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Commentator paints pictures for visually impaired Deby fans · Drive with John Perlman

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  Speaker 1: John Perlman on 702.
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  Speaker 2: 3 to 6 p.m. Well, all sorts of wonderful things
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  Speaker 2: happen in a packed football stadium. They happen in especially
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  Speaker 2: wonderful ways when it is the Soweto Derby between Chiefs
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  Speaker 2: and Pirates. Somewhere in the stands on Saturday, this was
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  Speaker 2: going on.
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  Speaker 1: Just enough alone it come on up with me come
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  Speaker 1: on up come on up.
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  Speaker 2: That is the sound of the man who is my
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  Speaker 2: new guest. He is Camogello, Kamza the commentator, Signolo. And
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  Speaker 2: just for perspective, if you weren't here earlier when I
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  Speaker 2: spoke about it briefly, Kamza was not sitting in a
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  Speaker 2: commentator's booth. Kamza was not sitting in the press box.
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  Speaker 2: Kamza was sitting in the stands with three visually impaired
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  Speaker 2: football fans to whom he was committed to. to bring
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  Speaker 2: to life the Soweto Derby in all its audio and
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  Speaker 2: sensory magnificence. And he joins us now. Welcome to 702 Drive.
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  Speaker 2: You did an absolutely wonderful thing at the Derby on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: It's part of a bigger mission that you have. Tell
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  Speaker 2: us why you did it and tell us why you
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  Speaker 2: want to keep doing this. Good afternoon to you.
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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon to you, Sean. Thank you so much for
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  Speaker 1: having me. I really appreciate for the invite. Let me
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  Speaker 1: take my gratitude to the Most High Court and all
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  Speaker 1: people who have been showing me support throughout this initiative.
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  Speaker 1: I would say the likes of Amafenwe too and the
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  Speaker 1: likes of Mr. Motao and many more. They've really made
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  Speaker 1: this possible. because without the likes of Amafen Wetu, it
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  Speaker 1: was not going to be easy for me to trend
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  Speaker 1: the way it is. So I take all the credit
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  Speaker 1: to the Most High God and Amafen Wetu together with Mr. Mutiao.
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  Speaker 1: And in terms of where I want to see this
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  Speaker 1: thing going, I would like to see this thing going
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  Speaker 1: forward in such a way that we get a professional
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  Speaker 1: platform and the support from all the citizens of South
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  Speaker 1: Africa to keep this thing moving because I believe in
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  Speaker 1: inclusivity and whereby people who are living with different abilities,
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  Speaker 1: they shouldn't have a barrier to associate or to meet
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  Speaker 1: or to gather with other people. You understand? So I
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  Speaker 1: think that is what drives me most. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a situation. There are three football fans, visually impaired,
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  Speaker 2: Muzikaiise Goumede, Theophilus Maholo, and Mlungisi Chabalala. How did they
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  Speaker 2: connect with you? You spoke about, I'm a fan swear to,
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  Speaker 2: presumably that's the organization that puts you together. But how
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  Speaker 2: did you meet up with these three guys?
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  Speaker 1: When I got employed at Southwest Houthi College, I found
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  Speaker 1: that the three students, together with, there is a lot
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  Speaker 1: of them, in fact, however, the three are the ones
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  Speaker 1: who showed support over this initiative. So when I was
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  Speaker 1: working there from 2021, currently I'm also working at Southwest Houthi.
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  Speaker 1: So my office, I work in the office called Student
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  Speaker 1: Support Office, whereby we deal with students and I had
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  Speaker 1: to chat with them so many times. And then when
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  Speaker 1: we were chatting, it happened that they sparked my interest
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  Speaker 1: in such a way that the way they analyze life,
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  Speaker 1: the way they analyze football, it was amazing. So when
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  Speaker 1: I was doing my own comparison, so when I was,
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  Speaker 1: Comparing their analysis to compare to the people who have
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  Speaker 1: full sight, I was like, no, man, this is waste.
