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Chuck & Buck 3-4 Hour 3: Check yes or No, M's infield coach Perry Hill and will Walker be back? · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Very simple.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if cold with your stupid agent.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if they'd do it the way I did,
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  Speaker 3: Like in junior high when I was asking a girl out,
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  Speaker 3: like with a note right and passed it to her
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  Speaker 3: in the hallway, folded up really cool, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: and then will you be my girlfriend? Or will you
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  Speaker 3: go with me? And then check yes or no? And
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  Speaker 3: the yes box was significantly bigger than the no box.
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  Speaker 3: The no box was just tiny. You couldn't even really
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  Speaker 3: fit a pin. Yeah, so you just I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's the way to go if
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  Speaker 3: you're trying to get somebody to sign, make the yes
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  Speaker 3: box much bigger.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had a few years of dating experience. I'd
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  Speaker 2: be a lot slicker as a third grader now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: If if I had.
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  Speaker 4: To do it all over again, then what you know?
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  Speaker 2: Now, I'd be like check yes or yes, check yes
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  Speaker 2: or yes, yeah, of course.
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  Speaker 4: Yes or yes.
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  Speaker 3: I would like to hope that my game would be
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  Speaker 3: better now than it was back then. Yeah, I would
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  Speaker 3: hope Because the first time I asked a girl out,
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  Speaker 3: I said, hey, will you go with me? And she
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  Speaker 3: went where?
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  Speaker 5: Uh?
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  Speaker 3: Never mind? I just turned and walked away.
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  Speaker 5: I asked my parents if I could go with someone,
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  Speaker 5: and they're like, where to I was like, I don't
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  Speaker 5: like McDonald's.
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  Speaker 2: Well you might have had a you know, communication, like
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  Speaker 2: a cultural.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a lot that they didn't understand. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: and they told me I could go with someone. But
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  Speaker 5: then there wasn't anyone that wanted to go with me.
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  Speaker 3: That problem.
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  Speaker 1: Oh geez, I don't believe.
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  Speaker 4: It didn't help that the kid I had a crush
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  Speaker 4: on liked boys.
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I was.
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  Speaker 4: I'm so close, we're such good friends. And he was like, correct,
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  Speaker 4: So I guess that was a check.
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  Speaker 3: No, that was a check.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well at least there are reasons.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a good reason.
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  Speaker 1: What about you? Not you with him?
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  Speaker 4: That's true, That's true. I did have that going for me.
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  Speaker 1: Well anyway, yeah, I would.
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  Speaker 2: I think I would have been a lot more confident
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  Speaker 2: a third grader, because you were just terrified. You're just
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  Speaker 2: terrified of rejection. That in the third grade, for goodness sake,
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  Speaker 2: fifth grade.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know if it was all that terrified.
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  Speaker 3: I was really used to it, so, I mean I
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  Speaker 3: was comfortable in my rejected skin. Yeah, but I just
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  Speaker 3: kept shooting my shot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, good, good for you.
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  Speaker 3: It worked out eventually.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, well we're going to play check yes or no
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  Speaker 2: with a free agency right now. We did this yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: I enjoyed it, so it's back again today. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to go to any position group here. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we could go to a cornerback preview, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I think that gets bogged down a little bit trying
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  Speaker 2: to explain to you some of these free agents that
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  Speaker 2: are out there. So this is an exercise of if
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  Speaker 2: John gets to step outside of the community of Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: players and he's got the money to sign one big
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  Speaker 2: free agent on the market, you know, marrying player quality
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  Speaker 2: with whole that you might address on your roster, do
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  Speaker 2: you check yes or no on this given player?
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  Speaker 3: All right, so.
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  Speaker 2: Well we'll do a variety of positions, but really the
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  Speaker 2: top guy arguably at each.
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  Speaker 1: Of those positions.
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  Speaker 2: So let's start with Trey Hendrickson. Ken Walker made news
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  Speaker 2: yesterday by not getting tagged, even though we knew it.
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  Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson made news yesterday by not getting tagged by
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  Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals. Thank goodness, I could not deal with
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  Speaker 2: another year of Trey Hendrickson Drama in My Life. And
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  Speaker 2: so he is now a free agent, a thirty one
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  Speaker 2: year old free agent who according to spotrack, and again
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how accurate they are, but I got
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  Speaker 2: to use something as a point of reference here for
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  Speaker 2: our conversations. They're putting his market value at twenty five
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  Speaker 2: million dollars per year. He is coming off an injury
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  Speaker 2: riddled season in which he was angry all season long.
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  Speaker 2: So how much that contributed to his seven game, four
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  Speaker 2: sack performance, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But the previous two years, we're talking.
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  Speaker 2: About back to back seventeen and a half sacked season.
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  Speaker 2: So that's twenty three and twenty four. It's not that
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  Speaker 2: long ago. That's not ancient history. One that long ago.
