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Jules Neale's Tell All · Outspoken the Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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Speaker 1: Amy Torber. And I'm Kate Torber. And coming up on
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Speaker 1: today's show, Sky Wheatley's dramatic core appearance and the nostalgic
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Speaker 1: news blowing up our group chat. But first, Jules Neal
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Speaker 1: has broken her silence today. opening up for the first
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Speaker 1: time about her marriage breakdown to Brisbane Lions player Lockie Neal.
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Speaker 1: In the bombshell interview, Jules claimed Lockie had been unfaithful
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Speaker 1: with at least two other women before his alleged affair
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Speaker 1: with her best friend Tess Crosley. Amy, before we get
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Speaker 1: into the revelations, we need to talk about Jules' decision
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Speaker 1: to drop this news on an Influencers podcast. Yeah, I'm
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Speaker 1: sure there are a lot of disappointed journalists out there.
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Speaker 1: So she spoke with Adele Petropoulos, who has just launched
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Speaker 1: the Pretty Sure podcast. And as we said, Adele isn't
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Speaker 1: a journalist. She is a Melbourne-based makeup artist who's made
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Speaker 1: a name for herself on TikTok. So she's got over
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Speaker 1: 244,000 followers. As I said, this podcast is fresh. It
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Speaker 1: only began in July. So this is a massive get
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Speaker 1: for her. Do you think Jules felt comfortable talking to Adele?
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Speaker 1: Because Adele has been through something similar very recently. She
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Speaker 1: had a very public breakup with her fiance around this
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Speaker 1: time last year. She was actually in Europe when she
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Speaker 1: decided to leave her partner. She flew home alone. It
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Speaker 1: was quite iconic because she had actually already planned out
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Speaker 1: her wedding. She'd spent all this money on it and
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Speaker 1: she started giving away wedding items to her followers. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense. And from listening to
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Speaker 1: the podcast, it seems like they've struck up a bit
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Speaker 1: of a friendship over some trauma bonding. Yeah. Interestingly, they're
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Speaker 1: also signed to the same management company, One Day Dream.
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Speaker 1: So Adele's podcast is also a One Day Dream production
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Speaker 1: and So it seems like this is how the opportunity
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Speaker 1: came about, surely. I wonder how Adele feels about her
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Speaker 1: podcast being all over the mainstream media because for me
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Speaker 1: it seemed quite funny seeing shots of the podcast set
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Speaker 1: being splashed on Seven and Nine because the podcast itself
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Speaker 1: is quite a fun, chatty show. Well, Jules is actually
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Speaker 1: the first person Adele has interviewed thus far on her
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Speaker 1: podcast because, as you said, it's in its infancy now.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this story could have been sold for a
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Speaker 1: lot of money. In saying that, it also comes with
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Speaker 1: a lot of criticism and it sways the way the
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Speaker 1: public perceives you. So I think she's done it quite perfectly.
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Speaker 1: She's waited to share her story and also done it
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Speaker 1: on her own terms. And in doing so, she's got
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Speaker 1: a lot of public support behind her. You mentioned the
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Speaker 1: timing of this podcast. I mean, comes just days after
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Speaker 1: Lockie Neal was seen kissing his new girlfriend, Emma Field,
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Speaker 1: in the Brisbane change rooms. It also comes out as
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Speaker 1: Lockie's Club Brisbane is set to kick off their finals campaign.
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Speaker 1: I can imagine the coach wouldn't be too happy about this.
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Speaker 1: It also comes out after all the drama we've seen
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Speaker 1: with the Sydney Swans. And to make matters worse for Lockie,
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Speaker 1: his ex Tess Crosley, she is set to appear in
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Speaker 1: a podcast interview with the Daily Mail. We're yet to
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Speaker 1: hear this, but I am hanging for this conversation.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I wonder how Lockie is feeling and his new girlfriend,
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Speaker 1: because I saw some paparazzi photos of her doing laps
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Speaker 1: around the tan in Melbourne. And, you know, I love
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Speaker 1: that the caption is always like, ah, beaming after her
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Speaker 1: photo kissing Lockie Neal. It's like she's literally on a
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Speaker 1: walk and she's being followed by paparazzi. Like she looks uncomfortable.
