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- 0:04Oh hey, welcome to into channel podcast pregnant about 1 safari
- 0:10my host Dean suspicion. As always, I'm joined by my Co
- 0:13host, Mr. Grant Angle. What is up man?
- 0:18I'm feeling fantastic, buddy. Some could say I'm feeling the
- 0:21best I felt in 2025, which I think is probably fitting for
- 0:26this episode. An 11 out of 10, you might say I
- 0:31want to get to it. We're here, we're at the end of
- 0:34the year. It's been a great year of
- 0:36potting bunch of highlights, not too many low lights, thankfully,
- 0:41but it's time to pretty much crown who we think.
- 0:45Well, let me rewind a little bit.
- 0:46I kind of racked my brain a little bit about how we were
- 0:48going to do our best at 11. A lot of different ways to do
- 0:50it. You know, we love a draft.
- 0:52I love a draft, a Dora draft, but I, I, I kind of also have
- 1:00been rubbed the wrong way, way too often with some of these
- 1:04other lists and superlatives and awards.
- 1:07And it's like, why can't we get this right?
- 1:10I was like, you know what, we're going to try, we're going to get
- 1:13this right. We're actually going to, we're
- 1:14going to try to get it right. We're actually going to get it
- 1:15right. And I put the prompt out like
- 1:20your direction and let me make sure I get this right.
- 1:24I said let's bottle up the entire 2025 that these players
- 1:28had and assemble, you know, assuming we're going to bottle
- 1:32up their 2025 and roll them out for one game.
- 1:36Let's assemble the absolute best 11 that we can so that there is
- 1:41no other 11 on this planet, on the Internet, not on the
- 1:45Internet, that can compete with what we're going to put forward
- 1:49in this episode. But I think it's it's an amazing
- 1:52prompt. So I mean, look, I'll pose this
- 1:55to the to the viewer, take a quick detour into the NBA.
- 2:00Think about it like this shot for your life, Steph Curry
- 2:04versus Larry Bird. It's it's a life, it's a life or
- 2:08death situation, right? Like what you like, what are you
- 2:11doing? So you, you were bottling.
- 2:13Like you said, we're bottling. Go ahead, please.
- 2:17I was working on this earlier. This is my NBA topless.
- 2:21I've got yeah, I've got Curry 6, Bird 7.
- 2:24So if you're if you're curious, that's how I got the ranked.
- 2:27I got curious Spinch ahead and here we are.
- 2:30It came up thankfully I've got my I snuck some NBA notes into
- 2:34an ITC personal record, but we'll talk about that one later.
- 2:36But I digress. Sorry to interrupt.
- 2:40It's amazing that you just working on your NBA top ten.
- 2:43I like that. You want to have it locked and
- 2:44loaded. That's fantastic.
- 2:46I would be lying. I'm not, you know, and I'm not
- 2:48mocking you here because I would be lying if I didn't say I have
- 2:51the rough top ten in my head. And I've workshopped it too.
- 2:55So yeah, the similarities never end at this point.
- 2:58So, you know, shot for your life, game for your life,
- 3:03bottling up the 2025 performances, the moments, the
- 3:06stats, the output, and then you got to field an 11 for your
- 3:11life. Got my.
- 3:16Sharpie, that's right. Got my, my, my extra dramatic,
- 3:21you know, super serious uncorking of the Sharpie.
- 3:24With that said, how many positions did you have Sharpie?
- 3:28Because I'm sure you did an 11. How many?
- 3:30I put together 45 names one page after my, my NBA, what ended up
- 3:36being an NBA top 23. So shout out to you.
- 3:39I, I, I listed a bunch of names here because we, we lost power
- 3:43here in San Francisco also. So I was 10 1/2 hours without
- 3:45power. So all my prep had to move to my
- 3:47IT personal record book. But I've got my, my, my whole
- 3:50like, sort of like formation here.
- 3:52And then I've got my, my little Sharpie said situation where
- 3:56I've got formations and I've got boxes and I've got 123456 seven
- 4:03names in 11 boxes. So you could say that I've got 7
- 4:07names Sharpied. I'm very curious to hear how
- 4:11many names you've got Sharpied. I want I wonder how close we are
- 4:15because I it's hard to think of it as like I didn't really do it
- 4:19in the, in the sharpie sharpie. But honestly, I would say when
- 4:23you asked me the question, I looked at my 11, I think 6 that
- 4:26I kind of was going into the exercise like they got it, got
- 4:29to have, I can't do it without without them.
- 4:32Yeah. So I think we're we're close.
- 4:34I think if I had 6 and you had seven, I think we're right right
- 4:36around the ballpark. I'm going to guess that I'm, I'm
- 4:41curious to see how many overlap Sharpies we have.
- 4:46So let's get into it. I want you to pick our
- 4:50formation. And again, I've got a bunch of
- 4:52names. So whatever, whatever route we,
- 4:54you want you, whatever route you want to take us, whatever you
- 4:57put up here on the whiteboard, you know what?
- 4:58We'll, we'll put the personnel in to make it work.
- 5:02And I'm here to collaborate. So you tell me how we're setting
- 5:05up and then let's let's let's get some superstars into our
- 5:10lineup. I appreciate you trusting me
- 5:12with this buddy. Can we start with a beverage?
- 5:16I'm on wired headphones, so I've got to like run for a second.
- 5:18But yeah, I definitely want to get a beverage.
- 5:20But you can. You can, yeah.
- 5:21I'll be right back. Fridge is right here.
- 5:23All right, you go ahead and go ahead and do that.
- 5:26I'll start cracking the beverage.
- 5:28Yeah, do some filibustering. I can do that.
- 5:32All right. Well, Dino, does that just give
- 5:35you the the sneak preview? I'm going to pick a little bit
- 5:39of a strange formation. We'll just see how our guy
- 5:42reacts. Still not used to this wired
- 5:45situation so I didn't hear anything you said.
- 5:47Hopefully it was entertaining. Oh, it was riveting.
- 5:50Smartest thing I've ever said, if you could believe it.
- 5:53All right, so beverage is cracked.
- 5:55I'm mid poor. I'm way behind.
- 5:59Cheers to you. Cheers to the football, cheers
- 6:01to syncing up. There it is.
- 6:05I want to start with this. I know everybody that I saw on
- 6:08social media was really happy with FIFA's best 11.
- 6:12Just a lot of just a lot of high fives and Pats on the back for
- 6:16our pals over at FIFA. And in fairness to them, the
- 6:20panelists that they had who voted on this, we're not just a
- 6:24bunch of rich dudes in suits. They had a lot of serious bald
- 6:28knowers casting votes. I I want to shout out
- 6:30specifically Desiree Ellis. She's the manager of South
- 6:33Africa, Banana Banana, who had a great showing at the 2023 World
- 6:38Cup. She knows ball, obviously a
- 6:39great manager. Vlatko Andonovsky was a
- 6:42panelist, not so great at the 2023 World Cup, but his team did
- 6:48compile more points than any team ever in the NWSL.
- 6:51Just last season they had Gemma Granger as a panelist, she's
- 6:55Norway's manager. LED them to a very solid EUR.
- 6:58Heather O'Reilly was there. She was A252015 World Cup
- 7:02winner, 4 time NWSL champion, three time Olympic gold medalist
- 7:07with US women's professional team.
- 7:10But now it is time for us to construct the perfect best 11
- 7:16that I'm just assured nobody will argue with.
- 7:19I fully expect this episode to be our most watched ever and for
- 7:24it to just be received with universal applause.
- 7:26Because, you know, that's how best elevens work.
- 7:29Absolutely. I mean, if people want to, you
- 7:33know, bring it, bring it. I'm ready.
- 7:35Like I said, I've got my Sharpie and I don't fuck around.
- 7:38When I get my Sharpie, let's get to it.
- 7:40What do we want to do? Back to front for me?
- 7:42Where do you want to start? Let's go back to front.
- 7:44I think. I think we'll we'll start with
- 7:46the goalkeepers, but would you like to know what I landed on
- 7:51for the formation? I would.
- 7:54Let's give it the all 352. OK, OK.
- 8:05You text, you texted me and said, hey, the more exotic the
- 8:09formation, the better. And I thought, you know what?
- 8:12In this game for our life, if you have a game for your life,
- 8:15OK, you have a game for your life, wouldn't you like to have
- 8:21more of the ball? Wouldn't you like to control the
- 8:25midfield because like game for your life?
- 8:29You don't want to play counter attacking football.
