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#36 - Kyle Ranauro: Pro Shop Noble · After-Hours with Faction! Motorsports

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  Hey guys. Frankie here.
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  Bringing you another episode from our California trip on this
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  episode. We have Kyle from Pro Shop
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  Noble. He's got a shop located in
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  Riverside, California, and he basically makes parts for 240SX
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  has, and he also has like little JDM Trinkets, and stuff like
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  that. Also sells magazines, his shop
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  isn't complete yet. He still putting the finishing
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  touches on it, but it was really cool to get a look at what he's
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  got going on for the last year. Or so, it's honestly going to Be
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  a really cool spot. So if your local to him in
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  Riverside, California, I would definitely swing by once.
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  He's open, I think you guys are going to be impressed by how
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  clean his Workshop area is. So this one was a little
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  difficult in the beginning. We were doing this in a big
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  empty room with just the two cars in it.
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  So there was a pretty bad Echo. I was trying to adjust the audio
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  for a while and Kyle cell phone also kept going off.
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  So definitely a rough beginning to this podcast, but just give
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  it some time. And I promise this is definitely
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  a really good episode. Just got to get through the
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  first 10-15 minutes. I want to say, other than that,
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  this episode is definitely worth the listen and hope you guys
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  enjoy. Welcome everyone.
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  A faction after hours. We are of again, bringing you
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  another podcast from California. This time, we're in Rivers are
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  we Riverside, Riverside? California even, we've been
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  driving around a lot. We have another guest as you can
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  tell. like, This is, this is a really cool guests.
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  And also my first time meeting you Kyle, and, and we have Kyle
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  of Pro Shop Noble, we're here at a shop.
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  This is probably one of the most interesting buildings,
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  definitely the best background we've had so far.
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  Yeah, but yeah, thank you. Thank you for coming on.
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  Thank you for heart for hiring you happy.
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  Yeah. Did you want to tell the
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  listeners kind of what Pro Shop Noble is?
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  Is it a is it out automotive shop?
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  Is this somewhere where they can bring like come To you with a
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  vision and hopefully get along. Yeah, that's one thing we did
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  cause like, Tessa's a crazy stuff.
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  Yeah, we went over your cars and we went over the shop.
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  We didn't really talk about like the shop worker.
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  If you work on customer cars. Yes, yes.
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  So, we'll be taking on like if customer if someone who has a
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  project or something, they can approach me.
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  I'm not taking on Service as much like oil changes and stuff
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  like that. Yeah, and I started, Shop there
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  was just hustling every job, you know, from engine swaps to
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  whatever and now, definitely shop still open.
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  Just hit me up. Yeah, so you were working out
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  of. Were you still in Riverside?
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  Your first job. No.
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  It wasn't Santa Ana, probably. So you guys were at Apec.
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  See. So it's probably like a
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  20-minute 15-minute drive from there.
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  Okay. So we've been all over
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  California, the past two days. Yeah.
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  Like I don't know where I'm at ever.
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  We went to every section of l.a. County.
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  I feel like yeah. Right on the edge here.
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  Yeah, right now we're past it right or like slightly past it.
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  This is considered, is it? I have no well you kind of use
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  the word? Yeah.
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  No this is outside. This is outside of yeah, like
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  slightly yeah, but yeah, we were we've seen pretty much all of
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  l.a. County.
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  We're just cool because we me a called never really.
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  But we I don't ever the entire Drive coming here.
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  I was like, where are we going? And he was like, oh, She worried
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  and I'm like, well I'm just gonna keep driving straight, I
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  guess. Yeah but thanks this is this is
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  rare for me and us. I feel like because we had
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  somebody named came from Super life who was more into like the
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  tuning of the exterior aspect of it.
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  But the thing is it's not even just exterior for you.
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  You're in their interior tune and engine bay.
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  Tune, these two cars, you have, you have an s13 in an S14, both
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  326 power, very sex. Type of thing.
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  And what's funny is you said that it was a dying style.
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  Like mmm. I don't I feel like it's not
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  like I got you're saying that's coming back for sure.
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  Like absolutely it is comfy. If not already coming back.
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  Yeah, but if I was raising their cars up.
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  Yeah, right. Like yeah, to me in my head when
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  I was someone as is me coming in like a fizzy, see a track car,
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  then that thing should be Slammed like people drive over
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  Penance who like I know you like because it's going to be on a
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  trailer. I'm not going to deal with all
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  this BS. Yeah I mean I think she'd be
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  slammed and look awesome but it's now you know I respect the
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  hustle of these guys pushing their driving.
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  Yeah to limit. Has that been something that's
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  ever interested you because s chassis.
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  The one of the first things that everybody thinks of this o as
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  chassis drifting. Like I feel like there first
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  Instinct isn't automatically to use the origin 50 mil over as a.
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  Yeah, I can now fit a fatass American Racing Wheels like that
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  is. Yeah, I mean originally the car
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  was intended to be on 19 and 20 20 inch wheels.
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  Oh wow. What are that?
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  Would have been those are only 18 s and they look.
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  So it's rare for me to see a 19 inch wheel and person.
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  I'm not going to lie because what Frankie's shop really
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  focuses on is As chassis and drifting.
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  It is yeah it is most. So usually see normally over
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  like an 18-inch wheel but when you see a 19 that shit looks
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  fucking huge to. Yeah.
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  Like 18. 19 Sagar is pretty crazy.
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  Yeah. Like I do wish I still had my
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  last set of SE force that were on there in those pictures.
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  Hmm. But that be the 19 is tires, are
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  actually getting really hard to get really because you're going
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  to have her like a rubber band type of 20 bucks 20 to 25 35.
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  Oh my God, 35. So these are unheard of specs
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  for me, you know? And I was just ready to kind of
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  change it up because I had just been in the world of 19-inch
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  1819. Staggers sense like 04.
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  Hmm. Oh wow, that's my coop.
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  Was on 18, 19. S that my fortune, my 14 was on
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  20s but I'm picturing in a double addition.
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  I played Midnight Club. That was that was one of my
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  more. Favorite games minute Club DUB
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  Edition. Specifically they had an IS 300
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  in it but 20 sudden S14. Yeah, yeah.
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  I could tell I could tell your style from like looking at the
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  magazine you know particles and stuff that you were in the
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  wheels are always super big. Yeah.
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  And and definitely heavy as fuck.
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  It was it was just put just pushing the I saw that is put
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  you know people guys are looking at driving and pushing their so
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  to me the chassis Spect of pushing myself, pushing myself
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  to fit those Wheels into go be able to go full lock.
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  Yeah, and drive the car normally was.
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  Yeah, like wait, I this is new for us because from a style
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  aspect. You basically compared that
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  you're in two different ways, you're pushing yourself to
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  different drivers, two different car owners, two different
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  personalities. I feel like one person is like,
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  oh, I got to push my driving and You're pushing the chassis.
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  That's such an interesting way. That you said that?
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  Yeah, like he's trying to fit like it's really, it's really
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  fitment. Yeah.
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  That will fit in sizing and I try to make it what what's like,
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  what's an inch who do you have any and it's inspiration or like
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  or you're just like I'm just going to keep outdoing.
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  My so there's you know, like like definitely I like we were
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  lucky here in California. We had like Japanese bookstores.
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  Uh-huh. So you had roasting a lot of Of.
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  A lot of you could get a VIP style magazine and I would look
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  at those but I'm not looking at them.
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  Well, I was interested in VIP cars and I was able to work on
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  for other people. As far as I was, looking at him
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  a4s chassis and then also, of course, 326 power 3 to 6 power,
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  You know, and his, you know, it Su 2 receiver harder, Gucci with
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  his cars and how he was approaching his car, the
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  chassis, the chassis and you know, he like built the GS, that
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  was awesome VIP card. Yeah.
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  And then drift on Goku would come over to a shop and they're
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  like, oh we're just going to go take this out and drift it and
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  they just shred. Yeah, I mean I just think of
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  that the FCC He is always like the car.
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  I think of usually a lot of other cars that he built that
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  are really interesting. Like after that car.
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  Yeah. That he just he built like these
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  Mazda sedans and stuff I sing. I sing the testicles, he'd go
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  crazy on him and I just I just admired that.
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  Yeah, it sounds like you're not and not not caring about what.
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  Other. You know what other people
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  really care? Yeah.
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  And just pushing yourself and that, that's You know, I just
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  got lost on that. It's like a totally different.
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  Like, aspect you mentioned. You went to Japan when it was
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  that like a life-changing moment for you?
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  Yeah, because 326 power, I'm assuming you went there, right?
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  It's interesting. So, the first time I went and I
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  got to go too. I get three to six Powers
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  holding like a drift and the last time they were hold these,
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  like, drift and dress up events. So I went to one and I literally
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  was Kind of over my coop. My first bill at burn myself,
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  out on this car. I had spent all my money.
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  Oh, shit. And that's just doing everything
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  and I went. I saw their cars.
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  I saw how they built them and I realized I was taking this too
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  serious. Okay thing.
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  Oh, yeah, because I'm sure you got the acid.
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  You got the, the whole like Finally, you got to see how
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  they're actually building the cars.
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  And like because I everything I hear about Japan is like the
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  tools are shitty, like everything they have like is so
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  low quality, but the car is packed.
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  The shops are packed their dust. Don't like dirty their shit.
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  Everything. No organization.
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  Like this one like super organized.
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  It's like the opposite of this so I could see how it's probably
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  like life-changing. Yeah, go on there.
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  But that, that seeing how they built those cars that You just
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  unique clearance, you just hammer it.
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  Yeah you know like I was taking this car and I was doing all
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  this sheet metal work and like had this is your Coupe.
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  Yeah and literally like I took so the car remember I told you I
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  had a sunroof. Yeah, I went to the junkyard.
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  I took a know. You did son.
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  It bothers skin. I went to a community college
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  that had Auto Body program to learn.
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  I want to learn sheet metal. Do they?
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  You could get the tools The Jig and fixtures.
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  So to properly, hold the chassis, and then, replace the
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  skin. Yeah, yeah.
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  On the roof. So what I did is I took the skin
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  and I took it off reverse. So then the skin was perfect.
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  Like I remove the spot welds. Yeah.
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  And that side and then also they had cut out because I had a
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  aftermarket sunroof, they had cut out all the bracing and then
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  I replaced it. I was right.
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  I took the part. And instead of just like
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  building it up, you know welding it on.
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  Drilling holes in welding it all back.
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  Yeah, I filled all the holes and then I painted it with weldable
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  primer and resistance spot welded everything back in and
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  silicon bronze. The seams and the correct way,
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  and some of roofs. So, exhausting it was, it was,
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  it was a, it was like, yo, you're building a car?
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  That was like, so like as far as a school, those two semesters of
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  school for me. Me too.
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  That's right. I think we need to also
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  acknowledge the fact that that's just a testament to what kind of
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  Builder you are. You're like let me learn about
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  this. I'm going to take a class at a
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  community college to get knowledge so I can get my
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  expert. Pretty much.
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  How old are you doing dish? I was I was pretty much so I was
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  pretty close out of high school. Okay.
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  So so your be rebuilding, your coup, in high school or right
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  out of high school right out of high school.
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  Okay, I started. All right, well, I started
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  ordering parts when I was still in high school.
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  Okay. I think I had, I think last
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  couple of months of like high school.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  What was it like, ordering parts back then.
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  It was like the law not to age. You hear the wild west?
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  It was like, you know, Finding just random Brokers that say
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  they bring they internet for no. Sales.
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  Yeah. And you're like, can you buy
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  from this company Beyond Sports? And they're like, What?
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  And then shipping that. Yeah.
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  And they're like, what? Okay and yeah I mean one of the
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  the yeah it was it was just a wild west I think is a cool
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  winter. It's just like and then like I
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  went over to work Wheels USA at the time, okay.
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  And I just started bugging them and bugging them and bugging
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  them. Like hey, and I meet they were
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  very nice to me as an annoying kid and they taught me a lot
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  about wheels and I presume to order the most aggressive set of
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  your line. Th has in 18s and 19's, I think
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  it was like a - like 19 by 10 - 45 and 18 by 9.
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  Negative. Twenty-something and they're
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  probably like this is never going to feel like we want to
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  order this because we've never seen wheel this wheel with that
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  aggressive of offsets so we're cool.
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  Like they expressed enthusiasm and as a kid, I would be fucking
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  on the mood like that's what this is talking to me.
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  Yeah, cuz I thought you were going to say something like
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  yeah, you open a magazine and and there's like a bunch of
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  parts catalogs and then there's an inquiry form.
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  Or a number that you call like like a mail-order tight.
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  Like a mail order type. Like when you see like like like
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  when you opened Superlight, not soup, not necessarily.
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  It could be super Street, or probably in there.
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  But like, you'll see like this sheet of Wheels.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  And you're like, as a kid, I personally didn't understand
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  Logistics because I was a kid when magazines were out.
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  Yeah. And I was always just like how
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  the fuck are people ordering this because yeah, there wasn't
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  the internet wasn't as like Of those limits though, the company
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  that was doing the work Wheels District, they still do
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  distribute work Wheels in USA. They have been doing it since
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  the early 90s so they even, you know, people that built for it
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  like legitimate race cars and serious stuff that need, you
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  know, Center locks and yeah. Like the real stuff that work
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  wheel cells, they had been supplied for rally cars.
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  Is that where in the u.s. is it also your California?
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  Yeah so I just added it to my list.
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  This is this is just a damn Hub of because we mentioned a bunch
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  of companies earlier and, and your you were out just now,
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  you're like, we American Racing is down the road.
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  Yeah. And I was like, what the fuck?
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  I didn't know that. But it just, it's just so
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  amazing to me. That that's the route that you
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  always take. For example, we were talking
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  about your building here and I was like, did you did you do
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  this? And you're like, just the
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  drywall wasn't done by me. Yeah, and the door, this, this
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  Gigantic steel door which had no idea had a crazy amount of
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  hired. A lot of people help you for
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  sure though. But speaking of hired do this, I
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  want to say that this is a one-man operation right now.
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  Yeah you're making Parts making Parts on them which we didn't
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  even get to talk about yet and selling parts and doing social
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  media which is a task on its own.
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  Yeah and the social media looks good.
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  There's social media looks great.
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  I have it is The bane of my existence I dislike social.
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  I mean, you know, you need it, but you don't want to, you know?
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  Yeah. I mean, I joined, I really do
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  enjoy connecting with people. Yeah.
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  Like that's the whole thing that's this is all about.
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  When you get down to the brass tacks of why we're into cars is
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  really the people that you meet. Yeah.
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  I mean it's just unbelievable. Yeah.
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  When he's kind of like the whole point of this.
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  Yeah, just podcast. I always bring it up.
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  I'm like one of my favorite things.
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  Is the fact that I Frankie kind of blessed me with the
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  opportunity to do this because I get to come and do this.
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  I've met you a few minutes ago not a few minutes.
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  We've been here for a little bit but we met and I'm like what the
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  fuck? This guy is.
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  So cool. It crazy that you can come like
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  across the country and meet someone and have some level of
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  like connection. Yeah.
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  Where it's like you could go into like you know you go to a
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  restaurant, you Justin Room full of people and you're just like,
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  have no connections to the isolated.
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  You can just isolate, clear. Isolated and then here it's
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  like, you talked, we talked together when that yeah, we're
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  talking about the same Brands and the same style, but like,
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  it's like a clash of cultures that is like, I'm especially
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  here because his way of building cars is different from, like,
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  what we're doing at the shop. But it's similar in certain
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  ways, especially I feel like in the engine bay because these are
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  not just show. Yeah, they're both that one.
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  The escort Tina. A lot less than S 13 because 14
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  is more like the if every car calm relaxed when you guys see
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  this YouTube video that turbo and there's pretty big.
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  Yeah and I think you said this one, what has 500?
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  That's 13 is 5 or sometime. It was Dino toes.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  This height don't know if you can see it in the video but if
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  you can just watch our YouTube video that we had on this trip
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  and you'll see it. That is I just I keep looking at
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  that because I can't unsee it. That's a good salary and Inches
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  of the rim. Yeah, fucking Fender and like
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  this. This reminds me of like like
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  when you built this car, which is like what?
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  14:12 somewhere around. There are 2,000.
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  Yeah, I think I started on it around 2012.
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  Yes, and this brings me back to that because I remember seeing
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  so many cars at this height like and drifting too.
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  So yeah, it's pretty interesting.
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  I feel like I want to and I think you're going to you're
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  going to make a statement when your car comes back out.
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  Well, I I would never run it. This low not not this low but
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  your car right used to Frankie's.
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  Car is pretty low. Yeah.
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  See, it's not all about that. Yeah.
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  Like people come to me and they're like, yeah, yeah,
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  there's a way, you know, the car can be styled right at the right
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  height? Yeah, this car.
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  If it was an inch higher would not look right.
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  I get what you're saying, like the tomb to, to me.
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  Yeah. I just, I completely understand
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  what you're saying because just the way the body kit is like It
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  being higher the body kits going to have more of a gap and like
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  it's not all going to come together the way that you
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  envisioned it, you know. I mean, so I totally understand,
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  you're saying and I'm kind of the same way with my car when
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  I'm putting it together. Like, and I have a 17 18 set up
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  and I've Beyond Sports, so, you know, I'll be in sports.
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  It's like very level with the ground type 2 type, 2, or type
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  3. But yeah, so it's very level
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  with the ground. The Cooper, it's a hatch.
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  But like so 1718 each had to get the height, right?
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  So What you end up with? Is the front Gap looks bigger
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  than you want it to? Yeah, it's all it's like It's
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  interesting because if you look at a lot of the cars that were
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  styled with the Beyond Sports and you look at the there,
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  stammering staggered, he like, how do they look good?
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  Good. They're running about 9:00 9:30
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  to 10 degrees in front camera. Yeah, so I really picks up the
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  wheel the top of the wheel and the wheel right?
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  That compensates that Gap. Yeah.
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  The risk. And that's pushes the corner
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  that Rim. Yeah.
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  You look at the like if you look at the type 3 patch kit.
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  Yeah. Like the red demo car with the
• 21:10
  inverted hatch. Yeah, look at you.
• 21:12
  Look at the front camber. You know, like that's what they
• 21:14
  did with the 1918 1919. A sense, I've just spent so much
• 21:18
  time looking, I appreciate that kind of stuff and it's like it's
• 21:22
  the same thing with like, like the 14.
• 21:28
  It's like, I knew the number that I wanted Six Degrees of
• 21:32
  camber Okafor. I did that set up, okay?
• 21:35
  And then I built that car. I did like around that around
• 21:42
  that in then. Like it's running spacers which
• 21:47
  in America we seem to have a thing against the.
• 21:49
  Yeah. There's like some weird thing
• 21:50
  against Pacers but if you go to look at the like all the like
• 21:54
  the older, if you look at not even the older but the Japanese
• 21:57
  Democrats are already in spacers.
• 21:59
  Yeah, they're fucking wildly thick.
• 22:01
  Yeah. They're looking for in that car
• 22:04
  is perfectly Square. Mmm, front and rear.
• 22:07
  Which drives me crazy on for teens, because, you know, the
• 22:11
  hardest thing that always is, As for teens taper, the rear the
• 22:16
  wheel wells tape that the body tapers in the back.
• 22:19
  So the how front of the wheel? Well and the rear of the wheel?
• 22:22
  Well are different are different.
• 22:23
  It's you know you can't be the front is a little wider and
• 22:26
  tucking any Rim, it's got to be flushed to the rear of the
• 22:29
  wheel. Well.
• 22:31
  Oh, okay. Because the front and then you
• 22:33
  always have a gap in the front. Yeah, I'll never look at as
• 22:37
  thirteenth and fourteenth the same after knowing some of the
• 22:39
  things that I have come here. It's I found out.
• 22:43
  How did you find that out? Yeah, like that's what I'm
• 22:45
  wondering. Just like fitting.
• 22:47
  A lots of just yeah, screwing with it too much because I
• 22:50
  thought you were going to go the other way where you're going to
• 22:52
  be like, you know, when you start extending lower control
• 22:55
  arms and stuff like that and then the front starts getting
• 22:57
  wider in the rear still, like the same track with, that's
• 23:01
  usually our problem because will run like, S14 lower control
• 23:04
  arms, to, you know, help with drifting in a way.
• 23:06
  But then, The front starts getting wider.
• 23:08
  Yeah and you look at it from the back and you're like now I just
• 23:11
  don't like how it looks right. Yeah yeah like that the rear on
• 23:16
  the 13 It's a 30ml longer lower control arm.
• 23:20
  Oh wow. What the fuck?
• 23:23
  That's a lot that's a lot dude, because the axle fine.
• 23:28
  Is it, get the axle? So what are you?
• 23:32
  What are you doing here? Cancels because I can't run
• 23:35
  like, people think I'm running really low off.
• 23:37
  Offsets on my coordinates not because the arms are actually.
• 23:41
  Yeah, the arms are just pushed out.
• 23:42
  You don't have any problems with the act that you have an axle
• 23:45
  spacer. A car that comes to mind for me
• 23:47
  on. That is an S2000.
• 23:48
  Well if you think about it, so discourse that car really low
• 23:53
  and I'm not running a drop knuckle because I can't run up
• 23:57
  that much tuck on our wheel and run a drop nickel because of the
• 24:02
  jump. The how you will Cycles.
• 24:04
  Mmm, you have to run a stock knuckle because The camber gain
• 24:08
  is more aggressive essentially, so it clear, the fender
• 24:11
  interest. So when it gets that low it's so
• 24:15
  close and everyone keeps blowing up a box of wheat back there.
• 24:18
  Everyone blew up axles and I just started extending it.
• 24:22
  And, you know, essentially, like when you look at the back of
• 24:26
  that car, the arms are up like that.
• 24:27
  Yeah, but since it's been spaced out, the axle has and then
• 24:31
  Excellence enough plunge because it sounds like a lot, but
• 24:35
  because it's gone up so much. It's back out that the axle
• 24:39
  still see, you're kind of giving it, you're giving it more room,
• 24:41
  it's weird. Because when you think about it
• 24:43
  right off the bat you're kind of like wouldn't that make it
• 24:46
  worse? No.
• 24:47
  But it's and then you know like if you look at the axles when
• 24:53
  because that's still running the old, tripods about running, like
• 24:57
  the z-axis. Yeah.
• 24:58
  I which I want to do actually you watch him like he put on a
• 25:02
  Dyno or something, you watched axles, they jump in and out.
• 25:05
  Okay, so A lot of times when guys block, they literally, they
• 25:10
  bottom out on the inside and like, when I was doing, like,
• 25:15
  people, I knew were taking their axles off, you could see the
• 25:19
  dents, wow, from the plunger. Yeah, I've actually seen axles
• 25:23
  fall apart from the inside too, because they just, they just go,
• 25:26
  they Smash down. So when having it extended out a
• 25:30
  little bit, it gave it enough room.
• 25:31
  So the axles actually. So when you actually really
• 25:34
  interesting because we literally would think the opposite Yeah.
• 25:37
  Like people make spacers and everyone's like if it's
• 25:40
  interesting like I had this car had a heavy exhaust on it, but
• 25:46
  that engine could I put a the first setup was really quiet
• 25:50
  because I had some idea that I was going to drive this thing on
• 25:52
  the street with 510 horsepower. But you could hear the axles.
• 25:57
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 25:57
  And so when you roll into it I take it back.
• 26:03
  I'd move that same with the 14 and I'm crazy, just keep playing
• 26:08
  with that and then like it's not, you know, like so that's
• 26:12
  actually it's a modified May control arm.
• 26:16
  Yeah, yeah. And you know like every control
• 26:18
  arm you see has has that the function for the a little bit
• 26:24
  join area, the ball joint, my I was like to I run a flat because
• 26:28
  if you think about almost every set up you're almost on the edge
• 26:31
  of the ball joint. Yeah.
• 26:32
  And I came to realize that that That makes sense too and that's
• 26:36
  something that a lot of us don't think about.
• 26:38
  I was literally saying, I are literally thinking in my head
• 26:41
  I'm like Everyone who's running. Who's blowing Z axl's?
• 26:46
  Right. Yeah.
• 26:47
  What if that's like a different issue that I feel like we don't
• 26:50
  even really have. I don't think shit.
• 26:53
  I'm like that's probably short. You should be able to move like
• 26:57
  right now, go under that corner that corner you can do an inch.
• 27:03
  A good inch play play and it's not falling out of the cups.
• 27:08
  Okay. Yeah.
• 27:09
  That I just it's like it's because of you know.
• 27:13
  Okay the car was originally wheel was down here, bodies up
• 27:16
  here. Yeah, you're like the opposite
• 27:18
  and then you extend it out and it's just like it career.
• 27:22
  Is it a little bit? I don't know.
• 27:23
  I guess I guess the real thing is there's a certain there's
• 27:27
  there's a height at where? This all changes.
• 27:28
  Yes. You know I mean and you're
• 27:30
  obviously at that you're past that point.
• 27:32
  Absolutely. I think this does apply a lot of
• 27:35
  times. I had customers come to me, and
• 27:37
  they just wouldn't, they would just be going through.
• 27:41
  They would do this first round on their build where they buy
• 27:45
  finally, by control arms, they, by control arms for the Their
• 27:51
  car. Yeah and first thing is take out
• 27:55
  all dark, Amber take all that camera and then all they are
• 27:58
  driving their cars and Katakana and shortening the this your,
• 28:08
  you know, let's say your natural camera was like that.
• 28:10
  Yeah, you took it out. Now, you have too much.
• 28:13
  You talking, the rear upper taking out the rear upper if you
• 28:16
  go to Canberra and now you're hearing that you got that you
• 28:19
  got the ball joint coming. Towards the edge, okay?
• 28:22
  Of its limit. Yeah.
• 28:24
  And then You know that. Yeah.
• 28:28
  And then but that's why I always notice is.
• 28:31
  So I mean you could at that point put a spacer on.
• 28:35
  Shorten it up. Yeah.
• 28:36
  Helps out with that. Yeah.
• 28:37
  Then you get past this, the sanity Mark and you go stupid.
• 28:41
  Yeah, that's really what it is because I'm thinking in my head
• 28:44
  I'm like okay so with the axle the axle is relatively straight
• 28:48
  then you should be pretty good. Depending on how far you put the
• 28:50
  it's all just feeling that axle and making sure there's play an
• 28:53
  extra is enough punch. That's so if it's like You move
• 28:57
  it. And yeah, I remember I ran axle
• 28:59
  spacers once those shit that shit flew off in The Hairpin
• 29:03
  English. See that's that's that's my
• 29:05
  thing is, I'm like, wood axle spacers, it then Just make the I
• 29:11
  think it depends on every application.
• 29:14
  Yeah, it depends on your height and go.
• 29:16
  What you're running. You best know.
• 29:17
  I'm gonna go home and grab my axles and go like this because I
• 29:21
  have that gook ago. I might be, I can't remember.
• 29:25
  I might be running 14. Axles on that, okay?
• 29:28
  So that's all so I extended it but I know.
• 29:30
  But running a longer Axl was helping you helping me.
• 29:33
  Yeah, I can't remember who it was.
• 29:35
  Yeah, years ago, I messed with that rear end online and that at
• 29:39
  set up. Yeah, it's interesting but it
• 29:41
  kind of makes sense with the height.
• 29:43
  Now it's with the Z axles you have I mean because they're a
• 29:47
  different design their yeah, they're like the ball.
• 29:49
  Yeah. All captured.
• 29:51
  Okay. During and then you got people
• 29:53
  that are just breaking these things because of power levels
• 29:55
  and drifting. Yeah, so that's the kind of
• 29:57
  different. But now it's got me thinking
• 29:59
  when I see one that and somebody's complaining about
• 30:02
  they're going through axles and stuff.
• 30:03
  And I'm seeing the height now, I'm going to think about it
• 30:05
  differently. I'm like well is it because of
• 30:10
  Is it too late to scheinman? Is there is that?
• 30:12
  Is it the dress? Now I'm going to be looking at
• 30:14
  this differently and again, mental note, like, like I need
• 30:20
  to, I need to take these mental notes into consideration because
• 30:23
  like I'm learning constantly and I need Russa is 300 only told
• 30:28
  you. Yeah.
• 30:29
  But I'm I'm just like the way that you attack these problems.
• 30:34
  Just astounds me because again, you had a problem.
• 30:38
  You're like I'm going to fucking sit here.
• 30:39
  And figure this shit out. Yeah, like as an example, I'm
• 30:43
  just going to bring up. Again, you have a handful of
• 30:45
  good products on your website that you make.
• 30:47
  One of them being such a simple concept to have its a spacer for
• 30:53
  the rear lock of an s13, when you to have a Type X Center
• 30:58
  garnish for your taillights. And like, that's so me and
• 31:02
  Frankie just keep talking about this.
• 31:04
  Yeah. So we were, we were going over
• 31:05
  your stuff this morning because we were going to come here and
• 31:09
  we're just looking at your It's and what not?
• 31:10
  And I was like, I saw that one. I was like no fucking way.
• 31:13
  Always like like my first thought when I see something
• 31:15
  like that. It is always how the fuck am?
• 31:17
  I this stupid that I didn't think about this?
• 31:19
  That's always my first thought and then I'm just like I would
• 31:23
  100% use that. Yeah but literally just screwing
• 31:28
  just like so simple. Yeah.
• 31:31
  But I screw up things a lot. Yeah, I just keep I have a
• 31:36
  tendency to keep futzing with things even when they're okay
• 31:39
  and I Keep fussing and I screw them up and then I have to go
• 31:42
  right back and figure it out another.
• 31:43
  Yeah. It's kind of like I had taken on
• 31:47
  as I was going through Tails a lot and it was just one of those
• 31:49
  things, I was kind of always going through my head and then
• 31:52
  also, Like trying to teach myself the drawings.
• 31:58
  Yeah, 3D printing is that was completely.
• 32:01
  That's a whole nother thing and literally made any products
• 32:06
  because I haven't worked. Yeah, but that was a very easy,
• 32:10
  you know, like and there's a, that was a, that was a, it was
• 32:14
  more of like, Like a project. I want to learn how to make this
• 32:21
  pattern. Yeah.
• 32:22
  How do I make it thicker? So you're like making a product
• 32:25
  but you're also just using it to teach yourself how to do it.
• 32:27
  And the other thing is like, I have this thing with 3D printed
• 32:30
  stuff, right? I usually hate it because I hate
• 32:33
  seeing what it how it looks but you found a perfect using
• 32:37
  because you'll never see that it's hidden.
• 32:39
  I'm just because again, I asked you earlier, like, hey is, do
• 32:43
  you have like a business background or something because
• 32:45
  you're you found a market? Get for your parts so you found
• 32:48
  your funding when you were younger.
• 32:51
  Like oh shit. Like I can actually do this.
• 32:53
  That is when you know you're telling me you taught yourself
• 32:55
  how to do CAD stuff that was only about four years ago, the
• 32:59
  parts of Hearts. Okay.
• 33:01
  This is this is just like again you, if you if there's something
• 33:04
  that you want to do you just guess you just gotta call
• 33:07
  fucking do it. Yeah.
• 33:08
  Like because again, while newer when we were driving here, me
• 33:14
  and Frankie, we always kind of have these little powwows before
• 33:16
  the podcast. It's kind of like what should we
• 33:18
  talk about? Like blah blah blah.
• 33:19
  Like half-assed planning something for once.
• 33:23
  But I said if somebody's gotten this far and everybody's going
• 33:29
  to tell you again, that's too low that does this.
• 33:33
  But you continue to pursue something that to me is passion
• 33:38
  and this is like a gigantic passion project.
• 33:40
  You got going on here, it does. Because again, this is an
• 33:42
  awesome facility from the outside.
• 33:44
  It looks like a sick almost looks It's kind of Javanese
• 33:48
  building looking because it's a square from the front, it kind
• 33:51
  of does. Yeah, and the roof tiles that
• 33:52
  you guys got here in California that are orange and whatever
• 33:55
  color. Yeah, it's like it just a
• 33:58
  passion project that it's, you know, I think I'm thinking about
• 34:01
  to it's like there's so many parts that have came out in the
• 34:05
  last five years. That helped five to ten years.
