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  Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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  Speaker 2: Cowboys.
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  Speaker 1: This is Cowboys Storyline presented by Gillette, the official shave
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  Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys.
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  Speaker 3: Here's Nick Eatman.
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  Speaker 4: What's up? Welcome to Cowboys storyline presented by Gillette, Wednesday,
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  Speaker 4: May the sixth, and it's time to talk some Cowboys
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  Speaker 4: offseason football. This month is going to be rather slow
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  Speaker 4: for the Cowboys. All NFL teams, I would imagine, but
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  Speaker 4: I know the Cowboys don't have another practice on the
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  Speaker 4: field until June, so that's when they start the OTAs,
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  Speaker 4: have a couple of weeks of that and then a
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  Speaker 4: mini camp and then it'll be kind of shut down
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  Speaker 4: for about a month until training camp in late July.
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  Speaker 4: So we did have a Rooky mini camp. It won't
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  Speaker 4: take long to discuss how those players looked. Just not
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  Speaker 4: a lot of evaluation going on there for for a
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  Speaker 4: rookie mini camp. But it's good to see the guys
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  Speaker 4: more than anything. You're going to kind of talk to them,
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  Speaker 4: get their demeanor a little bit. And and and that's
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  Speaker 4: one thing that that was very evident about this rookie
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  Speaker 4: class was just how business like it was for these
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  Speaker 4: players and Caleb Downs, you know's starting with him, but
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  Speaker 4: then some of the other guys they're just serious about
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  Speaker 4: you know, football here and the first first you know
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  Speaker 4: time here in the building for a lot of them.
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  Speaker 4: We'll see if that kind of changes or they they
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  Speaker 4: open up a little bit, but it was it was
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  Speaker 4: good to see. I mean, it seems like football is
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  Speaker 4: a huge priority for them, like it should be. But
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  Speaker 4: but sometimes, you know, you get the sense of the
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  Speaker 4: guys come in and they they they love what football
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  Speaker 4: brings to them. We've had some players like that in
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  Speaker 4: this In this instance, though, I feel like from the
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  Speaker 4: top down on Kale Downs is going to kind of
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  Speaker 4: lead this this rookie class the right way. But we
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  Speaker 4: can talk about that in a lot more. Eight A
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  Speaker 4: A eighty five two two nine seven. Let's start with
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  Speaker 4: Chris and Saratoga Springs. Chris, what's up?
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  Speaker 2: What's going on?
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  Speaker 5: Nick?
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  Speaker 6: How are you good?
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  Speaker 4: How are you doing?
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  Speaker 7: I'm not too bad. They need to take care of
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  Speaker 7: this number situation with Kale. They need to give that
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  Speaker 7: number two so we can sell some jerseys.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a little surprised it's taken so long. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I would think that would be one that
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  Speaker 4: they would want to sell right away, you know. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I kind of want to strike while the iron's hot,
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  Speaker 4: right and with the excitement is there for this, for
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  Speaker 4: this you know, draft pick, and not that it won't,
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  Speaker 4: you know, be next week or today, tomorrow, whatever it is.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I would have I would have gotten this
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  Speaker 4: thing done quickly.
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  Speaker 8: And I agree.
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  Speaker 7: I want to just touch base with the trade. When
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  Speaker 7: we sent Osa to San fran got that third round pick,
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  Speaker 7: I think we turned that into a fan. I love
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  Speaker 7: the third round pick in Barsham from Michigan. I think
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  Speaker 7: he's gonna be a dog in the middle. And then
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  Speaker 7: we got lt Overton, which is probably one but obviously
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  Speaker 7: beside Kale my Man from ohiose but one of my
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  Speaker 7: favorite picks of the draft. I wanted him going in
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  Speaker 7: and I'm glad we got him. I think he he's
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  Speaker 7: very similar and can play a lot of the similar
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  Speaker 7: things that Osa could have done. And I think he's
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  Speaker 7: gonna step right in. So we got a linebacker that's
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  Speaker 7: gonna be good, I think. And then we got lt
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  Speaker 7: Overton for Osa. In reality, we got those two players
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  Speaker 7: for him, in my opinion, and I think that's gonna
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  Speaker 7: gonna work out great for us.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, those are the two picks that are that are
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  Speaker 4: very intriguing for me as well, especially Overton. But you know,
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  Speaker 4: Barham might be somebody like he doesn't. He looks a
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  Speaker 4: little out of place at first at linebacker because he's
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  Speaker 4: played at some but not a lot. I think once
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  Speaker 4: he gets a little more fluid there, then he's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be like a beast like I mean, I think he
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  Speaker 4: has the potential to be that. Now it's still third
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  Speaker 4: round pick, but like you said, he he's got the
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  Speaker 4: traits for it. He just didn't play it enough. And
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  Speaker 4: that happens a lot.
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  Speaker 6: Now.
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  Speaker 4: I'll talk about that a little bit more after the call.
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  Speaker 4: Have you got anything else?
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  Speaker 7: No, that's it for today, Nick. I appreciate you taking
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  Speaker 7: my colleges.
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  Speaker 4: Have a good one, man. Thanks for starting us off
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  Speaker 4: the right way. You know, it happens a lot in college,
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  Speaker 4: and you see it a lot more of the small schools,
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  Speaker 4: not so much at Michigan here with Barham, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: you see it where a guy can play corner, but
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  Speaker 4: they move him to safety because if you put them
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  Speaker 4: at corner, no one's gonna ever throw there. So you
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  Speaker 4: put them in safety middle of the field. Let him
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  Speaker 4: go roam a little bit. I've seen, you know, middle
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  Speaker 4: linebackers kind of that way. You know, Khalil Mack at
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  Speaker 4: Buffalo University of Buffalo was sort of that way where
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  Speaker 4: he was really more of an edge rusher. But at Buffalo,
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  Speaker 4: the best players lining up over here, then we're gonna
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  Speaker 4: go over here, you know. So you got to put
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  Speaker 4: these guys in the middle of the field. And I
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  Speaker 4: say that about Barham, I think as a guy that
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  Speaker 4: can rush the passer, I think that they put him there.
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  Speaker 4: Same with Overton. They put him at as a as
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  Speaker 4: a rusher because that's that's what you need to get done.
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  Speaker 4: But in the in the NFL, I think probably a
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  Speaker 4: better position for them a little bit more on the inside,
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  Speaker 4: which surprises me when you think about that, when you
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  Speaker 4: still go back to the Micah Parsons pick and how
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  Speaker 4: he played. You know, he played middle linebacker right there
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  Speaker 4: as well. They didn't move him to a pass rusher,
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  Speaker 4: and that probably cost him some spots in the draft
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  Speaker 4: because I think if everyone would have seen just what
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  Speaker 4: a pass rusher he really was, were drafting a lot earlier.
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  Speaker 4: All Right, I'm a in Napa Valley. I'm a what's up?
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  Speaker 2: What's happening?
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  Speaker 9: Nick?
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  Speaker 10: Good morning?
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  Speaker 7: How are you?
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  Speaker 4: I'm good, Good morning to you.
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  Speaker 9: Man.
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  Speaker 10: I'm just super excited to get through. I've been busy
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  Speaker 10: and just been listening, you know, kind of the playbacks.
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  Speaker 10: But the last couple of weeks I try to get
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  Speaker 10: in and yeah, it was it was tough. But man,
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  Speaker 10: I'm super happy to hear that I made the third team.
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  Speaker 10: Thank you for you and create you know all that
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  Speaker 10: you guys do. Happy to be recognized. But it's not
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  Speaker 10: really why I call. I just called just because I
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  Speaker 10: love talking ball and man, I love listening to just
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  Speaker 10: all of the storyliners and all of the knowledge they give.
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  Speaker 10: So man, thanks you guys all.
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  Speaker 8: It's great.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, thank you so much. I appreciate it. Thanks for
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  Speaker 4: being a part of it. And like you know, a
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  Speaker 4: lot of these guys like yourself on the West Coast,
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  Speaker 4: it's a lot earlier over there when when we start
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  Speaker 4: this show. So I appreciate you waking up with us
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  Speaker 4: and getting in get into the line.
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  Speaker 10: Oh yeah, man, every chance I get. It's uh, you know,
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  Speaker 10: when I travel, I've tried to call in. I've called
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  Speaker 10: I tried to call in a couple of years ago
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  Speaker 10: when I was in Hawaii and didn't get a chance
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  Speaker 10: to make it through. My family thinks I'm crazy. My girls,
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  Speaker 10: I think that I'm crazy that I you know, I
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  Speaker 10: just you know, spend all this time. I mean, they
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  Speaker 10: know who I am around, you know, when it comes
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  Speaker 10: game time and when the season's coming around and all
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  Speaker 10: of the things, you know, you know, start breaking out
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  Speaker 10: all my gear and you know, just all the things right,
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  Speaker 10: And they think that I'm crazy with with how much
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  Speaker 10: attention and time and effort I put into it. But
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  Speaker 10: you know, now, I just grew up loving it. But
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  Speaker 10: you know what's crazy is that I tell them that
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  Speaker 10: there's people that are way more involved and you know,
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  Speaker 10: do way more than I do. Like I'm just hitting
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  Speaker 10: the cusp, you know, and they're just amazed by it.
