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Lynch & Taco Show Off The Air Podcast: Doug Robb of Hoobastank is our guest · Off the Air

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Speaker 1: It's one O one one w j r R, Orlando's
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Speaker 1: rock station, Lynch and Taco's Off the Air podcast. We
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Speaker 1: do new episodes pretty much every Thursday after we get
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Speaker 1: done with our show each morning, and we're we're rolling
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Speaker 1: with our new streaming platform this week, and thought we'd
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Speaker 1: try to bring in an outside guest to remote in
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Speaker 1: and why not get Doug Rob from hoobastankd act is
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Speaker 1: our guinea pig. Good morning, Doug.
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Speaker 2: Good morning. I'll gladly take the job here.
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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you right out of the gate, thank
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Speaker 3: you for getting up this early West Coast time, because
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Speaker 3: I know that's a bitch, especially for.
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Speaker 2: Yesterday.
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Speaker 4: Yesterday, my manager's like, okay, check your email, that's your
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Speaker 4: repressed for tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: And I'm like seven am, right right on camera, like,
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Speaker 2: oh my god, what are we doing here?
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Speaker 1: Who are these a holes? Are they worth talking to? Uh?
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Speaker 1: You have kids though?
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Speaker 5: Right?
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Speaker 2: Oh?
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Speaker 1: School probably hasn't started there yet. How's it?
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Speaker 4: I got, well, what is it? What's Thursday? About one
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Speaker 4: week left? And then I got both my kids go
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Speaker 4: back to school?
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Speaker 1: They all started here this past Monday and Tuesday. So
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Speaker 1: it's school buses and school stops and or you know,
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Speaker 1: but stops in.
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Speaker 3: The local news stations, doesn't countdown cloth every year. I
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Speaker 3: would be so pissed off if I was a little
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Speaker 3: kid and walked by by my parents watching the news.
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Speaker 2: Ships just trauma.
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Speaker 4: It's just trauma inducing, right, like, truly, let them have,
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Speaker 4: let them have the summer, let them have it.
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Speaker 1: Hey, did you like the first day of school? When
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Speaker 1: we were back going back to school, we were talking
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Speaker 1: about this earlier in the week.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 4: First first off, I don't remember ever ever starting school
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Speaker 4: before September. Yeah, it wasn't a thing. And I always
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Speaker 4: taught to my kids and they're like, well, how did
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Speaker 4: it change? But they also get a lot more days
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Speaker 4: off during the year than I do.
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Speaker 5: That is I did.
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Speaker 1: It's true.
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Speaker 5: How old are you?
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Speaker 2: It almost seems weird, but I.
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Speaker 4: Have I have as soon to be sixteen year old
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Speaker 4: daughter and I soon be thirteen year old son skateboard.
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Speaker 5: Neither of them.
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Speaker 2: Uh, my son does well, They've done a both a
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Speaker 2: little bit of skateboarding.
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Speaker 4: That was more of my thing. He's more into two
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Speaker 4: bikes and e bikes. And she's in baseball and she's
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Speaker 4: a softball player.
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Speaker 2: And you know, soon to be driver.
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Speaker 1: So as a dad, where are you at on this
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Speaker 1: whole e bike craze that everybody's dealing with? Now, we're
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Speaker 1: scourges some people would call it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm that guy who kind of there's some
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Speaker 4: parents out here that are just you know, shaking their
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Speaker 4: fists at clouds, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 2: And then and then some have no I.
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Speaker 4: Don't want to say control, but I feel like, no
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Speaker 4: say in their kids, uh activities.
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Speaker 2: I used to bike all around. I used to skate everywhere.
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Speaker 2: And we live.
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Speaker 4: In the same area that I grew up, Like, my
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Speaker 4: kids go to all the same schools that I went to.
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Speaker 4: So I remember like the activity of the moment for
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Speaker 4: my time where all the parents were, you know, and
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Speaker 4: for me it was skating.
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Speaker 2: I was just a little skate punk.
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Speaker 4: And then I remember skating to school and getting yelled
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Speaker 4: at by people because I was skating in the middle
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Speaker 4: of the street, and then the skateboard is getting banned,
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Speaker 4: and then going down to the stores, and then eventually
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Speaker 4: them saying you can't skate here either, Like and I'm
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Speaker 4: just watching it happen again with e bike riders. You know, Grant, dude,
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Speaker 4: I understand the danger. I absolutely understand the data. I'm
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Speaker 4: not trying to like poop poo that at all, but
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Speaker 4: I just you know, my my son's got a e bike.