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  Speaker 1: They need to get exposure. So it's not all about
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  Speaker 1: me doing commentary. They are also sharing very profound and
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  Speaker 1: unbelievable commentary. So I was like, look, guys, let's go
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  Speaker 1: to stadium. And let's see what's going to happen because
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  Speaker 1: you see opportunities that are limited for people with disabilities. Right.
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  Speaker 1: But with your capability, I believe something will come up. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's absolutely amazing. Now, take us into the stadium
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  Speaker 2: with you, Kamsa. There's a lot of noise going on
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  Speaker 2: around you. I know you had your technical support, and
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  Speaker 2: let's give credit to Sibusiso Nomalo, I believe, connecting up
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  Speaker 2: the audio system. Was it difficult for them to hear
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  Speaker 2: you and for you to concentrate on what you were
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  Speaker 2: doing with, what, 90,000 people going crazy around you?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it has been a challenge. It has
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  Speaker 1: been a challenge, truly speaking, because Mr. Subusiso Numalo deserves
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  Speaker 1: credit also because he has been seeing us at the
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  Speaker 1: stadium so many times. And when he approached me, he
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  Speaker 1: was like, I liked the consistency. We were going to
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  Speaker 1: stadium without equipment until we meet Mr. Subusiso Numalo. He's
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  Speaker 1: the one who came up with his own equipment. to
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  Speaker 1: give us so that it can be easy for my
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  Speaker 1: three guys to be able to hear me because without
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  Speaker 1: those equipment, it was difficult. Sometimes when it's halftime, my
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  Speaker 1: voice is no longer audible because I'm trying to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that everyone must hear me. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And what about getting into the stadium? Because you're dealing
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  Speaker 2: with people who are visually impaired. There's four or five
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  Speaker 2: of you together. It's a crowded stadium. And as I
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  Speaker 2: understand it, no special arrangements made for you. Was that
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  Speaker 2: a tricky part of things as well?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely. Look, I will be honest with you. It
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  Speaker 1: is always difficult to access the stadium. However, sometime last year,
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  Speaker 1: Kaiser Chiefs, they saw the documentary that was done by
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  Speaker 1: Amafenwe too. They called us and then they promised and
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  Speaker 1: they are also doing it. that whenever they are hosting
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  Speaker 1: a league game, they give us tickets. So they give
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  Speaker 1: us complimentary tickets. And again, when we go to Loftus Festival,
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  Speaker 1: there is a designated area whereby people who are living
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  Speaker 1: with disabilities, they sit there. So when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: entering the stadium, it is always difficult because most people,
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  Speaker 1: they don't care. They don't care, you know. I remember
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  Speaker 1: this at the time, the Soweto Derby that recently... took place.
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  Speaker 1: We were supposed to go to gate H. The person
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  Speaker 1: who bought ticket for us was stuck in gate H
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  Speaker 1: and we were in gate M. So we tried to
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  Speaker 1: ask the security officers, can you please just give us
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  Speaker 1: a way to gate H and then somebody to escort us.
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  Speaker 1: We won't sneak to the stadium. There are somebody who's
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  Speaker 1: stuck with our tickets. And then, truly speaking, it was difficult.
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  Speaker 1: We had a very long way to get access to
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  Speaker 1: the stadium. It is always a challenge to us.
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  Speaker 2: Well, listen, many, many congratulations. And the very best wishes
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  Speaker 2: come from the commentator, Sipu Siso Ngumalo, stepping up to
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  Speaker 2: provide technical support. Our fans, where to are involved, Kaiser
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  Speaker 2: Chiefs and Sundowns, it seems are stepping up. And it's
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  Speaker 2: a brilliant thing that they're doing. I'll talk a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more later in the show about my own experience
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  Speaker 2: in the UK of facilities for visually impaired football fans.
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  Speaker 2: They've done some great things in English clubs as well
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  Speaker 2: over many, many years. Later for that, this is 702 Drive.