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  Speaker 10: So but yeah, very cool stuff. Just as far as
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  Speaker 10: the draft, man, I loved it, man, I really Again,
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  Speaker 10: I've been talking about how I feel like since the
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  Speaker 10: Williams trade, I kind of see Jerry's you know, outlook
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  Speaker 10: on everything shoddy, all of this stuff. I just feel
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  Speaker 10: like it's all coming together and it's a plan.
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  Speaker 9: You know.
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  Speaker 10: There was a lot of talk and maybe they'll go offense,
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  Speaker 10: you know, depending on who you know, how the players
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  Speaker 10: fall and stuff. And you know, I'm I don't think
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  Speaker 10: that they ever were planning to go offense, you know.
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  Speaker 10: I think they liked some players, but they were planning
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  Speaker 10: to go defense.
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  Speaker 7: And it looks like.
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  Speaker 10: That's what they did with only going to offensive players
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  Speaker 10: with the tackle and the receiver, which I'm not mad
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  Speaker 10: at the tackle. We're gonna need a tackle eventually. But yeah,
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  Speaker 10: I'm just so excited and hopeful.
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  Speaker 9: Man.
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  Speaker 10: I'm already gearing up for a training camp and all
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  Speaker 10: the stuff, man, so I can try to make it
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  Speaker 10: out to Seattle. Hopefully I can get a Thanksgiving game
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  Speaker 10: this year. So yeah, a lot of excitement. Feel like
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  Speaker 10: we're on the up and up. Downs is going to
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  Speaker 10: be awesome, all.
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  Speaker 4: Right, all right, man, appreciate I'm thanks for the call.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of good enthusiasm, there, a lot of excitement,
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  Speaker 4: and that's it's kind of what you want to I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it's exactly what you want your fan base to to
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  Speaker 4: to be feeling at this time of year. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: especially after the last year and just how how tough
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  Speaker 4: it was to go through a season like that. Really
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  Speaker 4: two years in a row now of a seven win
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  Speaker 4: you know type season and just not not where that
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  Speaker 4: this team, in this franchise should be. We all know
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  Speaker 4: that everybody knows that from the top down. So to
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  Speaker 4: get you know, the fans on board with with just
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  Speaker 4: about as much that you could really hope for. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: there's a couple more free agents I think that you know,
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  Speaker 4: people would have wanted to see maybe linebackers pay a
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  Speaker 4: little bit more for for some of those guys that
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  Speaker 4: like went to the Raiders. But you know, for for
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  Speaker 4: the most part, I think it's been a good it's
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  Speaker 4: it's been a good offseason for this team. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I like the moves that they've made obviously in the draft,
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  Speaker 4: but even before that, you know, they they did what
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  Speaker 4: they're supposed to do, fell some of the needs. Uh
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  Speaker 4: they didn't do it so much with linebacker before the draft,
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  Speaker 4: but then with with the d winners. Barham I think
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  Speaker 4: is going to be a guy to throw in there.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, like I said last week, maybe a
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  Speaker 4: last couple of shows that you know, you still want
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  Speaker 4: your guys to develop, so you don't just want to
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  Speaker 4: say all right, these these guys can't can't play. I
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  Speaker 4: I think that there's some excitement still for Shamar James
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  Speaker 4: over shown hasn't ever really had an offseason where he
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  Speaker 4: hasn't and dealing with an injury. So the fact that
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  Speaker 4: it overshown is going to be a guys starting off
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  Speaker 4: rather healthy. You got those guys there, then, then, like
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  Speaker 4: I said, Bar Hammond and Winners, that's a pretty good start.
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  Speaker 4: There may be a need for more, but I think
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  Speaker 4: as it stands right now, that's probably a pretty good place.
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  Speaker 4: All right. We uh, let's let's gore a break here,
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  Speaker 4: five two two nine seven, Uh is the number. We'll
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  Speaker 4: right back here on Cowboys storyline. Took an early break here,
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  Speaker 4: but now we can kind of get after it. We
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  Speaker 4: got some callers. Daveyon in Illinois. What's up, Davion?
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  Speaker 6: What to do?
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  Speaker 5: My boy?
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  Speaker 7: What to do?
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  Speaker 9: You do it? What's going on? Yeah?
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  Speaker 14: Man?
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  Speaker 8: Been uh been catching the replays because the tik which
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  Speaker 8: is on the on the show left couple if I
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  Speaker 8: couldn't get any of the work. But happy to get
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  Speaker 8: on and get off of some takes here because there's
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  Speaker 8: been a been like going on since the last time
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  Speaker 8: I said, yeah, what you think?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 8: I love the draft class. The draft class looks good.
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  Speaker 8: I think we uh, especially the way that getting the
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  Speaker 8: Eagles for the the two pigs for my for Lawrence
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  Speaker 8: was a bit.
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  Speaker 2: It was was great.
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  Speaker 8: It's just I love getting getting over on the on
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  Speaker 8: the Eagles that just can't stand them.
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  Speaker 4: So uh and yeah, we'll see now. I mean they've
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  Speaker 4: moved up to get Mikay Lemon, who could be, you know,
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  Speaker 4: a beast to handle for years to come, so you
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  Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like it's one of those things
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  Speaker 4: like they got a player too, so uh well, we'll
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  Speaker 4: you know, we'll see how it all shakes out. But
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  Speaker 4: I mean they they got something out of the deal.
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  Speaker 8: Also, well we turned Mica into five players so far,
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  Speaker 8: and uh so I'm like, hey, I appreciate that. That's
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  Speaker 8: so either way how it works out, I think it's
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  Speaker 8: gonna be cool. I think that the sleep of the
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  Speaker 8: draft might be either the cornerback or barr Ham. I
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  Speaker 8: think we gonna I really like the way bar him is.
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  Speaker 8: His demeanor is, uh that's what you want as a
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  Speaker 8: Linebacker's just no nonsense to get at it.
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  Speaker 4: He's kind of on the scary side if you're really
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  Speaker 4: being honest about it, Like if you're just sitting there
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  Speaker 4: looking talking to him, like he's got that vibe, which
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  Speaker 4: is good. That's kind of what you want your little
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  Speaker 4: linebacker to kind of have some bad intentions like that,
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  Speaker 4: Like like that's what it looks like. He might be
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  Speaker 4: the nicest guy ever, but he's he's pretty serious about it,
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  Speaker 4: and he's got that stoic look to him, and he's fierce. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he looks like, yeah, he looks like that's what you
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  Speaker 4: want right there.
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  Speaker 8: Right That's the way I would create my Madden linebacker
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  Speaker 8: if I was creating them, not in the linebacker, that
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  Speaker 8: would be the way he got the number fifty five
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  Speaker 8: and it's just straight let's go yeah, no breaks. That's
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  Speaker 8: that's why I like my linebacker to play life. So
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  Speaker 8: I'm glad we got the demeanor in the room and
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  Speaker 8: it'd be a nice bounce to Demo. But Demo is
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  Speaker 8: uh is there? Everybody?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 8: You know Demo one of my phase. But uh, it
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  Speaker 8: would be good to have him if we both have
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  Speaker 8: him at the same time on them oh man talking
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  Speaker 8: about that, Oh boy, that could be real nasty. But
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  Speaker 8: uh so, really I think Devermore, I think he's gonna
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  Speaker 8: come in and challenge. I don't know. I guess the
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  Speaker 8: Dori Jackson alert yesterday was just all about just either
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  Speaker 8: showing a guy some love or what. I don't know,
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  Speaker 8: But because we seem like we got so many corners.
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  Speaker 8: I don't we want to add another corner to this.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know, but I guess I never was a
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  Speaker 8: fan of Dories, so I don't know if we I
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  Speaker 8: don't know what we were doing that, but it's it's
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  Speaker 8: nice and I won't I want fans to really uh
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  Speaker 8: chill out. I think I think Cal's gonna get his number.
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  Speaker 8: I think they just I think I think right now
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  Speaker 8: to Jones is letting the boys kind of work it out.
