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ABJ Podcast Ep 12 Nolan Pierce · ABJ

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We are back a BJ podcast. Once again episode 12, this will
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be the final episode of 2022. Want to get a little
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self-reflective real quick before I bring my guest and I
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want to thank you all so much for all the support that's been
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coming this month. The last couple months, with
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this podcast, with this new Channel, with the everything
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starting over was terrifying. Doing something you've worked
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really passionate about and doing five shows.
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For four years. Some of those shows being weekly
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every single week, doing five a day 50 week was super stressful,
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super hard on me. But they are all great lessons
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to be learned. But yeah restarting over
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bringing it bringing in a new brand and really getting this
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going has been amazing. It's really we're really close
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to that 400 Mark over on YouTube, but even if I don't hit
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it, it's not a huge deal. Because in a three-month span,
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we hit 370 some Cybers Which is far surpassed anything I did
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with my other channels in a four-year Gap.
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So the fact that you all jumped in and showed that support and
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buying t-shirts and subscribing to the patreons, and stuff means
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the absolute world to me, and we're going to hit this ground
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running hard in 2022. Tons of neat stuff coming.
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I cannot wait to share it all with you and have some fun with
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that being said, there's going to be a new thing coming.
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Year. There's so if everyone everyone
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that they're big fans of the, a BJ merchandise, right?
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The I Heart a BJ is going over, heavy, that logo is not going
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anywhere. We're going to bring a new
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twenty, twenty twenty twenty three version of that.
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Here it is right here, very simple, very easy.
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So, if you're interested, let me know.
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And we're going to start a little bit of a collection
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starting in 2023 to be t-shirts. I think I'm just gonna do
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t-shirts and stickers on the websites and get some stickers
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made up to hand out, but we're going to start off.
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This week, the end of this week 2023, with the brand-new logo to
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start this collection for the holidays, the year of a BJ 2023,
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the year of a BJ merchandise, going to be dropping very soon.
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So, if you're interested, make sure you go over and check out
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those those, those merge pages and subscribe, do all that fun
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stuff. Make sure you check below for
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the a BJ. Le podcast links, follow on all
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social media. Let's start leaving reviews,
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Go to the on the Facebook page, go and hit a review, hit a
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I'm really excited for this year.
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So much, cool things planned. One, last little bit of
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housekeeping for, I bring my guest and I'm sorry this one's
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going a little long, but I have booked two guests, every single
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Tuesday for the entire month of January.
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So you're going to get one in the morning afternoon.
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And they're going to get one at night and that's going to be the
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trend. I don't know if she'll be like
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that forever, but we're going to hit 2023 hard and I'm going to
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announce right now our first two guests of 2023 and there are two
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people who were instrumental in my time at the sanctuary helping
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me in this journey being super supportive given me great
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feedback. The first one it's going to be
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the thespian himself JS. Hawthorne if you do not know
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about jazz Hawthorne you are crazy please look more into them
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to this guy but that's going to be the first guests of the new
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Here, followed by someone, who's doing big things started his own
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little wrestling promotion. Been killing it all over the
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northeast PA area. With smash Master wrestling, the
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Mastodon Roch will be the next guest following so will be JS
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Hawthorne in the afternoon morning Macedon at night so we
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have a lot of cool things to talk about tons of guests coming
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this year. If you want to be a guest like I
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said the link below first thing you're going to see a sign up to
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be a guest. Let's get it done.
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Let's get more people on the show.
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Show for next month, it's gonna be a lot of fun.
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And Harley says, do not stress yourself out.
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I won't, I love doing these conversations.
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We're going to grind, we're going to hit the ground running
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hard. We're gonna be a 50 episodes
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quick, it's going to come. It's going to come quick and I'm
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super excited for it. Without further Ado, let's bring
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in the last guest. The of 2022, this can never
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happen again, it's his title forever, you will be undefeated
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Nolan pierce the magnum opus. There it is, man.
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How's it going? It is going great.
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I am digging this 70s Vibe you got going on.
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You got a fluffy pillow. You got like The Brady Bunch
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curtains. This is this beautiful.
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I'm back at home. You know, it's not for the
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holidays, not in my apartment. I wear I got like, the Gavin
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picture behind me. You know?
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I, yeah, I yeah. Well, I have the Gavin trading
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card. Oh, I got a card for Christmas
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as well, you know? Yeah.
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Love that guy, I love that kid but Dad, they're great, super
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supportive of the independent scene as well as a lot of people
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in the chat here. So we have add the SW AGM
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hanging out saying, what's up brother, Harley in this chat.
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She's always here and tantalizing Tony's saying, make
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sure you're over on the YouTube side of hitting those likes.
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If you are watching on Facebook and you haven't done so already,
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please head over and subscribe, on that YouTube.
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Let's hit the try to hit 380 by the end of the night, that would
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be dope, right? But let's have some fun here,
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Nolan. Let's get into it.
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How first off? How was your 2022?
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you know, it was 22 was crazy because you know I I'm sure
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you've seen me for years. I've been helping training just
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for years, you know, walking around being an annoying little
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kid and then and then I just got on the show's.
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It was, you know, it was three years in the making got in the
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show's was a great moment for me.
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And then right? As it stuff was kind of getting
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the ball. I was getting the ball rolling a
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little bit. I needed to get my appendix
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removed and really yeah that's that's where I've been.
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The past two months. You know, I've been walking
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around again and haven't been in the ring but I'm good now.
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So, you know, 2023 is going to be a big year, but 2022 is, you
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know great year finally got you got to Showcase in front of
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people. What you love to do now, let's
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rewind a little bit because, like, you have you, like you
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said, you've been someone in the cut for three years and just
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biding, your time, stayed patient, did everything.
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You're supposed to be doing when you come to your grind, what are
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some things that you did before you even start a training that I
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would do around a wrestling promotion to help with the show,
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right? So I would do a lot of I would
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do a lot of ring crew. I remember there was one show in
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particular. I always like to mention it was
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a show at the mall that we did and I I was super skinny, no
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muscle on me. And it was like three of us.
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And I was bringing these beams across the mall all the way up,
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the broken escalator, and I was sore.
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Was, you know, I passed out after that and just stuff like
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that, you know, I was always going up to two people like
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Paul, but we just saying, what can I do to help?
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You know, I just, I just wanted to feel like I was a part of it
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because, you know, I knew I had so much time before I can
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actually perform in front of people because I couldn't do
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anything. You know.
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I I've been training for three years it's just beyond in front
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of shows so I wanted to make sure like I just wanted to be a
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part of it and I wanted to like the The wrestlers in the back to
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feel like, hey, you know this kids kind of putting in work
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whenever he does debut, you know, I'm really happy for this
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kids. That was a big thing, you know,
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just help with ring crew, just whatever anybody needed.
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I was running grabbing Waters all the time, just anything
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really? Dude that is so I love that you
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brought that up because I think a lot of people from the
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outside, maybe fans are outside. People see you and you make her
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debut and you're like well what are this kid come from?
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What the he do? Why is he have a spot on that
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show and why? And I'm not saying that.
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I'm sure that's that's things that are said.
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People see me like why is this podcast joke on a podcast doing
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commentary at a show where people don't realize like before
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I even stepped on commentary, I was doing the same thing.
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Like I don't do a lot with ring crew, I have helped here and
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there no joke, that's not no joke.
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But like with production bringing in camera setting up
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cameras helping what roving helping with edits, you know,
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like there's a lot of things that you can do in this business
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to really get to where you need to be.
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So I didn't even know commentary with something.
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I wanted to do, but I did backstage interviews, I help
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with production, I would carry equipment and it just helped
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film things. And, and it led to where you are
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now and you kind of pay those dues and you kind of earn the
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respect of everybody around you by doing everything to get those
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steps to get where you need to be.
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I think a lot of people, they see their goal, but don't
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realize that their goal May intent.
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I may be doing a couple hip-hop before you get there.
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You know what I mean? Like, I want to wrestle but I'm
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gonna have to carry your ring for six months.
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I want to wrestle but I may have to drive People back and forth
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to the airport. I want to wrestle, but I might
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have to sell 50 50s this show, you know what I mean?
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Like, you just do what needs to be done to make sure the show
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flows makes money, and keep and stays profitable.
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So the show stays around and they're very valuable things to
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do. And now you're a wrestler and
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hopefully somebody else sees your work ethic and tries to
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fill those shoes once again. Yeah, no.
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It's it's so important right? It's a cycle.
