 2: apple by.
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  Speaker 1: I liked her. You rewrote Toya's paper. It was something
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  Speaker 1: about it, something about it.
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  Speaker 3: I was.
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  Speaker 1: I was hooked over. It was over.
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  Speaker 5: So it's like like you get that first bumps, it's over.
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  Speaker 1: Toy is my drug. I have no idea that was.
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  Speaker 4: So I've heard media crackhead that to my drug.
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  Speaker 3: Oh whoy.
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  Speaker 1: So you've always been sprang from day one. It has
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  Speaker 1: never changed. No, we we have, don't get wrong, a handful,
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  Speaker 1: but but you love that handful. I love the handful. Wow, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so I heard this story. That's that's a really good one.
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  Speaker 2: I need to hear how you and Simone met and
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  Speaker 2: how did you snag doctor Simone.
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  Speaker 3: So we're a spell House connection.
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  Speaker 2: So for those outside of Georgia, that is Spellman, the
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  Speaker 2: all girl black accredited college, and then more House, the
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  Speaker 2: all black male accredited college.
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  Speaker 6: But we ended up being in the same apartment complex,
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  Speaker 6: and still Georgia, a lot of the more House and
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  Speaker 6: Spelman students lived there. So Simone and her girlfriend were
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  Speaker 6: coming in from their car. I had a bunch of
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  Speaker 6: guys over my place. We were playing video games. They
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  Speaker 6: walk up and my boys.
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  Speaker 3: Like, oh, here come these girls. He come to girls.
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  Speaker 3: My roommate and one other guy ran out and was
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  Speaker 3: like hey, hey, hey, come inside. And they came in.
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  Speaker 6: I'm playing video games and my boy, my roommate was
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  Speaker 6: like he had as soon as he saw someone.
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  Speaker 3: He was like, that's my girl right there.
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  Speaker 6: I'm going with some mom and so young girl. He
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  Speaker 6: about to steal girl. No, So I'm playing video games.
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  Speaker 6: They come in. The two ladies come in. I was okay,
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  Speaker 6: see Simone, see the other girls, Like dang, she sounded nice.
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  Speaker 6: But my boy was like this my girl, I'm going
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  Speaker 6: with it. So I let him roll with it for
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  Speaker 6: a long time. I was like, it's a long time,
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  Speaker 6: you know in college. A couple of weeks, right, A
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  Speaker 6: couple of weeks. I was like, okay, And so I asked.
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  Speaker 3: Him one day. I was like, so it's you and
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  Speaker 3: some moll y'all. Y'all cool. He was like, yeah, man,
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  Speaker 3: we good. Were good.
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  Speaker 6: So some mom hit me up one day and said, hey,
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  Speaker 6: I got a waterbed and my waterbed isn't working.
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  Speaker 3: I need somebody to fix my waterbed. An eighties eighties.
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  Speaker 6: Load, so you know you're fixing turnpapers, I'm fixing water bed.
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  Speaker 1: And you're fixing waterbed.
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  Speaker 3: This eighties though, loas right.
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  Speaker 6: So she's like, my waterbed, I said, I got a
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  Speaker 6: water bed back in La.
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  Speaker 3: I'll come down there and I'll hook you up.
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  Speaker 1: Did you really have one?
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  Speaker 3: I did.
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  Speaker 6: I had a water bed, went downstairs, fixed her waterbed.
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  Speaker 6: She was like, you're the best. I'm gonna make you dinner.
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  Speaker 6: So I was like, oh cool, I'm in college.
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  Speaker 3: So I go down. She makes some chicken wings, and.
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  Speaker 4: This story actually so welcome to reality.
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  Speaker 6: She makes these chicken wings, makes a nice little dish.
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  Speaker 6: It was a good food and I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 6: and so we're down there, said hey.
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  Speaker 3: So you know I appreciate this. This is so sweet.
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  Speaker 6: I said, I know you and my man y'all going
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  Speaker 6: out and hanging out. She was like, I'm not with
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  Speaker 6: your man at all. I was like, what she said,
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  Speaker 6: I'm not with him. So when I got back up.
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  Speaker 3: To our our apartment, I said, hey, are you and
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  Speaker 3: you and Simone are y'all hanging?
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  Speaker 6: He's like, now that that's my girl. So I was like,
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  Speaker 6: once he said that, I was like, okay, but did
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  Speaker 6: you have.
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  Speaker 1: A conversation with him to be like hey.
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  Speaker 3: No, I mean yeah.
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  Speaker 6: When I went upstairs, I asked him. I was like, hey,
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  Speaker 6: are you you and Simona are y'all dating? And he
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  Speaker 6: was like he finally came clean and was like, nah,
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  Speaker 6: that's my girl when you.
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  Speaker 1: Come clean and say she cooked me dinner and I fixed.
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  Speaker 3: He knew that. He knew that because he knew I
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  Speaker 3: fixed the waterbed.
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  Speaker 1: I was saying, so you were knowing college for fixing water?
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  Speaker 1: Did I fix everything?
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  Speaker 3: I do it all? I do it all.
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  Speaker 6: I'm a renaissance man, I'm a morehouse man. I'm cooking,
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  Speaker 6: I'm fixing stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a rental and.
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  Speaker 2: You're also you know, a main ingredient in the Maritime
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  Speaker 2: Medicine show. I am obsessed with this show. I am
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  Speaker 2: really appreciative of you two coming because look, the show
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  Speaker 2: is successful, not only because of the strong women who
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  Speaker 2: are fantastic, all of them past present, and even the
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  Speaker 2: ones coming on.
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  Speaker 1: It's a fantastic show.
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  Speaker 2: But let's be clear, without the men, the show will
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  Speaker 2: just be another female ensemble docu series, which will be okay.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't feel like the men on the show
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  Speaker 1: get the props that y'all deserve.
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  Speaker 2: So when doctor Eugene hit me up on Twitter, it's
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  Speaker 2: a joke.
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  Speaker 1: I take off serious, I see.
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  Speaker 2: So when you hit me up on Twitter said you know,
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  Speaker 2: we need to come on, and then Cecil said, yeah, Carlos.
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  Speaker 1: Break up on? I said why not?
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  Speaker 2: Because I love the show so much and I did
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  Speaker 2: create this podcast so that people can have a voice
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  Speaker 2: and I want to hear about the two of you
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  Speaker 2: and what y'all think. So do y'all wives know that
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  Speaker 2: y'all are here today?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, of course. How did that go? Well? Toy, Well,
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  Speaker 1: you want to show Toya for some reason it acts like.
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  Speaker 5: I haven't been on the show with her for ten years,
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  Speaker 5: Toya said, and I quote, have a good interview, talk
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  Speaker 5: less to think more, and they are not your therapists.
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  Speaker 5: So I hit her with a couple couple couple of means.
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  Speaker 5: And my response was like, you think after ten years,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I don't know how to conduct myself, you know.
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  Speaker 5: But I think the great thing about our show, it's
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  Speaker 5: not just the fact that we got met here.
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  Speaker 1: It's actually more of the couples.
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  Speaker 5: You know, for a while, we were the one of
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  Speaker 5: the only shows that had all married ensemble. If you
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  Speaker 5: really think about it, there was you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: what else was it? Blackish kind of you know, like
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  Speaker 5: but besides that, even the housewives really aren't they weren't
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  Speaker 5: they weren't married, you know, half of you know.
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  Speaker 1: So to to just be able to showcase.
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  Speaker 5: In a reality format married couples, the things we go through,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I think is important.
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  Speaker 1: And I think what I.
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  Speaker 5: See from from you know, the Twitter, artience, Instagram and
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  Speaker 5: just just meeting people, you know, people, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Especially guys. A lot of guys watch.
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  Speaker 5: Our show and they're like, man, I really appreciate you
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  Speaker 5: showing you know, how you are with your kids, how
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  Speaker 5: you are with your wife. Man, me and my wife
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  Speaker 5: went through that, you know, and even some of you
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  Speaker 5: know me and my wife, we're very open, like even
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  Speaker 5: financial stuff we put out there.
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  Speaker 1: You know. You know people are like, Man, I had
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  Speaker 1: that problem too.
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  Speaker 5: I know, I know people that were doctors had that problem,
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  Speaker 5: you know, like and but it resonates, and it's like,
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  Speaker 5: that's why we're we're so open because we know it
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  Speaker 5: may help somebody, you know. So I think it's just
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  Speaker 5: a great show case of black families, you know, black fathers,
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  Speaker 5: you know, black husbands.
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  Speaker 1: It's just I think it's important to put out there.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's not anywhere else. No.
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  Speaker 2: But that's the reason why the show is so good
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  Speaker 2: is because of all of those components that make sense.
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  Speaker 2: So when you told Toya you were talking to Carlos King,
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  Speaker 2: she was cool with it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I love Toya. Okay, now you're white.
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  Speaker 3: Here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Here we go, Doctor Simone.
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  Speaker 2: As you know, I'm her favorite blogger in the world,
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  Speaker 2: and I love doctor Simone. So when you told doctor
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  Speaker 2: Simone that you was hopping on Carlos King's podcast.
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  Speaker 3: So Carlos, let me say this.