- 8:32That's not, that's not like that doesn't inspire confidence, I
- 8:35don't think. No, no, we wanted to play
- 8:37attacking, attacking football. I like this because my midfield
- 8:41was overfloweth for sure and I've got 2 killers up top.
- 8:46So I'm I'm excited to get into it.
- 8:48Let's kick it off. We start with goalkeeper, right?
- 8:52Yes, please, let's do it. You want to go first.
- 8:58I mean, I'll throw out the name. I'd be I'd be surprised if you
- 9:02and I differed on this, but I I'm open to being surprised.
- 9:05Let me just throw it out there. I think it should be on Katrin
- 9:09Berger. Bang, let's.
- 9:11Go. That was my J Triano Bang.
- 9:14Love it. I I mean look. 10 clean sheets
- 9:17in the NWSL. She helps win the 2025 NWSL
- 9:21Championship. She had an incredible safe at
- 9:25the death versus our Orlando Pride.
- 9:28Yes, that made us sad in the moment, but it was an absolutely
- 9:31unbelievable diving backwards versus Marta of all people.
- 9:35Come on, what are we talking about?
- 9:37Insane safe and I think you'll be excited about this.
- 9:40I think this is a thing that I have kind of adopted from you in
- 9:45our time together talking about sports and and specifically
- 9:48football is I have a moment for every player in my in the 11
- 9:54that I would like to suggest. And you know, we'll we'll you
- 9:56know, but there'll be some give and take here.
- 9:58I'm sure. You know, you'll name some
- 9:59players and be like, all right, yeah, let's put them in the
- 10:01eleven they got. Germany gets to the semi finals
- 10:05of the EUR and the save that on Katrin Berger made to prevent an
- 10:11own goal in that quarter final verse.
- 10:14France was the first version of what she did against Marta later
- 10:19in the year in the in the semi final versus Orlando Pride,
- 10:24where you know, the ball takes a weird bounce.
- 10:27If I I can't remember what took a weird bounce off of from
- 10:30Germany, but she has to go back and then she you know, she makes
- 10:34a very similar safe diving backwards, pulls it off the
- 10:37line. I think this one was left-handed
- 10:39that that she had pulled off the line and then they go into
- 10:43penalty shootout and of course she scores a goal in the penalty
- 10:46shootout to win it. And I just think, you know, 2025
- 10:51was AKB's year. 0 arguments here.
- 10:56AKB one of my sharpie names for sure.
- 10:59I mean, you already know what the resume is.
- 11:03You know, you, we know what Berger did for Gotham at the
- 11:06beginning, you know, at the end of like last end of BLC, the BSL
- 11:10season coming in, obviously those performance for
- 11:13performances for Germany. And then if we're being honest,
- 11:18carried a Gotham team that was a middle of the pack team for the
- 11:24the grand majority of the NWSL season down the stretch and and
- 11:29really was like absolutely integral.
- 11:33Like without Burger, it's like that championship just does not
- 11:36exist. And then it doesn't mean that
- 11:38she's the reason they won. But without her, I don't think
- 11:41they get it done. You know, I think that's pretty
- 11:43clear to say she she instills A tremendous amount of confidence
- 11:47into the defenders and her entire team ahead of her.
- 11:50So she was an absolute lock for me.
- 11:53And I love that she's got the international experience and
- 11:55also the club experience and then caps it off with lifting
- 11:59the trophy. No doubt.
- 12:02Quick, quick accounting piece here in FIFA's Best 11 they,
- 12:09they, you know, they categorize the year as August 11th, 2024 to
- 12:16August 2nd, 2025. Is that kind of the window that
- 12:20you were looking at or are we doing or were you doing calendar
- 12:22year 2025? No, we're doing calendar year, I
- 12:25mean like. OK.
- 12:27Yeah, I mean, if somebody was cooking last weekend, why do we
- 12:30have to count it next year? Let's just count it.
- 12:32OK, fair enough. Now I was doing a little bit of
- 12:352425 based on FIFA's calculations because you
- 12:39obviously FIFA represents everything that's right in the
- 12:42world, but that's OK. I think a lot of the the pics
- 12:45are still going to play even if we're looking at calendar 2025,
- 12:50so OK. You kicked us off the
- 12:53goalkeeper. I I have one.
- 12:55I have two Sharpie names on my back line.
- 13:00OK. I'm very interested to hear
- 13:02where you're at now. I'm going to start with, I'm
- 13:08going to start with the name that I think maybe you might be
- 13:11less likely to have. And for me at center back,
- 13:16that's just Carter. And you think about, obviously,
- 13:23Carter's play on the pitch doesn't always jump off the
- 13:26screen. You know, we're just like, like,
- 13:29look at the ground she covered or closed down the, you know,
- 13:32the space or, you know, but super smart in the right place
- 13:39most of the time when through her positioning, you know, it's
- 13:43tough to be, you know, one-on-one when she's got that
- 13:46positioning right. And then in my conversations
- 13:49with Jess Carter during the championship week, I was just
- 13:54fascinating because this is a player that won everything this
- 13:55year. You know, when's the EUR, when's
- 13:58the NWSL? You know, racism comes, comes
- 14:03looking for just Carter. Just Carter beats racism in her
- 14:07own just Carter way as well. You know, just an incredible
- 14:10year for an incredibly inspiring player.
- 14:15You know, And like, this was the year that I became like a girl
- 14:18dad. And it was important for me to
- 14:21ask just, Carter, Like, what message do you have for some of
- 14:25these young women that are going to face someone's adversity?
- 14:29And her answer was like, incredibly inspiring.
- 14:32I actually kind of want to drop that here.
- 14:33So I'm going to do that real quick.
- 14:35Can you talk a little bit about? Maybe some of the young girls
- 14:37that might be looking up to. You in this moment and.
- 14:39Obviously the perseverance that you showed this year, you have a
- 14:42message for them. I think they just keep going
- 14:45that you are as good as you believe that you are.
- 14:47It's don't listen to the outside noise and you deserve to be
- 14:51where you want to be. And that's the biggest thing.
- 14:53And we're all going to have major setbacks.
- 14:55I mean, I've had a lot this year and here I am with two huge
- 14:59trophies. So I think to just ignore the
- 15:02negative side of it and just to keep doing what you love.
- 15:06I mean, you can see from her answer too, from, from a lot of
- 15:08her answers as we could see her kind of going down the line
- 15:11after after winning the final. She still had like a level of
- 15:16game time intensity like in her eyes and in her answers, like,
- 15:20you know, there are people and obviously, you know, you and I
- 15:23played like low level sports. I know you played some college
- 15:25hoops, which is far higher level than anything I haven't reached.
- 15:28But like you, you always had those players who took a little
- 15:32longer to kind of like wind down from the competition.
- 15:35And it it certainly felt like, I'm not going to pretend like I
- 15:37know her well at all. I've had one post match
- 15:39interview with her. But like that intensity bears
- 15:44itself out on the pitch for her. Like, and in a way, like you
- 15:48said, I think it's important to to to mention that she plays the
- 15:52game with an intelligence that is supported by her physicality
- 16:00and then the way she's kind of able to push people around out
- 16:02there. So I mean, she has a lot of the
- 16:04goods that you need for a player.
- 16:06She was certainly on my list. I did not have her sharpied in
- 16:12and you said you would you would play her at center back here or
- 16:15I I know she spends time at left back as well.
- 16:19What do you, what do you kind of, if we're playing three in
- 16:21the back, where, where would you prefer to have Jess Carter?
- 16:25I would I would put a pin in it to see who who are the three
- 16:29are. But I'm just in the, of the
- 16:32opinion that what Carter did this year, you stack on top of
- 16:40it, you know, the, the, the detractors, you know, and still,
- 16:45you know, 'cause like, I mean, remember we were talking to
- 16:47Jackie Oleo over the summer, you know, who was talking?
- 16:50And remember, just Carter kind of was not played off the, the,
- 16:54the England, you know, squad, but ended up missing a game.
- 17:00You know, I think after, you know, the big blow, the Internet
- 17:03blowback. So it like it was really in
- 17:05question whether she was going to come back or not.
- 17:07And then comes back for the final and is awesome in the
- 17:11final. You know, it's just like not,
- 17:13you know, not enough that you know, OK, she's back playing and
- 17:16like representing, but was awesome and was integral.
- 17:19And then does it again in the NWSL championship.
- 17:21Again for this Gotham side that was an 8 seed that even the week
- 17:26of the championship, I'm like, I don't know, man, this this
- 17:28Washington side is like they're loaded, super talented, tons of
- 17:32like potency offensively. I don't really see it.
