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F-15 Down, Fatal Poisonings, Fleming on Good Friday · Rich Valdés: This is America!

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Speaker 1: This is America with Rich Valdez, powered by politweek dot.
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Speaker 2: Com and Rich Valdes is with US former Christian administration officials.
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Speaker 2: You worked at Chris Christie in policies and a lot
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Speaker 3: Rich Valdez columnists now with the Washington Times.
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Speaker 4: This is America, ritchiev.
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Speaker 5: You're on the air with the Nation of the Nation
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Speaker 5: with America.
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Speaker 4: With your host, Rich Valdez.
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Speaker 3: What's up, America. I am Rich Valdez, Valdezza with an
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Speaker 3: Honored and blessed to be here with each and every
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Speaker 3: one of you, seventeen blocks from Madison Square Garden here
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Speaker 3: in New York City at our Times Square Studios. It
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Speaker 3: is good Friday, and lots to discuss, some good, some
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Speaker 3: not so good. We're getting reports of an F fifteen
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Speaker 3: that has crashed. It is down. The pilots are being rescued.
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Speaker 3: I understand we may have already retrieved one of the two.
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Speaker 3: One is still on the loose, if you will, you know,
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Speaker 3: missing Mia and lots to discuss. We're going to get
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Speaker 3: to a report on that right now from the Fox News.
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Speaker 6: Channel, Britney News coming into Fox News Channel. The President
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Speaker 6: has now been briefed on a down to F fifteen
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Speaker 6: fighter jet in Iran.
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Speaker 5: This is a US fighter jet.
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Speaker 6: We are also told a statement from Sencom is expected shortly.
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Speaker 6: We want to bring in the Chief National Security correspondent,
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Speaker 6: Jennifer Griffin with more on this.
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Speaker 5: Jen what are you hearing well?
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Speaker 7: Trace, We had some details of this alleged down F
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Speaker 7: fifteen E fighter jet that went down in southwest Iran.
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Speaker 7: It's in the province that is actually closest to carg Island,
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Speaker 7: which we've been hearing so much about. We had withheld
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Speaker 7: reporting on this until now because there was an active
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Speaker 7: search and rescue operation ongoing. But now that we've learned
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Speaker 7: that the President has been briefed on the down to
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Speaker 7: F fifteen, we are getting some details from open source
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Speaker 7: online showing that the actual pilot seat from the F
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Speaker 7: fifteen was seen on the ground, suggesting that the at
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Speaker 7: least one of the pilots had ejected and the pilot
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Speaker 7: was not present at that site where the photo was taken,
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Speaker 7: so that suggests that one may have survived. At least
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Speaker 7: there are two pilots and an F fifteen E, and
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Speaker 7: they would have been flying. We see also some open
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Speaker 7: source video showing that there were two search and rescue
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Speaker 7: helicopters that were being refueled mid air in daylight. That
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Speaker 7: would suggest again an urgency to that search and rescue mission,
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Speaker 7: because it would be rare to conduct a search and
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Speaker 7: rescue mission with low flying helicopters over an area that
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Speaker 7: is possibly contested. Given that this happened during the daylight hours,
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Speaker 7: it shows an urgency and a suggestion that some of
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Speaker 7: the pilots may have served.
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Speaker 3: So that report from the Fox News channel. And interestingly,
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Speaker 3: there's a lot of conflicting information about this about when
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Speaker 3: the plane was struck, was it refueling, was it just
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Speaker 3: hit by the Iranians. A lot of questions abound on
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Speaker 3: this topic, and I'm reaching out to my peeps out
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Speaker 3: there that have flown these types of planes asking all
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Speaker 3: the questions, and as I get that information, I'll bring
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Speaker 3: it to you. The United States saying they do have
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Speaker 3: one person that they've just found discovered, you know, ejected
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Speaker 3: safely in another person that is still out there. And again,
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Speaker 3: in the fog of war, you don't know what to believe,
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Speaker 3: what's real, what's not. It's always a good practice to
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Speaker 3: question everything you hear, especially during a time of conflict,
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Speaker 3: because ultimately you can't really telegraph what you're doing to
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Speaker 3: the enemy. So every time Trump says this is happening,
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Speaker 3: and that's happening, and it's you know, it's about to happen,
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Speaker 3: it's in the future, you have to ask yourself, is
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Speaker 3: that really happening or is he trying to throw off
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Speaker 3: the scent of what's happening or what he's about to do.
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Speaker 3: So that's as much as I've got on that. Now,
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Speaker 3: this to me underscores exactly why it's so important to
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Speaker 3: be where we are right to actually be engaged in
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Speaker 3: this conflict. And I know a lot of people out
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Speaker 3: there saying, oh, screw Trump, we're fighting Israel's war. I
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Speaker 3: see it completely differently. In the twenty twenty two years,
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Speaker 3: I would say that I have been observing politics. I
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Speaker 3: can tell you that I've always seen Israel to be
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Speaker 3: not only an ally, but really our henchmen in the
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Speaker 3: Middle East. Right, they do the dirty work. They have
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Speaker 3: an incredible intelligence operation in the Mosad, and they get
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Speaker 3: things done. I mean, don't forget these are the same
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Speaker 3: people that we're able to explode the pagers and walkie
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Speaker 3: talkies of the Hamas people or has a lot. This
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Speaker 3: is an amazing fee, if you will, when you look
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Speaker 3: at exactly how they pulled that off. So again, I
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Speaker 3: think people haven't misunderstood. United States is bigger and stronger
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Speaker 3: than Israel. The United States is clearly clearly in the
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Speaker 3: driver's seat on these issues. We don't lobby Israel. Israel
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Speaker 3: lobbies US. So when people say, well because of a pack,
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Speaker 3: but get that right. They're paying people to influence congress
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Speaker 3: people in another country. If they were in charge, they
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Speaker 3: wouldn't be lobbying us. We'd be lobbying them because they'd
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Speaker 3: be holding the cards. They'd have all the power, And
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Speaker 3: clearly they don't. And I'm not trying to put them down.
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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to put down this false assertion that
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Speaker 3: somehow and Yahoo is in charge of the globe and
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Speaker 3: that President Trump is subservient to Israel. Couldn't be further
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Speaker 3: from the truth. Marco Rubio explains exactly what's going on
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Speaker 3: with these nukes with Tehran and why we have to
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Speaker 3: get rid of these radical extremists that run Iran.
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Speaker 8: Many Americans are asking why did the United States have
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Speaker 8: to attack Iran? Now, well, let me explain Iran wants
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Speaker 8: to have nuclear weapons. Of that there is zero doubt.
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Speaker 8: If what they truly wanted, which is what they claim
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Speaker 8: is nuclear energy, well they could have nuclear energy like
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Speaker 8: all the other countries in the world have it, and
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Speaker 8: that is you import the fuel and you build reactors
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Speaker 8: above ground. That's not what Iran has done. They build
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Speaker 8: their reactors and their facilities deep in mountains, away from
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Speaker 8: the public glare, and they want to enrich that material.
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Speaker 8: The same equipment that they could use to enrich material
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Speaker 8: for energy, they could use to quickly enrich it to
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Speaker 8: weapons grade. So it is clear that they've been offered
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Speaker 8: every opportunity to have a nuclear program that allows them
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Speaker 8: to have energy, not weapons, and every single time they
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Speaker 8: have turned it down. But why the attack, Now, Well,
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Speaker 8: what was Iran trying to do. Iran was trying to
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Speaker 8: build a conventional shield in essence, have so many missiles,
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Speaker 8: have so many drones that no one can attack them.
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Speaker 8: And they were well on their way. We were on
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Speaker 8: the verge of an Iran that had so many missiles
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Speaker 8: and so many drones that no one could do anything
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Speaker 8: about their nuclear weapons program in the future. That was
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Speaker 8: an intolerable risk. Under no circumstances can a country run
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Speaker 8: by radical Shiah clerics with an apocalyptic vision of the
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Speaker 8: future ever possess nuclear weapons, And under no circumstances can
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Speaker 8: they be allowed to hide and protect that program and
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Speaker 8: their ambitions behind a shield of missiles and drones that
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Speaker 8: no one can do anything about. This was our last
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Speaker 8: best chance to eliminate that conventional threat, that conventional shield
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Speaker 8: that they were trying to build, and the President made
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Speaker 8: the right decision to wipe it out. Now that is
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Speaker 8: the goal of this operation, to destroy their conventional missiles
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Speaker 8: and their drone program so they can't hide behind it
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Speaker 8: and finally have to deal with the world seriously about
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Speaker 8: never ever having nuclear weapons.