• 34:10
  Maybe that really helped lowered cars drive.
• 34:12
  Well, you know what I mean, this doesn't have any of it.
• 34:15
  That's what I was going to ask you probably Because you were
• 34:17
  doing all this before that really happened, like even the
• 34:20
  parts shop. Max, like we're Knuckles front.
• 34:22
  Yes, all that stuff. Yeah.
• 34:25
  Like these are the like, the 326, the cut Knuckles, okay.
• 34:30
  And they're not the best Knuckles, but it's fine.
• 34:32
  It for being what you actually actually haven't driven on.
• 34:36
  Okay, yeah, we'll see how but but as far as clearance they
• 34:40
  were, what's your front tire rod set up like what's your call it
• 34:45
  a Kia formula? With is it like a, just, a bull
• 34:48
  outer so like, you know, the key formulas have like the
• 34:50
  adjustable inner. It's like two guys seems like
• 34:54
  the and then I have the rack spacer.
• 34:56
  Okay. So I've racked spacer IQ
• 34:58
  formula. Now, then I would have a height
• 35:00
  adjustment on the outer. No, no.
• 35:02
  Okay, so it's still like a stock stock setup.
• 35:05
  So they're probably like shooting to the Moon right now.
• 35:07
  Yeah, you know what, I always sound funny to about that is
• 35:10
  people make like the inverted mounted ones.
• 35:13
  Is that what you're going to say?
• 35:14
  No, I'm thinking about like, SPL and all those companies don't
• 35:18
  make like Roll center. Correction outer tie rods,
• 35:20
  right? Yeah, I've always had this thing
• 35:23
  where they usually make the car feel worse.
• 35:25
  They do because essentially you're taking the bump steer and
• 35:30
  you know you have a lower control arm like this.
• 35:32
  Yeah and if you make the tie rod sit down, it's two different.
• 35:39
  It's to yeah, aspect ratio. So as it Cycles instead of it,
• 35:43
  you know, having a little bump steer Out feels okay yeah bump
• 35:49
  and toe in it makes it what the fuck?
• 35:53
  Now I don't want to. I know, I don't want to
• 35:54
  Sentimental. I don't want to sit here and act
• 35:56
  like we're both Engineers. So it maybe we're missing
• 35:58
  something, but I feel exactly the same way that you're
• 36:01
  explaining it to, because we will put some of those on
• 36:04
  customer cars. And we'll try to adjust the
• 36:06
  height and it's like, it never feels.
• 36:08
  Yeah. It's never, right.
• 36:10
  You put it at zero toe and it you just you go drive it and
• 36:13
  you're like, do this is dangerous.
• 36:14
  Yeah, that's how it feels. Yeah.
• 36:16
  Yeah. I've tried them and I ran that I
• 36:19
  ran. Those ever since I had Knuckles
• 36:21
  on my car, I'll never and it feels like shit.
• 36:23
  I've never run. I'll never ever going to run,
• 36:28
  like adjustable outers. The just flowers are like any
• 36:30
  sort of roll center. Correction heim joint style tie
• 36:33
  rod end. Okay.
• 36:35
  Yeah. Just run a captive.
• 36:37
  Yeah and I mean first three cars and yeah and I mean I'm thinking
• 36:42
  eventually I mean I'd like to definitely try to Max the drop.
• 36:46
  Chuckles might be up in Washington's running.
• 36:48
  I'm he swears by them. I think so.
• 36:51
  When I installed those in my car, this is a while ago.
• 36:53
  You running the there, the I'm running like the street.
• 36:56
  You know, they didn't normal front Knuckles there, drop
• 36:58
  Knuckles. And then I'm running the rear
• 36:59
  ones and I'm not running The Crazy Ones.
• 37:00
  I think they have new ones. I'm running like the not the
• 37:03
  first gen but I think Tommy sent me like a changed version.
• 37:07
  Maybe like 2018. Okay, it's funny because I'm
• 37:12
  pretty sure I hate to talk on something.
• 37:14
  I'm not 100% 100% sure on. On.
• 37:16
  But one of them like the front ones, are the rear ones, you put
• 37:19
  them on and you have to raise your car up like an inch or
• 37:22
  something because has an inch of Correction.
• 37:24
  Right? And then the rear I think it was
• 37:27
  the rear the rear really did help a lot but the front was
• 37:31
  almost the opposite or something.
• 37:34
  It was like because they're extending where the ball joint
• 37:37
  is picking up on the bottom. There's not the strut Tower,
• 37:41
  right? But the rear is moving.
• 37:45
  I think it was moving the strut Tower something and not the
• 37:47
  pickup points of the arms. I don't know.
• 37:49
  It was one of the others but yeah it was like doing the
• 37:51
  opposite from front and rear. So in the rear you actually
• 37:54
  gained suspension travel, I'm pretty sure and and all the arms
• 37:58
  were able to clear the you know subframe and everything like
• 38:01
  that. So yeah, the rear I really liked
• 38:04
  a lot. If I ever read this car I would
• 38:06
  probably. I mean I mean I probably would
• 38:11
  make offender if I was making like a fender I would make With
• 38:15
  a drop chuckle? Yeah.
• 38:17
  I mean I would be the other question.
• 38:19
  How the hell like what is the control arm?
• 38:21
  Like the upper control arm set up on this like oh first, the
• 38:27
  first batch PBM our guys back when, you know, the angled ones,
• 38:31
  you know, the ones with the gnarly.
• 38:33
  Okay. That you know, it's like this.
• 38:35
  Yeah. I got a funny story about that.
• 38:38
  I had those arms. And then I got their Knuckles
• 38:41
  and I went to use both of them and I remember there was a
• 38:43
  problem with it. So I talked to Tommy, He was
• 38:45
  like yeah, we're actually in the middle of trying to ditch this.
• 38:48
  Yeah. And then that's when they fixed
• 38:50
  it and they I think they sent me a different rear upper that was,
• 38:53
  they have that the new upper and then that upper doesn't work.
• 38:56
  It works. Okay with the stock Knuckles but
• 38:59
  but not a perfect clearance is not that.
• 39:01
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 39:03
  There's a lot of pertinent information here like a lot of
• 39:05
  critical information lokar's for lokar's to drift correctly and
• 39:10
  for some reason I don't know why but when you were explaining it
• 39:13
  the the stroke of the suspension and And when you're instead of,
• 39:17
  when you're hitting a bump and it's Towing out, which yet and
• 39:21
  drifting would feel great. If you have a role Center
• 39:24
  correction, I'm picturing it as like a circle, like your
• 39:27
  suspensions traveling like this and they're working together and
• 39:30
  it's and at to a point I feel like it's meant to go like that.
• 39:35
  Yeah. Well you want you want the lower
• 39:37
  control arm and you want the tie rod to be kind to be together
• 39:41
  function together. If you look at a stock Factory
• 39:43
  setup, this is a little guy. Troll arm.
• 39:46
  The tie rod is always a little bit higher higher.
• 39:49
  Okay, so then it toes. I see and the a lot of the other
• 39:55
  set of, you know, if it's even if it's level, it's okay, feels
• 39:59
  good, right? But then people but then you
• 40:01
  have to think like oh I gotta I gotta I gotta Roll center.
• 40:03
  Correct that the outer tie rod but it's like yeah you're doing
• 40:06
  that but you're not compensating lower control arm.
• 40:09
  Yeah, so it's it's one of the suspension is just Yeah, trial
• 40:16
  and error. Yeah.
• 40:18
  And and a combination of parts to like, if you're running a
• 40:20
  drop knuckle and then you go to run an outer tie rod that has a
• 40:23
  role Center correction. You might be compensated
• 40:25
  overcompensating, you know, because they would have took
• 40:28
  that into consideration with the knuckle.
• 40:30
  Yeah. And for for an is there the
• 40:33
  suspension setup is like you have a ball joint, that's on the
• 40:35
  bottom. Yeah, is set up as a nightmare
• 40:37
  and and now I'm thinking in my head I'm like because once I put
• 40:41
  that knuckle on the car drives like shit on the road.
• 40:45
  When what does it do? Does it bum steer?
• 40:47
  But yeah. Like, hell, it's like a bolt on
• 40:51
  solution from drift HQ. Lot of those same for the front,
• 40:55
  the front, the front. So this is like an RCA.
• 40:58
  Yeah, kind of yeah, it's a roll center adjustment with also
• 41:03
  relocating the sticking point for this, I regret the pickup
• 41:06
  point for the tie rod as well as this spindle kind of spaces out
• 41:10
  so it offsets that's the part. I don't like yeah that that its
• 41:14
  Paces to spend a lot. Because now, it's like, it has a
• 41:16
  wild amount of front camper has. It has a wider track within the
• 41:19
  front two, which is like a pain in the ass, like because I used
• 41:22
  to make RCA's for us. GS what, what the fuck?
• 41:29
  Like, but how what haven't you be, dude?
• 41:32
  Well used to be, I don't know. You know, battle version.
• 41:35
  Yeah, he was right out here and oh shit man.
• 41:41
  And he was a guru of. Yeah, he really liked the FCS.
• 41:45
  Just because they were different.
• 41:46
  And yeah, she most of the suspension on Toyotas seems to
• 41:48
  be the same in the tarot, front of your boss battle version.
• 41:52
  You want to talk to him? You want a good set up?
• 41:54
  You talk is he where is he? He's no he's up in NorCal
• 41:57
  knockout, he does mostly Porsches.
• 41:59
  I think if I'm not oh oh really God but Jesus he still self
• 42:03
  stuff for still sells his battle versions like his tried and true
• 42:06
  battle version stuff. Okay but I am not sure I think
• 42:10
  it ships out from down here so I think it's still all my down
• 42:13
  here but he's He's one of the coolest, guys.
• 42:16
  You can talk to like if you want no bullshit, No Frills.
• 42:20
  No hype, no, nothing. You just want to talk
• 42:24
  suspension? Yeah, he talked in, he's really
• 42:28
  nice guy and he knows his would be cool to do.
• 42:32
  We have like a list were making right now of all the people that
• 42:34
  are in NorCal, Alex is one of those guys.
• 42:37
  That's, that's one of those names when you hear it.
• 42:39
  It just sounds so fucking vegetable.
• 42:41
  Yeah, I don't know version. Yeah, Alex Pfeiffer.
• 42:44
  And I mean, He was just like he came, he was when he went to D1.
• 42:49
  I mean we all lost our mind. He was someone who was, you
• 42:53
  know, he's like a locust. You normal.
• 42:55
  Yeah that's crazy. What the fuck.
• 42:58
  He's just a really humble. That's another another yet.
• 43:02
  Another component of the car industry like our industry is in
• 43:08
  California. Yeah just I didn't realize or
• 43:10
  not be able to add to the list that this state has in terms of
• 43:14
  autumn. Motive insolence, I think he
• 43:16
  makes something for the. I don't know if he makes it for.
• 43:19
  The is I'm going to definitely take, but I think he, I think he
• 43:22
  he makes a roll center adjustment.
• 43:26
  But it I think I know the part you're talking about your cut
• 43:28
  the ball joints. Yeah.
• 43:29
  See his his I can't remember what his does, but I don't think
• 43:35
  it adjusts the scrub as much as what you're running.
• 43:38
  Yours essentially moves the wheels.
• 43:40
  Yeah, exist does not. Just I don't think I'm trying to
• 43:45
  fix. I was just it's just a spacer,
• 43:47
  it just goes straight through so you're just running longer bolts
• 43:49
  and then it has the different geometry for the top of the tie
• 43:53
  rods interesting because I think that's what you're running on
• 43:57
  the Cressida. We're running xss excessive or
• 44:00
  accessory kind of a similar design but here's the thing.
• 44:04
  Miyagi has. He has a role Center correction
• 44:08
  piece and then we put the knuckle under it's basically the
• 44:11
  same situation as yours. Oh But even worse because it's
• 44:14
  like two separate pieces, and I had to like modify one.
• 44:17
  I don't. One of them is a techno toy
• 44:19
  part, which is a really nice part.
• 44:21
  Yeah. And then we had to put the
• 44:23
  excessive part on it, so we had to, like, cut the, the Techno
• 44:26
  toy. Tuning one up.
• 44:27
  It was so bad. It sounds terrible.
• 44:29
  I'd it works. But it's like it's just totally
• 44:31
  different from a Nissan like those run, this function is
• 44:33
  funny because back like going back.
• 44:35
  So I was making those are Cas and we were just mostly doing
• 44:38
  it. Because guys were still, it was
• 44:41
  still those body cars. Mostly VIP and guys wanted more
• 44:46
  camber. And but then a couple guys
• 44:51
  started running on for drifting and really liking the higher
• 44:53
  scrub and you know, it it's just a whole nother thing and you can
• 45:00
  always keep screwing with this. Yeah, I just went on Battle
• 45:02
  versions website its down, is it unfortunately?
• 45:06
  Yeah damn that's a real big bummer.
• 45:08
  That must be recent because Darryl just ordered some stuff
• 45:11
  from there, a couple months. I mean, it could be my fault.
• 45:13
  Phone. But I'm pretty sure because
• 45:14
  every link I'm clicking on from their websites, bring me to
• 45:16
  this. He, you know, like yeah, it was
• 45:18
  cool. You just used to go go over
• 45:20
  there and he would just be literally just sit there all
• 45:22
  night with it. The jig's just smoking
• 45:26
  cigarette, cigarette and Welding up control arms.
• 45:29
  Yeah, yeah. All night long.
• 45:31
  So he's doing all that just handmade.
• 45:32
  He was used to do it now. I think someone's doing a yeah.
• 45:35
  So now I think someone took he works with someone down here.
• 45:39
  They still do all the manufacturing just because the
• 45:40
  machine shops are down here. Yeah, he's here.
• 45:43
  And he's working up in Norco. He's got his whole family and
• 45:46
  everything up there, okay? Yeah, hopefully it hopefully
• 45:49
  he's still doing that stuff. He's only to look at that.
• 45:51
  I have a lot of stuff. I need to check on my car.
• 45:53
  After talking about suspension with you like it, suspension can
• 45:57
  get deep, you could really go down the road, the rut rabbit
• 46:01
  one. What do you do you have any
• 46:04
  aside from you know, finishing your showcase space in your
• 46:07
  workspace. Like do you have any future?
• 46:08
  What's your what what's what are you going to do next dude?
• 46:12
  Like Like what else? More products?
• 46:14
  Make more products? Yeah, that's the goal because I
• 46:19
  see that as the most sustainable sustainable thing, it's funny
• 46:22
  that you bring that up because that's exactly what Jason was
• 46:24
  saying on our last podcast. Really?
• 46:26
  Yeah, well, he wanted. He was like, I really want to
• 46:28
  make Parts like he wants to sell parts.
• 46:30
  I mean, to your way under way, dude.
• 46:34
  Like, yeah, you impressed me in every way, shape and form, and
• 46:36
  there's going to not be a doubt in my mind where I'll see your
• 46:39
  name on something. Well, I hope so.
• 46:41
  Then you get the hardest thing is, I don't Have the mind for
• 46:43
  the computer aspect of it. So, all the projects, I've done
• 46:48
  have been relying on someone else, someone else.
• 46:50
  And I've had a couple projects, three or four products have just
• 46:55
  Fallen by the wayside because I paid someone else or something.
• 46:58
  One. And it never.
• 47:00
  Did, you know, I can relate to that feeling pretty safe.
• 47:03
  After the first payment, just it dwindles down.
• 47:06
  Communication, are you need to reprise something?
• 47:09
  Yeah. Or let in my situation will be
• 47:10
  like a friend or something like, oh yeah, I'm gonna do.
• 47:13
  This and then it doesn't have. So and I really, I really, as
• 47:18
  far as the drafting software and stuff, I can't get it.
• 47:22
  It's just like a square peg in a round hole.
• 47:26
  Yeah, for me, I don't even try. So I mean, you know.
• 47:29
  Yeah, you're well ahead, but I feel like for me when I went,
• 47:33
  when I can't do something, I think we talked about this.
• 47:35
  Everyone has their own specializations, right?
• 47:37
  Yeah. Like I would go to somebody with
• 47:40
  my vision and the problem There is that if it's your vision and
• 47:45
  somebody else is trying to execute it, it will never be the
• 47:48
  way. Yeah, you want it to be like
• 47:50
  doing stamp steel. Like she Metal Products, I mean,
• 47:53
  that's to me, that's the bread and butter to a lot of products
• 47:57
  is she metal and now 3D printing.
• 48:01
  I mean yeah. 3D printing is like think it's and scanning like
• 48:06
  standings, you know, like I so I released My spoiler for the
• 48:12
  yeah. Which I love by the way, thank
• 48:14
  you. And that was so that aspect.
• 48:19
  I knew of making FRP Parts was the old school way.
• 48:23
  You just take foam. You make one part.
• 48:26
  You pull the mold off of it. Yeah.
• 48:28
  So I worked With the Cody from Castle designs, sounds familiar.
• 48:39
  And that was an awesome. That was a whole nother
• 48:41
  experience because we took it, he 3D scan the car and we
• 48:47
  essentially 3D printed the part and then I took the part and
• 48:51
  finished working it and then had the mold pulled off of it and
• 48:54
  that was a whole other learning experience.
• 48:57
  And yeah, I mean, it came out awesome.
• 49:00
  That's like, we are looking at that wing.
• 49:01
  Ooh, ooh. So it's a wing for a 180sx or
• 49:03
  hash 240. And it's, you know, it's one of
• 49:06
  those D-Max style but it's got like a little twist on it.
• 49:09
  Yes, all the things I would. That bothered me.
• 49:12
  Yeah. Hike.
• 49:15
  I wanted to make the spoil my head.
• 49:18
  I wanted to make a spoiler that just mounts on the back of the
• 49:21
  car literally. Okay.
• 49:22
  And I might continue, I might make that version.
• 49:25
  Yeah, yeah, but this was when we were working together, this was
• 49:29
  like this, this might sell that the other design is what you
• 49:33
  want. Yeah, I got your sis.
• 49:35
  This is you have to make a compromise here there and it
• 49:38
  really fits its of view. It's a really nice piece and
• 49:42
  it's been a learning that was a whole That took a long time.
• 49:46
  Yeah. Because it just was you know, a
• 49:50
  big learning. Yeah process.
• 49:52
  And you know, definitely Mickey. I don't think though is it's
• 49:59
  done okay but it's definitely not done as well as I hoped.
• 50:04
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 50:06
  And I feel especially with the chassis is people or not wanting
• 50:10
  to do new new designs. Yeah.
• 50:13
  For the cars. Con to the point where it's
• 50:16
  become, you know, you it's a classic.
• 50:20
  Yeah, and people and people are trying to replicate something
• 50:23
  that they saw. Yeah.
• 50:25
  I mean, they're like, I liked it, you know, that with that kid
• 50:27
  with that Wing, you know, and it's like, everything's kind of
• 50:31
  already been done. Yeah.
• 50:32
  Unless you're going to like, I mean, my hats off to origin with
• 50:35
  the race line stuff. Yeah, because I, I saw the race
• 50:40
  myself and I was just like no yeah, yeah yeah, like it wasn't
• 50:44
  going. Work.
• 50:45
  Yeah, I but they, you know, I think, I think it's definitely
• 50:49
  the people who have run the race line that image is.
• 50:52
  What sells? Oh, yeah.
• 50:54
  That feel is for sure. So, it's just, and it's the same
• 50:59
  thing but I don't know. I would love to make new Aero
• 51:04
  Parts. Yeah.
• 51:05
  I just don't know how to go about it.
• 51:08
  Notice what the style people, if people are going to want it.
• 51:12
  Yeah. You know, like you see guys in
• 51:17
  Japan like still pushing and they do small, you know, can't
• 51:23
  remember the name of the shop but they do like these radiused
• 51:27
  over fenders over stock Fender General is Warra body.
• 51:31
  I think it's called, but, you know, it's great to see it.
• 51:35
  People are still pushing it and I just, I don't know.
• 51:40
  I don't know if people want new stuff.
• 51:42
  Yeah, I mean I feel the same way, you felt The origin kit and
• 51:45
  I still do but then you'll see it on like Neo Keys car.
• 51:47
  Yeah. And you're like all right like
• 51:49
  it could work, it can work again like with certain it's are
• 51:53
  different Market because you think of a racing line it's a
• 51:56
  lot shorter. It's not more on the ground as
• 51:59
  much. It doesn't have that like
• 52:00
  hovering it's literally a completely different style than
• 52:04
  what we're used to with the body kits because usually the body
• 52:07
  kits were made to be lower. So your car didn't have to be
• 52:11
  low. Yeah, you know, so we kind of
• 52:12
  give it that look. Even though people like us were
• 52:15
  just slam the car anyway, but that was the whole point.
• 52:19
  Like B in sports would be ridiculously extended that way.
• 52:21
  You. Yeah, could be higher but now
• 52:23
  it's almost like the style is changing.
• 52:25
  The cars are getting higher and the body kits are getting
• 52:27
  higher. Like I don't, I it's well then
• 52:30
  are less. You go to like that.
• 52:31
  What's that new origin line? Which won the super aggressive.
• 52:35
  It's got like 50 do is on with the dues.
• 52:38
  Yeah yeah yeah. Oh Fu Jian attack attack, attack
• 52:42
  line. Yeah that's another I don't
• 52:43
  know. They have a body.
• 52:44
  It's like yeah it's like this tall.
• 52:46
  Yeah, so the but I mean they got the under panels and everything.
• 52:50
  I love all of it though. It's great.
• 52:53
  Yeah, it just gives everyone more options on what to do.
• 52:56
  Yeah, but it's just definitely, you know, it's I mean, like I
• 53:01
  make Miata, the skid plates. I saw those skid plate.
• 53:05
  I know, how are you cutting? So that's like stamp stealing.
• 53:08
  Those are those are laser laser claims that's what I do.
• 53:11
  Well, I said plasma but I don't even really know.
• 53:13
  Know what medium they used to be laughs.
• 53:15
  Oh my God it's the same thing I used to having plasma but now
• 53:21
  the company which I just found out I was going to order another
• 53:25
  batch. The shop I was having cut them
• 53:28
  like you're not cutting enough. Yeah I need to the minimum needs
• 53:31
  to be a minimum has to be way higher than like we're going to
• 53:33
  drop you. So I got to find a new company
• 53:37
  which it just is like a bidding process.
• 53:39
  Yeah just get out and yeah that's right to ask but Miatas.
• 53:45
  I love, I love the meana. It's such a fun car and it's it
• 53:50
  has a great. The community is great.
• 53:53
  Yeah people that own them are Fant fantastic and definitely
• 53:59
  want to make more parts. You got to be a certain type of
• 54:01
  person to drive a hairdresser car around you know and still we
• 54:05
  know what's funny is is Kyle is tallest.
• 54:07
  Fuck for those of you who are watching, he is tall as hell.
• 54:10
  I'm going to see him in the mirror and I'm trying to picture
• 54:13
  you in the me. Iata.
• 54:14
  Because does your head surpassed the so I have to like slouch.
• 54:21
  Oh yeah or or common thing is what we'll what I want to do in
• 54:26
  my next car I build his I'm actually going to lower the
• 54:28
  floor. Damn, which is actually a pretty
• 54:32
  common practice, is it? Yeah.
• 54:34
  They sell kits to do that o in the Miata.
• 54:37
  Semi-autos to lower the floor. Like the place of floor pan,
• 54:40
  almost on that side or something.
• 54:42
  Yeah. Drops that But my first actual
• 54:46
  feature was in the Miata. Oh really?
• 54:49
  I was featured in speed Hunters. Okay, long time, long time ago.
• 54:56
  Yeah, she's judging by that. I don't I can't think of when it
• 55:01
  was but it was it's just one, it's just an odd.
• 55:07
  It's a one of those odd cars. It's just and Ike.
• 55:11
  So I feature Did that car and and 15 by 10 steelies and, you
• 55:18
  know, now God, now it's like kind of frowned upon but back
• 55:21
  then. I feel like steelies were no
• 55:22
  one. I mean, I bought those Wheels
• 55:25
  because Diamond racing is out that.
• 55:27
  Well, your guys's way, I don't even know where they are.
• 55:30
  I have a weird feeling to be in like Indiana.
• 55:32
  They're like, yeah. Someone and I, and you and
• 55:35
  that's a wild guess, I literally filled out like a piece of paper
• 55:39
  to them with specs and send it to them.
• 55:42
  Like you, you, you could You could call them literally like a
• 55:45
  male and they're like, we need a hard copy of what you want and
• 55:48
  you mail it in. It was like, like, like six $55
• 55:53
  a wheel and they'd made them. And they're like, they're like a
• 55:56
  wheel. Yeah.
• 55:57
  They're like, and they're like, what are you putting these on
• 55:59
  and like, a Miata and they're like, that's really going to be
• 56:02
  bad for the hub, bearing. Yeah, I the, the car I had
• 56:08
  bought, I had bought off of, I had bought her off of fent
• 56:11
  friend and he had 15 by 10 equals.
• 56:13
  Whips. So we already had worked the
• 56:16
  fenders. I put those diamonds, the steel.
• 56:18
  He's on it and people just went it was the weirdest thing people
• 56:23
  want bananas. Yeah.
• 56:24
  I think not and to go back on like making arrow and the and
• 56:29
  the wondering if anybody will buy it.
• 56:32
  Hmm. I think it's harder to make a
• 56:35
  bigger ticket item like that. Yeah.
• 56:36
  And expect to sell and batches. Yeah, you know, like for
• 56:41
  example, the skid plates, I think from like a profit
• 56:44
  standpoint and a business standpoint that skid plate is a
• 56:47
  lot better of product. Yeah, absolutely.
• 56:50
  Especially for somebody like you.
• 56:52
  That's a fucking one-man operation here.
• 56:54
  Yeah. Yes, amount of time.
• 56:57
  You have to invest into making Aero Parts.
• 56:59
  It's a long time and I feel like it's not going to come back in
• 57:02
  terms of investment, but I definitely want to like, what
• 57:06
  I'd like to do starts talking some of the, like, kind of tried
• 57:10
  and true kits being sport. Yeah.
• 57:13
  I do offer for people, they want to buy purchase it I guess or
• 57:18
  say import Beyond Sports, wonder, whatever, all those
• 57:23
  kids. I can get all those kits but
• 57:26
  just the amount. Now I have a little more space.
• 57:29
  I could actually carry a few of them.
• 57:31
  Yeah. What would you what?
• 57:33
  What chassis would you carry on hand?
• 57:35
  Just out of curiosity? Well, I probably a probably s13
• 57:40
  hatchback. Yeah, for sure.
• 57:43
  Not, I probably wouldn't, I wouldn't because I so I imported
• 57:50
  I worked with the guys at Neo project to import their fenders.
• 57:56
  For S14. They make I think the nice one,
• 57:59
  a nicer up as 14 over fenders. Neil project sold the molds,
• 58:06
  2326 power. Another solder 326 car name.
• 58:09
  Wow. But I've had a heck of a Time
• 58:12
  selling anything a little They're a little bit different.
• 58:14
  They look like a stock Fender. That's flared a little bit.
• 58:17
  Yeah, not like a big / / Fender. Yeah.
• 58:20
  And I've had a, heck of a Time selling them.
• 58:22
  Yeah. And so, it probably just do a 13
• 58:25
  Hatchback, for sure. In stock.
• 58:28
  I mean, we're in the same business, we stocking are like
• 58:32
  that, I mean to gamble. Even for us, like, you would
• 58:34
  think, we would be pretty, we have a good shot at selling it
• 58:37
  because we have Drifters all around.
• 58:39
  It's coming out sideways all and they break everything so they
• 58:41
  don't want legit. I mean origin seems to be the
• 58:45
  easiest one because it's the cheapest one.
• 58:48
  How has it been? You know, how is the quality?
• 58:52
  Because we ordered some fenders for a guy and it was just like
• 58:55
  yeah I mean so the fenders are the quality on Origin stuff is
• 58:58
  never been high to me at least but and to pretty much everyone
• 59:03
  I've spoken to but I've never had a situation.
• 59:05
  Me personally where I've put the fender on and I would say this
• 59:08
  is unusable now keep in mind and building drift cars.
• 59:11
  Yeah. So if I Building a show car and
• 59:15
  I try to put it origin fender on.
• 59:17
  I'd be pretty upset. Yeah.
• 59:19
  Because I ordered some some origin fenders.
• 59:24
  The last Parts I ordered and I don't know if they I think they
• 59:27
  were just put two green. They are boxed up to Green.
• 59:30
  Yeah. And the fender was like boat
• 59:32
  until you know the natural shape is like if you're looking down
• 59:35
  the front of it. Yeah.
• 59:36
  Like that. It was like that.
• 59:38
  Yeah. I haven't had anything really
• 59:39
  bad but I have heard stories. So Jimmy Smith.
• 59:42
  Jim. Yeah.
• 59:43
  Yeah. He was like, I mean, that was
• 59:45
  kind of hard to fate. Yeah.
• 59:46
  And he was a, he was bummed about.
• 59:48
  He was pretty bummed. I would be bummed about a two
• 59:49
  and that's crazy. That you brought it up
• 59:51
  immediately because, yeah, I would have been no.
• 59:54
  That to me, I'm like, oh, origin.
• 59:56
  It's like its origin. Yeah.
• 59:59
  But it's still it for, then you can look at the in sports.
• 1:00:01
  Yeah. Authentic means putting your
• 1:00:02
  life's changed. He's go.
• 1:00:04
  Yeah, but have you have you gone there over fenders?
• 1:00:07
  Yeah. And over fenders, I don't think
• 1:00:08
  I've installed those before know they have guide pins.
• 1:00:12
  Are these them? Yeah, those are being Sports.
• 1:00:15
  I got to take a better look at those later.
• 1:00:16
  So when you buy them, they have these beautiful little.
• 1:00:20
  And where do they guide into like?
• 1:00:21
  So the fences Center in the fender.
• 1:00:23
  Well, okay, so just it literally just got you just go.
• 1:00:27
  Yeah. Like origin, you're so cool.
• 1:00:29
  I mean, it did. I've spent what the my spell
• 1:00:31
  hours installing origin or genders on cars hours?
• 1:00:34
  Like just trying to figure out, okay?
• 1:00:37
  And then you got to go the other side like making look match.
• 1:00:40
  Yeah dude, those fenders. Like if I ever yeah, they're 14
• 1:00:46
  over fenders are. Unbelievable.
• 1:00:49
  Yeah, and you are front fenders. Come all all drilled and
• 1:00:54
  everything. Those front fenders are them
• 1:00:55
  building becomes drilled, as well, like holes in everything
• 1:00:59
  to me. I've even slightly.
• 1:01:01
  I see, you know, how you run a tight.
• 1:01:02
  If you run a Type X, they have like clips and stuff.
• 1:01:05
  Yeah, yes, yeah. I seen that before those come
• 1:01:08
  pre-drilled for the clips. Yeah.
• 1:01:10
  And everything from Beyond Sports.
• 1:01:11
  So you actually have to fill those holes.
• 1:01:12
  As if you're not going to run. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:14
  Type X. Yeah.
• 1:01:15
  Be in sports is another love. I mean you get what you pick,
• 1:01:17
  what you pay for. And but the thing is I seen
• 1:01:20
  brands that aren't as expensive also very well one that comes to
• 1:01:23
  mind is PS Deuce. Yes.
• 1:01:25
  Put this juice is great. It's just so thin.
• 1:01:27
  Yeah. It does feel then.
• 1:01:29
  Yeah. But being sport.
• 1:01:31
  Yes. To Skid the in sports feels like
• 1:01:35
  it could take a beating. Yeah.
• 1:01:36
  And I've proven that wrong like like if you lookin like, I don't
• 1:01:41
  know if they still do. Do it.
• 1:01:43
  It's been awhile since I bought Beyond sports but their early
• 1:01:47
  stuff would have different directional.
• 1:01:51
  Chop mesh. Like the fabulosity it be a
• 1:01:55
  woven on the corners and then chop mesh on the middle.
• 1:01:58
  Okay. Just take.
• 1:01:59
  I guess. Strengthen it in different ways.
• 1:02:01
  Yeah. And I love Arrow.
