Latest / The Calcio Guys / Lazio jump to 1st in Serie A after Inter lose derby vs Milan - Calcio Carousel Ep. 322
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- 0:03Speaker 1: What do the Montreal Roses, FC Supra, Juventus, and Milan
- 0:08Speaker 1: all have in common here on the couch, guys? They
- 0:11Speaker 1: all won big games this weekend. Adriano, Gianni, I'm Nicholas.
- 0:14Speaker 1: You can follow us on all your favorite podcasting platforms
- 0:17Speaker 1: and social media at the couch, guys. Don't forget to
- 0:20Speaker 1: hit that subscribe button on YouTube and wherever you listen
- 0:22Speaker 1: to your podcasts. Guys, how's it going?
- 0:26Speaker 2: It's going good, man. I'm on like a tear tonight.
- 0:31Speaker 2: All kinds of episodes, but happy to be back and
- 0:34Speaker 2: talking to the three of us once again tonight.
- 0:36Speaker 3: I love how you started off the intro with that
- 0:38Speaker 3: because clearly it hasn't been the same for me because
- 0:41Speaker 3: my teams have been struggling out here besides Roma's game
- 0:46Speaker 3: this weekend.
- 0:46Speaker 2: But anyways, whatever.
- 0:47Speaker 4: We'll get there when we get there.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Roma won on the weekend. They won on the weekend.
- 0:50Speaker 1: You know, I thought about including them, but like I said,
- 0:53Speaker 1: the big games. It's not... let's not put you in that,
- 0:57Speaker 1: in that big category there. They're at the bottom of
- 0:59Speaker 1: the season, but yeah, if you're, if you're listening to
- 1:02Speaker 1: this one, head over to our YouTube channel, a full
- 1:05Speaker 1: interview with FC super goalkeeper, a walkout, walking media is
- 1:09Speaker 1: up as well. So thanks to you, general for taking
- 1:12Speaker 1: care of that earlier. You guys know, if you listen
- 1:16Speaker 1: to us for the past year, you know, we've been
- 1:17Speaker 1: all on the FC super train, right. Led by Rocco
- 1:21Speaker 1: Placentino and Placentino.
- 1:24Speaker 4: Sorry.
- 1:25Speaker 1: And I got to got to go to the game,
- 1:28Speaker 1: their first ever playoff game in franchise history at home
- 1:32Speaker 1: in Laval this past Sunday to unwin over Calvary in
- 1:36Speaker 1: the first leg of the CPL semi final. It was
- 1:38Speaker 1: it was fun. It was interesting to see because we
- 1:40Speaker 1: were right in front of the tribuna, basically. So, you know,
- 1:43Speaker 1: Rocco was there and it was interesting to see everyone's
- 1:45Speaker 1: reaction because those guys are as big as fans as
- 1:48Speaker 1: we are. They're obviously bigger, right? And you could tell when,
- 1:52Speaker 1: you know, let's say Rocco or even Nick DeSantis, when
- 1:54Speaker 1: they're passionate about the team, when they're passionate about the project,
- 1:57Speaker 1: they're there, they're there to support the team. And it
- 1:59Speaker 1: was nice to see. And look, Forza Supra this weekend,
- 2:03Speaker 1: big game in Calgary. It's not going to be easy.
- 2:04Speaker 1: Calgary is a good team. But to go up 2-1,
- 2:08Speaker 1: it should have been more.
- 2:09Speaker 2: Could have been more.
- 2:10Speaker 1: It could have been more. You know, it's positive signs.
- 2:13Speaker 1: So they just need a result and they'll go to
- 2:16Speaker 1: the final. Again, not easy, but Forza Supra.
- 2:19Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 2:19Speaker 4: And in their first season too.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
- 2:23Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So history was, was made regardless of what
- 2:26Speaker 2: the result was going to be. It was made already,
- 2:28Speaker 2: but yeah, I just want to, again, shout out Joachim
- 2:31Speaker 2: Mille again, goalkeeper, like Nick said for FC Supra for,
- 2:35Speaker 2: for the time, for the gracious, you know, opportunity to,
- 2:38Speaker 2: to get to the, for the interview. Great guy. Magic Mille,
- 2:43Speaker 2: we're going to call him, I guess, going forward. instead
- 2:46Speaker 2: of Magic Mike we'll call him Magic Millie yeah great
- 2:50Speaker 2: episode yeah great episode so yeah guys definitely go follow
- 2:56Speaker 2: that one and go you know over to YouTube and
- 2:59Speaker 2: listen to that and watch that because a lot of
- 3:02Speaker 2: just a casual talk it was it was like one
- 3:06Speaker 2: of you know at the bar just shooting the shit
- 3:09Speaker 2: it seemed like so again Joachim if you're listening to
- 3:12Speaker 2: this we appreciate you brother.
- 3:15Speaker 1: And as I mentioned, Montreal roses, they won their first
- 3:18Speaker 1: leg of the semifinal three, nothing in Vancouver. So they
- 3:20Speaker 1: have a lot easier path to the final and they
- 3:22Speaker 1: play a stable rail this upcoming Sunday. So good times
- 3:26Speaker 1: in Montreal for Montreal pro soccer. But you know, we do,
- 3:31Speaker 1: we do the city out here on the couch with guys.
- 3:34Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 3:34Speaker 1: A lot of big week, a lot of big games
- 3:36Speaker 1: this weekend. Obviously I think we do have to start
- 3:38Speaker 1: with the Derby. I think this Derby was, I guess
- 3:41Speaker 1: you could say extra special because of the news of
- 3:44Speaker 1: the stadium, but it feels like it's the 10th time
- 3:46Speaker 1: that there's news about a new stadium. I don't know
- 3:48Speaker 1: how much, how legit this one is, Adrian. It seems
- 3:50Speaker 1: like it's legit with the new Stan Ciro. You know,
- 3:54Speaker 1: obviously it's not the last derby at the stadium, but
- 3:56Speaker 1: you know, it's, it's special regardless. Kakao was there. And
- 4:01Speaker 1: then Milan comes with the, the three, one win inter
- 4:05Speaker 1: people say they, they choke in big games. I, they've
- 4:08Speaker 1: definitely won big games in the past. You know, look,
- 4:11Speaker 1: they wouldn't, they wouldn't have won the Scudetto last year
- 4:13Speaker 1: without it. But, uh, you know, between Champions League, between
- 4:16Speaker 1: the derbies now, um, you know, it, it wasn't their day.
- 4:21Speaker 1: They drop out of first in Serie A. Uh, Milan
- 4:23Speaker 1: gets the, the big win. And, uh, I'm sure you're happy, Adrian.
- 4:27Speaker 2: Yeah, man, we're still celebrating as, uh, Milan fans, right?
- 4:30Speaker 2: I think it's, uh, it's about time, you know, well,
- 4:32Speaker 2: about time. We've kind of had their number, you know,
- 4:34Speaker 2: the past, what was it? Seven, eight matches, I believe. Um,
- 4:38Speaker 2: you know, the last 40 games Inter have lost only
- 4:40Speaker 2: three matches and, you know, those three matches were against
- 4:43Speaker 2: Milan in a derby. So, it's something to obviously notice.
- 4:48Speaker 2: It's something to be proud of as Milanisti and I
- 4:51Speaker 2: think it's hopefully something to, you know, carry over and
- 4:55Speaker 2: bounce off of, you know, going forward in these, if
- 4:58Speaker 2: it be tomorrow in Europa League and just, you know,
- 5:01Speaker 2: this weekend in Serie A or just any upcoming games
- 5:04Speaker 2: that Milan has. But, uh, yeah, Nick, you said it,
- 5:07Speaker 2: you said it well. I mean, it's, it was, it
- 5:09Speaker 2: was a hell of a game, honestly. I think, uh,
- 5:12Speaker 2: you know, fans of both teams, I think we're obviously
- 5:15Speaker 2: confident that then going into it, it was, uh, it
- 5:17Speaker 2: was going to be a, one of the, I wouldn't
- 5:19Speaker 2: say the first true test for, for these clubs, but,
- 5:22Speaker 2: you know, one of the lot of, you know, those, uh,
- 5:25Speaker 2: those tests, uh, early on in the season for these
- 5:27Speaker 2: big clubs, um, Inter showed that they were able to,
- 5:31Speaker 2: to get out of results that kind of looked, you know,
- 5:34Speaker 2: not in their favor in the past. You know, if
- 5:37Speaker 2: it was the Napoli game, obviously, you know, Como, the
- 5:40Speaker 2: Roma one. So, again, this game was going to be
- 5:45Speaker 2: a tough, tough, tough game, tough task for Milan in
- 5:48Speaker 2: the Milan perspective. But I think the, you know, the
- 5:52Speaker 2: game plan, you know, executed, you know, like to a charm,
- 5:56Speaker 2: I would say. I mean, was it completely perfect? You know,
- 5:59Speaker 2: maybe not, but, I think, you know, when it mattered
- 6:02Speaker 2: the most, Milan got the job done. I think Inter
- 6:05Speaker 2: came out flat. And the game started off, you know,
- 6:08Speaker 2: right on the front foot with Milan. You know, many
- 6:12Speaker 2: are going to call this derby, you know, the derby
- 6:15Speaker 2: di Morera, right? Diego Morera, who had a hell of
- 6:18Speaker 2: a game. One goal, two assists in the game. His
- 6:21Speaker 2: first derby, and he really came out to play. He
- 6:25Speaker 2: kind of embodied... It seemed like he embodied what it
- 6:28Speaker 2: was like to play for Milan. You know, the shirt, obviously.