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Speaker 1: It's actually disgusting the tone that the media use when
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Speaker 1: discussing the wives and girlfriends of players. And Jules Neal
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Speaker 1: actually touched on this and she said what a lot
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Speaker 1: of people seem to forget is the wives and girlfriends,
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Speaker 1: a lot of them are physios, they're doctors, they're mothers,
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Speaker 1: they're lawyers. And- people just label them as you're a
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Speaker 1: wag and it just diminishes everything that they do. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I got the vibe Jules Neill doesn't feel particularly comfortable
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Speaker 1: around journalists, which is probably a big part of the
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Speaker 1: reason why she chose to talk to Adele Petropoulos. That
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Speaker 1: way she didn't have a journalist sensationalising all of her
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Speaker 1: comments and putting their own spin on it. She could
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Speaker 1: actually tell her story in her own words. And also
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Speaker 1: the format of podcasts now allow people guest to speak
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Speaker 1: for such a long time compared to if she was
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Speaker 1: to sit down for a TV news interview, what? The
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Speaker 1: package would have gone for maximum. two minutes. Yeah. What
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Speaker 1: I really liked about it is I felt like I
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Speaker 1: knew her after listening to it. Like her personality came out.
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Speaker 1: She is such a likable person. And I think that
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Speaker 1: was really good for her because she's got quite a
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Speaker 1: large following on social media. She's built this profile for herself.
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Speaker 1: And I think people get a different impression of you
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Speaker 1: when you're posting like glamorous photos on Instagram. You don't
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Speaker 1: really get to know who the real person is. Now
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Speaker 1: this episode has already had more than a hundred thousand
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Speaker 1: downloads and soared to number one on the podcast charts. Again,
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Speaker 1: what an absolute get for Adele Petropoulos. But I mean,
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Speaker 1: despite the huge success though, Adele has been absolutely copying
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Speaker 1: it in the comment section. So a lot of people
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Speaker 1: were criticizing her saying that she constantly interrupted Jules and
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Speaker 1: talked over her. I mean, I did not notice this
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Speaker 1: at all. Another person said she skimmed over Jules' story
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Speaker 1: and quickly made it about herself. Again, this is so unfair.
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Speaker 1: I mean, This is what happens, though, when you open
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Speaker 1: your podcast up to the masses. Yeah, I mean, those
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Speaker 1: people clearly don't follow Adele on social media. I've got
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Speaker 1: a soft spot for her. I actually think Adele talking
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Speaker 1: about her own situation made Jules feel more comfortable to
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Speaker 1: open up about her own. It literally seemed like two
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Speaker 1: friends chatting about their partners cheating on them. Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: you can't tell me that ahead of time there wouldn't
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Speaker 1: have been a discussion about what Adele can and cannot
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Speaker 1: ask Jules. Like, obviously... I mean, like, for instance, they
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Speaker 1: didn't even reference Lockie Neal's name during the podcast. They
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Speaker 1: just referred to him as her ex, which I think
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Speaker 1: was a really clever thing to do because she's copped
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Speaker 1: a lot of criticism over the fact that that she
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Speaker 1: has kept her last name Neil. Oh my God, they've
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Speaker 1: got children together. It's like when everyone gives Nadia Bartel
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Speaker 1: a hard time for keeping Bartel as her surname. It's like, firstly,
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Speaker 1: it's a part of her personal brand now. That's what
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Speaker 1: people have known her for, for the last 15 years. Secondly,
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Speaker 1: that's her kids' names and that's her connection to her children.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's any of these people's business. How
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Speaker 1: about your husband just doesn't cheat on you? Yeah.
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Speaker 3: You know?
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Speaker 1: Exactly. You know, why are we putting the blame on
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Speaker 1: the women? Oh, they're trying to use their profile. Fuck off. No,
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Speaker 1: she just looks the same name as a child when
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Speaker 1: she goes to pick them up from fucking school. I mean,
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Speaker 1: her kids are one and four. I mean, after having
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Speaker 1: a child, you realize that they are the most important
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Speaker 1: person in your whole life. She's not keeping the name
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Speaker 1: for him. She's keeping it for her children. And she
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Speaker 1: might ultimately decide in a couple of years time to
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Speaker 1: change her name. But that's her own prerogative. Now we
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Speaker 1: need to get into the biggest claims to come from
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Speaker 1: this podcast interview. The one that is being picked up
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Speaker 1: most in the press is Jules' claim that the Tess
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Speaker 1: Crosley saga wasn't an isolated incident. So she alleges that
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Speaker 1: Lockie cheated on her with at least two different women
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Speaker 1: during their marriage. The first incident allegedly took place when
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Speaker 1: their daughter Piper was very young. It made me sick
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Speaker 1: to my stomach hearing how this unfolded because Jules said
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Speaker 1: she received a hey girly DM from another woman saying,
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Speaker 1: accompanied by receipts. Let's take a listen to more of
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Speaker 1: what she said.
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Speaker 2: The worst day of my life.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Didn't leave bed for four days. I fully believe it.
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Speaker 2: Before that would have bet my life that he would
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Speaker 2: have never done that to me ever. And then I was,
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Speaker 2: you know, I was reassured that that was a one-off thing.
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Speaker 2: It would never happen again.