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  Speaker 6: Let me say this first up before I even start,
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  Speaker 6: I got to give you big props for even allowing
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  Speaker 6: us to come on. I mean, we've been on TV
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  Speaker 6: for ten years and we've never had an opportunity to
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  Speaker 6: come out and talk about the show. So I really
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  Speaker 6: appreciate you doing this first. Let me say that. Secondly,
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  Speaker 6: I know it came off kind of strange with the
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  Speaker 6: whole blogger thing, but trust me when I tell you this.
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  Speaker 6: Simone and I both are huge fans of you.
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  Speaker 3: I mean we are huge fans of yours.
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  Speaker 6: We cheer you on on all the shows you do,
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  Speaker 6: We watch them. We tweeted out. Simone is just a
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  Speaker 6: different animal. And Eugene will understand what I'm saying when
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  Speaker 6: I go a little bit further with this. She doesn't
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  Speaker 6: really do reality. I mean, she doesn't do social media.
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  Speaker 6: I believe that she's not. She doesn't really get into
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  Speaker 6: all the stuff that a lot of the ladies do
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  Speaker 6: when it comes to going to events talking about their
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  Speaker 6: true and so when she made the comment about bloggers,
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  Speaker 6: it wasn't specific to you. She was talking about all
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  Speaker 6: of the interviews that Simonda, I mean that Quad had done.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't your.
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  Speaker 6: Interview specifically because we both watch your interviews, we watch
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  Speaker 6: your podcast because I personally think no one else is
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  Speaker 6: doing anything close to what you're doing.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 6: I mean it is truly interesting stuff that we can't
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  Speaker 6: get anywhere else, and we watch it.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, and so I know it came off like
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  Speaker 3: it was.
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  Speaker 1: I want her to know that, because you know, when
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  Speaker 1: it came back to me, I know this. We all
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  Speaker 1: like to have fun.
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  Speaker 2: And I do this because, like I said, this isn't
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  Speaker 2: my show, not my creation.
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  Speaker 1: I do it because I love it. I love you guys,
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  Speaker 1: I love the genre.
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  Speaker 2: I have this platform to promote us black people to
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  Speaker 2: really have a voice.
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  Speaker 1: So I know me and about are good.
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  Speaker 2: I want the world to know that we have fun
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  Speaker 2: with it, and I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Want anyone to think that it's serious. It's really just fun. Shade.
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  Speaker 1: It was fun, Shade. It's fun. But I love her
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  Speaker 1: so thank you, and she loves you. Thank you.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you. You got to prove to up here, Yes
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  Speaker 6: I did.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 3: She gave me the same kind of rules the Eugenia.
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  Speaker 6: I probably got three different messages about what I should
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  Speaker 6: say and don't go too far.
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  Speaker 3: She was saying, you know, don't drink on this show.
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  Speaker 6: She didn't want me to be like on Club Shad
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  Speaker 6: Shade get drunk.
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  Speaker 1: That's where we got water.
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  Speaker 2: No. I appreciate that, and I love your wives, but
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: I love you guys, and I want to get into
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: This season has been explosive. It's the highest rted season
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  Speaker 2: ever in Marriti Medicine history. There's a lot that's been
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  Speaker 2: happening this season, but there's a lot that happened prior
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  Speaker 2: to this that led up to why this season is
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  Speaker 2: so great. When it comes to marrit To Medicine, do
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  Speaker 2: you guys have any regrets or had any regrets signing
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  Speaker 2: up to do the show, because it's not like you
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  Speaker 2: grew up wanting to be on television and your wives
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  Speaker 2: didn't either. But when this show came around and you
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  Speaker 2: saw all the attention that it received, were there are
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  Speaker 2: moments in your marriages where you sort of questioned whether
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  Speaker 2: or not this show was healthy enough to sustain your
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  Speaker 2: healthy marriage.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I can start because when we did the year
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  Speaker 6: Fire reunion and Simone announced that we were getting divorced,
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  Speaker 6: I think it's the most watched reunion on Bravo. I
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  Speaker 6: was after I walked off stage, I was like, as
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  Speaker 6: much as this has been a interest in journey, we
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  Speaker 6: should have came off of here a year or two
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  Speaker 6: before because I just felt like this is a disaster.
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  Speaker 6: Now the truth be told is that it actually saved
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  Speaker 6: our marriage. And I know people like, how does a
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  Speaker 6: reality show save your marriage?
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  Speaker 3: But Simone and I are stubborn.
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  Speaker 6: We were not talking, so we had already made them
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  Speaker 6: in our minds like, Okay, you're ready to move on.
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  Speaker 6: I'm ready to move on. You don't want to talk.
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  Speaker 6: I don't want to talk. But then we come to
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  Speaker 6: the reunion, you have to talk. And not only do
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  Speaker 6: you have to talk, your friends are also talking to you,
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  Speaker 6: and they're saying things to you like, see, so are
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  Speaker 6: you sure about this? Are you going to let the
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  Speaker 6: devil come in between you and your marriage? And it
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: hit me and I was like, you know what, I
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: haven't done enough. So as much as people sometimes down
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: and talk about how bad reality TV is, truthfully tell
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: you that without it, Simon, I would be divorced. No.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I watched that entire season and even the reunion, and
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: to see how the couples rallied around you guys in
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: tears to say this marriage I thought it was beautiful.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: And the reason why the show is great is because
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: it is real friendships, and you guys may fight and bicker,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: but fundamentally it is about real friendships in that moment.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Going back to season five, obviously the biggest controversy was
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: that you had a female.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Friend named Tammy, and.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: It appeared that Tammy was coming in between your marriage
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: with Simone. The fact that you would hang out with
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: this woman as a married man, the fact that you
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: guys would have conversations as a married man.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Did you and Tammy ever cross the line?
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: It never crossed the line. Simone never thought we crossed
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: the line. We were really good friends. I mean like
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: that was like a sister to me. And I think
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: that we didn't understand the dynamic. I know, I didn't
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: understand the dynamic of how it was affecting someone because
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: they were hanging out. I mean, they went to London together,
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: and someone went to London together without you, without me,
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: and so I'm thinking, Okay, she we're cool. She's cool
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: with someone without me. But after someone explained to me
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: how she was feeling, that's when I was like, Okay.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Initially I didn't get it.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Because was Tammy, friends with you first or someone else.
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, she was a work friend. She she we worked
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: together at Coca Cola.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Y'all worked together Coca.
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: Cola, played golf, hung out. She's just a good person
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: and became a friend. She married, not she was divorced,
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: but she had become a friend of the family, friend
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: of us, friend of someone's mom, her sister.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, she was she was truly like family.
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: But it did get to a place where someone got
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: uncomfortable because she felt like she was spending.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Too much time with the family, too much time with me.
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: And I didn't get that concept because I was like,
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: wait a minute, I mean, this is family, Like, why
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: would we push back from family?
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: And that's the.
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: Reason why when we were going through our issues, I
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: didn't get it. And that's the reason why I was like, well,
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: if that's the issue, then I'm that doesn't make sense.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: That doesn't make sense. I'm gonna go ahead and move.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go this way, you go that way, because
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: I don't understand what you're talking about. Until we got to.
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: The reunion and she started explaining to me what heard
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: her about it. And then once she explained to me
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: what hurt her about the situation. I was like, you
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: know what, I haven't done everything in my power to
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: try to fix it. And so when I got back
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: to Atlanta, Tammy and I had a conversation and I
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: fixed it.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: How did that conversation go between you and Tammy?
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: I mean, it wasn't the best It wasn't the best conversation,
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: but she was truly a friend. So when we had
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: the conversation, she was hurt, but at the same time,
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: she was like, see so I totally get it. I
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: totally get it, and I understand what you got to do.
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: And from that point, I mean, we met at Spondivids.
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: We were sitting at the bar, having drinks, having a
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: good time. We had the conversation. I haven't talked to her.
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: I saw her one other time at a friend's birthday party.
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: We hung out at a birthday party. Other than that,
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: I haven't talked to her six years, five six years.
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: But that's the power of the show, I think is
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: that we're being very most of us are being very
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: genuine with our lives. Most of us and most of
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: us are being very genuine with our lives, and a
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: lot of people are going through these same things. And
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: life's not black and white. It's a lot of shades
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: of gray, and so I can see as a man
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: being very confused in that situation, like, okay with my
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: wife's cool with her, what's the problem?
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: But I think a lot of men who are watching
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: the show probably gained some insight on your wife doesn't
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: think like you think, you know, and so there's a
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: lesson to be learned there, and so putting that out
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: there has helped who knows how many people's marriage?
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because even okay, because again I watched the show,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: and I think what was unclear for I'll just speak
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: myself for me was if Tammy and Samone are traveling together,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: They're going to London, gathers for the family, you guys
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: were together, She comes to the crib, she plays with
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: the kids, you know, all these things. What changed where
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Simone felt that I no longer want this woman around
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: my husband? Like, was there anything specific? Was it the
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: fact that you two were spending too much one on
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: one time together? Did Tammy in a properly sent you
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: a text message?
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Like what?
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: What was the moment in Simon's mind that shifted that
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: this is no longer something I'm okay with.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, and that's a that's a beautiful question. And
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know that this is the right answer, but
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: I will say this. There was a.
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: Time where Tammy had a flat tire and she called
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: me and said, hey, I'm on the side of the road.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: I got a flat tire. Can you come and helped
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: me out?
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: And I went and I said okay, And I told
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: someone said, hey, Tammy's on the side of the road,
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: I gotta go.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna help.
