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Huddle Up | Jags Alumni & NFL Legends at OTAs, Team Confidence Improving · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up. Jaguars. Senior writer John Osher, NFL
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  Speaker 1: Network analyst and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter J. P.
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  Speaker 1: Shaderick bring you the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts right now. Welcome into another edition, the
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  Speaker 2: final edition of the twenty twenty six offseason of Huddle
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  Speaker 2: Up with Bucky Brooks J P. Shaddick with John Oser.
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  Speaker 2: We're at the Hondai Studios, the Miller Electric Center, Bucky
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  Speaker 2: Brooks in Los Angeles, California. We record this on the
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  Speaker 2: final day of school. Bucky, Good afternoon.
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  Speaker 3: What's happening, guys. I can't believe it's the last last
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  Speaker 3: day of school? Like I mean, are we having everybody
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  Speaker 3: walk around and sign our U books and make sure
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  Speaker 3: that we say our goodbyes and how great it was
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  Speaker 3: to know you until next year?
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  Speaker 4: Is that what we're doing?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? I did okay on finals. I didn't do that
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  Speaker 5: great biology, but I did fine in my strengths. P
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  Speaker 5: Basic came, oh yeah, yeah, it would last return next year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. He got a lot of good Uh. Hey, have
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  Speaker 2: a good summers.
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  Speaker 5: I did, I did, I got a lot of uh. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: The girls write in the yearbook saying that I was
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  Speaker 5: glad to be friends with you.
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  Speaker 4: Oh I like that.
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  Speaker 2: I like that.
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  Speaker 3: And if they a little hard behind it, Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and then you're cooking with guess.
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  Speaker 2: John's got a lot of friends, a lot of friends
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  Speaker 2: friend the friend zone there. Uh, let's get to this
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  Speaker 2: offseason program coming to the close. We the Jaguars this week.
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  Speaker 2: We saw three OTA practices kind of reduced in time.
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  Speaker 2: There was a lot of seven on seven work of
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  Speaker 2: passing camps. How they build this thing, Bucky, So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they did. Offensive and defensive lines were off on their
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  Speaker 2: own during the seven on seven periods this week and
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  Speaker 2: you know what, it's a big piece of what they
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  Speaker 2: want to do. So and you can't have any contact,
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  Speaker 2: so they mixed up a little bit in the final
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  Speaker 2: week here with the past camp.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I kind of like how they finished because in listen
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  Speaker 3: to everything that Liam has said, he was like, this
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  Speaker 3: time of the year, when we don't have pass on
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  Speaker 3: you can't really establish the running game, so let's spend
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  Speaker 3: our time on things that carry over. So it was
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  Speaker 3: the passing game and situations and those things, and the
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  Speaker 3: timing of the passing game, particularly between the quarterback and
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  Speaker 3: the catchers, matters made on the same page, making sure
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  Speaker 3: everyone is in the right spot when Trevor's ready to
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  Speaker 3: throw it. All of those things, and I will say this,
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  Speaker 3: I'll say Brian Thomas Jr. All the reports, all the videos,
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  Speaker 3: everything that I'm seeing, everything that I'm hearing about him
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  Speaker 3: is re establishing who he was and who he thought
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  Speaker 3: he was going to be after his first season. The
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  Speaker 3: highlight plays just keep coming. And when you think about this,
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  Speaker 3: wide receive a corps as they continue to grow in
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  Speaker 3: chemistry and connectivity with the quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: I think there's a lot to be excited about.
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  Speaker 5: Is there something bes Bucky that look, I don't know
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  Speaker 5: how like what BTG did on the field, it's overcome August, right,
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, so, I do think there's a lot of value,
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  Speaker 5: whether it's true or not, to having him walk in
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  Speaker 5: here in August believing that he's ready and right and
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  Speaker 5: reset right, Like, even if it's just psychological, If he's
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  Speaker 5: feeling good about himself, feeling good about the work that
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  Speaker 5: he did, I think that can go a long way.
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  Speaker 5: And if that happened in this four weeks, mission accomplished.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, mission is accomplished. If that happened.
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  Speaker 3: And I'll say this as as a young player. Coach
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  Speaker 3: has talked about you're never making a play. You never
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  Speaker 3: make a play in the game that you haven't made
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  Speaker 3: in practice. And I heard Liam talk maybe last week.
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  Speaker 3: He talked about it all happens in routine. If you
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  Speaker 3: start making plays in practice, those things show up in
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  Speaker 3: the game. There's no such thing as the quote unquote
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  Speaker 3: gamer that all of a sudden delights on, we flipped
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  Speaker 3: the switch and you make plays. So the confidence that
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  Speaker 3: Brian has started to kind of build over the course
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  Speaker 3: of the all season, it absolutely will care you know,
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  Speaker 3: into training camp, because his self esteem, his feeling about
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  Speaker 3: himself is different than maybe it was at parts of
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  Speaker 3: the year last year.