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  Speaker 2: He was in the conversation for best pass rusher in
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  Speaker 2: the league not named Miles Garrett. So we are talking
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  Speaker 2: about somebody that's had one heck of a career. He's
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  Speaker 2: going to ask for one heck of an annual per
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  Speaker 2: year salary. But he plays that coveted edge position. And
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  Speaker 2: if you're the super Bowl champs and you got some
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  Speaker 2: money to spend, and you get to spend it on
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  Speaker 2: something that you know fun.
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  Speaker 3: Do you check yes or no on Trey Hendrickson, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: all things considered, yeah, I mean this basically goes towards
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  Speaker 3: yesterday when we were talking about like if you can
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  Speaker 3: add to what is already a devastating defense and add
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  Speaker 3: somebody that can kind of is just really really good
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  Speaker 3: at getting after the pass. I mean to throw last
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  Speaker 3: year out, he was angry, he was hurt, his numbers
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  Speaker 3: weren't there, But the previous five years he was averaging
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  Speaker 3: like a sack a game. I mean, that's that's game
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  Speaker 3: changing production, right, because for every sack, you got to
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  Speaker 3: figure there's a couple other times that he's making a
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  Speaker 3: quarterback rush into a decision, whether it's throwing an interception
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  Speaker 3: or throwing it away and punting the ball. So I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that's a guy that if I'm sitting there thinking, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: if I just had a giant chunk of change, a
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  Speaker 3: bag of money that I get to give to somebody,
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  Speaker 3: twenty five million bucks is a lot for a guy
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  Speaker 3: that's over thirty. But at the same time, I do
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  Speaker 3: think that this guy's a somebody could come in and
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  Speaker 3: be a difference maker and make something already a strength.
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  Speaker 3: You just make it absolutely terrifying.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say check yes, yes or checking yes yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I just think any opportunity you have to make this
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  Speaker 5: very excellent defense excellenter.
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  Speaker 1: Now excellenter today? Yep, yesterday was awesomer, Yes, excellenter.
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  Speaker 4: You go, you do it.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that somebody like Trey Hendrickson could absolutely
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  Speaker 5: make us the excellentist.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, very well could. I mean, I want to be fantasticer.
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  Speaker 1: This year's.
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  Speaker 5: We talk about how hard it is to repeat a
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  Speaker 5: Super Bowl champion, So here you go.
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  Speaker 4: You got to make some big moves to try to
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  Speaker 4: make that happen.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you do have the cap space. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this is this is where you know, life's pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: I get to go shopping and I don't have to
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  Speaker 2: shop for what I need. I get to shop for
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  Speaker 2: what I want and I got money to spend. That's
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  Speaker 2: a great position to be in. And if they're really
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  Speaker 2: kicking the tires on a Max Crosby trade, I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's a year and a half difference there. But Hendrickson's
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  Speaker 2: coming off a year where he mostly rested versus Max
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  Speaker 2: Crosby coming off a year where he got really banged up.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, if from a mileage standpoint, there's much
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  Speaker 2: of a difference there. I do believe Crosby's the better player,
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  Speaker 2: But is he so much better that you would pay
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  Speaker 2: five million dollars more for him annually and give up
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  Speaker 2: two future first round picks theoretically for him?
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  Speaker 1: Why go through all of that?
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  Speaker 2: Why not get these slight less ed, proven edge rusher,
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  Speaker 2: pro bowler and not have to give up any trade
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  Speaker 2: compensation for him? Just money at twenty five million, I'm
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  Speaker 2: checking yes on Trey Hendrickson as well well.
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  Speaker 5: And you think about this, If you have the most
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  Speaker 5: excellentist defense in the entire galaxy, you don't even need
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  Speaker 5: to worry about who's at running back because your defense
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  Speaker 5: will just take care of everything. So you could play
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  Speaker 5: negative points, Yeah, exactly, with.
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  Speaker 4: Negative points, you could play offense with ten guys.
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  Speaker 1: You're okay, Yeah, Yeah, it's true.
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  Speaker 3: I mean Michael Dixon punts down inside the five, Trey
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  Speaker 3: Anderson sacks for two points. Offense doesn't even have to
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  Speaker 3: do it. I don't have to have a running back,
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  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean you have potential.
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  Speaker 5: To be galaxier, and that is the ultimate goal, all right,
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  Speaker 5: let's move on to the next one.
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  Speaker 2: We all, we all liked the idea in theory of
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  Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson. Nashan Wright was a cornerback out of Chicago.
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  Speaker 2: Spow Track again has him ranked as the number one
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  Speaker 2: cornerback prospect that's getting ready to hit the free agent market.
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  Speaker 2: He was one of many Bears and their breakthrough season
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  Speaker 2: who had a breakthrough individual season at age twenty seven.
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  Speaker 2: This is somebody that they're projecting might make sixteen and
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  Speaker 2: a half million.