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You know? You see people come in and then
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they take that role and then you know you watch you Become a
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wrestler than somebody else, takes that role and then it's
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just, it's a cycle that's been going on for me, you know, 30
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plus years. You know, getting of wrestling,
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baby. Yep.
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Yeah. And it's super important because
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you see a lot of people come into wrestling.
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They hear about that. Grind, that, that working
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towards becoming a wrestler commentary, anything.
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And they kind of say, you know what, maybe this isn't for me.
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I don't really care for this. I don't, I don't really like
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driving for hours and I think some stuff and driving for hours
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back home and not doing anything and very understandable, you
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know, I can't fault you for not enjoying that, but there's,
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there's something about it. You gotta love and it's no one
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became world champion at what about putting a little bit of
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work in never happened. No one ever walked in the door
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and said, oh, you know what? We like you, because you have a
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pretty face, great, red hair, and a nose ring.
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Here's the world champion, no one.
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That would be nice. Yeah, you know, I've put the
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work in. It's it's been it's been a fun
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cycle so far. And so, how old are they say, 18
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years old. I was good.
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I was you beat me to it. You're a young pup in this game
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man. And like I said three years and
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now you're 18 and you're finally getting those things.
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But in a lot not a lot of 18 year olds, get the debut in a
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company at 18 years old but because your three years of
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doing that work and being That kid, that's why, that's why you
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got? Imagine 18 years old in 2022, a
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ppw because people seen that work, people seen what you're
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willing to do for a company, and I commend you for that, man.
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That's, that's, that's exactly what you're supposed to do.
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It was Like right, it was July. I, my birthday is in June.
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So in July, I got on the show like people like Anthony TJ Paul
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bow, like they, they get it and they saw me for so long.
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He saw me grow up, like, it's similar for for Ian, like
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Anthony son, who I'm now watching kind of grow up as he,
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you know, watch me grow up to become an 18 year old now he's,
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you know, 15, you know, growing up and it's just It was such a,
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such a great moment and I always find it funny because like I
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always kind of get grouped in with other people where it's
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like, oh he you know, he's so young and, you know, they'll put
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me with other people and those other people are young.
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They're like, you know, but they're like 24 and stuff.
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And I'm like, I'm a my like, a like a premature, like, baby or
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something. Like, you know, yeah, you don't
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carry yourself like an 18, year-old, your you have a good
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head on your shoulders, you're very laser-focused and not a lot
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of 18 year, olds have the mindset, you have a In this
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business, you know what I mean? And kind of going back you ever
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have that and I said this does not apply to you, right?
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But sometimes in this business, if you put that work in on the
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extra end like the ring crew wouldn't flyer in and everything
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like that. There's people who get titles
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put on them and they're not even that good but because they put
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the work in to help the company that happens all the time that
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happens on TV. If you're a good hand, good
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hands, get rewarded. You know what I mean?
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And then you put towel on top of that.
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Like you have way you're gonna, you're gonna To be something in
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the future brother. Thank you.
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Yeah, I hope so. I love this.
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I love this business way too much.
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It's an addiction for me at this point.
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I watch all I watch is wrestling.
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All I can seem is wrestling. All I think about his wrestling
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and, you know, sometimes it's a little bit of a little bit of a
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downfall, but I love it so much. I'm going to.
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This is all I want and I'm going to keep, you know, grinding for
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it. It's, it's a journey.
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I've these past two months of, you know, recovering from
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appendicitis have been held because I haven't been able to
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do anything I made. I didn't let myself watch
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wrestling because I just wanted to be active again and but, you
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know, we're back now we're training again.
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So it's nice who I kind of jumping around a little bit, my
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question, just because I see something in you, and I want to
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ask the question and then kind of pose it to you unless you say
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it before I do. But who are Some people right
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now that you're looking at, on the scene who inspire, you are
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that you say, like, I can be in those shoes or there someone
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like, they're, they're kind of setting a blueprint that I'd
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like to follow. Yeah.
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You know, there's a lot of people who I really like on the
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independent scene, who I'm really big fans of like, like,
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action on Freddie. I'm so happy for em.
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He's such a, such a good guy and just seeing all that made me so
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happy, but I was live on tantalizing, Tony, when
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Happened. And I was like bro, it went to
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commercial bro. He kicked out of a code breaker
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bro. This match is getting a lot of
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time, bro. The crowds really into this.
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I'm like, he's gonna beat Jericho on the, like, get out of
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here and then he did it and I literally threw my headphones
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off. I ran around this room, like it
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was not. I was going crazy.
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What I saw him in the ring. Like I was like yeah it caught.
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That's like that that's action. I'm like there in Texas.
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Why is accident X? And then I was like, bro, he's
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getting signed like yeah. I was watching that with like
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another one of my friends and I, we were just going crazy.
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He's real. It was such a cool moment.
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Yeah. Moments like that.
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Or like Matt like they're, it's real it, you know, it the
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Visions real, you can see it. And people like him, who work
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hard are just so talented. You see it?
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And we all saw it at ppw. We saw like this guy's going up,
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and he did already. Yeah, he's 24.
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Yeah, that's a great answer. And that's not even The one I
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was fishing for. I love that.
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Thank you for that, man. But here's where I was think,
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you know, who you remind me a lot of Who You remind me a lot
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of what Jordan Oliver Jordan. Oliver's the man, because if you
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if you look at Jordan all over 23 years ago he wasn't a big
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guy. He was scrawny, he was athletic.
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And then he he matured like listen, it's hard.
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Putting on muscle mass at 18 years old.
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Your metabolisms to the roof. It's hard to get those gains.
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It's hard to do it naturally and Jordan Oliver stayed patient.
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Isn't he stayed in his craft? He got good at what he did, and
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then he kind of hit that mode where he turned into a man.
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Your, I mean, he stopped putting the ball gun.
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This kid looks amazing. Now, his look matches his skill
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and the like, he is unbelievable.
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He reminds me so much, like of a young, a news like new version
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of Shawn Michaels. Like he like just everything
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about him. He's a great look, everything.
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And I can see you in those steps as well, where I think like you
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hit that 20 24 25 and then the muscle starts packing on because
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your body. He's adjusting and everything
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like that. I can definitely see you in
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those shoes and being that next door and Oliver.
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Yeah, that was. That was actually the second
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name. I was going to mention.
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I love that. I love that.
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It's so funny because The current generation of wrestling,
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you kind of just assumed that wrestlers are going to be a
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little bit different, like, style wise but he is, he does so
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many simplistic things that I love like, he has a beautiful
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big boot. Like, he has a great Power Bomb.
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I'm like, and he's just his Charisma has off the charts and
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and you've seen it for a while because like, all right, like
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just here and he screams in the ring.
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Like I got a guy like him. I just think, is so talented and
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now, You know, he's getting all big shredded right now.
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I saw he was just in Japan which is, you know, a dream of mine.
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So you know it's really cool to see.
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And I appreciate that comparing. Yeah, definitely, absolutely.
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So how did now we're going to kind of backtrack because you
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know I mean. But anyway, how did you fall in
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love with this pro wrestling business?
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What was that moment that you seen?
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It are experienced in your like this is it, this is my love.
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Yeah, so I got into pro wrestling late in.
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T10, when I was like around kindergarten and Sorry, I hate
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doing that to people when I like, that's alright, that's
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alright. But like it was CM Punk did it
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for me, CM Punk. And I, and that's becoming a
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more common answer. I noticed nowadays with a lot of
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wrestlers, my last guest of the same exact name.
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Yeah, I saw that. And, and it was the match with
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John Cena that just same. Exact story lines, same exact
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match, he fell in love with. Yeah, I saw the pipe bomb.
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Um, I was like this dude is different like, like I had a
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bunch of friends into wrestling. They were all John Cena.
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Guys, I was like, no, I don't like John Cena.
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I like CM Punk, you know, I like the guy with the tattoos, the
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lip piercing, you know, outspoken, you know, not the
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cleanest of moves, but you know, he's got fight and I was up till
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midnight that night screaming at the TV about CM Punk.
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My parents bought money in the bank for me.
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You know, that was that was the moment.
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I decided that night I was going to, I wanted to be a pro
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wrestler. I went into school that the year
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after telling people I'm going to be a pro wrestler and the so
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yeah. And you're obsessed ever since I
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was pro wrestling. A thing in your house.
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Like did your parents enjoy it or yeah, fun.
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My parents actually met at. December 1999.
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W. Ha ha like that is so I loved, I
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loved when this business does things like that.
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Like that's what people like dude.
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When you want something, you don't realize how big the
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landscape of what you're consuming is and how much bigger
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it is than you even can imagine like friendships love.