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: I think that maybe how I moved on that, like
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: I moved so fast, like it was like I gotta
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: go help Tammy.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: I think that might have been.
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: A trigger for someone to be like, okay, wait a minute,
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: I don't get this saying.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: I can I offer a different perspective, please do, because
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: me and Toya have had a conversation similar I think
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: for well, I was gonna say a woman, but actually
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: it could be either either gender.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: I think when.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: Your spouse is confiding in the opposite sex about your relationship,
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: it becomes problematic, like you can be friends with them,
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: but don't talk to them about our relationship. So once
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: like surface stuff I think is okay. But if me
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: and Toya get into an argument and I call a
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: female friend to get advice about the argument. That's when
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: it becomes an issue for Toya.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: No, And I think that's fair. But that wasn't. That
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: wasn't our relationship. That was not relationship. But that is fair.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: That is a fair point because I saw.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: You jump really fast to go jump start at someone's car,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: got a flat tire?
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Jump start?
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: No I'm saying that, but no, because I now again
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I wanted to sort of like paint a picture for
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: the world.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, I understand that.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: If I am at home and my husband is doing
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: him and he comes into the room and says, Babe,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I gotta go town.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: I got a flat tire.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: I gotta pump it up right, I gotta.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: And she sees you sweating, and she said, you got
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: your running nikes.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: On and you are in the car paddle to the metal.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I can understand why she's sort of like, now, why
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: are you rushing to do that for her?
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: But let me ask you this, were you ever attracted
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: to Tammy?
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: No?
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Never?
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Never?
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Is she an attractive woman.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: She's an attractive woman.
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: But I mean, I like all I like them I
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: mean some of my friends would say. Some of my
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: friends would be like, okay, yeah, I know Cecil was
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: not attractive to Tammy. But the truth to the matter
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: is she's such a sweet lady, she's such a beautiful
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: spirit that she's an attractive woman. I just wasn't attracted to her.
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: I mean, but we played golf together, we hung out.
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: I mean, she's one of the nicest people you ever meet.
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: But at the same time running out the way I
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: did for her. And you know, of course, when you're married,
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: when you're in a relationship, people never feel like you
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: jump when they ask, right yes, And I probably didn't
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: jump every time someone ass and so to see me
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: jump in this occasion. And then when there was a
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: time when we had a snowstorm and someone was over
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: at North Side Hospital and I asked her like, are
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: you sure you need me to come get get you?
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: I think she tied those two together and.
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: Bingo, yeah, do you miss Tammy? I mean, yes, I do.
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: I do I miss Tammy.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: Because we were in a golf group and now I'm
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: not in the golf group anymore, all the guys cut
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: me for Tammy. So we used to play in a golf.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: You mean to tell me your homeboys in the golf group.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: I don't get anybody anymore. I get zero in.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: But they chose Tammy over you.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: They did, I mean they did, and I understand it.
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: So I didn't know that I'm gonna learn how to
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: play golf.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I played with her, I mean, but why so? It
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: is she a good golfer.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: She's a good golfer. She's a good golfer. But she's
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: just a nice person.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: But I think you're the nicest Thank you, But I
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: think so.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I really do love you. I think you're the nicest
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: guy in the world.
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: I appreciate that color and I try to be nice.
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: But at the same time, I wasn't mad at my
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: guys for stop inviting me out to play golf. I
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: don't play with those guys anymore. And these are some
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: of the people. I introduced Tammy to these guys, and
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: I don't play in that group anymore.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: I got new guys now.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I mean to me, Tammy, I mean, it's Tammy in
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: a relationship.
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: Now, I don't know, Like I said, I haven't talked
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: to her in like five plus years.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Did you ever resent Simone for not being able to
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: continue this friendship. And now even hearing that you lost
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: your golf friends because of you ending.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: This friendship, I didn't resent her at all.
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: I made a conscious decision when we were in New
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: York at the reunion talking about it, that you know
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: what if, because at that point, I mean, I've been
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: married twenty years, so I'm like, you know what if
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: this is gonna jeopardize me move be for my wife,
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: then I gotta let it go. And so I don't,
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: I don't falter. I'm totally fine with it. I'd make
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: the same decision tomorrow.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: But she was my friend.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So what you guys mentioned earlier is you
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: feel like the majority of y'all showcase your realized who
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: do you think on the show is not showcasing.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Their real life?
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Who's not here?
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Jackie and Curtis all right?
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: Put its way, when I think in the if you
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: look back in the show and you don't see a
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: lot of scenes in the person's home, I don't think
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: those people are showing their authentic self. Like there's there's
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: certain people I haven't I've never even stepped foot in
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: their homes.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: From a camera, stem from a you know, well, like
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: they don't show it.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well no, you physically well, i'd say wait into
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: a different times. Well, I think physical camera wise, there's
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: some people you don't really see their life that much
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: in their home. I think those people aren't being one
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: hundred percent authentic with everything. Yeah, they're showing a representation
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: of themselves.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: And I'll just leave it at that. So as we're
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: talking about doctor Jack and Kurtis, I didn't say that,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: you said that do what does Curtis do in the
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Dominican Republic?
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: So what he explained to us is that he's in
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: a group and they're looking to build a resort and
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: a part of the dr that's not fully established.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: He told it was a development deal. But that's that's
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: all we know. We don't know anything else.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: What's so funny, I don't know, you're looking around like
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: there's more today that we don't know anything else.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: All because I saw flies fly ro because there was
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: a bullshing.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: So allegedly Curtis is in the men of Republic building
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: a resort.
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: I mean no, I mean not even allegedly. I mean
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: he sent out the pamphlet. We saw the pamphlet where
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: he's one of the partners of this development group.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: I mean Jackie understands it.
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: Jackie sends it out and shows people he's part of
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: a development group building a resort in the dr Now
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: we done. We haven't gotten an invite to go, so
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: I haven't seen it with my own eyes.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: When Curtis got caught at Atlanta Hartsbille International Airport going
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: through Spirit Airlines.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Near frontier holding hands with a woman.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Carrying coach luggage, were you guys aware at that time
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: that he was having an affair?
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: No?
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: No, you never rebuilt.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: No, and Curtis and I were friends. I mean I
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: met kurt Is.
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: I mean I knew Jackie before they got married, and
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: so I make characters as soon as she met him.
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: But no, we were not hanging out like that. I
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: mean I didn't know that he was. I didn't know
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: he had somebody on the side.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: If you two would have known that he was cheating
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: on Jackie, would you have told your wives?
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: Uh, Eugenie, you want to answer first, because that's a
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: great question, because I think I know what Eugene is
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: gonna say.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Me and Toya pretty open with each other. Pillow talk.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Beyond pillows, some kind of way. We Yeah, I mean,
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: you know, I mean, keep it.
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: What probably would have done is real talk, my my.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: My kind of general thing with this is heyto taught
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: to Jackie, because just just make sure she's okay relationship wise.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: And I probably would have left it at that now,
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: like because I now. One thing I don't like doing
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: is it's like acting like I know something that I
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: don't now just because I see somebody with somebody, I'm
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: not going to assume is what I think it looks like,
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: because it could be something totally different. For instance, I
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: saw a friend the other day.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: He's a lawyer.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: He was in a restaurant with a blond right, he's married.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: Now I think he was. He was on a business meeting,
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: you know. But if you if you didn't know that
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: and you just ran with it and said, hey, you
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: know he over there with with this girl, you know, like,
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: that's that's wrong to put out, that's assuming. So just
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: because I see somebody out with somebody, I don't know
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: if that's his cousin, I don't know, if that's his
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: daughter's friend that he's you know, like I don't know
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: he's got a grown daughter that his daughter could have
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: been in the bathroom and that could have been he
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: could have been you know, like, it could have been
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: all kinds.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Of different scenarios.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: So I would have just been like, hey saw something,
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: don't know what it was, just check on Jackie.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Weis would have told you told me that. He wouldn't
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: have told you. Guys that would have told me.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: He might he might would have telled me. I wouldn't tell.
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't tell someone because the other part of the
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: equation is is that I see so many times where
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: people go back and tell and then the person forgives
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: the person and now you're the you're the god man out.
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: So I would never do it.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: I would never take Now, if he told me that,
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: my conversation with the man would have been a counseling.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Now that's different.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: That's different.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: No, No, I would have a I have a conversation,
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: a conversation.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Right, Look, I've had what can we do other than that.
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: I've had multiple friends. I've had multiple friends that had
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: gotten off track, and we've had conversations. Sometimes the conversations
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: go well, sometimes the conversations don't. But I'm going to
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: have a conversation with the guy. I'm not going back
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: and telling the wife though.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no that I mean, listen, I think that's what
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: all men would do if if we're all being honest.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Besides Eugene, they're watching Judy.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: But other than that, this is the thing about maritive medicine,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: and again, as a producer, this is what I feel
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: is missing. I love doctor Jackie. I think she's fantastic
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: on the show. She's what's needed for the show. She's
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: the medicine Marathon medicine. We were exposed to some infidelity
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: within her and Curtis marriage. I feel like ever since
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: that was exposed, we just don't see anything, and it
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: begs the question of what's happening.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: Curtis is a pretty private person, like so of the
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: guys on the show. I'm probably closest with Cecil. I've
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: known Damon probably the longest and right after Damon Gregory.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: But I do know Curtis is a pretty private person.