- 6:32Speaker 2: You know, we always like to say these shirts of
- 6:34Speaker 2: these big clubs, you know, weigh a bit more. And
- 6:38Speaker 2: especially in a matchup like this in the derby. But
- 6:40Speaker 2: he was up for it. You know, he was full
- 6:42Speaker 2: of confidence. Young player, but wanted to go after it.
- 6:45Speaker 2: You know, the two assists early on with the Pulisic goal.
- 6:52Speaker 2: The Rabiot one off the corner, which was beautiful. Went
- 6:55Speaker 2: up 2-0. early on, it's like, you know, you want
- 6:59Speaker 2: to be excited, but at the same time you want
- 7:00Speaker 2: to kind of, you know, manage expectations because it's what, like,
- 7:05Speaker 2: it was felt like the super game, right? Like two
- 7:06Speaker 2: goals in 10 minutes. And now you have, you know,
- 7:08Speaker 2: like 80 odd more minutes to go and to, to
- 7:10Speaker 2: really hold onto the game. So, you know, unfortunately, you know,
- 7:15Speaker 2: conceding the goal the way they did, it almost seemed
- 7:17Speaker 2: like it was inevitable. I mean, one always seems to
- 7:19Speaker 2: find a way to concede in these, in these types
- 7:22Speaker 2: of fashions, if it'd be offset pieces or, you know,
- 7:25Speaker 2: corners or what have you. Bastoni gets his first in
- 7:29Speaker 2: a derby, which was interesting to hear. Looking back at
- 7:33Speaker 2: the times, I guess, in 20 appearances in a derby,
- 7:35Speaker 2: it's first goal. But as a defender, I mean, it's not,
- 7:38Speaker 2: I guess, something too crazy. And then, again, Moreira, just,
- 7:43Speaker 2: you know, cherry on top with the free kick. He's like, guys.
- 7:47Speaker 1: Step aside, you know.
- 7:49Speaker 2: Kaká' s up in the tribuna. I'm wearing his number. Let me...
- 7:52Speaker 2: Let me put one, you know, in the back of
- 7:55Speaker 2: the net and, you know, pushing away on a quote-unquote
- 7:59Speaker 2: pushing away, you know, likes of Modric and, you know,
- 8:02Speaker 2: Pulisic and stuff like that. Like, players of those calibers
- 8:08Speaker 2: to have the confidence at, I think, what, 20, 22
- 8:10Speaker 2: years old, if I'm not mistaken, for Moreira. It's huge
- 8:13Speaker 2: confidence and he's slotted at top corner and goes up
- 8:17Speaker 2: 3-1 and, you know, the San Siro... when going crazy.
- 8:21Speaker 2: And for this game, obviously it was a Milan, it
- 8:23Speaker 2: was the Milan home game. So you saw more of the,
- 8:26Speaker 2: the red than you did the blue, but, um, it was, uh,
- 8:30Speaker 2: it was nice to see that, you know, after the
- 8:33Speaker 2: Bologna game, which we spoke about last week, you know,
- 8:35Speaker 2: these midweek games were going to be potentially trap games
- 8:38Speaker 2: for some of our teams. Um, going to be a
- 8:40Speaker 2: tough task regardless. And these are, these are big points swings, uh,
- 8:43Speaker 2: you know, no matter what the results were going to be. So, uh,
- 8:46Speaker 2: you know, positively or negatively. And, um, you know, it
- 8:49Speaker 2: was a bad way to go into the derby. I
- 8:51Speaker 2: think the game against Bologna was a terrible way to
- 8:55Speaker 2: stroll into the derby, but like we said on this show,
- 8:59Speaker 2: timeless times, you know, again and again, you know, anything
- 9:03Speaker 2: can happen in Serie A, but once it's the derby,
- 9:05Speaker 2: especially for this one, the derby de la Madonnina, it's,
- 9:09Speaker 2: you know, form and all this, you know, hype and
- 9:11Speaker 2: all that kind of jazz kind of goes out the
- 9:13Speaker 2: window and it's, you know, those 90 plus minutes that
- 9:16Speaker 2: really count and, you know, Milan and Amarim and everybody
- 9:20Speaker 2: was able to get on board on it and plot
- 9:24Speaker 2: a big victory. Obviously, the fight for Europe is tight.
- 9:31Speaker 2: There's a lot of teams up there. Some surprise teams,
- 9:34Speaker 2: some usual suspects, and Milan trying to get back into there.
- 9:41Speaker 2: It was exciting. Obviously, it's now over. We focus over
- 9:45Speaker 2: for tomorrow's match in the Europa League, but It was
- 9:49Speaker 2: great to celebrate over the weekend and hopefully we can
- 9:55Speaker 2: build off this and go forward. But just, again, chapeau
- 10:01Speaker 2: to Marrera. Like I said, I think, obviously, Pulisic, Rabiot,
- 10:07Speaker 2: you know, our big player stepped up. Modric, right, played
- 10:10Speaker 2: a good portion of the game as well. So just
- 10:14Speaker 2: happy with the performance, even though, you know, missing some players.
- 10:19Speaker 2: but just on Inter's point of perspective, I think just weren't,
- 10:21Speaker 2: I don't know, Kivu, I don't know, it almost seemed
- 10:24Speaker 2: like they didn't, he wasn't, they weren't up for it, like,
- 10:26Speaker 2: it was weird, they kind of came out slow, kind
- 10:29Speaker 2: of took them a little bit of time, they had
- 10:32Speaker 2: that period, obviously, when they scored, that they were kind
- 10:34Speaker 2: of trying to switch that momentum around, but then second
- 10:36Speaker 2: half kicks off, and it was, it was, it seemed
- 10:39Speaker 2: like a bit more of, you know, the Milan dominance,
- 10:42Speaker 2: but regardless what it was, you know, they were able
- 10:44Speaker 2: to coast out of it, and 3-1, and, you know,
- 10:48Speaker 2: we'll take it, And it's, like I said, I think
- 10:53Speaker 2: the last eight derbies, Milan have not dropped points. Like
- 10:58Speaker 2: I said earlier, 40 games, the last 40 games, three inter,
- 11:00Speaker 2: three losses. Milan has those wins over them in those
- 11:03Speaker 2: three games that they did lose. So it speaks volumes,
- 11:06Speaker 2: but there's not derbies every week. So Milan has to
- 11:10Speaker 2: be able to take this result and this positivity and
- 11:14Speaker 2: this momentum and go forward throughout the season.
- 11:21Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, quickly. Uh, so Inter loses a battle, sorry,
- 11:26Speaker 1: loses place in the battle for first place, the three
- 11:29Speaker 1: points behind Lazio, but Lazio now, uh, they had a
- 11:32Speaker 1: two one win this weekend against, um, drawing a blank.
- 11:35Speaker 1: It was against Cali. Uh, who's, you know, slipping a
- 11:38Speaker 1: bit after a hot start. Um, how long guys, how
- 11:43Speaker 1: long do you guys think Lazio could keep it up?
- 11:45Speaker 1: At least being in first place. Cause you know, looking
- 11:47Speaker 1: at their, Looking at their games this weekend, it's Intercomo, Napoli-Lazzo,
- 11:50Speaker 1: and then we already have the international break. So I
- 11:53Speaker 1: think for Lazzo, their goal right now is to stay
- 11:55Speaker 1: in first through the international break.
- 11:57Speaker 2: I'll let Johnny go first, but I have some thoughts too.
- 12:00Speaker 3: I mean, like, so we all know with Gattuso, he's
- 12:05Speaker 3: always been a type of coach that if he comes
- 12:08Speaker 3: in on a short stint, he always has an immediate
- 12:10Speaker 3: impact on the team. He did the same for Milan
- 12:12Speaker 3: when he came in for that. Because there was a
- 12:13Speaker 3: point where he did a short little stint at Milan
- 12:15Speaker 3: and helped out the team. He did for Napoli and
- 12:17Speaker 3: he won the Coppa Italia. So it seems like the
- 12:19Speaker 3: short stint for Lazio is working out. And when we had, uh,
- 12:22Speaker 3: got Joe on, you know, like we discussed it, you know,
- 12:24Speaker 3: like he's a, he is a motivator in a dressing
- 12:26Speaker 3: room and you know, it probably has been doing wonders with,
- 12:29Speaker 3: you know, just getting the group together and also his formation, right.
- 12:32Speaker 3: His style of play, you know, maybe he's thinking like a,
- 12:34Speaker 3: like kind of like a lot of the Agamotto where
- 12:37Speaker 3: it's like the best defense is a high, high, high offensive,
- 12:40Speaker 3: like a hyper offense, you know? So, um, it's working out,
- 12:44Speaker 3: he's getting results, uh, is this something that we have
- 12:46Speaker 3: to start considering, you know, maybe just might be their year.
- 12:50Speaker 3: I think it might, it might be their year at
- 12:52Speaker 3: this point because a five game win streak is like, okay, fine. Like,
- 12:55Speaker 3: you know, like, like maybe some good factors or whatnot,
- 12:59Speaker 3: and maybe some things have been just going your way, but.