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Kids, come out of pro wrestling. You know what I mean?
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Like what a cool. That's great.
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I love to hear that your parent. You're a wrestling baby.
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I was, I was, did your did your parents know what SummerSlam?
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It was that they met 99. I believe if that one had a
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theme to it or anything but it was 99.
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I'm not quick with like who if somebody in the chat party like
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99 Main Event was this, if you're that guy put it in there
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we'll have fun with it but that is amazing.
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Who were your parents favorites growing up.
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My mom, my mom was a big Goldberg fan.
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She met go oh, picture with them.
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Yeah she was a WCW person. She liked her WCW as well.
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Yeah. My dad's always been a big cane
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fan. Okay.
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Yeah. So you know, there was being
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into them, my mom is funny enough, she really likes Jordan
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Oliver, she saw him at ppw while ago, it was like she kind of
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said the comparison to but she and she was like he's just so
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caring. Asthmatic like just like all
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these good things about I was like yeah scream or, you know,
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he's on Morel him. Why?
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No, they're all part of that. Stay with him and Griffin McCoy
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man. Oh yeah McCoy is unbelievable
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that a recently. That's yeah, yeah, quick.
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Wikipedia search says Steve, Austin Champion verse mankind.
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Verse Triple H if for the WBO title was SummerSlam 99 Main
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Event. There you go.
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Yeah, there it is. Anger.
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I'd love that. All right, man.
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So so you know, you're obsessed, right.
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You're buying all the toys are watching.
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Every, you're watching every week, where you, someone, who
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just concerned, don't consume wer, were you were you always
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into the independency in which Japan on your way are was impact
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on your radar. Did you just consume everything
21:46
or you kind of locked into one brand?
21:48
I actually was quick to also get into tiene when I was very like
21:52
2011-12. I got into TNA and then I
21:56
started going to And funny enough, I'm born and raised on
22:00
Long Island, New York, and there was a company Victory pro
22:04
wrestling, which is still around, and the top guy there
22:08
was vsk and, oh, that's a name. And, there's a funny picture of
22:15
him holding me up at my 9th birthday party, because I was
22:19
his manager, and he has me on his shoulders.
22:23
And that's if you want, I'll just say that's a dream, a
22:27
chance. Mind, you know, like Paul ball,
22:28
Anthony King and of your listening.
22:30
If you don't book him versus V SK and do the whole like this
22:33
King holding and then it's armed, you fucked out.
22:39
I was a great moment. I remember it all the time and
22:43
he was actually there for how active he is a ppw.
22:45
That could happen that can happen.
22:48
Yeah. No we talk all the time at the
22:50
shows, you know it's super cool. Is he aware of of you and the
22:53
baby picture? Okay.
22:55
Yeah, we were We were joking like he was there the night.
22:59
I debuted more like gonna recreate the like was recruited
23:02
the photo at. He saw the picture, he's like,
23:04
fuck that. And then we just had a regular
23:06
picture. So, bro, that makes me so happy
23:10
I didn't, I was not aware of that story.
23:12
That is great. So, you know, when did you start
23:18
to like, find out like art, how did you find?
23:20
Because like I said, you were in the ppw thing.
23:22
That's is that wears out there where your first got into
23:24
training when they read holy Academy and that's tough.
23:26
Yes, So I actually was at ppw, the first like a kazoo Mikey
23:33
whipwreck was actually. Yeah, he was.
23:35
He was training. Yes, I was there.
23:37
The first month actually and I I was just, I was 14, I was not
23:43
ready for it really, yet I took a year kind of just, you know,
23:47
decided I need a little bit more.
23:49
I want to backtrack real quick, so add 14 years old had to use
23:52
stumble across ppw their school. You're from Long Island that's
23:56
in Hazelton. How does that come about?
23:57
About. So I moved up to North.
23:59
PA like the year previous and my mom.
24:03
Like, my mom is known. I want to be a pro wrestler for
24:05
a long time, and a lot of these stories, come back to my mom.
24:09
Just being the most supportive person.
24:11
That is so key, man, you people don't realize how strong support
24:17
can be for somebody in their dreams and their passion.
24:19
I listen, you can be that person who just overcomes the odds of
24:24
everyone saying, you can't do something, but I having a
24:26
parent, a friend, a best, a brother.
24:29
Thing who just like, dude I got your fucking back.
24:32
Do it your mom's putting you in position since the age of 14
24:35
years old to be in this business, bro?
24:37
That's so strong. It's such a strong thing.
24:39
You can do for somebody. I love that.
24:41
Yeah, no. She found it on Facebook because
24:45
I was like, I want to train so badly I just don't know what's
24:48
around. She found it.
24:51
You know, it was good. I just wasn't ready.
24:53
I was everything hurt. You know, I was 14, you know, it
24:57
hurts a lot and when you're 14, your Just running ropes to and
25:00
cosmetics. You're not really like you're
25:02
doing bombs, but you're not really locking up with people,
25:04
correct. I was, but it was hurting a lot.
25:08
Yeah. Not a lot of meat on those bones
25:10
is pure bone on ground. I needed, I needed a good year
25:14
to kind of, you know, build, build everything back up.
25:19
And so then, I, I spent the year just doing whatever and then I I
25:28
came back and everything, everything was good, everything
25:31
still hurt a lot because I'm, you know, when you're like in
25:34
high school it's you're growing a lot and everything hurt a lot.
25:39
I, it was a fun but it was a fun process.
25:42
You know, I love it. Was there ever a moment in that
25:45
first year, when the when it just hurts so bad, taking the
25:48
bumps and you're good? I think my headset just died.
25:54
One second that take your time. Okay, we're good, we're good.
25:58
Okay, so in that first year, was there any was there ever any
26:01
doubt in your mind? Where you're like?
26:03
Man this hurts too much. I don't know if I can do this.
26:05
I'm so small. Like, this is really this.
26:07
This is more than I thought it was with that ever creep into
26:10
your head. We're it has I always kind of
26:17
just told myself like you have to be a pro wrestler.
26:20
Like that was, you know, I might my brain has IQ points at
26:27
wrestling. That's I never really, I never
26:30
passed math. You know, that was I couldn't do
26:33
math. My brain just works for pro
26:36
wrestling and I was like, man, this this sucks right now but
26:40
it's not in a suksoon, you know, and and since it was just
26:44
training for so long, I was It's been a year and a half year and
26:49
five months you're in four months.
26:51
Like I'm just waiting. I'm like biting at, you know,
26:53
just biting at the opportunity to just be out in front of the
26:56
crowd and so, yeah. You know, I think doubt is
27:00
something that everybody has to go through and just being able
27:04
to realize, hey look, you can do this.
27:08
Yeah, you you are you are light years ahead of people when it
27:13
comes to time in ring at 18 years old, you realize that
27:18
right? Like that is that is a huge
27:22
badge of honor, my guy like and the fact that like you train
27:25
with a Mikey whipwreck for a little bit.
27:27
Like that's a good trainer. Like now another thing to, I
27:29
know you, I know you train right now with how you were ppw.
27:32
Now you're at, you were at Battlefield and I said, now you
27:34
just moved my last guest. We just talked about how he
27:37
loves going to different schools and experiencing new different,
27:40
new schools, because it makes him more well-rounded.
27:42
Is that something you're looking at as well of China.
27:44
Maybe see different places to see.
27:46
What you can pick up from other places.
27:49
Yeah. So I trained with Tommy suede
27:52
for. Yeah.
27:52
Tommy sweet as well. I'm so sorry I forgot that.
27:54
Yeah, yeah. Tommy trained me for it was me
27:57
and him for two years. I saw so many people, and I'm
28:01
sure you've seen new wrestlers, come to come and go and the the
28:06
kid who was 15 stuck through and I wasn't even able to be on
28:11
shows, I didn't have that instant gratification, you know.
28:14
But, uh, Yeah, I trained with him and then offer came in.
28:20
And now, I live in Connecticut, through for school, and I
28:23
actually trained at the test of strength wrestling school with
28:27
Bobby ocean, and Sleek Wagner Brown.
28:29
And that is a, that is a product of a Killer Kowalski school.
28:33
Yes. Yes, it is.
28:35
Now I'm a person, a person who I just had in the podcast trained
28:39
out of there and became a referee ref Gina.
28:42
Yes. Yeah, yeah, it's who's killing
28:45
it on the independent scene. As a referee as a production at
28:49
someone who's booking the IW T v-- tag team championship
28:52
tournament. Yeah.
