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Best of Ian Furness 10/19 · The Ian Furness Show

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Speaker 1: Your home for the 12th man in the NFL proudly
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Speaker 1: presents Hardcore Football with Hugh Miller.
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Speaker 1: Now here's Hugh with Ian Furness on Sports Radio 93.3
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Speaker 1: KJR FM.
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Speaker 3: Hardcore Football. We wait till Monday. That way we can
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Speaker 3: all take a deep breath. Right, Hugh? Deep breath after Friday.
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Speaker 3: After Thursday night.
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Speaker 2: Deep breath.
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Speaker 3: Watch how everything else plays out of the weekend. I
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Speaker 3: still haven't got over the damn 49er game.
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Speaker 2: And you know the worst thing is? It's like you're
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Speaker 2: eating me up, man.
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Speaker 3: Well, those two things happened like five days apart. That's
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Speaker 3: the worst part, right? God, just getting kicked in the
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Speaker 3: face twice in the course of less than a week's time?
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Speaker 3: That's no fun, Hugh.
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Speaker 2: Well, in the 49er thing, you've got a quarterback in
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Speaker 2: Brock Purdy that should have been having to field questions
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Speaker 2: like what is your mike mcdonald problem yes yes you
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Speaker 2: know because they scored 11 points and and i would
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Speaker 2: like to know if they even could have scored 11
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Speaker 2: had they not been kind of free to exhale because
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Speaker 2: of all the turnovers you know the 18 11 and
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Speaker 2: zero yard uh drives by the 49ers to put touchdowns
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Speaker 2: on the board. So at any rate, I know that's
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Speaker 2: long in the mirror, but just me being candid, I
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Speaker 2: know it's, it's still chewing at me, man. I tell you.
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Speaker 2: So this, this, this, uh, this sports fan thing can
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Speaker 2: be rough.
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Speaker 3: And you know, Hugh, I mean, I think you're speaking
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Speaker 3: for a lot of fans. Like a lot of fans
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Speaker 3: are thinking the same thing. I want to start, we're
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Speaker 3: going to go a little bigger picture today, a little
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Speaker 3: broader scope. Uh, and I'll let kind of, you will
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Speaker 3: kind of dictate where we take this, but I do
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Speaker 3: want to start with this on, this is Friday, uh,
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Speaker 3: Friday morning, late morning on Friday, normally, uh, after a game.
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Speaker 3: It's a Monday at 3 that Mike McDonald speaks to
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Speaker 3: those of us in the non-flagship radio station world, the
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Speaker 3: rest of the media. Since I didn't have a show
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Speaker 3: at 10 o'clock in the morning, I actually got to
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Speaker 3: jump on along with Greg Bell and others. We've got
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Speaker 3: about a minute 21, and I want to play this
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Speaker 3: with Mike McDonald and just get your reaction, and we'll
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Speaker 3: kind of take it from there. But here's Mike McDonald
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Speaker 3: Friday morning, Hugh. Mike, on the last interception, what did
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Speaker 3: you see looking back on it, and how would you
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Speaker 3: just describe your confidence level right now and Sam and
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Speaker 3: us also his confidence level because it feels like that's
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Speaker 3: pretty important for that position.
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Speaker 4: Yeah I think I think it's a similar answer to
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Speaker 4: what I was um what I told Brian was um
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Speaker 4: I think there's things that we can all do to
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Speaker 4: help Sam play better football and uh we trust Sam
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Speaker 4: we believe in him and we feel like we feel
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Speaker 4: like he's definitely part of a solution you know in
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Speaker 4: terms of us playing better football on offense and at
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Speaker 4: quarterback Seahawks style offense that uh we all envisioned.
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Speaker 2: When hi mike what you say sam's uh best chance
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Speaker 2: for the solution he's you believe he's part of solution
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Speaker 2: what about sam's game makes him the solution what are
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Speaker 2: the traits that you're now trying to draw an attack
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Speaker 2: that you're not getting right now.
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Speaker 4: Well i mean you guys have been here over the
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Speaker 4: last two years we just won a world championship with
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Speaker 4: them um.
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Speaker 5: We believe in the guy. We see him every day.
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Speaker 5: We see what he does.
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Speaker 3: We see the plays he's been able to make.
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Speaker 2: We see the actual talent. All those things.
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Speaker 4: That's where my mind is.
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Speaker 2: All right, Hugh. Thoughts on all that? Well, in watching
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Speaker 2: the tape, and we'll get to some of the positives
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Speaker 2: and what have you, but I know that everybody's just
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Speaker 2: we're honing in on this turnover, this interception problem and
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Speaker 2: what Sam Darnold did. I mean, he went 58 and
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Speaker 2: a half minutes without turning the ball over and then
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Speaker 2: with a minute and 30 to go. And then in overtime,
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Speaker 2: he had the two interceptions. And, and so you're sitting
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Speaker 2: there saying, Hey, what is the impulse? What's driving it?
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Speaker 2: And I, I, I think there's a relatable experience that
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Speaker 2: we've all had that at least Like a Venn diagram,
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Speaker 2: there's some similarities. Obviously, it doesn't need to be stated
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Speaker 2: that there's a lot of differences, but I'll just speak
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Speaker 2: for me. We've all been going down a boulevard, let's
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Speaker 2: say at a 50-mile-an-hour boulevard. We're humming pretty good, and
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Speaker 2: the light turns yellow. And you're right in that spot
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Speaker 2: of like, okay, do I go for it or do
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Speaker 2: I stop? And for me, you know, I'd gone through
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Speaker 2: my whole life and never got a ticket for running
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Speaker 2: a red light. Now, I'd had a few speeding tickets.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to paint myself as a saint, but
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Speaker 2: I'd never had a red light ticket. And then these
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Speaker 2: cameras come in, the camera variety, and I end up
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Speaker 2: getting a ticket. And then, you know, kind of consider
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Speaker 2: now it's going to impact insurance. I realize my best
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Speaker 2: course is to take a four-hour online course to get
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Speaker 2: rid of the ticket. We'll turn around about 18 months later.
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Speaker 2: I did it again and I had to do it
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Speaker 2: four hours again. Now I've got, you know, now I
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Speaker 2: got them off my record, but now it's got me
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Speaker 2: freaked out. Like now, now light turns yellow and I
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Speaker 2: just slam on the break. Even if, you know, I
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Speaker 2: got plenty of time.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 2: And so a quarterback is constantly like every pass play
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Speaker 2: you're dealing with that. The light just turned yellow. Hey,
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Speaker 2: do I go, do I, am I aggressive? Like there's
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Speaker 2: reason for some caution. Or like, no, no, that yellow
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Speaker 2: light has got to, it's really a yellow that should
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Speaker 2: be interpreted as a red. And you're having this microprocessing
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Speaker 2: in fractions of a second all the time. And so
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Speaker 2: if you go back to Darnold on the first interception,
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Speaker 2: on the third down there, it's a very well-designed play
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Speaker 2: where they motion cup across. He's the primary guy. And
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Speaker 2: by the way, Helani, you know, I want to say
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Speaker 2: God bless him. I'm not sure if I would really
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Speaker 2: be sincere if I said that. You know, he's got
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Speaker 2: to cut the defensive end. And, you know, he's very
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Speaker 2: poor technique. He comes to balance, comes to a stop
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Speaker 2: and then lunges completely whiffs. And so that causes Darnold
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Speaker 2: to come off of the primary. So the cup was
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Speaker 2: wide open now. I could make an argument that even
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Speaker 2: with the whiff of a pass block on the edge
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Speaker 2: and the guy's right in front, he just lobbed it
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Speaker 2: over his head. But then that introduces new problems for
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Speaker 2: a quarterback. Again, like the light just turned yellow and
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Speaker 2: you're going 50 miles an hour. If I lob it
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Speaker 2: and I misread it, well, that's going to be an
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Speaker 2: easy pick six. So he comes off of that, and
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Speaker 2: then right there, there is a split second. like, like
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Speaker 2: fractions of a fraction of a second where he has
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Speaker 2: to say, Hey, Hey, do I run this thing or
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Speaker 2: do I stop? And he, he chose to run it
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Speaker 2: and he threw it out there. Horton had a lousy route.
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Speaker 2: He didn't as, as, uh, uh, as herb street indicated,
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Speaker 2: he didn't really stick the route and he allowed the
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Speaker 2: guy to come underneath him. But even at that, if
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Speaker 2: you're evaluating from the end zone copy with the quarterback,
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Speaker 2: you got to just say, Hey, that's, that's, that's a
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Speaker 2: red light, put on the brakes and come to a stop.
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Speaker 5: And.
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Speaker 2: And so you're trusting the quarterback that these decisions are made.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, I could see why you want to
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Speaker 2: run through the intersection. All I can say this, if
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Speaker 2: your front wheels aren't over, and this is what I learned,
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Speaker 2: if your front wheels aren't over the crosswalk, then you
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Speaker 2: just bought yourself four hours of freaking time on an
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Speaker 2: internet course. And... that's, you know, that's costly. Well, you
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Speaker 2: just bought the Seattle Seahawks and interception, and that's really
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Speaker 2: costly to the entire football team and everybody rooting for it. Right.
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Speaker 2: And so, so the costs are somewhat related that way. And, and,
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Speaker 2: and you just got to trust a guy like, dude,
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Speaker 2: we put the ball in your hands. Now the second interception,
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Speaker 2: it's third and seven, seven, 17 to go in overtime.