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: Like we're not friends, Like we talk on the phone.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: You know, obviously we filmed together, but that's our interaction
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: and I think we're good.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: But I understand that he is not the person who's
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: going to.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: Share everything of his life before the infidelity or after,
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: and so he's just not the type to be filming,
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: like we film, it's just not gonna happen.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: So you feel a lot. I do, and we love
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: seeing that. There has been tons of people. Doctor Heavenly
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: has called you sassy. She believes you are a sassy man.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: What do you think.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: When you hear that?
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Because you're married to a woman who's on this show
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: that's very opinionated and the show is about couples. When
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: you hear that someone like Doctor Heavenly thinks you're sassy?
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Does that offend you? No? Put its way? I actually
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I laugh it off. You know. I think a couple
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: of things.
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: One, I think this notion of manhood I think has
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: gotten the script has been. We've gotten off on. Like
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: if you're not in this mold that people think you're
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: supposed to be, right, yeah, then then you're either hyper
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: masculine or you as sissy, you know, sassy, whatever you
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: gin up, whatever you don't.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Call whatever, I don't, I don't really give it.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm gonna buy hi address, like, okay, make
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: it a nice one. I know what I am, you know,
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: like I know what I am and I know what
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: I answer to you know. But I think there's different
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: ways to be a man, you know, like manhood isn't
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: one singular thing, just like womanhood is not one singular thing,
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: you know. And but this whole notion of women's business
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: and that that kind of thing, Like if we were
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: to rewind thirty years ars ago, the women wouldn't have.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Had anything to say.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: We would have we'd just been man talk and we
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: would have squashed them and say no, you also stay
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: in your place, don't say anything. But I think, you know,
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: society is kind of overcorrected and oversteered where now women
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: are in this thing where we have a voice and
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: we're supposed to be equal, but now we're trying to
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: tear men down to not be able to have something
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: to say. My thing with the show is, you know,
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: we're all here, we're all filming, we're all you know,
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: have you know, you know, if you're talking about my family,
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: I should have something to say. That's not you know,
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: me being sassy, like I'm speaking up either for my
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: wife or my family or for myself, Like you don't
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: get to talk about my family and I don't have
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: an opinion, just you know, like I just don't see
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: why we're trying to silence a man's voice, because thirty
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: years ago we were trying to silence women's voice and
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: we said that was wrong, you know, and so it's
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: equally wrong to silence my voice as well. So you know,
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: I don't really care about the sassy comments or the
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: Ugina comments or.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: But the thing about Okay's say, I know who I am.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: I know who I am, and we love that you
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: are who you are, and we love that you as
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: a black man, you're very secure in your skin.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: When and I said it to Quad and I said
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: it's to Toya.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: When Quad called you Ugina, I did think, like, Okay,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: that's too far.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: And I said this to her.
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: There's been other things she said that I think we're further,
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: like what than Ugina, Like like like the stuff about
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: me and Toya were drunk driving with our kids, that
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: was further, you know, Like the stuff about we might
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: have robbed Kieran and Aneila, that was further. You know,
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: Like those are those are things that I take offense to,
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: and those are things I actually have said something about.
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: But then when I say something, it's we're gonna get
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: him addressed. I'm like, well, you kind of don't get
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: to say what you want about my family doing something criminal,
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: and I don't get to say something, you know, because
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: I'm a physician, like and you know some of the
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: stuff that Jackie's been saying lately about you know, you
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: don't get to say something about a physician like it's
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: it's the stakes are a little higher for us, you know,
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: because even though uh, you know, I have to I
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: have to get certified to work at these hospitals. And
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: if the CEO at the hospital looks at the show
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: and says, oh, he might be a criminal, you know,
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: like what if he says, well, I don't want him
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: working here. You know, I don't want Jackie working at
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: that hospital, and that that that that that that affects
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: my longevity and my ability to take care of patients
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: that I love, take care of my family that I love. Like,
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: you don't get just say I'm doing something criminal with
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: no proof. And so those are the times that I've
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: said something and people have been like, oh, well, you
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: stay out of women's business. No, that's not women's business.
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: This is this is everybody business. This is my business.
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: Now you're talking about my business, you know.
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: Well, and you know the thing that's disappointing about it.
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: And you know, I hate to go to the whole
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: race thing, but I do believe that it happens more on.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: The Black shows.
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: Oh, you know, on the Black shows, if a man
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: has anything to say, he's being sassy, and you know,
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: and I love Nini, but I think when Nini started
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: out with Peter about being you know, Patricia and so forth,
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: I think she started the narrative that if a guy
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: has anything to say, that he's in women's business and
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: he shouldn't have anything.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: To say on this show.
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: The other side to the coin is, as you know,
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: they're asking our opinions. Yeah, we're coming out and they're
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: asking our opinion to.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Speak on it.
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: Now, sometimes we'll say things and sometimes we might decide,
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: you know what, I'm not going to speak on that.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: And for me, that's not why we like this show.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Because you you made a good point.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Marrition Medicine is the first black reality show that focused
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: on married couples. And because of Maritime Medicine doing that
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: so successfully, and you may having opinions, I'm able to
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: have creative loving marriage. You know, a show to where
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: both men and women have an opinion. Now, the difference
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: with that show is they're all main stars of it,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: and they all get paid. You guys do not get paid.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: No American Madison, Right, do you feel like it's time
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: for you guys to get paid on the show?
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: And no.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: Now do I do I want to have the schedule
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: that my wife has with the show.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I'm not.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not available to film five times a week. Okay,
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: this is a part time kind of gig for me
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: when we're filming. But but do I I think the
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: audience when looking at it, wouldn't know that we're getting paid.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: But the men, we are pivotal to the success of
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: the show, whether we're paid or not, whether we're in
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: the Dominican Republic or in Atlanta.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: You know, like we're here, right, you my type of guy.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: You guys are a pivotal part of the show, so
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: much so that you guys are storylines.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Right. I want to talk about Quad.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Colors. You might want to look this way, talk about
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: don't look that way.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the case something, but real bro, talk What
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Quad? I wish it will? What
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: do you mean? What do you mean?
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: What are my thoughts? That's a very general question.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, in terms of as a person, you know,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: like you said, she has called you ugina, she has,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: you know, made comments about the robbery. She has apologized
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: to you and Toya about that on my podcast as well.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: You two seem to have this very divisive relationship.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Who has a divisive relationship you in Quad, me and Qui. Well,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: it appears that you two go back.
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: And what my honest opinion about Quad, She's just not
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: my favorite person in the world because I wish her well.
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: I just I've I've let Quad back into my family's
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: circle multiple times, and it's it doesn't seem to go
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: well every time we say, okay, well, we'll hug after
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: an apology, and so I'm I'm I wish her well.
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: But I have nothing else really to say to Quad
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: necessarily like she you know, I can be in the
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: same room with anybody.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: I don't wish no ill will on her. She's just
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: not my favorite person. She's Cecil's favorite person. So we
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: can talk to Cecil about that.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Do you accept her apology?
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: Of course I accept it, but that doesn't mean accept
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: an apology doesn't mean that I want to be your friend.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: And there's and there's.
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of people in this world that I
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: can I can wish them well, I can be in
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: the same room with them, But I just I'm not
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: confiding in you. I'm not necessarily wanting to be your friend.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: There was some hurtful things over the years, and and
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: and Toy has mentioned this multiple times.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: I'm sure, are you still hurt by it?
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: I think I think the robbery stuff and the cheating
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: stuff and the drunk driving stuff, we're biggies.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Like I think.
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: I think our show, the platform of reality TV, I
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: get the shade like like some shade like even stuff
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: I've said, I've said a bunch of stuff, you.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Know, sometimes I just get to I say stuff.
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: Curtis checked me on one thing that I said. I said, Hey,
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: that was I was joking. That was over the line,
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: the whole dunkin in the basket thing, That was a joke.
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: I apologize. I think he forgives me. But if he doesn't,
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: you know, but.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: I think he does.
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: But I think there's you can't ofss a line in
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: reality TV where when you start talking about people doing
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: something criminal and you have no proof, you know, like
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: that's that's when I think it's really crossing a big
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: line where you're saying things.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: That could result like like the whole cheating thing or
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: accusing toy you of cheating right with someone in the neighborhood.
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: Now I know, I know the backstory behind some of
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: this because and that's the thing. Another another thing why
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: I think the show is so successful.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: We all kind of knew each other.
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: We've known each other for a long time, and some
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: of the stuff that comes up on our show, it
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: isn't I don't think even explained well once you edit
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: and shop it.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: It's hard to.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: Explain some of the stuff because some of the stuff
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: go real deep, you know. So if I was the
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: type of person guy, if I was this ultra masculine
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: guy who I heard that my wife was cheating with,
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: who it was said was cheating with, if I was
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: the type to just go over to this house, that
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: wouldn't have been a good scenario at all. But I'm
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: not that tight. Luckily, you know, I'm saying true.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I had, I had. I had just a conversation with
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: my wife.
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: We talked about it, and I believe, and I believe
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: my wife.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Did you ask Toya whether or not she cheated on
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: you with this guy.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Well, well, actually, well who she who? Who it was
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: supposed to be.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: I thought it was funny because I know Toy doesn't
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: even like this person that much, you know. But we
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: did have a convers you know, because once it comes up,
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: you still got to have a conversation, you know, And.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: There was a was there a small part of you believe.