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Speaker 3: Secretary of State Marco Rubio nailing it right there. I
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Speaker 3: think he's got it one hundred percent right. That's why
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Speaker 3: this is so important. That's what's on the line. Again,
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Speaker 3: it's Good Friday, and I'm gonna do something I don't
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Speaker 3: normally do. Every now and again, I'll play a flashback
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Speaker 3: interview of something I did, but usually not the immediate previous.
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Speaker 3: But last Good Friday, I did an interview with Pastor
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Speaker 3: Anthony Fleming, who's the pastor of my church, Transformed Church
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Speaker 3: in Jersey, and I really enjoyed it and I want
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Speaker 3: to replay it. I'll do that a little bit later.
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Speaker 3: I'll bring an excerpt of that, and just giving your
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Speaker 3: heads up on that. But I also want to talk
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Speaker 3: about a number of other things. One of the other
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Speaker 3: things I want to talk about is this story that
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Speaker 3: I saw in the New York Post, which is about,
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Speaker 3: of all things, interestingly enough, it's about poison. I think
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Speaker 3: you're gonna really be surprised by this one. Definitely not
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Speaker 3: good Friday material, but I will bring that over to
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Speaker 3: you as well. Plus I have a Easter Holy Week
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Speaker 3: message from President Trump that I want to play as well.
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Speaker 3: So keep it locked right here, folks. I am Rich Valdez.
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Speaker 3: We are just getting started. Eight seven seven Valdez one
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Speaker 3: is the phone number, eight seven seven Valdez one. Don't
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Speaker 3: move a muscle.
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Speaker 4: This is America. This is America. He's brown, he's bald,
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Speaker 4: and he's breaking it down.
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Speaker 9: Oh he still had some what's his.
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Speaker 3: Day, Rich Veldez?
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Speaker 4: All right?
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Speaker 3: Ever, mean goes, Welcome back, Rich valdeesk keeping your company
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Speaker 3: this good Friday. And I want to get into the
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Speaker 3: jobs report I saw a clip of CNN and the
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Speaker 3: folks at CNN, who President Trupple likes to call the
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Speaker 3: fake news CNN fake news, they had a moment of
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Speaker 3: real news, at least a moment of friendliness toward him,
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Speaker 3: where they were talking about the latest jobs report numbers,
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Speaker 3: saying that they came in higher than expectation. With the report,
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Speaker 3: apparently sixty thousand jobs were forecast and one hundred and
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Speaker 3: seventy eight thousand jobs is what was reported. Check this out.
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Speaker 3: I think the expectation was what sixty thousand jobs and
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Speaker 3: it's one seventy eight. Wow.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, Look, the job market bounced back in a big
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Speaker 10: way in March, and that is good news.
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Speaker 9: Really blowing away expectations.
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Speaker 3: Blowing away expectations is right. And again this is with
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Speaker 3: the presumption that these numbers won't be adjusted downward, which
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Speaker 3: has been a trend coming from Washington, bipartisan trend for
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Speaker 3: you know, for as long as we've had jobs reports,
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Speaker 3: and most famously Biden, right, Biden really doing a number
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Speaker 3: on you know, saying oh, we got this many jobs,
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Speaker 3: and then the following went, oh, well we didn't really
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Speaker 3: have so many, and all sorts of you know, crazy
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Speaker 3: adjustments coming up. But American workers wage gains slowed down
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Speaker 3: a little bit in March despite the strong hiring. That's
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Speaker 3: according to some of the economists, and this is being
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Speaker 3: reported in Fox Business Hourly Earnings. The average hourly earnings
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Speaker 3: rose two tenths of a percent over the month of
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Speaker 3: March and three point five percent annually, which were lower
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Speaker 3: than some economists were forecasting according to this piece. Now,
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Speaker 3: Thevieeru of Labor Statistics on Friday releasing their March Jobs report,
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Speaker 3: which is what we've been talking about, showing that the
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Speaker 3: US economy added one hundred and seventy eight thousand jobs
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Speaker 3: for the month of March, with obviously a huge upside
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Speaker 3: because the economists were pulled by the firm LSEG and
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Speaker 3: they anticipated only sixty thousand jobs. So that's good news,
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Speaker 3: right for trumpito for the United States, presuming all holds well.
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Speaker 3: In the following report, the report also found at the
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Speaker 3: average earnings, like I told you, didn't increase the way
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Speaker 3: they wanted to. These readings represent a little bit of
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Speaker 3: a slow down in wage growth from the figures that
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Speaker 3: were reported in February, when wages were up four tenths
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Speaker 3: of a percentage point from the previous month and three
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Speaker 3: point eight percent year over year. Additionally, the report found
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Speaker 3: that the average work week was shorter than expected, at
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Speaker 3: thirty four point two hours, below the thirty four point
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Speaker 3: three reading that it had in February. Economists again saying
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Speaker 3: that this is, you know, more of what they expected
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Speaker 3: would happen. These guys are banking on America to fail. Sadly,
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Speaker 3: the average hour pay for private sector employees was thirty
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Speaker 3: seven dollars and thirty eight cents in March, up from
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Speaker 3: thirty seven dollars and twenty nine cents in February, and
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Speaker 3: it was thirty six dollars and eleven cents in March.
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Speaker 3: So that's what they're talking about right there. Anyway, I'm
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Speaker 3: going to get into this, you know, because reading the
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Speaker 3: numbers doesn't really do it. You really got to have
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Speaker 3: a conversation with somebody who can put it into context.
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Speaker 3: So I'm going to recommend we reach out to our
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Speaker 3: resident economist EJ and Tony Jantoni, who actually was nominated
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Speaker 3: by President Trump to be the Director of the Bureau
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Speaker 3: of Labor Statistics until he withdrew his nomination, to continue
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Speaker 3: his very important work at the Heritage Foundation. So let's
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Speaker 3: reach out to EJ and TONI and see if we
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Speaker 3: can get him on for Monday or Tuesday. And I
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Speaker 3: want to continue our discussion here because there's a lot
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Speaker 3: to discuss, I think, right, I think there's plenty to discuss.
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Speaker 3: There was this in addition to the poisoning story, which
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Speaker 3: I'm going to do in a moment, there was also
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Speaker 3: all right, well that's that. All right, So I'll pause
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Speaker 3: right here, We'll make that a short segment, and we'll
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Speaker 3: come right back and we will talk about some of
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Speaker 3: this poisoning stuff before we get into our flashback conversation
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Speaker 3: with that pastor Anthony Fleming. Don't go anywhere.
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Speaker 4: This is America. This is America.
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Speaker 3: President Donald takes rough. Mister President, welcome to the program Sert.
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Speaker 11: Well, thank you, Rich, and thank you for everything.
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Speaker 12: I know you very well, and I have.
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Speaker 11: I listened, but I have a lot of people that
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Speaker 11: listen and they love your show, and I appreciate it
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Speaker 11: very much.
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Speaker 3: All right, I mean, he goes, welcome back, Rich Valdez,
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Speaker 3: keeping your company here on this good Friday. And I
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Speaker 3: want to get into this poisoning stuff, right I've been
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Speaker 3: talking about it for a minute. It fascinates me. Right,
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Speaker 3: imagine if you have a problem with someone that you
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Speaker 3: care about, someone that means a lot to you, someone
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Speaker 3: that you can't stand, right, or all three right, somebody
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Speaker 3: that you love and somebody can't stand and you all
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Speaker 3: live together.
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Speaker 9: Right.
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Speaker 3: Let's say a married couple and a roommate, or the
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Speaker 3: married couple take exception and umbridge with one another, and
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Speaker 3: now they want to off the other person by poisoning them.
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Speaker 3: This is the latest thing I've been seeing now. The
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Speaker 3: first case I saw was a couple of years ago,
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Speaker 3: more than a couple, probably about eight years ago, and
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Speaker 3: I think it went to trial in twenty twenty one.
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Speaker 3: But just last week and last month there were cases
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Speaker 3: just like these, And let me tell you, they boggle
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Speaker 3: the mind. Right. I could never imagine somebody being so
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Speaker 3: hell bent on I don't know, getting rid of somebody
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Speaker 3: that they would poison them. But listen to this. This
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Speaker 3: is from ABC News, just a couple of weeks ago.
