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Furness Show 5-29: Luke Falk, Danny O'Neil, Mariners-Diamondbacks preview · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Well, let's just get going, man.
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  Speaker 2: Huh.
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  Speaker 1: We got a special guest in studio. Jessmin's mad. She's
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  Speaker 1: not here, she's on vacation. We've been talking about doing
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  Speaker 1: this for a while. We've had him on a couple
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  Speaker 1: of times over the last couple of years, since he's
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  Speaker 1: kind of evolved from being a player into post football life,
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  Speaker 1: which includes a ton of things. I'd just like to
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  Speaker 1: introduce him as the all time leading passer in the
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  Speaker 1: Pacific twelve Conference, the Conference of Champions as Bill Walton
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  Speaker 1: calls it. Luke Falk is here today. Also, he was
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  Speaker 1: the guy that kind of held Sam Donald's hands, helped
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  Speaker 1: him through his first years in the NFL before he
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  Speaker 1: went on to win a Super bowlast year. How do
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  Speaker 1: you doing, buddy, how's it going. I'm doing well. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: for having me. Great to have you here, buddy, It's
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  Speaker 1: good to see you. What are you in town for.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we got a little Koog's first event, So anybody
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  Speaker 3: that's free tonight and a kug want to come out
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  Speaker 3: and support. It's downtown Seattle. I can't give you the
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  Speaker 3: exact address for us, yeah, but in for that event,
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna be a fun one. Being able to support
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  Speaker 3: Koug's businesses and just get together with small teammates and
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  Speaker 3: have a good time.
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  Speaker 4: I love it. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get into a little bit with we had you
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  Speaker 1: on right after the Seahawks signed Darnold last year and
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  Speaker 1: all joking aside, you were with him in New York.
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  Speaker 4: I think, God.
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  Speaker 1: When was it was that the were you the quarterback
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  Speaker 1: the Friday night game when he was a quarterback in Pullman?
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  Speaker 2: We beat him?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was twenty seventeen. Yeah, stripsack at the end. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry. I'm sorry to bring that up, Stam,
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  Speaker 1: But you know, listen, you won a super Bowl. You's fine. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's fine. He's got a Rose Bull, he's got a
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  Speaker 1: super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: You think he's okay. I think he's all right. We
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  Speaker 3: needed that one, you know, he did.
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  Speaker 1: But you played against him obviously in college and then
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  Speaker 1: teammates in New York. Will get to that a little
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  Speaker 1: bit later because your insight on him, it all came
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  Speaker 1: to fruition. What a good guy he is, What a
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  Speaker 1: good player. I want to talking about him as a
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  Speaker 1: player because one of the things I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: to about a little bit later on from Seahawks fans
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  Speaker 1: standpoint is I don't think he gets his just due
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  Speaker 1: as how good he is the offensive player in the
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  Speaker 1: league last year in the NFL Offensive Player of the
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  Speaker 1: Year is a wide receiver for the Seahawks that he
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  Speaker 1: had to throw to like Jays. Is not winning that
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  Speaker 1: award without looking without without Sam Donald the before I
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  Speaker 1: get to all the tell people what you're up to
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  Speaker 1: these days, and you get the book out, the Mind
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  Speaker 1: Strength Playbook, But what what is Luke Falk doing these days?
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  Speaker 5: Well?
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  Speaker 3: Shoot, I was trying to figure that out for a
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  Speaker 3: long long time. But you know, I'm my mind strength coach,
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  Speaker 3: so I help athletes coaches with the mental part of
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  Speaker 3: the game. And then it's really evolved into the business
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  Speaker 3: world as well. There's a lot of leadership principles and
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  Speaker 3: things that I think transfer over into that. And then
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  Speaker 3: I love being an author. I love writing some stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I got some things and pieces that I put out
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  Speaker 3: on social media and it's really my gauge for future books. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: is this an idea that people resonate with? And it's
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  Speaker 3: been it's been really fun, so just figuring it out.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think a lot of athletes and people
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  Speaker 3: when they've poured their identity into something. They kind of go, hey,
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  Speaker 3: so now what what's going to be the next thing?
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  Speaker 3: And galley, I've had about seven jobs since I was
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  Speaker 3: done playing, and I think I found my footing.
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  Speaker 1: Finally, you talk about the mind strength, it's the weight
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  Speaker 1: room for your for you you explain that, Yeah, if
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  Speaker 1: you like and you know you as an athlete, you
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  Speaker 1: work your body out, you have kind of a physical regimen,
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  Speaker 1: but a lot of athletes miss the mark when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to the mental part of the game. So this
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  Speaker 1: is like just being able to take them to the
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  Speaker 1: weight room for their mind. You know, when you get
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  Speaker 1: down to crunch time situations, it's not really that somebody
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  Speaker 1: didn't perform their best because they didn't have the physical talent, Right,
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  Speaker 1: That's what gets you in the door. What it comes
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  Speaker 1: down to is, you know, did you have the ability
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  Speaker 1: to piece it together mentally. I look at the best
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  Speaker 1: games that I played, Hey, I was I was on point,
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  Speaker 1: I was locked in, I was in a different headspace.
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  Speaker 1: And then you know the games that we played, like
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  Speaker 1: even unfortunately some of those Apple Cups. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: just wasn't in a great headspace going to those games.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't do the things that I needed to do and
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  Speaker 1: then obviously didn't play well. And that's why I'm in
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  Speaker 1: the Husky Hall of Fame, I think for having more touchdowns,
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  Speaker 1: so then them than gigs in those games. Unfortunately, that's okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's what we ever, what forgives you that regard? Along
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  Speaker 1: the way, Luke Folk is here again the all time
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  Speaker 1: leading passer in the Pac twelve. But frankly, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's it's and we're gonna get into this a
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  Speaker 1: little bit too. Probably a record will never get broken
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  Speaker 1: because most of the time guys aren't going to say
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  Speaker 1: at the same school for four years, much less the
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  Speaker 1: same conference. So we'll get to that in a little
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  Speaker 1: bit as well. Go back to your time in the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: and you were a late round draft pick, but you
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  Speaker 1: you carved out some years in the NFL. You were there,
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  Speaker 1: and that's doing something most people can't say they did.
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  Speaker 1: You took snaps, you were started.
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  Speaker 4: For a while.
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  Speaker 1: What did you learn from those experiences that have helped
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  Speaker 1: you with the book and your new career in terms
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  Speaker 1: of all that, because I'm sure you took a lot
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  Speaker 1: of that, both good and bad. Even like you said,
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  Speaker 1: with the apple cup and translates into what you're doing now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well it's been It's been a good process for
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  Speaker 3: me because I can look back on my career from
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  Speaker 3: a different perspective now, and I think a lot of
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  Speaker 3: it is just more like kind of the taking ownership
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  Speaker 3: piece of it. You know, I started my career off
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  Speaker 3: as a walk on yep, and you don't have a
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  Speaker 3: lot of opportunities. Yet I was in a great headspace
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  Speaker 3: because I looked for and I found solutions. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I took ownership. I was very grateful for the opportunities
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  Speaker 3: that I did have. And then I got to the
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  Speaker 3: NFL and it's like I had this success in college
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  Speaker 3: and it really started to creep in my senior year
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  Speaker 3: and I allowed what I call the trappings of success
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  Speaker 3: to kind of get to me and that entitlement. I
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  Speaker 3: didn't work as hard. I didn't do the things that
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  Speaker 3: had gotten me to that point. And nobody has enough
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  Speaker 3: talent if you're not working on the things that had
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  Speaker 3: gotten to that point. And then I got to the
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  Speaker 3: NFL and it's like, well, they're not ever going to
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  Speaker 3: give me an opportunity, and you know, I slid in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL draft. Sure, if I left after my junior year,
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  Speaker 3: people said I could have been a second or third
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  Speaker 3: round er. Well, I didn't have a great senior year,
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  Speaker 3: had some riff raft going on and getting benched to
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  Speaker 3: multiple times, and then fell down to the sixth round,
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  Speaker 3: And instead of being grateful for the opportunity, I was
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  Speaker 3: more so bitter, angry, embarrassed and titled that type of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And then I got the NFL and I carried that
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  Speaker 3: mentality with me And it wasn't until I started writing
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  Speaker 3: this book and having and coaching kids that I realized
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh wow, I really fell into a terrible headspace.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's the biggest thing, is just being
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  Speaker 3: able to see the tail of two careers. And it
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  Speaker 3: had nothing to do with my talent. I wasn't very
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  Speaker 3: talented to start with, But it had everything to do
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  Speaker 3: with my headspace and the work I put into it.
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  Speaker 1: How much pressure is on young people these days, especially
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  Speaker 1: in terms of athletics, and it's changed a lot. I
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  Speaker 1: mean I've talked to Mark and Kim about this, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean with the Lensky's Hope stuff, is that like
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  Speaker 1: they started this before the even the NIL era started
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  Speaker 1: but now, like what they'll tell me is that today's
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  Speaker 1: world and again you were a walk on. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: get the story I think is fascinating with you and
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  Speaker 1: walking On and the Pirate and everything else there. But
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  Speaker 1: how much pressure when you're talking to young people and
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  Speaker 1: even parents exist today because it's not just about getting Hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a scholarship or I'm gonna go to
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  Speaker 1: play D one or wherever it's going to be. I'm
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  Speaker 1: also trying to get money and then in some cases
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  Speaker 1: support my family as well. I mean, that's I think
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  Speaker 1: that's the dark side of today's college athletics, and people
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  Speaker 1: forget it's all great. These kids are getting money and
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  Speaker 1: getting paid, and rightfully so if you're generating revenue, you
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  Speaker 1: should depending on what the app what the sport is.
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  Speaker 1: At the same time, Luke, I'm wondering how much pressure
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  Speaker 1: are we now putting on some of these young people
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  Speaker 1: because mom, dad and uncle, Hey, you got to you
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  Speaker 1: gotta go take the money here. You can't go there,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta go there and take more money.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you know, there's positives to it, and then
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  Speaker 3: I think there's a real big dark side. Like you said,
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  Speaker 3: I think you get a lot of people coming out
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  Speaker 3: of the woodwork, and the kid already had pressure on
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  Speaker 3: them before, because it's natural your family members, the people
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  Speaker 3: that you associate with, I mean, they really pour onto
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  Speaker 3: you like that's your identity, and they're really riding on
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  Speaker 3: you to kind of lift up everybody in regard. Now
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  Speaker 3: you add money into the factor and maybe if you're
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  Speaker 3: coming from a family that doesn't have much, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: they're pouring everything into you to get it done. And
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  Speaker 3: then and I also think too, there's just not a
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  Speaker 3: lot of resources for these kids when they do get paid,
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  Speaker 3: like they don't know that, Hey, this isn't a W
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  Speaker 3: two type deal. Your taxes aren't taken out for you.
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  Speaker 3: It's ten ninety nine, and what are you going to
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  Speaker 3: do with those? And Uncle Sam's gonna come and get
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  Speaker 3: his And then you know, there's so many Like in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL, there's structure, you have an NFLPA, You've got
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  Speaker 3: people that have been vetted by the NFL that are
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  Speaker 3: giving you advice in this regard. In college, it could
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  Speaker 3: be Uncle Rico who you haven't seen in five years,
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  Speaker 3: and you know it's like, or what's that water boy?
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Bobby A hug daddy.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you get some people like that coming in
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  Speaker 3: and trying to negotiate these deals, and it's like, it's
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  Speaker 3: just bad. You're gonna get people that are praying on
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  Speaker 3: kids and taking huge percentages out and stuff. So I
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  Speaker 3: just hope that they can be able to provide some
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  Speaker 3: resources for the kids in that regard. And then you know,
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  Speaker 3: social media doesn't help. Really, what's happening is all these kids,
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  Speaker 3: their identity is placed in it, and then you know,
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  Speaker 3: the college athletics and sports in general, it is designed
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  Speaker 3: for turnover. And when they're done, a lot of these
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  Speaker 3: kids just are reeling and dealing what am I do now?
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  Speaker 1: And they went from.
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  Speaker 3: Making a million bucks to being a mediocre player, you know,
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  Speaker 3: let's just call it what it is. And then they
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  Speaker 3: go into the real world. Hey, here's a job for
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  Speaker 3: eighty five thousand dollars they are and to have a
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  Speaker 3: hard time being able to recoup to that.
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  Speaker 1: That's hard. Luke falkin studio with us. Could Luke Falk
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  Speaker 1: that story exist in today's college football. I'm gonna say no.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, I actually when I work with some athletes
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  Speaker 3: and they're thinking about walking on I say, well, I
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  Speaker 3: think walking on the path, this you know in this
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  Speaker 3: era is go play at a smaller school, play well,
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  Speaker 3: and then move up, because I just think players and
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  Speaker 3: coaches they're constantly looking at other universities now, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: you get a guy like me who's unproven and walking
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  Speaker 3: on and paying his own way, you're not gonna play him.
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna go out and you're gonna go find somebody
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  Speaker 3: for two million bucks to come in or replace him.
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  Speaker 3: And the only way you're gonna get on the field
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  Speaker 3: to have that happen is if they get injured and
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  Speaker 3: just the stars kind of aligned, which that happened in
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  Speaker 3: my career as well, like things had to happen, but
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  Speaker 3: it was even easier at that time, and it wasn't
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  Speaker 3: easy then. So I just think I think now it's
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  Speaker 3: is it impossible, No, but is it highly unlikely?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely? I don't know if there's I'm assuming there's a
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  Speaker 1: good story just because of the coach involved. When we
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  Speaker 1: talked about Mike before the late great Mike Price and
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  Speaker 1: by the way, nominated for the College Football Hall of Fame,
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  Speaker 1: I think they got past the little sixty percent nonsense,
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  Speaker 1: which is the dumbest thing in the world the College
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  Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. If like they had a six
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  Speaker 1: percent winning percent, she's fifty nine point nine or something,
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  Speaker 1: and which basically takes any coach that built a program
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  Speaker 1: up out right like it's just done. But he should
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  Speaker 1: be in there this year, which will be awesome and
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  Speaker 1: well deserved. So he's a quarterback guy, he's an offensive guy.
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  Speaker 1: You're coming out your walk on? How did the whole
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  Speaker 1: walk on thing go for you? How did it start?
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  Speaker 1: How was he as a walk you know, because you
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  Speaker 1: go from being a walk on from Mike Leach to
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  Speaker 1: his most productive quarterback maybe he ever had.
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  Speaker 3: I think Graham and a number of other grand heard
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  Speaker 3: probably a lot better than I was, but you know
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  Speaker 3: it just the thing that was great about Leach is
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  Speaker 3: you always.
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  Speaker 1: Knew where you stood with him.
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  Speaker 3: So in the recruiting process, it wasn't like blowing smoke
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  Speaker 3: up my putt. All it was is it's gonna be hard,
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  Speaker 3: but we're going to give you an opportunity. And that
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  Speaker 3: was really the recruiting pitch. And then the other thing
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  Speaker 3: is like I had the desire I wanted to get
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  Speaker 3: into college coaching after and be a football coach, and
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  Speaker 3: he just said, hey, look at my tree. You come here,
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  Speaker 3: you learn this, You're like, you're gonna be on a
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  Speaker 3: good path. So those two things really sold me. And
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  Speaker 3: then I went to Pullman, and I'm a small town kid.
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  Speaker 3: I just loved it and it was it was done,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, fortunately we had the means to be
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  Speaker 3: able to go and pay our people. Ask me if
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  Speaker 3: I'm bitter about NIL, I'm not. The only recommendation I
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  Speaker 3: have now is if you were a walk on, whatever
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  Speaker 3: you invested in the university, maybe you get your money back.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. So that's that's gonna be my
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  Speaker 1: NIL deal.
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  Speaker 4: I like that.
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  Speaker 2: I do like it.
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  Speaker 1: When you first met Mike, what was it like?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 1: What was he because I mean, we've all a lot
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  Speaker 1: of us have dealt with him, but a lot of
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  Speaker 1: fans just see him from Afar or see the sound
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  Speaker 1: bites and the clips and so forth. When you first
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  Speaker 1: met him as a young guy, you're eighteen nineteen years old, however,
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  Speaker 1: you were coming out of Utah, You're like, this is
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  Speaker 1: Mike Leach, a legendary, bigger than life figure. What was
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: it like when you first met him? It's pretty surreal,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 3: My senior year we went all over the country trying
• 11:41
  Speaker 3: to just hit up colleges and get seen and all that.
