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Nolan Wells Investigation & Racism in America (w. Alaina Bamfield) · Brief Recess: A Legal Podcast with Michael Foote & Mélissa Malebranche

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  Speaker 1: This episode deals with sexual assault and violence, and we
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  Speaker 1: are going to put graphic on the screen of resources
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  Speaker 1: you can reach out to. Welcome to Brief Recess. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Michael Foot Melissa Albret. Today we're going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the great City of Boston. I like, We're going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about Melissa's unfiltered thoughts on picky Eaters. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about her mother and how she's going to
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  Speaker 1: She's going to teach us how to do it like
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  Speaker 1: a lady.
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  Speaker 2: A lady. Wait, no, that sounds wrong, it sounds very bad.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the Nolan Wells case, which
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  Speaker 1: has incredible traction online right now. And we have a
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  Speaker 1: special guest, Elena Bamfield, who's a stand up comic and
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  Speaker 1: has a new special out. And we're also going to
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  Speaker 1: answer all your burning questions from the dm So stick around.
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  Speaker 2: The migrating Killers today about migrating fillers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the all the MAGA influencers with migrating fillers that
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  Speaker 1: hate immigrants. How are you going to hate immigrants?
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  Speaker 2: Your faces melted?
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  Speaker 1: Why is your cheek over there without a green card?
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  Speaker 2: Girl?
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  Speaker 1: It's and you know it's true. These fillers are unregulated.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, Let's immediately get into a sidebar about
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  Speaker 1: plastic surgery.
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  Speaker 2: Because what's in the fillers.
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  Speaker 1: People are getting dog walked by their fillings.
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  Speaker 3: Thing about it is that you could be given permission
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  Speaker 3: to do fillers after taking like a course. So your dentist,
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  Speaker 3: for example, whose expertise should be teeth, is now this
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  Speaker 3: best side hustle is the filler. Yeah, you know, not
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  Speaker 3: to say that that can't work, but I think that
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to like your face, that's not the
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  Speaker 3: time to look for a discount a bargain, do you know,
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  Speaker 3: But do you know.
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  Speaker 1: What I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Like, you should not go for the cheapest version, yes,
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  Speaker 3: of the.
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  Speaker 1: Thing anywhere else on the body, but the face. I
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  Speaker 1: mean Actually, because I'm getting my NAD injections from a
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  Speaker 1: lady that I met on the internet and I've never
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  Speaker 1: met her. She just mails it to my house. And
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  Speaker 1: now that I think about it, these supplements are from
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  Speaker 1: someone that don't know, but they come from she orders them.
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  Speaker 1: She's like a doctor. But they come from a pharmacy.
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  Speaker 1: I think it says pharmacy on it.
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  Speaker 2: I could do that. I could make you well, I
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  Speaker 2: could scrapatize you a label. Right now, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, but it's working. It feels great. I love the
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  Speaker 1: NED injections they're doing.
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  Speaker 2: What do they do for you? I'm not really sure.
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  Speaker 2: So you know how we sort of joke.
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  Speaker 3: Around a lot that, you know, we think that we
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  Speaker 3: both have really bad ADHD.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I think it's from the injections.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, maybe so I haven't been joking. I definitely
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  Speaker 3: think that I do. So this morning I was I
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  Speaker 3: was listening to NPR and there was a whole segment
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  Speaker 3: about how eighty usually they had based all the studies
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  Speaker 3: on white little boys, right, and not really looking at
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  Speaker 3: a bigger picture of encompassing boys and girls and different
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  Speaker 3: races and stuff. And and what they're saying now is
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  Speaker 3: a lot of women have gone undiagnosed with ADHD. It
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  Speaker 3: especially like all the mechanisms that you have come up
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  Speaker 3: with to sort of get you through life. When perimenopause hits,
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  Speaker 3: it disintegrates, it just goes, it just goes, and like
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  Speaker 3: and and of.
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  Speaker 1: Course they didn't study they were like, oh, we only
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  Speaker 1: studied little white boys. Were also going to expand it
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  Speaker 1: to include middle grade boys who are.
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  Speaker 4: Boys.
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  Speaker 3: So there's a there's a woman who is should not
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  Speaker 3: be a psychiatrist.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, she did this whole study.
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  Speaker 3: She has a center and there was and I went
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  Speaker 3: to the NPR thing I found it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, this is burving. You don't have ADHD honestly, the
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  Speaker 1: fact that you followed because would let me switch the
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  Speaker 1: radio station.
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  Speaker 3: Let me tell you what I had to do though
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  Speaker 3: while it was while I was listening to it, and
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  Speaker 3: it resonated with me so much that I immediately texted
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  Speaker 3: it to myself.
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  Speaker 2: Because I do that too, because I would have forgotten
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  Speaker 2: about it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: If, yes, if that's what I had to do. People
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  Speaker 1: are like, oh, let's multi factor authenticate the emails. I'm like, no, MFA.
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  Speaker 1: My text to myself reminders that's where the realty is,
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  Speaker 1: that is where the everything's actually going down. That's where
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  Speaker 1: my Social Security numbers. I'm texting it all to myself.
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  Speaker 1: You know so much license, No, I have.
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  Speaker 2: I memorized it, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Because I memorized it because I wanted to sign up
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  Speaker 1: for credit cards at the department store when I was
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  Speaker 1: in my twenties.
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  Speaker 2: But we all did it. We all did it.
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  Speaker 3: We're all done to children. When I was in college,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if they did this to you all.
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  Speaker 3: When I was in college, the the credit card companies
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  Speaker 3: would come to campus, set up, set up, see got one,
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  Speaker 3: set up tables and like give away, stupid free ship.
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  Speaker 2: But here's a cup, here's a cup. Sign up for
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  Speaker 2: this kind of credit cards a gateway drug.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, I cannot and I mean interest. And the
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  Speaker 3: thing about it is is like people will get excited, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: got a free toaster. I'm doing it, Michael. It wasn't
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  Speaker 3: even a free toast, it was it was.
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  Speaker 1: Like, oh no, And so what was your first credit card?
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  Speaker 2: It was?
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  Speaker 3: It was it was a city bank, like Visa or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're already in debt with the student loans, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you went to college in Boston.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I thought that.
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  Speaker 1: Was I just assumed there's very few things to do
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  Speaker 1: in Boston, so I figured you went there for French.
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  Speaker 3: So I think, Michael, I think you should speak directly
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  Speaker 3: to camera and speak to the people in Boston.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm happy to speak to anyway.
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  Speaker 2: I think what you need to do, don't tell me
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  Speaker 2: to apologize.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to say to you. I'm going to say
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  Speaker 3: to you as your friend. Yeah, who loves you. I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to say to you that you should reiterate that
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  Speaker 3: your experiences in Boston have been negative because you associate
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  Speaker 3: them with a toxic X, which is okay.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm going to stop you right there because I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to do that well and I'm not going.
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  Speaker 2: To do that. So so you like this, You enjoy this.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, This has been the joy of this is Christmas Morning.
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  Speaker 1: Opening up the comment section about Boston. They got off
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  Speaker 1: the TA at eleven fifty nine because a shutdown. They
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  Speaker 1: went right to JP LICKX and Coolidge Corner and then
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  Speaker 1: Anis Takaia and they can take all of that and
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  Speaker 1: shove it, because I'm coming for you, City of Boston.
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  Speaker 1: You ain't got nothing on me. You're all stuck in traffic,
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  Speaker 1: you don't know how to drive. And the only reason
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  Speaker 1: I'm coming to Boston I found one thing that I
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  Speaker 1: would go to Boston for. There are these four dogs
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  Speaker 1: that are really cute and allegedly there's a Westy Dogs
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  Speaker 1: the Westiest. Yeah, that is the only thing you got
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  Speaker 1: going for you, and you know it, and that's why
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  Speaker 1: you're coming for me, because you ain't got nothing else
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  Speaker 1: going on that you got the time to come for me,
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  Speaker 1: so keep it, and I'll reiterate those four.
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  Speaker 2: Dogs they're very cute.
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  Speaker 1: I would actually go just for them. And there's allegedly
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  Speaker 1: a fifth one. I hear that there who doesn't like
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  Speaker 1: going outside.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he doesn't like they don't like going out with
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  Speaker 3: the other dogs. They prefer personal time. And I gotta
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  Speaker 3: tell you, Westy, I feel you.
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  Speaker 1: So that Boston, I'll give you the Westies because that
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  Speaker 1: is very cute and idiosyncratic for that fifth dog.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Boston, next.
