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5-25-26 Hour 3 - Brett's Fantasy Pretend World/No answers to Avs issues/How responsible is Bednar? · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: maybe a little pantagy. Well, not even panic, because their
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  Speaker 2: job is to maintain chill, but you can tell, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Okay, back to the red line.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone has to get out five seconds ago. In Game two,
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  Speaker 4: rimmed all the way through and against the odds, Vegas
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  Speaker 4: comes into Denver and wins both games to take a
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  Speaker 4: too nothing series lead.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, folks, folks, folks, please calm down. We have decided
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  Speaker 5: not to land in the ocean.
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  Speaker 5: We have spoken with our control tower and apparently the
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  Speaker 5: force of these wins are just gonna end up ripping
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  Speaker 5: the plane into different poors.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, before we land land us God towards on that
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  Speaker 4: that missus McKinnon love save Heart and he'll hang on.
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  Speaker 2: The game is over night.
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  Speaker 4: You don't want to remember in Vegas the Avalanche a
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  Speaker 4: free nothing lead. In the first Vegas scores five straight
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  Speaker 4: goals to win five to three and take a three
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  Speaker 4: nothing series lead with a chance to sweep the Avalanche
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  Speaker 4: Tuesday night.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, so just make sure all of your atoms are
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  Speaker 5: neatly stowed beneath you, just in case the plane does
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  Speaker 5: ripping half. You will have your atoms with you on
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  Speaker 5: your half.
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  Speaker 3: All right, So there's something I want to I want
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  Speaker 3: to get to know what.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, Man, my analogy was correct.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was. But they're panicking now.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, I don't know what that clip sounds like.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably an SNL clip. I'm guessing that's what back
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  Speaker 2: in the day. It's really funny, but I'm not in
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  Speaker 2: a laughing mood, you know. Incidentally, I'm sitting here doing
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  Speaker 2: this show. I'm looking out my window here in Vegas.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen the same motorcycle cop pull like four people
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  Speaker 2: over so far this morning. I've heard it just got it,
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  Speaker 2: just got it, just got another one right over here,
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  Speaker 2: big time. These guy's just nailing people left and right.
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  Speaker 3: Before we uh, I want to discuss some things that
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  Speaker 3: we've talked about in a different way today, and we'll
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  Speaker 3: get to that in just a second, but reminder that
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  Speaker 3: our hearts go out to Vic and the Lombardi family
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  Speaker 3: as he lost his dad over the weekend, and his
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  Speaker 3: dad being one of the greatest, coolest human beings you
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  Speaker 3: could possibly imagine. He came to this country with nothing
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  Speaker 3: and Vic kind of sent this out yesterday on social media,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, a couple of bucks in his pocket,
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  Speaker 3: a sixth grade education, and turned that into not just
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  Speaker 3: the accomplishment of the American dream, but raising an unbelievable
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  Speaker 3: family and everything else that has come along with Vic
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  Speaker 3: and his brothers and sister and family overall, and what
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  Speaker 3: they've done here, it's nothing short of remarkable. And he
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  Speaker 3: is one of the most admirable human beings I think
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  Speaker 3: you could think of. And in the last four years
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  Speaker 3: he was dealing with dementia, which is just terrible. But
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  Speaker 3: hearts and thoughts and prayers and everything go out to
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  Speaker 3: Vic and his family because Easy was truly one of one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was one of one. That's a damn truth.
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  Speaker 2: Yesterday in the airport because I got to Vegas a
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  Speaker 2: little bit later than everybody else did. Man, I just
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  Speaker 2: sabbed like a little baby. And you know, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know why. I guess because I just I really admired Easier.
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  Speaker 2: You know. Obviously Vic is a very good friend of
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  Speaker 2: ours and has been for an awfully long time. But
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  Speaker 2: that family, Keeter, let me trying to explain to you
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  Speaker 2: how that family I was. I opened Facebook, and Ezio's
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  Speaker 2: cousin Ferdinando, who still lives in Italy, has been awesome
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  Speaker 2: to me. In fact, last time I was there, he goes,
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  Speaker 2: don't tell Vic. So I got to the village before
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  Speaker 2: Vic did, and this is like its last year. And
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  Speaker 2: he he goes, don't look, don't look. I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm in the car. So he then he jumps in
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  Speaker 2: and we drive up to the top of the mountain
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  Speaker 2: and he opens up his trunk and he's got a
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  Speaker 2: set of golf clubs and a giant bucket of balls,
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  Speaker 2: and he had just gotten kind of you know, he's
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  Speaker 2: been golfing regularly. He goes, let's he goes, let's hit
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  Speaker 2: some balls. I'm like, Okay, great, we are bombing balls
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  Speaker 2: over this mountain in Italy. Dude, it's a bit of
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  Speaker 2: mowed down cow pasture. But my point is that I
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  Speaker 2: guess all this comes together because of of Easio, right,
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  Speaker 2: because you know, all these people that all these wonderful
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  Speaker 2: people that have gotten to know in Italy and beyond
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  Speaker 2: and interact with over the years, and and it's all
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  Speaker 2: because of him. Man, He's just he was the cathitalyst
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  Speaker 2: and I'm so glad he's in a better place. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm just so devastated for the Lombardi family because he's
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  Speaker 2: you know, he's the patriarch and yep, such a good
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  Speaker 2: grandfather and such a good father. It's just it's just
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  Speaker 2: it's just really hard on the all the siblings. It's
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  Speaker 2: just it's just sad. But but he's in a happier,
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  Speaker 2: better place because that dementia brett last thing brutal. It's
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  Speaker 2: just one of the that nals or maybe the two
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  Speaker 2: cruelest things you could possibly deal with. It's just it's
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  Speaker 2: just cruel, cruel.
