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ALCS Game 7 preview w/Joe Girardi & Ben Nicholson-Smith, Shohei Ohtani’s Greatest Game Ever · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good day. We do love a
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  Speaker 1: game seven real quick before we get it figure out.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out my lock of the day
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  Speaker 2: because it's really hard when there's only one bet or
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  Speaker 2: one game to bet on Crawd.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm sorry, I apologize.
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  Speaker 1: Guess what we're about to have that for the next
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  Speaker 1: four to seven game.
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  Speaker 3: I know, but it makes it really tough.
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: It does? It does? I'm with you. We'll do that later.
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  Speaker 1: AJ will figure his out in the meantime, real quick
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: before we start. Did you guys know that it's the
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and fiftieth season of MLB. I've seen that
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  Speaker 1: in multiple articles over the weekend. I hadn't seen it
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  Speaker 1: anywhere else. I read a lot a lot of baseball.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it anywhere. So I'm wondering why I
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  Speaker 1: hadn't seen it until now. Kratz, had you seen that?
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  Speaker 3: Not once? Not until you texted it.
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  Speaker 4: It's crazy like it that'd be something I remember when
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  Speaker 4: it was one twenty five and you got your Louisville
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  Speaker 4: bats and each Louisville had like this massive one twenty five,
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  Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty five years like stamp on the bat, like,
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was pretty cool one fifty. Why is
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  Speaker 4: it not being celebrated? What are we trying to what
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  Speaker 4: are we trying to avoid?
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  Speaker 5: Wait?
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  Speaker 4: Were you playing in two thousand? No, we got we
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  Speaker 4: got bats. We got bats from I forget what it was,
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  Speaker 4: but I wasn't in pro ball yet, but it was
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  Speaker 4: like the coolest bat. I was like, oh man, I
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  Speaker 4: need to have I need to have these kind of bats.
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  Speaker 3: If I get drafted.
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  Speaker 4: Well I didn't get drafted till two thousand and two.
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  Speaker 3: No, that's weird because I remember this.
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  Speaker 4: They might have a bat from two thousand, but I
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  Speaker 4: thought it was Louisville's hundred and twenty fifth years when
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  Speaker 4: they put the big one twenty five on it, that's
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  Speaker 4: who you Well, maybe it might have been. I thought
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  Speaker 4: it was Louisville had the big one twenty five thing.
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  Speaker 4: That was what it was because I used to be
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  Speaker 4: I thought it said I thought it said I had
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  Speaker 4: the Louisville Well whatever, who cares? But anyways, I'm just
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  Speaker 4: happy from this weekend I didn't have to get a tattoo.
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  Speaker 1: Other than that, everything, we're gonna make sure we have
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  Speaker 1: time for that. I want to I want to get
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  Speaker 1: a few minutes on that that whole storyline, since we
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  Speaker 1: didn't really get to it last week. And also I'm
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  Speaker 1: already gonna not correct myself, but it looks like MLB
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  Speaker 1: celebrated one fifty and twenty nineteen, but they said eighteen
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  Speaker 1: seventy six was the first season, and that is one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty years ago. There's nuance in here. I'm
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  Speaker 1: in like a rabbit hole with online AI right now
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  Speaker 1: looking all of this stuff up for me, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: getting confused, so I'm gonna.
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  Speaker 2: Drop it smart.
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  Speaker 1: They started counting too much for me, so I'm out
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  Speaker 1: of it. But I did see it in multiple articles,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, one hundred and fifty years of baseball.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they were rounding a little bit. Maybe not, don't
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  Speaker 1: care anymore. Let's talk about Game seven, charging about we
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  Speaker 1: are charging the mound. We're presented by Lids. They'll be
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  Speaker 1: a number on the screen that you'll see later and
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  Speaker 1: if you text it, you'll get a nice discount over
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  Speaker 1: at Lid's ALCS Game seven preview. We did about twenty
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  Speaker 1: five minutes of a postgame show after Game six. AJ
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  Speaker 1: and I watching that one and commenting on it. So
• 3:16
  Speaker 1: Kratz get me ready for Game seven? What do you
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  Speaker 1: think you've got Shane Bieber matching up with George Kirby.
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  Speaker 1: Bieber looked good last time around. George Kirby is a
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  Speaker 1: very good picture. He did not look good last time around.
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  Speaker 1: What are your expectations for this one and how would
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  Speaker 1: you manage it?
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  Speaker 4: I would manage it that I have two really good
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  Speaker 4: pictures on the mound, But I would manage it with
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  Speaker 4: my eyes and I wouldn't manage it with the predisposed
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  Speaker 4: idea of, oh, yeah, you know, any kind of trouble
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  Speaker 4: in the second inning, I'm taking George Kirby out. It
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  Speaker 4: feels like the manager roles have kind of flipped where
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  Speaker 4: it's like John Schneider was the one who had the
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  Speaker 4: quick trigger, and now all of a sudden, John Schneider's like,
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  Speaker 4: I trust this guy. I trust this guy to get
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  Speaker 4: out of this gym. And Dan Wilson's the one that's like,
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  Speaker 4: I trust this guy. Wait no, I'm gonna get him.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go get it. Wait no, he get up
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  Speaker 4: that many runs like it just feels like it feels
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  Speaker 4: like he's.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of reversed a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: And so that's why I have no idea what's gonna
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  Speaker 4: happen tonight, but I don't see another stinker from George Kirby.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like good pictures like this step up. I
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  Speaker 4: feel like Shane Bieber is also gonna have a great game.
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  Speaker 4: I don't feel like it's gonna be high scoring, so
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  Speaker 4: that means it's gonna be thirteen to twelve.
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  Speaker 3: And also here here's here's here's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Josh Schider has to be give his starter as
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  Speaker 4: more leeway because his bullpen is worse than the Mariners bullpen.
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  Speaker 5: That's why.
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  Speaker 2: Because Dan Wilson's like, I got all these dudes I
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  Speaker 2: can run to for any plus Bizardo Brash Spire Munios
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  Speaker 2: Munos hasn't pitched in three days.
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  Speaker 3: He might go four innings tonight, and he has given
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  Speaker 3: up a hit like all postseason or what. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I know he has, but it's like crazy, but he's
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  Speaker 4: done this postseason, so I mean he might run him
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  Speaker 4: out there for four innings if he can.
