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Brett Keane Exposes Anton LaVey Church of Satan · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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Hello, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Brett Keene and you
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are watching and listening to the Brett Keene Show.
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I hope you're all having a wonderful day.
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Today. I'm going to be completely and
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utterly destroying the Church of Satan.
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The reason why I've made the decision to do this is because I
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recently put out an invite for an open discussion with
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Satanist. I picked out the Satanic Temple,
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the Satanic Network, Satanic Lives Matter, which is obviously
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a parody of Black Lives Matter and the Church of Satan.
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Now, most of all these networks, they all endorse and support,
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what's this guy's name? Come on, Can you give it to me?
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Levan? Yeah, that guy.
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That's who they basically endorse.
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That's their big fella. So we're going to go ahead and
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listen to him. Now, I want to tell you what the
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claims are that the Church of Satan put forth.
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A lot of the people who are now a part of the Community Church
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of Satan claim that Levan was not atheistic Satanist.
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They claim that he never actually believed in a real
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devil, and he sure as hell didn't believe in God, that he
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was an atheist. Now this is a win win video for
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me. There's no way to lose in this
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debate, and here's why. Because the video I'm about to
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play you spoiler alert, has him actually stating that God is
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real and the devil is real, and he says it quite a few times.
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Now if the Church of Satan comes along and they show a video
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where he says the total opposite, well that would mean
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that the very founder of their Satanic church is a fucking liar
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and can't be trusted. Therefore, because they worship
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that, they can't be trusted either.
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So if they want to throw up a video that contradicts his own
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words and his own face on video, that's fucking fine with me as
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far as I'm concerned. I like good contradictions.
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I like it whenever the idiots that I'm opposing end up failing
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at life all on their own. Now, one of the major reasons
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I'm doing this, ladies and gentlemen, is not just because
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they didn't have the courage to come into my room, but there was
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a theistic Satanist who writes books who have the courage to
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come in and actually have a decent, respectful conversation.
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Now these bastards got on Twitter and social media and
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they ran this guy over. They dragged him through the mud
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and they said that he was fake because he actually believed in.
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The real devil is where they are claiming to be nothing more than
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attention whores and drama fanatics who use the name Satan
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to basically profit. You know, sell Satanic T-shirts,
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go aggravate Christians at Raleigh's and Assemblies and all
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that. Pretty much do what they do for
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negative attention, having nothing to do with the faith or
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religion that their founder actually believed in.
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And again, I'll repeat, they claimed that he did not believe
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in a real devil nor a real God, that he was just simply an
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atheist. Well, let's find out if that's
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true. I'm going to mute my mic and we
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are going to play this. Some time ago, the wire services
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and newspapers carried a story out of San Francisco describing
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the first satanic wedding ceremony ever performed.
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The pictures showed a nude woman lying on the altar behind the
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guest whom you see now, the Reverend Anton Zandor Levay, who
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is the founder and high priest of the First Church of Satan.
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Anton Zandor Levay uses as somewhat of a credo.
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This time was quote remember evil backwards spells live.
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Somehow that never occurred to me.
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Never occurred to me until one of my disciples brought it
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forth, and I imagine that it's quite true with many of us.
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How often do you have you have to shave your head to make it
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shiny like a devil? I have to put Vaseline on it as
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well to keep it shiny. I shave it once a day.
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Is that the odor you're giving off now, Vaseline?
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No. That's fooled me.
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That's Musk. That's Musk.
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That's the goatee scent you smell.
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For sure it's not frankincense and myrrh now that now, what is
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this ring you're wearing here? Looks like it's weighing your
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hand down. Well, no.
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It's a magical ring. It is.
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I have little children. Rub it, make a wish, and it
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comes true. Little children come near you,
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of course. Little children, what kind of a
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wish did? That ring ever make come true?
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Well, I would say a great many wishes, but we won't go into
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them. Now you call yourself a Satanic
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priest? Yes.
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Is that the opposite of God? No, because Satan is a God too.
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Satan is a God too. Well, biblically, it actually
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says that Satan is the God of this world.
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So Levan so far has been biblically correct.
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He believes in the Satan of the Bible, and he also believes in
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God, believes that God is real, and he's got more to say about
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that. Ladies and gentlemen, let's take
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a listen. Let me go ahead and mute my mic.
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But what are you then? The The Dirty.
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Pope or what? Oh, I guess you could call me
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that. If you want to say the black
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Pope or The Dirty Pope or the The Advocate of, for example,
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the Kingdom of night or darkness.
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No one's ever come forth so far and spoken up for the devil.
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Everybody that's made rules and regulations concerning the devil
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or the devil's work, the devil's activities have been people that
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have been very righteous people, people during crusades people.
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I'm not too righteous, but on the other hand, I think you're a
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bit of a Ding a Ling. Let's face it, either that well
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you're selling some kind of a snake oil.
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You got very shifty little eyes by right.
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It gets very close together too. I got to be honest with you, I'm
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not a fan of Levan. Not at all.
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I have read the works, I have read some of the literature, but
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I don't think it's cool for the host to be like berating him and
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making fun of him on how he physically looks and all that.
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And besides, I'm not a homosexual or anything, ladies
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and gentlemen, but the guy's not a terrible looking person.