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: That there's always I think there's always gonna be a
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: gut punch anytime somebody tells you your wife is with
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: somebody else, whether it's true or not. Now, once I
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: heard it, gut punch, but it's like that's not even possible.
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: Then you have the conversation with your wife and be like,
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: okay that this all makes sense, you know, problem solved.
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: But still the person who kind of perpetuates the rumor
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: doesn't know that I'm the type to just have a
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: conversation with my wife. Because there are some guys out
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: there who are not going to have a conversation. They're
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: gonna go be very active, like proactive, and try to
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: do something to the guy. They're either just gonna leave
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: the girl and be like, well you're cheating, and she's
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: gonna be like baby, this this this, I'm not and
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: he may not believe, you know what. I was just
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: not believing, like she's qua said you were cheating, so
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: I gotta believe it her.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm not that type.
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: But it's still you're saying something that could have caused
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: a lot of problems, you know, the whole Well, what
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: if we robbed Anela and Kieren. That's that's a big deal,
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: you know, And a lot of people are probably are like, well,
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: why are you all because because recently we're we've gotten
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: back in I think a friendly kind of situation with
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: Anela and Kieran. But they've been both very apologetic, you know,
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: very you know, and to the point where I'm like, okay,
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: I believe y'all.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: The first time, the first time Toya said, hey, come
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: over kire in o'neila's house, I was like, I'm not going.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Over there for what she's apologized to me, you know.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: I was like, so I don't mean nothing, you know.
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: But now I get like I've hung out with them
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: a couple of times. I think they're now genuine and
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: so it's about how you act after the apology, not
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: after the apology. Quads apologize multiple times you know, there's
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: been multiple girls on the show. To apologize multiple times
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: doesn't mean anything afterwards.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: So you talked to see some Now Qua's your favorite person.
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: I mean, she's not my favorite person, but she's she's sweet.
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: I mean, like I mean, but you got to remember,
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: there's there's a history here. I mean, I mean we've
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: known quite ten years. I mean, we've hung out outside
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: the show. You know, we went to Vegas for the
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: Mayweather fight when her and Gregory with it. We're still married.
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: You know, I was pulling for her and Gregory to
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: be able to pull their relationship up together. My experience
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: hasn't been the same as Eugene, and you know, and
• 50:06
  Speaker 6: Eugene and I talk about this all the time because
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: we're good friends and we'll have conversations. He'll raise something
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: to me and I'll be like, yeah, that's a good point.
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: It's hard for me to see it because like, she
• 50:19
  Speaker 6: never comes at me that way, right, And everything that
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: I've seen from her has been, at least from from
• 50:26
  Speaker 6: our family's.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: Perspective, has been pretty genuine. And that's the part I like, Yeah.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: And I do think, you know, one of the things
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: about the cheating thing, and again This is just me
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: watching the show because I think Toya accused Quad of
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: sleeping with the contractors.
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: No, she just she just somebody else said that first.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Somebody on the.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Show said, yeah, Toya wasn't the initiative.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Who was?
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: I think my wife might have been the first one
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: repeat it.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: She repeats it, but Red the first she did.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: She I didn't.
• 51:03
  Speaker 6: My wife might have been the first one to repeat it,
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: but she repeated it on something that somebody else had
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: told her too, which she shouldn't have done.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: But she did.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: The now the bite that you see a lot.
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: I think the biggest conversation about it, I think was reunion, Yes,
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: and that was between Quad and Toya. So it makes
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: it like it's a bigger thing and it's kind of
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: timestamp for the audience at that moment. But Toy didn't
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: say that first. That was not something Toya knew or
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: was going seeking like, that's not that wasn't her. That
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: wasn't her tea that she came up with.
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: It.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: So obviously, when you guys started the show, Quad was
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: married to doctor g. We saw the up and downs
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: of their relationship, then the divorce, and he was not
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: on this show anymore. And now that he's back, he's
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: with Sweet Tea. What do you guys feel about Doctor
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: G coming back to Maritime Medicine, I.
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: Pussu way, just because you know, just in the same
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: way that we're saying the men are pivotal to the show,
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: and the men you know, we've we've stuck in there
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: for the show for a long time. Doctor G was
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: there from the beginning, you know, So him coming back
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: is like it's like a character that kind of left
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: for a second and came back, you know, Like I
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: look at I look at the show like an audience
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: person looking at the show.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: I like Doctor G. Back in the day.
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: I thought it was hilarious, you know, and so and
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: I still think he's larious. I think he's good for
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: the show. But I like him now coming back because
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: he really looks happy now. So just as a personal man,
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: the man thing, I like, I like this Doctor G.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Better you think Sweet teammates Doctor.
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: I think I just see him as a happy person.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Happier, happier, Yes.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's the beauty of it though too.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: The beauty of it.
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: Is we're getting to see Doctor G in a different light, right.
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: Because the evolution of somebody, you know. I like seeing that.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he looks he looks different.
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: I mean even in their scenes when they're in the
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: home together that we don't know what's going on, but
• 53:14
  Speaker 6: when we watch it, like, Okay, he.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: Took the trash out. You know, they showed him taking
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: the trash out this year. He never took the trash
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: out with cud. So, I mean, you know, just.
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: To see that and to see him, you know, because
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: here's the other side to it. You know, Gregory and
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: I play golf together. We were hanging out even when
• 53:32
  Speaker 6: he wasn't on the show. But the thing that I
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: think is important is doctor G being a psychiatrist. I
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: think it's important to our community to have someone like
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: him on the show, to be able to have a
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: voice for some of the stuff that we got going
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: on in our mental state and what's going on.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: In the community. And I think doctor G is is
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: an amazing voice. I hope he writes.
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: I've been pushing him to write a book to talk
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: about mental health. I mean, it's needed in our community.
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: And doctor G is an amazing doctor. I mean, he
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: is an amazing doctor. I've seen him on a golf
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: trip stop playing get to come off the course to
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: go and talk to his patients.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: He's not on.
• 54:23
  Speaker 6: Call, but someone found out, you know, they had his number.
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: They send him a message, he calls him back. The
• 54:31
  Speaker 6: guy is amazing And so for me to have someone
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: like that on the show, that gives everyone who's watching
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: the show a different perspective, you know, because I mean,
• 54:44
  Speaker 6: doctors are real people. And that's the thing that I
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: love about Married to medicine. Yes, everyone was on the
• 54:50
  Speaker 6: show and married. But the other side to this equation
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: is these are real doctors. And we're not talking about
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: just Jackie and Simone, but Jackie, Simon, Damon, Eugene Gregory,
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: I mean, Alicia Kima.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: These are real doctors.
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: And and this is not a situation where these people
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: are playing doctors on TV. Yeah, and and not everyone
• 55:15
  Speaker 6: grew up with a silver spoon in their mouth. These
• 55:17
  Speaker 6: are people who grew up regular like everyone else, but
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: they went the extra mile to become a doctor. To me,
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: that's an amazing, amazing I think that's what sets our
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: show apart.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And like you said, it's to highlight and showcase
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: that love of black excellence when it came.
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: To and heavenly too. I just want to make sure
• 55:35
  Speaker 6: I didn't say heavy. Did I say that? I don't
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: know if I did. I just want to make sure
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: I said heavenly too. Okay, it's an amazing It's an
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: amazing cast of accomplished black folks. Some folks went to HBCU,
• 55:52
  Speaker 6: some didn't, but folks that grew up with, some folks
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: with single parents, didn't have a whole bunch of money.
• 55:59
  Speaker 6: I mean some more. Own story is amazing. I tell
• 56:01
  Speaker 6: her all the time, you should be writing a book.
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: She grew up with, She grew with her and her
• 56:06
  Speaker 6: Her mom and dad divorced when Simone was younger, and
• 56:10
  Speaker 6: Simone decided when she was twelve she was going to
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: be a doctor, and she did everything in her power
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: to make that happen.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: To me, that's amazing.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, now listen.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: That's why again it's the best shown Bravo, because I
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: think what it does is shows the audience and even
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: the hopfols, the way we were watching a different world
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: and we saw black people in college and it made
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: us all want to go to an HBCU. You know,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: My hope for this show is that it showcases that
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: you too can be a doctor. In whatever you know
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: form that may be, whether it's dentistry, er surgeon, all
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: that stuff. Mariah Hawk obviously created this show. Do you two,
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: being the men behind, you know, the women who are
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: the face of the show, do you feel like, at
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, it was wrong for Marijah
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: to get kicked off this show she created.
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: I think Mariah did an amazing job putting this together
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: in the beginning, like like I've made you know again,
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: I was being being somebody who was there from the
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: very very beginning, even before we got picked up with Pop.
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: You know, we were in the first this is a
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: real with the other company. I think she did a
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: wonderful job. I think, if you want my honest opinion,
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: some of the background stuff between her and production company,
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: I think that got muddy. It wasn't her on Sene Persona.
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: It wasn't her relationship with the girls either. In my opinion,
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: I think Maria's not on our show because of some
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: internal stuff with the people who did the production company
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: with that produces our show, because it's not I don't
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: like the narrative that I see on Twitter, where uh,
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: the girls got rid of marian and the girls got
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: rid of Quad, none of none of these ladies can
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: get rid of anybody there there there are individuals they can't.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Then now they can.
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: They can ask you to leave a party, they can
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: ask you to leave Napa from their trip. But they
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: can't kick you off a show. Only you can kick
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: you off a show, and only you and your relationship
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: with the people who sign your check can't get rid
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: of you.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: And so and just like you know shows that you.