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Speaker 12: Well, concerning warning for couples.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 12: A new DHS intelligence note obtained by ABC News shows
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Speaker 12: domestic partners are increasingly using chemical and biological toxins to
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Speaker 12: kill their partners. The data finding that people intend on
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Speaker 12: harming or killing their partners are turning to poisons like cyanide,
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Speaker 12: often sourced from online black markets or made at home.
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Speaker 12: The document highlighting the case of a Colorado dentist convicted
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Speaker 12: of first degree murder after gradually poisoning his wife's protein shakes.
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Speaker 3: Hold on a second, so let me get it straight.
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Speaker 3: That's exactly what I thought it was. I'm not feeling
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Speaker 3: shorty no more. I don't like you anymore. I am
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Speaker 3: going to poison you like this dentist. This crazy dentist
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Speaker 3: poisoned his wife. Let me go to whatever whatever dot
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Speaker 3: com and pay for express delivery to get my cyanide?
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Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? This is so wild? Yeahead, let
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Speaker 3: it play.
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Speaker 12: Speaking our chief investigative course bind Aaron Kntursky. He's been
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Speaker 12: following this for so clearly the trend is so alarming,
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Speaker 12: DHS had to issue a warning.
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Speaker 9: So what's going on erin, which is.
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Speaker 2: Pretty astounding, Kira when you think about it. But they
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Speaker 2: have seen increasing numbers of cases where a husband or
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Speaker 2: wife or other domestic partner is turning to these poisons.
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Speaker 2: In large part, the authorities think because they can often
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Speaker 2: mimic natural deaths. Sometimes they can conceal themselves, and sometimes
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Speaker 2: they are slow to release, so the death can occur gradually,
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Speaker 2: and you might not pinpoint an exact cause. Perhaps they're
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Speaker 2: hoping to get away with it in that way.
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Speaker 3: Obviously they're hoping to get away with it. That's why
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Speaker 3: they're using killmypartner dot com and express delivery to do it.
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Speaker 2: But these substances have been increasingly turned to by domestic partners,
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Speaker 2: the authorities say, and so much so that the Department
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Speaker 2: of Homeland Security is now warning law enforcement to be
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Speaker 2: on the lookout for these black market chemicals and when
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Speaker 2: they respond to domestic situations, to understand that these poisons
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Speaker 2: may be present.
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Speaker 3: Man, now that wasn't the only case of this type
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Speaker 3: of thing happening. That was just a few days ago.
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Speaker 3: You also had just a few weeks ago this case
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Speaker 3: out of I forget where it is. But let me
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Speaker 3: tell you about the roommates, right, a married couple that
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Speaker 3: had an extra room and they rented it to somebody,
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Speaker 3: and they catch this guy on a nanny cam. He's
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Speaker 3: on some sort of you know, recording with a hazmat suit,
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Speaker 3: spray and all sorts of crazy stuff. This one you
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Speaker 3: can't miss and you've probably seen this already, but just
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Speaker 3: in case, here's a refresher.
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Speaker 5: This morning shocking footage inside a California home. A couple
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Speaker 5: says this is their roommate in a gas mask covering
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Speaker 5: their food, kitchen and pantry with insect poison. This has
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Speaker 5: been a nightmare, total nightmare. Billy Hopper and her husband
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Speaker 5: David say they've had repeated problems with their roommate, forty
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Speaker 5: two year old Timothy Bradbury. They installed security cameras inside
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Speaker 5: their Santa Clarita house after they say their clothes were
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Speaker 5: cut up, their property destroyed, and their food was thrown away.
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Speaker 5: But recently they started having serious health issues. I've been
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Speaker 5: so sick this past year that i haven't been able hardly.
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Speaker 4: Do anything because of this guy.
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Speaker 2: My husband's been sick.
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Speaker 5: We were both in the er within the last two weeks.
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Speaker 5: They say. Their doctors suggested they might have been poisoned.
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Speaker 5: They checked out the footage from the cameras and this
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Speaker 5: is what they saw, covering everything from their groceries to
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Speaker 5: the coffee pot they used daily.
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Speaker 3: Again, just to reiterate what he's saying, this dude is
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Speaker 3: spraying the kitchen as if he was repainting their kitchen
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Speaker 3: cabinets and refinishing all of their food. They had dishes
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Speaker 3: in a dish drainer to the sink. He's spraying those two.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he spray and everything with what looks like
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Speaker 3: like roach poisoner, one of those things to kill flies.
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Speaker 4: It's infuriating it.
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Speaker 13: It's really heartbreaking too to see somebody who's has mental
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Speaker 13: health problems doing something like that.
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Speaker 5: They called the authorities and the Santa Clarita Sheriff's office
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Speaker 5: is when they made contact with Bradbury. He barricaded himself
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Speaker 5: inside and it took two hours before he eventually surrendered.
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Speaker 5: Investigators say family members told them Bradbury has a mental disability.
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Speaker 5: He was arrested for attempted poisoning, but he's already been released.
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Speaker 5: Who's the hoppers learned while speaking with us.
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Speaker 11: I just wonder if they're going to make him stay away.
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Speaker 11: I just wonder if we're going to have to be
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Speaker 11: back being scared to death again or not.
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Speaker 7: That's that's what I worry about.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my fear.
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Speaker 9: We had no idea.
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Speaker 4: We thought we didn't know. We thought they really at
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Speaker 4: least keep him for a little bit.
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Speaker 9: Now.
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Speaker 5: We tried to contact Bradbury's attorney, but we did not
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Speaker 5: hear back. The DA will now consider charges, and that
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Speaker 5: includes a potential FELONYC count of attempted poisoning.
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Speaker 3: You know, attempted poisoning. What did you think this guy's
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Speaker 3: goal was to give him a stomach ache for them
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Speaker 3: to become a little bit ill or was he trying
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Speaker 3: to kill these people? And I guess that's what they're
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Speaker 3: going to have to try and prove. But if I
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Speaker 3: were those people, I'd feel exactly like they do. I'd think, man,
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Speaker 3: this guy tried to kill me. This guy was trying
20:23
Speaker 3: to you know that stuff kills bugs and whatnot, and
20:26
Speaker 3: he was putting it in Candidad right in large quantity,
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Speaker 3: all over their stuff. So forgive me for being skeptical
20:34
Speaker 3: that I don't want to see this guy. California is
20:37
Speaker 3: a wild, wild place now, just to put a cap
20:41
Speaker 3: on this, this reminds me of a case that occurred,
20:44
Speaker 3: like I said, about six seven, eight years ago and
20:46
Speaker 3: went to trial I think in twenty twenty one, but
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Speaker 3: eerily similar and just wild stuff that happens. Listen to
20:54
Speaker 3: this one more report and you'll start to think, Man,
20:56
Speaker 3: there really is a theme in these things. Check this out.
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Speaker 14: Wild former student at Lehigh University in Pennsylvania is under
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Speaker 14: arrest tonight, accused of slowly poisoning his roommate by lacing
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Speaker 14: his milk and his mouthwash with a dangerous chemical. The
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Speaker 14: two had been roommates for years, the victims saying he
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Speaker 14: thought they were friends, but the poisoning isn't the only
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Speaker 14: charge the suspect is now facing.
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Speaker 9: Here's ABC's Alex Pereess, a.
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Speaker 13: Lehigh University student, is behind bars tonight after police say
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Speaker 13: he had been trying to kill his roommate for several months.
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Speaker 13: Prosecutor say twenty two year old Yukai Yang from China
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Speaker 13: faces as several charges, including attempted homicide and aggravated assault.
21:37
Speaker 13: Authority say the chemistry major carried out the attempted murder
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Speaker 13: plot inside his storm, slowly and discreetly putting a poisonous
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Speaker 13: metal known as thallium and possibly other chemicals in his
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Speaker 13: roommate Juwan Royal's milk and mouthwash.
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Speaker 15: Mister Royle experienced extreme pain in his lower extremities, as
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Speaker 15: well as severe burning and numbness.