- 13:01Speaker 4: Like a 10 game undefeated streak.
- 13:04Speaker 2: Yeah. They're undefeated. Yeah.
- 13:05Speaker 4: It's, it's almost, that's a quarter of the season's already
- 13:07Speaker 4: passed guys. Like a quarter of the season. Like it's
- 13:10Speaker 4: at some point, when do we.
- 13:11Speaker 3: Chalk it up to like, okay, it's actually the team
- 13:13Speaker 3: overall is just, clicking and just like lightning in a bottle.
- 13:16Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
- 13:18Speaker 3: Uh, is this something that we can expect that it's
- 13:20Speaker 3: going to continue on, uh, like the years to come?
- 13:23Speaker 3: I think it's too soon to say, uh, too soon
- 13:25Speaker 3: to say, but for this season, it's, it's been working.
- 13:29Speaker 3: And honestly, you have to give kudos to them.
- 13:31Speaker 2: Um, yeah.
- 13:33Speaker 3: Now, like I said, Gattuso is a very short term
- 13:36Speaker 3: type of manager. He's never been a longterm type of manager.
- 13:39Speaker 3: So my crystal ball thing is like, uh, kind of
- 13:45Speaker 3: predicting that this year might go very well for them
- 13:47Speaker 3: and it might lead into a Scudetto.
- 13:48Speaker 2: It might.
- 13:49Speaker 3: And if it, if it does happen, it's probably going
- 13:51Speaker 3: to be a well-deserved one, but is it going to
- 13:54Speaker 3: be sustained for the upcoming seasons? I don't think so,
- 13:57Speaker 3: but they're not going to care if they win a championship,
- 13:59Speaker 3: you know? So a quarter, a quarter of the way
- 14:02Speaker 3: in doing very well, you know, against when some, some
- 14:08Speaker 3: wins against some big teams too. Like it's not like
- 14:10Speaker 3: as if they're, they're just chilling around, you know, they beat,
- 14:13Speaker 3: They beat Napoli, right?
- 14:15Speaker 4: They beat Juve.
- 14:16Speaker 3: It's like they're beating the teams that they– they're beating
- 14:18Speaker 3: the bigger, quote-unquote, bigger teams, despite Napoli's shortcomings this season
- 14:21Speaker 3: and Juve's difficulties this year. You know, it's still a
- 14:24Speaker 3: team that on quality on paper can be a dangerous
- 14:26Speaker 3: team any day of the night.
- 14:28Speaker 4: Any day of the night.
- 14:29Speaker 2: Any night of the week.
- 14:30Speaker 3: Any day of the night is going to be a
- 14:32Speaker 3: new sound clip for this podcast.
- 14:36Speaker 4: Any day of the night. It's like, it's like Cafe Olympico,
- 14:40Speaker 4: open the night instead.
- 14:41Speaker 2: Of open day and night. Yeah, I love it.
- 14:45Speaker 1: Well, one thing I'll add, it's almost, it's almost like
- 14:49Speaker 1: when Napoli won the Scudetto two years ago, you know,
- 14:52Speaker 1: they came off a bad season, finishing 10th, you know,
- 14:55Speaker 1: then next season, they don't play in any European competition
- 15:00Speaker 1: and now Lazio, they're coming off not the best season,
- 15:04Speaker 1: no European competition and they're just focusing on Serie A
- 15:06Speaker 1: and sometimes... These teams, especially under a new coach, that's
- 15:13Speaker 1: recipes for success where they can focus on one thing
- 15:15Speaker 1: and not have to worry about squad rotation for twice-a-week
- 15:17Speaker 1: games or whatnot. And it's working so far.
- 15:20Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 15:21Speaker 2: No, listen, you have to respect it because everybody chalked
- 15:25Speaker 2: him off at the beginning of the season, including us, right?
- 15:28Speaker 2: Nick had... I'm going to have to put Nick on
- 15:31Speaker 2: expose here, but... you know, he predicted, you know, Gattuso,
- 15:35Speaker 2: the first coach fired and unfortunately, or fortunately for, for
- 15:38Speaker 2: whoever's listening, he got that wrong. So, um, but no, listen,
- 15:42Speaker 2: you have to respect it. And to Johnny's point and
- 15:44Speaker 2: he made it well, you know, it's, it's 10 games undefeated.
- 15:47Speaker 2: You know, they're one of the few undefeated teams in the, in,
- 15:50Speaker 2: in the top five leagues. So, you know, that's something
- 15:52Speaker 2: you can't really, you know, roll over and kind of
- 15:55Speaker 2: look past. So, you know, we have to, uh, we
- 15:59Speaker 2: have to respect it. I think we have to maybe, uh,
- 16:02Speaker 2: slowly slowly you know apologize to Gattuso because you know
- 16:06Speaker 2: like him or not as a manager he's he's getting
- 16:08Speaker 2: something across to these players and getting the job done
- 16:11Speaker 2: so far this season um I think they have well
- 16:15Speaker 2: one job for sure I know against Milan it was
- 16:17Speaker 2: the 2-2 if I'm not mistaken or something like that
- 16:20Speaker 2: yeah it was the draw against Milan but you know
- 16:21Speaker 2: they're regardless of that you know they've won pretty much
- 16:24Speaker 2: all the other games and uh it's it's impressive and
- 16:27Speaker 2: you know You would think it's like, okay, when are
- 16:30Speaker 2: they going to slip up? You know, fans just, you know,
- 16:31Speaker 2: some rival fans are like, okay, when are they going
- 16:33Speaker 2: to slip up? When are they going to slip up?
- 16:35Speaker 2: And so far it's been, you know, a pretty, a
- 16:38Speaker 2: pretty smooth, like quote unquote smooth path for Lazio, which
- 16:42Speaker 2: again is a breath of fresh air because this is
- 16:44Speaker 2: a club that has been going through, you know, like
- 16:47Speaker 2: you said, Johnny, for, you know, you know, if it'd
- 16:48Speaker 2: be a Napoli's, you know, shortcomings or, or, or, you know,
- 16:51Speaker 2: Juve's difficulties, you know, Lazio, as we've spoken about, if
- 16:56Speaker 2: it be with Biagio, if it be with, you know,
- 16:57Speaker 2: just us off air or just whoever, you know, we've
- 17:00Speaker 2: spoken to, you know, it's, it's not, you know, sunshine
- 17:05Speaker 2: and rainbows over, over Alonso, right. You know, the, the fans,
- 17:08Speaker 2: you know, you know, you know, going against, you know, ownership,
- 17:11Speaker 2: Lotito and all this. So not being in the stadium.
- 17:14Speaker 2: And I think Gattuso is kind of putting a bit
- 17:16Speaker 2: more of a, a positive on such like a negative
- 17:20Speaker 2: situation that's been going on for, for quite some time now. So, Um, again,
- 17:25Speaker 2: will it last? I don't know. I think that's only
- 17:27Speaker 2: time will tell. Um, but again, even if it doesn't last,
- 17:32Speaker 2: if they get back into Europe, if they just get
- 17:33Speaker 2: back on a, on a, on a, on a positive note,
- 17:36Speaker 2: on a positive run, I think that's, you know, for
- 17:40Speaker 2: them is a plus is a bonus because they've been
- 17:43Speaker 2: in such a negative, you know, uh, space for, for so,
- 17:48Speaker 2: for so long, it seems like now that, you know,
- 17:52Speaker 2: it's about time, I guess, maybe, you know, they kind
- 17:54Speaker 2: of turn the page. And if it's going to take
- 17:56Speaker 2: a guy like Gattuso to do it, I think he's
- 17:59Speaker 2: more than capable to do that short term, like you said, Gianni.
- 18:03Speaker 2: Long term, it pains me to say because I'm a
- 18:06Speaker 2: Gattuso lover, you know, as a player, as, you know,
- 18:09Speaker 2: just what he embodies. Will that go past this season
- 18:14Speaker 2: into seasons to come? I would probably have to say
- 18:17Speaker 2: no as well. But, And again, people are going to
- 18:21Speaker 2: be recency biased. You know, the quote-unquote failure with the Azzurri,
- 18:26Speaker 2: you know, kind of have a bitter taste in a
- 18:29Speaker 2: lot of Italians' mouths. And, you know, he goes quickly
- 18:32Speaker 2: over to Lazio and in like a blink of an
- 18:35Speaker 2: eye kind of turned the tide with this club. So
- 18:39Speaker 2: we have to respect it. We have to give our
- 18:41Speaker 2: props to Gattuso and the players, right? The players are
- 18:44Speaker 2: doing it, right? They believe in what he's putting out
- 18:47Speaker 2: there and they're performing. You know, I saw, unfortunately, you know,
- 18:52Speaker 2: Zakani picked up a bit of an injury. I think
- 18:54Speaker 2: he might be out for a little bit, but it
- 18:56Speaker 2: kind of seems like it's next man up for Lazio,
- 18:59Speaker 2: whoever it may be. So, again, awful. If it's them,
- 19:06Speaker 2: I guess, you know, we'll take them over Inter at
- 19:09Speaker 2: the top. But they have to keep, you know, their
- 19:14Speaker 2: heads on right as well because, like I said earlier,
- 19:16Speaker 2: there's a lot of teams fighting for if it'd be
- 19:19Speaker 2: the Scudetto or just, you know, Europe in general. So, uh,
- 19:22Speaker 2: they don't want to get, you know, uh, lost in, uh,
- 19:24Speaker 2: lost in the mix. If, uh, if things, you know, uh,
- 19:27Speaker 2: end up going a bit more South, you know, so
- 19:29Speaker 2: we'll see.