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  Speaker 1: Time you're in line at duncan, you can come for me.
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  Speaker 1: You can because next time you're cutting someone off without
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  Speaker 1: the anker with your Massachusetts license plate to peel into
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  Speaker 1: the dunkin to wait in the drive through line, you
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  Speaker 1: can come for me. Because I'm not bothered. I'm not pressed.
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  Speaker 1: My edges laying flat, My edges are my edges are bumped,
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  Speaker 1: my edges are fried.
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  Speaker 3: I mean your edges are non existent. Boston, you heard
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  Speaker 3: me try. I tried, and again I will reiterate to
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  Speaker 3: you that I have no beef with Boston. I haven't
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  Speaker 3: been very many times, but you know what, Boston, come
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  Speaker 3: into my dms. Give me suggestions, and I will. I'll
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  Speaker 3: come visit, just.
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  Speaker 1: As long as it's not food picky eater, just as
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  Speaker 1: long as it's not telling Melissa how she needs to
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  Speaker 1: like picky eaters. How about a picky eater in Boston.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get them on the show. Where's that representation? Where's
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  Speaker 1: their pride parade the Boston.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure there is, because they are the picaters are
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  Speaker 2: upset with me and at the network. I don't, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what to say. I I also sort of
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  Speaker 2: stand ten toes down.
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  Speaker 1: You picked two stubborn tauruses to start fights with on
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  Speaker 1: the internet.
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  Speaker 3: I think, especially because I thought that I was clear
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  Speaker 3: that you know, I understand. Oh my god, the ship
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  Speaker 3: that I got. Anyway, I understand, you know what. Never mind,
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  Speaker 3: I am ten toes down. I know what I meant.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry if you don't know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: If there was a miscommunication.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think I think I thought I was
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  Speaker 3: clear when I said I am not talking about somebody
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  Speaker 3: who has a diagnosis, right. People then said to me
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  Speaker 3: that I don't people don't owe me a diagnosis.
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  Speaker 2: Now that's that.
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  Speaker 3: Is that is absolutely true. What I was really talking
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  Speaker 3: about is when somebody is with me and we are
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  Speaker 3: going someplace and they don't eat anything clay pasta and
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  Speaker 3: chicken nuggets. That makes it difficult for me. I think
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  Speaker 3: that you should be free to eat whatever you want,
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  Speaker 3: whenever you want, both here with other people. Have you
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  Speaker 3: ever got on vacation with the picky eater?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's spoiling down to you don't like people ordering
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  Speaker 1: off the menu.
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  Speaker 2: That's not at all. That's not it at all. I
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  Speaker 2: don't that's not it all.
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  Speaker 3: And what The other thing I really really hate is
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  Speaker 3: if you are me, I am eating something and somebody
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  Speaker 3: who doesn't like anything is looking at me and they're like, ill.
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  Speaker 2: That makes me so mad.
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  Speaker 1: That makes me that to you, oh well, we don't
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  Speaker 1: listen to him.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, but the only listen to a husband,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he'll not the only one like I think.
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  Speaker 2: I find that so I find it really rude. I
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  Speaker 2: find it so yeah, it's it is.
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  Speaker 3: The What and it becomes a problem for me is
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  Speaker 3: when we go someplace as a group and then there's
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  Speaker 3: like the one person who's just like, I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to eat this. I don't want to eat this. I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to eat this. I don't want to eat this.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care what you do. Go to the cheesecake factory.
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  Speaker 3: I'm in no problem.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the cheesecake factory. First of all, they have everything.
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  Speaker 2: I've never had a bad meal the cheesecake.
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  Speaker 1: And there's no ear said the cheesecake factory, because you
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  Speaker 1: could get whatever you want. So if you're a picky
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  Speaker 1: eater at the cheesecake factory, that's a U problem.
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  Speaker 2: No you're not. There's no such thing. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: there is. I think there is no.
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  Speaker 3: I think you can find and if you are somebody
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  Speaker 3: who eats very simply, you can.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, the cheesecake factory is what the UN used
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  Speaker 1: to be. It's like where you would come to like
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  Speaker 1: neutralize like any political situation, like I honestly think like
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  Speaker 1: if we held the UN delegation now at the cheesecake factory,
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  Speaker 1: like we could probably solve a lot more problems.
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  Speaker 3: So I am not going to Belgium with somebody who
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  Speaker 3: is going to have me on a jackass parade looking
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  Speaker 3: for chicken nuggets.
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  Speaker 2: That's the parade, that's what I mean. Going to hell
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  Speaker 2: and gasoline panties, going to hell and ghastline with a.
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  Speaker 1: Chicken finger in your hand. Let's get into algorithm is
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  Speaker 1: showing because I want to ask you me if it
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  Speaker 1: being a picky eater?
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  Speaker 2: Is it?
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  Speaker 1: Is it okay to do it? If you're doing it
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  Speaker 1: like a lady.
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  Speaker 2: It took me a second, Take you a minute, Just
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  Speaker 2: a minute, Do it like a lady.
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  Speaker 1: Do it like a lady. Friends met Melissa's mother, and I.
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  Speaker 3: See my mom making comments on other people's Instagrams, and
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  Speaker 3: it comes as a shock to me.
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  Speaker 1: You know, when you open the comments section on an Instagram,
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  Speaker 1: people at home, and you can see someone you know
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  Speaker 1: commenting on like a New York Times cooking rest anything,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes I'll see you comment on it, and it's
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  Speaker 1: usually just like people, you know, they bump it up
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  Speaker 1: to the top so you can engage with your friend
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  Speaker 1: who also commented on that CNN News circle. So Melissa
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  Speaker 1: does opens up the comment section sometimes and her mother
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  Speaker 1: else Magalie just.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what's really funny.
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  Speaker 3: I remember the comment, but I don't remember what she
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  Speaker 3: was commenting about.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I remember because I saw it because she and
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  Speaker 1: I follow each other. It was there was a a
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  Speaker 1: woman like freaking out at a pickup at a restaurant.
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  Speaker 1: She was like picking up her takeout order and was
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  Speaker 1: like upset that they didn't have enough sauce in the
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  Speaker 1: bag or something. They forgot something, and this woman was
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  Speaker 1: crashing out. Okay, your mother commented, let's pull it up
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  Speaker 1: because it's so good, and you've got to do a
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  Speaker 1: dramatic greeting for us.
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  Speaker 2: I have it because my mom.
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  Speaker 3: The other thing is, my mom will accept anyone's friend.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna block up, We're gonna we're trying to protect
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  Speaker 2: her from herself.
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  Speaker 1: It's not what y'all are gonna say Ani Melissa's mom
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  Speaker 1: that she's gonna accept everybody's.
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  Speaker 3: My mom My mom accepted someone's friend requests randomly, and
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  Speaker 3: this person started calling her, started calling her.
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  Speaker 5: Through the.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yes, you will do that to me sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: And so my mom was this man, this man, this man,
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  Speaker 3: this random man started calling me and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: who is it?
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  Speaker 2: She was like I don't know. I'm like, why are
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  Speaker 2: your friends with him? She's like, well he requested.
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  Speaker 1: It, Melissa, why are you fighting with your own mother?
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  Speaker 1: And the comments on this video? You replied to her.
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  Speaker 2: What did she say? Sorry?
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  Speaker 3: So basically what it is is that this woman didn't
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  Speaker 3: want to pay for her food right. She didn't want
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  Speaker 3: to pay for her food, and she was trying to
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  Speaker 3: walk out, and then the police came to arrest her,
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  Speaker 3: and she was just like, are you going to arrest
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  Speaker 3: me for taking food? And the officer was like, yes,
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  Speaker 3: you didn't pay for it, you gotta take it. And
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  Speaker 3: then I don't know what the woman said, and then
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  Speaker 3: my mom says, it's probably not her first. It's probably
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  Speaker 3: not her first time I pay for my food. Do
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  Speaker 3: like I do like a lady?
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  Speaker 2: Like a lady? Like? Do I do like a lady? So,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god. So now what the other thing? It
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  Speaker 2: has a lot of likes. The comment has like a
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  Speaker 2: good number of likes.
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  Speaker 3: But so I responded to my mother and I and
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  Speaker 3: I chimed in my brother and I was just like,
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  Speaker 3: take mom's phone away from her. And my cousin responded
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  Speaker 3: to me, which I didn't know, and said you will not.