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  Speaker 5: I also think Liam with the schedule, and I don't
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  Speaker 5: want to put words in his mouth because he didn't
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  Speaker 5: need me to do that, but I think he probably
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  Speaker 5: like last year, there was so much to get done,
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  Speaker 5: so much to put in, and he talked about it
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  Speaker 5: a little bit in another another subject this week of
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  Speaker 5: it's easy to establish the culture because everybody's listening to you,
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  Speaker 5: you have full attention. Last year, this year, a lot
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  Speaker 5: of guys have been there and they worked hard to
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  Speaker 5: pay attention to be there. I think switching up the
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  Speaker 5: schedule and bringing these guys in meeting the legends, meaning
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  Speaker 5: Mojo and Mercedes, Lewis and Fred have the mandatory last week,
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  Speaker 5: you know, you have tweaks of voluntary and then mandatory
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  Speaker 5: that kind of shifts things up a little bit and
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  Speaker 5: gets your attention. And then in that last week that
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  Speaker 5: could kind of been a even for the guys who
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  Speaker 5: are trying to pay attention, a little bit of a honor.
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  Speaker 5: You bring out something new, You bring in Mojo and
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  Speaker 5: you know, guys that maybe these guys have heard of
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  Speaker 5: and watched play or know something about, and so it
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  Speaker 5: kind of pops the energy a little bit. I think
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  Speaker 5: he Liam might get the feeling gets through these OTAs,
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  Speaker 5: knows they're important, but really can't wait till the pads
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  Speaker 5: go on, and it's all sort of prelude to that.
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  Speaker 5: I think this new schedule is a little bit of
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  Speaker 5: a way to get through what human nature would tell
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  Speaker 5: you these guys have a little bit of a tough
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  Speaker 5: time getting through OTAs.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it is about changing the schedules to
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  Speaker 3: kind of keep their attention and their energy up. You
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  Speaker 3: can get into this routine where you're doing them undane things,
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  Speaker 3: and so you kind of meld it in your cruise
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  Speaker 3: through those things, and so some of the attention to
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  Speaker 3: detail falls off when you have new things where you
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  Speaker 3: don't know what's next.
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  Speaker 4: You have to stay engaged and look.
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  Speaker 3: I think for Liam only being second on the job,
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  Speaker 3: I think his coaching maturity continues to impress me in
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  Speaker 3: terms of just kind of understanding the team that he
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  Speaker 3: has and what he needs to do to get this
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  Speaker 3: team to the next level. He just is kind of
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  Speaker 3: wise beyond his years of experience on the job.
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  Speaker 5: I think he really works at that last part. JPA. Sure,
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  Speaker 5: it's easy when setting a schedule. I think we all
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  Speaker 5: do it. It's such a schedule oriented league. It's easy
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  Speaker 5: when you set your schedule to kind of say, okay,
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  Speaker 5: well I did that last year and do this year,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and okay, we did huddle up and so
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  Speaker 5: we're gonna roll out, We're gonna have Bucky on, he's
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  Speaker 5: gonna do his thing. So you sort of look for
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  Speaker 5: ways to stay fresh. That can be harder than it sounds.
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  Speaker 5: I think I think everybody listening has that sort of
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  Speaker 5: routine would find that I think Liam this offseason has
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  Speaker 5: done a really good job of making sure that he
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  Speaker 5: didn't sort of sink into routine and let things get stale,
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  Speaker 5: which in a routine based league which this is, that
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  Speaker 5: can be easy to do. JP. I know there's an
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  Speaker 5: interrupted you.
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  Speaker 2: No doubt about that. I mean, that was kind of
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  Speaker 2: the whole idea is to keep people engaged and in
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  Speaker 2: that last week that can be maybe you're looking ahead
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  Speaker 2: a little bit to the time off or whatever, and
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  Speaker 2: keep guys coming because it is voluntary time again in
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  Speaker 2: the last three practices of this offseason program.
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  Speaker 5: I hope they listen to these guys because you've talked
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  Speaker 5: to I haven't talked to. I mean, there were many
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  Speaker 5: guys in here for the teams I haven't talked to
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  Speaker 5: my career.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the ladies. Here's the lists of guys that
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  Speaker 2: were here or were scheduled to be here. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: see all of them, but this was the original list.
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  Speaker 2: Devin mccorty, Jason mccordy, DeMarcus Ware, Hall of Famer AJ Green,
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  Speaker 2: Fred Taylor, Maurice Johns, Drew, Mike Waffle, who's a longtime
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  Speaker 2: defensive line coach in the league, Alejandro Villanueva, Marquise and
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  Speaker 2: Mike Pouncy, Corey Linsley former center for the Packers, Jimmy Smith,
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  Speaker 2: Paul pits Leslie and Benjamin Watson will tight end. So
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  Speaker 2: that's a pretty darn good list. And yes, Mercedes Lewis,
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  Speaker 2: who just finished his twenty year in the National Football League,
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  Speaker 2: he is a free agent. I caught up with him
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  Speaker 2: after practice earlier this week about staying in the league
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  Speaker 2: and staying relevant for so long.
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  Speaker 6: It's really up to you. Like you can lead a
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  Speaker 6: horse to water, but you can't make him drinking. And
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  Speaker 6: for me, I just wanted to be great and I
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  Speaker 6: want to be my personal best at whatever it is
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  Speaker 6: that I was doing in that day, and I was
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  Speaker 6: serious about that and I'm still serious to this day
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  Speaker 6: about it.
