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Preserving America’s republic through spiritual renewal · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  Well, welcome to The Last Hope of a Dying Republic, folks.
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  I am your host, Reverend Bill Cook, founder and CEO of America's Black Robe Regiment, a national association of clergy that's striving to secure the blessings of liberty to our own generation and the next.
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  Thank you for being with us today.
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  We are so excited to be part of the Morning in America broadcast series on America out loud, and hope that you will join us on a weekly basis.
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  As we say every week, in case you're wondering what the Black Robe Regiment is, it's an historical term that the British used when referring to the American clergy who fought in the Revolutionary War, who the British blamed for what they called the rebellion, what we call the fight for liberty in our nation.
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  Today the Black Robert Regiment's raising up courageous pastors throughout the United States to secure liberty to our own generation and the next.
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  We are not just raising up pastors, we're raising up patriots, and you may be maybe just the one needed to save this republic.
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  I believe all of us have a role to play.
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  For more information on the on America's Black Robe Regiment, go to our website at Br USA.org.
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  Our guest today is someone who has been doing his part to be the hope of the dying republic.
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  And we have with us today.
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  Doug Small.
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  We will do that all over again.
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  We have somebody who edits this for us.
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  Our guest today is someone who has been doing his part to be the hope of the dying republic.
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  We have it that's Doug Small.
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  And Doug is with an organization called Prayer at the Heart.
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  And he and his organization are praying for America's next great awakening, which is the timing is just perfect with it being the 250th birthday of our nation.
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  So he's going to share with us this uh very exciting movement.
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  Doug, you believe America's facing a real crisis of faith and hope.
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  So what are you seeing that led you to that conclusion?
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  Well, I mean, if you if you just look back beyond this current generation, uh, you had a generation that told us for eight years that America was no longer a Christian nation.
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  You had Camilla saying to us that there would be no exceptions in Catholic hospitals for abortions.
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  You had this investment of authority in the state, not in God, uh, no more inalienable rights.
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  Um we were we were really headed for the guillotine, and we've been given a reprieve now, but if we believe our hope is in Washington, we are as delusional as the people were in the days of Josiah.
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  Uh President Trump's executive orders will be like Josiah's decrees, dead the day he leaves office.
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  We have to have something bottom up.
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  We have to have a grassroots revival.
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  It it took a great awakening to give birth to the nation.
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  There would have been no spiritual awakening, there would be no nation apart from that spiritual awakening driven by Whitfield and others.
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  And now we need nothing less than a great awakening to save the nation.
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  Amen.
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  When you look at the statistics showing a declining biblical worldview in America and rising anxiety, especially among the younger generation, what does that tell you tell you about what our culture is uh spiritually?
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  Well, it tells us terrible things, but it also tells us something else.
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  Something hopeful.
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  That the only thing when you reach the bottom of that barrel that can fill the vacuum of your heart is the father love of God manifest in Christ and made real to us by the Holy Spirit.
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  We may not be post-Christian.
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  Most of us think we are, but we actually may be pre-Christian in this sense.
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  We have a whole generation that's never heard the story.
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  They 99% of them in their colleges have never heard that, they never heard of creationism.
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  They never, never heard a reasonable argument for God, the scripture for Christ, for creation or anything else.
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  It's been an oddball thing.
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  They have a hole in their heart that only God can satisfy.
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  And you know, you've seen the statistics.
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  They're too only two-tenths of percent above my generation, baby boomer generation, in going to church.
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  They're walking into churches.
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  These young kids are saying, I've never been in a church before.
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  Can you tell me what to do and where to go?
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  There is a hunger.
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  We may be on the edge of an incredible spiritual awakening, and we dare not miss it.
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  Amen.
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  Historically, the Great Awakenings were very powerful movements.
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  We just saw the movie The Great Awakening about George Whitfield, powerful movie.
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  And uh, they were powerful movements of God.
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  When did they occur and what was their distinctive of each of those three movements?
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  Well, you know, the first real movement came in 1733, 34, with John and Edwards Edwards getting so passionate in his pulpit and being the preaching in uh Hampton.
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  And they said that they said you could walk down a street and you could see families on either side gathered at their fireplace praying and doing doing devotions together.
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  Now, this came out of the halfway covenant.
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  You can't sit for communion, but we don't want you to leave the church.
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  So stay.
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  Be halfway Christians, because maybe we can reach our children.
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  And then in 39, Whitfield made the first of his seven trips here, the last in 70, and that from 7039, 1743.
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  The colonies reached a boiling point.
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  80% of the colonialists heard him preach in person.
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  12 to 15% made fresh commitments to Christ.
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  Some say as much as 20%.
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  It changed the trajectory of the nation.
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  They didn't know who Washington was, and at that point, they didn't know who Jefferson was, Adams was, but they knew who Whitfield was.
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  And Whitfield told them you're really not Baptists or Anglicans or Episcopalians or Quakers, your first Christians.
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  And suddenly the colonies that were in conflict with one another over religious ideas, found a transcendent identity in Christ alone.
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  And that bound them together.
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  And of course, the second Great Awakening, the Great Camp Meetings and Finney and some talk about the New York revival as being an awakening, 1858.
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  And and uh and some talk about the New York revival as being an awakening, 1858.
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  That was a noontime prayer meeting that spilled over in the city.
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  That was a noontime prayer meeting that spilled over in the city.
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  Then you have the whales movement and the Azusha Street, extremely experientialism, and then the Jesus movement.
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  Then you have the whales movement and the Azusa Street, extremely experientialism, and then the Jesus movement.
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  Let me just make one comment, and Bill, you'll appreciate it.
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  Let me just make one comment, and Bill, you'll appreciate it.
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  Coming from a wild-eyed Pentecostal like me, you as a Presbyterian will appreciate this.
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  Coming from a wild eyed Pentecostal like me, you as a Presbyterian will appreciate this.
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  If we have an experience-based revival, it will not change this nation.