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Speaker 2: And the ball's on the right hash. snapped it to
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Speaker 2: 28 yard line he's trying to hit shaheed on what's
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Speaker 2: called a whole shot now a lot of our listeners
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Speaker 2: um have heard that term and a lot of our
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Speaker 2: listeners know what that means but for those who don't
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Speaker 2: let's get on the same page a whole shot is
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Speaker 2: the following and just check mark all of these things
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Speaker 2: have to be present to call it a whole shot
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Speaker 2: has to be a go route it has to be
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Speaker 2: it has to be the widest receiver. Is there, could
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Speaker 2: there possibly, I mean, you could, if you had a,
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Speaker 2: a stacked formation, it could be the inside guy, but
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Speaker 2: basically we're talking about the outside receiver on a go route.
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Speaker 2: Got me.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 2: And it's gotta be against what's called a cloud coverage
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Speaker 2: where the corner has flat responsibility and the safety has
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Speaker 2: responsibility over the top of that.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 2: Got me. Yep. So that's a zone. So, so those, those, those,
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Speaker 2: or those attributes are present in a hole shot. And
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Speaker 2: from a quarterback standpoint, you've got to get the ball up.
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Speaker 2: You have to drive the ball with enough velocity to
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Speaker 2: beat the safety because he's moving laterally. But you have
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Speaker 2: to have enough touch to throw it over the corner,
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Speaker 2: who is what's called sinking. He's going to redirect at
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Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage. These are football terms. The cloud
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Speaker 2: corner is going to sink, which means continue to get depth,
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Speaker 2: and he's going to be looking inside for somebody in
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Speaker 2: the flat. But depending on how the route combination develops
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Speaker 2: in front of him, he's going to keep sinking. and, and,
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Speaker 2: and which is again, uh, uh, getting depth. So the,
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Speaker 2: the net net, the final, I would say for Sam
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Speaker 2: Darnold to have chosen to throw the whole shot there
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Speaker 2: when the defense was playing as well as it could
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Speaker 2: you take, you know, if you punt, there's still seven
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Speaker 2: minutes to go. you probably get a three and out
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Speaker 2: and you get a chance to re-rack it on offense
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Speaker 2: and go down, kick a game-winning field.
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Speaker 5: Goal, right?
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Speaker 2: Because that's all it would take, correct?
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Speaker 5: Yep.
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Speaker 2: So all of this has to be in Sam Darnold's calculus.
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Speaker 2: It has to be. The situation in the game has
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Speaker 2: to be part of all this. Right. And so for
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Speaker 2: him to, getting back to the light, for him to
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Speaker 2: take that yellow light and think it's more of a
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Speaker 2: green yellow light as opposed to a red yellow light,
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Speaker 2: he went green light on that yellow light. And in
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Speaker 2: looking at it, I would just say he's either would
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Speaker 2: have had to get it up. He went three steps
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Speaker 2: in a hitch from shotgun, which is equivalent of five
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Speaker 2: steps and a hitch from under center. That's too late.
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Speaker 2: So he would have had to have such a, that
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Speaker 2: ball would have had to have been completed at about
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Speaker 2: the 41 or 42 yard line. So you're talking 14
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Speaker 2: yards from the line of scrimmage that he would have
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Speaker 2: had to get that ball up and down so damn
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Speaker 2: fast that If I look at it, and I've looked
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Speaker 2: at it 50 times, is there a chance to get
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Speaker 2: that hole shot? My answer is yes. If you have
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Speaker 2: the anticipation of Dan Fouts, and I'm not a big
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Speaker 2: Fouts fan. I thought he had this choppy, like when
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Speaker 2: I was a kid, I hated Dan Fouts. A, because
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Speaker 2: he's so damn good, but he's just clunky. There's nothing smooth.
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Speaker 2: He's like the anti-Joe Montana. So I don't like Dan Fouts,
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Speaker 2: but he's the best anticipatory quarterback I've ever seen in
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Speaker 2: my life. So he would have had to have Dan
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Speaker 2: Foutsian anticipation with John Elway velocity. Like you are narrowing
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Speaker 2: that window so damn tight. And now the other thing,
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Speaker 2: the other option, if he thought the safety was flat enough,
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Speaker 2: he could have gone up and over the top deep
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Speaker 2: down the sideline and forced the safety who he thought
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Speaker 2: was going flat to turn and run and make a
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Speaker 2: play over his head. So he could have chose to
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Speaker 2: throw it deep down the field. So he got caught
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Speaker 2: in like there's the two completions would have been if
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Speaker 2: he got it is either really fast on the hole
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Speaker 2: shot in front of the safety or really high and
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Speaker 2: deep over the top going to a speedster in Shahid
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Speaker 2: deep down the field. He did neither. He did like
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Speaker 2: dead in the middle, which was an easy– as I said,
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Speaker 2: if the DB wanted to clown him, he could have
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Speaker 2: raised his hand as a fair catch, right, before he
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Speaker 2: caught the ball. And so Jaquan McMillan is the guy
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Speaker 2: I'm referencing. And so– and so getting back to, okay,
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Speaker 2: if you're Mike McDonald and you're watching this tape and
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Speaker 2: you just go, look, I get it. Every time you
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Speaker 2: snap the ball, it's like going 55 miles an hour
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Speaker 2: down a Boulevard and the light turns yellow. And you've
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Speaker 2: got to make that decision over and over and over again.
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Speaker 2: But what I don't want to do is sit in
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Speaker 2: for a freaking class for four hours and, and, and
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Speaker 2: try and make up that mistake, which is what happens
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Speaker 2: when you get the interception. Um, so, uh, at any event,
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Speaker 2: like he's, he's got a, what's the Dick bear drop.
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Speaker 2: We he's got to get rid of that right now.
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Speaker 2: It feels Ian, like this feels like a fork in
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Speaker 2: the road game to me. This feels like, like the
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Speaker 2: game coming up or last Thursday, this, this coming up
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Speaker 2: this Sunday, this Sunday night. Yes. It feels like a
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Speaker 2: fork in the road game. Uh, you know, possibly for Darnold, uh,
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Speaker 2: you know, maybe for the 2026 Seahawks could, because I,
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Speaker 2: I didn't just be, I closed my eyes in a case.
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Speaker 2: What does a win mean for Seattle? Okay. Obviously you're
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Speaker 2: four and three. Now you're feeling good. You got your
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Speaker 2: mojo back. Darnold, you know, he starts, uh, uh, you know,
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Speaker 2: making good decisions when the light turns yellow and, and then, okay,
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Speaker 2: now we're off and kicking and maybe the, the, 49ers
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Speaker 2: boot one or is there want to do they get
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Speaker 2: guys hurt and maybe if you catch them you know
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Speaker 2: obviously have a chance to play them down there and
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Speaker 2: as much as you dominated them uh in Santa Clara
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Speaker 2: in week 18 last year you feel like okay we
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Speaker 2: can beat them down there we just you know need
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Speaker 2: a little help like like you can you can start
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Speaker 2: to see a nice path for 2026 if you beat
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs yeah you you lose to the Chiefs and
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Speaker 2: and Darnold struggles now all of a sudden the juju
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Speaker 2: in the stadium I wouldn't be shocked if he starts
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Speaker 2: getting booed if people start saying Drew Locke. It's just
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Speaker 2: a mess. So it just feels like more than a
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Speaker 2: game to me.
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Speaker 5: I agree.
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Speaker 3: I'm just looking at... I'm going to wrap up this
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Speaker 3: real fast because I'm looking at this again. I haven't
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Speaker 3: watched it 50 times, probably 20 times, but as I'm
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Speaker 3: doing this and I keep freezing it and I'm watching
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Speaker 3: it and you see McMillan come over and I was
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Speaker 3: struck by this even on Thursday when it happened live.
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Speaker 3: This was a time that you really can't blame the
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Speaker 3: offensive line. And you kind of answered my question because
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Speaker 3: what I wanted to ask you was, Shahid, if he
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Speaker 3: just holds the ball for a half a second longer,
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Speaker 3: ain't no way McMillan's staying with Shahid down the sideline, right?
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Speaker 2: No, because of his angle. He would have been up
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Speaker 2: and over the top.
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Speaker 3: Exactly, right? Like the first one, he's under duress. This one,
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Speaker 3: he had a pocket. He had a pocket, but the actual— Now,
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Speaker 3: maybe he's gun-shy, Hugh. You've been in that pocket. I've
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Speaker 3: never stood in a pocket like that. You have. Maybe
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Speaker 3: there's some PTSD going on right there, right? Even if
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Speaker 3: he has a pocket, he probably thinks he doesn't have
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Speaker 3: a pocket.
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Speaker 5: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. There's a lot of quarterback analysts out there,
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Speaker 2: and there's a lot of good ones. I think— oh, who's
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Speaker 2: the guy for— ESPN, former Lions. Oh, Orlovsky. Orlovsky. I
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Speaker 2: think he does a really good job. There's a lot
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Speaker 2: of good analysts out there. And I'm not saying this
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Speaker 2: happened with Orlovsky. I don't know. But there's a lot
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Speaker 2: of quarterbacks who will sit there and they'll try and
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Speaker 2: interpret what a guy is feeling or thinking, even emotionally.
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Speaker 1: Right, right.
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Speaker 2: And I'm like, wait a minute. I'm not in his head.