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  Speaker 4: Like it's uh.
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  Speaker 6: I look at life in windows, right, and you have
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  Speaker 6: the ability to either minimize it or expand it. And
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  Speaker 6: for me, it's just about what I could do every
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  Speaker 6: day to expand that window. And that's what I've done.
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  Speaker 2: Mercedes Lewis, I don't, I don't. I'm gonna guess the
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  Speaker 2: game is probably not over for it. We'll see what
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  Speaker 2: happens is we.
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  Speaker 4: Get want to get another year, you don't want to
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  Speaker 4: play some more.
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  Speaker 2: If you stay ready, you don't have to to get ready, Bucky,
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  Speaker 2: And it's a great message for some of these guys,
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  Speaker 2: like this guy has done it longer than any tight
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  Speaker 2: end in NFL history, and yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he has done it.
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  Speaker 3: But I think the advice that he gives is, look, man,
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  Speaker 3: you can only dream about having the kind of career
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  Speaker 3: that he had twenty years.
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  Speaker 4: You just don't get that in the league. It just
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  Speaker 4: doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 3: But when he talks about expanding those windows, what are
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  Speaker 3: the things that you can do, And we always talked
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  Speaker 3: about around the building, the more you can do, like
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  Speaker 3: creating value for yourself, so learning multiple positions, being able
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  Speaker 3: to understand the entire system of offense, where if I
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  Speaker 3: play wide receiver, I can play X and Z and
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  Speaker 3: F and I can just kind of jump in in
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  Speaker 3: a pinch, being a dB that can play nickel and
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  Speaker 3: outside corner.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe safety in a pinch.
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  Speaker 3: Most of the players on the team are going to
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  Speaker 3: be role players in some capacity, So how can you
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  Speaker 3: expand your role to make it where Man, you're indispensable.
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  Speaker 3: They can't get rid of me. They need me because
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  Speaker 3: I can do so many different things. I think when
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  Speaker 3: young players learn that and they master that, it does
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  Speaker 3: give them an opportunity to extend their careers and play
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  Speaker 3: much longer than the average.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: A wrinkle to that is that what you're describing Bucky
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  Speaker 5: is often the trait of guys who sort of had
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  Speaker 5: to grind their way into the league. Mercedes was a
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  Speaker 5: first round pick. Yeah, and that's uncommon attitude. And I
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  Speaker 5: didn't know Mercedes. I got here in twenty eleven. I
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  Speaker 5: think he was drafted in two thousand and six, which
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  Speaker 5: is kind of funny because he had already sort of
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  Speaker 5: played a career for most guys before I met him,
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  Speaker 5: and now he's played fifteen sixteen more years. It's crazy.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't play. But any player you talk to when
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  Speaker 5: you start, when you start reeling off non I mean,
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  Speaker 5: you tell non quarterbacks, hey, this guy played ten years.
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  Speaker 5: I think you can get to that. They all kind
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  Speaker 5: of laugh. It's like, well, yeah, maybe ten, but yeah, twenty.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, when you're twenty three, you can't even see
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  Speaker 5: forty one. Like, so you're talking about committing to something
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  Speaker 5: that's hard, painful, it's a grinder, hair for it's no
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  Speaker 5: fun preparing in the off season. Mercedes was one of
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  Speaker 5: the best I've ever been around in terms of that
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  Speaker 5: still lose, it's not fun, So credit to him and
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  Speaker 5: a good guy for I think a lot of people
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  Speaker 5: listening to this show are hardcore Jags fans. They've probably
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  Speaker 5: had occasion to hear him interviewed, to maybe meet him,
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  Speaker 5: because he did a lot in the community of news here.
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  Speaker 5: You know, just a solid guy.
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  Speaker 2: He's forty two years old and it's not like it's
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  Speaker 2: some non contact position and he is a blocking tight
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  Speaker 2: end and that's really what he is now, Bucky. It's
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  Speaker 2: amazing that he's still thinking about doing it at twenty.
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  Speaker 5: And I'll bet he plays this year. Maybe not in camp,
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  Speaker 5: but I'll bet he plays somewhere this year.
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  Speaker 2: He'll be a point where somebody needs a guy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Now, him and MJD like being linked together from the
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  Speaker 3: time of UCLA and then with the Jaguars and then
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  Speaker 3: no disrespect as my guy MJD would saying, but it's
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  Speaker 3: different looking at Mercedes and then looking at MJD kind
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  Speaker 3: of walk around the.
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  Speaker 4: Field a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: So I to talk to my guy and to make
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  Speaker 3: sure that my guy's taking care of himself, because Mercedes
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  Speaker 3: looks like he can hav an extra down, a couple
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  Speaker 3: of extra reps. I don't, I don't, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if we can put the pads on
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  Speaker 3: the same MJ. We need this.
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  Speaker 4: Fred looks like he still can kind of bounce around
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  Speaker 4: a little bit. M J D not as much.
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna let you handle out.
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  Speaker 2: Greg Jones was here today as well, by the way
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  Speaker 2: I saw him at the whole backfield was here.
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  Speaker 4: Today, the whole backfield and the speak of the.