- 19:29Speaker 1: So what are you guys are saying? Gattuso as a
- 19:33Speaker 1: coach sometimes may be good. Sometimes maybe shit. Now he's
- 19:36Speaker 1: sometimes maybe good.
- 19:37Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 19:38Speaker 1: Malakia. Malakia.
- 19:40Speaker 2: Everything's Malakia. Yeah.
- 19:43Speaker 1: Uh, but, uh, Johnny, so yeah, Juve Napoli on the weekend. Um, yeah,
- 19:48Speaker 1: I didn't, You had a chance to watch much of this.
- 19:50Speaker 2: Game.
- 19:50Speaker 1: First 20, 30 minutes or so.
- 19:52Speaker 2: Not much happened to that.
- 19:54Speaker 1: Obviously saw the highlights. I was very happy with the win.
- 19:57Speaker 1: Surprised with the win. I'm going to be honest. Surprised
- 19:59Speaker 1: with the win. I was expecting a draw or a loss.
- 20:03Speaker 4: But well, don't forget, no legity for Napoli for that game.
- 20:09Speaker 1: Was Landucci back on the touchline?
- 20:13Speaker 2: Landucci, Landucci. For you guys, I don't know. I didn't
- 20:17Speaker 2: see who was on there.
- 20:19Speaker 4: You guys had Spalletti. We didn't have Allegri.
- 20:20Speaker 1: He was back because he missed two games.
- 20:23Speaker 4: Yeah, this was the game Allegri had to miss.
- 20:27Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
- 20:28Speaker 4: At this point, I don't think it's going to even
- 20:31Speaker 4: make a difference.
- 20:31Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't matter.
- 20:32Speaker 1: No, Landucci's a folk hero with Juve anyways because... when
- 20:37Speaker 1: anytime Allegri gets suspended during his Juve days, Longucci would
- 20:40Speaker 1: come in.
- 20:43Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 20:43Speaker 1: But look, Karim Alibagovic, I talked about him. I don't
- 20:47Speaker 1: know if it was last week, the week before. I
- 20:49Speaker 1: think he's a player that has promise. He's like 19
- 20:52Speaker 1: years old. And this was a game where Juve's wingers
- 20:55Speaker 1: won between Alibagovic and Boga scoring. And I think that's
- 21:00Speaker 1: exactly what I said. I think it was last week. And,
- 21:03Speaker 1: they're going to have to rely on their strong wingers.
- 21:05Speaker 1: They do have strength in wingers. Right now, it's the
- 21:08Speaker 1: strikers that are lacking. But when you have the depth
- 21:11Speaker 1: where you can bring a guy like Boga off the
- 21:13Speaker 1: bench and score, and, you know, yes, it was down
- 21:18Speaker 1: to 10 men. You know, I think that's the positive.
- 21:21Speaker 1: Like I always say with Juve, the trick now is
- 21:23Speaker 1: it's consistency because to go out and lose 2-0 to
- 21:28Speaker 1: Genoa in a game they were absolutely flat, Genoa played well.
- 21:31Speaker 1: I think they're having a a fine season under De Rossi,
- 21:34Speaker 1: nothing spectacular. But, you know, they're not in the relegation battle,
- 21:39Speaker 1: which seems like the past few years, they kind of
- 21:41Speaker 1: have been. You know, after that game, I was very,
- 21:45Speaker 1: obviously very disappointed on the midweek game. And then, you know,
- 21:49Speaker 1: with Juve, sorry, with the Napoli game this weekend, like
- 21:52Speaker 1: I said, I had zero expectations. I was pleasantly surprised. Yeah,
- 21:58Speaker 1: I think it's just, we need to see more of
- 21:59Speaker 1: Alabaeguic from the start. and more consistency in, in terms
- 22:03Speaker 1: of goal scoring. And we'll, you know, they have the
- 22:05Speaker 1: game tomorrow against, uh, AZ Akbar. I think their name
- 22:09Speaker 1: is from the Netherlands and the Europa league. And then
- 22:11Speaker 1: they play Fiorentina on the weekend. Fiorentina is always tricky match.
- 22:15Speaker 1: They always somehow always have Uwe's number. So I, you know,
- 22:19Speaker 1: I'd like to see Uwe going to the international break
- 22:21Speaker 1: on a, on a high. I don't know if you
- 22:22Speaker 1: got the chance to watch the game, Johnny, um, or what?
- 22:26Speaker 3: Uh, uh, No, sadly, I didn't have a chance to
- 22:29Speaker 3: watch the game. The past few weeks have been very
- 22:33Speaker 3: busy because all of a sudden I'm getting a demand
- 22:37Speaker 3: of tutoring from kids and stuff. Unfortunately, I actually just
- 22:42Speaker 3: came back from tutoring two kids and I didn't even
- 22:43Speaker 3: have time to even watch Champions League games, which thankfully I.
- 22:47Speaker 4: Haven't been watching them because holy fuck, man.
- 22:51Speaker 3: No, but I managed to watch the 20-minute condensed highlights
- 22:54Speaker 3: to at least have some talking points. The issue with
- 23:01Speaker 3: the team itself in this game was it just seems
- 23:05Speaker 3: so disorganized.
- 23:07Speaker 4: Ball possession was fine.
- 23:08Speaker 3: It was equal, but it just seemed like Juve was
- 23:12Speaker 3: more deadly with the ball than Napoli was. Napoli didn't
- 23:14Speaker 3: really give themselves any opportunity to even try and apply
- 23:18Speaker 3: any pressure. They were trying too much to be too tactical.
- 23:21Speaker 3: They were trying too hard. Being down a man doesn't help,
- 23:25Speaker 3: but you were down 1-0 by that point anyways. and
- 23:28Speaker 3: the shots that went in are basically shots that were
- 23:32Speaker 3: perfectly placed, but Mare also could have been probably, you know,
- 23:35Speaker 3: kind of expecting them to come to his way and stuff.
- 23:37Speaker 3: But I don't even know where to pin the loss on.
- 23:44Speaker 3: Is it through disorganization from the team itself? Is it
- 23:46Speaker 3: because they're trying to play a system that doesn't exist?
- 23:49Speaker 3: Is it complacency from some core players? You could pick
- 23:53Speaker 3: a reason out of a hat, and you would probably
- 23:55Speaker 3: be accurate at this point for Napoli. the number one
- 23:59Speaker 3: thing that's easily fixable, obviously, is the whole Allegri issue.
- 24:03Speaker 3: As the days go by, his appointment seems more and
- 24:05Speaker 3: more of a non-fit. It's starting to get more and
- 24:10Speaker 3: more likely that it would be better to have gone
- 24:13Speaker 3: a different.
- 24:14Speaker 4: Direction than to keep Massimiliano Allegri.
- 24:16Speaker 3: Because even Cortomuzo, I don't think Cortomuzo is having your
- 24:21Speaker 3: five guys back look scrambling for a ball. and all
- 24:24Speaker 3: these point blank chances, even though nothing went in during
- 24:27Speaker 3: that time, it just, it didn't feel structured and I'm
- 24:29Speaker 3: not a big fan of it.
- 24:30Speaker 4: So it's the, the heart's not there. That's, that's the thing.
- 24:36Speaker 3: And I don't know what you're going to do to
- 24:39Speaker 3: kind of like, let's say jumpstart the heart for it
- 24:41Speaker 3: to start clicking, but it's just, there's no fire in
- 24:47Speaker 3: the team. It seems like people are just phoning it
- 24:50Speaker 3: in already. And it just like, okay, let's just get
- 24:52Speaker 3: through the season at this point, which, It's only 10
- 24:54Speaker 3: games in. You still have 28 games left to play.
- 24:56Speaker 3: It's still early on to start making those kind of decisions.
- 25:02Speaker 4: I mean, Juve obviously merited a win. I'm not going
- 25:04Speaker 4: to say that they didn't deserve the win.
- 25:05Speaker 2: They did.
- 25:06Speaker 4: They definitely took their chances. The goals were beautiful. I'm
- 25:10Speaker 4: not going to lie. The shots were gorgeous. It just
- 25:13Speaker 4: feels like as if.
- 25:17Speaker 3: As a player, you get deflated because there's not much
- 25:18Speaker 3: you can do on those chances besides stopping the ball carrier.
- 25:21Speaker 1: But it's Who do you pin that on?
- 25:25Speaker 3: Do you pin it on the goalie for not being
- 25:26Speaker 3: in the perfect moment to stop that shot, especially if
- 25:29Speaker 3: it's from a distance? Or do you blame the man
- 25:31Speaker 3: who's supposed to mark that player that he gave him
- 25:32Speaker 3: time to get a shot off? Like I said, this
- 25:38Speaker 3: whole season has been a mess of just trying to
- 25:42Speaker 3: find out what works, what doesn't work, and everything that
- 25:44Speaker 3: hasn't been working. And if I'm Di Laurentiis at this point,
- 25:49Speaker 3: I'm just looking at my drawing board and thinking, what's
- 25:53Speaker 3: it going to take to just turn the season around
- 25:57Speaker 3: at this point?