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: Put on, you know, uh, there's there's there's no two
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: people on that you pay. They can get rid of
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: another person that you pay, You can get rid of them,
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: but they can't. And so I just I think the
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: narrative that the ladies bound together.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: To exile you know her, like like she.
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: Was Napoleon and now she's on the island. I don't
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: it didn't work that way. It makes sense for or
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: somebody who watches the show. I think because people that
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: watched the show don't think that there's a production company.
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: They think that's real. They think everything they see is like, well,
• 59:11
  Speaker 5: they asked Quad to leave. That's why Quad ain't back.
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: You know, it's like, well kuhy my name be backcause
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: Quaid didn't show up.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: On time.
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: You know, QUI my name be back, because when Cod
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: shows up, she said, I'm only here for my check,
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: not for y'all.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: So there's a lot of stuff behind the scenes that
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: are going on that people don't see. So but but
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: to go full circle, I think, I think Mariah put
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: together an amazing ensemble.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: I think the idea to have people who really, really
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: actually knew.
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: Each other to do this this this this thing was
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: amazing and that's why we've stayed on TV for ten
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: years because we organically worked. And honestly, I think that's
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: why Houston didn't work. That's why La didn't work, because
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: you were trying to and picked these weird, random people
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: that didn't know each other and didn't bring them together.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: We already knew each other, and so that's why when
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: we get mad, we get real, real mad, you know.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: But when we get happy, we get real happy.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: And that's why the longevity has been the way it's
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: been because it's very organic. So I do give Mariah
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: all the credit for that.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Mariah's amazing.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 6: I mean we're not sitting here talking to you without Mariah.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 6: And not only that, I mean to look at five
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: of the women, the main cast women were all brought
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 6: in by her. These aren't people that were auditioned by
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 6: the production company. These are her people. And to Eugene's point,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: I think.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: Technically Toya introduced Heavenly to Mariah.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well yeah, but it's all still it all still
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 6: comes to it still all comes through Mariah. And I
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: truly believe if Mariah was involved with Houston in LA,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 6: it might have been different, because I think her eye
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 6: for reality.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: TV is different. She's amazing, She's amazing.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: But to Eugenie's point, there were some things going on
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 6: behind the scenes that we had a chance to witness
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: that wasn't pretty.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: She said on my podcast that there were some intense
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: conversations and moments, you know, she did say that, Yeah,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: I said this show was married to Mariah because I
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: felt like they were trying to erase history, that they
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: were trying to ice me out. And I have to
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: constantly fight as a black woman to be heard and
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: to be seen and to be respected. Are those things
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: that you guys have seen her fight to do and
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: to be I mean.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 6: We saw those, but we also saw other stuff too,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 6: Like what cecil.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: I mean, well, can I I'm gonna try to say
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: this as diplomatically as I can.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: I think some people just like to fight. Some people
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: got a lot of fight in them.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: It doesn't mean that there's somebody on the other side
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: that's even wanting to fight.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Well that makes sense.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 6: Well let me let me let me hold on, hold on,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: let me let me let me say this part about it.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 6: So the other side to this, I think is we
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 6: were not involved when Mariah signed her deal with the
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: production company, So we don't know what they agreed to
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 6: from a executive producer standpoint, a money standpoint, rolling out
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 6: on other shows.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: We don't know what happened with that. But what I can.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: Tell you is this based on how she reacted to
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 6: the production company. Whatever deal she got wasn't one that
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 6: she was pleased with. And so because she wasn't pleased
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 6: with her deal, when the production folks were around, she
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 6: would get in the ass, I mean, and we we
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: would actually be filming a scene, that's what, and she
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 6: might say something in the camera directly to the production
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 6: company and we're filming. She know that sit getting cut out,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: but she might say something directly to the production company like.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, she was.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 6: Upset and again I don't know what her deal was.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 6: I don't know if they were nigged. She might have
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: been well within her right to be upset. I don't know,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 6: but she was. She was hot and it came off.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 6: And so if I you know, I'm a business person.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 6: You know I worked at Cocola for twenty years, Corporate
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: America for twenty five years. If I'm running a business
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 6: and someone is working for me, is what I call
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: being insubordinate, Probably gonna let them go.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: And I mean, I think technically.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: He said it in a very concise way for all
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: of us to get a clear picture of it.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. If you guys saw her on
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: my podcast.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: She's in a beautiful place and she built the studio
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: in MacDonough. And do you guys still keep in touch
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: with Aiden or no?
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: He cut us loose? I mean, and and I love Aiden.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: Aiden was a good guy. You know.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 6: Mariah, Mariah's family to us. I know she talked about
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 6: it on your podcast. I mean her, her her aunt
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 6: was our nanny, Simone delivered right right her her her son,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 6: and so I mean it was it was tough. I'm
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 6: not gonna lie to you when Mariah wasn't on the show.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: It was hurtful. It was hurtful for me, and it
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: was hurtful for someone.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: And and and I watched, I watched the podcast she
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: did with Mariah and and I think she even alluded
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: to it a little bit her last season. Toy and
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: I were still in her corner.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, she loves Toya.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we were still And to this day, I was like,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: I think she was wrong on a couple of things.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: I will always say that. And we were on her
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: on her side that last season. But again it goes
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: to what Cecil was saying, some of the stuff outside
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: of the ladies, outside of all the couples. I think
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: it's why she's not here. I just, I just I
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: just don't like the narrative that we got rid of anybody,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: because that's not possible.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: We can't do that. I want to talk about you
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: and Toya.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: Toya was on my podcast, and I love your wife,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: and she and I bo from Detroit, and we have
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: this special bond. And I'm very honest with Toya. And
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: I said to Toya, I was not happy when she
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: would make comments about.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: You, which which woman we got all day.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: Hell listen side listen, you know how much I adore you.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: I was going through a family situation recently, and thank
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: you to Toya. I reached out to her to get
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: through you and you have been there for me for
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: some very crucial months in my life. And I went
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: the world to know that, from doctor Jackie to you,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: I will always be grateful for the love that you
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: guys have shown me behind the scenes. And because of you,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: my situation has gotten better with the family member. So
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: I wanted the world to know that I have a
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: deep affection for you because you are You are a
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: great man, and you are a great doctor. And when
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: I when I spoke to Toya my podcast last year,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: and this is before my situation was happening with my
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: family member, I said, I don't like the way you
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: talked to him.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't like how she would make references to you
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: having a small penis.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: She didn't though the ladies took okay, okay, no, nor
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: go ahead one. She cleared it up on a recent
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: podcast Okay she's We talked even the the day that
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: this all came out. What she said and what the
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: conversation was about was when you get married, it is
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: what it is Okay. Now I know my wife and
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: I know me. I bring up weird little references. I've
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: done it today multiple times. We just say little stuff
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: to get our point across. There's a little on the
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: edge of where.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: We probably should now what she what?
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: She was giving examples to the ladies, like, you get married,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: this ain't gonna get no different.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: If you be happy with what you got, because.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: It's not gonna get no no different, hopefully if his
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 5: penis ain't gonna getting bigger. And I would say to
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: say that her but ain't gonna get no bigger.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: I watched no no, No, I watched the episode Toya
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: sand Burbato. She said, she said, I thought when I
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: got married, I thought that his penis would get bigger.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: That's not what she said. I saw it on the show.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: What did she got? What it back?
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: She said, he said his penis not mine. She said
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 5: his the it's not going to get any bigger. Yeah,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: she said his penis isn't his penis. No, she said,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: she said his penis isn't going to get any bigger.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Uh huh.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: So be happy with whatever you got. Now here's the
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: flip side.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, Okay, now do you all think that.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 5: This person who claims on every green screen that I've
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: ever done with her for the last ten years is
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: the sexual demon.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Do you think she would be with.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: Somebody who couldn't satisfy her? I don't think so. Toya's
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: a very good looking woman.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: She is top three, the top one, of course.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: Okay, so so so toy is. I don't say if
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: I couldn't do what I needed to do and was
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: in adequate enough, yes, I don't think she'd still be.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: So you weren't offended by that comment when you first
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: heard it, I didn't like.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: Okay, I don't like the penis conversation because because I'm
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: I'm truth be told, I'm an extra to introvert. I'm
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: actually pretty. If you leave me alone, I could just
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: sit and not talk to nobody. Yes, I can perform,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: but this ain't to me. By myself, is a pretty
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: quiet person. So when I'm hearing that my penis is
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: being talked about on on the reunion show, I'm not happy.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: You know, do I like business being thrown at me?
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not happy? But do I know who I married? Absolutely?
