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Maldini becomes Technical Director of the Azzurri - Start of new Era - Ep. 312 · The Calcio Guys

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  Speaker 1: It maybe the middle of the World Cup, but of
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  Speaker 1: course we got to talk about Italy here on the
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  Speaker 1: Coucho Guys with Agiano im Nicholas. You could follow us
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  Speaker 1: the Culture Guys, Jenny is in Minnesota chatting up with
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  Speaker 1: cold Clawfield right now. That's why you can't make it tonight.
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  Speaker 1: But Adri, how's it going.
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  Speaker 2: It's going, good man, Happy to be back always. We
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  Speaker 2: didn't know if you were gonna We didn't know what
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  Speaker 2: this week was gonna was gonna unfold with, and we
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  Speaker 2: got a bombshell of a news in Italian football. So
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  Speaker 2: we're here to talk about it tonight, just me and
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  Speaker 2: Yunick and happy to be back always.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, before we get into it, Adri, I do want
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  Speaker 1: to keep it local for a bit because this week
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  Speaker 1: UH three Montreal teams in the in the Canadian Championship.
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  Speaker 1: Uh CF Montreal advanced winning two to one and two
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  Speaker 1: to one two two one wins over FC Vancouver Super.
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  Speaker 1: They have the three to one lead now over Athletic QUADAWUA.
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  Speaker 1: Game secondly doesn't go for another month, so that's gonna
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  Speaker 1: take some time time. But C almost pulled off the
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  Speaker 1: upset against Forge FC. For for people who don't know
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  Speaker 1: the context. You know, obviously in Canada, you know you
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  Speaker 1: got the white Caps, TFC, CF Montreal and MLS, then
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  Speaker 1: we got CPL, the second vision. Forge is the best
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  Speaker 1: team in the CPL. They're a team that could compete
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  Speaker 1: in the MLS. They beat CF Montreal in in the
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  Speaker 1: Canadian Championship before. They're a serious team. They're a serious club.
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  Speaker 1: And CS Saint laurent is in the third division in
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  Speaker 1: the provincial Quebec Provincial League semi pro and Forge needed
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  Speaker 1: a ninety plus minute winner to beat them. It was
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  Speaker 1: three two in the two le gggregate. You know, so
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  Speaker 1: shout out to Cis laurent I was really cheering for them.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you were watching the game yesterday, agree,
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  Speaker 1: but I was watching it. I was. I was pretty
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  Speaker 1: disappointed when when they scored that goal, and you know what,
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  Speaker 1: that winning goal, I will say, if there was far
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it would have counted because there was
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  Speaker 1: a foul against the goalie right before. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: it sucks for them. You know, credit to them, their
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  Speaker 1: coaching staff. This is a whole new coaching staff after
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  Speaker 1: Nick or Zaggie left to join Supra. But look, Montreal
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  Speaker 1: soccer is strong. It would have I would have loved
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  Speaker 1: to see a Super c LAURSS semi final. Well now
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  Speaker 1: we could hope for a Super Montreal finally.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, either way, it's gonna be a Rocco Patchettino Derby, right,
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  Speaker 2: no matter what, No matter what Montreal team comes out
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  Speaker 2: of there, it's it's Roc was gonna have his hands
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  Speaker 2: in there. So h yeah, man, listen, Uh it was
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  Speaker 2: unfortunately I did see the ending of that and uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know what just has been on the map. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know ever since you know obviously that the hell
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  Speaker 2: off Ox wonder win, you know, you know, in in
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  Speaker 2: the Canadian Championship two editions ago and you know playing
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  Speaker 2: TFC you know here in code rollbard for for vocal context,
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  Speaker 2: you know, for any local listeners. So so that was huge.
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  Speaker 2: I remember we went to that and that just kind
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  Speaker 2: of opened the scene of Quebec soccer. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: with a lot more eyeballs. And obviously you know the
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  Speaker 2: birth the rebirth of Supra and you know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: so on and so forth. But you know, just incredible play,
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  Speaker 2: incredible grit. Uh, you know, not no no no quit
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  Speaker 2: in in csame raw and any of the teams really
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  Speaker 2: because you know, even even I was gonna say the
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  Speaker 2: impact see if Montreal sorry, you know, getting the right
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  Speaker 2: card right like that could have that could have went
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  Speaker 2: left like real fast. You know, they stuck the course
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  Speaker 2: and and got the job done which they were expected
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  Speaker 2: to do. And then Supra right, you know, the three
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  Speaker 2: one advantage currently you know, you know, just an incredible
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  Speaker 2: game that was too right, the three one hell of
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  Speaker 2: a goal by another fellow Italian, you know, Sean Rey,
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  Speaker 2: al right, so the tajudo is it seems to be
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  Speaker 2: his signature as well, so you know, shout out to him,
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  Speaker 2: shout out to them. It's it's weird how we were
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  Speaker 2: speaking a boy I think off air a little while back. Now,
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  Speaker 2: it's weird that their second leg is is in a
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  Speaker 2: month's time in August some time. I think it's the
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  Speaker 2: middle of August, if I'm not mistaken.
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  Speaker 1: In August eleven, August eleventh, So you know, eyes.
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  Speaker 2: On that for sure. And then we're hopeful for super
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  Speaker 2: To to advance past past this round and you know,
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  Speaker 2: we'll see where it goes from there. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: we've said it. You know, timeless times on this show. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: and anybody local definitely knows. You know, Quebec soccer is
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  Speaker 2: strong and these are these are living proofs of it.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe, uh, middle maybe Italy has to take a page
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  Speaker 1: out of Soccer Canada's book Soccer Quebec. Yeah, I know,
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  Speaker 1: Canada has more wins in the World Cup than Italy
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  Speaker 1: in the past twelve years. But that's what we're here
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  Speaker 1: to talk about. Adri. The Italian national team big news, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: kind of out of the blue yesterday. Obviously there were
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  Speaker 1: maybe a bit of rumors, but Paulo Maldini named the
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  Speaker 1: technical director of the f i JC. Uh so he's
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  Speaker 1: going to oversee not only the senior men's national team,
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  Speaker 1: but soccer as a whole. He's uh, he's gonna take it,
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  Speaker 1: take over the f i j C from a sporting standpoint.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we were talking about it off air, Adri.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't We don't think this position even existed before him.
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  Speaker 1: Uh you know, I I know Roberto Badger was involved
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  Speaker 1: maybe fifteen years ago when he had that nine hundred
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  Speaker 1: page report that nobody read. I don't know if it
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  Speaker 1: was in the same position, but there was no one
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  Speaker 1: there was no one as a technical director in these
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  Speaker 1: past few years. So Maldini comes in. You know, one
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  Speaker 1: thing I'll say, it's it's a good change of pace.
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  Speaker 1: It's good to have someone on the soccer side. And
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  Speaker 1: who better than the greatest to ever do it, Paula Maldini.
