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AEW Hot Topics | AEW Fright Night Dynamite Preview · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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  Speaker 1: ignition with the AAW fantab Podcast team Fright Night Dynamite
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  Speaker 1: coming up. We're going to talk about it. Let's see
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  Speaker 1: if we get anything right, Let's see what we get wrong,
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  Speaker 1: and let's see if we well are idiots. It's the
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  Speaker 1: best way to put it. I will attest that I
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  Speaker 1: am an idiot. So I'm going to move myself from
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  Speaker 1: that competition. Let's get started. This is Kelson and Well.
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: One of the biggest matches tomorrow night is the Young
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  Speaker 1: Bucks versus Private Party. If Private Party loses this match,
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  Speaker 1: they have to split up by their own stipulation. If
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  Speaker 1: they win, they're the AAW World Tag Team Champions. What
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  Speaker 1: do you guys see going on here in this match?
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  Speaker 1: Let's hear it.
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  Speaker 2: It's time for Tony Kahan to start taking some some
• 1:02
  Speaker 2: some liberties with storytelling. I think, and this is good,
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  Speaker 2: Like the Young Bucks is one of my favorite tag teams,
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  Speaker 2: but I think it's time for them to drop these belts.
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: I have a running theory right now, which I know
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  Speaker 2: it's a it's a pipe dream, but this is how
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  Speaker 2: Kenny Omega and Coda Bhie is they're making their way
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  Speaker 2: back in like they'll interfere. Young Bucks will drop, Kenny
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  Speaker 2: will get his revenge. Private Party is finally getting put over.
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  Speaker 2: They are wildly, wildly talented, and the fact that they
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  Speaker 2: haven't been put owners put over sooner is kind of
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  Speaker 2: a slight to what they brought to the table their
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  Speaker 2: Day one tag team. They've been with the promotion of
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  Speaker 2: the whole time. They've certainly jobbed enough. They put they
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  Speaker 2: put their time in. So I mean, I'm hoping that, uh,
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  Speaker 2: I hope. I'm hoping Private Party goes over.
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  Speaker 3: So Shane, I want to jump on, Shane, I want
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  Speaker 3: to jump on what you were just saying. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think it's gonna be Kenny Omega and Coda Bougie that
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  Speaker 3: get involved in this match, but instead I think it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be the BCC, which is why I'm kind of
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  Speaker 3: thinking this is going to be the main event for
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  Speaker 3: Dynamite tomorrow night, because the BCC storyline has kind of
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  Speaker 3: been that closing angle on Dynamite lately. But if you remember,
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  Speaker 3: it was a few weeks ago, John Moxley just walloped
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  Speaker 3: I think it was Isaiah Cassidy if I remember correctly,
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  Speaker 3: With a freaking hammer. So Moxley, you know, after Private
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  Speaker 3: Party wins the tag team titles, Moxley could come on
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  Speaker 3: almost be like the cheshire Cat, being like, see I
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  Speaker 3: did the right thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, to the Rowland's point, to Rawlins's point. Every time
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  Speaker 1: that the young Bucks have been out, when the BCC
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  Speaker 1: and out, they've done nothing. They've just been spectators. So
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  Speaker 1: maybe that plays in to it. Maybe bACC says, hey, look,
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  Speaker 1: you're just you're the EVPs. You're just standing around. Aren't
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  Speaker 1: you going to defend this company? If you're not going
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  Speaker 1: to defend this company, we will in their own sick way,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead, Barry.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think I think both of you guys are
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  Speaker 4: kind of partially right. I think when everything settles, Private
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  Speaker 4: Party is going to get the straps. It's time, and
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  Speaker 4: if they're going to push Youth, that's that's the team
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  Speaker 4: you want to push in the tag division. For now,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think that. I don't think they're going to
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  Speaker 4: change hands tomorrow night. I think you're onto something with
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  Speaker 4: the interference. There's no way they're going to get split up.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't know if I want to drop it
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  Speaker 4: on a fright night as opposed to full gear. I
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  Speaker 4: think the third the rubber match between them is the money.
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  Speaker 4: But at the same token, I wouldn't be shocked that
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  Speaker 4: BCC does come in and actually interferes to assist private
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  Speaker 4: party to get those belt and that ends up being
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  Speaker 4: the tag team add to that group. And I traced
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  Speaker 4: that all the way back to when Max came out
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  Speaker 4: and did the hammer thing. He told them it was
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  Speaker 4: time for them to change and step up. Next week
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  Speaker 4: they had a new theme song. They've been a little
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  Speaker 4: harder around the edges. I think it'll all tie back
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  Speaker 4: together in my shape or form. I don't know why
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  Speaker 4: I did the circle thing with my.
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  Speaker 1: Well, nobody can see you, not the recording, but the
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  Speaker 1: handsprings or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: Go ahead, Yeah, I think it's going to tie in.
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  Speaker 6: If if the death Riter is what they're being called now,
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  Speaker 6: I guess is that they're going to use that in
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  Speaker 6: a way just to poke the bear a little bit
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  Speaker 6: with the lead and cause them to love and say, hey,
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  Speaker 6: you don't you don't want to get involved with anything.
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  Speaker 6: Then guess what, You don't deserve those belts, so we're
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  Speaker 6: gonna take them off of you somehow.
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  Speaker 5: And I don't think Firefire is going.
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  Speaker 6: To join them because Private Party needs to be their
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  Speaker 6: own entity and do their own their own thing, because
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  Speaker 6: they've been struck in groups forever, you know, for god
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  Speaker 6: knows how long they were stuck with Matt freakin Hardy,
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  Speaker 6: and they need to rebound on their own and this
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  Speaker 6: is the way to do it and get them an edge.
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  Speaker 6: I do want to see someone else in that group
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  Speaker 6: for a trios, but I don't know who. But it's
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  Speaker 6: time for them to show who they are.
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  Speaker 4: With with all due respect, death Writers are a drastic
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  Speaker 4: step up from the Matt Hardy whatever that group was
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  Speaker 4: called back, what was it? The Matt Hardy? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, but I get your point. I think I
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  Speaker 4: think you're you're you're close.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah again.
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  Speaker 3: I think the thing with Moxley's group is Moxley's doing
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  Speaker 3: all these horrible, horrible things. I think in his mind
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  Speaker 3: it's the right thing, because he's trying to light a
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  Speaker 3: fire under the young talents ass and be like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: you guys have been here since day one, and five
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  Speaker 3: years later, where are you? You're nine a better place
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  Speaker 3: than you were from the beginning. So I think that's
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  Speaker 3: kind of his goal, and it starts by getting the
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  Speaker 3: tag team titles onto Private party.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, it's fantasy booking to imagine
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  Speaker 2: Coda and Kenny are coming back.
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  Speaker 8: I don't want to slide back into that being a conversation.
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  Speaker 2: And it makes most sense for the BCC to interfere
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  Speaker 2: because it puts them in a more compait, like a
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  Speaker 2: more commanding position as leaders in aew It dismantles the EVPs.
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: Those are the guys that are supposed to be directly
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  Speaker 2: under you know, Tony Kahan, you know, But I never
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  Speaker 2: want to discount that. Technically, Hangman is a EVP and
• 6:48
  Speaker 2: Kenny is an EVP, and they both have.