• 1:02:04
  That's like one of my yeah. I can see I can really like one
• 1:02:07
  of those things that can change a fucking.
• 1:02:09
  Yeah. It's like imagine if this had
• 1:02:11
  imagine if this had like your style Body.
• 1:02:14
  Well he did because you had type 2.
• 1:02:15
  It had type 2 in the picture or something.
• 1:02:17
  Yeah. And I was like, it looks
• 1:02:18
  completely disagree on it. I like this smell.
• 1:02:21
  I love this. Yeah, like way more.
• 1:02:23
  I don't know if you do. But yeah.
• 1:02:25
  I was talking type to. I can't do it.
• 1:02:27
  I can't look at type to be on Sports anymore.
• 1:02:29
  It's, I can't do it. You know why?
• 1:02:32
  It's because V is and all. Yeah, everyone had that.
• 1:02:36
  It also the you can tell like so you have a type 3.
• 1:02:40
  Yeah. If it's a lot nicer.
• 1:02:42
  Yeah. To like, I never really sharper,
• 1:02:44
  I never messed with the type, to be on Sports Kit.
• 1:02:47
  Only the only, the replicas you have to take out If you're
• 1:02:51
  really, if you're anything low, the rears hang way, lower.
• 1:02:55
  Hang they said, the sides of the front seat to take almost like
• 1:02:58
  three inches out the yeah dude, I remember that was the first
• 1:03:01
  thing when we put my, my car was slammed.
• 1:03:03
  Like, we got our new kits. We got RV is kits.
• 1:03:06
  We put them on and drive down the street.
• 1:03:08
  Rear bumpers just popping off every every five feet and we're
• 1:03:11
  just like do and and back then it was like you know zip ties.
• 1:03:14
  You know we're not using bolts. What is this?
• 1:03:17
  This was a probably 2013. Teen or 14.
• 1:03:21
  So when you you were getting into it where you looking at,
• 1:03:24
  guys like that was after that was before I was getting into
• 1:03:27
  your basically, 2010-2011. Okay, kiss.
• 1:03:31
  Like so I could you give you examples?
• 1:03:35
  Yeah, give me exam that powers. Yeah.
• 1:03:37
  Yeah, that was. That was the Pinnacle for me.
• 1:03:40
  Yeah. I was like that green car is
• 1:03:42
  everything. The car was it?
• 1:03:44
  That was that was the jam man. I mean and you know, everyone's
• 1:03:48
  like oh, he was Because this car is so slow and we're like, no,
• 1:03:53
  dude, it just looks so good. Yeah.
• 1:03:55
  And then he was an FD with a fucking k80 and like no stickers
• 1:03:58
  on the car and I was like this is the most badass shit.
• 1:04:01
  This is yeah, so bad. Yeah.
• 1:04:04
  If so so bad. It was good.
• 1:04:06
  Yeah, I love Emma slam. Do you feel like, I feel like
• 1:04:10
  ABO moon to for you when you drifted with him?
• 1:04:13
  I mean that was. Yeah, that's cool.
• 1:04:14
  His style is awesome. Yeah, like yeah, of course.
• 1:04:16
  That thing has always been slammed.
• 1:04:18
  The whole team is like, that whole team vibe.
• 1:04:20
  Yeah, but they're all low and yeah, of course their Skyline.
• 1:04:22
  So we weren't used to that stuff.
• 1:04:24
  Yeah, but you know tan. Mom died was big but back then.
• 1:04:28
  Yeah. And that was cool to see.
• 1:04:30
  Yeah, it's called yourself a burger.
• 1:04:32
  Yeah. Those guys are out there.
• 1:04:36
  Yeah. But like, dude, like I remember,
• 1:04:40
  going out to, so, we used to do drift days and stuff out here.
• 1:04:44
  Okay. At Fontana.
• 1:04:46
  I mean seeing you mentioned Fontana.
• 1:04:49
  Well and you also you're going into drifting.
• 1:04:51
  I can totally forgot to ask if you've ever drifted.
• 1:04:54
  Yeah it does happen to this thing.
• 1:04:56
  Yeah I did. Yeah which recalled.
• 1:05:00
  I did thunderhill West and the car which was that's the you can
• 1:05:05
  kill yourself. That is a circuit.
• 1:05:08
  Yeah. That that this thing is so fast.
• 1:05:11
  Yeah dude. And I erased it up and I gave it
• 1:05:16
  a little more Tire. Okay?
• 1:05:18
  And and that that was terrifying.
• 1:05:21
  I was like, I should have looked at it low and kept on skinnier
• 1:05:24
  time. Yeah.
• 1:05:24
  But it slowly slowly. Yeah.
• 1:05:27
  And it was so hot that the fender it was like the fetish
• 1:05:32
  for soft. It was so hot out there.
• 1:05:34
  Yeah. But you know I want to take it
• 1:05:38
  out to Green Change since they've redone it.
• 1:05:40
  Yeah, that's right. That's where we're actually
• 1:05:42
  going tomorrow. Yes, we're going out there.
• 1:05:44
  Tomorrow, I'll let you know how it is.
• 1:05:47
  I got to go with a buddy of mine.
• 1:05:50
  I went out he dragged me out there.
• 1:05:52
  He's like you got to go just come to check out the trash.
• 1:05:54
  That's a fun time and because the last time I drove on it, it
• 1:05:58
  was garbage. It was missing 62 the track but
• 1:06:01
  and widthwise you mean no like in the middle of the track it
• 1:06:04
  was just gone. It was gone cutter.
• 1:06:06
  We so this is a while ago. Yeah, like yeah, it was a while
• 1:06:09
  ago and it was rain and it literally washed out like, you
• 1:06:13
  know, there's like There's like the infield and there's come
• 1:06:18
  down and there's like the corkscrew and bright before you
• 1:06:22
  go up and like just whole section was gone, we rent
• 1:06:26
  buddies of from NorCal came down, they rented the track.
• 1:06:28
  Yeah, we heard it. The renting situation is
• 1:06:30
  actually pretty sweet. Yeah.
• 1:06:31
  And they're like dude. Parts tracks missing hell yeah
• 1:06:36
  they like so we need to go get there like well you can go get
• 1:06:39
  some Quikrete put it down. Oh so we that's what we do.
• 1:06:44
  They did that's funny. Fuck we spent half the everyone
• 1:06:47
  spent the day preparing a track just picturing.
• 1:06:51
  Like there was like five years old leather man that it stay out
• 1:06:54
  there. You want to fix it?
• 1:06:59
  Fix it. We can run it like the track?
• 1:07:05
  Yeah. Fix it.
• 1:07:08
  Yeah. That was probably four years ago
• 1:07:15
  for 55 years ago. Okay, so that's probably right
• 1:07:18
  before super day. That's yeah, it was before just
• 1:07:20
  super dijo, que es super. Yeah because it seemed like that
• 1:07:23
  was when the track gets on and took off.
• 1:07:25
  It's crazy. Ya Frankie drove.
• 1:07:27
  I got to drive which I think is still super deep, that's
• 1:07:30
  awesome. But then my trans blew up but
• 1:07:32
  see I got some laps in. I've never been a proficient
• 1:07:35
  enough driver. Maybe I just haven't spent it.
• 1:07:38
  I just I haven't spent enough time doing it.
• 1:07:40
  You also have a slammed car with 500 horsepower.
• 1:07:42
  So it's not like drinking but the more that I have taken, I
• 1:07:46
  definitely. There was a lot of
• 1:07:47
  opportunities. I could take in time to either
• 1:07:50
  take a lower horsepower car. Actually, there's a little track
• 1:07:53
  over here. Yeah.
• 1:07:54
  Yeah, called atoms. Okay, that's all The tiny little
• 1:07:58
  Park. Yeah.
• 1:07:59
  Yeah I think so and that Miata over there, I might take out
• 1:08:03
  there just they do Saturday nights.
• 1:08:06
  Yeah mess around. That's around and maybe I'd like
• 1:08:08
  to you know definitely drive a little bit more.
• 1:08:11
  Did I love those night? Drifts like night recessions
• 1:08:13
  that tracks, like we used to have a knight moves at a club
• 1:08:16
  loose on Wednesday nights. That was so cool.
• 1:08:18
  Now, they have Friday, Friday night, drinks party drift party.
• 1:08:21
  And that's sometimes that's rare.
• 1:08:22
  It's, it'll not, did it will never be the same though, as the
• 1:08:25
  ones. They know it will not because
• 1:08:27
  Now, the issue that we're having in New Jersey, is that a lot of
• 1:08:31
  people are complaining about the noise.
• 1:08:32
  Yeah, yeah. I mean, they've always
• 1:08:34
  complained about those in the truck.
• 1:08:36
  Exactly Anna, the closing Fontana, there's running the
• 1:08:38
  last event, NASCAR right here. That's that's what, is that what
• 1:08:45
  I said was talking about yesterday, when we do the NASCAR
• 1:08:47
  of that pink one, you are there. I was, it was a Korean barbecue
• 1:08:50
  with Mike. There's that Frankie mention
• 1:08:53
  Fontana when we were here, I was talking about Fontana.
• 1:08:55
  Nice on Fontana, son. I know people.
• 1:08:58
  Yeah, by Parts. Exactly.
• 1:08:59
  Yeah. And I was telling Carl was like
• 1:09:00
  that was the spot where you would get parts.
• 1:09:02
  That was it? Yeah.
• 1:09:03
  They had Kazama and yeah, they were who school fuck?
• 1:09:08
  Yeah. I mean I was in high school and
• 1:09:10
  I walk into their just be like, yeah.
• 1:09:12
  And they had I don't remember remember the guy looking up
• 1:09:17
  parts on the microfiche has. Oh yeah.
• 1:09:19
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:09:21
  Mike was before because I was a parts guy in 2000. 12 ish and
• 1:09:28
  yeah up. So I did you just spirits that?
• 1:09:31
  Yeah, but I heard stories. Yeah, for my manager was like,
• 1:09:34
  what is that? For those of you who are
• 1:09:36
  listening, I'll let you explain it.
• 1:09:38
  It's so it's like a bunch of, it's all this documentation.
• 1:09:43
  Like, you know, you'd have like a book, but it's on like one
• 1:09:47
  screen and all the part numbers. So tiny and you put it in this
• 1:09:51
  machine and you can scroll and that's how you would search for
• 1:09:55
  part numbers because of right there.
• 1:09:57
  Wasn't computers and those are what you want.
• 1:09:59
  Now, find out all the pain. Yeah.
• 1:10:02
  It's well actually, the current Nissan set up that they're using
• 1:10:05
  in the u.s. you can see everything.
• 1:10:07
  Yeah, yeah. So it's actually good it
• 1:10:09
  happened right when I left, I was like, oh yeah, now now they
• 1:10:12
  do this now and I'm amazed because I'm like, I'm just still
• 1:10:16
  just trying to picture, there was a Honda dealership.
• 1:10:18
  Bye-bye me somewhere. In Upstate New York.
• 1:10:20
  That was the same way with Honda's, though.
• 1:10:22
  Like you walk in and there's there's a Mugen, this mooc in
• 1:10:25
  that. And that's not something that
• 1:10:27
  you see. A dealership at least in my in
• 1:10:29
  our area. If you know what it is consumer
• 1:10:31
  like it's the standard Alliance. It's a people working there and
• 1:10:34
  it's there. And it's the higher, its the
• 1:10:36
  management. If because, usually what happens
• 1:10:38
  is like, you have someone like me that's passionate and oh, you
• 1:10:40
  know, we can let me, let me get parts from Nismo, let me do
• 1:10:43
  this. And then then you run into the
• 1:10:45
  problem. Where is the manager gonna let
• 1:10:46
  you do that? Yeah, he either is or he's not
• 1:10:49
  and then you'll run into certain situations like the Nissan
• 1:10:52
  dealership up in Washington. Maybe Portland somewhere up
• 1:10:56
  there but They're blowing up because management, let them
• 1:11:01
  yeah, cell JDM parts. So now they got like crazy
• 1:11:07
  followers on Instagram and stuff, and really put a lot of
• 1:11:09
  time into it. Exactly.
• 1:11:10
  Yeah, takes a lot of work. I mean, it's just crazy though.
• 1:11:14
  Like like a lot of times you go into a Nissan store, most normal
• 1:11:18
  stores. And yeah, they just were, like,
• 1:11:21
  what year is it? Yeah.
• 1:11:23
  And then you give them all the information.
• 1:11:24
  Then the question you, it's like going to Pep Boys.
• 1:11:26
  So like, oh, well, that number Insert superseded okay with
• 1:11:28
  super yeah. Okay.
• 1:11:30
  So what is it? Can you get it?
• 1:11:31
  No. Okay but like when we call we
• 1:11:33
  called Nissan like every day. Yeah.
• 1:11:36
  And I usually me and Malcolm usually have part numbers for
• 1:11:38
  them. We try to just because I
• 1:11:39
  explained everything that Malcolm I'm like, dude.
• 1:11:41
  This isn't what you think it is. It's just pretend you're calling
• 1:11:44
  Pep Boys because it's the same thing because the same thing
• 1:11:46
  because we're not looking for like control arms were a rogue
• 1:11:49
  you know we're looking for something that they don't even
• 1:11:51
  know what it is, you know? So it's like get the part
• 1:11:55
  numbers. Do your research before you even
• 1:11:56
  call. All and then call tell him what
• 1:11:58
  you need and they'll tell you, if they can get it or if they
• 1:12:00
  can. Well, and is that I just ruin my
• 1:12:03
  business by saying that. Well, I like I ran into like
• 1:12:09
  some nice on part numbers now pick up, not in Nissan, but into
• 1:12:14
  you called an affinity to part. That's ooh, yeah, huh, or you
• 1:12:18
  call Factor Motorsports? We've got everything in stock
• 1:12:20
  here you go. So you can Shameless plug that?
• 1:12:22
  Yeah, that's what we've been doing lately because we're just
• 1:12:24
  like people keep calling. They want this in that I'm like,
• 1:12:26
  let's just stop all this. Yeah, and it's like, you know,
• 1:12:28
  it's a little stuff here and there because we use it.
• 1:12:31
  Yeah, every time we'll be putting together a car and we're
• 1:12:33
  just like, I want new bushings for this.
• 1:12:35
  I want like, I don't want to put this old crusty bushing back on
• 1:12:38
  this freshly painted engine bay. Yeah, and what I do like, is
• 1:12:42
  that you guys get a lot of Hardware to.
• 1:12:43
  Yeah, it's a hardware specific to each application.
• 1:12:47
  Yeah, we'll keep the bolts and stuff, and stock.
• 1:12:49
  That way. It's nice.
• 1:12:50
  Like it not just more, satisfying than that.
• 1:12:51
  Yeah, you put a new nut or bolt set on like your fingers and
• 1:12:56
  then you can see Like all of them are nice and shiny.
• 1:12:59
  Yeah, no, it's true. When the technically they're
• 1:13:00
  supposed to be painted, I think. Well depends on the little
• 1:13:03
  Factory. Yeah.
• 1:13:04
  Sometimes you got to them and they put seam sealer over.
• 1:13:07
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:13:09
  Lightly brushed. Yeah.
• 1:13:11
  I was like like, the hood, the hood hinge bolts and then you're
• 1:13:15
  like, fuck. I gotta, I gotta take this off.
• 1:13:17
  Yeah. Like it's what a break is legal
• 1:13:18
  and everything. It's just so weird because like,
• 1:13:21
  I just love the little nuances of what you look at you.
• 1:13:24
  Like when you like, It into a car you got you get into enough
• 1:13:29
  as chassis you know. Like what were these guys doing
• 1:13:32
  with the seam sealer. Yeah you know.
• 1:13:34
  It's like yes, dude, and then there's like a brush Mark.
• 1:13:37
  Yeah skip. Yep blob and you're like what we
• 1:13:42
  and then they're like oh there's weights on the firewall.
• 1:13:44
  Oh yeah. Anti-vibration.
• 1:13:46
  And then you look like this car had a bunch of Weights.
• 1:13:51
  It was a this is a 93 and it was a weird.
• 1:13:54
  It was a and a production 1993. Three.
• 1:13:57
  Okay. And it had Waits on the exhaust
• 1:14:00
  in the back. I seen that before had it had
• 1:14:02
  had two sets of Weights, had Waits on the subframe, had Waits
• 1:14:06
  on the firewall weights on suffering.
• 1:14:07
  I've seen that too. Yeah, yeah, let's square one.
• 1:14:11
  And it's just like, and there's just, like tons of, you know,
• 1:14:14
  you seem Silas a hit-or-miss, man.
• 1:14:16
  You can open some of these engine bays and you'll never
• 1:14:17
  notice. And then, sometimes you open
• 1:14:19
  one, and you'll be like, what the fuck, what the fuck was
• 1:14:21
  going on? Like, you're just like, how
• 1:14:23
  drunk was this stupid. This was like, you know what,
• 1:14:27
  Skaar the black. We have a black Coupe at the
• 1:14:29
  shop. His car is a good example
• 1:14:31
  because I was like, we were so confused.
• 1:14:33
  This is try the first car. We saw with the crazy seam
• 1:14:36
  sealer, and we're like looking at the wheel.
• 1:14:37
  Well, and I'm like, was this car like repaired?
• 1:14:41
  Yeah. And I was like, dude, no repair
• 1:14:43
  shop is doing. I'm telling you.
• 1:14:45
  I had a, I had a 14 and you know there's like the they do like
• 1:14:50
  the spray coating. Yeah.
• 1:14:52
  They like some type of under coach so this 14 had none under
• 1:14:55
  the front. Wow, the car.
• 1:14:56
  It just Missing it completely was your sainted though.
• 1:14:59
  It was kind of just over sprayed.
• 1:15:01
  Yeah nothing and it was just luckily I had meant to be a
• 1:15:05
  colleague California car so wasn't too bad but like it was
• 1:15:08
  like this car. It was just weird.
• 1:15:11
  It was a another thing it was an Essie.
• 1:15:15
  Yeah for luck. Oh Nan sunroof SE I was a mess
• 1:15:20
  up car that was like is among know as a Friday night.
• 1:15:24
  It was it was off the VIN. It read as Wow, I see I you
• 1:15:28
  know, I so we were, you would think this is like an old car
• 1:15:32
  thing, right? We had a 2023 Subaru, WRX come
• 1:15:36
  in the shop, and I was in the process of like, figuring out
• 1:15:40
  what kind of undercoating I want to do for this bill.
• 1:15:41
  Like, did I want to use some kind of new truck liner set up
• 1:15:46
  if people are doing this? Not so I was like, let me go
• 1:15:49
  look at this up your ex I want to see what they're doing so I
• 1:15:51
  go under the car and she has carpet dude.
• 1:15:54
  Well yes, in the back like you'll be like carpet.
• 1:15:57
  Yeah, to help with sound but then I'm like, looking around
• 1:16:00
  and I'm like, I'm like, okay it's undercoated and I'm like,
• 1:16:03
  looking at it. I'm like, why is it there
• 1:16:05
  overspray on everything and it's black, it's not painted over.
• 1:16:08
  Yeah, it's black undercoat. I go to the front of the car.
• 1:16:12
  There's overspray on the strut on the brake lines, really on
• 1:16:16
  everything. I just was awesome.
• 1:16:17
  ER, I'm like, you got this car undercoated right after you
• 1:16:20
  bought it. He's like no, I just bought.
• 1:16:22
  It is brand-new brand-new car and it's like a shit job, dude.
• 1:16:27
  Horrible. Yeah, very weird.
• 1:16:29
  Yeah, I was like it's interesting because you would
• 1:16:32
  think it would like that. You think it'd be getting
• 1:16:34
  better, you know, but what I was as a Nissan and the first Quest
• 1:16:41
  fans were coming and Nissan was forgetting to put a lot of
• 1:16:47
  things. But the biggest thing was so,
• 1:16:51
  like, you know, you have so, inside the roof, you have like
• 1:16:53
  braces that go up. Yeah.
• 1:16:55
  And they're supposed to be like an insulator.
• 1:16:57
  See, they put a sexy librarian. So does it vibrate?
• 1:16:59
  They would just forget and it would sound like a thunderstorm.
• 1:17:02
  Yeah. And they would learn Highway
• 1:17:04
  come in. You have to pull the whole.
• 1:17:05
  They would pull. They have to pull the whole
• 1:17:07
  interior out because it all this has to come out.
• 1:17:11
  So they drop drop dead Miner and then come back in.
• 1:17:14
  And then the skylines, the early skyline is they had a bunch of
• 1:17:17
  seam. Sealing.
• 1:17:17
  You had to do, oh wow, tsv that would come out.
• 1:17:22
  Yeah, yeah, probably rtsp before they before the car would even
• 1:17:27
  Be sold or after or before you. Right?
• 1:17:31
  Where they literally like, these are coming with this issue.
• 1:17:34
  Yeah. Yeah, fix it like it's on the
• 1:17:36
  table already here. I'm sorry.
• 1:17:38
  I mean, the good thing is that a dealership is a paid to do that.
• 1:17:40
  So, you know, yeah, they just don't give it.
• 1:17:42
  No one gave it but P their slim, these brand-new.
• 1:17:45
  Yeah. Douglas Quest fans were
• 1:17:48
  horrendous. You need a definitely make sure
• 1:17:50
  that they're that undercoating thing that Frankie's talking
• 1:17:52
  about, like you gotta show him because I feel like you guys
• 1:17:55
  have so much in Attention to detail like the one we just did.
• 1:17:59
  Yeah. So I don't know if you know,
• 1:18:00
  Jimmy Oaks he's a YouTuber but I was in the process of like I
• 1:18:04
  said, I was trying to figure what I wanted to do with his car
• 1:18:05
  because it was, we redid the whole engine bay and like I go
• 1:18:09
  down under the wheel. Well and I was like, I got to
• 1:18:10
  redo this shit. It's like filthy.
• 1:18:12
  Yeah. So I'm like what am I going to
• 1:18:13
  do? So I got, you know, I start
• 1:18:16
  diving into the 3M catalog and I'm Larry, what kind of
• 1:18:18
  undercoating could I use? I wanted to be like Factory, but
• 1:18:21
  I don't want it to be hard to clean this and that do I just
• 1:18:23
  want to paint it, you know? And then I was gonna go with the
• 1:18:28
  3M stuff, right? Quote, unquote, rubberized.
• 1:18:31
  Yeah, or that what they call it's Cuts.
• 1:18:34
  Yeah, yeah. So I got the gun, everything
• 1:18:36
  like that. I'm like, all right we'll just
• 1:18:37
  do this. But at the whole time I was
• 1:18:38
  like, I'm not really, I'm not excited to have a rubber under
• 1:18:42
  code under there mostly because of cleaning it.
• 1:18:46
  Yeah, it's a nightmare man. So like you get some dirt on
• 1:18:49
  there and it's just like no matter what.
• 1:18:52
  Yeah, it's always going to look dirty.
• 1:18:53
  Yeah, so I mean what the fact, what's what the factory does?
• 1:18:57
  Is they'll Scott's that area? And then they'll paint the car.
• 1:19:01
  All right, so if you look under most wheel wells, at least older
• 1:19:04
  cars, it'll be paint matched. Yeah.
• 1:19:07
  So that's that's technically what the factory does.
• 1:19:10
  So we're trying to think of something that's, you know, kind
• 1:19:12
  of factory is but you know, not not that.
• 1:19:16
  I'm going back and forth with it.
• 1:19:17
  We go up to Jimmy Oaks is shop, he's just showing us a tour of
• 1:19:20
  all the cars. He basically builds cars for
• 1:19:23
  YouTube. Yeah.
• 1:19:24
  Which is insane. But nuts.
• 1:19:26
  Yeah. But that's basically, He's doing
• 1:19:27
  so helped, put a car together, help make videos on it and, you
• 1:19:30
  know, get paid from YouTube. So I think I watched that you
• 1:19:34
  guys went is. Oh yeah, yeah so did.
• 1:19:37
  So while I'm walking around he's like he's showing us all the
• 1:19:39
  cars. I'm just staring at the
• 1:19:40
  interiors and like, what is is set up?
• 1:19:42
  He's running in here so using Raptor liner.
• 1:19:45
  So it's like a truck bed thing. So right away my head is my
• 1:19:47
  brain is like fuck that. Yeah I mean like I'm like
• 1:19:51
  deadlines or I'm not even on a car but then I start doing
• 1:19:54
  research and I'm like damn dude there's some classic car Guys
• 1:19:57
  that are doing they're really into it.
• 1:19:58
  Yeah. And I was guys that's like a
• 1:20:00
  staple. Yeah.
• 1:20:01
  On the builds. Now I was never aware of that.
• 1:20:03
  So I was like, okay I started seeing that I started seeing
• 1:20:07
  people doing the whole underside of the car in it and I was like
• 1:20:10
  you know fuck it. It's a customer of ours Anthony
• 1:20:12
  and he's he was down with it. He's like let's try it out, try
• 1:20:15
  it out. And I don't think I'll ever go
• 1:20:16
  back. I'm like sauce.
• 1:20:18
  Yes. Number one.
• 1:20:19
  It's strong. Yeah.
• 1:20:20
  So it's going to take a beating to it's hard so you can
• 1:20:25
  literally spray that down. You know and wash.
• 1:20:27
  Holy power, wash it and make it look.
• 1:20:29
  Yeah I know it's super easy and you can paint it.
• 1:20:32
  You can mix paint in with it. Yeah color it yeah.
• 1:20:36
  Like I'm working on a Nova project for Someone and it's
• 1:20:41
  being built another shop and that's what we're actually going
• 1:20:44
  to color match. The oh you are doing that.
• 1:20:45
  The undercoat of the, I don't know if we're doing Rapture
• 1:20:49
  camera. There's probably a bunch of
• 1:20:50
  them. There's there's a place locally
• 1:20:52
  that does okay sells it. I know.
• 1:20:54
  Line-X was always the one for this.
• 1:20:56
  Yes. Yeah.
• 1:20:58
  And so we're doing that. We're going to do a color
• 1:21:00
  matched. Yeah, I'm beginning to think
• 1:21:03
  that I'm going to do that for sure.
• 1:21:05
  If I do if I'm doing a car now and that's going to be one of
• 1:21:09
  the chance to do the whole Underside.
• 1:21:11
  Yeah I'm thinking the same thing.
• 1:21:13
  So we did the front of his car and then he came and looked at
• 1:21:15
  he's like he's like I need all new suspension components, man.
• 1:21:19
  You can take that. You can put on this Rusty Ash
• 1:21:21
  the rest of it is going to look worse.
• 1:21:22
  Yeah that's that's all the only thing that I know that I was
• 1:21:27
  talking to the guys that are going to do it at that shop.
• 1:21:30
  They just don't like when you have to go back and do a repair,
• 1:21:33
  explain that a little bit because I was thinking about
• 1:21:35
  that because it you have to you. It's not like something you In
• 1:21:40
  just spot, you know, you like especially if it's colored.
• 1:21:45
  Yeah, yeah, that's a nightmare but like, it doesn't like to
• 1:21:48
  stick over it. So hard to believe.
• 1:21:51
  They're like, okay. Let's say you came in.
• 1:21:53
  You did a quarter panel job. You need to take off all like
• 1:21:58
  that area where all the seams up to the seems, you know, you've
• 1:22:01
  take it. You have to strip it.
• 1:22:03
  And as you know, it's definitely harder to strip.
• 1:22:05
  So it doesn't like to stick on top of it.
• 1:22:06
  So, yeah. And then like, you want to make
• 1:22:08
  sure you don't Put it over. Bare metal.
• 1:22:11
  Yeah. So then you need to paint it.
• 1:22:13
  Yeah, we sell. Fetch Terry thing before we did
• 1:22:15
  that just you probably want to do it to some sort of 2K over
• 1:22:22
  it. Yeah, this self actual still
• 1:22:25
  rust. Forget what we did.
• 1:22:27
  I think, I know I did a self-etch.
• 1:22:30
  I know, he seemed sealed some stuff before I even por-15 some
• 1:22:34
  stuff before we did it. Just because there was like two
• 1:22:36
  areas where I was a little worried about it, and I was
• 1:22:39
  like, we're Not cutting all this out and it wasn't really rot.
• 1:22:42
  It was just like you could barely see a little bit of rust
• 1:22:45
  but low so little brown dots. So grind that prepped out the
• 1:22:48
  way por-15 wants it done, you're just a whole process, and then
• 1:22:51
  do it that way and then undercoat everything.
• 1:22:54
  But yeah, you might want to talk to someone about it, but I keep
• 1:23:00
  trying to remember but I know sometimes they like to stick
• 1:23:03
  over a painted surface. Yeah.
• 1:23:05
  Like not like most of it. Yeah, very few areas.
• 1:23:09
  Were taken down to that point. But yeah, yeah, I actually
• 1:23:13
  didn't do a lot of prep under there because I was, I mean one
• 1:23:17
  I didn't want to grind everything.
• 1:23:19
  Right, right. Yeah.
• 1:23:20
  So I was like, we're going to do this and we're going to see what
• 1:23:22
  happens because I'm not going to.
• 1:23:23
  So you have you done it? Yeah, we did it on this on this
• 1:23:26
  whole car. Yeah, they show you.
• 1:23:28
  Few knows of it but yeah, I'll find them here.
• 1:23:30
  But yeah, I was I mean I like how it came out.
• 1:23:33
  It's that's like again, like attention to detail.
• 1:23:38
  You thought of a problem that there's the Ocean.
• 1:23:39
  Like I feel like that's always, it's the, it's the trial and
• 1:23:43
  error type of thing. That was pretty good.
• 1:23:46
  Yeah. So I just did that whole
• 1:23:48
  Underside? Yeah, because like they were
• 1:23:49
  talking about The guys I was talking to you if they're like
• 1:23:53
  oh we had to do the car garbage or ended.
• 1:23:57
  Yeah. So they do need to fix it and
• 1:23:59
  then they just they're like oh we just ripped it all the way up
• 1:24:02
  to like, like right at the back of the floor plan.
• 1:24:05
  Yeah, essentially and then re in masked it on the edges.
• 1:24:09
  So look, you know, the sheet metal edges?
• 1:24:10
  Yeah. They painted it and then and
• 1:24:13
  then did shock the. Yeah.
• 1:24:15
  I would definitely paint. Yeah.
• 1:24:16
  I wouldn't put it over Roman. That looks great though.
• 1:24:19
  Yeah, came out good. So now we're just going to put
• 1:24:21
  it to the test. That's-that's-that's see if it
• 1:24:23
  lasts that's the best. You get the car to that point.
• 1:24:26
  I know. Yeah.
• 1:24:27
  Actually just or you could you have a chance to build a car at
• 1:24:32
  that point because you're just putting it back together.
• 1:24:34
  Yeah. And now you have a clean slate.
• 1:24:36
  Yeah. You're not you know like making
• 1:24:39
  cutting Corners like oh I do this.
• 1:24:41
  We're dealing with this stuff that.
• 1:24:42
  Yeah, lose that way. That mean, that's the, that's
• 1:24:45
  the goal. I feel like for everyone that
• 1:24:46
  even in your position, like, people like us that have shops,
• 1:24:48
  it's like, we want to build cars like that.
• 1:24:51
  Like, you don't want to To be band-aiding like all these
• 1:24:54
  little projects. Let's see.
• 1:24:55
  Like I would love to build rebuild these cars like that.
• 1:24:59
  Yes, I never I didn't have a chance.
• 1:25:01
  You know, I built these cars with what I had.
• 1:25:02
  Yeah. At the time, you know, long time
• 1:25:05
  and my personal car is basically a shit box underneath because we
• 1:25:08
  just use it to. I was gonna say like your car is
• 1:25:10
  probably the most worst condition car and yeah and now
• 1:25:13
  it's going to be going under probably the same treatment.
• 1:25:16
  Oh right? Yeah.
• 1:25:17
  At least the front and because I'm going to paint the engine
• 1:25:20
  bay so I was like, well now I got to do this so yeah.
• 1:25:23
  They say the Shoemaker never has any shoes, that's what they say.
• 1:25:26
  And you know what, I'm really trying not to do that.