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  Speaker 1: Dollars per year on the free agent market.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the Seahawks currently have two cornerbacks hitting the free
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  Speaker 2: agent market, Josh Job at nine and a half Greek
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  Speaker 2: Woolan at eight.
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  Speaker 1: So this is where you.
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  Speaker 2: Could play the game of trying to get one or
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  Speaker 2: both of those guys back, or you just cut out
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  Speaker 2: the middleman. We're not going to end up getting in
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  Speaker 2: bidding wars. We've got the money to spend. Let's just
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  Speaker 2: get the top guy on the market at cornerback. Lock
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  Speaker 2: him up, and now we don't sweat whether or not
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  Speaker 2: we can have to bring back job and or Woolen
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  Speaker 2: Jack yes or no.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean he definitely showed out last year and
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  Speaker 3: he's going to get paid because of it. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we talk about how important we think clubhouses.
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  Speaker 3: Do you really want to bring a rodent into it?
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? You let an Oregon State
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  Speaker 3: Beaver infiltrate your locker room. You know they could bring
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  Speaker 3: losing could be a losing mentality you're bringing in there.
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  Speaker 3: So no, I mean all seriousness, I think that the
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  Speaker 3: idea of securing your secondary, I mean the secondary is
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  Speaker 3: kind of feels like it's maybe not lee in a boom.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think we have to compare that. It's its
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  Speaker 3: own thing, whatever they want to call it, the dark side,
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  Speaker 3: the entire defense, and there was at times where you
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  Speaker 3: had a little bit of a weakness on the outside.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised one bit if they went out
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  Speaker 3: there and tried to lock up a guy like that.
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  Speaker 3: On the free agent market, they don't typically go after
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  Speaker 3: the biggest dudes. They don't want to get into bidding wars.
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  Speaker 3: True in free agency, this is a guy that you know,
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  Speaker 3: really hasn't done a ton except for last year, and
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  Speaker 3: so do you really want to get into a bidding
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  Speaker 3: war with a guy that won an Oregon State Beaver
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  Speaker 3: that has one year, one good year under his belt.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to go ahead and check no on that one.
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  Speaker 5: Dog well, and I actually am also going to check no,
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  Speaker 5: because you know, Mike McDonald knows what he wants and
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  Speaker 5: knows what he needs on his defense, and this guy
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  Speaker 5: could fit. But we also know that Josh Job fit
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  Speaker 5: and he's a lot, a lot less expensive. So I
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  Speaker 5: think that they go try to re sign Josh Job
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  Speaker 5: and you're good.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you. I checked no on this as well.
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  Speaker 2: For points to both of you made. Yeah, they're not
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  Speaker 2: an early and free agency type of franchise. And the
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  Speaker 2: only reason I'm checking yes on Trey Hendrickson is because
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  Speaker 2: they're kicking the tires. Rumor has it on Max Crosby. Well,
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  Speaker 2: maybe there's a better alternative there to get nearly as
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  Speaker 2: good a player without giving up the draft picks and
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  Speaker 2: as high a salary. So that's why I check yes
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  Speaker 2: on Trey Hendrickson, because it sounds like they're already thinking
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  Speaker 2: about adding a twenty five million dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Per year pass rusher.
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  Speaker 2: But I just I just think maybe you're too good
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  Speaker 2: at identifying corners defensive backs coaching them up first. Pete now,
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  Speaker 2: coach McDonald, I think you're too good at it, and
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  Speaker 2: I think you do. Just bring back Josh Job for
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  Speaker 2: nearly half the price.
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  Speaker 1: Rieke Woolan.
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  Speaker 2: I do believe some out there is going to value
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  Speaker 2: him more than the Seahawks. They think they'll be able
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  Speaker 2: to unlock that athletic ability. So I let him walk.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that Josh Job will be more valuable
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  Speaker 2: to the Seahawks than he is to anybody else. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I think they're going to say to themselves, we know
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  Speaker 2: he's a good player, and we're gonna bring him back
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  Speaker 2: at half the rate it would take to get the
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  Speaker 2: top cornerback on the market. All right, let's go to
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  Speaker 2: the next one, right guard, right. I mean, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of improvement on the offensive line, and yet everybody still
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  Speaker 2: had a problem all year long with Anthony Bradford. He
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: did seem to get better at year's end. We weren't
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: hearing as much squawking about Anthony Bradford by the time
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  Speaker 2: playoffs ran around as run around as we did at
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  Speaker 2: the beginning of the year. But if you've got a
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  Speaker 2: little extra money to spend again, you're drafting what you
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  Speaker 2: want here, not what you need. You know, why not
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  Speaker 2: spend thirteen million dollars on Elijah Vera Tucker, the guard
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  Speaker 2: from the New York Jets, who was a former first
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  Speaker 2: round pick that I'm sure John Schneider liked and didn't
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  Speaker 2: have an opportunity to draft once upon a time. He's
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  Speaker 2: still just twenty six years old. He's been one of
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  Speaker 2: the better Jets the last five years. He's going to
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  Speaker 2: cost you about thirteen million dollars. But now you've really
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  Speaker 2: completed your offensive line. Where's the hole in the offensive line?