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  If we have an experience based revival, it will not change the
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  We cannot have simply a spiritual buzz.
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  We have to go back to the deep theological roots that characterize the first great awakening.
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  This has to be a Bible awakening as much as it is a spirit and Christ awakening.
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  Amen.
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  Some say that the American Revolution uh was born out of the Great Awakening.
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  I think you mentioned the Black Robe Regiment earlier.
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  There's no doubt, you know, uh Fuelinghausen, I think I'm saying is probably not putting his name right, and Whitfield and Edwards and a host of others began to preach until they until they motivated pastors to begin to preach substantive messages to engage the congregations.
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  And that that brought revival to the churches, and you know when the revolution came, they took off their clerical garments and revealed uh military uniforms and said, Let's go fight the British.
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  Only about 20, maybe 30 percent wanted a revolution.
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  20 percent packed up their bags and went back to Europe.
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  Most didn't care.
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  That's where we are today.
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  That's why I say we need to see about 35 million people tithe of the nation saved, plus the six to nine percent that are Bible Christians, and that would give us a sociological push that we need to see this nation have a spiritual uh revolution.
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  Amen.
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  Well, you know, back in uh 1734, people were attending churches.
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  It's because it was very much a cultural thing to attend a church.
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  Every small town had a church, and the church was the center of colonial life.
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  But how many people were really committed, how many had really committed their lives to Christ uh was a different story altogether.
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  So as a matter of fact, what I've read is that if you wanted to be a um, you know, to be a recognized um honorable person of the community to uh run for office or teach school or be a doctor, you had to go to church because nobody would have anything to do with you in terms of supporting your uh your business or unless you were a member, not just attending church, but a member of church of a church.
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  So I think I people may be confused and think like, well, I thought everybody was Christian back then.
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  Why did they need an awakening?
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  Well, they we needed an awakening because it had become less dependent upon God.
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  When they when the pilgrims first came here and the Puritans came here, life was very difficult for the for the uh colonists.
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  And and you know, we still, if we think back on their lives, we think, well, yeah, it was still really hard.
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  I mean, they didn't have automatic washing machines or dishwashers, and they worked the farms, you know, life was difficult.
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  But compared to being so dependent for just where is my next meal going to come from, like the pilgrims and the puritans for a while, um, life had become more comfortable, and that's how people uh just grew up apart from God.
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  And so that's why the revival was needed.
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  I just thought I'd throw that in there.
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  They they were they were they were committed to church because of the social center.
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  It was a mall.
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  It was a place where you met people, but they didn't know Christ.
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  And uh that's the problem we have today.
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  We have a lot of superficial Christians who who are who are committed to church or some modicum of of morality, deistic moralism, as it's called, but they don't, but they don't know Christ.
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  One survey said half all the girls of marriageable age were pregnant by the time they got married.
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  We were really in an abysmal state in the early 1700s.
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  We needed, as we do now, desperately a spiritual awakening.
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  Amen.
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  Now you're calling for one million Christians to pray for one million people.
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  What inspired that specific vision and why is prayer at the center of it?
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  Well, I I had a I was meeting with Billy Kim in South Korea.
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  He translated for Billy Graham for his largest ever crusade.
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  Um goodness gracious, uh, 50 years ago, a little more than that now.
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  And the next day I was meeting with Nam Su Choi, who sent the Korean teams, and in that night I had a restless night, and God said, I don't say this often.
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  I I felt I got out of bed.
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  I finally just got up and I said, Lord, what I know this is not insomnia.
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  What do you want?
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  And I just as clear as a bell, I want you to mobilize one million people to see one million people saved.
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  And so we started that that process.
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  Close to a half a million, and we may have already seen as many as 100,000 people come to Christ.
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  And and so it was that vision to mobilize ordinary people to break their silence and share Christ that moved me to do this.
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  Are you involved?
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  Are you doing anything with Hank Irwin?
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  And is the prayer movement?
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  He's he it's a he's uh he's a he's a strategic, he's a strategic partner with us, and we help we help promote that, and he is and he's helped us lifted his voice, and then uh uh Louis Palau, Kevin Palau's Bless Every Home, they are partners with us in this, and uh and so many others are uh as as well.
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  I think there are about 25 denominations or partners working with us on this uh on this project.
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  Wonderful.
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  Well, we're partnering with you.
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  I'm gonna say that here today that America's Black Robe Regiment is consider us a partner.
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  And uh I don't know where you write that down, where it gets written down.
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  Um this prayer the You have a few persons.
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  Have you personally seen a family member or friend of yours come to faith in Christ after you've prayed for them?
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  They're so salvation.
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  Certainly.
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  Uh I I was remembering this morning rehearsing an uncle of mine who was deep in sin, and and he was the only transportation I had as a young teenage preacher to go to a church.
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  And uh when we started back home after that Sunday morning service, a church that my present wife attended in those days, but I didn't know her that way.
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  And uh when we started back home after that Sunday morning service, a church that my present wife attended in those days, but I didn't know her that way.
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  But anyway, we started back home, he began to weep.
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  But anyway, we started back home, he began to weep.
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  And he pounded the steering wheel, and he began to say, it's real, it's real.
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  And he pounded the steering wheel, and he began to say, It's real, it's real.
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  I can't run from it anymore.
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  I can't run from it anymore, it's real.
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  It's real.
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  I've got two grandsons right now that are just I've got I've got five children and 20 grandchildren and 11 great grandchildren.
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  I've got two grandsons right now that are just I've got I've got five children and 20 grandchildren and 11 great grandchildren.
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  I'm 107 years old.
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  I'm 107 years old.
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  But I have got two of them that have just turned off fate.
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  We took them to grandkids' camps.
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  We did all kinds of things with them.
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  And and Barbara and I weep almost every day.
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  God, would you touch them?
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  Would you bring them to you yourself?
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  And here's what Paul said.