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  Speaker 1: And this is a guy that's he's not He's not
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  Speaker 1: there just because of his name, right, He's earned his
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  Speaker 1: stripes in management. He was a sporting director at Milan
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  Speaker 1: from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty three. They want to
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  Speaker 1: screw that though, So besides the fact that he was
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  Speaker 1: the greatest ever to do it on the pitch, he's
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  Speaker 1: he has a proven track record in management as well,
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  Speaker 1: and that's what we wanted to see. That's the change
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  Speaker 1: that we wanted to see.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously Malago comes in as the FIGC FIGC president, He's
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  Speaker 1: likely going to take a sport business corrective, right, and
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  Speaker 1: you let Maldini do the technical stuff. Look, it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: take some time before we see any real change. You know,
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  Speaker 1: this is a position, a technical director position that a
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  Speaker 1: bit like I don't know, a CEO of a company,
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  Speaker 1: and they're not going to come in and things are
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  Speaker 1: going to change tomorrow. You know, you need six months,
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  Speaker 1: twelve months, eighteen months for change to really happen, and
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  Speaker 1: maybe in soccer it maybe even longer. We might not
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  Speaker 1: see changed till the twenty thirties. Right, but it's it's
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  Speaker 1: a positive start and I'm excited. I'm excited what he
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  Speaker 1: can do. I trust Maldini and right now it's the
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  Speaker 1: next step is finding a coach because Italy plays in
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  Speaker 1: just over two months from now, so they need a coach.
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  Speaker 1: No disrespect to Baldini, who's the interim. They need a
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  Speaker 1: legitimate coach. We'll talk about that after, but this is
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  Speaker 1: I think this is a great day. This is a
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  Speaker 1: great day for talent soccer, and hopefully in five ten
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  Speaker 1: years we're going to look back and you know, thank you,
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  Speaker 1: thank you Maldini for winning the Nations League, for winning
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  Speaker 1: the Euros and winning the World.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, let's fingers crossed. Let's hope, let's hope for for
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  Speaker 2: some for some glory to come soon for Italy. But yeah, man,
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  Speaker 2: you said it. Well, we spoke about a bit off air,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, and for me as a mean fan
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  Speaker 2: and as an Italian football fan, obviously, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: if it wasn't for Maldini to be with Milan. I
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  Speaker 2: would want him to see with the Adzuri. So those
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  Speaker 2: are those like for me, that's perfect. When there was
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  Speaker 2: the links of you know, going to Saudi and going
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  Speaker 2: to here, going to there, I was like, oh, man,
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  Speaker 2: I hope he doesn't and you know what, if he's
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  Speaker 2: not going to come home to Milan, he'll come home
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  Speaker 2: to Italy. So I'm happy either way. It just like
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  Speaker 2: you said, it's a breath of fresh air because this
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  Speaker 2: is a move that potentially potentially could be you know,
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  Speaker 2: a move that, like you said, we look back on
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  Speaker 2: and you know, this is the turning point, the final,
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  Speaker 2: finally turning point of Italian football. Right. So it's a
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  Speaker 2: water pressure for one man obviously, but if there's one
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  Speaker 2: man to trust, it's going to be a figure like
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  Speaker 2: Paul Maldini. And not only saying that because of the name,
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  Speaker 2: and he's not there because of the name, Uh, he's
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  Speaker 2: There's there was multiple reports saying, you know, he he
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  Speaker 2: had he wasn't gonna accept, he rejected whatever was was
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  Speaker 2: on the table in terms of position and whatnot. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the same thing happened at Melon, right, there was rumors
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  Speaker 2: of him coming no, yes, no, yes, no. He finally
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  Speaker 2: ended up taking the position at Melan. Listen, they want
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  Speaker 2: a scudetto in that time, in that timeframe, and and
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  Speaker 2: he did some some some great work for for Melon.
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  Speaker 2: But the one thing about Maldinia that I think everybody
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  Speaker 2: knows by now is he's not a yes man and
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  Speaker 2: he's not going to be pushed around, and he's not
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  Speaker 2: going to be uh you know, playing second fiddle to
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  Speaker 2: a mile ago or to to anybody else out there.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he has a lot of responsibility not only
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  Speaker 2: as technical director of the f i GC, but no
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  Speaker 2: president of Clabetalia, right, so that oversees not only the
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  Speaker 2: senior team. And this is this is something that we've
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  Speaker 2: been we've been missing, uh some some unity, some identity.
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  Speaker 2: Uh you know, we don't know what Italy's identity is.
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  Speaker 2: We've been lacking in an identity for for for multiple
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  Speaker 2: years now. So hopefully with a figure like Maldini in
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  Speaker 2: this position that he's that he's technical director of FIGC,
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  Speaker 2: president of Kabutalia, which is overseen from you know, the
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  Speaker 2: youth ranks, so the youth sixteen seventeen all the way
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  Speaker 2: up to twenty one and the senior team will finally
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  Speaker 2: have some cohesion, not that we're having you know, great
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  Speaker 2: U nineteen twenty one teams and then when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to the senior national team where we're we're not on
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  Speaker 2: the same page and we just expect results to happen.
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  Speaker 2: So for me, it's exciting, uh, you know, not only
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  Speaker 2: as a fan of Maldini. Obviously he's a he's a
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  Speaker 2: legend for for for US Neon fans, but even just
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  Speaker 2: for Italian cultural fans as well. So and he took
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  Speaker 2: the job so clearly he saw something that finally, after
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  Speaker 2: three editions of not making the World Cup, you know,
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  Speaker 2: finally we're potentially going to see some change, some real change,
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  Speaker 2: some desperate change that we need. And yeah, like I
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  Speaker 2: can't wait to see what is what he what he does?
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  Speaker 2: You know, obviously a lot of a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: are looking online and seeing the reports of the potential coach,
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  Speaker 2: and I know we'll get into that later, but that's
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  Speaker 2: his first course of action, right, we need a coach,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, Nick, and that's that's almost pretty much
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  Speaker 2: on top of the list of things to do first.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see where that goes. But again, it's not
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  Speaker 2: an overnight thing. And you know, any fan of Italian football,
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  Speaker 2: Italian culture will know that it's not an overnight thing.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot, a lot of work to be done.
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  Speaker 2: I think the pieces are there, but it's a matter
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  Speaker 2: of picking up those pieces, putting him together and having
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  Speaker 2: a finished product on on the field to showcase you
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  Speaker 2: know what we do have. Because we said it on
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  Speaker 2: the show before and I'll stick by it. I think
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  Speaker 2: there is quality there. There is there is certain pieces.