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  Speaker 3: And the book that we were listening to, I can't
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  Speaker 3: say all over the country is really the West Coast.
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  Speaker 1: The book we're listening to is Swing Your Sword.
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  Speaker 3: And just being able to hear his story and all
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  Speaker 3: that stuff, and then to be sitting in a room
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  Speaker 3: with him and him talking about just nonsense of like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: if you have wrinkles in your shirt and you're on
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  Speaker 3: the road, the best way is to put it in
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  Speaker 3: the bathroom and turn the turn the shower on as
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  Speaker 3: high as it can get close the door. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like listening to this guy and just I'm amazed.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just mesmerized, you know. And then you know, by
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  Speaker 3: year five, I'm like, all right, coach, I've heard this story.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go on to the next one. Is he one
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  Speaker 1: of those guys that you're sitting there and the story
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  Speaker 1: comes up again anyway, like and you've like, wait, I
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  Speaker 1: think I heard that my sophomore year and my junior year.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, And then like the exactly ty Tyler
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  Speaker 3: and the you know, Tyler Rolensky was like king at
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  Speaker 3: this too, because he knew, I'd get so pissed off
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  Speaker 3: because Leech, if anybody didn't know, Leech has Leech time,
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  Speaker 3: and twenty minutes late. That's about being on time for him.
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  Speaker 3: And then practice we would start practice about thirty minutes
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  Speaker 3: always late. And I'm this guy that was type A.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to be able to get my shoulder warmed up.
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  Speaker 3: I had this protocol I wanted to follow. Well, that
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  Speaker 3: never happened because we went out to practice late. And
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  Speaker 3: so when Leech started going down a certain story that
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  Speaker 3: I've heard for the fourth or fifth time, Tyler with
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  Speaker 3: egg him on. He need ask these questions and then
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  Speaker 3: you know, so Tyler and Leech had a phenomenal relationship
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  Speaker 3: in that regard, and I'm just over like, come on,
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  Speaker 3: let's go like, so Tyler just he just yeah, just
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  Speaker 3: to get under my skin.
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  Speaker 1: So that's I don't want to go too dark here,
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  Speaker 1: but let's just I mean, you bring something like that up,
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  Speaker 1: and I hear about Tyler all the time. That probably
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  Speaker 1: speaks volumes of of how troubling this this type of
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  Speaker 1: thing is that suicide and mental health is because you
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: couldn't see anything like I hear stories like that, and
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: I hear about him, and I see the stuff with
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: Claudell and me the other day when he's at Montreal
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: and he's Canadian's a legend. He's doing like you don't
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: see anything there other than a smile on a guy's face. That,
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: to me, is is one of the scariest things that
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: we have to deal with with mental health mental health issues.
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, because you just I've said this before, Tyler
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: was a bubbly guy, at least from the outside looking in,
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: and you don't know what he's dealing with. And then
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: the thing that I've had a hard time wrestling with
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: is Tyler was my backup quarterbacks. We're competing to a
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: certain degree, and Tyler was doing a great job of
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: being able to rise the ranks stuff, and you know,
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: so when he passed away, I'm like, man, I didn't
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: treat Tyler probably the way that I should have.
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: Was there something I could have done?
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: And you just start going down all these certain scenarios
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: and it really made you know, I viewed everybody like
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: competition before, especially starting off as a walk on. You're
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: kind of just you know, you're not given much, so you're, hey,
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: I'm not giving anybody anything and then when that past,
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: when he passed, it was like, hey, we're all I mean,
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: we're all human beings, and it just put things in
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: perspective big time. And you know, even like with the
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: stuff I'm going on right now, I haven't shared it
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: too much, but you know, my mom's battled with some
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: mental health stuff and she went missing for thirty six
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: hours one time, and it's just been a it's been
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: a real ordeal. And when people see me, they think, hey,
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: he's doing fine and stuff, but they don't necessarily know
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: the things that are going on because you just don't
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: share that aspect of your life. And I just think,
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: you know, we all need each other. I think that
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: the golden rule treat others the way you want to
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: be treated as certainly something that should be followed, because
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: you just never know what somebody's going through. They could
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: look like they have it all, especially in the social
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: media world. Oh so and so is doing so great,
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: But really, I think we're all starving for connection, not
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: just likes, not just comments, not just praise. In this regard,
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: I think we're really looking for genuine connection. And I
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: think that's the thing that's kind of getting missed. But hopefully,
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: you know, we can come together and be able to
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: give that human basic need.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: Luke falk Here, I still agree with what you said.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: I think it's hard because when you're in I think
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: even especially if you're in any sort of the public
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: eye and so forth, and people see you and yes,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: whether it's social media or they hear you, or they
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: see you on TV, or you're on a field or
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: a chord or ice rink participating singing. Your sisters were
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: incredible for a long time. We used to have falk
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Sisters Friday here. We played all their music when you
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: were at your pinnacle my old co host Jason Fucket
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: and I was awesome. And you see all that, but
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: all the things that are associated with that, you don't
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: see the end lining thing. I mean, I'll be honest.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: I'll tell people that I've said this a few days off.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: What was it Eron's about three weeks ago. I just
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: was done, couldn't do it, couldn't hit the on switch.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: And you know, went saw a doctor and just like
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: what's going on?
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: And part of it was just tired, right, like, oh,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: you talk sports, are a living, you do hockey TV
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: and all that. Yeah, sometimes you just burn out. Like
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: sometimes you're just not there, and it doesn't matter what
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: you do in life, right, you could do anything. You
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: could be you know, you could be out, you could
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: be the best. You just met some of our great salespeople.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: You could be one of those that's making money and
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: keeping a station afloat and you know, hitting all your
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: goals and getting all your bonuses, and you might not
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: feel right right, And I don't know, And I don't
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: know what the answer is other than probably talking about
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: it and talking to somebody, I guess that'll probably be
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: the answer.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: And I just think like people kind of view, especially
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: when you're on air or you're in a position where
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: you're kind of out open in the public, and they
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: just think it's like this flat line, like you're just
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: you're fine, especially you know, I look back at me
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: playing I was robotic, and that's kind of the front
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: I put on. People didn't understand the things that are
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: going on behind the scenes. And think about it, it's
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: like kind of the heart monitor, Like if you're just flatlined,
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: you're dead, and that's that's life. It's like you got
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: the highs and the lows, and you're gonna have those
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: ups and those downs, and I don't know the best
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: way to you know, be able to solve that problem
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: either besides talk and connect and be able to just
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: kind of share, because we all go through it.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: At some point.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: We're gonna have seasons in our lives where, you know,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: the all four towers get blown out and we need
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: we need some new we need well, yeah, some help
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: in that regard.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: I can see a pullman too, because, like we just
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: talked about, Tyler was massively talented, yeah, physically gifted, right,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: And so I mean you you're putting up these numbers,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: and you and Gabe and that offense were humming for
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: the most part, and you had some good running like
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: everything's going, but you probably had a guy behind you
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: in Tyler that was number three, was sitting there wanting
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: to be number one every every single day.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: That's a lot of pressure.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, you get to that level, and
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: especially like a guy like me, I wasn't talented anyways
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: going from there. But yeah, so I just think at
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: any it's like any field, right, you're a salesman, You've
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: gotten the quota. You think for me is about can
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: we work on the prehab side of things like I'm
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: an athlete, can I work on the prehab so that
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: I'm not having to do the rehab or having as
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: long a rehab period. Why can't we do that from
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: a mental standpoint. So that's that's part of the whole
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: mind Strength movement for me.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the book is the Mind Strength Playbook, and we'll
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: tell people how they can buy that too and get
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: it later. And it's it's fantastic. I started to thump
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: through a little bit. It's on my bedside table and
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: my wife actually, I think has already gone through it,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: so it's it's perfect.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I think about college athletes we're talking about when you
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: get to the NFL, how much is that enhanced, that
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: pressure and all that goes into it.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Well, I'd say it even more because in college you're
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: not getting cut unless you just do something that's absolutely stupid. Now,
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: for my first year, I thought I was because I
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: was a walk on them, like they could cut me
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: in in time, which is true. But in the NFL,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you don't produce, you're gone and then
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: you're done, and that's you. That's your way of life,
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: that's your way to be able to support your family.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: And you probably see every day in the locker room,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: right you look over and like, oh, that guy's gone.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: The revolving locker room was insane to me because in college,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: you know, you get used to who's around you and
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: you get really tight knit groups.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: It's a revolving door in the NFL.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Besides, you know, people look at the NFL and they go, man,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: they must just have it made. Well, there's some guys,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: but that's only you know, the first rounders or the
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: guys that are on their second contract that have guaranteed money.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: A lot of them are just fighting tooth and nail
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: to be able to make the roster. And you know,
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: one little miss up, one little injury here or there
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: could end at all. And so really what you are in,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: you're in fight or flight constantly. And for me, when
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: I got out of it, it was kind of like a
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: little bit of a fresh breath of you know, breath
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: of fresh air. I'm like, oh, man, like I don't
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: have to produce, I don't have to look over my
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: shoulder here in that. But anyways, it's just it's just
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: like any arena. But I think at the competitive sports level,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: there's so much on the line. And I mean it's
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: the best of the best.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Do you think the NFL has gotten better in handling
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: that stuff, like in terms of mental health world that
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: we live.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: In, Yes, and no. I think they've done a great job.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: From a cya standpoint, I think a lot of universities do.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: I think they got people with fancy titles, but I
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: don't know how much is actually moving the needle. I
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: think they have a lot of things from the you know,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: rehab side of things, like from if you've got a problem,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: you can come to so and so, But I don't
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: think the resources.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Get utilized as much because guys.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: They don't want to go around and talk to somebody
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: that doesn't know what they're going through. So kind of
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: the pitch that I guess I was making to some
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: of these places here is I'm one of these cats.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: I'm young enough where I think we're gonna be able
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: to relate to each other. I've walked in their shoes,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: and I'm not coming from it from a you know,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: mental health quote unquote standpoint. I'm going to view it like, hey,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: we're going to train your mind. So I think some
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: of them are doing a great job, like you know,
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: doctor Michael Gervais. He comes with the Seahawks. I love
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: his work and I think they really utilize it. Yeah,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: But I do think there's some universities that just say, hey,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: we checked the box, we've got it in case something happens,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: you know, we're good to go. But I don't think
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: they're really actually applying it and getting anything out of it.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think the usage is very high. It's Luke
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Falkey's here. We're going to keep him around for a
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: little we'll tell you about the big event tonight that
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: you're a part of a panel, and so much more. Also,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I want to get into a little bit of just
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: college football.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: As a whole.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Where we're at and we kind of touch we scratch
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: the surface, but I kind of want to go back
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: down that road because the evolving like like where where
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: this this world is now? We've got legislation being introduced
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: and trying to put more rules into place and sec
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: and big ten or fight and it will get in
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: a little bit more of that and see what the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: future holds. Maybe some coaching as well for Luke Falwlk.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that coming up next.
• 21:58
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• 22:13
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• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Danny O'Neil coming up at one twenty today our weekly
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: visit with Danny. One of my favorite Huskies. I'll say
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: that list is short. No, we love having Danny on
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: every week and we'll check in with him. Coming up
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: at one twenty. We'll hear a little bit about the
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: piggyback situation which is gonna take place again this weekend
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: with Mariners. They start a series again with the Arizona
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Diamondbacks coming in tonight. They've won eleven of thirteen. Have
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: the d Backs coming to the game tonight against the Mariners.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: So that game, by the way, is on King five
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: for those wonder a little bit of a local stuff.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: It's one of their I think their ten games are
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: doing on King five this season. You know, so away
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: we go, so four nine four one. We'll get a
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: couple of texts in as well, if you got some questions.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Two six Luke with about eighteen. You's here, so apparently
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: they like having you in here, which is great, and
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of people just saying thanks to both of
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: us for sharing, you know stuff, and I think that's again,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's important that you do share. And I
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: hadn't said anything while I was gone or anything like that,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: but that's I just wasn't right and wasn't feeling good
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: and whatever, it happens, and we're going to get back
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: to where we need to be. And I think I
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: think all of us have gone through that in our
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: different lives. You know, the one thing you can't take
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: off is being a parent. That's right, that's right, right,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: like you know it, that's the one that you know.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Or taking care of your parents like you know, with
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: your situation with your mom and stuff like that as well.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: So I got to ask you, what are the sisters
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: doing now? Because we talked about the Folk Sisters Friday
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: and people have asked about that. Whatever happened to music
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: they were humming along for? They're not doing anymore, right.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: They're not to gather anymore, you know, they do their
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: their own shows, her parents stuff, but ones in Nashville,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: and she's a mom and she's loving that and doing
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: some creative projects. And then the others in Boston and
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: the same deal. So they're just they're having a great time.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: And they got a lot more talent. Like I said,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: we talked about the talent factor. Those those two are
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: a lot more talented than I am.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: So cold.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were really good, man.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: I went all over and I mean we went everywhere
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: for their shows and stuff, and they were just, I
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: mean really really proud of them. Talk about a tough
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: competitive industry.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a lot harder than sports.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: They they came in studio once. I don't even know
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: what was going I think it was during like one
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: of the night with Cougar football or something like off season,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: probably maybe going in after your junior senior year, going
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: to the senior year when you were still playing, and
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: they they performed here for one of those events. When
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: those events, they both came in. They were awesome. They
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: were so much fun to talk to and so good.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: And but I was thinking to myself, man, these we're
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: getting them in now, they're going to be top of
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: the charts and all that, and like you said, it's
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: a competitive world that they live in, and it is
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: it is?
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: You know, I think they'll figure their way out. I
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: think they're enjoying the path and there the phaser in
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: in life, and you know they're still creative and stuff.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: In this day and age, you can write a song,
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: record it and it could be a hit, and you
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: can you know, make it that way.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: So yeah, hopefully that happens right Yeah, the the uh
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: it is luke fulk in here. We last time we
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: talked to you, the Wazoo coaching opening was there didn't work.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Out for you?
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I got the fan vote, I think I think you
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: got a lot of fan votes. Then Kirby got the job.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Is coaching still in your future? Well, the nice thing
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: about what I'm doing right now is I get a coach.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a pretty wild, wild world out there.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: It's hard for me to justify taking a job, one
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: of those entry level jobs, and when I can have
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: no earning cap on what I'm doing right now, and
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: my lifestyle is so much better and I'm able to
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: be a more present father and husband in that regard
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: and live where we want to live. So there's a
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: lot of factors and but at the end of the day,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: you know, there's that competitive fire that you want to
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: get into it. And I think if they got more
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: guardrails around it, and if I could go to a
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: place like Wazoo and just kind of climb up there,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: a place that I actually care about, rather than going
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: to some you know, some random university out of nowhere
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: that I don't have no affiliation to, and I'm trying
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: to recruit kids that I don't really even believe in
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: the school, and then I'm going to leave in a year, Like.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I just don't really want to do that.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: That happens.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that happens all the time.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Everybody you see right now, they're just wearing the hat
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: for a little bit and then they're going to the
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: next job. So if I got to get like a
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: good gig where like I said, it's at a place
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: like Wazoo that I love and believe in, you know,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: I think it's something possible. But I really love what
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: I'm doing right now because I think it's it's certainly needed.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: The where college athletics are now. We'll just look at
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: football for example. I mentioned that your your record in
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: the conference, and it doesn't matter who's playing in the conference,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: it'll it'll never probably be broken because someone would have
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: to play four years in the conference, and probably even
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: at the same school in the conference, and that just
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem feasible anymore. Guys aren't sticking around. I mean,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: it's just if you're really good, you leave after your
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: junior year, so maybe you get two and a half
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: years as a starter. If you're really good, you may
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: end up going to a different conference, getting paid and
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: so forth. If you could be the guy in charge,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: if there was such a thing of charge of cult.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: What needs to change? Oh gosh, where do we start?