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  Speaker 3: So our thoughts go out to the Lombardi family, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: with the news from over the weekend, now to the
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  Speaker 3: av side, of things. Just let me talk about the
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  Speaker 3: impossible for a moment, because we have. If you've listened
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  Speaker 3: to the show for more than five minutes today, it's
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  Speaker 3: been look appropriately dour, all right. I could not have
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  Speaker 3: envisioned oh three to start this series. I'm flabbergasted at
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  Speaker 3: the result of this. But may I just bring something up.
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  Speaker 3: This is not a I think this is going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: I think there is virtually no shot of it happening.
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  Speaker 3: How many times Moje has a team come back from
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  Speaker 3: down O three in the Stanley Cup playoffs and one.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's well in a West Final. I can't remember
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  Speaker 2: the last time it happened. The La Kings did it
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  Speaker 2: on their way to winning a Stanley Cup years ago.
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  Speaker 2: But it's very very very rare, very.
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  Speaker 3: So just a quick search here. As of May twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty six, only four NHL teams in history have come
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  Speaker 3: back from down three to zero in a series in
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  Speaker 3: a best of seven. In the Stanley Cup playoffs nineteen
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  Speaker 3: forty two in the Stanley Cup Final, the Leafs came
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  Speaker 3: back from down three to zero to beat the Red Wings.
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  Speaker 3: That was forty two. Pittsburgh do it to Philly in
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  Speaker 3: seventy five the quarterfinal, the Islanders did it over the Penguins.
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  Speaker 3: In twenty ten the Eastern Semifinals, the Flyers over the Bruins.
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  Speaker 2: And then that's what it was. It was Philly over Boston.
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  Speaker 2: I remember that series.
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  Speaker 3: And then in twenty fourteen it was the Kings over
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  Speaker 3: the Sharks in the first round.
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  Speaker 2: So there you go.
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  Speaker 3: Just for impossibility's sake, the Avs have won four straight
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  Speaker 3: games six different times this year seven if you include
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  Speaker 3: the final three regular season games heading into the postseason.
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  Speaker 3: They've done it once in these playoffs in the first round.
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  Speaker 3: Is they beat the Kings in the suite? They've done it.
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  Speaker 3: They have the talent to do it. The question here
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  Speaker 3: is how much. And this is what I'm curious about,
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  Speaker 3: not that this is going to matter moving forward. If
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  Speaker 3: you come back and you win this or you lose
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  Speaker 3: this series in four games and five games and six games,
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  Speaker 3: hell and seven games. The only thing I think that
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  Speaker 3: really change anything is if they came back and one,
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  Speaker 3: which is you know, a virtual impossibility. But I am
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  Speaker 3: curious to see how tomorrow's gonna go. What kind of
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  Speaker 3: response are they gonna have. Are they gonna lay down
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  Speaker 3: and die? And just be like, you know what we
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  Speaker 3: blew it? Or is there gonna be a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of fight? And what kind of blew me away? In
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  Speaker 3: Game three was they showed the fight in the first
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  Speaker 3: period about a good period of hockey as they've played
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  Speaker 3: the entire postseason, and then just squandered it all away
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  Speaker 3: in the next forty minutes. But how do you respond?
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  Speaker 3: What do you do? And That's what I'm curious about.
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  Speaker 3: They've done it again six different times this regular season.
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  Speaker 3: The AFS have won four straight games minimum. Now some
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  Speaker 3: of those are more than that. Mos. They had like
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  Speaker 3: a seven to eight game win streak. In their six
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  Speaker 3: game win streak whatever. Now it hasn't come in the playoffs,
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  Speaker 3: and it hasn't come against Vegas alone. But just saying
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  Speaker 3: it's it's hot.
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  Speaker 2: Seed two, there's two. There's two scenarios. Okay, let me
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  Speaker 2: I'm mos. You know I I love this hockey club.
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  Speaker 2: I've worked for this hockey club for thirty years. About
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  Speaker 2: there are two scenarios that are playing out in my
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  Speaker 2: head right now. Number one is to get on board
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  Speaker 2: with you? Yeah right, yeah, because I mean going negative,
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  Speaker 2: what what is that accomplished? I mean, you may be
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  Speaker 2: a realist. But people choose to just be pissy and negative.
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  Speaker 2: They choose that or number two, the is to head
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  Speaker 2: to McCarran Airport, fly back to Denver, and punch you
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  Speaker 2: right in the face. Yeah for even for even bringing
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  Speaker 2: it up that you're you're just being an ass. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going with option B, which is flying back to Denver
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  Speaker 2: and punching and spraying your mouth.
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  Speaker 3: But look, you want to discuss all possibilities here, and
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  Speaker 3: I told.
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  Speaker 2: You I don't. From now on, we're going full TARNASKI.
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  Speaker 2: I'm bringing my own rhino. You know what, you know
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  Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. I'm bringing my own giraffe. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you know what it's for. Can I ask you?