• 1:25:29
  Funny because yesterday, Jason said, the same game assignments,
• 1:25:32
  I'll work on a customer car and and it'll be absolutely to my
• 1:25:36
  standard but my own car is on cause she's like I got zip ties,
• 1:25:40
  holding that thing together and I understand what he's saying.
• 1:25:42
  Yeah. Yeah I just I've totally I had I
• 1:25:46
  just cut my like I just recently started touching my car's again.
• 1:25:49
  Like I like the last four Or years or whatever.
• 1:25:53
  If I'll even whatever I just was like, I can't touch my by
• 1:25:57
  focusing on the business and the business.
• 1:25:59
  I mean, to be honest, I'm kind of in the same boat, you know?
• 1:26:01
  And that's what it takes. I haven't touched my cars in
• 1:26:03
  three that's what it takes and that's absolutely What It Takes.
• 1:26:07
  Yeah. Do you have any other struggles
• 1:26:09
  like with every your business ever?
• 1:26:13
  All of it all of it? Like I feel like everything it's
• 1:26:16
  sacrifice like something had to be sacrificed because, but it's
• 1:26:20
  I didn't even know that you had. Both of these cars off of just
• 1:26:24
  going on your Instagram. Yeah and I'm really bad at
• 1:26:27
  integrating like what I do, I just do things and I just don't
• 1:26:32
  think about like documenting it. Yeah, it's harder.
• 1:26:37
  Like I mean like back in I mean have a whole other appealing
• 1:26:43
  through old hard drive of mine with back when I was building
• 1:26:47
  stuff in thinking about posting it on Sylvia?
• 1:26:50
  Yeah, that's what I see. I still got to build throughout.
• 1:26:52
  Sylvia to. I never, I never, I never made
• 1:26:54
  one. I never could get it.
• 1:26:58
  I never could get it right. I never felt like my stuff would
• 1:27:02
  be up good enough to be put onto.
• 1:27:03
  Yeah. And mine was like a diary.
• 1:27:07
  It was like okay. So we did this this week or
• 1:27:09
  something. I mean and like okay.
• 1:27:11
  So then this happened. Yeah.
• 1:27:12
  But I fell off to. I stopped doing it.
• 1:27:14
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:27:16
  Sylvia was, what's great? I mean, is I but I think I have
• 1:27:21
  like eight posts on Sylvia. Oh, yeah.
• 1:27:24
  But I've been, if you're a lurker, I've been, I've been,
• 1:27:26
  I've been a member It's like 2003?
• 1:27:31
  Damn, that's fucking crazy. That's why was I was literally
• 1:27:35
  ate. Yeah, his ways I'm probably a
• 1:27:37
  member since 0 9 or 10. That's that's as far back as I'm
• 1:27:41
  going to get. But are those, you know, those
• 1:27:43
  guys who made that those Elvia? Yeah.
• 1:27:45
  No. I don't know them.
• 1:27:48
  Yeah. Because I think they might be
• 1:27:49
  from California. I think so too.
• 1:27:51
  Yeah, I think they're from, Yeah, there's a lot there's a
• 1:27:55
  lot going on around here. Yeah.
• 1:27:56
  He a lot of people that, I mean some, you know, some key figures
• 1:28:01
  in the development of that scene.
• 1:28:03
  Yeah. I'm in a zil via Facebook group
• 1:28:06
  and it really took a Sylvia Revival type Facebook.
• 1:28:08
  Okay. Yeah, yeah, I gotta get you on
• 1:28:10
  face. Yeah, and I'll add you to it.
• 1:28:13
  But yeah, it's cool because you'll see some guys in there.
• 1:28:15
  Like, they'll bring some stuff up from the old, from the past.
• 1:28:17
  Or they'll like today. Someone was like, yeah, I'm
• 1:28:19
  trying to get a car meet together with like, some of us
• 1:28:21
  in this. Yeah, I was like, oh my God.
• 1:28:23
  Check that out later and see what it see what they're
• 1:28:24
  talking. That's cool but yeah I remember
• 1:28:26
  like just to keep it on the Sylvia thing I remember like
• 1:28:29
  when we got ads on Sylvia for the first time and this was like
• 1:28:32
  way late like people weren't even using Sylvia but I was like
• 1:28:36
  I'm putting ads on Sylvia because I just need to see them
• 1:28:39
  on there. Yeah that's you know I mean do
• 1:28:42
  you see like the VIS shit and stuff?
• 1:28:44
  And yeah there was I mean it was race on USA and there was so
• 1:28:50
  many other shops there's so much So much parts.
• 1:28:54
  Yeah. And like a boy garage, you'll
• 1:28:56
  shops and stuff. Yeah.
• 1:28:58
  Dude, that was a whole nother time, whole nother.
• 1:29:00
  But I like, yeah. It's interesting because, like,
• 1:29:05
  my first 13 that I was building, somehow ended up on there and I
• 1:29:11
  think gues, there's threads and stuff.
• 1:29:13
  Yeah, father's looking, but I've never posted on.
• 1:29:17
  Yes. Do someone else.
• 1:29:18
  Somebody else did it for you? I thought my guess is.
• 1:29:21
  You might have seen it already probably.
• 1:29:23
  Yeah. I mean like I said earlier I saw
• 1:29:26
  your car in that super Chic magazine.
• 1:29:29
  That would I I mean you can't really forget that hood.
• 1:29:33
  People hate that. Oh, I could see how yeah.
• 1:29:35
  I could definitely say that. I I'm I don't know.
• 1:29:39
  Do you hate it? That's the question.
• 1:29:41
  You know. I feel like I could do a lot
• 1:29:45
  better job. Okay, yeah, we so I did try
• 1:29:50
  doing it the correct way, which is where you actually.
• 1:29:53
  The skin. Yeah yeah yeah.
• 1:29:55
  But literally we put the the the place I took it to punch three
• 1:30:02
  dies and since it was so thin it just it just turned into potato
• 1:30:05
  chip. Yeah, that's a mention.
• 1:30:07
  That sounds like some kind of weird torture to put yourself
• 1:30:09
  through. Yeah, to do what you do is you
• 1:30:12
  essentially, you know, your remove, you remove the skin?
• 1:30:15
  Yeah. And then we put the skin back on
• 1:30:17
  the frame once you're done. That's how all those old school.
• 1:30:20
  All those old school louvered pan.
• 1:30:23
  All's you see that's how it's done.
• 1:30:24
  They date from them, skin removed the skin.
• 1:30:26
  You don't they don't like they don't take the panel and then
• 1:30:29
  weld it in. Yeah.
• 1:30:31
  Because yeah. Do you want you still want the
• 1:30:33
  skeleton underneath and everything and then often then
• 1:30:36
  it just looks its most guys would just give you shit.
• 1:30:38
  Yeah. For it's going to look like
• 1:30:40
  shit. Yeah, because you just want the
• 1:30:41
  back side when you look at the back side it's gonna be all
• 1:30:43
  welded and yeah. And then if you're welding you
• 1:30:46
  the louvers. You're going to screw them up.
• 1:30:48
  Yeah, he but then of course dealing with a nice on you.
• 1:30:51
  Got that thin metal. Yeah, Health it and it's not
• 1:30:54
  consistent. Yeah, the guy was running a
• 1:30:56
  gauge, they had this, he had this gauge and he's like, oh,
• 1:31:01
  that's rolling out. Oh my god.
• 1:31:03
  Wow, on thickness of the sheet metal.
• 1:31:05
  I never, we never tried that at the shop.
• 1:31:07
  I know Ethan that does fabric force is always like this metal.
• 1:31:10
  So fucking thing, it's always blowing holes you're like oh
• 1:31:13
  dude I got the welder set up great.
• 1:31:15
  Yep, your Stitch like Stitch welding, I hate what Stitch
• 1:31:18
  welding is a car. Awesome.
• 1:31:21
  Awesome awesome right there. Laughs.
• 1:31:23
  You're like, what? What happened?
• 1:31:25
  Yeah, it was a just just but now I mean after getting that guy to
• 1:31:31
  gauge it, I mean, it makes sense.
• 1:31:33
  Yeah. I mean they just it's just
• 1:31:38
  shitty medal for sorry. We're just these cars were just
• 1:31:40
  another day of the week. Yeah, that's all this was.
• 1:31:43
  And it's just like what that with, you know, you talked to.
• 1:31:47
  I use was a kid and I used to sit around, I was lucky enough
• 1:31:51
  to get over. To hang out in shops that guys
• 1:31:57
  that built America Hot Rocks and stuff.
• 1:32:00
  And it's now sound. We're sounding like those guys
• 1:32:03
  there. Yeah, you know, it's just it's
• 1:32:06
  funny. It just goes around and around.
• 1:32:08
  Yeah. And I feel like that's why these
• 1:32:09
  podcasts are so like, I mean, like, people are listening to
• 1:32:13
  them because they want to. They want to hear these stories
• 1:32:15
  and like, how we went through things and found different ways
• 1:32:19
  to work on these cars. I would love to be able to To
• 1:32:23
  share this stuff. Share stuff with people.
• 1:32:26
  Yeah, more. I mean that's what I admire what
• 1:32:29
  you guys do and all these podcasters.
• 1:32:31
  I really would love to, you know I'll tell you something right
• 1:32:34
  now. It's not hard if we could do it.
• 1:32:38
  Yeah. You guys get to.
• 1:32:39
  Yeah. It's so it's see.
• 1:32:41
  I'm a butt guy. Yeah.
• 1:32:43
  We'll have done that though. Yeah, I know I know there are
• 1:32:45
  podcast was that Adam Savage? I know, I know MythBusters.
• 1:32:50
  Yeah, I know if you want to, you want You'll insignificant, you
• 1:32:55
  watch him because he's busy, he'll be running a Bridgeport
• 1:32:59
  and running, he'll be knocking out up.
• 1:33:03
  You know hellboy's gun like just running to three machines in
• 1:33:09
  filming himself and yeah I just I did he do like podcasts or is
• 1:33:12
  it on YouTube? He does he does some podcast but
• 1:33:15
  then he makes like he has like a crew that he does different
• 1:33:20
  things but he does. This like it's called a one-day.
• 1:33:23
  Build. But it's kind of a joke now
• 1:33:24
  because nothing takes one day. Yeah but it's just him.
• 1:33:29
  Okay. Usually in the shop taking on
• 1:33:31
  task, not none of his other. He's building like crazy shit.
• 1:33:34
  I guess he builds like mock props or whatever you know.
• 1:33:37
  He just was like I'm going to build with Bill space suit.
• 1:33:40
  Yeah. Yeah and it's like a you know
• 1:33:43
  it's like it's wild and I'm thinking about that comedian.
• 1:33:45
  What's his name? Pretty popular comedian.
• 1:33:48
  Bill Burr. Maybe I think he's doing a
• 1:33:50
  podcast by himself but I know one thing.
• 1:33:53
  About myself, is its I'm single. I can only single task.
• 1:33:57
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I have do I work?
• 1:33:59
  No, that's fine. I don't expect you to be.
• 1:34:01
  No, no, no podcast. Yeah, fuck that.
• 1:34:03
  Like trying to work on something and talk to people even YouTube.
• 1:34:06
  Dude, that's crazy. I hate, I'm not going to say,
• 1:34:10
  hey YouTube because, you know, we love you YouTube.
• 1:34:13
  But Hansel, dude, doing that shit vlogging.
• 1:34:15
  I'm coming here. Like when we got here, I was
• 1:34:17
  like Carl. I'm not vlogging.
• 1:34:19
  I will film you or you can film me, I'm not but yeah, buddy.
• 1:34:23
  To say it. Somebody has to say it like we
• 1:34:24
  need it. Unfortunately.
• 1:34:26
  Yeah. I want to pick your brain about
• 1:34:28
  the importance of social media for the growth of your business,
• 1:34:30
  but I think that's what you need to do to remain relevant.
• 1:34:36
  Yeah, absolutely. There's a fine line though
• 1:34:38
  before where I'm willing to go. I'm like I'll like like I said
• 1:34:41
  we've talked about Malcolm Malcolm does a lot of the camera
• 1:34:44
  stuff, the shop. He'll be able film stuff.
• 1:34:46
  Sometimes you know like both before Malcolm.
• 1:34:49
  We did not do YouTube. Yeah, that was not even a thing.
• 1:34:51
  Yeah, for me I don't think I just want to focus on getting
• 1:34:54
  better at Instagram. Yeah.
• 1:34:57
  Which is good. You should be doing that.
• 1:34:59
  I mean, I'll tell you the secret right now, it's reels.
• 1:35:01
  That's pretty much. Yeah.
• 1:35:02
  Even which is annoying. Yeah.
• 1:35:04
  Anyone at my head, whatever they're putting out, like,
• 1:35:08
  whatever their new thing is, that's the secret.
• 1:35:11
  But I have feelings that I feel like I don't know why, but the
• 1:35:15
  novelty of older things is becoming popular.
• 1:35:18
  I can give you advice. A comeback is een.
• 1:35:20
  That I think would work. Yeah.
• 1:35:22
  You do something on your car or even one of your products.
• 1:35:26
  Just explain how you're installing it and everything,
• 1:35:28
  you know. Because remember K.
• 1:35:29
  Yeah, super light super life. He's got crazy.
• 1:35:32
  Because reels can be let me show you his rules before.
• 1:35:34
  Yeah, that'd be great because I'm just totally.
• 1:35:38
  Yeah. Now it's very simple and it's
• 1:35:40
  like afterthought. You can voiceover it to ya.
• 1:35:42
  Like you're like, let's let's say let's say your local, you're
• 1:35:47
  lowering the suspension of the rear of your car, which is why
• 1:35:50
  don't you just put it in one spot and you're lowering it and
• 1:35:57
  it's like a time-lapse and you just kind of explain it.
• 1:36:01
  Explain why you're doing. Yeah, just right.
• 1:36:03
  Axl thing. Like you stood, us would be and
• 1:36:07
  I'll show you what he does. Because we haven't really done
• 1:36:08
  anything like that either. Yeah, because I know you would
• 1:36:11
  hate the sound of your own voice.
• 1:36:12
  No, it's not that. It's like, it's not that.
• 1:36:15
  It's the act of filming everything.
• 1:36:17
  That's just so, like, TD, some people just have a yeah.
• 1:36:20
  Like, and I'm guilty of, like, when I work on something.
• 1:36:24
  Oh my God. I guess I, I just, I just want
• 1:36:27
  to shut everything off. Yeah, work on and get it done.
• 1:36:30
  And just it's like, Like I spent all week working on stuff and if
• 1:36:35
  I actually get 20 minutes to do something, that's why, when
• 1:36:38
  people talk shit about YouTube people, I'm like guys, you don't
• 1:36:42
  understand, they have no hard. This is they have no life after
• 1:36:46
  I find it hard to believe and I like psych when they do other
• 1:36:50
  stuff like they give themselves a break because I'm telling you
• 1:36:53
  making a 10 minute video about something I did.
• 1:36:57
  Well we're not talking about editing a yeah but like pit
• 1:37:00
  Academy of Z. For example, like He started, he
• 1:37:03
  would probably do some new his car.
• 1:37:04
  So now he's got a, he's got a film, every angle and your,
• 1:37:07
  you'll notice sometimes, when they film the stuff, they'll
• 1:37:09
  like, they'll like move the camera somewhere else and
• 1:37:13
  they'll do something you're like, you know, that dude had a
• 1:37:15
  move that camera over there for no reason other than just film
• 1:37:18
  this film him doing this twice just to show the camera or some
• 1:37:21
  weird shit like that. That's a lot and it's like dude
• 1:37:24
  like you're adding so much more time to the project I think.
• 1:37:27
  I think it's important to make sure that you're providing some
• 1:37:32
  Students in your video. I don't like when people record
• 1:37:35
  a video just to record a video. Yeah.
• 1:37:37
  Or and it applies differently because I feel like if you're
• 1:37:42
  enjoying something and it's like a different type of log like
• 1:37:44
  like earlier, we were driving around and I'm geeking
• 1:37:48
  borderline on the verge of tears because I'm just so happy to be
• 1:37:52
  driving and on the Pacific Coast Highway.
• 1:37:54
  Yeah. It's not recording or anything
• 1:37:57
  and then afterwards, I'm like damn we should have recorded
• 1:37:59
  that and and then I say right away.
• 1:38:01
  What I said something. Like it's fine.
• 1:38:03
  We got to enjoy the moment. Yeah yeah yeah.
• 1:38:05
  And I feel like that's what it's like hard to do now.
• 1:38:08
  Yeah, like this whole like I was going to film a whole bunch more
• 1:38:13
  like when I was in Japan and stuff and I'm like, I can't
• 1:38:16
  enjoy this. Yeah.
• 1:38:18
  But see, I'm still my head is still.
• 1:38:24
  I want to say Not if it's like digital and analog my mind is
• 1:38:30
  very analog. Yeah and I just I can't have a
• 1:38:33
  hard time understanding. Like why would anyone want to
• 1:38:37
  see this? I totally understand what you're
• 1:38:39
  saying because I have the same exact thought on certain things
• 1:38:43
  such as our friend, Josh that for a while his business was
• 1:38:48
  opening opening Pokemon cards and streaming and he made money
• 1:38:52
  doing this a lot. So that's where my mind was
• 1:38:55
  like, I can't understand this but I see what is happening.
• 1:39:00
  So I'm going to accept it. That's basically where I mean
• 1:39:02
  that stuff so yeah I mean I like some of it.
• 1:39:04
  Some of it we're just not gonna understand it.
• 1:39:05
  Yeah like it's so weird. I have a feelin.
• 1:39:09
  Like I'm I'm I'm sorry then. I know I just got to get this
• 1:39:11
  out because I'm going to forget and goes but like my I'm still
• 1:39:16
  trying to turn the page adding more of the shop into my
• 1:39:21
  Instagram. Yeah.
• 1:39:22
  Like just post yet even reels nothing.
• 1:39:25
  Yeah. Because as hard, Me and then
• 1:39:27
  it's like photographing things. Yeah, it's like I hope that one
• 1:39:32
  day when you're, when you're comfortable and able that you
• 1:39:36
  can get yourself on Malcolm because I will tell you, I would
• 1:39:40
  love to. Yeah, that will help Frankie
• 1:39:42
  this all the time because as you just heard big Not a big fan of
• 1:39:48
  doing the YouTube Thing by himself, but without Malcolm,
• 1:39:51
  somebody who's a fluent in those kinds of things and able to edit
• 1:39:55
  and he's pretty passionate, about has a passion for.
• 1:39:57
  Yeah. Well that's every without that
• 1:39:59
  without the Imagine no YouTube, no podcast, no Instagram.
• 1:40:02
  Like I don't even I don't stay on top of them.
• 1:40:03
  Like I know he's checking it. I know he's looking at
• 1:40:06
  everything and he's like, he's like he's into that aspect of
• 1:40:09
  our business and I'm into the more of like, the selling the
• 1:40:13
  parts and making sure that's all going on.
• 1:40:15
  And he's really into the Eating side of YouTube, he's like oh
• 1:40:18
  see like we're getting, you know, people like that type of
• 1:40:20
  videos going to do this. Oh yeah you need a Malcolm.
• 1:40:24
  Yeah. Well like every day I look at
• 1:40:26
  every day as a dollar. Yeah, you look at this before
• 1:40:30
  you get a, you gotta dip it in a little bit that DVD dollar
• 1:40:34
  through the day. You can't spend any more than
• 1:40:36
  that. Yeah, one dollar and I just, I
• 1:40:39
  hit over a dollar in the first two hours of the show.
• 1:40:43
  Yeah, open. And I'm just Like, oh my God you
• 1:40:47
  know are like yeah there's stuff to do with the taxes.
• 1:40:51
  Yeah. Insurance.
• 1:40:52
  And when did you like officially start your business?
• 1:40:57
  Was it four or five? Was this after you after you
• 1:41:01
  moved out of your other shop or was that the begin?
• 1:41:03
  So my very first shop was like that 800 square foot one.
• 1:41:06
  Okay. I was not a business yet when I
• 1:41:09
  moved to the 1700 square foot shop.
• 1:41:11
  That's yeah, I was like, okay, okay, yeah, I'm going to do this
• 1:41:14
  and I had I had worked for other people and, you know, just like,
• 1:41:22
  you know, Well what the heck? You never try.
• 1:41:25
  You never know shot. Yeah, it's the that, you know,
• 1:41:29
  it's, you know, I mean, everyone's on like a different
• 1:41:33
  path. Yeah.
• 1:41:34
  And it's interesting to see your path because it's much different
• 1:41:37
  than mine. It's like your path is more like
• 1:41:41
  you have a building. That's what I was going to say.
• 1:41:43
  Would you have ever anticipated? Never, this is where he never
• 1:41:46
  ever in my wildest dreams would I ever?
• 1:41:50
  Yeah, never never, but you made it happen.
• 1:41:52
  So, You put your effort into this aspect of the business and
• 1:41:56
  you made it happen. Yeah.
• 1:41:57
  And it's definitely putting this as a priority as a priority has
• 1:42:03
  definitely been hard. Because I've had to watch the
• 1:42:06
  business suffer a lot. Yeah.
• 1:42:08
  And which is like, and basically, I'm back to zero.
• 1:42:11
  Yeah, I feel like now I'm literally, the only thing that's
• 1:42:15
  good is that you? But now I do base their home
• 1:42:17
  bases. Now know where I'm going to be
• 1:42:19
  at for the rest, like, yeah, like, that's which was where I
• 1:42:23
  was at. At it was like, he never knew if
• 1:42:26
  next month, was it because they wouldn't let you sign a lease.
• 1:42:29
  Yeah, I also wanted to harp on that because of a lot of our
• 1:42:32
  listeners are from the east coast and they don't have.
• 1:42:37
  I feel like we don't have that same.
• 1:42:38
  We definitely don't. I've never heard of like
• 1:42:40
  somebody who's like, oh yeah, it's almost like they're,
• 1:42:42
  they're like honking that are Heidi's, we're just running
• 1:42:45
  because, like, unless you go out and into the boonies or
• 1:42:49
  somewhere, you know, it's definitely harder but then
• 1:42:53
  finding a building or finding something.
• 1:42:56
  Yeah, that's the thing. I'm also not in the I'm not
• 1:42:58
  hunting for property right now. We're renting, so it could be
• 1:43:02
  going on by. I mean, how could it not be?
• 1:43:04
  I mean, look at everybody's money.
• 1:43:05
  Crazy. Densely populated is it?
• 1:43:07
  Yeah. It's insane.
• 1:43:08
  It's okay. New Jersey is like the most now
• 1:43:10
  I'm worried that that is going to happen and I'm concerned but
• 1:43:14
  you have a good relationship with your landlord.
• 1:43:15
  Yeah, our landlords awesome but at the same time it's like I
• 1:43:18
  mean me and Malcolm are always thinking about it or like Well,
• 1:43:21
  there's the compound going to be, you know, right?
• 1:43:23
  Where we going to move wealth. It's something that so it when
• 1:43:26
  it pop. So when I moved into the 1700
• 1:43:29
  square foot shop, wasn't even a thought of my head.
• 1:43:32
  Yeah, I was just so focused on. I'm like, oh my God, I got moved
• 1:43:35
  in that shop and I'm like, and you're like, this is like
• 1:43:37
  changing, right? Well, I'm still by myself and
• 1:43:40
  I'm just like, how the hell am I going to make enough money to
• 1:43:42
  pay for this? Yeah, and you know, do
• 1:43:46
  everything else that life has to you got to do and And then two
• 1:43:52
  years into one one or two years into renting that space the
• 1:43:57
  owner died future we were I was paying 70 73 cents a square foot
• 1:44:04
  for something. That's 70 those super cheap,
• 1:44:07
  super cheap leaf for you only got into the property if you use
• 1:44:10
  someone. Yeah, my neighbor was that hot
• 1:44:13
  rod shop that I swept. Okay, when I was a kid.
• 1:44:17
  Yeah. And I got in, because I knew him
• 1:44:20
  and Owners like okay y'all that guy.
• 1:44:24
  Yeah she can hand, you know, write a check mail them, a check
• 1:44:28
  every month. Yeah and then that's when
• 1:44:34
  everything changed because then these big companies bought kept
• 1:44:39
  throwing, they would buy the property, keep it for six
• 1:44:41
  months, sell it, buy it and every time, you know, 8 months,
• 1:44:45
  10 months, whatever these companies would buy it.
• 1:44:49
  And then every time you did they'd either, Either, you know,
• 1:44:52
  luckily, the first people that I went, I signed as long as I
• 1:44:55
  signed a lease but then you know every time you change a like, oh
• 1:45:00
  you got to lease but you know, my neighbors like they're not
• 1:45:02
  letting us sign leases, that's why.
• 1:45:05
  So, so that there is no contractual Bond.
• 1:45:08
  They're basically getting ready to kick you out.
• 1:45:10
  Yeah. Well, they want the flex.
• 1:45:11
  They want the flexibility. Yeah.
• 1:45:12
  Just in case someone comes by. Hey, we're going to give you and
• 1:45:14
  then Automotive has the worse, you know, reputation that's
• 1:45:18
  that's seems to be kind of normal across the board.
• 1:45:21
  So I understand it because my neighbors were terrible.
• 1:45:24
  Yeah, these guys would leave cars outside and have dogs
• 1:45:26
  wandering around biting people yet mosquitoes and oil and yeah
• 1:45:31
  I've always kept my stuff in the shop and I just I like to work.
• 1:45:36
  That was our landlords thought to like okay.
• 1:45:37
  Now we don't want like, you know, a gas State.
• 1:45:39
  I was like, you're not getting a gas station shop.
• 1:45:41
  Don't worry and like, everybody. It's one thing to talk it and
• 1:45:45
  then, yeah. So, luckily, you got a nice
• 1:45:47
  landlord that trusted you exactly.
• 1:45:49
  Gave you a give you a chance. You know, and because everything
• 1:45:52
  within this process of this building has been, they throw
• 1:45:55
  you at the worst end of the pit. And I mean, in California, in
• 1:45:59
  general. Always seems to be very hard on
• 1:46:01
  small business rules. Yeah.
• 1:46:03
  As far as like all the things you gotta follow and building
• 1:46:06
  permits. Yeah, I mean building from, I
• 1:46:08
  mean, my God, it just, but just to be just to be here at this,
• 1:46:17
  it's just to be sitting here talking with you guys in this
• 1:46:20
  bill. Adding is like this is your
• 1:46:23
  pride and joy right now. Yeah.
• 1:46:25
  I've been if this was look at this place.
• 1:46:27
  Yeah, it's like it's definitely one of the most unique shop
• 1:46:30
  because I think it's mainly because I see that that is an
• 1:46:35
  interior door. Yes.
• 1:46:37
  And then there's a car right next to me and that looks like
• 1:46:40
  the if I walked through, there would be a dining room set in
• 1:46:43
  there. Yeah.
• 1:46:44
  Yeah. Like it could be a house.
• 1:46:45
  Is that it's finished? Yeah.
• 1:46:48
  I just wanted it to be a nice. It's like it was your vision
• 1:46:52
  that you made reality and that's why I had to ask the question if
• 1:46:56
  you ever thought that you would be here.
• 1:46:58
  Never and it's so nice though because it's like you put all
• 1:47:01
  this work into something then you know, you're not going to
• 1:47:03
  lose it like we put so much work into our shop and we're going oh
• 1:47:05
  that's where I was at. I was I had everything in my
• 1:47:08
  shop and just where you guys are at and like oh my God and you
• 1:47:14
  know, Just like thinking long-term and I remember talking
• 1:47:20
  to my dad and it's just like, what are you going to do?
• 1:47:23
  Yeah. Like obviously that's not
• 1:47:26
  becoming more. Like we're watching some of the
• 1:47:28
  like Gibson exhaust and like all these really big players getting
• 1:47:33
  just totally like, you know, the leaving the stage.
• 1:47:37
  Yeah, I was gonna say leaving the states, which are the big
• 1:47:39
  thing or whatever. Or just getting their asked out.
• 1:47:42
  Like I think Gibson, like, I don't know what happened with
• 1:47:45
  them. They were over here and And I
• 1:47:47
  think they it's they were not happening across the board.
• 1:47:51
  It's it's all across in motorcycle companies and
• 1:47:53
  everything, California, everyone's, everyone's leaving
• 1:47:56
  because they have no options. I just this, how am I going to
• 1:47:59
  sell or do any of this? It's not serious enough to take,
• 1:48:05
  keep a rent, you know, to, I don't know.
• 1:48:08
  I don't know how to your worries, but it's just it's
• 1:48:10
  going to be harder to find a place to do business.
• 1:48:13
  And I looked I mean, I prefer Two years.
• 1:48:18
  I looked for another place to lease.
• 1:48:20
  Yeah because also I wanted I was looking at getting a penny,
• 1:48:24
  wanted a place that fit my business better because the
• 1:48:26
  place I was at was essentially just a giant garage with 200
• 1:48:32
  square foot office. Okay.
• 1:48:34
  Yeah. And it just basically what we
• 1:48:35
  have I was going to say you just described fact.
• 1:48:37
  Yeah, that's basically our job. Yeah.
• 1:48:39
  And the the they didn't want to, you know, why am I going to
• 1:48:42
  build out anything or add anything to this and it And you
• 1:48:49
  know it just was the area was not good.
• 1:48:53
  I was you know not in a great area.
• 1:48:57
  Yeah. And I was looking at was always
• 1:49:01
  looking especially whole weekend's.
• 1:49:04
  I'm looking at this and the only thing I would change.
• 1:49:06
  I need higher ceilings in a garage.
• 1:49:08
  That's what he said, exactly. That would be it.
• 1:49:10
  That was literally like, Yeah, well and I guess maybe we
• 1:49:16
  probably need more room but you do.
• 1:49:18
  But slightly, when I look at this in here and you just said
• 1:49:20
  you were looking for a space that fits you better.
• 1:49:24
  You mentioned that you wanted to make.
• 1:49:25
  I'm just going to use where we are right now because I can't
• 1:49:28
  wait for you guys the Watchers and listeners to if you are ever
• 1:49:32
  make it over here and you get to this point where you get to
• 1:49:34
  execute the idea that you have. I look at this and you wanted to
• 1:49:36
  make this like your your catalog.
• 1:49:39
  Yeah. If people can do this wall right
• 1:49:41
  here. I'm picturing like Rita boys
• 1:49:42
  like Sports shelf like like random.
• 1:49:46
  Fuck why the fuck is there? A Nook hat?
• 1:49:47
  Back on the wall? Yeah, that kind of deal and like
• 1:49:51
  It's just moving maybe on a couch somewhere.
• 1:49:53
  Yep. Like like it's yeah, you are
• 1:49:55
  your possibilities are endless and judging by the way that you
• 1:49:58
  operate it won't do anything but surpass what everybody is going
• 1:50:03
  to anticipate this place is going to look like yeah.
• 1:50:05
  When did you start remodeling this or working on this little
• 1:50:13
  over a year okay? You did this in over and just a
• 1:50:16
  year and some change. So I think the Want to say,
• 1:50:22
  maybe some from the time of pursuing to know it's like a
• 1:50:27
  year and a half, but there was like four months were just just
• 1:50:31
  was negotiation. Yeah.
• 1:50:33
  So you can really do it and then and then getting permits.
• 1:50:38
  Yeah, I mean, shout out to my dad, I mean without him and his
• 1:50:44
  persistence and helping me and that's awesome.
• 1:50:47
  Yeah. So is he is he in the business
• 1:50:50
  or of Now, okay, nothing is you just he's in the carpet.
• 1:50:54
  I was going to ask, how did he, how did you get it?
• 1:50:57
  He he he worked for a Nissan dealer and then, okay, but he
• 1:51:03
  went from a Chevy store to a Nissan Sarah, nice.
• 1:51:06
  Back of the Chevy store. Okay, but none of us have any
• 1:51:09
  business background at all, or means of this.
• 1:51:13
  I mean, yeah, we just like he was like, he, my dad was a big
• 1:51:20
  supporter. And me he's like if you're going
• 1:51:22
  to keep doing business you know he saw what was going on.
• 1:51:26
  Yeah around me and how you know, was really having a hard time
• 1:51:31
  finding a place that lease. Yeah.
