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All That Glitters is Golden (The Golden Bachelorette Week Two) · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. It's Ashley
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  Speaker 2: and it's Ben, and we are here. Episode two recap Ben.
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  Speaker 3: Two, Episode two Recap.
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  Speaker 2: Two, Episode two recap. That makes sense, so much sense.
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  Speaker 2: Please don't ask me what my home's like right now.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so scatterbraind It's unreal. It took me like three
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  Speaker 2: hours to watch the hour and a half episode because
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  Speaker 2: I'm an idiot who was like, yeah, i'll watch it.
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  Speaker 2: I'll watch it when I'm with the kids tomorrow. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I'll have five hours to watch the one and a
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  Speaker 2: half hour episode. And guess what, it took like three
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  Speaker 2: hours to watch it when you're watching two kids because
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  Speaker 2: I decided not to watch it last night because I
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  Speaker 2: had to watch The Menanda's Brother Show till like one am.
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  Speaker 3: I watched that too, you have it's kind of boring
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  Speaker 3: to me? What, Yeah, I didn't think it was that great.
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  Speaker 2: Wait where are you at?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, like episode five?
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  Speaker 2: You're in episode five?
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  Speaker 3: You're bored.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna be deeply disturbed by episode five.
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  Speaker 3: I've been disturbed already. I don't think I like well, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's why I have to watch The Golden Bachelorette to
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  Speaker 3: get me. I have a great video of Jessica watching
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  Speaker 3: this week's episode and she just cries a lot. She
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  Speaker 3: think she finds it so sweet.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it is so sweet. These poor men in these stories,
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  Speaker 2: they're heartbreaking.
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  Speaker 3: It's uh, this this season so far has I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I think episode one is always a hard episode to
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  Speaker 3: make entertaining. I think it is kind of one of
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  Speaker 3: those filler episodes, like we talk about really.
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  Speaker 2: Like filler episode.
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  Speaker 3: But they did a tremendous job at bringing some character
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  Speaker 3: development into play, which we'll talk about some incredible group dates.
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  Speaker 3: I think the quote from my wife was they've had
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  Speaker 3: some really cute group dates on this episode, and I
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  Speaker 3: think they did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I like the group dates because you know their
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  Speaker 2: personality dates there.
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  Speaker 3: So great episode. Let's dive in. Let's start at the beginning.
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  Speaker 3: We get a little teaser at the beginning that Mark
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  Speaker 3: asks Joan in German to kiss him. This was unexpected, Ashley.
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  Speaker 3: I felt like Mark was kind of going to be
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  Speaker 3: a slow roller here, kind of take his time. He
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  Speaker 3: would kind of emerge towards the middle of the season,
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  Speaker 3: but he's diving in week one.
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  Speaker 2: What are you talking about? You thought he was gonna
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  Speaker 2: be slow You mean thought he thought he was gonna
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  Speaker 2: be slow to make moves?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like more quiet.
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  Speaker 2: I understand that, but like they want to make him
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  Speaker 2: front and center because if they're not together, they want
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  Speaker 2: him to be bachelor. So they're getting people on the
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  Speaker 2: Mark drain super early. They're already on the drain, but
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  Speaker 2: they want him to be like with the captain in
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  Speaker 2: the front seat.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's great that Mark is getting this treatment. And
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  Speaker 3: then Matt James's mom got the treatment where like we
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  Speaker 3: never saw her, I know, is that weird?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's sad. Yeah, she got a liminade night one.
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  Speaker 2: Poor thing. I was actually surprised by some of the
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  Speaker 2: eliminations in this episode because they were faces that we knew,
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  Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like usually an episode two,
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  Speaker 2: you're still eliminating faces that we don't really know. But
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  Speaker 2: these guys were doing and they were sweet. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: we'll go, we'll get there eventually. First we'll start with
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  Speaker 2: the group date actually with Mark the Marquis. Why did
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  Speaker 2: they have to have I don't think they had to
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  Speaker 2: tease the Marcus.