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I am married to a beautiful woman, have two fantastic
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children, but I do have kind of a sense of what is ugly in this
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world and what is not. And he looks like your typical
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average Smo, basically just expressing his ideas.
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He does however look like he's a little high, but that's not
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anything new with the Church of Satan.
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I mean, that's what they do. Hell, one of my favorite people
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from the Satanic Network. He used to come on my show, talk
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to me about the devil while sucking down massive amounts of
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alcohol. And of course I encouraged him
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not to. It's not good for you.
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But besides that, I just don't think it was right for them to
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humiliate him on public television like that.
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Of course, he probably doesn't give a rat's ass, but he's still
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a human being. He shouldn't have been done like
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that. But let's let's continue.
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I know some people are going to be like Brett.
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You're a Christian. Why are you defending A Satanist
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for? Because he ain't doing nothing
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wrong. I mean, unless someone
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personally attacks me or gives me hell, I'm not going to give
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them any shit. That's the way it is.
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I don't care if they label themselves, you know, Flat
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Earther or Martian from Mars. I I don't give a rat's ass
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labels or labels. Here we go.
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They tell a story about you. Oh yes, of course.
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What is the story that you'd like to tell us?
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The story is that I think that the devil has been the guy
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that's kept the church in business for many, many years.
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Without him and the concept of evil, where would the Church be?
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Well, where would Notre Dame be if they couldn't play Southern
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methods? They could have opposition.
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Is that the? Point right.
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They have to have well. You're supplying what, a loyal
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opposition? Well, I'm supplying a much
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needed opposition. The word Satan only means
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adversary. As I said, it's not you.
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You never use the word devil. Devils, of course devils are
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God. The original concept of the word
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devil is taken from a word meaning God.
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But this? This name, Anton Zandor Lavey,
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that's got to be a put on. That's.
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No, it's certainly not. When I was a young boy, I was
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quite embarrassed about what the S stood for in my middle name
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because zandor anybody with. A SZANDOR, right?
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Right. Now what does that?
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What does that name mean? Does it have any meaning?
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Well, it's a very common name in the Balkan countries of Europe,
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Romania, Hungary. It's just like George or Frank
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would be here now. What country do you come from?
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Transylvania or. Not really my family.
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Part of my family is from Transylvania.
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Is it necessary to kill you by driving a stake through your
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heart or with just a knock on the head?
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Do it. I will never die.
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You won't? No, of course not.
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I've made arrangements. How?
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Do you like that? A frozen devil, right?
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Oh, I I don't exactly know what he means.
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I have looked at some of this clip and I don't know what the
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hell he's talking about, how he's made arrangements or
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whatever. I guess he means that his soul
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will go on to hell. Let's see if he explains that a
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little bit further. That's a good point.
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You're going to be frozen. This is a no.
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That's a great thing. I think, incidentally, this
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freezing, because I think we all want to live forever.
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I think basically none of us want to die.
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We're like little children that are put to bed before we really
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want to go to bed. And if we I hate to sound like
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Goldwater, but in our hearts, none of us really want to die,
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We all know that death is something you don't know.
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How many people are going to come to your funeral?
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You don't know what your wives, your husbands are going to be
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doing afterwards. People don't want to die because
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they don't want to miss anything afterwards and they're afraid
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for what they're going to be missing.
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So are you saying then that you're going to make
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arrangements to have yourself frozen?
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If it's at all possible. If it's not, I'll make other
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arrangements. Of course.
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What do you mean other arrangements?
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Let's take the freezing first. Now, I could just picture this
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now, about 10 days after you're frozen, some minister's going to
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tiptoe over and turn off your electricity.
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Or bring a blow. Or bring a blowtorch in.
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Yeah, well, a blowtorch would be you make you make you right at
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home. What are the other arrangements?
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There's another thing. You see, the concept of the
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devil is a a multitude of of interpretations.
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Now, one of the realms of hell, Tartarus, the lowest of all, is
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supposed to be a very frigid place, like a gigantic
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refrigerator. This is where Lucifer lives and
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there's nothing hot at all about it.
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On the other hand, the lake of fire that's described in the
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Bible was described to Eskimos by Christian missionaries at one
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time, and they not having enough heat.
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All wanted to know how do we get there.
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And This is why it never has really done too well up there.
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Well, look, you don't mind if I call you a dev?
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That's actually a pretty funny joke.
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The Eskimos are like, where do we go?
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I got to admit that's that's pretty cute.
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But yeah, so basically he's stating that he does believe in
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an underworld. Tartarus.
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Tartarus is not just mentioned or Hades or hell is not just
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mentioned in the Bible. I think most Christians realize
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that Satan has made his way through many different religions
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out there. Satan, as well as Christianity
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and Judaism predates humanity. But for those out there who are
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wondering what I'm talking about, well, since God existed
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before humanity and God knows everything, then God knew there
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was going to be Satanism. He knew there was going to be
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Christianity. I knew all the religions that
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were going to exist. So all this, at least in the
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mind of God, is predated even before humanity.
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Think about that. Maybe that'll make you scratch
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your head. The Eskimo joke was pretty cool.
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I like that. That was funny.
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Call me anything you want, as long as it's not.
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Were you ever a religious fellow?