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  Speaker 2: Guy you wanted to walk off the bus first. Greg
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  Speaker 2: goes that guy.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I can't imagine. I can't even imagine having
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  Speaker 3: those two guys in the backfield. And they convinced Greg
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  Speaker 3: Jones a tailback and floor to state, Oh you go
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  Speaker 3: up in the lead block, buddy, beautiful. But no, those days, man,
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  Speaker 3: I love that little run that they had. They were man,
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  Speaker 3: they were really really good football team.
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  Speaker 4: They could run the football.
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  Speaker 5: I'll tell you what you talk about this team having
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  Speaker 5: a tough identity. Greg Jones played for this team. He
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  Speaker 5: was about his you know, so, uh bet they liked
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  Speaker 5: talking to him this week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to have those guys different perspectives from
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  Speaker 2: players who've had Most of those guys have had success
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  Speaker 2: in the league in one way or another. Some are
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  Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame, some went to multiple Pro Bowls,
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  Speaker 2: some won Super Bowls, some played longer than others, and
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  Speaker 2: it's just a good different perspective to have first time.
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  Speaker 2: Liam Cohens tried this kind of thing, and he credited
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the staff around the Jags organization for
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  Speaker 2: reaching out and making different guys talking them into it
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  Speaker 2: really to come do this, which is.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think it's really cool for guys like you know,
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  Speaker 5: Fred's been around in Mojo, but I think it's it's
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  Speaker 5: easy for fans not to see when you change regimes
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  Speaker 5: and you change coaching staffs and gms, and there's been
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  Speaker 5: a lot of change in this organization. They changed ownership
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  Speaker 5: in twenty eleven. Just because the logos the same doesn't
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  Speaker 5: necessarily mean that players feel as welcome as they should
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  Speaker 5: you would think they would, but at different organizations it
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  Speaker 5: can change and that kind of thing can get lost.
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  Speaker 5: So it's great to see them having Pause back and
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  Speaker 5: mojor back and making sure these guys know, hey, you're
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  Speaker 5: welcome to be a part of it.
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  Speaker 2: You're important, and like Mercedes has been playing, so it's
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  Speaker 2: a little different, but he's not right now. But it's
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  Speaker 2: the first time he's been in the building since he
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  Speaker 2: left the building as a player.
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  Speaker 5: Different building, the way he played. Yeah, and it did
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  Speaker 5: your handflofts on that.
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  Speaker 2: He told me that. It's like, yeah, it didn't really
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  Speaker 2: end like I wanted it to here and maybe there
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  Speaker 2: was a little tension because of that over the years,
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  Speaker 2: but he never really had an opportunity because he's been playing.
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  Speaker 2: But it was really good to see him back around.
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  Speaker 2: There are a lot of people, a lot of behind
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  Speaker 2: the scenes folks that have been around for a long
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  Speaker 2: time and dealt with him on a day to day basis.
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  Speaker 2: Same with freddie T and Maurice and those guys. But hey,
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  Speaker 2: that's just part of it. It gets some of these
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  Speaker 2: guys back in the building and get that perspective.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it usually guess what, it's a careers usually don't
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  Speaker 5: end well, retires from you. So that's why it's important
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  Speaker 5: for a team after after the after the blood is cooled,
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  Speaker 5: whatever that you know. I'm sure Bucky has a catchphrase
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  Speaker 5: for that, but you know so, but it is important
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  Speaker 5: for teams to remember, okay, well some time has passed,
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  Speaker 5: now it's okay to make sure guys feel like they
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  Speaker 5: should be back in the fold.
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  Speaker 3: So very cool now and I do love it when
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  Speaker 3: I see former Jaguars back and even though the legends
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  Speaker 3: included guys who hadn't done the uniform, I do think
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  Speaker 3: it is important. And uh, some of it goes back
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  Speaker 3: to two things and watching these championships over the course
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  Speaker 3: of the week.
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  Speaker 4: First, you talk about the Knicks winning.
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  Speaker 3: You saw all the old Nicks in the building, and
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  Speaker 3: you could talk about culture and being able to pass
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  Speaker 3: it down. Well, that's how extended goes from former players
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  Speaker 3: talking to the younger players about a this is how
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  Speaker 3: we get down, this is what this place means to us,
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  Speaker 3: and how you guys now have to care and protect it.
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  Speaker 3: The same thing when you saw the Hurricanes and Rob
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: Brendamore kind of being able to establish that as a
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: guy who had won that chip and being able to
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: take it with the young people.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: I do feel the energy in the building is so.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: Much different than it has been in the past, and
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: I think everyone around the city feels that that positivity,
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: that buzz and so it's the right time to be
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: excited about where the Jags are going.