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  Speaker 2: We just haven't had an identity for so long that
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  Speaker 2: we don't even know if we're coming or going. So
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  Speaker 2: hopefully Maldini is the leader of the ship, not only
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  Speaker 2: uh you know, like in terms of technical stuff and
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  Speaker 2: and whatnot, but even just a figure just to just
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  Speaker 2: to kind of lean on, you know, because he's he's
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  Speaker 2: won it all but the World Cup. I I know,
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  Speaker 2: he's won it all, but the World Cup the one
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  Speaker 2: thing that I think would have really cemented him on
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  Speaker 2: a on a on another level, even though I put
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  Speaker 2: him on that level regardless, But you know, he's he's
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  Speaker 2: he's just a figure that, like I said, you can
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  Speaker 2: lean on these, you know, these other management can definitely
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  Speaker 2: look his way with with full support, and yeah, we
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  Speaker 2: have to trust him. We have to trust them and
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  Speaker 2: you know what we have to we have to also
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  Speaker 2: trust what Malgo put into place for Maldini to even
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  Speaker 2: accept the role, because, like I said earlier, if it
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  Speaker 2: was same old Italy, we wouldn't be here talking about
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  Speaker 2: Paul Maldini technical director of FI. Do you see That's
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  Speaker 2: that's that's a that's a certain fact, like we said,
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  Speaker 2: not a yes man, and we we need that. We
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  Speaker 2: need somebody that's we're gonna take this, this federation, this
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  Speaker 2: football footballing nation by the horns and and take it
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  Speaker 2: to another level where we know they could be or
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  Speaker 2: they should be at. So yeah, it's just it's it's
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  Speaker 2: a lot to unpacked. Obviously, we're just one hiring. There
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  Speaker 2: was also Leonardo that is is gonna be as an
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  Speaker 2: advisor under Maldini as well. Uh they obviously work together
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  Speaker 2: in a mew one as well, so there's a bit
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  Speaker 2: of history there. You know, he has a good eye
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  Speaker 2: for for for for players, for youth. So I'm just excited, excited.
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  Speaker 2: We we haven't had exciting news with Italian soccer for
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  Speaker 2: so long that any bit of of positivity is you know,
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  Speaker 2: sends us over the moon. So but in saying that,
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  Speaker 2: any fans, any any Audi fans, definitely buckle up because
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  Speaker 2: it's it's to be along ride.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know what, I think you're right about.
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  Speaker 1: You know the qualities that right, there's no doubt Italy
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  Speaker 1: has good players. I think you know, the whole World
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  Speaker 1: Cup debacles, I think honestly it comes down to mentality
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  Speaker 1: of the team in those specific games. I think at
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  Speaker 1: this point, after missing three World Cups, and I feel
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  Speaker 1: like we saw it against Bostona, they were they were nervous, right,
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  Speaker 1: and it comes down to these one games. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: at the same time, they can just use that as
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  Speaker 1: an excuse. We know they need to get better. This
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  Speaker 1: is not Italy of twenty years ago. This They're not
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  Speaker 1: challenging for World Cups, right, They're ranked I think sixteenth
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  Speaker 1: and fief for rankings. Now USA is right behind them,
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  Speaker 1: Switzerland is just above them. So yeah, besides failure in
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  Speaker 1: a couple of games, they need to get better. You know,
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  Speaker 1: one thing that you know might be a bit I
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  Speaker 1: guess controversial that I like to see is be a
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  Speaker 1: bit more aggressive in going outside of Italy and finding
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  Speaker 1: players play for the national team, because that's that's a
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  Speaker 1: state of international football football right now, players from all
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  Speaker 1: kinds of different backgrounds playing, having the option to play
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  Speaker 1: for three four different teams. Italy has a lot of
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  Speaker 1: immigrants outside the country, whether it's North America, South America,
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  Speaker 1: rest Europe. Go out and find those georginios, find those
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  Speaker 1: camera and easies, right and kind of use that to
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  Speaker 1: your advantage. I know a lot of people might not
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  Speaker 1: like that, you know, they want players who are born
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  Speaker 1: and raised in Italy, who grew up through the Italian
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  Speaker 1: news system. But when every other team is doing it,
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  Speaker 1: use that to your advantage. Look at Morocco their first
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  Speaker 1: game against Brazil in the World Cup, they had eleven
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  Speaker 1: players born outside of Morocco. I'm not saying for Italy
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  Speaker 1: to go get eleven players put born outside of outside
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  Speaker 1: of Italy, but you know, you look back, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: World Cup win six. Even Simoni Perota was born outside
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  Speaker 1: of Italy. Comer and easy as well. Look Georgino Toloi
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  Speaker 1: and Emerson Palmieri were on the Euro team, all Brazilian.
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  Speaker 1: It's go out. I'm not saying go out and get
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  Speaker 1: Joel Pedros either, who played one game for the Italian
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  Speaker 1: national team that was against North Macedonia. Go out and
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  Speaker 1: get legit players, but use that to your advantage. At
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  Speaker 1: the same time they do, they do need to do
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  Speaker 1: a better job developing the youth. And I also think, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they we talked about this after you know,
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  Speaker 1: missing the last World Cup. Work with the work with
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  Speaker 1: the clubs. At the end of the day, the city
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  Speaker 1: and f i GC and not the f IGC, the
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  Speaker 1: Italian the senior national team. They're different identities, they have
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  Speaker 1: different goals. The city has after making money. They really
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  Speaker 1: don't care if the Italian national team does well and
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  Speaker 1: not as long as they're making money. But I do
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  Speaker 1: think when top teams in the city are good, whether
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  Speaker 1: it's it's like good as in good good in Europe,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's it's Inter me Lian, Melan, Juve, Napolis, Roma, whoever,
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  Speaker 1: it helps the national team. Look at look at look
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  Speaker 1: at France for example, the league is not good. League
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  Speaker 1: is not a good league, but PSG is an amazing team.
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  Speaker 1: They've won it back to back champions leagues. And France
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  Speaker 1: has an amazing national team that has benefited from PSG.