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  Speaker 8: Scores to settle with everyone involved with this feud.
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  Speaker 4: So is Hangar and EVP in storyline though?
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  Speaker 8: It's no, yeah, it.
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  Speaker 9: Come it comes down to this.
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  Speaker 10: It's it's too it's too early for the BCC or
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  Speaker 10: whatever they're calling themselves now to get involved with the Eleaite.
• 7:12
  Speaker 10: It's not that time for that storyline yet. I I
• 7:16
  Speaker 10: don't see them coming out and doing anything in that match.
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  Speaker 10: I don't think that's going to be the match.
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  Speaker 9: I think that they're they're kind of playing this up
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  Speaker 9: to me.
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  Speaker 10: It seems like they're kind of playing this up that
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  Speaker 10: Private Party is about to be done.
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  Speaker 9: They're going to split them up.
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  Speaker 10: I think it's going to involve uh, what's his name
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  Speaker 10: the I can't think of his name right now, But
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  Speaker 10: I just don't yes stokely, I don't think it's going
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  Speaker 10: to go. I don't think they're losing it at fright Night.
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  Speaker 10: I just don't see him losing the titles at fright Night.
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  Speaker 10: Maybe it will be something else that causes as a
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  Speaker 10: no contest, so they could do it at the pay
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  Speaker 10: per view. If for some reason, Private Party does win
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  Speaker 10: the titles, I don't see him holding them for long.
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  Speaker 10: I don't see him holding them past full gear. But
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  Speaker 10: I just think I love I love Private Party, but
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  Speaker 10: they have been too low mid for too long that
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  Speaker 10: it's going to take longer than two weeks to build
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  Speaker 10: them up to the point where they should hold the titles.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I think that's part of Moxley's mission.
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  Speaker 10: Is it be can be part of his mission, But
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  Speaker 10: it's not gonna I don't think a lot of fans
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  Speaker 10: are going to buy that type of turnaround in that
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  Speaker 10: short of time.
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  Speaker 9: I just don't see it happening.
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  Speaker 11: I can see it happening, and I think that if
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  Speaker 11: you take Moxley and and the rest of the Death
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  Speaker 11: Writers out of the equation and you make it about
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  Speaker 11: the Young Bucks and Private Party, I think that it's
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  Speaker 11: fright night where a lot of crazy things happen, and
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  Speaker 11: I think that Private Party absolutely is going to beat
• 9:00
  Speaker 11: the Young Bucks. I've been saying this for weeks now
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  Speaker 11: that their moment is coming, and if anything, I really
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  Speaker 11: do have a feeling that if there's going to be interference,
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  Speaker 11: I think it's Kenny and Aboushi, and I don't think
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  Speaker 11: we have to wait for the pay per views to
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  Speaker 11: see it. I think that it's just going to happen unexpectedly.
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  Speaker 11: They've been goofing around and hinting about it way too
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  Speaker 11: much for it not to happen, and it's going to
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  Speaker 11: happen when none of us are thinking about it. So
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  Speaker 11: that's my thing.
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  Speaker 4: I think the fantasy booking aspect of Coda and Kenny
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  Speaker 4: coming in makes a lot of sense when that was pitched,
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  Speaker 4: and that was something that I thought a couple of
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  Speaker 4: weeks ago as well. But a lot of that hinges
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  Speaker 4: on whether Kenny's cleared and how much bumping he can do,
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  Speaker 4: because if they come in and interfere, if he's not
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  Speaker 4: cleared for a few months, like Aw's had. One thing
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  Speaker 4: is it takes too long for them to get to
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  Speaker 4: the payoffs. Could that be a problem. I mean, do
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  Speaker 4: you do you think if he's not cleared and they
• 10:06
  Speaker 4: get a little ahead of ahead of themselves, if they
• 10:08
  Speaker 4: were to were to interfere and cause the Bucks to
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  Speaker 4: lose the straps? Can they bank on those two being available.
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  Speaker 9: They don't even have to show up to cause them
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  Speaker 9: to lose the title.
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  Speaker 10: All they got on the videos.
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  Speaker 4: That's a good point, works, Yeah, or I don't.
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  Speaker 10: Didn't someone didn't somewhere not long ago a Booshi say
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  Speaker 10: that it was going to be a little while before
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  Speaker 10: Kenny was ready. Yeah, I'm thinking that's a world's end
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  Speaker 10: kind of thing or something like that. Is I think
• 10:37
  Speaker 10: it's too early for them go ahead?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you had something to say.
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  Speaker 8: Well, again, I want to put something in perspective.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I've been watching Kenny Omega now for over
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  Speaker 2: a decade, and there is like Kenny is going to
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: go through stages of recovery.
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  Speaker 8: First off, he's going to be up.
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: And running, then he's going to be a ring ready
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: and then he has to be Kenny Omega ring ready.
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  Speaker 8: He's not going to step back in the ring until
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  Speaker 8: he's a to hit all the spots. So he's been
• 11:01
  Speaker 8: like that across his entire career, through every single injury.
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  Speaker 2: And to note on the a Boushie kind of alluding
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  Speaker 2: to them returning to aw you know, last week of
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: Boushie gave a two and a half month timeline for
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: the both of them. You know, Kenny obviously had a
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: potentially career ending you know, diverticulitis lost, you know, twelve
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: inches feet of his lower intestines, that that there's no
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: conceivable reality where he should have retired. Then I think
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: he's coming to back to do his farewell to Harder.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: But that does start with screwing over the young Bucks
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: and getting his revenge.
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  Speaker 4: So do you just have his music hit and then
• 11:38
  Speaker 4: they're like what the heck and the crowd goes crazy
• 11:40
  Speaker 4: and then they get a quick roll up to the
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  Speaker 4: flash pin or.
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  Speaker 12: Something That's what I was thinking.
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  Speaker 4: And then Kenny comes out of the end and he's
• 11:47
  Speaker 4: like haha, so he doesn't have to be like yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I mean that works.
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: With Kenny and a Bushie. They don't have to be
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: in the arena to be effective. Well, let's hear from you,
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: because I know that you came back specifically to say something,
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: so I see what you have to say.
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  Speaker 13: Oh, I just don't feel like working yo, all right,
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  Speaker 13: So I like what I'm hearing. I like the idea.
• 12:12
  Speaker 13: I didn't even think about Kenny returning. I didn't think
• 12:14
  Speaker 13: about Bushi returning.
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: I like it.
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  Speaker 13: I can't top it. But I don't think Private Party
• 12:20
  Speaker 13: are losing this match. I just don't see it happening.
• 12:22
  Speaker 13: It doesn't make sense, Like, why would they completely deflate
• 12:26
  Speaker 13: them at this point?
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  Speaker 8: You know, their their whole story.
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  Speaker 13: Arc up to this point for the last few weeks
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  Speaker 13: is are they good enough? Can they step up? Can
• 12:35
  Speaker 13: they rise to this challenge and actually win the big one?
• 12:38
  Speaker 13: I don't really know what's going to happen. I can't
• 12:41
  Speaker 13: tell you. I do wonder if Stokely is going to
• 12:44
  Speaker 13: play a role in this, because he has been sitting,
• 12:48
  Speaker 13: and he has been I have a feeling it relates
• 12:51
  Speaker 13: with Top Plate because they're also you know, evolved with
• 12:56
  Speaker 13: BCC and kind of rubbing elbows with Private Part already.