• 16:17
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• 16:38
  Speaker 2: had a chance to visit with some prospective season ticket
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: members and I told them again. I told them again, Johnny,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: you said it. I said it. It's the most intimate
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: environment in the history of Jaguars football this season at
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: the Bank. This is the perfect time to get it.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: And for people who've been around it, and a lot
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: of fans have been through the through the Wars, if
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: you will at that place and have been around a
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: long time. It's last year was the last iteration of
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: the Bank in full capacity. But this is gonna be
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: the last time, and it's it's old, but it's your old, gal,
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: if you will. So it's the last time to go
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: see a game and be a part of the environment
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: before it all changes for twenty eight. So if you
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: treasure those memories, which a lot of people do. Should
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: be a cool year, and they're gonna be good.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, they're gonna be really good and hopefully better than
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: a year ago. Who the AFC Championship.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: Came over the year that'd be awesome, could be could
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: be really awesome, That be fun in an intimate setting,
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: would be incredible.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: And you know a big reason that would happen is
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: the quarterback play. Trevor Lawrence obviously moving along in his career.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: You sat down with him this week. We'll hear from
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: him now about carrying the momentum of a full off
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: season on the field into training camp here in twenty.
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: Six, continue to build off of what we started here.
• 18:02
  Speaker 7: I know we're going to be separate and guys are
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: going to be all over the place, and I think
• 18:06
  Speaker 7: it's an important time. Obviously. It's it's such a short break.
• 18:10
  Speaker 7: You can't really take time off. In my opinion, you
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: might take a little bit of time off throwing just
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: to kind of reset a little bit, but gonna be
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: back to work pretty much right away. But it's it's separate,
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: so I think we have more time to work on
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: individual things that we need to work on for me, footwork, strength,
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: getting in shape, all those things, staying in shape and
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: coming back ready to go in training camp so we
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: can pick back up right where we left off. I
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: think that's the biggest thing is not having to feel
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: like you take a little bit of a step back
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: from OTA's to training camp. You want to hit the
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: ground running, and I'm confident we have a really mature
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: team and guys are gonna be ready.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: That's the quarterback Trevor Lawrence from Monday, Johnny, you had
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: a chance to sit out with him later in the week.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's probably I'm not sure how many, two three,
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: four years I've had a chance to say, sit down
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: with him for the ozone podcast, which is probably the
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: time of the year that I spend the most time
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: with him, and where he's the relaxing Bucky he I
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: don't know how you define it. I don't know how
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: you tell people other than just watching it. But to me,
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: this is a guy who you talk about him being
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: over his feet, being in the moment, knowing what he
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: has to do. I'm not going to say comfortable because
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: it's not a comfort, it's not relaxed, but there's a
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: suredness of he knows what to do. He talked a
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: little bit about how he really feels like this staff
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: last year taught him, showed him how to prepare, how
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: to work. He really ratcheted up in terms of that.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: It's tough because he's always so good JP when you
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: talk to him. He's such a professional, But it's hard
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: to find spots of people ask well, what's different John, Well,
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: you know, I don't know exactly how to tell you
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: what's different, but he feels like a veteran in his prime,
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: in his full flower, if you will. And the thing
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: that we talked about at the very end of the podcast,
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure if it made the air or not.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: It was after we got off. He's twenty six years old. Still, yeah, right,
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: and that sound okay?
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: We go two.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: There are guys with nil coming to the league right now.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: We're twenty five and he's got six years in and
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: at the quarterback position. To have six years in of muscle, memory,
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: time on task, all that stuff and only be twenty six,
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: that's I don't overplay it. But there's a lot left here.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: I mean you talk about a lot left, Like when
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: I see Trevor not only the clips that I see
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: a practice, but when I'm out there, but when I
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: see him at the podium, it's probably the most confident
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: and the most comfortable that I've seen him. Like, I
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: feel like he's fully comeing to who he is. He's
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: comfortable with that. Uh, he's at a really really good spot.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: And last year did wonders for his confidence. But it's
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: not just like confidence that is up and down based
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: on oh, did I throw turnover touchdowns or did I
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: turn it over?
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Whatever?