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  Speaker 3: My other cousin responded to her and said, I'll make
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  Speaker 3: sure of it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god. So you know what the.
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  Speaker 1: Whole Aitian community Asian.
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  Speaker 3: All right, I'm done talking about Maglie because she's she's
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  Speaker 3: out of my control. Yeah, what's been in your algorithm?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so I've been completely subsumed by videos about the
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  Speaker 1: Nolan Wells case in my feed. I've watched every single
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  Speaker 1: one of them that comes up. I've made some myself
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  Speaker 1: because Nancy Grace entered the chat last week.
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  Speaker 2: She sure did talk.
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  Speaker 1: About Edges bumped with vengeance. Yes, because she is here,
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  Speaker 1: her foot.
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  Speaker 2: Blue eyeliner. Yeah, she's in it. No, no, no, I.
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  Speaker 3: Was, but I watched is crazy, but I watched it,
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  Speaker 3: and she is, I mean understandably, so right, Oh my.
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  Speaker 2: God, you lived.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm so glad that she's here because I've had
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  Speaker 1: someone like her, and I've been following the case for
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  Speaker 1: so long. This has been percolating on my feet ever
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  Speaker 1: since I think it was they found his body July sixth,
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  Speaker 1: So this has been but it's always been very alternative, ultraliberal,
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  Speaker 1: progressive socialist accounts post posting about it. It hasn't been
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  Speaker 1: mainstream media attention, which is heartbreaking because a young man
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  Speaker 1: is dead. He's a freshman in college, a young black
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  Speaker 1: man is.
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  Speaker 2: Part of the course. And it is exactly it really is,
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  Speaker 2: and it had.
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  Speaker 1: All the makings of potentially becoming oops. You know, we
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  Speaker 1: didn't investigate it. We couldn't find anything, and every and
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  Speaker 1: the media moves on.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: It had all the fixings for that to possibly happen,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: and now it is not going to happen, not because
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, but also because they got a very famous
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: civil rights attorney.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: But I will say the fact that Nancy Grace did
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: enter the chat has not heard, not heard any No.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Don Lemon was talking about it since the beginning. He
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: was talking about it a lot.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but we would I'm sorry, we would expect Don
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Lemon to talk about it. I mean usually once something
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: bad happens to a black person, yeah, we expect.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Black reporters and media to pick it up right right.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: When white media picks it up, it gets more attention.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: And that is just those are just the facts.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: That is an objective truth. That is like not even
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: up for debate. It's just how it goes. And so
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: this case has been dominating my feed because there are
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: so many suspicious circumstances around his death and they're saying that.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: So it happened on Horne Island, which is a ten
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: miles sandbar with no infrastructure. It's ten miles off the
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: coast of Mississippi, and there's this Fourth of July party
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: that's there every year. Nolan Wells was an eighteen year
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: old college freshman and he went there to celebrate the
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Fourth of July with a big group of his friends. Now,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: the last time he was seen was, according to his friends,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: they left him on this island with a girl that
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: he was with, and that was around three pm. No
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: one knows who this girl is. They just said a
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: first name. We left him there. All of the friends
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: are white, yeah, out, yeah, all the friends.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Are white in this particular scenario.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: In this scenario, yeah, And they're like, oh no, we
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: left him there around three pm. No one's seen him
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: since his body turns up two days later in the water.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: One of the things that I, you know, I never
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: understand is you go someplace with a group of friends,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: you got to leave with the same group of friends.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: The idea that his friends left him behind on an
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: island with no infrastructure.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: So how was he supposed to get back from that, right,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: even if he was with this girl, did she have
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: a boat? This girl that no one knows who she is,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: and we still can't find her and nobody's heard from
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: her yet.
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: So the friends went there with three boats, right, seven
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: of them left on one boat. Because that boat was sinking,
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: they they made a distress call to the coast Guard.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: The sea tow.
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, one of the boats left, which had most of
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: his close friends on it. Yes, And then I guess
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: they were like, we just figured he would get one
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: of the other two boats.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: That's but his cell phone was on that boat that left,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: right that. You don't you don't go anywhere without your
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: cell phone. That's an eighteen. I won't go anywhere without
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: my cell phone.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: And the boat that sank, they called se tow to
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: be like, hey help us. And now the audio of
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: that call is being released. People are like manipulating the
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: audio to hear what's happening in the background, and there
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: are reports today that it sounds like they're yelling Nolan's name,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: wake up?
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Is he dead?
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: They're saying all this stuff in the background on the
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: sea tow call. So I think this is my theory
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: is that he was on that boat and there was
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: an accident injury. He was hurt and passed out, collapsed
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: and died. That's what I think happened.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: And they dumped his body.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they probably panicked. Yeah, dumped his body. I
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: don't think this is like a murder situation. That is
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: my That's what I'm reading in what I've seen so far.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: But I think there was a they panic, tried to
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: cover it up, and now they're all hiding what actually happened.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: On that boat.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, and the autopsy inconclusive, so the family is paying
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: for an independent autopsy.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: To be the independent autopsy. That's right. I did see that.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: So the state examined the body the state medical examiner.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: According to doctor Mitchell, the soft tissue redness in the
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: back of the head the occipital region were not discovered
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: by the state medical examiner. They missed that in the
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: initial report, and the area of the throat and the
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: neck were not provided. They held it back and didn't
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: give it to the independent examiner.
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: Why the independent people? This chief medical examer. He was like,
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: that's not I'm not saying that's suspicious. What I'm saying
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: is that they probably held that back because they're doing
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: further now is on it to see if there's science
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: of strangulation. He's like, so that's why they were still
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: testing it. That's what he assumes. But he did say
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: that they did not I guess do dissections on other
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: part of his skull because he was like, this was
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: like a fresh hematoma on the back of his head.
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: It was red, which means that it was like fresh
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: and it wasn't from like water, because I guess water
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: can cause kind of swelling and redness too.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Was his body was in the water for over a day.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: So that call to the Cetau distress call the boat sinking.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: We've got dialogue in the back crown about how there's
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: people are yelling Nolan, wake up, Nolan, Nolan? He is
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: he dead? What's happening? His phone was on that boat,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: it wasn't on the island.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: It returned and his mom said that when she went
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: through his phone, all the things that should have been
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: there were missing, like Snapchat delivers, all those things were deleted,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: and she said that she knows her son. That never
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: would have happened. I mean, who's deleted? I mean, nobody
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: is really deleting unless you're trying to hide something. Nobody
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: is deleting messages off their phone, no way. You know,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: anytime I see like the.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Lone black kid with a group of white friends, I
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: get worried.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Especially in the South. I mean in Mississippi.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: I mean having been occasionally the when when I was younger,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: When I was younger, occasionally the only black friend in
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: a group of white people. There have been things that
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: have been said that I wish that when I had
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: heard those things when I was sixteen, that I would
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: have had the voice that I needed to be able
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: to say something to those people. I'm always concerned about
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: seeing one black friend with a group of white friends. Now, obviously,
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: most black people who are friends with all white people
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: don't die mysteriously, right, So I don't want to make
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: it seem that way, But there is I feel like
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: we need to tell black and brown kids to just
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: be careful, to be on alert.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: We have to tell white kids to not be pieces
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: of shit.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: We do, we do, But you can't control that. But
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: you can control what you tell your kid. Sure, yes, right,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: so you can control what you tell your kids. No, Like,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: there are things I say to KP because she's my kid,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: do you know what I mean?
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Also, it's also like the way that black and brown
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: people get treated by white kids is learned behavior, just
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: learned behavior from parents, from other adults in their life,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: from other kids. Yeah, so that's at least like what
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I see coming from white communities. I see people who
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: have kids who treat other black kids a certain way,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I see where that came from. You
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, There's so many racial dynamics going
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: on in this case, right, I mean the notion that
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: if there was an accident and those kids were that
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: whatever the accident was, whether it was someone's fault, whether
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: someone tripped and fell, whatever it was, or if there
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: was malice, The fact that a group of teenagers thought
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: it was okay.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I don't know that somebody
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: would let's assume that this was an accident, right, I
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: don't think that anybody who's involved in an accident would
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: assume that it's okay. I think panic takes over and
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: you do the first thing. You know, You're like, how
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: am I going to hide this? Because I don't want
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: to get caught up and I'm going to get in
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: so much trouble.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Right, I don't do.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: This, So it doesn't make it okay, obviously, But I
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: think that, Yeah, I think panic sets in. And what
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: I think is really interesting is whenever there's like a
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: terrible idea, no matter what the idea is, right, Oh,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: let's say this kid got hurt, he died. And if
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: I say to you, if you and I are involved,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: and I say to you, Michael, let's just leave it
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: and just run away, and I get you to agree
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: with it, and then you tell CJ and CJ the
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: way that a bad idea is infectious. Absolutely, it's so contagious.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: And that's especially especially when you're that age. And then
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: that fear right, I'm going to get in trouble. And
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: this is huge trouble, right, And the thing is a
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: secret is no longer a secret if more than two
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: people know about it, right? And I don't know how
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: many people are involved in this at this point, it's
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: going to collapse.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, in my mind it's bifurcated. It is what happened
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: on the boat, everyone who was there, right, and then
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: what happened after we found a body in the water.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: The district Attorney's office, the investigators, the medical examiners, the
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: person conducting the autopsy, the people who transported the body
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: without the throat and the neck. In my mind, it's
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: like a bunch of teenagers, but also government officials in Mississippi.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: What are they doing right? How has this been mishandled?