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Speaker 2: I don't know his personality. Um, there's some quarterbacks are like,
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Speaker 2: you know, F it, you know, Dan Marino, he's just,
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Speaker 2: he LTFF, you know, let the F or fly. Like,
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Speaker 2: like he, you know, he don't care. You can't, it,
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Speaker 2: I don't know what you'd have to do to, um,
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Speaker 2: shake that, that Pittsburgh boy up, um, you know, middle-class, uh,
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Speaker 2: you know, uh, middle, lower middle-class Italian fricking, like he
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Speaker 2: was a fricking renegade. He was a dog, right? Like
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Speaker 2: you couldn't, you couldn't get in his head. So, uh,
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Speaker 2: but there's other guys that are, you know, more sensitive
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Speaker 2: and what have you. And it's obviously a factor. Well,
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Speaker 2: that's what I'm asking you. You as the quarterback, you've
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Speaker 2: been in that position. But I can only speak to myself.
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Speaker 3: I'm not asking, I'm asking you what you would think.
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Speaker 3: Because you're our quarterback. So you tell me. I mean,
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Speaker 3: is there a chance he's, if it was you, would
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Speaker 3: you be thinking, if it was you, with that offensive line, God,
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Speaker 3: we're waiting for Anthony Bradford to come back. I just
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Speaker 3: said that out loud. But like with that offensive line,
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Speaker 3: with no running game whatsoever, Would you be gun-shy? Would
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Speaker 3: you be like, I probably have less time to get
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Speaker 3: rid of this ball than I should?
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Speaker 2: Would that be going through your mind? Yeah, no, I
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Speaker 2: started for the Patriots. They had been 1-15 the year before.
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Speaker 2: It's the third, the worst net points in the history
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Speaker 2: of the NFL, and it's the worst since that time.
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Speaker 2: There hasn't been any... a team as bad as the
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Speaker 2: 1990 Patriots. And I joined them voluntarily. I had nine
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Speaker 2: contract offers, but I, but that was my best chance
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Speaker 2: to start. So I went there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: You, you play behind a line like that, you know,
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Speaker 2: on the whiteboard in the meeting, they say, okay, here's
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Speaker 2: your one, here's your two, here's your three. And you're like, Oh,
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Speaker 2: that's all well and good, but I might get a
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Speaker 2: chance to get to my number two. I better pick
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Speaker 2: out my number one.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 2: By the time I put my back foot in the ground. Right.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 2: And so he got hit 17 times. Nick's got hit four.
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Speaker 2: He's the fifth most pressured quarterback in the NFL. When
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Speaker 2: they went on that run last year where the running
18:36
Speaker 2: game was effective, they averaged 4.98 yards per run on
18:42
Speaker 2: first and 10. Mm-hmm. This year, they're at 2.76. That
18:48
Speaker 2: only sounds like a little over two yards, but that
18:51
Speaker 2: is everything. You know that. That's the difference between being
18:53
Speaker 2: first in the league and last in the league. So
18:57
Speaker 2: when they run the ball, they're in second and long.
19:00
Speaker 2: And by the way, second and one to six, their
19:03
Speaker 2: success rate on second and medium last year in that
19:06
Speaker 2: run was 73%. Now it's under 53%. So all the numbers,
19:11
Speaker 2: I can keep directing you to these numbers because That
19:14
Speaker 2: are going to tell you what you already know, which
19:16
Speaker 2: is a running game is a mess.
19:18
Speaker 3: Okay, hold it right there because I want to get
19:20
Speaker 3: to a break. That's what I want to get to next.
19:21
Speaker 3: I think that's because it's going to be magnified with
19:25
Speaker 3: Ken Walker here this weekend. We all know that, the
19:27
Speaker 3: running game. But I want to come back because you've
19:30
Speaker 3: watched this tape and the simplistic world that I live in,
19:34
Speaker 3: that most fans live in. are saying, well, they can't
19:36
Speaker 3: run the ball because Emmanuel Wilson is slow, Helani's just
19:40
Speaker 3: a guy, and Velas Jones is a former wide receiver,
19:44
Speaker 3: and then the offensive line's bad. Because if you can't
19:47
Speaker 3: run the ball, then that makes that passing. game that
19:50
Speaker 3: much more difficult, I assume, but I want to get
19:52
Speaker 3: your thoughts. I want to get Hugh Millen's thoughts on
19:55
Speaker 3: the running game and the offensive line. Cause I, there
19:57
Speaker 3: was more to the McDonald's stuff that we asked him.
19:59
Speaker 3: I kind of asked him about the offensive line. He
20:01
Speaker 3: brought how it's cumulative. It's all tied in together, which
20:03
Speaker 3: we all get, but I want to get your thoughts
20:05
Speaker 3: and what your eyes see and help, help, help all
20:07
Speaker 3: of us as fans, um, What's the real issue with
20:10
Speaker 3: the running game?
20:11
Speaker 2: Is it personnel? Is it scheme? Is it the line?
20:15
Speaker 3: I'm sure you're going to tell me some sort of
20:18
Speaker 3: combination thereof, but can we do that? Because I think
20:20
Speaker 3: that goes back to what Sam's struggles are as well.
20:21
Speaker 3: Let's do that next, all right?
20:23
Speaker 2: Rock and roll.
20:23
Speaker 3: That's Hugh Mill, and Hardcore Football continues next.
20:41
Speaker 4: Could the offensive line, can they step their game up?
20:45
Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely.
20:47
Speaker 4: But just to point it on the offensive line, I think, again,
20:51
Speaker 4: same thing with the takeaways with Sam. Does Sam bear
20:53
Speaker 4: responsibility for taking care of the football? Do our runners
20:56
Speaker 4: take care of responsibility for.
20:57
Speaker 2: Fun with them all?
20:58
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
20:58
Speaker 4: But it's a team game, and how we set our
21:03
Speaker 4: game plans up and how we execute falls on all
21:07
Speaker 4: of our shoulders. So that's how we choose to look
21:10
Speaker 4: through it.
21:11
Speaker 2: Mike McDonald Friday. All right, Hugh Millen.
21:15
Speaker 3: The Seahawks' running game is not good. You mentioned last year.
21:20
Speaker 3: They had this little stretch last year. They had 198
21:23
Speaker 3: yards against Arizona November 9th, and then it kind of
21:26
Speaker 3: started to tail off, and they reached a low on
21:28
Speaker 3: December 14th against Indianapolis, 49 yards. After that, 171, 163,
21:33
Speaker 3: and 180 to wrap up the final three games of
21:37
Speaker 3: the regular season. Then we know what they did in
21:39
Speaker 3: the playoffs as well. But this year, there's no Ken Walker.
21:44
Speaker 3: Your right guard has been out for most of the season.
21:46
Speaker 3: In Anthony Bradford, you've been doing a rotation there with
21:49
Speaker 3: Stevens and Haynes. And you've got no first-round draft pick,
21:55
Speaker 3: Jadarian Price. He's played little to no football at all
21:58
Speaker 3: for this team. When he has, he's put the ball
22:00
Speaker 3: on the turf. But even in training camp, you were here,
22:02
Speaker 3: you watched it. He didn't even participate half the time
22:04
Speaker 3: in training camp. So it's a lot of different things,
22:08
Speaker 3: but I know this. It feels to me like in
22:10
Speaker 3: the NFL, you better be able to have a balanced,
22:13
Speaker 3: at least some sort of balanced offense. In college, you
22:16
Speaker 3: can maybe get away with Lavelle Edwards' old BYU offense
22:19
Speaker 3: and throw in the ball or Mike Leach in the
22:20
Speaker 3: air raid. But even in the air raid, we saw
22:22
Speaker 3: if it snows or it's raining, that's not very effective.
22:25
Speaker 3: You better have a run game, right? But what are
22:28
Speaker 3: you seeing? Offensive line. and running game, and I'll let
22:32
Speaker 3: you kind of take it and kind of twist it
22:34
Speaker 3: in and kind of mold it for us because I
22:37
Speaker 3: know that it's not always related play-action with a lack
22:40
Speaker 3: of running game and all that and the deception, but
22:42
Speaker 3: if you don't respect the run, and nobody would respect
22:45
Speaker 3: the run for Seattle right now, I would think that
22:47
Speaker 3: puts a lot of pressure on your passing game.
22:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, it puts a lot of pressure. Go back to
22:50
Speaker 2: last year, Darnold under center. These are going to be
22:53
Speaker 2: almost entirely play-action. You know, his yards per attempt, you know,
22:59
Speaker 2: 10.7 last year, that was second in the NFL this year,
23:02
Speaker 2: it's off two and a half yards down to 8.2. He,
23:05
Speaker 2: he threw a touchdown every nine throws last year from
23:11
Speaker 2: under center this year, one in every 40, he threw
23:14
Speaker 2: an interception every 27 throws last year, this year, one
23:18
Speaker 2: in every 10 from under center. So, so all of the,
23:21
Speaker 2: the idea, how the Seahawks want to play, um, and, and,
23:26
Speaker 2: To get under center, the best stretch, the wide zone,
23:32
Speaker 2: works better from under center because it makes the play action.
23:37
Speaker 2: When you turn your back on the defense, the defense
23:40
Speaker 2: doesn't know if you have the ball. So if you
23:42
Speaker 2: have a running back that has the juice to run
23:47
Speaker 2: the scheme, that has the acceleration, because what's going to
23:52
Speaker 2: happen is, let's say we're going stretch left, wide zone left.
23:55
Speaker 5: Right.