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  Speaker 2: If you had Elijah Vera Tucker at thirteen million dollars
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  Speaker 2: per year, Bucky you checking yes or no?
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  Speaker 3: This is probably the place This team, you know, winning
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl doesn't have a ton of holes. If
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  Speaker 3: you have some guys leave ken Walker and other things,
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  Speaker 3: you're obviously going to have to fill some holes. There's
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: going to be some openings that come up there. But
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  Speaker 3: this is the one that at the end of the season,
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  Speaker 3: even though Bradford was better, it's still I don't know
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: who's it was on Twitter that I was watching, but
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: basically every week he would break down film of Bradshaw
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  Speaker 3: and there would be a play where he would end
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  Speaker 3: up he would end up, you know, pancaking a guy,
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: or you know, getting in on a double team and
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  Speaker 3: just pushing somebody six yards downfield. And then the next
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  Speaker 3: one he would just be like turning in a circle
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  Speaker 3: like no one is like touching him, He's not blocking anyone.
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  Speaker 3: He just tipped over one time, just fell over. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I get it. I'm fifty, that'll happen to me. But
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  Speaker 3: I would think that if I was in my prime
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  Speaker 3: as an NFL player, I wouldn't just tip over when
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  Speaker 3: no one touches me. So this is the position that
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  Speaker 3: I would probably upgrade more. And so, yeah, I'm all
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  Speaker 3: for going out there, and if you got money to spend,
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  Speaker 3: done what you want, this is the place I think
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  Speaker 3: you would want to upgrade more than just about anything.
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  Speaker 5: I would say yes, because you know, former USC Trojans
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  Speaker 5: do pretty well on the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 3: Team, better than Rodents.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good point, yep, And you're not having a
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  Speaker 2: real good news cycle right now.
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  Speaker 5: No, But it's the no the ones that went to
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  Speaker 5: school when I was still proud of my school.
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay, those ones.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and so and then also I watched him on
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  Speaker 5: that home team New York Jets on Amazon Prime really
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  Speaker 5: like him. It seems like a good guy, seems like
• 13:51
  Speaker 5: an easy guy to get along with. And again we
• 13:54
  Speaker 5: are we can't mess with this locker room kind of
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  Speaker 5: zend thing got going on. So you need to bring
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  Speaker 5: in people that are gonna just slide on him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's a good player. Yes, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think there's any way that John would do this one.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I just don't know if a Tiger changes
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  Speaker 2: the stripes that much. He invested the first round pick,
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  Speaker 2: He's got money invested in both his tackles right now,
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: and I think that they do like Whether or not
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: people out there do like him, I think they do
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  Speaker 2: like Anthony brad at right guards. So I'm gonna check no,
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  Speaker 2: not because I don't see the hear the merits to
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  Speaker 2: what you're saying, or don't understand the merits to what
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  Speaker 2: you're saying. And I do think he's a good player
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  Speaker 2: that would fit well on this team. I just I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to add a thirteen million dollar player to
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  Speaker 2: my interior offensive line. That not when it's not a
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  Speaker 2: major weakness like it was a year ago at this time.
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  Speaker 2: All right, final one, check yes or no on this one.
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  Speaker 2: Just do nothing big, nothing outside the community. Use your
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: cap space that you have this year to bring back
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: as many of your own as you can, and use
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: this offseason while you've got the space to extend your
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: own and make JSN and spoon happy right now, so
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  Speaker 2: you don't have to worry about this a year from
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  Speaker 2: now and then nickel and dime your way through free
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  Speaker 2: agency to fill in the cracks because you'll still have
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  Speaker 2: some money left over and you can manipulate.
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  Speaker 1: Your cap space.
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  Speaker 2: So don't do anything of significance, be John, and just
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: ride the second, maybe even third wave of free agency
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: and just do your due diligence to bring in as
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: many of your free agents back into the fold as
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: you possibly can.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: Well, I think this is probably the box that's going
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: to get checked, really, to be honest, and who am
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: I to doubt John Schneider. I mean, you know, Greg
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Bell was talking earlier today and it's been mentioned multiple
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: times that he's the only person to ever win two
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Super Bowls with an entirely different team and regime and
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: the entire everything from top to bottom. So to me,
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: it's he's probably leaning more in that into this category
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: of like I'm not gonna make any of the splashy.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: I'll let other people go spend big money on one
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: person that could get hurt during training camp or you know,
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it goes by the wayside. Whereas
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: if you disperse that across a bunch of people, especially
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: when you start talking about like a job for example,
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: beyond the the for sures of the JSA and and
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: the Witherspoon the Superstars, but you start spreading it across
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: other people that already understand what it is to be
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: a Mike McDonald seahawk that you know, we heard it
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: himself and Hughes explained many times how his second year
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: is when all of a sudden the defense starts taking off. Well,
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: that's because of the complexity in which he runs the system.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: If you can get an or an experienced Josh Job
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: that maybe is less than athletically or gifted wise than
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: some of these high priced cornerbacks, but he already knows
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: the system that's worth that's worth its weight in something,
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: maybe not gold, but it's worth its weight in some
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: sort of precious metal. So to me, I'm with you this.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: I think this is one that I would check and
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: I think it's the box that John's going to check.