- 25:58Speaker 4: Because Scudetto's out the window. Champions League is out the window.
- 26:01Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
- 26:04Speaker 3: Like, it's like, especially after today's game against Porto, it's like,
- 26:07Speaker 3: I don't have faith in this team for even making
- 26:09Speaker 3: it into the top 24.
- 26:10Speaker 2: Like, I'll be real.
- 26:11Speaker 4: Like, I don't, I don't at all. So, yeah.
- 26:16Speaker 2: Maybe that's a better thing for Serie A. I don't know.
- 26:19Speaker 3: But it's not just a better thing for Serie A.
- 26:21Speaker 3: It's more like, It has nothing to do with, oh,
- 26:25Speaker 3: are the players tired?
- 26:26Speaker 4: They're not tired.
- 26:27Speaker 3: Are the players not quality enough? There's quality on the team,
- 26:31Speaker 3: you know? It's just more like.
- 26:32Speaker 2: Well, there's injuries too.
- 26:33Speaker 4: There's injuries too, yes, but it's still overall like a not.
- 26:40Speaker 3: Like it's a deep-rooted issue, you know? Because if we're
- 26:46Speaker 3: thinking about it, I'm going through the list of injuries
- 26:47Speaker 3: right now.
- 26:49Speaker 4: Quality injuries.
- 26:50Speaker 1: Buongiorno.
- 26:51Speaker 2: Buongiorno. Buongiorno. Buongiorno.
- 26:56Speaker 4: David Nettis, for sure.
- 26:57Speaker 3: Spinazzola is so-so in terms of quality. Stanislaw Ljubljana is quality,
- 27:03Speaker 3: I guess you can say.
- 27:04Speaker 4: Hoyland is not really injured-injured. He was just sick.
- 27:09Speaker 3: Vanya could have been great in this match. I think
- 27:11Speaker 3: Vanya is probably the better keeper at this point. Besides that,
- 27:14Speaker 3: it's like, you know, Juve's missing Cosenzal.
- 27:18Speaker 4: They were missing. I'm seeing here on the list.
- 27:20Speaker 3: They're missing Cousin Sal, they're missing Locatelli, they're missing Durab,
- 27:22Speaker 3: they're missing Yildiz. It's not like as if you're playing
- 27:24Speaker 3: against Juve's top crop of players either. You know what
- 27:27Speaker 3: I'm saying? I wouldn't want to use injuries as an
- 27:31Speaker 3: excuse too much. You said it best with Lazio. Lazio
- 27:36Speaker 3: had that next man up mentality. That's what you need
- 27:40Speaker 3: for Napoli. That's what you need for any team if
- 27:41Speaker 3: you want a team to be successful. You have to
- 27:43Speaker 3: have that next man up. And if you're struggling with
- 27:46Speaker 3: your players in terms of that department of trying to
- 27:48Speaker 3: push themselves, You know what I'm trying to say?
- 27:52Speaker 4: It's not a good sign.
- 27:52Speaker 3: So, all in all, this game, especially when you lose
- 27:56Speaker 3: against Juve, I just can't stand losing to Juve.
- 28:00Speaker 4: But it is what it is.
- 28:01Speaker 2: And stomach it.
- 28:02Speaker 4: Yeah, no.
- 28:03Speaker 3: It's a rival team. It's like when the Bruins lose
- 28:06Speaker 3: to the Habs. It's just like, I hate my life,
- 28:08Speaker 3: you know?
- 28:09Speaker 4: Thankfully, that doesn't happen too often, you know? Yeah, there
- 28:11Speaker 4: you go. 2-1-1 last year with the Habs. Let's see
- 28:13Speaker 4: what happens next week.
- 28:15Speaker 2: Just to go back to Allegri and Cortomuso just quickly,
- 28:19Speaker 2: I just wanted to throw in a fun line there,
- 28:21Speaker 2: but you can't even win Cortomuso if the horse doesn't
- 28:24Speaker 2: even get out of the gate, right?
- 28:25Speaker 1: I agree.
- 28:26Speaker 2: It's one of those things too, right? So it's, I think,
- 28:30Speaker 2: you know, you can't even play that way or try
- 28:34Speaker 2: to play that way. And obviously we've said it time
- 28:37Speaker 2: and time again on the show and just any fan
- 28:40Speaker 2: of any sports team in any sport, you know, knows
- 28:44Speaker 2: that the easy escape out of any negative situation is
- 28:48Speaker 2: to fire the coach. And already today I was seeing
- 28:51Speaker 2: early reports of him probably getting fired. But what I
- 28:54Speaker 2: always say with that is, especially now, like in, in season,
- 28:58Speaker 2: who are you going to bring? Who's going to make
- 29:00Speaker 2: an instant impact? Will they make an instant impact? Will
- 29:03Speaker 2: the players adapt to what they have to, what that
- 29:08Speaker 2: set coach is going to bring to the club? And
- 29:11Speaker 2: how sustainable is it? So there's a lot of factors
- 29:14Speaker 2: in just saying, okay, you know what, Max, you're out.
- 29:18Speaker 2: I think it's more than that. I think the whole
- 29:22Speaker 2: Corto Muzo era, it seems to be done. It's like, okay,
- 29:27Speaker 2: this is circa 2016, 2017 era, it seems like. It's
- 29:32Speaker 2: no longer in 2026. So, again, I think the game
- 29:36Speaker 2: has evolved and I don't know if Allegri has and
- 29:40Speaker 2: it we I saw last season Johnny and again I
- 29:44Speaker 2: it almost pains to kind of have to pass him
- 29:47Speaker 2: over to you but it's it was one of these
- 29:50Speaker 2: ones that for me you know many fans said Gattuso
- 29:53Speaker 2: to Lazio was a weird one maybe Saudi to a
- 29:56Speaker 2: talent like some of these ones were weird you know
- 29:59Speaker 2: appointments and Allegri to Napoli was a weird one for me.
- 30:03Speaker 1: I agree.
- 30:04Speaker 2: Didn't know how it was going to work out. Obviously,
- 30:08Speaker 2: you know, as a neutral, you know, you want maybe
- 30:10Speaker 2: to have some sort of competitive squad because the squad
- 30:14Speaker 2: on paper is not, I say this even with Juve,
- 30:17Speaker 2: even though the results that they have are so-so or
- 30:20Speaker 2: just terrible at times, the squad list on paper is
- 30:25Speaker 2: not a bad one. I mean, it should be competitive.
- 30:29Speaker 2: It should be Okay, maybe not saying, you know, you
- 30:32Speaker 2: have to fight, you know, have to be number one
- 30:34Speaker 2: and be undefeated and all this like every year. But
- 30:37Speaker 2: I think it's competitive enough to be somewhat, you know,
- 30:41Speaker 2: entertaining to watch. But I think Allegri, I don't know.
- 30:46Speaker 2: The fans, the fans are pissed, that's for sure.
- 30:48Speaker 1: Oh, 100%.
- 30:49Speaker 2: The players, I listened to what Poitano had to say
- 30:53Speaker 2: after today in the Champions League. He's like, we're, you know,
- 30:56Speaker 2: abbastanza incansato. So they're pissed, right? So it's like enough's
- 31:06Speaker 2: enough now. I think it's like, when is it going
- 31:07Speaker 2: to change? And if it doesn't change soon, it might
- 31:10Speaker 2: be for the whole season. So we'll see what happens.
- 31:12Speaker 2: But I always say, like I was alluding to, the
- 31:18Speaker 2: grass isn't always greener. And how fast of an implication
- 31:21Speaker 2: will this new coach, if this new coach does come,
- 31:24Speaker 2: will play on this team? I guess only time will tell.
- 31:28Speaker 1: Uh, Johnny, uh, Napoli, uh, sorry, Roma. Um, uh, yeah, five,
- 31:35Speaker 1: two win on the weekend, you know, positive vibes going
- 31:37Speaker 1: to champions league. They get up early in, in old Trafford, uh,
- 31:41Speaker 1: goals from Sule and, uh, in Malin on the pound
- 31:43Speaker 1: on a penalty. And then, and then bam, you get, uh, Fernandez,
- 31:47Speaker 1: Bruno Fernandez penalty, and then two goals from Mateo Scunia, uh, 80,
- 31:51Speaker 1: 36 minute before he gets red card. So crazy game
- 31:53Speaker 1: from Mateo Scunia. Um, Yeah, another blown lead for Gasparini
- 31:59Speaker 1: at Old Trafford. I know the same thing happened with Atalanta.
- 32:02Speaker 1: I forget what year. Roma, I think it's second blown
- 32:05Speaker 1: lead this season.
- 32:06Speaker 2: In the Champions League. Against Real, they lost it too, right?
- 32:08Speaker 2: Against Real.
- 32:09Speaker 1: They're starting to play like the Montreal Canadiens over here.
- 32:12Speaker 1: But I know you didn't get a chance to watch
- 32:14Speaker 1: the game, but do you think this is something that
- 32:16Speaker 1: maybe will get into their psyche a bit and kind
- 32:18Speaker 1: of impact not only the Champions League campaign, but maybe
- 32:22Speaker 1: Serie A too?
- 32:25Speaker 4: Um, cause that's the thing, like in city, it's a
- 32:28Speaker 4: different story.