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  Speaker 2: It's I don't think Kirby's out there long enough unless
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  Speaker 2: he's just even if he I bet you he went
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  Speaker 2: five no hit, perfect innings, they'd probably take him out
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  Speaker 2: of the game.
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  Speaker 1: And also if there's traffic, there's.
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  Speaker 3: Any traffic, they're gonna get him out right away. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: the whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it used to be Shiner, but now Shiner's hand
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  Speaker 2: is forced because his bullpen's not as good as.
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  Speaker 3: That's the one.
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  Speaker 4: That's the one thing I didn't like from last night,
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  Speaker 4: Jeff Hoffman getting two innings of work.
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  Speaker 1: You wanted one.
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  Speaker 3: Or none. I mean, I know, but.
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  Speaker 1: You got to win the game. Now, that's like a
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  Speaker 1: postseason save situation when you're up four.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm not I'm not disagreeing with you on the
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  Speaker 4: one inning. I'm definitely saying did not want him out
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  Speaker 4: there for two innings. I'm taking back to the sixteen
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  Speaker 4: World Series where Joe Madden got like a five or
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  Speaker 4: six run lead in Game six and he ran Chapman
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  Speaker 4: back out there for his second enming. Obviously Chapman was
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  Speaker 4: gonna he came in the eighth, and then e Raaldus
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  Speaker 4: Chapman came back out in the ninth to finish the game,
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  Speaker 4: but the game was kind of out of hand, and
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  Speaker 4: then they brought him out again in Game seven, and
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  Speaker 4: people were like, Oh, there's no such thing as tired. Okay,
• 6:15
  Speaker 4: maybe you're not tired because you're running on adrenaline, but
• 6:19
  Speaker 4: the boys are seeing you a little bit more.
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  Speaker 3: More.
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  Speaker 4: Guys saw Jeff Hoffman last night, and I just I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Like that part.
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  Speaker 4: For I would say there's a slam dunk win for
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  Speaker 4: the Jays if it wasn't for that, because I think
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  Speaker 4: Hoffman's going to be out there for five six batters. Again,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, we'll see George Carby really struggles on
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  Speaker 4: the road. I know that, and well a lot of
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  Speaker 4: time starters struggle on the road.
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  Speaker 2: So the only guy that really has pitched really well
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  Speaker 2: for the Mariners has been Bryce Miller, and this whole
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  Speaker 2: series is a starter.
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  Speaker 3: The rest of the starters have got pretty much bombed.
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  Speaker 1: So Bryce, my pitch, Why aren't you starting him?
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  Speaker 3: Yes it's on two days, right, but still.
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  Speaker 1: But he can pitch an any or two wo Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: It'll be.
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  Speaker 4: Interesting to see how Wu, if Wu pitches, how he
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  Speaker 4: does because he hasn't pitched. He hadn't pitched for a while,
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  Speaker 4: and he threw out of the bullpen and now he's
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  Speaker 4: gonna have to get up after a couple of days.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't think It's going to be interesting
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  Speaker 2: to me how they how these guys because they have
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  Speaker 2: starters at their disposal, how both managers decided to deploy
• 7:18
  Speaker 2: is will we see Chris Bassett, Well, we see Max Schurzer.
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  Speaker 3: What we see anyone not named Logan Gilbert for the Mariners?
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  Speaker 3: I mean they can bring them all in.
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  Speaker 1: They can, and the Blue Jays can do this too.
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  Speaker 1: They can get crafty. Chris Bassett, Max Schurzer. Here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: You're in a game seven and being battle tested does help.
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  Speaker 1: You've got some gritty vets on the Blue Jays. We
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  Speaker 1: might be able to pick up three six nine outs
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  Speaker 1: for you to help a mediocre bullpen. Those guys might help.
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  Speaker 3: Agreed, Well, last time actually had the bullpen in a
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  Speaker 3: playoff game. It didn't go.
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  Speaker 1: Good, true, but he looked good the other day.
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  Speaker 3: I agree, Listen, he'll do it. He wants to do it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Would you use those guys?
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  Speaker 3: I try to stay away from them if I could.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I wouldn't go into it and say I wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: go into it and say, hey, we have to use
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  Speaker 4: Chris Bassett, we have to use Max Sures, we have
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  Speaker 4: to use you know, whoever, Luis Castillo, we have to
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  Speaker 4: use Bryce Miller, we have to use Brian Wu. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I'd play it off the game, how the game is
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  Speaker 4: going and we're winning, we have a lead, Like, let's
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  Speaker 4: just go with my guys that are used to holding
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  Speaker 4: down a lead for me. I don't need to just
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  Speaker 4: just because they're like I feel like sometimes managers get
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  Speaker 4: to a point where they're like, well, I have all
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  Speaker 4: these weapons at my disposal, I just have to use
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  Speaker 4: them just because they're there, Like, you don't.
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  Speaker 3: Have to use them. I mean if I goes fifteen
• 8:31
  Speaker 3: innings like Game five did in the DS, and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you might have to use them, but other than that,
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  Speaker 3: you don't have to use them.
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  Speaker 1: the starter. Now you got to eat the rest of
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: the game, and you're trailing, and you're just like, here
• 10:00
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• 10:03
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  Speaker 4: This is where this is where knowing the links really
• 10:08
  Speaker 4: will give you an idea of who they would bring in.
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  Speaker 4: Like let's say team goes down three nothing, and now
• 10:14
  Speaker 4: you got the bottom of the lineup. You are looking
• 10:18
  Speaker 4: to shut you know, shut down the bottom of the
• 10:20
  Speaker 4: lineup with probably not your top end guys. And then
• 10:25
  Speaker 4: as soon as that top of the top of the
• 10:27
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• 10:30
  Speaker 4: And then you you know, if you have a window
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  Speaker 4: there where you're gonna put in somebody like you talk
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  Speaker 4: about Bassett or Sures or if they're available, or how
• 10:36
  Speaker 4: they're feeling about it, then again that bottom of the
• 10:39
  Speaker 4: order and then back to the top again, you're not
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  Speaker 4: gonna have. You're not gonna have Bassett face cal Rawley,
• 10:46
  Speaker 4: You're not gonna have if they're down, you're gonna have.
• 10:48
  Speaker 4: You're gonna have the top guys. You're gonna have Louis Varlin,
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  Speaker 4: who's pitched all the time, face all those guys. So
• 10:55
  Speaker 4: it's how many times through do you have four top
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  Speaker 4: guys to go through the order and you're always facing
• 11:02
  Speaker 4: that heart of the heart of the.