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: Ashley, I would check no, oh, because you know, as
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: money as nice as the idea is that like, let's
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: get the whole team together, we're going to run it back.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, we talk over and over about how hard
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: it is to repeat as a Super Bowl champion. You
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: can't just expect that you can do the exact same thing,
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: and teams aren't going to be more prepared for you.
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: And so I think you have to at least make
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: one move to to say, yeah, we we recognize how
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: hard it is that to try to do what we
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: did or to try to do what we want to do.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: So we're going to even add more.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: We're going to make ourselves scarier to you so that
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: it's harder for you to prepare for us and bring
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: on that second Super Bowl. So yeah, you got to
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: make one move check.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: No, all right? All right?
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean yeah, and even if you do try
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: to bring all the guys back, you're not going to
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: bring them all back, So that's going to create some
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: sort of hole out there.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I'm a check yes.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Though on this, I think that they're in really good position.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I don't think they need to overextend themselves. I would
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: like to spend this offseason and making sure that JSN
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: and Weatherspoon are happy extended. And again, you can manipulate
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: the numbers so that doesn't impact you greatly for this
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: upcoming year. And I could still leave you the space
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: for Ashley to spend you know, Jody Allen's money this offseason.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: That's fine. You still have the space, you might as
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: well spend it. But I'd be okay with this. I'd
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: be okay if they just do typical John Schneider.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Stuff this offseason and don't.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Really extend themselves on a big free agent edition this year.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Coming up next on the program, we're going to be
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: joined by who is considered to be the greatest infield
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: coach in the history of baseball.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Stop it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Perry Hill is next on kJ R.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: My good morning, It is chucking back here on our
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: spring training.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Coverage was a couple of weeks ago.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Award winning, some people say, and yet we didn't get
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: to chat with everybody we wanted to talk to while
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: we were down in Peoria, including our next guest. It's
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: great to catch up with him now, of course. On
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: the coaching staff, the infield coach of our dreams. He
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: is considered widely the best to do it in the business.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: The bone himself, Perry Hill, is with us here on
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Chuck and Buck. Good morning, sir.
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: Laurn Chucking Buck. How are you?
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: We're doing all right?
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: How are I don't mean to embarrass you that way,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: but every player that we have on comes on and
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: says the exact same thing. Even newcomers like Brendan Donovan
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: told us this year the opportunity to be coached by
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: the best infield coach in the world, I couldn't pass
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: up on that. So your reputation precedes you. I'm sorry
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: if that embarrasses you, Perry Well.
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: I'll say this. Big players make coaches look good. How's that?
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Well yeah, but good, great coaches turn good players
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: into great ones. So if you had, if you had
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: to have a room, or if you if you got
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: a replica for every gold Glove you've helped someone get,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: you'd have to buy a bigger house.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: You're too kind.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: I actually, before we get into this, just one real
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: quick thing. Yesterday here I was two days ago had
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: my first eight to nine U baseball practice for the
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: little kids. So first thing, first, thing that I need
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: to be working with these kids on ground balls. What
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: is it, I.
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: Think, uh, getting getting them to spread their legs out wider.
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: A lot of kids have their feet so narrow that
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: they can't get their glove in front of their body,
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: and I think that's why a lot of them, you know,
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: get a little bitty hot at the end that it'll
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: hit them on the wrist or something. And so to
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: alleviate that, I think it just a little small adjust
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: meant of trying to get their feet wider than their
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: shoulders two three inches wider than their shoulders, and they
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: will give him a whole lot better vision, and in turn,
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: it'll take the fear away of the ball.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: All right, all right?
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Was Brendan Donovan afraid of the ball when he got
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: to you?
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: He's not afraid of anything.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think he is either. What's it been like
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: working with him?
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I mean he expressed us, Now granted this was before
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: camp officially began, but he expressed us like, yeah, you know,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: never really played third base on an everyday basis, and
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: so you know, I got some things to polish up.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: So how is he doing in his progress working with you?
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: He's done great he's got tremendous work ethic. He's a sponge.