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  Speaker 8: And if they don't work it out, I think he's
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  Speaker 8: gonna get his number. I I don't think it's gonna
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  Speaker 8: be a big problem. Just I know it's slow, slow time,
• 15:59
  Speaker 8: so people got me make up stuff to go. So
• 16:01
  Speaker 8: it's but I think Kyler gonna get that number because
• 16:04
  Speaker 8: it's just too much money that'll be made, but not
• 16:07
  Speaker 8: to have that number. Uh And man, I just I'm
• 16:11
  Speaker 8: really excited about trying to get him into ben he
• 16:14
  Speaker 8: Ca'm glad GPS signed to tag uh so we can
• 16:19
  Speaker 8: get that drum behind us and we kind of move forward.
• 16:21
  Speaker 8: We'll see him in June and uh yeah, man, just
• 16:25
  Speaker 8: really looking forward to seeing what's gonna happen the next
• 16:27
  Speaker 8: I guess the next couple weeks while we were kind
• 16:29
  Speaker 8: of down to kind of see what's gonna developed. But
• 16:31
  Speaker 8: I don't think so far, no big time drama so far.
• 16:35
  Speaker 8: That's that's man, that's a good things freshing. I still
• 16:40
  Speaker 8: don't understand why people were really tripping on the on
• 16:43
  Speaker 8: Ferd because I think Trick. I think we need to
• 16:46
  Speaker 8: calm down on Trig. He's gonna be good, but I
• 16:49
  Speaker 8: don't think he's going supplant Ferd just that quick. I
• 16:52
  Speaker 8: mean he's gonna probably take out.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: Anybody saying that, is anybody saying that.
• 17:00
  Speaker 8: Legitimate, Yeah, yeah, yeah, is a FERG. I was like, oh,
• 17:06
  Speaker 8: they so, But I mean the high training, the high
• 17:08
  Speaker 8: training that Nick I get it.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: I just there was two hundred and thirty seven draft
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: picks that went by that nobody decided to pick him,
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: So like I would slow that down just a little bit,
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: that he's going to come in and unsee the two
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: time pro bowler. But but I mean that's not where
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: it needs to be. Like he needs to come in
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: here and be better than than Brevern span Ford, and
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: better than Scoon Maker and and and Princeton Fan and
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: those tight ends that are in there, and better than
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: the I think it's Rogers, uh, the other free agent
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: you know, tight end. So you know, if I remember correctly,
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: the guy that got the most money last year from
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: any free agent signing. And I don't think I could
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: even say his name. Was it fair Weather? I can't
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: remember from all.
• 17:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah he's in Arizona now, but yeah he's a so
• 17:59
  Speaker 8: they get him tight but.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: But measurables and and and you know, playmaking ability and
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: all that is outstanding. But you know, he didn't. He
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: hasn't landed in a spot now. He hasn't played I
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: think on a team for more than a year. So
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: I mean there's a reason why that everyone wants to
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: sign them. And then there's also a reason why they
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: are okay letting him go. So uh, that's just something
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: he's got to, you know, grow up, mature like all
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: these guys do. So all right, thanks for the call, man,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: good a lot of good stuff there. Yeah, I haven't
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: heard that as far. I've heard the excitement about Trigg,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: but not not to the point where he's going to
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: beat out anybody anytime soon. And and that that you know,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: but if that's the goal, great, you know, because if
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: his goal is to do that as long as it's
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: done the right way, then landing this you know, third spot,
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: second spot, that's that would be a pretty good, you know,
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: pretty good situation. We'll see what happens with schoon Maker.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Everybody's kind of you know, he's in a contract year,
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: everyone's kind of writing him off. But we've seen these
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: situations before. I'm not really down on him that much.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: He hasn't been what you would expect out of a
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: second round pick, there's no doubt about it. And Ferguson's
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: a big reason why. I mean, when when you just
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: look at the games that that schoon Maker has started
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: in place of Ferguson, you would be okay with these numbers.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: They're not outstanding, but you'd be okay with them, uh,
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: you know, five or six catches. He gets that, you know,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: in those games. So it's been okay, but just not
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: like dynamic or anything like that. Pretty good blocking tight end.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: But you know, right now, there's not one hundred percent
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: sure that that span Ford can't do some of those
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: same things. All right, let's keep the calls going. Irene
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: in Falls Church, New York is next. Irene oh False Church,
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: New York, Virginia.
• 19:52
  Speaker 15: I like that I like that.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: There is a false church. I mean, you know, there's
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: probably a church near Niagara Falls, so that's exactly yeah.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: In fact, I mean, isn't that where Jim and Pam
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: got married in the office something like that. Anyways, I'm going,
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: I'm going.
• 20:07
  Speaker 16: I love it.
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: I love it, Virginia.
• 20:11
  Speaker 15: That's all good.
• 20:12
  Speaker 16: How's it going.
• 20:14
  Speaker 13: Good?
• 20:14
  Speaker 15: So I'll comment on the Trig stuff. So I am.
• 20:17
  Speaker 15: I am kind of excited about him because some people
• 20:19
  Speaker 15: had him like their third tight end on the board.
• 20:21
  Speaker 15: I know there's off the field stuff and we've seen
• 20:23
  Speaker 15: that happen with you know, Rico Suave, where okay, he
• 20:27
  Speaker 15: had all the athletic traits, but you know, couldn't put
• 20:30
  Speaker 15: it together. Although for him, I think he was much
• 20:32
  Speaker 15: more raw in the positions. There's a little bit more hope.
• 20:35
  Speaker 16: For me on this.
• 20:35
  Speaker 15: But I'm trying this year not to get so hyped
• 20:39
  Speaker 15: about you know, wide Receiver six or or you know,
• 20:44
  Speaker 15: undrapt of free agents. I'm like, I'm excited, but temperate, right,
• 20:50
  Speaker 15: But I had two things I wanted to call about.
• 20:52
  Speaker 15: Did anybody talk about the false step with Malachi Lawrence yet?
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: I think so? I don't think, so.
• 21:01
  Speaker 15: Okay, so I had to have Dylan sent me videos
• 21:05
  Speaker 15: to tell me what this actually was. But apparently Malachi
• 21:08
  Speaker 15: Lawrence basically has like this hitch before he gets off
• 21:11
  Speaker 15: in his two point stance where he lifts his front foot,
• 21:15
  Speaker 15: so it's it's delaying him a little bit. But and
• 21:18
  Speaker 15: I don't want to go into technicality that obviously makes
• 21:21
  Speaker 15: slows him down. But I love that he brought it
• 21:23
  Speaker 15: up in his interview that the coaches during Ricky Mini Camp,
• 21:26
  Speaker 15: that was something they focus on. So they they're like, Okay,
• 21:30
  Speaker 15: we see all your potential, here's a flaw. Let's let's
• 21:32
  Speaker 15: start right there. So I love that. I don't feel like,
• 21:35
  Speaker 15: I know, I'm sure they do this, but I liked
• 21:37
  Speaker 15: actually hearing that, Okay, they're working on something immediately.
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: And then for my.
• 21:43
  Speaker 15: Prediction, I guess for the defense, there's there's a lot
• 21:46
  Speaker 15: of talk about, oh my gosh, we could be top twelve.
• 21:49
  Speaker 15: I think brought us said that top ten whatever. I'm
• 21:52
  Speaker 15: just I think more realistic is something like eighteen, which
• 21:56
  Speaker 15: would be a dramatic improvement. And that's not any shot
• 21:59
  Speaker 15: against any of the players we've gotten or Christian Parker.
• 22:02
  Speaker 15: It's just more how do you launch to top ten
• 22:06
  Speaker 15: or twelve in year one, right, I think there's potential,
• 22:09
  Speaker 15: but I'd be happy with eighteen. And then I wanted
• 22:14
  Speaker 15: to ask you, besides the big one that we don't
• 22:16
  Speaker 15: want to say out loud, what would be the biggest
• 22:18
  Speaker 15: risk of a setback for the offense, Because I feel
• 22:21
  Speaker 15: like we've gotten we have most of the people back,
• 22:24
  Speaker 15: and I think we're taking for granted that we're still
• 22:26
  Speaker 15: going to be a top five And I was trying
• 22:29
  Speaker 15: to think, like, is it defense is adjusting to us?
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: Is it okay?
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: Shot?
• 22:33
  Speaker 15: He has his bag of tricks, he hasn't expanded, Like,
• 22:36
  Speaker 15: what do you think besides the one that of course
• 22:38
  Speaker 15: would derail anything? And I'll take that off there.
• 22:41
  Speaker 16: Right, Thanks?