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Speaker 2: It goes faster than it should. I tell them, you
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Speaker 2: can't be.
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Speaker 4: You can't be that dude, you know, riding in the
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Speaker 4: middle street doing wheelies and and you know, hold up
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Speaker 4: traffic and being reckless. And I don't want you to
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Speaker 4: be one of those guys that runs out, like rides
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Speaker 4: out in a group of like fifty guys. You know,
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Speaker 4: well those guys that you that you you know, granted
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Speaker 4: they look cool and everything, those guys are ruining it
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Speaker 4: for you who just want to have this cool thing,
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Speaker 4: you know, because the way they act is making it
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Speaker 4: you know, every it annoys everybody.
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Speaker 2: So so just be careful. You know.
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Speaker 4: I'm one of those parents like like, look, I'm going
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Speaker 4: to I trust you with the responsibility and if you
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Speaker 4: if you f it up, you know, you f it up,
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Speaker 4: and hopefully it's not a hospital f up.
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Speaker 5: Don't be like like I was when I was a
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Speaker 5: kid on my skateboard.
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Speaker 3: It's funny that your kids go to the same schools
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Speaker 3: as you, because I grew up right where I live too,
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Speaker 3: been here my whole life.
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Speaker 2: And my we're total losers.
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Speaker 5: You guys live.
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Speaker 1: In what I refer to as zone of operations. Do
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Speaker 1: you just your homebodies? You stay there, that's where your
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Speaker 1: friends and family are, and there's nothing wrong with that. Well,
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Speaker 1: but you don't see that a lot anymore.
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Speaker 5: But you live in a cool area. And we live
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Speaker 5: in a cool area. I mean I live It's not Orlando, Florida,
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Speaker 5: Mickey Mouse.
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Speaker 3: And we live in a subset called Maitland and winter Park,
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Speaker 3: and they're really beautiful towns. It's like, I have the
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Speaker 3: beach fifty minutes away, I've got everything close.
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Speaker 5: Why leave, you know?
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Speaker 4: And you have you have this same Yeah, dude, yeah,
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Speaker 4: I we.
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Speaker 2: I used to hear all the time or not.
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Speaker 4: I but I really noticed how nobody, nobody's kids went
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Speaker 4: to the same school as them, you know, like and
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Speaker 4: I always heard that when I was younger. It was
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Speaker 4: more of a East Coast thing where where there were
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Speaker 4: multi generational houses, you know, where families would.
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Speaker 2: Stay in one area. And there's a lot of obviously
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Speaker 2: there's a lot of transplants out here.
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Speaker 4: And I remember in high school my history teacher was retiring.
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Speaker 4: It was his last year, and it was his last class.
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Speaker 4: It wasn't even was it was the last class of
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Speaker 4: the day. So he was like done done, you know,
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Speaker 4: and he was he was a funny He was a
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Speaker 4: funny guy. And he you know, the class is just
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Speaker 4: doing stupid ship or whatever, just you know, And I
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Speaker 4: remember he got everyone's attention and kind of said, he
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Speaker 4: you know, this is gonna suck to say, you guys,
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Speaker 4: but probably ninety five percent of you guys will not
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Speaker 4: make enough money to live where your parents live right now,
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Speaker 4: So enjoy it, you know, Like, I mean, that's not
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Speaker 4: that's not part of the lesson plan. And that's like
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Speaker 4: the biggest thing I took from high school. This one
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Speaker 4: sentence my teacher, while retiring said, and I was like,
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Speaker 4: oh my god, I kind of like it here. This
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Speaker 4: is like I I wasn't one of those kids, because
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Speaker 4: it's very it's very normal and cool for everyone in
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Speaker 4: high school to say their town sucks and they want
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Speaker 4: to get out of there, you know, like that's that's
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Speaker 4: the noise.
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Speaker 2: I get it.
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Speaker 4: It's like human, it's human behavior. But I wasn't one
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Speaker 4: of them, and my friends weren't one of them. We're
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Speaker 4: like dude, we kind of really like it here. Like
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Speaker 4: you said, we're about nine miles from Malibu, you know,
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Speaker 4: like we could go to the beach anytime we want.
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Speaker 2: We're forty.
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Speaker 4: It's from Hollywood to go see shows, and and uh,
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Speaker 4: you know, there's mountains and and I.
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Speaker 2: Just had a really good childhood growing up, and that
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Speaker 2: stuck with me.