- 17:35You know, you look at like Gotham defenders, they they
- 17:38don't look that overwhelming, that overpower, you know, like
- 17:43you kind of feel like the spirit could, could get around them and
- 17:46get through them. Didn't happen.
- 17:47They were super stout. And for me, I know it's probably
- 17:52a little bit of a alternative pick, but for a lot of different
- 17:56reasons. For me, Jess Carter was an
- 17:59absolute sharpie, like a winning player if we have to, if we if
- 18:03we're going to stick to the the rubric of like, let's go out and
- 18:06win a game. Like what are we talking about?
- 18:09What are we talking about? That's a great point.
- 18:12I mean, she's got the trophy, she's got the hardware to prove
- 18:15it in 2025. And I think that, you know, we
- 18:17talked about like the intelligence of her game is it's
- 18:20a great call out by you, the mental toughness to to to kind
- 18:24of to kind of get through, you know, that abuse, there's really
- 18:29no other word for I mean, there, I guess there are a lot of
- 18:31words, but I think abuse is like a a, an accurate word to
- 18:35describe. So to power through that and
- 18:38then still continue to compete at that high of a level.
- 18:40It's great shot by you all. Right, let's do it.
- 18:43Who else? We got back line.
- 18:44I've got one other Sharpie, but I'm going to kick it to you.
- 18:48OK, now this is the player who I thought you were introing here.
- 18:51I think Leah Williamson, She was one of my Sharpies.
- 18:56Look, she played in 12 of the 13 matches in the UEFA Women's
- 19:00Champions League. Thinking about, you know, this
- 19:05this past Champions League, she played the full 90 in every
- 19:08match that she appeared in. She fought through some injuries
- 19:11during the league season. She had two goals in that league
- 19:13season. But you know, 17 and 19
- 19:15appearances were starts in the in the WSL.
- 19:20She captained England's second consecutive Euro victory.
- 19:24And if you want to think about a moment, she was absolutely
- 19:29critical in that Champions League final against Eva Payor,
- 19:33CGH, Claudia Pina, Bon Matisse, the incredible attack that
- 19:37Barcelona had to offer in that match, she had 14 clearances, 2
- 19:41interceptions and five recoveries.
- 19:43She was a beast out there when she absolutely needed to be.
- 19:46And I mean, when I'm thinking about center backs for this
- 19:50year, you win a, you win a euro as a captain and then you're a
- 19:56key part in a, in lifting a Champions League trophy.
- 20:00Gigantic year for her. Yeah, it's going to be, I mean,
- 20:03it's so tough to, you know, you look at like those England
- 20:07results and like, you know, it it massive.
- 20:12It's hard to argue with. And then you couple that with
- 20:15Arsenal in the Champions League and, you know, just takes it up
- 20:18a level. I want to talk about this,
- 20:21Blair, because we're, we're I, I feel I feel a bit of a trend
- 20:26developing here. My other sharpie was yet 1/3
- 20:31Lioness and I had Lucy bronze. Yeah, sure.
- 20:35Me too. Because we're talking big game,
- 20:39we're talking to play. You know, we we saw what Lucy
- 20:41Bronze did against Wolfsburg in the Champions League.
- 20:44And I think, you know, that there's something about Bronze
- 20:47moving on from Barcelona where I think that kind of put a little
- 20:51bit of an imprint on my mind where it's like, OK, well,
- 20:53Bronze may be entering a different phase of her career.
- 20:57No, still unbelievable. Still.
- 21:00Yeah, turns out. Still take over, you know, an
- 21:03entire match, you know, like, really?
- 21:05She had two massive stops against Wolfsburg in a match
- 21:09where Chelsea was stuck in neutral for most of the first
- 21:12half and then scores the first goal, saves two goals, scores
- 21:18the 1st. I have equalizer and sets
- 21:20Chelsea on the road to, you know, beating Wolfsburg,
- 21:24clinching on top 4. And that's just again, Lucy
- 21:28bronze. Every week she does something
- 21:29that's like really off the charts and you talk about resume
- 21:33and big games her I mean her her 2025 is where is right there as
- 21:38well. She doesn't have to change the
- 21:40you know, trophy that that Williamson does.
- 21:41But I don't know, are we too? This is some heavy lioness bias,
- 21:47but are we in the wrong here? Do we?
- 21:49Do we have, I'm not sure if we have the right three, but I
- 21:52don't know. I, I feel like do we need to
- 21:54take a step back? I could certainly live with
- 21:56these three. Let me let me give you some of
- 21:58my Lucy Tough bronze AKA Lucy Big Game Bronze stats as well.
- 22:04So I I am a big fan of the scouting report statistic on FB
- 22:11Ref football reference. A great website if you're if
- 22:13you're interested in woman's football stats.
- 22:16They use this scouting report metric which is where a player
- 22:19is compared to their positional peers in the woman's top 9
- 22:23competitions. So it's like all the big leagues
- 22:26plus the Champions League essentially.
- 22:28And it's, and it's for the the previous 365 days.
- 22:32So in this metric, I'm kind of operating with you sort of on
- 22:36the calendar year, considering we're like late in December and
- 22:38I'm I'm looking at these statistics.
- 22:40Lucy Bronze is in the 97th percentile compared to her
- 22:44defender peers in interceptions. She's in the 99th percentile in
- 22:49aerial balls. 1 when she went to Chelsea, they immediately win
- 22:52the domestic treble. It's not something they've done
- 22:54since the 20, 2020-2021 season. She's obviously gigantic in
- 23:00helping England win the EUR. She revealed after the after
- 23:04they win the final that she had been playing on a broken tibia
- 23:08throughout the tournament. And for me, the moment in that
- 23:12EUR, they're down to nil to Sweden.
- 23:15There's like 11 minutes left and there's Lucy Bronze on the back
- 23:20post to pull one back with like 10 minutes remaining in those
- 23:25quarterfinals. Ajerman gets the equalizer
- 23:27later. They win it in penalties.
- 23:29But you know, what can you say about Lucia?
- 23:33Tough bronze? I mean, she is still at what
- 23:36she's got to be 3233, somewhere in that ballpark, one of the
- 23:40absolute best players in the world.
- 23:43Yeah, it's like age doesn't throw that out the window.
- 23:47Just one of the best players like I'm in and like, you know,
- 23:50wreck a game and then and that Wiltsberg match.
- 23:52I'm just like, you know, I know. And I think Bronze has some ball
- 23:57indoors and or at least one in her.
- 23:59She's FIFA Player in the year, in 2020, I want to say yeah.
- 24:04So that's what I had in my head. And I'm like, this player is not
- 24:10that far off from just the best player.
- 24:12Like when you see what she's able to do in the, in these huge
- 24:15matchups. So, so we've got 3, and I know
- 24:19you've got to set up in a 352. I'm sure there's some honorable
- 24:24menchies that we want to knock through.
- 24:26Now there's one, there's one kind of behemoth on my list that
- 24:30I've got to talk about. And for me, it's Moppy Leon.
- 24:36You look at Barcelona, you look at the, the, you know, the
- 24:38international stuff in the Champions league #1 progressive
- 24:42passes this season. You know, her free kicks just
- 24:46off the charts, the corners, what she's able to do
- 24:50defensively. She just doesn't you know, she's
- 24:53she's she's just never the weak link.
- 24:55You know, like and and she just is her effectiveness touches so
- 25:00many different parts of the pitch.
- 25:03Cannot have a conversation without talking about Mapi Leon
- 25:06and and and strongly considering is this a player that has to be
- 25:10here again, We got to we got to win this one.
- 25:12We need we need this one. We cannot we cannot go come out
- 25:16of here and not walk away with three points.
- 25:18So what are we talking about? What are we looking at?
- 25:21We're going to have to, and I'm sure there's more names.
- 25:23I've got six or seven that I want to kind of knock through,
- 25:26but were there any huge ones? And out of shit, now that I'm
- 25:30saying it, there's one other I think we got to own a Bossier.
- 25:33What? Why don't we just lump those two
- 25:35together? Because those are those have to
- 25:37be in consideration. So Ona Botte was the left back
- 25:42on FIFA FIFA's Best 11 this year in 2025.
- 25:46At least that's how they, they listed it out.
- 25:48And for anybody who's interested, I'm sure most, most
- 25:51people know, you know, they're back.
- 25:54They did it back for FIFA and it was Botte Patetas Williamson
- 25:59bronze. And so I, I want to shout out,
- 26:03and this will come as a surprise to nobody, I want to shout out
- 26:06Olga Carmona. And look, Ona Botte has been
- 26:09awesome. I don't think there's a lot to
- 26:13discuss, you know, to argue there.