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Speaker 13: Royal, who had been roommates with Yang for several years
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Speaker 13: and thought they were friends. First reported his symptoms to
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Speaker 13: police back in March, dizziness, shaking, and vomiting. That's when
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Speaker 13: his blood tested positive for thallium. Back in April, Yang
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Speaker 13: was arrested and released on bail for damaging Royal's television
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Speaker 13: bed and desk and writing enward, get out of here
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Speaker 13: in black marker Tom. According to police, Yang told them
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Speaker 13: he bought the poisonous chemical but plan to use it
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Speaker 13: on himself if he didn't do well on exam's. Royal
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Speaker 13: is said to be recovering but still suffering from side effects.
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Speaker 3: That is wild. Okay, So I wasn't trying to kill
22:36
Speaker 3: those guys. I was trying to kill myself. Bravo, Sierra bs.
22:42
Speaker 3: I don't buy it, not even a little bit. Again,
22:44
Speaker 3: this guy ended up getting in all sorts of trouble.
22:46
Speaker 3: This is an old clip from several years ago. This
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Speaker 3: went to trial back in twenty twenty one. But I
22:51
Speaker 3: just wanted you to hear the case. Similar Again, roommates
22:55
Speaker 3: don't like each other. Next thing you know, they're trying
22:57
Speaker 3: to poison you. That is crazy stuff and nobody, nobody
23:03
Speaker 3: should sleep on that you've got to be real careful
23:06
Speaker 3: about the people that you're around. And sadly, in all
23:09
Speaker 3: of these cases, every last one of them, it was
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Speaker 3: the person that they lived with. That's a shame. Anyway,
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Speaker 3: I want to leave you with some positive thoughts before
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Speaker 3: we get into our Flashback Friday interview with Pastor Anthony
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Speaker 3: Fleming from Transformed Church in Rutherford and Lyndhurst, New Jersey.
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Speaker 4: And it is a.
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Speaker 3: Message on Holy Week from El Trompito, Donaldus Magnus to
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Speaker 3: forty fifth and forty seventh President of these United States,
23:38
Speaker 3: El pressI, then the Donald J. Trump, and here we go.
23:42
Speaker 3: Check this out.
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Speaker 15: This Holy Week, I'm proud to join with Christians across
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Speaker 15: the country and around the world to celebrate the most
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Speaker 15: glorious miracle and all of time, the resurrection of our
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Speaker 15: Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. In his life, Christ displayed
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Speaker 15: true humility. In his death, he modeled true love, and
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Speaker 15: in his resurrection from the tomb, he proved that even
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Speaker 15: death itself will not silence those who place their trust
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Speaker 15: in Almighty God, as it says in Gospel of John,
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Speaker 15: For God so loved the world that he gave his
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Speaker 15: only son for whoever believes in Him should not perish,
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Speaker 15: but have eternal life. Eternal life, such beautiful words. This
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Speaker 15: Eastern millions of Christians all over the globe will be
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Speaker 15: reminded that because of what Jesus did on the Cross,
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Speaker 15: all of us can live every day with hope in
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Speaker 15: God's promise, knowing that in the end evil and wickedness
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Speaker 15: will not prevail. In this spirit of joy and renewal,
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Speaker 15: this Easter, we also celebrate the extraordinary resurrection of faith
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Speaker 15: and religion in America. As I have often said, to
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Speaker 15: be a great nation, you must have religion and you
24:58
Speaker 15: must have God. Churches across the nation on Sunday the
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Speaker 15: pews will be fuller, younger, and more faithful than they
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Speaker 15: have at any time in many, many years. Religion is
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Speaker 15: growing again in our country for the first time in decades.
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Speaker 15: Happy Easter to all. May God bless you. May God
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Speaker 15: bless the United States of America. Our country is doing
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Speaker 15: so well like never before.
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Speaker 3: Thank you that there is a Holy Week message from
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Speaker 3: El Trumpito DONALDUS Magnus, the forty fifth and forty seventh
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Speaker 3: President of these United States. Straight ahead our conversation with
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Speaker 3: Pastor Anthony Fleming from transformed church and some closing thoughts
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Speaker 3: from me, don't go anywhere. I'm rich child asked, this.
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Speaker 4: Is America, this is a merry.
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Speaker 11: Nearly two thousand years ago, during the Sacred Week, the
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Speaker 11: living Son of God entered Jerusalem and triumph. Soon after,
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Speaker 11: the savior of mankind, who brought truth and light into
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Speaker 11: the world, was betrayed, arrested and tried, beaten and nailed
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Speaker 11: to a cross, and crucified. For our sake, he gave
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Speaker 11: up his life, and as the very great Reverend Billy
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Speaker 11: Graham once said, God proved his love on the cross.
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Speaker 11: When Christ hung and bled and died, it was God
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Speaker 11: saying to the world I love you. Those are beautiful
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Speaker 11: words from a great man.
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Speaker 3: Frank right, what's up, America. It's Rich Valdez. So check
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Speaker 3: this out. I want to bring you a very special
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Speaker 3: Good Friday guest. Now, this guy is not just a pastor.
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Speaker 3: He's somebody has his own personal story, and we're going
27:14
Speaker 3: to get into his story of how he came from
27:16
Speaker 3: Australia to the United States and the next segment and
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Speaker 3: how he got to discover the missing piece and explode
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Speaker 3: the ministry that God gave him. But right now, I
27:27
Speaker 3: want to get his reaction to some of the things
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Speaker 3: that you just heard President Trump saying about Easter, about
27:32
Speaker 3: the resurrection, as well as the mocking of Christianity and
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump on Saturday Night Live. Welcome, sir, Pastor Anthony Fleming.
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Speaker 3: It's an honor.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, thanks so much, sir.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a special time of year obviously for Christians,
27:50
Speaker 10: and the media is kind of known for loving to
27:54
Speaker 10: mock Christians. They don't seem to mark many other religions,
27:56
Speaker 10: but they'll definitely mark the Fith. I think it's obviously
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Speaker 10: a beautiful thing that we have a fairly bold, well
28:03
Speaker 10: not a fairly bold, a bold president, someone who's not
28:07
Speaker 10: afraid to say what he believes. It's interesting that so
28:12
Speaker 10: many other people have said what they believe, but they
28:15
Speaker 10: kind of make it very general, I think, and he
28:19
Speaker 10: just goes after it, and to be honest, I think
28:21
Speaker 10: that's refreshing.
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Speaker 3: I agree. And I think it also kind of tackles
28:26
Speaker 3: the problem that a lot of people think that there
28:28
Speaker 3: should be a to borrow a term from a long
28:30
Speaker 3: time ago, a war between a separation between church and state,
28:34
Speaker 3: and this I think is is alive from the enemy.
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Speaker 3: If I can right now saying politics and religion or
28:41
Speaker 3: things you shouldn't talk about. I think those are the
28:43
Speaker 3: two main things you should talk about.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, Well it is a fallacy because here's what
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Speaker 10: people often do. They say I'm not religious, and then
28:53
Speaker 10: therefore they say I have no beliefs. The essence of
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Speaker 10: religion is belief, and so politics is the outworking of
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Speaker 10: our beliefs. And so you can't not have beliefs in
29:06
Speaker 10: politics because you're saying right, you're saying wrong, you're saying good,
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Speaker 10: you're saying bad, and that is the essence of what
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Speaker 10: we believe. Therefore, it is in essence religious. Now should
29:16
Speaker 10: we be forcing our religion in essence on people. No,
29:22
Speaker 10: But at the same time you have to say right
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Speaker 10: and wrong. The Ten Commandments were foundational obviously throughout the
29:29
Speaker 10: Western world, and created a civil society, a better society
29:34
Speaker 10: by saying don't lie, don't steal, don't murder, don't commit adultery,
29:39
Speaker 10: don't cover it. Those were things that were foundational that
29:43
Speaker 10: help humanity flourish.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Really well, put and where we are today from your view,
29:50
Speaker 3: and I guess your view is really unique because you
29:52
Speaker 3: weren't born in the United States, so you have this
29:55
Speaker 3: juxtaposition of living in Australia. But I can tell you
29:59
Speaker 3: I've seen things go downhill since.
30:01
Speaker 9: I was a kid.
30:02
Speaker 3: When I was a kid, everybody, I thought everybody was
30:04
Speaker 3: a Christian, right, it was okay to go to church,
30:06
Speaker 3: it was okay to talk about God. As I got older,
30:08
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh, you guys don't do that.
30:09
Speaker 3: What's going on here? Right? And it's almost criticized. What's
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Speaker 3: your view? How have you observed that?