28:53
Yeah. It's, I love it there
28:56
everywhere. I've been has been phenomenal,
28:58
and I've learned so many different things.
29:01
How close you are? How close are you up there in
29:03
Connecticut to going to like Beyond and stuff?
29:06
Beyond, I'm about an hour and a half.
29:08
I I was looking at the bucket list promotion to go hang out
29:11
at. That's that they have a lot.
29:13
They booked good talent and good shows.
29:15
Yeah, like I'm close friends with a lot of, a lot of those
29:18
guys like a lot of guys who go up there and it's there's so
29:24
much talent and you know, I want to I want to get up there.
29:28
It just go and be seen. Yeah, I was planning on going up
29:32
with then I needed to get my appendix removed.
29:34
So, you know, that put a halt and everything and I'm just
29:36
yapping up this building the strength back up, you know,
29:40
physically and stuff. So yeah, yeah.
29:43
So All these years, just grind and do whatever.
29:46
Actually one more question, what your training?
29:48
Yeah. What is, what is training with
29:49
Alpha Junior like It's a lot of cardio like it's a lot of of you
29:56
know, just you're going to be drenched in Sweat by the end of
30:00
it. And that's just the Simone way
30:02
baby, you know, like they make sure your dry heaving and but,
30:07
you know, once you when you're dry heaving, you you feel that?
30:10
Like, man, I put in so much work just now and you forget rewarded
30:14
because, you know, you're built to the point where you feel like
30:19
you can't continue, but you're able to continue.
30:21
In further and it's a very cool thing to, you know, think man,
30:26
you know, I can't breathe, you know, I'm, you know, like like
30:30
I'm out of it right now and then just being like, you know what I
30:33
got. I got an extra life in me right
30:34
now and and having that when you go inside a ring is so
30:38
important. Because you get blown up quick,
30:42
you get blown up quick. And so for people who don't
30:46
know, if you're listening to this interview, the term blowing
30:48
up means. Just your you can't, your loss,
30:50
your breath, you're exhausted. It's hard.
30:52
You're trying to. You're trying to regain yourself
30:53
real quick cause you're you're it's almost like yours.
30:56
Like if that's what it's like, if you're playing football and
30:58
you have that quick sear like a long Series in a game and you're
31:01
just go to the sideline and you feel like you have no air in
31:03
your lungs and your yeah, imagine doing that in front of
31:06
people when you're putting on performance and yet the roll out
31:08
of the ring, you're like please come back.
31:09
Please come back, please come back.
31:10
I still have eight minutes to go.
31:13
Yeah, yeah. It's it's, it's been a lot of
31:17
fun. I got, I think everywhere.
31:19
I've trained is giving me different things.
31:21
Like Tommy gave me so much. I feel like a lot of techniques
31:25
and he also helped me with with stuff like, you know, Moon salts
31:28
and stuff. Because, you know, as you jack
31:31
this, he is doing Phoenix splashes like these like
31:35
Tommy's. The guy has a lot of very
31:38
athletic, you know, awful was helping me just kind of build up
31:41
my strength, you know, build my conditioning, just all that.
31:45
And now a test of strength is a lot of also just technique at
31:49
and it's just, everything's helped me so much.
31:51
Like just having so many different walks of lives just
31:55
like come to like, you know, like they say a community
31:57
builds, a person. And I think all these different
32:00
places is really helped me become the wrestler.
32:03
I am now and you're the it's crazy or saying it like this and
32:06
you're freaking 18 years old. It's that's so crazy to me.
32:12
I really want to, I really want to hammer that point home.
32:14
If you're listening that this kid has a resume and he
32:17
literally just had his first couple matches this year and
32:20
just his entering time is Easy. And he's 18 years old 18.
32:25
I can't wait for when we look back in this podcast and five to
32:28
six years and people like, you know, this kids on a w.
32:31
And here he is sitting there with his, is his 70s porn,
32:36
curtains and pillow, you know what I mean, man?
32:42
But yeah. So let's get through that moment
32:47
where they say, Hey, listen Nolan the show, you're Going out
32:52
there. Yeah.
32:54
Walk us through that. How did you find out?
32:56
When did you learn that? You learn leading up to the
32:58
show. Did you find out the night of
33:00
how did this go ahead of this process work?
33:03
I had actually known for months in advance, because this was
33:06
kind of, they were like they want they were waiting like a,
33:11
we're counting down the every show.
33:13
Whenever I saw a person like popo Anthony, I was just like
33:17
four months, four months. And then and then the like I saw
33:23
It was on my birthday funny enough?
33:26
I don't know. I realized I saw the graphic.
33:28
No, a tourist in theory and I was like, there it is, that's
33:32
the match, we got the match it out, and it was, it was like, it
33:37
was such a great moment. Like I had my grandparents
33:41
there, I had my best friends from New Jersey, Connecticut all
33:45
just coming together, like my, you know, my family's all.
33:48
They're wearing the whole a shirts that we got made.
33:52
It was It was such a like a beautiful moment and so many
33:58
people came to my, like, just to watch like, like Alpha had just
34:02
wrestled and he walks past the curtain and stands by the door
34:06
to watch the match, like, huh. Like, you know, he wanted and it
34:09
was just so many people, just had my back and it was just such
34:14
a great moment. Like, I'll be man enough to say
34:17
it after the match I had. I was overcome with emotion,
34:21
like, like I was just walking around in Back.
34:24
Just like this, like, you fork and I broke down.
34:30
Like it was, it was that and less, that's not not being man
34:34
enough to show emotion, that means, you care, that means it
34:37
means something to you. You know what I mean?
34:39
That's that's that's, that's a good emotion to have.
34:42
If you're not feeling that way then that you didn't, are you in
34:45
the right thing? You know, I mean, if you, if you
34:47
don't look and see your first step of many and, and don't get
34:52
a little emotional about it, Like or their size.
34:54
I have an episode and I close it out and I sit there and I don't
34:58
get full emotional. But I said there go that was a
35:00
good one. That was one that I'll remember
35:01
for a while. You know what I mean?
35:03
That's good to have those feelings.
35:05
Ya know. Those feelings like those are so
35:07
important because, you know, I leading up to the match, I I was
35:12
on late on the show, I was like the co-main event and leading up
35:16
to it. I first, I didn't feel anything.
35:18
I was like, I'm ready for this and then the show goes on.
35:22
I see people like match one's done.
35:23
Unmatched, choose done. And I'm like, man, am I made for
35:27
this like, his damn? I made for this, and I'm just
35:29
questioning myself like then. Once I'm in, I'm in, I'm in
35:34
backstage, position of smacking myself in the face.
35:37
I'm God, like, I'm winning the, you know, like I went crazy
35:41
right before I walked out and rest soon as I walked through
35:45
the curtain, I screamed and the Yeah, it was it was a great
35:51
moment. It was everything you know just
35:54
being able to be emotionally raw in a moment like that is very
35:58
important and I'm lucky enough to be super comfortable at ppw
36:03
to where I can. I'm sitting in the locker room
36:06
just like like like you know like this the work The Works
36:11
worth it, you know. Yeah just it's important.
36:15
You know, that was a very important thing.
36:17
I love that that that is a that is about as beautiful as you're
36:20
going to get it here in. Astoria Professor.
36:22
I don't even care if you listen to this podcast and you're not a
36:24
pro wrestling fan. That is that is that is
36:27
inspirational. That is that you could be in any
36:30
industry any field, Any Dream, any passion?
36:32
That's that's dope man. I'm I'm glad you shared that
36:35
with me. I appreciate it.
36:37
So, so going forward, I can't really talk too much about, you
36:41
know, accomplishments because you only have a handful of
36:43
matches, right? But what are some guy I know we
36:46
talked about. You said, you want to experience
36:47
new promotions, you want to experience new schools and kind
36:51
of well make yourself well round it.
36:53
What are some other things that are on your bucket list right
36:55
now? Maybe not even just wrestling
36:57
wise, maybe just personal wise or things.
37:00
You want to kind of get it, get it, get it done.
37:02
Yeah, my goal for wrestling it. Like, in the end, is I would, I
37:10
love Japan. I love Japanese wrestling knife.
37:13
I love the fans that are just able to immerse themselves fully
37:17
and wrestling to the Rost extent.
37:19
And so that's a huge thing for me right now.
37:22
I just I just want to build up a resume like I want to have more
37:25
matches that I can send to people and just be like, look,
37:28
you know, here's my move said, you know, I just have More stuff
37:33
like that. And I have, you know, I being
37:36
being hurt. I haven't been able to but, you
37:38
know, I'm back now. I just want to, I want to be
37:41
able to show off my moves more. I want to, I want to wow, people
37:44
a little bit like a, you know, I'd show them.