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: He wants to know everything. Even when we're done with
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: our ground ball routine that we do every day, he
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: wants to go to a side field by himself and
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: get more work. So he's really applied himself to the instruction,
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: to suggestions, and his work ethic combined with that just
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: made him a pleasure to work with, and he's starting
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: to get very comfortable at third base.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Perry when we talked to him early right we were
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: there right when basically all the position players were showing up,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: and when we had him on, he was very happy
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: about the fact that when he was excited about meeting
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: you and working with you and learning from you, but
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: he was happy that it wasn't some drastic overall. The
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: first thing you said to him wasn't well, that's crappy,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: We're going to have to scrap everything you know and
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: start all the way over. He was saying. It sounded
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: more like what you guys be working with was, you know,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: tinkering a couple of little things here and there. What
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: in particular, was there one thing that you just noticed
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: that like, okay, that's a habit that you might have
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: gotten from playing more second base at third base, We're
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: going to have to make sure we do this. There
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: was there anything in particular that you were going to
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: make sure that he was figuring out before spring's over.
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: Well, but the first thing I do is I just
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: watched the player for a couple of days. It's really
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: not fair to meet somebody the first day after you
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: trade for him and try to overhaul them. Then the
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: players thinking, well would you trade for me for if
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: I couldn't do anything right? So I so I watched
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: a couple of a couple of days, and then there's
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: just a few suggestions about maybe footwork, consistent footwork. It's
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: going to be a longer throw for him than it
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: was at second base, obviously, and the key to that
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: is good consistent footwork because you throw with your legs.
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: If you use your legs, your arm's gonna be a
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: whole lot better. And so we just have been stressing
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: the footwork and making it consistent.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Perry Hill is with us infield coach for your Seattle
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Mariners JP Crawford. I mean, he's obviously been a fixture
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: at shop for this team, but all the analytics people,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: all the metric people, they question his range. What do
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: you say to those that question JP's defense and whether
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: or not it's on the decline.
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: Well, I don't know if you've ever heard me talk
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: about the box. I talk about the box a lot,
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: and that's that's uh. Many acted does a great job
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: of positioning the guys and so where Many puts them,
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: then we visually, I visually draw a box, you know,
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: like four steps to your left, five steps to your left,
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: four or five steps to your right, you know, six
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: or seven steps, and when I connect it make a box.
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: We think because where Manny is putting them that the
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: ball is going to be hit somewhere in that box.
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: If you make those plays in that box, the starting
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: pitcher will throw less pitches, he'll get to stay in
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: the game longer. You don't touch your bullpen, the game
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: flows a lot quicker, and you get to twenty seven
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: outs a lot quicker. So I know what the analytics say,
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: and analytics are important, but also is making the bald
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: that sit in that box, making it and out every
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: time is valuable in my opinion, and JP does that.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: I'm one hundred percent with you on that one. Perry
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: when it comes to his battery mate, if you will
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: up the middle, I mean Cole Young. We don't know
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: for sure that that's who's going to be playing second base,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: but I think probably has the pole position at this point.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Last year gets his first cup of coffee, his first
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: taste of the big leagues. What did you like about
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: him that he brings to the table defensively and what
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: are the things that a youngster like that you need
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: to work on.
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: He's very coachable, He listens, he applies things. I think
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: he got a little tired in the last year. I
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: didn't know what he knew what to expect. You know,
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: he's never played a one hundred and sixty two game
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: full schedule, and he came to spring training really prepared.
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: This year.
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: He's taking really good care of his body over the winner,
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: and he's coming to the camp a lot stronger, and
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: I think he's has done the things he needed to
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: do to do the group in one hundred and sixty
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: two game schedule. He's got tremendous talent. I mean, he
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: was a number one pick, so he's going to be fine.
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: I just think last year kind of surprised him in
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: some cases.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Perry Hill our guest here on Checking Buck in the Mornings.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I got to get your thoughts on Josh Naylor. What
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: surprised you more, How good he was defensively at first
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: base when he has he arrived, or how just impressive
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: his shoe and belt game is perry.
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: Well, if you've never seen my shoe game, that's not
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: a strong point. So he's he's quite a flashy dresser,
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: let's put it that way. But my relationship with Josh
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: is goes back a long way.
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: It was only for a day or two, but he
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: was the number one pick for the Marlins when I
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: was in Miami, and so you know, the number one
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: pick comes into town, and you know they take batting
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: practice and you know, fool around the ballpark.
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: And and so I met him way back when, and
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: so I knew he was just as intense then as
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: he is now. It's not more so. So I've known
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: Josh a long time, and I will say this, he
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: is actually a student of the game. He studies everything,
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: and he never get surprised. He might He's a very
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: prepared player. And his defense he's been fine. He's in
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: a stolen basers. I mean, so I think surprise is
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: everybody greeting myself. Yeah, you know, I figure, you know,
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: the guy like that will sneak in, you know, five
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: or six a year, but geez, he just kept running
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: and he was always.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Safe, always safe.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thirty bags, that'll do it. I mean for Perry,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: for a guy like you that's been around and seeing
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: so many ballplayers at the highest level. I mean, when
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: it comes to Nail, he's a guy that I was
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: wanting the Mariners to go out and get for a
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: couple of years, and he did not disappoint because of
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: the that kind of intensity that you're talking about, but
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: it's also an educated intensity. I mean, is he is
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: he abnormal from even all of the guys that you've
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: got to watch over the decades that you've been in
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: professional baseball when it comes to that, well, I've been.