- 26:15And Batte has better attacking stats than Olga Carmona.
- 26:19But in Liga F last year, if if like when I'm operating in this
- 26:24window, August to August, Carmona had nearly three times
- 26:28as many tackles as Battier. She had more than double the
- 26:32tackles one as Battier. She had more than two times the
- 26:35blocks. She had more than three times
- 26:37the interceptions. She had more than three times
- 26:39the clearances. And if you want to talk about a
- 26:42moment, Olga Carmona opening up against Portugal in the EUR, the
- 26:49pinpoint accuracy of the ball, the pass right to Astaire, who,
- 26:53yes, had a lot to do, had to chest the ball up and then have
- 26:56that amazing turn to score the goal.
- 26:58But I mean, for that Astaire opener versus Portugal, for
- 27:01Carmona to be the one playing the ball in to get the assists,
- 27:05Hell of a moment for my pal Olga, one of my favorite players
- 27:08of all time. I like it.
- 27:10I love those stats too, because those were surprising because I
- 27:14I think to me, I I've got battier like in a a notch, maybe
- 27:181 notch above Carmona, especially recently and we're
- 27:21looking at 25 for sure. But I think yeah, tough, tough
- 27:26to argue. And I think Olga definitely had
- 27:28the moments and you know, we can week out.
- 27:32I mean her time at PSG, though, really kind of kind of clouds
- 27:37what's happening because I think things have gone there.
- 27:41I want to throw a couple more names at you just to make sure
- 27:44that we're mentioning everybody. Sandy Baltimore, I think he's
- 27:49got to be in the conversation offensively.
- 27:52Super dynamic cover of not the not the same defensive, you
- 27:55know, you know, profile, but she is playing back there.
- 28:00And then you look at the end of yourself, Kayla Sharples, at
- 28:02least on it, Terry McKeon and end of the defender of the year.
- 28:07I think all deserving all at the same level.
- 28:09Like these are all really, really great players that were
- 28:12deciding against Katie McCabe, Emily Fox.
- 28:14I think I didn't mention those two Lily real as well.
- 28:18Lot just the talent defensively is like crazy.
- 28:22It's almost impossible putting together a global list and
- 28:25trying to land on four, let alone 3.
- 28:28But where do we go from here? How do we how do we whittle this
- 28:30down? Let's make some final decisions.
- 28:34I mean, I think if you have Jess Carter and Sharpie buddy, you
- 28:37know, I trust you on this. So what do you think about, what
- 28:41do you think? Think about Carter at left back,
- 28:43Williamson at center back, Bronze at right back.
- 28:46You could you could realistically play that.
- 28:48I'm pretty sure in some attacking formations, Serena
- 28:52Wiegmann has played that. And what's the worst that could
- 28:55happen? Somebody could yell at us for
- 28:57having too many English players in our best 11.
- 29:01I haven't heard of that before. So I mean, I guess that could be
- 29:05the case. The only push back I'll say is
- 29:08are we sure Leah Williamson over Moppie?
- 29:15Beat her in the final beat her in 2 finals.
- 29:21Maybe that is that is that it a scoreboat?
- 29:25I mean it's a little bit of scoreboard on that one.
- 29:28I mean, you know, I, I think Leon is a is a great player,
- 29:31obviously all. Right.
- 29:33Williamson gets a nod. All right, three Lionesses on
- 29:36Kachenberger. That's our defense.
- 29:39All right, let's move up. Let's move up into the midfield
- 29:41where we'll knock through five names.
- 29:44Let's go controlling the ball, buddy, and your wingers are
- 29:48basically extra attackers. We got we got all kinds of
- 29:51options here. Yeah, Head to go head to head's
- 29:54about to be on the swivel. I want to mention this player
- 29:58because talked about this player on our last episode, Pathetici
- 30:02Ghijaro. I think a player that's no,
- 30:09there's no player like potty in the world to me, where, where,
- 30:12where she plays, what she's able to do the the range of of blades
- 30:18of grass, where she's able to be effective.
- 30:21I think to me that she's a one of one.
- 30:23So I think for me, potty has to be in, in, in at least my, my
- 30:2811. Let's see if she makes it into
- 30:29our. 11 buddy, right there with you wasn't wasn't necessarily a
- 30:34sharpie for me. I wasn't going to die.
- 30:35I wasn't, I wasn't going to die on the hill or fight on the
- 30:39hill. As I, as I like to say in my day
- 30:41job, I say we never die on hills, We fight on hills.
- 30:44But yeah, right there with you. Seven goals, 8 assists in League
- 30:49F last season, 5 assists in the Champions League, One goal and
- 30:53one assist in the EUR, which he played every minute but four in
- 30:57that tournament. For Espana, she's in the 99th
- 31:00percentile with 101 passes attempted per 90.
- 31:05And I know maybe some people might roll their eyes and be
- 31:07like oh OK, so she attempts a lot of passes.
- 31:09She completes 86.2% of those passes, putting her in the 96th
- 31:13percentile. Compared to everybody else
- 31:15playing in the best competitions in the world, she's in the 99th
- 31:17percentile and progressive passes per 90 in the 93rd
- 31:21percentile in both aerial balls 1 and interceptions.
- 31:24She is a metronome. And I want to point this out
- 31:27because I think there is something, there is something
- 31:29important about this. And I and I make this defense of
- 31:32Scottie Pippen in the NBA again, I'm going to do another thing.
- 31:36Yes, Pottery gets to play with at least one multiple time
- 31:41Bollandor winner at a time. And sometimes she is flanked by
- 31:45two multiple time Bollandor winners and that is a benefit to
- 31:49her. But also she has to play with
- 31:53those two players and she has to figure out how to still be great
- 31:57and still play within a system and still maximize her talents
- 32:02while understanding the superlative talent around her.
- 32:06And so I for her moment that I want to pick out against Germany
- 32:10in that semi final, she completed 109 of 125 passes
- 32:16versus Germany. She led the squad in touches,
- 32:19progressive passes, carries and was tied for first in both
- 32:22interceptions and shots. And I think it's a great, great
- 32:26shout by you that there are not a lot of players in the world
- 32:29who can do that. And that's kind of floats into
- 32:31your concept of there might not be a player in the world like
- 32:34her. Yeah, it's a great point that
- 32:38you mentioned about playing with those Bondur winners and having
- 32:44to deliver for them, having to produce for them.
- 32:48And not only does bother you like meet the level, but she's
- 32:52right at the level. Like, damn, you'd never feel
- 32:54like it's only part that you could like do a little better
- 32:58job getting the ball to Alexia or Donna or Vicki or whoever's
- 33:01up there. It it's always it's.
- 33:03Just a good job. You know, so it's like I mean to
- 33:06absolutely dependable. I think that to me, she she was
- 33:08one of my locks. I had her absolute sharpie.
- 33:12I'm not sure who's leapfrogging her.
- 33:13You can make maybe a same coffee case, but there's just no, I
- 33:18don't know. I didn't really have any.
- 33:19I, I I couldn't make a strong argument for anybody in that
- 33:22spot. I'm so glad that you mentioned
- 33:25Sam Coffey. She was obviously on my list.
- 33:27The statistical resume is just not close.
- 33:31So that's what kind of let me to to leave her off.
- 33:34But I do want to say because because it's hard to quantify
- 33:39all of Sam Coffey's impact through stats.
- 33:43Jordan Angeli, who does work for CBS and you know, calls a lot of
- 33:48NWSL matches, had a take that I still to this day remain jealous
- 33:52of after the EUR. And you know, I think USA played
- 33:57a couple friendlies during that EUR month.
- 33:59And then Coffee was playing great for the Thorns, where
- 34:02Jordan Angeli said, I think Sam Coffee, she said something to
- 34:05the effect of Sam Coffey might be the most informed player in
- 34:10the world right now. And I was so jealous of that
- 34:13take. I was like, that's a great,
- 34:14that's such a great take coming off the EUR.
- 34:17We're like, obviously we're excited about that football.
- 34:19We love it. But Sam Coffey just had a run in
- 34:22the middle of that NWSL season where she was disrupting
- 34:25everything the opponent was trying to do and also kind of
- 34:28quarterbacking so much of what Portland was doing that she had
- 34:33a great year. And I take nothing away from
- 34:35her. It's just hard to to make a case
- 34:37for her over some of these other midfielders.
- 34:41Yeah, I agree with that. And I think, yeah, I mean, so, I
- 34:44mean, I, I've got coffee jotted down for sure.