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Can we go back in time? I'm just kidding, well.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Because I think it's a good perspective, because you didn't
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: get paid, right, And if we look at it from
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: if we would have fast forwarded, if you know, twenty
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: sixteen and twenty seventeen would have been twenty twenty five
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, you would have been making money either
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: there or somewhere else, and a lot of it. And
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: you would have also had, probably especially after your junior year,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: maybe after your sophomore year, you would have guys coming
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: at you from all over the country, right, right, And
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know how that would have been for a guy.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm glad that it didn't happen though, because, Yeah,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: I see these kids now you talk about they're getting
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: bombarded from other coaches and people in their corners and
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: mid season and it's just such a distraction and they
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: don't get enjoyed as much. But you know, if I
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: could go back in time, I was joking, but I'm serious.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Is I think where they went wrong as they went so, hey,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: you can't get anything like I think if they could
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: go back and say, you can make money off your name,
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: image and likeness, and that was truly what it was
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: meant to be. Like if we came and I did
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: an advertisement for somebody, I could make money that way. Great,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get punished for a booster buying me
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: a sandwich at Heroes and Sports and Pullman and risk
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: my eligibility, you know what I mean.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Like, so they were just so like if Heinrich Seed Company,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: which is a real place there it is in Pullman,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: if Scotti Heinrich and this Heinrich Seed Company came to you,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: or Jeff Annie and Arnie Annie Family Farms came to
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: you and said, hey, we want you to to commercial
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: for us. We're selling some wheat. We want you to
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: commercial that's name image and likely that's what it was
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: meant to be.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: You could never They couldn't do that though, right right,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: I think that'd be fine. And then like you know,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: people don't know, but when you go, you get a
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: stipe and check all year long, and then the summer
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: they give you a big lump sum and it's actually
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: like half of what your normal stipend is, and then
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: you get no meals involved with it, and then you're
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: to like ration this thing out for the whole summer.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: So guys are like, we're going to Zeppo's casino trying
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: to earn some more money at the end to be
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: able to pay our stipend deal. So you know, if
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: they would have just done some things here and there
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: that made it a little more comfortable. But at the
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: same time, you know, Josh Rosen was at UCLA and
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: he was pushing for athletes to get paid and they
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: asked me the question while I was playing. I said,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I think everybody should go walk on and realize what
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: you actually are getting paid, because you're getting your school
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: paid for. And I think that's gotten lost in the
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: whole shuffle. I'm happy these players and these athletes are
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: getting paid. I'm glad that they're getting that share. I
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: just think it went from you know, we're so it's
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: like you got a kid that grew up in a
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: very religious household and then they go to college and
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: then boom there it's just like a wild wild West
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: out there.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: They they just got no rules and regulations anymore, and
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: they're gonna go cut it loose.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: God, that's probably.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: So Rosen's saying that you're playing in the league UCLA.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Somebody comes and asks Luke Falk's like, he's one of
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks in the league. What do you think
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: In your answering that question, you probably got Leech going,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: why are you answering? Neil Stevens the s ID going,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: don't answer that.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Leach wanted us to get paid. I remember he was like,
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: I wish you guys got paid. Then I just find you,
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: you know, And I think I think he would have been,
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, He's like, oh yeah, you're this, Yeah, that's
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: ten thousand dollars. I'm like, coach, you would have been
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: bored out of your mind. You would you would find
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: us and then you'd get us in the sandpit.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: Did you have to go zamdpit?
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So before every practice one year we were in
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: it all the time and uh he told us to
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: when we were showering at night.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: And I'm not.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Going to give the full description because it is definitely
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: not radio friendly, but he said, when you find a
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: piece of sand and a certain part of your body part,
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: I want you to know how blanking soft you all are.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: And so that's how we started out every practice, and
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: that's how that's how we created the culture. You know,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: there was not a that's the one thing people think
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: like air raid this and that, but coach Leitch he
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: was a tough of a gun. Yeah, and that really
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: created that type of culture.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I think what I liked about that in the sense
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: is like it was a yes or no right, Like
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: you either could play for him and you could play
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: at that with that And if you're in Pullman, you
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: probably have a chip on your shoulder anyway, right, Like
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: you're probably already going in there. You've got a little
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: little edge to you. And if you don't, you're not
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: gonna handle it. You're not gonna be able handle being
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: there anyway. And you're gonna be gone. But that with
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: a guy like that, that probably that probably was needed,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: right and a lot of ways it was.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: When I first got there, it was really cancerous. I mean,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: like the culture and you know, like I said, I
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: wasn't a big Wazoo fan when I got up there,
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: I didn't know much about the history right, but right
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: as you could. I mean, I mean we had a
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: better high school culture with like leadership and all that
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: type of stuff, and then slowly you just saw it
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: changing and changing.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Which guy's changed it, Well.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's specific guys. I think it
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: was a real collective group, but that twenty fifteen class,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: like the gun or Ecklines, the Joe Dolls, like guys
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: like that that had gone through, you know, Jeremiah Allison. Yeah,
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: I think those guys really played a big part. I
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: think our class coming in was his first like real
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: recruiting class.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I think that helped, and then.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Obviously the coaches, but it was really the whole university.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Bill Moose, everybody was aligned, everybody
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: was going for the same that We're all pulling the
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: same direction and going in the same direction, and so
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: I can't say it was one person, but it was
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: really fun. I think people really enjoyed that time. It
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: was great. I talked to people all the time, They're like, oh,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: those leech era days. I mean, just it was like
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: the good old days. These people want to talk about it,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: but it was a real collective effort.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: What was What was the relationship like with you and
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: your top receiver in Gabe Marx, who might have been
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: one of the strongest personalities, and I think he left
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: the school if I'm not mistaken. When he was done.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: He was the all time leading receiver in the conference.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I think too, like he put up massive numbers, didn't
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: make it to the NFL A little bit undersize, but
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I think is the last time I talked to him.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Doing great things out there, working in the community, very
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: active in politics and other things like that. I mean
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: kind of he's kind of the epitome of student now
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, but also had a massive
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: personality and probably was a brace of at times as well.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: What was what was it like?
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Because you two probably the number one quarterback, number receiver,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: couldn't have been more opposite.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, which I think, you know they always say opposites
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: a tract, right. I have so much love and admiration
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: for Gabe, and he should be on that list. I
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: mean in terms of changing the culture. That guy is
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: one competitive sob probably the most competitive guy when you
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: get on the field, along with like you know, River
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: and all those types of guys too. But I mean
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: I watched Gabe pimp pan somebody in practice and one
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: on one to win the one on one rep. Just
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: I mean it was like he would not he would
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: not be denied. And I mean just being able to
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: go out and play with him and all that stuff. Yeah,
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: you got to manage egos and things with receivers in general,
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: but you know, Gabe meant it like, hey, just throw
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: me the dang ball and I'll be able to get it.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: And he certainly was amazing at that. I think him
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: and River are the best I've ever seen at the
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: tow Drag. I could throw the ball out of bounds
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: and they literally find a way to.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: They did.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: I threw the ball out of bounds and the next
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: thing I know, it's a reception. I'm like, all right, great,
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: oh my god, that's well.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: And Gabe had one of the great sound bites of
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: all time when he's talking about UCLA and their their jersey,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: the jersey colors. You can google that one, YouTube it up.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: It's it's classic. I won't get into it on the air,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: but that's but that's who he was, right, brought that attitude.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: And it was great because like I didn't have to
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: be that and that obviously I wasn't and when I
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: was playing, but it was like, you know, Gabe was
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: just himself and and he brought so much light and
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: energy to the team as well, and that competitive fire.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: And then we had a guy like not a lot
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: of people know Gunner Eckland and Cole Madison, those cats,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: but those dudes up front were so dang tough, and
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: I mean they just we had a great group. We
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: just really had a great team and on the defensive
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: side of the ball. And I could just name everybody,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: but uh yeah, Gabe certainly, he's fun to play with.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: And then he definitely had some choice words for me
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: here and there about especially when I was young and unproven.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Thankfully for me, I think Gabe was battling that red
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: shirt year because he had that injury and the kind
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: of the infection and stuff. So my first start, I'm
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: actually thankful that he wasn't involved in that and that
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: he was at home, because I think I'd be in
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: my head like I gotta get him to the ball,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: I gotta do this, I gotta do that. So thankfully
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: I had a few games under my belt by the
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: time him and I played together.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: All right, take quick break, come back, wrap things up
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: with Luke Falk. I want to get some thoughts from
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: him on the Super Bowl winning quarterback this year. His name,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, played against Luke and played with Luke with
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: the New York Jets in the NFL. We talked about
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: him when he first got signed. We'll get some thoughts
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: on Sam. Talk about the event tonight, what's going on,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: and tell you how you can get more information from
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: what Luke's doing with this great book as well.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: All that coming up.
• 35:38
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• 35:54
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• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Luke Falk All Time When you passed with back Gell
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Go Kooks in studio with us. He's here for the
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: kop's first event. We'll tell you about that before we
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: say goodbye. Also, what Luke's got going on. You want
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: to get more information and check out the book, which
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: is fantastic. We'll tell you about that as well. When
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald was signed last year, we had you on
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: right away and you talked about Sam and you kind
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: of talk more about Sam as the person than you
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: did as a football player. So let's start there. The
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: guy wins the Super Bowl, I'm sure you were rooting
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: for him in that Super Bowl. I look at him,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I just don't feel like he gets his due. Sometimes
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: maybe you played with the Jets just as a Jets fan,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: so we always kind of give her a hard time,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: like it just feels like it's just dysfunction personified. But
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald doing what he did last year, you probably
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: weren't surprised, right.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: I wasn't, and I don't think the people that know
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Sam and seeing how much talent he has really what happened.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: It's like, I mean, it's a leadership deal, and it
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: helps me open up my leadership talks because Sam had
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: all the talent in the world, but talent without leadership
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: is talent. Wasted and you know, the Jets could be
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: a freaking running case on this, but so being able
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: to see him get in an organization where he's got
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: the right leadership around him, the right pieces. Sam's I
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: mean over the top talent that there's a reason he
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: was the third pick in the NFL draft.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I mean so to him.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: I think one of the greatest things about Sam is
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: that he's just very comfortable in his own skin.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: He's not trying to be somebody's not. And then I
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: think it.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Really shows out on the field because a lot of
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: quarterbacks they are hesitant, they don't want to make mistakes
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: in that regard, and Sam just he's like he's kind
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: of got I think his grandpa, right was the old
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Marlborough man. Sam's kind of got that in him, like
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: the I don't give a fulk type of mentality. He's
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: very decisive and that's people are like, oh, he's reckless
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: at times and stuff. But that helps him be a
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: great quarterback. And that's a great really skill of his.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: And then obviously he's been able to piece it together.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: How hard is it to do the following as a quarterback?
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Because he does it. I think as well, if not
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: better anybody in the league.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: What you just said.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: You're reckless, You're careless, you give the ball away. You
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: have that game where you have all those interceptions. He
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: had one of those this year against the Rams and
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: still comes back and leads him duel winning overtime. Like
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: and he doesn't change, like you don't see a change.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: You were like this too. You just talked about how
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: kind of stoic you were. You don't see a change.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: You don't see a guy throwing a helmet or getting demonstrative.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: You're internalizing, probably maybe too much at times. But that
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: feels like it's a strength for Sam Darnold that he's
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: able to do that.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think just the more and more you
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: go through adversity like that, you kind of build this
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: muscle where you know you're gonna be able to rebound,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: and happens in his college career. You know, he might
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: have a game where he threw the more picks or
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: had some fumbles and stuff, but he's able to rebound quickly.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: And then just given the amount of adversity and kind
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: of the grit factor that he's had in the NFL,
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: I just think it helps strengthen him in those moments,
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: and then also too, I mean, let's put this in
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: the factor. When you've made as much money as as
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: he has, it gives you a little house money feel
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: where you can go out and you can cut it
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: loose and you're not worried about losing your job. So
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: I think that certainly helps create that environment or where
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: you don't think you're going to get cut on every
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: throw and you have that leeway to be able to
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: go out and you know, fit it into some of
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: the tight windows and not get reprimanded for it.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Pete always talked about the competition. Competition, Okay, I always laugh.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: We always kind of chuckle. Hugh Millen, former Husky quarterback,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: does a lot of stuff with us, and he's like, everybody, look,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: let's everyone's talking about in the NFL. Everyone's talking about competition. Hell,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: high level college, We're all talking about everybody's competing for
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: a spot, right, But that was kind of their mantra,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: And we always laughed because Listen Russ didn't have to
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: compete for his job. He did his first year beat
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: out Matt Flynn. Thanks for coming. Never had to worry
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: about it again for a quarterback in the NFL. How
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: important is it to have that that security, not just financial,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: But when they brought Sam Donald here and then they
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: brought Drew lock back, they drafted Milrow in the third round,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: there was never a question, Hey Sam, you're the guy, period,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: end of story. How important is that?
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: Maybe? How much?
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: How much do you think that led to his success
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: his best season? Well maybe in Minnesota, but Minnesota where
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: there's an injury, So how much do you think that
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: led to his success last year?
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: Oh?
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Big time?
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think as a quarterback, one you have
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: it's it's not all on you, right, I mean, you
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: have so many pieces around you. You got to have
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: a good defense in order to be able to get
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: you in good field position. All that you gotta have
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: the right time. You gotta have the receivers getting open.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: But if you don't have a coach and a culture
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: and a place that really believes in you, and it's
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: going to give you a house money environment where you
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: can go out and you can cut it loose and
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: if you make a mistake, they're not just going to
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: pull you and they're not going to throw you under
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: the bus. And the media and stuff like that. I mean,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: it helps tremendously I see guys who are very talented,
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: just like Sam was. If Sam didn't get this opportunity
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: in the second half of his career, we're calling Sam
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: quote unquote a bust when it wasn't due to Sam's
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: talent and who he was as a player, it was
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: really just the environment that he was in. And so
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: I just quarterback is such a unique position. You need
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: all the pieces around them to be, you know, kind
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: of a winning formula for it to be a magical scenario.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: How dysfunction are the Jets or how well.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Obviously you know, I mean, listen, I was a Phinale
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: middle talent. I didn't work out. I'm just but now
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: I made a post about it. I'm like, you got
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Brett fav I've got Aaron Rodgers, get Sam Darnold, and
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: then you had Luke Falk and none of us panned out.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: So anyways, now I just, you know, I don't know
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: what's going on there. It's a top it's a top
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: down deal. I don't I don't know if any coach
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: can really fix it. I think it's got to be
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: a whole leadership shake up. And and like I said,
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: I don't, I mean, I'm not the one. I've never
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: let it in an NFL organization. All I know is
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: that there are some teams that have a competitive advantage
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: every year that they're going to be in the mix
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: based upon how they run the organization, the leadership that
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: they have. And there are some teams where it is
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: a long, long, long, long long climb up that mountain
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: and they are one of those teams.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Like just playing there, Like, is there is there truly
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: media pressure or fan pressure or are you able to
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: tune that out, because you know a lot of people say, well,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: it's just hard to play in New York, you know,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: whether the Giants or the Jets. It's Jackson Dart didn't
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: seem to have a problem once he took over last year, right,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: and he seemed to be just fine. But how hard
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: is that? Part of the issue is the pressure that
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: external pressure, I guess. I mean, I had a unique deal.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: It's not like I was coming in and people were thinking, oh,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be the savior of this program to
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: certain greedy So I don't know the pressure that Sam
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: had or any of those other guys had, I don't think.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: I think that's all just kind of a narrative you
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: can turn your phone off, you cannot read the newspaper.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: You can do the interviews and the articles and not
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: have to be involved with that. In fact, that that's
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: actually what I recommend with athletes to do, because when
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: you read that stuff, it just creates an anxiety because
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: you're focused on things you can't control, and then you
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: know you're why are you letting other people tell you
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: about yourself? Like why do you need that validation from
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: others good or bad? So I think that that's not
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: the issue in my opinion. I think the issue comes
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: down to leadership. And you got all this talent, right
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Leonard Williams, he was with the Jets when we were there.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: There was a number of talented pieces there, but just
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: from the top down. If you don't lead properly, and
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: it's in any organization, if you don't have the right
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: leadership and the right environment. You can have all the
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: talent in the world, but like that talent's and get wasted.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I think that's what we look at here in Seattle.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: I'm sure Sam would tell you that, like the leadership
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: with John Schneider, his lieutenant so to speak, the two
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: guys that he's got kind of with him forever.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: Three guys.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Actually, they've all been on the same page since, you know,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: almost in stay one at least a decade or so
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: for most of those guys. And that probably trickles down
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: all the way through the organization, coaching staff into the
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: locker room.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: I would assume.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, it certainly does. It's a trickle down effect
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: for sure. I mean, look at Washington State. If we
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: don't have the right leadership during that leech time, and
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: it starts with the president, right, President Floyd, Then it
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: goes to Bill Moose, then it goes down to coach Leach,
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: and then it goes down to US players and then
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: I mean really and everybody, and it created a winning
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: like you just create a new culture. Even our you know,
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: the equipment step. Everybody was pulling the same weight. But
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: it starts at the very top. Now, JP and Milton,
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: they are the best in the business. And Bill and
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Bobby and yeah all those cats.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Bill Stevens, Bobby Allworth, those guys are great. Milton
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: is in that company down the in the equipment room,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: looks shout out to all those guys. They make that
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: place go. They do for people that are listening, right,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: now and they say, okay, the book. I'm gonna get
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: the book Amazon wherever right probably with the book.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, you know, I make like a buck fifty
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: off of it, so go get the book.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Great, Well, what else can people find you? And if
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: parents listening or something like that, what else are you
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: doing out there that people can reach out?