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  He said, You pray that a door might be open for the gospel to go forth.
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  And I would just encourage people that are in front of closed doors and closed hearts.
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  Pray, and the Holy Spirit will pick that lock and he will dance in their dreams and he will call them back to himself.
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  We're saying, Bill, pray for 10, care for five, have coffee with five.
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  Look for the opportunity to share the gospel with three with the hope of winning one by Pentecost Sunday.
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  10, 5, 3, 1.
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  Well, you know, one doesn't seem like very many people to be praying for.
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  But when you think about it, if if 50 million people do sign up to do this, and God does answer the prayer for just one.
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  Now you're saying start with 10, have a have a big vision.
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  But if you at least have one who does uh give their lives to Christ, then that's 50 million new believers in our nation.
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  And here's here's here's here's the thing.
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  You know, it's it's it's God's plan is strange.
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  It's not the old people who have babies, it's the young people who have babies.
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  It's the ones you're not doctrinally ready to start mentoring the noise.
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  Those are the ones because it's the freshness of their faith.
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  That one million will win two, and they'll win four, and they'll win and they'll win eight until we see this snowball begin to gain traction.
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  Right.
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  And you're mentioning families.
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  If you lead uh a husband or a wife to the Lord and they have children, that multiplies exponentially.
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  So the numbers could be double that in just a few years.
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  If if a father influences a wife, a wife influences a husband, uh the parents influence their children.
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  So it's it sounds very modest.
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  When I first read it, I thought, they're just praying for one person.
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  You know, where's their visions?
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  One, that's not very many, but when you think about it, if 50 people actually do it, right?
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  And they each bring one, and it's not overwhelming.
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  It's no, you're not asking people to go knock on the doors and you know in their community, which is nothing wrong with that, but but it's certainly a lot easier to pray than it is to go door to door to you know, 25 streets in your town.
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  So so you know, so the New Testament uses this wonderful word, uh, oikas.
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  And it has to do with family, has to do with your circle of influence.
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  And so when the gospel comes into a circle of influence into a family, it affects the balance.
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  It's like somebody getting in a rowboat.
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  It affects the balance of that entire family, changes the ethos, the culture of that entire family.
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  So we know if we can get if we can get an Ananias to hear the spirit and go talk to a guy on Straight Street, we can change the world.
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  If we can get a Philip in Samaria to head to Gaza and hitchhike in a chariot, it could change a nation, a nation that's impacted 2,000 years later.
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  So one person praying for one person, one person praying for 10, caring for five, sharing with three, winning one.
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  To Last Hope of a Dying Republic, we are speaking with Doug Small with Prayer at the Heart.
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  The their website is prayer at the heart.org.
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  Their website is prayer at the Heart.org.
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  And this is a prayer effort to spark revival during this 250th birthday of our nation.
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  And this is a prayer effort to spark revival during this 250th birthday of our nation.
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  Dr.
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  Samwall, this prayer initiative is happening between Passover and Pentecost.
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  Samwall, this prayer initiative is happening between Passover and Pentecost.
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  What's the spiritual significance of that 50-day window?
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  What's the spiritual significance of that 50 day window?
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  Well, you you've got two harvest Sundays there.
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  Well, you you've got two harvest Sundays there.
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  You've got Easter, which people naturally gravitate.
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  You've got Easter, which people naturally gravitate.
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  But you've got Pentecost, which is the biblical harvest day for the Jewish uh people.
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  It's the day when the Lord gave them the law, and it's the day when we believe the Lord writes the law of the Spirit in our heart for mission.
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  And it should be a harvest Sunday.
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  On that harvest Sunday, you had uh 3,000 people saved from 15 nations.
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  They didn't stay in Jerusalem.
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  They took the gospel out of uh out of out of uh out of Jerusalem.
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  So we're praying that God would begin the process again of saving a million people who would have a missional impact around around the world.
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  Now, this is our first phase.
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  We're gonna introduce what we call uh extra innings around Pentecost Sunday, and it's around the July 4th weekend.
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  We're gonna encourage churches to have what we call sunrise services.
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  You know, in that movie Awakening, there was a symbol of the sun behind uh uh Washington, and Franklin asked the question is is it rising or is it setting?
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  And it's the question we have to ask.
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  Is the sun on America rising or is the sun on America setting?
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  And a great awakening would absolutely guarantee that we would get an extension of time.
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  And so if you say to everybody, just pray all the time for people to be saved, they won't do it.
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  But if you put a kind of guardrail on it and say, let's do a sprint here for 50 days.
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  Let's let's let's commit together and see what all of us pushing at this thing can accomplish in 50 days.
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  Then we'll turn around and we'll do this again next year, going after not one million but two or whatever the Lord uh puts upon our heart after we evaluate where we are.
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  How does that work?
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  Well, people uh so you register online, correct?
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  Do you register as per church or individual?
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  How is this working to be church?
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  You can do both.
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  You can register as an individual, you can register as a church.
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  Uh, we still are looking for people who would be advocates for us uh at the county level, uh, the city level, the state level.
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  I think we've got representatives working in 45 states.
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  I don't really know the number in the counties, but we're still looking for people like that.
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  You can do this personally, or you can do this as a church.
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  There's a menu, a smorgasbord of support materials all free on that site.
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  You can go there and click the resources tab and just look at videos that are three, four minutes long and get a kind of an idea of what we're trying to do with this and the resources that are available.
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  So we recommend sign up, then you then you then you get updates and news about what's uh about what's happening, and you become a part of a movement.
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  There's also a Meet Jesus slash prayer at the Heart site.
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  And the Billy Graham people have been so kind to us.
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  They gave us old tapes of Billy Graham making an altar call and praying with people at the altar.
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  And then we've got follow-up discipleship material on that site as well.
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  And there's a number that you can call, and someone right now, right now, will pray for you.
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  It looks like, Bill, I just got a call this morning from some of our tech people that we're getting about 500 hits or calls a day of people wanting to know something about Christ.