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  Speaker 2: Let me do it? Wait?
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  Speaker 3: Wait, let me do it in a different way. Please please,
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  Speaker 3: Sorry to cut you off, but let me just do
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  Speaker 3: it in a different way. If the Avs win tomorrow,
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  Speaker 3: do you think they can come back and win?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 3: If the Avs win tomorrow and in game five, do
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  Speaker 3: you think they can come back and win? No? If
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  Speaker 3: the As win tomorrow and in game five and in
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  Speaker 3: game six, do you think that they can.
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  Speaker 2: Win more more than I would have? I mean that's
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  Speaker 2: what it would take.
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  Speaker 3: It would like if you push it to seven, then
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  Speaker 3: you can finally get me back around to the idea
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  Speaker 3: of maybe.
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  Speaker 2: But it's funny.
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  Speaker 3: We got a text earlier and he said, boys, it's
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  Speaker 3: the first time since the season started this morning that
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  Speaker 3: I didn't think the As were winning the Cup. And
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  Speaker 3: that's exactly how I felt, even when they were down
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  Speaker 3: two mos, I'm like, all they need to do is
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  Speaker 3: get my car back in the lineup and get it.
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  Speaker 2: But I said it. I said it on Friday. I said,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, even if I was, I was very
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  Speaker 2: confident they were going to win Game two, Bro, I
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  Speaker 2: was very confident. And again they have a one nothing lead.
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  Speaker 2: This is where the series you can point to say,
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  Speaker 2: this is where the series is lost. They've got a
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  Speaker 2: one nothing lead all the way until the midway point
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  Speaker 2: of the third period. And again this what they tie
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  Speaker 2: the game on you. It's only a goal. Don't give
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  Speaker 2: up two. And they did that hurdle, that hurdle shot
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  Speaker 2: kind of a seeing eye top shelf, the go ahead goal.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not that you gave up those two goals.
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  Speaker 2: It's that you didn't add after Colton scored in the first,
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  Speaker 2: you never added onto it, which is very unavalanched, like
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  Speaker 2: you never ever pushed it up even more. And because
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  Speaker 2: you didn't, and that's again that's where it's lost. Not
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  Speaker 2: because you gave up those two goals in the third
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  Speaker 2: and then the empty net are screw that. It's not that.
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  Speaker 2: It's because you didn't. You weren't up three nothing. That's
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  Speaker 2: why you lose that game, in my opinion, And so
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  Speaker 2: it's just it it's incredibly hard. Yeah, I mean it's
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  Speaker 2: just really hard. I thought, even down two to oh,
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  Speaker 2: this team can still come back. In fact that last night,
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  Speaker 2: after the first part, I'm like, if they win this game,
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  Speaker 2: I think they can win. This series's gone. Then Val
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  Speaker 2: left and then Brett, when I tell you, I rarely
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  Speaker 2: do you see McKinnon show pain, and he didn't really
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  Speaker 2: try to show it at all. There was hardly any
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  Speaker 2: wincing after. It's that he couldn't get up this movement.
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  Speaker 2: He can't move, Brett, he can't he couldn't move. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: did he get over there and and and playing some
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  Speaker 2: power play? Yeah, but he can't move and therefore he
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  Speaker 2: can't be effective. And I'm guessing this is just my
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  Speaker 2: guessing over the years of watching this stuff. He woke
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  Speaker 2: up today and probably couldn't bend his leg at all,
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  Speaker 2: probably couldn't even bend his damn leg. And so it's
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  Speaker 2: been compounded now because now I did you lose, but
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  Speaker 2: now you're dealing with all these guys who are certainly
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  Speaker 2: not themselves whatsoever. Two of the best players on the
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  Speaker 2: planet to start with, and then we can go from there.
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  Speaker 3: Game three of the Eastern Conference Final between Montreal and
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  Speaker 3: after that, oh, I made a mistake. It made a mistake.
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  Speaker 3: It's a big, big problem. Spent that commercial break and
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  Speaker 3: went out to get some water hydrate, know as you
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  Speaker 3: can turn your music off, thank you. And I made
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  Speaker 3: the mistake of getting water, and I said, Raj, come here,
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  Speaker 3: and then I started talking Raj. And now I'm like
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  Speaker 3: back to being mad again. I haven't stopped being mad.
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  Speaker 3: But it's just I talked to him about a few
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  Speaker 3: things and I'm even more fired up. I just I can't.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you where the frustration lies. I have a
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  Speaker 3: long standing theory on this, and it's it applies to life,
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  Speaker 3: not just sports. But it happens in sports a lot.
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  Speaker 2: That's great Bret Kane's philosophy on life. Can't wait about this,
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  Speaker 2: Read a frigging book and freakin sell it. Wait did
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  Speaker 2: I say that out loud? Hey you did.
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  Speaker 3: Frustration comes in many forms, but there is a frustration
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  Speaker 3: that's deep. And maybe it's just me, but this is
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  Speaker 3: what happens to me when I can't figure out why
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  Speaker 3: something's happening the way it is. That's the worst because
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  Speaker 3: I can't find the solution to a problem if I
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  Speaker 3: can't recognize what the specific problem is. And so a
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  Speaker 3: lot of times most this happens where you know, I
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  Speaker 3: have two young children now, and so you get these
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  Speaker 3: things that are ordered and you got to set them
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  Speaker 3: up yourself. And a lot of these instructions now moj
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  Speaker 3: are just pictures of things and they don't have actual
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  Speaker 3: directions on it. It's just like snap click, snap click,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, what am I snapping? And what am
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  Speaker 3: I clicking into place? I don't know how to set
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  Speaker 3: this thing up, So I get really frustrated because I
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  Speaker 3: can't figure out the solution if I don't know the problem.