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just go to coach lukefalk dot com or if
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: you're on any social media platforms LinkedIn Twitter or I guess
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: it's called x now and then Instagram, it's just coach
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: luke Falk. Try to make it easy. But I got
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: a free newsletter. Number of people signed up for yep,
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: every Monday.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Is that something that newsletter? And that would you recommend? Say,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: like high school coaches and youth coaches get that anybody?
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: So what's nice is like I think mind strength applies
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: to everybody something, parents, coaches, and then I got a
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: lot of business people in it. You know, Like I said,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: it's like all the principles that apply in sports. I mean,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: it's really just a kind of metaphor for life. And
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: that's the thing that was surprising for me as I
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: got into the space thinking I'd be working with athletics
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of what I do is now in the
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: business arena. And I didn't think I was qualified or
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: whatever at the beginning, because I'm like, what do I
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: know about business? But what I do know is my
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: experience is playing and the leadership and the stuff that
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I've learned from a number of great mentors. And it's
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: really helped a lot of people, you know, because everybody
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: we all got in mind.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: And when you seem to be having your best day,
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: it's in rhythm, it's humming, and the days that you're not,
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: it's you need to do some work on it.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: That leads us to this for the coogs over here,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Cook's first tonight West Side Show taking place starting at
• 45:26
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• 45:29
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• 45:31
  Speaker 1: to Kooksfirst dot org for more information. But cocktails speeches.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: You're doing a panel i think later on this afternoon
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: as well. So there's a lot going on down there.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: It's a great place to connect business community wise as well.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: You talk about the businesses, all those businesses out there
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: are there are going to be there, set up and
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: ready to go. So President Cantwell is going to be there.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you've had a chance to meet her yet.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: She's sensational. Love what she's doing and talking about with
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: just not just wise but higher education of the state,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: which is always seeing funding cuts and all that other
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: fun stuff these days. And she's a big proponent. She's
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: good for education period in our state right now. So
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I think she's doing something later on this afternoon, too.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: So great to see him. Let's do this. Let's talk
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: some football this fall. Do you want to do that?
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: That would be great. I love it, all right, that'd
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: be a fun time. Anytime I get a chance to
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: talk with you, it's a good time.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Luke football, Hang on, hang on, we stay here, Oh
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. We got a tie game in Eugene.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Go Coogs. Huh go Coogs. Coogs with runners on runner
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: on third, one out, have just tied the game at
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: one thanks to an errant throw by the beaver catcher.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: We're loving that action.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Tiele one.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Let's go here we go all right. Great to see you, Luke.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Have fun down there today. Cooks first down starting at
• 46:44
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• 46:47
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• 46:49
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• 47:15
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• 47:22
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• 47:25
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• 47:29
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• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Well, big thanks to uh to Luke Falk for coming
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: in today. Uh his joke, Yes, it's he is the
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: all time we passman the PAC twelve.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: It's not a joke, not a joke. Fact.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: It's just funny because it's like, well, the conference is
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: going away, Well the conference is back. It's so different that,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: like I think if you look at a lot of
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: records though in college sports and even for conferences that
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: have been around forever. Well, Braden Smith for Purdue basketball
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: player point guard, I think he just set the record
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: for all time assists. He broke like Bobby Hurley's record
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: in the NCAA because they both played for four years. Yeah,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: that's just that stuff isn't going to happen anymore, and
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: especially with you talk about conference records, it's probably even
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: less likely for any It doesn't matter if it's if
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: we still had USC and UCLA in the conference, it
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: wouldn't matter because if you're if you're for quarterback, especially right, like,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: if you are good, you're gone after probably you know,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: two or three years of playing. You're not going to
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: play four years anymore, or you're gonna transfer, you're gonna
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: do what have you. It's just it's different. I thought
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: it was interesting his thoughts on it's a first guy
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: I've heard say this in a long time. And listen,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: you were student athlete. Yep, I was just a student.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: But he brought up again like everyone should understand what
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: it walk on is because you know, when you do
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: get on scholarship and stipends, and even though as he jokes,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: it's not enough money to really live on, right, like
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: you gotta you know, they're going to Zeppo's, the casino
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: and Pullman to try to try to make some extra
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: money to make ends meets in the summertime, but there's
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: still the opportunity to like, hey, I'm I'm this is
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: a lot better being a walk on right right, understand
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: that the education still is available for you if you
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: want it well.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: And I think when if someone was to put out
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: of content text him saying can we just go back
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: in time? Yeah, a lot of people would think, oh,
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: he just wants to go back to when you know,
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: students weren't making money. Yeah, And he actually clarified that
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: he wanted to go even further back to the point
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: where they were so strict against someone you know, having
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: a commercial or something like that. That's the time he
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: wants to go back and change, not go back to
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: what it was just like five six, seven years ago.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Well, it's just it's and the whole name, image and likeness,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: nil deal is it's it's a joke. Yeah, you know,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: he brought up something I brought up when it first
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: came up, and that is, hey, you're a ten ninety
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: nine employee. Basically, yeah, you better be saving money for
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: tax like I I would imagine the irs is doing
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of work these days because all those deals
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: are as independent contractors. And you and I've both done
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: that kind of work a lot of Yeah, and you
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: got to keep track of that because let's just let's
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: say someone pays you a thousand dollars three hundred of
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: that's going it's going out of here. Yeah, at the
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: not then because you got it in your pocket. But
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: at some point it's going out back to the government, right,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: and you got to claim all that stuff. And so yeah,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: there's a lot, there's a lot goes into it. Athletes
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: should get paid. Name, image and lightness should be part
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: of it. Like I said, we're joking about yeah, I
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: mean you you should be able to sit there and go, okay,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: well we're gonna do this, this and this and in
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: other words, like when cam Ward got the deal here
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: in for Pullman, right, he was kind of he was
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: kind of the first NIL player in our state, even
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: before any Washington guys uh had that going on. And
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: when cam got it, he was doing a car he
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: had a car dealership that he was working with out
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: of Auburn, and a couple other things, and so he
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: did spots for them, commercials, what have you, endorsements, that's name, image, enlightness.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Now we're just paying dudes, you know. In fact, in
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: the early days of Washington's nil it was simply Seattle
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: given guys like Roman Doomsday's doing like autograph signings for
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: simply seat. We're doing appearances, right and getting paid for it.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: That's what a name, image and likeness deal. Right now,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: we're just paying guys. It's just a way to circumvent it,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: to pay to play. Yeah, but they but they still
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: had to they had to fulfill some things.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know I'm saying now it is a way
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: to circumvent it, just to get them.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and it's not that hard. You make
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: an appearance, you sign an autograph, take a picture with
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: a couple of fans, and away you go. But now
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: we're just paying guys. Now we're just paying it. And
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: we're paying kids come out of high school that have
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: never stepped foot on the Collins campus, and who knows
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: if they're good or not. But the system's broken off.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Where I had a friend call me today, we're talking
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: about it. The system's broken off. We talked about it
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: the other day that that Ted Cruz and Maria Cantwell,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: two people as far opposite of each other on the
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: side of the aisle, and the United States Senate as
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: it could as there could be, are coming together with
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: a with a bill and some legislation. Whether it helds
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: any weight or water, I don't know it'll pass. What
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: it means, nobody really knows right now. We'll probably get
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Mandel on next week to talk about that a little
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: bit as well, because there's a lot going on before
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: we get to Danny coming up in the next segment.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Mariners tonight taking on the Diamondbacks the first of three,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: then the Mets are next week. And Andrews, you'll get
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: ready for your postcast later on tonight. Will the Diamondbacks
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: We brought this up yesterday come into this game. They've
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: won eleven of thirteen. Is that good? Except and I
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: brought this up with you know, he kind of shot
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: me down out of the sky. But they the level
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: of thirteen, they're the Giants and the Rockies. I think
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: it's they've beaten right, so they do the worst team
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: to the worst teams in baseball? So are they good
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: or are they just been beating bad teams? They have
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: an offense right Offensively, they're okay, yes, so they're getting going.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: I think more importantly it's what we're seeing from Seattle.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: I think that's that's what my takeaway is, is what
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: we're seeing from the Mariners. Yes, Oakland's not very good,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: and it's just it's one series, but we did see
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: those bats truly come alive. And I don't care if
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: it's a bandbox or not, because you know what didn't
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: come alive, the A's offense, So kind of what you
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: would hope four for Seattle. Good pitching in the A
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: series and then the offense comes alive and then oh,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: by the way, on Sunday, we're piggybacking. Yes we are,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: we are piggybacking again.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: I'm a little surprised they're going back to the Bryce
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: Miller starting and Louis Castillo coming in relief because I
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: think both of whether you know they can tell you
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: that they're not comfortable or not, I think both of
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: them looked more comfortable in the role they were in Sacramento,
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: where it was Louise starting and Bryce coming out of
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: the bullpen, And I feel like that makes more sense
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: because then you know, yes, you have the you have
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: the possibility and in a lot of fans' eyes, the
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: higher possibility that Louis has about outing and blows up
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: and you're down four zero before you can even bat
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: and eye right. But you have the ability, you know,
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: to kind of sense if something's happening with with Louise
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: to be like, all right, maybe three innings out of
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: you today is is good. Maybe if we can get
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: through four, that's great. And then Bryce as long as
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: we can, that just makes a little bit more sense
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: to me. Yeah, But I think either way, we'll see
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: how it ends up playing out once again and see
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: if they can actually, I don't, you know, keep the
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: final thing again.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: It's it's one of the To me, it just feels
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: over and over again like it's just one of those
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: things we want to complain about, right Like it's and
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: we brought it up earlier in the week and one
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: of our shows the baseball team for whatever reason, and
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: I guess the biggest reason is is the expectations that
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: we have this season. It feels as if in the
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: in the in the eyes, in the views of many,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: they can't do anything right. And like if they were
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: ten games above five hundred and they were hanging around
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: the same level as Tampa Bay and New York at
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: top of the of the American League, what will we
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: find to complain about? Right Like, what would there be
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: because there would be something maybe the fact well they
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: got they still have to go out and out of
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: the roster. I mean, I have no faith they're going
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: to do that. And yet you look at the Gary
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Hill was on with Greg earlier. He brought it up,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: this team's not afraid to add of the deadline.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: They've done it three in the last four years.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: They have not been afraid at all out of the
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: deadline and to make a move as well. I think
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: they're just in such a great situation right now, and
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: I know the record is what it is. Doesn't matter
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: that they're the best team in a bad division. The
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: only thing We've talked about it over and over again.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: What I'm looking at is be number two, beat the
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: seam in the central Cleveland more than likely, right probably
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: be Cleveland. And really Cleveland's kind of in the same
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: situation they're looking around, going we can kind of sleep
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: walk our way through this damn league too, but be
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: the number two team in the division. The fact that
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Julio's hitting, the fact that cold Emerson is a revelation,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, now will we see will we see JP
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: at third?
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: Gary Hill also mentioned that we should quote unquote expect
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: some news today regarding Brendan Donovan. So I wouldn't be surprised.
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: Maybe if he gets if not activated for this weekend,
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: it is very very close. I still think the long
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: term play here is Brendan Donovan at third, Cultiverson at
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: short JP at d H. But I they'll probably give
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: him every opportunity to really have the wheels fall off
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: of him at shortstop. Some of some could argue that's
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: already happened, But I still think that's where the Mariners
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: should be going in the long term, at least with
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: this year.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: But we can't can we even trust at all in
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: any way, shape or form. Can we trust Donovan to
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: stay healthy in play third base? No, he'sa this two
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: injured list stints this year.
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, after having a hernia surgery in the off season, right, Yeah.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: So like I'm not I mean, I don't know. Maybe
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: he's better suited to DH right now.
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: That's a good point. That's a good point, Yeah, because
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: he's coming off the injury, right. But I would rather
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: have Donovan's defense period than JP's.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Donovan at third, Yeah, even though he was kind
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: of a nightmare there.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: He was bad in the first like month or the
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: so of the season, and he started to kind of
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: get a lot better and more comfortable with it. But
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: even if you don't want to do that, you could
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: do you know, him in left or him and right
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: h Randy for those who've wanted that forever, Yeah, that
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: could be an option moving forward. So I don't know,
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of ways they can go about this.
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: They're obviously not gonna have the same line up every
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: single night too, so you want to figure out a way.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: I love what I saw from.
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: Victor Robless against in the last two games against the A's.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Well, for people that missed it the day game on Wednesday,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Victor Robles he had two diving catches that took away
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: extra base hits, and yeah, the Mariners went on to
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: have a pretty easy win in terms of the score.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: But what Victor Robles did and what he showed you
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: was pretty damn spectacular and just such a huge revelation
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: and difference from what we've seen with that defense, the
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: corner outfield defense, and hell, frankly, Julio hasn't been great.
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: No, No, he has not.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: Defensively, Yeah, defensively, so you know, I mean, it's it's
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: been it's been one of those years. I don't know,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: big ser he is coming up though, you do get
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: a test. No matter who the Arizona Diamonbacks have beaten,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: it's the best team they've seen in a while.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: The Maritors.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and they did lose too, Yes, they did
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: lose two or three to the Kansas City Royals. This
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: is a better baseball team, and there's something better noise.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: I just well, yeah, and I just looked at the
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: Diamondbacks schedule. It was literally Rockies Giants, Rockies Giants. Yeah,
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: that's so weird. That's the that's their last thirteen games. Yeah,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: that's who they've beaten their last thirteen of those wild?
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: Are those teams?
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 59:27
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• 59:31
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• 59:36
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• 59:38
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• 59:42
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  Speaker 1: All right, it's become a Friday tradition that frankly, I
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: love getting a chance to talk to my friend Danny O'Neil,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: the best damn sports writing you're going to get out
• 1:00:25
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• 1:00:27
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• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: Here in Seattle.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: Danny O'Neil, how are you on this Friday.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: I'm doing very well in the city of New York
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: is in celebration, ecstasy over the New York Knicks reaching
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: the NBA bous And yeah, we depending on how things go.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: Depending depending on how things go, we might we might
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: need the Knicks to avert thunder back to back.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: We we are going to need that. That's what it
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: doesn't It's inevitable. Hey, we talked about that briefly this week.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Not so much that I try to ignore the team
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: in the dust Bowl, but the d I mean, how
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: crazy is it? Nineteen ninety nine, right? The last time
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: the Knicks were in the finals?
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: Is that right?
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: And the last time they won it was was what
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: seventy three or something like? For a team that gets
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: all the attention, they're very much the Dallas Cowboys of
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: the NBA, are they not? Like they not a lot
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: of success, but a lot of attention.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: You're giving them way too much credit because they get
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: the attention of the Dallas Cowboys. But for most of
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: the past twenty five years, they've been the Cleveland Browns.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: There They've been not just non competitive, terrible, awful team.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: I was a Warriors fan when I was a younger,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: when I was a younger lad relating to minute Bowl
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: and when the Warriors went on a twenty year run
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: where they made the playoffs once, like, that's the kind
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: of terrible that the Knicks have been.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Oh kill recently.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And the reason he and I I could be
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: I could become the world's biggest Knicks fan in about
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: three or four days.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're the same out here, you know that, Like
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: there's all like, we're all Knicks you know here we are. Yeah,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: let's go. Let's let's bring them all well, Fraser, let's
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: go bring them all back. Let's get them going here.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: You know, willis reed that we're all we're all Knicks
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: fans right now, Patrick Ewing, here we go. Oh god, Hey,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: I want to hit on something that we talked about
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: on the show Thursday and the sale of the Seahawks.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: How and what it's going to happen.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: Now it's hot, apparently it's hot.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: Soft, Now it's.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 6: Firm, it's gonna be.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: As somebody I've as somebody who has you know, old
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: enough in this world to have bought and sold many houses.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: I hear about hot markets and soft markets way too often.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: Usually usually if I'm involved in selling a house, it's
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: a soft market and then it turns hot afterwards. That's
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: that's kind of in my luck over the years. But
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: I the my question is this, as a Seahawks fan,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: how concerned should you be about whoever the new owner
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: is coming in? Is this something you should lose sleepover.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Is this something you should stress about? Are we just
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: suffering from PTSD because of you know, a couple ones
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, norse from selling it to
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: the UH to bearing the Seahawks like that kind of
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: gets forgotten a lot of times. That was that was
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: almost as egregious as Howard. Right, So is a reason
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: for concern?