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: Thanks airon good A lot of good stuff there, you
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: know for the last part. I mean, what you have
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: going for you is just the fact that you've got
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: multiple weapons that can scare a defense. I mean, you
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: just can't play straight up with CD, can't really play
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: straight up with Pickings. And so what happened? Then? You
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: know who who can who checks? You know, Ferguson is
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: just linebacker because that that's where he can he can
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: really you know, go to where U Ryan Flinoy could
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: be taking it to the next level his game and
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: then obviously Turpen's got world class speeds, so you put
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: him out there and then he could be a mismatch it.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Not to mention the running game with Javonte. So I
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: say all that to say that that that's what is
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: going for you. There is just all of these weapons,
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: this pick your poisoned type of offense, and if that's
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: not there, if it's not as potent with with all
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: of the things, then obviously that's that's where it gets,
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: you know, it get it gets challenging. But I still
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: think this offense, though, is going to be cooking. I
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: mean we saw look look at the Detroit game, the
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: one that they lost. But if you just remember go back,
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: remember CD was having a day. I mean he really was.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: He may not remember it, but he was having a day.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Did get the concussion? Not not to make light of that,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: that serious thing. I think he was okay that The
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Cowboys and like they should, were very very cautious on that.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: But if Flinoy steps in the rest of the game.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: But Flinoy has has a you know, breakout game as well,
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: so I think it just goes to show that the
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: offense can be really, really good. And as long as
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: they've got all of those weapons, then I think that's
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: where they can be dangerous to. Your question to me
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: is when you start losing some of those, you start
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: dipping into the depth, and then that's where you know,
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: that's where it's going to be a challenge because their
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: defense obviously, you know, is not or hasn't been able
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: to kind of keep up there. Now you said, you know,
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: eighteen whatever. Right now they're all at zero, you know
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: what I mean, it's all at the bottom and we'll
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: see from there what type of team this is. And
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: you know, maybe if the offense can come down but
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: control the football, you know, even if they're not the
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: highest scoring team, but if they can troll the ball
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: even more, that's what's going to help the defense to
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: the defense might have better numbers just from the simple
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: fact that the offense controls it more with a little
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: bit more time of possession. And then as far as
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: that hitch goes with with Malachai Lawrence, I like that
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: he's coming in the door, you know, knowing the things
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: he's got to work on. That it's a business now,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: it's not you know, well, I guess I guess it
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: is now in college football too. It's it's very much
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: a business. But you know, you got other things going on.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: This is your profession, this is what you do, and
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: you go in and you fix these things. Colways had
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: a center twenty years ago that was a pretty good center.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: But every single snap he was doing something with his
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: hand his other hand, and it was and everybody knew
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: that the snap was about to happen, so they had
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: to come and fix that. And uh and that could
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: be you know, problematic because people watch tape two. All right,
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: Lester and Minnesota is up? Lester. No William in West Virginia.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: Sorry William.
• 25:53
  Speaker 17: Hey Nick, how are we doing, sir?
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Good?
• 25:55
  Speaker 18: Are you doing pretty good? First of all, I want
• 25:58
  Speaker 18: to give a shout out to our old Rob Phillips.
• 26:00
  Speaker 18: I was just really glad to see how about his book,
• 26:03
  Speaker 18: you know, the strollers and steakhouts and I hope by
• 26:06
  Speaker 18: goes to get the copy yet.
• 26:07
  Speaker 17: But it's like I said, I.
• 26:09
  Speaker 18: Miss Rob being on the platform. He's a really great
• 26:11
  Speaker 18: guy to get still keep.
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: Up with him and everything.
• 26:13
  Speaker 17: But Rob wrote a book, you did, he wrote a book.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: I'm just kidding, Come on, I know you know that.
• 26:19
  Speaker 16: I know you know they're sitting up.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: In my office right now. I actually went to a
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: bookstore over the weekend and I asked them for it.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: I asked them for the copy and they're like they
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: looked it up, and they like, we don't have any.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: We're going to get some and all this stuff and
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: they're like, man, you know I could play this in
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: order for it. Was like, no, I already have a copy.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: I just wanted to see if where it was. What,
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: you know, it's pretty cool. Yeah, it's called Steakouts and
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Strollers and it the the the cover can be a
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: little deceiving because it's it looks like it's kind of
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: a you know, like it's because it's a you know,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: it's a cartoon type picture, but it's not a novel.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: And it's you know, it's got some f bombs thrown
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: in there too. So I was like, okay, Rob, No,
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: I'm really proud of him, and I mean want a
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: contest to get that, to to get the book off
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: the ground. And so now it's finally it's hitting the shelf.
• 27:07
  Speaker 18: So it's an awesome I mean, he could start he
• 27:09
  Speaker 18: could start catching you a number of books before.
• 27:10
  Speaker 17: It's gonna be tough.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: It's gonna be well, you know what, the the novel
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: that you know that that that he wrote actually can
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: be a series, and I think he's gonna start working
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: on that. So yes, yes he can. But uh, but
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: I'll have some news to drop there as well too.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: So he did. He did gain one on me. But
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: I'm about to to add another one to to the
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: mix here in the next couple of weeks, a couple
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: of months. I gotta get effort, so talk. No, the
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: walls aren't talking for now, but if they do, you
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: know that it'll it'll be a different set of walls
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: around here. We we might do that, actually, because when
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: I wrote the first book, if these walls could talk,
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: I know you're not talking about books, but when I
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: wrote that first book, it was after I've been here
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: fifteen years. So right, if I get to thirty, which
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: is just a couple of years away, maybe the walls
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: need to talk again for a part two editions, maybe
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: dak on the cover this time.
• 28:10
  Speaker 16: I'd be all for that. I'd be all for that.
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: But my question was was, basically, would you take a
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: comparison George Kickens and Alvin Harper be fair, because I
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: think it's probably the most explosive duo they've had since that.
• 28:21
  Speaker 17: I just want to see what your thought was on that.
• 28:23
  Speaker 17: But yeah, but like you said, I've got I've got
• 28:25
  Speaker 17: your first book, and I'll get a second call. I'll
• 28:27
  Speaker 17: get a copy of the next onehen it comes out.
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: You know that, say that?
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Say that again, Well, what was the what was the
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: question that you had?
• 28:35
  Speaker 17: Would you compare when I see George Pickens, I think
• 28:38
  Speaker 17: Alvin Harper? Would you think that'd be a fair comparison
• 28:40
  Speaker 17: with a little bit more explosive because I was probably
• 28:42
  Speaker 17: the most explosive duo they've had since maybe Irvin and
• 28:45
  Speaker 17: Harper and then Tony Hill and Drew Pearson. Just my thought,
• 28:49
  Speaker 17: I just want to get your take on that, because
• 28:50
  Speaker 17: you're a historian of the game like me, and I
• 28:52
  Speaker 17: just thought, you know, maybe i'd like to get your
• 28:54
  Speaker 17: take on that.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: Well, all right, I appreciate the call. Thanks. Uh well,
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: let me let me see about so Alvin Harper, I
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: I can't hear you this our headset went out, so
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: that you're talking about Alvin Harper. Chris helped me with
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: detech in the in the in the chat here about
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: what he is who he's trying to compare it to,
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: and we're gonna go to break. We're gonna go to
• 29:16
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  Speaker 4: William West, Virginia. I actually unplugged the headset here, so
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: I was trying to listen off this headset. I just
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: heard Alvin Harper. I don't know who you'd be comparing
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Alvin Harper to. Probably wasn't George Picking, So I don't
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  Speaker 4: Leicester in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 16: Hey, good morning, Matt.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: How are you doing and I'm doing good?
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  Speaker 8: Man?
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  Speaker 5: How you doing out there?
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  Speaker 4: Good? What's up?
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  Speaker 5: I think I looked at a I looked at some
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: college ratings, and I know it doesn't all the way
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: transferred to the NFL, but I looked at some college ratings,
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: and then I looked at our I rated some looked
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: at some ratings of some players from that we kept
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: from last year. I think, and I'm speaking on the
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: defense part the ratings that I'm mentioning, I think that
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: we could get up to nineteen man, with with what
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: I'm seeing and what I envisioned that Parker is going
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: to do. I'm not exactly sure what he's going to do,
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: but from what he said, and like I said, I'm
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: a deepsive guys, so I'm saying we can get up
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: to nineteen.
• 32:02
  Speaker 9: Man.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: I'm real impressed with the things that our first round
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: picked people have said about him. Uh Saving you know,
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: was his coach when he was a freshman. And I
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: saw a little video on the reaction of neighbors from
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: from the Giants and when we picked uh Caleb, his
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: reaction it was so funny.
• 32:30
  Speaker 16: Man.