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: By them from the inception.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Right July sixth and when the body was found, right, so,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: and I.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Mean, and where are these other kids? Who's talking to them?
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah? What? Like? What is happening?
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Where's the girl that he was allegedly on the island with?
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Who is she?
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Where's the search? Where's the man hunt for her?
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Is she missing?
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: What?
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: As a defense attorney, I'm always what's that behind you?
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Boom?
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Hitting the head with fucking evidence of digital footprint evidence
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: that is so damning that it totally screws up my defense.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: My entire case. That's screwed up because by the phone record,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: by the So, where is that in this case?
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I think if they how how come they didn't? Where
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: is that?
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: With the investigators in the DA's office, we.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Don't find this.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: It is because they don't want to exactly, because I
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: think that there are too many people. There's and you
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: know there is always a week link, right?
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: And are these white affluent families and a small town
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: is the safe?
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, but no matter the group, there's always a
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: week link.
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: I don't care if you're rich, I don't care if
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: you're poor. There's a week link someplace. Find the weak
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: link and push down on it. I wonder what's going
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: to happen.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I'm really interested to watch because I think I'm really hope,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I'm really hoping that there will be accountability, that there
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: will be some sort of I hope.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: So, I hope.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: So they are in the throes of the investigation right now,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: and there's a lot of attention on this, so every
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: little piece of information is getting highly scrutinized.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: And you know, the stories like this always bring up
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: similar stories of other situations. There have been the lone
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: black or brown person in a group of white friends
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: who sort of goes missing and what and you know,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: and it's always like there was an accident, but the
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: cover up, the attempt at a cover up.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Saw this, but there was this absolutely reprehensible person who
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: posted a TikTok I'll find it for you, and a
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: white man who was just like, yeah, that's what we do.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: We take we know y'all can't swim, and we take
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: you guys out, and that's what we do. And then
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: there was another story. It was a woman in her
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: family is the white woman, and her family was kayaking.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: They were kayaking and she came across this young African
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: American teenage boy whose friends had left him knowing that
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: he couldn't swim. She could hear them, and you can
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: hear it in the video, them in the background thinking
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: this is the hilarious making monkey sounds.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I'll just find away.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: They think, I'm but I can bro you have a
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: life jacket.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: I'm going to die.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I was like, really really disgusting things. And that's and
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: that is the thing.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: I know that people moved to certain parts of the
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: country to better their lives. Right, you want to give
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: your kid the best opportunity, and sometimes that means that
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: your kid is going to be in a predominantly white space.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: You gotta be careful.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: It's the only thing that I can say about it,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: because speaking from myself who grew up in Queens in
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: a very multicultural environment, but sometimes I was in a
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: predominantly white space. And I can remember moments of being
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: not in danger. I was never in danger, but moments
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: of being uncomfortable.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: You were in physical danger.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I was in physical danger, the.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Psychological emotional danger, for sure.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, these are things and it's so interesting. These
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: are things that every now and then just pop into
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: my head.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: I just remember it.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah right, And I'm like, and I wish so badly that,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: but you can't. Sixteen year old you is not thirty
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: whatever you.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Do, you know, and that hindsight is always twenty twenty.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: I just like, I keep thinking, I keep coming back
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: to this, like all those tropes that you just talked about,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: like swimming monkey noises, like those are from before the
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: turn of the ninth the twentieth century, Like these are
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: one hundred year old, two hundred year old racial tropes
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: that kids in America are still perpetuating. Yeah, it's just.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: They hear it somewhere.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Exactly, Mom, Dad, Yeah, yeah right. I don't know this
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: notion that like those things are not powerful.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: It's like they're very powerful.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: And I think that people because it makes people uncomfortable,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: they don't want to talk about it. And you know,
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: and people who are of a certain ilk will say,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: this is wokeism, this is you want you want white
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: kids to feel bad. No, we don't want black kids
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: to feel bad, and we want to educate everybody. These
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: are the reasons why this is harmful. Because again, in
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: the second video that I'm telling you about with the
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: woman with the kid.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: They thought it was hilarious.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Worry about you, right, they thought it was hilarious, not
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: really understanding because their kids the impact of at what
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: that is going to do to this young because they're kids.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: So the things that I heard.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: When I was sixteen, I don't think that the person
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: who said those things and did those things ever thought
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: that forty years later that I would be thinking about
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: it and talking about it.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I think about like I see these videos of like
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: teachers or principals who have the all are welcome sort
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: of like shirt or sign in their office, and you know,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: there are all sorts of conservative people who don't like
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: that and attack the school and the teacher or whatever.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: But there is this one woman video where she's the
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: woman's like, well, what what is on your shirt? And
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: she's like, you know what's on my shirt? We've talked
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: about this. You know who I am. You've been in
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: my office.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I still distress. She was a principal.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like, you know exactly who I am. You
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: don't have to ask my name. We have already discussed this,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: you know, or my office is.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: That you have a nice day, missus Smith. Yeah, I
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: saw that ye keep it basically holding up the traffic. Yes,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: say that, Yeah she did.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: But it does make me think about like those people
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: who are the one person who is the safe person
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: for you to come talk to it school, everyone had
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: like I hope that all.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Kids I do.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: To the woman who was kayaking with her family, I
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: left her message she posted on Instagram. Moms just like
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: a She's like a mom, thank you for your super
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: mom Jean right, you are such a good example for
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: your kids.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Are you okay?
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Hey?
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: Are you okay?
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: Okay?
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Okay. I would.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: And I sent a message to the kid and I
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: was just like, you need to listen to your auntie
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: and your internet auntie Melissa. And I'm telling you that
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: these are not your friends. It's not funny, it's not you.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Were in danger. Better to have no friends. Yeah.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Also, like, don't strive to be don't strive to be
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: a good a good mom to your kids. Strive to
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: be the mom that all the other kids come to
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: with the problem, be the safe.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Mom for all the kids at the I mean I
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: had never seen this woman's contents before, but in that moment, yeah,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: what a good mom, Yeah, what a good mom.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: They're Yeah finding like one mom like that at the
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: school who was like.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: The good the good mom, the cool mom.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, let's take a break.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: We've got to Oh we have a guest. We do. Yeah,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: I'm really excited. Yeah, we'll be right back.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the pod. We are here with Elna Bamfield.
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  Speaker 1: She's a Brooklyn based stand up comedian who just released
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  Speaker 1: her debut special Untouchable on YouTube. At age thirteen, Elena
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: was among the survivors of the USA gymnastics doctor Larry Nasser.
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  Speaker 3: She co hosts the Delightly Spooky Bedtime pregame live stream
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  Speaker 3: with fellow comedian Abby Vohman Monday nights at eight pm.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to brief re Sas.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for being Thank you so much for having me,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: So excited to have you.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: So we were just talking about Brooklyn and how Melissa
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: are going to thrift Con.
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  Speaker 3: With our friend Alyssa, who we talk about on the
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: podcast all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, and it is going to be chaos. You should
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: totally come. She's an agent of chaos.
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  Speaker 5: What day is thrift Con?
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  Speaker 2: Saturday? August?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, this Saturday, Saturday? So aris on Thursday, So this
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: all so on Saturday. Anyway, I'll text it to the detail.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to tell the viewers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're going to be there.
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  Speaker 1: But we love thrifting anyway, welcome to the show. Super
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  Speaker 1: excited to chat with you. You've got this incredible special
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: right now.
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  Speaker 2: How's it going?