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: Order every day, Louis, should you pitch to Vladdie at all?
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: Should Gladdie see anything?
• 11:11
  Speaker 4: I couldn't find it, but that one was going to
• 11:13
  Speaker 4: be my lock of the day and I couldn't find
• 11:14
  Speaker 4: it on the.
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  Speaker 1: On the one walk? Well why would you put that
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  Speaker 1: up there?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, but I mean that was
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: I was. That's what I was. When we came on,
• 11:22
  Speaker 3: I was like, where is the one walk? Well?
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: How about this over under? Vladdie walks tonight one and
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: a half over all? Right, okay, well here's my.
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: Question about walk plus hit by pitch oh last night.
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: I know he was pissed too.
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well should you see he should be?
• 11:43
  Speaker 4: Did you see the postgame comments by George Kirby? The
• 11:48
  Speaker 4: question was how do you how do you face Vladimir Guerrero?
• 11:52
  Speaker 4: And normally it's like, well, he's a good hitter. You know,
• 11:54
  Speaker 4: we'll do this that. He's like, you gotta get inside.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know about you a j but game seven,
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: some guys you're like, I don't, I don't. I don't
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  Speaker 4: throw inside because you don't really need to. He's always
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  Speaker 4: off the plate. To me, if they don't move Laddie's
• 12:10
  Speaker 4: feet because I don't feel like he's his Even.
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: When he got hit yesterday, he just turned him.
• 12:15
  Speaker 4: He was just like that. His feet haven't moved. If
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  Speaker 4: the Mariners aren't gonna walk, laddie, you got to move
• 12:22
  Speaker 4: his feet. You might get up and in on him,
• 12:26
  Speaker 4: but if he stays balanced, it's not to me. It's
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  Speaker 4: not enough. You gotta make his feet move. You gotta
• 12:31
  Speaker 4: make him uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 2: How you're gonna move his feet. Let's unless you throw
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  Speaker 2: out him. Because he it's all right, he's for the Mariners.
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: He's not facing he's not facing game spire. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if he is, there's a big lead or they're a
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  Speaker 2: big deficit, and they're probably putting him on at that point.
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  Speaker 3: So I mean, who's gonna who's gonna You.
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: Know, Kirby throws that four seamer up, he's not gonna
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: run him one in on his and he looks comfortable,
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: he looks I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean, they try to go in. Guys don't know how
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  Speaker 3: to pitch, and so I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what they're gonna do with them, but
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: I know there's gonna be at least one time where
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  Speaker 4: they put them on. It has to be if if
• 13:06
  Speaker 4: Lucas in Springer get on, they have to because Kirk
• 13:09
  Speaker 4: has been.
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  Speaker 3: Kirk's on the struggle bus right now, man, I.
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: Would say any spots besides what base is empty?
• 13:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, even then if you don't want to give up
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  Speaker 4: that run. But Kirk has been on the struggle bus.
• 13:19
  Speaker 4: He has he hasn't hit.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, anything you're worried about.
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: Yesterday he had that four. He had that just like
• 13:27
  Speaker 4: three foot foul ball off the wall. I think I
• 13:31
  Speaker 4: think Dalton Varshow if there's two, if there's a guy
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: from either side, I think Dalton Varshow at some point
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: becomes a huge part of this game for the Jays.
• 13:41
  Speaker 4: And I think and I think like a Polanco or
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: cam Zone become some type of big part for the
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  Speaker 4: Maritters for either if whoever's gonna win, because you just
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: can't let the other guys beat you. That's it. It
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: sounds sounds, sounds remedial, but that's that's where this game seven.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: Is Andy And the chat said Ernie Clement is the
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: most dangerous hitter in the ALCS. I just wanted to
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: say his name too. He's been one of my favorites
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: to watch. I like his game, swinging at most things,
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: making contact that most things. I mean he's hitting what
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: for something or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: In the playoffs.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he is. I like him. And someone we had
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: on recently said he's the one they think of, like
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: the quote no namers that broke out this year that
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: actually has some good lasting power.
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think is going to stay around.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: No, stay around. Yes, but he thinks like Clement could
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: really blossom in the league, right.
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, they don't really have that many guys that
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: nobody's heard about if you've ever watched baseball. I mean
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: they got a lot of other guys. I mean other
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: than Barser and Clement, who else that no one knows about?
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: Lucas Yeah, I mean those guys all this year really,
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  Speaker 1: I mean.
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  Speaker 4: Springer, Kirk, Vladdie, shit, Andre Simenez has been around for
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: a minute.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they got some dudes. Var Show has been around
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  Speaker 3: for a while. It's not like these these are just
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: out of nowhere guys.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: No, It's like it's like four role play that have
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: really emerged now and made them a more complete lineup
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: those guys that we're talking about. Anyway, we'll talk much
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: more about the ALCS. Let's take a quickie break and
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: swing back with Joe Girardi coming up, But first text
• 15:12
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• 15:16
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• 15:26
  Speaker 1: what would you have done instead of Hoffman for two
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: innings there? And also what did you think of Brandon
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Little in the game the game before that in that
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: spot instead of Hoffman? And how they said, oh, Hoffman
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: gives a homer, so we wanted to avoid him there.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: But he's also your relief face even though as AJ
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: and I talked about yesterday, he's not like a top
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: ten fifteen closer in baseball, but he's the best that
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: they have and he does get swing and miss.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: That's what makes me question them using them for two
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: innings last night is they didn't when they had Little
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: in there, and then they used him last night for
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: two innings. Do they not see him as the way
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: that we see him, like we're just talking about him,
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: like I get it. He's not like the shutdown closer
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: even when he was last year before the postseason, he
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: was ridiculous, like he was going months without giving anything up,
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: So maybe they don't see him as that guy that
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: you're like, hey, we're going shut down closer, because maybe
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: they don't trust him. Maybe they don't trust his that
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: spot there, I don't know. But who would I have used.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: I don't remember who all was left? Still, I would
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: have tried to find because it was six two six
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: two in the eighth, yes, but nobody was on or
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: was there one runner on? I'm forgetting the situation in
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: the eighth when when he came.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: In, and I remember if there was traffic, I don't.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Remember either, so I can't say and.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: Clean Oh yeah, did he start the eighth? So that's
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: where else, that's where our surprise. He started the eighth
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: with a four run lead.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: But I get it.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Hey, Joe Jerriardy's on Found Territory, Joe, great time you're on.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Good to see you. How you been?