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Speaker 1: Biggest mistake of his life. Yada, yada, yada.
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Speaker 2: We already had my daughter together. So I decided to
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Speaker 2: stay and try to work on it. And I just
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Speaker 2: felt like after that, I was like, people can make mistakes.
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Speaker 2: And if it was a one-off mistake, I don't want
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Speaker 2: to break up our family because of it. Got too
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Speaker 2: much at stake here for her.
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Speaker 1: One thing that stood out to me was it seems
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Speaker 1: like Jules was keen to let listeners know that that
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Speaker 1: she had tried to make her marriage work and that,
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Speaker 1: you know, it was the last straw when she actually
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Speaker 1: left her marriage at the start of the year. It's
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Speaker 1: not like she just, quote, gave up on things immediately.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it also helped paint the picture of what
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Speaker 1: a dirty dog Lockie Neal is, really. She went on
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Speaker 1: to say that since their separation, more stories have come
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Speaker 1: out of the woodwork and she wishes she could have
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Speaker 1: had that information a few years ago. One of the
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Speaker 1: most interesting parts of this interview is was when Jules
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Speaker 1: went into how she actually found out about the cheating.
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Speaker 1: So there was a longstanding rumour that one of the
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Speaker 1: Brisbane Lions partners caught Lockie and Tess Canoodling in a car,
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Speaker 1: and Jules confirmed that she did in fact find out
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Speaker 1: about the alleged affair by the partner of another Brisbane player.
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Speaker 1: So the partner was a close friend of hers who
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Speaker 1: was tipped off by another partner at the club. Jules
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Speaker 1: described it as the worst feeling in the world and
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Speaker 1: said instantly she began questioning whether everyone at the club knew.
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Speaker 1: Seemed like she felt really embarrassed. Well, as you would.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it ended up that she spoke to a
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Speaker 1: bunch of the other partners and they all seemed pretty
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Speaker 1: shocked by it. So it gave her that assurance that
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Speaker 1: it wasn't public knowledge. Now Jules alleges that the initial
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Speaker 1: plan from the Brisbane Lions was to keep the infidelity
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Speaker 1: under wraps and tell the media that she and Lockie
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Speaker 1: were working through marriage issues. And she said that she
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Speaker 1: felt this immense pressure from her close-knit circle to keep
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Speaker 1: it hush-hush. It quickly became apparent though that the club
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Speaker 1: was just trying to protect Lockie. No way. And what
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Speaker 1: was good for Lockie was no longer good for Jules.
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Speaker 1: That's when she decided to leak the story on her
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Speaker 1: own Instagram. Let's take a listen to what she said.
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Speaker 2: As soon as I put on my stories that I
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Speaker 2: wasn't working through anything and that I'd been betrayed and
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Speaker 2: I actually didn't think that was going to go as
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Speaker 2: crazy as it did, but it did. I actually felt
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Speaker 2: a huge like weight of relief.
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Speaker 1: Off my shoulders.
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Speaker 2: Because, yeah, it actually felt good to have people know
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Speaker 2: like not exactly what had happened but just the truth.
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Speaker 2: I really, I didn't like how it sounded in the
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Speaker 2: media that we were working through a marital issue. It
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Speaker 2: sounded like we were having a fight and like we
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Speaker 2: were going to work through it and that's definitely not
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Speaker 2: what was happening at all.
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Speaker 1: I think this is why so many people love Jules
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Speaker 1: because of this decision. She was like, you know what?
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Speaker 1: You're this big, powerful AFL club. Well, fuck you. Like
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Speaker 1: now with Instagram, people have the ability to be their
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Speaker 1: own newsrooms. Like you can broadcast any story you want,
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Speaker 1: which is fantastic. I mean, we spoke a couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks ago when we were talking about the Bailey Smith
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Speaker 1: saga about just how difficult the job of being a
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Speaker 1: media advisor for an AFL club or really any professional
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Speaker 1: sporting club is these days, because Players have their own platforms.
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Speaker 1: The partners have their own platforms and followings and they
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Speaker 1: can just go put out their own media statements. What
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Speaker 1: became increasingly apparent in this interview is that Jules was
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Speaker 1: not told the full story about this affair with Tess
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Speaker 1: Crosley because she originally thought that it was just a kiss,
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Speaker 1: but it later unraveled that it was a full-blown affair.
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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to what she said. I guess
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Speaker 1: it was an ongoing, like, four-month, affair. Okay. With my
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Speaker 1: best friend.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 2: Behind my back, which I actually didn't find out about
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Speaker 2: until I moved back to Perth. I thought it was
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Speaker 2: a one, I thought it was a, I was told
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Speaker 2: it was a kiss and that's all it was. And
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Speaker 2: I actually packed up and left because of that. And
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Speaker 2: then when I got to Perth, it all came out
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Speaker 2: and I found out that it was a lot more
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Speaker 2: than that.