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  Speaker 3: I think it just brought us into the episode, okay,
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  Speaker 3: because they like doing that now right, yeah, okay, all right,
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  Speaker 3: Well then we get.
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  Speaker 2: Into the episode Group Date. First Group day has Gary, Bob, Jonathan,
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  Speaker 2: Charles l Mark, Jordan, Guy, and Keith and they are
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  Speaker 2: going to prom. This was a cute group. This was
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  Speaker 2: a cute date idea could.
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  Speaker 3: Have been awkward. I think when it was announced, I
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  Speaker 3: felt like, oh, this is going to be a really
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  Speaker 3: awkward date for all of them. It's going to be
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  Speaker 3: like kind of forced fun. But it wasn't. The guys
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  Speaker 3: made the most of it, and I think a lot
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  Speaker 3: of it has to do with the personalities of the
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  Speaker 3: people on date. I think these guys dove in and
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  Speaker 3: they added this their uniqueness to this prom and then
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  Speaker 3: also we got some personal stories based on prom. Some
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  Speaker 3: people stood out to me during this date, maybe unexpectedly,
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  Speaker 3: was Charles l. That is a guy that just didn't
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  Speaker 3: absolutely yeah he can really get you, can't he?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, gracious, guys, now something bet By saying
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  Speaker 2: goodness gracious, this guy is so freaking adorable, and like
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  Speaker 2: they're not going to end up together and I'm so
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  Speaker 2: sad about that, Like I'm sad that he's not going
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  Speaker 2: to get as far as this man's soul deserves to get.
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  Speaker 2: All I want is this for this man to find
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  Speaker 2: an amazing second love of his life if that's what
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  Speaker 2: he really wants. Oh, his wife was his first and
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  Speaker 2: only girlfriend. He was her first and only boyfriend. And oh,
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  Speaker 2: he's just a sweet, sweet man.
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  Speaker 3: It would be awesome if we thought there's a chance
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  Speaker 3: that Charles L could be the next Bachelor, But as
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  Speaker 3: you're saying, we kind of feel like Mark, if he's
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  Speaker 3: not with Joan, has already kind of taken that role.
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  Speaker 3: But like the Charles L's of the world are the
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  Speaker 3: people that we just watch and we're like, you're just
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  Speaker 3: it's just fun to see you. Like you're just a
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  Speaker 3: pure spirit. You're a good human and you're sweet and
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  Speaker 3: this is such a thing that you're out of your
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  Speaker 3: comfort zone on, but you've decided to do it. And
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  Speaker 3: as a result, I have so much just respect for
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  Speaker 3: the courage that you've shown. I want Charles L to
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  Speaker 3: be celebrated.
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  Speaker 2: He has such a sweetheart. Sitting watching him so on
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  Speaker 2: the bleachers by himself goodness. But then he said it
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  Speaker 2: was like the best time he's had in sixties when.
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  Speaker 3: He called his daughter and he said, I forget her name,
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  Speaker 3: but he goes, this is your dad. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: he has to say. How sweet was that conversation? It's
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  Speaker 3: just all of it was sweet with Charles l totally.
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  Speaker 2: The other standout during this episode is of course Jonathan,
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  Speaker 2: who gets the group date Rose and he shares this
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  Speaker 2: story about he was wow, he was the only person
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  Speaker 2: of color at his high school and he was always
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  Speaker 2: like not super, not really popular, never felt like he
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  Speaker 2: fit in. He never had like a girl's attention, and
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  Speaker 2: like you look at him and you're like, how did
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  Speaker 2: you not have a girl's attention? We know that you
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  Speaker 2: were definitely a stud, but you know it was a
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  Speaker 2: different time which and you know.