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Speaker 4: And I kind of was like in the back of
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Speaker 4: my head was like, all right, I'm going to show
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Speaker 4: this guy.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna prove him wrong that I'm you know, I'm
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Speaker 2: going to stay around.
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Speaker 1: So you used it as motivation.
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Speaker 4: Not necessarily like I would wake up in bed and go, oh,
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Speaker 4: mister Miller said, I'm wasn't going to live in this town,
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Speaker 4: you know, but I it it was there. It was
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Speaker 4: like a little itch fire fire yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And and I remember also early on in our career.
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Speaker 1: Did you have music going on at this point when
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Speaker 1: you were in this guy's class?
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Speaker 2: Were you the music were I wasn't in any bands
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Speaker 2: at the time. This is I think it was my sophomore.
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Speaker 1: Year, okay.
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Speaker 4: And I I remember early on in our careers in
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Speaker 4: interviews when people would ask like, what what's your goal?
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Speaker 2: What's you know what's your goal? What do you want
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Speaker 2: to do?
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Speaker 4: Especially after the first album, and I I remember telling
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Speaker 4: you them, I just want to buy a house.
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Speaker 2: I just want to buy a house, like like I wanted,
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Speaker 2: the most normal thing ever, you know.
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Speaker 4: I just want to buy a house and like be
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Speaker 4: a like a functioning member of society, you know. And
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Speaker 4: if I can do it playing music, what a joke,
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Speaker 4: you know, that would be so much fun.
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Speaker 1: So that brings me to this.
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Speaker 3: By the way, we're talking to Doug Rob from Hoosday.
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Speaker 1: Yes, thanks again for joining us early time for you
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Speaker 1: out in California. Uh So, now you're getting to the
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Speaker 1: point where you're gonna swerve into you know, getting into
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Speaker 1: music and starting a band, and you have that all happen,
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Speaker 1: and you've talked about it in lots of interviews over
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Speaker 1: the years, which brings me to this. I'm a flashback
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Speaker 1: to circa ninety four, Okay, when you guys were first
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Speaker 1: thrown out there as.
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Speaker 2: Right, we started, we just we just started.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I vividly remember the local record rap at the time.
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Speaker 1: I can't remember her name. She was out ahead of
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Speaker 1: the promotion for you guys. They were introducing this new
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Speaker 1: band called Hooba stank, and I distinctly.
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Speaker 4: This was before you go in for this was probably
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Speaker 4: two thousand and one. Okay, well you're saying ninety four
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Speaker 4: is when we actually started playing music together, but we
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Speaker 4: didn't get a record with the two thousands.
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So anyway, Yeah, to set it straight regarding it,
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Speaker 1: was the first time I had heard of you guys,
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Speaker 1: and I looked at her and I go, this is
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Speaker 1: a joke, right, Hoopa stank, What in the world is that?
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Speaker 1: And you've joked about it over the years, and it
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Speaker 1: was just kind of a goofy name you guys came
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Speaker 1: up with, and and uh, it's stuck and it just
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Speaker 1: and then I heard the music. I'm like, Okay, I
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Speaker 1: don't care what their name is. Is pretty good.
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Speaker 5: They're damn good.
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Speaker 3: I remember the first time that I believe the first
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Speaker 3: time I saw you was early two thousands, and I
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Speaker 3: believe it was hard rock.
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Speaker 2: Live and i'd say we've the few times yeah the uh.
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Speaker 3: I mean, Pat and I have worked together since ninety six,
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Speaker 3: so I don't know if they play if you guys
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Speaker 3: played here before that, but I remember I had to
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Speaker 3: intro the bands.
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Speaker 5: And I was like, oh yeah, hubas Dank. They have
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Speaker 5: some good music, dude. It was just to say, hoobas
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Speaker 5: Dank was so.
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Speaker 3: I think that's when I did entertainment reviews, packed right,
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Speaker 3: and I reviewed it and I called, uh uh, I
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Speaker 3: think they might have played it with Maroon five.
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Speaker 5: And I remember I called them morons Maroon five.
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Speaker 3: Because I did the theses of five.
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Speaker 1: He screwed up some band names over the year, just
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Speaker 1: in front of a lot of people and bands for
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Speaker 1: that matter. It's kind of cringe oh no taco moments. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we we love him for it. We love them.
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Speaker 3: I think I called Finger eleven finger six one time
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Speaker 3: kids they were playing with I know it was I
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Speaker 3: called I called Eve six Eve eleven, and.
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Speaker 5: The finger looked at me and he goes, thanks a lot.
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Speaker 5: Talk for a while.