- 34:47And was it was in that conversation and he was just
- 34:49right out the the pottery box. So assuming pottery is one of
- 34:52our 5 or what else do we want to do in this midfield?
- 34:58I mean, I think Mariana Caldente should be in there.
- 35:02Look, nine goals, 5 assists for Arsenal and the WSL.
- 35:05That's that's fine. Seven goals, 2 assists in the
- 35:08Champions League winning campaign for your Gunners.
- 35:12I want to point this out as her moment.
- 35:14And I know, look, it was hard to watch.
- 35:16Not hard, not difficult, like to watch with our eyes, but like
- 35:19difficult to find. Is that in the second qualifying
- 35:23round of that Champions League? Your Gunners lost the first
- 35:28match to BK Hackett, then you guys go to London and then
- 35:33Leavalti scored the equalizer on aggregate to pull it to 1 to one
- 35:38who gets the go ahead goal. It couldn't be anybody other
- 35:41than Mariona Caltente to do that.
- 35:43She brings the champion and you had said it at the time she she
- 35:47brought the Champions League winning culture from Barcelona
- 35:51over to Arsenal and she was just magnificent throughout that
- 35:56Champions League stretch. I just think like if I if I had
- 36:01a 5 player midfield I would like to have Mariona Caldente on the
- 36:06right wing. Love it.
- 36:09Zero argument there. Monster year for Mariona, we
- 36:13joked at obviously. Three straight Champions League
- 36:15trophies for Caldente. A dynasty unto herself for sure.
- 36:20But I was also played huge in Spain and I don't think you can
- 36:25really discount, obviously one of the best friends of the show,
- 36:28Leanne Sanderson, a former Arsenal, you know, stand out
- 36:33Champions League winner in her own right.
- 36:37You need a player like Cal Dente to take you from, you know, a
- 36:42content AWSL contender to a champion of Europe.
- 36:46Now, obviously, you know, are they going to be a perennial?
- 36:48You know, are they going to be the final every year of the
- 36:50Champions League? Probably not.
- 36:52Are they going to be in the periphery?
- 36:53Probably. And that's because you get a
- 36:57player like Cal Dente who shows up and it's like, no, no, no,
- 37:02no, no, no, we're going to play this team.
- 37:05Is it? This is just a team like we're
- 37:06A-Team and we've got all these things that we can do that
- 37:10they're going to have trouble with.
- 37:12And her impact, You cannot. I mean, I feel like such a dumb
- 37:16ass because I was like, all right, Cal Dente, all right.
- 37:19And it was the same Lucy Brown situation.
- 37:22OK, Barcelona moves on. What does that mean?
- 37:24Does that mean that this is a player past their prime and
- 37:27we're not really sure what to expect?
- 37:28You certainly see that with some players when they move on.
- 37:31But I, I, my expectations were fairly low around Caldente.
- 37:36I wasn't sure how she was going to fit and just made me look
- 37:40like an absolute dummy because she has been unbelievable and
- 37:46she has raised the level of pretty much everyone that's one
- 37:50to two passes away from her on the pitch.
- 37:53Like everybody is just playing better, more connected, playing
- 37:57a brand of Mariana ball that is just working.
- 38:00And we saw it worked on the the stretch for the last season.
- 38:03We'll see if they can recapture some of that.
- 38:06But when you zoom out, none of this happens without Cal Dente.
- 38:09And I think that's that's a huge testament to to her as a player
- 38:12and as a leader. Yeah, and I thought it was one
- 38:16of the picks that the FIFA Best 11 got absolutely right.
- 38:18They player up at right wing in the attacking in their 443 or
- 38:23probably 433. But I figure if we're going to
- 38:26do this 352 business, part of the reason was I was because I
- 38:31thought we needed to get Mariona in there.
- 38:34Love it. OK, I'm just going to nominate
- 38:39the Bondor winner. Ayton Obama T Best player in the
- 38:43world. It's tough to argue.
- 38:46But at at worst in the, you know, at the one of the best
- 38:51players in the world where I don't think you can say it,
- 38:53there's no player better than Beaumonti.
- 38:55It's got to be in there and also had a big season for Barcelona
- 38:59and for Spain. I feel comfortable part of the
- 39:02Mariona Itana as three of the five, unless you were you were
- 39:07thinking something different. Absolutely not.
- 39:10I have I have Caldente on the right wing midfielder and then I
- 39:13have and then I have Bulma T as the right center midfielder.
- 39:18I mean, it would it might be easier for me to tell you what
- 39:21what metrics that she's not in the 99th percentile in, but
- 39:24she's in the 99th. She Yeah, exactly.
- 39:28She's in the 99th percentile in shot creating actions per 90,
- 39:32which I just want to say this one, 6.38 shot creating actions
- 39:36per 90 and then 99th percentile in non penalty goals, non
- 39:41penalty XG shots, progressive carries, touches in the
- 39:44attacking penalty area, progressive passes received.
- 39:47She had twelve goals, 6 assists in League F, three goals, 4
- 39:50assists in the UEFA Women's Champions League, two goals and
- 39:53an assist in the EUR. And if you want to talk about a
- 39:55moment she beat on Katrin Berger in that semi final with just an
- 40:00just a very clever shot to send Spain to the final.
- 40:04Like you said, she's the best player in the world.
- 40:06It'd be foolish to have a best 11 without her.
- 40:09I love you calling back that, that moment in the EUR where she
- 40:13beats Burger near Post because that was just a best versus best
- 40:18situation. And we got another version of
- 40:21that you mentioned at the top, Marta versus Ann Kutchenberger,
- 40:25Gotham versus Orlando in the playoffs.
- 40:27I love when those the matchups come down to that our best
- 40:31versus your best in a moment where it's like, wow, we're
- 40:33going to we're actually going to see it like, you know, because
- 40:35in the preview, that's what you do.
- 40:37Oh, Marta on one side, burger on the other world.
- 40:39But then you get to see on the bitch and in that moment on the
- 40:42EUR where Boma T slides went past burger, another one of
- 40:45those moments, you know, where he's like, wow, you actually the
- 40:47two faces on the graphic. It actually came down to those
- 40:50two and Boma. Very cool.
- 40:55Now is where it gets interesting.
- 40:58All right. Because we got three of our five
- 41:02and I've got, I've got at least six names for these two spots
- 41:10that I'm not sure we need to look at all six, you know, under
- 41:15a microscope, but all all deserving of at least a look.
- 41:23How how do you want to handle this?
- 41:25Well, how many more do you have that are in that you had in
- 41:29contention for your next two spots in contention, in serious
- 41:35contention, I'm sure you had a lot of.
- 41:36Names, yeah. I mean, really, I think I have
- 41:39the two that I think I like, but I could be talked off them.
- 41:42Do you have any Sharpies left? Not in the midfield.
- 41:46I have two Sharpies and both because we're going through 52,
- 41:49Actually, both Sharpies got shoved up up top.
- 41:54OK. So I have no.
- 41:56Other sharpies in my midfield. Who do you feel?
- 41:59So if we want to feel field a left wing midfielder and a left
- 42:02center midfielder, who do you like most on your list?
- 42:12It's going to be hard again, if we're going to bottle up a 2025
- 42:18and get everybody in the kit and go out there and win a game,
- 42:23it's going to be hard for me to be like, there's a player better
- 42:26than Melchi du Marnay, like love it.
- 42:28There's a player I'd rather put out there and I'd rather and I'd
- 42:32and I'd put Melchi du Marnay on the bench in favor of this
- 42:35player. It's I can't think of that
- 42:37player Du Marnay fearless. I mean dynamite in her boot.
- 42:43Creative has the has everything to me has everything like, you
- 42:48know, if she just stays on this track, she's on the, you know,
- 42:52best 510 players in the world track right now.
- 42:55So and had had an awesome year and in the Champions it
- 42:58continues to produce. And for Lyon, we talked about
- 43:03this last episode. Lyon's decide, you know,
- 43:07overflowing with talent, but they have, you know, uneven
- 43:11performances and more often than not, it kind of feels like Du
- 43:15Mornay is the player that match in match out.
- 43:20You you already know what's going to like get produced from
- 43:23that spot. Now is Chewinga going to cash in
- 43:26off of Du Mornay, chance or Koto or Haggerberg or he's or, you
- 43:30know, like, but you know, the chance of going to create it.
- 43:33I I I don't think there's a better mid.
- 43:35I don't think there's a midfielder that I'd rather have
- 43:37And, and we still have another midfielder spot, you know, to
- 43:40fill and I think Du Mornay for me has to be one of the five.