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: Around a lot of really smart players who study the game.
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: But you know what I like about Josh is that
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: when the game is going on and he's a few
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: hitters away from going to the plate, you can see
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: him talking to the younger players and pointing out things
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: with the picture what he does or how he does it,
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: or you know, maybe he picked up something in their motion.
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: He's always looking and then always trying to help the
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: younger players. And you know, you don't get a lot
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: of players that him self with like he is. He's
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: a tremendous student.
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: Of the games.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Perry Hill as our guest before we let you go,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: which of the kids has caught your eye?
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Who can you give us?
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Give us a little snitch on some of these prospects
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: that are buzzing around camp. Who's somebody that you have
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: been really impressed with?
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: Well, I like all my guys, so it would be
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: a long list.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, I have to list them all. All right, Well
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: i'll cut you off. Then we might not have time
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: to list them all.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: But all right, are you Are you already missing cal
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: from camp? Are some of these guys that left for
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: the WBC?
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Do you miss them already?
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: Well? I think we had the most players represented it
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: in the WBC than any other team. I believe that
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: it is correct. Yeah, but yeah, it's I mean that
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: the ground bow routine is it goes by quicker because
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: we have less players. Buy in practice goes by quicker
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: because we have less players. So, yes, I missed them
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: because I like to be out on the field.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you get how long would you practice if you
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: were allowed, if Dan just let you run the practice,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: how long would you go?
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: Well, if the players wouldn't revolt, I'd be out there
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: five six hours. How's that?
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: Just long?
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Just ten more round? Boys stop?
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, they always get they always they always get
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: on me about one more, one more, one more? When
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: is one more in the.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: After one more?
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: More?
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Well, great to have you on, Thank you very much,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: have a great year, and we'll talk to you soon.
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: All right, thanks for having me on, fellas.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: All right, there he is Perry Hill and Field coach
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: to the stars, joining us here on Chuck and Bucket.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Dude knows the stuff, Yeah he does. I mean it's
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's something you typically are going to
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: have some egos, right, and guys that have already gotten
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: to the big leagues, they they're going to have one
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: they've got there, right. But if you have a guy
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: like Brennan Donovan, now I think he's cut from the
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: cloth of I always can be getting better. There's always
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: stuff to work on. But I mean, you know, JP Crawford,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: first round pick, and he came here and and got
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: turned into a gold glove guy. That is that's a
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: coach that understands how to talk to people and get
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: them to check their ego and understand we got things
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: to get better at. But if you listen to what
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about, you're going to get better and it's
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: going to show up. And so that's that's one of
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: the beliefs that I have when they have with the
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: turnover and some young guys, and maybe metrics say defensively,
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: you're not going to be all that good Perry Hill.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: If they can get if Manny puts him in the
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: bright position, Perryhill's going to get him to field the
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: balls that are in that box.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: It's an interesting comment about JP and the metrics on JP.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Just hearing the organization's perspective on that and Perry Hill's
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: perspective on that, something that maybe we'll toss up into
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: conversation tomorrow. Coming up next though. On the radio program
• 32:22
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• 32:25
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• 32:27
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• 32:30
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• 32:36
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• 32:40
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• 32:42
  Speaker 2: story here the last couple of weeks is trying to
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  Speaker 2: figure out whether or not ken Walker is going to
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  Speaker 2: remain a Seahawk. If he is indeed going to test
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  Speaker 2: on the free agent waters, then what chance do the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks have.
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  Speaker 1: Of getting him back.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, at this stage, is it a foregone conclusion
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  Speaker 2: that ken Walker is is leaving for a different roster.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't go that far, Bucky, but I'm not feeling
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  Speaker 2: good about it. I mean I was about seventy five
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  Speaker 2: percent at the beginning of the off season that he
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  Speaker 2: was gone.
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  Speaker 1: Then I got back around down to about.
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  Speaker 2: Like fifty five percent, barely thought he was going to
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  Speaker 2: be leaving, and now him back to like eighty five percent.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's gone.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm probably even stronger than that. Wow, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I just don't. I just think that they've had their
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  Speaker 3: opportunities to show him and tell him and you know,
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  Speaker 3: kind of put their money where their mouth is that
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  Speaker 3: that's who they want now. It doesn't mean that they
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  Speaker 3: don't want him or don't like him. It's just a business.
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  Speaker 3: This is this is one hundred percent. The business has
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  Speaker 3: nothing to do with what they feel about the person individually.
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  Speaker 1: Every villain in every movie says that, yeah, it was
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  Speaker 1: just business.