• 1:51:32
  Yeah. And if I did find a place it was
• 1:51:34
  in another shithole. Yeah.
• 1:51:36
  It was in a totally bad are in an area year like, you know,
• 1:51:41
  you're not going to. You can spend a lot of time
• 1:51:43
  there. Like you don't want to do it at
• 1:51:45
  night like where I was at was pretty sketchy.
• 1:51:48
  Yeah. And that was okay because I I'd
• 1:51:51
  good. Well, I have when I moved in
• 1:51:53
  there. Had good neighbors.
• 1:51:54
  Yeah, and they were always there and say fellow safe.
• 1:51:57
  Yeah. I'm like, oh they got my back.
• 1:51:59
  I, you know, we all it was like a little Community but then
• 1:52:02
  everyone started leaving and yeah, that's, yeah, are like,
• 1:52:06
  oh, yeah. We got razor wire on this fence
• 1:52:11
  know like and there's also the part where yeah, since you are
• 1:52:16
  building stuff out now. Yeah.
• 1:52:18
  You're investing in your own. Stuff you're investing in
• 1:52:21
  yourself. This is your stuff.
• 1:52:23
  You're basically building on the car right now.
• 1:52:25
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:52:26
  This is the biggest. It's been hard for me to accept
• 1:52:28
  that because I still want to build cars.
• 1:52:30
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:52:32
  But it's just been but trust me the end result will be.
• 1:52:35
  It's nice. I have so much crap in my head
• 1:52:39
  from this building that I don't want never want it in there.
• 1:52:41
  Yeah, it's weird. Now, transitioning back to now
• 1:52:46
  that the building is I still have to do finish the front
• 1:52:49
  offices and all that stuff. Stuff like that's my favorite
• 1:52:52
  part. If we could just talk on that
• 1:52:54
  for a moment, his office has the there's no walls.
• 1:52:58
  It's just Windows all around it. And then you got the mountain
• 1:53:01
  ranges in the this. And this is the distance.
• 1:53:04
  God damn it. It's so fucking I walked over
• 1:53:06
  there before the sun went down. I was like, I just need to see
• 1:53:09
  this again. And like, I'm not one to be
• 1:53:11
  like, oh, I want. I want some boss shit, but your
• 1:53:13
  office has like the most perfect like you.
• 1:53:18
  Yeah, come into my office. Deposit.
• 1:53:21
  My shit. I'm in trouble.
• 1:53:22
  It's just a beautiful, beautiful place to work because you're
• 1:53:26
  going to be there. I like, yeah, I think he's been
• 1:53:29
  here. Like this has been a pleasure to
• 1:53:31
  be here and like I just, it's rare to see such a shop owner,
• 1:53:37
  that owns the building. I know that we can talk to about
• 1:53:40
  the building. Yeah.
• 1:53:42
  That's that's something that again in New Jersey is a lot
• 1:53:45
  harder than you think. Actually, I don't even know,
• 1:53:48
  find a fucking space like this. They're good fucking luck.
• 1:53:51
  I was looking the other day I just, you know, just well.
• 1:53:55
  The thing I do from time to time is I go on and I try to find
• 1:53:58
  this building that I saw this one time years ago, like 70
• 1:54:01
  years ago. Now me and my me and my buddy we
• 1:54:03
  were looking for places to lease and we got to this one spot.
• 1:54:07
  I remember. And it didn't work out because
• 1:54:08
  of probably because of, you know, know Automotive or Sprite
• 1:54:11
  shit. But we are like looking at the
• 1:54:13
  spot and the whole time I'm there I'm just like God imagine
• 1:54:16
  we could buy this property because it was like this Big
• 1:54:19
  high ceiling Warehouse like perfect shop sighs.
• 1:54:22
  It's probably like double the size of ours, I would say maybe
• 1:54:26
  even more than that. And then the rest of the lot was
• 1:54:30
  like, it was a fenced-off lot kind of like yours where it had
• 1:54:32
  like a whole like entryway and then a little parking lot area
• 1:54:36
  in the middle and then the other side was another building.
• 1:54:38
  Wow, when around it. So it was like a compound.
• 1:54:41
  Yeah. And ever since I saw that your
• 1:54:43
  like I was like, that's what I want.
• 1:54:45
  That's what I mean. You don't don't sign it at all.
• 1:54:48
  Yeah, I've definitely never going to sign offs, but it's
• 1:54:51
  just like, then within I'm looking for buildings and I'm
• 1:54:53
  just like, I saw one in Hackensack board where it's
• 1:54:56
  where I live. So it's pretty close.
• 1:54:57
  So, where we are now and I was just like, I've got the number I
• 1:55:01
  told Malcolm what it was and it was like 5 million or some shit.
• 1:55:04
  Yeah, some crazy member and I wasn't even that crazy.
• 1:55:09
  Yeah, you know what I mean? Well, let's just say this
• 1:55:12
  building had sat on the market for a long time.
• 1:55:14
  Interesting. And a lot of people were
• 1:55:17
  probably wrote this place. Soph because it didn't have the
• 1:55:19
  roll-up door. Yeah, it had.
• 1:55:22
  It was very, very limited what she could do with it.
• 1:55:25
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:55:26
  How would you get cars in or was it never never be, never
• 1:55:30
  intended to be. Yeah, but since you bought the
• 1:55:32
  building, you could just do whatever you want.
• 1:55:34
  Well, I guess own great as long as it's.
• 1:55:36
  So here is owning and then of course, the engineering that you
• 1:55:40
  can put a door in. Yeah, I mean that you can put
• 1:55:44
  yeah that put on a roll up that Putting a robe door in the
• 1:55:50
  building is like going for them to the moon for regular person.
• 1:55:55
  Because the door faces West, it's got to be a wind bearing
• 1:55:58
  door. Oh my God, there's so much
• 1:56:01
  engineering and so much BS. Yeah, and the person's going to
• 1:56:04
  come out inspect your field in though?
• 1:56:06
  No. Oh yeah.
• 1:56:07
  Your front wall has a crack in it.
• 1:56:10
  And I mean, that literally the front wall here.
• 1:56:13
  Yeah, you'll never notice. But like it had, it was broken,
• 1:56:17
  had a section that was broken. Yeah, I mean it's a cinder block
• 1:56:21
  wall. Yeah.
• 1:56:22
  Walls, never going to go anywhere.
• 1:56:25
  So he's like you gotta repair this you got to repair that?
• 1:56:27
  Yeah, first bid comes out 15 grand.
• 1:56:30
  Oh my God bro. Like laugh about it now we're
• 1:56:37
  just funny because yeah, it never ends and then and then you
• 1:56:43
  start talking to these guys. And you can't get anyone to
• 1:56:45
  actually comment on do with the work because it's not a big
• 1:56:48
  enough job of that as 15,000 dollar wall.
• 1:56:51
  Well, yeah, because they're used to deal with all these big
• 1:56:54
  corporations that are taken. Over everything.
• 1:56:55
  Now, as a small, businesses, get kicked out the brick wall and
• 1:57:00
  I'm literally like, oh my God, I'm freaking out on this brick
• 1:57:04
  wall and now you are allowed to repair this.
• 1:57:06
  Are you have to be, we don't know licensed, we don't know.
• 1:57:10
  There's no like black and white. We didn't know if we need to to
• 1:57:13
  get permits to fix this. Yeah.
• 1:57:15
  Okay. It's under 6 feet.
• 1:57:17
  So it shouldn't need permits and talk my dad.
• 1:57:19
  My god, dad, we're gonna get permits or they're going to
• 1:57:21
  we're going to fix this wall and they're going to tell us we got
• 1:57:23
  Terry back down. So yeah.
• 1:57:24
  It's under Whew, let's just go for it.
• 1:57:26
  I'm like, I'm losing my mind. Talk to my neighbors behind me,
• 1:57:31
  the guy the talking to the guys daughter and she's like what's
• 1:57:36
  holding you up? I call this brick wall in the
• 1:57:38
  front and she goes brick wall. She was my dad.
• 1:57:42
  You know, my dad was a masonry, his whole life.
• 1:57:45
  Are you that? And I'm like, I'm like, no
• 1:57:48
  kidding because yeah, he's bored.
• 1:57:50
  He's retired. And I'm like, no kidding.
• 1:57:54
  And I'm like, yeah, does he want to wear?
• 1:57:56
  Like I'm like, I'm like she's like, I think he'd probably want
• 1:57:59
  to do that wall if you want to do it like, yeah sure.
• 1:58:02
  Come on over. Yeah, he comes over walks over.
• 1:58:05
  It doesn't hey, you know, looks at the wall, it's like 5 grand.
• 1:58:09
  I'm like, don't do it. Just go for it.
• 1:58:12
  He comes out with him. I mean, this is a cinder block
• 1:58:16
  wall. It's full of cement.
• 1:58:18
  Yeah, he comes out with a saw with, with a toddler with a
• 1:58:21
  stone cutting blade and a Anna Anna?
• 1:58:26
  Anna, a sledgehammer. Oh, I am self for four days and
• 1:58:30
  men's probably in his 70s late 70s, a knocks down, the whole
• 1:58:35
  made, it happen. Me to happen, and that's a
• 1:58:37
  Specialists that work right there.
• 1:58:39
  Yeah. And he, and he, and then so on
• 1:58:42
  their property. So these two properties were
• 1:58:45
  connected at once. Yeah.
• 1:58:47
  And they had a fence and they're like, yeah, we want to get rid
• 1:58:49
  of this fits in like, let's do it.
• 1:58:50
  I'll pay for the fence. We'll get this all done.
• 1:58:53
  No, his luck. It was great.
• 1:58:55
  I was a blessing in disguise neighbor.
• 1:58:58
  Yeah. Fix this wall I mean man. 15
• 1:59:01
  grand. You kidding me.
• 1:59:03
  Yeah but that's what I mean. People.
• 1:59:05
  You just don't think and then they would have took like two
• 1:59:07
  weeks. Four weeks.
• 1:59:09
  Oh they were like we don't know when we can do it.
• 1:59:11
  Yeah. So and then like and then I
• 1:59:14
  called back and I'm like, when, you know, trying to like talk to
• 1:59:18
  other guys and then I got a bid for like 10 grand and, you know,
• 1:59:24
  Like oh my God. So I think that was a that was a
• 1:59:27
  blessing. It was a blessing.
• 1:59:28
  I'd literally what am I gonna do?
• 1:59:30
  Sometimes we got that was literally holding up.
• 1:59:34
  Getting the permit signed off. Oh, wow, yeah.
• 1:59:37
  So that was, before you really could even do anything else
• 1:59:39
  before that was the guys that got that did the wall, the
• 1:59:44
  cutouts. And, yeah.
• 1:59:45
  They got lazy because it's I couldn't get, we couldn't figure
• 1:59:50
  out some get to do that job because it's too small.
• 1:59:53
  Yeah, because I'm just a small yeah, I'm thinking about this
• 1:59:57
  and I'm like, is that too small to me?
• 2:00:00
  It's huge. Yeah, to These Guys, these guys
• 2:00:02
  are putting up the doors at Amazon. 45 doors a day, it's
• 2:00:06
  corporations, man. That killing everything.
• 2:00:08
  I mean, they just look at the, they look at this job, and like,
• 2:00:13
  I called one door shop, and they're like, well, you need a
• 2:00:15
  source, someone, to cut the opening and you need to get a
• 2:00:18
  steel guy to do the steel. It's so funny because I would
• 2:00:21
  have blue that fucking wall out, and be like, all right.
• 2:00:22
  So now there's a whole so can you guys fucking yeah.
• 2:00:26
  I'm yeah. But then you have to have the
• 2:00:27
  whole inspected. Yeah.
• 2:00:29
  That's the problem. Why don't you want to eat
• 2:00:30
  bearing beam that you cut? Yeah, well, you could you.
• 2:00:34
  Figure that out but like he's saying you can't really just go
• 2:00:36
  ahead and do things no citizen you know all these as so many
• 2:00:40
  things like that, you know, but like it's definitely I'm so
• 2:00:47
  happy. It's all good.
• 2:00:48
  I never want to put a wrong door.
• 2:00:50
  So now you're more at the stage of like pretty much just making
• 2:00:52
  it look the way you want it to look.
• 2:00:54
  Yeah. I mean it's been this has been a
• 2:00:56
  really hard transition. Yeah.
• 2:00:58
  For for for me is really getting down to like now.
• 2:01:05
  Well, you know you want to get to this point.
• 2:01:07
  Now, I'm at this point and I'm like, I got I got a lot of
• 2:01:11
  recoup. Gary like rebuild the business.
• 2:01:15
  Yeah. Really feel like you also need
• 2:01:16
  to make sure you celebrate yourself a little bit.
• 2:01:19
  Yeah, that's hard enough. People hard fucking go through
• 2:01:23
  hell, even doing that, let alone like that brick wall situation,
• 2:01:28
  like a night of anxiety. And stress that has on a person,
• 2:01:31
  you gotta make sure you congratulate yourself what you
• 2:01:34
  got. Congratulate Yourself by getting
• 2:01:36
  people here and that's really what I celebrating it with all
• 2:01:39
  day. I've never been, I'm going to
• 2:01:41
  admit, I've never been one being good at getting a bunch of group
• 2:01:46
  or building a bunch of hype. So it's this is a whole new
• 2:01:48
  process of having this facility like this because where I was up
• 2:01:52
  before I could just be Herman. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:01:54
  And that's how I was and I just literally locked myself in
• 2:01:57
  there. Did work.
• 2:01:58
  Yeah. And I just posted Instagram,
• 2:02:00
  just to sell stuff and yeah, you know, little here.
• 2:02:04
  There by the lake but now you got a.
• 2:02:06
  Now, you got a business? You got, I mean, a property.
• 2:02:08
  So, yeah, it was at the yeah, you know, now I can grow some
• 2:02:13
  legs. Exactly.
• 2:02:14
  You're, like, coming out of your shell with this.
• 2:02:16
  Yeah. It's definitely pushing me.
• 2:02:20
  This whole thing's been out of my comfort zone.
• 2:02:23
  Yeah. Now it's but now regarding to
• 2:02:25
  business it needs to be out of time.
• 2:02:27
  Need to get my out of my comfort zone.
• 2:02:29
  That's good though. So, I mean the best thing to do
• 2:02:31
  is obviously dress this up the way you want it.
• 2:02:34
  Then do an open house right now. To tell you the truth.
• 2:02:37
  I don't have the funds to address it.
• 2:02:40
  So so right now I'm just trying to make up makes a make.
• 2:02:44
  Yeah, some some some quick and dirty money it's like a it's
• 2:02:48
  this. Yeah, absolutely.
• 2:02:50
  There's a but you're going to Plateau.
• 2:02:52
  Yeah, yeah. But I mean, it is always like
• 2:02:54
  that we just went through. I mean we're going through
• 2:02:57
  winter right now? Yeah, winter is are like, are
• 2:02:59
  we? It's so degrees?
• 2:03:01
  Yeah, it's very weird, Wonder with the seasons.
• 2:03:04
  Business Automotive in general is dead in the winter, you can
• 2:03:08
  see I thought it would be different because people would
• 2:03:10
  be sitting around bored with their cars and want all the
• 2:03:12
  work. That's what it should be.
• 2:03:14
  But for some reason it's not people what happens is no one
• 2:03:17
  touches their cars until it's spring it would sit and then
• 2:03:19
  everyone comes at once. Everyone finally turns off
• 2:03:23
  Netflix. Yes.
• 2:03:24
  Bring in like the oh yeah, they're like, oh, shit.
• 2:03:27
  My car's. Not gonna.
• 2:03:28
  Yeah. Like, what the fuck?
• 2:03:29
  My car's not done. Let me go call faction.
• 2:03:31
  And then it's yeah. We're booked for two weeks, so
• 2:03:32
  it's crazy. You just ask At us how the
• 2:03:35
  seasons effect because here it's just Heaven every day.
• 2:03:39
  It's fucking beautiful every day but it's also, is it a curse as
• 2:03:44
  well? Yeah, you don't off time.
• 2:03:45
  Yeah, it never and never slows if you're doing good at least,
• 2:03:50
  but then when you doing bad, you're like, oh, there's no
• 2:03:52
  excuse for this. Yep, there's the obvious.
• 2:03:54
  Yeah, which is true, in our case too, because they could be, you
• 2:03:57
  could use it as an excuse as well.
• 2:03:59
  But we usually, the trend is once December, Basically
• 2:04:04
  November is like, you know, you get a Skyrocket because we
• 2:04:07
  always try to do some Black Friday sale or something.
• 2:04:09
  So we'll do that last hurrah before the end of the year and
• 2:04:12
  then December comes even December.
• 2:04:14
  Then you think I owe people are going to buy gifts, not really,
• 2:04:16
  you know, these in our business. What I've experienced December
• 2:04:19
  is not usually a great month. Yeah, so it starts December
• 2:04:22
  January, February, and usually like, even right now,
• 2:04:26
  mid-February, all of a sudden, it's starting to pick up again.
• 2:04:29
  Mostly because, like Carl said, our winter right now, is not
• 2:04:31
  real winter. It's for some reason.
• 2:04:33
  Yeah, it's It's really weird. Yeah, I guess it's called global
• 2:04:36
  warming. I don't know what everybody are
• 2:04:38
  supported. By the way.
• 2:04:39
  Is very environmental friendly. Oh yeah.
• 2:04:42
  Totally. But yeah.
• 2:04:44
  So it's like like we left and then we had like a 70 degree day
• 2:04:47
  in New Jersey, okay? I thought that was bullshit.
• 2:04:49
  Yeah. It's you're like, I'm going to
• 2:04:51
  California. Yeah.
• 2:04:52
  It's supposed to be cold and damp here, and I'm going to
• 2:04:56
  California supposed to be warm there and it's like 56.
• 2:04:59
  I got out of the, I got off the plane and I had preemptively
• 2:05:03
  taken off my Shirt. I'm wearing a t-shirt.
• 2:05:05
  I get outside. I'm like fuck it school.
• 2:05:08
  Got a cold. Yeah, and then you walk around
• 2:05:10
  all the California. People are liking wearing winter
• 2:05:12
  coat. I yeah dude is so funny because
• 2:05:15
  I mean someone has family knows what.
• 2:05:18
  Yeah folders and you come out here and there were like skiing.
• 2:05:22
  Yeah, it's an Ugg boots. The beanies today, we saw I know
• 2:05:25
  the beanie II was waiting in line to go get a coffee this
• 2:05:28
  morning and I'm wearing this exactly.
• 2:05:30
  As I am. If to those who are listening.
• 2:05:32
  I'm wearing my nice floral shirt Simon California.
• 2:05:35
  I don't even know if this is floral but I'm waiting in line
• 2:05:38
  and a lady and her I guess. I don't know some, but she was
• 2:05:41
  with somebody they come up and walk right next to me.
• 2:05:44
  And they are wearing a little tall ass winter coat.
• 2:05:48
  Yeah. Have the beanie on got gloves on
• 2:05:50
  and I'm like, and I'm over here standing in a T-shirt and I'm
• 2:05:54
  like, like it's a summer day. I probably look really odd right
• 2:05:58
  now, probably because everyone else is like, it's going on with
• 2:06:01
  him like we're his fucking clothes.
• 2:06:03
  Yeah. Heck does he know how cold it is
• 2:06:05
  right now? And it's cool to experience that
• 2:06:08
  though. I mean I own I now own two pairs
• 2:06:11
  of jeans and I always short I only wear jeans but I'm also a
• 2:06:17
  weirdo. Yeah.
• 2:06:18
  But see like I'll go back easily Now where's?
• 2:06:22
  Yeah. That's what you're that guy.
• 2:06:25
  That's where it's like. Yeah, it's but it's funny.
• 2:06:32
  I hear it's cool though. To Aryan sit.
• 2:06:34
  It's because we're not out here off different.
• 2:06:36
  Like a one thing I did notice since we're talking about things
• 2:06:39
  that we've experienced differently here is, I don't
• 2:06:42
  know if you experience this and actually you definitely
• 2:06:44
  experience as you said your family's in Massachusetts.
• 2:06:48
  No. One honks the horn.
• 2:06:49
  Nope. Yeah.
• 2:06:50
  What's up. Signals are horns.
• 2:06:52
  No one. Not even a courtesy tap not now.
• 2:06:54
  Yeah, even occurred. Not even I think a lot of people
• 2:06:57
  do it just out of straight fear. Oh like literally like, you
• 2:07:03
  know, Like I don't know on the East Coast people exchanged some
• 2:07:07
  words. Yeah and go on their way, no
• 2:07:10
  problem. Yeah, you drive.
• 2:07:12
  Yeah yeah here it doesn't go that way.
• 2:07:17
  It's like what's on dude? It's on the news.
• 2:07:20
  My seems that's but I don't know.
• 2:07:23
  I just think people fear that. Yeah.
• 2:07:25
  So they don't don't bother using their horn.
• 2:07:27
  Yeah, we heard I heard the door. Last.
• 2:07:28
  Don't time it was me. My accident was I was at the
• 2:07:32
  airport and it was only one horn.
• 2:07:34
  And it was like there you go to the Newark Airport.
• 2:07:36
  Oh somebody's crossing the street.
• 2:07:40
  Get the fuck see there's none of that friendly exchange.
• 2:07:44
  It's right here. They just probably but you
• 2:07:47
  notice it? I mean because people walk in a
• 2:07:50
  tunnel here. Yeah.
• 2:07:52
  And everyone's, a movie star. Yeah, yeah, we heard that.
• 2:07:55
  Yeah, I remember Jimmy Oaks is on our podcast and he was
• 2:07:59
  talking about it when he's first time in California and he was
• 2:08:02
  like, you know, he's got a vlog. Thing right?
• 2:08:04
  Yeah. So he and he said that was one
• 2:08:06
  of his first trips. He did.
• 2:08:07
  Right. Yeah.
• 2:08:07
  He said that it was more comfortable for him to do that.
• 2:08:10
  Yes. I am like so used to everybody
• 2:08:12
  being a movie star felt like nervous with the camera.
• 2:08:14
  And then he went out and he realized like oh everyone's like
• 2:08:17
  usually this. Yeah, no one cares.
• 2:08:19
  Everyone's trying to movie star. Yeah, I don't know when that
• 2:08:23
  this video that mean, we took some time out of our day
• 2:08:25
  earlier, to do something kind of silly.
• 2:08:28
  Can't wait. I need to talk about it, it'll
• 2:08:32
  be out because it will be boys in the hood.
• 2:08:34
  Yeah, the first one were showing him later.
• 2:08:36
  I need we need to show you this. Yeah.
• 2:08:38
  Because we saw an Alleyway while we saw an Alleyway.
• 2:08:40
  You know, that iconic scene where he runs away me and
• 2:08:45
  Frankie see this fucking Alleyway.
• 2:08:47
  And really like, I think I might have been like reggae a dead
• 2:08:50
  frog is like, we gotta record of a frame-by-frame remake about
• 2:08:53
  was like that Alleyways and and in my head I personally the
• 2:08:57
  problem that I had with YouTube is like, yeah, you don't really
• 2:08:59
  want to be like hey guys, what's going on and get record and
• 2:09:02
  record yourself and But we started doing this and and
• 2:09:06
  Frankie yells Ricky at the top of his fucking lungs, and we're
• 2:09:11
  just in this realm alley. Right?
• 2:09:12
  It and I know it was way, you're right.
• 2:09:15
  Actually. They weren't thinking about it
• 2:09:16
  street. They're just literally, like, oh
• 2:09:18
  yeah, we were filming this dumb shit, the whole time.
• 2:09:20
  And no one was really saying anything.
• 2:09:22
  Barely even looked at us because they probably see these weird or
• 2:09:25
  shit. Yeah.
• 2:09:27
  So that is something about l.a. that's kind of.
• 2:09:28
  Yeah, you could really accepts yourself here.
• 2:09:30
  Yeah, there's definitely this this That people think they're I
• 2:09:37
  don't know. I know.
• 2:09:37
  Yes, I've lived. Everyone's an influencer.
• 2:09:39
  Yeah, it's yeah. It's just, it's just, it's just
• 2:09:44
  different. That's our that's our ongoing
• 2:09:45
  joke for this trip. Yes, I yeah.
• 2:09:47
  We're influencers now yeah. Literally, when I was coming
• 2:09:50
  here at, I was telling my friends jokingly, I'm like, I
• 2:09:54
  gotta go over there and I got to try to pretend to be an
• 2:09:56
  influencer and record everything in the thing for me is like, I
• 2:09:59
  just like doing this podcast, shit, it's fun.
• 2:10:01
  Yeah, I think is conversation. This is a lot of I like learning
• 2:10:05
  says, yeah, this is, this is casual.
• 2:10:08
  And first of all, the cameras, nice and propped up on a tripod,
• 2:10:11
  and we're not chasing each other around and no one's going to
• 2:10:14
  edit this either. No, that's the best part.
• 2:10:16
  We don't need to really cut anything out and do feel like
• 2:10:19
  that's that's that's a testament to like how genuine it really
• 2:10:23
  is. Like I'm here and earlier when
• 2:10:25
  we're talking about suspension and shit I was so in all because
• 2:10:29
  it's shit that I've ever never heard.
• 2:10:33
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:10:33
  And And earlier, when you guys are mentioning how the circle
• 2:10:36
  goes around of hot rodders and now you guys are the hot
• 2:10:39
  rodders. Yeah.
• 2:10:40
  And you I think it's important because that next generation or
• 2:10:46
  even our generation is listening to this podcast or and getting
• 2:10:49
  the information just as much as you guys would like to.
• 2:10:52
  Because I'm not aging you, hopefully but just as well as
• 2:10:56
  going to say this earlier, we age, I would like to talk to
• 2:10:58
  those hot. I would love to talk to like a
• 2:11:00
  guy who was into classic Hot Rods.
• 2:11:02
  Yeah, and ask him. What the hell was it?
• 2:11:05
  Like, for you back then, like, you know, and what influence
• 2:11:08
  that build like, you know, even like probably you but your
• 2:11:12
  spirit I don't really know your age, but how old are you?
• 2:11:14
  Like I'm 36 36. Okay, so you're I'm 32, okay?
• 2:11:20
  So you're younger than Jason. Jason was 40, Jason's 40.
• 2:11:26
  So he got that experience. He got that fast and furious
• 2:11:28
  experience. Yeah.
• 2:11:29
  Movie comes out and everything. Yeah.
• 2:11:31
  I think he did it and he was mad about us so pissed.
• 2:11:34
  So you were too. Yeah, I actually didn't go.
• 2:11:37
  I mean, they had like a bunch of guys.
• 2:11:41
  I knew they're like, oh they're line eating view need to hear
• 2:11:45
  this now. Yeah, I just was so upset.
• 2:11:47
  Like, this is going to ruin the whole thing.
• 2:11:50
  Like, what? What, exactly like, how because
• 2:11:53
  it's just like know. It gives people what, like a
• 2:11:57
  false. Yeah.
• 2:11:58
  This is like, it's like someone It would be like, someone
• 2:12:05
  impersonating you and saying, like, like this is, this is who
• 2:12:10
  this person like. Yeah.
• 2:12:11
  If someone watching you for like a couple of days and they're
• 2:12:14
  making a movie like we're making a documentary about you, this
• 2:12:17
  guy's going to play you. As you have this, guy's running
• 2:12:20
  the script and you just gotta leave.
• 2:12:22
  Yeah. And we watch that, and all of it
• 2:12:25
  was filmed right here, like that, that first scene, where
• 2:12:29
  they racing down the street with confidence and Authority my son.
• 2:12:31
  And really, really? Yeah, that's 30.
• 2:12:33
  Miles straight away. 100 sugar shifting?
• 2:12:36
  Yeah. How many you got brother?
• 2:12:39
  I mean, in, you know, like those cars, some of them were used
• 2:12:44
  from people around but not even in our realm because those were
• 2:12:48
  like the cars, we would kind of make fun of mostly that went to
• 2:12:52
  Hot Import Nights at that, Celica Vengeance and die.
• 2:12:55
  Because okay, I can kind of, I can kind of see why because, you
• 2:13:00
  know, how many Times. I'll tell somebody, I work in an
• 2:13:03
  office and a lot of my co-workers on the older side,
• 2:13:07
  you know, many times. I'll tell somebody what I do for
• 2:13:09
  fun drifting. Then they'll tell me, oh, like
• 2:13:12
  that movie Tokyo Drift always and I and I, then I, I love that
• 2:13:16
  movie because I like making fun of it because it's so quotable.
• 2:13:20
  Like, like, why are you saying that?
• 2:13:22
  Like, and that's what their impression is of drifting,
• 2:13:25
  because that's what's in the media mainstream easily,
• 2:13:28
  accessible consumer media, is that so I can It definitely, I
• 2:13:33
  never thought that you guys would and then, you know, just
• 2:13:36
  stepping back and realizing like, you just laugh at it
• 2:13:39
  because it's ridiculous. Now, yeah, we can all laugh.
• 2:13:41
  So let me let me, let me explain what I think you're getting at
• 2:13:46
  because I want to know if I'm right.
• 2:13:47
  So you said it was like someone impersonating what you guys are
• 2:13:51
  doing, but kind of like, not really doing it the right way.
• 2:13:54
  And you said it was almost like, or not even cars, you would
• 2:13:57
  laugh at Chi. Yeah, or not even like, It was
• 2:14:01
  it was just go ahead. Sorry.
• 2:14:04
  I think, I think I got it. It's like, and they're basically
• 2:14:08
  what I'm getting at. Is the cars in that movie, the
• 2:14:10
  style they have in everything. Were you guys building cars like
• 2:14:14
  that at all? It was a complete was a portion
• 2:14:18
  of of the community that was building cars like that.
• 2:14:21
  But we were typically, like, we weren't.
• 2:14:25
  And those cars that were in those type of scenes, would not
• 2:14:29
  be Karzai. I've erased.
• 2:14:31
  Okay. You know, those were the car
• 2:14:32
  show cars in a way. I'm blanking on all the guys
• 2:14:36
  that would build those type of cars and those were magazine
• 2:14:41
  cars. Yeah, they would flaunt on to
• 2:14:44
  how to import nights, or any of those venues.
• 2:14:48
  Yeah, there was lots of no p and all that stuff.
• 2:14:51
  Well, the reason I bring it up is because it's like, when we
• 2:14:53
  think that even me being 32, like, when I think back on on
• 2:14:57
  the cars in that movie and stuff, that's almost the style.
• 2:15:00
  Of drifting cars. We like not as ricey in certain
• 2:15:05
  ways you take a little couple Q's.
• 2:15:07
  Yeah, but you take like especially like neon underglow.
• 2:15:09
  People like now that's like a big thing.
• 2:15:12
  The vinyl do you know, the way the but definitely I think all
• 2:15:16
  of it definitely just mixes back in because like guys that were
• 2:15:23
  that were the racing that that was happening.
• 2:15:27
  Yeah was happening out here. I don't even know where your
• 2:15:32
  drag racing, you know, the Imports and all the guys out.
• 2:15:35
  It wasn't happening a lot into like city streets and all that.
• 2:15:39
  Yeah, those cars out and the cars in the movies were very
• 2:15:42
  dressed up and they're like you said they're basically show cars
• 2:15:45
  how important I cars. So those probably didn't really
• 2:15:48
  look like the cars that were really drag racing around here
• 2:15:50
  at that time. Dirty, dirty cars.
• 2:15:53
  Just like and just fast as fuck. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:15:58
  Are your there? Two guys?
• 2:15:59
  That were And I mean, I wasn't even in to that, I mean that
• 2:16:04
  that was like, do those. There's people get shocked.
• 2:16:08
  Yeah. Like that shit like no, I'm no.
• 2:16:11
  Like so that aspect of it was almost kind of kind of really
• 2:16:15
  became what they probably weren't stealing stealing TV T
• 2:16:18
  know it's usually over sting bum runs and yeah you know somebody
• 2:16:23
  dips off with the money. Someone jumped like somebody
• 2:16:25
  jumps some stomach cycling. Stupid God.
• 2:16:30
  Oh thank you. No.