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  Speaker 3: We saw his high school picture. He's definitely blossomed. He
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  Speaker 3: was like a skinny little high schooler. But now he's
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  Speaker 3: just like he looks like he could be on the
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  Speaker 3: regular Bachelorette. He's like that good looking now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously, And his prom date been initially said yes
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  Speaker 2: and then in a classic like sitcom scenario, stands him
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  Speaker 2: up pretty much says changes her mind, and then he
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  Speaker 2: sat home during prom. It's really like a rom comm story.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was good that he got the Rose.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of guys there who gave
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  Speaker 3: it their best effort who definitely could have gotten that
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  Speaker 3: date Rose, but Jonathan deserved it, and I do think
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  Speaker 3: I could see a future between the two of them. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: do have good chemistry. Yeah. I even think if we're
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  Speaker 3: going to like fast forward a little bit and we
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  Speaker 3: look at the previews for the rest of the season,
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  Speaker 3: it feels like Jonathan's around a while based on how
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  Speaker 3: much he's kind of in those previews, so makes sense
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  Speaker 3: on why he got that group date Rose. This date, though, overall,
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  Speaker 3: showed these guys' personalities in the best of ways. We
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  Speaker 3: love Goldie. He is absolutely awesome, huge personality, really sweet.
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  Speaker 3: The way Gary yeah but they call she calls him Goldie, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just wanted to make sure.
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  Speaker 3: That the yeah yeah, she calls him Goldie. The way
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  Speaker 3: he responded to the gift that she later gave him
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  Speaker 3: from prom shows his like his side of gratefulness. I'm
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  Speaker 3: really enjoying Ashley. The chemistry amongst the men me too.
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  Speaker 3: They're so fun, like they have to fix the sink
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  Speaker 3: and stuff. Yeah, but like they're competitive like they all
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  Speaker 3: want time with Joan, they all like Joan, but yet
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  Speaker 3: they're all respectful of each other in the sense of
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  Speaker 3: they let people be who they want to be, and
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  Speaker 3: they kind of celebrate that. It's really fun to see
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  Speaker 3: the dynamics at play kind of in the house. I've
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  Speaker 3: loved just watching that side of this as well. A
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  Speaker 3: bunch of sixty year old men hanging out inside of
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  Speaker 3: a bachelor mansion, which brings me to the next point.
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  Speaker 3: When you're sixty years old, obviously you have health stuff,
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  Speaker 3: and we talk about that during this episode, but you
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  Speaker 3: also snore. And there's a big segment where we see
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  Speaker 3: all the guys napping because nobody can get sleep because
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  Speaker 3: Greg is snoring throughout the night. I think this is awesome.
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  Speaker 3: When was the last time that these men shared a
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  Speaker 3: room with this many other men and now they're having
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  Speaker 3: to sleep beside each other. I think it's hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, as the Navy captain said, it's been like twenty years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so good, so.
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  Speaker 2: Funny, and I yeah, I love the guy camaraderiates. And
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  Speaker 2: then there is Pascal and he was needing his own
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  Speaker 2: closet because he and he was trying to pay the
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  Speaker 2: guys one hundred dollars to do a load of laundry.
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  Speaker 2: This guy's so bougie. It's like, is he just like
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  Speaker 2: he seems? It's like you're token hired actor who's not
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  Speaker 2: a hired actor, but he's like that one from the season.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he admits it, right, he admits that he is
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  Speaker 3: like high maintenance. He says, I am high maintenance. I
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  Speaker 3: want to know though, if pascal Is doesn't do his
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  Speaker 3: own laundry because he's so wealthy that he doesn't need
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  Speaker 3: to think. So Okay, yeah, I want to know history,
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  Speaker 3: then I want to know more about it.
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  Speaker 2: I think this guy like owns a really well to
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  Speaker 2: do salon.
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  Speaker 3: Good for him. Yeah, what a deal. There's there's so
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  Speaker 3: many like fun backstories that will never get based on
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  Speaker 3: career pass and kind of what they do for a
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  Speaker 3: living in this house. One of the guys that stands
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  Speaker 3: out is obviously the one that gets the one on
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  Speaker 3: one chalk Chalk goes to the happiest place on Earth.
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  Speaker 3: Immediately we shouted Disneyland, no questions asked, and I'm so
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  Speaker 3: glad they went there.