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: It's going reception then it's hysterical by the way, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I love it. I've seen so many clips on TikTok too.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: They're all over my feet. So everyone like and following, comment,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: engage with the posts.
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  Speaker 2: Content friends, it's all the content.
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: That's all the game is now is content. Content. But no,
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: it's been going really well.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: I'm actually I can't be more happy with how it's gone, honestly.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: I mean it's been almost two months and it's almost
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: got fifteen thousand views, which is wow, way more than
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: I thought, you know, I would have by now.
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  Speaker 5: I guess it's just one of those things. Fro'm like,
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: it's not monetized.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: I don't make anything off of it, so I just
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: like kind of feed off of people watching it and
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: being like, hey, this was great. Unfortunately I relate and
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: it made me feel better, you know, like.
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  Speaker 2: What has been.
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  Speaker 3: I guess what's the most common comment that you're getting.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: The most common comment that I'm getting is like people
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: being like, this is real like dark humor, which also,
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: like I think touches me in a way, I guess,
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: just because I'm like, I loved like rosebud Baker.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys are familiar with.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: Her work at all, but she had a special on
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: YouTube called Whiskey Fist when I first started, and it
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: was kind of about like her abusive acts that would
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: drink and you know, try and hit her but could
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: never land.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: A punch because he had whiskey Fists or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so this is but it's dark humor, but dark.
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: Humor, yeah, and so be able.
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  Speaker 4: Like my goal was, I guess, to talk about something
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: horrible in a funny way and make other people laugh
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: about it.
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: So it's the biggest badge of honor.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel I'm getting as people be like, oh,
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: this is actual dark comedy. It's not just like shocking
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: and like offensive, you know, right.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: And so for people at home who don't who maybe
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet, you want to just give like
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: a quick log line of what the special actually is.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Someone focuses on.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: So it's basic It's a special called Untouchable. It's about
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: getting molested. Trigger warning if you're watching, but it is
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: essentially like twenty five minutes of just set up punchline
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: about it's like, you know, every everything I could think of,
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: I guess for like what had gone on without being
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: like graphic or offensive, you know, but even taught like
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: making fun of like his name being you know, going
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: by doctor Larry instead of doctor Lawrence.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: Or you know whatever it is.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: But I've like I cover everything from like how stupid
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: this guy was, to like how stupid other people can be,
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: kind of like towards sexual assault survivors. Like I have
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: a section in the special where I'm talking about like
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: kind of stupid questions and I've been asked before. One
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: of the jokes in the special is about how Larry
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: Nassa got stabbed in prison, and everyone in my family,
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: like all my friends and family sent me a like
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: screenshot of the article and they were like, hey, check
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: it out.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: It's your guy.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: And then I'm like, oh, this is really triggering, but
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: I'm glad that it's bringing everyone together. Yes, exactly, But
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: it's so funny because anytime there's any sort of Larry
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: Nassar News.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: Even after the special came out, people will still send
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: it to me and be like, hey, did you look
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: at this?
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, dude, you know, I wonder.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: I wonder what people are hoping your reaction. What are
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: they anticipating Your reaction will be.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Like, I'm yeah, I was stabbed. I'm here, yes exactly.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: I don't think that that's what they think.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: They think that I'm going to like throw a party
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: or something because my abuser was hurt and I'm and
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: I guess it bothers me just a little bit because
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: I just am like, I don't know, this guy is horrible,
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: but I don't want anyone to die.
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: I don't know, you know what I mean. Like that's
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: not really like my moral compass, I guess you know.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: What I mean.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Sometimes people said in that guest and they say we
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: do want them to die. That is actually really interesting.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I don't know.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: There's this whole I have the whole stupid like Christian
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: forgiveness thing inside of me still.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, It's not stupid, but it's
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: it's your moral code and that's how you live your life,
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: and you're allowed to think and nobody is allowed to here.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: I am telling you, but nobody is allowed to tell
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: you or anybody how you should be feeling about a
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: certain thing. Right, So, like, if the idea of your
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: a Viezer getting stabbed in prison does not bring you joy,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: that's okay. Like, yeah, if it did bring you joy,
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: that would also be okay. Ye are entitled to feel
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: how you feel about the.
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: Thing, thank you.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: I do. I agree with that too, because it's also
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: a thing where it's like, I mean, when you got stabbed,
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: I wasn't sad, you know what I mean. It was like, no,
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: my poor buddy. Yeah, I was just kind of like, oh,
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: I hope he lives to be stabbed again. I guess,
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: like I don't know, you know, I.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Wonder if people are just like this person was such
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: a heinous monster that they would like him to suffer
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: as much as possible, so they're like happy about it
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: on your behalf, if that makes sense.
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: No, it does make sense. I'm never like offended, you know,
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: when someone sends me a thing, but it is just
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: a thing. We're like, God, God, it's.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Urney with the trial. Everything that happened in court.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: Okay, So the trial is actually like it's like slightly
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: traumatic for me, but not in the way of like, oh,
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: I don't want to like relive it, more in the
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: sense of I have.
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: Like regrets about the trial a little bit.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: I at the time was working like part time at
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: a pet grooming place in my small town. You know,
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: just a lady that like cuts dog hair. But I
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: was like the groomer's assistant, just giving dogs baths and
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: expressing anal glands and all the fun stuff. And but
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: she was like I don't know if it was just
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: because she had cancer at the time or what the
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: deal was, but she was just like a very crotchety
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: woman for a moment, you know what I mean, where
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: she was just very angry, and she would like come
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: in in the morning. I remember I was going to
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: ask for the time off to read my own victim
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: impact statement in court essentially, and like that morning I
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: like came in.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: I was like, Hey, what's your name? How are you
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: this morning?
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: And she was like, oh, I'm fine. Tired of watching
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: the news, you know, I turn on the news this morning.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: Every time I turn on the news, it's just all
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: these little girls getting on the stand and seeing who
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: can cry the hardest for the most money, and I
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, I'm just gonna let some.
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: Court lady read that shit.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: Like I can't.
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: I can't ask you.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: I can't be like, hey, I need could I have
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Tuesday off? I'd like to go cry in the stand
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: for money, like you know. So I didn't. I was
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: I had like a really great lawyer who was a
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: family friend, you know. He just took care of everything
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: for me. And some lady from the court read my
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: victim impac state. But that was kind of the first
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: time I really felt like a comic because she was
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: reading it and I was like, well, and you're butchering it.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: And I haven't even done comedy yet, but like the
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: victim impact statement, I felt like it was my first
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: ever like roast battle sort of thing, you know of
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: just like like my lawyer was like, hey, so I
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: don't know, we're allowed to stay on your show. But
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: I'm just like but he's just like, hey, you can't
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: like say boner and like next game is honest, you
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: can't say that in the court of law, so you
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: need to like find some new words for this thing,
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: you know. And so I made a court appropriate and
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: sent it in and then some lady read it, but.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: It was still supposed to be like kind of chat
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: you couldn't ask. Yeah, now you can ask chat ChiPT
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: give me another word for boner.
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. Erection is what I went with.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, I guess you got last chat for Yeah, that's
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: really my that's.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: My I don't know everyone else feels, but I feel
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: like erection is scarier than boner.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Get in the comments. I want you to let us know.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Do you prefer to say in court erection or boner?
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: And I want to know Press one for erection, press
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: two for bon right into c J. We had a
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: gay porn star on the show.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: CJ was trying to research. I met him at a party,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: so I didn't know his like legal name. I only
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: knew his Google is when you google him, it's it's
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: right there.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what he's known for. And so just you know,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: at a party, CJ, this guy's coming on the show.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: I didn't warn him. Yeah, and this porn man just trying.
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: To do his job.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: Anyway, investigating a gay porn star with your pregnant wife
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: is amazing.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, so that was your trial experience. You watched the trial.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: What was sort of the It was a little weird.
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: It was hard.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: I feel like I watched just specifically my part on YouTube.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: I had to work the day of it, obviously because
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: I didn't ask for it off, so I didn't watch
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: it like on the news or anything. But my lawyer
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: did send me the like live stream that they had
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: posted with like my time stamp or whatever, so I
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: was able to watch it. And then I had a
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: couple other friends that were there to read theirs in person,
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: so I watched theirs too.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: But yeah, that was.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Essentially my trial experience. And so I guess I felt
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: a little like, I mean, I'm just regretful that I
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: didn't ask for it. Often read it myself, and you
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, like stand you know what I
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: mean in front of him and say it. But I mean,
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: I can't do anything now other than I guess put
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: out a comedy special.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think what you're doing now is I mean,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: not better or worse, but like it's this is how
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: you're handling it right. And also and I think that
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: this because it's on YouTube, will have a greater reach.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm hoping, you know what I think partially
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: why we just like me and Sam Talent, decided not
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: to monetize it.