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I would say not particularly. You're a young man.
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I'm a religious fellow now, though.
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How old are you? I'm 3636.
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Who ordained you? A satanic priest?
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I would say probably. I received the call, just as any
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fundamentalist do. But we fight it.
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Why fight it? This is of course, the whole
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principle of my religion is. I mean, you received the call,
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You mean one day the devil said Go out Anton, Zandor Lavey and
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give people hell. Is that what?
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Happened. That's about it.
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That's. About it.
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Because people like to have a hell of a time, don't they?
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Well, of course, there are all kinds of definitions of that.
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Well, now, now I don't, you know, I mean to to marry two
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people without a license in front of a naked babe lying up
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on an older. I don't know what that is.
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Well, seriously, there are explanations for these things,
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and how I started was as a result of various reverse forms
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of therapy. I haven't been a satanic priest
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all my life, as you've probably gathered.
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You've probably been an inmate. Part of your life?
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Well, an inmate in possibly a pretty big institution.
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Is that where you picked up that yo-yo that hangs around your?
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Top That's not a yo-yo. That's the equivalent of a
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crucifix. A.
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Crucifix. You mean that's your version?
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This is not my version. This has been around for a long,
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long time. It's just a magical symbol
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symbolizing the inversion or the the opposition or the adversary
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of the concept that is normally supplied.
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Are you going to hook up with any paganistic society?
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So before we continue, Warren, I do want to remind people just a
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moment ago in the video he said that he received a calling and
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he compared it to Christianity. Well, what do Christians claim
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whenever they say they received a calling or a blessing from
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God? This is basically they believe
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that God summoned them, are reached out and got ahold of
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their heart and told them to basically follow the teachings
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of Christ or at least encourage them or inspire them to start
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reading the Bible, the word of God.
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All this. So if he's comparing it to
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Christianity, then logic dictates that he believes that
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Satan, the entity the devil actually called him, I mean if
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he was an atheist, what would he actually be meaning?
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I mean, if if we were to actually go along with the
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modern day Church of Satan and their claims, what would that
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mean to say that you got a calling from the devil?
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Was that metaphorical? Is that parable?
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Is he just playing around? Because I'd love to hear that.
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So far he is shown to be a theistic Satanist, and as I said
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that the Satanist end up bringing up videos where he
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claims to be an atheist later on.
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Fine with me, it'll just prove that their church is liars.
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Bible already says that there is no truth in them, so we'll see
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what they how they handle that. Let's see what we got.
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I don't know. I imagine Paganism is just a
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euphemism for Satanism. People want to get out and run
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around in the woods without any clothes and all this sort of
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thing. I don't feel this is necessary.
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Well, you thought it was necessary to make that girl take
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her clothing off for that wedding.
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Without clothing. How did you talk her into that?
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She must be a nut. Well, of course she's no, she's
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not. In fact, I might say that most
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of the people that are in my group are professional people.
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They're business people. They're people that are from
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very responsible walks of life. I heard that that marriage is
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not even legal. Well, it might not be, but as
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far as I'm concerned it is because unless they had a piece
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of paper that said that their blood types were all right and
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that the. That was it had no blood tests.
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That's right. But if they had gone to take
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this blood test, if they had spent $2.00 on this particular
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little piece of paper that said a civil ceremony was in order,
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therefore religious ceremony could be performed, then of
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course this would be just as legal.
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I would have married them, incidentally, if they had come
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to me with that piece of paper. This was requested of me as a
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religious ceremony. But you don't have the authority
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under law to perform a marriage. OK, folks, so I want you to pay
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attention to that. He's repeatedly said that he can
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do this. He's religious.
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He's spiritual. In the very beginning of the
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video, he said he's a very spiritual man.
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All right, So what does that mean, ladies and gentlemen?
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I know the Christians know, Let's see what kind of mental
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Olympics that are. Are gymnastics that the Satanist
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of the Satanic Church is going to say about that.
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But he's basically saying, yeah, we're a religious institution,
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we can do that. Now at this point during the
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interview, I don't think that the Levay and Satanic religion
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was official just yet, but it did eventually become official.
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It did officially become a religion, but even before it
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became an official religion, when people started taking it
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seriously, he was already claiming it was a religion.
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So let's continue. Any minister has the authority
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under law, under the laws of the consulate.
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But you ordained yourself, well, where would I go to a
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theological seminary that would teach Satanism?
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We'll. Be back with a man from down
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under. And I don't mean Australia after
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these words. Stand by.
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I understand that. What are you doing?
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I'm giving a blessing to the to the audience.
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I don't think they appreciate it.
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They were throwing it back. Well, they thought it was a
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curse. Would you like me to show them
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how the sign of the curse works? Completely different.
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How does it go? No, not at you, not at you
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people out there in the audience.
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But this is the difference. Aim it toward Red China, would
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you? This is the sign of the horns, a
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curse sign. The two fingers extended this
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way, spread apart for sort of shotgun blast.
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You know, I always. Figured if I ever met the day of
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the devil, it'd have dirty fingernails.
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Go on. Oh, they're not.
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Yes, they are dirty, dirty. Fingernails.
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Well, that's because I've been fooling around with your
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equipment. Never mind.
