Latest / PNW Haunts & Homicides / The Dark Strangler, Every Landlady's Nightmare | Part 1: Earle Nelson | Portland, Oregon
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Nelson escaped at least three times before hospital staff simply
- 0:05Speaker 1: stopped attempting to locate him.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Oh my god.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is some old time he shit. They
- 0:14Speaker 1: were likely a little bit overwhelmed at the time, after all,
- 0:17Speaker 1: you know, kind of a few things going on.
- 0:20Speaker 2: Like we can't keep chasing this guy.
- 0:23Speaker 1: No, like we simply we simply calmed. His frequent escapes
- 0:27Speaker 1: earned him the nickname Houdini among the staff, which, honestly,
- 0:32Speaker 1: it's far too whimsical a nickname for this, very clearly
- 0:35Speaker 1: on whimsical bitch. Hi, Kathy, Hi, Caitlyn, Hi, creepy people. Hello,
- 0:46Speaker 1: that was a little a little groggy, he or you?
- 0:51Speaker 1: Uh well, I feel like I'm following in your energy,
- 0:55Speaker 1: so maybe.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Sorry, I'll try to pick up pick the vibe.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Now, you're you're all right, You're all right. I get it.
- 1:07Speaker 1: I did not sleep in today, and I'm sure that
- 1:11Speaker 1: I'm going to be feeling that later. I will be
- 1:16Speaker 1: groggy at a later time.
- 1:19Speaker 2: I'm just getting it over with now.
- 1:21Speaker 1: Yeah. I admire how proactive you are.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Thanks, I try. You're welcome. Okay.
- 1:31Speaker 1: This is PNW Hanson Homicides, where we chat about true crime.
- 1:35Speaker 1: The paranormal and all things spooky in the Pacific Northwest.
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- 2:03Speaker 1: We wouldn't do that to you. No, that's that's sacrilege.
- 2:07Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna We're gonna keep it, uh, straight
- 2:12Speaker 1: to business and get right to it this this go around.
- 2:16Speaker 1: I remember when I first learned about Israel Keys. The
- 2:20Speaker 1: thing is as scary as he is. The thought that
- 2:24Speaker 1: he might not be the first of his kind was
- 2:27Speaker 1: absolutely terrifying. The fact that he's not the only is terrifying.
- 2:34Speaker 1: I wish there was something that we could do to
- 2:36Speaker 1: identify them. But if there's one thing Bundy has taught us,
- 2:41Speaker 1: it's that we often can't until it's too late. So
- 2:47Speaker 1: what do we do, like avoid all men? Yeah, well,
- 2:55Speaker 1: easy to say when you already shnagged that ring. I know, ladies,
- 3:00Speaker 1: while I wouldn't say, we're necessarily talking about an exact
- 3:04Speaker 1: one to one today in terms of comparison to Israel
- 3:07Speaker 1: Keys or Ted Bundy for that matter. The Pacific Northwest
- 3:12Speaker 1: did lose multiple victims to this man who's so soon
- 3:18Speaker 1: become somewhat lost to history. Love that for him, well
- 3:24Speaker 1: except for that one Hitchcock film, so even that isn't like, oh,
- 3:28Speaker 1: he's like immortalized through this like super you know, like
- 3:33Speaker 1: cult classic like it is, but also it's not like
- 3:37Speaker 1: one of the better known ones, you know, Earl Leonard Ferrell.
- 3:42Speaker 1: And there's some debate about the spelling, but we're going
- 3:44Speaker 1: with Ferrell literally spelled fe r r al was born
- 3:51Speaker 1: May twelfth of eighteen ninety seven in San Francisco. It's
- 3:56Speaker 1: not my favorite version of the spelling, but I will
- 4:00Speaker 1: say I'm kind of just glad it's not the same
- 4:02Speaker 1: as mine. Yeah right, because spoiler he was far from
- 4:08Speaker 1: being a San Francisco treat woo. Yeah. He was orphaned
- 4:15Speaker 1: before his second birthday and raised by his maternal grandmother,
- 4:19Speaker 1: Jenny Nelson, whose surname he eventually took. His mother, Francis Nelson,
- 4:25Speaker 1: was of Danish and Irish descent and had been born
- 4:28Speaker 1: in Iowa. His father, also born in Iowa, James Carlos Ferrell,
- 4:35Speaker 1: was of Jewish ancestry. Don't get emotionally attached because unfortunately
- 4:42Speaker 1: or fortunately, they will not be sticking around for story
- 4:46Speaker 1: time with us, as implied by the fact that he
- 4:48Speaker 1: was orphaned before his second birthday.
- 4:51Speaker 2: But okay, I didn't catch on to that. Yeah, well
- 4:56Speaker 2: darn yeah.
- 4:59Speaker 1: Yeah, don't get emotionally invested in them as characters. They
- 5:04Speaker 1: both died as a result of contracting syphilis, which, yeah,
- 5:11Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like a fun way to go, but
- 5:15Speaker 1: it was a popular one for a while there. Yeah,
- 5:19Speaker 1: a lot of people died of civilis. His grandmother, Jenny,
- 5:24Speaker 1: was a devout Pentecostal, still raising two of her own
- 5:27Speaker 1: younger children, Willis and Lillian, who were both roughly a
- 5:31Speaker 1: decade older than Earl, which is kind of I always
- 5:36Speaker 1: find that sort of odd. It's kind of off putting.
- 5:39Speaker 1: You have like a aunt and uncle that are essentially
- 5:42Speaker 1: only a decade older than you, and then you're being
- 5:44Speaker 1: raised alongside them. That's got to be kind of awkward.
- 5:48Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of it.
- 5:49Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that's just me. Family dynamics, yeah, they can
- 5:54Speaker 1: be complicated. Though he was raised in a deeply religious household,
- 5:59Speaker 1: earl behavior became increasingly disturbing throughout his upbringing. He was
- 6:05Speaker 1: expelled from his primary school in San Francisco at age
- 6:09Speaker 1: seven dang so young, very young, for what was described
- 6:16Speaker 1: as morbid conduct.
- 6:20Speaker 2: I want to know, but I don't.
- 6:23Speaker 1: Yeah, and fortunately or unfortunately, it's unclear what exactly occurred.
- 6:29Speaker 1: But it certainly doesn't seem to bode well.
- 6:33Speaker 3: Yeah, to expel a seven year old like that, it
- 6:36Speaker 3: has to be really.
- 6:37Speaker 1: Bad, right, It's got to be pretty extreme behavior. He
- 6:42Speaker 1: was a lone wolf type, likely in no small part
- 6:45Speaker 1: due to his violent outbursts, petty theft, and other strange behavior.
- 6:50Speaker 1: His grandmother described episodes of him leaving for school in
- 6:54Speaker 1: clean clothes and returning in attire that had been reduced
- 6:58Speaker 1: to essentially rags, as if he had swapped garments with
- 7:01Speaker 1: an unhoused person.
- 7:03Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, that's all.
- 7:07Speaker 1: It's a little unsettling, Like, how does a kid do
- 7:10Speaker 1: that much damage to, you know, their clothing in that Like.
- 7:15Speaker 3: It'd be sweet if he actually was trading his clothes,
- 7:18Speaker 3: But no, he's just like destroying his own clothes that
- 7:21Speaker 3: they love.
- 7:22Speaker 2: Strastically different.
- 7:24Speaker 1: Okay, he's sure just ravaging the clothing somehow. And I
- 7:29Speaker 1: crawling around in the woods, right, I just feel like
- 7:32Speaker 1: people also stereotypically had a lot less clothing in this era.
- 7:39Speaker 2: Yeah, you had to like fix everything right.
- 7:42Speaker 1: There was no such thing as fast fashion, so you
- 7:45Speaker 1: weren't getting a new top from she and every other week.
- 7:48Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 7:49Speaker 1: She also recalled that he quoted scripture in what felt
- 7:52Speaker 1: like a compulsive manner.
- 7:54Speaker 2: He quoted Scripture.
- 7:57Speaker 1: Yes, okay, like compulsively, like to a degree that was
- 8:03Speaker 1: not normal to a woman who was extremely religious.
- 8:07Speaker 3: Maybe the religion is like affecting his mental health, that's
- 8:14Speaker 3: the reason here.
- 8:16Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel as though it seems like, even at
- 8:22Speaker 1: this early stage, kind of a fair assumption that's something.