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  And so there's a stirring going on in the nation.
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  Absolutely.
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  So then when somebody does have their prayer answered and leads somebody to Christ, do they go on the website and then report that so you can keep data collection of how many people they can take them to the website and and we we would encourage them to look at different discipleship options that they can use.
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  Some of these are church-based, some of these are living room-based, and uh, and you can and you can pull down, and again, these resources are free by partnering organizations that say, here's a peer-led.
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  We've we've got one resource on there that's a peer-led resource that I'm using in uh nine Western African nations, and we have seen so far the that movement, not me, I wouldn't take credit for it, but the miraculous movement of Jerry Trousdale's scene, I think 2.7 million Muslims come to Christ.
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  And and there's all kinds of resources, big life.
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  Um, I think Kevin Palau's organization has resources on there.
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  I've just received Christ.
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  What can I do?
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  And Bill, here's the other thing I think.
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  I grew up, I'm I'm I'm old.
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  You shared the gospel, you prayed with someone, and then you got them into a discipleship program.
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  That doesn't work.
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  It doesn't work, it doesn't work well.
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  You are now discipling people to conversion and discipling people from conversion.
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  And you are walking with your friends to know Christ, overcome their objections, and then walking from that commitment to explore and grow deeper in him.
• 26:50
  So I would say go to the Meet Jesus site and look at the materials and say, here's something I could use for my own with my own friends in one-on-one or in living room or in supplements to church.
• 27:05
  I want to get them in the same church that I go to.
• 27:07
  But you need, we're not, we're not looking to have people pray a prayer with us.
• 27:11
  We're looking to make a million disciples.
• 27:15
  Amen.
• 27:17
  That's definitely what we need.
• 27:19
  I think so many churches have gotten away from the idea of discipleship, and churches have even gotten away from the idea of asking people in church to give their lives to Christ.
• 27:31
  I think they're very the the churches that do that are few and far between.
• 27:37
  And so uh it sounds like a wonderful, wonderful plan.
• 27:42
  Uh Reverend Franklin Graham, who has endorsed this prayer initiative said this could be the beginning of the spiritual awakener awakening our our nation so desperately needs and a renewal found only in Jesus Christ.
• 27:55
  How can my listeners access your 68-page 50 day prayer guide on your website?
• 28:00
  On your website.
• 28:01
  I'm so glad you asked that.
• 28:01
  I'm so glad you asked that.
• 28:03
  And that that may be one of the best resources we have.
• 28:03
  And that that may be one of the best resources we have.
• 28:06
  It's digital.
• 28:06
  It's digital.
• 28:08
  We did have plenty of copies, but we ran out of them a long time ago.
• 28:08
  We did have plenty of copies, but we ran out of them a long time ago.
• 28:12
  Um, but you can go to resources tab.
• 28:12
  Um, but you can go to resources tab.
• 28:16
  Uh there may be another tab on the website, and you can find the 50-day prayer guide and just click it and download it.
• 28:16
  Uh there may be another tab on the website, and you can find the 50 day prayer guide and just click it and download it.
• 28:24
  If you sign up on the site, it will send it to you weekly, like a one week tab.
• 28:24
  If you sign up on the site, it will send it to you weekly, like a one-week tab because you get recommendations.
• 28:31
  This is what I can do this week.
• 28:33
  And then there's just a simple five to 10 minute devotional.
• 28:37
  It has a scripture of the day.
• 28:39
  It is a state to pray for every day.
• 28:41
  It has an unreached people group in every state every day.
• 28:46
  It has a prayer quote every day.
• 28:48
  And then it either has a prayer challenge or prayer itself that that keeps you thinking in a missional way.
• 28:57
  It's a great, it's a great little little little prayer guide.
• 29:02
  According to February to February, February, Barnabole.
• 29:06
  There seems to be a growing openness to the Christian faith among Gen Zers, those between the ages of 14 and 29.
• 29:12
  What do you think the younger generation is becoming?
• 29:14
  Why do you think the younger generation is becoming more spiritually curious right now?
• 29:19
  I I think there's a hole in their heart.
• 29:22
  I I think they've lived in the generation of the falling towers.
• 29:26
  It's been one crisis after another.
• 29:37
  They live between homes.
• 29:39
  I think there's a hole in their heart.
• 29:41
  And I think they've been pushed away from this.
• 29:45
  Don't pray here, don't pray around these kids.
• 29:47
  Don't influence them now for this kind.
• 29:50
  Don't brainwash them.
• 29:52
  And I think they're finally getting through the thicket and hearing a sound and hearing a song that's resonating inside of them.
• 30:01
  And uh I I said it before, I I think we may not be post-Christian, I think we may be pre-Christian.
• 30:06
  They have a lot of objections.
• 30:08
  They've got a lot of baggage, and that's why we have to disciple them to conversion and from conversion.
• 30:14
  But I I think we may be on the precedent.
• 30:17
  This generation could be the most radically committed generation in all of history.
• 30:26
  They could be the gunlap generation.
• 30:28
  They could be the one that takes the baton and finishes the Great Commission for us.
• 30:36
  Well, let's hope so.
• 30:37
  That was that would be uh that would be wonderful.
• 30:40
  We um have heard a lot about the um Muslims coming to the United States, and their their goal is when they come here is to convert Americans, not necessarily Christians, but convert uh Americans to Islam.
• 30:58
  And they're they are really um what I've read is that they're the vastest growing faith in uh the United States right now is Islam.
• 31:09
  So that ought to set a a fire under us when we think about that.
• 31:14
  And one of the things they're doing too is having large families.
• 31:17
  You were talking earlier about the impact, the impact you can have upon your family when you become a new believer, and they believe that wholeheartedly, and they are putting that into practice.