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: Was there a conversation. We have a toy, but we
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: talked about it.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: What about the conversations when it comes to she's not
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: being satisfied in the sex department.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: Now, no, that's now, that's that's separate, and that that
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: actually was a journey that I and I've been very
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: vocal about that, Like, there was a point where I
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: think I was getting a little bit depressed, and I
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: started when the pandemic was going on, and.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Toy talked about that.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: I thought it was all the pandemic, but even maybe
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: a couple years before the pandemic hit, I was starting
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 5: to get a little lazy at home, kind of to myself,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 5: not really my zest for life was kind of like down.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 5: And didn't know what it was until I went to
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: the doctor. I was like, please check my testosterone level.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: I was like, I'm, you know, mid forties. I was like,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: just check it, you know, And I think it's an
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: important thing, I think just for men's health, you know,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: for us to talk about, like once a man gets
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: to the point where they're like thirty five, sometimes your
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 5: testosterone level starts to drop naturally and.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: You need replacement. Just like if you're a diabetic, if.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: You're insulin levels are down, you need to take some
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: you know, you know, like it's a hormone and if
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: it's down, you need to replace. My testosteronal level was
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 5: like at the level of like a sixty five year
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: old man. And so getting replaced like now I'm like, oh,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: I feel good again, my you know, like I can
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 5: do stuff in the bedroom now. I'm losing weight now,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: you know. And so those are the things that like,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 5: even just doing it for myself. That's why I opened
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: up like my clinic now, you know, Recharged Wellness, where
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: I'm doing hormone replacement for people, doing weight loss for people,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: because I've lost fifty five pounds, like I feel amazing,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: But I get you know, like you know, marriages are
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: up and down for all different kinds of reasons, whether
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: it's you know, the stuff that Cecil talked about earlier,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: whether it's you know, somebody's got a hormone issue. There's
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 5: gonna be these, you know, but you just got to
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: figure out what the problem is and then fix it.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Y'all fixed it. I was like, Okay, obviously there's something
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: wrong with me. Let me go fix that, you know.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: So I don't I don't take offense that Toya was like, hey,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: I feel like I'm alone in this house, you know,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: And because that's her truth, and I had to man
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 5: up and be like, Okay, yeah, you're right, you know,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: because I'm not as attentive, and now that I've gotten
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: my stuff together, I'm a lot more attentive and I
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: think a lot more engaged with all facets of the relationships.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: So I don't mind her saying that kind of stuff, because.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: You've revealed recent in a recent episode that the word
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: divorce they come up.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: Why did that work come up during your marriage? Uh?
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: We got there's a lot of ups and downs, you know, Like,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 5: like I think, for as much as we we, Toy
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: and I are both fire science, we're both mouthy. We
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: both think we're right all the time, and sometimes that clashes,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: you know. And then when you have like this a
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 5: lot of external stuff, like the cheating stuff. Even though
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, you think the stuff bounces off you,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: but to a certain point, you know, it can affect
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: you to the point where you're like, yeah, I know
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: that's not true, but.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: Are we good? You know.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: And then when you're you're not spending as much time
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 5: you got the rigmarole with the kids, you know, like
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: you really got to re engage. And that's why this year,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: with like the dates that we've been doing, just kind
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 5: of re engaging as a couple, I think was important.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: And honestly, I see on some own, just like we
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: tried to help them, they they had an intervention with us.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 5: Uh oh yeah, this wasn't shown, but uh, you know,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 5: we got invited. We got invited to dinner when this
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 5: was before this was in between seasons and nine.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: And yeah, between nine and ten.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, well if we had a camera, boy.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: So you and Simone took it upon.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: You and saying some other mutual friends and some other
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 5: friends got got.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: Me and Toya.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: We got invited.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 5: We got invited to dinner, dinner, and it was nice dinner.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 5: And then they took us in the basement and sat
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: us down.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: It was like we went in, look you to.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 5: We went in because I because I was saying, you know,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 5: and you know, once you get to you know, if
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: you have a day of being married where you're arguing,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: no big deal. But when you get to the point
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: where you're arguing for a couple of weeks, you know,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: obviously Toya probably was talking to someone and I'm calling
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: see like, no, you don't done this done that talking
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: to me any kind of way, I bet that it's
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: not gonna happen, you know, Like then you get to
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: the point where like, okaylet's set y'all down before this
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 5: gets any worse.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 6: So we love them together, right, I mean, they they
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 6: get each other. They are in my opinion, they they
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 6: feed off of each other. Where I think some of
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 6: what makes Toya great is some of the challenges that
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 6: Eugene will push her to. Some of the things that
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 6: Eugene I think gets out of his probably his safe zone,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 6: is because Toya pushes him.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 6: And to see them between nine and ten going off
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 6: in different directions, I was like, wait a minute, we
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 6: can't have this, and so it was.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: It was a spirited conversation.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 5: Now I think I think the push pushing is is
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: the right is the right word? You know, when you
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: when when you when you think somebody is pushing you
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: because you feel like they have good intentions, then you're okay.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: With the push.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 5: But when your focus is you know, the kids, work this,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: that and the other, then when you get pushed and
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 5: you're not paying attention to why you got pushed, you
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 5: feel like it's an attack and I think for a
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 5: second we felt like we were being attacked by each
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 5: other as opposed to being pushed because the other person
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: loved us and was trying to make us better. So
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 5: we were fussing about stuff that was like, well, you're
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 5: not helping me, Well you're not helping me. It's like, well,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: we actually just if we just band together, we realized
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: that we have the same goals. You're team, You're on
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 5: the same team. We just need to refocus. So that's
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 5: why I was like, after a certain point in marriage,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: I think you really have to re engage, especially once
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 5: you once your kids get to be like that preteen
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: age when they don't need you as much. You got
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 5: to re engage back into almost like a dating, courting
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: kind of thing because your focus so much was about
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: keeping these kids okay. And then all of a sudden,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 5: they're fine.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: They don't need you.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 5: You know, they wake up in the morning, go to school,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 5: they come home, they make their own food. They don't
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 5: really need nothing except for some guidance on big issues.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: Now we're sitting in the house like looking at each other, like, okay, well,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 5: for the last five years I have new interests and
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 5: she's got new interests and we're looking at each other
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 5: like who are you?
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Who are you? You know?
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 5: And so then when when the person tries to say,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 5: well you need to do X Y and Z was like,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: well you don't know me, you know who you to
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: tell me?
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: Like I you know.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: And the same thing with her, like I'm like I
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: don't want to hear about tennis, you know, She's like,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: well I love tennis.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about it. You know.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 5: It's like like we were just talking two different languages,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: So you guys saw that and obviously, like you said,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: you were confiding him and she would confide in some
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: own So you guys have this intervention with other couples
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: to really save this marriage.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 6: The beauty of the del Carlos was this. When we
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 6: were talking to Eugene, Toya was the one that was
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 6: like protecting him. She was like no, no, no, no, no,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 6: you don't get it. When we were talking to Toya
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 6: and Santoya, you can't do this, Eugene was the one
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 6: Protectoya who runs. Once I saw that, I was like, okay,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 6: they good.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, But it's one of those like that's the beauty
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 5: of having couples that knew that they've already been on
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 5: that journey.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: They knew what we what.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: Was about to happen, So it was like, let's talk
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: to y'all before it happens.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: You know. No, that's again. But that's why we love
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: this show.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: We love the season poper Union when they rallied with
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: you and Doctor Simone, and we love that we're able
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: to hear that too, because look, I know you read
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: things about your wife. People really are afraid that Toya
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: is going to take you to the poorhouse?
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: Is there any fear? And no, I'm gonna tell you
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: what it is.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: They feel like this poor even last night when I
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: was on Live with Doctor Heavenly. People are obsessed with
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: this dynamic because.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: They feel sorry for you. They think Toya is spending
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: all your money.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: Toya makes more money than I do. Right now, okay, okay,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: go right for for over a year time, for the
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: last several year, buch hair, just toyo.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 7: Love, She'll go look up, get in trouble, brobably, let
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 7: the run ain't no love.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: Let the loves more money than you?
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 6: Yes?
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 5: So how am I? How am I going broke? When
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: she's like for the last several years she's made more
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 5: money than I.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: Do, Doctor Eugene Harris.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: It's okay, now I hold my own. Don't get me wrong,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 5: Oh not at all.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: But it's just the show pays money. You know, the
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: show pays Bree money, right, you know I know that.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: By I think the perception has been I'm gonna tell
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: you and again I'm till you read this. They said
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: Toya is living her best, soft life, great life.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: Toya wakes up.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: They said, Toya has the kids wake her up to say, Mama,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: take me to school, because Toya is in bed until
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: twelve forty five until it's time to go to the
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: one o'clock tennis match. And that this poor man is
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: working around the clock to live up to Toya's standard.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 5: To clear again, let me clear up with several things. One,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 5: Toya makes a good amount of money. All the stuff
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 5: Toy is buying right now.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: Toy paid for. Toy also pays for the boys tuition.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 5: Toy pays for all of our vacations.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: Toy pays for a lot of stuff in our house.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: Where you spilling it.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: Okay, got money right, Okay, So she's not broke and
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 5: she's not gonna take me to the poorhouse.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, close your.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 5: Mouth, Carlos, It's okay, I implored.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: Are you using Toya bar O? Yes, I'm a capt man.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: That beyond that, the next.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 5: Part is whether we did this show or not, whether
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 5: Toya had a million dollars a year or not, whether
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 5: she was a billionaire or not. I like working. That's
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: what I do, so it doesn't matter how much my
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 5: woman makes. This is how much I want to work anyway.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm a workaholic.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: I was texting patients before I got here. I worked
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: in night.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 5: Shifts in the er, still like I'm doing. I'm a
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 5: hospice director. Now I do a lot, you know, but
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: I like doing it. That's what I.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: Do, and you're not doing it because again the perception
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: when not doing it.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: To keep a lifestyle. I'm doing it because that's what
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: I like to do. I liked being in the hospital working.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: I like seeing patients. I was, you know, liked some
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: old story. I grew up in not that great of
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: a neighborhood in south Southeast DC. My family moved to Maryland.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: My all I've ever said, well, I want to be astronaut.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 5: First I saw the challenge that blow up and I
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 5: was like, no, forget that, you know. And after that,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: I was going to be a doctor and I wanted
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 5: to do this my whole life.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: And that's it.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 5: That's the only thing I've ever said. Nobody's ever heard
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 5: me say I wanted to do anything else, So why
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: wouldn't I do it?