- 8:26Speaker 1: There's a screw loose, and whether or not the religion
- 8:29Speaker 1: is playing a role is debatable. But Yike's Rachel, his
- 8:35Speaker 1: female cousin, said that he had watched her undress on
- 8:38Speaker 1: multiple occasions and from here, if things weren't looking bad enough,
- 8:43Speaker 1: it's honestly an absolute avalanche. It's it's not good. When
- 8:49Speaker 1: Nelson was about ten or eleven, he was struck head
- 8:53Speaker 1: on by a moving streetcar as he was riding his bicycle.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Well, shit, yeah, I.
- 9:00Speaker 1: Feel like, you know, things weren't going well to begin with.
- 9:04Speaker 1: But uh, that isn't going to do him any favors.
- 9:08Speaker 1: According to some sources, at the time, doctors didn't anticipate
- 9:13Speaker 1: that he would ever recover. They didn't really expect that
- 9:16Speaker 1: he would survive, probably because he was left with a
- 9:20Speaker 1: horrific head injury, some sources even indicating that he was
- 9:25Speaker 1: left with a literal hole in his head. Yikes, yeah,
- 9:30Speaker 1: which that made me wonder if this was the origin
- 9:34Speaker 1: story for the idiom about like a hole in your head.
- 9:37Speaker 1: But actually, it turns out it comes from a Yiddish saying,
- 9:41Speaker 1: which oddly enough still kind of tracks since his father
- 9:45Speaker 1: was Jewish. Either way, etomology is so interesting, Well, rabbit hole,
- 9:52Speaker 1: we have to find the little pockets of light where
- 9:55Speaker 1: we can. He remained unconscious for nearly a week. When
- 10:01Speaker 1: he woke, family members described a permanent change in him,
- 10:06Speaker 1: severe headaches, occasional dizziness, memory lapses, and periods of talking
- 10:12Speaker 1: to invisible people, and then a lot of the behaviors
- 10:16Speaker 1: that were already an issue. It kind of just seems
- 10:19Speaker 1: like they escalated at this point.
- 10:22Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, you would hope it would just like
- 10:26Speaker 3: maybe change him for like change those parts of him,
- 10:29Speaker 3: you know, right, which changes other parts yeah.
- 10:34Speaker 1: I mean, not that anyone wants the practice of lobotomy
- 10:40Speaker 1: to be picked back up, but one of the things
- 10:43Speaker 1: that they were pursuing there was that it typically made
- 10:46Speaker 1: people very docile, and it's like, couldn't have had that
- 10:50Speaker 1: in this case, Like, right, it's unfortunate. He continued the
- 10:56Speaker 1: practice of obsessively reading the Book of Revelation. It is revelation.
- 11:02Speaker 1: I always want to say revelations. It is indeed revelation singular.
- 11:07Speaker 2: I don't care.
- 11:08Speaker 1: Yeah, So he continued that practice as a teenager and
- 11:14Speaker 1: could quote and could quote long passages from memory, a
- 11:19Speaker 1: habit that he would later weaponize with his victims, which
- 11:24Speaker 1: isn't really something that I'm gonna get into, like in
- 11:28Speaker 1: great detail. Let's just say like there's kind of a
- 11:32Speaker 1: thread of like this guy feels like he may be
- 11:35Speaker 1: experiencing kind of some sort of almost religious psychosis. That's
- 11:41Speaker 1: kind of it's a broader theme. In his early teens,
- 11:45Speaker 1: Nelson began frequenting brothels and bars in San Francisco's Barbary
- 11:50Speaker 1: Coast Red Light District. That's where he contracted of venereal disease.
- 11:57Speaker 1: Given the prevalence of syphilis at the time, if I
- 11:59Speaker 1: had to guess, that would be it. But I did
- 12:02Speaker 1: not see it specifically confirmed in any of my source material.
- 12:06Speaker 1: It just said venereal disease. So also because it was
- 12:11Speaker 1: like still killing people in this era, you know, maybe
- 12:14Speaker 1: it was something else.
- 12:15Speaker 3: I don't know how did he get that though. Didn't
- 12:18Speaker 3: he just go to like the red light district to
- 12:20Speaker 3: read them scripture?
- 12:22Speaker 1: Yeah you know, that's a really good point, I would
- 12:25Speaker 1: have assumed. Yeah, yeah, weird. Yeah, excellent observation, Cassie.
- 12:31Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 12:32Speaker 1: He grew into an unusually strong, physically fit young man
- 12:37Speaker 1: of stocky build, and I'm immediately picturing like the guys
- 12:43Speaker 1: of Jersey Shore. But then source material goes on to
- 12:48Speaker 1: say with disproportionately long arms and hands. Okay, he would
- 12:55Speaker 1: occasionally entertain his family by walking on his hands or
- 12:59Speaker 1: lifting heavy objects with his teeth, thereby lending credence to
- 13:05Speaker 1: a later moniker, which we will come back, and I
- 13:09Speaker 1: think I think you'll understand the connection. Earl's documented criminal
- 13:13Speaker 1: record began in nineteen fifteen, at age eighteen, when he
- 13:18Speaker 1: was sentenced to two years at San Quentin State Prison
- 13:23Speaker 1: for breaking into a cabin in rural plumous County, California.
- 13:27Speaker 1: He would claim he believed the cabin had been abandoned
- 13:30Speaker 1: because I guess for some reason he thought that would
- 13:34Speaker 1: have made it okay, still my yours? Yeah, kind of
- 13:40Speaker 1: a I feel like that's the important distinction, is that,
- 13:43Speaker 1: uh yeah, still breaking an entering, you know, squatter's right. Yeah,
- 13:50Speaker 1: I don't think that was really so much a thing
- 13:52Speaker 1: At that point he was gonna champion that. He was
- 13:58Speaker 1: parolled on September sixth, nineteen sixteen, and roughly six months later,
- 14:03Speaker 1: on March ninth, nineteen seventeen, he was arrested again for
- 14:08Speaker 1: petty larceny under the alias Clark and served another six
- 14:13Speaker 1: month sentence.
- 14:15Speaker 2: I'm Clark, I'm Clark. Now, got last name Clark? Nope,
- 14:21Speaker 2: just Clark. Yeah.
- 14:22Speaker 1: I don't know if that was supposed to have been
- 14:24Speaker 1: his first or last name. I'm not really sure. He's
- 14:28Speaker 1: just trying to pull a share.
- 14:29Speaker 2: I like to picture it that way.
- 14:32Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I prefer that it helps lighten the mood
- 14:36Speaker 1: a little bit. Then, in late nineteen seventeen, Nelson enlisted
- 14:41Speaker 1: in the US military, but he deserted mere weeks later. No,
- 14:48Speaker 1: I know, I'm so surprised. That this guy is just
- 14:51Speaker 1: not a stand up in rollie.
- 14:57Speaker 3: I don't think his mental health could take it, like
- 15:00Speaker 3: I think it would have broken him.
- 15:03Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's interesting that you say that, because
- 15:06Speaker 1: if he is not indeed already broken. Yeah, then in
- 15:10Speaker 1: another seemingly compulsive pattern, which I will say, there's a
- 15:14Speaker 1: lot of compulsive patterning in this, he would alternate between
- 15:21Speaker 1: the Army and the Navy enlisting before again deserting duty
- 15:26Speaker 1: a handful of weeks later. Why unclear.
- 15:32Speaker 2: There's a lot of why.
- 15:35Speaker 1: He was said to have done this four times, each
- 15:38Speaker 1: time using a different alias. So Clark Clark, I mean
- 15:44Speaker 1: it is okay, like brain injury stuff like you don't
- 15:49Speaker 1: maybe always know why you're doing what you're doing, or
- 15:52Speaker 1: you make do things that don't make sense, or Yeah,
- 15:57Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of things in his
- 15:59Speaker 1: back background that might lend to an explanation, not excusing
- 16:07Speaker 1: any of his behavior, but might help us to understand
- 16:13Speaker 1: why certain things occur. During a brief stint in the
- 16:17Speaker 1: US Navy in nineteen eighteen, his erratic behavior led to
- 16:21Speaker 1: being committed at the Napa State Mental Hospital, the first
- 16:26Speaker 1: of several stays there. In fact, a Navy psychologist recorded
- 16:31Speaker 1: that he was quote living in a constitutional psychotic state,
- 16:37Speaker 1: which feels like a very loaded statement.
- 16:39Speaker 2: Oh that didn't sound good.