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: We just want as many views as possible.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: And you know, because I mean, and I know it's
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: not for everybody, you know what I mean, what I've
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: made isn't for everybody. It's not going to be for
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: every survivor. Everyone handles everything differently. But I hope that
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: it helps people.
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: My favorite comment I ever got is someone being like, hey,
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: I had a similar experience with my volleyball coach when
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: I was thirteen.
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: This is really great.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: I hope I find something that like pulls me out
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: from underneath it, the way you find something, you know.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: And I just like kind of like I don't know
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: if I was po messing or what, but I just
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: like broke down and cried because it's sad, you know
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: what I mean. I really do feel lucky that I
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: have something, an outlet and you know what I mean,
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: something to get it out of me, because so many
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: people just they sit silencely with it.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: And well, I was going to ask you about like
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: the healing journey, right, because like so many people go
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: through what you went through. Not everyone get there's not
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: always a high profile trial. There's not only like you're
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: hilarious beyond just that subject matter of your set, right,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: like you are the stand up comic like on all subjects, right, not.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Just yes, yeah, you're assault absolutely.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: So it's sort of like, what has your healing journey been, Like,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: what has your career been like with this, you know,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: with you right, and how have you been sort of
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: navigating that.
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: I feel like it's obviously I'm not healed.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: I don't think you know, I'm knowing that makes a
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: thirty minute com special wile getting loss it is fully okay.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: But I guess the probably it's been a lot of therapy.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: I started going to therapy for the first time in
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: my life after the news broke. I also wasn't like,
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: it's not like I got abused under the guys of
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: medical treatment at thirteen and then sat. I mean, I
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: guess I did say with it subconsciously, but I had
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: friends that were seeing him, right. I was referred, you know,
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: to his office, and it's kind of a thing where
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: it's like you I went and told my friend what happened,
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: and she was like, oh, for sure, like you know,
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: that's what happens with me. Too, don't worry about it,
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: like he's a doctor whatever. And then you also have
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: like sort of this illusion of he's the best because
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: he was. He was the Olympic team doctor, and you know, yeah,
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: you don't have question especially back then, you know what
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, this kind of I guess Jerry Sandusky had
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: broke maybe by that point, but no one really you know,
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: questioned their doctor like that the way that they do now.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: And so for me, I basically I feel like I
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: found out with everybody else. I there saw just an article.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: I think my mom even maybe had sent it to me,
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: and I was like, oh my god, that's what happened
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: to me. And my alm was like immediately called me
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: and she's like, what are.
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: You talking about?
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: You know you're folks sitting No, they didn't know.
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: I didn't say anything about it.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I never been like you didn't totally understand.
• 48:26
  Speaker 7: No, I was what it was.
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: I think I was better off before I found out.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: Frankly, I was just like, that's what happened at the doctor,
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like it's just the doctor
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: or whatever.
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: It was clinical until it was not.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: You know. That's how it like felt in my mind.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: And so I feel like I struggled, But looking back
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: on it, it's I mean, I was like, don't drink,
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: like drinking and smoking weed and sneaking out and doing
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: acid at school and like, so it was obviously affecting me,
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: and I just didn't like, didn't really.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Realize what it was segment before you got here hindsight
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: is twenty twenty.
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, everything absolutely, and so I'm like, oh, I was
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: totally doing that because of that for sure. But I
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: felt like nineteen is kind of where it started. Like
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: it hit me like a ton of break, Like finding
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: out I got molested is how it felt, you know,
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: Like I was like, oh, is that help them? Is that?
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: How like that?
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: I didn't know, you know, like how old you were
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: when the news came out? You were nineteen?
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: Yes, it was nineteen.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: I think I was like freshly nineteen when the news
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: came out, And yeah, so then I just started dealing
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: with it from there, and going through the court process
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: was like the one of the first times I had
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: gone to therapy at all, because there's like a whole
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: damages portion where it's kind of like how many days
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: of work did you miss because you were depressed about this?
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: Or you know.
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: So then it was a weird thing where I kind
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: of felt like therapy. It felt more like we were
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: putting a price tag on what was wrong with me.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: And it was less therapeutic and way more just like, Okay,
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: we got to figure this out, so we can get
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: this all in here, and like I can just say, yeah,
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: like definitively you are fucked up, okay.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Right, right, okay.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't really like healing therapeutic. No, it was
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: definitely like court mandata, right.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: And it was it sounds very much like a way
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: of how do we put a dollar amount?
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: And it sucks, but you have to you know, no,
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: And it's just it's so awful that that's the way
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: that it is.
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: But that's the way that it is.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: So that sort of this idea though of like thing
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: A happened, so she gets this amount of money, had
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: BC and D happened, she would get this other money
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: or had it happened.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: That is it. It is crazy, and that is kind
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: of exactly how it is. And after the fact, I
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: don't know about other girls, I don't know about anyone
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: else's case, but I just know that I'm not supposed
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: to say, because if they're still settling things, they could
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: use it as leverage by being like, oh, Lena Bamfield
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: was molested X amount of times, okay, and she received
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: X amount of money, but my client was molested toye
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: set amount. She's receiving less, you know, And so it's
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: this whole it's very weird thing that I think about
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: that is reprehensible.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I just think, you know, Michael and
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: I talk about this a lot, just sort of the
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: way that we treat women, the way that we don't
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: believe girls, the way that it sort of comes down
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: to dollars and cents, and you know, people have to say, well,
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: you know, the children are the future, like super shit
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: like that, but then this is how we're behaving.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also like how much we see like we
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: were just the Epstein Files comes up a lot in
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: this studio. How much society hates women, women he women,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: men hate women, how much society hates women. How many
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: times about the gay club and people are like, why
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: is there a woman here? And I'm like, I thought
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: there was a space for everybody. Why are you being
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: such a bit.
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: About It's crazy it is crazy.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Why do we have to be so to women?
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: And then it reminds you of because around the same
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: time that this all happened to me too, movement was
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: what twenty sixteen, and I think that's right around was
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: I nineteen and twenty sixteen, It's right around the same time.
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: But there was this whole video going around about like
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: how much is a little girl worthy? You know, and like.
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: And I just think and back to like kind of
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: what you guys are saying just about like hating women.
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: This joke didn't really make it into the special. I
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: guess it's not really because it wasn't really a joke.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: It was just more of a statement, you know, because
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: people are kind of like always think I'm like rich
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: or whatever, because like they always want to know, like
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: how much money I got for getting lost in And
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: I'm like, how much do you think that the American
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: justice system values women and children? You know what I mean?
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: Like that's crazy.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: I think they'd make it into the special?
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: Did it? Okay?
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: That the second part I think is where I was
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: like there was a full there was a lady there
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: like arguing against my lawyer to make sure that I
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: didn't get too much money, you know, like, and it's
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's it has to be someone's job. It's
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: not her fault specifically, you know what I mean. Like,
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: but it just is crazy that that's where it's at, right.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: Like that she had a choice.
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, this is my launching patch.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: You always have a choice. Yeah, as Meryl says, we can.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: Cut this out if you don't want to answer the question, right.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: I I was talking to CJ. And I was wondering
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: about this when I knew that you were coming. Do
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: you remember when you met him?
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sorry. And do you remember what your first impression.
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: Of him was? Of him was? I remember it. I
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: was thirteen when I first met him, and it was.
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: And I remember I can almost like remember it's like
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: a weird distant memory where I'm like I can see
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: the building in my head and I can like count
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: the windows and tell you, like which corner one, like
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: two down, all the way over it was, and I
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: can remember like seeing like the trim in the room
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: and like talking to him. All I remember is he
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: made my mom laugh a lot, Like he was just
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: very charming and charismatic.
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: Which you have to be if you're going to be
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: a predator.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: You know, so that people think that you're saying yes, yes,
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: And I remember a nice guy.
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: There's a nice guy, and I remember him calling me
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: a butt head was a big thing that I remember
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: because I was like, oh, my neck is really hurting.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: And I was like expecting, especially at this time when
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: I'm running around doing like physical therapy. I thought physical
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: therapy was going to be someone like giving me a
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: massage and making.