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Speaker 1: And it had been going on.
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Speaker 2: For a lot longer, which was probably a good thing
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Speaker 2: that I was interstate when I found out that that
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Speaker 2: had happened because um yeah it wouldn't have been good
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Speaker 2: if I was in the same town.
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Speaker 1: As the people um just gross just awful obviously Lockie
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Speaker 1: and Tess were in damage control if they were trying
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Speaker 1: to get away with the older it was just a
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Speaker 1: curse I love how Jewel said it was lucky for
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Speaker 1: them that she was in a different state I mean
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Speaker 1: it makes sense she said that The worst part wasn't
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Speaker 1: so much the cheating, it was the lying afterwards. I mean,
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Speaker 1: this is your husband and your best friend. I cannot
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Speaker 1: even begin to imagine how betrayed she must have felt. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and she said that she didn't see the red flags,
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Speaker 1: but in hindsight, they were definitely there. I felt so
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Speaker 1: sorry for her when she said she felt like such
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Speaker 1: an idiot, but it's like, well, why would you expect
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Speaker 1: your husband and best friend to be having an affair?
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Speaker 1: It's just... appalling. Now, there have been longstanding rumours that
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Speaker 1: Jules and Lockie were in an open relationship and that
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Speaker 1: the two couples were swingers. Jules confirmed she was definitely
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Speaker 1: not in an open relationship, nor were they swinging. And
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Speaker 1: she joked that if she was, why would she have
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Speaker 1: packed up her whole life and left over a kiss?
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Speaker 1: It's so ridiculous that she even had to acknowledge those rumours. Like,
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Speaker 1: I feel like those rumours were just created by some
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Speaker 1: gross men on TikTok. Now, we touched on how this
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Speaker 1: week Lockie Neal Todd launched his new partner, Emma Field,
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Speaker 1: and it turns out that Jules found out about Emma
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Speaker 1: the same way everyone else did through the press. She
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Speaker 1: admitted a heads up would have been nice and it
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Speaker 1: was a completely new person she was unaware of. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it really gives an insight into... the current relationship between
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Speaker 1: Jules and Lockie. I mean, the fact that he has
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Speaker 1: zero respect to give her the heads up and say, hey,
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Speaker 1: this is probably going to break in all the newspapers. Well,
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Speaker 1: particularly because they've got two children together. They are co-parenting.
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Speaker 1: It's not like they're not talking to each other. She
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Speaker 1: also said until now she's tried not to say anything
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Speaker 1: to her kids about the situation, but she knows that
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Speaker 1: there will be a time when they're old enough to
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Speaker 1: Google the story and she hopes that they're proud of
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Speaker 1: their mum for sticking up for herself. I have no doubt.
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Speaker 1: her children will be incredibly proud of her. And disappointed
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Speaker 1: in their father. Now, Jules also issued a stark warning
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Speaker 1: to anyone getting into a relationship with an AFL player, joking,
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Speaker 1: don't do it. And she had a tip for those
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Speaker 1: who are currently dating footballers. She said, make sure you
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Speaker 1: have your own bank account and save some fuck you
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Speaker 1: money or runaway money. What was also interesting about Jules
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Speaker 1: putting out this warning to other women is was the
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Speaker 1: fact that this podcast interview was actually recorded before the
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Speaker 1: Sydney Swans saga, but her words are even more valid
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Speaker 1: at this point in time. Yeah, well, I'd like to
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Speaker 1: hazard a guess that a couple of Sydney Swans players'
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Speaker 1: girlfriends have probably slid into Jules Neal's DMs and they're
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Speaker 1: all trauma bonding at the moment. Well, all they have
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Speaker 1: to do is look to Jules Neal for a masterclass
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Speaker 1: on how to deal with the media off the back
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Speaker 1: of it. And the thing that I like about this
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Speaker 1: is that Jules has come out in such a strong way.
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Speaker 1: Like a few people were saying, oh, she didn't even
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Speaker 1: cry in the interview. It's like, why does she want
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Speaker 1: to waste her tears over that pathetic man? It's a
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Speaker 1: serious question, need an honest answer. How bad on the
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Speaker 1: scale of 1 to 10 does my hair look right now?