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: Right, No, there's not.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: And the reason is because the direction that you see
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: teams run nowadays is that it is groups of owners
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: rather than one single person like this is this is
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: his trend in the NFL, and that the groups that
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: come in the changes that they make largely relate to
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: non football things. You don't you used to have the
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: ability to be a miser or a scrooge McDuck owner
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: who just didn't didn't pay for this on the team. Yeah,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: that generally doesn't exist. Now. You might some slick talking, corporate,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: soulless sucker like Dundon down in Portland who comes in
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: and he's gonna he's gonna run everything else, like like
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: a fast food franchise. But that that might happen, and
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying that's that's good or it's not. And
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: that would be. It would be preferable that that not happened.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: We don't want that to happen. But the doomsday scenario
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: is that you either get someone who's going to yank
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: the team out or someone who is going to be
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: cheap about the way that they run the franchise, and
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: that that ladder option really really doesn't exist. And I
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: just don't see any way in the world that you
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: would ever see the Seahawks relocated like that. I don't
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: care what you talk about the stadium or anything like that.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: There's just there's not The NFL has seen what that
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: has done, even when it's been a lesser market like
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: Saint Louis, and I think that the result of that
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: is that you are going to see it's hard for
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: me to ama the NFL doing that sort of relocation
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: game again given the way that specific relocation.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: Went well, I mean, what happened with Cleveland and so
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: forth in Baltimore over the years, and seeing them, you know,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: try to fix the wrongs that they had. The NFL
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: that is, you know, the the NBA certainly doesn't care
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: about that, but at least they hasn't happened for twenty years.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think It's an interesting dynamic with the
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: situation involving ownership and how it relates to fans, because
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: at the top of the list is what you said.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: In the top of the concern list would be, God,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: are they going to move the team?
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Like, would they move the team? Would that be something
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: that happens? And I just don't see that happening in
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: any way, shape or form here with the Seahawks. But
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: the other part of it is what you said, you know,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: running it like a fast food franchise and how cheap
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: can we go? And Danny, I know this doesn't affect
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: most fans, and really, you know, the dundant thing I thought,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: the whole T shirts as opposed to towels is a
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: little bit overblown. I mean, he comes from a hockey background,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: the towels are a big thing for hockey playoff games
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: not And frankly, the fact he didn't do T shirts,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: I think is someone loud, like, really, do you have
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: a size that fits everybody? Because last I checked, looking around, yeah,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: not all of us are the same size. We're gonna
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: have a bunch of sized medium guys squeezing into him.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: That was a little bit overblown. But then laying off
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: a ton of people, and then I see the reaction afterwards. Well,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: they were they were the fattest franchise out there. They
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: had too many people. And I was there in the
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: early two thousands. You worked there, you know, like that's
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: all cyclical. And when you tell me that they were fat,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: well they've already cut people back. That's the red flag
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: for me. I just I don't know. I don't want
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: somebody taking over something and running it on a cheap basis,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: however that is off the field, off the court, whatever,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: And I guess that would be my concern, But I
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: don't have much of a concern for them leaving.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's very fair, Like you don't the Seahawks.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: So I started covering the Seahawks every day in two
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: thousand and five, and I really do think going back
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: to Todd Lwicki who entered the team and started working
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: with the team a few years before that, it has
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: been a franchise that, to its credit, and this is
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: sustained beyond Todd Lightwikie has built itself around taking pride
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: in their fans and caring for their fans and caring
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: for the people that work for the team. And you
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: don't want to lose that. But I also think that's
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: one of the assets that you're buying as an NFL owner.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: And when you look into the NFL specifically at the
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: things that have the most recent sort of new owners
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: that have come in, certainly Josh Harrison in Washington, they've
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: they've had a little bit of a it's very easy
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: to replace Danson exactly like that. That's just being different,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: is an upgrade. But guys like Dave Tepper in Carolina
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: and Jimmy Haslam in Cleveland. The shortcomings would be guys
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: who've been too involved in personnel. They really you really
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: haven't seen anybody come in with that take a hatchet
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 5: to it approach to try induce make it a more
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: streamlined operation, in large part because the NFL. I'm not
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: a I shouldn't I don't know if I should reference books,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: should I reference work? So people could do? People still
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: read books.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Some people there's a book called.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: I think it's Every Sunday or any Sunday. Kent Beltz,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: who's an NFL Time or a New York Times reporter
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: in the NFL, and he spelled out the name of
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: the game in the NFL is increasing franchise values. Like
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: that's about It's not year over year profits. It's not
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: even totally about the size of broadcast contracts. Like the
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: biggest measurement that they use and strive for is the
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: increase of franchise values and coming in and we'll see
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: what happens with Dundon. But that sort of approach does
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: not increase franchise values because it costs. There's a cost
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: to doing business in that way. I completely agree with
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: you about the layoffs, and I think it's a bad look.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: I think it establishes and I think he comes off
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: looking like this cold corporate new age sort of I
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: don't care about anybody, and I think that comes at
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: a cost of franchise value. So I really I'm not
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: that's it's a concern. I just think that that's there's
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: not you don't. It's nothing to get too kick wound
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: up about until it actually happens.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: I I you know what this Danie o'il joining us
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: the if I look at like the Seahawks staff, I
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: think is a good example of how well the organization
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: has been run. Right, Like if you and I'm not
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: talking to like football operations. There's two parts here. One,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: whoever comes in, do you just hopefully say, John Schneider,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: you're the president of football Operations, you and whoever your
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: lieutenants are these days? Nolan Teasley man d up getting
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: a GM job somewhere, but he's been there forever. Trent Kirchner,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: guys like that, all those dudes. Matt Barry their VP
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: of player acquisition, college guy. You know, do we just
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: leave the football him alone?
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: Good? Perfect? Fine?
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: And then on the other side, and I think this
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: is where you know, when you talk about a community asset.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: Chuck Carnold is a president. He worked his way up
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: from as an intern.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: Then you look at people.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: Like Karen Spencer, Amy Sprangers, David Young, Lisa Young, Jeremy Young,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: different people like that, Mike Flood, all these people, Sarah Carter.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: These are all the people that you don't know, but
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: they work behind the scenes. They're in the corporate partnerships,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: they're in the ticket area, whatever it might be, and
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: they service their clients well. They run the organization first class.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: The PR I think it's an amazing thing that all
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: those people I mentioned, Dave Pearson and his staff, Jeff
• 1:10:36
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  Speaker 1: been there for twenty plus years. Like that tells you
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  Speaker 1: something about how the organization is run. And yeah, maybe
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't affect you as a fan day to day,
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  Speaker 1: but it does tell me, like, hey, they've done things
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  Speaker 1: the right way since really Paul and bought it, like
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  Speaker 1: Wiki took over and then the iteration. Since then, they've
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  Speaker 1: done things the right way. And I think that would
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  Speaker 1: be my only concern is Okay, like all these great
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: people run the thing perfectly. It's kind of the model franchise.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: I don't want to see that shaken up. That would
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  Speaker 1: be my only concern, not moving, but just those types
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: of people, because I think it does, in some small
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  Speaker 5: Now. Maybe at this point what we need to do
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  Speaker 5: celebratory press conference, we need to give him a signal
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  Speaker 5: like Robert de Niro gave Ben Stiller and Meet the Parents,
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  Speaker 5: but we're thinking about letting you in there. But you
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  Speaker 5: got to earn your way into the circle of trust.
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  Speaker 1: five zero five hundred. All right, I I Our baseball
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  Speaker 1: team is back home, starting tonight series against the pretty
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  Speaker 1: hot Arizona Diamondbacks, who come rolling in here with a
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: far better record than the Seattle Matters do. But Danny,
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  Speaker 1: the Mirrors are back in first place. Do we owe
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: anybody in apology all the yelling and screaming and consternation,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: or do we look at and say, well, yeah, you're
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: in first place, but it's still a bad division. You're
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: still below five hundred and whatever. You haven't done anything yet.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're not gonna We're not gonna be handed now
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: popsicles to anybody just yet. Like, let's not get carried
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: away there, I do. I did wonder did they take
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: a piggyback ride back from West Sex when they came
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 5: back from gi your piggyback ride up to the top. Okay,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 5: you abolish the piggyback term? Is that the main problem?
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 8: Strategy itself?
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  Speaker 4: It works.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 5: A strategy itself has been somewhat effective.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: I mean in terms of the runs allowed. Yeah, it's
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: been great.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: No, wait, I gotta ask you this, do you is this?
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: Are these the weeks that you missed sports radio and
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: newspaper writing. Are these the weeks that you're like, god,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: thank god, I don't have to talk about piggyback eight
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: every single day?
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 6: No miss it?
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: Like this is these are the funnest times because everybody,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: I mean, this story in and of itself. A you
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: have the term piggyback, which is inherently funny and not
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: something that grown men should necessarily be saying as a
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 5: grown ass man. Should you be using the term piggyback?
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 5: Anyway, So you have that the term itself is comical. Second,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 5: the first time the piggyback was deployed, what was the
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 5: big complaint that Castillo was allowed to go out there
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: into the ninth because of some preordained arrangement that he
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: was only pitching. He was going to pitch so many
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: amount of innings and they had to honor that, and
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 5: they cost them the game because Munio's didn't start the
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: ninth that if Munyo's started, and what happened in the
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: second game, Castillo was taken out too early.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 7: You should have been allowed to continue because that is
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 7: set up.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 5: So in one case, they're falter for sending it back
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: out there. In another case, the problem is if you
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 5: would yanked without regard to performance. And in the end
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: both games the picture was actually a strength. They lost
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 5: the first point because they couldn't hit it all And
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 5: so it is the fun thing to debate, and ultimately
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 5: I come down on the side of you don't owe
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: a picture anything other than the contract you've agreed to
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 5: pay him. And if Castillo, I don't fault him for
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 5: being furious, and I don't really care if he reacts
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: that way every single time he comes out of the game.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: But I also don't think that you have to cater
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: to how he's feeling, Like should you communicate like grown
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 5: ups and be able to work through this, Yeah, I
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: think so. But if he's not going to accept it. Ultimately,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: I come down with the side of your job as
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 5: a player is to is to pitch how you're deployed,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: and I don't expect either of those pictures to be
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: happy with it. I also think that of all the
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: things that have been done, I actually understand the Rationaleum
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 5: this way, they want them both. What's the term baseball?
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: Guys use stretched out?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Stretched out? Got to get stretched out. I don't know
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: about you. I get stretched out every day.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 5: I want to keep stretched out. Yeah, you're gonna stretched
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 5: out every kid. We just want to keep you stretched
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: out for.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying. I was doing a two hour show.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: Now I'm doing a three hour show. I'm stretched out.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 5: But that you want to keep them, and I get that.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: Chances are one of your starters is going to get
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: hurt and it would help you at least until you
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 5: know for sure what decision you would make with the
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 5: rotation to keep both of these guys, have them share
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 5: that start. Miller might not like it, but he's coming
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 5: back from injury. Steele might not like it, but he
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 5: hasn't been that good this year. I'm okay with how
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: it's being deployed. Maybe it could have been communicated better,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 5: or maybe these guys are going to be mad. Regardless,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: I think everybody can be asked to be grown ups. God,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 5: if the Seahawks won a Super Bowl with Percy, Harvin,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: Chuck and Golden Tate into a laundry hamper the night
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 5: before the game, surely we can negotiate the intricacies of
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: piggybacker Ringe.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think the thing that's crazy
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: to me is this the like we're worried about, like
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: you just said, feelings in professional sports, Like can you
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: imagine telling like, hey, hey, Mike McDonald, John Schneider, you
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: really got to manage you know, the feelings of Drew Locke.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: He's really upset. He he didn't get a chance to
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: compete with Gino and now he's really just kind of
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: behind Sam. We we got to do something about. No, man,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: it's pro sports. You're making this z. What does Cassio
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: make twenty four million? I think, like, lord, yeah, dude,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: and I get it, but like this is what's best
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: for wait for it, the team, Like I just I
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: We had tyle Cott on the radio show on Tuesday
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: when We're at OTA's phenomenal interview by the way. Great guy,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: and you know I mean been, he's been, He's He
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: has over twenty current transactions in his NFL career in
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: three years, and they include d undrafted free agents, signing,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: cut practice, squad, elevation, cut, released, brought back all these things.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: The guy started eleven games last year. They drafted guy
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: in the second round in Bud Clark, who could take
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: his place with with Kobe Bryant gohn Ocatta's spot. No,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: maybe he'll be his. I'm watching him in practice the
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: other day of the OTAs he's grabbing Bud Clark after
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: every rep and going do this, do this, like coaching
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: them up. You don't see that in baseball, Like we're
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: not seeing that right now.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: There is an element of that of that sport and
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 5: the nature of the contracts, and also probably the personality
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: that it takes to be a starting pitcher. But you're right,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: and I would say that like it's on them to
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 5: accept the reality and if they can't, I'm just not
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: going to worry about it, Like, Okay, that can be
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: your choice and that, but we're not going to cater
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: to making you feel good. The job is to win games,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 5: and we're going to do what we think is best
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: to win. That there's not every decision that Dan Wilson
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: has made or executed. Then I'm like, hey, I totally
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: get that. Like this is one where I'm like, Okay,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 5: maybe Gota communicated it better, but this I actually think
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: the rationale Ford is really sound.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: Well, I think to Danny one of the problems. First
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: of all, I kind of feel bad for Dan in
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: this situation because I think he's been told how to execute.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: He's You've got to execute this weird situation that they
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: do in the minor leagues. Like we have talked about
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: this a lot, but it's a very minor league thing. Well,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: minor league baseballs, we know is different major legue baseball.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: You're doing the minor leagues. Why because you don't care
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: about winning and losing by and large. Sorry, I mean
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: that's just the reality. And then but two, like you
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: just said, got to keep them stretched out, so you
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: might go with two with two starters, and that's the plan.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: I think what it sounded like happened in our buddy
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Daniel Kramer from MLB dot com rade a great story.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: We had him on yesterday's Terrific. Alright, I guess Wednesday,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: he said, and I loved it was just a lack
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: of communication. Well, Wit a second, are you telling me
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: that Jerry Depoto had a lack of communication problem that's
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: never happened, Like, come on, I mean king of communication,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: the guy that has the gift to gad like nobody else,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: but fifty four percent or not telling your pictures what's
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: going on? And I listen, I think Jerry, We all
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: think Jerry.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: Listen.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: He's a hell of a job on the field. Communication
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: apparently is not his strong suit. That's just not part
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: of the that's not part of.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 5: His REPORI yeah, it's been tough at times. As we've
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 5: been talking, I think I've come up with an alternative,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: alternative terminology that could actually include some marketing benefits. Okay,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 5: instead of saying it's a piggyback arrangement, we're gonna call
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 5: them the tag team Champions of the World.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, let's go Luis the rock Castell give it way.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 4: Brice and fire Miller.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: Think, oh god, well he brings out a favor.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: They do.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 5: They have a they have a high five at at
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 5: the pitching mat when they exchange. So you have a
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 5: hot tag and in comes incomes Castillo as a house
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: of fire. I think Tag Team Champions work.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: I like it.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: I like, I mean, end of the day. The thing
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: that's weird is that you're thinking of these guys, we're
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: kind of keeping him stretched out because we're expecting someone
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: to get hurt and we're gonna need the six starter.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: That like, right, that's kind that's kind of part of it.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: It's like almost a doomsday kind of situation going on
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: right now. But at the same time, with these guys,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: it's worked. It's absolutely like in terms of if you
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: look at just the results, I guess when I say
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: it's worked, right, it's worked on the field. Now they
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: Munos blew the save here. I get that that was
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: kind of handled poorly, But just in terms of what
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: the starters have produced, how Castile specifically has looked, He's
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: looked his best at he has in a long ass time.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, it's kind of working right now, so
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: let's just let's embrace it. But no, we're in Seattle
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: and this we brought this up earlier, Danny, I've never
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: when we talked to them ALLIWOP guys on Monday, the
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: vitriol that's attached to this team this year is amazing,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: Like people want to be mad at them for whatever reason.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: It's like, guys, there's got a lot of things going on.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: CALSR Donovan's or who should be a lead off hit?