- 16:42Speaker 1: No, it turns out it's wildly negative. It's largely bad.
- 16:48Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 16:49Speaker 1: William Pritchard, a psychiatrist at the NAPA Hospital who conducted
- 16:53Speaker 1: a preliminary interview in May of that year, wrote of
- 16:57Speaker 1: him he had seen faces, heard music, believed people were
- 17:02Speaker 1: poisoning him, and reported hearing voices whispering to him to
- 17:07Speaker 1: kill himself.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Shit.
- 17:11Speaker 1: He also complained of occipital headaches like basically migraines. It
- 17:18Speaker 1: like specifically refers to a type that happens when nerves
- 17:24Speaker 1: are pinched or hurt, and it has like a very
- 17:27Speaker 1: specific way of like traveling through your head and neck.
- 17:32Speaker 1: It sounds not great, but also not entirely unfamiliar.
- 17:37Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I think I could probably uh feel that.
- 17:40Speaker 1: One, Yeah, you know, and then the fainting spells and
- 17:44Speaker 1: dizziness not ideal, no, but you know, if you're having
- 17:49Speaker 1: the occipital headaches, I feel like feeling like you're about
- 17:52Speaker 1: to faint or that you're dizzy. That kind of tracks
- 17:57Speaker 1: as if the hospital staff wasn't already dealing with enough
- 17:59Speaker 1: stretch and strained between the influenza pandemic at the time
- 18:03Speaker 1: and a whole ass world war because nineteen eighteen wor
- 18:08Speaker 1: stuff World War One and then the flu pandemic.
- 18:12Speaker 2: Damn.
- 18:12Speaker 1: So it was. It was rough times. They were stretched
- 18:15Speaker 1: a bit thin. Nelson escaped at least three times before
- 18:20Speaker 1: hospital staff simply stopped attempting to locate him.
- 18:24Speaker 2: Oh my god.
- 18:27Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is some old time. You should. They
- 18:30Speaker 1: were likely a little bit overwhelmed at the time, after all,
- 18:34Speaker 1: you know, kind of a few things going.
- 18:36Speaker 2: On, like, we can't keep chasing this guy.
- 18:39Speaker 1: No, like we simply we simply calmed. His frequent escapes
- 18:45Speaker 1: earned him the nickname Hudni among the staff, which, honestly,
- 18:50Speaker 1: it's far too whimsical a nickname for this very clearly
- 18:53Speaker 1: on whimsical bitch.
- 18:55Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 18:56Speaker 1: At twenty one. In March of nineteen nineteen, he was
- 19:00Speaker 1: arrested in Los Angeles for burglary under the name Ferrell,
- 19:05Speaker 1: a slight respelling of his own birth surname. And this
- 19:09Speaker 1: time I take personal offense because it is spelled my
- 19:13Speaker 1: way and I'm not into it. It's also either the
- 19:19Speaker 1: laziest alias in his career, thus far or an early
- 19:23Speaker 1: sign of how carelessly he'd come to move through the
- 19:26Speaker 1: world under different names, because it's like, it's not even
- 19:29Speaker 1: that far off from what your actual original last name was.
- 19:34Speaker 2: Yeah, and you change like one letter or.
- 19:37Speaker 1: Right, like come on, man. This time he apparently had
- 19:42Speaker 1: no intention of serving his time. He spent approximately five
- 19:47Speaker 1: months in Los Angeles County jail before escaping from custody
- 19:51Speaker 1: there as well.
- 19:53Speaker 2: So Houdini, yeah.
- 19:56Speaker 1: I mean concerning that, not only is he escaped being
- 20:00Speaker 1: from mental health facilities and listen, it was a very
- 20:03Speaker 1: different time, but also from jail. Yeah, so I mean
- 20:10Speaker 1: certainly not the only dude that was, you know, doing
- 20:14Speaker 1: that do but come on, uh, he was a slippery one.
- 20:21Speaker 1: He was formally discharged from the Navy in absentia in
- 20:25Speaker 1: May nineteen nineteen, roughly a year after his original commitment
- 20:29Speaker 1: to the mental health hospital that came about due to
- 20:33Speaker 1: his service. So they were like, yeah, I guess I
- 20:38Speaker 1: think he's done now.
- 20:39Speaker 2: Yeah bye.
- 20:42Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody was just like bye. His hospital file was
- 20:46Speaker 1: closed with a no indicating he had and this is
- 20:50Speaker 1: a quote improved. I guess improvement is something we should
- 20:55Speaker 1: always consider in relative terms, but literally what improved.
- 21:01Speaker 2: How they said he had improved.
- 21:04Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh I improved you mean escapade?
- 21:08Speaker 3: Yeah, then sure, but like just change up the wording
- 21:13Speaker 3: so it sounds good, right, right. We don't have we
- 21:18Speaker 3: can't get him back.
- 21:20Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's better for us, so we view that
- 21:23Speaker 1: as an improved.
- 21:24Speaker 2: Yeah, he improved.
- 21:25Speaker 1: He's it's much improved for us around here, that is true. Okay.
- 21:34Speaker 1: Under yet another alias Evan Lewis Fuller, he took a
- 21:39Speaker 1: job as a janitor at Saint Mary's Hospital in San Francisco.
- 21:43Speaker 1: There he met Mary Martin. And the density of Mary's
- 21:49Speaker 1: in this section is a little rough, so let me
- 21:51Speaker 1: know if you need me to to repeat or explain.
- 21:56Speaker 2: Okay.
- 21:57Speaker 1: There he met Mary Martin, an administrative worker reportedly decades
- 22:01Speaker 1: his senior, old enough to be his grandmother. They married
- 22:06Speaker 1: in August nineteen nineteen, only lasting though this marriage mere
- 22:12Speaker 1: months of cohabitation.
- 22:14Speaker 2: Weird, been there. I can't imagine why.
- 22:17Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, sometimes you're in a relationship and it
- 22:20Speaker 1: turns out as soon as you move in together, everything
- 22:22Speaker 1: just implodes. Yeah, I get it.
- 22:26Speaker 3: Like, man, she's not baking me those cookies, no more, right,
- 22:31Speaker 3: I'm just I was.
- 22:32Speaker 2: Trying to think of other old lady things, right.
- 22:35Speaker 1: Very like grandma things. And she saw knitting my socks, right,
- 22:40Speaker 1: darning my socks.
- 22:42Speaker 2: I don't know why it's all on her. I'm just
- 22:43Speaker 2: being no, but you know what, it's the misogyny.
- 22:47Speaker 1: Well it's not even that though, because I think without
- 22:52Speaker 1: even realizing it, you might be sort of glomming onto
- 22:57Speaker 1: what is going to become like a really significant and
- 23:00Speaker 1: peace I don't even know how to explain it without
- 23:04Speaker 1: just saying his issues, whatever they might precisely be with
- 23:11Speaker 1: older women, that's going to be a significant factor in
- 23:17Speaker 1: the rest of this story. Oh no, okay, oh no,
- 23:22Speaker 1: yeah yeah. M Martin later testified that he had subjected
- 23:29Speaker 1: her to jealous rages, religious delusions, bizarre sexual demands, and
- 23:35Speaker 1: that he engaged in strange behaviors such as prolonged disappearances
- 23:39Speaker 1: from the home. And also he did this thing where
- 23:42Speaker 1: he would pour glasses of water over his toes like
- 23:46Speaker 1: it was a form of bathing.
- 23:48Speaker 2: Was he what's that? What's the thing that they do
- 23:51Speaker 2: the baptism?
- 23:52Speaker 1: He's baptizing right, yeah, and washing the feet of Christ
- 23:56Speaker 1: like that's sort of a biblical thing as well.
- 24:00Speaker 2: How did I don't.
- 24:01Speaker 3: Even get to the point of marrying him, is like,
- 24:04Speaker 3: how did he pretend to be normal enough to get married?
- 24:08Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, the thing is is that
- 24:11Speaker 1: people got married a lot quicker then, and it was
- 24:14Speaker 1: a lot easier. I think in these very short term
- 24:18Speaker 1: like courtships to hyde crazy.
- 24:21Speaker 3: It's just it's hard for me to picture him doing that.
- 24:24Speaker 3: But I mean, obviously he did well enough.
- 24:27Speaker 1: Right, yeah, somehow to some degree. But I mean pouring
- 24:33Speaker 1: glasses of water over your toes as a form of bathing,
- 24:37Speaker 1: I just sir, this is a Wendy's Like.