- 43:44South du Mornay in last season, Which would, you know, in FIFA's
- 43:49mind, would would count toward this, this award?
- 43:53In the Premier League, du Mornay had sixteen goals, 7 assists
- 43:58just in the Premier League, and then in the Champions League she
- 44:00added another six goals and two assists.
- 44:03In this year's Champions League, she already has four goals in
- 44:06six matches. She has two goals, 4 assists in
- 44:10her nine appearances. Can I?
- 44:12Add one more thing real quick, Really good because you
- 44:16mentioned those four goals in the Champions League, 2 of them
- 44:19versus Arsenal right at at Arsenal.
- 44:22That's right in a 21V. So this is not a player that
- 44:27scores bullshit goals when they're up when Leon's up five
- 44:30to one and she scores two goals in the 85th and 89th minute.
- 44:33This is a player that went to Arsenal with Leon down one nil,
- 44:39scores two goals within inside 25 minutes, and they went 2:00
- 44:43to 1:00. And it's on the heels of just
- 44:45her spectacular ceiling as a player and her just audacity to
- 44:51just fucking be like, I don't just like, fuck this team, but
- 44:54we're going to, we're going to dominate this team and we
- 44:56dominate every team. I love it, I'm into it.
- 45:01And now you, You. So let's put her in.
- 45:05Let's make du Mornay our left center midfielder.
- 45:10I think if, if you're comfortable with her playing
- 45:14that position, I think you know, the the more in the center of
- 45:17the park we can have her, I think the the better off we'd
- 45:19probably be. So, so that puts me in into this
- 45:23situation where I've been kind of waiting to reveal this my
- 45:275:00 that I had. We're all Spaniards.
- 45:32So now, so now I am left to choose for our left wing
- 45:37midfielder. I am left to choose between
- 45:40Claudia Pina and Alexia Putais. And I got to tell you as if
- 45:47we're if we're doing it this way, as as great as Pina was in
- 45:53the Champions League and in the in the 2425 UEFA Women's
- 45:57Champions League, she had ten goals and one assist and was an
- 46:01absolute force of nature in that tournament.
- 46:06I would feel, I would feel relatively ridiculous if I
- 46:10didn't put Alexia Poutaeus on this, on this team.
- 46:13Now you can talk me off it and I totally, I totally understand.
- 46:16But Poutaeus had sixteen goals and 11 assists in league half.
- 46:22She had three goals and four assists in the in the Champions
- 46:26League, another three goals and four assists in the Euros.
- 46:29She's still in contention as the best player alive.
- 46:32I think, you know, after the devastating injuries.
- 46:35And for her moment, she had those two assists versed a
- 46:39surging Italy in the group stage of the EUR.
- 46:43She assisted on the opening goal and the final goal of that
- 46:46match. And I was going back and looking
- 46:48at my notes and I rewatched the highlights and she was even on
- 46:53Spain, she was way the best player on the field.
- 46:57Like by by enough of a margin where I was like, you can't be
- 47:01the best player on the field by that big of a margin when you're
- 47:04playing on an All Star team. And she still was.
- 47:08She's unbelievable. I mean, definitely on my short,
- 47:11short, short list. Can I throw some names at you
- 47:17that I had? Of course.
- 47:18And we had left center mid, so this is a left attacking
- 47:22midfielder. Yeah, I mean, we could.
- 47:24I mean, you could put Puteus on the wing.
- 47:26You could you, I mean, you could put Du Mornay on the wing too.
- 47:29Like, I mean, I don't think we got to.
- 47:31So medium wise, I'm going to throw some names at you that I
- 47:34had that I thought were worth mentioning from a defensive
- 47:40standpoint. I know we kind of zoomed past
- 47:42this, but I thought UE from City took a new skin.
- 47:48Are our names that we I think we have to kind of mention couple
- 47:51of the names in the midfield. Marta.
- 47:55I mean this it's weird if we need to win a if we need to win
- 47:59a match and obviously Marta raises the 2025 NWSL
- 48:04championship, you know, makes a run with Brazil, you know, over
- 48:07the summer and then you know, kind of like performs, you know,
- 48:11in some in some spots there maybe a stretch, but I think
- 48:15definitely worth a mention. Roosevelt kind of like re
- 48:20entering the US women's actual team core conversation, you
- 48:25know, game winner, end of Brazil championship.
- 48:28Got to mention her Kendra Dali absolute beast, you know, coming
- 48:33over to the end of Brazil leading San Diego wave and
- 48:36Olivia military then says, you know, midfielder of the year.
- 48:41I'm not sure. I mean, when you, when you
- 48:44mention those 5 Spanish players, you could drop Olivia Moultrie.
- 48:48I feel like it's any one of those spots with, with any four
- 48:51of those other players. And you don't miss a beat
- 48:55because she's got the IQ skills are are in the neighborhood.
- 49:01And then like basically her moment potential is at the
- 49:04level, if not higher than some of these other players because
- 49:07she is absolutely capable of elevating, you know, when the
- 49:12situation calls for it, which is phenomenal to say, you know, to
- 49:16for a player at that age. I think that's all that's all
- 49:21fair. I would all all our Spanish pals
- 49:25direct your ire at Dino for for saying that she is relatively
- 49:30Olivia Moultrie is teenager Olivia Moultrie.
- 49:34Is it? It's in in the ballpark of
- 49:37Alexia Patias. Hey, hey.
- 49:38Well. We're going to be 2027 will be
- 49:41here very, very soon and Olivia Moultrie will be heavily
- 49:45featured in what happens in 2027 and let let it happen.
- 49:50Some of these European players come see what?
- 49:53Come see what we're about. Because I listen, I know it
- 49:57feels weird to say, but shout out to the XOG guys.
- 50:01They were talking about this. And it's so funny because it's
- 50:04like our coach of the year, you, you mentioned black at the time.
- 50:06Rob Gayle, our coach of the year gets fired at me, of course, but
- 50:10unjust. Everything Portland did was on
- 50:13the heels. Everything, every single thing
- 50:17was on the heels of Sam Coffey and Olivia Moultrie.
- 50:20The the combination of those two players just wrecking
- 50:22everything, you know, and that's in the end of USL.
- 50:26I, I firmly believe, and maybe you maybe let me cheat and say
- 50:29we'll drop these as a tandem. You drop that tandem into any
- 50:32team in Europe. You put them on the lowest team
- 50:34in Europe and they'll go and wreck a Barcelona afternoon or a
- 50:38Chelsea afternoon or a Leon afternoon.
- 50:40Even if you only have those two players, they're that good.
- 50:45Man, you're on. You got some heaters right now.
- 50:48No, that's you. I mean, look, I'm high on those
- 50:51players. I'm high on the.
- 50:53Yeah, I'm really high on those players too.
- 50:55But I mean, you know, if we're talking about player versus
- 50:58player, you know, I mean, who has The Who has the skill size,
- 51:04speed, smarts, combination of Putaeus, like I mean, Alexia's,
- 51:08I mean we're talking about a two time Balandor winner here.
- 51:11And I understand the Balandor is not the end all be all, but like
- 51:13we're like, what doesn't she do? I'm not, I'm not arguing
- 51:17Moultrie over Alexia, you know, because we, we still have some
- 51:21spots, you know, I mean, I'm just, I'm just mentioning the
- 51:25names that I had listed alongside Alexia.
- 51:27I'm not making the argument, but you know, I feel like it's worth
- 51:31it's worth discussing. Now I am going to get a little
- 51:35spicier. I had Claudia Pina as one of my
- 51:39locks at forward because she came in, you know, spelled some
- 51:45of Padiuello when Padiuello, you know, kind of got a little, you
- 51:48know, went a little sideways little bit and then obviously
- 51:50has the injury. Pina can play everywhere,
- 51:52anywhere, but got a ton of minutes on that left hand side
- 51:57play the 10 minutes as a reserve coming in for Bariuello on the
- 52:00left hand side. And I just think shout out to
- 52:05our guy MLS architect. Hopefully he's still listening
- 52:07at the 52 minute mark, who I think has predicted Pina as his
- 52:10bondor winner next year. I'm I'm fucking with this.
- 52:13Let's go and I'm not going to I'm not going to take any credit
- 52:16for this take. I'm writing, I'm writing shotgun
- 52:19with our guy MLS because I think Pina, she's trending in that
- 52:24direction. We're we're, we're heading
- 52:26there. And I think even when you look
- 52:28at last year, she was there. So to me, I don't know.
- 52:32I don't know that there's a player that I I would stick in
- 52:34that spot and be like, all right, Pina, we don't really
- 52:36need your services today. She's just so devastating.