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Speaker 1: I was like, sorry, So you guys, you know you launched.
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Speaker 1: You you have this weird day, but you got a
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Speaker 1: gets stuck and you're off and running. And now you
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Speaker 1: fast forward. Here we are at present day, twenty twenty six,
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Speaker 1: and you're gonna ready to hit the road again. Huh uh.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude.
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Speaker 4: We've been on, off and on the road a lot,
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Speaker 4: especially this year, and and and more specifically right now. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: we're gonna hitting the road right now with with Stained
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Speaker 4: and See there for a six week run.
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Speaker 1: In the anniversary of What Break the Cycle? Right is
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Speaker 1: that there?
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Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, that's that's that's the tour for that. We've
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Speaker 4: been doing Warped Tour shows all year. We did DC,
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Speaker 4: we did Long Beach here, and we're doing Orlando in November.
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Speaker 2: And those shows are awesome, dude. Those that's that's kind
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Speaker 2: of it was one of It's one of those weird.
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Speaker 4: Mandela effects with that because people are like, oh, man,
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Speaker 4: I remember seeing you guys back at this show and
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Speaker 4: it was great, and I'm like, I let them finish
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Speaker 4: their story and I'm like, bro, this is our first
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Speaker 4: time playing Warped to wherever and their heads explode.
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Speaker 2: They're just like what what That's impossible?
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Speaker 3: You know? And that's what we went to as kids,
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Speaker 3: was the warp Tour.
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Speaker 2: Oh totally was.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I have my own memories of it for sure,
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Speaker 4: but I'm like, dude, we never played and they go,
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Speaker 4: how is that even possible? And I remember we've done
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Speaker 4: some like Q and as with Kevin Lyman, who who who?
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Speaker 6: You know?
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Speaker 4: The Warped towards his baby, and he remembers asking us
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Speaker 4: to please like I remember trying to get you guys
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Speaker 4: to play in two thousand and one, and I'm like, yeah,
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Speaker 4: that's when the record came out, the first record, and
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Speaker 4: I remember the whole thing. It was perfect. It was
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Speaker 4: like perfect, Like I remember going to the shows. That
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Speaker 4: was our vibe. Like like I said, I was just
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Speaker 4: a skate kid were you know. It was so it
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Speaker 4: was just like it was like, Okay, this is exactly
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Speaker 4: how I want to do my career, you know. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: and we like we dropped crawling in the dark. That
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Speaker 4: song caught on and I remember what I remember our
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Speaker 4: manager and our record label at the time coming and
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Speaker 4: going to you guys don't want to do this. You
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Speaker 4: guys are going to go out with like a big
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Speaker 4: band like tour in a bus.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 4: You you can always come back to it. And so
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Speaker 4: we like begrudgingly like all right, we'll we'll do it
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Speaker 4: next year. And then we said we'll do it next year.
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Speaker 4: You know, it just got it just kept getting pushed
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Speaker 4: off and then it went away.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 4: So now that it's back, uh, and we got the
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Speaker 4: invite and having played the first couple of shows.
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Speaker 2: Then it was so much fun. I have to tell
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Speaker 2: you everything. It's go ahead, I said, it's everything. I
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Speaker 2: I hope it would be.
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Speaker 1: On a selfish note, here in Central Florida, it's a
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Speaker 1: godsend that they have now made this thing in November,
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Speaker 1: because it used to be you know, straight summer dates
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Speaker 1: when it would come to Florida in the middle of
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Speaker 1: July or August, and it was like it was gonna rain,
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Speaker 1: there was gonna be lightning delays, it was going to
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Speaker 1: be surface of the sun hot. And I mean when
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Speaker 1: you throw in the humidity, and I know, it gets
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Speaker 1: great and it's cool and the vibe and but after
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Speaker 1: a while, it's like Jesus, man, this is enough. So
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Speaker 1: now that it's in November, man, the masks that showed
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Speaker 1: up last year, I've never seen anything like that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I couldn't agree more. The the DC.
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Speaker 4: One was in June, and that was that was like
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Speaker 4: I couldn't I couldn't even believe. And you know, you
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Speaker 4: don't know your set times and they throw you on.
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Speaker 4: I think we played at like four o'clock, right, you know,
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Speaker 4: no shade, no nothing. And I give all the people
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Speaker 4: who attend those things like I don't know how they
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Speaker 4: do it. I mean, I know that that they're music
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Speaker 4: fans and but yeah, you're up there like going, I'm
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Speaker 4: gonna die, I'm gonna really die.