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  Speaker 2: It was a cute date, fun date. She just wanted
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  Speaker 2: him to prove that he was fun. The first half
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  Speaker 2: of the day was like a little bit boring to me.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, all right, here they go like they're
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  Speaker 2: riding the rides and having a good time. It didn't
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  Speaker 2: really prove anything to me. But they're during the one
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  Speaker 2: on one again like it's just like another horribly sad story.
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  Speaker 2: He got married, his marriage last for twelve years, the
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  Speaker 2: mother of his children, and then like that just dissipated.
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  Speaker 2: And then he met Kathy who he's with her nine
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  Speaker 2: years until she got an awful form of what I
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  Speaker 2: think is brain cancer and she passed away five months
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  Speaker 2: after her diagnosis, and just so sad. She died in
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  Speaker 2: his arms, and they just bonded over, you know, losing
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  Speaker 2: the loves of their lives, and it happened, happening so quickly.
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  Speaker 3: Jock sounds like Peyton Manning when he talks. That's what
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  Speaker 3: I originally thought about chockad.
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  Speaker 2: That was in my notes to talk about today.
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  Speaker 3: Oh he does. He sounds just like bread Man.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly like it. But it's funny, You're like a Peyton's
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  Speaker 2: voice coming out of another face is so different because
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  Speaker 2: like Peyton's like goofy face goes along with his like
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  Speaker 2: kind of goofy voice. Yeah, and with Chock it's just different.
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  Speaker 3: Chalk is really I think somebody that I could see
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  Speaker 3: Joan ending up with. He seems carrying and stable. Obviously
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  Speaker 3: he can relate on a lot of the stories that
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  Speaker 3: Joan has. They enjoy some similar hobbies like fishing that
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  Speaker 3: comes out during this date. It feels like Chalk is
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  Speaker 3: one of those guys that you watch on screen right
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  Speaker 3: now and you're like, he's either gonna end up with
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  Speaker 3: Joan or it's gonna be one of those breakups that
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  Speaker 3: like we don't see coming, because I do think their
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  Speaker 3: connection is strong. Like four, I think he's easily top four.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, I think the top four got revealed to
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  Speaker 3: me during this episode, which I'll tell you about at
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  Speaker 3: the very end.
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  Speaker 2: But the next one. Okay, So the second group day
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  Speaker 2: is the Talent Show date, and this was fun. Talent
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  Speaker 2: Show is way more fun when it's with the Golden
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  Speaker 2: With the Golden peeps, I agree, this is like so
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  Speaker 2: much better and there's never it's like a lot less
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  Speaker 2: awkward and a lot less competitive. They're just joking around.
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  Speaker 2: What are some of the standout performances for you outside
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  Speaker 2: of Dan, who of course did the the ribbon dancing
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  Speaker 2: to kind of mask his tremors.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, I think it's it was amazing, uh to see.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know who did it. I think it's Charles
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  Speaker 3: k punched through the board and just sock Greg in
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  Speaker 3: the stomach. I mean, if you watch, when you watch
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  Speaker 3: on a replay, like he really did absolutely pound Greg
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  Speaker 3: in the stomach. It was a to see that. Also,
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  Speaker 3: I just appreciated the guys confidence I would be one
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  Speaker 3: of the guys and I had a talent show on
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  Speaker 3: it was Caitlin's season, or maybe even was my Bachelor
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  Speaker 3: season one of these.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was your Bachelor season.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't have like a distinct talent to show
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  Speaker 3: off on a stage. I don't, and that's okay. I
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  Speaker 3: was kind of anxious about it back then. I think
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  Speaker 3: we talked about it, but I just don't have one
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  Speaker 3: that could be done in front of people and impress them.
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  Speaker 3: And so, you know, I remember at the time when
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  Speaker 3: that was told to us that we were doing a
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  Speaker 3: tele show, I was like, well, I just got to
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  Speaker 3: go out there and do my best and be confident.
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  Speaker 3: These guys, even though a lot of them didn't have
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  Speaker 3: a talent that stood out necessarily, they just showed confidence.