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Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley caused a stir when she appeared in court
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Speaker 1: on Monday to face drink driving charges. The former Big
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Speaker 1: Brother housemate clashed with a paparazzo outside court. However, inside,
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Speaker 1: her lawyer did all the talking. Now on Tuesday's show,
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Speaker 1: we spoke about how Sky had labelled her lawyer Belinda
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Speaker 1: Robertson an angel sent from the heavens. And it appears
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Speaker 1: she wasn't wrong. Yeah, she must be pretty thrilled with
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Speaker 1: this result. No conviction was recorded and she was fined
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Speaker 1: just $ 700 and disqualified from driving for five months. It
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Speaker 1: seems like Skye must have learned a lesson from the
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Speaker 1: last time she was in court. So that was back
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Speaker 1: in 2018 when she lost her license for six months
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Speaker 1: after being caught speeding in a school zone. Now, at
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Speaker 1: the time she chose to represent herself, And she applied
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Speaker 1: for this special restricted license, but her request was refused.
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Speaker 1: This time around, her lawyer did all the talking. She
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Speaker 1: entered a guilty plea on Skye's behalf to the charge
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Speaker 1: of having control of a vehicle while over the middle
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Speaker 1: alcohol limit. Now, this is a separate offense to driving
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Speaker 1: over the legal alcohol limit. And it makes sense as
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Speaker 1: to why Skye pled guilty to this lesser offense, as
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Speaker 1: she was actually found by police asleep in her car
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Speaker 1: with the engine running. The police actually had to wake
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Speaker 1: her up and that's when she blew two times over
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Speaker 1: the legal limit. I know I shouldn't laugh because it's
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Speaker 1: a serious matter, but a bit that cracked me up
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Speaker 1: about Skye's story is the fact that she drove to
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Speaker 1: McDonald's to get a frozen Coke. She was so desperate
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Speaker 1: to drink a frozen Coke. Yeah, it sounded like it
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Speaker 1: had been a big day for her because her lawyer
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Speaker 1: said that she'd been in Melbourne all day for business,
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Speaker 1: but she didn't want to return home to an empty
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Speaker 1: house so was going to go stay with a friend.
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Speaker 1: And then instead of that, she decided she'd drive to
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Speaker 1: a liquor store to pick up a bottle of Jim Beam.
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Speaker 1: Then she felt like the frozen Coke. I mean, you'd
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Speaker 1: assume she was going to mix some of the Jim
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Speaker 1: Beam into the frozen Coke. Now, Skye claims that she
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Speaker 1: drove sober to McDonald's and parked outside the fast food
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Speaker 1: restaurant to have a drink. The court was also told
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Speaker 1: that Skye had been experiencing anxiety and depression following her
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Speaker 1: breakup with her longtime boyfriend, Lockie Waugh. Additionally, she said
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Speaker 1: she was also sleep deprived and had barely eaten anything
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Speaker 1: for a week. The magistrate and police prosecutor were both
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Speaker 1: pretty sceptical about Skye's claims that she drove sober to McDonald's.
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Speaker 1: Acting magistrate Mark Whitbread said, And it was at this
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Speaker 1: point that the case was stood down so Skye's lawyer
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Speaker 1: could talk to her. So when they came back, Skye
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Speaker 1: agreed to proceed on the basis that the magistrate was
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Speaker 1: going to sentence her on the assumption that she had
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Speaker 1: already been drinking alcohol before driving to McDonald's. Despite all
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Speaker 1: of that, no conviction was recorded. And that really surprised
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Speaker 1: me considering this is Sky's second drink driving related offence.
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Speaker 1: Not to mention that she's also had her licence disqualified
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Speaker 1: before for speeding in a school zone, like I mentioned before. Kate,
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Speaker 1: I disagree. I'm not that surprised because often drunk drivers
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Speaker 1: in Australia just get a slap on the wrist. And
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Speaker 1: it's really disappointing because this is a serious offence. So
18:20
Speaker 1: many people have died as a result of drunk drivers
18:24
Speaker 1: and I mean, even if you look at recent events,
18:26
Speaker 1: just last month, cricketer David Warner, he also received a
18:29
Speaker 1: slap on the wrist. So he had to pay $ 1, 500
18:31
Speaker 1: as a fine. And he got one of those interlocker
18:35
Speaker 1: systems put on his car for the next 12 months.
18:38
Speaker 1: Like Sky, he too blew double over the limit. So
18:41
Speaker 1: it wasn't just a little bit of alcohol. I think
18:44
Speaker 1: Sky ultimately had a good lawyer who knew what they
18:47
Speaker 1: were doing because she really ticked all the boxes. She
18:49
Speaker 1: participated in the police program. leading into the court hearing.
18:53
Speaker 1: We heard her speak about that a lot on her
18:55
Speaker 1: Instagram story. She also has gone and seen a psychologist
18:59
Speaker 1: and she's starting to take medication for her anxiety and depression.