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: Or you've got some really poor defensive players. I don't
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: care what res Nunder did on Wednesday. He can't hit
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: like you go through the whole list. He's the new
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: Aj Pollock. But they're still going to win the division.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: They're going to be a playoff team. You can't, I think, Danny.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: You tell me I can't judge this team fully until
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: we get to November first and we see what they'd
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: accomplished or didn't accomplish this year.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: Well, that's definitely true. They have a bad division, so
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 5: they should be in it. It's hard to imagine a
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 5: situation given the injuries they've already had, the fact that
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 5: they they've survived, that they're not in a hole that
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 5: they're going to be. They're going to be in the
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 5: conversation for the playoffs, and I agree with you. The
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: ultimate resolution is going to be how this season plays out.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 5: If they don't make the postseason clear failure. But even
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: if they do make the postseason by winning a bad division.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: I don't think that's going to make everybody happy. I
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 5: would agree with you. I think we need to wait
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 5: until the end of the season to see how we
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 5: feel about it.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: I just I would be you know, if I was
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: at Snowclamie Casino right now and they said, here's the deal.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: You can bet the Mariners to win the Ale West
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: or the field the rest of the teams in the
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: Ale West, I would take the Mariners one hundred times
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: out of one hundred, not even it's they're a and
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: at some point Cal's going to be healthy. Now he's
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: not going to produce what he did last year, but
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: that makes you better, you know. Donovan. Donovan's the one
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: that's weird. I don't know if he's going to get healthy.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: Like the whole growing thing is weird. It's but listen,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: watching what cold Emerson did on Wednesday and really through
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: the road trip before for four game included all those things.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot to like about this baseball team,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: and it probably starts with the six pitchers, including the
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: two that are like, well, there's four pitchers, and then
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: there's the piggyback picture, which I guess is two guys,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: but it's one. I'm not sure which. So is it
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: a four man rotation? Is it a four and a
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: half man rotation? I don't can't even figure out what
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: a rotation is with the piggy back.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 5: Stuffed into a five man bag.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: Oh god, that's a thank you. You know, hey, you
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: know you know who absolutely hates the piggyback term. You'll
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: be stunned to know this. Our friend Softy, like he
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: just t list it's it's it's one of those things
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: that just drives him in. Like if you were to
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: say you can only have one his favorite game, uh,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: and you'd never have to hear it again. Kenny Wheaton's
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: going to score or piggyback?
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: What would it be?
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: It might be a tough choice for him.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 5: So well, maybe that'll I'll become an advocate of piggyback,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 5: just to be a burn inside thorn in his saddle.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: I think that's a good call on your part. Tell
• 1:23:34
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  Speaker 5: You can go to Danny Oneil dot com. You enter
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  Speaker 1: great stuff. We'll talk to you next week, my friend.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 6: Sounds good.
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  Speaker 1: five of the Eastern Conference Final, Montreal trailing three to
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  Speaker 1: one Carolina WEDNESDA night. They move on to the Stanley
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  Speaker 1: Cup Final, which will be start I think next Wednesday
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  Speaker 1: against the Vegas Golden Knights. Three times the Canadians in
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  Speaker 1: franchise history have rallied from a three to one deficit
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  Speaker 1: to come back and win a series. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: just I just saw one of those, Claude, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think so. I We'll get to him in a second.
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  Speaker 1: Actually what you just seen? Sorry, yeah, we'll get to
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  Speaker 1: that in a second. I'll this the only once in
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  Speaker 1: NHL O history has a team come back down three
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  Speaker 1: to one in the conference finals. Oh really and won
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  Speaker 1: a series? Like you hear that all the time at
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: three to zero three? Oh yeah, three one? You don't
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  Speaker 1: hear it that that much, right, But only one in
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  Speaker 1: conference so to get to the Stanley Cup Final. Only
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  Speaker 1: one team has ever been trailing three to one in
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  Speaker 1: a conference final come back and win to get to
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  Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup Final. I don't think it's going to
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  Speaker 1: happen tonight either.
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  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, the rally behind there El yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Chiap el Chipo is uh El Chiapo, the Blazer's owner
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  Speaker 1: is going to be uh on the way to the
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  Speaker 1: Stanley Cup Final, and that'll beach in some people's eyes.
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  Speaker 1: That will validate his how he runs his teams, which
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  Speaker 1: is ridiculous, but it's ridiculous good. Uh yeah, just real
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  Speaker 1: quick on the cloud of the new stuff, Greg, Greg
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  Speaker 1: and Chris did a great job at the started their
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  Speaker 1: show today talking about mental health, mental health awareness, and
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: you know, all over the place, you're seeing people not
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  Speaker 1: just in the hockey world, but others athletes specifically saying,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: you know, check on your friends, check on your teammates,
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  Speaker 1: check on your family members, and so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 1: And I think we're a lot more in tune to
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: mental health and mental health mental health challenges, and we
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  Speaker 1: have it in the past. But despite how much more
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  Speaker 1: in tune we are with it, I thought Luke falk
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: in the first salary said it really well, like there's
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  Speaker 1: still a tremendous resistance for people, especially young men, to
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  Speaker 1: ask for help. Claude Lemi was not young. He was
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: a sixty year old man, but same thing. Obviously was
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: suffering greatly internally and didn't say anything and took his
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  Speaker 1: own life and it's just it's tragic beyond means. Now
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: you're going to hear the normal CTE conversation come up
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: and all those things, and certainly could have had a
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: factor in it, but outwardly, the outward like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times, if you you'll see some other issues. Outwardly,
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  Speaker 1: he was apparently fine in the minds of many.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And you know when I asked Luke about like, is
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  Speaker 1: it better now than it was since he you know,
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Rilensky was his teammate, who was his backup? Uh,
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  Speaker 1: he said, yeah, there's maybe there's some more resources, but
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of it's just cuya cover.
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  Speaker 4: Year, you know what, which is unfortunate.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just a tragedy, man, it's just such a
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: it's I think it's I think the tragic part of
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: it too is anytime you see someone die by suicide,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: you asked the inevitable questions like wow, really do we
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: see signs? And why would he do that? And almost
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: every single time you look around and you say, well,
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  Speaker 1: there's why this is called the news case. His son
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  Speaker 1: he's got he's a grandfather. You know, kid was a
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: professional he is still a professional hockey player. I think
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: he plays in Europe now, but uh has has grandkids.
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  Speaker 1: This is the time to enjoy life. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: made enough money to enjoy life, not enough, not enough.
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  Speaker 1: So I guess I would echo those same things. If
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  Speaker 1: you think someone's struggling or if you think someone's having
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: a hard time, try to have that conversation.
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  Speaker 4: And those aren't easy. I don't know if you've ever
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  Speaker 4: had one of those andrews with somebody. It's not easy
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  Speaker 4: to have. No, not easy. Yeah, Unfortunately I have a
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  Speaker 4: few times, and it's it's like you said, it's not easy.
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  Speaker 4: Especially people are your close to right and that you know,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: maybe don't take those conversations as seriously as you know
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  Speaker 4: you do. Maybe they don't realize that they're having those
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  Speaker 4: issues and you do that. That's where there's tons of
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: different ways that those you know, discussions come up, and
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  Speaker 4: just it's always good to check in however you can.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: And that looks different for each person, but it's.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of those it's one of those things that
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  Speaker 1: is a challenge to have and do asking people if
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  Speaker 1: you think there's a problem or if they need help.
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  Speaker 1: I think the other part is if you're that person,
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  Speaker 1: asking for help is a challenge as well.
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  Speaker 4: And it's a it's a cliche, but it's it's a
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  Speaker 4: sign of strength and a weakness. I agree.
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  Speaker 1: You know that there's the number to call that was
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  Speaker 1: at nine to eighty eight and stuff. I don't think someone
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  Speaker 1: that's I mean, I know people do use it and
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  Speaker 1: utilize that, and I think it's it's a good resource
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  Speaker 1: to have. I think oftentimes though you don't hear that
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  Speaker 1: right like, you don't you don't get to that point
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  Speaker 1: where you feel like you're comfortable making that phone call.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe it's a loved one or what have you.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, the cloud, the mew thing hit home for
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people.
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  Speaker 4: This week.
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  Speaker 1: It hits home for us. We got the golf. I
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  Speaker 1: have the golf tournament coming up on July tenth, and
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  Speaker 1: I think the Lensky family will be out here. I
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  Speaker 1: think Mark and Kim are going to be out here
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  Speaker 1: again and they'll tell the story of Tyler and what
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  Speaker 1: they do. And I just, I just I love the
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  Speaker 1: fact that you know, for the most part, our listeners
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  Speaker 1: on this station are the ones that play in that tournament.
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  Speaker 1: They come out and they donate, they buy raffle tickets,
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  Speaker 1: they put money into it. And one of the cool
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  Speaker 1: things about that is we know there's a tangible result.
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  Speaker 1: So when you come out and play and that thing
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  Speaker 1: that you're doing good work and you're helping you're helping
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  Speaker 1: somebody out. And every year you can, honest to God,
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  Speaker 1: believe that you are helping somebody out, not just mental health,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: the research for Avery Huffman. And the other one is
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  Speaker 1: the Jordan Morris Foundation. That's a tangible thing too. We're
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  Speaker 1: able to help up at their soccer camp for kids
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  Speaker 1: with diabetes. And also Jordan does great work at Children's Hospital.
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  Speaker 1: They put together these care packages for kids who've been
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  Speaker 1: recently diagnosed with type one.
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  Speaker 4: So and what I love about Jordan and his work
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  Speaker 4: with that is he doesn't make it super like public
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  Speaker 4: and outward facing and like this is like I'm posting
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  Speaker 4: about it all the time. He does it because it's
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  Speaker 4: something he truly believes in and he spends his own
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  Speaker 4: time on it without really kind of needing the to
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  Speaker 4: be seen.
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  Speaker 1: Well and I've said this. I've said this many times.
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Morris is a hero absolutely to a lot of
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  Speaker 1: young people. And he gives a lot of young people
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  Speaker 1: who have Type one diabetes. A lot of young kids.
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  Speaker 1: He gives them and the ability and the opportunity to think, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I can I can do something. I'm not going to be,
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  Speaker 1: you know, inhibited and prohibited from doing what I want
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: to do in life because of this disease. So good stuff.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we'll take you right, come back. Well, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to that.
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  Speaker 4: I'll do that. I'll tease that, ye tease of breaking news.
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  Speaker 4: We're a little breaking. It's not massively breaking, but it's
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  Speaker 1: It's good. It's good news. We'll tell you about that.
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  Speaker 1: just in terms of it's good to get. It Done
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  Speaker 1: tom pellisero the. First Report jadarian price has signed his
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  Speaker 1: contract With The. Seattle seahawks so every draft picks under
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: contract now With the hawks and their first round pick.
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  Speaker 1: Is done so they'll go and do next week's OTAs
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  Speaker 1: and then the mini camp the week after with everybody,
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  Speaker 1: under contract and away we go. Off season is basically
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  Speaker 1: kind of put. To bet, No drama.
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  Speaker 4: No, Drama Well, DEVIN wetherspoon, i GUESS but i don't
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  Speaker 4: think that's that hasn't hit drama level for. Me, Yet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah GREG and i talked about that in cross talk the.
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  Speaker 1: OTHER day i don't Know. The witherspoons there's time to get.
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  Speaker 1: It done there's plenty of time to get.
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  Speaker 4: It, done yeah a lot of. People forget we talked.
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  Speaker 4: ABOUT this i talked About the corbyn last night In my.
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  Speaker 4: Seahawks show he has two, years left, not, one right
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  Speaker 4: because well one. Plus one the, team options the, team. Options,
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  Speaker 4: right yes so really they don't have to if they don't.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 4: Want to but if you If the seahawks feel like
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 4: he's going to have as good of a year as,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 4: they do you almost want to get it. Done early
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: SO and.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: I think that's the that's that's the that's what we're.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: Talking about because his price tag is not going to probably,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: go down his price tag will. GO up i also
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: think that's why THEY. Prioritize jsn totally AGREE because jsn
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  Speaker 1: is coming off a wait, for it Record Breaking offensive
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: player Of the year IN the, nfl season and you
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  Speaker 1: needed to get that thing done and, figured out and.
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  Speaker 1: They did, and listen you, can multitask that's part of
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: what you do AS. A GM but i think getting
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  Speaker 1: that done first was, a strong strong priority.
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  Speaker 4: For them and.
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  Speaker 1: They did and now you work On on WITHERSPOON and
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: i don't think there's any doubt they're going to get
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: something done.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 4: With him he's a.
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  Speaker 1: Cornerstone piece of. The franchise, you know IN, today's nfl
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: there's only so many ways for guys to go get,
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  Speaker 1: paid elsewhere, YOU know, i mean not everybody has. Cap
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  Speaker 1: room and he's a. McDonald guy it'll. Get done it's
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  Speaker 1: JUST it's i think what you, said though kind of
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: a drama free offseason.
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  Speaker 4: Sort.
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  Speaker 1: Of yeah, You Know DeMarcus lawrence back at camp and,
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: you know dealing with the child.
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  Speaker 4: Number six god can't even. Imagine, That wow i'm here
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: sweating bullets, with one he's.
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  Speaker 1: Got two he's got a one year old and now
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  Speaker 1: a newborn?
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  Speaker 4: Getting?
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  Speaker 1: Busy buddy is that called the what's the term?
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  Speaker 2: For that?
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  Speaker 4: Irish twins something?
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  Speaker 1: Like that, he listen he's either he's either he's Either
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: roaming catholic Or. He's mormon he's one of, the two
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: because like something's going, on there like they're just. Coming out,
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: it's like here's twins one, year apart two.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: Siblings born from the same mother within a span of
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 4: twelve months.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: Or, Less man i'll be honest, With, you man my
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: wife don't want to look at me for about three
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: years after the.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 4: First one i'm in that phase.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: Now ian you know what it's like all you dudes,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: out there you know what. It's, like yeah that that
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: kid comes and she's looking, at, you going do you
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: know what you did? To me do you know what?
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: YOU did, I mean god Blessed The marcus lawrence because.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: He did he had done it four, times already five.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: Times already, but yeah that's the look. You get you
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  Speaker 1: get the look of what you did.
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  Speaker 2: To ME.
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  Speaker 1: What i always used to LIKE and i could. Sense,
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  Speaker 1: It YEAH and i, would, say.
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  Speaker 4: Well do you?
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  Speaker 1: Love her she's a beautiful. Little baby exactly what do?
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: YOU want i always kind. OF took i tried to turn,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: it around didn't, always Work but, i'd, say listen listen,
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: here here you've got a. Beautiful daughter that's what you.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: Always wanted you had two brothers, growing up and you've got. A,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: DAUGHTER yeah i did that, For you like. That's me
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: give me some. Credit here and they're looking at you
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: like want no part.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 4: Of you you just you.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: Destroyed, ME yeah i mean that's what's. Our guy our
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: guys is he he's like four and, a half five.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: Years apart they're five.
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  Speaker 2: Years.
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  Speaker 4: Apart, Yeah yeah i'm three from my sister and then
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 4: eight from my.
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  Speaker 1: Youngest, brother, yeah, yeah yeah you're Gonna be you're gonna
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: find yourself unless your Name Is DeMarcus lawrence apparently or
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: My Buddy matt Connley From Georgetown roman catholic Are the,
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: Catholic baby you're going to, find yourself you and your
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: lovely wife over the next year. Or so do we
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: want to do? This again are we going to do?