- 24:40Speaker 2: At least he didn't have dirty feet.
- 24:43Speaker 1: I well, I don't know. It's debatable. I feel like
- 24:48Speaker 1: we can't really pull it that thread anymore.
- 24:50Speaker 2: But I'm okay with it, you know, babe. He bathe
- 24:53Speaker 2: as often as you need.
- 24:55Speaker 1: I you know. I just worry though that based on
- 24:58Speaker 1: the description, like are the toes the only thing being bathed?
- 25:03Speaker 2: I just clean?
- 25:06Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I have follow up questions. I don't
- 25:09Speaker 1: know that I want the answers to them, but they're
- 25:12Speaker 1: they're rattling around in there, so for what that's worth.
- 25:20Speaker 1: On May nineteenth, nineteen twenty one, Nelson posed as a
- 25:24Speaker 1: Plumber to enter the home of twelve year old Mary
- 25:28Speaker 1: Summers at fifteen nineteen Pacific Avenue in San Francisco. Once inside,
- 25:35Speaker 1: he attempted to sexually assault the young girl in the basement.
- 25:40Speaker 1: Fortunately for her, when she screamed, her younger brother came
- 25:43Speaker 1: to her aid, oh, I know, and she's only twelve,
- 25:50Speaker 1: so I don't know what these young brother I know,
- 25:55Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly how old he was, but either way,
- 25:58Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, he probably saved her life.
- 26:03Speaker 2: Yeah, or saved its some trauma at least at minimum.
- 26:07Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I don't think that it was
- 26:12Speaker 1: going to end well, and I don't think that she
- 26:14Speaker 1: was intended to survive that encounter. So he was arrested
- 26:20Speaker 1: hours later. While writing the trolley because you know the
- 26:24Speaker 1: San Francisco dy have the trolley. It's again. It just
- 26:28Speaker 1: really it sounds so whimsical and old, tiny and cues,
- 26:33Speaker 1: and then the backstory is just so not that but.
- 26:39Speaker 3: Just Houdini on a trolley. I didn't just try to
- 26:42Speaker 3: murder a twelve year old girl.
- 26:44Speaker 1: Right exactly? Yeah, pay no attention to the man behind
- 26:50Speaker 1: the curtain. Following this offense, a competency hearing found him dangerous.
- 26:57Speaker 1: M h no dah. He was then recommitted to the
- 27:01Speaker 1: NAPA State Mental Hospital. I'm sure, much to the chagrin
- 27:05Speaker 1: of any of the current staff familiar with his previous antics.
- 27:09Speaker 3: They sent him back to the same place he kept
- 27:12Speaker 3: escaping from.
- 27:13Speaker 1: Yeah, can you imagine he's just gonna do it again.
- 27:18Speaker 2: This guy's dangerous. I know what to do with him.
- 27:22Speaker 1: Yeah, let's send him back to the place that he
- 27:25Speaker 1: kept escaping from, famously kept escaping from.
- 27:29Speaker 2: He already knows how to get out. Yeah, oh my god. Okay.
- 27:34Speaker 1: Before his eventual discharge in nineteen twenty five, he would
- 27:38Speaker 1: escape twice more from the.
- 27:39Speaker 2: Hospital only twice.
- 27:42Speaker 1: Only twice. You know, that's an improvement over his previous
- 27:46Speaker 1: escape record.
- 27:48Speaker 2: He was tired.
- 27:49Speaker 1: I guess The following year would mark the beginning of
- 27:52Speaker 1: his known killing spree. So everything up to this point
- 27:57Speaker 1: is really kind of like his low key background. It's
- 28:02Speaker 1: really just like the years when he was I would say,
- 28:06Speaker 1: more of a nuisance than anything.
- 28:10Speaker 2: Yeah, but definitely like his escalation.
- 28:15Speaker 1: Yes, as we go through, I think escalation is so
- 28:19Speaker 1: interesting to kind of examine in the context of all
- 28:24Speaker 1: of his crimes and the story because you can really
- 28:27Speaker 1: see it laid out. It's very interesting and I'll try to,
- 28:30Speaker 1: you know, kind of touch on it throughout. But Nelson's
- 28:34Speaker 1: victims were overwhelmingly middle aged women. Apparently, I'm like, is
- 28:40Speaker 1: that mommy issues, grandma issues, ex wife issues, all of
- 28:44Speaker 1: the above. He frequently targeted female landlords or women operating
- 28:49Speaker 1: boarding houses, as well as women that were showing their
- 28:52Speaker 1: own properties currently on the market for sale. He'd scanned
- 28:56Speaker 1: the classified section for room rental and houses for sale
- 29:00Speaker 1: to locate victims. Arriving well dressed, carrying a clearly worn
- 29:06Speaker 1: Bible exhibiting a polite, relatively calm demeanor hardly made him
- 29:11Speaker 1: seem like much of a threat, effectively disarming his victims,
- 29:16Speaker 1: or most of them.
- 29:18Speaker 2: That Bible man.
- 29:20Speaker 1: I know, not the Bible man couldn't be him. Witnesses
- 29:24Speaker 1: from multiple cities where he would eventually strike described him
- 29:28Speaker 1: as mild mannered, charming, soft spoken on first impression, and
- 29:33Speaker 1: chillingly unusually well versed in scripture and all of it's terrible.
- 29:40Speaker 1: But for some reason that part really unsettles me. Yeah,
- 29:44Speaker 1: it does, because it's like so clearly at odds with
- 29:50Speaker 1: what he actually is. I think, Yeah, that's why it's
- 29:55Speaker 1: it's uncomfy. Once alone with the victim inside the home,
- 30:00Speaker 1: Nelson would strangle her, typically with an item from her
- 30:04Speaker 1: own environment a cord rag scarf for another article of clothing.
- 30:11Speaker 1: He then sexually assaulted the corpse before concealing the victim's
- 30:16Speaker 1: body and stealing small items from the victims, such as cash, clothing,
- 30:20Speaker 1: or jewelry. In some cases, among them victims in Portland.
- 30:25Speaker 1: He went to unusual lengths to conceal the victim's body,
- 30:30Speaker 1: like using steamer trunks or putting them in the attic.
- 30:34Speaker 1: He would then travel, often hitchhiking or stowing away on
- 30:37Speaker 1: freight trains, sometimes hundreds or even thousands of miles before
- 30:41Speaker 1: killing again.
- 30:43Speaker 2: I just have had a horrified look on my face
- 30:45Speaker 2: this whole time.
- 30:46Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't always translate for audio, but sometimes
- 30:51Speaker 1: you can feel the weight of silence, and so hopefully
- 30:54Speaker 1: that's what everyone is.
- 30:56Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 30:57Speaker 1: I'm also going to say here that even as a
- 31:00Speaker 1: true crime podcaster, one truly can hit the limit with
- 31:04Speaker 1: certain words, and in this case specifically, I'm referring to
- 31:09Speaker 1: rape or sexual assault. The descriptions of the crimes committed
- 31:13Speaker 1: against individual victims, by and large, do not deviate from
- 31:18Speaker 1: the MO I've just described. As I was drafting, if
- 31:22Speaker 1: I had not sort of agreed amongst me, myself and
- 31:27Speaker 1: I that we didn't need to repeatedly list off all
- 31:33Speaker 1: of the different aspects of his EMO, I was like,
- 31:36Speaker 1: we're just going to be saying rape or sexual assault
- 31:40Speaker 1: like dozens of times.
- 31:42Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm okay with that.
- 31:44Speaker 1: So aside from one victim who completely breaks the mold
- 31:48Speaker 1: on his m you can assume that, even if I
- 31:52Speaker 1: don't specifically state it, Unfortunately, his victims were, with almost
- 31:57Speaker 1: zero exception, violated it this way after death. It's so ikey,
- 32:03Speaker 1: and the after death part is particularly yes, icky, But
- 32:09Speaker 1: in a way, I'm like, God, at least maybe they
- 32:13Speaker 1: weren't experiencing that.
- 32:16Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's true.
- 32:18Speaker 1: That is the only thing that I find that I
- 32:21Speaker 1: can sort of try to grasp that as Okay, it's
- 32:28Speaker 1: not great, but it helps me feel a little bit better.
- 32:32Speaker 3: Like one thing didn't add to the horrific murder they experienced,
- 32:37Speaker 3: like the things they went through already.