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Speaker 10: Yeah, gosh, it's interesting because I came from Australia at nineteen,
30:22
Speaker 10: went to Liberty University, which was a very deep dive
30:25
Speaker 10: pro Republican, obviously pro faith, you know, environment, and that
30:31
Speaker 10: was different for me. Went back to so I came
30:34
Speaker 10: back to America and then I went to conferences and
30:36
Speaker 10: leadership conferences back in the day and really was discouraged.
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Speaker 9: From talking ever about politics.
30:41
Speaker 10: But it wasn't until I think the political realm started
30:45
Speaker 10: stepping on areas that I felt was so foundational to
30:51
Speaker 10: life and flourishing that I felt compelled that I had
30:55
Speaker 10: to talk about it.
30:56
Speaker 9: And so when.
30:58
Speaker 10: When really our governor of New Jersey at that time,
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Speaker 10: and then numerous different people went so left wing when
31:06
Speaker 10: it came to abortion, for instance, and promoting nine month abortions,
31:11
Speaker 10: I felt so compelled during that time that I had
31:13
Speaker 10: to talk about it because it was blatantly murderous and
31:17
Speaker 10: a dangerous doctrine. And then the other thing I felt
31:20
Speaker 10: like I had to talk about, which was speaking up
31:24
Speaker 10: for children. And so, you know, as a pastor, someone
31:29
Speaker 10: who's dealt with sometimes people's problems for over twenty years
31:33
Speaker 10: on a discipleship level, on a counseling level, on a
31:37
Speaker 10: marital level, not just what I've dealt with, but also
31:40
Speaker 10: what many other pastes have dealt with, and even just
31:43
Speaker 10: people who are trying to help people navigate what i'd
31:46
Speaker 10: call soulish wounds of the past. To then somehow dive in.
31:52
Speaker 10: I don't know how we fell in love with this,
31:53
Speaker 10: but it was a spiritual thing. We somehow fell in
31:56
Speaker 10: love to playcate to such a degree. Here's what I'd say.
32:05
Speaker 10: It's like we fell in love with compassion but lost
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Speaker 10: our conviction. So instead of being just compassionate to the individual,
32:13
Speaker 10: we said, we're gonna overplay that and we're gonna literally
32:17
Speaker 10: bring in a doctrine of confusion to young children and
32:21
Speaker 10: so when people started talking about gender neutrality and teaching
32:25
Speaker 10: that in education sphere, there was something in me that
32:30
Speaker 10: I couldn't be silent as a father, as a child
32:34
Speaker 10: of God, as a pastor, and so I feel like
32:37
Speaker 10: I had to talk about some of those things. And
32:40
Speaker 10: actually what I found was I was stepping into sometimes
32:44
Speaker 10: on some people's toes. But what actually happened was it
32:47
Speaker 10: caused Christians to be bolder. It caused them to say, yeah,
32:51
Speaker 10: that's right, we need to stand up for these things.
32:54
Speaker 9: And so there was this.
32:57
Speaker 10: It was an interesting time because for me around that
32:59
Speaker 10: time was also around COVID and different stuff, and it
33:02
Speaker 10: felt like there was so many voices and all the
33:04
Speaker 10: voices of social media. But I remember praying one day
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Speaker 10: and on my way to church, and I felt like
33:12
Speaker 10: there were so many voices, and I just felt really
33:14
Speaker 10: convicted that I was to keep building strong men, and
33:17
Speaker 10: then I was just speak up for children. And so
33:20
Speaker 10: that has been one of the things that I've talked about.
33:23
Speaker 10: And so I think it's important that Christians see the
33:26
Speaker 10: weightiest matters of the law, the weightiest things in scripture,
33:30
Speaker 10: which Jesus talked about in Matthew twenty three twenty three,
33:33
Speaker 10: and he said, if we will wait, what is the weightiest,
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Speaker 10: we will know how to navigate our faith, our life,
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Speaker 10: our voting, our government decisions.
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Speaker 9: Will know it through the lens of scripture.
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Speaker 3: Pastor Anthony Fleming, would you say that this conviction that
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Speaker 3: you got was because you were a pastor or simply
33:52
Speaker 3: because you are a father and a believer?
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Speaker 10: You know, first, it's son of God, right first, it's
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Speaker 10: I'm forgiven. I'm meant to be a reflection of Jesus,
34:04
Speaker 10: So that should be primary. And obviously the amount of
34:08
Speaker 10: time you spend in scripture should obviously help forming you something.
34:12
Speaker 10: You know, if you just look simply at the Ten
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Speaker 10: Commandments and you look through them and read them out loud,
34:18
Speaker 10: and then you see policies and government officials that seem
34:22
Speaker 10: to attack them at every moment, you go, well, it
34:25
Speaker 10: doesn't matter how good you sound, it doesn't matter.
34:27
Speaker 9: How flowery your words are.
34:29
Speaker 10: You're attacking the foundations of what is Christianity, the faith America.
34:36
Speaker 9: And so I just felt like I had to be
34:38
Speaker 9: bold there.
34:38
Speaker 10: And as a father, I did begin to imagine, like
34:43
Speaker 10: my own son if he was five, six seven, my
34:46
Speaker 10: own daughter six seven, eight years old and then teachers
34:51
Speaker 10: introducing dangerous thoughts to them, like there's certain things that
34:56
Speaker 10: we don't understand as adults, but then to go in
35:00
Speaker 10: to reduce those thoughts as a young child just violates
35:04
Speaker 10: every bit of common sense, every bit of wisdom that
35:08
Speaker 10: I can think of. And the you know, as again
35:12
Speaker 10: someone who's pasted people over the years, your sexual wounds,
35:16
Speaker 10: I put it that way, your childhood.
35:18
Speaker 9: Wounds they carry for years and years.
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Speaker 10: So I felt like that was a doctrine that was
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Speaker 10: basically from Satan. There's no other way to say it.
35:27
Speaker 10: And it was evil, and I think Christians had to
35:31
Speaker 10: I still think Christians actually have to be bolder and
35:34
Speaker 10: clearer on some of.
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Speaker 9: Those things, while at the same time being loving.
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Speaker 10: And gracious to the individual, but standing up for what
35:40
Speaker 10: it's true.
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Speaker 3: Love the center, hate the sin.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, not easy to do, and that's why you need grace,
35:46
Speaker 10: That's why you need mercy, and that's why you need
35:49
Speaker 10: to literally say, Jesus helped me. Because sometimes you will
35:52
Speaker 10: start to hate someone because they're carrying a certain ideology
35:56
Speaker 10: that's not the spirit at all. But in your own
35:58
Speaker 10: walk with God, you've got to bring that to God.
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Speaker 1: This is America, This is America.
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36:32
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Speaker 3: And I wanted to do something special. We always for Christmas,
36:59
Speaker 3: for a good Friday, for those types of things. We
37:00
Speaker 3: always talk about the importance of these holidays, and there's
37:04
Speaker 3: you know, we just heard the comments from President Trump
37:08
Speaker 3: referencing his faith and why we acknowledged a resurrection on Easter.
37:12
Speaker 3: But I want to talk about that. I want to
37:14
Speaker 3: talk about the role Christianities playing in America. I want
37:17
Speaker 3: to talk about society and culture. And I want to
37:21
Speaker 3: do it with somebody who's Australian, right, an Australian guy.
37:26
Speaker 3: He graduated from the same college that my daughter just
37:29
Speaker 3: graduated from, Liberty University. Shout out to the Flames. And
37:33
Speaker 3: he's also my pastor, Pastor Anthony Fleming from Church Alive. Welcome, sir.
37:37
Speaker 9: Yeah, great to be here, my friend. Great to be here,
37:39
Speaker 9: really is.
37:40
Speaker 3: So let's let's start there. How do we how do
37:42
Speaker 3: we end up with this this big, big sound the
37:45
Speaker 3: alarm sound, the alarm. How do we end up with
37:48
Speaker 3: this big, big church that's slowly growing or quickly growing
37:53
Speaker 3: in Bergen County, New Jersey with a guy that was
37:57
Speaker 3: in Australia not that long ago, saying I'm not going
38:00
Speaker 3: to be in the ministry, right, how does that happen?
38:03
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a story.