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: Me feel better. But it's like actually hard work that
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: makes your body hurt.
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: And so I was like coming from that and I'm like,
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: my neck hurts and he's like, oh, okay, put on
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: these paper shorts and change into this gown. Essentially, but
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: I remember he told me and my mom that I
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: was a butt head. He did not say that he
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: was going to enter my body in any way, you
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: know what I mean. But essentially it was just like, oh,
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: the problems up by your head, but we're going to
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: fix it down at your butt. Essentially, I was like, oh,
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: maybe I'm a butt head and that's why my you know,
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: neck hurts as well, like you know what I mean,
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: just still woman being like okay, that sounds good, Like
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like sounds plausible. I don't know,
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: you know, why would she know? But I think the
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: first time I met him, I remember him calling me
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: a butt heead and being in just being in that
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: corner office, and he recommended, Uh, I was wanting to
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: go into all star cheerleading and I wanted to go
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: to a Michigan Extreme It's just a gym that was
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: one of the gyms in Michigan, And he was like,
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: why would you go there when you could go here
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: to like Capital City cheer And he pulled up their
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: website on Facebook, showed me and my mom like they're
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: like facility and stuff.
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: And I ended up cheerleading at that gym.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: For like four or five years because of that suggestion essentially,
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: which I mean it was some of the best four
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: or five years of my life, you know, But but yeah,
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: that's what I remember from first meeting him is he
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: recommended my cheerleading gym and like my lifelong friends that
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: I now have, which is super weird.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Because I you know, I think when we imagine what
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: a sexual predator looks like, you put an image in
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: your head, right, like it's like this creepy yeah, sort
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: of like weird.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Like from like the Norton Security app like or you know, and.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: We're all guilty of this.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you you'll see the image of somebody like I
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: would have known it in a second. Look at his face,
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: look at those beady eyes.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, like.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: Like he's giving off. But I think, but what we
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: have since learned, right, is that sure, it could be
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: the creepy person who's weird in the corner, but it
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: could also it's your priest, it's your rabbits, you know,
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: someone you know who when you find out, oh my god,
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: I can't believe that it's so and so it seems
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: like such a good guy.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: It's it's it's crazy. And I mean that was the
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: general consensus of Larry Nasa before the news like broke,
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: you know, was that this was a good guy and
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: you could take your kids home. I mean, he was
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: involved in other he was involved in other things pretty
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: positive allegedly. I'm pretty positive that he was involved in
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: like the whole public schools like nursing program, Like not
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: nursing program, but sort of like their athletic doctor. Does
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: that makes any sense for high school in the area.
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: He had an office at Michigan State University Sports athletic
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: you know thing. So he just had like a big
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: we had his fingers spread, you know what I mean.
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: Web was wide right, this is not your job to
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: educate me on this.
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: But let me ask you, do you know if he
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: did this to other children in the other parts of
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: his work or was it did he focus solely on
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: the gymnast?
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: I think that he he was He just was an opportunist, Okay.
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: I have said since the beginning, like one of the
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: reasons I decided all so to like file because at first,
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: you know, it was my friend had seen him so
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: much more than me. Her mom would like drop her
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: off at his house to like get like her back
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: adjusted in his basement and shit, and I just was like, oh,
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: I'm not a basement case. My mom took me like
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: I legitimately in the beginning was like, oh, what only
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: happened to me like three or four times, you know,
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: like maybe I don't you know, like deserve to like
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: say anything about it, which is obviously bullshit.
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: Hindsight is twenty twenty eight, you know.
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: But at first I was like a little bit hesitant
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: because I just, like, I guess and I have learned
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: now this is like a common feeling amongst survivors of
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: a lot of things, which like I didn't feel like
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: I had it bad enough, you know.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: I think it becomes almost like the oppression Olympics, right,
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: like who who is worse off? Well, I'm not like
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: this person. Yeah, so I should feel lucky.
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: I should feel lucky and I should feel good.
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: Yes, exactly exactly, and but also through because like I've
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: I've had other things happen and this was the only
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: one where you know, like four or five hundred people
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: are behind me being like and yes it did, you know,
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: like me to us.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Too whatever, you know, there's like a dud exactly.
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: So even though it was super hard, it was the
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: easiest sexual assault I've ever had to report, like because
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: of that backing, you.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: Know, behind you.
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, is there like a community
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: of support now amongst survivors?
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Like are do you keep it?
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: Sure? There is? I'm not a part of it. I
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: feel I don't know.
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: I again, I just I feel it like some people
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: start organizations and nonprofits and like that's fucking great, and
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: like it's just like you know what I mean, Like
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: I can't like sit in that space of you know
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: what I mean, like it just it feels clinical itself,
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: being at a nonprofit or whatever.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: It is, Like I'm just like, but you know, so,
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, that doesn't have to be your space.
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: The stage is a exactly and so I'm like, I'm
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: so I can do this and that's something different and.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Then hopefully still in the nonprofit space, can't do what
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: you do. Yeah.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: When going into making the special, one of the big
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: things for me is that I was like, well, I
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: anticipated doing decently well just because Sam Talent, amazing comedian
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: and headliner that I go on the road with. He
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: was like already going to put it out on his
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: YouTube and it's got like thirty five thousand subscribers or something,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: so I knew that people were going to see it
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: when I put it out like on his.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: Page.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: So I really like kind of was like, oh, well,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: people might see it and I might get something like
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: there might be some momentum from it, you know, I
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: might get like bookings and things.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: That I really want to do.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: And I don't want to run around doing this material
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: the whole time and it's only like thirty minutes. Anyways,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to write another thirty minutes so that
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: I have an hour, Like what if someone wants me to.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: Tour damn it?
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: And I don't know, so the like Larry Nuts or
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Survivor to work. Yeah, untouchable, true, sure other material about focus.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: On my thirty minutes now is like pretty much exclusively
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: like about my family and growing.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: Up and why what happened growing up?
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: Nothing? Well I got molested, but I'm just kidding.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: But uh, my dad, that was also such a super.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: But this is you know, I don't know if you listen,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: but like that's the kind of thing where I get
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: uncomfortable and I faked me.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: But I put it out there and now I can't
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: do it and now I need I need another thing.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: But wait, what about your time?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: My dad grew medical marijuana like legally in our home.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: Love that I was going to say, all, yeah, no, no,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: it was like fully like Lewis, like Michigan I think
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: legalized it in two thousand and eight.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: So we were one of the first dates.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: I think we were maybe the first date after California
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: to legalize marijuana or not recreational medical marijuana. And so
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: my like my dad did that, and so I was
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: kind of like a stinky kid.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: Like I smelled like weed and that was hard.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: So I feel like I have I've been working on
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: jokes about that. He doesn't love it, but it's I mean,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: but it's something.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: It was legal and everything else that's happening in your life,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: it'd happened.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: No exactly and so like, but it was just that
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: was a little bit difficult. I just grew up in
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: a very small rural town. Me and my brother were
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: latchkey kids for a long time. So I have a
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: lot of jokes about like how I would be the
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: worst in a Stanford prison experiment because like of the
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: things I did to my brother.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: I have.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: I had two dogs for a long time and then
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: one of them she just kicked it in December. So
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: I've been working on a lot of dead dogs stuff.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: It's all pretty dark.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: It will continue to be dark, I think, but I
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: don't know so I but it was important to me
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: that I had.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: An hour before I recorded the special that wasn't about
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: that at all, so that I could prove to myself
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: and others.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: What's your relationship advice? You said you've been throwing a
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: lot of break tips.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: Oh God, don't do them. No, I keep getting cheated on,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: And would you just steal from me or something more exciting,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: Like, how else please?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: I had a friend she went out with the doctor
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: and stole his prescription pad.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: Oh that's kind of fucking slick.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: I like that.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: It was back in the day. I don't even think
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: that pymore.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: It was a while ago.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: They don't have pads anymore.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: It's electronic.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: It's all like they phone it in lame. Yeah, okay,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: anything else we missed CJ anyone else before? We like
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: button out?