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: He got up out of his check because he was
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: sitting in the chair and he was talking to somebody. Said, Man,
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: I don't want to how to deal with this guy again.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: He said, Man, we should have picked him. I sold
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: them to pick him. So with that sort of reaction, man,
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: I'm just like real excited about this guy. Man, Wow,
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: I just.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: I like it. I like that of wide receivers worried
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: about a safety that the camera. Yeah, now he might.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: You know, he needs to be a little careful there,
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: because they did they did take an offensive tackle that
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: they're they're trying to show up the line so the
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: quarterback can have a little bit more room to throw it,
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: more time to throw it to the receivers like him.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: So you know, you shouldn't be that upset. It's not
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: like they didn't try to help his side of the
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: ball too.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: But I get that's just showing respect though. Yeah, one player.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: Not Usually players don't react like that. They'll say, oh,
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: yeah he's a good player. Sure, you know, we got
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: to look out for him. But this guy was visibly upset.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah that's funny.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: Well, well that's all I got. Man.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Cowboys all right, have a good way. Yeah, it's you know,
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: and it happens all the time. I mean, you think
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: about how many times the Cowboys have seen the the
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: the Giants and the Commanders drafting in the top ten.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot of good players that have
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: gone through to these teams, and you know, you just
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: it's just the nature of it. I mean they they
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: they've earned those top picks and then they're gonna get
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: good players and so and that happened. I mean, they
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: got cowboys gotta deal with. I wonder what it was
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: like for for Terrence Steele or Tyler Geydon. I see
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Reese go into the Giants like, I got to deal
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: with this guy, you know. But that that's just kind
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: of the nature of it. But there's no doubt Caleb
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Downs has got just a lot of respect around the league.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: And you know, he's not the biggest guy in the world.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's one thing very noticeable here at at camp.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying he's you know, he's too short, spud
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: web running around there, but I'm just saying that he's
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: you know, when he's been pumped up so much over
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: the last few you know, weeks, really months, that when
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: you get him, you're like, oh my god, they get
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: this guy. And then you know you're expecting he's going
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: to be six four, two thirty and that's not it.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: That's not what he what he plays. But he'll he'll
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: be just fine. But I think, yeah, just my first
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: impression was I thought he was a little taller than
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: this and even when he came in, you know, in
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: his first visit, he had this hat really high and
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: all that, so you didn't really see all that. Put
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: the helmet on, went out there with the other players.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: I was a little surprised that that he was not taller,
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: but not worried that he's not going to be a baller.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not trying to wrap here, but that's
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: just the way it went out. Dylan Northwark, Florida, Dylan,
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: what's up?
• 35:23
  Speaker 10: That was pretty sick?
• 35:24
  Speaker 9: Seen have you seen his thighs?
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: Man?
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Is what his.
• 35:29
  Speaker 19: Thighs his legs are like the size of Sakwon Barkleys.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: Okay, I didn't. I didn't get there.
• 35:35
  Speaker 19: But not checking that out, I.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: Didn't get there, But I'm not worried at all because
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: I know who did. Every team in the league has.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: You know, that's what happens with these with these picks.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: They they dissect everything. And No, he'll be fine. He's
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: he's going to be a great, great player. And I'm
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: I just love the fact that he I know he's
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: going to come in and study like he's going to
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: come in and just love to watch film. And that's
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: what's gonna make you better. And he's gonna find you know,
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: like y'all talk about the Malaki lawrence and whatever hits
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: he's got, he's gonna find it in the tight end
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: with you know, the Cardinals or whoever. You know, maybe
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: not Trey McBride, but you know, I'm talking about just somebody.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: He's just gonna find something as an advantage and I
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: think I think that's what we're really going to help
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: his defense.
• 36:26
  Speaker 19: Yeah, and what's cool to having a guy like that
• 36:27
  Speaker 19: who's gonna be hopefully a cornerstone for this team for
• 36:30
  Speaker 19: the next decade. It's your your leaders on the team
• 36:34
  Speaker 19: are He's going to be we all think a great player,
• 36:37
  Speaker 19: but he's also gonna, you know, just he's gonna show
• 36:39
  Speaker 19: the qualities and what it takes is because you're a
• 36:41
  Speaker 19: he is kind of an undersized guy, not not like
• 36:44
  Speaker 19: by a crazy amount, but he's a smaller guy. But
• 36:46
  Speaker 19: he's going to show these dudes, you can be an
• 36:48
  Speaker 19: elite player if you do these things right, you study right,
• 36:51
  Speaker 19: you take your job as a professional seriously, and everything
• 36:54
  Speaker 19: he does, that's the kind of guy you want, you know,
• 36:57
  Speaker 19: a guy who leaves on the field and off the field,
• 36:59
  Speaker 19: So I did have him kind of on all fronts,
• 37:01
  Speaker 19: but I wanted to talk about what I even was
• 37:04
  Speaker 19: talking about the offensive risk A couple of things here.
• 37:07
  Speaker 19: I think your risk is your tackles. I think we
• 37:09
  Speaker 19: all know the tackle play has not been acceptable over
• 37:11
  Speaker 19: the past season two seasons.
• 37:14
  Speaker 10: So if they're.
• 37:14
  Speaker 19: Gonna take a step back offensively, I think it's because
• 37:17
  Speaker 19: of the risk that the offensive tackles posed here not
• 37:21
  Speaker 19: being the best. Guy just has to make it through
• 37:23
  Speaker 19: a camp healthy and we'll see if he can start
• 37:25
  Speaker 19: to develop into something. But first things first, just get
• 37:28
  Speaker 19: through camp healthy. As the defensive rankings, we keep talking
• 37:32
  Speaker 19: about that, I just want to share in twenty twenty three,
• 37:35
  Speaker 19: twenty twenty two, twenty twenty one, the Cowboys were ranked fifth, fifth,
• 37:39
  Speaker 19: and seventh defensively in points allowed, and we all know
• 37:42
  Speaker 19: the weakness of those teams with the defense, right, I
• 37:44
  Speaker 19: think at the end of the day, so I don't
• 37:46
  Speaker 19: think this as important as rankings goes. You just need
• 37:48
  Speaker 19: a defense too. Like at the offensive struggling, it's not
• 37:51
  Speaker 19: twenty one nothing by halftime or you know, defense, I
• 37:55
  Speaker 19: can just get a stop at some point and get
• 37:56
  Speaker 19: the offense back to go and get you a field range,
• 37:58
  Speaker 19: Like I don't really care about the ranking. I don't
• 38:00
  Speaker 19: mean a professional quality defense that can help out every
• 38:03
  Speaker 19: now and then. Yeah, that's I think a great starting
• 38:06
  Speaker 19: point for this team. That's honestly.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: That's what's crazy is that like all these numbers and
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: all that, Like, like you said, I'm glad you pointed
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: that out because you just you just gave some proof
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: that having high numbers doesn't necessarily mean that you're gonna
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: be good enough. But it's it just comes down to, like,
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: can you just get off the field. I mean, how
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: many times you know when you're playing like justin Herbert
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: or something, and it's like fourth and four and they're
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: gonna go for it, and you're like, we're not. We're
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: not gonna stop them. You just not. You just know
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: you're not. But if you're on offense and you've got
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: CD and and and Dak and Pickens and it's fourth
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: and four, you're like, man, four yards is a lot,
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: Like that's a god, maybe we should punt, you know.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: But on the other side, with this Cowboys defense, you
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: were like, they're not, they're not stopping them. I Mean
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: there's been times when I was wondering why last year
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: the teams didn't just go for two more because I
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: just didn't think they're top them.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 39:02
  Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, And you know when we look at those teams,
• 39:06
  Speaker 19: you know, those those defenses were perceived to be you know,
• 39:09
  Speaker 19: solid defenses, and they weren't bad, but their success was
• 39:12
  Speaker 19: predicated upon the offense jumping out quickly and putting up
• 39:14
  Speaker 19: a bunch of punch because they couldn't stop the run,
• 39:17
  Speaker 19: which has been an issue for a long time. I
• 39:19
  Speaker 19: think we're we're finally better in that regard. But yeah,
• 39:22
  Speaker 19: I just need a professional, quality defense man that can
• 39:24
  Speaker 19: hold their own every now and then and just give
• 39:26
  Speaker 19: this team a chance where it's not all in the offense.