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  Speaker 3: And when it comes to the Avs, God does that apply?
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  Speaker 3: What is the problem? You could say the problem is, well,
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  Speaker 3: the top players aren't playing like top players. Why Why
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  Speaker 3: is brock Nelson not producing again? Why is Marty Nahus
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  Speaker 3: not putting the puck in the back of the net.
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  Speaker 3: Why is Brock missing the net entirely when he's got
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  Speaker 3: a clean look at the goalie. Why is val only
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  Speaker 3: got four points through twelve playoff games. Why does it
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  Speaker 3: look like the best line on the ice for you
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  Speaker 3: is one with fourth liners on it. Why is Scott
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  Speaker 3: Edgewood not producing at the level that he did all
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  Speaker 3: regular season? Why?
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  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 3: Why? And I don't have the answer. I don't have it.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what's pissing me off. Because when you can
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  Speaker 3: get to a point where you look at a team
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  Speaker 3: across from you who is beating you and you just say,
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  Speaker 3: I know why because they're better than I am. That's easy.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's stomachable. It's acceptable because then you have to identify, well,
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  Speaker 3: why are they better when we need to be better?
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  Speaker 3: Here here, here, here, here. In the case of the Avs,
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  Speaker 3: I still look at them. I would put them, and
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  Speaker 3: I know this pisses people off. I don't care on
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  Speaker 3: paper against anybody else in the league, anyone. And you're
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  Speaker 3: down zero three, and it looks like you've lost fight,
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  Speaker 3: and it looks like you can't get anything sustained over
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  Speaker 3: at least consistently. Forget sixty minutes. Mos, can you give
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  Speaker 3: me forty five to fifty? Can you give me? No,
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  Speaker 3: you can't, and I don't have the answer.
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  Speaker 2: Let me go back to Game two. I think it's
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  Speaker 2: whistling by the graveyard stuff. But until that third period,
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  Speaker 2: midway through the third period, they played a pretty rock
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  Speaker 2: steady type of game. Broyeh. Again, you're talking about it's
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  Speaker 2: only a one nothing lead, so you've got a one
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  Speaker 2: goal lead, but you have a lead, and you protected
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  Speaker 2: that lead. You did pretty damn good, and then you
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  Speaker 2: gotta break down, dude scores to tie it. Okay, Then
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  Speaker 2: uncharacteristically you break down again. You let them put you
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  Speaker 2: on your heels where you don't get put on your heels.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: If you're the Colorado Avalanche, you do the heel putting
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: on it, right, Yeah, you do the heel putting on it.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I went back during the break and I watched a
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: video from VIC from May twelfth, and it was him
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: basically saying that's a professional win by a professional hockey club.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: And he could not have been more correct. So the
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: question is been back to your whys. Why are they
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: so affected by a goal like the power play goal
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: last night? Why are they affected at the beginning of
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: the second period. Why are they affected by that goal
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: so much so that now you give up two more
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: And it's not just that you're affected by that goal
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: and you give up two more, but then they make
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: it three to two, and then you still have your
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: own opportunities. Nelly off the bar and up. Yeah, power play,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: power play, you couldn't. You couldn't get that fourth goal,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: which would have changed everything. And that's how the Stanley
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Cup playoffs work, and that's especially how the Western Conference
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: playoff works. The margin for error at this point is very,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: very very thin, and when you're put on your heels,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: but it affects your entire game, the offensive side as
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: well as the defensive side, even for short spans, Brett,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: that costs you games. That costs you, SERI, that costs
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: you seasons. Everybody knows it, and I'm not I'm not
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: saying anything right now that Jerry Bednar wouldn't be saying
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: to your face if he was sitting right there.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Well, uh, somebody writes in Brett, if you can't see
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: why Vegas is better at playoff hockey than I can't help.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: You, well, then explain it to me.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Geniuses, the the Vegas Golden Knights do what specifically better
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: than the Aves. I mean, outside of the simple thing,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: which is just executing I mean they've done that. They opportunities.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: They don't get rattled, Brett, I'll tell you, And I
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: guess rattled seems like such a negative word.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: But most hang on, hang on, sorry, just let me
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: get this out, because sure, sure rattled. Okay, fine. People
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: want to say it's a style of plaything, Well, the
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: apps can't adjust to the style. I just watched them
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: beat the hell out of La playing a slow, plotting
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: nothing style for four straight games. They played that style perfectly,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: they executed it perfectly. They get into a series against Minnesota.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Now it's a little bit more wide open, free flowing,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: faster pace, more goals. They played that and they won
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: in five games. That's the whole point to this team. Stylistically,
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: they were able to match up with people to a
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: high level. But when I watched last night, I don't
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: care if they're playing a slow style, cycling in the zone, whatever,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. It just it doesn't make sense. It
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: doesn't make sense. And that's why I go to I
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: think it's more of a mental thing. It has to be.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Bro It's okay when your mentals are off kilter, just
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: by a smidge, your mentals. Okay, after they scored that
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: power play goal last night, what did it feel like
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: happened with the Abs and their mentals?