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 4: This again and it becomes a logistical issue at, that point.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: It, does well, it's, Expensive, right listen it was expensive
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: for me back in, the day.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 4: And our kids. Are twenties can imagine.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: It now it's, it's stupid, it's crazy. All right, so
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah Jab darian price got to come back. To that,
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: he is he is, Under contract he, is, signed sealed
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: delivered For. The seahawks. Good news they just get all.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: That stuff, and, now, HONESTLY yeah i just Worry about
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: witherspoon whatever else you want. To Do the mariners tonight
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: start the series Against The. Arizona diamondbacks sunday's Gonna get
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: ino the. Piggyback game they're gonna. FLIP flop i guess
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: will be the, third one so they'll go back in.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 4: The rotation.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: This Time bryce miller starts And then castilla will. Come
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: in the good news is if They take, miller out
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: then there won't be like you don't have to you,
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: can go he can get mad and go back into.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: The clubhouse it's not like Playing, in sacramento where it's
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: a spring. Training game you have to do the walk
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: of shame out to the out to, the clubhouse which
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: is like, right field so everything everybody can see you
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: pissed off and pouting in. The, DUGOUT no, i don't
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: they won't, be that but they'll do that Again. On
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: Sunday daniel kramer joined us the, other day wrote a
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  Speaker 1: great STORY at mlb. Dot com he covers THE for mlb.
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  Speaker 1: Dot com if you Don't know, daniel's work you should go.
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  Speaker 1: FIND it mlb dot com does a. Great JOB and
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  Speaker 1: i wanted to get in with him with this conversation
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  Speaker 1: With with daniel because we talked about really what was
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  Speaker 1: the issue and he kind of explains and he wrote
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  Speaker 1: a big story. About it but the piggyback issue on
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  Speaker 1: listen on, the field it's, worked right like in terms
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  Speaker 1: of what, the Starters what Miller and castillle have done
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  Speaker 1: in Their two, piggyback appearances it's, Worked, correct yes like
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  Speaker 1: the numbers. Don't lie it has. DEFINITELY worked i know
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  Speaker 1: what happened in this in the, first One That's emuno's.
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  Speaker 1: Wilson whatever we can kind of go through, that sure but, executed,
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  Speaker 1: Right right but what in terms Of. What castile first,
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  Speaker 1: Of all castile's, look great and that's.
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  Speaker 2: The, Big.
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  Speaker 4: Overarch chob the Only thing i'm worried about is getting. Him,
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  Speaker 4: right honestly when You, see.
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  Speaker 1: Luise when you see the rock coming in and being, The,
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  Speaker 1: rock yeah and he's touched in high nineties and, HE'S
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  Speaker 1: confident i KIND of i think, You know sarah said this.
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  Speaker 1: TOO yesterday i kind of like a Pissed, Off Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: LUIS castillo I think i. Do too he pitches with, an,
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  Speaker 1: attitude right. That's okay all that, is okay you want
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  Speaker 1: that to be. The case but the problem is is
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  Speaker 1: neither guy is happy. WITH it a lot of feelings in.
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  Speaker 1: Play here so what was the? Biggest issue it. Was
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  Speaker 1: communication we talked about That With.
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  Speaker 8: Daniel kramer it's a complicated SITUATION because, i THINK as
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  Speaker 8: i wrote about last night and the story's up, right
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  Speaker 8: now that communication seemed, to be, you know the most
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  Speaker 8: contentious part of what led to the Frustration from luis
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  Speaker 8: when we saw him play his glove and in the,
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  Speaker 8: dugout bench which YOU know I posted i've never seen
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  Speaker 8: that before. From him that type of frustration he very
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  Speaker 8: well might have in, other moments, you know over the past,
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  Speaker 8: few seasons but because the clubhouses all the way and,
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  Speaker 8: left field he was kind of left there in the
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  Speaker 8: dugout for a full inning and a half to absorb
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  Speaker 8: some of those. Raw emotions and you know that lengths
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  Speaker 8: to the platform of being on that stage for pretty
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  Speaker 8: much everybody.
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  Speaker 4: To see so there was that part.
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  Speaker 8: Of it And then bryce, in particular, you know not
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  Speaker 8: being informed of what the game plan is for how
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  Speaker 8: he's going to, be used whether he's starting, or relieving,
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  Speaker 8: you know just not getting a ton of advanced notice
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  Speaker 8: from the coaching staff on that they met yesterday to
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  Speaker 8: try to clear all of that up and, you know
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  Speaker 8: make sure that both guys are on the same page
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  Speaker 8: and understanding about the benefits to this and the long
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  Speaker 8: term solution to having, you know what they believe and
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  Speaker 8: which is a. Fair argument you know that the best
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  Speaker 8: problem the sport has, to offer which is six healthy
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  Speaker 8: and what they believe is capable starters and the fact
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  Speaker 8: that you started To See luis turney corner a little
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  Speaker 8: bit more lends credence to why they're.
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  Speaker 4: Doing this.
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  Speaker 8: You know the other factor in, this is, You know
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  Speaker 8: bryce has had as dynamite as, he's looked he's had
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  Speaker 8: workload challenges over the past, twelve months, you know whether
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  Speaker 8: it's the bone spurs and his pitching elbow, last year
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  Speaker 8: obviously the oblique strain that led into.
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  Speaker 4: THIS season.
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  Speaker 8: I don't think they're really questioning his durability and they
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  Speaker 8: want to maximize. His potential but, on paper if you
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  Speaker 8: were to look at of those, six arms which is
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  Speaker 8: the clearest to go to, the bullpen it would Probably.
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  Speaker 8: Beat bryce and then if you go down, that route
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  Speaker 8: how's that going to impact? His confidence because he's at
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  Speaker 8: a sky high. Level now he, feels good, he's healthy
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  Speaker 8: he's coming, off of, you know a really epic postseason,
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  Speaker 8: as well and how he finished that year on a.
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  Speaker 8: High note so they don't want to compromise any of.
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  Speaker 8: That either the part, about okay so if that's if
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  Speaker 8: that's the plan to not move him to, the bullpen
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  Speaker 8: then are you going To? Move louise well, you could but,
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  Speaker 8: you KNOW as i kind of wrote about if you
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  Speaker 8: go to, the bullpen even on a short, term basis
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  Speaker 8: and you don't use this, piggyback strategy daily availability is
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  Speaker 8: going to. Be Vital so luis would have to transition
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  Speaker 8: into a routine where he's prepared to pitch in one
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  Speaker 8: to two inning bursts on potentially back to. Back, days
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  Speaker 8: again this is something he's never done before in. His
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  Speaker 8: career pitching him relief, at all but then adjusting to
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  Speaker 8: that full time. Relief, routine now, you know that might
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  Speaker 8: have benefits to it and align better for a five
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  Speaker 8: man rotation where you're using your five best and most.
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  Speaker 8: Consistent arms but if one of those guys were to,
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  Speaker 8: go down it would take an extended period To restretch luis,
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  Speaker 8: back out and then you kind of hamstring your hamstrung
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  Speaker 8: yourself from the benefit of having six healthy and. Capable starters,
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  Speaker 8: YOU know i would it, Take, months no but it could,
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  Speaker 8: take weeks, you know just given that you're throwing his
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  Speaker 8: routine off and, you know forcing him to make adjustments
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  Speaker 8: that he's he's never done before in, his career and
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  Speaker 8: how that would impact him upon a potential return to
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  Speaker 8: the rotation if they were to suffer.
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  Speaker 5: Another.
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  Speaker 1: Injury, DAH yeah, i, KNOW yeah i. GOT it i
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  Speaker 1: was just, gonna say like one of THE things i
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  Speaker 1: thought Was Interesting daniel CREMER at mlb, Dot com and
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  Speaker 1: you wrote about this because we, all, thought okay six,
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  Speaker 1: man ROTATION but i think what, you said and this.
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  Speaker 1: Is interesting they don't want to take away Starts from
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  Speaker 1: kirby Wo, and, Gilbert right that's that's like that that
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  Speaker 1: kind of one of the priorities here is they don't
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  Speaker 1: want those guys to, lose starts right.
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  Speaker 2: For.
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  Speaker 8: Sure, YEAH now i Mean like brian Was Their all star.
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  Speaker 8: Last year he was their, Best. Arm george, you know
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  Speaker 8: he's scuffled a little bit, of late but has arguably
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  Speaker 8: been their most consistent, you know a case it also
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  Speaker 8: be Made For emerson hancock in that regard. As well
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  Speaker 8: and if you talk about guys transitioning to, the bullpen
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  Speaker 8: like can You Imagine logan gilbert, Doing that like with
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  Speaker 8: all of the extensive routine that he, goes through not
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  Speaker 8: just on his in, between starts but like on his.
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  Speaker 8: START day, i mean he's got so much going on
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  Speaker 8: like that would just not be an option for them.
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  Speaker 8: As well so it's a, complicated spot, you know like
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  Speaker 8: we kind of foresaw that a situation where not everybody
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  Speaker 8: was going to be happy about how this has. PLAYED
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  Speaker 8: out i think it was compounded a little bit more
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  Speaker 8: clearly based on the, communication standpoint Specifically with Louise, and
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  Speaker 8: bryce which they took steps towards alleviating yesterday by sitting
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  Speaker 8: both of those. Guys Down dan wilson And Then pete
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  Speaker 8: woodworth was, also there and then Shortly thereafter jerry to
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  Speaker 8: potem that with them one on one to supplement the
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  Speaker 8: coaching messaging with the front. Office logic and, you know
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  Speaker 8: based on you Know what i've heard and The people i've,
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  Speaker 8: talked to that those conversations ended with both players being
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  Speaker 8: more receptive to what's going on.
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  Speaker 4: Right NOW and i think that's the most.
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  Speaker 1: Important thing what, You know daniel said there at, the
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  Speaker 1: end is that, you know both players are more receptive.
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  Speaker 1: To It ino sarah's if you missed our conversation with
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  Speaker 1: our our baseball guy From the Athletic and Rats and,
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  Speaker 1: burrell's podcast just so he's kind he's kind of a,
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  Speaker 1: pitching guy like that's kind of. His, expertise yeah and
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  Speaker 1: we talked to him about it yesterday and like, he said.
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  Speaker 1: He goes the problem is that you are you are
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  Speaker 1: probably you're in a situation now where you want to
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  Speaker 1: keep both those guys to the point where they can
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  Speaker 1: start and go extended innings the second you put one
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  Speaker 1: in full time as a, bullpen guy and more than
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  Speaker 1: likely it Would Be, cas steele But. Maybe miller as
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  Speaker 1: soon as you, do that and then all of, a
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  Speaker 1: sudden you do need like, something happens a guy gets. Banged,
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  Speaker 1: up well it doesn't take long for a guy not
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  Speaker 1: to be able to quote be. Stretched out it takes
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  Speaker 1: longer for him to get stretched. Back out so everything
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  Speaker 1: about it seems to kind of, make sense except for
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  Speaker 1: you're dealing with major. League egos and that's the difference
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  Speaker 1: because this is a big thing they do in the
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  Speaker 1: minor leagues all. The time minor leagues. Do this you
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  Speaker 1: have multiple Starters IN double A OR, triple a and
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  Speaker 1: you start and we've talked. About that chris brought this
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  Speaker 1: up first when the thing first. CAME up I Think
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  Speaker 1: chris crawford brought this up with this, because guys this
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  Speaker 1: is something that's done in the minor leagues all. The
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  Speaker 1: time but the difference there is that they don't care
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  Speaker 1: about winning and there wait, for it minor league players
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  Speaker 1: in the, Case here luis castile that dude deserves some
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  Speaker 1: equity and has equity in, the league not just because
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  Speaker 1: of what the contract, looks like because of what. He's
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  Speaker 1: Accomplished And bryce miller's his only issue is getting banged
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  Speaker 1: up and not being available. Every game but you're dealing
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  Speaker 1: with major league eggles and and That's why i've kind
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  Speaker 1: of said. All on my big thing HERE is i
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  Speaker 1: feel bad if if that's the right Word For. DAN
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  Speaker 1: wilson i think he's been kind of put in a,
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  Speaker 1: tough situation Especially as daniel laid it out. Right there
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  Speaker 1: the communication wasn't perfect from. The start we Talked About
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  Speaker 1: daniel neal earlier.
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  Speaker 4: And that's that's a guy that works for. The team by,
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  Speaker 4: The Way danny kramer for those who Don't KNOW. Daniels mlb,
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  Speaker 4: But yeah daniel does. Awesome, Work right he's there every,
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  Speaker 4: single day travels with, the team all. That stuff and
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  Speaker 4: that's ABOUT as i don't want to, say critical IT'S
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  Speaker 4: just i think demonstrating.
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  Speaker 1: The situation you know what He was he, was, honest
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  Speaker 1: yes and he took us in behind.
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  Speaker 4: The, scenes yeah that.
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  Speaker 1: Was great, BUT yeah, i THINK but i think in
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  Speaker 1: the end it works like it's it's worked on. The
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  Speaker 1: field it just hasn't worked in terms of who the
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  Speaker 1: uh what he? McAll it who? The uh the egos
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  Speaker 1: of the. Players involved but we'll see it Again on
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  Speaker 1: sunday against. Again probably here's the. Other thing softie brought.
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  Speaker 2: It up.
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  Speaker 1: Great point the two teams are done it against have them?
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  Speaker 2: Very?
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  Speaker 1: Good, Right right so it's, good point. YOU know, i
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  Speaker 1: mean that's that's the other side. Of, IT god i
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  Speaker 1: leve this. Text here what? IS it a pisted off
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  Speaker 1: rock is better than a pisted?
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  Speaker 5: On?
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  Speaker 1: Rock oh. Very, TRUE hey i didn't vote. On it
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  Speaker 1: i'm gonna look. AND see i think it's here the
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  Speaker 1: there Was a.
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  Speaker 4: SOPHIE'S poll.
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  Speaker 1: I know i thought the station did. A poll, THE
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  Speaker 1: station i think BECAUSE when i say, THE station i
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  Speaker 1: think in the morning show?
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  Speaker 4: Did it which one or? WHICH poll I guess i,
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  Speaker 4: should say.
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  Speaker 1: Would you vote for a? Salary? Cap yeah there's only forty?
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  Speaker 1: Four votes the hell's?
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  Speaker 4: Going on let's. Get that let's get. That up is it? Still,
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  Speaker 4: active yeah let's go remember tweeting that if you.
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  Speaker 1: Had a vote in THE, upcoming mlb if you had
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  Speaker 1: a vote in THE UPCOMING mlb. Cba negotiations did you
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  Speaker 1: vote for a salary cap?
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  Speaker 4: Or not yes? Or no and why what would you?
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  Speaker 4: Vote for it's a tough one. FOR me i would probably,
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  Speaker 4: say yes mainly because that comes with the floor. As
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  Speaker 4: well and if it changes the other parts of the
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  Speaker 4: game that are, you know broken, as well including the,
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  Speaker 4: service time manipulation and all, that STUFF then i think all.
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  Speaker 4: Encompassing yes but if you're just, asking ME do i
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  Speaker 4: Think Major league baseball needs a? Salary cap yes? OR
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  Speaker 4: no i personally, say NO but i vote yes because
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  Speaker 4: of everything else that comes.
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  Speaker 2: With it how?
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  Speaker 1: About, THAT see i like what. YOU said i spent
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  Speaker 1: some time this MORNING because i went back our Conversations
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  Speaker 1: with joe with, You know softi's cross, talk Yesterday and.
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  Speaker 1: I'M torn, I honestly i'm. Really torn first, Of all
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  Speaker 1: i'm Pretty much i'm pretty convinced that we are in
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  Speaker 1: a situation now where we're gonna have some sort of.
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  Speaker 4: Work stoppage.
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  Speaker 1: My hope is it's at the start of next year
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  Speaker 1: and not at the end of the year or something.
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  Speaker 4: Like, that, yeah which? Who cares that's a win?
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  Speaker 1: For that actually is you know what that's that IS
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  Speaker 1: not i think. Of it that's a, huge win.
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  Speaker 2: Huge win that is a.
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  Speaker 1: HUGE win i think, for, Me honestly i'm torn for.
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  Speaker 1: THIS reason i think what you said about the ceiling or,
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  Speaker 1: the basement, the floor whatever you want to, CALL it
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  Speaker 1: i think that. IS needed i do think. THAT'S needed
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  Speaker 1: i think there's some optics. INVOLVED here i think that
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  Speaker 1: the salary cap isn't a bad idea because the range
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  Speaker 1: that we were, talking about guys are still going to, get,
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  Speaker 1: Paid right they're.
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  Speaker 4: Still going to.
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  Speaker 1: Get paid AND so i think in THE end i
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  Speaker 1: would vote yes for the salary cap because of what,
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  Speaker 1: you said and because of the bigger thing that we've
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  Speaker 1: talked About with joe and you know And other just
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  Speaker 1: give me. That bit like to Have A Major league?