19:02
Speaker 1: Do you think this will have an effect on brand
19:05
Speaker 1: deals that Sky brings in? Because Even in the case
19:07
Speaker 1: of David Warner, I feel like these types of cases,
19:11
Speaker 1: when they get picked up in the mainstream media, it
19:13
Speaker 1: does cause huge reputational damage. Honestly, I don't think it's
19:17
Speaker 1: going to have that much of an impact on her
19:19
Speaker 1: because for years now, she's done quite controversial things and
19:23
Speaker 1: brands just seem to keep spending money with her. In
19:26
Speaker 1: saying that, a lot of her followers were unhappy with
19:28
Speaker 1: the verdict. And I think her posting her out to
19:31
Speaker 1: a celebratory dinner with friends and her lawyer was really
19:34
Speaker 1: rubbed people up the wrong way. But Sky Wheatley is
19:37
Speaker 1: basically like Teflon. Nothing seems to really stick and people
19:40
Speaker 1: just seem to forgive her and move on. Aaron Carter
19:44
Speaker 1: actually had the song on hold because he had done
19:46
Speaker 1: I Want Candy and then he wanted Strawberry Kisses. That
19:49
Speaker 1: would have worked for Aaron Carter. Carter. So I had
19:50
Speaker 1: to fight pretty hard to say, nope, this is my song.
19:54
Speaker 1: Let's get into what's been blowing up our group chat
19:56
Speaker 1: this week. And in some news that's going to make
19:58
Speaker 1: you feel really old, Nikki Webster's hit Strawberry Kisses is
20:02
Speaker 1: officially 25. It takes me back because I have vivid
20:06
Speaker 1: memories of watching Nikki Webster perform at the Olympics in
20:10
Speaker 1: Sydney at the opening ceremony. And I think she was
20:12
Speaker 1: around our age. Is that right? She's two years older
20:15
Speaker 1: than us. I actually saw this interview on a radio
20:18
Speaker 1: station with Nikki and this girl was like, look, before
20:20
Speaker 1: we start the interview, I just have to apologise. I
20:23
Speaker 1: used to hate you as a child because I was
20:25
Speaker 1: so jealous of you appearing at the Olympics and all
20:27
Speaker 1: the comments, because this was on TikTok, all the comments
20:30
Speaker 1: were like, oh my God, so do I and I
20:31
Speaker 1: feel so bad now. This is just more evidence that
20:34
Speaker 1: no one has ever had an individual thought because I've
20:36
Speaker 1: got to admit, I did not like her either when
20:38
Speaker 1: I watched it. I wouldn't have admitted at the time
20:41
Speaker 1: that I was jealous, but I think that's where it
20:43
Speaker 1: was stemming from. Oh, 100%. Now, to celebrate the anniversary,
20:47
Speaker 1: Nikki and her 12-year-old daughter, Skylar, performed Strawberry Kisses on
20:51
Speaker 1: the morning show. We need to have a listen. I
20:54
Speaker 1: know you're crying, no, no. Can't write those pretty words
20:59
Speaker 1: to show. Now, as you can imagine, this TikTok went
21:12
Speaker 1: absolutely viral. It's racked up nearly half a million views.
21:15
Speaker 1: A lot of people can't get over how much Skylar
21:18
Speaker 1: looks like Nikki when she was the same age. A
21:20
Speaker 1: lot of people are saying she looks like her clone. Yeah,
21:22
Speaker 1: they look freakishly similar. And for those who haven't seen
21:25
Speaker 1: the clip, Skylar is wearing the iconic hot pink piece
21:29
Speaker 1: that Nikki wore in the film clip. I wonder if
21:32
Speaker 1: Nikki's pulled it out of her wardrobe or they've had
21:34
Speaker 1: to replicate it. Well, the funniest thing about this clip
21:37
Speaker 1: going so viral was that it ended up in a
21:39
Speaker 1: lot of Americans' news feeds on TikTok and they clearly
21:42
Speaker 1: had no idea what was going on. And I think
21:45
Speaker 1: this is another reason why this video went so viral
21:48
Speaker 1: because there were so many comments from Americans saying like,
21:51
Speaker 1: what the fuck is this? The top comment on the
21:54
Speaker 1: TikTok read, my fellow Americans, this isn't for us. While
21:58
Speaker 1: another said, I assume this is something very Australian.
22:02
Speaker 3: Yes.
22:03
Speaker 1: Yes, it is. You are 100% correct. My favorite comment said,
22:08
Speaker 1: as someone who didn't experience this, what is this? I mean,
22:11
Speaker 1: it's a pretty fair question. I want to answer it
22:13
Speaker 1: for you. This is a very important part of our
22:16
Speaker 1: Australian culture because this song was number two on the
22:20
Speaker 1: ARIA charts for seven weeks in 2001. It was also
22:24
Speaker 1: the highest selling single by an Australian artist that year.