- 32:29Speaker 3: It's just Gasparini's game is just not transitioning to, uh, to, to, uh,
- 32:35Speaker 3: to champions league.
- 32:36Speaker 4: Now, yes, Roma does have injuries too.
- 32:38Speaker 3: Like that's something that, you know, you have to also consider, uh,
- 32:42Speaker 3: some people on it. It was like Svilar being one
- 32:44Speaker 3: of the best keepers in the league, probably a top,
- 32:47Speaker 3: you could argue top 10 in Europe or top, you
- 32:49Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like he, not having him makes
- 32:52Speaker 3: a big difference in terms of like covering up mistakes
- 32:55Speaker 3: for the defense, but you know, not having Kone either,
- 32:58Speaker 3: you know, or like, like, like Kone is like another
- 33:02Speaker 3: crucial player, but I digress.
- 33:04Speaker 4: It's, it's the same point as Napoli.
- 33:05Speaker 3: It's like, you can't just always say that the injuries,
- 33:08Speaker 3: like all we lost because of injuries, unless.
- 33:10Speaker 4: Your entire starting lineup is devastated. That's a different story.
- 33:13Speaker 3: But you know, what I've noticed with the squad after
- 33:17Speaker 3: the Real Madrid game and after the Manchester United game,
- 33:21Speaker 3: is that they don't have, like I alluded to this
- 33:25Speaker 3: against Real Madrid, and it's the same thing versus Manchester United.
- 33:28Speaker 4: They don't have that killer mentality.
- 33:30Speaker 3: They don't have that, you know, like, yeah, you're probably
- 33:35Speaker 3: being successful right now, but now you're playing against the
- 33:38Speaker 3: big boys. This is what it's going to take to
- 33:39Speaker 3: stay with the big boys, right? So you can hang
- 33:42Speaker 3: out with the big boys in Serie A. You proved
- 33:44Speaker 3: it last year by squeezing into the top four for
- 33:46Speaker 3: Champions League, and you're doing it this.
- 33:48Speaker 4: Year by also competing for the Scudetto again.
- 33:51Speaker 3: But in all reality, now Champions League is with all
- 33:56Speaker 3: these big-time clubs with these big-time players that know what
- 33:59Speaker 3: it takes to get to the next round.
- 34:02Speaker 4: And you have players on your club that barely sniff
- 34:05Speaker 4: Champions League competition, barring some names. For me, what this
- 34:13Speaker 4: shows is that it's a lack of competition maturity. competition maturity.
- 34:20Speaker 4: That's what it feels like for Roma.
- 34:22Speaker 3: Uh, especially after missing out on champions league for eight
- 34:25Speaker 3: seasons now, right now they're back in it.
- 34:27Speaker 4: Sorry. Seven seasons now that they're back in.
- 34:29Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 34:30Speaker 4: Seven seasons, seven, eight seasons. Let's say, you know, like
- 34:33Speaker 4: now you're back in it.
- 34:34Speaker 3: Like, especially with a different crop to players that, you know,
- 34:37Speaker 3: different coaching, you know, like it's, you have to kind
- 34:40Speaker 3: of rebuild that. You kind of have to rebuild that
- 34:42Speaker 3: consistency and image and you're going to have to grow
- 34:44Speaker 3: in it. So, um, Like, it's like night and day.
- 34:51Speaker 3: Gasperini-Zaroma for Serie A versus Gasperini-Zaroma for Champions League.
- 34:56Speaker 4: And Gasperini won a Europa League. It's not like as
- 34:59Speaker 4: if this guy.
- 34:59Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was just about to, like, add
- 35:00Speaker 2: that in. I don't know if you're going to mention it,
- 35:02Speaker 2: but it's like, you would think he would be able to...
- 35:05Speaker 2: I get your point with, you know, the players needing
- 35:08Speaker 2: experience in these competitions to be able to actually go
- 35:11Speaker 2: out and have that, like, killer instinct like you mentioned
- 35:14Speaker 2: or whatever you want to label it as. But it's
- 35:18Speaker 2: shocking to me that Gasperini, again, he's not Mourinho or
- 35:23Speaker 2: he's not the Ancelotti's of the world, but he's won,
- 35:28Speaker 2: he's experienced these competitions, he brought Atalanta to a quarterfinal,
- 35:36Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, or semifinal, whatever it was, back
- 35:39Speaker 2: with Atalanta when they've lost against PSG. So it's something
- 35:45Speaker 2: that I would, think that he would be able to
- 35:47Speaker 2: motivate these players which are on a high like they
- 35:50Speaker 2: don't like I mean it's not even like they need
- 35:52Speaker 2: in my eyes at least it doesn't seem like they
- 35:53Speaker 2: would need so much motivation but again Champions League lights
- 35:57Speaker 2: you know that anthem comes on it's a whole other
- 36:00Speaker 2: ball game it's no longer you know Serie A it's
- 36:04Speaker 2: no longer club football it's you know in terms of
- 36:06Speaker 2: your league it's more than that it's you know the
- 36:09Speaker 2: biggest club competition in the world so for me it's
- 36:14Speaker 2: a weird one because I think If they had, I
- 36:18Speaker 2: don't know, some of their other managers, maybe barring a Mourinho,
- 36:23Speaker 2: but some of these other managers that they've had, I
- 36:27Speaker 2: would maybe expect it to be a bit of this
- 36:30Speaker 2: up and down. But to have a guy like Gasperini,
- 36:34Speaker 2: love him or hate him, let's call it what it is,
- 36:36Speaker 2: he's been in the competition, he's won the Europa League,
- 36:42Speaker 2: with another club obviously, but you're on a high in
- 36:45Speaker 2: Serie A, You're competing first for top place. Are they
- 36:52Speaker 2: still undefeated, I believe, in Serie A? Or have they now... No.
- 36:56Speaker 4: No, they have one loss.
- 36:59Speaker 1: No, they didn't lose in Serie A.
- 37:01Speaker 4: I'm mixing them up with the Champions League stuff.
- 37:03Speaker 2: Yeah, right. So they're still undefeated in Serie A alongside
- 37:06Speaker 2: their neighbours in Lazio, right? So for me, it's like
- 37:09Speaker 2: with all this high and all this positive, it's a
- 37:12Speaker 2: bit baffling that they can't... I mean, they turn it on,
- 37:17Speaker 2: but they turn it on halfway. You want to fucking
- 37:21Speaker 2: choke against Real Madrid? Okay. You know what? I think
- 37:26Speaker 2: as a... I don't know. As a fan, I think
- 37:28Speaker 2: you can maybe chalk it up. It hurts. It stings.
- 37:31Speaker 2: You're pissed. But you can say, okay, fuck. You know what?
- 37:33Speaker 2: It was against Mourinho's Real. We'll stomach this one. But
- 37:38Speaker 2: against Man United in a team that's had so much...
- 37:44Speaker 2: you know, negativity, coaching changes, players not playing up to par,
- 37:49Speaker 2: that poor guy who can't cut his fucking hair because
- 37:52Speaker 2: they can't win five games in a row, right? The
- 37:55Speaker 2: United strand on Instagram. And you go and choke. I
- 38:00Speaker 2: don't want to say choke. I didn't catch all the game, but,
- 38:02Speaker 2: you know, kind of lose it the way they did.
- 38:05Speaker 2: It's a bit baffling to me, Johnny. I don't know.
- 38:08Speaker 4: I agree.
- 38:09Speaker 2: It's... I....
- 38:13Speaker 3: That's why I just chalk it up to maturity because
- 38:16Speaker 3: as a manager, how much can you control on the pitch?
- 38:19Speaker 4: You give them the strategy. You give them the tactics.
- 38:20Speaker 4: You give them the information. You give them the position.
- 38:23Speaker 4: But the manager is not playing the ball. Yeah.
- 38:26Speaker 3: He has to do his best to adapt to the competition.
- 38:28Speaker 3: And basically, okay, this is what their usual lineup is.
- 38:34Speaker 3: This is what their usual tactics is, how they usually play.
- 38:36Speaker 3: You tell your players what to watch out for. Watch
- 38:38Speaker 3: for the cut here. This guy's always a left-footed shooter,
- 38:41Speaker 3: so make sure that he can put the ball on
- 38:43Speaker 3: his right foot, blah, blah, blah. But at the end
- 38:45Speaker 3: of the day, you can only prep your players so much,
- 38:46Speaker 3: and they have to execute what goes on on the pitch.
- 38:48Speaker 2: That's fair.
- 38:49Speaker 4: So that's why it's like I'm funneling more. And you
- 38:51Speaker 4: said it perfectly.
- 38:52Speaker 3: Gasparini, yes, he's not the Mourinho's of the world, but
- 38:55Speaker 3: it's not as if he didn't win.
- 38:57Speaker 2: A trophy either.
- 38:59Speaker 3: You have to kind of funnel it to like, okay,
- 39:03Speaker 3: I know it's not Gasparini because he wouldn't be undefeated
- 39:05Speaker 3: in Serie A if it wasn't Gasparini. It's more like
- 39:09Speaker 3: the maturity of the team in these big competitions. That's
- 39:11Speaker 3: what I kind of feel like what it is.
- 39:13Speaker 2: That's well said.