37:47
I'm very technically sound, I'm confident in what I have and,
37:51
and just having more matches that I, that I want to be proud
37:55
of, you know, I think that's so important.
37:58
And, you know, I as I gained confidence when I wrestle, it's
38:02
Just building up more reps, more reps more reps and get right now
38:08
you know I love to get some gold on me.
38:12
Don't don't necessarily care where what you know there's a
38:17
lot of different things I'd like to accomplish and just being so
38:22
fresh. There isn't like a you know like
38:25
I want to be world champion now, I just want to experience
38:28
wrestling whole bit more. I want to I want to see what
38:31
it's like in other places. Has like it's, you know, I'm
38:35
just, I'm looking at the at the business with wide eyes right
38:38
now and I'm excited to explore it even more.
38:42
Now, when you go to a wrestling school and they're teaching you,
38:45
obviously wrestling stuff, right?
38:47
Have you ever thought of maybe Crossing that into taking, like
38:50
boxing or kickboxing lesson? So you can work on your
38:52
striking, work on ground game. Learn learn actual like
38:55
Greco-Roman wrestling or stuff like that.
38:57
Are you mixing? That is that something you want
38:59
to mix into your training to trying to make yourself even
39:01
more well-rounded? Is that, is that Things on your
39:03
radar as well is that things that wrestling schools are now
39:05
adding to their resumes to make you better actually do take muy
39:09
Thai and Brazilian jiu-jitsu. I love.
39:14
Of MMA. I'm a huge fan of MMA.
39:17
So I was kind of like, man, there's anything that can help
39:20
me in wrestling. I'm going to do it.
39:22
And I also just really like muy Thai, Brazilian jiu-jitsu stuff
39:26
like that, I just find it so interesting.
39:28
And I like breaking down like how to take down somebody, you
39:32
know, like because like it's a simple as this.
39:35
Like, you can take somebody down and and just, I also like, I'm
39:39
huge on striking. Like I like, I like getting
39:43
shops as we Weird as that is chopping.
39:46
Mira like sad. Don't tell South Philly?
39:49
They I mean they already know at this point like that.
39:52
But yeah I just stuff like that. I'm super big on and I like I
39:58
keep improving and you know, I would be a cool faster to your
40:01
character like people think see you and they think you're going
40:04
to be flying around jumping doing all the high fly stuff but
40:06
like that's not easy on your body.
40:08
After years. If you can stand up and maybe,
40:10
maybe add that kickboxing, where you're doing the leg strikes?
40:12
Were you looking for the single leg where you're pulling?
40:14
A Thai clinch where you have people in the corner, you have
40:16
that long frame and that tallness you can you can throw
40:19
those knees and and incorporate that into your wrestling style.
40:22
I think I'd be kind of dope. Yeah yes like that's like that's
40:26
my style like I love Kyle O'Reilly for example huh?
40:30
It's Bryan. Danielson.
40:31
Who everybody loves, bro? One of the coolest seminars I
40:34
got to experience. I like to show up to shows a
40:36
little earlier supposed to the seminar.
40:38
I'm not going to get anything out of the seminar.
40:39
I'm not stepping in there. I like you don't.
40:41
I mean, but hearing what talents say to you guys?
40:44
Is super fascinating to me, and it motivates me.
40:46
But one of the coolest seminars, I got to sit there and really
40:49
really dissect that. I thought I don't, I'm not sure
40:51
if you were in this one or not but was when Davey Richards was
40:54
that ppw and he did that seminar where he was legit teaching
40:57
people like, hey this is how you snap a kneecap but this is how
41:01
you do it in a wrestling match and not hurt somebody.
41:03
But if someone's got a little crazy, just do this, do that and
41:07
they'll slow down real quick. I was like this is a cool class.
41:14
He's been one of my favorites for a long time.
41:16
You know. Like that was one of the first
41:18
like, Indie names. I really kind of got into.
41:21
It was like, oh my God, like this guy.
41:23
Like, you know, just so sharp with everything like yeah, he's
41:28
unbelievable, Jane Lee. Jay Lethal had a really good
41:30
seminar. Brian Kendrick had a good
41:32
seminar this year. Doc Gallo seminar would like
41:35
Dock. Ellis seminar was like if you if
41:37
if he was legit therefore we he's treated it like a WWE's.
41:41
Tryout. Yeah.
41:42
Like I thought that was really good.
41:44
Yeah, I was not able to attend that one.
41:48
I think that's when I got my wisdom teeth removed.
41:50
So yeah, that one was crazy because everybody was in the
41:53
ring training and he's like yo, everyone shirts off.
41:56
And everyone's like oh and not everybody that ring was
41:59
comfortable taking their shirt off.
42:00
He goes this part of the game baby.
42:02
You got to be. They want a body guy.
42:05
Yeah. Because a lot of people are just
42:08
like and they looked over at off and I was like, take your shirts
42:11
off, you know what I mean? Like it was, it was Yeah it was
42:15
it was cool man. I love experience in that kind
42:18
of stuff. Yeah man.
42:20
So besides being completely obsessed with wrestling and and
42:24
being this deep into a career without even having that many
42:27
matches. What are some other things that
42:28
you do on the side, they keep you entertained or keep you keep
42:32
you going? Yeah, I love hockey.
42:35
Hockey's a big part of my life. Yeah, I'm a big New York
42:40
Islanders fan. That's because vsk.
42:44
Yeah, I know. I talk all that crap and where
43:14
Washington fans and then only playing Washington, there in
43:17
Maryland. A stadium that's falling apart.
43:23
So hopefully if this owner gets out of, if we can get him out
43:27
they pretty much said they'll put a stadium where RFK was but
43:31
they're not doing with Dan Snyder as the owner.
43:33
Yeah. Taking two losses in a row and
43:40
we're still statistically in the playoff hunt.
43:42
What? Just, yeah, I'm just nervous
43:44
that they're going to roll with Carson.
43:46
The last three games. See, we has.
43:47
And I and I don't want that. No.
43:51
Hi Nick, he's been our guy. You know what are X RX F l--
43:55
quarterback baby you know the heart the guy has grit and heart
43:58
man. I I don't care if we lose by 40,
44:00
if he's out there. I still have faith in them.
44:02
Oh yeah, I'm just happy, he's there.
44:04
Yeah. He's one of those players that
44:08
you just love his story. You know, like like wrestling.
44:11
Like I feel like he is a great story of.
44:13
Yeah, absolutely. Just so many people.
44:17
I like, I love hearing stories like that.
44:20
Yeah. Just but that's why I said any
44:22
industry man when people have that motivation and they have
44:24
that that like like for me I can literally scroll on Facebook and
44:30
there's like people I follow and I like have highlighted the see
44:33
their stuff first because I like their grind.
44:35
I like what they're putting in. I like what they do and and I
44:38
try to field my newsfeed up with people who motivate me to become
44:42
better. I don't want to.
44:43
I don't want to see if you're just posting, like I can't stand
44:46
insert politic this thing. You'll be my friend but I'm not
44:50
look, I can't see. Your stuff because I just when I
44:53
when I turn on my social media, I want to, I want to get myself
44:57
out of a rut and I want to get myself a little bit of an
44:59
escape. And if I follow, all people who
45:01
motivate me and things that I want to see and things, I want
45:03
to consume that, that pushes me to be a better person.
45:06
And and yeah, those type of Stories of the ones.
45:08
I'm always seeking out for ya, like my roommate in Connecticut,
45:14
is, his name is Mark Alexander. He's a wrestler as well over
45:18
here in Connecticut and being we been friends for years and just
45:23
having somebody in like your as a roommate who is also pursuing.
45:26
The same thing you are as such a motivating thing like there's
45:32
sometimes there's days where I'm like man I don't really want to.
45:34
I don't really want to go to the gym.
45:35
You know like everything hurts today.
45:37
I don't want to get up and having a roommate who's there,
45:40
like yo, I'm hitting the gym at 3:00, you know.
45:42
Like let's go and you know, just being able to have that you know
45:47
like it enables healthier eating habits like There's just being
45:53
motivated is so important because it's hard.
45:57
It's hard. It really is like it's almost
46:00
harder than the actual task. You need to motivate yourself
46:03
for and I think that's the challenge.
46:05
Like, people say, like, man, the gym is hard, but the hardest
46:08
part is getting there once you're there and you start doing
46:11
it, that's easy. Yeah.