• 31:29
  We heard a um on a radio show a few weeks ago, we we heard a clip of a imam kind of really really exhorting the members, three different imams in three different mosques exhorting and almost scolding his their um, I don't know if they call them congregations, but their members uh because they they were apparently not doing the thing that they were called to do here, and really exhorting them that hey, you're here to uh win people to to Islam.
• 32:03
  So that ought to wake up some Christians to realize that um we have we have some pretty serious competition, and we don't want this nation, especially that this 250th birthday or anniversary year, um, to uh succumb to Islam.
• 32:22
  What do you think of that?
• 32:23
  Their model is be different, gain influence, be assertive.
• 32:29
  And we are now in the late stage of gain influence.
• 32:32
  They say they only need nine percent of uh uh of a city on their side, either as Muslim or sympathetic to them to actually gain control of the city.
• 32:43
  It's it's not a majority that you need.
• 32:45
  It's it's it's it's it's just it's just the tepid minority that we now have is not moving us, moving us forward.
• 32:52
  But God is racing ahead of us here.
• 32:53
  20% of all Muslim converts are seeing visions, and in the Middle East, it's bottoming out because there are moderate Muslims who don't want to be a part of the violence.
• 33:04
  And I think that God may be bringing them here to hear the gospel, and we are not engaging them.
• 33:11
  You know, the salt covenant, you got the blood covenant threshold covenant, but the salt covenant was the covenant in which you sit down with your enemies and you tasted salt together.
• 33:19
  You you broke bread together, and you you found, I know we disagree.
• 33:23
  Where do we agree?
• 33:25
  Where can we find civility between the two of us?
• 33:28
  And if you if you look at uh uh uh picture of Leah Leonardo da Vinci, you'll see in front of Judas an overturned salt shaker.
• 33:36
  He was not faithful to the salt.
• 33:37
  The Arabs would say that there's no longer salt in his belly.
• 33:41
  And we need to begin to have salt talks with Muslims, Buddhists, with with with gang members and other other other people.
• 33:49
  Uh when when Charlotte came under attack a few years ago in the Black Lives Matter and so forth, a group of pastors that I know sat down and met with the Muslim community here.
• 33:59
  And and they said, Frankly, do you want to see the city go up in smoke?
• 34:03
  They said no.
• 34:04
  They said, What can we do to diffuse the hostility on both sides?
• 34:08
  And and they did the same thing, white and black pastors sitting together.
• 34:12
  We need civility.
• 34:14
  We are peacemakers.
• 34:16
  We preach the gospel of reconciliation.
• 34:18
  We don't do it very well.
• 34:20
  We are ambassadors to the mayor and the congressmen and other people representing the kingdom of God.
• 34:26
  So the church becomes it becomes a kind of embassy of the kingdom of God.
• 34:30
  Really, this is feeds back into the whole black robe kind of uh kind of kind of notion.
• 34:38
  Right.
• 34:38
  That's that's so true.
• 34:39
  We we you're right.
• 34:41
  That's and that's one thing that Bill does talk about is we do need to be uh as pastors meeting with uh represent our representatives, whether it would be someone at a local level or state level or national level.
• 34:54
  We we do need to be um as as ambassadors meeting with them and letting them know we pray for them, even if they're not of the same political party that we are in, even more so if they're not at the same political party that that we we are.
• 35:00
  them even if they're not of the same political party that we are in even more so if they're not of the same absolutely political party that that we we are but I think that um it's wonderful that you have all these resources uh through your website because I I think that um many Christians maybe most Christians especially younger Christians have a difficult time sharing their faith um even with people who maybe have come from a Christian background maybe somebody who was they know their their parents are Christian or they were kind of raised Christian they once went to church because Christians so many Christians don't even know what they believe or why they believe what they believe and so if you can't if you have a difficult time sharing your faith with um someone who comes from a Christian background how much more difficult is it to share your faith with someone from a Muslim or Buddhist uh etc background so um I think it's wonderful that you have all these resources yeah absolutely so you know the first word of God to humanity was blessing and the last word of Jesus to humanity at the ascension was blessing so the entire relationship with the Father and the Son is framed in blessing the cross couldn't silence the blessing cross couldn't put it out and so what we're saying is let's use the language of God let's say God bless you let's say have a good day let's say have a blessed day let's really get bold and say could I pray a prayer blessing rarely do Muslims we're talking about Muslims refuse a prayer of blessing that opens people up to the love of God and the grace of God.
• 35:09
  But I think that um it's wonderful that you have all these resources uh through your website, because I I think that um many Christians, maybe most Christians, especially younger Christians have a difficult time sharing their faith, um even with people who maybe have.
• 36:55
  So the old evangelism of quote a hundred scriptures and make people feel guilty and then get them wet and leave them alone that is not going to work now you want to lead with love build a bridge strong enough to handle the truth it's the truth that transforms.
• 37:13
  Oh absolutely absolutely but once you once you develop a relationship with somebody you do need to know like what steps to take and you have to know the word of God you know I'm not saying you have to go out and quote the five spiritual laws but it it is important to to know what you believe so you can share it's also important to know what Muslims believe.
• 37:35
  So we're saying which here's what we're saying is it's really an old model is get close enough to somebody who may be a family member they may be someone works around you where you can say to them honestly and sincerely tell me your story tell me your God's story what I don't have a God's story I don't believe in God.
• 37:52
  You know I don't believe in God don't ask me a question like that well that's exactly the story I want to hear I want to hear the story of why you don't believe in God.
• 37:59
  And you sit and listen to their story and they may have never unpacked this much garbage from their attic or their basement and you do not respond at that point except to affirm and then you come back and you see if they want to tell you any more they probably are processing what they said to you.
• 38:16
  And at some point you say to them hey I listened to your God's story I'm so glad you shared it with me.
• 38:21
  Can I tell you mine?
• 38:23
  You you you you you you probably have a wrong impression you probably don't know what my life was like before I met him before he came to our life could I tell you that story and you wait for their permission and then the last thing can I tell you his story can I invite you into his story he has a story for your life he's he's written the last chapter of your life and it really is an exciting chapter.