• 39:28
  Speaker 19: And that's that's all I care about, dude, that's all
• 39:31
  Speaker 19: I want.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 39:31
  Speaker 19: I think what we'll have that moving forward.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Dylan, thanks for the call. I'm glad.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: I'm glad you said that, because you know, numbers, numbers can't,
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: you know, sometimes not tell all the story. And and
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: the Cowboys have had some good defenses, you know, throughout
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: the regular season, and then they've lost games in the playoffs,
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: so particularly the one with the Packers, you know where
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: it's just they just had no answers there, and so
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: so it does come down to mismatches at times. But
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: I still feel like it's a mindset, and I do
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: think Christian Parker is going to help with that with
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: the mindset and get it to the point where you know,
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: this defense won't be as predictable. Now the player is
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: gonna have to be good enough to be multiple. You
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: can't just say we're gonna be multiple because Rob Ryan's
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: defense is Way back in the day, they were multiple.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: I mean they they would run two or three defenses,
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: you know, like in a month. They were like, we're
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: gonna this game. We're gonna do this with it was
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: always trying to to to to throw some some different
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: kind of gadget out there, and the players just weren't
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: good enough to understand all of that. I mean, it's
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: it's not easy to do that and keep changing it up.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: So there's got to be a give and take there.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: You don't want to have the same vanilla defense all
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: the time that everybody can understand. But at the same time,
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: it's got to be kind of back and forth. And
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: so I think that Christian Parker will be able to
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: do that. But then again, you know he's never called
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: defense either. I mean, like like it's it's still the
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: same with Caleb Downs. I mean, the people that were
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: having high expectations for have never called defense in the league.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: They've never played in the league. So we'll see. I mean,
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: I think that everyone knows that they're going to be good,
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: but they haven't gotten there yet. And that's that's what's
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: going to be the fun of it. I think this
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: season is just watching these guys kind of learn and
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: grow together. And if the offense continue to do what
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: they've done on that side of the ball, then then
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a really good turnaround
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: for this for this team. Eric in Arkansas, Eric, what's.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Up, man? How's it going good? How are you man?
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: I can't complain. I tell you what. I think. This
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: is one of the first times in a long time
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: that we actually was proactive instead of reactive in our
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: draft picks, even moving up to the number eleven to
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: get make sure we get down all the things that
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: are happening now. And the players, if you listen to
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: the interviews, man, they get it. They're talking about them,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: They talking about the playbook, wanting to play book and
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: learn to play. That's that's a different route that we've taken.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: We haven't taken a long time concentrating on defense. Man,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: I'm the defense killed us yet last year it was horrible.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we should have been wearing thirty third.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: I know it's going to do teams, but we we
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: were terrible, man.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: And that and to get a guy like Downs, who's
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: going to, you know, barring any injuries, gonna be your
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: cornerstone for a while. And we haven't have a leader
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: on defense on the defensive side, I mean, come on,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: in a long time. I mean, we wanted, we wanted
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Parsons to be their leader. But Parsons was really that
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: type of he wasn't a leader like that. These guys, no, no, no,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: these guys here you can hear it, and you can
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: you can feel anybody's been around sports and know that
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: these guys are gonna be leaders. Yeah, and it's gonna
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: be the cornerstone.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: That's a really good point, Eric, I mean, you're you're
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: you're right, and uh, you can be a great great
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: player doesn't mean you're a leader. But and it's hard, though,
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: to be a leader without being a great player. I mean,
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: you know, that's that's difficult. I've seen some players around
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: here that were like really good, had leadership qualities. One
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: of them is now a coach in the NFL. But
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: he was here on this team and he just wasn't
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: He couldn't be a leader because he was third team.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: You know, who's gonna look at that, so it happens.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's another player that comes to mind that
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: that was, you know, good solid player, but he wasn't
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: like a leader leader. And if you if you think
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: about it, when you ask, you know, who are the
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: greatest leaders in the history of sports. I mean it's
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: usually Hall of Fame guys, you know, Hall of famers.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: So you've got to be good enough there. And and
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: you know, Michael Parsons was was was great enough, but
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: that just wasn't his style. And I'm not gonna sit
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: here and and you know, kill him for it. I mean,
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: that's just that wasn't That wasn't his thing. But I
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: think Caleb Downs that think it is his thing.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, here's the good thing about it is, you
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: know he usually when we get a guy like Downs,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: he would have to be coming in naturally being the leader.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: But you already have like Williams, you have you have
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: guys that are already done it, you know what I mean.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: So Clark, Williams, Clark, those guys are going to be
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: you know, your cornerstones, your your your leaders. But they
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: just going to learn from them as well how to
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: keep their body right and things of that nature.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: That's great. That's a great point. And and you know,
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: and that's and this whole safety room is you know
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: right now. Yeah, Milie Cooker is still here. I I
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: think he still will be. But but you know, you
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: got Jalen Thompson, you got you know, PJ.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Locke.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's some they have overhauled that position as
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: good as any position on this team. So yeah, he's
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: going to learn from some from some of those guys too.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: You know. You know, Malie Cooker first round pick from
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: Ohio State and he was you know what fifteen fourteen
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: something like that, you know, just several years ago with
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: the Colts. But you know, in his career didn't turn
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: out like like you you would imagine. So it's a
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: good example too that you know, just because you're picked
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: here and all the expectations doesn't mean it's gonna work out.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: But I still think cale Down's going to come into
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: this room and learn from some of these vets.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the defense I think is gonna I mean,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: we always said last year we want to be in
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: the middle of the road, right, So I'm I'm giving
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: them met and I'm not going to put I don't
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: want to put a lot of high expectations on them
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: because it's gonna be a it is gonna be a
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: learning curve. But man, just to see where we are now,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: it's just going to be from the players that we had.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: We can probably name I could name half the starters
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: last year because I'm like, who is this guy? What
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: is who? I'm like, who it is? But now these
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: guys man, Like I said, I'm excited about it. My
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: only concern it's the whole thing, not just defense. As
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: our backup quarterback, I hope that we can kind of
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: get that solidified. I like Milton, but he has to
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: show some changes, some some and he got to show
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: some improvement this year. Okay, I know we got how
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: but we we still have to show some improvement on
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: that back up because anything can happen.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: Sure now you're you're right, and that that'll be that's
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: probably you know what Irene was alluding to in the
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: last call about you know things that that could derail it,
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: and that's going to derail just about any team in
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: the league if something like that happens. But you know,
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: it's up to dak to to you know, for for
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: starters to you know, get his body right and you
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: know and try to you know, and then you can't
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: avoid the you know, weird stuff. You know that that
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: happens that you know, fluky things. But you know, I
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: think the Cowboys trust that that he's definitely doing that.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: But behind them, yeah, I mean there's there's been games,
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: there's been seasons where you know, they've had to go
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: into the backup spot. I think how you know, how
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: started games didn't have the most success, But he has
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: started games. He hasn't had I can promise he hasn't
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: had this kind of talent around him. And and Milton
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: will continue to to you know, progress and develop as well.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: So I don't I don't think it's a terrible spot
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: honestly for for the for this team to have guys
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: that have played in the in the league that they've
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: started and and they'll be you know, they're relatively young
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: and push each other. I think I think it's a
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: pretty good situation to have. Erwin in Colorado is our
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: next caller.
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: Good morning, Neck, How are you good?
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: How are you?
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: I'm doing good?
• 47:37
  Speaker 9: Hey?
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: Those Avalanche still scoring goals over there.
• 47:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they are.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: The snow up here, it's kind of crazy at the
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: snowing for the last twelve hours.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: No, I'm talking about the hockey team.
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: No, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I know what you're
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: talking about.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: Okay, because we're not talking weather, we're talking hockey. You know,
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: haven't forbid we're talking about weather, but let's talk about hockey. No,
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: I was just I've been watching it a little bit.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: I was I was bummed the Stars didn't make it,
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: but man, I don't know if they would have done
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: anything against the Avalanche, so it doesn't really matter. Yeah,
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: anyway up here on storyline, all right, what you got Irwin?
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so just a couple of things, Nick, I was
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: watching that clip. I'm sure most people did. You know,
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: came down to the last I guess ten seconds before
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: the Cowboys got that picking with Caleb Downs. It was
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: kind of crazy. Reminded me years ago when Minnesota did
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: that and they didn't make their time, and teams were
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: jumping over them, and he was just kind of kind
• 48:32
  Speaker 6: of crazy. But the other thing I wanted to touch on,
• 48:35
  Speaker 6: I don't know how you feel about it or most
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: storyliners and fans is, man, I'm really worried about this
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: Christian Parker moving on here the next year or two.
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: It sounds like he's really gonna Yeah, I'm just kind
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: of worried that he's going to do some really good
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: things here. And you know how you know how it
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: is every year it's almost the same teams. They don't
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: give their coaches a chance. They fire them after a
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: year or two, and then they're rehiring coaches. It's basically
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: the same teams. I just feel like, you know, Christian
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: Parker is going to come in here, you know, year
• 49:07
  Speaker 6: or two, and he's gonna do some really good things,
• 49:10
  Speaker 6: and he's gonna get plucked from us. I don't know
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: how you would, you know what you think about it?
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know, I look at it like
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: that's a great That's a great thing, isn't it.
• 49:22
  Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, no, it.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Is a great thing.