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  Speaker 13: I just I can't formulate exactly what's going to happen,
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  Speaker 13: but I do think Private Party is going to win
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  Speaker 13: the tag straps tomorrow. And I think I think Matt
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  Speaker 13: Jackson he needs to tie his shoe on tight because
• 13:14
  Speaker 13: I see it fall it falls off.
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  Speaker 5: That's right, the field sail. I love that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Stokely has to get involved because I thought the
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  Speaker 6: other few weeks ago they.
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  Speaker 5: That one of them at was.
• 13:29
  Speaker 6: We're thinking maybe they do need a change, and maybe
• 13:31
  Speaker 6: Stokely does get involved and play some type of trick
• 13:35
  Speaker 6: and says, see, I can't help you, but it's time
• 13:39
  Speaker 6: for the Bucks to lose. They don't need that title
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  Speaker 6: at all anymore. And it gives and it gives a
• 13:45
  Speaker 6: team a w a title back. They don't have many,
• 13:48
  Speaker 6: so it gives him a title.
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  Speaker 4: Back because all heels have the belts right now.
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I have a couple of thoughts to interject here,
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  Speaker 1: and I've been interested in hearing what do you think
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: of these two different thoughts? Everybody? This goes out to everybody.
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  Speaker 1: The first thought is is if the BCC or Death
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  Speaker 1: Writers do interfere on behalf of the Young Bucks, how
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  Speaker 1: is that going to work? Because the Young Bucks are heels,
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: BCC or heels. I don't think that we want to see,
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: at least I don't want to see the BCC and
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: the Young Bucks form a team or a conglomeration, if
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: you will, But because I just think that's too much.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: One of the things that the nWo in WCW did
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  Speaker 1: wrong is that they just got too many people in it.
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  Speaker 1: Keep it just BCC, maybe a few months from now,
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: add somebody else into it. That's one of my thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: The second of my thoughts is we have this match
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow night where if the private party loses, they have
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: to break up. What if private party actually wins tomorrow night.
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  Speaker 1: Young Bucks then put forth their rematch clause and Christopher
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: Daniels comes out and says, yeah, we can do the rematch.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it's only fair that if you lose
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  Speaker 1: the rematch at full gear, you have to break up.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Keep in mind that we've seen it before. I believe
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  Speaker 1: it was with Swerving Our Glory and the Acclaim when
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: they were going at it. We had one week the
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Acclaimed one or I can't remember who won, but whatever
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: it was we had one team win and then a
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: week or two later the next team lost. You know,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: they lost it right back. So that is not something
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: that AAW has ever shied away from. We've seen it
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: a couple of times, especially in the Tag division. I
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: believe it's happened twice in fairly recent memory. What do
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: you think those two scenarios.
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  Speaker 2: They break up the Bucks Man, it ain't happening like that.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Got Matt Jackson would be the I mean Nick and Jack,
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Matt are both fantastic. You know, Matt is the more
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: complete package between the two of them, equally skilled, but
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: he's got more of a mouthpiece. And they built their
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: whole entire careers on the back of each other. They're
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: a brother tech team. They're the hearties for this generation.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: No, I agree with you, because hey, look we've also
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: got the Young Bucks have already been announced as a
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: team for Russell Dynasty on January fifth, and that way, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and you'll be giving them back to can't wait.
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  Speaker 6: I like them to pull Cody and say that if
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: you don't win this, you don't get a shot again.
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: And you know, like Cody was where he couldn't get
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: the championship. If you lose this match, you can't go
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: for the titles again because they don't. I mean, they
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: could still be the Bucks without titles. They don't. At
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: some point they got to stop taking the titles and
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: giving the young guys a chance to run with them more.
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  Speaker 4: I think in this case though, when they strapped up
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: the Bucks, the tag team division was a mess, so
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: when they put it on them, I didn't see an
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: issue with that because there wasn't anybody. My main worry
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: with Private Parties build is they slow roll it like
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: they did with the Acclaimed and Swerve in Our Glory
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  Speaker 4: when the switch should have been the week before the
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  Speaker 4: rematch and they lost a lot of buzz I know
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: they wanted to do in New York. If the crowd
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: tomorrow night is going bonkers for Private Party and they
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: want the straps, I think TK, even if it's not
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: the plan, needs to call the audible and put it
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: on them. And if the plan is to do the
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: rubber match to the paper route, you do it again
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: and guess what put them over again? You want to
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: establish Private Party as a top tag team. Back to
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: back wins over the Bucks there's not a better way
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: to do it.
• 17:56
  Speaker 14: That's the third Okay, they beat the Private Party, beat
• 18:02
  Speaker 14: them in the first tournament to get the title when
• 18:06
  Speaker 14: it first started, and then they lost to them at
• 18:09
  Speaker 14: the right paper.
• 18:10
  Speaker 9: So this, this one tomorrow is the third time.
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: A promocative idea.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: What what if this storyline is being used as a
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: device to remove the e v P status from the
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Bucks and they take this match and they take this
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: match over to to the next pay it to full
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: gear and they and they lose.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: So that's the step for the rematch? Is they the
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: title that instead of being split up?
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: There that's lose the e VP titles. It's creative, let's
• 18:44
  Speaker 8: go that's good.
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: I'm off for that from the cod family. Then you
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: like that, Then it's the Candy being the only v P.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Well, I think conversation show how unpredictable this match is
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: gonna be because we've all presented a number of ideas
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: of how this match could go. Like, you know, it
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: totally makes sense for the Young Bucks to win and
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: retain the titles, but it totally makes sense for Private
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Party to win and become the new tag team champions.
• 19:21
  Speaker 13: So what if I got another scenario all right, so
• 19:25
  Speaker 13: we've seen kind of some eluding, some seeds planted with
• 19:30
  Speaker 13: the thought that Jack Perry turns on the elite and
• 19:35
  Speaker 13: and the young bucks. What is is this the spot
• 19:38
  Speaker 13: where he costs them the titles.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: And all that's hot?
• 19:48
  Speaker 11: Well, yeah, I didn't notice.
• 19:49
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I didn't think it's that.
• 19:51
  Speaker 10: I don't think it's so much that he's showing that
• 19:54
  Speaker 10: he's going to turn on them.
• 19:55
  Speaker 9: But he's the one.
• 19:56
  Speaker 10: If you watch back to show last week when they
• 19:59
  Speaker 10: were saying, you know, when they were starting to duty attack,
• 20:02
  Speaker 10: it was Jack that was saying, come on, guys, we
• 20:05
  Speaker 10: gotta go, we gotta go, And they were kind of
• 20:06
  Speaker 10: the bucks were kind of standing there, and he was
• 20:08
  Speaker 10: the woman in his arms around both of them, patting
• 20:10
  Speaker 10: them on the chest, saying, come on, we gotta go.
• 20:12
  Speaker 9: So, I mean, there there is a little bit of that, but.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I don't like that could work.
• 20:18
  Speaker 9: That could wait.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Wait, let's go back to the EVP stipulation at the rematch, right,
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: If you're gonna turn Perry, that's where you do it.