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: A total deflation?
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Okay? And it was that much, right, even if if
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: it's that much, now, I'm not talking about that much.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about let's say that much. Their mentals affected
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: their structure. Yeah, their mentals affected their connectivity. God, I
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: mean Ben Nor laid it out after the before the
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: second round, dude, and he was so right. So many
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: things have to go correctly overall for you to win
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: a series. Now you can you can, you know, win
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: a game or whatever. But to win a series, you've
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: just got to be you got to have the edge
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: over the opposition period for the for the more majority
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: of the time, where it's fifty one to forty nine whatever. Yeah,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: and right now they're losing that battle. And when their
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: mentals get affected this much, it affects their structure and
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: their connectivity this much. And that's the difference in the
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: nine minute span. And that's it.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: The issue is that isn't fixable by somebody like that's
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: not but a coach can't help you with that. A
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: teammate can't help you with that. That's inside yourself. And
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: what sucks is, man Nellie, why are we even here today?
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: You should have just read if you could, Nelly, instead
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: of me coming in tomorrow and previewing Game four and
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: me and moj how about you do this. Go back
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: a month, grab the shows that we did for the
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Nuggets during the Timberwolve series and just insert Vegas Knights
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: and Colorado Avalanche when you find Minnesota Timberwolves and Denver
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Nuggets and we can just run the same show. Because
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: it feels like that's what I'm doing anyway. It's it's
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: not about schematically It's not about it. It's not about
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: game plan. It's about do you got it upstairs or not.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Vegas scored a power play goal to start the second period,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: So the hell, what you're up to? Goals?
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, you're up to.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: You dominated twenty straight minutes, you're forty seconds into the period.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. But for whatever reason, it felt like
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: the entire game shifted there and you saw it. You
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: felt it as a fan watching. That's what is so frustrating.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Well, its just it didn't feel like it. Did it?
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Did it? Did happen? Some of yourself happened.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Have some mental makeup where it's like this, You're fine.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Do I sound stupid? I probably sound stupid.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Whatever. You don't sound stupid, Brett, You sound I think correct.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: But I I'm trying to reiterate to you into the
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: listening audience and that those people who have been with
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: us every step of the way, and we thank you
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: very very much. It's about the margins, bro, Yeah, the
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: margins in a Western Conference final are so thin. I
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: mean they're so thin. And again, let's say your mentals
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: are off that much, Brett, it affects that nine minutes Okay, Yeah,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: then then then you're lacking confidence. If you're brought Nelson
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: right now, you're probably lacking confidence because, damn it, he's
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: skating hard, he's trying hard, he's doing all these things.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: He's winning face offs, he's you know, he's he's cracking
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: guys in the corner. He's doing all this stuff. The
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: puck won't go in for him. Dude made a save.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I remember back to game one. Dude made a save
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: on that little backhand flick Bye bye Nelson on the
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: dude's glove, I mean, and and and it's in his glove,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: and you're like, he's really really so when he's cruising
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: in last night on Carter Hart, I'm sure he's pressing
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: a little bit. He wants to win. He's he's trying hard,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: and he just it's just tak you know. And then
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: that power play, same thing. You're you're moving it around.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: You got a couple of really good redirects. Dude made
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: a couple of big saves, and it just starts to
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: build and compound, and that's where the mentals start to
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: get off kilter even a little bit more. And Manson
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: gets smashed at the blue line there is no all
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: you lost your guy and they threw one to the
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: front of the frigin net.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Do you know what's crazy? Mos you even had puck
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: luck in that game?
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I mean you you get Vegas's.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Goal called back, which to me, I I don't I
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: thought that was gonna be called a good goal. I mean,
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: I couldn't see if it hit the hand. It was
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: all about the agreed. It's all about the call on
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: the ice. Agreed, all about the call on the ice, agreed, agreed, agreed.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: All I'm saying is if that happened to the ABS,
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: I would have been pissed off that that wasn't a goal.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: That's one thing. Okay, so that gets called back, You're
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: still up two to nothing, and then what happens right afterwards?