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  Speaker 3: They either sung, they did a poem, they did the
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  Speaker 3: yo yo. I could have done a yoyo. I thought
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  Speaker 3: everybody could do a yoyo, But maybe a yoyo is
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  Speaker 3: that impressive. I like the juggler who couldn't even juggle.
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  Speaker 3: He got through one, like one round and then it
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  Speaker 3: fell and everybody's like, yeah, like that's what it's all about,
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  Speaker 3: get up there on stage and do.
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  Speaker 2: Something so true. But ben they're also able to get
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  Speaker 2: away with it because of their age. Because if a
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  Speaker 2: twenty if a twenty eight year old guy got up
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  Speaker 2: and he was trying to juggle and he didn't do
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  Speaker 2: it well or like chose that as is his talent,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like people would be like just less see
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  Speaker 2: less humor in it. They'd be like, oh, he was
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  Speaker 2: being lazy, he didn't come with something else.
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  Speaker 3: Perhaps maybe I think it's just how you present it,
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  Speaker 3: and these guys know how to present it. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: this is a big deal to him. It's their first
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  Speaker 3: group date, there's a live audience. They're obviously still nervous.
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  Speaker 3: No matter how old you get, you still have nerves.
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  Speaker 3: And they just say you know what, We're gonna make
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  Speaker 3: the most of it, and I think that's actually incredible.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Dan says I'm not nervous actually when he gets up,
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  Speaker 2: but he says, my hands are shaking, and that's because
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  Speaker 2: I have a tremor. And you could tell that Joan
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  Speaker 2: was nervous when she saw his hand shaking, like she
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  Speaker 2: felt so bad. She either thought that he had a
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  Speaker 2: disability that you know that makes your hands tremor, or
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: that he was that nervous. Either way, she was concerned
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  Speaker 2: for him. But he had a really good sense of
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  Speaker 2: humor about it, sure, and that you know, made him
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  Speaker 2: shine so much so that he gets the nighttime date.
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  Speaker 2: And then we have another sad story.
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  Speaker 3: We do, and I mean it's kind of going to
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  Speaker 3: be I think a theme as the Golden Like franchise
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  Speaker 3: continues is each season we're going to have these moments
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  Speaker 3: of a lot of joy and laughter and brilliance along
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  Speaker 3: with kind of this balancing act of real stories that
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  Speaker 3: affect real humans. That's probably why I enjoy it so much,
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  Speaker 3: is because it feels like we're getting real stories from
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  Speaker 3: real humans who have you know, shown some courage in
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  Speaker 3: getting out there and going on national television. Even if
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  Speaker 3: it's just to go home in week one, They've done it,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that's a big deal. Dan obviously has
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  Speaker 3: a story. Also, it's not unexpected, you know, from from
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  Speaker 3: these men. They're obviously there for a reason. But I
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  Speaker 3: Dan stands out because Dan has this way of communicating Ashley,
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  Speaker 3: and it feels it feels like he would sit in
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  Speaker 3: a like a kind of like an executive position at
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  Speaker 3: his work because he talks. He talks like with this
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  Speaker 3: kind of quiet confidence and he kind of is listening
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  Speaker 3: and curious, which oftentimes I think the best executives do right.
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  Speaker 3: They ask a lot of questions. They don't jump to assumptions.
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  Speaker 3: They don't, you know, tell you what you should be
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  Speaker 3: feeling or thinking. And then when I sat there and
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: listened to Joan and Dan talk, I was like, this
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  Speaker 3: guy knows how to talk like, he just knows how
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  Speaker 3: to communicate.
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  Speaker 2: He's like you, He's you a golden form.
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  Speaker 3: He has better hair than me, much more so.