- 32:39Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
- 32:41Speaker 1: Physical descriptions from witnesses were consistent enough that newspapers had
- 32:46Speaker 1: a working sketch of him well before capture. A dark
- 32:50Speaker 1: stocky man with a receding hairline, protruding lips, long arms,
- 32:56Speaker 1: and unusually large hands. These features led the San Francisco
- 33:01Speaker 1: Press to nickname him the gorilla Man and gorilla killer.
- 33:07Speaker 2: Oh.
- 33:08Speaker 1: Others tracking his westward then eastward migration called him the
- 33:13Speaker 1: dark strangler.
- 33:15Speaker 2: I like gorilla man, better.
- 33:19Speaker 1: Put a pin in that you might not love it.
- 33:23Speaker 1: Witnesses who had brief encounters with him repeatedly sighted his
- 33:27Speaker 1: dark piercing eyes as his most memorable feature. So the
- 33:34Speaker 1: racism of it all am I right?
- 33:38Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I guess.
- 33:40Speaker 1: Because these gorilla comparisons weren't invented for white men like
- 33:45Speaker 1: Earl Nelson, but could be used to dehumanize him very
- 33:49Speaker 1: effectively all the same. And while there's a large part
- 33:56Speaker 1: of me that is okay with dehumanizing a violent, sexual
- 34:01Speaker 1: serial killer, these racist tropes that had been used against
- 34:05Speaker 1: black men for decades, if hundreds of years, really were
- 34:09Speaker 1: simply being repurposed because his behavior didn't match up with
- 34:14Speaker 1: white society's own self image. So by committing the crimes
- 34:19Speaker 1: that he did, it was like he gave up his
- 34:23Speaker 1: whiteness in a way.
- 34:25Speaker 3: Ew yeah, interesting, I was just like he's got big
- 34:29Speaker 3: hands and these, Harry, I get it.
- 34:31Speaker 1: Right, right, And in that sense, yes, if it weren't
- 34:36Speaker 1: for some of like kind of the very pointed language
- 34:41Speaker 1: that was like it. They were clearly drawing parallels to
- 34:46Speaker 1: how this type of like racist charged language was applied
- 34:51Speaker 1: in other situations. I would say, oh, great, yeah, it's
- 34:55Speaker 1: just but it's very rarely that simple and certainly not
- 35:00Speaker 1: in this era. It it's a little ichy, and by
- 35:03Speaker 1: that I mean a lot ichy actually. But at the
- 35:07Speaker 1: peak of his spree, Nelson averaged one murder roughly every
- 35:11Speaker 1: three weeks. In the ten days between June first and
- 35:15Speaker 1: June tenth of nineteen twenty seven, he killed at least
- 35:18Speaker 1: five women across three cities and one international border.
- 35:23Speaker 2: Not so many, I know, you know.
- 35:26Speaker 1: And the other thing, it's just occurring to me too,
- 35:29Speaker 1: because I was like, I feel like I have to
- 35:31Speaker 1: caution you, like no, you don't like the gorilla thing.
- 35:34Speaker 1: And I'm like, it's so telling that like through a
- 35:37Speaker 1: more modern lens and like not really thinking about it
- 35:42Speaker 1: in those like you're not having the mindset of like, oh,
- 35:46Speaker 1: I'm drawing this parallel to him being like, you know,
- 35:49Speaker 1: an African American man making them into like an animal.
- 35:54Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 35:56Speaker 1: So it's like because I don't know, it's just that
- 35:59Speaker 1: just sucks. It just sucks. Yeah.
- 36:04Speaker 3: I mean his other nickname though, too was like what
- 36:07Speaker 3: the dark Strangler?
- 36:08Speaker 2: That too cool?
- 36:11Speaker 1: Right, exactly? Yeah, I don't want to give him the
- 36:14Speaker 1: cool factor. I know. Yeah, there's you know, honestly, there's
- 36:20Speaker 1: just there's kind of no winning with giving them sort
- 36:24Speaker 1: of a moniker. It feels like, but can we just
- 36:28Speaker 1: call them all shithead? Right? Shithead number one, shit right
- 36:32Speaker 1: number ten? Yeah, shithead number or you know, shithead of
- 36:37Speaker 1: Cincinnati or you know. Yeah. Nelson's first known murder took
- 36:44Speaker 1: place in San Francisco at twenty thirty seven Pierre Street,
- 36:49Speaker 1: where he murdered sixty year old Clara B. Newman on
- 36:53Speaker 1: February twentieth of nineteen twenty six. To gain entry, he
- 36:57Speaker 1: posed as a prospective tenant using the name Roger Wilson
- 37:01Speaker 1: before strangling and sexually assaulting her. Post mortem, he hid
- 37:07Speaker 1: her body in a vacant apartment within the house her nephew,
- 37:12Speaker 1: Merton Newman, who I'm surprised I got that out on
- 37:16Speaker 1: the first take. Merton Newman feels like a little bit
- 37:18Speaker 1: of a tongue twister. I don't know why. Merton Newman Senior,
- 37:23Speaker 1: who lived on the second floor of the boarding house,
- 37:26Speaker 1: saw Nelson as he was leaving through the front door
- 37:29Speaker 1: and would later positively identify him, making him the only
- 37:33Speaker 1: person to see Nelson within literal moments of any of
- 37:38Speaker 1: his crimes. Wow, most people, because there are a number
- 37:43Speaker 1: of people that were able to identify him. Most people
- 37:46Speaker 1: were called seeing him in the area or seeing him
- 37:50Speaker 1: talking to a victim. But it was like in within
- 37:54Speaker 1: a period of like days or hours leading up to
- 37:58Speaker 1: a murder. It was never like right before or right after.
- 38:04Speaker 1: So it was just a very direct connection to that
- 38:08Speaker 1: particular murder.
- 38:10Speaker 2: That is so sad for him to have seen it,
- 38:13Speaker 2: not in like how long did it take for anyone
- 38:15Speaker 2: to notice that she was like something was wrong with her?
- 38:19Speaker 1: I mean, I have to imagine, since he lived in
- 38:21Speaker 1: that same building and you know that's a family member,
- 38:26Speaker 1: she ironically was probably identified as you know, being like
- 38:30Speaker 1: missing or that something was off, maybe quicker than some
- 38:34Speaker 1: of the others. Over the next handful of months, Nelson
- 38:39Speaker 1: went on to kill four additional women in California. March second,
- 38:43Speaker 1: nineteen twenty six in San Jose. He strangled sixty three
- 38:48Speaker 1: year old Laura Bale with a silken cord whilend so
- 38:52Speaker 1: tightly it actually embedded in the skin of her neck.
- 38:57Speaker 2: That terrific.
- 38:59Speaker 1: Yeah, acting suspiciously while similarly dressed to the real killer
- 39:04Speaker 1: got another man, Joe Casssek I'm guessing on the pronunciation
- 39:10Speaker 1: of the last name. It got him arrested for the crime. Initially,
- 39:15Speaker 1: whoa I know, But the Austrian native was eventually cleared.
- 39:19Speaker 2: Thank goodness.
- 39:21Speaker 1: I know that was far from being a guarantee at
- 39:24Speaker 1: that point in history. It's kind of hard to reverse
- 39:28Speaker 1: the tide on something like that. Back in his stomping
- 39:32Speaker 1: grounds on June tenth of nineteen twenty six, he claimed
- 39:36Speaker 1: his next victim, Lillian Saint Mary, also sixty three, before
- 39:41Speaker 1: moving on to Santa Barbara. That's where he carried out
- 39:46Speaker 1: the murder of Olie Russell on June twenty fourth, nineteen
- 39:50Speaker 1: twenty six, who was also strangled with a cord. Still,
- 39:57Speaker 1: this case was different as it was the first that
- 39:59Speaker 1: police explicitly connected to the earlier murders. And we are
- 40:04Speaker 1: going to talk about this again because it is wild
- 40:08Speaker 1: the synchronicity of like that particular case and like how
- 40:14Speaker 1: it just how it plays out. Okay, So Allie Russell,
- 40:19Speaker 1: that's a name that we're going to come back to.
- 40:23Speaker 1: As the summer drew to a close, he claimed another
- 40:25Speaker 1: California victim on August sixteenth, nineteen twenty six. It's a
- 40:31Speaker 1: week from today.
- 40:33Speaker 2: Yea, yeah.