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Speaker 2: So hot.
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Speaker 5: I'm on a black stage to boot.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and like I said, no, no shade and here,
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Speaker 4: you know, run around for for forty five minutes and
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Speaker 4: scream your head off.
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Speaker 1: What are the logistics and just I'm sure beyond chaos
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Speaker 1: for the artist perspective for something like the Warped tour.
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Speaker 1: What what they're like, Okay, show up at whatever time
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Speaker 1: and meet us here, and it's just it just looks
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Speaker 1: like controlled chaos the whole thing it is.
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Speaker 4: But it's controlled well, and I think because it isn't
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Speaker 4: a you know, thirty show run during the summer. Well,
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Speaker 4: you know, we have back to back to back things
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Speaker 4: and people in vans and and everything has to be
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Speaker 4: more mobile. It's a lot different in a good way
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Speaker 4: for the people working it and the and the bands themselves.
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Speaker 4: You know, they have proper accommodations and stuff like that.
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Speaker 4: But it's a little bit like, yo, we don't know
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Speaker 4: when we're going to play, so you need to be
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Speaker 4: here at you know, at this time and you may
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Speaker 4: not play for another eight hours, you know, R and so,
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Speaker 4: and then.
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Speaker 2: You hear but it's a cool way to see but
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Speaker 2: it's a cool way to see the other bands, which
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Speaker 2: is the point, you know, like.
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Speaker 3: So definitely, and then you hear the thing of oh yeah,
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Speaker 3: and you might have an interview at this time, Like, I.
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Speaker 5: Don't want to do an interview out there. We just
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Speaker 5: want to chill out and do our thing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, is that no?
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Speaker 4: I mean yeah, it's basically they they will fill your
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Speaker 4: day with interviews until like an hour before your set,
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Speaker 4: and and then after your set they'll be like, here,
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Speaker 4: there's another six interviews I need to do.
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Speaker 2: So it's fine. I mean, I feel like.
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Speaker 4: I've never really I've never really had a problem with
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Speaker 4: with media impress and stuff like that, and even more
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Speaker 4: so now I'm just like, dude, who cares?
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Speaker 2: This is like they gonna look you are.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and and it's promoting it's promoting the band at
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Speaker 3: the end.
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Speaker 4: Of the day, you know, yeah, exactly, It's it's.
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Speaker 5: Did you ever play? Have you played Welcome to Rockville
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Speaker 5: here in daytimely? Yet? I'm trying to.
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Speaker 2: I think we did last year?
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Speaker 4: We did?
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Speaker 1: No, we did?
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Speaker 2: We did do last year the year before. I think
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Speaker 2: that's another one which can't keep.
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Speaker 1: Track of playing and when it's in.
16:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one was massive.
16:52
Speaker 4: It was a lot of fun and equally uh basically
16:55
Speaker 4: like playing on the Sun.
16:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah. So after many years of nothing new,
17:01
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, here a month or two ago,
17:04
Speaker 1: you put out this straight up punk sound in tune
17:08
Speaker 1: how do You Sleep? Which brings me to a question
17:11
Speaker 1: that we have talked about on the air here this
17:14
Speaker 1: trend over the last you know, however, many years where
17:18
Speaker 1: a lot of artists no longer have an album mentality.
17:22
Speaker 1: It's just like, hey, when inspiration strikes and we got
17:24
Speaker 1: something new, we'll put it out there. Don't want to
17:26
Speaker 1: have the pressure of having to do a whole album.
17:29
Speaker 1: What is your take on that whole line of thinking there.
17:36
Speaker 4: I think it's cool. I can go either way. Selfishly,
17:42
Speaker 4: I really enjoy the writing process and the recording process
17:47
Speaker 4: and that whole thing that happens outside of the public eye.
17:51
Speaker 2: To make a record like an album.
17:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really enjoy that, you know, Like it's so
17:57
Speaker 4: cool to go to the studio like a studio every
18:01
Speaker 4: day for six weeks, you know, and and uh, and
18:04
Speaker 4: be in that environment and that creative kind of uh flow,
18:08
Speaker 4: and you're going from song to song and each one
18:11
Speaker 4: kind of gets better, and then you go back and
18:12
Speaker 4: change things and that's really exciting and I guess just
18:15
Speaker 4: really creatively fulfilling. But I totally understand the the want
18:26
Speaker 4: to just do singles or smaller or EPs and stuff
18:30
Speaker 4: like that. Our guitar player Dan has been wanting. He
18:32
Speaker 4: has a very love hate relationship with uh the writing
18:35
Speaker 4: and recording process.