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: Oh, I agree completely, Why wouldn't you.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, But if you're gonna turn parents, that's writers that's
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: where you do it.
• 20:34
  Speaker 9: I don't like them taking the EVD titles and putting
• 20:36
  Speaker 9: it in that.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I got myself all right, Shane, I got to piggyback
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: off a wolf really quick. And I, guys, most of
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: you are new to me being here. I have I
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: have a bad tendency of hijacking these conversations. So I'm
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: going to apologize in advance.
• 20:52
  Speaker 12: Yes you do shame.
• 20:53
  Speaker 8: Yes, I'm the worst of the smart marks, absolutely horrible person.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: No, what if you know the whole narrative being pushed
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: with Jack Perry right now and will find know that
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: you know, you guys will kind of see this after
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: I say it, But is that he's willing to go
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: to the extreme lengths in order to, you know, fulfill
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: his goal of taking aw back from you know, the
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: everybody else. And that's kind of like the direction the
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: death Writers are are headed in right now, so that
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: that is probable that that could be used as a
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: device to split them. And he finally turns, and then
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: the death Writers are belt collecting.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: The only reason I'm not fully on board with the
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Jack Perry face turn idea is because I think they're
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: waiting for Kenny Omega the return to do that.
• 21:47
  Speaker 12: Few like remember last.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Week during that weird birthday segment or whatever, it was
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Jack Perry that was cutting the promo, and I believe
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: he was the one that done to those organs on
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: that birthday cake.
• 22:03
  Speaker 10: So, but it wouldn't be it wouldn't be a Perry
• 22:08
  Speaker 10: face turn. It would be the Bucks with the face.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 22:11
  Speaker 10: Yeah, in this scenario, Perry's joining the death Riders who
• 22:19
  Speaker 10: are nowhere.
• 22:19
  Speaker 9: Near face, very far from face. So your your par
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: the Parry would be the.
• 22:25
  Speaker 10: Would be stay where he's at and join them, and
• 22:28
  Speaker 10: the Bucks would be turning face and then you could
• 22:30
  Speaker 10: get them involved in if that would.
• 22:34
  Speaker 9: I love where.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: I love that we fantasy book two weeks of programming
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: and we're building on top of that now like the weeks,
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: we're putting together some.
• 22:48
  Speaker 11: So we need to be in creative.
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: Two years on the server.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Over the last two or three weeks has been putting
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: on some great TV.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I think it's really strong.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: You've got to build story and that's what they're doing.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Sure it's not getting the high ratings right now, but
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: you've got to be patient. We know one thing about
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Tony Kahan is that he's patient.
• 23:18
  Speaker 9: Yes, you know it's about right now.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty six, I predicted we will finally know
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: what the death Writers are actually up to. Let's man,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: what are because I don't know about the rest of
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: you guys, but I am kind of totally confused by
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: the whole John Moxley and Death Writers thing. I don't
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: really understand what their end goal is. And I think
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: that's good storytelling right there, because it's open ended. There's
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: every possibility that at the end of this thing can
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: come out as the biggest baby faces in a w right.
• 23:58
  Speaker 10: And and that's the nice thing about it is to interpretation.
• 24:04
  Speaker 11: Yeah, maybe they know something.
• 24:05
  Speaker 10: Everybody, everybody there's what sen Here's eight of us in
• 24:09
  Speaker 10: here right now, and I guarantee you every single one
• 24:11
  Speaker 10: of us has got a different idea about what they're
• 24:13
  Speaker 10: up to. And that's just us A that doesn't count
• 24:16
  Speaker 10: the thousands and thousands and thousands of other people who
• 24:19
  Speaker 10: watch AW on a regular basis, So.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Suck do you have an idea of what they're up to?
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: What they're up to?
• 24:24
  Speaker 10: I think basically he said exactly what he's wanting to do.
• 24:27
  Speaker 10: He thinks that AW has become too much of a
• 24:31
  Speaker 10: show boating kind of thing because you've got all the
• 24:34
  Speaker 10: hot fires, and he wants it to go back to
• 24:37
  Speaker 10: what it was when it first got started. He wants
• 24:40
  Speaker 10: to go back to not so much show voting, straight
• 24:43
  Speaker 10: up wrestling, and that's what I think he's after.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: He reminds me of what i've I watched the Undertakers
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: podcast and it reminds me of of that sentiment of
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: the young The young guys are lazy and they've gained
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: too much and all that crop, and that's what it
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: reminds me of, as they're just too soft. And I
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: really think it is iron sharpens irons, as I always say,
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: And he's trying to make them more tougher and make
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: them realize that how soft they are, and we can
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: elevate the game through working as they do other instead
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: of you know, just being painsies and doing flip flops
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: and stuff.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: I saw that clip from the Undertaker, and with all
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: due respect to the guy who's at a glorious career,
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: he sounds like the bitterest, crankiest old man who has
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: not paid attention to modern wrestling in fifteen years. The
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: audacity of that dude who walked as slow as lurch
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: in the Ring. To say that the athletes performing today
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: are soft is absurd. They're in better shape, they're healthier,
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: they're smarter, they do athletic things that that man could
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: only dream of. He can critique them because maybe the
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: storytelling and the matt psychology is a little too high
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: spot based. There's arguments for that, pro and con. Depends
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: on your style. But when I hear stuff like that
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: from the veterans, it just lets me know how toned
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: down and bitter they are, that they've gotten old and
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: they're not in the business anymore in the way they
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: want to be. I just it made me grind my
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: teeth because the wrestling today is so much better than
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: when he had to speak in the nineties. It's not
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: even close. Well, I mean that, you're sorry to go
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: on a tangent there, No, you're that.
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: That's a fantastic point.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: He cohabitated in a company that denies CTE and didn't
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: and lied to the government about forcing their you know,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: talent to use steroids.
• 26:25
  Speaker 13: You know, let's let's forgettuated an entire locker room culture.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: It's like a business changes. Yeah, like the business changes, dude,
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: it's just different now. It doesn't mean it's bad, but
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: like back to the k fave aspect of the softness,
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: I think that's a legitimate thing. There's that's a storyline.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: There's too many cutesy stuff. We all joke on the
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: chat that when the FTR is out there, not FTR,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: when the Outrunner is out there with MXM, Like if
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: there was a tag match for the Death Riders to
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: come in and kill guys like, that's who Max would hate, right,
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: because that's the character now. They hate all the gimmick
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: they don't like. They don't like gimmicks.
• 27:01
  Speaker 10: Actually, actually I think the Outrunners would be more what
• 27:05
  Speaker 10: Max is wanting than not hating on because they are
• 27:09
  Speaker 10: a throwback to the old days.
• 27:11
  Speaker 9: They don't they come out.
• 27:12
  Speaker 10: Yeah, they do their their thing and they're gimmicky, but
• 27:15
  Speaker 10: that's the point. They're showing what tag team wrestling used
• 27:19
  Speaker 10: to be. You go back and watch the guys that
• 27:21
  Speaker 10: wrestled back in the day, like the British Bulldogs and
• 27:24
  Speaker 10: the Killer Bees.
• 27:26
  Speaker 9: And even the uh you know, any group like that.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: The Art Foundations.
• 27:31
  Speaker 9: Yea, it isn't that was the way it used to be.
• 27:35
  Speaker 9: I grew up watching that stuff.