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  Speaker 1: Baseball payroll it was eighty? Five million is that the?
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  Speaker 1: Lowest ones how many are below one?
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  Speaker 4: Hundred million do?
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  Speaker 1: You know i'll look pull up the list, real Quick
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  Speaker 1: because i'm just going to throw this. Out there baseball
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  Speaker 1: players make far more than. Hockey players the rosters are
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: not exactly the, same size but within two or three
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  Speaker 1: players of like one's twenty, three ish the other one's,
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  Speaker 1: twenty five.
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  Speaker 4: Twenty six it depends on what metric you're, going by
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  Speaker 4: because there's different payrolls for different. Like calculations but The
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  Speaker 4: one i'm looking at is six teams.
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  Speaker 1: Six teams below a, hundred million WHICH the nhl salary
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  Speaker 1: caps in. The nineties now think. About, that yeah LIKE an.
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  Speaker 1: Nhl players IF an nhl player makes more than six million,
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  Speaker 1: a year he's very. Well paid highest Paid guy caprisov
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  Speaker 1: what in the? Mid, Teens, right yeah. That's Enough least
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  Speaker 1: cassio makes twenty, four, million right like it's it is
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  Speaker 1: McDavid makes?
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  Speaker 4: What.
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  Speaker 1: Fourteen yeah it is kind of embarrassing that you have
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  Speaker 1: Teams In Major league baseball that are paying, that little
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: that are trying that little to. Be competitive and that's what,
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  Speaker 1: it is because you're just not trying, To win you're
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  Speaker 1: not trying to. Be competitive. COMPETITIVE balance i think you
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: can argue both ways, against it like do we really need? Competitive,
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  Speaker 1: balance well it's up to, each market but you should
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  Speaker 1: if you're going to be the steward of a franchise
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  Speaker 1: and own, a team you should be forced to pay a,
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  Speaker 1: certain amount right like you. Should be and the fact
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  Speaker 1: that you have teams THAT aren't i think. That's RIDICULOUS
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  Speaker 1: so i think that because of this of, The floor
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  Speaker 1: i'm all in the perception With.
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  Speaker 4: THE dodgers i don't.
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  Speaker 1: HATE that. I like, I mean i'm glad they're not in.
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  Speaker 1: Our division i'm glad they're not in our league, out
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  Speaker 1: here In The american league Or The American. League WEST
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  Speaker 1: but i do like having the. BAD guys i do
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  Speaker 1: like having a. Team that, you know When the patriots,
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: were great it. Was fun, you know When the lakers
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  Speaker 1: have been had a dynasty, in basketball. It's, Fun, warriors
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  Speaker 1: warriors people loved them or, hated, Them right dodgers are the.
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  Speaker 1: Same one they've, won one and they've.
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  Speaker 2: WON one, i know.
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  Speaker 4: If you're, going there they've.
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  Speaker 1: Won one now people can. Hate them. It's true absolutely they. Can,
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  Speaker 1: Hate right they're starting to not just us Here in.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: Seattle exactly wazoo takes the lead three, to two but
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: they blew a. Massive opportunity some guy Looks Like jeff
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  Speaker 1: spiccoley came in and shut him down three.
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  Speaker 4: To two heading to the bottom of, the eighth second,
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  Speaker 4: and third nobody out and you don't get base, is loaded,
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  Speaker 4: bases loaded base, is loaded, my god and they got only.
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• 2:03:14
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• 2:03:51
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• 2:03:56
  Speaker 4: baseball that was part of their, proposal, Yesterday right so
• 2:04:00
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• 2:04:15
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• 2:04:17
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• 2:04:20
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• 2:04:21
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• 2:04:25
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• 2:04:37
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• 2:04:39
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• 2:05:10
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• 2:05:13
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• 2:05:32
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• 2:05:43
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• 2:06:07
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• 2:06:12
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• 2:06:14
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• 2:06:16
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• 2:06:34
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• 2:06:41
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• 2:06:45
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• 2:06:48
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• 2:06:51
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• 2:06:53
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• 2:06:54
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• 2:06:58
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• 2:07:03
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• 2:07:08
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• 2:07:11
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• 2:07:12
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• 2:07:16
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• 2:07:19
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• 2:07:29
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• 2:07:32
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• 2:07:37
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• 2:07:42
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  Speaker 1: he's Either At cheney stadium or Is it tommy's.
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 9: On, first well let's see you are currently looking south
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 9: from your current. VANTAGE point i, am right so it just.
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 9: Looks south Go. Down, alaskan okay hang, a left hang
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 9: a left when you get past the. Ferry dock gotcha
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 9: and you? See, me, hey buddy how are you ye
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 9: go to see you go to? See, It, yeah jimmies
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 9: you're in. The cage might just take a Ten The
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 9: world cup, right, Now, Dude honestly june nineteenth a, MONTH
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 9: maybe i mean my wife would.
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 2: LIKE that i.
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 9: Know, That well, june fifteenth we got we got like
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 9: seventeen days Until The.
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 2: World cups what's our first? Game?
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 1: Is here Is when, June nineteenth June And, juni tower
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 1: you Meet the Americans, in Seattle, In Belgium egypt.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 2: June fifteenth he was the first game? At noon did?
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 4: You So?
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 9: kJ roff WHO'S the gm At The Silver cloud hotel?
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 9: Over here he's actually gonna hop on the air with
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 9: us for. A second because there's all kinds of stuff
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 9: going ON that i was not, aware of.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 1: Really like good stuff for, bad stuff, bad stuff.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 9: Very bad like they're shutting the whole freaking Street, down
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 9: wait what you can't you can't park anywhere?
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 1: Down, here well how are you gonna Get to jimmy's?
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 1: ON first i, Don't KNOW like i don't. Like it
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have to walk wait wait, Wait whoa well
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 1: HERE'S what i want.
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 7: On this for.
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 9: A second think about think about all of the parking
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 9: lots South of edgar and North.
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 2: Of, yesler okay because that that's, the PERIMETER.
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 9: Right kJ so you can't park at the, valet here
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 9: you can't park a, hat back CAN'T park i think
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 9: At The lumen.
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 2: Stadium, lot right this is like four hours before.
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 4: The game, so yeah it's gonna be just kind of one, giant,
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 4: hub right it's.
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 2: Gonna be it's gonna be a big. Fan zone, no cars.
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 9: No cars so all those lots just South Of, begar
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 9: martinez they're gonna.
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 2: Be killing it is the closest you.
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 7: Can.
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 2: Get wow so we'd be like the last. Of us so.
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 2: Something up but, you know one big house up against.
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 2: The perimeter so let me.
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 1: Go back because as we're talking, About this i'm thinking
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 1: they'd be fun to do shows Down at Jimmy's. On
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 1: first but if we can't even Get to jimmy's, on, First.
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 9: Well di's got a little scooter that he wears with
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 9: his geeky bike hat that he. Puts on so we
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 9: might just all jump on the Back of. Dick's scooter
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 9: you're gonna take back, Your price Mother. And luisa then
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 9: if he doesn't take me, Far enough i'm gonna throw.
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 1: A fit or maybe you can Check with megan and
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 1: get a. Line, bike yeah we could couldn't do that
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 1: and walk potentially so.
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 9: MANY references, I mean I think i think the way
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 9: to do it for most people would be just to
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 9: uber in to the zone and then just walk to wherever.
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 2: You're going that's the way to our.
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 4: Public, Transportation oh i'll. Stop.
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 1: That stop we're not. Doing, that no This Isn't. New,
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 1: york okay we're not On The. East coast we're not.
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 4: Doing. That, nonsense well.
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 9: They're also setting up a shuttle by the way they
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 9: can take tourists around to Go.
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 2: See chinatown if you're, into THAT.
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 1: Well i just go To the tight tong got myself
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: some spicy neons man To Tight. Tongue, anders nope you
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 1: can't listen if.
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 2: You go let me just tell you.
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 1: Right now if, you go make sure the first time
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 1: you go is the only time, to go and that
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 1: would be like two thirty in.
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 2: The, morning well that's what we used.
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 9: To do back in the day when we used to work,
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 9: In restaurants we'll get off work at eleven o'clock and
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 9: Go to. Ty tong it was either that or. Thirteen
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 9: coins everything else. Was, closed, yeah, Yeah well, Ti Tongue,
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 9: Man andrews i'll take it a. Tight tongue you'll love, tight,
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 9: talk right phenomenal.
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 4: FIELD trip i.
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 2: LIKE it i feel.
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 9: Your dudes the servers that were THERE when i was
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 9: like nine are. Still, there yeah and back in the
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 9: day they look like they're about one hundred. Years old
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 9: they still look like they are hundred, years old which.
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 4: Is amazing they Have A.
• 2:13:05
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• 2:13:07
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• 2:13:12
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• 2:13:14
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• 2:13:15
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• 2:13:17
  Speaker 2: TIME ever.
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 9: Thank you have You Seen big Trouble In? Little, china,
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 9: yes no it's not a. Great, movie yeah. Great Movie,
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 9: Kim Katrell kim Katrell Before She got Big, is big
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 9: very very good in.
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 4: That, movie yeah.
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 2: Phenomenal, movie yeah.
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 1: Awesome, movie yeah Ty TONG we i just go there
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 1: with My buddy doobie when he got off WORK at. Fx,
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 1: movie yeah late. At night that was our late. Night haunt.
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 1: You could that was Back. In seattle when you get
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 1: two in, the morning. You can you could walk FROM
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 1: F x mcrory's up to the tigh tongue and not, be,
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 1: worried like not be worried for.
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 4: Your life.
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 1: It was it was a glorious time, back then all
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 1: those days.
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 9: AT all i just love the fact That the chinese
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 9: are smart enough to just stay open until two o'clock in,
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 9: the morning shutting out.
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 2: Of town let's, stay open make, some, MONEY yeah i.
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: WILL say i, will say now this part might have
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 1: been because WE'RE At Fx marc correy's for a good
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 1: Session with micking the company back in. The day BUT
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 1: if i remember CORRECTLY when i was going in there
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 1: at two third in, THE morning i don't think the
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 1: menus even Were, In english like there's maybe a couple.
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 1: OF pictures i would just we'd just say the, same thing, spicy,
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 1: noodles right and that. Was IT and i do also
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 1: remember you could get yourself a nice cold beard late.
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 4: At. Night yeah they have a different set of rules
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 4: there SO which i.
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 9: Just point to three or four things on, the menu
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 9: as long as it wasn't like live squid and say
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 9: bring it.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 2: Over, here man they had all the fish. There was
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 2: that was.
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 9: A concern, so anyway, so yeah we're gonna TALK to
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 9: kJ in, a minute because there's a lot of stuff
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 9: going on here outside of, the Stadium and i'm not
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 9: sure people are. AWARE of, I Mean june, june nineteenth
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 9: which Is, a FRIDAY the Usa plays australia at twelve
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 9: o'clock And the mariners Play The red sox. That, night
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 9: wow that is going to be an. Absolute zoo and
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 9: one THING that kJ said that we'll talk about when
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 9: he comes on the. Air today so apparently the geniuses
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 9: that are running this are expecting on game day seven
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 9: hundred and fifty thousand people to be down Here. Around
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 9: lumenfield so explain that. To me so seventy thousand people have,
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 9: tickets right yeah for, The, game yeah give or take
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 9: a couple, Grand whatever they're expecting an extra six hundred
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 9: and eighty thousand people to just show up and.
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 1: Hang, AROUND well i mean that's that's that's what they're, looking,
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 1: AT right, i mean that's.
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 2: You think that's.
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 1: GONNA happen i don't know if that's. GONNA happen, i,
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 1: think well how many?
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 2: People?
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 4: People nothing what do we have at the parade? THIS year? A,
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 4: million yeah but.
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 9: They came for the parade because everybody can see, the
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 9: parade not everybody can see.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 1: The.
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 9: Game, Yeah yeah so you're telling me that six hundred
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 9: and eighty thousand people are going to show up either
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 9: that live here or flew in from out of town
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 9: just to be a part of the atmosphere down Here, Outside,
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 9: Lumenfield Sorry. Seattle, stadium maybe well give me The, Under
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 9: bob i'll Take the how many people can you fit on?
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 1: The barge.
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 2: It's not really a? Barge though what?
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 9: Is it because it's it's it's attached to the oh
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 9: you Mean The world cup viewing barge you're.
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 2: Talking, about yeah that's not really.
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 1: A barge fifty two bucks just to stay on the
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 1: barge and then order drinks and it has to leave
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 1: the dock to be. A, Bar well i'm just telling,
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 1: you whatever whatever, it is it's it's still fifty two
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 1: bucks to.
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 2: Stand there why would you? DO that i.
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 1: Don't know i'd go you KNOW what i, WOULD do
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 1: i would, CALL juice i go down to the occidental
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 1: beer hall and hang out there and hang out and.
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 2: HAVE fun i Know what. I'M doing i just made.
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 1: A decision or if you can get us a situation
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 1: when we Get, inside jimmy's, you, know yeah.
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 9: We can define The k jimmy park her though as
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 9: kJ just i have just made a decision here on.
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 2: The fly what. Is it i'm. Not going i'm gonna
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 2: send up.
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 4: My couch don't change once it all, comes gosh That's what.
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 4: I'm doing i'll change.
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 2: On that couch.
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 9: Going, suckers, yeah okay nine hundred bucks for an uber
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 9: to go five?
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 4: Feet well oh id, even god what are?
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 2: Your? Kids?
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 1: So like say if you park down, by, say, hey
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 1: listen say if you parked down by Like ghost fish
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 1: or A Right sean kemp's placed, down, there right what
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 1: do you think the uber would be from there to
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 1: go like a mile and a half down to the
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 1: south end.
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 2: Weed shop it's in the.
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 4: Drop zone it could be a mile and a half
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 4: mile and.
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 2: A half one hundred bucks.
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 4: By, The way softy two h, Six says i'm on.
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 4: The planning it's seven hundred and fifty thousand for the. Whole, Tournament,
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 4: okay well so, it's cumulative, it's formula it's.
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 1: Not singular so.
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 2: Then why are we shutting down all the? First avenue
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 2: we'll TALK to kJ does not does he not?
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 9: Have juice the guys? Silver clad do we need to
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 9: shut Down? First avenue what's the point? To, THAT honestly
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 9: i could see shutting. DOWN occidental i could see Shutting down.
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 9: ROYAL brom i can. See that but why are we
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 9: shut down? First avenue there's gonna be just A normal
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 9: seahawks style.
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 4: Craft, BASICALLY anyway I think I, think softy it's.
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 2: Your buddy who's on. The committee by, The way i'm a.
• 2:17:46
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• 2:17:48
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• 2:17:53
  Speaker 2: And regress andrews when we say big, ugly house do
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 2: you know what we're? Talking To metal clue really gets
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 2: you don't know the. There a we're. Getting older these
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 2: guys are just getting younger by.
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 1: The, SECOND man i think it's probably all of the
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 1: above is thirty.
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 2: Years old he should know what we're. Talking about we got.
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 4: A final we got a final Form, yet softy, all,
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 4: right hey we got a Final.
• 2:18:15
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• 2:18:18
  Speaker 1: oregon state two cooks move on IN The ncaa.
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 4: Baseball tournament.
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 2: Guess what. Nobody, cares yes we do some. Of it,
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 2: Nobody cares yes.
• 2:18:26
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• 2:18:27
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• 2:18:29
  Speaker 4: care tomorrow when we beat the you know what Out?
• 2:18:31
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• 2:18:34
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• 2:18:35
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• 2:18:37
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• 2:18:38
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• 2:18:40
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• 2:18:45
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• 2:18:47
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• 2:18:50
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• 2:18:50
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• 2:18:53
  Speaker 4: All right what are you?
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 2: Doing anyway what? It's just what are you doing to
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 2: if you?
• 2:19:01
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• 2:19:09
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• 2:19:09
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• 2:19:11
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• 2:19:12
  Speaker 9: Two wins if You, beat oregon will put them on
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 9: how's that who on? Your show if We take, oregon
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 9: now the game would be. This, weekend well if They, beat,
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 9: yale yeah it'll. Be, tomorrow okay if you if You,
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 9: beat oregon if you knock the, ducks out we'll put them.
• 2:19:25
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• 2:19:26
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• 2:19:34
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• 2:19:39
  Speaker 1: this is, paddle day saying so, long everyone