- 39:18Speaker 1: Como, on the other hand. Yeah, great segue. Winter won
- 39:22Speaker 1: 3-0 against Feyenoord. Napoli lost 4-1 today. I'm drawing a
- 39:28Speaker 1: blank on the opponent, but... Porto. But obviously the big story.
- 39:34Speaker 1: I was shocked when I saw the scoreline. I thought
- 39:35Speaker 1: it was a mistake when I saw it on Instagram.
- 39:38Speaker 2: 9-1.
- 39:39Speaker 1: Como against Lens. Away 2. So they do this in
- 39:43Speaker 1: Lens in France, right?
- 39:44Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
- 39:46Speaker 1: Uh, do we cast with the hat trick? Nico pass score,
- 39:48Speaker 1: the Cunha camp, Liberale, Baturina and Papa Choli. Uh, so nine, one,
- 39:53Speaker 1: they almost doubled their goal total in the competition. They
- 39:56Speaker 1: had ended, they headed into the game with 10. They're
- 39:59Speaker 1: at 19. They're in fourth place in the league phase. Now, uh,
- 40:03Speaker 1: just behind, what was it? Uh, PSG, Bayern and Real Madrid, sorry, PSG,
- 40:08Speaker 1: Real Madrid and Arsenal. Um, Just insane. The only other
- 40:12Speaker 1: team who's scored more goals so far in the Champions
- 40:14Speaker 1: League is PSG. I know we talk about it so much, Como,
- 40:18Speaker 1: but like their rise, but for them to go out
- 40:22Speaker 1: and win 9-1. Look, I know Lens is not Man U,
- 40:27Speaker 1: but I saw a comment on Instagram. It's as if
- 40:30Speaker 1: Fabregas saw what happened with Gasparini. He's like, no, it's
- 40:34Speaker 1: not happening. And he just told the guys to go
- 40:36Speaker 1: out and continue scoring.
- 40:38Speaker 2: Yeah. No, listen, it's something that To even just, again,
- 40:43Speaker 2: bounce off to what Gianni just said with Gasperini and
- 40:47Speaker 2: translating what you do in Serie A to the European stage,
- 40:50Speaker 2: I think Sheik Fabregas and Como are doing the exact opposite.
- 40:55Speaker 2: They're doing what they're doing in Serie A, and then
- 40:58Speaker 2: they're also letting that translate into Europe. And these results
- 41:02Speaker 2: have been eye-opening for fans of the league, For fans of, obviously, Como,
- 41:09Speaker 2: but then, you know, just even outsiders as well. Because
- 41:12Speaker 2: now you have people, you know, watching, keeping an eye,
- 41:16Speaker 2: keeping tabs on this little team called Como. You know,
- 41:21Speaker 2: Thierry Henry, obviously, on CBS, giving them love, obviously having
- 41:26Speaker 2: a hand in the club as well. So he brings them,
- 41:30Speaker 2: you know, extra exposure. But all these results... are just
- 41:33Speaker 2: giving them added bonus. And I think Johnny had mentioned
- 41:35Speaker 2: this on a previous episode, but I just want to
- 41:39Speaker 2: kind of bring it up again because it's a reality.
- 41:43Speaker 2: And 9-1 against, like, listen, I don't care who it's against.
- 41:48Speaker 2: It's the Champions League. You know, if you made it
- 41:50Speaker 2: into the Champions League, if you like how they do it,
- 41:53Speaker 2: if you don't like how they do it, we can
- 41:55Speaker 2: discuss that for days. But these are Champions League, quote-unquote,
- 42:01Speaker 2: caliber teams. They're there for a reason. If it was
- 42:04Speaker 2: luck or not, I don't care. They managed to win
- 42:09Speaker 2: 9-1 on the road against, you know, a league team
- 42:14Speaker 2: in Lens. So Duvikas is having a great campaign, scoring
- 42:20Speaker 2: all kinds. Nikopas is, again, this is a player we've
- 42:24Speaker 2: spoken at length about, does not stop. It seems like
- 42:29Speaker 2: he's always in the headlines in a positive manner. Um,
- 42:33Speaker 2: great celebration as well, obviously paying, uh, paying tribute to, uh,
- 42:37Speaker 2: to this, to the Spanish player that, uh, unfortunately passed
- 42:40Speaker 2: away at Tenerife. Uh, you know, Fabregas had some words, uh,
- 42:44Speaker 2: to say as well in Spanish, uh, in the press
- 42:46Speaker 2: conference I had seen, which was, uh, which was a
- 42:49Speaker 2: nice touch. Um, you know, obviously that's, that was a,
- 42:52Speaker 2: that was pretty devastating news and, you know, they, they
- 42:56Speaker 2: go get this result. Uh, now are people going to say,
- 43:00Speaker 2: is this going to last? Again, I don't know if
- 43:02Speaker 2: it's going to last. I don't really care if it lasts,
- 43:05Speaker 2: but what they're doing is something that people should take notice.
- 43:09Speaker 2: You know, we were seeing in the stands at the
- 43:12Speaker 2: Super Game, Nick and I, you know, how teams are run,
- 43:17Speaker 2: you know, how they're run properly compared to when they're
- 43:20Speaker 2: not run super properly. Hint, hint, you know, wink, wink, hint, hint, right?
- 43:25Speaker 2: Here locally, if you know, you know. And again, that
- 43:29Speaker 2: translates to even what we're seeing with Como. This is
- 43:31Speaker 2: a club from top to bottom. Again, does it help
- 43:34Speaker 2: that they're fucking loaded? Sure. Absolutely. It definitely helps, you know,
- 43:38Speaker 2: cover some things that other clubs won't be able to cover,
- 43:42Speaker 2: you know, monetary, you know, in terms of financials. But
- 43:46Speaker 2: what they're doing, the plan that they have, the goal
- 43:48Speaker 2: that they've, you know, set for themselves, the way they play,
- 43:52Speaker 2: these are all things that are rolling. And again, you
- 43:56Speaker 2: have to, you know, give kudos to Fabregas because, like
- 44:02Speaker 2: we just alluded to, is, you know, what he's doing
- 44:04Speaker 2: in Serie A. You know, obviously, you know, there was
- 44:07Speaker 2: games where they, you know, they maybe collapsed and maybe
- 44:09Speaker 2: they dropped points, whatever. But for the most part, what
- 44:13Speaker 2: they're doing in Serie A is what they're doing in
- 44:14Speaker 2: Champions League. And some can argue even better what they're
- 44:17Speaker 2: doing in Champions League. So for a debut side as well,
- 44:22Speaker 2: like this is not like we're talking about, you know,
- 44:26Speaker 2: a team that hasn't been in Champions League and, you know,
- 44:28Speaker 2: they're coming back in Champions League and they're performing again.
- 44:31Speaker 2: You know, this is not like, you know, if it
- 44:33Speaker 2: be Man United or if it be, you know, Milan
- 44:36Speaker 2: in the past or even Juve, whatever, like whatever the
- 44:39Speaker 2: case is, it's like this is first time at bat Como,
- 44:44Speaker 2: you know, really shocking the world. So you have to
- 44:47Speaker 2: tip your hat off to it because 9-1, like I said,
- 44:50Speaker 2: is not something to look past. And this is a
- 44:54Speaker 2: team that plays for each other, that their system, no
- 44:57Speaker 2: matter what the case is, no matter who the opponent is,
- 45:00Speaker 2: they adapt and they're able to get the job done
- 45:06Speaker 2: in whatever capacity. And if they lose, they lose. But
- 45:10Speaker 2: they'll learn from it and they'll go into the next game.
- 45:14Speaker 2: Even if they lose a couple of games in a row,
- 45:16Speaker 2: they'll go back to the drawing boards and try to
- 45:18Speaker 2: make it work. So it's one positive, I think, in
- 45:23Speaker 2: Champions League for Italian clubs. So you kind of have to,
- 45:26Speaker 2: whether or not you love it or not, you have
- 45:28Speaker 2: to respect it.
- 45:32Speaker 1: Yeah, anything else you guys want to cover? I know
- 45:34Speaker 1: Europa League, so like I said, Juve plays easy. I
- 45:38Speaker 1: forgot to pronounce your name.
- 45:41Speaker 2: I think it's Ferenvaros. Ferenvaros? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, for me,
- 45:47Speaker 2: I could just say is, you know, after the bad
- 45:51Speaker 2: pill they had to swallow with Bournemouth, the 3-0. They've been,
- 45:55Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. Milan has been up and
- 45:58Speaker 2: down in Europa League and it's a weird one for
- 46:00Speaker 2: me because I think this is a competition that I
- 46:03Speaker 2: know they're obviously aiming to do well in Serie A,
- 46:05Speaker 2: which I like, but this competition in Europa League is
- 46:10Speaker 2: something that I think that they can do well in,
- 46:16Speaker 2: in some sort of capacity. I don't know if that
- 46:18Speaker 2: means winning it all, but Uh, I, I think they're
- 46:24Speaker 2: better than a three nil loss to, to, to Bournemouth or,
- 46:27Speaker 2: or clubs of that, of those natures, but we'll see. Uh,
- 46:31Speaker 2: it's a tough one. I know Amrim said it's, uh,
- 46:33Speaker 2: it's going to be a tough match. Um, you know,
- 46:36Speaker 2: he's still, you know, scratching his head at the Bologna loss,
- 46:39Speaker 2: you know, even after a big win in the Derby
- 46:41Speaker 2: against Inter. So this game is going to be another
- 46:44Speaker 2: one of those tough tests. And, um, I'm hopeful to
- 46:47Speaker 2: see what, uh, what they're able to, what they're able
- 46:49Speaker 2: to do. Um, again, for Navarro on paper, this should be, uh,
- 46:53Speaker 2: chalked up as a win, but we know in these competitions,
- 46:56Speaker 2: we know in Serie A, you know, there's no easy games. So, um, I'm,
- 47:01Speaker 2: I'm hopeful for, for a victory. And this is, uh,
- 47:04Speaker 2: this is a, this would be a victory that can
- 47:05Speaker 2: hopefully propel them to some, some momentum and momentum in
- 47:10Speaker 2: this competition rather than, you know, a win, a loss,
- 47:13Speaker 2: a win, a loss, and kind of stop the seesawing and,
- 47:16Speaker 2: and kind of really get on a, on a good path. So, um, yeah, I'm,
- 47:22Speaker 2: I'm curious to see how they, how that, uh, unfolds tomorrow.