• 38:47
  And and and you're now beginning to unpack propositional truths of the gospel.
• 38:53
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• 40:15
  Welcome back to last hope of a dime republic we are speaking with Doug Small with prayer at the heart and you can uh find more information about prayer at the heart at his website prayer at the heart dot org um Doug is speaking about a prayer effort to spark revival during this 250th birthday of our nation um if folks head over to prairatheheart.org or g they'll find a tab entitled Project 2026 which is drop down tab called USA prayer wall how how they can connect with other believers in the state or across America and actually pray together so tell us a little bit so it in every state we we we've got well in 40 states I think we were let we're lacking 10 and I can't name those unfortunately but we've got uh sometimes it's a handful of people sometimes it's more than that that are spending one hour a week praying for revival in their state and the goal is to to fill up that wall and until until every week you can go to a prayer call where people are praying for spiritual awakening in Arizona or Alaska or some other place and then the goal would be to go to the the cities there there are only a dozen cities that get us to 23% of the population one out of four Americans live in those 12 12 cities if you add another 20 it gets you to 45% of the population.
• 41:40
  So what would it look like to see a prayer wall in each of those cities where believers across the border just meeting to pray for the issues in their city or their state and pray for spiritual renewal.
• 41:52
  So that's what the prayer wall is all about we're trying to fill up ultimately 247 prayer we are inviting nations to pray for us I just was on the phone recently the nation of Kuwait took a day and prayed for us the nation of Indonesia a million intercessors I met with a leader they're taking a day to pray for America we're asking the nations of the world because if if you pray we're praying for you and we send our missionaries we send our mission teams but if you don't pray for us we we don't see a revival that that could stop that gravy trend could stop.
• 42:00
  To pray for us.
• 42:00
  I just was on the phone recently.
• 42:03
  The nation of Kuwait took a day and prayed for us.
• 42:06
  The nation of Indonesia, a million intercessors, I met with a leader.
• 42:11
  They're taking a day to pray for America.
• 42:14
  We're asking the nations of the world, because if if you pray, we're praying for you, and we send our missionaries and we send our mission teams.
• 42:22
  But if you don't pray for us, we don't see a revival.
• 42:27
  That gravy trend could stop.
• 42:29
  So we're
• 42:29
  So we're, and they're responding.
• 42:31
  The nations of the world are responding to say, we want to pray for America.
• 42:37
  And uh we want to see, we want to see a revival come to America.
• 42:41
  That's pretty amazing.
• 42:42
  Nations like Kuwait would pray for awakening in America.
• 42:46
  What does that look like?
• 42:47
  How did they respond when you asked when they asked?
• 42:50
  I've been there twice, and uh both times they've never had all the pastors of the nation, and they're not a lot of them, but there are significant number.
• 42:59
  Uh I think the last time I was there, I had about a hundred pastors in the room.
• 43:04
  There are 85 churches that share one compound on Friday.
• 43:08
  And it's open at 6 o'clock in the morning, it closes at 10 o'clock at night.
• 43:12
  So each church gets two hours in a bay.
• 43:14
  Some of them are in bays that only hold 100 people, some over in bays that hold a thousand people, one in a bay that holds 1,500 people.
• 43:24
  And uh, and so I did a pastor's conference, and really I challenged them.
• 43:28
  I said, Why don't why don't you do your million soul campaign?
• 43:31
  Well, it's only 4.3 million people there.
• 43:35
  It's difficult to reach the Muslims that are there, but they have a lot of expatriates there that are foreigners that are there.
• 43:43
  And uh I uh so far they've not taken the date of saying we're gonna do, we're gonna see a hundred thousand people or ten thousand people saved in Kuwait.
• 43:51
  But that's really we're asking nations, put a number on this.
• 43:56
  Let's let's stop saying we're all evangelizing in some kind of ethereal ghostly way when we know it's not happening.
• 44:02
  Right.
• 44:03
  Let's put a number on this.
• 44:05
  And let's let's let the Holy Spirit dare us until we begin to really count the number of people that are that are getting into the lifeboats.
• 44:14
  Praise God.
• 44:15
  Well, now in Kuwait, are are the pastors that are in Kuwait, you're saying they're Christian pastors in Kuwait praying for the United States.
• 44:23
  Are they there as missionaries?
• 44:25
  Is that why they're there in Kuwait?
• 44:27
  So some of them have been expatriated, they've got uh visas or whatever.
• 44:32
  It's an interesting thing that happened.
• 44:34
  A hundred years ago in Kuwait, a member of the Eamon's family, uh Emir's family, rather, fell sick, and they didn't have advanced medical treatment.
• 44:43
  And there was a there was a Christian missionary doctor in Kuwait.
• 44:48
  Not very popular, but the but the Emir heard about it and he called him to treat this child, and the child got well.
• 44:56
  And the Emir said, All right, we're going to start a clinic.
• 44:59
  They started a men's clinic, and then they started a women's clinic, and then they opened a hospital.
• 45:03
  And then when when when Muslim medicine caught up in the 70s and 80s, they they had their own hospital.
• 45:10
  They closed it down.
• 45:11
  But the nation of Kuwait said, You've been so kind to us, we're going to create a Christian compound just for Christians.
• 45:19
  And it is like a festival every time I go.
• 45:22
  I mean, it's like it's like all these people from from Eastern Orthodox to wild eyed Pentecostals like me, Baptist, Presbyterian, Methodist, all meeting together, all fellowshipping together.
• 45:35
  And uh Bill, you should go, and they'll put your name up right there in the center court and say, Bill, Bill Cook here from America preaching, and uh, and uh it's it's really a great, and they're so hungry for news about what's happening around the world and so hungry for fellowship and encouragement there.
• 45:54
  And I, you know, I was I was I was in another group and I sat down with a pastor and just it was God's fortune.
• 46:01
  He said, and I my my background is church of God.