• 49:25
  Speaker 6: It's I mean, I'm sure that most coaches want.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: It's almost like Stephen Jones saying, Guys, I'm really worried
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: about this Caleb Downs contract situation in three or four
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: years because he's going to come in here, he's gonna
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: be the best in the league, and now we're gonna
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: have to pay all this money for him. I'm like,
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: all right, welln't that a good problem to have. I mean,
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: you deal with when you deal with it. But if
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: that's the case, he's not gonna do it. I could
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: tell you ebra Flus didn't get a job like that,
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and either the Zimmer based
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: off what So my point is is that to do that,
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: you're going to reap some benefits, and the benefits are
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: going to be a defense is going to be turning around.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: And if he's gonna move on that quick, that means
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: it made a huge turnaround. I think you just deal
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: with that. That's the way I take it. I mean,
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: I I don't. That's just kind of the way life is.
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, you don't, I don't know, you don't.
• 50:15
  Speaker 6: You don't like it just seems like when we get
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: a good coach or something like that, you know, seeing
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: start going our way, like thirty years. Something happens when
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: we end up boozing them and it's just right back
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: to ground zero again.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: That's that's what's.
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: Fucking I get it. But I mean I think that's
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: pretty premature. I mean urban, have you ever called a
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: defense in the NFL?
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: I haven't. And guess who else? Chrisner Parker. So let's
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: let him call a defense or two before we you know,
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: we say, oh my god, he's about to get out
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: the door. Let's let's just see I know this, there's
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: a little bit of a sentiment about that going around
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: to like, let's let's slow down a little bit on
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: on all of them, I mean, Caleb uh, Christier Parker,
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: I mean all of these guys, because because the excitement
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: is is is real. But there's gonna be a learning curve, you.
• 51:03
  Speaker 6: Know, Yeah, you mad You make a good point there.
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: You never know what he's gonna bring. It could be
• 51:07
  Speaker 6: a complete bus and he could be like great things,
• 51:10
  Speaker 6: So you just never know you're completely through.
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's gonna be a complete buster. He's
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: he's he's smart and and he he knows how. He's
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: a good teacher and I and that's not just I
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: mean that's important for all of us. If you have kids,
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: you understand just how important it is for you know
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: what what a really good teacher can do, not just
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: to teach you how to do it, but the confidence
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: along the way. I think he's going to be good.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: I think he relates to the player as well. But again,
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: you know, shot, he said all the right things last
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: year too, and then you know it got to the
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: season and I'm not saying he didn't do a good job,
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: but I mean it was it was tough. I don't
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: think anyone was expecting him to just win seven games
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: last year, so there could be a little bit of
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: a learning curve for him as well.
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks a lot.
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: Thank you. Watching NFL Network, they're talking about the notable
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: Cowboys defensive additions, and you know they needed them. I
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: mean when you look at Catle Downs, Malachi Lawrence, Quentin
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: Williams came in middle of the year with Shawn Gary,
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: Kenny Clark from last year, the winners, but you know,
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: as far as Gary and Winners and Downs and then
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: another year of Quinin Williams is kind of like a
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: half of them. He can't. He came in here and
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: he did some good things. But I think a whole
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: off season with this system, I think, you know, him
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: and Kenny Clark together, I think it's like almost like
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: getting a new player healthy overshown in the offseason. I mean,
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: that's that's relatively new. Knock On wood On Deron Bland
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: revel I mean, just think about that. I mean, like,
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: like this is definitely glass half full. But just think
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: about if Savone revel Is develops into the type of
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: corner that people were expecting him to be before his injury,
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: which was pretty much first round type pick. If he
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: gets gives you that, that's just you know, that would
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: be a huge steal, and it would be one that
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: the Cowboys should get credit for because that's that's kind
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: of what they've done. They've done that in the past.
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: They take these, you know, draft picks. There's a risk reward,
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: and we've seen the risk. Let's see if it's time
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: for the reward. All right, Jr. And Avondale Arizona Jr.
• 53:31
  Speaker 7: Hey, what's up?
• 53:31
  Speaker 9: Nick? How you doing good?
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: How you doing?
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 53:34
  Speaker 9: Hanging in there? Hanging in there? So I we're talking
• 53:40
  Speaker 9: about the about the defense and the defenses that when
• 53:45
  Speaker 9: Gwyn had that when he was there, they turned the
• 53:49
  Speaker 9: ball over and I think we missed that last year.
• 53:52
  Speaker 9: And I think this defense doesn't have to be a
• 53:56
  Speaker 9: top fifteen, top ten defense, but they need to get
• 53:59
  Speaker 9: to turn because that's going to help the offense because
• 54:02
  Speaker 9: now it's not different going thirty five yards versus going
• 54:06
  Speaker 9: seventy five eighty yards, if you know what I mean.
• 54:10
  Speaker 9: I like the players they got. I think they drafted
• 54:14
  Speaker 9: a certain type of player. These guys are all good tacklers.
• 54:17
  Speaker 9: They're all the defensive guys all good tacklers, and they're
• 54:20
  Speaker 9: they're violent. They tack you, they tack you. I think
• 54:24
  Speaker 9: I was listening to I think it was Mixed Shots
• 54:27
  Speaker 9: yesterday when and Nate was on, and Nate Newton said, yeah,
• 54:31
  Speaker 9: he saw the rookies and none of those guys had
• 54:33
  Speaker 9: beer bellies, and he's talking about what kind of shape
• 54:37
  Speaker 9: these guys are in. Now he's got a certain player.
• 54:40
  Speaker 9: They don't miss tackles, they're violent, they're aggressive, and they
• 54:43
  Speaker 9: love football. And lastly, I got a wide receiver. I
• 54:48
  Speaker 9: really like Anthony Smith. I think he's going to make
• 54:51
  Speaker 9: the team. And I think Jonathan Mingos. They are probably
• 54:55
  Speaker 9: numbered and I want to keep for a receiver. So
• 55:00
  Speaker 9: that's all I got today, physical therapy now and have
• 55:03
  Speaker 9: a great Cowboys.
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: All right, thanks for the for the call, Good luck
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: with the PT. You know you mentioned the guys coming
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: in in good shape. I mean that's that's I think
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: that's the most players now and then that's kind of
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: the way it goes. It's funny that Nate would say
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: that about didn't see the beer bellies. I mean, Cowboys
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: would definitely take one if it meant they could have
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: a have a you know, pro Bowl guard, six time
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: Pro bowler that could likely be in the Hall of
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: Fame and uh and Nate Newton. But you know it,
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: it's been it's been a good you know, a good
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: turnaround with with with the with the the additions that
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: they they've thrown in on defense, I like, you know,
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: I like, I agree with that about being good tacklers.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: What I've said this before, and forgive me if I
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: said this maybe last week, but I just I like
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: the fact that you've got multiple type players, these tweeers,
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: because I really think that is the key. There's two
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: things that you have to have to be to play
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: this type of scheme. You can't just be multiple and
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: just say that's what we're gonna do. You have to
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: learn everything, so you have to be smart, and I
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: think they they've added some really smart players, especially on defense,
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: and then I think that there are also guys that
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: can play multiple positions. So the fact that we didn't
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: we didn't even know where Barham was going to play
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: and we still may not, you know, or but when
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: he was drafted, you were like what is he? You know,
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: and we had our social media team putting out a
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: graphic going, well, what is this guy? Is he a linebacker?
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: Are we saying d N? Are we saying edge? What
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: are we saying here? What about Overton? What are we saying?
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: How about d L? About just D line? I don't know.
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, because he's going to play defensive end, but
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: it's a defensive end in the three four, which is
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: really more of a defensive tackle. He played edge on Alabama,
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: but he's going to slide inside and play play tackle,
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: and so you know, he's a defensive lineman. And you know,
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: I think Barham is a linebacker and Caleb Downs in safety,
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: but he's gonna be playing some corner, so he's a dB.
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: But I think what they are football players I mean,
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: I think that that's what it is. They drafted football
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: players and they're going to figure out kind of where
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: they go. Sebastian Savannah, Georgia, what's up.
• 57:25
  Speaker 8: Martin Stair?
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: How do you do good? How are you?
• 57:27
  Speaker 16: I'm doing just fine.
• 57:28
  Speaker 14: I'll get right to it because I know how heart
• 57:30
  Speaker 14: of this to get in here. I feel like personally,
• 57:33
  Speaker 14: the hype and just the expectations for Kalob right now
• 57:37
  Speaker 14: are a little bit too high because the rookie saty.
• 57:40
  Speaker 14: I think I will feel different if he was a
• 57:41
  Speaker 14: defensive like the number one defensive end coming in, because
• 57:44
  Speaker 14: then he would have a direct impact on the quarterback
• 57:46
  Speaker 14: all the time. But what I called to talk about
• 57:48
  Speaker 14: is some of the veterans. I'm looking at this roster
• 57:50
  Speaker 14: and if Cowboys looking some of our hey baby, some
• 57:54
  Speaker 14: of our veterans are going to be on the bubble
• 57:58
  Speaker 14: this year. So who are some veterans interud run the bubble?