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  Speaker 2: Than Gary was. Because I know that you got like
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: compared to Gary is because like he held the role
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: of golden bachelorette similarly to the way that you held
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: the role as bachelor.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think Dan is gonna Dan is
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: another one kind of like Chalk, where I put Dan
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: and Chalk about side by side.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Of Both of these guys are people that really stood
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: out to us last week. I agree, because of their communication.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they just they talk kind of like Mark does,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: with this quiet confidence, and I think that's something to notice.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's just the thing that you develop as you
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: get older. You've had enough, you know, interaction with people
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: that you kind of understand how people operate, and you
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: kind of understand how that what people need in communication,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: and so you start to learn how to do it well.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: But all three of those guys, also Goldie, those four
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: guys to me really kind of communicate with this quiet
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: confidence that stands out amongst the rest.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, those are some good names. That's a
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: good top four or five that you just mentioned. So
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Dan gets the rose, leads us to the party, which
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: this week is gonna be a barbecue at the mansion,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: a lot less dramatic than the barbecues that happened on
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: the main show. Again, I always feel like the barbecue
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: or the pool party is always the most dramatic of
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: the cocktail parties, and this is really not. Things that
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: stand out again is Goldie, He's gonna get his picture here.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: And then Mark's kiss, which, by the way, and I'm
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: not doing this. I'm not saying this because of me
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: being a Mark stand but because her other kisses with
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: the other guys are like very casual sometimes like she'll
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: just do it in front of the other men and
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: it's just like a you know, like close mouth all that.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: With her kiss with Mark, it was a liplock that
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: was like a kiss that was like a romantic kiss,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: you know it. Don't look at me like that.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think she's had some good kisses. She
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: did kiss a couple guys this episode. I do think
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: that's something to know. I I have really enjoyed seeing
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Joan carry the role as a Golden bachelorette because I
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: do think not only I mean Jess can I said
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: it last night like the ladies gorgeous, but she also
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: navigates this process so far very well, and she is
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: allowing the relationship to open up to a certain physical level,
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: which is you know, to show you know, romance through kissing.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: I think all these kisses meant something. I do think
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Marks would see.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Romantic to you Okay, fine, then.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: To you.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Joan, now call her up and ask her.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I do might disagree with you a little bit. I
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: think this show is going to be lacking in drama,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: which is fine with me, which is actually something I prefer.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: And one of one of the things that I think
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: they tried to do was make this cookout with the
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: whole burger situation and how all these They have too
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: many leaders in this group, too many people who have
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: grilled for their families for too many years and cook
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: for themselves for too many years. They have too many
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: people who are leaders in their own worlds. And they
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: come into this house and now they have to share
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: this space, and you have to see them start to
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: navigate maybe having their like what they've implemented as what
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: they want in life not happen. And I think that's
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: gonna be a really fun thing. It's not going to
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: cause drama amongst the others. I think it's going to
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: cause internal drama within themselves to go. I like it
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: this way. I like to sleep in a room with
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: a night machine. I like to sleep naked. I like
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: the air to be sixty six degrees. I like my
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: burgers medium. Well, I don't want barbecue sauce on them.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: All these things that they've created to be the right
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: and wrong way of doing life. Now you're gonna have
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: to see them start to separate from that, and I
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: think that's gonna be fun to watch.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Is there something that's like very like a sociologist would
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: comment on them that the women like women like women
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: on The Golden Bachelor. They're more communal, you know, when
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: one has a baby. It's like the village, you know,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: back in the tribal days, and whereas like men could
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: go out and hunter, gather more by themselves, and like, yeah,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: so when women are put together in that group at
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: this age especially, it just seems very comfortable, whereas men
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: are like, we've done this solo for quite some time.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: We've been the heads of the house.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: I also wonder, I wonder, I don't know, I wonder
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: if you know, the women are so used to nurturing
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: and caring for that you know, they also like to
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: be nurtured and cared for, and so this is a
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: moment where you know, like last season, Susan can cook
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: for everybody and everybody can just sit and laugh and
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: like drink wine and enjoy it and Susan's carrying the role,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: and everybody's happy to have her carry that role because
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: they want to be like, you know, they've cared for
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: everybody else their whole life, but it's nice to be
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: cared for yourself. Where these men kind of have this
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: like no, I know how to do it my way
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: kind of like mentality, and they've done it their way
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: when they want to do it their way, and now