• 27:37
  Speaker 10: I love tag team wrestling back then because you know
• 27:40
  Speaker 10: you had you had specific tag teams, this did specific stuff,
• 27:44
  Speaker 10: and they came out and did it every week. They're
• 27:47
  Speaker 10: showing what it used to be. That's the whole point.
• 27:49
  Speaker 10: They're mocking. They're mocking and and and showing tribute to
• 27:53
  Speaker 10: the nineties of the Hogan Area era when you had
• 27:57
  Speaker 10: the Great American Hero and all that different stuff. Yeah,
• 28:00
  Speaker 10: they're not being that way to be gimmicky. They're trying
• 28:03
  Speaker 10: to show what old tag team style is.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Its gonna be great. Turns on them.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Wheelers.
• 28:13
  Speaker 11: They're gonna be heartbroken. I'll be able to survive it.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: In the end. The endplay for the Death Riders is
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: to kill the Outrunners.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, speaking about going on Tangents, go ahead, No, No,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: I have nothing.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I could.
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: I could see it happening. That's all I've got for you.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm very happy about that too, to be honest
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: with you, because.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, trust me, Kelson, I remember what you said that
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: the Outrunners.
• 28:48
  Speaker 12: When the tag team kyles and they hold them for.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: More than two weeks, you're done with a w You're
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: done with this server, You're done with everything.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: And I said, bro, you said the same thing about
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Eddie Kingston holding Golden six months ago, get out of me.
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: I honestly think.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Edie was very thought provoking. It was very sweet and sentimental.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I admitted I was wrong.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I wasn't here, but I'm glad I got to hear it.
• 29:20
  Speaker 9: Oh that one.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: And then I told everybody after I read this statement,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: which I made an all seriousness and at the very
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: end that I said it, you guys believed Eddie word
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: that I just said. You are absolute censored.
• 29:37
  Speaker 8: I'm going to go eat a slice of Humble pirately quick.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: There you go. No, but no, I Barry made a
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: really good point. You know, the Outrunners are everything that
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: the undert Undertaker probably loves the Outrunners. Seriously, he probably does.
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: He's too much of a mark to be able to
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: watch another show.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: But yeah, he's old.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: He probably doesn't even realize if it's a r W,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: W W E or g c W. For God's sakes,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: what do you wants?
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: A W is kind of mirror mirroring NXT right now
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: in terms of their programming, so I can imagine that
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: the Takers will watch them.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I know I want to switch I want to switch
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: things up a little bit because we just saw last
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: week uh. Chris Jericho, the Learning Tree. Chris Jericho took
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: the Ring of Honor World Championship off of Mark Brisco.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: And there's a lot of speculation going out there that
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: having the Oho non dueba uh win this title is
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: uh something that a W and R O H is
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: doing to maybe get R O H a TV deal.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I don't see it, but did any of you guys
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: see it? And if you do, I mean where would
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: r oh go on TV? And do you think it's
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: a good idea? Yeah, it's a good idea, but there's
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: a true TV, true TV, True TV.
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: I think that's what Shockway should should be mixed in
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: with a mixing with make it kind of an NXT deal.
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: H Jericho is known look worldwide. He was part of
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: the reason why AW had success. I think he can
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: go over there and do something, keep it for a
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: little bit and then Big Bill take it or something
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: like that. Who's over it makes business sense. It's why
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: he did it last time, I think. And and once
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: again this does get it off the plate of.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: Brisco.
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: So he could be part of this collaboration in this
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: war so SO had a double feature. But I could
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: see them trying to get on TV at least try
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: adding a herd anything.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: How much.
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: Go ahead?
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: How much appetite is there for Ring of Honor on TV?
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: That's the one.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: Like I saw people say that with CJ then putting
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: the strap on them. But like I just.
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: More, much more?
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: How much more room is there? You've got TNA, you've
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: got NXT, you've got SmackDown, you've got raw, you've got Dynamite,
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: you've got Collision. I'm ignoring rampage because we all know
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: that goes away at the end of the year. Like,
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: is there room for an hour Ring of Honor show?
• 32:25
  Speaker 12: And Jock Wave comes in?
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Then no, Shane, do you remember when we were at
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Collision here in Cleveland and like nobody really was caring
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: about the Ring of Honor matches that were going on
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: before collision or really after, Like it seemed like once
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Collision ended, most of the crowd lack.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna make two comments and then you guys
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: could rehijack this podcast. For me, the worst thing that's
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: ever happened to Ring of Honor is Tony kah purchasing
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Ring of Honor. I am sorry for saying it, but
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: his influence over the product has cheapened the product.
• 33:11
  Speaker 8: It's a caricature of itself, the product. Yeah, listen, he's
• 33:18
  Speaker 8: using it as a developmental landscape for AW as opposed
• 33:22
  Speaker 8: to separating it from AW completely and having its be
• 33:26
  Speaker 8: It's not being built the same way a.
• 33:28
  Speaker 9: W is glue.
• 33:33
  Speaker 8: Well, I mean, like Ring.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Of Honor was a standalone product for two decades. It
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: had it grew some of the best talent we have
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: in every major wrestling promotion that's out today. Like, I
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: think the best thing for it would to be segregated
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: from ae W to book some more younger talent and
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: build build your.
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: Subsidiary company on that foundation. I don't think.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think Ring of Honor is working at all
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: right now, which is sad because there's a lot going
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: on over there that's really good wrestling to watch. But
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I feel like Rollin said, they had Ring of Honor
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: before Collision and after collision, and after Collision was over,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: you know, everyone left, no one out, Yeah.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Night.
• 34:26
  Speaker 10: Well, yeah, if you're gonna have fifteen, if you're gonna
• 34:29
  Speaker 10: have like two hours of of dynamite and then you're
• 34:33
  Speaker 10: gonna do an hour of rampage or two hours of
• 34:36
  Speaker 10: collision and then another hour. I mean, that's five hours
• 34:39
  Speaker 10: of wrestling, and that's not gonna especially in the middle
• 34:43
  Speaker 10: of a week. Now pay per views you can get
• 34:45
  Speaker 10: away with it because it's the weekend, but during the
• 34:48
  Speaker 10: week you can't. Like Wednesday night, if you don't start
• 34:50
  Speaker 10: until eight o'clock, you're looking at one two o'clock in
• 34:53
  Speaker 10: the morning.
• 34:55
  Speaker 12: I agree.
• 34:57
  Speaker 10: I think the biggest problem with Tony Kahn owning ro
• 35:00
  Speaker 10: H is that instead of keeping it separate like he
• 35:03
  Speaker 10: should have, he allowed I mean, he's kept the women's
• 35:06
  Speaker 10: portion separate. I mean that's a great thing because you've
• 35:10
  Speaker 10: got the champion has never been on AWTV. She's not
• 35:14
  Speaker 10: planning on being a w TV as long as she's
• 35:16
  Speaker 10: the rh champion, and he should have did that with
• 35:18
  Speaker 10: the men's titles. There's absolutely no reason that aw title,
• 35:23
  Speaker 10: that the ROH title should or r OH wrestlers should
• 35:27
  Speaker 10: be on aw TV.
• 35:29
  Speaker 9: You have too many good wrestlers, most of them are young.