• 58:00
  Speaker 14: My first two, well, the one that I have most
• 58:02
  Speaker 14: right now is Cabanti Turpin because with your emergency, Florina
• 58:05
  Speaker 14: and last year Kamathi Turpin didn't really bring too much
• 58:09
  Speaker 14: to the team that can't be replaced. And I know
• 58:10
  Speaker 14: for a fact, they say three point four if they
• 58:12
  Speaker 14: caught him JUNI first, first, who a vetteran who have
• 58:16
  Speaker 14: to look out during this training game?
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: All right, thank you. I don't put Turpin in that
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: in that group. I you know, Flinoy can come in
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: and do whatever he's going to do, and I think
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: that that's not going to really change what Turpin does.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: I think Turpin is your fourth receiver. And I think
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: if two guys knock on Wood got hurt in a
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: in a in a game or in a you know,
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: the week leading up to the game, I still think
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: he's going to be your fourth receiver. I mean, I
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: think he's just got a role. That is what it is.
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: And so let's not forget what he doesn't as a
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: as a return and specialists. How dynamic could Turpin be?
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: Turpin had fifty five punt return yards last year. He
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: had eighteen hundred kickoff return yards or whatever it was,
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: set the Cowboys record for most yards in a season
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: by any player, just all all purpose yards, but fifty
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: five punt return yards. I mean, Cowboys couldn't get off
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: the field. They you know, they couldn't force punts, and
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: when they did it wasn't enough field for the punter
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: to actually get it out there where Turpin could could
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: do something with. So you get a defense that can
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: get some stops. I mean, let's let's let's kick off
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: to start the game, you know, defer kickoff. How about
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: a three and out? How about something like that? Then
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: the punter standing around his five yard line and he
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: punts it, there's turping way back there. Good luck. Just
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: kick it deep, you know, try to get some field
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: position and let Turpin in the open field. That just
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: didn't happen enough. I think if the defense can get better,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: I think Turpen's better. That's not a guy on my
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: list as far as that goes, So I'm not answering
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: your question. I guess a veteran player that needs to
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: kind of watch out well, I mean easy one there
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: would be Schoonmaker, right, I mean, this is going into
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: his fourth year. He's got Brevin span Ford there. You know,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: Trigg is not every fan base all excited. I mean
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: that that would be one that you know, you got
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: to be careful of that hooker. You know, obviously with
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: the drafts in there that I can't really think of
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: too many others that are you know that that would
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: a veteran player that you'd have to worry about. I mean,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: there'll be some, and there'll be some, you know, four
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: five six year guys, you know. I mean, I don't
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: know where Kaitlin Carson falls under that this is his
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: third year, hadn't played a whole lot. But I mean
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: there's guys that have been around a little bit that
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: their spot. I'm so starting guaranteed at this point. All right,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: let's go Chris in San Angelo.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 16: Mister Nick, how you doing today, sir?
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: I'm doing good. How are you doing?
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 16: I'm doing pretty good. I'm on the phone with use
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 16: of the day starting out really well.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: Appreciate you, bet you, Betty.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: As far as.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 16: Mine, I was gonna go defense. Dylan and Eric really
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 16: wiped me out with their thoughts and what I was
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 16: gonna say. But I will add to what Dylan said
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 16: about the defense. I mean, I'm thinking, just being more
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 16: opportunistic with some turnovers and a lot more big stops
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 16: is gonna go really gonna go quickly into turning this
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 16: defense around in a big way. So I'll do I'll
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 16: say that. But what I was gonna say is, uh,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 16: you know you said, let's quit, you know, hopping up
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 16: Parker and down so much. So I guess that's just
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 16: the off season. I guess that's pretty much just what
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 16: I'm gonna do. I listened to just listening to coach
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 16: Parker and watching him. I just get this feeling that
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 16: this guy, he's not gonna fail as a defensive coordinator.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 16: I just I mean, I just feel that. And what
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 16: I was going to ask you is, you know they're
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 16: still looking for this red dot or just the you know,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 16: the setting up the defense on the field. My first
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 16: thought was, well, you drafted that guy first with downs.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 16: I mean, he apparently he already knows the playbook top
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 16: to bottom, and he's smart and all that. But do
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 16: you think maybe that would be putting too much on
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 16: his shoulders to let him do that. You think it
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 16: might be a better idea just to let him kind
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 16: of float around and do his thing. Yeah, I wonder
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 16: what you talk about that one.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think there's a reason. Thanks Chris
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: for the call. I think there's a reason most linebackers
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: or you know, make the calls mainly because of where
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: they are located on the field. I mean, that's that's
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: a lot of it. Right. I mean, you're you're you're
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: able to go in there and hit the defensive tackle,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: slide him just a little bit this way, or say
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: something to the edge, or turn around and say something
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: to the safety court, you know, something like that, as
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: opposed to the safety it's making calls and adjustments on
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: the fly watch for this. Well, he can't. He can't
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: tell the defensive tackle that you know. And and let's
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: be honest, we've been if you've been down on the
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: field before. I mean, there's been times where I've stood
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: next to somebody and couldn't say anything. You couldn't even
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: hear what they're saying. Happened sometimes in those open press
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  Speaker 4: boxes like that too, So uh, you know, it's hand
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  Speaker 4: signals and stuff. But I think for the most part
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  Speaker 4: it's kind of proximity. I think he can handle it downs.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't know if if the smart thing would
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  Speaker 4: probably just to have your middle linebacker do it. And
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  Speaker 4: and you know, there'll be some competition to see who's who.
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  Speaker 4: You know, who's gonna who's gonna pick it up and
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  Speaker 4: and and it's a race. Now, it's not just it's
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  Speaker 4: not just let's see what happens to training camp. Let's
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  Speaker 4: see what happens. Now, Let's see who learns this defense, uh,
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  Speaker 4: the quickest, who understands who has a good grasp of
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  Speaker 4: what everyone's position is. And now that's something that can
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: happen right now. Let me let me go back before
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  Speaker 4: we end this show. Let me let me say one
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  Speaker 4: more thing about the Christian Parker and Caleb Downs and
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  Speaker 4: the hype training and all that. I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: get it twisted. I'm not saying not to be hyped
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  Speaker 4: over him. I'm not saying that not to be excited,
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  Speaker 4: but let's just you know, it is what it is.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's he's still he's still new to this,
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  Speaker 4: he hasn't done it before. I mean, if you have kids,
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  Speaker 4: like like I do, and a lot of you guys
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  Speaker 4: do have kids, treat it. Treat it like that, like
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  Speaker 4: like you're excited for what they're doing in their development.
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  Speaker 4: You know they're not perfect, you know they're gonna make mistakes,
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  Speaker 4: but call it for what it is, and let's not
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  Speaker 4: what happens is is this overhype. Then the first game
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  Speaker 4: of the season, they give up, you know, three touchdowns
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  Speaker 4: in the first quarter, and it's like, oh, this guy,
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  Speaker 4: boy genius. Huh, you know, and it's unfair to him.
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  Speaker 4: He needs to develop, he needs to to to to
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  Speaker 4: learn on the flight, just like everybody saying with Caleb Downs,
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  Speaker 4: he's probably gonna give up a big play. That doesn't
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  Speaker 4: mean he's not gonna be a Pro Bowl type player,
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  Speaker 4: even as a rookie, but it's going to happen. And
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  Speaker 4: I think that's what happens. We're all so quick to
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  Speaker 4: just judge people, and we're judging these guys before they've
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  Speaker 4: done anything. Do I think Caleb Downs is gonna be
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  Speaker 4: great safety? I do this year. I think he's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be great. I think Christian Parker is gonna be really
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: really good for this defense, and I think he's I
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  Speaker 4: think he's gonna be an outstanding coach. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 4: he's ready to go take another job. It's kind of
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  Speaker 4: funny though we've kind of gotten so far ahead of now.
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  Speaker 4: One of the callers was worried about him taking a job. Hey,
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  Speaker 4: if that means the Cowboys have done some great things
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  Speaker 4: and some of these coaches are up for other jobs,
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  Speaker 4: it usually means that the team has had a lot
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  Speaker 4: of success, and so that's a trade off. I think
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  Speaker 4: you're willing to have all Right, guys, thanks for calling
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  Speaker 4: in for the show today. Apologize it was not our
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  Speaker 4: best show. I put a lot of that on me.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't start out well, had some hiccups there. I'll take
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  Speaker 4: responsibility for that. We'll get better. It was an offseason show.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get better as we continue to go. So come
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  Speaker 4: back with us next Wednesday. We'll do it again next
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  Speaker 4: Wednesday on Cowboys storyline for Chris Beam, I'm Nick Eaman.
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  Speaker 4: We'll see then.
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