23:55
Speaker 2: And we're going to try and go in the direction
23:58
Speaker 2: of Cross.
23:59
Speaker 5: Okay.
24:00
Speaker 2: Charles Cross and maybe A.J. Barner is out there. It
24:03
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. You can run it to the open side
24:05
Speaker 2: or to the closed side, with or without the tight end.
24:07
Speaker 2: But the aiming point is going to be the same.
24:08
Speaker 2: It goes to the tight end if he's not there.
24:10
Speaker 2: And the running back is reading the end block. And
24:17
Speaker 2: if they can hook the end, meaning get to his
24:19
Speaker 2: outside shoulder, then now the light is green like, hey,
24:23
Speaker 2: you can get to the perimeter. So now Jadarian Price,
24:28
Speaker 2: he puts on the juice to get outside. But at
24:32
Speaker 2: that point, you have to have that burst. You have
24:34
Speaker 2: to have that turbo button. And then if he reads, hey,
24:39
Speaker 2: we didn't hook him, then you make that decision by
24:41
Speaker 2: the third step. And then on your fifth step, you
24:46
Speaker 2: put your outside leg down and make a forceful cut
24:50
Speaker 2: up the field without slowing your stride down. And you're
24:53
Speaker 2: running at an obtuse angle, which remember now, I know
24:56
Speaker 2: it's a wazoo, as a reminder from... How's that do
24:58
Speaker 2: with wazoo? It's just any kind of... They would have
25:00
Speaker 2: never mentioned that.
25:01
Speaker 1: No.
25:01
Speaker 2: They would have thought that was over your head at wazoo.
25:03
Speaker 5: It was.
25:04
Speaker 2: But it's an angle greater than 90 degrees. And so, like,
25:07
Speaker 2: you can do that at full speed. There's just, you know,
25:11
Speaker 2: we're just talking kinesiology. You can do that scheme and
25:15
Speaker 2: never have to slow down, chop your feet. But you've
25:19
Speaker 2: got to have the burst. You've got to have the
25:21
Speaker 2: turbo button.
25:22
Speaker 3: And.
25:23
Speaker 2: Price, I don't have it in front of me, but
25:25
Speaker 2: he was averaging up over five yards on the wide zone.
25:29
Speaker 2: And then now they're under three. And the defense doesn't
25:33
Speaker 2: have to flow as hard. And now the naked bootleg
25:36
Speaker 2: out of the other side, that evaporates because you're not
25:40
Speaker 2: getting the strong flow because nobody fears the speed. And
25:45
Speaker 2: so here they've tied themselves to a scheme that– everybody
25:50
Speaker 2: not named Zidari and Price on the field can't run.
25:53
Speaker 2: I mean, hell, even when Vellis Jones, remember what Herbstreet said?
25:56
Speaker 2: He said, wow, that just looks different. You know, you
25:59
Speaker 2: got a guy literally, you know, a converted receiver. You
26:03
Speaker 2: can't be more quote unquote off the street than Vellis Jones. Yep. But,
26:07
Speaker 2: but we've got a, you know, in ESPN's eyes, they're
26:11
Speaker 2: number one analysts, at least in college level. And, making
26:15
Speaker 2: good money sitting next to Al Michaels, and he's sitting
26:17
Speaker 2: there going, after one carry, he just goes, wow, that
26:21
Speaker 2: looks different. Because it looks different to all of our eyes.
26:25
Speaker 2: We see that there's not, all of us see, there's
26:29
Speaker 2: no speed to make the scheme work. And so this
26:34
Speaker 2: is what Darnold is dealing with. And so even while
26:37
Speaker 2: we spent the first segment dissecting the mistakes he made
26:41
Speaker 2: and how somehow We've got to just trust him like, hey,
26:46
Speaker 2: you've got to take into account the time of the game,
26:48
Speaker 2: what you see, and if a throw is possible, but
26:53
Speaker 2: it's going to take Dan Fouts' anticipation with John Elway velocity,
26:58
Speaker 2: then you've got to just say, you know, that would
27:00
Speaker 2: be like, you know, you know, hitting, uh, when you
27:05
Speaker 2: have a 17, you know, or an 18, like, like, yeah,
27:09
Speaker 2: if you got, if, if you got a three, you're
27:11
Speaker 2: going to get a 21, but dude, play the odds. Like, like,
27:15
Speaker 2: like don't, don't expect that you're going to make a
27:17
Speaker 2: miracle throw. So, so somehow that's what you're entrusting. The
27:22
Speaker 2: entire franchise is entrusting the quarterback to make those decisions.
27:25
Speaker 2: Yellow light. Is it more red or is it more green?
27:29
Speaker 2: And by the way, you can't, Bo Nix lived in
27:31
Speaker 2: every time he saw a yellow light, he interpreted that
27:34
Speaker 2: as a red light. So I'm not that. That's why
27:37
Speaker 2: quarterbacking is hard is because you can't be endlessly conservative either.
27:46
Speaker 2: At some point, you got to go try, you know,
27:48
Speaker 2: big game hunting a little bit.
27:50
Speaker 5: Right.
27:50
Speaker 2: I can't feed your family. You got to go get
27:52
Speaker 2: some completions down the field. But it's knowing when to
27:57
Speaker 2: hold and when to fold them. God dang, that sounds awful.
28:00
Speaker 2: But it's really, here I keep searching for analogies. We
28:03
Speaker 2: all know it. But this is, having been in that pocket,
28:10
Speaker 2: I did a lot of time holding clipboards, but the
28:11
Speaker 2: times I was in the pocket, that's what quarterbacking is.
28:15
Speaker 2: It's a micro fraction of a say, hey, do I
28:20
Speaker 2: have a shot down the field or do I need to,
28:23
Speaker 2: To just check it down. And, you know, Sam thought
28:27
Speaker 2: he had a shot down the field. And by the way,
28:30
Speaker 2: I didn't get to one note. I would rather, if
28:33
Speaker 2: I was his quarterback coach, I would rather have Darnold
28:37
Speaker 2: tell me, hey, they had a quick motion getting back
28:39
Speaker 2: to that second interception. Yep. Sorry, Ian, but I think
28:43
Speaker 2: there's importance. No, it's fine.
28:44
Speaker 3: Go for it.
28:45
Speaker 2: It's a little off the outline. Go for it. But
28:46
Speaker 2: getting back to that second interception, because it's still fresh
28:49
Speaker 2: in everybody's mind, right? The overtime interception. I would rather
28:53
Speaker 2: have him tell me, hey, when Cup did that quick
28:59
Speaker 2: motion to the outside and the Broncos changed their structure
29:03
Speaker 2: immediately before the snap, in watching the end zone copy,
29:08
Speaker 2: Darnold was looking down the middle of the field. And
29:11
Speaker 2: there was a safety there, Brandon Jones, who– went to
29:18
Speaker 2: the middle of the field because he saw trips receivers
29:21
Speaker 2: to he saw shaheed and he saw jsn and he
29:25
Speaker 2: saw cup to his right so he was pushing to
29:28
Speaker 2: the three receiver side he had no speed to his
29:30
Speaker 2: left he had barner right yeah and this this is
29:32
Speaker 2: how they talk they say hey hey i got speed
29:34
Speaker 2: at one two and three to my right but no
29:36
Speaker 2: speed on my left so he would he would push
29:39
Speaker 2: more i would rather have Darnold say to me as
29:41
Speaker 2: the quarterback coach you know what I misread the coverage
29:46
Speaker 2: I thought it was a single safety defense um because
29:49
Speaker 2: the the safety on the other side came down in
29:52
Speaker 2: what would be called three buzz that would be like
29:55
Speaker 2: in softball your left center fielder at the pitch was
30:01
Speaker 2: at the lob pitch in softball, he came running down
30:04
Speaker 2: from left center to play shortstop. That would be the
30:07
Speaker 2: equivalent of what people call three buzz. The safety comes
30:12
Speaker 2: down to take what's called the hook zone, which is
30:14
Speaker 2: a shallow zone. I would rather have Sam Darnold say,
30:19
Speaker 2: I thought they were in three buzz and that they
30:22
Speaker 2: busted it, and I didn't know the safety was there.
30:26
Speaker 2: I would rather have him tell me that Because that
30:29
Speaker 2: would make more sense than have him tell me, yeah,
30:32
Speaker 2: I knew exactly what the coverage was. I saw that
30:35
Speaker 2: safety there. I just thought I could beat him. Because
30:38
Speaker 2: that would make me go, oh, damn. Like, at a
30:44
Speaker 2: critical moment in the game, how did you think you
30:46
Speaker 2: were going to get that completion based on that throw?
30:49
Speaker 2: Because to get the completion against that coverage, as we
30:52
Speaker 2: said in the first segment, it had to be a
30:53
Speaker 2: lot earlier or a lot later.
30:55
Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
30:56
Speaker 2: And so I literally would rather have him tell me,
30:59
Speaker 2: you know what, I thought it was three buzz. I
31:01
Speaker 2: thought it was three buzz. That would make me feel
31:04
Speaker 2: more relieved. All right, let's do this. We'll take a break.
31:08
Speaker 3: We'll come back and put a wrap on things and
31:10
Speaker 3: look ahead. The Ken Walker revenge game. Oh, God, Hugh,
31:13
Speaker 3: all week. We're going to hear that all week long.