22:28
Speaker 1: It was actually trumped by Kylie Minogue's Can't Get You
22:30
Speaker 1: Out of My Head. and Me, Myself and I by Scandalous.
22:34
Speaker 1: I just feel like there was something in the air
22:37
Speaker 1: in the 2000s because the music is so addictive. Like
22:40
Speaker 1: I have not stopped listening to Strawberry Kisses and so
22:44
Speaker 1: much so that I've even been tempted to buy some
22:47
Speaker 1: of Nikki Webster's merchandise. So she has brought out 25th
22:51
Speaker 1: anniversary Strawberry Kisses hats. And I was trying to convince
22:54
Speaker 1: you guys, like we should actually get one because they're
22:56
Speaker 1: so cool. They're so ugly. You showed me. And I
22:59
Speaker 1: was like, are you okay?
23:01
Speaker 3: No.
23:01
Speaker 1: Like they're not nice at all. They are so cool.
23:03
Speaker 1: I actually thought whoever's doing her merch, we should get
23:06
Speaker 1: to do those kick in the dick hats we keep
23:08
Speaker 1: talking about. So for those who haven't seen it, it's
23:10
Speaker 1: a pink and gray camo hat blazoned with strawberry kisses
23:14
Speaker 1: across it. She actually was handing them out on the
23:16
Speaker 1: morning show and it was the male host wearing it
23:19
Speaker 1: that really sold it for me. They've got a bit
23:21
Speaker 1: of an Ed Hardy vibe. To them, don't they? They do.
23:24
Speaker 1: And I think that this could be the start of
23:27
Speaker 1: Nikki's comeback because she's marketing herself correctly. Like a lot
23:31
Speaker 1: of gay guys and girls would love these hats. They
23:35
Speaker 1: would love the merch that she has put out. This
23:37
Speaker 1: song is still catchy in 2026. A lot of people
23:40
Speaker 1: are saying that potentially they should get Nikki and her
23:43
Speaker 1: daughter to perform at the Brisbane Olympics this in 2032.
23:47
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be crazy? I'd be totally here for the
23:50
Speaker 1: return to the opening ceremony, but I don't have as
23:53
Speaker 1: high hopes as you, Amy, for a Nikki Webster return
23:56
Speaker 1: to pop music. I think people like the nostalgia of
23:59
Speaker 1: Strawberry Kisses, but I don't think people are going to
24:01
Speaker 1: be supporting a full album. Now, keeping on the nostalgia train,
24:05
Speaker 1: I was so excited to see that How to Lose
24:07
Speaker 1: a Guy in 10 Days is officially getting a sequel.
24:11
Speaker 1: I actually heard Zara and Michelle talking about this on Shameless.
24:14
Speaker 1: And Zara said that she thinks that the movie is overrated.
24:17
Speaker 1: And she said, oh, there were heaps better movies like
24:19
Speaker 1: Mean Girls and Devil Wears Prada. Obviously those are top tier,
24:23
Speaker 1: but this has got to be one of my favorite
24:26
Speaker 1: movies of the 2000s. This is my all time favorite movie.
24:29
Speaker 1: That's a bad call, Zara. Like I tend to agree
24:32
Speaker 1: with A lot of Michelle and Zara's calls, but not
24:34
Speaker 1: this one. I mean, Mean Girls for me probably sits
24:37
Speaker 1: slightly above this movie, but there's just something about it.
24:40
Speaker 1: I've got to say, it's probably the dress. I think
24:43
Speaker 1: every millennial woman has grown up wanting to wear that
24:45
Speaker 1: silky yellow dress to some event in their life. I'm
24:49
Speaker 1: yet to do that. Well, what's crazy is that people
24:52
Speaker 1: don't actually know where the dress is from the movie.
24:54
Speaker 1: So there was this bizarre rumor going around in 2021
24:57
Speaker 1: that that a TikTok user had found the original dress
25:01
Speaker 1: at a Goodwill store and it was only $ 4.
25:02
Speaker 3: 99.
25:03
Speaker 1: And what fanned the rumour further was the fact that
25:07
Speaker 1: Kate Hudson came out and said, yeah, she has no
25:09
Speaker 1: idea where the dress is but she wants someone to
25:12
Speaker 1: find it. Surely the dress will be featured in the
25:15
Speaker 1: new movie. Like it has to pop up somewhere. Well,
25:17
Speaker 1: it sounds like they're going to have to recreate it.
25:19
Speaker 1: The most exciting part of this news is the fact
25:22
Speaker 1: that Kate Hudson and Matthew McConaughey are tipped to actually
25:25
Speaker 1: reprise their roles today. as Andy Anderson and Benjamin Barry.