46:13
Oh yeah. Note and then you're sore and
46:15
then it's that motivation again to get back there.
46:17
The next day. Yeah, that's really all it is.
46:21
It's it weren't an age where your mind works in so many
46:25
different ways. Like, like I have crazy ADI,
46:28
like I have ADHD, I have, you know, and so my mind is always
46:33
in two different places and I it's it's so interesting to
46:40
like, try to focus on one thing is and I think it's similar for
46:46
everybody where you want to focus on something and you're
46:50
already Be thinking about, what am I going to do later for
46:52
dinner or like and just being able to be like, no, I gotta get
46:55
to the gym like now. Like, we gotta, we gotta
46:57
accomplish what we set out for today, and I struggle with that
47:01
a lot, but, you know, i-i've people who helped keep me in
47:04
place. So it's I struggle that I
47:07
struggle with that, with the pot, like sometimes I'm like,
47:09
man, I don't want to podcast today and then and then I'll
47:11
just like, you know what, just go get it done and then as soon
47:13
as I hit record and I'm sitting in front of this camera, it just
47:15
like it washes over me. Like, all right, I'm in my zone.
47:18
Let's get it done. If anyone has any questions?
47:21
Questions. Please put them in the chat.
47:22
We're coming up to the end here. If there's anything you want to
47:24
get out kind of keep that stored away for, and then we'll get
47:26
that out. But we do have our first one
47:28
from New Generation tvt. I'm not quite sure who that is.
47:31
But thank you for hanging out. I have to go and research your
47:35
channel after we're done here. You're a content creator.
47:37
Please hit me up. I'd love to collaborate.
47:38
But what is the hardest thing about putting a match together?
47:43
I look, it matches very differently.
47:47
I like my favorite stuff is 90s. All Japan with Kenta kobashi
47:52
Misawa and I just love, you know, how hard they're hitting
47:56
each other and it's very different because a lot of them
47:59
match is them on the floor laying down because, you know,
48:03
they're exhausted and I love kind of pudding before we even
48:09
kind of decide how I'm actually going to go.
48:12
I Like kind of thinking. All right, what makes sense
48:15
here? Like like all right.
48:18
I'm a young kid right now. I think it makes sense for me to
48:23
go up against this guy and like he's going to out wrestle me.
48:27
But I have the speed advantage and and you know just putting
48:31
like logical things into like matches.
48:33
I think is so cool like it kind of becomes a science and and
48:38
people don't realize it because you kind of because people are
48:40
like you know, you'll see someone of you Plain about
48:43
wrestling, you know, who's fake, you know, like everything like
48:47
that, you know, they don't like certain stuff, but most people
48:50
do have that science where it's like, you know, they find their
48:54
structure, they find their flow and it's a, I love when I'm
48:59
calling a match on commentary. And that exact same mentality is
49:04
what I'm thinking, how this match should go, but I don't,
49:07
I'm not privy to any of that, you know what I mean?
49:09
So like you go in and you're the high flyer verse, the striker.
49:12
And then he starts chopping your legs out so you can't be as
49:15
quick and I'll say like I'll kind of as a color commentator
49:18
I'm like hey his goal to win, this isn't slowing.
49:21
This is Nolan down, he has heart his termination but he has to
49:24
chop those legs out and then like three minutes into the
49:26
match, you guys have that same idea.
49:28
So you start working the legs, I'm like, well there it is and
49:30
it makes me look like a genius on commentary and then people
49:32
think that we talked beforehand, then we have it and then it gets
49:35
very cohesive. Yeah.
49:37
I love that. And you have to put all that
49:38
together as well as how do I work the crowd?
49:41
Yes. Yes yeah.
49:43
Which I think is becoming a lost art and it needs to come back
49:46
Jericho with excellent Jetty. Absolutely proved.
49:49
You need to work a crowd. Yeah.
49:51
Oh, yeah. Like, they went into it and
49:54
convince the whole crowd. It was going to be a like a,
49:58
like a sweep, you know. Yep.
49:59
Jericho was gonna be action and ready matches goes increasingly
50:05
longer and you're like, hold up and the crowd chanting, I still
50:08
think that Chris Jericho said something to somebody in the
50:11
crowd, like, I'm gonna, I beat this job or because he's known
50:14
for planting stuff in the. He said he's a pro, he knows how
50:17
to put the wedding people, a job or just, you know, I mean and
50:19
then him his just look react when they say let's go job or he
50:22
looks and then like, oh, that got it.
50:24
He reacted to us. Now we all have Channel, you
50:26
know that this small stuff. You know what I mean?
50:29
Speaking of being a Commander's fan, I love this name.
50:32
One of my favorite players of all time, Sean Taylor asks is
50:35
Japan the end goal for you and would you be willing to go
50:38
through the Young Lion system? You know, of course.
50:42
I love New Japan like that's everything so cool about it like
50:48
I would be willing to do anything to really, you know,
50:50
get to one of those promotions and yeah, Japan Z and there's
50:55
there's so many different things I want to accomplish, though.
50:57
I want to, I want to, I really want to grow in the American
51:00
Independent scene because I love how passionate the fans are like
51:05
like I like watching be on shows for example and just seeing you
51:08
know, how into it the fans are and just like the cheese.
51:12
CW. G CW.
51:14
Yes. Like the crazy.
51:16
The fans are so like it feels like close to the ring.
51:19
I mean they physically are as well and and like it just make
51:24
it gives off like a Fight Club 5 like where it's like everybody
51:27
just clamoring and they want to see you do stuff too.
51:30
I love it. When you when you have to fight
51:32
your way through the crowd to get to the ring, I think that's
51:34
a dope. Yeah, I think that's such a cool
51:36
visual. There's nothing better and this
51:40
is why I tell fans all the time. I said, listen don't Come and
51:43
sit on your hands. The more you give the more
51:45
you're going to get you can dictate if a match goes to a 2
51:49
Star 3 star to a 6 star because if you're feeding energy day I
51:54
guarantee you, those pick those talent in the ring guy or girl
51:58
are they are going to give you more than you asked for if you
52:01
feed into them. Oh yeah.
52:03
Like especially it's so it's like you feel like a rush when
52:08
fans are like chanting your name?
52:10
It gives you second wind. I feel a rush on.
52:12
Matera, I'm not even in there. Special.
52:21
Commentary is such an unlike it's such an unsung hero for
52:26
rest. Thank you.
52:27
If I appreciate that because it feels like some places you go,
52:29
they don't care that it's there. Oh yeah.
52:31
No. And like I love going back and
52:34
hearing that how this story is portrayed to different people
52:38
like like hearing how like a commentator if they're almost
52:42
like a narrator because they're trying to describe how the story
52:46
comes to them and how they've you think.
52:48
And that's how I love to look at wrestling to like, I like to
52:51
look at it. From like a this guy and this
52:53
guy haven't really had a match. But like this guy's a
52:56
relationship with this guy and they've had a match and they
52:59
don't like each other and like just stuff.
53:01
You know how hard is when you are when you pride yourself on
53:04
being knowledgeable of other people's work on the independent
53:07
scene and then they're like well you can't mention other
53:09
independent things. It's like you're chopping me
53:11
away here. Like that's yeah, if you are new
53:15
to the YouTube site as a lot of new faces, I've never seen
53:17
before New Generation, Sean, pull pyro, who has our next
53:21
question. Make sure you hit subscribe,
53:22
like I said, we're now five away from 380.
53:25
We could we're closing in on the 400 goal by the end of this
53:29
year. That'd be crazy that you guys
53:30
would literally make my day. If we can hit that 400, but five
53:33
away from 380, that's super sick.
53:35
Full pyro says, this is actually the most interaction questions
53:38
we've had, I think on this show so far, so you guys are killing
53:41
it. Please keep the questions
53:42
coming. What is your number one dream,
53:45
man? So you want to see take place in
53:47
2022, our 2003 are. Now I don't know if he's asking
53:51
that. Matches.
53:52
You want to see as a fan or matches?
53:53
You would love to be a part of that's do both.
53:56
Okay. So It's kind of a wrestler side
54:03
too because I like to I like to just watch and learn stuff from
54:07
wrestling like I'm very excited for will Osprey.
54:12
Versus Kenny omegas coming up and like another few days and
54:16
I'm very excited for that. I think they're both.
54:19
I mean Jesus. Ah but like a like a match I
54:23
could just draw together. Like something would like a
54:25
Bryan. Danielson just send jet.
54:27
Just send Brian to Ryan, Daniel. Been to Japan and just give us
54:30
anything. We get Yeah.