31:15
Speaker 3: We'll get to that coming up next. Hugh Millen, Hardcore Football,
31:34
Speaker 3: wrapping up, final segment. Let me just put a final
31:36
Speaker 3: wrap on Sam Darnall. What's your recommendation there to Sam,
31:39
Speaker 3: to the team, et cetera? What's your recommendation?
31:42
Speaker 2: Well, I look at the defense, and they're clearly in
31:45
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. winning, uh, window, right? So, uh, I,
31:50
Speaker 2: I think it's important to be playing the quarterback position
31:53
Speaker 2: for the now. Um, you know, if you were thinking, oh,
31:57
Speaker 2: we're an ascending team and we'll be in a Superbowl
31:59
Speaker 2: window in a year or two, you know, maybe things
32:01
Speaker 2: are different, but to me, I would look at, at say, uh,
32:05
Speaker 2: Darnold has proven it. He, he, uh, we've talked about
32:09
Speaker 2: the running game. Let's get, uh, Let's get Jadarian Price back.
32:13
Speaker 2: He's averaging to just house cleaning. He's 4.6 yards per
32:17
Speaker 2: carry on the wide zone. Emmanuel Wilson is under 3.2,
32:21
Speaker 2: and Helani's under 2.2. So 4.6 for Jadarian Price. Kenneth
32:27
Speaker 2: Walker last year was 4.8, so not terribly far under.
32:30
Speaker 2: I'd want to get Price in there, get the pass
32:34
Speaker 2: blocking better. They threw 51 times the other day, and
32:37
Speaker 2: he said it was overtime. Well, they had 48 in regulations.
32:40
Speaker 2: that that's not what they want to be. They want
32:42
Speaker 2: to be under center more. They want to get that
32:44
Speaker 2: play action going. And, and so I would, I would
32:46
Speaker 2: stick with Donald. I'm not making that kind of a
32:49
Speaker 2: hasty move with, with a 29 year old who's still,
32:51
Speaker 2: you still got another year on his contract. Uh, he
32:54
Speaker 2: might have, you know, five, six, seven years, good years
32:57
Speaker 2: left in him. Um, now this, this, this can't go
33:01
Speaker 2: on forever. This turning the ball over thing that running
33:03
Speaker 2: the red lights. Uh, but, uh, But for now, I
33:08
Speaker 2: would not be hasty. I would be exactly where Mike
33:11
Speaker 2: McDonald is. Everything he said, I would just be, yep,
33:15
Speaker 2: that's my recommendation too. Not that I would be asked,
33:18
Speaker 2: but if I were asked, that would be my thought.
33:22
Speaker 3: How much do you think a healthy Jadarian price changes
33:26
Speaker 3: the dynamic of what they're doing?
33:28
Speaker 2: I think it changes a lot. You need to have
33:33
Speaker 2: that type of acceleration. Remember now, Kenneth Walker, I believe
33:38
Speaker 2: at 1.50, he had the second fastest initial 10 yards
33:45
Speaker 2: of his 40 at the combine of any running backs
33:49
Speaker 2: in the last 10 years. And, you know, so that
33:53
Speaker 2: speed factor, not, not just the long speed that he has,
33:57
Speaker 2: but the, the burst to make that scheme work.
34:01
Speaker 5: Yes.
34:02
Speaker 2: Not every back has it. I mean, The market spoke
34:05
Speaker 2: on Emmanuel Wilson. He's a million and a half dollar
34:07
Speaker 2: running back.
34:08
Speaker 5: Yes.
34:09
Speaker 2: You know, Helani is Helani. I don't want to beat
34:11
Speaker 2: up on him. So that's why you got Jadarian Price
34:16
Speaker 2: in the first round is to bring an extra, you know,
34:20
Speaker 2: spice to that scheme that you want to run, which
34:23
Speaker 2: is the wide zone. And so- Yeah, there's my answer.
34:28
Speaker 3: And I just wanted you to reiterate that because I
34:30
Speaker 3: think you did a really good job of articulating that
34:32
Speaker 3: even in the last segment. The next question would be
34:35
Speaker 3: the same question. What does Zach Charbonnet do to this
34:39
Speaker 3: offense if he comes back this week?
34:41
Speaker 2: Well, I've been extremely consistent all throughout. I said they're
34:48
Speaker 2: both second-round picks. I think they were separated by 10
34:50
Speaker 2: or 15 selections. To me, Kenneth Walker runs like a first-rounder.
34:56
Speaker 2: I said numerous times to my– he's a top five
34:59
Speaker 2: back in the league. And even when there was some
35:04
Speaker 2: games where it looked like he wasn't hitting the hole, Mike, hey,
35:08
Speaker 2: he's still the most talented guy. I think there's enormous–
35:11
Speaker 2: I know at one point, I know for a fact
35:13
Speaker 2: that I said, I think Walker's a first-rounder and Charbonnet
35:16
Speaker 2: runs like a fifth-rounder. Like Charbonnet is a good number
35:20
Speaker 2: two running back, which is what you get in the
35:22
Speaker 2: fifth round. And, um, and that's just, you know, you know,
35:26
Speaker 2: my take with my eyes and, um, now he, Charbonnet
35:30
Speaker 2: is much better than what we have. So it will
35:33
Speaker 2: be a welcome sight to get back, but he's a
35:35
Speaker 2: year older and he's coming off of not one, but
35:38
Speaker 2: two torn ligaments. So if I had that assessment about
35:42
Speaker 2: him a year ago, when he was perfectly healthy, how
35:45
Speaker 2: would I ever think that he's going to be some
35:48
Speaker 2: kind of a savior? It's still a problem. if he's
35:52
Speaker 2: your running back, if Zach Charbonnet is– even last year's
35:55
Speaker 2: version of Zach Charbonnet, to me, is not– that's just stopgap.
36:01
Speaker 5: Yes.
36:02
Speaker 3: If you're a Super Bowl team. You're waiting on price.
36:05
Speaker 3: You're waiting on price. It's better than what you have,
36:07
Speaker 3: but you're waiting on price.
36:08
Speaker 2: And I got to tell you, I don't– it's just
36:10
Speaker 2: confounding to me why this is so difficult to understand
36:14
Speaker 2: the decision Seattle had to make in the offseason. That–
36:18
Speaker 2: Nobody is saying that Seattle should not have signed Witherspoon
36:22
Speaker 2: or JSN or even Leonard Williams. I don't hear that
36:25
Speaker 2: from anybody. I don't think it. You don't think it.
36:27
Speaker 2: You don't talk about it. That is not part of
36:31
Speaker 2: the calculus. But to say that you didn't on some
36:34
Speaker 2: level choose between Rasheed Shaheed and Kenneth Walker, that's silly.
36:40
Speaker 3: Of course you did. I think it's just the simple thing.
36:43
Speaker 3: They just don't value that position. They never have you.
36:46
Speaker 3: For second contracts. I mean, that's just a John Schneider...
36:48
Speaker 3: I mean, it's... I mean, I can't believe you'd be
36:52
Speaker 3: a Seahawks fan and not have wanted Ken Walker back.
36:54
Speaker 2: I think we all... I mean....
36:56
Speaker 3: To say anybody would have been... Like, we were all
36:58
Speaker 3: disappointed when he left, right?
36:59
Speaker 2: I just... At the same time... Well, they wanted him... Yeah.
37:02
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to interrupt you, but they wanted him back.
37:04
Speaker 5: Yeah.
37:05
Speaker 2: You know, let's go down to $ 8 million. Yeah. The
37:10
Speaker 2: $ 8 million was their threshold. That's still... more than five
37:15
Speaker 2: times as much as they paid Emmanuel Wilson. So they
37:17
Speaker 2: wanted him back.
37:18
Speaker 5: Yeah.
37:19
Speaker 2: At what price? And they would have signed him had
37:22
Speaker 2: there been no salary cap.
37:24
Speaker 5: Yep.
37:24
Speaker 2: Right? So then when you look and you say, okay, well,
37:27
Speaker 2: but we don't want to pay a running back. Well,
37:29
Speaker 2: you kind of do. You would have paid $ 8 million
37:31
Speaker 2: for him. The Chiefs obviously paid $ 14 million. So you
37:36
Speaker 2: absolutely looked at your situation and you said, let's replace
37:40
Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker through the draft. in the person of Jadarian
37:43
Speaker 2: price with, with a first round draft pick, you could
37:46
Speaker 2: have said, let's sign a 25 year old Kenneth Walker
37:51
Speaker 2: and replace Rashid Shaheed in the draft. Now that doesn't
37:54
Speaker 2: mean a first rounder because he he's bringing receiving and
37:58
Speaker 2: punt return ability. I've looked at the guys who were
38:01
Speaker 2: the top punt and kickoff return guys. You know, you
38:04
Speaker 2: get a, a returner in the third or fourth round
38:06
Speaker 2: and you know, and you find a number two receipt, like, like,
38:10
Speaker 2: like that could have been their course is to replace
38:12
Speaker 2: Shahid through other means. They chose to replace Kenneth Walker
38:17
Speaker 2: with the first rounder and a guy that we talked
38:20
Speaker 2: on night one was 10 pounds below his listed weight
38:24
Speaker 2: at the, from the combine to his listed weight in
38:26
Speaker 2: the program at Notre Dame, 213 to 203. And then
38:30
Speaker 2: eyeballing him, the legs kind of look more wide receiver
38:34
Speaker 2: ish than running back ish. So we've been talking about the, uh,
38:39
Speaker 2: the durability question with Jadarian Price from the jump. Yeah,
38:42
Speaker 2: from that night. And that he had the third highest
38:45
Speaker 2: fumble rate in the class. And by the way, Kenneth Walker,
38:48
Speaker 2: in his entire NFL career, how many lost fumbles did
38:51
Speaker 2: he get?