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  Speaker 1: Whether it's den Bla, Denble or Membape or you name it, right,
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  Speaker 1: same in a way, same thing with Spain, you know,
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  Speaker 1: between Barcelona and Real Madrid. You know, when you have
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  Speaker 1: these top teams producing top talent from a young level,
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  Speaker 1: it helps the national team. So I think there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of different avenues in which they could go out
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  Speaker 1: and get better. And it's there's no right answer.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Either, you know.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Even you know, I'm going to bring up Canada. You
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: know a lot of people online talking about how does
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Canada keep producing on talent? Now they're talking about having
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: a centralized development system. Not a bad idea, I know.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Let's say the US does that with their They're in
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Hockey US national development program. That's work, wonders, But maybe
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Apple's to oranges here. I don't know if Italy having
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: a central system will work because of all these different clubs, right,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: and all the different youth academies they have. That's why
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I'm saying they need to work with the youth academies
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: across the country and maybe have like a a strong
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: coaching development program, Right, you go to teach coaches how
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: to teach soccer. Right, Uh, so maybe that's one one
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: way they could get better. So there's there's there's so
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: many different avenues and like I said, there's no right answer,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: but they also need to use these different avenues to
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: their advantage.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I think, like we know, this is not
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: an overnight thing. This is not going to be solved
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: tomorrow or next week or next month or whatever even
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: next year. So we're in it for the long haul.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: So whatever avenues that they have to take, I think
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: they can entertain some of them, Like to your point
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: of of you know, going out and and and finding
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: the the foreigner with with Italian you know, lineage or
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: what have you. I think that avenue can be used.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: But I think within within within reason, because you know,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: in this day and age, obviously the immigration and and
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: and everything like we see it even France, like it's
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: France really France, Like no, you know, as Morocco really Morocco. No,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: like you said, they're whole starting eleven is born outside
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: of outside of Morocco. They still represent Morocco, which is
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: not a problem. These things are are are realities of
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: life currently, so it's not it's not like it should
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: be banned to do so. But I think regardless of
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: going that route, you have to you have to also
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: centralize it in this in a sense of keeping it
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: within your within your own borders as well, just for
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: the fact of working in the in the U systems,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: the U sixteen, like the U sixteen and the senior
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: national team, in my opinion, they should be on the
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: same page. They should have the end goal of get
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: into obviously not everybody's gonna make it, but get from
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: U sixteen to the next like all steps once you
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: reach the senior national team, we should already know like
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: what to expect. They should already know what to expect
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: come you know, the potential call up to the senior
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: national team. Like those coaches have to be on like
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: whoever's going to be the coach for the national team,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: the senior national team if it be a you know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: a Mancini or a content and we'll get onto all
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: that later. And the U sixteen coach, U seventeen coach eighteen,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: nineteen twenty twenty one, those guys should all be on
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: the same page. Plane. Again, some will say they have
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: to play the same for the philosophy, they have to
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: play the same style. That is probably taking it to
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: the maximum level of unity, because we see it in
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Spain like the sixteen year old Spaniard kid, he's going
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: to know what to expect once he gets to you nineteen,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: once he gets to you twenty one, and once he
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: potentially gets to the senior national team. Because they all
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: play the same system. They have that identity, which is
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: something that we've been missing. Like I said earlier, it's
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: mentality and identity, I think are the two things that
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: we've been missing the most in recent in recent years,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: because we see it, we're mentally weak. And not only
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: are we mentally weak, we don't have an identity to
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: fall on. Like back in the days we knew CONTI
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: natural defense first, you know, you know, play play, play
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: out the game. You know, defensively, I will catch them
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: on you know, we'll catch them on a counter, We'll
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: catch them on on whatever. It would be like a
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: one millar victory. And and that was satisfying for us.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: In this modern game, does that work Some will say yes,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: some will say no. So we have to evolve and
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: we have to find our identity. And it starts. It
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: starts in the youth ranks. I'm convinced by that, because
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: once you have that foundation, it gets only it should
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: only get easier as as the as the years go by.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: So if that can happen, I think, you know, that's
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: obviously a lot of ifs here in this episode, because
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: there's a lot to be a lot to be worked on,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: there's a lot to be had. But you know, if
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: these things do occur, I think will be on a
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: better path. And you know, like you said, like all
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: the coaches should like be on the same page, Like
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: it shouldn't only have been like a Baldini to be
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: you know, playing like all the youngsters and really really
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: believing in the in the in the youth like youth
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: mentality of of of today's game, and every other coach
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: not thinking that way like they should have. They should
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: be in unison in some sense, right, So I don't know,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I think that's that's one course of action, obviously, And
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: at the same time, not only within you know, you know,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: the youth the youth UH national teams up to the
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: senior national team. But even with it, I know what
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: you're saying, Nick, with you know Siya and and Fi.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: You see, like there they have two different end goals.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I get that, But if we can kind of just
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: get it closer to the middle. On somewhat of the
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: same page. I think that only helps as well, because
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you know, don't don't
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: don't say, oh, yeah, it's a dream to play for
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: the national team. It's a dream for the way for
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: the national team. Oh, we want the national team to
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: do well. But then we're we're struggling in our league
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: and we're struggling, you know, internationally. So I think if
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: we can kind of we don't have to be on
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: the same exact page, because we know it's a business
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: in this day and age. I get it. But if
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: we can kind of, you know, bring that gap a
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: bit closer, I think I think things will will be better.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: And you know, our teams at the top have to
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: be strong. Like you said, I do agree with that
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: as well, because you know, we can only focus on one.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I know everybody's gonna say, oh, you know what the
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: juv blalok back in the day was this the inter
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: buck currently is that, Like, I don't. I don't want
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: to hear that anymore. Like there's quality players, if you
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: like it or not, if you like them personally or not,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I don't care. There's quality. There's quality there. But those
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: top teams have to be doing well. Like we have
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: to see a competitive intet. We have to see a
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: competitive meanlane, a competitive juve, a competitive Napoli Rollo, you know,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Atalanta and one and so forth. Right, But we have
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: to see these guys, you know, perform not only in
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: said yeah, but even you know obviously you know in
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Europe as well. So and we've said it in the past,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: we have to see this this this you know, resurgence
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: of of Italian uh, you know, players getting quality minutes.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Like you know a guy I know, he's he's recent
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: transfer obviously Liberawi, right, Liberwi. You know he was pointing
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: at a Cattanzado last year. You know, he's a mean,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: mean product. You want let him go, you know, for
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: for for peanuts. They wanted to bring him back. Como
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: gets him. Finally Como has an Italian on their roster.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: It seems like, right, but we need more. We need
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: more of that because there are there is that quality.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Uh and if it if it means going to study
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: of b and get into quality minutes, because you're not
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: gonna get in said yeah, do it? We need it,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: like it needs to happen. So again, I don't know
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: how much of a how much of a hand Maldini?
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I know this this this this episode is probably really
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Maldini says, focused on I don't know how much of
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: a hand he's gonna have on those types of things.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's obviously his avenue. But again, if
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: we can kind of bring that gap closer with even
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Setia to the you know, fig see the Italian national system,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: I think we'll be on a we will be on
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: a smoother path because it's it's impossible that every every
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: every tournament year we're saying, wow, we have such a
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: great U nineteen team. Wow, they're doing so good. You
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: twenty one, Oh my god, they went to the final,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, they won. Okay, sometimes they lost in
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: that in those in those times, I get it, but like,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: when are we going to see that, oh my god,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: do you twenty The U nineteen, the you twenty one
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: and the senior national team are all doing good like
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: it seems like it's been forever that we haven't said that.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: So I'm I'm hopeful that a guy like Maldini in
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: this position that he has overseeing all these things and
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: making these decisions and making these these you know, these
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: these critical decisions you know, will be able to change
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: a lot of fans mentality going forward, and not only
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: our mentality, but the mentality of Italian football as a whole,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: because we were lost currently and there's only I don't
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: think we can go any further down, So there's only
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: up from here, and I think Maltine is a good
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: superhero to kind of bring us out of the allest trouble.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what, you bring up a good
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: point about the youth teams. Look U seventeen team, they
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: won in the Euro U seventeen in twenty twenty four
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: and twenty twenty six semifinals in twenty twenty five. U
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: nineteen team won the euros in twenty twenty three semifinals
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two to twenty twenty four, didn't qualify
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five group stage this past year. Then you
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: get to the U twenty one team that they haven't
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: gotten past the quarter finals since twenty seventeen. They have
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: been won since four. YOU twenty team never won the
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: YOU twenty World Cup, but they did, they'd they'd finish
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: runners up in twenty three, fourth place in twenty nineteen,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: third place in twenty seventeen. So uh, it's as if
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: our the younger teams are are the best, and maybe
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: we should send those teams to the World Cup. I
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: don't know, but there's a lot of different factors, right, Yeah,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: that I wouldn't look into these championships too much, right