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: You get a shorty from Druri to go up like,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: not only did they get the goal called back, you
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: immediately bury one going the other way. All momentums there
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: that that that arena, out of all arenas in the league,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: motion is dead, silent, like pin drop silent.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: After that, I told Lee last night, I'm like, wow,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: this place is really quiet. I mean it it got
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm in the stands with peeps, it got
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: really quiet.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: It's like that all the makings of you just taken
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: that game by the coons and just dominating. And then
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: it just I do know this, I do know this.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know about our I don't know about our side.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: I do know this. After the first period there was
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: raging out of the Vegas room, raging. Oh yeah, and
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: and and rightfully so, because they were down three to
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: nothing and they were blowing it on their whole ice.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: But momentum, confidence, vibe is a It's a real thing. Bro.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Now people say, well, momentum doesn't exist. No me. You
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: can call it what you want. Maybe it's not momentum,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: but it's definitely vibe. It definitely is vibe. And when
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: you got the vibe, it's hard to kill. And when
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: you lose the vibe, it's hard to get back.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: You know what's crazy, It's funny you mentioned that much,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: because I do feel like that is a separator of
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: for if you're part of the crowd that doesn't believe
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: that momentum is a thing. I don't know how else
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: to describe it other than like you, if you played
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: sports at an expanded level, you know, high school, if
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: you fortunate enough to play in college. Beyond that, whatever,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: If you don't think momentum is real, then I just
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: don't think you've been in it before. Because momentum is
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: just it's a euphemism for confidence, and when things start
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: to turn, your confidence wanes and you can feel it.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: It is a tangible, real thing that as an athlete
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: you feel in the midst of a game. You feel
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: it to the positive, you feel it to the negative.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: It's not just some sort of coincidence that if somebody
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: in the NBA most buries a three and then four
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: more dudes bury it on possessions after that, It's not
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: just you know, it can be I guess.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: A.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Circumstantial thing. But it's real, tangible confidence throughout a team.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Oh this guy, don't see it, don't don't we say
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: that it gets contagious.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: For sure, it sounds like it's it's silly, hokey, hocus
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: pocus Harry Mett Potter. Nonsense, it's not. It's a real thing.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: And you know what, missing gets contagious. And it's not
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: like the ass people people. Somebody texted in earlier said
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: you said the abs were not lazy. I saw a
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: very lazy team, and I'm like, I elected not to
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: respond to it at the time. What you're not seeing
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: is lazy. What you're seeing is hesitation. Yeah, I mean
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: it's it's and again, the margins are so thin that
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: if you second guess your own decision making, even for
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Brett a quarter of a second. I don't know how
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: to tell you other than the fact that it matters. Okay,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: it's not You're not, They're not. Nobody's been lazy. There's
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: slight hesitancy at times that bleeds into different scenarios and
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: you and that affects. I mean, it's just it's I
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: don't know how else I can put it. And I
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: hope that people are understanding what I'm trying to say.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of people who are po today, disappointed.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Whatever emotions you're feeling, I get it. I'm right there
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: with you because I I just of all the scenarios,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: this is the one that I did not see even
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: remotely happening.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Here's Bednar on what changed after the first period.
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: Everything Yeah, verse nine minutes. It was like kind of
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: looked like portions of Game one for me. In parts
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: of Game two where we were mismanaging the pocket breakouts,
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: and then like they just got more competitive, and we
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: didn't stay with that intensity for me for nine minutes
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: and you know, a little bit of communication and some talk,
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: and you know, we just didn't dig in and match
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: their intensity the start of the second quick enough for me.
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: It was nine minutes those two goals pretty much an onslaught.
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: And then after they scored the second goal, we had
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: the TV timeout and things kind of started to change
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: a little bit for us. We got the power play,
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: we got a couple Nelson chances in on the rush
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: in more zone time, and you know, and then they
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: just chipped away at that one goal lead and ended
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: up winning the hockey game.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: That's it. I mean, I guess he simplified things there,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: but he ain't wrong. He ain't wrong. Somebody texted and
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: this is Katie, and she said, you guys already talk
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: about the two on one with Kelly and Drury last
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: night and I did not. We have not talked about
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: that yet. Well, you got a chance to make it,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Ford phen You come in on a two on one
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: and Parker wants to do the right thing. He wants
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: to draw the defenseman and let Jack shoot. But in
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: that instance, Drury thinks that Parker's going to shoot, and
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: so then what becomes a two on one you get
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: nothing out of it, not even a shot on goal.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: It becomes it becomes a fizzled play. And that's where
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: that again, that is you mean, there's that that And
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not blaming these guys. I'm just saying it's that
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: one indecisive situation. Yep. That because if it's a four
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: nothing game, then that's a six to two Avalanche win, period,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: end of story. But that's how it goes, Bratt, Well,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: you know what, I'm tired of saying that's how it goes.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: But that's how it goes.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: You can in that specific situation, you can live with
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: not scoring. You can't live with not getting a puck
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: on net.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: That's it. In not not the Western Conference Final, you can't. Hey,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: if you're in, if you're in you know, wherever you're
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: in Seattle on December sixth, Okay, yeah, you can even
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: get away with not getting a shot on goal in
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: the Western Conference Final against a team that is eventually
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: flipping out to get back in the game and then
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: take a stranglehold on the series. He can't do it
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: when in doubt.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: The default should always be shoot the puck, always, always,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: always always. You can join Andy Linda All on Altitude
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio at Ryan House on fourteenth the Market tomorrow
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: night as the Abs look to stay alive in the
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Western Conference Final. Nate Andandy broadcasting live starting at three.
• 33:26
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• 33:29
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• 33:38
  Speaker 2: You want to make yourself feel better, please go visit
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Nate and Andy at Ryanhouse tomorrow. Yeah, and star at
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Nate and or scary. Sorry, stare at Andy's face for
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: about twenty minutes.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: It'll make it better.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Go then go. You know what, that's not my face
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: in your whole dayble brighton.