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: they're getting that ripped away from them, especially when it
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: comes around to grill. I think a grill is a
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: really good place for men to start to have disagreements
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: because typically the men have very strong opinions on how
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: to grill the right ray, right way, or the wrong way.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: That's so funny, Yeah, you might be right totally. Any
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: other standout moments from the barbecue, it's like.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Jack, I'm sad Jack's gone. He's obviously leaving us.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Jack.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: I thought he was a good energy and a really
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: positive spirit in the house. I thought he had a
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: lot of fun at the house. I thought he was
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: soaking it every moment at the house. There's no other
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: big standout moments of the barbecue for me, other than
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: the fact that there is obviously a uniform this season.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: The uniform is khakis with a tuckting golf shirt and
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: brand new tennis shoes of whatever kind that is showing
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: up at every scene of every episode. I think that's great.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: That is so funny.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: The only thing I wanted to bring up to you
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: astulely that I wanted to get your thoughts on. I
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: don't even know his name, but The Bachelor had said
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: that they're going to cut Bill Gil out of this series.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was more actually in the episode.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: A lot more than some.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, are we getting is our advanced copy
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: not edited or something? Because I thought that he had.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: A role, you know, Okay, are we getting bamboozled? Here
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: is my question? Now here's what could have happened in
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: my mind. Yeah, is this show was already edited and
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: put to press before this came out, like last week
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: they didn't have so like maybe in future episodes we'll
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: see that. But I was surprised to see him have
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: this one on one moment with Joanes shown, But I
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: do I would imagine that this episode was already out
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: there before this all came to light.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Thanks, Yeah, so you guys, if you aren't aware,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Gil was actually served a restraining order. Between the time
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: of him getting his background checked during casting weekend to
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: the start of the show actually filming, he was really
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: communicating a ton with this woman and it was getting
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: obsessive and yeah, so she got this on him. And
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: then he went on the show, and we know that
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: they wanted to cut down some of his episodes. They
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: said that he doesn't really play a huge role. He
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: did get this conversation where he told Joan about how
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: his wife passed away in twenty nineteen, and that was obviously,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: it was so sad and I was like feeling for
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: the guy. And then they showed his name underneath after
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: the conversation. I was like, that's Gil. And then you
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: just think, how was this man like with his wife
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: and then a couple years later stalking another woman. Is
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: this like a behavior that is just out of grief
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: or am I giving him too much credit? Or is
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: this just something to think about.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I was just shocked to see him. I think we'd
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: see him at all, but yeah we did. He was
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: there more than the others. Yeah, that was a moment
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: that stood out to me. Now we'll talk about the
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: guys going home before we talk about who we think
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: will be in the final four. After our two weeks
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: of knowing these guys, Michael, Jack, Christopher, and Bob are
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: sent home. I think there are some surprises here, maybe
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: even with all of them. We didn't get to see
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: a lot of Bob. I liked Bob. I thought Bob
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: was like a really sweet man, but we just need
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: to see a lot of him. But we did get
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: to know Michael, Jack and Christopher quite a bit. Maybe
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: that's just the element of the show is we'll get
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: to know the characters a little better than we do
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: on the other You know, during the Bachelor and Bachelorette,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: I would like to call him surprises, but I don't
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: know who else you would have sent home.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: There was a couple in there. I don't feel that
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: she has a lot of chemistry with guy. He was
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: towards the end of the rose ceremony.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: See, I think she has a lot of chemistry with guy.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: You do. Oh yeah, I'm just so off here. Okay, Well,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: I thought that Christopher leaving was a shock out of
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: this bunch. I thought Bob leaving was also a little shocked,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: just because, like we knew their faces and they had
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: really sweet demeanors. Michael I was like, whatever on Jack.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I think we're sad just as viewers to lose Jack.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: But yeah, they didn't have anything. My sister was like,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Jack is the kind of guy that I wish they
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: had a golden paradise for.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Oh gosh, how much would he love? How much would
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: he love the Golden paradise? Yeah, he would absolutely thrive.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was created for it, so was you know
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Kathy getting from her season. There's a couple.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Think about those two together dating goodness great.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: We might actually need a Golden paradise, except for it
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: would need to be like, not in a tropical location.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: It would need to be in the mountains or something.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: It would need to have winter winter games vibes.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, or like Florida where they all live. Already Florida
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: would be hilarious too, just like a nice little cond.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Have a compound of condos.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: I would love to see Jack and Cathy. I'm gonna
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: ship that Jack and Kathy together. Can you imagine the conversations?