- 52:40And I, I actually had her and as a lock as one of my forwards,
- 52:45but you know, before I heard about 352.
- 52:47But I think even still, I I think would keep him in.
- 52:50OK, and now FIFA FIFA's best 11, they had Pina as their left
- 52:55midfielder in the 433. But I'm OK, I'm with you.
- 52:58I mean, I referenced Pina's stats.
- 52:59I mean, ten goals, one assist in the 202425 UEFA Women's
- 53:03Champions League. She was an absolute menace out
- 53:04there for my moment for her, I put the the two goal one assist
- 53:11game that she had against Chelsea.
- 53:13Oh, wait a minute, two goal one assist game.
- 53:15Let me double check. Oh yes, that was in 25 minutes
- 53:19in the first leg of the UEFA Women's Champions League semi
- 53:22final to crush Chelsea's spirit to take it to a four to one
- 53:27victory for Barcelona and end Chelsea in that tournament.
- 53:31So if we want to put Pina up top with one of the forwards, I
- 53:35think that's fine. I'm good with that.
- 53:37So would that put our five as going from right to left?
- 53:44Would that be Caldente Bone Mati Patri du Mornay Pouteus?
- 53:52I'm with that five, yeah. Nobody's beating that five, just
- 53:56so you know. We're destroying.
- 53:58We're rolling everybody. It's not competitive.
- 54:02Yeah, you can bring anybody out there.
- 54:05No, that's a monster 5. I already tipped my hand a
- 54:08little bit up top in our 352. I had Peena on one side and then
- 54:17give me DNWSLMVP, bro. There we go.
- 54:20How much Chewinga you talking about doing fucking with this
- 54:24team? Like, no, but he's fucking with
- 54:28this team. Like Chewinga on one side, Peena
- 54:31on the other. That midfield, I don't know, I
- 54:35I'm feeling pretty solid about it.
- 54:37Is there. I'm I'm sure there's I'll I'll
- 54:39give you. Well, let me let me actually hit
- 54:43reverse here, because I I had some names.
- 54:45I don't want to I don't want to like spill, spill any of the
- 54:47beans of of who I was considering.
- 54:50But who did you have? I'm sure you don't have the the
- 54:53same top 2. So who did you have top 2?
- 54:56Well, I had one of my Sharpie players was Tim Watt, Chewinga,
- 55:01the 2025 and 2024 and WSLMVP. Now Chewinga plays primarily on
- 55:08the right. Now Chewinga and PETA, pardon
- 55:11me, they're both right footed. Chewinga like almost exclusively
- 55:16plays on the left. I'm pretty sure she exclusively
- 55:18plays on the left wing. Pina has spent some time over on
- 55:20the right wing. So if we want to do this,
- 55:22they're not exactly wingers if we just have two forwards up top
- 55:26so we can play them both. I would play Pina on the right.
- 55:28I would play TE MO on the left because she's more comfortable
- 55:31there as far as I know. But chewing it was sharpied in
- 55:34Golden Boot winner. And I understand, you know,
- 55:36whether we're doing the August to August or the year, some
- 55:40people might be like, you can't really count last NWSL season,
- 55:44the 2024 FIFA Best 11. And no disrespect to obviously
- 55:50either of these two players, two players we have talked about and
- 55:53fawned over for a long time, Selma Betty Ualo and Carolina
- 55:57Graham Hansen were the two up top.
- 55:58They did a 442 last year. And look, I I think about this
- 56:05with like NB AM VP and like some other awards, we just can't keep
- 56:10having FIFA Best Elevens and not have Tim watch chewing get in
- 56:14it. She has to be in it.
- 56:15She has to be that's. Stupid.
- 56:17Yeah, she's the she's the Golden Boot winner twice in a row, the
- 56:19MVP twice in a row in one of the world's best leagues.
- 56:23This year she had fifteen goals, 3 assists for maybe the greatest
- 56:27team in the history of the league that set the points
- 56:29record. She's an offense unto herself.
- 56:32If you want to count like in that August window from August
- 56:35to 2024, you could add 9 more goals onto her resume for this
- 56:40this 2025 year. And I just don't, I, I just do
- 56:44not want to see any more best elevens without her while she's
- 56:49on this run. And for a moment I was trying to
- 56:52think of like what her moment was.
- 56:55She just had multiple stretches throughout the season where she
- 56:58was at least scoring one goal per game, like 5 games in a row
- 57:03in a league where it's nearly impossible to do that.
- 57:08Yeah, I keep thinking about the the two nil victory of the the
- 57:12the flavor of the year for KC. One of the two was also was
- 57:15always chewing and it was usually the second one to kind
- 57:18of slam the door. I fully agree with you, man.
- 57:21I think you can't take a list seriously that doesn't include
- 57:24chewing a a player that kind of has dominated the end of your
- 57:28cell. And we talked.
- 57:29About the last episode, when you see Alyssa Thompson go over to
- 57:33Chelsea and do what she does stand out, jump off the screen
- 57:38athletically. The production's there.
- 57:42Thompson is not until we go she she might be two levels below
- 57:49the MVP time of showing if we're if we're really and I love
- 57:52Alyssa Thompson. I was like I was driving the
- 57:55bandwagon for Alyssa MVP end of yourself earlier this year.
- 57:59I floated it past the end. She wasn't really playing ball,
- 58:01but I gave it a shot. But you look at what Alyssa
- 58:06Thompson is doing at Chelsea, if you swap out Alyssa Thompson for
- 58:10Temuchewinga, what are we talking about?
- 58:13Come on man. Like, like this is, I mean, it
- 58:17wouldn't even look like the same sport really.
- 58:21And, and, and, and it's not really, it's no knock on any
- 58:24specific player, but Thompson looks so fast and so dynamic at
- 58:29Chelsea. And when I tell you that when I
- 58:31tell our European and global watchers that Temuchewinga was 2
- 58:35levels better than this, 2 levels faster, more dynamic,
- 58:40more dangerous, more productive, like it's real shit.
- 58:45And you mentioned it back-to-back MVPS like that's
- 58:48that's rarefied air. And I mean, let me Temple was my
- 58:55second Sharpie. Like on names.
- 58:59First name was just Carter. Just Carter just, I mean the
- 59:02unassailable 2025. Right after that, Tema Tawinga
- 59:05was my was my, the second name on my list in terms of Sharpie.
- 59:09Botany was third. Pina was fourth.
- 59:12Itana was fifth. I like that Chewinga was my, was
- 59:17my #1 as soon as I saw the release of the FIFA Best 11.
- 59:21And I know I've I've done this where, you know, again, I'm
- 59:25going to, I'll do this quickly for I don't mean to bore our
- 59:27pals who might not care that much about the NBA, but like
- 59:30people will say, like, oh, well, the last year doesn't matter for
- 59:33this year's MVP. It's like, well, then how do you
- 59:36account for like voter fatigue and like years that like Michael
- 59:40Jordan should have been the should have been the MVP of the
- 59:42league. LeBron James, there were years
- 59:44he should have been the MVP of the league, but like those
- 59:47didn't count. So like when players roll over
- 59:50to like several consecutive great seasons, why doesn't that
- 59:56count like in the inverse of like, oh, you know, this person
- 1:00:00kind of came out of nowhere, whatever, right?
- 1:00:02Like there's like a lot of like mental math that people are
- 1:00:05doing with this. And the moment that FIFA best 11
- 1:00:07came out and obviously their top three were Puteus Russo and Cal
- 1:00:13Dente. I'm not going to I, you know,
- 1:00:15don't disrespect any of those players.
- 1:00:17Like I I put Puteus and Cal Dente.
- 1:00:20Like in my best 11 and Alessia Russo was amazing in the EUR and
- 1:00:25was and was great in the Champions League.
- 1:00:27But I the my first gut reaction of looking that at that was I
- 1:00:33don't want to see this. I don't want to see a best 11
- 1:00:35without chewing gut. She's without question one of
- 1:00:39the absolute best players in the world.
- 1:00:42Your your point about telling European football fans that
- 1:00:46Tamwa Chiwinga is better than Alyssa Thompson.
- 1:00:48And look what Alyssa Thompson is doing.
- 1:00:50Tamwa Chiwinga is better than her sister and her sister's
- 1:00:53awesome like she is. She is undoubtedly one of the
- 1:01:00most dangerous scoring threats in the universe today.
- 1:01:05I, I don't think this is hyperbole to say, and this is I,
- 1:01:09I promise you, if you're not in the US, then you're not up on
- 1:01:14the end episode. This is going to sound stupid,
- 1:01:16but I promise you this is true that Kansas City current would
- 1:01:21not trade Tamochuinga for any player in the world.