54:38
A anybody and then for me there's there's a lot of people
54:44
I'd really like to work. You know?
54:46
Like I have some of my you know like a like a Maj League vs K is
54:51
1 you know you just made that my must-see match 2020 I want that
54:54
I want that match now. Yeah some other names I'd love
54:58
to I'd love to face a guy like Ichiban who I think is killing
55:03
it on the East Coast right now and he is So talented and will
55:07
be signed very soon. I'm very confident that, you
55:12
know, you do also like to see you work because I think I think
55:16
it'd be a very safe match. I think it'd be a very technical
55:18
match and I think his veteran this in professional wrestling
55:21
in your new upcoming skills. I think would Clash area.
55:23
Well, I think you and Andy header, would be fun in a
55:26
one-on-one match. Of fun.
55:28
Yeah, I've known him for a while now because, you know, he's he's
55:34
established that. He's a guy who can always go to
55:37
to have a very good match and I'm so you're going to be and
55:40
you're gonna be safe and you're going to put a hey and he has
55:42
the Mind state that he's gonna put together something that's
55:44
going to be entertaining. Yeah, yeah, there's so many
55:52
different things I want to do and I'm just going into this
55:56
year with an open mind. Like love that and you know,
55:59
whatever I get thrown into, you know, make the best of it.
56:02
Like, I'm this January, I'm facing Joey Martinez, which is
56:07
what I'm very much looking forward to it.
56:09
That's gonna be good. Yeah, I'm looking forward to
56:12
that. That's he's a fantastic wrestler
56:16
and I think it's going to be a lot of fun.
56:17
So just there's so many things. I was like yeah, it's hard to
56:23
kind of pinpoint certain names because you know, you forget so
56:26
many and Like I could sit here for an hour, just telling you I
56:31
would wrestle this guy like this, you know, like and just
56:35
kind of but you know, nobody wants to hear that like that.
56:38
Nobody wants to hear my Christmas list, you know.
56:40
Yeah, Scott says this is my Australian love right here.
56:44
I love this guy to death but he said, when will I see you on
56:46
Australia? I'm hoping Scott that you don't
56:50
see him in Australia. I'd love for you to go to
56:52
Australia, not saying, I don't want you there, but I want
56:54
Scotch talking about moving the cat Canada and he's a Short it
56:58
where he's moving in Canada, as a short drive over, the Border
57:00
will he'll be right in Pennsylvania.
57:02
So I think you'll see him more in Pennsylvania or Canada than
57:05
you will in Australia. So get that, let's get that
57:07
process moving and get over on us, get away from that nice warm
57:10
weather and go freeze your ass off a Canada.
57:13
Does it ring sizes? What's your yeah?
57:15
What is your favorite New Japan match?
57:16
Another people in the chat saying hello and he said, yes,
57:19
go And so, who's up? You might know him, he's not a
57:31
wrestler, he just helping her out.
57:36
He's been a close friend for a while.
57:38
You know just goes to all the shows and stuff and like hearing
57:41
his stories about the independent scene is so cool to
57:44
me because I'm like I don't know who any of these people are but
57:46
like it's so cool to see like in different content and
57:49
wrestling's. You know like thriving and I'll
57:53
Straley Museum and having a big year this year for their Callum
57:56
getting some. Yeah.
57:57
They opened up like a new Japan School in New Zealand which is
58:02
super cool. To see ya.
58:05
But then going to the my fav your favorite New Japan match.
58:09
Yeah. You know, you're safe.
58:11
Answer is always anything with Omega and okada?
58:15
Yeah, because they've wrestled 138 times.
58:17
Yeah. And they've two hours like yeah,
58:24
we're going to go with It's not it's still popular opinion but
58:29
katsuyori shibata versus kozuszko Kane in the match
58:33
before he split open his own skull.
58:37
That was that was that was a beautiful match.
58:40
Very uncomfortable uncomfortable to see him like struggling to
58:45
walk backstage and like, you see the blood pouring, it's a sight
58:50
but you're like man he he was trying to win back the crowd
58:53
because he betrayed their trust and he did And now he's a
58:57
beloved figure, but I can't wrestle anymore.
59:00
But, you know, beloved character?
59:02
And yeah, no rest actually is beautiful.
59:06
Sam mentioned, says, in the chat.
59:07
What are your goals for 2020? Three?
59:09
I think we kind of got covered that, but if you want to kind of
59:11
highlight that, in case you missed it.
59:14
Yeah, I just, I just want to explore wrestling more.
59:18
I want to go. I want to go to different states
59:21
and wrestle. I want to, I want to, I want to
59:23
explore more to New Jersey. New Jersey is a blast.
59:25
You gotta go. At the Jersey.
59:27
Oh, I have such a good time in Jersey.
59:29
Chad, if you're listening, get this kid in Jersey.
59:37
You know, just, I'd like to go out to Long Island just because
59:40
we're, it's where I grew up and I haven't been there in a long
59:42
time. If I ever ever empty seat in the
59:44
car and you want to come to Jersey, I'll let me know.
59:46
Jump in with me. Let's do it.
59:56
There's times where I'm going to car ride for 4 hours of Jersey
59:59
with like Philly Mike or Pete along and we never turn the
1:00:02
radio on. It's a conversation.
1:00:04
The hallway there. I love it.
1:00:05
I fucking love it. They probably hate me because
1:00:07
all I do is want to talk, but that's enough.
1:00:10
Yeah, I'm just like that. It's bad.
1:00:12
I'm sure people get it. Because same have snow tires.
1:00:18
So I'm normally like you're driving and you know, all I do
1:00:24
is like a talk and, you know, they're like man, I could we not
1:00:28
talk about wrestling for like 5 minutes.
1:00:30
Like I'm kind of like some Japan matches in the chat.
1:00:36
Danielson carrying Tata Hitachi. Danielson okada verse 9.
1:00:41
I do. Lisa.
1:00:42
Osborne says, hey everybody in the chat versed on Aha.
1:00:45
She how do you feel you and Trevor Cog a compliment?
1:00:48
One. Another is your chemistry as
1:00:50
easy as it looks or does it take?
1:00:51
Countless reps. Will countless reps are somewhat
1:00:54
you guys train together, so maybe the refs are there, but
1:00:56
nine times in 10, 12 Tag Team guys are paired together.
1:00:59
It's like don't even talk to each other after this.
1:01:02
Yeah, it's tag team wrestling. So interesting and, and I've
1:01:07
really enjoyed it so far. It's and teeming with, that's
1:01:13
been a lot of fun because we're very different people.
1:01:16
And so it's cool to kind of work with somebody who's different
1:01:20
than you. And you kind of, you kind of
1:01:23
learn how different people view wrestling and you kind of come
1:01:27
to an understanding and you're like, all right, I want to do
1:01:29
these things and you want to do these things.
1:01:31
So let's kind of get what we can out of it to make it the best
1:01:34
possible thing. And that's been a lot of fun.
1:01:38
I like when wrestling isn't just Buddy agreeing.
1:01:41
I like, when there's more challenge to it because when you
1:01:44
have people who have different views, it becomes fantastic.
1:01:49
I think like, yeah, like they're some of the best matches are
1:01:53
people with very different styles, you know, working
1:01:55
together like absolutely Lesnar versus Daniel Bryan, Brock
1:01:59
Lesnar vs AJ Styles, some really good matches and like, you know,
1:02:05
Brock is not a wrestler like AJ Styles is so it's, it's
1:02:09
wrestling so much. I'll tell you what man 2022.
1:02:12
Put Brock Lesnar in a whole new light for me.
1:02:14
Yeah, he's the guy that like you, let you go back and look at
1:02:17
everything. You're like, dude, he's one of
1:02:19
the greatest of all time. Yeah, yeah.
1:02:21
Like yeah, you don't appreciate him.
1:02:24
I feel like for a while like where it was like he was kind of
1:02:28
booked in a very interesting light but then you look at your
1:02:31
like he was booked exactly how he should have been booked, you
1:02:34
know? I mean like you kind of look
1:02:35
back at everything like it was fucking perfect.
1:02:37
Yeah. It wasn't very known at the time
1:02:43
it was like he was one of the last big names and he this is my
1:02:48
take and it's may be controversial but he is
1:02:51
everything they wanted Andre to be but in modern day time I
1:02:55
think he eclipsed Andre was very tall, had a very distinct look,
1:03:00
but Brock Lesnar will. It's we will probably never have
1:03:03
another Brock Lesnar again and I think his body of work surpasses
1:03:07
Andres. Yeah.