• 35:33
  Speaker 9: Some of them should do some time in RH to
• 35:36
  Speaker 9: help them get better. But the way it stands right now,
• 35:40
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 35:41
  Speaker 10: It could be the reason why he put the title
• 35:43
  Speaker 10: one Chris Jericho. It could be because, like everybody said before,
• 35:48
  Speaker 10: you know, Jericho is Jericho.
• 35:50
  Speaker 9: He's one of the only people that is known by everybody,
• 35:54
  Speaker 9: so you know it's hard to tell.
• 35:57
  Speaker 8: Go ahead, Barry.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So two things. I think it's important for people
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: to remember that had Tony Kahan not bought a Ring
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: of Honor, there would be no Ring of Honor right now.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: There was no Ring of Honor. It needed an owner.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: It was defunct for lack of a better term.
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: So I understand him at that point.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: Regardless, I don't well any rate, it wouldn't be around
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: or it wouldn't be around in the way it is now.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: So I get why he bought it. What he did
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: with it, I think is completely up for debate. Sean,
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: did you see the Maple Leaf Pro Show last week
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: by any chance or any clips from it?
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Dang?
• 36:30
  Speaker 9: But yeah, the.
• 36:33
  Speaker 8: Ta Castro match.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Any footage?
• 36:37
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So I brought this up on last week's pod too.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: When I was watching that, I just kept thinking, this
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: is what Ring of Honor should be. It should be
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: a studio show. Fifteen you know, the eight hundred to
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: fifteen hundred people, however many they get in there, it's
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: probably less than fifteen hundred. Should be a studio show.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: They should just tape it into studio and like you said,
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: all on its own and to start, I just have
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: it on YouTube every week. Stop trying to cram it
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: into like Honor Club. That's one of the problems. I'm
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: not paying for Honor Club. I pay for too much stuff.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: I'm not paying for Honor Club to get third tier
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: matches from aw that I can watch. Probably these same
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: two performers at an indie show already on clips or
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: just pay for the show. I'm the triller or something.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: So they need something away from Honor Club. They need
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: a consistent product that's taped in an environment where you
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: don't have people leaving and you've got people there to
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: watch the show, not to hang out afterwards. And I
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: think that's one of the problems.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Well, Barry, let me break in here, because the rig
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: of Watter what was the last pay per view death
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: before Dishonor. They held that at the Esports Stadium in Arlington, Texas.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: That was one of the best chaper views I could
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: ever remember saying. I enjoyed that from beginning to end.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: A w Well, Tony Kahn has Daily's place sitting right there.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Run it, run it, do tapings every Saturday afternoon and
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: you can even put it live on YouTube on Saturday
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: afternoons or whatever you want to do. It doesn't but
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: you know whatever, afternoon, Saturday, Sunday, whatever, and then put
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: it on YouTube and or True TV.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Make Honor Club free. Just make it easy for people
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: to see it.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Verry.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, what is one of the biggest complaints, Like, like,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: name top five complaints from eight W fandom?
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: Where the hell did Dark Elevation go?
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Everybody that had the Google that was that was the Yeah, yeah,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: I get that, but like if you knew that that was,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: you know, from a fountain, like he built a lot
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: of a e w out of that program. Like I
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: think putting out I put think putting Ring of Honor
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: on YouTube for free is and and the end their
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: entire back love log is a wonderful idea. So and
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: then the second thing is like look at Ring of
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Honor ten years ago and Ring of Honor now, Like
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: do you think that a single person on the eighth
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: on the Ring of Honor roster has you know, the
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: capacity to become some someone from their previous roster ten
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: years ago that blew up the same way. I mean,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: like the it's it's it's purgatory. It's it's purgatory for
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: eight w talent. It's it, and it's it's almost unfair
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: because yeah.
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: But they have the talent. Oh, they have the talent.
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: They had Ricky Stark sitting right there, and yet Tony
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: wants to just keep him off totally. And he could
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: be on there, Sam, he could stay on there for once.
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: They had big enough stars, so hold it within there,
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: and yet Tony I don't know why Tony.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: Does this, but they have the talent.
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: And if they put it on there in an hour
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: format and like a whole weekly at an East Bulger
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: you know, or wherever you want to, or or Daily's place,
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: I don't care what you put it on, but you
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: put it on for free or semi free, people will
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: watch or watch it.
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: Because I used to go.
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: With Dark and hear about a good match, and I
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: will go back and watch it. I wouldn't watch it correctly.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: If you're trying to pitch a show to executives, how
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: do you pictur ring of honor? Hey, we have this
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: product that gets two thousand people a week. We can't
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: name anybody on the roster. We don't have anything to
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: connect it to other than it's related to a w
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: How do you pitch that to a TV exec. It's
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: not like TNA or NXT trying to get better deals.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Like it is a non entity that you're pitching.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: But I just agree with it.
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: N Yeah, it's always been bad ratings. It's never gotten
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: over a million.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: I do, Barry I think, and Barry I think that's
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: probably the reason why, like TNA has kind of tag
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: teamed with next t if you will, and you see
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: like TNA wrestlers coming into NXT and there are NXT
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: wrestlers jumping over to TNA. It's kind of that crossover,
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: the fact that you're talking about. But Kelson, I want
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: to respond to something you also said. I don't think
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: you could run Ring of Honor on a Saturday afternoon
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: or a Sunday afternoon, because guess what, that's when college
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: football is happening, and that's when the NFL is happening.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: The tape show you just take.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: You're always gonna have something going against something. Yep.
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: Yes, but you can take it and people watch it
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: back later.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: People will watch build you're going to have to build
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: your If you put it on YouTube, people can watch
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: it any time. I don't. I very rarely watch Dark
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: or Dark Elevation at what what did it start? Seven
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: o'clock PM, from seven to seven to eight. I very
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: rarely watched them live. I always watched it a little
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: bit later on in the evening, But I watched it
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: because I enjoyed it, especially Darky should go forever, isn't it. Oh? Yeah?
• 42:12
  Speaker 10: Now, vary from time to time they'd have Sometimes it'll
• 42:15
  Speaker 10: be an hour and a half, sometimes it'd be three
• 42:17
  Speaker 10: and a half. It just depended on how many shows
• 42:19
  Speaker 10: it matches they wanted. Again, the biggest part about Dark
• 42:21
  Speaker 10: and Dark Elevation though, was it was what kept things
• 42:25
  Speaker 10: going during the pandemic. Yeah, because they had they had
• 42:30
  Speaker 10: so many people that they were trying to get into
• 42:33
  Speaker 10: the regular show and they just couldn't do it, so,
• 42:36
  Speaker 10: you know, and that was before they had rampage or collision.
• 42:40
  Speaker 10: So you had two hours a week and you had
• 42:43
  Speaker 10: to fit as many people into your work and keep
• 42:45
  Speaker 10: them going. And that's how Tony kept them going. It
• 42:48
  Speaker 10: was unfortunate when they got rid of them. I hope
• 42:50
  Speaker 10: that they I hope that's kind of what the new
• 42:52
  Speaker 10: show is going to be something like that, or they
• 42:54
  Speaker 10: bring that back because they definitely have people that could
• 42:57
  Speaker 10: use it. You know, you got people that need development,
• 43:04
  Speaker 10: and that was how they were getting people developed.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I want to loop back around to
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: like the whole point of this. I don't believe that
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: pulling Chris Jericho over to Ring of Honor is going
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: to be effective.