- 40:36Speaker 1: Mary c nesbit in Oakland before heading north. She had
- 40:41Speaker 1: been strangled with a towel and raped in the bathroom
- 40:44Speaker 1: of a vacant apartment, where her husband, Stephen discovered her body.
- 40:50Speaker 2: Oh god.
- 40:52Speaker 1: Unfortunately, it feels like the overwhelming majority of these victims
- 40:57Speaker 1: were discovered by people that have been uniquely scarred by
- 41:02Speaker 1: that experience, like family members. And I cannot even fathom.
- 41:09Speaker 1: I just I and I refuse to imagine.
- 41:13Speaker 2: No one should have to see that. That's no.
- 41:16Speaker 1: Witnesses reported having seen a stranger with a peculiar smile
- 41:21Speaker 1: outside the building. The mail carrier had taken note of
- 41:25Speaker 1: seeing that same weird smiling. Weirdo, man, I.
- 41:30Speaker 2: Don't like that description at all.
- 41:33Speaker 1: Nope, No, how did you put it? He's a stranger
- 41:38Speaker 1: with a peculiar smile.
- 41:41Speaker 2: What's a peculiar smile?
- 41:43Speaker 1: Like I I think that it's all in the eyes.
- 41:49Speaker 1: In that case, I think he.
- 41:50Speaker 2: Had like I can't you do it because I'm.
- 41:54Speaker 1: Not, Because you can't it's hard to replicate.
- 41:58Speaker 2: Oh my god.
- 42:00Speaker 1: Yeah, the mail carrier had taken note of seeing him
- 42:03Speaker 1: lingering for about a.
- 42:04Speaker 2: Week just smiling.
- 42:06Speaker 1: Yeah, just hanging out, smiling creepily. Mary's husband, stephen Nesbitt,
- 42:12Speaker 1: was held in jail for two days before being cleared.
- 42:16Speaker 1: So that seems to be kind of a pattern as well.
- 42:19Speaker 1: It's like family members are finding them and then also
- 42:22Speaker 1: of other individuals, oftentimes the husband or another man for
- 42:28Speaker 1: whatever reason that is unfortunately falsely accused.
- 42:32Speaker 2: That's so sad.
- 42:34Speaker 3: I know, and I get why, but it's still like, right,
- 42:37Speaker 3: you had to find her and then also get like accused. Right,
- 42:41Speaker 3: was this the same guy that found his wife?
- 42:44Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, he found her and then was initially believed
- 42:50Speaker 1: to be the perpetrator, which again, like statistically, we like
- 42:54Speaker 1: we understand that, like that is so often the case,
- 42:57Speaker 1: but yikes. By mid October of nineteen twenty six, Nelson
- 43:02Speaker 1: had made his way to Portland, where the killing of
- 43:05Speaker 1: his first victim in the state, thirty five year old
- 43:09Speaker 1: Beta B. Withers, marked multiple slight deviations from his normal
- 43:14Speaker 1: mo o. To start, she was obviously much younger than
- 43:18Speaker 1: a lot of the other women that he had previously killed,
- 43:22Speaker 1: but he also seemingly went to greater lengths to conceal
- 43:26Speaker 1: her body after the murder than he frequently did. It's
- 43:31Speaker 1: not the only time, but he's certainly not going to
- 43:35Speaker 1: this much trouble every time. He had stuffed her into
- 43:38Speaker 1: a steamer trunk in the attic of her home, beneath
- 43:41Speaker 1: the clothing stored inside.
- 43:45Speaker 2: Oh my god.
- 43:47Speaker 1: Sadly, these measures of concealment did not prevent the discovery
- 43:51Speaker 1: of her body by her fifteen year old son. No, no,
- 43:57Speaker 1: I know, I know. On the date of her murder,
- 44:01Speaker 1: October nineteenth, she had met with her beau at the
- 44:04Speaker 1: time and her son for lunch. Witnesses established that she
- 44:10Speaker 1: had seemed cheerful as she worked in her flower beds
- 44:12Speaker 1: after returning from lunch that afternoon, likely because she believed
- 44:17Speaker 1: the room she'd been advertising for rent for weeks finally
- 44:21Speaker 1: had a take her and it was.
- 44:23Speaker 2: The wrong person, it sure was.
- 44:26Speaker 1: Her son had been concerned when he returned home only
- 44:30Speaker 1: to find that his mother didn't seem to be there.
- 44:33Speaker 1: Even in some fashion, expressing concern that she may have
- 44:37Speaker 1: taken her own life so prior to the promise of
- 44:40Speaker 1: renting the room, her finances had actually begun to look
- 44:45Speaker 1: quite dire, so he thought, Wow, maybe things are so
- 44:49Speaker 1: bad that she killed herself. It was only after a
- 44:53Speaker 1: thorough search that her body had been recovered, appearing as
- 44:56Speaker 1: though she might have been smothered to death, the least
- 45:00Speaker 1: referring to it as an I shit you not the
- 45:03Speaker 1: strangest suicide they had ever seen.
- 45:07Speaker 2: No, because it's not.
- 45:12Speaker 1: Right.
- 45:12Speaker 2: Clearly, she didn't put herself.
- 45:15Speaker 1: Oh my god, she didn't put herself in a trunk
- 45:19Speaker 1: in the attic. Okay, but okay, we're going to spend
- 45:24Speaker 1: a little bit more time on this than a lot
- 45:26Speaker 1: of I couldn't, I couldn't not. So here we are
- 45:32Speaker 1: far from the ppb's proudest moment, but with a caveat admittedly.
- 45:37Speaker 1: Two days after the murder occurred, a story titled in
- 45:41Speaker 1: all caps, poetry Inspires Suicide in Trunk appeared on the
- 45:48Speaker 1: front page of The Oregonian that confirms some of the
- 45:52Speaker 1: most bizarre details of the suicide theory. Police initially believed
- 45:58Speaker 1: suicide because Withers had a motto or poem on her
- 46:02Speaker 1: wall about putting troubles in a strong box, which is
- 46:10Speaker 1: very eerie. The police literally interpreted this as her taking
- 46:15Speaker 1: the phrase to mean she should stuff herself into a
- 46:18Speaker 1: trunk to die. We might need to talk about symbolism,
- 46:24Speaker 1: metaphor simile, you know, give them a little bit of
- 46:27Speaker 1: a toolbox for understanding those things.
- 46:32Speaker 3: Man, I need to like look around my room and
- 46:33Speaker 3: see what's on my walls because someone might interpret it
- 46:36Speaker 3: is if I die.
- 46:38Speaker 1: Right. Continuing on the train of taking everything very literally,
- 46:43Speaker 1: they reconstructed the scene by having someone else get into
- 46:47Speaker 1: the trunk to demonstrate that self inflicted smothering was physically possible.
- 46:52Speaker 1: So there was some due diligence on that piece of things.
- 46:57Speaker 1: A corner's jury was convened on October TI, twenty eighth,
- 47:00Speaker 1: resulting in an even split. Half believed her death was
- 47:04Speaker 1: a suicide, albeit certainly strange, and the other half were
- 47:10Speaker 1: equally certain it was a homicide. Before you know, a
- 47:14Speaker 1: pattern sort of becomes clear emerges if you will. So
- 47:18Speaker 1: to be fair, it wasn't just the cops that were
- 47:21Speaker 1: tricked into considering the theory of suicide. And here's the
- 47:25Speaker 1: part that kind of it bugs me in a way
- 47:29Speaker 1: about this. It's I wonder whether that was Nelson's intent.
- 47:34Speaker 1: That's perhaps a little bit harder to say, Like did
- 47:37Speaker 1: he see that on her wall and go, oh, I know,
- 47:42Speaker 1: I'll stuffer in a trunk and they'll think it's suicide.
- 47:45Speaker 1: Maybe that's far fetched.
- 47:46Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think. I don't. I think maybe,
- 47:50Speaker 2: if anything, he saw.
- 47:51Speaker 1: That on the wall and inspired him, inspired him to
- 47:55Speaker 1: do that.
- 47:56Speaker 2: Maybe, But I think it was just a coincidence.