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, great to see you. How have you guys been?
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Damn well? We're holding up?
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah right?
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: You enjoying the postseason? You know?
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: I am? You know it has it went exactly according
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: to plan I thought Seattle, I mean I thought their
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: pitching would fare better than it's had. I'm actually surprised
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: that it's gotten back to this, but there've been exciting
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: games and it's kind of neat for me to watch
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: uh Toronto because a Dulton barshow Gary Barshaw was my
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: first roommate in the big leagues and we've kept in
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: touch over the years, so it's kind of neat to
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: see that.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: We again roommates in the big leagues. Yeah, yeah, thank
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: god I was after that. Thank god I missed up
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: my bund. It was like ninety five. When ninety five
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: I think when they stop the roommates after the strike.
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: Oh yes. And Gary Barshaw used to get on all
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: the time because I would order a pizza every night
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: after the game, and he's like, man, I'm gonna get fat.
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: I'm not. I'm not worried about you eating pizza.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: By the pizza self discipline. Let's go okay, So ain't
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: nobody listen.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Ain't nobody sitting there in the roommate orders of pizza
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: and doesn't need some of the pizza.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. There's just no way unless unless you're allergic
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: to pizza.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: What Scott is in good Times, which also Scott is
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: everyone's gonna try a pizza.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Pizza can I just get a pizza? Pizza?
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: You say, just have one piece, you don't need to
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: have hand.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but once you get you know, once that cheese
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: touches your.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Live bread and oh you know you know you want
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: more than will one could just it's like a laced
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: potato chim You just can't have one.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: No, No, that's fair, that's fair, Uh, Joe. First question
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: baseball wise for you Game seven. You've been in a
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: bunch of key spots both as a player and a manager.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: But on the man side here, how do you draw
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: this one up in your head going into tonight? And
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I mean if you want to get into like more
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: of the big picture part of it or the details
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: for you know, how Seattle should do this, how Toronto
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: should do this?
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: Well, I think you always draw it up. You're going
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: to get six innings out of your starter is how
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: you do it, and then you go from there, which
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: you have left in the bullpen Hoffin, as you said,
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: through two innings yesterday, But I would think he'd be
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: available for more than just three outs. And you look
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: at your relievers, and then you look at matchups and
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: who matches up best in those situations, And I would
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: not be afraid to use, you know, a couple of
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: starters in there if I had to, if I don't
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: get you know, the six innings, but I would prefer
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: to use my relievers. The thing with Toronto's relievers is
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: it has not been a knockdown bullpen for the year,
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: and there's probably sometimes a little bit of trepidation. But
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: he's gotten this far with him, so I think you
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: have to go with them.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Okay. So I got to ask this.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: You said that you want to get six innings. Will
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: nobody gets six innings o their starters anymore? Joe, you
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: know this, It's run to the bullpit. Oh no, there's
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: a guy on first. There's a guy on first. We
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: gotta go, we gotta we gotta get our guy. It's like,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: oh my gosh, oh we have we have relievers that
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: are starters and starters that are relievers, and we need
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: to just get everybody in because we have all.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: These toys in the baskets.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: We have to make sure we use them all so
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: after the game nobody can ask why we didn't use
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: this person.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: So I find it interesting that as you as a
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: manager who's managing these games, which says, well, I went
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: into it thinking my starter was gonna give me six,
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: where nowadays if the starter gives them three, they're like, oh,
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: we gotta get him out because one time through.
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: I think one time. I think the things that analytics
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: doesn't always measure is they measures you know, the first
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: time too, the lineup, second time to the line of,
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: third time, two the line, but it doesn't measure that
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: I've seen it RELI reliever five times in seven days.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: They don't do that, and I think that's where clubs
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: sometimes get in trouble. They OVEREXPOSEO. The relievers and the
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: hitters have seen him a number of times, and then
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: it's like seeing a starter of the fourth time through.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: You're used to what he got. So I think I
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: think at times they don't look at that enough and
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: it cost them.
• 21:15
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• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Can you see it and explain it? I know I've
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: watched you in the dugout. I've watched you in the
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: dugout with the Phillies, with the Yankees. Can you see
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: when a pitcher has it and you're like, screw that
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: part of it, I'm gonna keep going, And can you
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: explain it to somebody?
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: So?
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Could you sit there and go because you do a
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: good job of explaining it. Can you explain it and
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: say this is what I'm seeing or is it just
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: like no, I see the till to see the angle.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: Everything's good, and I'm watching their swings.
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: I'm a manager that like to use everything that was
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: given to me as part of the decision, and then
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: I would use my eyes as well. For example, if
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: you know a guy struggles, maybe pitches seventy five through ninety,
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: and he starts to lose his stuff, the numbers tell
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: you that I'm gonna have my red flags up, but
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: that doesn't tell me that he loses it between seventy
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: five and ninety every time. Because it's an average. There
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: are times that he might lose it pitch forty five
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: through sixty, and there are times he may not lose
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: it till after it pitch one ten. So it's an average.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: So I'm going to watch with my eyes as well.
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: And when I watch with my eyes, what I'm looking
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: for is how difficult the abats become. If the first
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: time through the lineup George Kirby against Toronto, Game three,
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: the first time through the lineup, it was pretty easy.
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: Second time the lineup was not very easy. You watch
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: the swings if all of a sudden, the avats are
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: getting harder to get through. It's not like strike one
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: strikes to ball one strikeout or weak contact. All of
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: a sudden there's four or five fah balls. The counts
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: are getting long. You know that a pitcher's losing his stuff,
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: and I think it's time to get him out. And
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: he still may be getting outs, but to me, you're
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: flirting with danger. So I'm watching this as well as
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: what the numbers tell me and using my eyes to
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: determine when a pitcher's done.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: How about your communication with I'm sorry, go ahead, a jay, No,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: go ahead? How about your communication with the pitchers that
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: you are going to in the sense of, you know,
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: if you're John Schneider, you know Louis Varland is pitched
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: in nine of ten postseason games. Normally in the regular season,
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: you're like, hey, how you feel? And as more of
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: like a gauge. But all that information you've learned and
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: gained and everything, are you able to still use that
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: in the postseason Because everyone's like, well, why wouldn't you
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: go to Louis Varland for two innings? And you're like,
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: because I think he's gassed.