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Speaker 10: So when I'm nineteen, I go to Liberty University. A
38:09
Speaker 10: year before I really had kind of a reawakening in
38:13
Speaker 10: my faith, to be honest, and had always had this
38:16
Speaker 10: desire to go play college tennis. And that was the
38:19
Speaker 10: door that got opened for me at Liberty University. While
38:22
Speaker 10: I'm there praying one day, felt called to preach, felt
38:26
Speaker 10: like God had put purpose in my heart in a
38:29
Speaker 10: big way.
38:30
Speaker 9: End up meeting my wife there.
38:31
Speaker 10: She's from New Jersey, and so we get married a
38:34
Speaker 10: couple of years later and in four and we were
38:37
Speaker 10: actually in Australia.
38:38
Speaker 9: At the time. She had just finished All Song College.
38:42
Speaker 10: We just got married, and her father, who was a
38:44
Speaker 10: Portuguese speaking pastor in Jersey, asked us, Hey, do you
38:48
Speaker 10: want to start something here, And to be honest, we
38:50
Speaker 10: kind of said no. But we prayed about for about
38:52
Speaker 10: that next thirty days and just felt like it was
38:55
Speaker 10: an open door and hey, let's step into it. And
38:58
Speaker 10: so we were kind of laboring away. We felt like
39:01
Speaker 10: God had given us a dream to reach people for Christ,
39:05
Speaker 10: to take them on a journey of a discipleship, to
39:07
Speaker 10: see life transformation in them, and then lead their families
39:13
Speaker 10: in a stronger, better way. And I think over time
39:17
Speaker 10: that just became really our passion. It became of a
39:21
Speaker 10: thing that we felt like God had given us. And
39:24
Speaker 10: it's been interesting to see the last six years, to
39:26
Speaker 10: be honest, because it was slow growth until about six
39:29
Speaker 10: years ago, until I felt like the Lord give me
39:33
Speaker 10: something a bit unique, which was around specifically speaking to
39:37
Speaker 10: men and really helping them get unstuck. And we now
39:41
Speaker 10: call it the four pillars of life Spiritual, physical, relational, financial,
39:46
Speaker 10: and we challenge men specifically there and the ladies.
39:49
Speaker 9: Grabbed that, and out of that has come a lot
39:52
Speaker 9: of growth and a lot of really good things.
39:54
Speaker 3: This is quite a story. So you start this church
39:57
Speaker 3: again at the suggestion of your father in law to say,
40:01
Speaker 3: let's you know, you guys want to get into ministry.
40:02
Speaker 3: You're like, I don't know, let me think about it.
40:04
Speaker 3: I pray about it. Yeah, And at what point do
40:07
Speaker 3: you get this vision? Was it later? Was it early
40:10
Speaker 3: on that there's going to be this massive, mega church
40:13
Speaker 3: growing in Jersey.
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Speaker 9: Well, I hate the word mega church, so I will
40:17
Speaker 9: say that, so I'll join you. I would say.
40:19
Speaker 10: It's a growing church to me, megas ten twenty thousand people,
40:23
Speaker 10: where you're almost there.
40:24
Speaker 9: But anyway, good things are happening and it's encouraging.
40:29
Speaker 10: I would say this that revelation or insight or vision,
40:33
Speaker 10: those three words you can use either one.
40:35
Speaker 9: It is progressive.
40:37
Speaker 10: When I was called by God to preach at nineteen
40:40
Speaker 10: twenty twenty one, I did feel like in prayer numerous
40:43
Speaker 10: different times, I felt like I literally saw by faith
40:48
Speaker 10: large things is the best way to describe it. So
40:50
Speaker 10: when we really took a long time to grow, I
40:53
Speaker 10: would say we were five years in one hundred and
40:55
Speaker 10: fifty people. There was definitely some discouragement around that because
41:00
Speaker 10: we felt like something much larger had been placed in
41:02
Speaker 10: us and it just wasn't happening, you know. But we
41:05
Speaker 10: kept going to leadership conferences, we kept trying to be
41:08
Speaker 10: faithful with what we had, We kept building our team,
41:11
Speaker 10: building the culture, and then over time, I do think
41:15
Speaker 10: you start to see, man, what is your lane, your
41:19
Speaker 10: lane of ministry? How what is the flavor of church
41:23
Speaker 10: that you're meant to be? And I think it was
41:25
Speaker 10: when the Lord really gave me Men's transform that the
41:29
Speaker 10: flavor that I felt like matched probably the best with
41:33
Speaker 10: my personality, my gifting, my skill set, my even background here.
41:37
Speaker 10: I made you to be yeah, in college tennis, in
41:40
Speaker 10: coaching tennis, in athletics, and so forth. I feel like
41:44
Speaker 10: I wasn't very pastor as in, like you didn't want
41:48
Speaker 10: to come and meet me for counseling, if you know
41:50
Speaker 10: what I mean.
41:50
Speaker 9: I found counseling boring.
41:51
Speaker 10: I didn't want counseling, but I found stirring people to
41:56
Speaker 10: be more seemed to be my lane and what I
41:59
Speaker 10: felt like I.
41:59
Speaker 9: Was to do it. I love that.
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Speaker 3: So you said it transcends, right, The vision, the idea
42:06
Speaker 3: kind of changes, and that's when you found this lynchpin,
42:09
Speaker 3: if you will. It was focusing on men, men being
42:13
Speaker 3: the foundation of the family and realizing that's how you grow,
42:16
Speaker 3: you focus on men. It happened about six years ago.
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Speaker 3: Do you think there was something missing? And I don't
42:24
Speaker 3: mean missing in a detrimental way, I mean missing for years.
42:28
Speaker 3: I tried to lose weight, and it something eventually worked
42:33
Speaker 3: for me, and I don't even know what it is.
42:35
Speaker 3: I think maybe it's really just learning how to count carbs.
42:37
Speaker 3: But outside of that, yeah, they will right. You don't
42:41
Speaker 3: know you're drinking them, you're eating them. But something eventually
42:44
Speaker 3: made sense to me and I said, ah, this is it.
42:46
Speaker 3: And it sounds like that was that moment for you.
42:48
Speaker 3: But was that the only part that you were missing
42:51
Speaker 3: or in getting to men or was there some other
42:54
Speaker 3: lesson that you needed to learn yet to get you
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Speaker 3: to that stage?
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Speaker 10: The differently was a big aha moment literally in my backyard.
43:04
Speaker 10: I felt this phrase is the best way to describe it,
43:07
Speaker 10: pierce my heart.
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Speaker 9: Help men win in life. Five words, help men win
43:11
Speaker 9: in life.
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Speaker 10: And it was like that aha moment became a moment
43:14
Speaker 10: where I felt like I saw the culture we needed
43:17
Speaker 10: to be honest, was a bit frustrated at our own
43:20
Speaker 10: small groups at the time.
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Speaker 9: I kind of they're okay, they weren't.
43:24
Speaker 10: They weren't multiplying, they weren't growing, they weren't producing something
43:27
Speaker 10: what I would call vibrant or strong. But for ten
43:30
Speaker 10: years as a past I kept hearing the same four
43:34
Speaker 10: prayer requests something in the physical realm, the health, something
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Speaker 10: in your finances, my career, my money's a mess, something
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Speaker 10: in my relationship, whether it's a broken marriage, whether it's
43:44
Speaker 10: just relational drama. And then obviously faith questions, and so
43:48
Speaker 10: those four areas were almost in every single prayer request
43:52
Speaker 10: we ever got. So I'm like, wait, we don't so
43:55
Speaker 10: much have a prayer problem, we might have a application problem,
43:58
Speaker 10: or we might have a wisdom problem. And then one day,
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Speaker 10: just reading scripture Proverbst Three fifteen or sixteen, jumped off
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Speaker 10: the page, so to speak. It says long life is
44:08
Speaker 10: in her right hand. It says in her left hand
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Speaker 10: are riches and honor, and so Probst three or the
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Speaker 10: entire book is about seeking wisdom, but Probast three talks
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Speaker 10: about as you seek wisdom, here's the fruit, and the
44:20
Speaker 10: fruit is long life.
44:21
Speaker 9: That's your health, riches, your relationship to career, and.
44:24
Speaker 10: Money and honor can only come from to places God
44:27
Speaker 10: or people. And so what I saw in that was
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Speaker 10: in the hands of wisdom is the management of these
44:34
Speaker 10: four buckets that everyone was talking about. And so out
44:38
Speaker 10: of that and then there's this very unique, very well
44:41
Speaker 10: not unique, actually very known scripture that most people know,
44:47
Speaker 10: to be honest, especially pastors.