1:03:08
Because Brock Lesnar was and his I was bigger than Andres, we
1:03:12
knew bra. Rock.
1:03:18
And then when he came back to wrestling and like you're like,
1:03:20
oh my God, this guy is jacked up, like ready?
1:03:23
Yeah, everyone's crazy. He's a, he's he way always throw
1:03:27
around Wonders of the World. Brock Lesnar's one of those
1:03:30
wanders. Like, he's not, you don't see
1:03:33
people like that, but we have one last question here.
1:03:36
We'll wrap this up. My second question is, if you
1:03:39
were offered to take part that w, we try out.
1:03:40
Would you? Of course he would?
1:03:43
Yeah. No, I'm staying home.
1:03:47
I like when people ask, what would you rather go?
1:03:49
Aww be. It's like whoever takes me.
1:03:53
I will go anywhere. Yeah, if you let me live out my
1:03:58
dream, I'll go. Yeah, exactly.
1:04:02
Yep, it's intense. But I with the training I've had
1:04:09
I've learned a lot about the W tryouts, like I've learned a lot
1:04:12
of I pretty much. I feel like learned almost
1:04:15
everything that they do at it. Whe try out out and which has
1:04:18
been very interesting because it kind of, you know, prepared me
1:04:21
for what they're looking for and you would be a perfect fit for
1:04:24
extra work, like Leo Sparrow because he's a small tiny guy
1:04:28
has just been getting tossed all over the world this year.
1:04:31
I every big guy in wrestling. You would be a dream fit for
1:04:34
extra work. Do whatever, they give you a
1:04:37
nice paycheck for those 200. Hopefully I hope Leo got a
1:04:41
couple extra bucks when Warlow put him through a steel cage.
1:04:46
Oh that was that was like he went like down the ringside.
1:04:49
Yeah, he disappeared and then a couple weeks later he got beat
1:04:55
up by almost like yeah. Yeah, the stuff.
1:04:58
Like it's always so cool to see people, you know, on TV and
1:05:01
you're like, if you want to hear good kind of call back to
1:05:04
another episode, if you go back to the Luke, Is finding an
1:05:06
interview. He did extra work.
1:05:08
Twice under TV and both times involved Brock Lesnar and their
1:05:12
Amazing Stories. Yeah, that's awesome.
1:05:16
Is there anything you want to get out there?
1:05:17
Before we wrap up that we didn't talk about I'm just glad we got
1:05:23
to talk about wrestling, you know?
1:05:25
Like Just I really appreciate everybody supporting me these
1:05:30
this past few months, you know, like this has been everything.
1:05:33
I've wanted it to be, you know, being able to come on a podcast
1:05:36
like this with you. It's just so awesome and I've
1:05:40
really been introduced to so many great people through
1:05:43
wrestling and I can't just say enough good things about
1:05:46
everything, that's happened. This so far this year.
1:05:48
Like, you know, it's it's been an interesting year and but you
1:05:52
know I it really helps you realize how much you love I like
1:05:58
going through injury and stuff. It helped me realize how much I
1:06:00
love wrestling and how much I love the people that surround
1:06:03
wrestling and how important it is to me and like I lose my
1:06:06
sanity without it, you know? But, yeah.
1:06:08
No. I I'm just very thankful to be
1:06:11
on this podcast. You know, I'm thankful for
1:06:13
everybody who's been super supportive and kind so far.
1:06:16
Well, we're all thanks for the hard work.
1:06:18
You put in to get here to your first couple of matches here in
1:06:22
2022. You have a very, very bright
1:06:24
future. I try to pride myself on having
1:06:27
Having my thumb on the pulse of independent wrestling and I love
1:06:30
to give people that platform. So people around the country can
1:06:33
hear it. Like I said before, I got a
1:06:35
chance to meet Bill Abner and he was the guy who kind of showed
1:06:38
the North and the South who was the top guys in each area
1:06:40
because of his magazine. And if I can do that with this
1:06:43
podcast and showcasing not just wrestling talent but music and
1:06:47
movie and like this podcast is open anybody.
1:06:50
You don't have to be a wrestler or preview per person in the
1:06:52
wrestling business, be on it, but just because I'm very
1:06:54
immersed in the wrestling culture, you're going to get a
1:06:56
lot of wrestling interviews. But there's going to be a lot of
1:06:58
young talent that you're going to see in the next couple months
1:07:00
and in the past episodes that that I have, I have faith in, I
1:07:03
think they're good people and I think that beginning journey is
1:07:07
fun to have because I'm telling you, you're going to look back
1:07:10
at December 27. 2022, in 45 years, in order to be like, yo,
1:07:15
I remember watching him on a podcast and 13 people were in
1:07:20
their lives, and now this kids killing it.
1:07:22
Like his determination, his hard work, his work ethic, his Drive
1:07:27
is Bar None. And I'm telling you if you're
1:07:29
not from the northeast PA area, people from Australia, watch
1:07:32
people from Canada watching, they're gonna know who you are
1:07:35
in the next five to ten years man because of how dedicated and
1:07:38
had that how passionate you are please.
1:07:42
I ask all of you in the chat. Once again, to go to the links
1:07:45
below, his links are there is Instagram, is YouTube, follow
1:07:49
him. He is someone, You're Gonna Want
1:07:51
to mark down and continued his journey with him.
1:07:54
Show him that support getting those comment threads.
1:07:57
I say hey man. Keep grinding like become a fan
1:08:00
of this kid. You know what I mean?
1:08:01
So I'm telling you you're going to want to jump on this train
1:08:04
now. It don't wait until it already
1:08:06
happened. Alright let's let's take a peek
1:08:15
real quick. We are at Now, it's not showing
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377. Okay, 377.
1:08:24
I appreciate. If you guys all share this out,
1:08:27
just be like hey go check out this channel.
1:08:29
There's a lot of new content coming very soon. 2023 and bring
1:08:32
him back beer reviews. I'm going to do some going to go
1:08:34
to breweries. I'm gonna go to dive bars.
1:08:36
I'm gonna go to distilleries and just kind of fill myself having
1:08:39
an experience. They're reviewing some product
1:08:41
and coming back and edit it and put it out for you guys.
1:08:44
We're doing movie comic books TV music reviews coming up very
1:08:48
soon. They won't be podcast.
1:08:50
Just be live streams on the channel.
1:08:52
I'm doing, I'm bringing back me. And my wife talking about horror
1:08:55
movies, so we're going to watch a horror movie and talk about it
1:08:57
with me. And my wife, tons, more podcast
1:09:00
interviews coming. I'm gonna, I know I sucked at it
1:09:03
last year, but I'm going to bring back the Vlog.
1:09:05
So, when I go to shows, I'm going to do a vlog in my travels
1:09:08
and my experience that wrestling show.
1:09:09
So, I thought they were fun. I just got to get over that
1:09:11
mental. Hump of just pulling the camera
1:09:13
out and filming because I think it, I don't want to be that big
1:09:16
not just that person, I don't know.
1:09:18
It makes me weird. Also, what else is coming to the
1:09:21
channel? There's something else I'm
1:09:22
forgetting, I don't remember. But tons of great.
1:09:25
Come contents coming. I have the entire month of
1:09:28
January, booked. If you want to get on, please
1:09:30
get hit me up soon because like I said, it is filling up quick
1:09:33
and I'd love to talk to more people, that's going to do it
1:09:36
for episode 12. Thank you all so much.
1:09:39
Like I said, for an amazing 2022 starting over, it's been crazy
1:09:44
but the fact that I, we almost hit 400 subscribers in a three
1:09:48
month window. Is all because of your all
1:09:51
support. And if you just found this
1:09:52
channel, stick with me, man. I have a lot of cool things.
1:09:55
Follow me on all social media Anthony, Blackwell jr.
1:09:58
Links are below. We have an amazing Discord that
1:10:01
you can join. I think we're close to 100
1:10:03
people in the Discord, and that's just a place.
1:10:05
We do video chats. We do live conferences.
1:10:07
We do a lot of cool things in there.
1:10:09
We don't just talk wrestling. Everything's good to go.
1:10:13
There's a lot of fun stuff, man. I'm trying to, I want to build a
1:10:15
community, just a people of like-minded people who are going
1:10:18
to support one another. So, Let's keep bringing that
1:10:21
positivity out. But without further Ado, we're
1:10:23
going to play some outro music by my boy, Billy tray, the
1:10:25
converse kid will see you guys next year on The ABJ podcast.
1:10:29
I love you all.