• 46:03
  He said, he said, I'm church of God.
• 46:05
  I said, really?
• 46:05
  Where we're at?
• 46:06
  He said Saudi Arabia.
• 46:07
  I said, there's not a church of God in Saudi Arabia.
• 46:09
  There's no churches in Saudi Arabia.
• 46:11
  He said, You're right.
• 46:12
  He said, I'm two blocks from Mecca with an underground church, and there are eight of us in Saudi Arabia, all over the world.
• 46:22
  So exciting.
• 46:23
  The Holy Spirit is moving in places that we can't even, we can't even imagine.
• 46:29
  And he wants to do that here.
• 46:32
  Well, I I've heard, I don't know if this is true, that the United States is the num the most, it's the nation that has the most missionaries coming to it.
• 46:45
  Is that true?
• 46:46
  I don't know that I heard that a few months ago.
• 46:50
  And I was like, that's hard to believe.
• 46:51
  People are coming from all over the world as missionaries to the United States to bring us to Christ.
• 46:58
  I know in some states, the number of people who are now attending church is almost approaching the 5% uh category that we begin to call unreached people.
• 47:09
  This is America.
• 47:10
  This is America.
• 47:12
  So we we are we we're our back is against the wall here.
• 47:15
  Uh we are often referred to after China and India, the third largest mission field in the world.
• 47:21
  We need, we need a revival.
• 47:24
  We need a mighty move of God here.
• 47:26
  And I think God wants to send us one.
• 47:30
  That's the amazing thing.
• 47:31
  We're it's not God that's holding back.
• 47:34
  It's it's we're the ones that are stopping the parade simply because we're not following 2 Chronicles 714.
• 47:42
  We're not we're not willing to let God break our hearts and wet our eyes over lost people, and we're not willing to break our silence.
• 47:49
  That's right.
• 47:50
  What will that what would that look like?
• 47:52
  That kind of a great awakening in America.
• 47:54
  What would that how would that manifest itself?
• 47:56
  I I I think I think we're all rejoicing that revival is out there.
• 48:00
  You know, one church had a thousand people saved last week, one one church, a thousand people saved.
• 48:06
  Other churches had hundreds saved on Easter, uh, etc.
• 48:10
  etc., etc.
• 48:11
  But but what it looks like is a grassroots movement that may not be thousands, but it's hundreds that are coming to Christ.
• 48:20
  What it looks like is spiritual awakening in your backyard.
• 48:24
  What it looks like is electric.
• 48:26
  It's everybody is talking about God.
• 48:29
  How do I find God?
• 48:31
  What it looks like is God talk everywhere, first hushed, but then open.
• 48:36
  I'm hungry for something that only God can give.
• 48:39
  What it looks like is noontime places like like the 17 uh are the 1857, 1858 revival where where people are are coming to simply sit in the presence of God and and and and and and pray.
• 48:53
  That's that's awakening.
• 48:55
  That's awakening.
• 48:56
  And and I I again believe that my my prayer has been a tithe of the nation.
• 49:01
  My prayer has been a tithe of the nation.
• 49:05
  10% of the nation coming coming coming to Christ.
• 49:05
  10% of the nation coming coming coming to Christ.
• 49:09
  And Bill, you you may not know this.
• 49:09
  And Bill, you may not know this.
• 49:11
  You may.
• 49:11
  You may.
• 49:12
  The Roe v.
• 49:12
  The Roe v.
• 49:13
  Wade courtroom is now a prayer room.
• 49:13
  Wade courtroom is now a prayer room.
• 49:16
  No, I didn't know that.
• 49:16
  No, I didn't know that.
• 49:17
  No, that's that's I'm surprised we don't know that.
• 49:17
  No, that's that's I'm surprised we don't know that.
• 49:19
  We've been very involved in pro life.
• 49:19
  We've been very involved in pro-life.
• 49:21
  So so here, so here's the deal.
• 49:21
  So here so here's the deal.
• 49:23
  It was decommissioned as a courtroom and it became a federal office building.
• 49:23
  It was decommissioned as a courtroom, and it became a federal office building.
• 49:29
  But nobody.
• 49:29
  But nobody wanted to put their office in that building.
• 49:32
  Nobody wanted to be in that room.
• 49:34
  And then it became an apartment building, and nobody wanted to sleep there.
• 49:38
  And the Christians rided it and turned it into a prayer room.
• 49:42
  And the DS is still there with the three judges sit, and the wallpaper hasn't changed, and the chandeliers have it changed, and the and the floor is still the same.
• 49:50
  Now they took out the other courtroom furniture, but there's a long table there, and and there's a nice, comfortable chairs, and the church of Dallas gathers there for special nights of prayer.
• 50:01
  When they were hearing the case in the Supreme Court, that room was packed.
• 50:04
  I was in that room praying.
• 50:06
  I was in that room praying, and I had a shattering experience with God.
• 50:10
  I could take you to the spot in that room.
• 50:13
  And the Lord taunted me a little bit.
• 50:15
  And I don't mean that in a good way.
• 50:17
  The Lord said to me, He said, Do you really think you're a hot shot praying for a tithe of the nation to be saved?
• 50:23
  And I got that out of Isaiah 6, a tithe shall remain, a tenth shall remain.
• 50:28
  And uh and that would be 35 million.
• 50:30
  And the Lord said, Why don't you really pray for something big?
• 50:32
  And I was I was stunned.
• 50:35
  I was stunned.
• 50:36
  And the Lord said this to me why don't you pray for a for a great revival in America, a spiritual awakening that will sweep into the kingdom, the number of people equal to the number of children that have been aborted since the ruling in this courtroom.
• 50:51
  That would be 63 to 70 million.
• 50:54
  I was stunned.
• 50:55
  I think it's in the heart of God to do far more than we imagine.
• 51:04
  Agree with that.
• 51:04
  So we're going to say something about the number.