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh, I am using it. But there's that extra
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: adrenaline and you have the built in days off that
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: help you. But he's pitched a lot and Seattle has
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: seen him a lot, But I got to count on
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: him for today for one inning. I think the thing
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: that you can't have to be really careful is when
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: you get him up, you have to put him in.
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: You can't get him up sitting down and then get
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: him up again and sitting down and then get him
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: up and bring him in. That's not going to work.
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: You have to know when you're going to pull the
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: trigger here and when I'm bringing in Louis, I'm getting
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: him up the one time and he's coming right in,
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: or I'm not getting him up.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: Aj Hinch told us in the last series against Seattle
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Joe that he'd rather make a decision one bat or
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: too early than one bat or two later. Is that
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: how you have to think about these games as a
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: manager and then just live with your decision however it goes.
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: Yes, I think so, because your decision is well thought out.
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: Your decision is based on a number of factors that
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: could be where you are in the lineup, how much
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: success he's had off those guys, how much he's spunk
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: to him in this series, how fatigued he is, and
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: you have to live with it because you're making a
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: decision with all the information you have, the best decision
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: you can at that time. But guess what, aj there's
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: a human factor and a guy might hang a pitch,
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: or a guy he might make a great pitch and
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: the guy hits it off the end for a squipper
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: for a base hit, and it produces a run and
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: leads to a beginning. Those are things that are out
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: of your control. But you need to make the best
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: decision you have with the information that you have, and
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: you have to live with it. And unfortunately for managers today,
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: everything is heavily scrutinized during the playoffs and you can
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: make all the right decisions and still lose the game
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: because the other team's actually trying to win.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Joe, I can't believe what you just said. I just can't.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: I can't believe what you just have. Like my mind
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: is blown right now. Like wait, you can make a
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: good pitch and a guy still get to hit, or
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: you can hang on andy and they pop it up sometimes.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Or hit into a double play. No, I can't.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: This is you know what, Joe, if you ever want
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: to be a manager again, you are screwed because of
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: that quote right there.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Because there's no such thing as the human element.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: It is all robots and we all just move and
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: do exactly what we're supposed to at all times.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: And so I am honored that you said that, because
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: it's nice to hear someone else say it.
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it's the bottom line. People are competing
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: and sometimes for whatever reason. I mean, you think about
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: a guy like Louis Vauvarlan, he's probably what twenty five
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: percent more fatigued than he is on a normal day,
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: and that twenty five percent might have him hang a
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: slider that turns into a base hit. But he's what
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: you got and you got to go with it. And
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: the other team's feeling it too. So this is this
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: is a time where you got to find a way
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: to get it done and you hope they can do it.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: We're twenty seven minutes into the show now and we've
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: only talked like two minutes on the lineups. It's all
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: been about pitching, and that's what everybody's worried about. You
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: as a manager, Are you worried about how you stack
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: your lineup against against the next day starting pitcher, because
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: I don't really know. Shane Bieber might go two, they
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: might go three. When you're looking at both of these teams.
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: Of course I'm worried about how I stack my lineup.
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: But when you look at Toronto, they're heavily right handed,
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: so that's how they're going to stack their lineup. And
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: look at Seattle, they got switch hitters, so it doesn't
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: really matter to me. The biggest thing is you want
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: to put enough distance between your lefties where they can't
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: bring in a lefty and he gets to see both
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: of them in a three hitter minimum. That's the biggest
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: thing for me, and I don't really think either team
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: struggles with that because the construction of their lineups. So
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: I would just go with what's worked all year long,
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: and this is what we're doing. This is how we're rolling.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: This is the same situation that we were in when
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: we went into Houston in twenty seventeen. So you felt this,
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: You felt the three to two lead going into Away Park.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: What's the feeling for a manager, like, what's the feeling
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: because you can see your coaches around you that are
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: nervous that are not nervous. Do you have to fake
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: your calmness or you like, you know what, I have
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: no control over this. I'm just gonna make the best
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: decisions and hopefully the boys play well.
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: Eric I did it for my whole playing career. I mean,
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: you learn how to right.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: I don't think you don't have those jitters in you
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: and those butterflies. There's something wrong with you because this
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: is exciting and you care so much and you put
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: so much into it. I mean, you guys know that.
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's October whatever it is, twenty first, twenty say,
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: I don't even know, and people are thinking, Okay, you know,
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: it's the end of the year. It's the end of
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: a long year. You guys started training November first. For this,
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: you went through all of spring training. You know, it's long,
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: it's hot, it's a grind. You want to get the
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: season start. Then you go through the grind in the
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: season and for one of these teams, it's going to abrupt.
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: It's going to end really quickly, and it's really sad,
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: and it's a hard pill to swallow because you know
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: what you have to do the next year to even
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: get to the playoffs. It's a long, you know, off
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: season season. So to me, yeah, I just tried to
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: be the same. I wasn't a real emotional guy. Unless
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: I got mad. That's when my motions came out.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: It wasn't.
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: I was never real high when I was happy, or
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: real down when I was low. It's just when I
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: got mad at an umpire or a situation that I
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: showed emotion. So for me, it was pretty much what
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: I grew up seeing in my family, and I just
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: tried to carry it over.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Joe Crab said, if you would have played him in
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: twenty seventeen, you guys would have won. He said that
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: to me the other day, So I'm just like, you.
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: Know, you would just would have played him, you know why,
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: as there's a human element to.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: It instead of Gary Sanchez.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: He swears if he would have hit fourth for that team,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: or fifth whatever Sanchez hit, you.
• 30:35
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• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Game seven in Toronto, and I'll get right to biz
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: with you and we appreciate the time. How do you
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: think the pitching is going to play out for John Schneider?
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: What does the circle of trust look like? What does
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: the lease look like for Shane Bieber?
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: Hey, guys, yeah, I think the least for Bieber will
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: be reasonably long. He was really good in Game three.
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: They're going to need him to produce for them tonight.