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: because look, look, let's compare it to Hockey World Junior Championships.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: How many World Junior heroes are going to have it? Yeah,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: that's it, right, legit NHL players, you know exactly.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: All those no correlation, all those youth players that are
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: on these winning teams or teams that have went far.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: It's a numbers game at the end of the day.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Not all those guys are gonna make the make the
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: jump to the senior national team. And I get it.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: But as long as they're on the same page, like
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: mentally and like identity wise, like I'm keep on phoning
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: in on this episode, I think that's that's that's like
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: the that's the point we're trying to get across. Because
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: even if if he does make it, if you know,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: whatever his name is, makes if if Gennato makes it,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: you know, or it doesn't, you know, as long as
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: he knows, like what type of football they're playing, and
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: and and the mentality and what is expected and how
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: much the weight of the shirt, the Zooti shirt weighs,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: and all these factors. I think that's that's that's the point,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: if he makes it or not. Because you again again
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: like you said World Juniors, you know, do you the
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: U nineteen twenty one, all these plays like they're not
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: all going to make the jump, And that's that's it's
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: that's only obvious. Like we we we know that. But
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: if and when they do get called, we need them
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: to be on the same page. We need them to
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: be ready to go. So if they're not, then it's
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: it's it's just a waste of time. So yeah, because
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: like and again even I don't want to really bring
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: it up, but like just to kind of like say it.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: You know, the Baldini you know, decision that he made
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: when when when you got those two those two those
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: two matches there for freely, you know, bringing all the
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: always basically always youth, always youth products that he that
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: he was already coaching pretty much and brought them up,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: you know, despite all I think like Donald human and whatnot,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: you know, not that not that that was gonna move mountains.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: That those these results weren't gonna move mountains, but it
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: showed us something that there is some quality in there.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: And there is some because at the end of the day,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: like and I know you said this a lot on
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: the show. You know a lot of these guys they
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: don't if they don't play with each other during the year,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: they're not seeing each other like I know, probably their
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: friends and about all that stuff, But on the pitch,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: they're not getting that chemistry that you would have week
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: in and week out when you're you're playing with each other,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: you know, for your club or for what or what
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: have you, So like that needs to be That's why
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I'm stressing, you know, identity and mentality because you know,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: if they do play with each other in club football
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: or they don't, they'll they'll know again what to expect
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: when it comes to the call up for you nineteen,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: for you twenty twenty one senior national team. Doyn't know
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: what to expect. They'll know what to give and how
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: to play with each other. Because now you can't just
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: throw in eleven players and expect them obviously to have results.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: It's not to have see twenty six here. So that's
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: another thing. I think we you know, obviously we we
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: kind of saw a glimpse of it, and you know,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Baldeini has been a bit a big advocate for it.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: You know, what ends up happening going forward obviously now
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: remains to be seen with with all these changes now.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: But it's it's it's it's something to to to look
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: at for sure.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, and talking about mentality, talking about coaches, I
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: mean perfect, perfect time for that, you know, obviously hasn't
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: been announced. I think it's been announced. There's been so
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: many rooms. You know, it started off with Conte, then
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: it went to Mancini, and now it's like Guardiola and
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: it's a pure look today. Yeah, look, I'm gonna be honest, Guardiola,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: if he's available, do what you can't to go out
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: and get him.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: You would go all out him.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: And again I know that's gonna be controversial. He's not
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Italian this and that. Yeah, Thomas Toucle is leading the
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: English English team to the semi finals right now, right
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: and let's be real.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: You can then you can look on the other side
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: of the coin in Ancelotti failed that with Brazil. So
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: it's it's fair. It's a it's a double short, my friend.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: There's a look at the end of the day, a
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: lot of national teams have coaches not from them, And look,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Guardiola is you know, he's he's. Look, he is Spanish,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: but he did play in Italy. He knows Italy. I'm
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: sure I know. Drea already speaks Italian.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah he does.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: He's He's the next best thing to not being you know, Italian. Look,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: even his last thing, Guardiola sounds Italian enough, right, But
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I know for me he's he's. I think he's my
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: favorite candidate. Uh, Piero's name popped up. God, God help
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: us if that's the case. I had to look. I
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: like Pierlo when he was coaching Juve. But he's he's
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: on the same level as right, He's there because of
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: his name. He's not an actual good coach. I can't
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: even tell you off the top of my head what
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: he's done since you was it was he coaching.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: So he went to Uh he went to Turkey and
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: I don't remember the name. I had seen it. I
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: knew he had went to Turkey. I was watching, Yeah, yeah,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I was watching. I was watching our friend Marco me
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Marco g On on Instagram and he had he posted
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: a video about it, so shout out to him. But yeah,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: it was Turkey. Then he went to Sandoria and now
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: he's in Dubai. I believe he's still I don't know
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: if he still has if he still has that position,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: but last he was in Dubai Dubai United. If I'm
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: not mistaking the.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Thing exactly, all right, So thirty six games when Turkey
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: thirteen wins, twelve draws, loven losses, forty five games Sam
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Doodia forty five sixty wins, twelve draws, seventeen losses and
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: his best record so far as with Dubai United. But
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I know nothing about the Dubai League, how good they
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: are twenty one wins and thirty one games, seven draws,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: five losses. Pilo's off the table if it's not going
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: to be Guardiola. I am a fan in a way
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: of Mancheti coming back, but only if he has to realize,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: like this is ground zero. This is the same thing
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: as him coming in twenty eighteen. It's a it's a reset.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: None of this twenty twenty one bullshit that was five
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: years ago. He needs to start off at zero. Same
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: thing if it's Kante. But you know, Conte, I don't
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: think he was a guy that really relied on certain players.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: He kind of just, you know, May did what May
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: do with what he had. But he beat Belgium with
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Pele and Jack Urini starting right, and not not the
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Brazilian Pella, the Italian not as good kind.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: So really not as good. Yeah.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: So you know, for me, if it's not gonna be Gordeola,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: it's either it's either Mancini or Conte. Uh. But you know,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: if if it is, why I like Guardelos so much,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: it's it's a new fresh mindset, right. It's a guy
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: coming in with different ideas, a different background, but he
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: also knows the Italian game, like I said, and also
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: he's gonna respect it and bring in that Spanish influence.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: He's also a guy that has had we know, he's
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: he's one of the most successful managers ever. He's has
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: success in both in Germany with Byron and in England
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: with UH with Manchester City and Barcelona as well even
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: before that, so uh, proven track record, even more so
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: then Andrew Pirlo for sure. But we'll see, these are
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: all rumors. We'll talk I hope it's soon because it
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: does play in the Nations League in September. International dates
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: are pushed back this year. It's later September, but it's
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: still soon, right. I understand there's a World Cup. I
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: understand it's the offseason, but things are kicking up again.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Training camp is starting, you know. I saw Uve was
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: posting stuff today, So I'd like to see a coaching
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: announcement soon. And you know what, someone who who will
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: also have an influence on the youth coaches, and I
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: think that's where we're talking the unison, right, Yeah, you
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: know you work with you know, this guy is the chet.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: He works with Maldini and they work with the youth
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: coaches and then kind of bring a unified system up
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: from the youth levels. And I could picture Guadiola having that.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: He has a very specific way of playing, he has
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: a very specific mindset, and if he could transmit onto
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: that other coaches, I think it will be a success.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's listen right now, I think it's uh,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: it's a it's a dream. Uh. You know, it seems
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: to be like a dream higher for for many people,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: it's like a pipeline dream, right, So it's it's I
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: think it's a bit far currently as as we're recording
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: tonight Monday night. But uh, if you list into the
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: reports and even what Malago said, he had a quote,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of kind of commenting on on on
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: potential Guardio, uh, you know, coaching Italy, you know, saying
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: how how big of a difference it would be and
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: you know, a dream and and how much of an
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: impact he could make. But for me, I don't know,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: because it's a tough one for me because he like
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: obviously listening to like you said, track record is all there, right. Uh.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: You some will say he revolutionized football, you know, for
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: for forever, right, good or bad of however you want
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: to look at it. Uh, you know, it is what
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: it is there, But I don't know, Like for me,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: like I could see it, but at the same time,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: on the on the opposite side of it, like we're
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: not Spain, it was just not Spain, we don't play
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: that way. It's gonna take I think even more for
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: everybody to be on the same page with a Guardiola figure.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: As as as the national team coach not saying it's
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: a bad thing. I just think it might take more
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: time in doing so now do we have that time
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: to to to give. I think we have almost no choice.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, I think, you know, he
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: can bring a lot of positive too. For me, it's
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: I'm on the fence with Guardiola because for all the
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: good he can bring, you can turn around and say,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, the devil's advocate and on the
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: opposite of the coin and you can say, well, you know,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: there's there's there's different aspects to to his coaching style
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: and the way he plays football that we just don't
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: potentially have, you know, in Italy currently, where we still
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: have to develop those types of players, Like we haven't
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: played with a ten since since who, Like who was
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: our last ten?