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Don't blame it on the story. Go on with All right, so that's
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the sign of the horn. And then what happens is that
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it? Well, the other ones too.
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Yeah. What are the other ones?
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The other one's one of the pox sign.
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That's three fingers extended. POX on you.
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A pox on you. During the Middle Ages, this
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was. Oh yes, but originally?
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Well, you have to be bad to be good.
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Is it true that you teach people how to make voodoo dolls and
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sticks pins in them to? To hurt people.
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That's right. I believe that hate is necessary
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in a controlled way just as much as love is necessary.
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But. All right, folks, so he believes
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in the supernatural. He believes in magic.
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Now, usually whenever I'm having debates with atheists, I see a
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big difference, because a lot of atheists like to claim that God
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is magic. You know, some magical old man
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in the sky. I don't believe that magic can
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be associated with God, and here's why.
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Magic is usually defined as sleight of hand or an illusion.
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It's not something that actually is real power.
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Take Criss Angel or David Copperfield.
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They've been practicing and working their craft all their
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life, and they've learned how to deceptive, be deceptive, and
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trick people into thinking one thing when they're actually
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doing another. It's just a sleight of hands, As
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I pointed out, is where power is described as the kind of energy
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that you have running through your homes, running through your
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cars, running through the universe.
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The entire universe is made-up of energy.
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God and his essence is energy. Us as human beings are made out
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of energy and power. We're basically like walking,
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animated meet alternators. All right, let's continue to
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hear what he's got to say. I got to be honest with you.
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It's pissing me off to hear the Hostess continue to throw these
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insults at the guy. Levan hasn't said anything
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offensive towards him, but he just continues to take pop shots
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and I do respect the patience that he's having with the host.
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But I suspect before he even went on the show, he probably
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knew that they were going to try to make him out to look like an
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asshole on there. I don't like doing that.
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Whenever I have guests during my show, I take them seriously.
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I try to be open to their views and their ideas.
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Unless they attack me. Then I will fucking absolutely
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annihilate the person that is coming at me with the wrong
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tone. Here we go.
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I think Satanists would probably respect that if they actually
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went along with their code of conduct.
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Could it really work of? Course it works.
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It's been working in primitive societies for.
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Then how come you don't pick out the despots of the world and
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make dolls like that and stick pins in them so that the oh, you
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want them to win? You want the bad guys to win,
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right? Well, I don't say they're
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necessarily the bad guys or the good guys.
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It's not up to me because the only people that I would cast a
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curse or a spell on would be people individually that would
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sort of get under my skin. Why are you staring at me like
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that? Because after all, hate should
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be a personalized thing. Do you hate a lot?
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No, not really. I am a pretty.
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Flexible person, the the newspaper said.
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You used to play a calliope in a circus.
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I played a calliope. I was a wild animal trainer.
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You live with a lion at home, don't you?
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Yes, I do. Now is that just a publicity?
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Story He sleeps with me every night in the bedroom.
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How much does he weigh? 500 lbs.
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Has he been defanged and declawed?
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No. Have you?
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He's got full power. No, not not yet.
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Are you at all afraid that someday, after you get through
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this big put on, you know, with your little red yo-yo and your
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big fat ring and your shiny bald head that when they do pack you
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away? Well now wait if.
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There's any justice, you know, you've got to really get it.
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Justice. You've got to really get it,
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baby. Isn't justice sort of a lie most
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of the time? Isn't the law just tricks?
24:19
Really. See, we're dealing with men, and
24:21
men make mistakes, but there's somebody.
24:25
I got to be honest with you, even though I'm a Christian and
24:29
I'm taught to love my enemy and do unto others and all that it
24:33
would, there would be so much effort to hold myself back from
24:39
knocking the piss out of this bastard that keeps on running
24:41
his mouth. Now don't get me wrong, folks, I
24:47
don't endorse or support this guy's religion or Z system.
24:51
But this host, it's it's cringy and it's pissing me off just
24:57
listening to this guy. I wish he would just shut up,
25:00
ask his damn question and let him talk.
25:09
Made all of us. Well, they made the laws too.
25:11
Somebody made this whirl, and someday, if he could get his
25:15
hands on a cat like you, you could be like horrible example
25:20
number one. You mean like?
25:22
You ever think about it? You mean like?
25:24
JC. Yes.
25:26
Well, what happens if somebody holds a crucifix up in front of
25:29
you? Do you mellow?
25:29
I don't. I don't do this.
25:31
You know, shrink back and hold my Cape up.
25:34
No, it doesn't bother me because I have no axe to grind with
25:37
Christianity. I feel that if Christians are
25:39
good Christians, they want to be Christians.
25:41
Fine if it's working for them. Same with any other religion.
25:43
The only thing that I would preach would be that people that
25:48
aren't successfully enjoying their lives as much as they
25:51
should might sort of flip the coin over and see what's on the
25:54
other side. You want people just go full.
25:58
Now that was extremely interesting, what he just said.
26:02
That was actually pretty damn cool what the man said.
26:06
He said, look, I don't have no axe to grind with Christianity.
26:10
Did you hear that folks? He said.
26:12
If you're out there living your life and you're doing your
26:15
thing, he ain't got nothing against you.