- 47:25Speaker 2: A win, a loss, a win, a loss, a win,
- 47:28Speaker 2: a loss, a win, a loss. Right now, but it's true, right? So, uh, it's, it's,
- 47:34Speaker 2: it's the reality and it's kind of like, you know,
- 47:36Speaker 2: one other thing I wanted to mention is, is, is
- 47:38Speaker 2: Fiorentina there, obviously with the big win against Atalanta, Atalanta too,
- 47:42Speaker 2: Fiorentina too, these are clubs that are up and down,
- 47:44Speaker 2: up and down, up and down. So, um, we'll see, uh,
- 47:48Speaker 2: if those continue, but, um, Yeah, it's just interesting to see.
- 47:53Speaker 1: Yeah, even Atalanta. They lost to Parma on Monday.
- 47:58Speaker 2: That one too, yeah, right? Parma, the 3-0, right?
- 48:00Speaker 1: Yeah, very weird team, Atalanta. If you look at their
- 48:03Speaker 1: past five games, loss, draw, draw, loss, win. So they
- 48:07Speaker 1: haven't won four straight without a win now. They've been dropping.
- 48:12Speaker 1: They're in what spot now?
- 48:14Speaker 2: 13th. 13th place, right? Yeah. So it's an uphill climb.
- 48:19Speaker 2: For a team, again, on paper, like we've said, should
- 48:23Speaker 2: be capable enough. But unfortunately, I don't know really what
- 48:27Speaker 2: it is. If it's mentality, if it's Saudi, if it's
- 48:30Speaker 2: the players. But I don't know. It's a weird one.
- 48:33Speaker 2: Even Fiorentina, right? They go beat Atalanta 4-2 and then
- 48:38Speaker 2: they'll go lose against, I don't know.
- 48:40Speaker 1: Juve.
- 48:41Speaker 2: Juve. Juve or whatever, right? So, well, well, I won't
- 48:46Speaker 2: use Juve, but whatever, you know, like an Udinese, maybe
- 48:48Speaker 2: the other white and black team, but, um, yeah, just, uh,
- 48:52Speaker 2: it's a weird one. Serie A, we already know how
- 48:54Speaker 2: it is. So, um, you got guys like, uh, uh,
- 48:58Speaker 2: Varela there for, for Monza scoring at, uh, at ease, right?
- 49:02Speaker 2: So it's, uh, anything is possible, right? Raimondo too, right? Uh,
- 49:05Speaker 2: obviously the injury sucks, but, um, these players that are
- 49:09Speaker 2: coming out of the woodworks and scoring and doing well. So,
- 49:12Speaker 2: We'll see what happens, but any big games this weekend?
- 49:14Speaker 2: I didn't catch who it is.
- 49:16Speaker 1: Yeah, Intercomo.
- 49:17Speaker 2: Intercomo, yeah, huge.
- 49:19Speaker 1: Lots of them. Napoli-Lazio.
- 49:21Speaker 2: That's huge. Massive. No, it's massive.
- 49:25Speaker 1: It's those two.
- 49:26Speaker 2: It's those two.
- 49:26Speaker 1: They're the top teams.
- 49:29Speaker 2: Roma plays.
- 49:29Speaker 1: I'm going to throw in Caleri-Frozenone.
- 49:33Speaker 2: Bro, that's a fucking top game. That's a top game
- 49:35Speaker 2: these days.
- 49:36Speaker 1: It seems like it's... Yeah, like I said, Cavaliers, they've
- 49:39Speaker 1: kind of been slipping a bit, but Frosinone, they're in
- 49:41Speaker 1: sixth place.
- 49:42Speaker 2: They're finding a way.
- 49:44Speaker 1: I know it's early on. I know it's only 10 games,
- 49:47Speaker 1: but look, there's 28 games left. They're at the one-third
- 49:50Speaker 1: mark of the season. I'm not saying they're going to
- 49:54Speaker 1: make Champions League, but let's say a top-10 finish. Even
- 49:57Speaker 1: a top-8 finish at this point needs to be Frosinone's goal.
- 50:01Speaker 1: I don't know if it's realistic, but it needs to
- 50:03Speaker 1: be their goal when they have 20 points in the
- 50:04Speaker 1: first 10 games. You know, Johnny, you do the math.
- 50:07Speaker 1: How many points is that over 38 games?
- 50:09Speaker 2: Of what? Sorry.
- 50:10Speaker 1: 20 points over 10 games. So over 38 games, what's doubled?
- 50:14Speaker 4: It's about 80 points.
- 50:16Speaker 1: Yeah. You could challenge him for the Scudetto with that.
- 50:18Speaker 2: 80 points. These days, exactly.
- 50:21Speaker 4: I mean, like you could say, sorry, multiply by 360.
- 50:23Speaker 2: Hold on.
- 50:23Speaker 3: No, if they have 20 points in the first 10
- 50:24Speaker 3: games and there's about maybe, there's about 40 games total
- 50:33Speaker 3: in the season.
- 50:34Speaker 1: It's 38 games, right?
- 50:35Speaker 4: It's 38, but it's near 40.
- 50:36Speaker 3: So it rounds off to 80 points, which you could
- 50:39Speaker 3: say 76 to 78 points, you could say.
- 50:43Speaker 2: That's a competitive number when you come down the stretch, right?
- 50:47Speaker 1: They just need to keep it up.
- 50:49Speaker 2: I like their coach, honestly. Aldini, I've liked what he's brought.
- 50:52Speaker 2: I mean, the enthusiasm, the hunger. I don't watch all
- 50:58Speaker 2: their games, right? But from what I've seen, uh, Alvini, he's,
- 51:01Speaker 2: he's really invested, uh, in the project and in the
- 51:04Speaker 2: club and in the team, the squad. So, um, again,
- 51:08Speaker 2: it helps. Well, now it doesn't help because he's going
- 51:10Speaker 2: to be out for, I think about a month or so,
- 51:12Speaker 2: but hopefully comes back soon and back in form, uh, Raimondo.
- 51:16Speaker 2: But it helps when you had a guy like that scoring, right?
- 51:18Speaker 2: I like, but then you have these unknown names for
- 51:21Speaker 2: a lot of people that are coming out of the
- 51:22Speaker 2: woodworks and scoring, right? Uh, the guy over the weekend,
- 51:25Speaker 2: I didn't catch his name there, but he has a,
- 51:26Speaker 2: an interesting last name. And, uh, If he's from Georgia,
- 51:30Speaker 2: I don't know, but these guys are coming out and performing.
- 51:36Speaker 2: And I think you have to chalk a bit up
- 51:39Speaker 2: to a guy like Alvini winning the charge. So again,
- 51:44Speaker 2: with all these topics that we've kind of discussed today,
- 51:47Speaker 2: it seems like only time will tell for a lot
- 51:49Speaker 2: of them, but ride the wave for as long as
- 51:53Speaker 2: you can. And for Lazio fans, You know, salutata like
- 51:56Speaker 2: a polista, right? It seems to be so right now. So, Biagio,
- 52:00Speaker 2: if you're listening, that one's for you.
- 52:02Speaker 1: Anyways, guys, that'll do it. Another good episode. Like I said,
- 52:06Speaker 1: Forza Supra this weekend.
- 52:07Speaker 2: Yeah, big time.
- 52:08Speaker 1: Big, big game.
- 52:09Speaker 2: Huge.
- 52:10Speaker 1: You know, their franchise history. So, hopefully, they get a
- 52:13Speaker 1: result in Cali... In Calgary. In Calgary.
- 52:17Speaker 2: Not in Sardinia, guys. They're not playing in Sardinia. They're
- 52:20Speaker 2: playing in Western Canada, in Calgary.
- 52:23Speaker 1: I'm going to have to clip that because... Even when
- 52:25Speaker 1: I was a kid, I remember like, you know, playing
- 52:27Speaker 1: FIFA 06, whatever. And, you know, going through the team
- 52:29Speaker 1: menus and you see Khalid, he's like, oh, like the
- 52:32Speaker 1: Calgary Flames over here.
- 52:34Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. Not that beautiful fly on a Sardinia, unfortunately.
- 52:38Speaker 1: Yeah, that's for sure. Adrian, where can people find us
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