44:49
Speaker 9: Look two fifty two, Jesus.
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Speaker 10: Grew in wisdom, stature, faith with God, favor, with man
44:54
Speaker 10: and in those four areas is actually the four areas
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Speaker 10: of life.
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Speaker 9: And so we said, men, where are man stuck?
45:01
Speaker 10: Where men are sometimes stuck physically, often stuck relationally. Many
45:06
Speaker 10: times if they're doing well financially, the relational bit or
45:09
Speaker 10: the spiritual bit doesn't seem to gel. And then you
45:12
Speaker 10: meet guys who are amazing in their faith, amazing in relationships,
45:15
Speaker 10: but the other disciplines are really missing often in their world.
45:18
Speaker 10: And so I felt like we saw that we needed
45:21
Speaker 10: not just a culture of grace, we needed a culture
45:24
Speaker 10: of growth. And so we had to challenge men individually
45:28
Speaker 10: to get vision in those four areas. And then we
45:31
Speaker 10: had to hold them accountable and said, man, you said
45:34
Speaker 10: you wanted to grow here, so we are actually building
45:36
Speaker 10: a brotherhood that helps you win in life. And then
45:39
Speaker 10: at the same time these four areas, we're gonna hold
45:42
Speaker 10: you accountable. So it's not gonna be bagels once a month.
45:45
Speaker 10: It's not gonna be some quarterly thing. It needs to
45:47
Speaker 10: be weekly. It needs to be regular. And you know,
45:51
Speaker 10: you want to become more. And that's the thing I
45:53
Speaker 10: actually hear sometimes. I've heard this from Jordan Peterson. He's like,
45:57
Speaker 10: you know you can be more. And I think when
46:01
Speaker 10: you talk to men, you realize that they know they
46:05
Speaker 10: can be more. They're just not sure why. And I
46:07
Speaker 10: think there's something in their makeup that actually God has
46:10
Speaker 10: put in there.
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Speaker 9: That they know they can be more.
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Speaker 10: And so when you inspire them with the scriptures, with
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Speaker 10: the grace of God, with the love of God, not
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Speaker 10: shaming them, but building them up to these four areas,
46:22
Speaker 10: now they rise, become better husbands, they get their health
46:26
Speaker 10: under control, they lose weight, they pay off debt, and
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Speaker 10: then they even start growing in the relationship with God.
46:32
Speaker 10: And before you know it, good things are happening at home,
46:36
Speaker 10: Good things are happening. As a dad, good things are happening,
46:39
Speaker 10: or they want to get married because they're just kind
46:41
Speaker 10: of play in the field, so to speak.
46:44
Speaker 9: So we just see a lot of really good things
46:46
Speaker 9: out of that.
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Speaker 3: There's so much going on. Yet it's a beautiful day.
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Speaker 3: You wouldn't think that back in the day Jesus was
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Speaker 3: on his way to getting hung on across right about now.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, no, absolutely, it is a beautiful day outside. Spring
47:03
Speaker 10: is here. Here's what's interesting about spring that I've been
47:05
Speaker 10: thinking about a little bit as i've been just praying
47:08
Speaker 10: and thinking and preparing for the messages. Is spring itself
47:12
Speaker 10: speaks of resurrection. The seed in the ground that looks
47:15
Speaker 10: like it's dead, buried, it's dark, and then life comes.
47:20
Speaker 10: Winter itself just coming out of a pretty long winter
47:23
Speaker 10: to be honest, in Jersey, in New York, and you know,
47:27
Speaker 10: I'm in Jersey and I'm a little bit northern Jersey,
47:29
Speaker 10: so i feel like we've got longer winter, and I'm like, man,
47:32
Speaker 10: I'm ready for the sun. But winter it's dark and
47:36
Speaker 10: it's and it's cold. But then life starts to come.
47:39
Speaker 10: And so during these times, I think, actually there's parts
47:43
Speaker 10: of nature that even speak to us of the resurrection.
47:47
Speaker 10: And then the other unique thing that I've been thinking
47:49
Speaker 10: about personally is.
47:50
Speaker 9: This the sun rises every day.
47:53
Speaker 10: The sun rises every day, and perhaps God in times
47:58
Speaker 10: past we're saying, man, I'm going to give them such
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Speaker 10: a sign that one day, yes, my son will die,
48:03
Speaker 10: but yes my son will rise from the dead, and
48:06
Speaker 10: I'll remind them of it every single day.
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Speaker 3: Man, you should be a pastor.
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Speaker 9: Well, I'm trying, man, I'm trying.
48:14
Speaker 3: Folks are here with Pastor Anthony Fleming, and it's an
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Speaker 3: impressive message and I think there's people listening right now.
48:22
Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of people listening right now
48:24
Speaker 3: that may be inspired by what you've been talking about,
48:27
Speaker 3: and they don't live close enough to churchill live to
48:30
Speaker 3: participate in person. What do you recommend to them?
48:35
Speaker 9: First? Pray? First, pray if you want to get need
48:40
Speaker 9: of God.
48:41
Speaker 10: He says, if you'll seek me with all your heart,
48:43
Speaker 10: I will be found by you. Use the Lord's prayer
48:46
Speaker 10: as a model for worshiping first, thanking first, asking for
48:52
Speaker 10: your needs, surrendering forgiveness.
48:54
Speaker 9: Take yourself through the Lord's prayer.
48:56
Speaker 10: That'll draw you close. But then do find a place
48:59
Speaker 10: where there's life, where there's the gospel is preach, where
49:04
Speaker 10: people's lives are changing.
49:05
Speaker 9: Where you can tell this The best way to describe it.
49:09
Speaker 10: If you've ever walked into a restaurant and you smell
49:12
Speaker 10: the smell the people in the atmosphere, you'll smell it.
49:16
Speaker 10: Sometimes in the church you'll walk in and you'll go, oh,
49:19
Speaker 10: there's something going on here that people keep on coming
49:21
Speaker 10: back for the.
49:22
Speaker 9: Great steak, the great chicken, the great whatever whatever they have.
49:26
Speaker 10: In a life giving church, there will be life life change,
49:31
Speaker 10: and there'll be people growing. There'll be people excited, there'll
49:34
Speaker 10: be joy, and you'll find purpose there to.
49:36
Speaker 3: Our listeners that are listening right now, and they're saying, man,
49:39
Speaker 3: this guy's great, but he's got it all together. Things
49:41
Speaker 3: are fantastic for this guy. And they're not doing fantastic
49:44
Speaker 3: right now. They're down in the dumps. They're facing something serious.
49:47
Speaker 3: There are people that lost their kids yesterday in a
49:49
Speaker 3: shooting in a school yesterday or Thursday. There was the
49:53
Speaker 3: mother of Rachel Morin was in the White House sharing
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Speaker 3: what it was like as her daughter was raped. And
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Speaker 3: and there's so much ugly things, so many ugly things
50:03
Speaker 3: that happen in this life, and there are people dealing
50:05
Speaker 3: with that. And it's great to be upbeat and to
50:09
Speaker 3: feel good about the resurrection, but there are people who
50:12
Speaker 3: just aren't there yet. What's your advice to them?
50:15
Speaker 10: Gosh, pain is one of our greatest teachers, unfortunately, So
50:19
Speaker 10: when you say life is not fair, when you say
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Speaker 10: life is hard, you're actually agreeing with scripture that things
50:25
Speaker 10: are broken, that things are not the way they're meant
50:28
Speaker 10: to be. That since the garden hasn't been fair, and
50:31
Speaker 10: so pain and evil and tragedy has been introduced to
50:35
Speaker 10: the world. But we do serve a savior who didn't
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Speaker 10: just stay afar. He came close, and not just close,
50:43
Speaker 10: but he literally identified with our struggle, heartache, pain, and
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Speaker 10: then even went through the worst of pains being crucified
50:52
Speaker 10: on a cross. And so we do so of a
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Speaker 10: God that can identify definitely without pain.
50:57
Speaker 9: I do think I think it was C. S. Lewis.
50:58
Speaker 10: He said, God whispers to us in our pleasures, but
51:02
Speaker 10: he shouts to us in our pains. And sometimes it
51:05
Speaker 10: simply says, Hey, the way you're living right now is
51:08
Speaker 10: not working.