26:18
He's basically saying if Christianity isn't doing it for
26:21
you, if religion or whatever you're following at the moment
26:25
isn't doing it, flip the coin. And obviously he's endorsing his
26:28
own view system at this point, but he clearly made it apparent
26:35
on public television, on a broadcast, that he doesn't have
26:39
any any issue and he's not looking to cause trouble with
26:43
people. Well, that's not like the
26:46
atheistic Satanic church today, is it?
26:49
That's not what you see with the Church of Satan.
26:52
They're out there if you go on Twitter right now or out in
26:56
social media. These assholes are deliberately
26:59
instigating trouble with Christians.
27:02
They're instigating problems with society.
27:06
They're starting fights with other people who have different
27:09
views, who are also claiming to be Satanic, and so on and so on.
27:15
So obviously these people nowadays and modern Satanism are
27:19
hypocrites. They're not even following this
27:21
guy. They they don't even do they
27:25
even bother to go back and listen to what he said or read
27:28
his writings? Probably not.
27:31
I mean, let's face it, ladies and gentlemen, Satanism and
27:34
atheism, at least in social media, it's become very
27:38
profitable. Think about all the money that
27:41
Satanists make. If you go to their website,
27:44
they've got an entire section, like 20 categories of shirts.
27:48
You can buy pamphlets and you know, souvenirs and emo jewelry
27:53
and all that. You know, they're selling all
27:55
this stuff. They've become basically the
27:58
Pharisee table. You know, the merchandise
28:01
sellers, you know, the pimp pushers of Satanism.
28:05
They don't give a damn about this guy or whatever he was
28:08
teaching. Here we go.
28:12
Don't bore full tilt into sin. No, not full bore, full tilt.
28:16
Because if they do. Now wait a minute.
28:17
No. These in this newspaper paper
28:20
notorious for this. Come on, it says right here.
28:22
Let me see if I can find this this part here where they
28:25
couldn't wait to go out and commit the seven deadly sins.
28:29
I don't see it here, but I remember reading it.
28:31
Isn't that what people get married for usually?
28:33
They commit the seven deadly sins it.
28:34
Gives them a piece of paper that says it's all right, especially.
28:37
The first seven deadly sins. Sure, think about it.
28:41
Really. What are clear?
28:42
What are? Well, what are the Do you know
28:43
what the Seven Deadly Sins are? Did you see that, ladies and
28:49
gentlemen? The host just actually
28:50
physically assaulted this guy? Just hit him over the head with
28:55
that bullshit. I don't think that the host even
28:57
knows what the seven deadly sins are.
29:00
It's got gluttony, greed, sloth, all these kind of things.
29:04
These are pretty much where humans do, You know, perverted
29:09
things. Perverse things are also
29:12
overindulged himself. These are usually what the seven
29:15
deadly sins consist of. And believe it or not, I'm going
29:19
to show tell you guys something that may shock you.
29:22
Did you know that the the Bible actually teaches that once you
29:26
get married, the bedroom can't be defiled?
29:29
That's right. You can do pretty much whatever
29:31
kind of nasty, naughty stuff you want to with your wife or
29:34
husband or whatever the case. It's your bedroom.
29:38
You can do what you want in it. There used to be this philosophy
29:44
that homosexuals and straight people, whatever you did in your
29:47
bedroom, providing that it was in the privacy of your own home,
29:51
you were more than welcome to do that.
29:53
Just don't go paraded in the street.
29:55
Oh, wait a minute. Times have changed.
29:57
We do parade things out in the street now, don't we?
30:00
Boy oh boy, the world sure has turned upside down.
30:06
Well, there's a sloth pride. That's right.
30:08
The the girl gets married because then she can go around
30:11
to all her friends and say, well I landed him sort of crow about.
30:15
It no girl on her right mind would say that you perform the
30:17
ceremony. Well, all right.
30:18
There's a sloth. That's laziness.
30:21
Listen to the couple usually go on a honeymoon.
30:22
They want to lay around after they've committed one of the
30:24
other I. Believe the term is lie around
30:26
on the beach or something. Like that.
30:27
I know it's lie around, but I was using another.
30:30
All right, we won't go into semantics about this.
30:32
Good. We won't.
30:33
And gluttony? Don't we all like to eat until
30:36
we're full? If we didn't, wouldn't there be
30:38
no need for diets? No, I don't think so.
30:41
I don't think people always eat until they're full or we would
30:44
all look like balloons. Oh boy, If only the host had
30:48
survived to see what people look like in modern day.
30:51
So yeah, there is a point to be made here.
30:56
Ladies and gentlemen, I can't disagree.
31:00
Well then, of course Pride would step in, wouldn't it?
31:03
And take care of that so that we'd thin ourselves down.
31:06
We'd be sinning. Then would it be pride or would
31:08
it be self? Denial.
31:09
Self denial is a sin, I feel, but it's not considered a sin.
31:13
Are you planning on training a lot?
31:14
Of little devils. Only those that wish to become
31:18
little devils. Are you married?
31:20
Oh yes, You have any little devils?
31:21
Oh, yes, I have two. Are you going to raise them as
31:23
satanic kids? Certainly.