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  Speaker 3: It's just business. It's not you personally, it's me. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that's what John Schneider is saying to him. It's not you,
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  Speaker 3: it's me. You know, I don't want to break up,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm just not feeling the same. Or even if
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  Speaker 3: I am feeling the same, so and so is going
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  Speaker 3: to love you more. And I think that's basically what
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  Speaker 3: it boils down to. He's I would like to think
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  Speaker 3: that that athletes at times can step outside of the
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  Speaker 3: business of it and think about the long term effects
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  Speaker 3: of your decisions. You're gonna be a millionaire regardless you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna get paid, whether it's by the Seahawks. Let's just
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  Speaker 3: say it was twelve million bucks a year or something
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  Speaker 3: all around there, versus somebody else that says, I'll give
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  Speaker 3: you a fourteen or I'll give you fifteen, whatever it is,
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  Speaker 3: and that seems high to me.
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  Speaker 6: You.
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  Speaker 3: I just think there's just something about sticking with the
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  Speaker 3: team that drafted you that it'll pay off in the
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  Speaker 3: long run. You kind of know what the devil you're
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  Speaker 3: dancing with at this point in time. But I don't
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  Speaker 3: think that's the case, especially for running backs. You know,
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  Speaker 3: if if last year he was hoping that they would
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  Speaker 3: have re upped him and they basically said, nope, sorry,
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  Speaker 3: go play on a one year one year left on
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  Speaker 3: your contract. You go play for that two million bucks
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  Speaker 3: that we already allotted. We're not going to extend you,
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  Speaker 3: and we're gonna give you a time share. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think that there's any loyalty that he deserves or that
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  Speaker 3: the Seahawks. He owes the Seahawks, and so I think
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  Speaker 3: he's going to go out there and test the market,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that somebody's going to come up with
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  Speaker 3: a number much higher than what the Seahawks are willing
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  Speaker 3: to go to. So I mean, I'm more I'm probably
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  Speaker 3: ninety percent plus feeling like he's gone Wow.
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  Speaker 5: I will say the fact that they didn't franchise Tag
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  Speaker 5: him didn't change my thoughts on whether or not he
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: would come back at all, because I never thought they
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  Speaker 5: would franchise Tag him in the first place, and I
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: don't think any of us did. But I am going
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  Speaker 5: more towards them not coming back or not him not
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  Speaker 5: coming back, because we haven't heard any rumblings.
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  Speaker 4: Really, there hasn't been any You'd.
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  Speaker 5: Think if they're, you know, actually wanting to bring him back,
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  Speaker 5: we would have heard, hey, oh they've been talking to
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  Speaker 5: this or they've been doing this, And I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: The idea that it's been silent makes me think that
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  Speaker 5: there the conversations haven't been very promising.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's probably just the way that it should
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  Speaker 2: be going. I mean, usually these things, I mean, there's
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  Speaker 2: a reason why negotiations are always done in the eleven
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  Speaker 2: o'clock hour. They want the other person to walk. But
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: now both sides realize that, Yeah, well insides recognize that's
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  Speaker 2: what you're doing. And so I'm sure they've had conversations dating.
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  Speaker 1: Back to earlier last week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and and yet do we have your final offer yet? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's going to come before Monday.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And as Greg pointed out, he's being tampered with. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: even prior to there's a pre tamper going on right now.
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  Speaker 4: Oh that's not you don't ever really want that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm supposed to do that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm supposed to do it. I don't know if we
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  Speaker 2: have to have a pre tamper period. We got to
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: get our pre tamp on. Oh, it's just going to
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: get expensive, safer and confusing. Yeah, but but yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: think that you do hold out hope that Look, you
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  Speaker 2: haven't gotten our best offer yet to remain a Seahawk,
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  Speaker 2: and that will come sometime Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I still I'm at forty five percent now that he
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  Speaker 5: will be coming back. So I was around I was
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  Speaker 5: about fifty five percent that he'd be coming back. I'm
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: going just because we are getting closer, but I still
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  Speaker 5: have pretty.
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  Speaker 4: High hopes that they're bringing him back.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, We've got a trade, by the way, in the
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: National Football League, Adam Schefter is reporting that the Chiefs
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: have traded former excuse me, have traded their star cornerback
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Trent McDuffie away to the Kansas City Chiefs in exchange
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  Speaker 2: for a first round pick, a fifth round pick, a
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  Speaker 2: sixth round pick, and a third rounder in twenty twenty seven.
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  Speaker 2: So pretty significant trade right there. The Los Angeles Rams
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  Speaker 2: getting the Chief's best defensive back he has been for
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  Speaker 2: years now from the Kansas City Chiefs for a first rounder,
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  Speaker 2: twenty ninth overall, a fifth, sixth, and the third rounder
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  Speaker 2: of the Chiefs. Excuse me, Yeah, third rounder from the
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  Speaker 2: Rams in twenty twenty seven. So yeah, we've got some
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  Speaker 2: activity going on. So just when you just when you
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: get Kyler Murray out of the division, here comes Trent
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  Speaker 2: McDuffie into the division. All right, coming up next, it
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  Speaker 2: is time for a Green Jacket Draft. We're going to
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