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to count in senior not.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Really, I guess, but he was more of a winger.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I know he could play as that cam role or
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: that ten role that funt assta roll I get it.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: But our our last true ten, like I don't know, Yeah,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Cassano DOUGHTI like the Buerrero like, like we're going back,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: is what I'm trying to get at. We haven't played
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: with that style and listen, obviously he uh he coached
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: you know, arguably the best ever do it in Messi
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: right at Barcelona and and as that three roaming ten
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: and uh, you know, just being that funtasista. And he
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: obviously played with the best Italian player of all time
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: atle Bit the Bado right uh Brescia, so you know
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: that you know he he knows the league and and
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying he doesn't. And I don't want to
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: sound like all negative on the Guardiola thing, but I
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: don't know if you put the I don't know if
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: you bet the house on on on on him. Like
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: at the same time, like I think we do have
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: to really weigh out all the options. But what uh,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: what what kind of pisses me off is that the
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: rumors of of of the and the reports that we're
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: seeing of potential coaches that our candidates currently are a
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: far fetched dream of of Guardiola and then managers that
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: we've already had for the national team. So what kind
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: of bothers me is that we want this change, and
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: we're going to potentially get this change, and now this
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Maldini move hints that we're going to you know, push
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: this change, Gravina out and and all this good and
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: all this other stuff. But we're going back to potentially
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: coaches that coaches in the past, So it's either are
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: we going back or are we saying you know what,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: we're turning the page. Finally, this this this nightmare is
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: finally over, this chapter is finally over, and we're starting fresh.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: And that means fresh. That doesn't mean bringing back Mancini,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: that doesn't mean bringing back Antonio Conte, that doesn't mean
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: bringing back Dare I say is named Ventuda, right, like?
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Why like, are we going forward or are we staying
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: where we are? That's kind of like what kind of
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: bothers me as what we're seeing as the candidates, and
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: then you throw in today a potential under their paygoal,
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: which is another for me. Obviously love him as a player, absolutely,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: like I did Catuzzo, like I do obviously Maldini and
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: all these other people, but we have to be realized,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: like is that the path we're going to go on?
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: People will say back when he was at juve eid
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: and I agree that he was probably go sooner than
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: he should have been after winning a super copa Winnala.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: I get that, you know that it probably helped that
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: he had the best play or one of the best
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: players of all time in Christiano on the roster right,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: but you know not not to not to go down
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: that path. But what's the what's what's the track record?
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: He's been hopping every year to a different to a different,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: a different club. So, uh, it doesn't look too good
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: And I don't think he's the I wouldn't see him
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: as the face of the revolution really, if you want
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: to really say it, I guess it would be with
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: the candidates at stake. I think the the face of
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: the revolution, even though it's a far fest dream is
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: probably a guy like Guardiola because he's he's revolutionized things before.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: But that's so that's kind of what bothers me with
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: like we're going back with Conte or Mancini, Like didn't
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: we well, the Conte won, that was a different time,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: I would say, just because it's it's what already ten
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: years ago right that we haven't seen him with the
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: national team, and the way he left in the way
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: without all that transpire was a bit of a weird
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: one for me. Even back then, if if, if, if
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: we're really honest with ourselves, different obviously, uh uh president
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: at the time to Vectio was was was around so
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: it was just a weird time with Italian football. Uh So,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know if there's one. I could probably see
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Antonio Contik like coming back and and because you know
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: with him, like he'll do he'll make do with what
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: with whatever, Like he doesn't he doesn't need like yes,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: in club football, he needs his players and he needs
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: this and he needs that. But like I think he
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: can he can do something with with with with a
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: lot less, let's say, but I think he has some
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: quality to work with if he were to be you know,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: the coach. So and for Mancini again like like thank
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: you for what you did in the past. We we
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: obviously sow you. We celebrate like we had it celebrated
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: in many many years, obviously in December of twenty one
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: for Euro twenty to twenty. But to your point, Nick,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: like I agree hundred percent, like he's gonna if he
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: is the coade because there's a lot of there's a
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: lot of like DeMar So I was seeing like some
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: other like reports we're saying that he's probably like the
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: candidate like on the top of the list that can
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: potentially get announced in the next few days even next week.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: So if that's the route, we're gonna end up going
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: to your point, Nick, He's gonna have to realize that
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: there's no more screwing around. There's no more fuck ups,
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: there's no more uh relying on your old guard, there's
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: no more uh you know, uh clinging onto Yeah, but
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: we won year twenty and twenty one. There's no more that,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Like there really has to be no more of that,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: just because now we we really are starting fresh from
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: president of the FGC to technical director with uh you know,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: of the federation as well with Paul Malti there. So
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: he's gonna have to realize if again, if he gets
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: he gets appointed man coach, it's it's it's today and
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: into tomorrow. It's no longer looking in the past. So
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: I can see an argument with all these coaches that
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: are being besides the random one of of of Puero today.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: I just hope that doesn't. We don't will we don't
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: wake up in the next few days and say, yeah,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Puroo is the next coach of the national team. I
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: just hope not. Even though we love the guy, he
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: was an idol of ours. He forever thank you for
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: what you've done for for for for culture. But with
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: the candidates at stake right now, it's going to have
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: to be between the three heads, you know, uh, Guardiola,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Mancini and Conte. If you at the rank, you would
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: say what you would say, Guardiola won, and then where
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: would you go after me?