38:51
Speaker 3: That would be zero, my friend. That would be zero.
38:53
Speaker 3: That would be zero. Real fast, 69% to 31%. That
38:59
Speaker 3: was Haynes-Stevens at right guard. Do they just have to
39:03
Speaker 3: make a damn decision if Bradford doesn't come back and
39:05
Speaker 3: stop doing this mess around with flipping these guys?
39:09
Speaker 2: We've got like a minute. What do you think? I
39:11
Speaker 2: don't feel strongly about that.
39:12
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay.
39:13
Speaker 2: You know, I think they're probably feeling Stevens, you know,
39:17
Speaker 2: as a first-team All-American. Yeah. Wasn't he on the Joe Moore?
39:22
Speaker 3: But a day three pick, Hugh.
39:24
Speaker 2: A day three pick for a reason.
39:25
Speaker 5: No, I understand.
39:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oluwatimi won the Remington. Yeah, he was Remington. He
39:29
Speaker 2: won the Allen, too, didn't he?
39:30
Speaker 5: I think he did, yeah.
39:31
Speaker 2: I know he won the Remington, and he was a fifth-rounder.
39:33
Speaker 2: So sometimes the league looks and says it doesn't translate.
39:36
Speaker 2: I get that. But I think that they probably feel
39:38
Speaker 2: like they've seen more of Haynes, that Stevens may have
39:41
Speaker 2: more of an upside. It's a good question. Um, I'm sorry.
39:45
Speaker 2: I haven't given a lot of thought. I, you know,
39:47
Speaker 2: the right guard to me, um, you know, Bradford is a,
39:50
Speaker 2: is a mauler. If he, if, if he's in a
39:53
Speaker 2: phone booth, but in the running game, if he has to,
39:56
Speaker 2: when he has to go to the next level, he,
39:58
Speaker 2: The athleticism is subpar passing game, what have you. So
40:02
Speaker 2: so he's limited in his skill set.
40:05
Speaker 5: Yes.
40:05
Speaker 2: And it's it's really just moving the guy right in
40:07
Speaker 2: front of them. But, you know, the screen game, you know,
40:12
Speaker 2: anything requiring athleticism in space, he he becomes, you know,
40:18
Speaker 2: sub average real quickly. So so, you know, the right
40:20
Speaker 2: guard is just, you know, it can't be great everywhere.
40:23
Speaker 2: And right guard has been a hole for a number
40:24
Speaker 2: of years there.
40:25
Speaker 3: Humile and hardcore football, great stuff as always. More at four,
40:28
Speaker 3: I think, with Softie today, right?
40:29
Speaker 2: I think so, yeah.
40:30
Speaker 3: And I would assume more at four that you'll be
40:33
Speaker 3: touching in on the Husky quarterback situation. Ashley, what did
40:35
Speaker 3: you say Jetfish said today? That DeMond Williams is back
40:38
Speaker 3: to practicing. They don't know if he's ready for a
40:40
Speaker 3: game yet, but both quarterbacks will be splitting snaps. Okay,
40:44
Speaker 3: so I'm sure that'll be something you guys hit on
40:45
Speaker 3: more for tonight.
40:46
Speaker 2: We will indeed.
40:48
Speaker 3: There are two weeks away from playing, and there's no
40:50
Speaker 3: reason for him to announce the quarterback. That is a promise.
40:51
Speaker 3: We will touch on that. That is a whole different
40:53
Speaker 3: can of worms, my friend. I'll let you guys, I'll
40:55
Speaker 3: let you Motley guys deal with that stuff.
40:57
Speaker 1: All right.
40:58
Speaker 2: That's great stuff, man. There you go. It's Hugh Millen,
41:00
Speaker 2: Hardcore Football. We'll do it again next Monday. Take a break.
41:02
Speaker 5: Come back.
41:02
Speaker 2: Mike Sando.
41:03
Speaker 3: Man, a lot going on in the NFL, including a
41:04
Speaker 3: change at GM already. We'll talk about that next.
41:23
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41:40
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41:43
Speaker 3: He's got his pick six column up at The Athletic, TheAthletic.com.
41:47
Speaker 3: Lots to get to along the way. Mike, first of all,
41:50
Speaker 3: how are you doing, my friend?
41:51
Speaker 5: Good, how are you?
41:52
Speaker 2: I'm good, good. We've got a fun Monday night game.
41:54
Speaker 3: We'll see if the Commanders can find some magic along
41:57
Speaker 3: the way, even though their top running back is out.
41:58
Speaker 3: Deebo Samuel out for the 49ers. Some thoughts on tonight's
42:03
Speaker 3: matchup as the Niners try to remain unbeaten on the year.
42:06
Speaker 5: Yeah, you sure think they would. We've seen some surprises.
42:09
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, Tampa Bay wasn't supposed to beat Dallas,
42:11
Speaker 5: but now Dallas has lost more games and has a
42:14
Speaker 5: bad record. So it's why they play the games. The
42:16
Speaker 5: 49ers are not going to win every game forever, I
42:19
Speaker 5: don't think. But, man, you would sure like their advantage,
42:21
Speaker 5: you would think, in this game.
42:23
Speaker 3: You would think so. Let me get to a couple things.
42:25
Speaker 3: News of the day. Chris Ballard out in Indianapolis. You
42:30
Speaker 3: have a lot of connections with executives and player personnel
42:32
Speaker 3: guys around the league. Was this a surprise, especially that
42:34
Speaker 3: it happened?
42:35
Speaker 2: What is it? Are they six games in? I know
42:37
Speaker 2: with the buys and stuff.
42:38
Speaker 5: Six games in. Six games in, yeah. Well, I think
42:40
Speaker 5: it was looking kind of ominous. I think that was
42:43
Speaker 5: a tough loss to Tennessee. So I felt sometimes you have–
42:49
Speaker 5: A week ago, were you thinking he'd be out? Probably not.
42:51
Speaker 5: But some of these games that come up when you
42:54
Speaker 5: lose to a really bad team, something happens. And they're
42:57
Speaker 5: far enough along in this thing. They're receiving some talk
42:59
Speaker 5: about whether Ballard was going to come back this year.
43:03
Speaker 5: So I would say that I'm not shocked after that
43:07
Speaker 5: loss because owners just take only so much. And it's
43:12
Speaker 5: been a long time. He's been there 10 years.
43:14
Speaker 2: Their owner's very hands-on too, right?
43:17
Speaker 5: Well, she's headsets on. We know that. She's present. They
43:23
Speaker 5: have an interesting history there where basically Robert Gersay owned
43:29
Speaker 5: the team many years ago and was an alcoholic and
43:31
Speaker 5: was just completely unpredictable and would fire people and fly
43:36
Speaker 5: off the handle. He just wanted to move the team.
43:39
Speaker 5: Then Jim Gersay took over his son and he was
43:42
Speaker 5: kind of lovable, probably had a good heart, but also
43:46
Speaker 5: had some substance issues and could do some crazy things.
43:50
Speaker 5: And then the daughter seems to be, have it together.
43:54
Speaker 5: You know, she seems pretty sharp, but is definitely unconventional
43:57
Speaker 5: in her presence on the sideline and that sort of
43:59
Speaker 5: a thing seems to be pretty well liked. And now
44:03
Speaker 5: we're going to find out, you know, how she handles crises.
44:05
Speaker 5: And so far it looks like she's going to do
44:09
Speaker 5: the GM before the coach. And to me, it makes
44:11
Speaker 5: sense to, If you're going to start this thing over,
44:14
Speaker 5: I mean, Ballard's been there so long, I think it
44:17
Speaker 5: changes the subject a little bit there.
44:19
Speaker 3: Mike, what kind of trouble are the Chargers and specifically
44:23
Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh in? And I know you kind of touched
44:25
Speaker 3: in on this a little bit. Herbert just looks like
44:27
Speaker 3: a different guy. It's just they're 0-6. I mean, there's
44:31
Speaker 3: a lot of surprises. 1-5 Tampa, you mentioned them. But
44:34
Speaker 3: right at the top of the list has to be
44:35
Speaker 3: the Chargers and the regression, so to speak, of Justin Herbert.
44:38
Speaker 5: Which has really started under Harbaugh. Harbaugh's been there three years,
44:42
Speaker 5: and it's been downward ever since in terms of where
44:44
Speaker 5: he stood statistically. I think we had him 12th, 21st,
44:48
Speaker 5: now 32nd this year statistically, and so that's concerning. I
44:53
Speaker 5: think we all expected to be better with Mike McDaniel,
44:56
Speaker 5: who had a good offense for a while in Miami,
44:58
Speaker 5: but I think now in retrospect, one of the things
45:02
Speaker 5: in talking to a coach who had studied them basically
45:06
Speaker 5: said that They came in with the full Miami version
45:09
Speaker 5: of the offense in week one, and Justin Herbert doesn't
45:12
Speaker 5: seem really up to it, that he seems to be
45:16
Speaker 5: not operating quickly. And so I think something's going to
45:20
Speaker 5: change there. They have a bye now. Do they hand
45:25
Speaker 5: it over to somebody else? His quarterback coach and past
45:28
Speaker 5: game coordinator has been there five, six years, Shane Day.