- 1:01:25I told him about Monti, Alexia, Lamar, James Kaiseto.
- 1:01:29You're paid. Take your pick by you like
- 1:01:31peanut. There's there's no player that
- 1:01:34the Kansas City current would say, I'll trade you Tamochuinga
- 1:01:37for that player. And it's not it's not
- 1:01:41sentimental when you say she's an offense unto herself.
- 1:01:45She is an absolute offense unto herself.
- 1:01:48You could stick her there and then figure out everything else
- 1:01:50around her and you're probably going to win.
- 1:01:53Like she is unbelievable like, and to say she belongs on that
- 1:01:59list is like an understatement. It's an it's an absolute
- 1:02:02understatement. If she's not on your list, you
- 1:02:06are not informed. I'm being very gentle and saying
- 1:02:11if she's not on year 11, you are not watching.
- 1:02:14You're not watching. You're not watching all of it.
- 1:02:16You're just not there was. I don't reference this very
- 1:02:21often. I don't know if I've ever
- 1:02:22referenced this on the program. Maybe once or twice.
- 1:02:27So my college tuition payment plan was I joined the United
- 1:02:31States military for four years. This is what great of a this is
- 1:02:33how great of a country we live in, guys.
- 1:02:35So for somebody of my economic stature growing up, I needed to
- 1:02:39join, give four years of my life to the United States military,
- 1:02:42the Navy to be specific to, to make sure I could afford a
- 1:02:46college education. And there was a saying in the
- 1:02:49military, in the Navy specifically, where they would
- 1:02:52talk about like some rule or something and they would say if
- 1:02:57you didn't do it this way, you're wrong.
- 1:03:00And that's what you reminded me of right there of IF101 chewing
- 1:03:04is not in your best 11. You're wrong.
- 1:03:08I mean am I wrong? No, I don't think you are.
- 1:03:11Like, and and I'm not going to say, you know, I'm not going to
- 1:03:14go say this about my 9th pick. They're really all the way down.
- 1:03:17Like, you know, I'm not going to get, you know, up in arms or
- 1:03:19adamant, but but dude, come on, like.
- 1:03:24She's. Not on your list.
- 1:03:25You're just not watching. You cannot be watching and be
- 1:03:28like that player. She's not so good.
- 1:03:32It's not possible. All right, so with all that
- 1:03:36said, you you had Tema up top. That leaves you with one one
- 1:03:41free spot. Who else do you have in this
- 1:03:42spot? You'd be shocked to find I I
- 1:03:45feel like I can defend this. Senior gaps at the links.
- 1:03:54A second. Hold on a second.
- 1:03:57This isn't homerism. I'm glad we're at the hour mark.
- 1:04:00This isn't homerism. This isn't just me rocking with
- 1:04:04our friends in Bergen, Norway. Tell me how this sounds.
- 1:04:08I talked about Alexia Potea's having sixteen goals and 11
- 1:04:11assists. How does 15 goals and 14 assists
- 1:04:15suit you while SK Brian marches to the top Syrian title?
- 1:04:20No, she senior gallops at #3 in the league in goals, tied for
- 1:04:24first in assists. That sound good?
- 1:04:26I think that's pretty good. She made a star turn in the EUR
- 1:04:31you want to talk about. She had one absolutely
- 1:04:34incredible performance stacked on top of several other very
- 1:04:38good performances. My moment for the Lynx?
- 1:04:41Two goals, 2 assists versus Iceland, where she stamped
- 1:04:44herself on the global stage as a budding superstar.
- 1:04:51Oh my God, I mean I you left me speechless.
- 1:04:58You want to win game for your life?
- 1:05:00Get the links out there buddy. What's up?
- 1:05:03I can't argue with that. That's the honestly, that's the
- 1:05:06best argument that you go with game for your life.
- 1:05:08I just it's it's an argument because there's nobody that's
- 1:05:12playing harder than seeing you gobset in a game for there's
- 1:05:15something that's playing harder in a game for nothing to be
- 1:05:17honest. Also true.
- 1:05:18You could just be playing for a bag of skills and you just will
- 1:05:21just put you in the hospital if need be.
- 1:05:24I love the extremely spirited. Excited to see what Gobset can
- 1:05:31do here in Tottenham. I mean, I don't know.
- 1:05:33I don't I don't really have any pushback.
- 1:05:35I can't really. And I don't have another player
- 1:05:37in this spot because I had peanut up top Potema, but I
- 1:05:43can't hit a couple. It's such a dummy.
- 1:05:45I thought when you, when you said no homers, Amir, I was
- 1:05:48sure. I was sure that you were going
- 1:05:51to go. Khadijah Bunny Shaw who?
- 1:05:54Monster Hard. I didn't I didn't like not
- 1:06:00having Khadija Banja in one of those spots.
- 1:06:03Eva Pyor, same situation, Mr. Gonzalez, same situation.
- 1:06:06Part of a Benda who is who is we lost the the last portion of
- 1:06:11Benda's end episode season to injury.
- 1:06:14But from what we saw the season, what we saw last year, like in
- 1:06:18the conversation, one of the best number nines in the world,
- 1:06:21one of the best attacking players in the world, full stop.
- 1:06:26Ton ton of talent. Do we?
- 1:06:30I can't believe I mean 15 goals, 14.
- 1:06:35Assists and there's nothing to sneeze at for the title winning
- 1:06:38team. No, no, I don't think you are.
- 1:06:40No, I don't think you are. I I think other people are going
- 1:06:43to be like, all right, dude, the top series is a good league.
- 1:06:45And she had fifteen goals and 14 assists.
- 1:06:49So what? What?
- 1:06:50What did we end? What I do with Pina?
- 1:06:54Not up, not in your midfield, right?
- 1:06:56No, I put I put Pina. I had her as my left wing
- 1:07:00midfielder on my personal 11. But I like yeah, but I like your
- 1:07:04addition of du Mornay in the midfield.
- 1:07:06And then I'm like, if I have to choose between Pina and Galp
- 1:07:10set, you know, as much as much as I admire the Lynx as a great
- 1:07:14player, a budding superstar, she will get her FIFA best elevens
- 1:07:18or her into the pardon me, her into the channel best lives much
- 1:07:21more prestigious than the FIFA Best 11.
- 1:07:23She'll get her ITC best Elevens in the future.
- 1:07:26I think Pina's performance in the Champions League, I think
- 1:07:31she has to be in. All right, man, did we do it?
- 1:07:36I think we did it. That's an 11 Buddy 352.
- 1:07:39Let's go. Back to time, Back to front.
- 1:07:41Alan Kochenberger, Lucy Bronze, Leo Williamson, Jess Carter.
- 1:07:46Spot the Ghiharo Marion Caldente Eitana Bomati Alexi Potayas
- 1:07:52Melchi du Mornin, Melchi du Mornin Temo Chuwinga Claudio
- 1:07:56Pina. Spot the ball.
- 1:07:59Tell us, tell us when we take off, who's beating our team?
- 1:08:02What do you want? Just.
- 1:08:04I mean, who's showing up? Who's showing up to play this
- 1:08:07team? You don't want those problems.
- 1:08:10It's this is when people like they like to make their little
- 1:08:13jokes like whoa, I'll give the 2 examples in college football
- 1:08:18back, back in the mid twenty 10s, people when a college team
- 1:08:21would be playing well, they would say, we want Bama.
- 1:08:23And I would always say no, you don't.
- 1:08:25And now like with, with the Ohio State Buckeyes, people always
- 1:08:28like to make their little jokes about us.
- 1:08:30You don't want those problems. You, you come to find out be
- 1:08:32like, oh, wait a minute, this other team has a lot of good
- 1:08:34players. Maybe I don't want that.
- 1:08:38It's a big talk, It's a big talk.
- 1:08:43Yeah, I didn't even put it together.
- 1:08:45All right. Yeah, we'll, we'll see how it
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- 1:09:38don't make a sharpie big enough for my guy.
- 1:09:41You already know what time it is.
- 1:09:42I hate you bro. What a year.
- 1:09:44What a fucking year for your boys. 2025 I think this is our
- 1:09:48last recording. I'm not going to, I'm not going
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- 1:09:53might happen but what a year. I appreciate you bro.
- 1:09:56None of this possible without you.
- 1:09:58Likewise, man, I think it was a pretty great year.
- 1:10:01I think we had a good run in the EUR ourself.
- 1:10:03We we talked a lot about that in this episode.
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