51:09
Speaker 9: I have a better way.
51:10
Speaker 10: And so if you're going through tragedy, obviously you know
51:14
Speaker 10: my heart goes out to you. But God is close.
51:17
Speaker 10: He is near, and he's actually near the broken hearted.
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Speaker 3: Amen to that. Pastor. Let everybody know how they could
51:24
Speaker 3: check out one of your sermons. Are they available online?
51:26
Speaker 3: What's the website? Tell us how to find you?
51:29
Speaker 9: Hey, YouTube always works. Church Alive NJ.
51:32
Speaker 10: You'd type in and then churchilive dot tv would be
51:35
Speaker 10: where you could see that wrote a book recently called Transform.
51:40
Speaker 10: You can check out transform themovement dot com. Any of
51:43
Speaker 10: those stuff is going to encourage your faith and hopefully
51:45
Speaker 10: build your life.
51:47
Speaker 3: Well, there you have it, I mean, he goes. The
51:48
Speaker 3: book is called Transform. Make sure you've got a copy
51:50
Speaker 3: for yourself and every single person that you love and
51:53
Speaker 3: give it to them as a gift. Make sure you
51:55
Speaker 3: do that. Make sure you go to Church Alive dot
51:56
Speaker 3: TV stream the sermon. I go to this church. I
51:59
Speaker 3: vouch for the church. Pastor Anthony's got some solid teaching. Sir,
52:02
Speaker 3: You're a gentleman, a scholar, and a patriot. And I
52:04
Speaker 3: want to thank you for being here.
52:05
Speaker 9: God bless you, Thank you man.
52:07
Speaker 3: It was honor being here, my pleasure. So I mean goes.
52:10
Speaker 3: That is Pastor Anthony Fleming again. He's the pastor senior
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Speaker 3: pastor over at Transformed Church formerly known as Church Alive.
52:18
Speaker 3: And that was a conversation we had last Good Friday,
52:21
Speaker 3: and I wanted to bring it to you as a
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Speaker 3: Flashback Friday because I thought it was an excellent conversation
52:26
Speaker 3: and because from that time till this time, I actually
52:30
Speaker 3: got a chance to experience the first what they call
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Speaker 3: season of Transform. And the reason they call it transform
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Speaker 3: is because it's truly about people transforming their lives through
52:41
Speaker 3: the ministry of Christ and understanding it that way and
52:45
Speaker 3: not to get overly spiritual, and on my soapbox, I
52:48
Speaker 3: am going to say those four buckets he mentioned it
52:50
Speaker 3: was four categories of physically, spiritually, financially, relationally. This is
52:57
Speaker 3: you know, they break it down into like a semester, right,
52:59
Speaker 3: you go for twelve weeks. And I'd say that's one
53:01
Speaker 3: of the biggest blessings that's come out of me not
53:03
Speaker 3: having to be somewhere between nine pm and midnight every
53:06
Speaker 3: single day, is that I can be there on Mondays
53:11
Speaker 3: when they ask me to be there. And I've been
53:13
Speaker 3: going to these transform gatherings and let me tell you,
53:17
Speaker 3: absolutely fantastic, absolutely fantastic. I really enjoy the camaraderie and
53:23
Speaker 3: the things that I've learned, and it does make a difference.
53:27
Speaker 3: And this is not necessarily a Christian thing per se, right,
53:30
Speaker 3: it is in the sense of it's in a Christian
53:33
Speaker 3: church and you're studying Christian scriptures. But I'm saying the
53:36
Speaker 3: larger idea, the idea of improving yourself in at least
53:41
Speaker 3: three of these areas, maybe not the spiritual area. These
53:45
Speaker 3: are all very generic positive things that everybody should do.
53:50
Speaker 3: So for all those people that are out there saying,
53:52
Speaker 3: you know, I've always wanted to get back to church,
53:55
Speaker 3: it's been a while. Maybe I'll go this Eastern Maybe
53:57
Speaker 3: I'll go for Christmas. Maybe you should just go to
53:59
Speaker 3: this Monday night group. And again, I know not everybody's
54:02
Speaker 3: in the New Jersey area, and I know that there
54:03
Speaker 3: are a number. I think there's probably nine or a
54:06
Speaker 3: dozen other churches across the country that have adopted this
54:09
Speaker 3: Transform program and those who want to get the book
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Speaker 3: by Anthony Fleming. It's called Transform the Movement. But I
54:17
Speaker 3: bring all of this up to say, people by and
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Speaker 3: large need to improve. We need to do better, not
54:23
Speaker 3: just for ourselves and not just for our walk with God,
54:26
Speaker 3: but more so because of society at large. Right, society
54:31
Speaker 3: at large is probably the biggest indicator. When you look
54:33
Speaker 3: at the stories we talked about tonight, people poisoning one another,
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Speaker 3: people bombing one another, these are our problems that excuse me.
54:48
Speaker 3: They aren't things that we want to go through, right,
54:50
Speaker 3: I think these are things that by and large, we
54:53
Speaker 3: wish we weren't going through, We wish was not happening.
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Speaker 3: So how do we get a better resolution on things?
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Speaker 3: How do we get a better handle on things? How
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Speaker 3: do we have better I'm going to call it intra
55:06
Speaker 3: human relations, right, how do we get along better with
55:08
Speaker 3: one another? I think that's how when you try to
55:13
Speaker 3: embrace your faith and live through the fruit of the spirit.
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Speaker 3: It's obviously a toll order for many of us, at
55:18
Speaker 3: least it is for me. Ay, I see a pretty
55:21
Speaker 3: woman and I'm like, hey, shut it, and I am
55:24
Speaker 3: driving my car and I'm quick to get angry. Road
55:26
Speaker 3: rage is a thing. But I realize those aren't the
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Speaker 3: things that God has designed you or me to do,
55:33
Speaker 3: or how He's designed us to respond. And there is
55:36
Speaker 3: a blueprint, all right. The Apostle Paul said, follow me
55:40
Speaker 3: as I follow Christ. If you don't know how to
55:41
Speaker 3: do it, just watch him. And there are so many
55:44
Speaker 3: examples out there, from the Apostle Paul to your local pastor.
55:49
Speaker 3: In this instance, it was my pastor. So I'm going
55:52
Speaker 3: to leave that right there and let you chew on
55:54
Speaker 3: that for a while. I hope you'll get a copy
55:55
Speaker 3: of his book. It really is fantastic. Could follow them
55:58
Speaker 3: on social media Transformed Church and Jay and you can
56:01
Speaker 3: check out their YouTube page as well. At Transformed Church.
56:05
Speaker 3: Pastor Anthony Fleming, his lovely wife Miriam Fleming. They do
56:08
Speaker 3: a fantastic job, great leadership team there, and really just
56:14
Speaker 3: good people, good people, and a good church. And the
56:19
Speaker 3: bigger message it's Good Friday, right, the death and the
56:22
Speaker 3: resurrection of Christ. And this is where I will get
56:24
Speaker 3: on my soapbox just briefly and say that Christianity is
56:28
Speaker 3: a rather absolutist faith, right. It's absolutely rooted in Christ
56:34
Speaker 3: being the Messiah, Christ being the Christ, right, Jesus being
56:39
Speaker 3: the Son of God, God incarnate, both all man and
56:44
Speaker 3: all God at the same time. And it is this
56:48
Speaker 3: idea of the triune God living an earthly life you
56:51
Speaker 3: ever yet never sinning, that is a conundrum for many,
56:56
Speaker 3: but the ultimate testament of of comfort for many others. Saying, man,
57:02
Speaker 3: if this guy did it and he paid the price,
57:06
Speaker 3: you know, on the cross at Golgotha on Good Friday
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Speaker 3: two thousand some odd years ago, that gives me a
57:14
Speaker 3: shot to make it into the pearly white gates. And that,
57:20
Speaker 3: you know, simplifying it as I am, is truly the
57:23
Speaker 3: gospel message. It's Christ's crucifixion, Christ's resurrection and our eternity
57:31
Speaker 3: in service to Him and in communion with Him. And
57:34
Speaker 3: I think that's a beautiful thing. So anyway, thanks for listening.
57:38
Speaker 3: I bid you adieu here and I say, you got
57:40
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57:42
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57:46
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57:48
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