- 48:00Speaker 1: I kind of yeah, I kind of leaned that direction
- 48:03Speaker 1: as well. But something about that is just like, ugh,
- 48:06Speaker 1: this is so weird. It's given all of my hebes
- 48:10Speaker 1: the GBS. Nelson hadn't waited long to seek out his
- 48:15Speaker 1: next victim while in Portland. He followed up Beta's murder
- 48:20Speaker 1: the very next day, October twentieth, with another heinus crime,
- 48:24Speaker 1: when he attacked fifty nine year old Virginia Ada Gray
- 48:28Speaker 1: Grant of East twenty second Street in a vacant property
- 48:33Speaker 1: that she owned. Can we just take a moment to
- 48:37Speaker 1: respect I love the four names. Yeah, Virginia Ada Gray Grant.
- 48:43Speaker 1: Her body was discovered behind the homes basement furnace and
- 48:49Speaker 1: her death was initially misattributed to heart failure. She did
- 48:54Speaker 1: have a known health like a heart condition, and it
- 48:58Speaker 1: did seem like, you know, maybe she hadn't been the
- 49:00Speaker 1: most well. So I feel like in some of these cases,
- 49:05Speaker 1: it's not totally unreasonable. It's just unfortunate that there were
- 49:09Speaker 1: like sort of extenuating circumstances or other factors that sort
- 49:15Speaker 1: of maybe led people astray at first, is all. Also, though,
- 49:21Speaker 1: it was noted that some of her valuable jewelry she
- 49:23Speaker 1: always wore was missing, so that that tips scale, I
- 49:26Speaker 1: think as well.
- 49:27Speaker 2: For sure.
- 49:28Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, well, she didn't die and then steal
- 49:33Speaker 1: her own jewelry. Now it's unclear which crime occurred first,
- 49:39Speaker 1: but that very same day, Missus M. D Lewis of
- 49:44Speaker 1: the Selwood neighborhood became a survivor of the Dark Strangler,
- 49:50Speaker 1: WHOA Nelson arrived at the home that she was showing,
- 49:56Speaker 1: muttering house for sale as he.
- 49:58Speaker 2: Brushed past her.
- 50:00Speaker 1: Okay, very weird and it's only going to get weirder,
- 50:05Speaker 1: and I can totally see why she was like, uh, nah,
- 50:10Speaker 1: I don't want none of that.
- 50:12Speaker 3: So he like wasn't being chill and like nah, tricking
- 50:15Speaker 3: people like he usually does.
- 50:17Speaker 1: Not super chill. Yeah, which is interesting because I think,
- 50:22Speaker 1: you know, if he made his way to uh, our
- 50:25Speaker 1: good friend Virginia first, and this is him just kind
- 50:29Speaker 1: of becoming unhinged and the escalation ramping up, then maybe
- 50:34Speaker 1: it makes sense that he didn't have any chill, or
- 50:37Speaker 1: you know, maybe he went to missus M. D Lewis
- 50:41Speaker 1: first and he realized he was getting a little sloppy,
- 50:45Speaker 1: and so that's why he you know, got back in
- 50:48Speaker 1: line before he approached Virginia. I don't know, it's hard
- 50:53Speaker 1: to say. It's just an interesting aspect of it, with
- 50:56Speaker 1: you know, not knowing which one occurred. First, he shouted
- 51:01Speaker 1: from upstairs for her to come look at what's wrong
- 51:04Speaker 1: with this door? Then when she refused from the basement,
- 51:09Speaker 1: he called her, look what's wrong with this furnace? No, dude,
- 51:14Speaker 1: why do you keep trying to get me to go
- 51:16Speaker 1: to other rooms that are more isolated in the house
- 51:20Speaker 1: and point out things that are wrong, Like just make
- 51:23Speaker 1: a note. I'm not gonna follow you.
- 51:26Speaker 2: No, your penis is gonna be out or some shit.
- 51:29Speaker 1: Yeah, like you're already acting odd. Come look at this phoenix,
- 51:33Speaker 1: don't look at the Oh my God, that's so scary.
- 51:38Speaker 1: Missus Lewis retreated outside and called for him to come
- 51:42Speaker 1: see the flowers she'd planted. She's like, oh, do you
- 51:44Speaker 1: can play this game? Come see this shit that's outside
- 51:47Speaker 1: where everybody can see us.
- 51:50Speaker 2: Get out of my house. Yeah, yeah, smart.
- 51:52Speaker 1: He responded to hell with your flowers as he left.
- 51:57Speaker 1: She survived by refusing to enter the rooms he directed
- 52:00Speaker 1: her too. I mean, just because she trusted her gut. Really. Unfortunately,
- 52:06Speaker 1: just a few blocks away, Mabel H. Fluke thirty seven
- 52:10Speaker 1: would not be so lucky. She was holding an open
- 52:14Speaker 1: house for the home she and her husband had previously
- 52:16Speaker 1: shared before his passing two years prior. Ever, since she
- 52:21Speaker 1: had been living with her parents in Saint John's and
- 52:24Speaker 1: renting out the home where they had lived. She wanted
- 52:28Speaker 1: to visit her brother in Independence, Oregon, and was hoping
- 52:31Speaker 1: to find a new tenant before making the trip. Seemingly
- 52:35Speaker 1: aware of her plans, her parents weren't initially concerned when
- 52:39Speaker 1: she did not return home. She was gone overnight and
- 52:43Speaker 1: they were like, that's fine. She's trying to fix up
- 52:46Speaker 1: the house and get it ready and get a new
- 52:48Speaker 1: renter in there. When her father did search the marital
- 52:52Speaker 1: turned rental property. Finding no trace of her, he phoned
- 52:56Speaker 1: the police to report her missing. Police discovered her body
- 53:00Speaker 1: in a dark corner of the attic at the rental
- 53:03Speaker 1: property two days later, on October twenty third.
- 53:07Speaker 2: The attics. Yeah, like, how do you even get like that?
- 53:12Speaker 3: Seemed so hard to get a body up in an attic.
- 53:16Speaker 1: And I just don't you know, in some of these cases,
- 53:19Speaker 1: like it's impossible for us to really.
- 53:21Speaker 2: Know, Like maybe he lured her up lied.
- 53:25Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I mean it's possible. That seems to be
- 53:29Speaker 1: kind of part of his mo is, sort of luring
- 53:32Speaker 1: people where he wants them so that he can get
- 53:35Speaker 1: them from the right angle. That has a lot to
- 53:37Speaker 1: do with it because of the strangulation of it all.
- 53:42Speaker 1: She had been strangled with a dresser scarf and her
- 53:46Speaker 1: jewelry had been stolen. Thankfully, these facts of the case
- 53:50Speaker 1: helped investigators to quickly determine this was not yet another
- 53:55Speaker 1: bizarre suicide in the city of Roses. So you know
- 54:01Speaker 1: they got one they fingered it out, Yeah, and dresser scarf.
- 54:09Speaker 2: I was like, what is that?
- 54:11Speaker 1: Essentially it just looks like a table runner, but people
- 54:15Speaker 1: used to put them on their dressers in their bedrooms
- 54:19Speaker 1: and stuff that would protect it from like if you
- 54:22Speaker 1: have a cup of coffee or a glass of water.
- 54:25Speaker 1: It protected it from all kinds of things, because, of
- 54:28Speaker 1: course all of the furniture was made of wood. In fact,
- 54:31Speaker 1: according to local historian J. D. Chandler, it was the
- 54:35Speaker 1: day after the discovery of Mabel's body that Patrolman Russell
- 54:40Speaker 1: of the Portland Police Bureau became the first to suggest
- 54:44Speaker 1: that the recent spate of murders in the city might
- 54:48Speaker 1: be the work of the Dark Strangler, who had been
- 54:51Speaker 1: tormenting Californians along the coast for months.
- 54:55Speaker 2: So they put it together even though it was a
- 54:57Speaker 2: different state.
- 54:58Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Well, and here's how I told you this
- 55:02Speaker 1: was going to come back. This shit is wild. He'd
- 55:05Speaker 1: received a letter from his cousin, George Russell, living in
- 55:10Speaker 1: Santa Barbara at that time, whose wife, Allie Russell, had
- 55:17Speaker 1: herself met her dreadful end at the hands of the strangler.
- 55:22Speaker 3: Oh no, oh my god. So otherwise they might not
- 55:26Speaker 3: have known.
- 55:27Speaker 1: Yeah, they might not have fully made that connection. It's
- 55:32Speaker 1: hard to say, whoa because you could have an awareness
- 55:37Speaker 1: of these crimes occurring in California and think like, well,
- 55:41Speaker 1: that's especially back then, it's like, oh well that's that's
- 55:45Speaker 1: not here, you know.