• 2:16:32
  Then you get lined up by the cops and he's just like, I don't
• 2:16:35
  know. Yeah, imagine now like with the
• 2:16:39
  development of Technology like a phone and cameras and digital
• 2:16:43
  media. Nowadays, you can record a run
• 2:16:46
  and you can frame by frame. See that guy jumped.
• 2:16:49
  But back then it was just a word.
• 2:16:52
  It's that person's word against that person's.
• 2:16:55
  Yeah, I saw like, you judge. Yeah, like imagine what kind of
• 2:16:58
  conflict can arise? And those are the good old dogs
• 2:17:01
  Marie crew. Like I can definitely see how it
• 2:17:04
  can be dangerous phones, ruined everything man.
• 2:17:07
  Yeah, I would feel like It's like here's like, so that shop
• 2:17:12
  that I used to that was next door to mine.
• 2:17:15
  There's this old timer. His needs.
• 2:17:17
  His nickname was pop pop. Okay, he he was the father in
• 2:17:22
  law of the owner of the shop. He come over.
• 2:17:25
  Hang out, give everyone shit but he built the baddest badass
• 2:17:29
  stuff. Yeah.
• 2:17:30
  Like like his stuff is acknowledged by the Roadster
• 2:17:35
  Show like the top honors. Yeah, on everything.
• 2:17:39
  He's got machine shop in his house, whatever he comes over,
• 2:17:43
  and talking to him about that. What they used to go down to
• 2:17:47
  Irvine and race between the Orange Groves.
• 2:17:50
  There's nothing out. There he goes.
• 2:17:53
  Oh yeah. When the 405 was being built,
• 2:17:55
  we'd race on the 405. We just drive on the dirt up to
• 2:17:58
  the 405, and we just hang out there all night and you just
• 2:18:01
  said that's my cool. California, when of History.
• 2:18:04
  Like while a road is being built and there's nothing there,
• 2:18:06
  nothing, he just drive, they just drive through.
• 2:18:09
  Cut through someone's Farm on to the 40 feet.
• 2:18:11
  Someone needs to do a podcast with that dude.
• 2:18:13
  Before it's too late you know? Like he we it was really and
• 2:18:17
  he's like he's been involved with I like the running at the
• 2:18:20
  Salt Flats and yeah suffer Lee. He was you know man nowadays
• 2:18:26
  like that's the thing is there was a that's that's about as
• 2:18:30
  hardcore as you could fucking get.
• 2:18:32
  Yeah. But I mean California has always
• 2:18:34
  had like a big history of drag racing.
• 2:18:36
  I feel like ever since the car was Cars were fucking invented.
• 2:18:40
  Like, so Corona with interesting is Corona is called The Circle
• 2:18:46
  City, it's because the city was used for a race.
• 2:18:51
  It's got in the city. You see a perfect circle?
• 2:18:54
  That was the race course. I need to.
• 2:18:57
  Yeah, we need an angry look. That's why I moved to Corona.
• 2:19:00
  And it's like, it's a thing. And I'm like, what while these
• 2:19:04
  streets like this? Yeah, it it was like, it was was
• 2:19:09
  like, I think it was in the 30 and 30 days of did that was a
• 2:19:14
  that was a cool time and even motorcycle racing iCarly
• 2:19:17
  Davidson stuff. If you go to the museum at
• 2:19:18
  Milwaukee, you see like all the old Races they would do it
• 2:19:23
  really is dude, let me see this shit.
• 2:19:25
  There's literally East West Grand Boulevard.
• 2:19:30
  It's a circle. See the circle right there.
• 2:19:36
  It's a literally goes under the freeway.
• 2:19:38
  You can literally you can literally drive on the regional
• 2:19:42
  race car. What the actual live is crazy?
• 2:19:50
  So how many people get arrested on that?
• 2:19:53
  Because, you know, these kids these days are probably just
• 2:19:55
  fucking. Yeah.
• 2:19:56
  It's cut up into so many military traffic lights
• 2:19:59
  actually. Yeah.
• 2:20:02
  Wow, just I'm just that's how that's California.
• 2:20:05
  Yeah, like so and there's what's crazy is like there's like some
• 2:20:11
  fast couple. There's like a fast food
• 2:20:12
  restaurant and they have a bunch of posters from all the bats
• 2:20:15
  events and stuff. How far is it from here?
• 2:20:18
  It's 25 minutes from here. Okay.
• 2:20:21
  Monday Monday, we ran up in the air.
• 2:20:22
  We have some time to do that. That is, that is like such an
• 2:20:26
  interesting piece of information that we would have never got,
• 2:20:29
  would have never known that shit.
• 2:20:30
  Someone's got to get this pop. Up in a fucking room for a
• 2:20:33
  podcast. Dude.
• 2:20:34
  It might you might have to be the person that does.
• 2:20:36
  I just think that's crazy because like he's those those
• 2:20:39
  that other generation did so many cool things.
• 2:20:41
  Yeah. And like probably things that we
• 2:20:45
  thought of like, oh yeah, wouldn't it be cool?
• 2:20:47
  Like you've never seen what a highway is getting built and
• 2:20:50
  it's and it's closed and it's paved just, there's just no
• 2:20:53
  lines painted on it or something.
• 2:20:54
  We used to do that. And I'm like, hmm, we used to do
• 2:20:57
  this shit by. So, MetLife Stadium is right
• 2:20:59
  near our shop and they had Part of the turnpike closed off for.
• 2:21:04
  I want to say like over five years.
• 2:21:06
  Wow. So we I used to have a little
• 2:21:08
  garage. It was basically a shed and
• 2:21:11
  that's where we work on cars. So we would take our cars out
• 2:21:14
  sometimes and go we coat it. We go to MetLife Stadium, but
• 2:21:19
  they're also building a stupid fucking mall that no one cares
• 2:21:21
  about at the American dream Mall.
• 2:21:23
  It took a long time. It's taken about 15 years and
• 2:21:25
  it's still and nobody cares. Yeah, not really like they just
• 2:21:29
  opened it and it still feels empty.
• 2:21:31
  Yeah. So, you would go in that lot,
• 2:21:34
  and then you would just keep going down and you make a left.
• 2:21:36
  And now you're going the wrong way, on the turnpike entrance
• 2:21:38
  ramp, but it's closed. So we would just be mangy and
• 2:21:41
  shit down that rant like down that straight.
• 2:21:44
  And than that would like the other day.
• 2:21:45
  I took it and it was opened. I'm like, holy shit.
• 2:21:47
  I used to drive down this shit backwards.
• 2:21:49
  But yeah, it's like finding roads.
• 2:21:50
  Like that is it's awesome when you can actually find in your
• 2:21:53
  like no one's here, but the way that you described that what was
• 2:21:57
  it pop the way that pop is is I'm picturing.
• 2:22:02
  It is that's literally the only time it's a long time ago so
• 2:22:06
  it's not like police officers. Have these wicked high beam
• 2:22:10
  lights that from a mile away to like, hey yeah, like oh they
• 2:22:13
  just run away from the car. Yeah, good good.
• 2:22:15
  They could probably make it. Yeah.
• 2:22:16
  Well yeah of course. We're all souped up.
• 2:22:18
  Yeah. That the cops were running, you
• 2:22:20
  know? Yeah.
• 2:22:21
  They knew what they were running.
• 2:22:22
  Like a little Caprice. Yeah.
• 2:22:24
  And you know, and they don't have this was like the 30s 30s
• 2:22:28
  and 40s. Okay.
• 2:22:29
  Now 30 and 40, they probably won't have a way of like the air
• 2:22:31
  are not like Probably know that was in the probably the fifth.
• 2:22:33
  Yeah, so by that point they might have radios to like,
• 2:22:37
  you're all right, pick him up. He's coming this way or
• 2:22:39
  something like that, but still, it's not like it is today.
• 2:22:42
  It's, there's a whole nother, like, Realm of that stuff.
• 2:22:45
  And I think also being around that stuff and seeing these guys
• 2:22:50
  try liked hearing stories about it.
• 2:22:52
  I think it made me when I started approaching my own
• 2:22:55
  project so it just would just dive in because that's what
• 2:22:58
  these guys did. I mean these guys took gas
• 2:23:01
  tanks. Off of bombers these, these were
• 2:23:04
  extra gas tanks, right wing dropper invested.
• 2:23:07
  Yeah. And then they would go to the
• 2:23:10
  military surplus store by these gas tanks and then build car
• 2:23:14
  build Salt, Flat cars. You know.
• 2:23:16
  Yeah. And they that's sick.
• 2:23:19
  And I'm, they just and they would use like, he's like, oh
• 2:23:22
  yeah, we would take these door actuators, these store the slow
• 2:23:26
  down the doors on the airplane when they do, open up.
• 2:23:30
  Well, because if we didn't have room for shock, Spring.
• 2:23:32
  So we use these to do as a suspension and they would just
• 2:23:37
  go to the surplus store and I like, that's cool.
• 2:23:40
  Yeah. And they just would with no fear
• 2:23:42
  just go. I mean, I'm sure there's fear
• 2:23:44
  but you just try it. Yeah.
• 2:23:45
  And like, and some people died along the way but, you know, it
• 2:23:48
  is what it is. I mean like I like when I saw
• 2:23:53
  when I was getting into and I was looking at magazines and I
• 2:23:57
  would see like, mitsuru like building like his third that At
• 2:24:02
  that, legendary blue Coupe. Will that be in sports?
• 2:24:06
  With the on 18/19? I saw that on, like, I don't
• 2:24:10
  know how, but I'm going to build that.
• 2:24:13
  Yeah, I just went and I went crazy.
• 2:24:15
  I went off way unto the wrong end.
• 2:24:17
  I hit my head and I was a kid and I tried it, but inspired
• 2:24:22
  you. Yeah, you tried it.
• 2:24:24
  That's the thing is like, I feel like especially in our Sport and
• 2:24:28
  our Hobbies, you just have to try it.
• 2:24:32
  If you especially if you have an inkling and you believe
• 2:24:34
  something is going to fucking work, it could fucking fail.
• 2:24:37
  It fills, most definitely will feel most of its harm and like
• 2:24:43
  the world and this like that. Wouldn't you got you guys these
• 2:24:47
  guys? As cars are built everything
• 2:24:49
  wouldn't be the way that it is without somebody going.
• 2:24:52
  I wonder if we tweak the suspension a little bit this
• 2:24:56
  way. Yeah yeah it's gonna work yeah
• 2:24:58
  like the bump the plane gas tank thing That's kind of fucking
• 2:25:03
  crazy. Yeah, I mean it makes sense, so,
• 2:25:05
  like, they are just trying to use things that they had, you
• 2:25:08
  know, because it's not like today where you can, basically,
• 2:25:09
  you can basically fucking make anything you want to make money,
• 2:25:13
  or, you know, someone that's the limiting factor though.
• 2:25:15
  Yeah, is how deep is your pocket?
• 2:25:17
  But back then it's like, it was probably easier if you like, oh,
• 2:25:20
  we got a bunch of fucking Bombs over here.
• 2:25:22
  Well, and then you had, let's say you saw during the war, you
• 2:25:26
  have all these military and Army and Educated gentleman
• 2:25:34
  machinists. Yeah guys, I have worked on and
• 2:25:37
  now they're got shops open. Yeah you know they repair shops.
• 2:25:41
  But yes, what they like to work on things on the side, you know,
• 2:25:45
  that's how like like a good. So you like you have moon eyes.
• 2:25:51
  Yeah. And I think that's that's a
• 2:25:53
  that's a corrupt leader went there.
• 2:25:54
  Fuck if you guys have time Monday.
• 2:25:57
  Yeah. Definitely go.
• 2:25:58
  Yeah. Dad is a company.
• 2:26:00
  I think that's a lot of people are just Did he take it for face
• 2:26:03
  value? As making kind of cool apparel
• 2:26:06
  and goods and stuff? Yeah, where it is actually a
• 2:26:10
  machine shop and they still grind cams.
• 2:26:15
  And like when you go over there to that shop, that's the real
• 2:26:19
  deal. Like they'll spin aluminum caps
• 2:26:21
  and they do metalworking and they build race cars.
• 2:26:25
  Like, how long have you been around?
• 2:26:28
  Oh God for long. Yeah, because I don't know much
• 2:26:31
  about them. No, I am not going to say I'm
• 2:26:34
  not going to say any number. Yeah, so it was really, really
• 2:26:37
  Dean Moon. And I mean, they built a bunch
• 2:26:42
  of legendary Salt, Flat cars and drag cars and he passed away.
• 2:26:51
  I know he passed away thinking the somewhere in the mid 90s
• 2:26:55
  because I used to mail order. I used to get shirts and stuff
• 2:26:59
  from them. Okay, Ed Roth shirts with the
• 2:27:01
  monsters. Jean it and stuff, as a kid.
• 2:27:04
  And what you're called, he passes wife took over the
• 2:27:09
  company and then to Japanese businessmen, bought out the
• 2:27:13
  company. They've, what they've got saved
• 2:27:16
  up and the company to what it is now, okay?
• 2:27:19
  And then, if you go to Japan, and you co so much moon eyes.
• 2:27:22
  Yeah, just normal. Like you see cars on the
• 2:27:26
  streets, this with moon accessories and yes, a plate
• 2:27:29
  frames of people wearing Moon stuff.
• 2:27:31
  That's where it. For MC.
• 2:27:32
  I was confused because I was like that seems like a Japanese
• 2:27:34
  company but it's not but now it makes sense.
• 2:27:37
  So it is crazy. They really revive the company.
• 2:27:39
  Yeah, I mean it was it was dead. The shop was there, but nothing
• 2:27:42
  was happening. So out of the loop with that
• 2:27:44
  because when I saw like I think I was, I was at an amusement
• 2:27:48
  park. I was at Six Flags and saw like
• 2:27:51
  a little kid with the moon eyes logo on his shirt.
• 2:27:54
  Yeah. And I was like, isn't that like
• 2:27:57
  that shop? Yeah.
• 2:27:59
  And then it's and then I walk in as umi's.
• 2:28:02
  Walking in the mall and then it's, and it's in there and
• 2:28:04
  wait. What?
• 2:28:05
  Angora Zumiez and buy its way. I was walking by, and I just saw
• 2:28:10
  like the moon eyes, the circle, the yellow.
• 2:28:12
  I never never have moon, eyes fans, what the fans made Moon?
• 2:28:17
  I should do. What Moodle has its tracks and
• 2:28:21
  like I didn't know that I thought moon eyes.
• 2:28:25
  Again, I thought it was a really Japanese company that would make
• 2:28:28
  hot rods. Which is kind of like, yeah.
• 2:28:31
  Well at first a lot of a lot of custom stuff and now make sense,
• 2:28:34
  a lot of like stuff that's one off.
• 2:28:36
  But what's like, what's crazy is?
• 2:28:37
  So, like so moon eyes makes their own their own, you know,
• 2:28:41
  they have their steering wheels. Hmm.
• 2:28:43
  But what you don't know, and they don't even advertise is
• 2:28:45
  they make the 6 volt adapters so you can put them right on.
• 2:28:48
  Actually, I just picked up the moon.
• 2:28:49
  Eyes will be this far, okay? And they, you just have to ask
• 2:28:53
  for it. They don't advertise it.
• 2:28:54
  Yeah, it's just so it doesn't fit like the normal.
• 2:28:57
  This is a three bolt wheel. The American people.
• 2:29:00
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:29:00
  Then you need a 6 volt for a party or whatever.
• 2:29:05
  That's and yeah, we got a if he's out of Camp because I can't
• 2:29:09
  believe I didn't even think about that because moon eyes is
• 2:29:11
  like such a feel like that's like a staple.
• 2:29:14
  Yeah. And freaked out that we had.
• 2:29:15
  There's so many things in the statements it is dude.
• 2:29:18
  And I'm not going to lie, we we've been all over this at.
• 2:29:22
  What is it LA County? I like counting.
• 2:29:23
  I'm sure you've been all over the whole bunch man and I've
• 2:29:26
  just been whipping this 2001 CRV like it's My job to yeah, it's
• 2:29:31
  been great. I want to, I want to touch touch
• 2:29:33
  on some of the stuff you make because so that's pretty
• 2:29:36
  impressive. Yeah, what are what are we at
• 2:29:38
  out of curiosity? Or two and a half hours and
• 2:29:41
  fuck. I didn't even notice.
• 2:29:42
  Yeah, yeah. We literally talked about so
• 2:29:46
  much stuff that I did not even. This is a great one, but I sort
• 2:29:50
  of go over that. We talked about the wing Yee
• 2:29:52
  made. So my question to you, I guess
• 2:29:54
  would be. Are you stocking these things
• 2:29:56
  right now? Are you still like, yeah?
• 2:29:58
  Okay. Yeah, there's salt Stone stock.
• 2:30:00
  The skid plates, the wings. Okay.
• 2:30:03
  I always try to keep things of inventory of okay so if someone
• 2:30:06
  wanted to buy the stuff they can pretty much created.
• 2:30:08
  Okay perfect. And then I also saw the bumper
• 2:30:11
  buddy for the S14. Yeah.
• 2:30:14
  So that's that's the one that holds the bumper up.
• 2:30:16
  Yeah. Holds the sides.
• 2:30:17
  And that's 3D printed to those are 3D printed.
• 2:30:19
  Yeah. Okay.
• 2:30:20
  Yeah. And just, I mean, I could send
• 2:30:26
  send it out and have it made but then it's just like, wow.
• 2:30:30
  I mean, one less person to rely on is that's great.
• 2:30:33
  You can quality control right then and the three, the printing
• 2:30:36
  materials now are so good. Yeah, if it's, I mean, it's
• 2:30:39
  probably that's not even a thought in my head when I saw
• 2:30:42
  that, I was never like, oh, that's going to be weak.
• 2:30:44
  I think it's going to work perfectly fine.
• 2:30:45
  Yeah. Well, and then next is a 1 for
• 2:30:50
  the X 13. Yeah, I've actually have a
• 2:30:54
  prototype and I've not happy with that and I'm starting all
• 2:30:58
  over. Okay.
• 2:30:59
  So it's Actually, that's the third one.
• 2:31:02
  Yeah, yeah done. And I know I could have released
• 2:31:05
  either the two and it probably would have been.
• 2:31:07
  Okay. Yeah.
• 2:31:08
  Especially for these sgfc people owe something to hold my bumper
• 2:31:11
  if I know. Yeah.
• 2:31:12
  That's not a zip tie. All right.
• 2:31:13
  Cool. I'll get it.
• 2:31:14
  Yeah. But you want to like so there
• 2:31:17
  was the, there was an autocorrect storm.
• 2:31:20
  One. Yeah, and I just hated how they
• 2:31:23
  fit. Yeah, we sold those for a bit
• 2:31:25
  too before Roy stop. So I just didn't I just I like
• 2:31:30
  when a product just yeah, just is done.
• 2:31:33
  There is little things about those ones that I didn't like
• 2:31:36
  like, you couldn't. I don't like how you have time
• 2:31:38
  to drill right through the meat of the fender that to send you
• 2:31:41
  to tap on something. It just collapsed.
• 2:31:44
  Yeah. But also like depending on what
• 2:31:46
  bumper you're running, you might run into an issue with fitment.
• 2:31:49
  I think it was a fiberglass bumper because the back comes
• 2:31:51
  around and like there's not much just depends.
• 2:31:54
  You have to grind it down, I'm pretty sure I had to grind mine
• 2:31:56
  down and I remember the first time I put those on, I actually
• 2:31:59
  was like what? Oh, fuck this.
• 2:32:00
  And I threw them away and I didn't run.
• 2:32:02
  I rented my own custom set of my actually putting the Bosch bar
• 2:32:05
  so I could just sit on the backboard.
• 2:32:07
  But then I went back and I took another look at him and I end up
• 2:32:10
  running on. Yeah but yeah, I know what you
• 2:32:13
  mean. You want you want you want to
• 2:32:14
  build something in. You want to be your standard.
• 2:32:16
  The the hardest thing is like you're talking about those
• 2:32:18
  variables. And what I'm trying to do is You
• 2:32:22
  know work down in the middle of it.
• 2:32:24
  Yes these cars are now 30, some odd years and plus you don't
• 2:32:28
  want to have to be like okay so this is a like because when we
• 2:32:31
  build when we make something or a kit or sometimes we got to go
• 2:32:34
  we got to go and we got explain like okay so it's not going to
• 2:32:36
  work if you have this or it's not going to work it with it and
• 2:32:39
  it's like you want to try to limit all of the yeah.
• 2:32:43
  But if you have this sort of situation anticipated.
• 2:32:46
  Yeah. That way, you know, you can
• 2:32:48
  rule, you can get one, you can get have more people buy it, and
• 2:32:51
  More of a universal products. So I totally get that one thing
• 2:32:55
  that I definitely hope that that gets translated to this podcast,
• 2:32:58
  is the fact that since it didn't work to your standard you're
• 2:33:01
  literally starting again like yeah, it's a testament to the
• 2:33:06
  Quality so and then also you know, in my head is also making
• 2:33:12
  parts to replace like I'm about to do I'm just working through
• 2:33:18
  the last part of it but you know that bracket on the That mounts
• 2:33:24
  on the core support for the fender is.
• 2:33:27
  Okay, you get the one bolt that. Oh yeah.
• 2:33:29
  I know exactly. We talked about.
• 2:33:30
  Yeah, we were thinking about doing the same thing.
• 2:33:32
  Yeah, you can Ethan was we're, we were repairing them on a car
• 2:33:36
  and he was like, we should just make this as a weldable thing
• 2:33:39
  that people can just buy. And I'm like, yes but it also
• 2:33:43
  sucks having to, you know, welded on.
• 2:33:45
  But well I mean yeah I mean a made one that you can weld and
• 2:33:49
  you can also install it as a Bolton audition.
• 2:33:51
  That would be, that would be good.
• 2:33:53
  I can show you before you. Yeah, I'd like to take a look at
• 2:33:56
  everything and then it's just finding someone again to work
• 2:34:00
  with the quantities. Yeah.
• 2:34:02
  That's literally, what's boiled them down?
• 2:34:04
  To is so getting it the price, right?
• 2:34:06
  Yeah, you know, like where I'm at now, but the pricing is I
• 2:34:11
  would be paying for what I want to sell them.
• 2:34:12
  For what I always told Roy when we were when he was selling the
• 2:34:16
  stuff, these little things that are important but you know,
• 2:34:20
  they're small I was like, dude, you better start raising these
• 2:34:23
  prices up. That was the first thing I told
• 2:34:25
  him I was like, you got to raise and obviously, you know, we're
• 2:34:27
  doing wholesale. So we want to make money on it
• 2:34:29
  too, but I was like, dude, people need this stuff and
• 2:34:33
  people don't want to make things any more.
• 2:34:35
  Yeah, they just don't want to do it.
• 2:34:36
  Well, I mean yeah, because when you can just buy it, why would
• 2:34:40
  you want to? Yeah, we were talking to Jason
• 2:34:42
  about this last last night about the fender to Fender braces.
• 2:34:48
  You know, the bottom when Roy made those.
• 2:34:50
  Yeah. And we were we were all like I'm
• 2:34:53
  here. When those came out, we were
• 2:34:54
  looking at it and we're like, who the fuck is gonna buy this
• 2:34:56
  one? You can go to Home Depot and buy
• 2:34:58
  a piece of flat part and just because that's what we always
• 2:35:00
  did. Yeah.
• 2:35:01
  And then he ran a whole business off of that.
• 2:35:03
  So it was like dude it's like people just don't want to do
• 2:35:07
  things anymore so if you can offer a product that is going to
• 2:35:09
  simplify their build. Yeah then that's it.
• 2:35:12
  Yeah. So get the money you deserve for
• 2:35:14
  it as well. Yeah, yeah for sure.
• 2:35:17
  Well that's that's that's the hard part.
• 2:35:20
  That's the hard trying to price it I'll see you price it out.
• 2:35:22
  Yeah. Because, you know, do you want
• 2:35:24
  to code it? No one of Co.
• 2:35:26
  Exactly. Yeah, everything.
• 2:35:28
  So right there. But I think the thing is, is the
• 2:35:32
  what's hard with, especially as chassis as my heart knows that
• 2:35:37
  it's just, it's When you make a part, you have to say like okay,
• 2:35:43
  possibly in the lifetime of this part.
• 2:35:45
  How many am I going to sell? Yeah, we just, you know, you
• 2:35:49
  look at the Miata, my skid plate, fits from 1990 or even 89
• 2:35:56
  production 8, and 1990 to 2005. Yeah.
• 2:36:01
  Oh, my God. Wait, I think I get what you're
• 2:36:03
  getting at here. Yeah, shelf life of an s13.
• 2:36:05
  Yeah. Well, how many are there?
• 2:36:07
  How many are they And sell that many to start with.
• 2:36:12
  Yeah. And we've been throwing them
• 2:36:13
  out. Yeah.
• 2:36:14
  Crashing them. And then most, and then you, you
• 2:36:17
  know. Yeah, you know.
• 2:36:20
  So the same time, like, I hearts with the cars?
• 2:36:23
  Yes. I want to see all these part.
• 2:36:25
  I want to because, like, what the American, sorry, I'm jumping
• 2:36:30
  dogs funny. But like, you have like to try
• 2:36:32
  five Chevy. Yeah.
• 2:36:34
  And so try five. I'm talking like 55 56.
• 2:36:39
  With 57 Chevy Belair sedans, they made the ungodly amounts of
• 2:36:46
  these cars. And there's so many of them that
• 2:36:49
  there's they this company called Dan, Chuck.
• 2:36:52
  Back in the 90s started making like just emblems and grills.
• 2:36:58
  And now, the company offers whole bodies and frames For
• 2:37:04
  those cars for those cars. Because there's just so many.
• 2:37:07
  There's so many. That's right.
• 2:37:08
  You just, but they've had the money and the backing.
• 2:37:12
  I we need a lot of parts for these cars but I just don't have
• 2:37:16
  enough car. A customers really to make 2222
• 2:37:19
  bona fide. The means of like making new
• 2:37:23
  quarter panels. Yeah, well our lower rockers
• 2:37:26
  front front fenders fenders. Yeah.
• 2:37:28
  That are OEM like Nano. Yeah.
• 2:37:31
  I mean the thing is every single day you get more Exists because
• 2:37:35
  of drifting and everything. So that's the good part, but
• 2:37:37
  like you're saying there's a cap on it.
• 2:37:39
  Yeah, you know, but then you get everyone buying the cars and
• 2:37:42
  cutting them up to put even if they have decent and put over
• 2:37:45
  fenders. Yeah.
• 2:37:46
  And it's like, like so I talked to a company that does OEM metal
• 2:37:53
  out of China. The thing is is they need like
• 2:37:56
  30,000 units. Of course.
• 2:37:59
  Today they can make you hoods. They can make funny aprons shock
• 2:38:01
  Towers. Yeah, shorts out Hood.
• 2:38:04
  Thuds, whatever. Making crazy quantities.
• 2:38:06
  Because there, but is there 30,000 s13, right?
• 2:38:11
  Yeah, I don't think so. There's even less us 14.
• 2:38:15
  Yeah. And there's leaving law says,
• 2:38:16
  15. But that's 15.
• 2:38:17
  At least you can still get some words.
• 2:38:19
  Yeah, for some reason, when we came here, I was like, Frankie.
• 2:38:21
  I can't wait to see one random s13 somewhere.
• 2:38:24
  Yeah, and I really haven't. It's been, it's been months.
• 2:38:29
  I see. I see more in New Jersey lately.
• 2:38:31
  A lot. It's weird.
• 2:38:32
  I'll drive to work. Yeah, the 10 minute commute,
• 2:38:36
  usually the only 240. Usually they only have 13.
• 2:38:38
  You would see would be in someone's driveway, like,
• 2:38:41
  cornerback corn. Yeah.
• 2:38:42
  And you're like, okay, is that person dead yet?
• 2:38:44
  Can I have the car? That's fucked up?
• 2:38:46
  That was always with originally, that's what happens.
• 2:38:49
  What's the market like great and where you guys are?
• 2:38:52
  I think I probably the same, as I feel like it's it once.
• 2:38:55
  Once the internet was involved in Craigslist, markets, place to
• 2:38:58
  feel like everywhere. It's just the same.
• 2:38:59
  Now, it says, like you cannot Ka 5, grand running like, you know,
• 2:39:04
  Because my heart's with the coop.
• 2:39:06
  Yeah. Well she's always be these.
• 2:39:08
  Cars can go away as long as if I had a coup.
• 2:39:10
  Yeah, to me like like oops, but like every Coupe is like six
• 2:39:16
  grand. No title.
• 2:39:18
  Oh rusted. Breast not here.
• 2:39:20
  Sorry. No.
• 2:39:21
  Rustier they'll be rust or something.
• 2:39:23
  You know engine are the engines out of it or it's some
• 2:39:26
  crackhead, you know, yelled. Now we are in the same situation
• 2:39:30
  by us. Okay.
• 2:39:31
  Yeah. I just was curious.
• 2:39:32
  Yeah, we got all the cars or molested their heart.
• 2:39:34
  Evil and yeah, that's the thing is, is like and we have rust,
• 2:39:37
  there's the is going to be that time where it's like again, how
• 2:39:42
  much, how passionate are you to do this right now?
• 2:39:45
  Yeah. Well you just got to you pay to
• 2:39:47
  play and you gotta find a way to price it, right?
• 2:39:49
  Yeah. You can't even like what hurts
• 2:39:51
  me is you can give the parts like when I was trying like the
• 2:39:56
  last couple builds I was doing for people.
• 2:39:58
  You can't even get the parts to do this, right?
• 2:40:01
  Yeah. What?
• 2:40:03
  What's? And that's?
• 2:40:04
  Where belt trim. Moldings belt.
• 2:40:06
  Trim moldings. That's all I got to say.
• 2:40:07
  Yeah. My tell my world.
• 2:40:09
  Yeah. The where the?
• 2:40:10
  Like you can you could get those now.
• 2:40:13
  Yeah. But they're what are they $150
• 2:40:15
  peaceful? But then they put disappear.
• 2:40:17
  Yeah. And you go months.
• 2:40:19
  Yeah. It was very weird.
• 2:40:20
  I don't think that's happening anymore though because I know
• 2:40:22
  what you're talking about because I was experiencing that,
• 2:40:25
  I don't think it's happening anymore but what they're
• 2:40:26
  probably making more of their Mages.
• 2:40:28
  Yeah, and I know I was in the same boat where I was like, oh,
• 2:40:31
  we're going to run out of Of, you know, we're going to run out
• 2:40:33
  of. There's only four left in the
• 2:40:34
  country, that's it. And then you wait a couple
• 2:40:37
  months, and it'd be a, their real estate again, you know?
• 2:40:40
  But nowadays Everything's changed.
• 2:40:43
  Everything's changed in Nissan USA and no longer do you get
• 2:40:47
  things through Nismo. Yeah, you're getting every
• 2:40:49
  everything's being brought over by Nissan.
• 2:40:50
  Yeah, it's definitely changed up.
• 2:40:53
  I think they I do think they're still producing.
• 2:40:55
  A lot of these parts may be the market.
• 2:40:58
  That is maybe to be Taken care of is the parts that will
• 2:41:05
  improve the longevity of your 240 first.
• 2:41:08
  Not make more faster. Yeah, dashboard dashboards would
• 2:41:11
  be one dashboards. Imagine if that will CH dude, if
• 2:41:14
  people are of course p dash. Yeah if Peter MacCready printing
• 2:41:19
  fucking Arrow kits to build molds off of versus doing that
• 2:41:24
  foam method and which I thought was the only way that you could
• 2:41:27
  do it. I didn't even know about the 3D
• 2:41:28
  printing thing until recently and just imagine like like the
• 2:41:32
  possibilities and the technology of 3D printing can get better.
• 2:41:36
  Yeah. And it probably will get better.
• 2:41:37
  I mean the only the only going back to the pricing and the
• 2:41:41
  quantities and how many cars are there.
• 2:41:43
  The only way you really get around?
• 2:41:44
  That is, guess what? Now, you guys have asked 13s.
• 2:41:48
  Well, everyone wants these cars. So the price is everything is
• 2:41:50
  going to rise. Yeah.