31:25
But not to go around chopping people up or sacrificing human
31:29
beings just to. That would be the greatest
31:31
reward of all if your kids some night would creep in and set
31:34
fire to you and your lion. Well, no.
31:37
And then? Dancing around with pitchfork
31:39
and say look at daddy, look at daddy.
31:42
Now if you sleep with your lion, where does Mrs. Devil sleep?
31:46
Oh, she. Sleeps with the lion too, you
31:48
see. Not between us, though.
31:50
The Lions on one side. Makes for a nice grouping.
31:54
I don't like I don't believe in separating church and state.
31:58
There's some people in the dock who would like to speak to You
32:00
will be going to the Dock and the Devil after these words.
32:05
Wait a minute. He just said it was difficult to
32:09
be able to make him out, but I could have swore, he said, that
32:11
he's not against church and state.
32:15
I hope that he actually gets the opportunity to expand on that.
32:19
I'd like to know what the hell he's talking about.
32:30
State your name, Sir. Yes, my name is Jim Josma.
32:33
Did you drop in for some devil's food cake or what?
32:35
What's? No, no, we're I.
32:38
First of all, how do I address you?
32:40
Well, you can call me Mr. Reverend Anton by my first name.
32:46
Whatever. I'll I'll state the Mr. To begin
32:49
with. First of all, I'll say one
32:51
thing. You have a lot of followers and
32:54
you're right. Oh yes, you're right about the
32:57
devil being a God, because the Bible clearly states that the
33:00
devil is the the God of this world and he's also the Prince
33:04
of the power of the air. So I don't dispute you on this
33:07
matter at all. My only question.
33:08
Picking up a new recruit here. My only question is this
33:14
question basically about death. Personally, I don't think it's a
33:18
a funny matter whether you're really sincere in what you
33:21
believe or whether you are just doing this to gain followers.
33:25
I mean, it's a pretty serious thing.
33:26
First of all, everyone dies physically.
33:31
But you're right, again, everyone does not die
33:33
spiritually. And I'd just like to ask you,
33:35
what do you think is the concept of God?
33:41
What is your concept of God? What does God do?
33:43
Is He? In other words, we visualize God
33:46
as being the ruler of everything that is good and proper.
33:49
In other words, his attributes are love and and his
33:53
almightiness, omnipotence, omnipresence, and so forth.
33:56
And of course we recognize that God has given to this world many
34:00
wonderful things. Just look at all the the as far
34:02
as paintings and the literature that's inspired by God.
34:06
That the tremendous things that you see in all over the world
34:10
that God has inspired through literature and music and art.
34:12
What has the devil given to this world along the lines of of what
34:16
we consider as good and proper and?
34:17
Just yeah. What have you done lately?
34:19
Well, certainly you're right. The the concept of God has given
34:24
the world much. Beautiful music, many beautiful
34:27
works of art, and certainly I feel God exists.
34:31
But the name? I feel that God exists, folks.
34:41
That's the fifth time in this video where he actually
34:44
acknowledges that God is real. He is atheistic Satanist.
34:48
The Satanist that I had on my YouTube channel on my last
34:55
stream is atheistic Satanist who everything that he claimed about
35:01
Levan was right. And the Church of Satan attacked
35:04
him because they said, oh, he believes in a real devil, he
35:08
believes in a real God. He's he's fake.
35:11
He's fake. Basically they just took a dump
35:15
on this guy, which is the very founder of the Church of Satan.
35:19
Thank you, Levan. And thank you Satanist, who came
35:23
into my live show and made this incredible point.
35:27
Let's continue. For God, of course, is different
35:34
from many different people. And I feel that God is that
35:37
force, whatever God one chooses to pray to or to command in the
35:40
case of Satanism, rather than pray, I feel whatever God exists
35:45
should be the God that carries a person along, that carries them
35:49
through, that makes them a better person, that makes them
35:52
live a better life and a naturally a more pleasant life.
35:55
So, and I feel that you have to be kind to yourself, indulgent
35:59
to yourself, before you know what it's like to be kind to
36:01
others. True.
36:02
Now you brought up one thing about pride.
36:04
Now do you think this is? It's weird.
36:07
I got to be honest with you folks.
36:10
It's weird what he says. Because it's actually one of my
36:12
philosophical views. I believe that if you can't
36:16
learn to love yourself, if you can't learn how to care for
36:19
yourself, then you're not going to be able to love someone else
36:22
properly. I also feel that way about
36:25
politics and about how we deal with wars and issues with other
36:30
countries. I think that we should clean out
36:32
our own backyard and take care of our own needs and make sure
36:36
we're stable before we go around.
36:40
Like hypocrites telling everybody else in their
36:42
countries and and politics what to do.
36:46
That's my philosophy. I do believe that we need to
36:49
learn how to care for ourselves and see the value and worth in
36:53
ourselves. Because if we don't, then we're
36:56
going to try to live vicariously through our children and through
37:01
those that we love and will drive them fucking nuts because
37:04
we're going to expect them to be something they're not in order
37:08
to gratify ourselves and what we feel emptiness and void in in
37:13
life, if that makes sense. So I actually appreciate that he
37:17
pointed that out. That was, that's for me.
37:19
That's a philosophy that I could I can grant.
37:24
All right. So let's continue.