- 55:47Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 55:48Speaker 1: Nelson would then return to his home state once more
- 55:51Speaker 1: and strike again. On November eighteenth, nineteen twenty six, A
- 55:56Speaker 1: friend who had visited the victim, fifty six year old
- 55:59Speaker 1: Anna Edmunds of San Francisco, recalled seeing her speaking to
- 56:04Speaker 1: a strange man in her parlor regarding a business deal
- 56:08Speaker 1: related to her home, so assuming that she was probably
- 56:13Speaker 1: trying to sell it or like maybe rent on a room.
- 56:16Speaker 1: The following day, missus H. C. Murray, a pregnant twenty
- 56:22Speaker 1: eight year old woman of Burlingame, California, was attacked by
- 56:26Speaker 1: a man posing as a potential buyer while showing her home.
- 56:30Speaker 1: But perhaps Nelson was getting a little bit sloppy, because
- 56:34Speaker 1: she too survived. I mean, thank goodness, pregnant, she later
- 56:41Speaker 1: told reporters, I realize now that he was trying to
- 56:44Speaker 1: get me to look up towards the ceiling so that
- 56:47Speaker 1: he could get behind me and grab my throat. Ugh,
- 56:52Speaker 1: absolutely chilling.
- 56:54Speaker 2: Mama bearer instinct in her right.
- 56:58Speaker 1: Well, and I will say, if you're pregnant, And I
- 57:01Speaker 1: don't know how far along she was, but she's probably
- 57:04Speaker 1: just like, you know what, I am so sick of
- 57:07Speaker 1: men and they're just so entitled. And he's like, look
- 57:11Speaker 1: over here, look at this, and she's like, you know,
- 57:14Speaker 1: at the last time that I listened to a man,
- 57:17Speaker 1: that's how this happened, as she points to her belly.
- 57:25Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's like that movie trope of like
- 57:27Speaker 1: you did this, don't worry about what's going on back here, right,
- 57:32Speaker 1: pay no attention.
- 57:34Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man, that's so scary though.
- 57:38Speaker 1: I know. As the holidays approached, Nelson showed absolutely no
- 57:44Speaker 1: sign of slowing down, and he'd made his way back
- 57:47Speaker 1: to the Pacific Northwest again. Oh okay, yep, he's a
- 57:53Speaker 1: rambling man. On November twenty third, nineteen twenty six, just
- 57:59Speaker 1: two days before Thanksgiving, he struck down forty eight year
- 58:02Speaker 1: old wealthy widowed Seattleite Florence Fifthian Monks inside her home.
- 58:09Speaker 1: What a name I know, I mean, And she sounds
- 58:14Speaker 1: like seatite, my god, or and like definitely also sounds
- 58:19Speaker 1: like a wealthy widow, doesn't she.
- 58:21Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 58:23Speaker 1: Her body was discovered stuffed behind the basement furnace by
- 58:26Speaker 1: the Holmes caretaker. Oh I know, in Portland, Oregon, just
- 58:33Speaker 1: a few short hours away, her stolen jewelry would resurface.
- 58:38Speaker 1: Oh yeah, cat, you know how they liked to take
- 58:44Speaker 1: trophies Like that's kind of I mean not all of them,
- 58:48Speaker 1: but most of them, and probably secretly all of them.
- 58:52Speaker 1: In late November, still in Portland, Nelson rented a room
- 58:57Speaker 1: at Sophia Yates's lodging house on Third Avenue, using the
- 59:02Speaker 1: alias Adrian Harris. He spent Thanksgiving with Yates and her
- 59:07Speaker 1: other lodgers, offering to pay for the entire holiday dinner
- 59:11Speaker 1: and impressing them as polite, soft spoken and intelligent, but
- 59:16Speaker 1: also something of a religious fanatic. You don't say.
- 59:22Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it didn't go yet, right.
- 59:26Speaker 1: He gave Yates and another lodger, Emily Crawford, pieces of
- 59:31Speaker 1: jewelry as gifts, later identified as items stolen from Florence
- 59:37Speaker 1: monks in Seattle.
- 59:39Speaker 3: That is, it's like gross to think about him giving
- 59:42Speaker 3: away like a dead woman's jewelry, but like, why are
- 59:46Speaker 3: you even giving jewelry to these women that you just met?
- 59:50Speaker 1: Well, and you know what I got to say, Normally
- 59:52Speaker 1: I'd be like, these women are trash because they are
- 59:56Speaker 1: going to live to make him regret whatever that was
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: like I don't know why he did this, but he does,
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: like he certainly comes to regret it. This is so
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: fucking funny. It's like Jerry Jerry Yates received nicer gifts
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: than Crawford. The two women argued about it, and Harris
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: quote unquote burst into the room and said, I'm going
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: to beat it. You two will have the police up next,
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: then fled, leaving two days rent unused.
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: Huh.
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: They were arguing about who got nicer gifts from him,
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: and He's like, that is weird.
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: Much.
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, okay, weird behavior on their part,
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: but at the same time, like there is a not
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: insignificant chance that like it might have saved one or
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: both of their lives. So yeah, like stay petty.
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: I guess he was. I just can't like, what was
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: he trying to do that don't know, I don't they
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: don't understand.
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: I don't get it. By the end of the holiday weekend,
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: Nelson was right back at it. That Monday, November twenty ninth,
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: Blanche Myers forty eight, was apparently immediately uneasy upon meeting Nelson,
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: telling the landlady just prior to the attack, I didn't
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: like his looks very much. His looks, apparently off putting
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: enough for her to question him about his drinking habits.
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: His weird dead eyes and right peculiar smile.
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: Yeah, of course she was right to be suspicious. At
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: the time, she was having lunch with a gentleman friend,
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: but she closed the deal, returning to her midday meal
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: with four dollars in rent paid by Nelson for the
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: room and unfortunately fatal transaction. Later, she was strangled with
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: a handkerchief while showing him an upstairs room. Sadly, in
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: I just I hate it. Sadly, her son was the
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: one to discover her body stuffed under the bed. That
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: bed became significant as police were able to recover fingerprints
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: from the iron bedpost, marking the first significant physical evidence
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: in the case.
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: That's great that.
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: That piece is that rocks that keep touching stuff?
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: Right?
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: Yeah, ideally just like stop touching ladies, you know, but like, please,
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: while we're here in this situation, at least there's that.
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: The Oregonian reported the third floor of the Portland Police
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: Bureau became a and this is a quote veritable madhouse
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: of citizen tips. During this time, the Portland Police Bureau
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: issued a public warning cautioning landladies against showing rooms unaccompanied.
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: Their acknowledgment of the situation was blunt. The statement said,
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: I do not wish to unduly alarm the people of Portland,
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: but there is no denying the situation is grave. This
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: marked the end of his time in the Pacific Northwest,
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: but he remained a free man as he traveled on
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: to the Midwest.
- 1:03:30Speaker 3: Oh, he finally got out of there. He's like, gosh, shit,
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: they're catching.
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: On right exactly now. If you've made it this far,
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: you're probably thinking, holy shit, I am about like chest
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: height deep into this story. And that's true, but there's
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: still a lot left to go. And then also a
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: tarot reading. So it turns out this one's a two parter.
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: It's long.
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just finding that out for ourselves for certain
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: now in this moment as we record it. So, uh, surprise.
- 1:04:06Speaker 3: So we kind of lied to at the beginning when
- 1:04:08Speaker 3: we said there's a tarot read in every episode.
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: I kind of intended that this might be a single episode,
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: Like more often than not we just do like a
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: single taro reading in that case, but this is just
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: it's so massive and it'll only make it that much
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: more massive to do two separate tarot readings. So we're
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: gon we're gonna cut it there, and then we'll come
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: back in part two and do the tarot reading. Maybe
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: I will just do my own private, little personal reading
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: and we won't do the full like interpretation in the episode,
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: but maybe I'll share that so we can throw them
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: off the scent. We can still post a tarot reading
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: to the socials, but they'll have no idea what's coming.
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'm down for that.
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: Should we say goodbye to the creepy people?
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's leave them hang in here?
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: Yeah, you got this, guys. We'll see you in a week.
- 1:05:12Speaker 2: In there exactly.
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking of, how creepy day. We'll
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: see you next Thursday.
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: Unless you have weird eyes and a peculiar smile.
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: Well, I mean actually that that definitely means we will
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: see him again next next Thursday. Oh no, I thought
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: we were okay, all right, yeah,