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: But I just feel like he is beginning to think
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: that he's gonna be a really really good player for
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: a long time. But yeah, and when and when that
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: kicks in the thing that we've all been around, like
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: what we call franchise quarterbacks. The one thing that the
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: franchise quarterback does is he gives the entire team and
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: organization hope. And we're at that point where before we
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: would give him credit, where like, hey, we think he
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: can do it.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: But I do sense that there's a belief that, oh.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: No, no, we got a guy, so we're gonna be able
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: to be in a weekend week out because Number sixteen
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: is always gonna give us a chance to win.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: So I'm want to rip down the stretch last year.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: It gives you by confidence.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: Our way back in the JJP is probably before your time.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: I hated Dallas Cowboys, right, that was a big Washington fan.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: But Charlie Waters, who who I really hate. One set
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: of about Roger Stallbach, who I hate more than anybody
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: in the world to this day, he said, hey, as
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: long as you know he scarred me, Buck, I was
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: a young, impressionable fan, scarred me and uh, if I
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: met him today, I would I would tell him this anyway.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: I'm over it. And so but Charlie Waters, you say
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: about Starwick, he said, well, we're fine as long as
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: we got Superman over there. And that's really how I
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: think Trevor is at his first season, going in of
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: his teammates remembering now seeing it, going, oh, he's not
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: just a potential kid. He's not just a guy who
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: might be able to do it. He did it, and
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: he made plays consistently, and he made him above the
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: x's and o's. It wasn't just like, hey, you're playing
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: within the scheme. Uh. He did things that you're probably
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: can't draw up and in moments that mattered, you know,
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: I think about the one where he rolled out and
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: threw uh Tim Patrick, which Trevor mentioned as I probably
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: got one of his two or three favorite plays last year,
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: and even against Kansas City, which he kind of laughed
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: and he said, hey, I wish that wasn't the play
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: that most people remembered because I fell down twice, but
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: he fell down twice, but he made it happen. So
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: there's something about making the play in the moment. He's
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: always sort of had it. But I do think Bucky,
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: to your point, guys in this locker room now, after
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: a year of sort of letting that sort of sink in,
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: I do believe they look at it and go, hey,
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: we've always got a chance as long as this kid's
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: on the field. And I'm not sure you felt that
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: going into last year yet.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: No, no, I can't say you felt that. Now.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: We may have been trying to push him to be
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: that and saying, like you know, previous staff may have
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: been like, no, no, he's the quarterback or whatever. But those
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: things are earned, and those things are earned through your
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: deeds on the field. And last year, the last part
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: of the season, in particular, Trevor Lawrens balled at the
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: level where people could his teammates could see it, they
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: could sense it, they could feel it. And it's no
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: different than the feeling that we have about Parker Washington,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: the way that he.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Earned it on the field.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: These things in this environment that we're watching that we're
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: a part of.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: It is a bit of an an earn it type deal.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: When you earn the opportunity to get on the field,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: you get more reps on the field. We saw it
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: not only with Trevor in terms of how you play,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: but Parker Washington. We saw with Jari and Jones and
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Buster Brown. We've seen it with Antonio Johnson. There are
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: more names of guys that we've seen go on the
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: field with an opportunity and they kick the door down.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: And take advantage of the opportunity.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: And when it starts with your quarterback doing that down
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: the stretch, this team has a different feel because they
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: feel like, hey, we're good, but we're good, not because
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: we say we're good, but we have evidence to prove
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: that he we have a chance to be really really good.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Hey, backy, before we close, I was gonna ask how
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: many other Cowboys you hate? Like Ed too Tall Jones,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: you hate him Sandy White, Hey.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: Drew Pearson probably your favorite, Drew Pearson win a fan, but.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: Johnson, but Johnson juice and real hate.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: Golden Richards. I hated, uh, Bob Bruning. I hated he
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: played for the.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Team the Clint Longleig Thanksgiving game.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: Clint Longley is up there in the top five And
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: I was only nine and that game happened and I
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: was only watching the end.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: But uh, you hate Bob.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: Uh he was he had sort of retired out. I
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: got into it about seventy three before, and he was
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: a little before that. He had run into his uh
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: his late career difficulties. But you can that lineup. Cliff
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: Harris hated. Uh. Let's see, there were some obscure players
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: that I hated. Ron Springs didn't care much for, uh
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: so Danny White things. Although by the time Danny White
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: started starting my club, bear in mind, this is all memory. Step.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: I'm I'm in no way a fan of this team anymore.
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: But when you're growing up, Bucky, I'm sure there's still
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: you know, from the time you were in high school.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: Mm hmm, you're probably already a Carolina fan by that point, right,
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: probably to already following Carolina.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: Hoops from from birth.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: So probably hated there.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: Was no options were you around.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, probably hated n C State. Probably hated money too.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Oh I hate I hate all all that, just to
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: just to sight of it.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: That's what's so hard watching the hockey team, because the
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: hockey team is playing any thing, they got all that
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: red on it.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: I just despise it. I don't like anything about it.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: Didn't think much of Storm and Norman's life.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: I kidded, I was going back and forth with Jacoby
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Myers about n C State and like, why on ever,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: someone who was so smart, why would you end up
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: at a spot like that? It just doesn't even fit
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: your personality, Like why you end up there?
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: Like that's that's true. Jacoby does not seem like a
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: wolf pack.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Yet, not at all. Like it doesn't. It doesn't. It
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: doesn't make sense.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: But yeah, so I feel some of that disdain that
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: that you feel you talk about h Washington and the Cowboys.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: I guess in Jacksonville, I guess that's the feeling that
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: we have for the Titans. We hate everything about the
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: fans feel like like we just we just don't like
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: them at all. But I kind of feel like that's.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: What it's supposed to be, right, Yeah, I have a
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: long list of Auburn guys from the late eighties early
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: nineties that you know, we're good, We're good.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I feel like that, like fun for kidding obviously,
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: but yeah.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: I'm beginning to feel like that about the Texans, Like
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: I'm beginning to feel like a healthy dose of I
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: don't really like you guys, Like I can respect you know,
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: but I don't really like.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: It's disease al shire. Yeah, I've never done.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: With there's some something like that. But that's when it's fun.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: That's what sports and for robberies are good for sports.