37:29
A bad thing. No, I think Pride is a very good
37:32
thing. Of course I.
37:33
Understand. He likes sin, you see.
37:35
These things are all euphemisms for, and, I feel, rules that are
37:40
insured to be broken by the Church.
37:42
Listen, when your wife crawls over that line to say good
37:44
morning to you, does she refer to you as Beelzebub or how does
37:47
she address you? Depends on what on what mood she
37:50
happens to be in. Is she also a Satanic type?
37:53
Oh yes, she approves of all of this.
37:56
Certainly she wouldn't be around if she didn't.
37:58
And how do you make your living? As a counselor, sorcerer,
38:03
practicing wizard, shaman, warlock, whatever you wish to
38:06
call it. All right, so he believes in
38:09
witchcraft, He believes in sorcery, He believes in all
38:12
these different elements of magic.
38:15
So he obviously believes in the supernatural.
38:20
He believes in God, believes in the devil.
38:22
The Church of Satan is so out of cue with what their founder
38:28
actually taught. Ladies and gentlemen, you know,
38:32
it doesn't really matter to me if their religion falls apart
38:35
tomorrow. I don't give a rat's ass.
38:38
Honestly, I do. I do agree with Lovan, where I
38:43
want people to feel happy in their lives and I want them to
38:47
be able to live contently. But I also would hope that
38:52
people would try to serve God as well as serving the goodness
38:57
that they can find within themselves.
39:00
So I get that. I get that.
39:03
I'm really getting tired of this host.
39:06
I wish he'd just shut the hell up.
39:09
Driving me nuts. I'm wondering if Levan at any
39:12
point in this video is going to snap his finger like Thanos and
39:15
make that prick disappear, Because I'm tired of it.
39:21
We're also a male witch A. Warlock.
39:23
Well, a male witch is considered a warlock.
39:26
You. Don't you claim to be a witch
39:28
then? A male witch, certainly, but not
39:31
a white witch. Not like some of these people
39:33
that have been on various shows that bend over backwards trying
39:36
to convince everyone how good they are.
39:37
They never performed black magic, only white magic.
39:40
I think this is. Did you make that man?
39:41
Disappear. Out of the dock.
39:43
Out of the dock. Why should I want to?
39:45
Well, because we have somebody else coming up.
39:47
Of course. I can't make him disappear
39:49
because I am naturally cast in the mold of a human being, and I
39:53
think this is it might be. Less.
39:59
This host. Oh man, what a horrible person.
40:05
Jeez, this kind of reminds me of that that movie, The Joker, you
40:11
know, where the the Hostess continues to aggravate and
40:16
aggravate. I'm just waiting for him to go,
40:19
you know, Let me show you something that's really funny.
40:26
You know the Joker movie. What happened to Robert De Niro?
40:29
Woof. Human and more Mephistopolian to
40:33
me. Thank you, Sir.
40:35
I call him a devil. He's complimented.
40:38
Would you Would you state your name please?
40:39
Mandy Tennyson, and I think you asked him what I wanted to know.
40:43
How do you make your living? I make my living as any other
40:46
minister does by the people that come to my congregations, my
40:51
lecture groups. I do lecture on various occult
40:54
subjects. It isn't all Satanism.
40:56
I lecture on voodoo, West Indian magic, African magic, Norse
41:00
magic and also try to help people with various problems and
41:06
lighten them on these concepts of magic, folklore and offbeat
41:10
religions. This is how I got involved in
41:12
this as a religion. Does it pay well?
41:15
It pays the bills, it looks. Like a pretty cheap suit you're
41:18
wearing. It's not even a suit.
41:21
Now come to think of it, the jacket doesn't match the
41:23
trousers. It's pretty much the same as
41:25
yours. I doubt it.
41:28
I never knew they put on burlap bags before today.
41:31
No, this isn't. You're wearing boots too, aren't
41:33
you? That's right.
41:34
These are the same kind of boots that motorcycle.
41:36
Costs. Did you come here on a?
41:37
This makes me a saddest, too. Are you a saddest also?
41:40
Oh, yes. Are you also a masochist?
41:42
Well, a little bit. Well, maybe that's why I'm here.
41:45
Any other questions? Well, I would like to know if
41:47
this actually substantiates your house, your expenses.
41:50
You have two children. How can you live on the people
41:53
that support you? They must have to give you an
41:55
awful lot of money. Not really, because after all,
41:58
if a person is conducting themselves in any kind of
42:02
business, it doesn't have to mean that they're taking 100 or
42:06
200 or $500 from each person. My fees are very.
42:10
Can you picture his kids filling out a form for school?
42:14
What is your father do? He's a bald headed devil.
42:19
Oh. Man.
42:21
All right, this is the last time I I can put up with that host
42:26
for so long and all that. So I I do want to point this
42:30
out. I do believe that a tithing is
42:34
important. I believe that people should
42:37
help out their churches and all that, But I'll be the first one.
42:40
Many of you know that I'm a former atheist.
42:44
I used to be in a position where I lacked faith in God, I lacked
42:48
belief in deities and all that. And I do feel like there are
42:53
still a lot of churches even now, even though I believe in
42:56
God, that rip people off, that take advantage of people and
42:59
they trick people and do all this kind of things.