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: The circle of trust is not that big, I think
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: elsewhere in this Blue Jay's bullpen. I mean, Schneider publicly
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: will say that he trusts everyone, he believes in all
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: these guys, but I don't know that beyond Sir Anthony Dominguez,
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: Jeff Hoffman, Louis Varland, those seem to be the three
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: guys that they really trust. Beyond that, it honestly might
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: be like a Kevin Gosman or even a Maxters are
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: coming out of the bullpen to bridge that gap.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Like twelve and a half outs long or under twelve
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: and a half out asking for a friend here, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think.
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: For Bieber I would take the over on twelve and
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: a half for Bieber.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I might have to change my lock here
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: coming up.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: Sorry, uh, but my my real question is is you
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: talked about a small circle of trust?
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: I mean Hoffmann through thirty five pitches last night. You
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: know who else?
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Varland looks like he's running on fumesy pitches every day.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: I think they brought him in to throw a simulated
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: game on the off days in this year. Is also
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: just to make sure he was extra tired. But I
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: mean who else will they use? I mean, will we
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: see shures or we keep saying you don't want to
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: use shures er and you don't use basson unless you
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: have to, right, I mean who else? I mean, Sir
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: Anthony di Mingez. I guess I don't think they're bringing
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: in little right maybe lower? I mean flu hardy. I mean,
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: where do they go if they if they're into the
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: sixth inning and they need to figure out I know
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: what I know you're gonna say. It depends on where
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: they are in the lineup. But if they have to
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: get three outs in the sixth inning, who do they
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: turn to?
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: I think it would be I think it actually could
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: be Gosman or Varland. Like obviously, if it's men on base,
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: you're not going to Kevin Gosman in that situation. I
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: think if it's meant on base, you probably go to
• 33:58
  Speaker 7: Varland right there, and he gets you out of the inning.
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: Then maybe you give Gosman like a clean seventh and
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: then it's Sir Anthony eighth and Hoffman ninth and hope
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: for the best, you know, in extra innings, if it
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: got that far, then you know, maybe you're looking at
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: a Max Scherzer. Maybe it is an Eric Lauer. But
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: I think too like there's a possibility early in the
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: game that if things aren't going well for the Jays
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: they might have to go to a Chris Bassett earlier.
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: They might have to go to an Eric Lawer earlier.
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: And I agree with you, you probably don't go to Brennan
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: little and leverage the way Game five went. But they
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: are going to have to trust some guys potentially that
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: haven't necessarily been dominant in the last little while. And
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: that's where I just think they need the offense. They
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: need like a couple of three run homers if they're
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: going to win this thing, And if they get that,
• 34:42
  Speaker 7: then maybe they do make it back to the World Series.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, three run homers. They're nice.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: Obviously everybody wants three run homers. But do you feel
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: like if the Jays lose this game it is because
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: the leash was too long on Shane Bieber? Like, does
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: that trust level need to be that high? Does we
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: just go back his last start Julio Rodriguez h's a
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: two run home run. Uh, he hits a two run
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: home run tonight? Is he out there to face Julio
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: Rodriguez again if they don't have a lead.
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: I think it depends to an extent on how Bieber's
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: stuff looks, as you guys know. I mean, his slider
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: has been really good in the postseason. So if the
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: slider's there and it's more like ninety three ninety four
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: than ninety two ninety three, then I think there's a
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: pathway for him to stay in. But the Jay's are
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: going to have to read this one in real time,
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: and I think that if the vila is, you know,
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: hovering more around ninety two, he's not getting swing and miss,
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: then you just have to make a change.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: You just have to go.
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: And it's going to be uncomfortable, and John Schneider is
• 35:46
  Speaker 7: going to get booed, just like he did last night
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: when he took Trey Savage out, And you know it'll
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: be a tough decision, but I think you have to
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: be prepared to do that just for the sake of
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: making sure that the Mariners need to be facing the
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: best stuff that you can possibly give them, the best
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: command that you can possibly give them. And it's a
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: balancing act because this isn't no dominant pitching staff at
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: this point in time for the Blue Jays, but they've
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: been able to get the job done like they did
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: the bullpen game to clinch against the Yankees. There's not
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: gonna be a bullpen game tonight, but they could rely
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: on a lot of different arms and it might be
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: a bit patchwork where you get a bit more Braden Fisher,
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: you get a bit more amazing flu Hardy, and you
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: just try to make the pieces work, all.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Right, Ben against anything that's happening in Toronto, the Mariners
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: are trying to win this game too, So for the Mariners,
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: they're not going to let Vladimir Guerrero beat them. If
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: they let him beat them, he will beat them. Who
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: outside of vlad has to step up tonight for the
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: Blue Jays lineup.
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: It's a great question, right because I agree they can't
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: let him beat them. And last night I was kind
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: of surprised Dan Wilson let vladd Junior face Logan Gilbert
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: a third time because that point Gilbert's FILA was down.
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: You know, I don't think the wave Laddie handled George
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: Kirby in Game three. He was three for three offen
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: with a double on a home run. So you probably
• 37:08
  Speaker 7: don't want to give Laddie too many looks against Kirby
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: at all, so maybe you're walking him. We almost on
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: Tander's out. We all know Bobachett's out, and we all
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: know George Springer's hurt. So it's like someone has to
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: step up in all this and it's not the easiest.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Thing to predict.
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: I always look at Allehandra Kirk simply because Kirk is
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: a guy who has stepped up in these big moments
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: for the Blue Jays, and everyone is around this team
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: always says that Kirk. You know, as you guys know
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: from being around him and being around the game so much,
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: He's just got one of those slow heart beats. He's
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: not going to be over stressed out by the moment,
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: you know. He's kind of built for Game sevens in
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: that way. So I kind of look to Kirk as
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: someone not to hit one over the fence, but hit
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: a double, get a single to the opposite field when
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: you just need an RBI. Like, he's a guy who
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: can do that, and the Jays are going to need
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: that because, like you say, they probably won't be pitching
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: to vlat all.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: Right, So what's what's going on with Kirk? Because he's
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: someone I mentioned earlier, but he struggled. He struggled. He
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: hasn't been great in the postseason. Yes, he had the
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: great first gamer he hit the two room runs, but
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: other than that, it's been kind of struggles. So you
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: mentioned he has a slow heartbeat. Maybe is it too
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: slow to We need to get him some caffeine before
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: the the game and get him going a little bit
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: because they need him.
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they need him for sure. Yeah, uh that's yeah,
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: that's a good thought.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Kirk.