25:29
Speaker 1: Kate Hudson is also on board as a producer. Have
25:32
Speaker 1: you been watching the new Netflix show that she's on?
25:34
Speaker 1: The basketball one? No, I haven't seen it. It's actually okay.
25:36
Speaker 1: It's not the best thing ever, but it's really easy watching.
25:39
Speaker 1: But I just love her so much. She's a part
25:41
Speaker 1: of my childhood. Well, I think she's probably over being asked,
25:45
Speaker 1: will this return? Because every interview, I think for the
25:48
Speaker 1: last 20 years, she has probably had the question like,
25:51
Speaker 1: are you going to do a sequel? And in an
25:53
Speaker 1: interview last year on BBC, she said this.
25:57
Speaker 3: I do get a lot of pitches, like people with
26:02
Speaker 3: ideas of what, you know, where are they now?
26:05
Speaker 1: Would you be into it? Are you into it?
26:07
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course. It would just have to be right.
26:10
Speaker 3: You know, it'd have to be, it would have to
26:12
Speaker 3: be really good. It's like, you know, you don't want
26:14
Speaker 3: to break what's not broken. And so it would have
26:17
Speaker 3: to be all the right moving parts, but I always
26:21
Speaker 3: love working with Matthew.
26:22
Speaker 1: That's gotten me even more excited. And the internet is
26:25
Speaker 1: absolutely abuzz with predictions about how the movie is going
26:28
Speaker 1: to go. Some fans on Reddit said it should be
26:31
Speaker 1: called How to Lose a Girl in 10 Days. But
26:34
Speaker 1: then another Reddit user was quick to point out that
26:36
Speaker 1: the movie would only last two seconds because of girls'
26:39
Speaker 1: interest these days. Another title suggestion was The Return of
26:42
Speaker 1: the Tinkle King in reference to Andy's dog urinating on
26:46
Speaker 1: Benjamin's billiard table. Someone else also cleverly pointed out that
26:50
Speaker 1: a sequel is particularly fitting for seeing as the Knicks
26:53
Speaker 1: just won the NBA championships this year. This movie is
26:57
Speaker 1: the whole reason that I follow the Knicks. And when
26:59
Speaker 1: I say follow, I mean have pieces of their merchandise.
27:02
Speaker 1: I actually used to work in basketball and everyone used
27:05
Speaker 1: to be like, what's your NBA team? And I'd always
27:07
Speaker 1: say the Knicks and then everyone would ask me who
27:09
Speaker 1: my favourite player was. I'm yet to actually learn one
27:11
Speaker 1: of the players' names. Benjamin Barry? I'm literally wearing my
27:15
Speaker 1: Knicks jumper right now, which is very on trend. For
27:17
Speaker 1: a long time, they were doing shit. Well, yeah, so...
27:20
Speaker 1: I mean, this might sound really stupid, but I actually
27:23
Speaker 1: always thought they were quite successful because in the original movie,
27:26
Speaker 1: there is this theme of Andy and Ben watching the
27:29
Speaker 1: seven game NBA final series. And it is between the
27:32
Speaker 1: Knicks and the Kings. And at the end of the movie,
27:34
Speaker 1: the Knicks win the championship. But this was just a
27:37
Speaker 1: fictional result. So in reality, in 2003, the Knicks finished sixth.
27:43
Speaker 1: And I think it took them about 57 years to actually,
27:46
Speaker 1: like it's been 57 years since they have won a championship.
27:49
Speaker 1: I wonder if basketball will play a part in the
27:51
Speaker 1: new movie. Well, another prediction is that the movie might
27:55
Speaker 1: be about Andy and Ben's kids navigating online dating, which
27:58
Speaker 1: I thought was pretty clever. I hope not. Well, this
28:01
Speaker 1: was really a popular prediction because people said, oh, we'll
28:03
Speaker 1: give this opportunity for Andy and Ben to help them date.
28:08
Speaker 1: And I don't know. It'll be interesting to see if
28:09
Speaker 1: that one comes true. I've got a prediction. I think
28:12
Speaker 1: that Andy and Benjamin were only together for about a
28:14
Speaker 1: year after their famous reunion in the cabs. I think
28:19
Speaker 1: we're going to then see in this sequel them reuniting
28:23
Speaker 1: when they're older. you know, maybe their careers took them
28:26
Speaker 1: in different directions. I reckon that Andy will suddenly be
28:30
Speaker 1: working as a podcaster a bit like they did with
28:32
Speaker 1: Carrie Bradshaw and Sex and the City. Like every journalist
28:35
Speaker 1: just seems to then become a podcaster in the 2020s. Yeah, no,
28:39
Speaker 1: that's a good call. Definitely. Well, I think that's where
28:41
Speaker 1: we're going to leave things today. Thank you so much
28:43
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