43:02
But I do believe the people out there who are sincere in their
43:05
faith, who do sincerely follow God, I do believe that they
43:09
should get some kind of support and compensation for their
43:15
services. If they didn't get money, they
43:17
wouldn't be able to keep the church open and be able to do
43:19
some of the services they do, like soup kitchens and being
43:23
able to help people with clothing and do all these.
43:26
They need the donations and support.
43:28
So I can't be hypocritical and say that if a person has another
43:33
religion outside of Christianity, but they shouldn't
43:37
be able to make some kind of compensation off of whatever
43:39
services they feel like they're providing.
43:42
You know, no matter if I agree with it or not, if they're
43:45
providing something and people are paying, then so be it.
43:50
Just as long as you're not committing fraud or you're lying
43:53
to people or being deceptive or scamming people.
43:58
If you're doing that, then your ass belongs in a cage.
44:02
That's how I feel. But so far it seems like the guy
44:06
believes in what he's talking about, and whenever he's
44:09
teaching people whatever he thinks to be true or right, he
44:13
actually believes that. He doesn't seem like he's well,
44:16
at least in this video, lying. He actually seems like a pretty
44:20
sensible fella who's trying to have a conversation and answer
44:24
questions. Here we go, Unlike the Church of
44:26
Satan. No, that's all.
44:34
Thank you. That'll hold.
44:35
Thank you. Step forward, Sir, and state
44:37
your name, please. Steve Friedman.
44:40
Reverend, I'm a little curious about that lion you say that you
44:44
sleep with. How how can the two of you is
44:49
your wife and your yourself be in bed with the lion?
44:54
Probably not easy. Well, the bed is not made for
44:57
the lion. The lion sleeps next to the bed
45:00
at the foot of the bed. How's that for a watchdog?
45:03
I thought I had a good with a karate monkey, but does, doesn't
45:07
it? Doesn't it kind of shake your
45:09
wife up, being so close to the line like that?
45:11
No, it's a rather secure feeling.
45:13
You know, there's never any problem with prowlers or
45:16
burglars. Yeah, but they have been known
45:18
to turn on you, haven't they? Well, he has chained, so he can
45:20
only go so far. Well, listen, our time's all up.
45:23
I'd like to tell you where to go, but you'd enjoy it.
45:25
Oh, that's good. We'll be back with another guest
45:27
after these words. Stand by.
45:31
Oh boy, what a deck that host is.
45:34
Well, ladies and gentlemen, I think that I proved the point.
45:38
Not only did I prove without a doubt that the Satanist who was
45:43
in my room was right about his claims on Levayan and from some
45:48
of his this man's writings that was in my show, but I also
45:52
proved that the Church of Satan and a lot of the Satanic little
45:56
clubs out here with emo kids who are wannabe, you know, 90s
46:02
versions of Marilyn Manson, they don't follow it.
46:05
They're what pagans referred to as fluffy bunnies.
46:08
They're posers. They they don't even follow
46:11
their own rules and all that. And I suppose, you know, if we
46:16
were to be honest about this, they do claim that they're a
46:19
part of associated with Satan. So you shouldn't really expect
46:23
any kind of real truth out of it.
46:26
However, I didn't really hear a whole lot of things coming from
46:29
Levan himself that, you know, there's anything there that I
46:36
have to argue with or go off on him about.
46:40
A lot of philosophy he said was stable, it was founded.
46:44
It's obvious that he put a lot of thought into why he has the
46:48
views and ideas. I think that unfortunately, had
46:52
he not been, instead of people using him as a target, if they
46:56
would have spent more time with him sharing the message of
47:00
Christ and love with him instead of mocking him and pissing all
47:04
over him and trying to make him out to be the bad guy, they
47:10
might have been able to bring him over to Christianity.
47:12
Like what actually happened to Marilyn Manson, as well as
47:15
several, several celebrities and musicians throughout the years
47:20
who were on a dark path? Unfortunately, as you can see,
47:23
they didn't. I don't know if it could be
47:26
blamed on the Christians or mainstream media, which I've
47:29
never trusted, but it looks like society wanted to.
47:34
They put Satan on themselves, they tattooed that on the
47:38
themselves and society decided to say, oh, you want to be our
47:43
bullseye, you want to be our target, fine, then we'll we'll
47:47
use you as such. So it was basically a give and
47:49
take relationship. Disgusting, gross.
47:54
I actually, I'm going to say something that's going to be
47:57
really odd for you folks out there, but I wish I would have
48:01
had the opportunity to actually have this man Levay and up on my
48:06
show and talk to him. I wish I would have had the time
48:10
or the ability to actually minister to him and also listen
48:15
to more of what his views are and ideas so I could understand
48:21
where he's coming from and maybe be able to give him some words
48:24
of wisdom. And who knows, maybe he would
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have given me some words of wisdom back.
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That's why I like doing my open podcast and my shows.
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I like learning from people and I like helping people if I can.
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And it seems like genuinely in the show, that's what he thinks
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he's doing. Well, who knows?
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Ladies and gentlemen, you've been listening to Brett Keene.
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Let me know what you think in the comments.
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Twitter. I'm at Twitter at Brett Keene
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show. Yadda, yadda yadda.
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As you can see right under my picture.