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: Caffeinated Kirk could be a sight to see. I don't
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: even know what that would look like, but I'd be
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: interested to see it. They need someone to step up,
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: and this has been the story of their season all
• 38:39
  Speaker 7: year really, where they've had, you know, Barger come out
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: of nowhere, Ernie Clement come out of nowhere, Nathan Lucas.
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: Maybe Clement's another one, because you know, Clement has been
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: dominant this postseason. He's kind of been Bobachett at a
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: time that Boba Schett is hurt. Clement's the guy who's
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: going out and getting two hits tonight and playing great
• 38:59
  Speaker 7: defense and doing all the things that you would look
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: for out of an impact infielder. So I could see
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: Ernie Clement being a big factor because he's just so
• 39:10
  Speaker 7: tough to pitch to. He's so tough to game plan
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: for because he's going to swing at everything. You know
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: you can. You can come up with whatever approach you
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: want against him. You can put it six inches above
• 39:19
  Speaker 7: the strike zone. He's still going to swing at it
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: and probably make contact. So I imagine that's a pretty tough
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: player to scheme against when he's going really well, and
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: right now it's going great for Ernie Clement, So I
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: would look for him as another one, even if Alejandro
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: Kirk is, you know, not quite accessing that peak form offensively.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: I could have easily looked at the weather at but
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: I'd rather get boots on the ground. Is the roof
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: open or closed?
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: So I'm at home right now, but it's a beautiful
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: day outside. I would think pretty good chance it's open.
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: There's blue skies. I was just outside earlier and super
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: nice probably you know, sixty five seventy degrees and you
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: could one hundred percent play baseball in this with the
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: roof open, So that'd be pretty cool. But yeah, I
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: haven't seen the actual roof downtown yet.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: What is the what is the your guest of who
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: throws out the first pitch for Game seven? Because they've
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: thrown out some They've thrown out some doozies, but I feel.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Like they already played their best hand.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: Is Carlos Dogato throwing the first pitch tonight?
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Oh? Man?
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: I would love that. So I would love to hear
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: your predictions, if you guys have any on this one,
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: because I've been kind of debating it with a few people.
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: My prediction is Marco Estrada. I think that's that's what
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: I foresee. I think it would be cool as hell
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: to have John Gibbons throw at the first pitch, Orcito
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: Gaston or Joe Carter. But yeah, my prediction is Marco Withstrada,
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: and I would love to hear your thoughts if you
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: guys have any predictions I need.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: No, he's a World Series guy. He's a World Series guy. Marcostrada.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Why Marcostrada? Why not Edward and then Carson you know?
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: And his parent Well, they had Edwin du One earlier
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: in the series, so they already had Edwin, Kevin Pular, Russell,
• 41:08
  Speaker 7: Martin Bautista, and I'm missing someone, Oh, Josh Donaldson. They
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: had Josh Donaldson. So you know they've gone through that
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: twenty fifteen team. And I agree they'll probably stave like
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: Cdo and Joe Carter for the World Series if they
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: get there. So that's where I go to Marco Westradak
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: because he's one of the really beloved guys from that
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: team that hasn't thrown the first pitch yet.
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: No, got it.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking, I'm thinking, Paul Mallin, what about Robbie Allen Mark?
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: Have we got a Robbie Alamars?
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I think so he could stay he could stay out
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: in the hotel and then just throw it from there.
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: I like Delgatto. Del Gatto would be awesome. He's got
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: to underrecognized jays.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: De Gotto hit the farthest ball I've ever seen in
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: my life in that place. Yeah.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Oh he hit it over the restaurant centerfeck. Oh my gosh,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: he hit it. Oh it was It was impressive.
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: They love them out there.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: He's awesome. He should be in the Hall of Fame
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: for me.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: But I could have done it. I could have done
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: it because I helped build that fifteen team. I was
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: in the Liam Hendricks trade that got Liam Hendricks and
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: me traded away, but then Liam came back because the
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: Royals were like, we don't want Liam, and so I
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: helped build that team.
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: Where are you now, Eric, Is it too late to
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: get here on time?
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: I make it. I'll make it.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just have just have Paul Beaston, Paul Beaston's uh
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: private jet.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: Come pick me up.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: Oh wait, he's not the owner anymore.
• 42:29
  Speaker 7: Okay, well you know what. We'll see who it is,
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: but yeah, I think it'll be. It's one of those
• 42:35
  Speaker 7: cool moments. I actually love first pitches, like when the
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: Yankees head Hedeki Mats who we do it. I thought
• 42:39
  Speaker 7: that was really cool. The Mariners had like Randy Johnson
• 42:42
  Speaker 7: and Jay bun are doing it. It's someone who always
• 42:44
  Speaker 7: like I like the players from the past. It's just
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: so cool to see them come back and get that applause.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially when they understand the moment Bautista's firing up
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: the crowd all that that's cool. If Kratz does it,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: he has to explain what he just did so that
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: anyone would understand what's going on. Hey, guys, I'm here
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: because I was in this Liam Enter trade. And then
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: also hope you accept me anyway, Ben, I know you're busy.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Thanks for hopping on, dude. This was great. Enjoy it
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: out there. It's gonna be awesome. Thanks so much. Guys.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Have fun.
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  Speaker 1: that title belonged to Shoho Tani on Friday night in
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  Speaker 1: the clincher for the Dodgers. It was an incredible watch.
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  Speaker 1: The highly debated topic that we've had a couple of
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: days to think about is did he just have the
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: greatest game in baseball history? Among many others? What's the
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: debate people are debating it. I want to present them.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: Please do because there's nobody in the history of the
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: game it's ever done what he did. And also go
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: on the mound and have six innings, ten punches and
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: give up two hits in a game that clinched them the.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: World Series, right, So if you can find someone else
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: that did that, Scott, let me know, then we haven't argument.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you. First of all, if we just
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: said overall games and we're just looking at stats, there
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: are other performances that were in the regular season. You're
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: gonna say this is posted.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Given to me.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: But Rick Wise, no hitter in nineteen seventy home runs, Okay,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I get the playoff.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Part, but just past I don't know exactly.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Tony Klonninger two grand slams in a complete game in
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six, get it? And then you're gonna say
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: those are regular season right, Okay, so let's wipe that out.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: That one's pretty good.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Two grand slams in the CG.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: That's pretty good in sixty six.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: That's cool. I I've enjoyed the history process of this.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest history buff. I think this school. Okay,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Now let's fast forward. Let me see if I can
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: do any convincing here.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, who hasn't hit two grand slams in a game?