• 43:17
  Speaker 8: I don't think it's going to do anything to put more.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Rise on the product, you know, especially when you had
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Mark Brisco the Ring of Honor Champion on a w
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: programming every single Wednesday and Saturday for five months.
• 43:30
  Speaker 10: I mean, like putting move in here solo, don't let
• 43:34
  Speaker 10: him be on AW anymore, and it might make a difference, But.
• 43:37
  Speaker 9: As long as he's on AW doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't.
• 43:42
  Speaker 10: It makes absolutely no sense to keep that. That's why
• 43:44
  Speaker 10: I said, keep it separate. If you separate it, even
• 43:47
  Speaker 10: if you only separate it for six months, give ro
• 43:51
  Speaker 10: o H a chance to develop itself on its own,
• 43:55
  Speaker 10: stand on his own two feet.
• 43:57
  Speaker 13: If I can interject, I think I think.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Doing a clean cut of r OH off of AW
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: TV would eventually or ultimately be bad for r Oh,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: you've got to weed it away a little bit, and
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: that I believe that's what they've been doing. Over the
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: last six months. You've not really seen as much r
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: OH on AWTV, although we have in the last pay
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: per view in the last couple of weeks of TV,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: but generally speaking, there has been far less r OH
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: on AWTV than there was at this time last year.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: Right, I'm just glad we don't have as many rh
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: belts on TV. It's just there was a time when
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: there was like eighty six belts on TV every week
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: and its triting me crazy.
• 44:51
  Speaker 9: Everything Not a belt fan?
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: Huh that keep your pants up somehow?
• 44:59
  Speaker 9: There you go.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I mean it's all about the pants. Well, look have
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: some fun. Uh. That came up with an idea saying, Okay,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: let's put any a W star in the role of
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: a famous horror movie. H I'm gonna name an a
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: W star and you tell me what role in a
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: horror movie that they belong into. Whoever answers first, then
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: they can come up with their own and we'll just
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: keep it going. I'm gonna start with Eddie Kingston, which
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: horror movie should he be in? He could be in
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Fried green Tomatoes, and it would.
• 45:41
  Speaker 7: Be he's the guy.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: So do I do I name the performer?
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: You named the performer, or you can say I think
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: that's so much would be great in this role. You
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: can on the.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: Performer, you know, like, what do you Adam Cole? If
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: there's a guy I think they could go into acting.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: I think Adam Cole is the guy. So, so who
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: would you go with for Adam Cole?
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: I would say thinner.
• 46:17
  Speaker 12: I was almost the saylash for Adam Cole.
• 46:25
  Speaker 9: Invisible Man I would take.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: I would injury man first, the first version to die
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: in the screen movies.
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: Let's your your runner, Let's looks back?
• 46:44
  Speaker 8: Uh, I got one. I'll throw this out.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Why it's gonna be easier, but it might be a
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: little more conversational.
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: Sir Strickland, Oh, he's done a couple of movies.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, bad guy.
• 47:04
  Speaker 9: He's the candy man.
• 47:05
  Speaker 10: I'm sorry, there's there's I don't see him for anybody
• 47:07
  Speaker 10: else but the candy man. That would be he, oh
• 47:10
  Speaker 10: my god, was as evil as he can be in
• 47:12
  Speaker 10: the ring and as much as he does with the
• 47:14
  Speaker 10: crazy crap, he would definitely make a great candy man.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: I'd like to.
• 47:20
  Speaker 12: What about from Nightmare on Elm Street, Bacon.
• 47:29
  Speaker 7: You know murder Grandpa.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Oh god, let's let's try.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: And he just goes, my bad.
• 47:48
  Speaker 9: You gotta do you gotta do the murder Hawk.
• 47:51
  Speaker 10: You gotta do the murder Hawk for Jason and either
• 47:57
  Speaker 10: Jason or uh from Halloween Face dude, no, no, no,
• 48:06
  Speaker 10: leather Face to the t.
• 48:09
  Speaker 9: I just see. I don't know.
• 48:10
  Speaker 10: He's just so big, and so I think he would
• 48:13
  Speaker 10: make a great Jason or a great Michael Myers.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I mean he could, But what I what if I
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: think of a horror movie and I think of Lance Archer,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: it's leather Face, am I right? Yeah?
• 48:27
  Speaker 9: What was the cane played? Yes, you know we can
• 48:35
  Speaker 9: do that one too.
• 48:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to Rollins. What what Rustler would you
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: like to see in a horror movie?
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: Actually, I'm gonna flip it. Who would Who do you
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: think would be good for slash.
• 48:52
  Speaker 8: Slash like from Guns N' Roses? What's that?
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Wasn't Slash like the Charity of Scream? I don't remember Slash.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: Maybe I'm thinking of somebody else, but we'll go with
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: the guy from Scream.
• 49:09
  Speaker 8: Oh that's ghost Face.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Slash, that's still.
• 49:20
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, that's all that that was screen perfect.
• 49:28
  Speaker 9: I don't care enough. He don't care enough. His hands
• 49:31
  Speaker 9: in his pockets too much. You can't kill anybody, That's
• 49:33
  Speaker 9: what nobody would expect them.
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he can go when he has to run, but
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: he can just slowly walk. That's why he's perfect for
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: if he just slowly walk.
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: I know this is a this is a rat hole
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: off o see. But they've done some significant character development
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: with him the last couple of weeks, especially a collision
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: or uh yeah that that end of Dynamite and they
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: started Collision with the recapping that. What do you think
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: he's doing this week?
• 49:59
  Speaker 9: Oh, he guess.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: Are we going to see what if oc actually tries?
• 50:06
  Speaker 8: We got that with.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but every week, good point, we're going to see
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: and put his hands in his pockets.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Let you visit that in our pot poe section. So okay,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: let's go with you. Let's see what what.
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: Is your I'm gonna go with Julia ar as Carrie.
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: As car That may win.
• 50:31
  Speaker 6: Ju Yeah, I like Carrie because of blood boring down
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: on her picks, blood and all that.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Very interesting. Well for you here, let's hear from you.
• 50:47
  Speaker 13: Sure, how about John Moxley as ash from Evil Dead.
• 50:54
  Speaker 7: Mhm hum hm hm hmm.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: Can he do the one though?
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was thinking, Kenny do the one liners?
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: You know? Does he does? He have the the twist, sick,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: twisted humor in him.
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: He's always so serious. I've always heard he's not super funny.
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: He's just very well.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: The first thing that comes in the mind when I
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: see John Moxley on TV is oh, I prepared to laugh.
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: He's a very jovial individual. He carries a lot of warmth.
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: I've heard he's not very joking.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if they ever do a remake of Forrest, gup,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: John Moxley's your guy. That's what What do you have
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: for us here?
• 51:52
  Speaker 11: I was trying to think, But because of that brown noise,
• 51:57
  Speaker 11: I would have to say Don Callous in the Friday
• 52:02
  Speaker 11: the Thirteenth movies as Jason worehees. Because of that creepy
• 52:08
  Speaker 11: music in those in those movies that kill kill kill,
• 52:12
  Speaker 11: ha ha, quiet subtle music, I would say Don Kallus
• 52:18
  Speaker 11: as Jason woarhees.