18:37
Speaker 2: I do too, but it's more love. His is equally
18:41
Speaker 2: painful sometimes the recording process.
18:43
Speaker 4: And dude, like even like after our third album, he
18:48
Speaker 4: was like, Dude, I don't ever want.
18:49
Speaker 1: To do this any it's just grind grind.
18:52
Speaker 2: Yeah.
18:52
Speaker 4: I just He's like, I just want to put out singles,
18:54
Speaker 4: And at that time was definitely against it because I
18:57
Speaker 4: really loved it. But after a while I kind of go, yeah,
19:03
Speaker 4: you know what it's it makes sense from a for me,
19:07
Speaker 4: from a like a listener's point of view. For a
19:11
Speaker 4: legacy band like ourself, you know, like who have a
19:14
Speaker 4: lot of when we play shows, you know, people have
19:19
Speaker 4: a certain set of songs that they go down to hear,
19:22
Speaker 4: you know, But if as an As a band, you
19:27
Speaker 4: write all this new stuff and you're excited to play
19:29
Speaker 4: all this new stuff, and so there's like this push pull,
19:33
Speaker 4: like do we play you know, all the singles or
19:36
Speaker 4: do we play more you know, new stuff. And if
19:39
Speaker 4: I'm being honest, man, when I go see a band
19:41
Speaker 4: that I've known for a long time, I just want
19:43
Speaker 4: to hear what I know.
19:45
Speaker 2: I want to know, I want to.
19:46
Speaker 4: See the song. Yeah, I want to hear the hits.
19:48
Speaker 4: I want to hear the songs that I love and
19:51
Speaker 4: maybe a song, a new song. And even that time,
19:54
Speaker 4: it's like that's I feel like that's when people I'm
19:57
Speaker 4: gonna go get a drink and go to the bathroom.
19:59
Speaker 1: You are literally on the same page as we're singing
20:03
Speaker 1: from them.
20:04
Speaker 4: It's just it's just yeah, yeah, Like so why not
20:08
Speaker 4: just put out one song, get your fans to really
20:11
Speaker 4: like that one song so it becomes one of the
20:14
Speaker 4: songs they want to hear. They don't have to study
20:16
Speaker 4: twelve songs on a record. They only got one song.
20:18
Speaker 4: You know, Hopefully they like it and you play it
20:21
Speaker 4: and it's kind of and it's easier to like fit
20:24
Speaker 4: it in with the rest of your set. And if
20:26
Speaker 4: you do that every couple of months put out one
20:29
Speaker 4: new song. You know, you can kind of rotate new
20:31
Speaker 4: songs or just play two new songs, but they're not
20:33
Speaker 4: like two randoms, like people know the song there's been,
20:36
Speaker 4: it's been on the radio, it's it's there's got a
20:38
Speaker 4: video for it. It just kind of works better with
20:42
Speaker 4: where we are positioned in our career, you know, and
20:46
Speaker 4: and people's you know, short attention span nowadays, include myself.
20:50
Speaker 1: Speaking of song by song basis talk about how your
20:53
Speaker 1: lives changed when you put out the Reason and all
20:57
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now you have become a name and
21:03
Speaker 1: a quantity to people that you originally never had any
21:06
Speaker 1: probably dream of feeling to.
21:09
Speaker 6: You know.
21:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a I've said, you know many times,
21:15
Speaker 4: but it seems to be the perfect explanation.
21:18
Speaker 2: It was definitely a double edged sword. Yeah.
21:21
Speaker 4: Up to that point in our careers, we had released
21:25
Speaker 4: an album that went platinum. We had a couple of
21:28
Speaker 4: singles on the second record that we're doing fine. Like,
21:31
Speaker 4: the trajectory of our band was steady and going in
21:36
Speaker 4: the direction that we wanted. And more importantly, I was
21:41
Speaker 4: said the perception of the band within the band matched
21:45
Speaker 4: the perception of the audiences towards us, you know, like,
21:49
Speaker 4: this is who we are, this is how we this
21:52
Speaker 4: is what we do, and the audience agreed, yes, that's
21:56
Speaker 4: what you are, you know. So we were kind of
21:59
Speaker 4: had control of this thing, you know, and then that
22:02
Speaker 4: song comes out and it absolutely blows up.
22:08
Speaker 2: It's such a.