45:31
Speaker 5: Adam Gase is there. He's called plays before. So to me,
45:34
Speaker 5: they've got to do something different.
45:36
Speaker 3: When you wrote that, I was, I kind of was
45:38
Speaker 3: start a little bit with like, and there's different types of,
45:42
Speaker 3: I don't want to say smarts, but like Herbert, not
45:45
Speaker 3: processing it or what have you just, it feels like
45:48
Speaker 3: it's a mental, we know what he is, what he
45:49
Speaker 3: is physically. He's also a brilliant dude. I think he
45:52
Speaker 3: was like pre-med or something at Oregon. Like the guy's
45:54
Speaker 3: a smart dude. So is it just this, whatever this offense,
45:57
Speaker 3: this style, the verbiage just doesn't fit him?
46:00
Speaker 5: Well, I think there's a lot of, uh, there's a,
46:03
Speaker 5: there's a lot of smart people who, wouldn't be good quarterbacks, right?
46:08
Speaker 5: Including some pretty good quarterbacks who weren't good quarterbacks. So,
46:11
Speaker 5: I mean, the thought process there is that, you know,
46:15
Speaker 5: I don't think anyone's ever really lauded him for being a,
46:20
Speaker 5: you know, being a master of situations or processing or decision-making.
46:27
Speaker 5: And some guys really are. That's what they're great at.
46:30
Speaker 5: And that's how I mean, at one extreme, like a
46:32
Speaker 5: Drew Brees can be so good even though he's not
46:34
Speaker 5: even close to Justin Herbert. Or even Brock Purdy is
46:37
Speaker 5: a good example. That was raised in my column. Brock
46:39
Speaker 5: Purdy does get through things quickly and it lets him
46:42
Speaker 5: play quick. He can't probably do some things that Justin
46:44
Speaker 5: Herbert can do, but are we starting to see some
46:46
Speaker 5: limitations of Herbert that never really get talked about because
46:50
Speaker 5: he's such a physical phenom? And I don't think that
46:53
Speaker 5: it means he's not intelligent. I think you have to
46:56
Speaker 5: be intelligent to play that position. He's played it well before,
47:00
Speaker 5: but Is it, you know, there's different levels of how
47:06
Speaker 5: much is too much, you know, for different guys. And
47:11
Speaker 5: I think that's one, at least, you know, one coach
47:15
Speaker 5: that I talked to thought that that was something he
47:18
Speaker 5: saw from playing them.
47:19
Speaker 3: Well, I've waited long enough. Mike Sandel with us. Let's
47:21
Speaker 3: get to the local team here. And Sam, this was
47:24
Speaker 3: a startling number that you had today in the pick
47:28
Speaker 3: six column. And So Jadarian Price has been injured a lot.
47:33
Speaker 3: He was slowed in training camp, I'll say, with whatever.
47:37
Speaker 3: It was kind of an undisclosed thing going on. We
47:39
Speaker 3: didn't see him in the preseason.
47:40
Speaker 2: Comes out.
47:41
Speaker 3: Obviously, we know what happened in the fumble early on.
47:44
Speaker 3: But in regards to Sam Darnold and his play, Mike
47:49
Speaker 3: had this number today. This is amazing. Sam Darnold's only
47:53
Speaker 3: had Jadarian Price on the field for 13 pass attempts
47:57
Speaker 3: this season. 96 without him. And obviously there's times when
48:01
Speaker 3: he wouldn't be out there in a personnel grouping, but
48:03
Speaker 3: the point is he has barely seen Jadarian Price on
48:06
Speaker 3: the field this season, and that might be one of
48:09
Speaker 3: the things leading to Sam Darnold's issues.
48:12
Speaker 5: I think that when you go from an upper level
48:15
Speaker 5: or a good player to kind of sub-replacement level, at
48:19
Speaker 5: any position you're going to feel it. In this offense,
48:23
Speaker 5: they've got to have some kind of a running threat.
48:25
Speaker 5: I think that Darnold needs that too. They basically have
48:28
Speaker 5: one receiving threat that is awesome that you really worry about.
48:31
Speaker 5: And I think they need a second guy carrying the ball. Now,
48:35
Speaker 5: especially when you have fumbles in the end zone and
48:37
Speaker 5: that type of a thing to lose games. But let's
48:40
Speaker 5: throw Drew Locke into this too. Because if you look
48:44
Speaker 5: at when on early downs, take out third down because
48:46
Speaker 5: Price is in and out or he's not playing or whatever.
48:49
Speaker 5: But on early downs, if you look at Darnold and Locke,
48:53
Speaker 5: they are 27 of 33 passing. early downs with Price
48:57
Speaker 5: on the field. And then it falls way off to
49:01
Speaker 5: where they're both under 60% without him. And the yards
49:05
Speaker 5: per attempt falls way down. It's not nearly as many
49:08
Speaker 5: plays for Locke, but it's still a very... It jibes
49:13
Speaker 5: to me a little bit with some of what I'm
49:15
Speaker 5: seeing in terms of the offense. So I do not
49:20
Speaker 5: think him coming back just solves everything. I mean, clearly
49:23
Speaker 5: Sam Darnold's made some really bad decisions. I don't care
49:25
Speaker 5: who's on the field. And some of those decisions are
49:27
Speaker 5: made on third down, by the way. So he's got
49:31
Speaker 5: to play better and protect the ball and they've got
49:33
Speaker 5: to get get going, but I do think that that's
49:36
Speaker 5: a critical component that's missing. That's going to come into
49:38
Speaker 5: big focus this next game because Kenneth Walker, the third's
49:41
Speaker 5: coming back. We may see a Charbonnet back. You know,
49:45
Speaker 5: we're not going to see price back. I don't think,
49:48
Speaker 5: but that position to me has really fallen off in
49:51
Speaker 5: a way that I do think makes a big difference.
49:55
Speaker 3: And I should mention, yeah, the 13 snaps or pass attempts,
49:59
Speaker 3: those are the early down splits for Darnold. And as
50:01
Speaker 3: Mike mentioned, it's the same kind of numbers and splits
50:03
Speaker 3: when we look at with Duloc out there. I mean,
50:06
Speaker 3: it's just, it's night and day. I mean, the passer rating,
50:09
Speaker 3: 136 with him, 77.1 without him. One touchdown, no interceptions with,
50:14
Speaker 3: four and four without. It's just, it's, you got to
50:17
Speaker 3: have a running game, right, Mike, in the NFL? It's
50:19
Speaker 3: as simple, you got to have a running game and
50:21
Speaker 3: a running threat. As well, like you said, sub-level replacement
50:24
Speaker 3: players just don't cut it.
50:27
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think there's other things going on, too,
50:30
Speaker 5: with the line and with the coordinator and Arnold himself.
50:34
Speaker 5: But I do think that if I were them and
50:37
Speaker 5: I could say, hey, one thing here, what could we
50:39
Speaker 5: have back? I think it would be the starting running back.
50:41
Speaker 2: What's going on in L.A. with the Rams?
50:44
Speaker 5: Well, man, I just heard that you were reading off
50:46
Speaker 5: the injuries that came out of the game yesterday. My gosh.
50:49
Speaker 5: That's insane. If I would have known all that, I
50:51
Speaker 5: would have had a section on that because those are
50:53
Speaker 5: some really important players for them, and it does make
50:55
Speaker 5: it seem like they're really behind the eight ball. We
51:02
Speaker 5: all know that they have terrible special teams, and that
51:05
Speaker 5: bit them yesterday when they had a replacement kicker get injured,
51:08
Speaker 5: and they're playing the whole game without a kicker. But
51:10
Speaker 5: I think there's just some other stuff going on there too,
51:14
Speaker 5: you know, and it's a little bit of a mojo
51:16
Speaker 5: thing to me with them, like the chemistry of their team, uh,
51:20
Speaker 5: the way that they added all of these guys in
51:22
Speaker 5: the off season, it just hasn't come together yet. And
51:25
Speaker 5: I think the, the weight of expectations and they've got
51:28
Speaker 5: a circle on their back and, you know, they play
51:30
Speaker 5: a team like Arizona and Mike LaFleur was on the
51:32
Speaker 5: staff and they had their number a little bit. Um,
51:35
Speaker 5: I feel like Kyle Shanahan's had their number anyway. So
51:38
Speaker 5: those haven't gone well for them. They've lost super close games. Uh,
51:41
Speaker 5: You know, Buffalo was one of them. Denver was another.
51:44
Speaker 5: I mean, those are teams you can lose to. And
51:46
Speaker 5: they just, nothing's really kind of gone right for them,
51:48
Speaker 5: I would say, in addition to their own issues. And
51:52
Speaker 5: now you've got, you know, Miles Garrett has barely even
51:56
Speaker 5: played for them. He was supposed to be a big star.
51:59
Speaker 5: Devontae Adams ruptured hamstring. My gosh, Puka Nuku, you can't
52:02
Speaker 5: count on him or they would have paid him. So
52:05
Speaker 5: I do feel now with those injuries on top of it,
52:07
Speaker 5: that it's even more tenuous now.
52:09
Speaker 3: I just, it's a strange year in a sense, but
52:12
Speaker 3: it's also a typical year, right? In the NFL, when
52:14
Speaker 3: things are going on that you don't expect, or they,
52:15
Speaker 3: you know, like this is the chain. I mean, Minnesota
52:18
Speaker 3: five and oh, Tampa Bay one and five, the, you know,
52:21
Speaker 3: the Chargers oh and six and Cleveland leading their division
52:24
Speaker 3: along the way. Good for the Browns, huh? Good for
52:26
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns leading their division.