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: To the point Demiko ryans I kind of like Dimiko
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: when he played don't think much of now. But but
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: I think if Demiko was here, he would laugh and say, yeah,
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: it's it's supposed to be about.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: Ye.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I mean you know what, I don't like you either,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: what he would say if you like, it's a two
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: way street.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: I'm used to that, though Demiko probably gets that less
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: than I probably.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Anyway, you're about to bring something for Sorry, I interrupted
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: you because I wanted to hear your other cowboys.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: What as we go into this because I don't know
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: when the first huddle up will be. We all know
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: what we like about the team going in. What do
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: you think what's the key? What are you going to
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: be looking for the most to say, Okay, they're gonna
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: be better in this significant area and that's really gonna
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: help that. I think it's gonna be the running game.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: I think they're gonna be more efficient running game. That's
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: what I'm looking for. I think that will be the
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: thing that really, if I had to pick something they
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: could be better at, that's really going to help them.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: I think efficiency first down running is going to be
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: a real hidden thing that people don't talk about it.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you had something you were thinking about.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Like a couple of things that is my My eyes
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: are on that part of the team early, the running game,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: from the offensive line, being able to dominate and control
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: the trenches because everything that Limb and those guys talk
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: about and the top teams, you got to be able
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: to win the line of scrims.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: You got to be able to win the trenches.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: But I'm gonna say this, and like sometimes I don't
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: won't say we've gloss it over, but were gonna have
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: these tier colored glasses. Look man, Travis DM was a
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: very productive back, and so someone has to prove to
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: us that they can carry and replace that production. For
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: all the things that he might not have been in
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: terms of a leaving yards on the field, he made
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: a ton of plays for the Jacks during this time,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: particularly last year when he had to compete to get
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: the job and the way he played. So I'm looking
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: to see who's going to seize that job. How are
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: we going to replace that production? How can we get
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: better in the run game? And then on defense? Who
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: are the other pass rushers right now? We're so dependent
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: upon forty one and forty four to do everything Walker
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: and Josh anz Allen. Who else is going to emerge
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: as a guy that is a viable option, a credible
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: pass rusher that can help them because look, to win
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: in this league consistently you're seeing teams attack the quarterback
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: in waves where you have four or five guys with
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: seven or more sacks that are being able to get
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: to is no longer Hey, we're going to found in
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: just one guy to get twenty and the other guy
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: to get fifteen. Who are the other guys that are
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: gonna make contributions, and the last part of it would
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: be the Devin Lloyd situation.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: Devin Lloyd is gone.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Bendrom Miller is a guy who is an outstanding vocal leader.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: He can play in the run game.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Despite the issues that Devin Lloyd may have had in
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: coverage or whatever, he made a ton of splash plays.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: When you when you lose five interceptions, and it's uncommon
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: for a linebacker to have that, But somebody has to
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: make up for those things for a team that is
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: living and dying on the turnover.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Who's gonna help us continue this turnover obsession?
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and all those are good points. Travis and Devin
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: are intriguing. You talk to people around here and they're convinced, Hey,
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: we've we've got the I would say, got this. You
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: don't getting that. We're gonna be fine with the guy.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: But I think everybody who's saying that would tell you
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: it's fine for us to say it and think it.
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: But those were five I having six year veterans right
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: or four or five year veterans who made plays in moments.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: The moment last year was not too big for those guys.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: Whether or not the Devin. You know, when you talk
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: to football people. Interceptions by linebackers are often written off
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: and I tend to do it too. It's a little
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: bit fluky. You're not going to get that all the time.
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: But he got them, and he got him in the moments,
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: and he got him when they mattered. Sure, now you
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: can't really identify a specific You know they're not going
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: to play Kansas City again next year. You're not going
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: to be on the goal line, so you can't say, well,
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: he didn't do it. Can Ventrel Can Chris Rodriguez? Can
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: Bay Shell Tutin make enough of those big plays and
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: splash moments because you Bucky's saying, you don't know when
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: they're going to come. But you've got to have guys
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: who do that. And those two guys did that, so
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: it's a fair thing somebody. It may not be their
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: replacement who replace that. By the way, maybe you know,
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: the tight end position may get more in the big
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: moment and offset the running back not getting you know whatever.
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  Speaker 5: But you have to replace those moments because they had moments.
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  Speaker 5: You don't beat San Francisco without Travis and Devon making
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: those plays. True, you know, there are certain games they made,
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: so you got to have somebody making the big plays.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's a big part of it.
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  Speaker 3: And you know you brought up Travis and it's so funny,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: man Like, normally we always would talk about a first
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: round pick and the immediate impact and what we need
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: from him, and we went thirty eight minutes without even
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: talking about Travis Hunter and what we hope he can provide.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: He is a bit of an X factor because it's weird.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Number two overall pick is almost treated like a bonus pick.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: But he is a bit of a bonus.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Pick this year because we didn't get a lot or
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: see a lot from him last year just due to
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: injury and those things. But man, if he can come
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: and be the guy that led the franchise to make
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: him the number two overall pick, how much better can
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: we be on each side of the ball if he's
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: able to just deliver some of the things that we
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: saw in Colorado.
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we talked to jpaida maybe on this show. You
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: went thirteen and four last year with a break or two.
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: Player two easily could have seen him in the super Bowl.