• 2:41:51
  And that's really all we can do like, obviously, that doesn't
• 2:41:54
  help the quantity. Minimum, quantity, problem.
• 2:41:55
  Yeah. But what's Out your way.
• 2:41:59
  What's like you guys have smog oh my God.
• 2:42:05
  Yeah yeah we heard we heard yeah we heard that some big limiting
• 2:42:10
  factor. I know a bunch of guys that has
• 2:42:12
  just sitting on cars because they can't smell them and they
• 2:42:16
  could so they're not. So what is how does this with?
• 2:42:20
  What's that dirty smog thing? That Jesus has smog?
• 2:42:24
  Yeah. So you pay someone it's like
• 2:42:26
  paying someone off to make. But it's definitely the
• 2:42:29
  allegedly we someone yeah he kind of run another car I guess.
• 2:42:38
  Oh yeah okay so we do that in terms of inspections inspection
• 2:42:42
  vehicle inspection because usually they'll plug in OBD2.
• 2:42:45
  This is anything about 495 is free game and in our state but
• 2:42:49
  that's a dream. Yeah.
• 2:42:51
  But I promised OBD2 is like they'll plug into your car.
• 2:42:54
  Yeah. So if they see anything, it's
• 2:42:57
  the same thing here. Here for OBD2.
• 2:42:59
  But OBD one that this corresponds to run on a Dyno
• 2:43:04
  with a sniffer. I heard about that shit.
• 2:43:06
  Yeah. And and then you have like
• 2:43:08
  pressurized they need it pressurize the gas tank and the
• 2:43:11
  EVAP system is supposed to work. Yeah, we I mean I've seen those
• 2:43:16
  like setups and shops before. Yeah, the thing is is now that's
• 2:43:21
  with these this new system like they have this biometric system
• 2:43:25
  I guess is they're talking about so you can't even I smoke.
• 2:43:30
  Yeah, so dude, it's just so what people have used that people
• 2:43:33
  have car sitting because they can't get some.
• 2:43:35
  Well, there's what they're trying to figure out.
• 2:43:37
  Like oh, like when drive it you mean, yeah, you can you can
• 2:43:40
  register it. Holy shit, dude.
• 2:43:42
  That is really less. You can get a less.
• 2:43:45
  You have someone that can you just draw a cat on it or like
• 2:43:47
  it's not us, not the snow. But you need the car has to
• 2:43:50
  perform like it was when it was new.
• 2:43:53
  The fuck. I don't even know what to say.
• 2:43:56
  Because both my cars are OBD2. And guess what doesn't have
• 2:44:00
  inspection. Both my cars.
• 2:44:01
  Yeah. Like that's another thing is
• 2:44:03
  like, oh yeah. And that's the other thing with
• 2:44:05
  us inspection. You can, you can register a
• 2:44:06
  vehicle and drag one knows. Yeah.
• 2:44:08
  Just going to take it, they'll tell you like you'll register
• 2:44:10
  vehicle and they'll tell you, you have 14 days to inspect it,
• 2:44:13
  I take that notice. I put it in a glove box, and
• 2:44:15
  when I get pulled over, I'm like, oh my God, I must have
• 2:44:17
  forgotten to inspect it because it's they can't initially pull
• 2:44:20
  you over for that. Hmm.
• 2:44:22
  Like they can't go and like, they're shining the light and
• 2:44:25
  they notice you don't have an inspection sticker.
• 2:44:27
  I think they can pull you over. No, it's not a primary offense.
• 2:44:31
  Are you sure? Yes, that explains a lot because
• 2:44:33
  I haven't got pulled over for mine for years.
• 2:44:36
  I don't have a stick. Sometimes, I'll put my hat in
• 2:44:38
  that little corner where the inspection sticker supposed to
• 2:44:40
  be. It's in the bottom left of the
• 2:44:41
  windshield or driver side. Windshield.
• 2:44:43
  Yeah, and I'll put a hat on the dashboard or something like
• 2:44:46
  that. If I'm feeling paranoid and
• 2:44:49
  it'll like kind of like if you were shining a light, you
• 2:44:52
  weren't going to immediately see that?
• 2:44:53
  Yeah, you never know like if it's going to draw attention or
• 2:44:56
  take it away like people who put their license plates in the Jazz
• 2:44:58
  Dash, I'm bored. I'm like no that that wrong
• 2:45:00
  attention. Yeah that is he don't run, don't
• 2:45:03
  want it because then like if you pass by the police officer is
• 2:45:05
  going to maybe assume you're in Pennsylvania from Pennsylvania.
• 2:45:07
  Yeah. But it's that big in just
• 2:45:09
  bright. It's like, dude.
• 2:45:10
  That's not yet. First of all, you can't have
• 2:45:12
  anything up to. Ya have anything sharp license
• 2:45:15
  plate? Just getting ready to decapitate
• 2:45:17
  you. That's I didn't even think about
• 2:45:18
  that. But no, yeah, you can you can
• 2:45:21
  it's kind of I would say it's loose but they're not good for.
• 2:45:24
  I mean, Like like you can get, I mean you can be ruined by the
• 2:45:31
  police out here, just for cruise on a car.
• 2:45:33
  Yeah, I've so I, so we've heard. Yeah.
• 2:45:36
  We don't have that problem. That's, that's terrifying.
• 2:45:38
  Because it is absolutely like, where I had my S14 storage was
• 2:45:44
  like 100 and over 100 miles away from here.
• 2:45:48
  Hmm. And I wasn't worried as much as
• 2:45:51
  the car, as much as The cops cops even though the car is
• 2:45:55
  insured and it's got its all the yeah, stickers and registration.
• 2:45:59
  They can just hit, they have a hair up there.
• 2:46:01
  But, yeah, I can just make your life.
• 2:46:04
  So when you drive that car around or something, do you like
• 2:46:06
  get worried? Yeah, absolutely terrified.
• 2:46:09
  I don't drive it that much because of, that, that is insane
• 2:46:13
  and it's also took our stuff. We just talked about that goes
• 2:46:15
  on in California. It's sad.
• 2:46:17
  Honestly, it's sad. It sucks.
• 2:46:18
  It's like the ultimate cook. Yeah.
• 2:46:20
  You know what? It's funny.
• 2:46:21
  It's like, it seems like he has less problems I guess because
• 2:46:25
  the crime rate is worried about that.
• 2:46:27
  Yeah, you get in these areas where it's more for things are
• 2:46:29
  not people over there. Just cops are bored.
• 2:46:33
  Yeah, yeah. They got nothing else to do or
• 2:46:35
  God forbid. You have to drive through a
• 2:46:36
  neighborhood and he heads. Hey, that guy's got definitely
• 2:46:42
  no cats. It smells like 93 out here.
• 2:46:46
  Yeah dude. That's I mean that's a whole
• 2:46:47
  thing. We don't have to deal with.
• 2:46:48
  Thank God. Thank God.
• 2:46:50
  I always been opposed to my thought about Making Parts,
• 2:46:54
  because if you just can't register the cars and yes, it is
• 2:46:57
  Citrus track. Use world's a lot of guys.
• 2:46:59
  Yeah, but that is just one state.
• 2:47:01
  It is a very important state. It's crazy, but it is just one
• 2:47:05
  spot. Yeah, it's like, but that's your
• 2:47:07
  home state. One very large spot.
• 2:47:10
  It's an important one for sure. Gigantic spot.
• 2:47:12
  Yeah, but yeah, like my buddy, move up to Washington and he's
• 2:47:16
  like, don't worry about anything up here.
• 2:47:18
  Yeah, just pay it for it and you're done.
• 2:47:21
  Yeah, it's definitely. Don't know.
• 2:47:23
  We'll see what happens. I mean California's always been
• 2:47:25
  on that. You know that mean the car bro.
• 2:47:28
  The carp situation. Yeah, we'll see what else.
• 2:47:31
  Dame, maybe one day the Republicans win back the state
• 2:47:35
  and imagine to just get rid of everything.
• 2:47:37
  I don't even want to know, will fucking happy crazy man, what
• 2:47:41
  else you got on there? Well, so I got on here.
• 2:47:46
  Okay. This one, which I'm probably
• 2:47:48
  going to buy from you before. I leave the power steering line
• 2:47:51
  for this 13. Okay.
• 2:47:53
  Well, we need to talk about, send you some, yeah, dude, that
• 2:47:56
  line, I don't know how you're doing that, but it's perfect
• 2:47:59
  because we me and Chris are always trying to will be like,
• 2:48:02
  yeah, we gotta go. We gotta go to Pep Boys again
• 2:48:04
  and try to find something. Yeah, that'll work.
• 2:48:06
  So really as we're sitting on the on my friend's couch that we
• 2:48:10
  stayed out last night, Frank. He's like, I need this.
• 2:48:12
  Yeah, I need this. And I'm like any occasionally
• 2:48:15
  you'll find something. Looks like we found stuff that
• 2:48:17
  works for like the heater core for us our swaps, you know?
• 2:48:20
  So we we grab those part numbers from daco and we just make a
• 2:48:23
  little kitten. Yeah.
• 2:48:24
  These'll work. So yeah, use that.
• 2:48:27
  But yeah, dude that one and you offer the OEM clamps and yeah,
• 2:48:30
  so that's pretty nice. Yeah, definitely that was just
• 2:48:33
  out of like every car. Every s13 I have come into my
• 2:48:37
  shop. Yeah.
• 2:48:38
  Needs this hose and that hose is discontinued.
• 2:48:41
  Yeah, let me let me just take care of this for everybody.
• 2:48:45
  I'm going to make one, I just got so tired of and you can
• 2:48:49
  still get the S14 one. Yeah, but it's completely
• 2:48:52
  different. Yeah, the whole reservoirs
• 2:48:53
  different. Everything is different.
• 2:48:55
  I love the 13 Reservoir compared to the 4213 one looks awesome.
• 2:48:59
  Little different 14. Looks a little.
• 2:49:01
  Yeah. It's like, is this going to give
• 2:49:04
  up? Yeah, it's plastic.
• 2:49:05
  Basically. It's plastic versus Metal.
• 2:49:07
  Yeah, yeah. But now that was basically it.
• 2:49:09
  I just, I just wanted to let everyone know that you have
• 2:49:12
  these products because they are helpful products and I think
• 2:49:14
  they need more attention. Then yeah, they get and I only
• 2:49:17
  saw your I only saw your social media a couple months ago
• 2:49:21
  because of Chris Chris sent me, a link to one of your products
• 2:49:26
  and he was like he beat us to it or something like one of those.
• 2:49:30
  So I was like, okay I started this thing too.
• 2:49:33
  And I feel like it's not even if you see like something sold by
• 2:49:39
  someone else. Unless it's like, just an oem.
• 2:49:43
  Yeah part. There's always another means to
• 2:49:45
  To another way to do it. Yeah.
• 2:49:47
  Stuff like that. I think that's the beauty of
• 2:49:49
  business is. Yeah, when you have the fruit
• 2:49:53
  you have multiple options for 11.
• 2:49:56
  Yeah. Any customer can decide what he
• 2:49:58
  which just way too much. I would do that to myself and
• 2:50:01
  I'm like yeah you know what, you can't think that way they'll
• 2:50:04
  just make it myself. Yeah, make it better or, you
• 2:50:07
  know, offer just there's they'll be sold out.
• 2:50:10
  I'll have them. Yeah, they'll be all
• 2:50:12
  peace-loving. Which thankfully like like we
• 2:50:15
  said earlier, I'm The community is growing, there's more people,
• 2:50:17
  drifting people are buying these cars.
• 2:50:19
  People are trying to save these cars more now than they were.
• 2:50:21
  You also have a lot of people that I feel like are just buying
• 2:50:24
  their just into these cars. Are they coming back to these
• 2:50:28
  cars? And like I did a nice 14 for our
• 2:50:31
  guy. No intentions drifting.
• 2:50:33
  Yeah, he's the best. He's the same age as I am now.
• 2:50:37
  He has money. Yeah.
• 2:50:39
  And or has the means to build the car that you want.
• 2:50:45
  Yeah. And he can enjoy, you know,
• 2:50:51
  enjoy it just how it is. I think there's a lot of I think
• 2:50:55
  there's a that's a growing demographic for sure.
• 2:50:58
  Yeah, for sure, take that midlife crisis of that of that
• 2:51:01
  older gentleman that buys a I don't know what the car would be
• 2:51:06
  for that person who would Corvette a vet?
• 2:51:09
  Yeah. Or like something American like
• 2:51:12
  big body. So I know a lot about so I said
• 2:51:14
  they go to their backyard. They go, you know I've had This
• 2:51:16
  for 20 years. I might as well do something
• 2:51:17
  with it. Yep, that's you.
• 2:51:18
  Yeah, literally gonna be there. It's you and your black heart
• 2:51:23
  that you stole from me. Oh yeah.
• 2:51:24
  I have I have like the only clean black 240SX car in New
• 2:51:28
  Jersey right now, but no one knows about it.
• 2:51:30
  Was Immaculate child. I didn't know Frankie, at this
• 2:51:34
  time, I the podcast listeners are had this heard the story so
• 2:51:37
  many times, but I had unfortunately wrecked my has 13
• 2:51:41
  and like, the bills. I do.
• 2:51:44
  I'm a little more new to the mechanical aspect of it, because
• 2:51:47
  it was just so recently that I was like, Dad gained a fucking
• 2:51:50
  attitude. I'm just going to try it.
• 2:51:53
  And I totaled my, I didn't total it, but it was T-boned by a new
• 2:51:56
  driver, my coop. And when I was looking for a
• 2:51:59
  shell, I found this beautiful show, it was black.
• 2:52:01
  Just I was and I said the coop just died.
• 2:52:04
  It was an SEC. It was it was in the The a dino
• 2:52:10
  it said, before the motor was pulled, all the options worked
• 2:52:14
  and I was like, oh, hell yeah. And then I had, I was a kid.
• 2:52:19
  I didn't have a trailer, I didn't have a truck.
• 2:52:20
  I was going to U-Haul was going to rent both of those things and
• 2:52:23
  then he texts me. Hey man, somebody just picked it
• 2:52:26
  up, they came with a truck and trailer ready to go.
• 2:52:28
  A couple of years later, I meet Frankie and he has the fucking
• 2:52:30
  car. You bought the car that?
• 2:52:31
  Yeah. So I was.
• 2:52:33
  So I was that, I didn't know him.
• 2:52:34
  I know, I think you knew of me. I knew Chris, but I do know.
• 2:52:38
  Oh, you bought this car from sitting at me?
• 2:52:40
  I'm sitting at work at Nissan and I was on Craigslist and I'm
• 2:52:43
  like, and let me tell you why I did, I would do this.
• 2:52:46
  My car has over fenders. Yeah.
• 2:52:48
  And that's my drift car. Was my only good?
• 2:52:49
  I would. Yeah.
• 2:52:50
  So it had over Founders, right? And in my mind, I was like, I
• 2:52:54
  just hated them so much and I was like, I don't want these
• 2:52:57
  anymore. So occasionally, I'd go and I
• 2:52:58
  look through for a car which I really don't do.
• 2:53:01
  I know since I've never done that.
• 2:53:03
  Yeah, so I'm looking and I see this car and I'm like Of course
• 2:53:08
  it says no rust, every ad in New Jersey says no rust.
• 2:53:10
  No, this was a prerequisite is not.
• 2:53:12
  There's not one car. That doesn't mean you go to make
• 2:53:14
  the ad. Yeah.
• 2:53:15
  As it already. And they're yeah, this is really
• 2:53:16
  nice. Hey everybody.
• 2:53:20
  So the only bad thing about this car was he cut a big hole in the
• 2:53:24
  engine bay where you agree to intercoolers, but it was bigger
• 2:53:27
  than normal. Yeah.
• 2:53:28
  So I was like okay, that sucks but I'm looking at it.
• 2:53:30
  The engine bay looks spotless basically, like it was repainted
• 2:53:35
  kh3 the black right? That's okay.
• 2:53:38
  It looks pretty good and then he said, yeah, sorry it was Sr, I
• 2:53:41
  removed it. I'm selling the shell.
• 2:53:43
  It had a bunch of parts SPO arms in the back.
• 2:53:45
  Repainted subframes. Like everything is just it
• 2:53:49
  looked really, really clean. Yeah, too good to be true.
• 2:53:52
  So I text him. I'm like, all right, so send me
• 2:53:53
  photos of the rust he's like which is what how I start every
• 2:53:57
  single conversation off of everything.
• 2:53:58
  All these people because I want to see how they're going to the
• 2:54:00
  worst. Yeah.
• 2:54:01
  Because they're either going to lie or they're going to send you
• 2:54:04
  photos. Yeah so he goes, there's no And
• 2:54:08
  I'm like okay here we go sighs. You know really?
• 2:54:10
  Yeah I'm like here we go man. I gotta find these fucking
• 2:54:13
  emails man because so we have the ECB.
• 2:54:15
  Yeah so I'm like I'm like some of you folks.
• 2:54:17
  Come on man. Semi photo frame rail.
• 2:54:18
  Come on. What are you doing?
• 2:54:20
  So you goes under, he takes a photo and it looks brand-new and
• 2:54:23
  I was like Here was the problem. The car was basically near
• 2:54:27
  Pittsburgh Pennsylvania, it was far.
• 2:54:29
  Pennsylvania is the worst state to drive through the trailer.
• 2:54:32
  It's Farmland, there's Hills, and it's the longest State near
• 2:54:36
  us. Yeah.
• 2:54:37
  And you have to drive through it to get anywhere in the west, so
• 2:54:40
  we hate it. So I was like, okay, am I really
• 2:54:43
  going to drive out the Pennsylvania right now?
• 2:54:45
  Hey, and I'm gonna get there and I'm going to be like this, car's
• 2:54:48
  a piece of shit and leave without I was like I was like I
• 2:54:50
  guess I'm getting this car no matter what at this point
• 2:54:52
  because I'm not coming back when nothing, it was pretty.
• 2:54:55
  Reasonably priced too. Well, he priced it with all the
• 2:54:57
  parts on it. So it was that it wasn't like,
• 2:55:00
  you know, back then it was like, oh, thousand dollars for a shell
• 2:55:02
  or less. I think it was 2,700 bucks.
• 2:55:04
  I think that numbers right in my mind, I have 3,000, but I have a
• 2:55:07
  feeling, I wouldn't have paid three thousand.
• 2:55:09
  I did it because I remember I did you'd have them take off the
• 2:55:11
  shit. Know what I did was I texted
• 2:55:13
  Ethan and I said hey so I might go by this car right now.
• 2:55:16
  It's got SPL this it's got z32 rear brakes.
• 2:55:19
  It's got this. He's like a by this.
• 2:55:21
  I'll buy that. I'll buy that.
• 2:55:22
  I'm like. All right.
• 2:55:23
  Cool, I'm going to go buy it. I get there.
• 2:55:26
  It was one of those moments where like, you get there and
• 2:55:28
  you're, you're so excited. But you're like I need to act
• 2:55:31
  like this car sucks because this guy obviously does not know what
• 2:55:34
  he has right here. Like that's how it felt.
• 2:55:36
  They just had to play the part. Yeah, I was like, oh yeah dude.
• 2:55:40
  Um, it looks okay. Yeah, I'll take it and he's
• 2:55:43
  like, I'm like what else you have?
• 2:55:45
  Like, any start showing me his garage.
• 2:55:46
  He's got Transmissions everything.
• 2:55:47
  I was like. Yeah dude, I'll take that.
• 2:55:50
  I'll take this. Just play it straight, dude.
• 2:55:53
  I was like and I get back in the car and I leave.
• 2:55:54
  And I'm like Holy fuck. I finally found like my forever
• 2:55:58
  car. You know I mean where you just
• 2:55:59
  hit Pay Dirt. Yeah, so I get it back, throw it
• 2:56:03
  on, jack stands, take parts off, that Ethan wanted, it was there
• 2:56:07
  for like a couple weeks and then we're looking at this car and
• 2:56:09
  Ethan's like me. He's very like OCD with
• 2:56:12
  everything and we're looking at this car and we're like, okay, I
• 2:56:14
  can't drift this car, dude. No, this isn't the car that
• 2:56:18
  because I would drive my car hard and break it, you know,
• 2:56:20
  whatever I was like, I'm not swapping shells, like this,
• 2:56:24
  isn't it? So So I'm going to keep it but
• 2:56:27
  we're just going to build look nice.
• 2:56:28
  Car one day and this was a long time ago, I really haven't done
• 2:56:31
  anything with God moved it. So I ended up, I redid like the
• 2:56:36
  suspension, the suspension is technically done, it's not my
• 2:56:39
  place to apron, you fix the apron Ethan six, the whole apron
• 2:56:43
  aside, we got it, we bought a Sylvia front clip and we just
• 2:56:47
  started taking pieces off of it nice.
• 2:56:48
  We still have the rat supporting everything.
• 2:56:50
  So he replaced all that. He's our fab guy.
• 2:56:52
  So he's like, did it all perfect.
• 2:56:55
  And then, yeah, dude. That's just sitting there.
• 2:56:56
  One day when I have time. Like, you know, yeah.
• 2:56:59
  When you gonna have time to mess with that, but yeah, that's just
• 2:57:01
  think it's fun. That's how we met almost it is.
• 2:57:04
  And like, the funny thing is, is I remember the ad I had these
• 2:57:07
  wheels, which I sold to my best friend.
• 2:57:09
  Chris, that works for Frankie. He, they were miserable, LM GT2,
• 2:57:15
  it wasn't really a sought-after wheel at that time.
• 2:57:18
  Like, no one was like digging for these wheels and I happened
• 2:57:21
  to buy them for 500 bucks. They were cheap for a minute,
• 2:57:24
  but the Box, And what did I see a set sail for 10 grand, Seven
• 2:57:28
  Grand, eight grand. Yeah, it's insane.
• 2:57:30
  It's and it was a good one. Yeah.
• 2:57:32
  And that Coupe, that was cold, cover your ears.
• 2:57:37
  The coupe that was taken away. From me, was on lmg to send the
• 2:57:41
  car in the? Add the picture of it.
• 2:57:44
  Oh, my was my car. Yeah, it was on lmg t2s.
• 2:57:48
  Oh, wow. But it was a stock body.
• 2:57:49
  Yeah. Well at least I have no lips.
• 2:57:51
  No, no Arrow. Nothing was a stock.
• 2:57:53
  Yes. Shark nose front.
• 2:57:55
  LG, I had nothing. I had to bring meals or some and
• 2:57:57
  I yeah, because he wasn't selling them.
• 2:57:59
  What. Yeah, and I saw that and I was
• 2:58:01
  like, this is meant to be, and that's why I was like, God damn
• 2:58:04
  it. It's so that guy had he told me
• 2:58:06
  what he had in there. So he had like a 500-horsepower
• 2:58:08
  SR20 in there with a fucking 350Z trans you're trans.
• 2:58:14
  That's wild because back then, like, that was even any crazy
• 2:58:17
  adapter kits to do. Yeah, that was the only other
• 2:58:19
  downside here. Cut.
• 2:58:21
  He got a whole He extended the whole, the shifter in there.
• 2:58:23
  So we also have that piece that we're Going to weld in nice but
• 2:58:26
  the only shop that was making that adapter kit.
• 2:58:30
  Really early on was Jim wolf. Oh okay.
• 2:58:33
  And it was an accident. What's that?
• 2:58:35
  He probably had. And what's cool is now they have
• 2:58:38
  it and not they never advertised it.
• 2:58:41
  I think it's the only way to run a CD on a srk is use an
• 2:58:46
  automatic Anvil. They cut the whole front of the
• 2:58:49
  case, you cut the whole front and Bell off of it.
• 2:58:53
  Yeah. And the Up to the bolt.
• 2:58:57
  The cover that goes on the inside.
• 2:58:58
  Yeah, take that off. They have a cover bolts towel
• 2:59:03
  and you both automatic in bail on it.
• 2:59:04
  So that's really keeps it really nice and short.
• 2:59:06
  Yeah. But here's the problem with that
• 2:59:08
  Trends. You could never run that Drano
• 2:59:09
  swings too low. Dude, it's so loaded on Italian.
• 2:59:12
  No, no. Because I have a CDO, not or,
• 2:59:15
  but to see specifically on it as chassis.
• 2:59:18
  Dude, that thing on the is it's the only thing that bangs on the
• 2:59:21
  ground. Oh, there you go.
• 2:59:22
  Because it hangs pretty low. Yeah, and that, That same
• 2:59:25
  concept design is what I'm running in my car but it's made
• 2:59:28
  by Collins. Hmm.
• 2:59:30
  And I actually want seems to be a good one.
• 2:59:32
  I went through a lot of trial and error with that.
• 2:59:35
  That's what gave me the tough skin of like whatever because I
• 2:59:39
  did the trance 15 times. Yeah, on the ground.
• 2:59:42
  Yeah, it was a fun full painful. Frankie was like I would have
• 2:59:47
  sold it. Yeah, I would have, I would have
• 2:59:49
  never done it. I would have thrown it out.
• 2:59:52
  Are you still running your own CDs?
• 2:59:54
  Just because Personally, it was like all the work you have like
• 2:59:59
  attachment now like I'm like I, you know, words I was going
• 3:00:03
  through so many things in my life at that time, a lot of
• 3:00:06
  random hardships, that weren't related to the car and I was
• 3:00:10
  able to push through it and I'm like, man, I can never take that
• 3:00:15
  out. Yeah, at least for an hour, at
• 3:00:17
  least for now he's put emotional attachment into this into arable
• 3:00:21
  experience and I dragged my buddies.
• 3:00:25
  Through that. Oh yeah.
• 3:00:26
  With me they were under their, the trans is falling down.
• 3:00:29
  That's a heavy train. Yeah, the trans is coming down
• 3:00:32
  at squishing my buddy's chest, Darrell it, my buddy Darrell is
• 3:00:34
  chested. I'm like this thing is a piece
• 3:00:37
  of shit, fuck this, but that's what it was.
• 3:00:39
  Yeah. It's a it's a plate that bolts
• 3:00:41
  onto you unbolted. Yeah over and then you slap
• 3:00:44
  this, you put a seal on and you slap it on and then Auto bell
• 3:00:48
  housing of the Jay-Z, the J2 bell, housing goes on it and
• 3:00:51
  then that's what appealed to me about it.
• 3:00:53
  Is that since the bell housing was in this, Gigantic thing.
• 3:00:56
  It's a bell housing for the car. I die idea.
• 3:00:59
  Was that it would just fit, it didn't take into account that a
• 3:01:04
  w series trans is actually let shaped like a K1.
• 3:01:08
  It tapers in a CD. 09 is a chubby, chubby translates a big
• 3:01:13
  guy. And yep, I didn't think up think
• 3:01:16
  a lot of things through and that changed the way that I build
• 3:01:18
  cars. Now, I have a z32 trans on my
• 3:01:21
  and my corner, and we did that because Basically the
• 3:01:25
  similarities between the transmission.
• 3:01:27
  Yeah. It was like the gear ratios were
• 3:01:28
  the same this. Yeah.
• 3:01:29
  I was like alright cool. So it's going to feel like and
• 3:01:32
  you know I did it. When we drifting Apple Valley,
• 3:01:34
  my transport is like okay, well I'm not going across the
• 3:01:37
  country, you might Transit gonna blow again let.
• 3:01:39
  So, what do I have to do? And that was like, the C2 C3 to.
• 3:01:42
  Yeah. That was like the solution.
• 3:01:44
  That's what everyone did. Yeah.
• 3:01:46
  And that one we use the mouse mouse works adapter which is
• 3:01:48
  also kind of cool. They modify your bell housing.
• 3:01:50
  They send it back. You take it off stuff's amazing.
• 3:01:54
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 3:01:54
  It's pretty easy. Yeah.
• 3:01:57
  Kit that they have for the CD know, it's crazy.
• 3:02:01
  Yeah them as works one and and now you got fish erasing and PMC
• 3:02:06
  and xat all make all of them. Yeah so like you said before
• 3:02:10
  it's like it's so many different companies.
• 3:02:11
  Make the stuff but it's up to the consumer.
• 3:02:12
  Yeah, you got a fairly is like really, really is.
• 3:02:15
  And the only reason why I went with Collins was because they
• 3:02:17
  had a good package. Yeah, I remember, they attracted
• 3:02:20
  me with the package. That's yeah.
• 3:02:22
  Stuff like a team or dollars or some Like that.
• 3:02:24
  We are ordering it in Frankie's office.
• 3:02:26
  Yeah, I remember we ordered and through fact.
• 3:02:28
  Yeah. And I was like, I was like Nano
• 3:02:30
  the standard standard steel drive.
• 3:02:32
  Shaft is fine. Yeah.
• 3:02:33
  And then Frankie was like, it's literally 90 bucks more to get
• 3:02:36
  an aluminum one of one. And I was like, all right, well,
• 3:02:39
  it looks like we're getting an aluminum on, and it was just
• 3:02:42
  because it was a, it was a good deal.
• 3:02:44
  It had every little thing. What was the holdup on that
• 3:02:47
  there? I wasn't going into gear and it
• 3:02:50
  has so many problems with it. Wasn't go.
• 3:02:51
  I put it up there once and then the Supplied, it uses a T56
• 3:02:55
  slave cylinder. Yeah, the supplied slave
• 3:02:58
  cylinder immediately. When I put it up there, and I
• 3:03:01
  push the clutch in it leaked and unfortunately, to replace that.
• 3:03:05
  I'm sorry. Step number one, step number one
• 3:03:08
  is. You drop the trans?
• 3:03:10
  Yeah. So then the next morning I
• 3:03:12
  remember out of pure anger and frustration, I drop that Transit
• 3:03:16
  like an hour and a half, and an hour or something like that.
• 3:03:19
  And that was my second time doing it.
• 3:03:20
  I dropped it. I put it back, still not going
• 3:03:23
  into gear. So, What has to happen again.
• 3:03:25
  I dropped the trans again. Now I'm inspecting, the clutch.
• 3:03:28
  I ordered the clutch through Collins reminded of phone calls.
• 3:03:32
  I ended up replacing the clutch with another clutch because I
• 3:03:34
  found out it was a 350Z, clutch, a standard Z, one would fit, so
• 3:03:38
  then I get a z clutch, still not going into gear now it's the
• 3:03:41
  shifter problem from Collins so then I start trying to figure
• 3:03:45
  that out and then once I figured out that the shifter was
• 3:03:48
  actually a piece of shit which I found out other people were
• 3:03:51
  running into this problem and I was pissed because I was like,
• 3:03:53
  if I Did more research, I would have answered my own questions
• 3:03:57
  and then it turns out the clutch I was using like it just that
• 3:04:01
  and then I think it was just like the combination of pressure
• 3:04:05
  plate and disc weren't agreeing together.
• 3:04:07
  And the, I mean, we've run into those problems with a 1JZ vvt-i
• 3:04:11
  with a W 58 in and the Cressida. Yeah.
• 3:04:14
  Like you had to like use different flywheels with
• 3:04:18
  different and I'm not a Toyota guy, so I'm like, I don't know.
• 3:04:21
  I wasn't at this point but then I became And they couldn't
• 3:04:26
  Nissan Trans on a second. Will ya neat?
• 3:04:28
  It's a I always think it's funny because it's Toyota engine.
• 3:04:32
  Nissan trans Chevy throwout bearing.
• 3:04:36
  What the fuck is it working now? Oh yeah.
• 3:04:40
  Oh okay. I thought you were still very
• 3:04:42
  shift your like now. Now that oh dude I think that
• 3:04:47
  was a time where I actually did cry because it was it was a
• 3:04:51
  statement to myself that like all right, You fucking got
• 3:04:54
  through the shit. Carl also has a history of
• 3:04:57
  getting rid of Aras yast and, yes, one, he's had four.
• 3:05:01
  It's only because of the fucking hardship.
• 3:05:04
  Yeah, I got 35 for what, two years. 22 years.
• 3:05:07
  And some change, which is, like, probably the longest.
• 3:05:09
  Yeah, the 24th. They would come and go because
• 3:05:11
  you were able to get them for like a grand.