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: Wow?
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm really glad we had this because again,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: so when you see these, I mean, listen, I used
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: to get mad.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 5: On Twitter and be like, yeah, be like they tell
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: you know, get a job.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: I was like, you're watching her job, you know. I
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: was like, I was like, I can't.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 5: I can't fight the whole Twitter, you know. I was like,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: so I stopped, you know, do that. So but I mean,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: I like working just what I do. And Damon, I
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: used to work with Damon in the er until you
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 5: Damon will say to this day I was the happiest
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: person he ever saw working in the YR because Damon
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 5: hated it. And I would show up and I'm like, man,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 5: why are you so sad? Like this is amazing, Like
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 5: don't you like doing this?
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: This is great? You know?
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: Doctor heavily said that you guys are renting your home
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: and because she's a financial expert that has doctor university.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: She feels that you two are wasting your money. She said,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: y'all spend between ten and fifteen thousand dollars a month
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: to rent a house when that money should be used
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: in equity for a home.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: Okay, that's what I payon. She don't pay none of
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 5: my bills. I really don't care what Heavinly has to say.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, but the same thing that I mean.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 6: The guy on Netflix, you Know, How to Live Your
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 6: Rich Life, he has a show out there and he
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 6: talks about Renting has a lot of different values to it.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 6: Number one, you don't have to worry about the maintenance
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 6: and upkeep.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: If something goes wrong, you call your landlord. Renting gives you.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 6: The ability to be able to move if you need to.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 6: It also gives you the flexibility as long as you're saving.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 6: It gives you the flexibility to not necessarily time to market,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 6: but to buy when you're ready to buy. And so,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 6: I know in our community it's always about don't rent,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 6: don't rent, But the truth is, I mean, you know,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 6: I'm a realtor now, and so in this market.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: A lot of people have to rent well and I'm
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: not saying that. I'm not saying that.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 6: I know that's not your situation, but there are people
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 6: out here today's time they have to rent well.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: But it's not a negative.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: To clear up for the audience, I suppose during the
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 5: ten seasons, I have owned two houses that you've seen
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: me in, and I've been I've rented three houses, different scenarios.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: Why I was in all of them.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 5: When I moved to Atlanta, I was in the house
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 5: in Southwest Atlanta. We got to the point where the
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 5: neighborhood wasn't very safe. We were the only house on
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: that street that did not get broken into. They had
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 5: a car broken into, but the actual house did not
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 5: get broken into it and Toya was like, I got
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 5: these two kids, I'm moving whether you come or not.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 5: And that was like Oh. I was like, oh, we
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 5: got to move. We moved somewhere that was I think
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 5: a little above where we probably should have been. But
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 5: the problem is was it affordable?
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 5: But the bad part was we never really talked about
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 5: this on the show. I was an assistant director at
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 5: my emergency department at that time. When we moved into
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 5: that big, big house with the hill, I lost that year,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: about one hundred and fifty thousand in revenue that year.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 5: Because that my company got rid of the assistant directorship.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 5: So I lost a bunch of money. So I'm in
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 5: the house like, oh shit, what am I going to do?
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 5: You know, That's when I had my tax problems, you know,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 5: like all this stuff's got a reason for it.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: We moved into a house.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 5: I was like, oh, if I had that one hundred
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 5: and fifty thousand, I'm Gucci, you know. But I moved
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 5: into it. I'm already signed the paper, We're already in it.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 5: We got an issue and so but we were very
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: open and honest, like, hey, let's talk about budget, let's
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  Speaker 5: talk about this, let's talk about that, let's talk about
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  Speaker 5: how we need to move. I think we were a
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 5: good example of what you do when you're in a
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 5: financial issue for a lot of people. Moved to a
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 5: smaller place, moved to a smaller place. We got our
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 5: money together. We bought a house. Now the house we
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 5: bought common piece of trash, if I must say so.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 5: It looked great on the surface. Everybody, everybody story closet,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: the two story closet was a wonderful house. There was
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: a lot of issues that did not we didn't want
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: to put out on a show they didn't have time
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 5: to put you know, like you've heard some stuff house
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: And the market was such that we sold it for
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: about eight hundred thousand more than we paid for so
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 5: we made a profit. I made a profit, all right.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 5: So now I'm renting until I find what I want.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's okay.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 5: And unless it Heavenly wants to pay some of my bills,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 5: she can just keep her opinion.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really care. Her opinion is just that.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I appreciate you guys coming through because again you don't,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: unfortunately get an opportunity to express yourselves.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: And YouTube, out of all the guys on the.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: Show, make the biggest impact when it comes to this show.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: So to have the opportunity to talk to YouTube has
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: been great. This has been a great season. It's been
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: a phenomenal seasoned it is on the show.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: Do you guys think she should stay on the show.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: I'll go back to the housewive.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 5: Now here's one little nugget, the only nugget I'll give
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 5: for the reunion. And actually I don't think I don't
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: know if a camera was up when I said this
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 5: the pha I like Fadri for the show. But I
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 5: did tell Phaedri I gave her some grace this year
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 5: because because I gave Quad a.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: Lot of flat for being.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 5: On the show, because I again going back to what
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 5: we what I loved about the show earlier was that
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 5: we were all married ensemble. I loved that for us,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 5: and I wanted to keep that Moniker, and so I
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 5: did give Quad some flat back in the day, I
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 5: gave faed With some grace that I never brought it
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 5: up this year. I said for next year, we gotta
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 5: find you a man, and she said, okay.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 5: This was after the reunion was done. We were walking out.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 5: I was like, we gotta find you a man. If
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 5: you're staying, do you think she should say I like
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 5: her for the show.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 6: Okay, she's super funny. She's super funny. She is She's
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 6: made for TV.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, But.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 6: I kept waiting for the boyfriend. I kept waiting for
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 6: the boyfriend. That's kind of how our show works. So
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, when is the boyfriend coming around? When
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 6: he didn't come around the first couple of weeks, okay,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 6: I get it. But then when I realized he wasn't
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 6: coming around. It definitely changes the dynamic of our show.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 6: And Eugenia and I talk about this all the time.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 6: Is that from my perspective as a guy, you know,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 6: and the guys that I talked to, that I meet
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 6: in the gym, I meet at Costco, the guys that
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 6: watched the show with their wives and their girlfriends, they
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 6: watch it because they love to see the dynamic of
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 6: the couples. They love to see how you are dealing
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 6: with your situation. And I think that this year with
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 6: Phaedra and then also Quad, and you know in Quad
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 6: is real private when it comes to her relationship, So
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 6: she never brings a guy around on the show, so
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 6: we don't get to meet anybody that she's dating.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: She's dating, she is dating, She's all. I mean, it's Quad,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: So you know she's dating.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: It's Quad.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 6: You know she's dating, right, I mean she is such
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 6: a charismatic type that's here in Atlanta. Everybody loves her,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 6: So I know she's dating. Fadra's dating too, I'm sure,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 6: But the thing is they're not allowing that to happen
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 6: on our show. And for me, as much as I
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 6: love Faedra, I feel like, if she's gonna come back,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 6: we need to see who she's dating. We need to
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 6: bring him into the group. We got to bring him
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: the Cigar City Club. He got a hand out with us.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 6: We got to see what he's talking about. Same thing
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 6: with Kauahid and Quad will tell you I've been telling
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 6: her from the beginning, like, hey, I know you don't
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 6: want to show your guy, but we got to meet him.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 6: I mean, your big brother has to meet you guys,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 6: and they you gotta let him know on.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: The front end. They gotta come on the show and
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: we got to talk.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: And what does she say to that, She'd be.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: Like, they're not coming, She's not doing it.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: But I appreciate you two coming because again, this has
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: been a great conversation and I'm happy to report, well,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: you guys can report back to your wives that this
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: was a great conversation, beautiful conversation, but.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: Also much need a conversation.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: And also no, seriously, I am so happy you cleared
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: the air about this perception when it comes to Toya, because.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: I literally and I know her.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that I spend money too.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: It's just no, no, no, no.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: But I love the fact that we get to stop
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: perpetuating this stereotype that Toya is a kept woman who
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: spend your money and people are afraid like this poor
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: man is about to go to the poorhouse to buy
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: her chanel back. But I also love the fact that
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: you are able to really speak so candidly about the
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: struggles you face with doctor Simone and the Tammy situation
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: and how that did affect you. Because again, a lot
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: of men watch your show. I have a show loving
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: marriage franchise.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: I'm like you the gym.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: I don't go to Costcos, but I do go to Target,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: and every once in a while if a man is
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: in Target, because they usually aren't, you know, they do
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: stop me and say, like, yo, I watch your stuff
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: with my wife because my wife put me on this show.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: And I like the men's perspective, and I appreciate y'all perspective,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: and I appreciate y'all.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: But coming on reality for the King and we got
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: to do this again.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 6: Appreciate you, We really appreciate you allowing this to happen.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, anytime.
• 1:31:00
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