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: I have in a pro game?
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Triple a baby triple.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: A, I mean Semiro, but still semi pro bro. Still,
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, we don't here, we don't need mine.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, I'm just saying, apparently it's cloning Juror.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: Don't just want to make you who he is. But
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: he'll be a jerk and get his name right.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Good one, Thank you. Next up, playoffs. Okay, so let's
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: actually fast forward to World Series. I think the ones
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: that start to get like competition going is.
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  Speaker 3: Four homer games.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Well, no, I don't think there are any four in
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. There's a bunch of threes. No, no fours
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So now we're in playoff mode right to see
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: the greatest performance ever in the postseason. Because this is
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: three to zero and this is the NLCS. So Don
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Larson game five, World Series, perfect game, tight game, Yankees
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: win two, nothing series tied to two. He's facing the
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: defending champ, Brooklyn Dodgers, Hall of famers all over the lineup,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Gil Hodges, Jackie Robinson, Pee Reese, Roy Campanella, Duke Snyder. Right,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: so that's big.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Did he hit? No?
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: But did that game have more magnitude?
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: What about World Series games like Reggie Jackson nineteen seventy
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: eight World series to clinch it and hits three home runs.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: CHOI did that, and so that one's out.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: But but I'm saying the magnitude of he clinched the
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Pennant Right World Series. Okay, I'm just playing cases out there.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: For me, it's so far the only one that's even
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: closes the Don Lars some perfect game.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: He went the distance, gave up nothing, tight game, and
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: that's the World Series. The World Series is the biggest.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: And it was Game five, which is a meaningful game.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: But still this is the greatest game I've ever seen. Okay,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I can't even come. And I've
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: seen some.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: I've seen four Homer games, I've seen cycles, I've seen
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: I've seen perfect games. I've seen this, I've seen that.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: But and nobody hit went out of the stadium like
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: show he did either. Yeah, I hear like man for
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: Chad Patrick, look at his reaction.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: That's the best four hundred and sixty nine plus feet giggy.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: But Gil Chance, he was just incredible.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: But now he gets a week off, so and so
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: now they'll complain about he had.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: Too much time off.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: He was so good on the mound too, I mean
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: and you're seeing him pump a hondo plus on some pitches,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: six shoutout in nings, two hits, and he had more
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: homers at the plate than he allowed hits in six innings.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: It was incredible.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: Is there is there a point where you almost want
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: him to not throw his heart on the mound so
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: that he stays? You forget because he's going back to
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: back years of Dodgers home run record and then he
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: beats his own Dodgers home run record for the season
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: we've seen hitting and you know, oh my gosh, he
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: had four and sixty nine foot home run out of
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: the stadium. Like we want him, I want him to
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: stay on the mound. So is there an area? Is
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: there a place where he can sit ninety four ninety
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: five and not have to pump one hundred every time?
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Is that possible?
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: Does that even keep him healthy? Obviously I'm just asking
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: just because we're talking about the greatest game and I'm
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: almost maybe you guys don't believe me, but I'm almost
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: not surprised.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: Stop, can we can we can we show this with Curry?
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Hurry hery. We can't show this?
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: Can we?
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: He's calling me, they can get that. We can't see.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Semmoto, says Tory Hunter. I'm not going to
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: answer it though, So come on, he's got a job.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Are you the guy? Now? Did you?
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: That's why I text him And then he's calling me
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: a gig. Yeah, I text him like you're the new manager,
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: and so you know, he called me.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: We're off in ten minutes. So yeah, we'll get there.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: Well, only if we had a spot where he could
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: be like a gat if only we had a show
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: where we could have Tory Hunter on where he's not
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: in his truck and he could do some interviews.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: He was great when he was on. Wait, I just
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: want to stay on.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Him on a couple of times we had him on himself,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: and then we had him on with uh Denzel Clark
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: after you.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Made that catch.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was cool. That was cool.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Wait one more, Jack Morris tenanting shut Out Game seven
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: ninety one.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: You know what I love about that game is everybody
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: always remembers like especially and we all love Smolts, but
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: like even last night with Joe Davis talking about like
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: they always it's always for some reason remembered as the
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: John Smoll I guess because he's on TV.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: But he lost that game. It was the Jack Morris
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: game that went ten.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: That's to me is like it is the small town
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: unbelievable run in the postseason, but like that game was
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: Jack Morris, right, I think that's the Jack but if
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: you you know, but most people only remember it because
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: Smoltz is on TV a little bit more outside of Minnesota.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: People were like, man, it was this great game and
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: John Smolts went eight innings, no runs, and some other
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: guys in the Hall of Fame John, Oh yeah, Jack
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: Morris went ten and they won one another and Jene
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: Lark and my guy number nine hit a hit the
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: single to drive in the dazzle the scullet Dan Gladden
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: from third.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: That's a good one. So it's just cool.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: That must be a fox. That must be a Fox thing,
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: because I think of it is a Jack Morris game.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: I was a brains fan. I was a brains fan,
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: so I mean, of course I was looting for the
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: That's why.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Also, so last thing here, because I know we have
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: like twenty seconds, I'll just give you the line at
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: the finisher here, Babe, Ruth. One hundred and sixty six
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: games pitch and this is from Jason Starks article one
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: time he had a two homer game. I think we
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: have to get away from the Otani Ruth comparisons at
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: some point because he's doing things that Babe didn't do,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: like he is in another weight class. In terms of
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: the two way status, it is, it is what it is.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Babe's a slugger, Otani's a two way sensation. All right,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: let's slap into reminder. We're gonna stay on for a
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: few minutes after If you're watching this on YouTube, you
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: got one minute though, and we got to tell the
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: crowd what happened.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, So I had a bet with a guy
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: player on Mississippi Stag who's you know. It was friends
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: with my daughter when she went to Missippi State.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: So and by the way, your team stucks because they suck,
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: and so not a money bet, No, not a money bet.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: It was to get a tattoo. So whoever whoever lost
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: had to get a tattoo.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: And I was on the field and I was sweating
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: and a interception, Thank you ninety three for Florida, and
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: I don't have to get a tattoo. And then I
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: saw the kid after the game. He was like crying,
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: and I felt so bad far just it was one
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: of those moments.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: It was cool. Sorry, but yeah, it was awesome.
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