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: After and then Conte and then and then okay, so
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: like my zero Roco plus no, no, I'll put Rockco
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: plush util ahead of my deal and then I'll.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I might even throw my nonline there too, just
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: for just for ships and giggles. But no, like for me,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know, Like for me, it's really tough,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: like to add the candidates because like they don't I
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: don't know, Like I'm kind of just on the fence
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: with all of them. So if I had to rank,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: I would probably say, I don't know. I would probably
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: say Conte one, Guardiola two, Manchini three, if I'm honest,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: just because I think we know what we get with
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Conte and I think he would be Actually, no, I
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: you know what, I I take that back. I'm gonna put.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna put. I'll probably stick with what you said
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: actually just because but I would throw in I would
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: say I would say that the the the biggest goal
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: is probably Guardiola next. The only reason why I would
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: choose I just thought of it. The only reason why
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I would choose Mancini over or over Conte in international
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: for the long haul because this this would have to
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: go for the long haul. That's number one, because we
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: know Conte. It's it's always something like there's always something
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: wrong after two three years. But at the same time,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: what I did like of Mancini is that he kind
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: of he besides his old guard he did throw in
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: He did throw in some some some some youth uh
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: into it as well. You know, he gave guys shots.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: He went like he didn't he wasn't like I know,
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: SPELECTI gave chances to players obviously, like and stuff like that,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: but like he would say, yeah, merit based call ups.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Oh we're going in this direction and we didn't really
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: see it transpire. Mancini definitely gave people a chance. If
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: you liked it or not, that's a different story. But yeah,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: so I would I would still say, like you, I
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: would probably stick what you're saying. But even if I
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: would throw out Guardiola, I'd probably say Mancini or Conte.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, for me, no
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: matter how you rank these things, it's it's really a
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: toss up of how of how it can really transpire,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: because like with with the matches already happening in two
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: months time, what are we going to really what's what's
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: the state of the national team going to look like
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: from now until September twenty fifth or whenever they play.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: I don't even remember. I think it's the twenty fifth. Yeah,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Like there's a lot to be had in these next
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: two months. So like, what do we look like in
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: two months time? I don't know. I guess that all
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: depends on who's going to get appointed and how fast
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: they're going to be able to implement whatever changes they
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: can in this short amount of time. So whoever it is,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: is going to have to be willing and going to
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: have to be given the time and be willing to
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: take the hits and the hiccups and the obstacles along
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: the way. Because realistically, Nick, if we talk, if we
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: look at this in two months time, what could truly
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: get done? In my eyes, not very much. I don't
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: know about you what you think, but it's.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: A long you said, it's a long term, you know,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: short term? I do think. I think I asked you
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: a goal, Go and win the Nations League. I know
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: it's a minor trophy, Go to win it. They haven't
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: won it. Portugal is happy when they won it two
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: years ago or sorry last year. Yeah, go to win it.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: And it helps for rankings. It helps also for the
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Euro twenty twenty eight qualification. Look, if Italy had beat
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Germany in the quarterfinals of the last Nations League, they
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have been in the group with Norway. They would
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: have played one less team in the World Cup qualifiers.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Who knows they could have won that group.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: So a lot of it. Yeah, you know what the
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: nation we don't put importance in it, but it's.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: It means something. Yeah you know, maybe okay, maybe if
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: you get to the final, use the final, whatever. But
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: getting past the quarterfinal it's important because then it helps
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: future for the Euro qualifying. But Adrian, before we wrap
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: it up, look World Cup four teams left England, France, Spain, Argentina.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Look these are four teams that in maybe in the
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: past fifteen years or so, each went through rough patches
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: and maybe Spain a bit less. But even then in
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, I think they were ranked twelve and that
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: was the lowest they've ever been in all For these teams,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: even despite the rough patches, they bounce back right. Look,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: I think France is a good example. They were such
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: a strong team in two thousands once the down left,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: they had so many problems, and then they come to
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: euro twenty sixteen and since then they've been such a
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: strong team. You could say England as well. So I
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: think Italy needs to use these teams as inspiration. But Adri,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: before we wrap it up, who's your favorite to win
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: the World Cup? Because for me, I think France is
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: the obvious choice. They're so good. But look, Spain is
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: such a good team as well. I do think that
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: one game is so unpredictable, but you know, I hate
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: to say it, and I did say it for the
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: World Cup England. There's something about this English team. I
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: think they're kind of riding high.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: It's maybe you called the Wonderwall high. I don't know,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: but I don't know. They have something about them. But
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: the boat was rocked with some post match interviews between
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Bellingham and Tucle and Argentina, it seems like they're just
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: playing with fire at this point, with all these extra
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: time wins. But I do think it'll be England in
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: the final. Whether it's Spain or France, it's a bit undecided.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I do think the trophy is going back to Europe
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: though it's it's it's exciting. But I will say about
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: the World Cup, it the fact that the top four
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: ranked teams have gone through. It's sometimes you want to
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: see some upsets. So football has been good, but you
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: know at this point it's now it's clash of the giants.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Anything can happen between now and Sunday, and it's exciting
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: and one day I hope it'll least back in this position.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well it starts now. I guess fairly right obviously
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: with the whole topic that we had tonight. But what
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: do I like, Listen, I'm gonna get hate probably for it.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: I'm whin our for Argentina, like I don't give a
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: fuck like which people say, people can bash me, I
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: really don't care. Uh, it's it's it's it's it seems
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: to be like they have the biggest target on their
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: back now just because of of whatever hate you want
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: to have and whatever bias it is and what we're seeing.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Fair fair, sure, I and there's there's all merited points
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: and all that stuff. I'm going for them, you know,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: just for the Italian lineage, just for you know, you know,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: my non as a cousin, one of her cousins out there.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: There's some family out there, so uh, you know, for me,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: that's kind of where I'm leaning. It's gonna be a
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: rematch of of of last edition. For me, it's it's
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: going to be France, it's gonna be Argentina in the final.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, again, the top four ranked teams before
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: the tournament, like you said, are in the are in
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: the in the semis right currently the last four remaining teams,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: So maybe you can scratch your head up bit on that.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's kind of what happens when you
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: haven't expanded expanded World Cup, please God know, sixty four
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: teams like Infantino, I don't know. Maybe he's the next
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: guy who West will go. I don't know, like he
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: might be the next.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Guy to back bro.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know what one, which one's worst. They can
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: all shake hands. I don't know, Like it's it's been
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: it's a bit disgusting, Like if you ask me in
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: terms of how greedy and how you know, corrupt and
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: all this stuff has gotten too But that's a different
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: discussion for a different day. If we see sixty four teams,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: we still might not make it. But hopefully with the
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: news of today or the last few days, whatever it's,
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: it's on a better path. But yeah, going back to
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: the original question, I think it's gonna be France Argentina.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Argentina winning. I know that's gonna
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: ruffle a lot of feathers. Everybody pretends that they're a
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: French fan. Now all of a sudden and everybody goes
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: for France. I don't see the like listen to the
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: best team that we have to give it to them. Absolutely,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: they're they're the they're the best team. They're that offense
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: is just that's as if you're going on FC twenty
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: six and you're just doing career mode and you're doing
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: your you're you're you're you're buying all the best players
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: and you have a limited budget and and all that.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: But unfortunately, this is international football, and you know, they
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: just have the luck of having a lot of representatives
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: for their nation and that are that are top players
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: in the world. So I think it's gonna add it's