• 51:07
  Well, the number that I've researched this, and I don't know anybody else saying that.
• 51:11
  I've had people agree with me, but they don't say it publicly.
• 51:15
  But what I count is the babies that were aborted from the birth control pill, which became legal in 1963.
• 51:24
  And immediately that first year, a million big women were on the pill.
• 51:28
  And there's no it's difficult to calculate because uh the pill, the birth control.
• 51:33
  I'm not talking about the abortion pill now that does 70% of all abortions, which is also not counted in that 63 million.
• 51:39
  That number 63 million has been used for about 10 years now.
• 51:43
  I don't know why.
• 51:44
  We know that's a million at least a million to million have new ones every year.
• 51:48
  So I don't know why they stopped counting 10 or 15 years ago.
• 51:51
  But if you count the number, I mean, this is a conservative, very conservative, because if a woman's on the pill for the year for one year, she may abort one child when she becomes pregnant, but she may abort six, she might, she may get pregnant every month and be aborting babies.
• 52:09
  So we don't really know.
• 52:10
  But a conservative number would be that we have we have murdered 300 million babies, which is almost our entire population.
• 52:20
  It seems to me that the Lord might be saying, You you took their lives, but I want to claim them.
• 52:26
  I want to claim a whole generation.
• 52:27
  I want to claim a whole generation of young people of children and babies.
• 52:31
  And the child intercessor movement, Bill, this is a this is not what we're talking about, but the child intercessor movement of young people that are 12, uh, seven rather to 14 numbers eight million around the world.
• 52:45
  We have never seen this kind of movement orchestrated by the Holy Spirit to awaken so many children and young people around the world to pray for mission and and and global harvest.
• 53:02
  Yes, absolutely.
• 53:03
  That's great.
• 53:03
  And God hears the prayers of the children, doesn't he?
• 53:07
  Amen.
• 53:08
  Absolutely.
• 53:09
  That's what Jesus said, right?
• 53:10
  Suffer the little children to come unto me.
• 53:12
  He hears their prayers.
• 53:13
  What scriptures come to mind, uh, doctor, uh, regarding the importance and power of prayer.
• 53:19
  Well, you know, you you you you you're asking a Pentecostal, so you gotta throw in Acts 1 and 8.
• 53:23
  You shall receive power and uh dunymus, the dynamic life of the Holy Spirit, not from the outside in, as we saw in the Old Testament, from the inside out.
• 53:35
  And and you and you, and it's not that you would do witnessing a verb, it's that you yourself become a witness.
• 53:41
  And and the presence of the Holy Spirit in our life evokes a kind of courtroom in which the Holy Spirit calls people to give an account of what they believe about Christ.
• 53:53
  It's really Matthew.
• 53:54
  Uh who do you say that I am?
• 53:56
  And as we begin to pray, and and as we begin to live and walk in the Holy Spirit, it's almost like a kind of, I don't want to sound new age here, but it's almost like a kind of a field of energy develops around us, where the Holy Spirit invites people to know him, and he's asking the question, who is Christ to you?
• 54:14
  And the and and the response to that is the gateway to transformation.
• 54:18
  It's the gateway to salvation.
• 54:20
  That I think is what the Lord wants to do in my life.
• 54:23
  He wants, he wants the the Holy Spirit's presence to become not only real to me, but real through me.
• 54:31
  So that I not only, you know, if Paul said that Paul said, You are epistles, people read your life.
• 54:37
  You're a fragrance, they smell the sweetness about you, and they see the glory on your face.
• 54:43
  And and that's what I want.
• 54:44
  That's why I want to become a Christian one day, Bill.
• 54:47
  I want I want to become a Lord.
• 54:51
  I want to, I want my life to be marked by the presence of God.
• 54:56
  Amen.
• 54:58
  Absolutely.
• 54:59
  Um, you mentioned the Korean uh uh movement, which occurred really in what in the 70s, 80s, where um so many uh millions of Koreans came to the Lord.
• 55:14
  Yeah, well, uh you know, Billy Graham's Crusade uh there in 73, uh it was a large several crusade he had, and the last service had 1.2 million.
• 55:23
  I think it was 2.3 over the three nights.
• 55:27
  And the total that Graham puts forth is 70,000, but the total that uh the Koreans put forth that Billy Kim puts forth uh forest broadcasting is that 100,000 people came to Christ.
• 55:40
  And and now their children and their grandchildren are going to the nations to pray, and they're the ones that started coming back here and and praying in America.
• 55:52
  They've prayed from Seattle to Miami, they prayed from San Diego to the border of Maine and Canada.
• 55:58
  They prayed in almost every denominational uh sector.
• 56:00
  Denominational uh sector.
• 56:02
  They prayed, I think, with a half a dozen governors.
• 56:02
  They've prayed, I think, with a half a dozen governors, and and and they and they don't know, they don't know English.
• 56:05
  And and and they and they don't know they don't know English.
• 56:08
  They shut down their businesses, literally.
• 56:08
  They shut down their businesses, literally, pay their way to come here to put their feet on American soul.
• 56:12
  Pay their way to come here to put their feet on American soul.
• 56:16
  When they get here, they'll tell pastors, pastors call me and say, What do I do?
• 56:16
  When they get here, they'll tell pastors, pastors call me, say, what do I do?
• 56:19
  They don't want to go to the hotel.
• 56:19
  They don't want to go to the hotel.
• 56:21
  They've been on a jet for 16 hours, and they just want me to take the church so they can sleep at the altar and pray for America to have a great awakening.
• 56:21
  They've been on a jet for 16 hours, and they just want me to take the church so they can sleep at the altar and pray for America to have a great awakening.
• 56:30
  Thank you so much for joining us.
• 56:31
  Thank you for being with us.
• 56:33
  And we always end with our Ben Franklin quote.
• 56:35
  Yeah, when it when he was asked what kind of government do we have by a by a woman, he said, a republic if you can keep it.