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: Know man, Andy's face is looking pretty good these days
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: with those rocky mounts.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Know what it is? Let me let me, let me
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: take that back. So I'm doing the show with the boys.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: I'm up on on ball point or whatever they call that,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: you know, last week, and he's looking good, Nate's looking
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: They're looking good.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: What do they call him sexy. Does he call him
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: sexy Andy or something like that, sexy or skinny Andy
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: or something.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Boys are looking good, man, go visit them tomorrow. Have
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: a Bruski with him, you know, yeah, go see him
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: sing songs that remind him of the bet of times.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Sing songs that remind of the good times.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Ryan House at fourteenth and Market tomorrow. Starting at what I.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Got, it's been. It's been a rough weekend, man, I
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: got nothing else.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Fact checker next. All right, as we close things out today,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: it's weird like most We've got another game tomorrow. The
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: series is not over.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: It is not.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: It just feels like it is, just has that feel
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: to it.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: So here's something, Well, it's it's it's bread. The task
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: at hand you can't pretend even if you want to pretend,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: you can't. Right, yeah, you can't pretend. It's the task
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: at hand is so herculean as to not be not
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: be fathomable.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Well, if you want a a dose of opium, I
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: got it this from our boss, Kevin. There are twenty
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: three different four games spans in the regular season in
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: postseason when the Avs have won all four games twenty
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: three different instances this year do with that information.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: What you want me, yeah, let me, But let me
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: explain too, because I'm gonna be This is me being
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: a realist. If the Avs did that, if they did
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: what Kevin is suggesting him in his keywords of the day,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: let us if that did happen, If it did happen,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: If it did happen, it will go down in the
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: history of the sport, especially with what they're dealing with. Now,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: when you saw Nate not even able to get up
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: val left gone cale you saw him, it would go
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: down in the history of the sport as one of
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: the if not the greatest comeback of all time in
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: a series. Sure, okay, Now we have the Music City Miracle.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: We have all different kinds of stuff that's happened in
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: the world of sports. You know, teams rallying from nine
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: down in the bottom of the ninth and win, blah
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: blah blah. But this is this is the first round series, Yeah,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: this is this is this is this is Yeah, this
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: isn't the first round either. This is the West Final,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: bro and that that's that's just the scenario laid out
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: in front of you. Now you can choose to accept
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: it or not accept it. It's up to you. But
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: that's them's the facts right there.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Uh three oh three five, And before we're done here today,
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: I know we talked about our good friend Vic and
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  Speaker 3: his family and the loss of of Easy over the.
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  Speaker 2: Weekend, which is yeah, bright with dementia. In many ways,
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  Speaker 2: it's so good that that human is finally free from
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: the just cruel and brutal nature of that disease. Peace,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: because it's so cruel and so brutal to everyone involved,
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  Speaker 2: because it becomes a different person, and it's just horrific
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: at the same time, losing a guy like that. I mean,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know how I can even put it to you.
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  Speaker 2: You talk about a salt of the Earth person like
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: salt of the earth human beings, the kind of person
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: that makes this planet livable at times. You know, everything
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  Speaker 2: good about this planet and what the American dream stands
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  Speaker 2: for was easier Lombardi. So to have that person no
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: longer in your life and they're real Easy, I know,
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  Speaker 2: hasn't been for for some time now, it's devastating. It's
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: devastating to us as a friggin species. Yeah, because just
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  Speaker 2: such a good dude. And you know, I know people
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: have messaged in and Vick will be back at some point,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: you know he will. He's a worker, he's a Lombardi,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: gets his ass out there and he kicks ass. But
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: but you'll be able to share your thoughts and offer
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: condolences to him then. And I appreciate the people who
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: have who have chimed in. He hasn't seen any of those,
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  Speaker 2: but he will eventually. And thank you for being a
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  Speaker 2: part of this every single day. And you know you
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  Speaker 2: got to know easy through Vic and that that was
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: a good thing as far as I'm concerned. Yep.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: And our hearts go out to everybody in the Lombardi
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: family with the news from over the weekend. So just
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: a couple of things here as we close out the show.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of people are asking, why aren't we criticizing Bednarmal.
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  Speaker 3: I think we have. We have criticized coaching. I like
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: I said, there is a pie chart on this of
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  Speaker 3: who's at fault, and I think that coaching is a
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  Speaker 3: part of it. My question is what exactly is it?
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  Speaker 3: Do you think that you would do differently as a coach?
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  Speaker 3: Bear made adjustments. He moved nat just down to the
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  Speaker 3: second line. He switched up personnel on the power play.
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  Speaker 3: There's a number of things that they did to try
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  Speaker 3: and I guess provide a spark. Yeah, I don't. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know how much more the coaching staff overall can
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  Speaker 3: do to have Brock Nelson show up in the postseason.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Much more the coaching staff can do to have Nathan
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: McKinnon put a goal on the board through three games,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like, I don't what exactly
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  Speaker 3: is it that you're criticizing, because to me.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what happens.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, motion is one last thing. To me, what happens
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: is a lot of times people just point to, well,
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: the team's losing, fire the coach that fixes stuff, and
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: that's not always the answer. I'm not even saying that
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  Speaker 3: that that shouldn't be up for discussion or anything like that.
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  Speaker 3: I think everything should be up for discussion if they
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: do go on to lose this series, especially if they
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: lose tomorrow. But I'm just asking what differently would you do?