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure they would have been the favorite team
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. IM not sure they could have beaten
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: Seattle or LA. But they were as good as any
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: team in the AFC, and on a scale of potential
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: meaning one to one hundred, you got maybe ten out
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: of BTJ and Travis what they're capable of doing. And
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: I'm not criticizing those players by saying that Travis was heard,
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: you know, but you didn't get anywhere near the full tank.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: If those two guys are what we've seen them, wow,
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: So yeah, those two, you know, in addition to Bucky's
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: three things, I do think those two players, if they're
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: both eight touchdown guys, which doesn't really seem like a lot,
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: that gives you fifteen more touchdowns and you got last year,
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: and that's an easy bar for them.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: I think, look, it is it isn't is an easy bar.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: And so we just talked about being able to win
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: like in the little margins and the difference between going
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: from good to great and how tiny it is, just
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: the instrumental progress that you have to make. And I
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: still will say this, this could be a much better
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: team with the record that doesn't match what it was
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: last year, but they could be more dangerous and formidable
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: in the postseason knocking with it if we get there.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: I am excited to see how this team grows, but
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: more importantly, I'm excited to see how this team responds
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: to adversity early because that'll tell us a lot about
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: how this team can play and perform late.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: Well, maybe they won't ear.
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: One, there's always a storm. There's always a storm that's
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: gonna come. There's always gonna have to be something that
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: we have to overcome. There is always a storm.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: So preparing ourselves for that storm and having guys in line,
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: because look, we're not gonna go through the entire season
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: with everything is all gum drops and lollipops. There's gonna
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: be some things that we have to overcome to be
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: the team that we want to be.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: Even the seventy two Dolphins play with the back up quarterback.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: If you're going to do it, you have to overcome something.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this one position they don't have to
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: worry about. His long snapper Ross Mattis signed a two
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: year extension today for nearly four million dollars of new money.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: That's the that's my one regret man long snapping. He
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: didn't long snap snapping. I should have been man, you
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: play forever. You can do these things all you get
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: to be accurate. I'm down there on the sideline. I'm
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: in there. I'm in their way all the time. Like
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: between him Logan and Caim Little, I just feel like
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: I'm just running around trying to get away from the
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: either kicking net or the little area that's right behind there.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Because I will say his success is certainly due to
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: deliberate practice. I have never seen somebody spend more time
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: in game working on those snaps.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: But come out a free time though, right.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: I haven't seen I haven't seen any bad snaps, but
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: I mean spend a lot of time.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: He snapping makes somebody's down the field too and cover it.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: It's not like just a guy that snapping it. He'll
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: go do it anyway. Our next show is August nineteenth.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: It's a winn, I ask the previewl We'll be deep
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: into it, man, But this.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: This is the calendar. So I got to make sure
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: I had it down. I don't know if I had
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: it down before, but then make sure August nineteenth, I
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: have plans. Make sure I don't have anything going on
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: to day.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: Sure we have some plans to feel.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: But where are doing a show, whether you're there or not,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: it'll be on Wednesday, August.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: Huddle up, I'm gonna put it. Put it on a normal time.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Huddle up up. It means it's on this contract.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Now, there you go, Bucky. Have a fantastic summer. Always
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: a pleasure. We we did it again.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: Another season down fantastic Buck.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Thanks hey man, thanks man.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: This is this is great, guys. I mean, I don't
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: know what I'm gonna do. Like I guess I go
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: on vacation now I'm working on the golf game a
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: little bit. Maybe we can have the Huddle Up Invitational
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: that's true.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: To a group FaceTime.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: We could do a three point contest.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: Reeves can set it up.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: We'll just do this on our own.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, make sure you guys are rubbed Trempadia's shoulders
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: from me.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: I know it's Look, it's it's a tough time to
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: be Trent.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: It was a scene for those.
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: Big spurs FN and but he made sure he knew
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: what was going on.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't know like so so like JP.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you're privy to this, but we're
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: going to air Trumpity is dirty laundry out a little bit.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Trend is something that you should never do. Don't engage
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: in trashtore if that's not what you do. And so
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: what happened. The Spurs were playing pretty well doing one
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: of those games, and he decided to text not.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: Only me, but to text me and Jock in the
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: middle of the game.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: In the middle of the game, and I was like, oh, okay,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: oh look, oh, looky here.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: And it happened to be the game that they might
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: have been up thirty and oh it was a slow
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: death coming back.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: There might have been a few eyeball emojis, there might
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: have been a few things that we might have seen
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: coming back. And you know what's funny, John, like after
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: a while, like the dots kept going, but I never
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: saw I didn't see any of your.
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: Turn messages he was reading.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: So I just like, but like John and I were
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: just going back and forth, and we lost.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: We lost a third member of the Three amigos.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you know, not j P. But
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: I sometimes don't let things go really good. I texted
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: Trent at halftime of that game, come come back starts.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Now you did.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: I didn't really believe it, but it's a good story.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: And as the as the lead is creeping I think
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: he got to ten and I send the two eyeballs.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Oh no more, poor poor little guy.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: I was like, little guy, he's wishing the time. Can
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: just run off the flock?
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: Now, good sport?
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: About that, fine Bucky Brooks out of here for the summer,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: John Ozier, I'm J. P. Shadwick. Our thanks to Brent Reever,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Joe Fortunado, our condole sister Trump Ada.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: This is not just about that.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. That's up to you, though, this has
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: been another season of Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.