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: gonna be uh, you know, a rematch of twenty twenty two.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Do I see a different outcome in there? I'm for
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: my personal bias or not biased, but just who who
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: I would rather see? I would rather see Argentina. Maybe
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: it's Gonn where we live to, I don't know, but uh,
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: because over here it's gonna be uh, it's gonna be
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: able to zoo if France wins, right, So I'd rather
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: see Argentino in just for the sanity of our city.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: But but yeah, it's France is the top the best team,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: which which kind of shocked me, is that I and
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: again you kind of just lose track of throughout these tournaments,
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: of of of what happened sometimes. But you know, it's
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Spain's first semi final appearance since they won it in
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: twenty ten, which I found only their second ever, only
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: their second ever too, on top of it, which again
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: just kind of maybe again you get lost in all this.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Sometimes they just kind of blew my mind a bit.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: I was like, you hadn't won a game. They were
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: like Italy they had anco game, Yeah, right, I think
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: with Germany they haven't won Anco game since twenty fourteen.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: I agree, yeah, and you know those like these types
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: of nations have to be on top. And I've seen
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: a quick clip from the Footy Culture. I think it
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: was Jay that had posted it or was talking about
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: if I'm not mistake, you know, these top nations have
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: to be doing well for international football to be at
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: a peak level, like we cannot see like that's that
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: like in my head, like should never exist, right like
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: it really not making three World Cup should never exist,
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: like Brazil should in the bed this tournament. That shouldn't exist,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: right like some of these things Germany, like some of
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: their problems they went had problems fixed them. Now it
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: seems to be a bit on limbo land. These things
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: shouldn't exist, right like, So you know, it is what
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: it is, but it's just again shocking to me to
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: think that. But I think they're gonna have a tough
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: time against against France, Like the game against Belgium was
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: their first goal that they conceded all tournament in that
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: in that matchup, which again I didn't pay much I
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: guess attention to Spain in this tournament, but that was
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: shocking to me as well. There was it was their
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: first goal conceded. It's gonna take a lot to mitigate
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: that France attack because on a dime and Bob is
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: going to score them. Meli is going to score. Always
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: is going to put in a through ball for somebody
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: who's gonna score, right, like you know, Barcola, right du way,
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Like the names are endless with this team. So I
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: think that's gonna be tough. If they're gonna have If
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Spain's hoping that they're gonna be able to mitigate that
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: that that France attack, good luck, they might have. Excuse me,
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: they might have one of the possessions Spain, which they
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: usually do, but their final their final product hasn't been
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: like crazy output compared to to France. So that's why
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: I see France advancing. And then I honestly I just
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: think like it or not. Then controversial or not, because
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: everybody looks up the controversy and the negative in things,
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: which is sad, is a sad reality in life currently.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: But you know, Argentina has found a way to do it,
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: you know, in all these games. And you know, as
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: much as belling them is on fire, as much as
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: hurricanes on fire, in my opinion, they're still not messy, right,
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: They're just they're just not a messy right, like even
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: at thirty nine years old, they're just not that player.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: The way for them to win, I think is for
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: them to to put away Argentina, because these teams that
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: have kind of gone toe to toe with them haven't
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: put them away. They let them creep back up in
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: the match. So you know, people were gonna stay in
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: the Egypt game, right, like all the controversy, oh they
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: should they should have, they should have won whatever this
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: and that, they didn't put them away. I'm sorry they
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: shot the bed. They didn't put them away. They let
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Argentina have a lifeline, and they did what. They scored
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: two goals in five minutes or ten under ten minutes
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: whatever it was seven minutes, I don't remember. I think
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: it was five minutes. They had scored two goals.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I forget.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: I think so Messi had a goal in and assist
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: in five or six minutes.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: It's three goals in thirteen or fourteen exactly right.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: So they didn't put them away. You know, even the
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: round before, whoever they who they played the round before.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't blame very as long as granted, granted, right,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: but again they they pushed them, They pushed them the distance.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Right they they really they really did that. And again
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: a better team will put should be able to put
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: them away, you know, kind of kind of how England
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: put away Norway like that could have went a different way,
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: you know. So I think that's that's the way that
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: England I think can beat Argentina is if they do
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: find a way to put them away, uh, you know,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: early enough for for for them not to have enough
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: time to come back. But again, like you know, they're
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: gonna like they're gonna have to rely on on billing
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: them and Kane to really to really really do well.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: But and their defense is gonna have Argentina's defense gonna
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: have to step up because those are two, those are
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: two you know, big players for England. But again in
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: saying all this, I know I rambled on a bit,
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: But in saying all this, I do think it's gonna
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: be a rematch of twenty twenty two. I just hope,
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: for for my sanity and just our city is Saturday,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: that Argentina wins again. But but if it's a rematch,
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be another I think I would think it's
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: gonna be another thrilling, thrilling match because that game and
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, some will say and many will argue
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: that it was the best World Cup final in ever
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: if not, yeah, right, like you know, if not recent
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: times ever, right. So if we see another one of those,
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of neutral fans will be uh
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: will be happy for that. But again it remains to
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: be seen. Tomorrow we see the first the first finalist,
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: and then Wednesday will see the next. So buckle off
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: for that. And it's been a it's been an interesting
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know a lot of people are hating
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: on it, you know, people in our group chats or
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: people and what not, just online in general. A lot
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: of people are hating on the tournament. Listen, I'm not
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: a fan of the forty eight teams, but there's been
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: some exciting moments. I do have to say it's been
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: somewhat exciting. I think more I think I'm I was
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: more excited, not excited, but I was a bit surprised
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: of how things were gonna look. I've been pleasantly surprised
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: for certain aspects of things. There's been some exciting games
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: like don't that's not, that's not, that's not Let's not
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: be all fucking negative all the time. Like, there's been
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: some exciting matchups, there's been some exciting games, some some
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: some storylines that you know, we uh do you know
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: that we're just like never would have thought would have happened.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Obviously with the forty eight teams, this does happen. I
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: would go back to what we had in the past.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see any more expansion, but insane
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: that with the first edition of this expansion, I think
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: there's been some some sort of exciting moments with the
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: quality always maybe not, but the controversy was always there
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: sometimes yes, sometimes at all, but it is what it is.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: But yeah, Franz Argentina, Argentina wins. You said, what England
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: wins or France.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: I'm still gonna go with France. I'm gonna go with
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: the favorites. Seems like this tournament has just been winning,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go with them. But honestly, at this
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: point four strong teams, anybody could win, including New England.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I you know, I'm excited for the two
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: games tomorrow and Wednesday and Sunday as well, and I
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: hope that final is as good as the one in
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, because that twenty twenty two was final
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: was the best soccer game I've ever watched. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: that's it.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's well, let's see what happens. But it's
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: just crazy how the tournament's I know, it's with the
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: more games that you know, kind of maybe dragged on
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: a bit longer, but it's already almost over, and it's
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: it seems like it's crazy. But one this page turns,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: it's back to back to club football, back to back
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: to culture. So that's exciting too, because, like you said earlier,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: we saw some of the teams getting back into preseason
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: uh camps and stuff like that. Like you said, you've me,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: I saw whatever their team lots so and and and such.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, uh, I think they'll do it for
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: for us.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: I think the whole longer.
• 1:01:26
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• 1:01:28
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• 1:01:31
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• 1:01:33
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• 1:01:35
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