• 3:05:12
  I would buy another 240 being Chris and Chris told him like
• 3:05:16
  you got to did, you got to keep a car and you got to make it
• 3:05:19
  work because it obviously we drive to know and I know I
• 3:05:21
  didn't out now. I'm like like Now when I do the
• 3:05:25
  trend now when I do the trans I'll grab like every tool that I
• 3:05:30
  need get under it and by the time I get up from there I
• 3:05:33
  literally just have to undo the header bolt and yeah pull the
• 3:05:36
  trans off because you're used to hate it so much.
• 3:05:38
  I tumble. It's like I'm like why are we
• 3:05:40
  good at this? My favorite thing I haven't done
• 3:05:42
  in a long time. It's do like a full dismantle on
• 3:05:44
  its chassis. Yeah.
• 3:05:46
  Yeah. Like how everything last night
• 3:05:47
  how fast you could because you've done just done it so many
• 3:05:52
  times. Do you ever run into a
• 3:05:53
  situation? You're like, I actually didn't
• 3:05:56
  know about this piece of this car.
• 3:05:58
  There's always something, you know, I've had that happen to me
• 3:06:01
  and you guys have had these fears.
• 3:06:02
  Here's the newest one that I came across, was the to pull a
• 3:06:10
  dash. You got to pull windshield Hmm.
• 3:06:13
  What? Like like technically because
• 3:06:16
  I've definitely done it before. I've done it too, but like to do
• 3:06:19
  it the right way, right? Way without breaking the event
• 3:06:23
  or to do it, the vents made out of, oh, because you're probably
• 3:06:28
  when there's bullets bent going this way.
• 3:06:30
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so you have to so I only
• 3:06:35
  came across this Revelation because of Revelation it's an
• 3:06:39
  epiphany, like the Revelation I have 13 If I have it here but I
• 3:06:44
  have a convertible service manual.
• 3:06:49
  Okay. It's this tall.
• 3:06:51
  Oh God, but it's super thin, it's like 20 Pages.
• 3:06:55
  Interesting and so it tells you how to re velcro the Tweed.
• 3:07:01
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 3:07:01
  And it tells you how to pull a dash because you know these
• 3:07:05
  things are there. They're garbage their coops with
• 3:07:07
  the roofs cut off their 93 coops rebranded.
• 3:07:11
  Reve Reve in 490 for Bob. Yeah.
• 3:07:15
  Yeah. It tells you to pull the
• 3:07:16
  windshield out, then pull dashboard out and I'm like, so
• 3:07:19
  that's the property. So much sense.
• 3:07:21
  Yeah. And it shows them put just, you
• 3:07:24
  know. Yeah.
• 3:07:25
  Take the vents out, take the nuts out.
• 3:07:27
  I don't like, but they still don't tell you that in 20 years,
• 3:07:32
  those events are going to be made of dust.
• 3:07:34
  Yeah you breathe on those the wrong way and they're fucking
• 3:07:37
  false corner. There's a guy making them.
• 3:07:39
  Yeah that's awesome. Thank God you're there because
• 3:07:42
  now you Just break the vents and by the way, we would take those
• 3:07:45
  out, it would be like an an archaeological dig.
• 3:07:48
  Like we would take those vents out.
• 3:07:49
  We'd be like, fuck me crispy in the car.
• 3:07:52
  Like, alright, I used to you, just you just and it would pop
• 3:07:56
  up every the dash and hopefully they pop up.
• 3:07:58
  Okay. Yeah, we did.
• 3:08:00
  I have a method but and we go through the day.
• 3:08:02
  Yeah, that's you. But it was not have a good cry.
• 3:08:05
  It was no big deal. I have a method of like, just
• 3:08:08
  you go to one side, you pop it up a little, you got an exit.
• 3:08:11
  Pop it up a little. Yeah.
• 3:08:12
  You just slowly work your way around, but it's so scary
• 3:08:16
  because you've got to get that one point where it just goes
• 3:08:18
  dealership. I used to work at the, the, the
• 3:08:22
  license plate. The temporary license.
• 3:08:23
  Plates were these, this plastic and, and we cut it out, and
• 3:08:28
  Yeah, feed it under. That's it.
• 3:08:30
  You just go. You just like, yeah, call it up.
• 3:08:34
  But Daddy, a car looks like an archaeological dig, we're like.
• 3:08:37
  And then you, and then once you get it out, if you get it on one
• 3:08:39
  piece, you're just like, oh my God.
• 3:08:41
  All right, here, here and here. Turn it and Crystal grab it and
• 3:08:44
  he'll like, what Ana car? What did it just be something
• 3:08:46
  like, did we have a stick? So if it cracked, wouldn't you
• 3:08:49
  at me? I would be like, hey I know I'm
• 3:08:51
  gonna fix it last week. We began free paint.
• 3:08:53
  Are you just take your fingers? Yeah, take out the nut.
• 3:08:57
  So yeah, like you know you're gonna replace we have a spot in
• 3:09:00
  the shop for these vents. It's literally on top of the
• 3:09:04
  worst box in the corner. I know exactly either and
• 3:09:07
  there's just three of them sitting.
• 3:09:08
  I don't know why there's so many of them but we just have a
• 3:09:10
  collection. You got it?
• 3:09:11
  Yeah. And now it's now.
• 3:09:12
  They're made by someone. But either way, I mean, the
• 3:09:14
  offal is, hopefully, he keeps making.
• 3:09:16
  I know, he needs like the stickers and stuff to finally
• 3:09:19
  see the same guy that. Yeah.
• 3:09:20
  It's all the same guy. I gotta tell you.
• 3:09:22
  This one thing I had to order new ones for that black car,
• 3:09:25
  right? Because it's all like black car.
• 3:09:26
  Here's the situation. Fuck you.
• 3:09:28
  I wanted to I wanted to make. I'm not a fan of right hand
• 3:09:31
  drive. Yeah, he driving around around
• 3:09:34
  the street. So I was like, I want to make a
• 3:09:36
  Type X left hand drive as close as I can get, like, all the
• 3:09:40
  little intricacies. Yeah, tie backs.
• 3:09:43
  So I was like, okay I need the sun sensor for the automatic
• 3:09:47
  climate control and you did put that in one of those vents
• 3:09:50
  because that's where it is. Yeah.
• 3:09:52
  It's a different that. Yeah.
• 3:09:53
  So it's in that. Yeah.
• 3:09:55
  Basically it has a hole in it for that sun sensor.
• 3:09:58
  So I had to like take those out and like So eventually one of
• 3:10:01
  them broke so I got to order I got older more found them on
• 3:10:04
  eBay was it? Someone actually has these.
• 3:10:06
  I ordered it on eBay. I get the packages all explode.
• 3:10:10
  It's just like dust. It's just you just wiggling the
• 3:10:12
  package around and Just, if it looks like a bunch of Legos or
• 3:10:15
  something in there, and I was like, all right, so that didn't
• 3:10:18
  work. And I remember I texted him a
• 3:10:19
  photo and he just sent me my money back.
• 3:10:22
  That's some shit. But yeah, and then, that guy
• 3:10:23
  started making them. But yeah, either way, I ended up
• 3:10:25
  doing it. So I got the auto climate
• 3:10:26
  control in there. I got.
• 3:10:28
  I went as far as the only thing I can figure out how to do yet.
• 3:10:31
  Is this the wiper stocks? Because they're newer style?
• 3:10:35
  Yeah, but they're don't exist for the opposite side of the
• 3:10:39
  car. Wouldn't the maximum?
• 3:10:43
  Ones. I'm pretty sure that they're not
• 3:10:45
  the same but that was as close as I could get.
• 3:10:49
  I think I don't think I actually tried it so they might because
• 3:10:53
  at that point that the early 90s, the late 90s.
• 3:10:56
  Yeah. If I could find a year before
• 3:10:59
  they transferred to the u.s. made Maxima.
• 3:11:02
  Yeah, I gotta I gotta find that out because it once I get the
• 3:11:04
  car back in the shop and work on it, that's going to be something
• 3:11:07
  I'm trying to figure out because it's like you see those stocks
• 3:11:09
  and you're like you start looking at the rest of the
• 3:11:10
  Interior like, you sit down into like A JD like a 98.
• 3:11:15
  Yeah. What a TSX.
• 3:11:16
  A, you sit down. You go.
• 3:11:18
  Oh my God. You'd be surprised.
• 3:11:20
  That's hot on the Clusters different.
• 3:11:22
  Yeah. Everybody sir I have like all
• 3:11:24
  the little things that are make it so much nicer.
• 3:11:27
  Yeah, it's like it's like this is Flintstones and this is.
• 3:11:30
  Yeah and it's the same car. It's the same car.
• 3:11:33
  So interested even went as far as like the buttons on the you
• 3:11:38
  know like the hazard. Yeah.
• 3:11:40
  Like I would I had to I had to swap locations.
• 3:11:43
  Yeah, because they didn't have their like other way.
• 3:11:46
  Not even the other way around. They had certain buttons.
• 3:11:48
  You know our defroster button. How it's like one of the small
• 3:11:51
  buttons in the middle there. Defroster button is a big one
• 3:11:53
  genocide. So I got, I think I had to get
• 3:11:57
  the JDM one and then I had to like, change the dude, the so
• 3:12:02
  stupid. Yes, awesome.
• 3:12:03
  Yeah, it's awesome to us. Yeah, but like to other people.
• 3:12:07
  So here's my question. Did you put your going to put
• 3:12:10
  180sx quarter glass? Yes, definitely, I did that on
• 3:12:14
  my car already. I'm a psycho man.
• 3:12:17
  I can't do that because it's not the right, it's just not.
• 3:12:20
  Yeah, so as of right now, I think we put stickers on it just
• 3:12:23
  because I didn't. I was like, let me just by the
• 3:12:25
  stickers anyway, but I hate that I can't.
• 3:12:28
  Yeah, I could never exclosure as I could make it to it.
• 3:12:32
  I just, yeah. It's still a 240SX.
• 3:12:34
  That's a relief. Eat.
• 3:12:35
  That's what you think. If Ethan listen to this, he's
• 3:12:37
  gonna be like, he's right, I know.
• 3:12:39
  No, I can. I can already.
• 3:12:40
  I can't do it. Yeah.
• 3:12:42
  Like, like my buddy is writing the one ESX Center cover and I'm
• 3:12:47
  like, I think I have that on my, it's nice current that yeah, I'm
• 3:12:54
  that guy. That wishes, it was a 180 left
• 3:12:56
  hand drive. I mean, that's what I'm kind of
• 3:12:58
  doing. I that's what my goal is.
• 3:12:59
  Now at the is, is like I want a left hand drive, turbo Deltas.
• 3:13:03
  Yeah, yeah, just mean that's that's just my thing.
• 3:13:05
  Like, I just, I think it's cool, but I get what you're saying.
• 3:13:08
  I'd like, Goodness with Tina. Make it left hand drive.
• 3:13:11
  That would be sick please. Yeah.
• 3:13:13
  Hi definitely sick. That's what I would like and
• 3:13:15
  then put a K in it. Okay.
• 3:13:18
  All right. Well on that note is there.
• 3:13:21
  Is there anything else that you wanted to maybe share with the
• 3:13:23
  listeners something you wanted to sell plug?
• 3:13:26
  Because if you don't plug yourself, I am pleased by more
• 3:13:29
  of Kyle's products. They're absolutely, absolutely
• 3:13:32
  amazing. Thank you and hopefully, we can
• 3:13:35
  work out a deal after this because I'm trying to sell some
• 3:13:37
  of those issues. I was like dude I need to sell
• 3:13:41
  this stuff. Meant that power steering line
• 3:13:43
  is amazing. You've literally been jerking
• 3:13:45
  off about this power steering. I'm sorry man that shit is all
• 3:13:47
  you have been alright so where can they check you out like you
• 3:13:51
  okay you have a website right? Yeah.
• 3:13:53
  Pro Shop Noble yahud our Pro Shop noble.com yeah yeah and
• 3:13:57
  then Just Instagram. Its Pro Shop Noble with
• 3:14:01
  underscores in between. Yeah.
• 3:14:03
  All the and will once we when we post this up, we'll probably
• 3:14:06
  post up the links and everything.
• 3:14:07
  Yeah. We feel like we always do.
• 3:14:09
  Yeah. I like hearing from people.
• 3:14:11
  So always feel free to hit me up about anything.
• 3:14:15
  If you building cars that are too low.
• 3:14:18
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 3:14:19
  Or just whatever are working through a project and you and me
• 3:14:26
  could you need some help? Yeah, me up.
• 3:14:30
  You know be taking in you know jobs here and there.
• 3:14:34
  Yeah. How can they find out?
• 3:14:35
  I guess I email. You just email me.
• 3:14:37
  Call me? Yeah.
• 3:14:39
  The MCM whatever is signal flare yeah, signal flare and then
• 3:14:47
  you'll see if you want to take the project on and then, yeah go
• 3:14:49
  from. I mean we but I feel like you
• 3:14:51
  got to also put some discretion that not all jobs can get
• 3:14:55
  accepted. Yeah, yeah.
• 3:14:57
  No, yeah. It's I'm sure good good good not
• 3:15:01
  doing like clutch jobs and yeah don't do a CD is job.
• 3:15:06
  But yeah I mean for sure just hit me up.
• 3:15:10
  I feel like like I mean just don't don't be shy.
• 3:15:17
  Yeah, yeah. Well you have a wealth of
• 3:15:18
  knowledge Kyle like fucking gigantic wealth of knowledge.
• 3:15:23
  No talking about. We're talking about the
• 3:15:24
  knowledge now I'm just getting what I'm going to be messaging
• 3:15:28
  you if I have Sort of absolute wild and ever.
• 3:15:31
  And I'm going to be honest. You know, me one crazy
• 3:15:33
  motherfucker who might have the answer for me.
• 3:15:36
  It could be a mild Endeavor tibia or like a hello.
• 3:15:40
  How's the state is just say hi. Yeah.
• 3:15:43
  Like I mean to me the cars and the people make the meet people
• 3:15:49
  make it so yeah I always liked hearing from people and they're
• 3:15:52
  what they're working on or like that message.
• 3:15:55
  The reason you've been pretty adamant to make sure that that's
• 3:15:58
  the message that you like to convey and and that's that's
• 3:16:02
  what I feel like we all do. Like I was telling Frankie I was
• 3:16:06
  like we haven't really attracted any douche bags or dick heads
• 3:16:09
  onto the podcast because I feel like the people we interview in
• 3:16:12
  the people, we talked to and the connections that we make, its
• 3:16:15
  people who are passionate about what they're doing.
• 3:16:17
  Well, you're approaching people in the people that you've
• 3:16:21
  approached, while you've been here are definitely like Jason.
• 3:16:26
  Yeah. Even even back home like it.
• 3:16:29
  Yeah, pretty sure I was like, that's your You're attracting
• 3:16:33
  yourself to some good P. Good good energy.
• 3:16:36
  You put it out into the world, we had, I mean, we had a we had
• 3:16:40
  some other people we want to hit up to, but like it's just too
• 3:16:42
  short of a time frame. I mean, the fact that we could
• 3:16:44
  even do this with you, and Jason was amazed.
• 3:16:46
  I because it was, so, last minute I literally said this to
• 3:16:49
  Frankie yesterday, I was like, dude, what the fuck like, I
• 3:16:55
  can't believe because this was this was my idea last July.
• 3:16:59
  I said, Frankie, let's go do a podcast.
• 3:17:02
  Would I think that we would be in California?
• 3:17:04
  A few months later doing podcasts with you and Jason and
• 3:17:08
  being able to see your facility because this is a facility now.
• 3:17:11
  Yeah, like that is, I'm forever grateful to have this
• 3:17:16
  opportunity. You're always, welcome.
• 3:17:18
  Yeah. We'll be back.
• 3:17:19
  Yeah, we are come back to California for sure.
• 3:17:21
  I'm gonna build a little car. We gotta check, we got check
• 3:17:23
  back in, see what you're doing. And yeah, yeah.
• 3:17:25
  I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be checking in.
• 3:17:26
  I'm gonna be like Kyle. Well, I sure will rise.
• 3:17:29
  We'll be in touch. Yeah, for sure.
• 3:17:31
  Yeah. Bounce.
• 3:17:32
  Questions off each other you know, like that's how I feel
• 3:17:35
  like helps the community grow as that's.
• 3:17:37
  It's not a competition anymore like it right now, it's like
• 3:17:40
  let's help each other type of deal.
• 3:17:41
  I think I think that's I think there's a healthy aspect of
• 3:17:47
  competition competition. Yeah but I think there's also
• 3:17:52
  with there needs to be a certain he sickness.
• 3:17:56
  Yeah, that makes sense work. And I think that's the I think a
• 3:18:00
  lot of people make it. It to capacity and two
• 3:18:04
  competitive. Yeah.
• 3:18:05
  Well, it tends to make a take the fun out of it.
• 3:18:10
  Sometimes it's hard to get rid of in the business aspect.
• 3:18:12
  Sometimes it's hard to hear that mentality.
• 3:18:13
  Like, like we're talking about really like, oh, he did it like
• 3:18:16
  yeah, it's hard. Like I, that was my idea like
• 3:18:20
  fuck. And then there's also negative
• 3:18:22
  about it, you know? Yeah.
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  But like you said it's like, yeah.
• 3:18:24
  Well, someone else did it. So do it better, you know, Do it
• 3:18:29
  and do it a different way. This is like, it's like what
• 3:18:33
  they say the thing was that was weird.
• 3:18:35
  So I debuted the spoiler and yeah.
• 3:18:38
  Yeah. Yes it's it's it's like a D-Max.
• 3:18:42
  Yeah. Or origin like yeah, it's like
• 3:18:45
  there's only one way to really sit it on the back of, right.
• 3:18:47
  Yeah to me like other than developing a new way for
• 3:18:51
  spoilers said, the car it's going to share some aspects to
• 3:18:54
  another. Yeah I was surprised how much
• 3:18:58
  people We're just not that they were just not into the idea of
• 3:19:02
  something new. Hmm.
• 3:19:06
  And they like vocally, let you quickly let me know interesting
• 3:19:09
  way it doesn't we're not making you buy it.
• 3:19:13
  Yeah, that's to buy it. I'm like this.
• 3:19:16
  I just I want to make a spoiler that fit and how much of a, how
• 3:19:20
  much of a fucking bummer is that it really does, right?
• 3:19:23
  It really did bum me out for like a day or so because like
• 3:19:26
  I'm literally went out of his way to message me.
• 3:19:29
  And it's tell me how this was a poor copy of a D-Max.
• 3:19:35
  First of all, it is not a copy of the D-Max.
• 3:19:38
  That's some monkeys, missing one key feature, the body line.
• 3:19:44
  You put on the top of yeah. Yeah.
• 3:19:45
  Or like that if. Yeah, anyways.
• 3:19:48
  Yeah we wanted that does happen and it's just was like it got
• 3:19:52
  under my skin for whatever reason.
• 3:19:55
  But you got to you got to like break it down.
• 3:19:56
  You got to be like, okay so this guy's messaging me, right?
• 3:19:59
  Right now about a project that he's not by.
• 3:20:01
  Yeah, and he's taking time out of his day.
• 3:20:04
  You got to be like he's shit. He's this guy's I know, but it's
• 3:20:07
  like, you should tell that to yourself, but then he like,
• 3:20:11
  what? No, that's it stops right there
• 3:20:14
  for. I'm like, Frankie's.
• 3:20:15
  Good at that. Yeah.
• 3:20:16
  See ya think? I am pretty good.
• 3:20:17
  I'm glad I've gotten better but when someone yeah, no, I get
• 3:20:22
  what you're saying. Like, I'll build my car.
• 3:20:25
  However, I want. Yeah.
• 3:20:27
  But it's just like, I guess it's just like the, I can't even wrap
• 3:20:34
  my head around someone, because you would never do that.
• 3:20:36
  Would never. Yeah, yeah, well that's the
• 3:20:38
  problem. You're a normal person and that
• 3:20:41
  person will go is a person's a demon and how he operates.
• 3:20:48
  I don't know if he's a dude, he's a good guy.
• 3:20:51
  Like yeah, man, they're they're not fortunately.
• 3:20:54
  So even when we post some things like if people are going off And
• 3:20:58
  like we've posted reels before and people will go off in the
• 3:21:02
  count. Even the Jimmy Oaks thing we put
• 3:21:04
  up, people are fighting in the comments, really?
• 3:21:06
  Yeah and we just we let it go because it Instagram likes
• 3:21:11
  people fighting. So if people are fighting will
• 3:21:14
  get more views, they really know.
• 3:21:16
  We don't, we don't entertain it. We don't like go in there and
• 3:21:19
  right intervene, but I'm just like, I'm not going to touch
• 3:21:21
  that. Let them figure it out on their
• 3:21:23
  own and they'll be arguing about the dumbest shit dude, and
• 3:21:25
  you're just like these people are at home.
• 3:21:28
  On their phones, fighting with people.
• 3:21:29
  They don't know about about someone, they don't know about
• 3:21:32
  their car that they built. I'm like, yeah, I feel bad for
• 3:21:36
  these fucking people. Sometimes I'm like that is, you
• 3:21:39
  know, I mean. So that's what I owe you.
• 3:21:41
  If I get to that point in thinking about it, usually,
• 3:21:44
  usually my point, usually my thought processes.
• 3:21:47
  Oh, that guy's a dick and I just keep going.
• 3:21:49
  Yes, that's the only thing you do in this.
• 3:21:51
  It's just weird. Like up all the think of all the
• 3:21:53
  things, like a lot, takes a lot normally to get under my skin.
• 3:21:58
  I think but that just, I don't know what it was.
• 3:22:00
  I was, you know, what? Also could be he could have been
• 3:22:03
  trying to make something. Maybe he made something, I don't
• 3:22:06
  know. But yeah.
• 3:22:07
  It was just weird that that, that that resonate, but then
• 3:22:10
  it's like the thing and then like, I don't know, people go
• 3:22:13
  out of their way to. Yeah, a lot of them really?
• 3:22:15
  Yeah, lame stuff. We've been lucky, man.
• 3:22:18
  I don't know how we've been. I was just telling Frank again.
• 3:22:20
  I was telling Frankie earlier I was like because we were talking
• 3:22:22
  about people talk shit on each other and I was like wonder when
• 3:22:25
  that day is going to come for us.
• 3:22:27
  Yeah I mean why is that kid? It's so fucking annoying.
• 3:22:29
  Now, don't get me wrong. People have said shit before,
• 3:22:31
  yeah, but I'm pretty fucking good at like walking around it
• 3:22:35
  or trying to figure something out.
• 3:22:36
  Like, I remember someone complained about, oh, we were
• 3:22:39
  like, oh, we sell coochie power hoods now, almost ship them.
• 3:22:42
  Direct from Japan. Yeah.
• 3:22:43
  And someone's like, complaining about the price or something.
• 3:22:46
  Yeah. But then not offering an
• 3:22:48
  alternative and Alternate, right?
• 3:22:50
  And I actually entertained the troll for once and I said, like,
• 3:22:55
  I respond. I didn't get mad or anything I
• 3:22:57
  staid affair. Facts.
• 3:22:59
  And then, he kept going and I was like, okay, now it's time to
• 3:23:02
  stop, stop because he's not making sense.
• 3:23:04
  And I'm not here to make him look like an idiot.
• 3:23:06
  I'm I'm trying to sell something.
• 3:23:09
  He's not happy with how I'm trying to sell it.
• 3:23:12
  That's on him. That's yeah, that's fine.
• 3:23:13
  That's his prerogative. Yeah.
• 3:23:15
  So it's like, you got to pick it.
• 3:23:17
  You can pick and choose your battles.
• 3:23:18
  Yeah, but yeah, it happens. And oh, yeah, that's part of the
• 3:23:22
  community, which sucks. But hopefully, like, more people
• 3:23:25
  doing shit like this, you know, podcast and people can hear
• 3:23:27
  long-form conversations where You know, now maybe that guy
• 3:23:30
  will hear this shit and he'll be like, wow, dude, I'm kind of a
• 3:23:34
  dick, you know. Like we could buy don't care.
• 3:23:36
  Yeah, but I'm just saying like it could happen.
• 3:23:38
  I think? Yeah.
• 3:23:40
  It's it's just a, it's a definitely an interesting, you
• 3:23:45
  know, when you really stuff into that.
• 3:23:48
  Yeah, that realm. Yeah like because, you know, you
• 3:23:52
  surround yourself with professionals and like-minded
• 3:23:55
  people and he sometimes you put stuff out there and you don't,
• 3:23:57
  you forget that there's it's like some people that are just
• 3:24:00
  like Preachers. Yeah they just slightly just
• 3:24:06
  not. Yeah they're coming out from the
• 3:24:07
  oven. Yeah and they're just there to
• 3:24:09
  fuck your day up. Yeah.
• 3:24:13
  Now that's. That is what it is.
• 3:24:14
  But like I said I mean well you have to and you have to come out
• 3:24:18
  with the confidence. I mean we were talking about
• 3:24:20
  YouTube. Yeah dude I had to give up like
• 3:24:22
  the whole like you know, I don't know.
• 3:24:24
  I'm not comfortable with my appearance or I don't know
• 3:24:26
  people people are going to say this and that and it's like you
• 3:24:29
  have to give that up when you when you do.
• 3:24:31
  Ooh YouTube because I admire so much people that put themselves
• 3:24:36
  out on YouTube and I don't I don't read shit.
• 3:24:39
  I'm like Malcolm posted I don't check his videos I'm but he
• 3:24:42
  probably makes me look like an idiot.
• 3:24:43
  Like honestly. Yeah he does.
• 3:24:45
  He does he does me right? I don't know.
• 3:24:48
  But I'm saying like you know I have to put my trust in him it's
• 3:24:51
  like I'm going to use Frankie's as an example because I feel
• 3:24:54
  like since I guess you don't really have a crazy like YouTube
• 3:24:59
  presence, right? Eye.
• 3:25:01
  I think that people will appreciate actually know, people
• 3:25:05
  will people appreciate more nowadays when they can see more
• 3:25:08
  about the there's more to that person.
• 3:25:11
  Yes, yeah. Is a person they're behind.
• 3:25:14
  This isn't, that's 100% true. Like why?
• 3:25:17
  Because when they started, when Frank Malcolm started, posting
• 3:25:19
  Frankie everyone was like, We Love Frankie.
• 3:25:22
  I didn't know this guy can talk. Yeah, and everyone would always
• 3:25:25
  tell me that they're like, oh, you have to be a face and I was
• 3:25:27
  never a face. I was just like running the
• 3:25:30
  Instagram present. And stuff and I was like I don't
• 3:25:33
  I don't like doing that shit. I don't like Vlogs.
• 3:25:35
  I don't like, I barely like talking on campus like to work
• 3:25:37
  now it's pretty normal. You know, we're pretty good at
• 3:25:39
  it, but because it's, because I'm just myself now, I'm just,
• 3:25:43
  like, I know he starts filming me and I'm just going to talk
• 3:25:46
  how I talk. And if someone has a problem
• 3:25:48
  with it, they don't have to watch it.
• 3:25:50
  You know, that's the only way you can do it.
• 3:25:51
  So and and I started watching other YouTubers specifically
• 3:25:56
  motorcycle because I'm in the motorcycles too.
• 3:25:58
  So I would go to another realm and watch how they did it.
• 3:26:00
  Yeah. And I'd be like, oh this I
• 3:26:02
  relate to this dude, like he's just out here.
• 3:26:04
  Yeah, free ball. And just like saying, whatever
• 3:26:07
  and people resonated with it, they like what?
• 3:26:09
  Yeah, I was like, all right. I can do that.
• 3:26:11
  Fuck it. Hmm.
• 3:26:12
  So like, but like he's saying having a face to a company
• 3:26:16
  definitely helps. Yeah, did help us what's
• 3:26:19
  interesting is when I decided that I was going to really
• 3:26:23
  pursue like Instagram. Yeah.
• 3:26:25
  Is I around here or what? I noticed on Instagram was
• 3:26:31
  People. They were putting too much of
• 3:26:36
  their personal into their business, boasting about what
• 3:26:40
  they're eating and what they're doing.
• 3:26:42
  Yeah, that's that type of stuff or like, you know, where they're
• 3:26:47
  at or what, all this stuff. So, I went to extreme and I just
• 3:26:52
  cut myself, you went to the extreme opposite of what we're
• 3:26:54
  talking about, right? Okay, so it's like I'm now are,
• 3:26:58
  I've been trying to reel myself Into.
• 3:27:01
  Yeah, you definitely want to go to that extreme.
• 3:27:03
  That's where I was at. And yeah, I think at the
• 3:27:05
  beginning it worked really well because as I watched other
• 3:27:09
  people bury themselves. Yeah.
• 3:27:11
  And to stupidity or you doing stupid stuff for getting into a
• 3:27:15
  fight with simple. I just, I talked long and kept
• 3:27:18
  my Post. Yeah, clean and simple.
• 3:27:21
  And well, I will say, like, the products are selling the
• 3:27:23
  Japanese Trinkets and stuff. Yeah, those will go very far in
• 3:27:27
  Instagram to, yeah, I think that's what's been working as
• 3:27:29
  well. That's what, that's The only
• 3:27:31
  thing that's been pulling. Yeah, is that?
• 3:27:33
  So now I'm need to I think I like, you know, adding a face.
• 3:27:39
  Like you said, you got to find that file.
• 3:27:41
  Are you find what you're comfortable with?
• 3:27:43
  And then and I want to, I want to be involved with the people
• 3:27:47
  in the community because I have isolated myself so much.
• 3:27:50
  Yeah. And just focusing on the
• 3:27:52
  business. Well, this is a good first step.
• 3:27:54
  Yeah, this is this is it? This is yeah, I was gonna say
• 3:27:58
  like have Done anything like this but ever.
• 3:28:02
  And and tomorrow I did I did a podcast with someone but I don't
• 3:28:07
  think he ever did. Oh my God, I hate that.
• 3:28:10
  It was I was waiting for. Yeah.
• 3:28:13
  Yeah, I think it came out for me.
• 3:28:15
  That means a lot to me personally because I there are
• 3:28:20
  times where I'm a people person and there are some times where I
• 3:28:22
  do appreciate to be by myself, but for you to open up and be
• 3:28:27
  able to give us this opportunity to pick your brain and shoot the
• 3:28:30
  shit for a few hours. Yeah man.
• 3:28:33
  That alone takes a lot of confidence.
• 3:28:34
  There's that there is a camera. Right, there we go.
• 3:28:37
  I you try definitely. Did you take it?
• 3:28:40
  Technically did YouTube. That's a humongous Steppin and I
• 3:28:44
  wanted I hate filming people for YouTube like when we were doing
• 3:28:47
  the ship before. I was like, I fucking hate doing
• 3:28:49
  this shit because I know like, I know, I think I do want to say
• 3:28:53
  that, it means a lot to me that. Yeah, I'm well, I'm glad we're
• 3:28:56
  here. I'm taking your time to come out
• 3:28:58
  this way. I know your time is valuable
• 3:28:59
  here. So it means a lot man.
• 3:29:01
  Do you have no idea what this means to us?
• 3:29:03
  Yeah, no, it's equally as valuable to us.
• 3:29:05
  We're happy to help. I mean, I can't believe we can
• 3:29:08
  say that now, but we people listen to this shit, so I hope
• 3:29:11
  we're helping. Yeah.
• 3:29:12
  Dude, we this is purely a passion thing right now.
• 3:29:15
  We don't make any money on these.
• 3:29:17
  Yeah, so we do this for ourselves and and like I like
• 3:29:21
  going to different shops, like what we did in California, this
• 3:29:24
  is unparalleled Kind of what we wanted to do with this whole
• 3:29:27
  time because it's like, yeah, we're kind of we want to help
• 3:29:30
  you guys but we're also helping ourselves because now everyone
• 3:29:32
  that wants to hear about you is going to listen to our podcast.
• 3:29:36
  Hmm. So now we get your, we get your
• 3:29:38
  followers and you get some of ours though.
• 3:29:40
  It's like we try to do at the library collaborate.
• 3:29:42
  We're here for the growth of the community.
• 3:29:44
  Not a downfall of it. Thank you so much.
• 3:29:47
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