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  Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, I'm gonna try to lay it out for
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: you too, because I've been in this game an awfully
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: long time, right, a long time, and I've seen it
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  Speaker 2: here in Colorado. Don't have seen it around the league
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  Speaker 2: a billion times. Shelf Live for coaches in the NHL
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: is not very long. Yeah, and yeah, messages can get lost,
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  Speaker 2: you know. I think that things get lost in translation eventually,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: or you quote stop listening, whatever the case may be.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Here's what I do know. I think John Cooper as
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: much as we give him the business. You know, the
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Lightning have lost in the first round for
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: four straight years. Do you know that after they lost
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: the Cup to the Abs, they've lost in the first
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: round four consecutive seasons.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know what you think about how good
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: the Lightning roster is. I think it's pretty damn good.
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  Speaker 2: Ain't firing Cooper? If John Cooper got got in Tampa,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: he would be out of a job for literally thirty seconds.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: And the same story applies to Jared Bednar. Now you
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: can say, you know, whatever you say about him, and
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: whatever you have opinion you may have about this series
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: or this you know, West find or whatever, but he
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: would be out of a job for twenty eight seconds.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: You know. I mean, these are these would be very
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: desirable coaches for teams to have. Now that's not to
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: say that they're not infallible because they're human beings. Everybody
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: can be infallible at some point. But you're right, Brett
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: on the pie chart. And when you really break it down,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: this is now, this is what the management has to
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  Speaker 2: do is determined exactly. You know what needs to be fixed,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: where it went wrong? What is lost in translation amongst
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: players themselves? Is it you know a little bit of
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: luck bad luck? I mean, all these things play in
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: and in a situation like this, you can nitpick so
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: many damn things, but be real about it. And these
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: are big decisions to be made. See, they have to
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: be thorough well.
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  Speaker 3: And this applies to anything. It's the same thing that
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: I said when it came to David Adelman and the
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: Nuggets back when the Nuggets got bounced and everybody said
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: and get a fire Adalman, and I go, can you
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: give me a reason? Outside you're just saying fire the
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: coach because you think that that's some sort of fix
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: all there is there something that you think that this
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: coach isn't doing that he should be that would make
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: a difference. And all I'm saying is I think, if
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: we're doing the pie chart, do coaches deserve blame? Do
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  Speaker 3: they have a slice of that pie. Absolutely they do.
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  Speaker 3: But I always, first, no matter what, go to the
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: players and I say, what is the main thrust in
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: winning and losing? It's guys producing and when you have
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: the top end of your rostrum. We kind of went
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: through it earlier. You know, when you talk about the
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: guys who have shown up in this series specifically, or
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: if you want to go entire postseason, how many people
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: would you say have played at or above expectation level
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: in the top six And the answer is not a lot.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: And that's a problem because it's one thing with Jack
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Drury and Parker Kelly and Logan O'Connor and guys like
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: that are playing their asses off. That's the depth, that's
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: the pieces at the very end that helped push you through.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: But if you don't get the main thrust from your
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: top guys.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Then it's gonna be all for not.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: So a lot more to discuss with this tomorrow as
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: we head into Game four of AVS in Vegas. Fact Checker,
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• 44:51
  Speaker 2: A couple things, A couple things real quick, Nellie, can
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: you say something real quick? Yeah? Please? Do you know
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: John Tortorola has this club cooking right now? Right? Is
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: it torchs or is it the guys inside that room
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: for Vegas? I mean, what is it a little bit
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: of both? How How does that pie chart figure out?
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Here's what I do know. Tortorella was in Philly for
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: three years and then got got Rick Talkeett came in
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: and took that team to the postseason right away. Yeah,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: does that mean torts is not a good coach? And
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: talk at some genius? I mean there are, there are,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: There are so many factors that go into it. You
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: have to you have to take that under consideration. We'll
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: just be knee jerk about things. That's all I'm saying.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, and Nelly, go ahead.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Steve, I'm sorry, No, it's okay.
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: That's that's a good point. First of all, earlier, Moser,
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: you said that in their franchise history, the Avalanche have
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: never been swept in a playoff round, and unfortunately, one
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: of our texts pointed out they got swept in the
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: second round by the Detroit Red Wings in two thousand
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: and eight.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: That's yeah, they did. I've bought that one completely out. Yes,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: that's what I meant. Yeah. Also, that was not a
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: team that was going anywhere in a way, trust me.
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  Speaker 2: But I've blocked that completely out of my life.
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: Well, and then here's here is a silver lining for you.
• 46:05
  Speaker 6: If the Avalanche do lose Game four and complete the sweep,
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: then that means there will be no Game five back
• 46:12
  Speaker 6: here in Denver, meaning we will not have any tickets
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: to give away, So there will be no more keywords motion.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: You're one for the enemy in this world.
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: There's gonna be no lettuce, there's gonna be no arugula,
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: there's gonna be no Rachelle Sherbert winning tickets for you.
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: So maybe it's rude for the suite.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but let me yeah, let me tell you about
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: little Sherbet. Now, let me tell you about part of
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: me was just fascinated the way that Kevin Shockey's brain
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: works to come up with these things. Part of me,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: part of me wants to continue in perpetuity just because
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: it's freaky wow. And then part of me brent that
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: that series. Johnny Lyle scored one of the only goals
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: for the EVS in that damn series against Detroit. But
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: that was the Johann Franzen series. Hey Dom aircraft carrier
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: that just parked himself in front of the net and
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: never moved. God, he scored like eight goals. It just sucked.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: That's what I meant. iTunes, Spotify Mosa Lombardi in cancer.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: You can find the podcast. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: I have a great Memorial Day. Love you see it.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: The job is down. You can go home now