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 6: How did you guy get into farming medical marijuana? Like like, yeah,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 6: I don't know looking to get into it. He just
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 6: wants to know for research purposes.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: I don't really know exactly what happened. I know that
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: our next door neighbor I knew that he must have
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: been thinking about it for a long time. And our
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: next we had a the weirdest situation. We had a
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: rental house in the country as our neighbor. So every
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: year we'd get like a new family that.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: Dad love talking to the next door Oh yeah, my.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: Dad was like, don't come over here.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: It's like we're going to live in the middle of nowhere.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: I want there to be a rental next door. Who
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: I don't talk.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: It was a family for the longest time, and then
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: they got a divorce and the dad moved to Florida
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: and then kept the house and rented it out.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: It's still to this day, but the family the seasonal rental.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: No like a like a just people just live there. Yeah.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's like a regular ship house, you know,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: like next to my parents ranch style home, you know which,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: And also I don't know if you guys do you
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: guys know what a ranch style home. It's okay, cool
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: make it's like a trailer with a roof and in
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: a basement. But uh but anyways, they started one of
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: the families that lived there for the longest time. I'm
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: actually the godmother of her child that she had when
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: she was a teenager.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: Shout out.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: But they moved in and we just started smelling it.
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  Speaker 5: You just started smelling it. And the story from my
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  Speaker 5: mom is.
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  Speaker 4: That they were standing like looking out the kitchen window
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  Speaker 4: and my dad was just like fucking arms crossed looking
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  Speaker 4: at the neighbor's house. And some of my dad's friends
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  Speaker 4: had also started to grow eat indoors and my mom
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  Speaker 4: was like, just do it, about it, just do it,
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  Speaker 4: and so he went out and got his license and
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  Speaker 4: then we weren't allowed in the basement anymore.
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  Speaker 5: So I thought we got a tanning bed.
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  Speaker 1: But all right, so thank you for joining us. Where
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  Speaker 5: I'm not on tour currently, but if you guys follow me,
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  Speaker 1: And I've been drunk at that art Choke have you.
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  Speaker 1: It's a good place to be to start to choke
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  Speaker 5: Eat dude, it is pretty it's pretty heavy.
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  Speaker 4: Bring a lactate to my show, but I do that
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  Speaker 4: every single Tuesday. Me and my friend Abby do live
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  Speaker 4: We'll be back next week. Watch my special on YouTube.
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  Speaker 4: It's called Untouchable and my Instagram is at Atlanta Bamfield.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you so much, thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Welcome back to brief Recess. This
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  Speaker 1: is till from the DMS, where we answer honestly just
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  Speaker 1: Swedish Latina's messages because.
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  Speaker 2: She's right and Tina, do you want to be on?
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  Speaker 2: Can we just have you on? He's got the best comments?
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  Speaker 3: Well, friends, what do I always say? While Michael is
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  Speaker 3: a lawyer, he's not your lawyer, So get your Sweetishanina. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: wall I'm gonna read this because she's so funny. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: stop right there. I was born with one hand and
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  Speaker 3: I always getty percent off of manicures.
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  Speaker 2: Like I don't even need to ask Sergio, you messy bitch,
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  Speaker 2: what do you really slash?
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  Speaker 1: She's been writing in every week with one hand.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. Oh my god, I think of that.
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  Speaker 2: That's not what I meant. No, that's not what I meant.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to be call me a wh hates Boston.
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  Speaker 2: That's not what this week anyway, I did. I did
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  Speaker 2: because of the Pi eater thing.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Taylor Swift wedding guy clash disabled Danny wrote
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  Speaker 1: in a wedding venue that is another.
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  Speaker 3: One who's always in the comments. Hey, disabled Danny and
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  Speaker 3: sweetest carrying the show disabled.
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  Speaker 1: A wedding venue that is secretly operated by the mob
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  Speaker 1: is the most NYC thing I've ever heard.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I'm convinced that it was. You know what,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to know neither.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, I'm looking at I've got enough people on me. Uh, Melissa,
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  Speaker 1: please hear the green seasoning recipe.
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  Speaker 2: I promise next episode I will. Oh someone wants that
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  Speaker 2: I want, I do too. I'll make you some. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you also said you would. Okay, God, some of us
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  Speaker 2: are busy. I can't.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you're right, you're right. It's not your responsibility to
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  Speaker 1: educate the white man on how to.
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  Speaker 2: Wash chicken. To wash my chicken, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't answered any anyone's legal questions
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  Speaker 1: lately because we've been talking about a one armed woman
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  Speaker 1: getting a manicure for three episodes.
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  Speaker 2: So let's see, is there any question? Are there any questions?
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  Speaker 2: Just everyone writing about the hell it was like? And
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  Speaker 2: people want me to have a cocktail every podcast. I
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  Speaker 2: will not.
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  Speaker 3: My husband had to pick me up guys okay, and
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  Speaker 3: looked very worried for me, looks so concerned. He was like,
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  Speaker 3: are you sure.
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  Speaker 2: AND's coming to get you. I'm like, yeah, he's coming,
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  Speaker 2: Are you sure?
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  Speaker 7: Yes, it's left your eyes. And then he's like walking
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  Speaker 7: away slow and he's like, get home safe. Melissa, Okay,
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  Speaker 7: Melissa and Michael. So many things I want to say.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know who wrote this in we don't have
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  Speaker 7: a name, but first time, Michael, screw you for hating
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  Speaker 7: Colorado people. I don't hate Colorado people.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, this is Jenny. This is Jenny.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Jenny, about the Denver Airport, you said that no
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  Speaker 1: one goes to Denver, but yeah, it's actually one of
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  Speaker 1: the busiest airports in the world.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Have you read all the weird conspiracy stuff around the
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  Speaker 1: Denver Airport. CJ was telling me about this. Okay, next
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  Speaker 1: episode when we start, I'm going to talk about we'll
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  Speaker 1: do I want to research all the Denver Airport conspiracy
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  Speaker 1: theories because people are saying it's run by the Illuminati,
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  Speaker 1: and honestly that it doesn't make sense why the shuttle
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  Speaker 1: does that, so it might actually be the Illuminati. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna put on my tinfoil hat for that one,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm going to get I'm going to get this
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  Speaker 1: is a deep dive that I have to do with
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  Speaker 1: three in the morning after a gummy. So I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to do the research. I do the hard work so
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to, uh, and I'm going to get
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  Speaker 1: back to you on the Denver airport.
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  Speaker 2: Please do We're rivetted. There is a DM question.
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay, so Kate Mulligan says, Hi, friends who don't
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  Speaker 3: know me, but I love everything about the boof that
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  Speaker 3: you thanks, Kate. Do you have any information about Habeast documents?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Like HABEAS? Okay, So she just.
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  Speaker 3: Signed up to volunteer in so Cal hoping it's legit
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  Speaker 3: because it gives me tangible.
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  Speaker 2: To do and to be of service.
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  Speaker 1: So I think which is probably asking about is HABEAS
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  Speaker 1: corpus claims in federal cores. So basically what's happening right
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  Speaker 1: now is because the bond rules that the Trump administration
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  Speaker 1: and ICE arem hoosing on immigrants in America are so
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  Speaker 1: strict that what's happening is many attorneys are taking the
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  Speaker 1: case from Immigration court and filing a separate hearing for
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  Speaker 1: a habeas petition saying that this person is being un
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  Speaker 1: wrongfully detained for extended periods of time and therefore should
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  Speaker 1: be granted a habeas petition because they're like basic human
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  Speaker 1: rights are being denied and Immigration court sorry, and so
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  Speaker 1: they get that decision from the federal court. That's the
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  Speaker 1: circuit of wherever you are. This person's at California, and
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  Speaker 1: then you would take that decision back to immigration court
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  Speaker 1: and be like, look, the federal circuit is granting relief,
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  Speaker 1: you need to grant them bond because the bond rules.
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  Speaker 2: Are so strict. Okay, Ken, you explain what Habe's corpus is.
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  Speaker 1: So a Habe's petition is just like as a formal
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  Speaker 1: way to make people who are jailing, you produce the
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  Speaker 1: prisoner and say why they're holding them. Okay, So it's
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  Speaker 1: like it's a mechanism that way.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's a form of accountability. But you can volunteer.
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  Speaker 1: So this is another cool way that volunteers and people
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  Speaker 1: who work at nonprofits can help people who are detained.
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  Speaker 1: Because a lot of the times when I go to
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  Speaker 1: court for a bond hearing, they're like, we won't even
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  Speaker 1: hear it because of these rules, I don't even get
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  Speaker 1: a chance to litigate it sometimes. Okay, so then people
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: like Kate who wrote in are working for a nonprofit,
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  Speaker 1: then they go to.
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  Speaker 2: A different court with it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so we're trying to like glue it together sort
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  Speaker 1: of is how that's working anyway. Thank you for watching
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  Speaker 1: I'm Melissa albranch I'll see you in court, not me.
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