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: It would be unreal? Well, first off, they would be
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: really just talking out loud to themselves, but be sitting
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: next to each other. Hannah Hannah, our producer, goes you
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: don't want to see grannies and bikinis. I would be
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: down for that.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Who said, so, don't put words in my mouth.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: You want to see grandma's and bikinis?
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Ben, I don't know if it's something I want, but
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: I'm down to watch it.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I'm down to watch it too. But I'm sure that
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: they would love to be in sweaters. Yeah, and it
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: would be cool to have like a whole different five and.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: We can bring back the one piece like it's fine. Yeah, yeah,
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: I mean it has to be for any but anybody
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: that I know over seventy sixty five seventy For them
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: to be a bathing suit, it has to be ninety degrees.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: So as long as we keep it seventy five, they're
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: still wearing long sleeves.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Do you know that my mom who you know, like
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: my mom is like the really hottest sixty six year
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: old woman you can. Can you believe my mom's sixty six?
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: It's like insane. I treat her like she's also forty six.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm with thinking, like why are you tired?
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: You know, after a day with the kids, Like you're
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: forty six, and it's like, oh crap, you're sixty six.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: My mom has a Warner bathing suit in like ten
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: to fifteen years. She's so ridiculous.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Is that a personal choice?
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Oh? Is that going?
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: We have a pool in the backyard. She like hasn't
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: gotten into it for twenty years. Oh that's unfortnately very
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: conservative lady.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: All right, So who's your top four, Ashley? I want
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: to hear it.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I don't think we have much of a different top four,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: so this might be a little bit boring. It's Mark,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: It's Jonathan Shock and and and Dan, so guys that
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: were very much highlighted during this this episode.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Mark, Chalk Guy and Dan.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I am not I do not know what I'm missing
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: from the guy thing, but I'm obviously missing it.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: I think you're missing it.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: What if he wasn't a doctor? Would you put him
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: in there?
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: I don't even I didn't even know he was a doctor. Okay,
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: so yeah, I think they just have something. Okay, just wait,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: just wait. This has been another amazing episode. Don't need
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: to say a lot about Joan. She's thriving in this role.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: She was made for this role. It feels like Joan.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: I will say that Joan has blossomed. I don't know
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: if this will be a critique, this will be taking
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: the wrong way. I know Joan listens to this. Joan
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: is more attractive now than she was in high.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: School, oh, one hundred thousand percent. And I was thinking
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: about that last episode when they were showing old pictures
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: of her and her husband together. I'm like, why is
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: this woman getting hotter with age?
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, way, what's happening? What's happening here? I will
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: say that, but Jones thriving. She does, navigates the conversations well,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: she brings out the best in these guys. The stories
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: are being told, the questions are being asked, the romance
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: is there and exist, and I think all of these
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: guys are just absolutely smitten with her. Their heads turn
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: every time she walks around. They get giddy every time
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: she walks into a room. I absolutely think Joan is
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: the perfect choice for the Golden Bachelor.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: But it really was. Yeah, you could not get better
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: at the role.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: No, she's great for it.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Unless it would be like an actual Hollywood actress, you
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? They found her. I think she's
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: even better Chevy Chase Maryland, and she's just perfection.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, good people come from Maryland. Hey, until next week
• 31:55
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• 31:59
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• 32:01
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• 32:03
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• 32:05
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• 32:09
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• 32:12
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• 32:16
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• 32:18
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• 32:22
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• 32:26
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• 32:28
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• 32:32
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• 32:36
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• 32:39
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• 32:40
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