22:09
Speaker 4: Blur how fast things change, you know, but it got
22:14
Speaker 4: bigger than the band, is what happened. You know, when
22:16
Speaker 4: you have this massive pop hit when you only had
22:21
Speaker 4: like these kind of alt rock hits prior, it's a
22:24
Speaker 4: totally different audience.
22:25
Speaker 2: And so you know, at one.
22:28
Speaker 4: Moment, we're playing you know, theaters fifteen hundred two thousand
22:32
Speaker 4: theaters with a bunch of teenagers and twenty year olds
22:36
Speaker 4: and bodies flying everywhere, which I said, which matched who
22:39
Speaker 4: we were. And then a few months later we're headlining
22:45
Speaker 4: amphitheaters and fifteen thousand seats, you know, like, but it's
22:48
Speaker 4: all like teen girls and their parents. So it was
22:51
Speaker 4: really it was a wee and that, while exciting because
22:56
Speaker 4: it was so large, was like a culture, you know,
23:00
Speaker 4: like what do we This is weird, this is fun,
23:03
Speaker 4: and we kind of just ran. Honestly, we just ran
23:05
Speaker 4: with it. We never said like, oh now we're a
23:07
Speaker 4: pop whatever. We just kind of like took it in stride.
23:10
Speaker 2: But then it re.
23:11
Speaker 1: Animated itself with the whole TikTok thing, right, and that
23:15
Speaker 1: is I mean, yeah, that people you know, I'm not
23:18
Speaker 1: a perfect person, you know, memes and you even doing
23:21
Speaker 1: it yourself to that was when you guys first got
23:24
Speaker 1: on there, right, It was you kind of launching your
23:27
Speaker 1: guys TikTok.
23:29
Speaker 2: Yeah.
23:30
Speaker 4: Yeah, so like yeah, like we we lost control of
23:33
Speaker 4: the you know, of the perception, and that was the
23:35
Speaker 4: fight for a while, and then you know, years later
23:38
Speaker 4: it pops back up and almost you know, like I said,
23:42
Speaker 4: we just kind of had fun with it. We're like, dude,
23:44
Speaker 4: this isn't something we can now like quote unquote take
23:48
Speaker 4: advantage of because I know a lot of people tell
23:50
Speaker 4: me like, oh, you got to do this, and you
23:51
Speaker 4: got to do this and go to do this, and
23:52
Speaker 4: our mentality was just like, dude, this is just a
23:54
Speaker 4: wave we got, you know, if we want to ride it,
23:57
Speaker 4: have fun with it, and then when it goes away,
23:59
Speaker 4: let it go away, you know. And yeah, it was
24:02
Speaker 4: just very self deprecating and which is what we are.
24:06
Speaker 2: And we just had fun with it.
24:08
Speaker 3: You know, I think that you liked the mom and
24:11
Speaker 3: daughter crowds, Like why it worked for you?
24:14
Speaker 5: How you're like, hey, let's just go with this.
24:16
Speaker 3: I think it's because you're the same dude that said
24:18
Speaker 3: I want to I want to live in a house.
24:21
Speaker 5: That's your normal.
24:22
Speaker 2: Dude, Right, well, what do you what are you going
24:26
Speaker 2: to do? Like, what are you going to do?
24:27
Speaker 4: Not play these you know, like, hey, we want to
24:30
Speaker 4: play this the so and so theater and that they're going,
24:32
Speaker 4: why you can play the the arena down the street?
24:35
Speaker 2: Right, you know, what are you going to do?
24:39
Speaker 4: So?
24:40
Speaker 2: Yeah?
24:40
Speaker 4: And and and uh. It was a quick lesson or
24:45
Speaker 4: a hard lesson, but a good lesson in the in
24:47
Speaker 4: the fickleness of pop pop uh fans, you know, like
24:53
Speaker 4: they're they they're many and loud, but man, they burn
24:57
Speaker 4: out fast.
24:58
Speaker 2: It's just like, Okay, who's the next big you know pop?
25:01
Speaker 1: What's right next? Uh? I gotta think though, that's had
25:06
Speaker 1: to that song in particular, has had to really translate
25:09
Speaker 1: well into monetizing things and how you all make money
25:12
Speaker 1: now on the side of the streaming count as opposed
25:16
Speaker 1: to physical sales of you know, CDs or vinyl or
25:19
Speaker 1: cassettes because that song has become part of the fabric
25:23
Speaker 1: of so many cultural events in people's lives.
25:28
Speaker 2: Right I sound like I'm complaining about the success of
25:32
Speaker 2: this It's not.
25:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, not at any point did we ever go I
25:37
Speaker 4: wish we never wrote it, or I never wish it
25:39
Speaker 4: ever was. I mean, it was always holy cow, like,
25:44
Speaker 4: we're so lucky that we we you know, we wrote
25:48
Speaker 4: the thing.
25:48
Speaker 2: We stumbled upon this thing and connected with people.
25:51
Speaker 4: Are there, you know, difficult things that come along with it, absolutely,
25:55
Speaker 4: But most of it happened early, you know, like I said,
26:00
Speaker 4: said the kind of the struggle to control this thing.
26:03
Speaker 4: But ever since, man, I mean, I'd be totally lying
26:07
Speaker 4: if I if I said that that song is obviously
26:11
Speaker 4: what's kept our career alive, not specifically only that song,
26:16
Speaker 4: but it's what to open the door for people to
26:18
Speaker 4: hear the rest of what we do.
26:19
Speaker 2: And Yeah, that house.
26:23
Speaker 4: That I wanted to buy in the area that I
26:25
Speaker 4: wanted to buy, that's that's the song, you know, That's
26:27
Speaker 4: that's what it did for me.
26:29
Speaker 1: So I think that's a good way to bring this
26:31
Speaker 1: whole conversation full circle. That's a really great perspective right there.
26:35
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I was saying. It is, it's like
26:37
Speaker 5: you're a normal dude.
26:38
Speaker 3: You wanted the house and now you're the guy with
26:42
Speaker 3: the family in the house.
26:44
Speaker 1: The reason is the reason, right.
26:48
Speaker 4: Right.
26:48
Speaker 1: So okay, we're looking forward to seeing you guys down
26:51
Speaker 1: our way in November at the Warped tour there at
26:53
Speaker 1: Camping World Stadium. Should be beautiful weather again, it was
26:58
Speaker 1: last year. I'm sure it will be November.
27:00
Speaker 2: Really, what was it?
27:00
Speaker 1: Well, it's nice and cool, crystal clear blue skies. It
27:04
Speaker 1: was wonderful.
27:06
Speaker 2: I can't wait.
27:07
Speaker 1: Awesome, not cold, not cold, but very pleasant.
27:11
Speaker 3: Now that Pat said that, watched some freak November hurricane.
27:16
Speaker 2: Stop.
27:17
Speaker 1: Hey, anything else you want to get out there before
27:19
Speaker 1: we run out of time here on the off their podcast.
27:22
Speaker 2: Did I think you think you got it? You know?
27:24
Speaker 2: New new song out new you know touring? Uh song?
27:28
Speaker 2: So how do you sleep? Yep, take a listen. We'll
27:30
Speaker 2: play it for you live awesome and by the way,
27:33
Speaker 2: play the one we'll play. We'll play the one new
27:34
Speaker 2: song well and the rest will be the hits.
27:36
Speaker 5: That one.
27:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way, it was two years ago you
27:40
Speaker 3: played Welcome to Rockville. Definitely, Okay, I remember it.
27:44
Speaker 2: I definitely remember, I just don't.
27:46
Speaker 5: And it was hot as hell. Like you said, Pat,
27:48
Speaker 5: that was that one. Oh my god, it was you.
27:51
Speaker 5: I walked by and I see Pat and his wife.
27:53
Speaker 5: He's like, I.
27:54
Speaker 1: Think I did utter the phrase I think I'm going
27:56
Speaker 1: to die.
27:59
Speaker 4: It was one of those shows where they had they
28:01
Speaker 4: had multiple fire hoses in the front and they were
28:03
Speaker 4: just hosing people down.
28:05
Speaker 6: Crazy rock and roll baby. All right, Doug rob from
28:11
Speaker 6: who was staying, appreciate you coming and being the test
28:15
Speaker 6: subject for our new streaming platform here.
28:17
Speaker 5: With j r R.
28:18
Speaker 2: All Right, man, I hope it works out.
28:20
Speaker 5: It worked, dude.
28:22
Speaker 1: Hey, go back to sleep.
28:23
Speaker 4: Man, Dude, I wish I could. I got a bunch
28:26
Speaker 4: of other interviews lined up.
28:27
Speaker 5: Okay, Sorry, we took you a long way on that one. Yeah.
28:30
Speaker 1: Thank thanks for fitting us in this morning.
28:32
Speaker 4: Man.
28:32
Speaker 1: We do appreciate it.
28:33
Speaker 4: Thank you, brother.
28:34
Speaker 2: All good guys. Thanks man, We'll talk to you.