52:29
Speaker 2: It is. Yeah.
52:29
Speaker 5: And I don't think they're that good of a team,
52:31
Speaker 5: but you know, like the Giants have had a good
52:33
Speaker 5: record too, but, but it's kind of, You know, it's
52:36
Speaker 5: got to be great for them and their fans, even
52:39
Speaker 5: though I know it's hard to get excited about Deshaun Watson.
52:44
Speaker 5: But I think, you know, them being competitive is probably good.
52:50
Speaker 5: It's definitely good for Cleveland. I think it's good for
52:51
Speaker 5: the league to just not have teams that just can't
52:54
Speaker 5: win or can't even function. They look at least functional.
52:59
Speaker 3: For anybody watching Sunday Night Football last night, and most
53:01
Speaker 3: of us that are NFL fans probably were, As I
53:05
Speaker 3: think we're watching that game, I'm thinking to myself, what
53:09
Speaker 3: is going on in Dallas? First of all, what's going
53:12
Speaker 3: on in the defensive coordinator world? They bring a guy in.
53:15
Speaker 3: They've got a young guy in Christian Parker who hasn't
53:18
Speaker 3: seemed to work out. They've given up 159 points so
53:20
Speaker 3: far in six games this season. It doesn't seem like
53:22
Speaker 3: it's any better on the defense. But then, oh, by
53:24
Speaker 3: the way, then your offense isn't doing anything last night either, Mike.
53:27
Speaker 3: It was just a combination of things.
53:30
Speaker 5: I've been impressed by– I think the Packers have righted
53:32
Speaker 5: the ship.
53:32
Speaker 4: Yes.
53:32
Speaker 5: And I think Jonathan Gannon as a D coordinator there
53:34
Speaker 5: did a great job.
53:36
Speaker 1: Yeah.
53:36
Speaker 5: Really had their number because it is a pretty good
53:37
Speaker 5: offense of Dallas. But the Cowboys are– they're just sort
53:42
Speaker 5: of like born to disappoint to me. And they're their
53:45
Speaker 5: own worst enemy. Before the season, talking Super Bowl, this
53:48
Speaker 5: and that. I mean, try to win your division. And
53:51
Speaker 5: they've even struggled to do that. They may even struggle
53:54
Speaker 5: to do that this year given the state of the division,
53:56
Speaker 5: which is terrible.
53:57
Speaker 2: Terrible. Terrible.
53:58
Speaker 3: I look at that division– We were talking about it earlier.
54:00
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're Seattle, you're the Rams, you're thinking
54:02
Speaker 3: wildcard right now. I mean, maybe something can happen, but
54:05
Speaker 3: 49ers should go 6-0 tonight. That puts you, if you're
54:08
Speaker 3: Seattle and Rams, they both lost to the 49ers, effectively
54:11
Speaker 3: three and a half games back. It feels like it's
54:13
Speaker 3: going to come down to the NFC West and the
54:15
Speaker 3: NFC North for the wildcard spots, Mike. Am I reading
54:18
Speaker 3: that correctly?
54:19
Speaker 2: Yeah.
54:20
Speaker 5: I feel that too. You know, and I think that...
54:23
Speaker 5: I think Seattle's going to get there. Winning the division,
54:26
Speaker 5: maybe that's going to be tough to do, but it's
54:27
Speaker 5: still early. I think Seattle's not a team people are
54:30
Speaker 5: going to want to play. No. Put it that way.
54:33
Speaker 5: I think they're going to hang around. I think they'll
54:34
Speaker 5: get some improvement on offense. It's just been too many disasters. Still,
54:39
Speaker 5: disaster games on offense and you lose by one or
54:42
Speaker 5: two points. To me, that's going to turn a little
54:45
Speaker 5: bit at some point. I think there's a stretch of
54:47
Speaker 5: the schedule, too, coming out of the bye that I
54:49
Speaker 5: see them. I can see them being a or coming
54:52
Speaker 5: out of the Kansas City game, I could see them
54:53
Speaker 5: being a 6-4 team kind of at the bye and
54:56
Speaker 5: then hitting stride a little bit. That's sort of what
54:58
Speaker 5: I expect from them.
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Speaker 3: They've got to get the Chicago game. That's because of
55:00
Speaker 3: conference game and you start talking about tiebreakers and all that.
55:03
Speaker 3: I mean, that Chicago Monday night game here, what, two
55:05
Speaker 3: weeks from tonight is going to be massive. But did
55:07
Speaker 3: you mention– is that right? Kenneth Walker is coming back
55:09
Speaker 3: to town? Are we going to talk about that at
55:11
Speaker 3: all this week?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. I think that we are. I think most
55:14
Speaker 5: people would be happy for him. I agree. I agree.
55:17
Speaker 5: you know, Super Bowl MVP and he helped get him there.
55:20
Speaker 5: I think we understood, you know, what they were thinking
55:22
Speaker 5: in terms of, hey, we're paying these guys, but we're
55:25
Speaker 5: not going to pay big money for a running back
55:27
Speaker 5: and we'll draft one. And I think the one they
55:28
Speaker 5: drafted is pretty good. He's fumbled the ball and he's
55:30
Speaker 5: been hurt. So it's a worst case scenario in the
55:32
Speaker 5: short term because Walker's just going crazy with a monster year.
55:36
Speaker 5: And you wonder, God, what if he was doing that
55:38
Speaker 5: in Seattle? You know, this team would probably be undefeated.
55:41
Speaker 1: Unreal.
55:42
Speaker 3: It'll be a hell of an atmosphere on Sunday night.
55:44
Speaker 3: The Pick 6 column is up there at The Athletic, theathletic.com.
55:48
Speaker 3: Great stuff. Great recap. Deep dive into all the things
55:50
Speaker 3: that happened on the NFL weekend. So make sure you
55:53
Speaker 3: check that out. Mike, in the meantime, we'll talk to
55:54
Speaker 3: you next week, and you'll be on with the morning
55:56
Speaker 3: show later this week.
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Speaker 2: We'll look forward to that as well. Thank you.
55:58
Speaker 5: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: There you go.
55:59
Speaker 3: That is our good friend Mike Sando joining us.
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Speaker 2: Oh, man.
56:03
Speaker 3: It's Sunday night football. Are you kidding me? Ken Walker,
56:05
Speaker 3: Kansas City, Pat Mahomes.
56:08
Speaker 2: I'm stressed out thinking about it.
56:09
Speaker 3: I'm like... I'm jacked for it.
56:12
Speaker 2: I can't wait.
56:13
Speaker 3: Oh no, it's going to be great fun, but I
56:14
Speaker 3: will be stressed out watching it at home yelling. It's
56:18
Speaker 3: not a, and it's not, I mean, three and four
56:23
Speaker 3: becomes a little daunting.
56:25
Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Three and four, but you're still, but yeah, you win
56:28
Speaker 3: that one. All of a sudden you're four and three
56:30
Speaker 3: and I'm with my, you win that one, you beat Chicago.
56:33
Speaker 3: Now all of a sudden you're five and three.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
56:35
Speaker 3: Okay. Looking pretty good.
56:36
Speaker 2: We're going.
56:37
Speaker 5: Yeah.
56:37
Speaker 3: And Green Bay, Chicago, Detroit, somewhere along the way, those
56:39
Speaker 3: teams will get a loss. So, Yeah, I mean, that's,
56:42
Speaker 3: but it's six weeks into the season, and it's really,
56:47
Speaker 3: I mean, the Packers and the Lions play each other
56:49
Speaker 3: next week, so someone takes a loss there.
56:51
Speaker 2: That helps.
56:51
Speaker 3: Like, the Central or the North will take care of
56:55
Speaker 3: itself in some ways, but boy, oh boy, Ash, this is,
56:59
Speaker 3: you just cannot afford to keep stringing together losses in
57:02
Speaker 3: the NFL. No, I agree, but you know, there is
57:04
Speaker 3: always the chance that the 49ers could suck today. Well,
57:10
Speaker 3: I mean, there is a substation. God, I feel like
57:13
Speaker 3: there's a substation down with the Rams right now, huh?
57:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is. Holy smokes.
57:17
Speaker 3: I think Aaron Donald's going, eh, was this the best decision?
57:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably not.
57:23
Speaker 3: He's like, man, I was healthy, and now nobody is.
57:26
Speaker 3: I thought we were going to go 16-1 and just
57:28
Speaker 3: cruise into the Super Bowl, and apparently that's not going
57:31
Speaker 3: to happen for them.
57:32
Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 3: We want to hear from you. 49451, that is the
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Speaker 3: Tacoma Dodge text line, 49451. We'll get your thoughts, your comments,
57:39
Speaker 3: your questions, your concerns, all the discussion we've had today,
57:41
Speaker 3: a lot of Seahawk conversation. Also, I'll get the talkbacks
57:44
Speaker 3: going as well. Love to hear your voice. Factor Fiction
57:47
Speaker 3: coming up as well.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. We're not good. Well, we only had two
57:53
Speaker 2: picks last week.
57:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they weren't good ones. I know, but we
57:58
Speaker 3: only had two. So here's the good news.
57:59
Speaker 2: We only went 0-2.
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Speaker 5: Right? Yay.
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Speaker 3: Yay. We'll change that. We'll flip the script coming up next.