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: Definitely, but then he could talk. That's perfect.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: Great part alas.
• 52:29
  Speaker 9: I Got one for you, you Rush as the Leprechaun.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Mine because I was gonna go with ReHO as Meghan.
• 52:41
  Speaker 9: Ah, that's a good one.
• 52:45
  Speaker 12: I haven't.
• 52:47
  Speaker 8: I can't.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: I gotta go into the grab bag for a dude
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: that isn't an a W anymore.
• 52:52
  Speaker 8: Marty Skirl is the Predator.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Well that can actually be swear stricklyd too. Yeah, think
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: about it that he would be good at that.
• 53:06
  Speaker 7: Do you remember the movie.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: I was taking?
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: Do you remember the movie the mask went like the
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: person would put on the mask and they go, it's
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: show time. Yeah, yeah, who would be k W wrestler
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: would be good for that role, something to do.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Other than wine and fantasize and being on the w W.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: I what you have to take a straight shot at me?
• 53:54
  Speaker 12: Thanks Boddy.
• 53:56
  Speaker 8: I can't wait to see it. I mean that.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, what is it?
• 54:00
  Speaker 9: So many y'all are in Ohio.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: That's just Ohio Cleveland Happenstance, that's legitimately Happenstances.
• 54:07
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 54:09
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's just two hours south of there, just so
• 54:11
  Speaker 9: you know. Oh, so what's Ohio? Naive?
• 54:15
  Speaker 10: I'm forty five minutes from downtown Pittsburgh.
• 54:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah you're Pennsylvanian.
• 54:21
  Speaker 9: No, no, no, no, I'm from Ohio.
• 54:22
  Speaker 10: I'm just forty five. I'm closer to Pittsburgh than I
• 54:25
  Speaker 10: am Cleveland. But that's just weird. There's so many people
• 54:28
  Speaker 10: in this group that are from Ohio.
• 54:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Well, let's wrap this up by going to our pop
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: pre section segment and this is where everybody will get
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: a chance to bring up whatever kind of discussion topic
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: they want to bring up, and we will start with Barry.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: I'm really looking forward to swear Strickland versus Shelton Benjamin tomorrow.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: Much like Sean Ross sapt Benjamin was one of my
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: favorite performers from the two thousands. When he came in
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: as Team Angle, I thought this guy was going to
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: be a mega superstar. Due to happenstance and scenarios, it
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: never really went the way I thought it was going to,
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: and I'm I was super excited to see signed with AW.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: I'm glad he's in a program with with Swerve. I
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: don't know if this means that we're going to see
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: Lashley tomorrow night or not, but I think those two
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: in the ring together, it's gonna be magic tomorrow night,
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: and I'm really really excited for that.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Barry.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this because looking at these matches
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: on this card. One of the neat things about this card,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: even though there's not a lot of matches on it,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, there's four. None of them are obvious, No,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: none of them are often How do you see the Shelton,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Benjamin and Swarzt Strickland match play out?
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: I don't think we get a clean finish on that one,
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: and I know aw kind of prides itself, but that's
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: one where well, I don't know. I wouldn't be shocked
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: if there's not a clean finish. I also would not
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: be shocked if Swerve does a job either, depending on
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: how they want they want to elevate uh Sheltman do
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: the for his push for the Hurt syndicate or whatever
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: they go with. But I love I love this show's
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: cards so far because I don't know who's going to
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: go over in most of the matches. We don't we're all,
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: you know, we don't know how the tag is.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Going to go. I don't know how may debut.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: Could could be. And if he does, then it's easy
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: to see Shelling going over. You know where he where
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: he kills us Serve on the outside or something. But
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: like cold Buddy Matthews, I'm assuming Coal goes over, but
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: I'm more concerned that he doesn't get hurt again.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Right because somebody can let's say on the one match, Yeah,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: I have another match. One of the complaints or one
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: of the concerns is saying that Bobby Lashley, if when
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: he debuts, should debut out a pay per view. My
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: thought process is why not do it on a TV
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: show because that makes it to where people here, even
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: if they didn't watch it, they'll hear about it all.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Lastly came at Dynamite. We got to start watching Dynamite
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: because anything can happen. Now would you agree with that state?
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: Now anything can happen has really been hurt in the
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: advertising and the booking. I understand how exciting it was
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: when AW was in its heyday and it was like
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: peak WCW nitro. We had debuts every couple of weeks
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: and it was crazy. You never knew what was going
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: to happen. It's a mature product. Now the roster is mature.
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: There's not a lot of moving back and forth. And
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: I am much more interested in consistent booking where we
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: know the direction of the shows than tune in each
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: week we don't know what's going to happen. There is
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: that excitement of uncertainty for sure, Kelson and I think
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: there's value in that too, But I don't want to
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: go to the well too often, and I felt like
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: that's been part of the problem for them for the
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: last eighteen months. They've gone to the will of uncertainty
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: too often and it does not paid off for him.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Well, Shane, I'm going to go to you, what is
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: your potpourri for this evening?
• 58:00
  Speaker 8: With a piggyback off of Barry that was very well said.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Sometimes, and I know that I've said these on these
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: podcasts before, but sometimes it feels when Tony Kahn is booking,
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: it's like he's an eight year old with a bag
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: of Pro Wrestling Action figures and and most of them
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: are WWE once like I can't with myself today, But uh,
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: the car tomorrow is absolutely stacked. It feels like a
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: pay per view. It looks like a pay per view.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm excited to be sitting as close as I am.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: I really don't have anything too out of the box.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: I'm curious to see what matches they're going to slide in.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: I'm curious to see how Max and the you know,
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: death Riders are going to be involved with you know,
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: any echelon of this show, on.
• 58:40
  Speaker 8: How that plays out.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: You know, mox is an Ohio guy too, so you
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: know they've they've consistently kept him on Ohio shows because
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: so we know something is going to happen.
• 58:50
  Speaker 8: I'm a little burnt out on OC.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: I do agree with the character development and how desperately
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: he needed it, but put a put a significant belt
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: on the guy or or leave him, leave him in his.
• 59:03
  Speaker 8: Leave him in his lame you know. So that's that's
• 59:06
  Speaker 8: what I got.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Mkay, let's go to you. What is your poort pourri?
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: I really don't have one, honestly.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, feel free to jump in on somebody else's
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: and piggyback off of it. Let's go to Rawlins.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: So my pot pourri is gonna be a little bit
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: more sentimental.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Let me get a tissue hold on.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: And that's because the match I'm most interested in tomorrow
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: is Chris Statlander against Camille. Chris Statlander has a bearded
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: dragon named Boots and uh, for those of you who
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: don't know, for about oh boy, like eleven or twelve years,
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: I had a bearded dragon. Her name was Sandy, Yes,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: and over the last few months or so, she and
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: I started watching aw together. Well, unfortunately Sandy has since
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: passed away, which I'm still, you know, trying to get over.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: That. Mom.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I lost my my core in May, so
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry for you.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 9: That's tough.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: So it's it's a little bit heartwarming if you will
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: to be seen Statlander knowing that she also has a
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: bearded dragon, So I'm as good be especially rooting hard
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: for Statlander in her match tomorrow against Camille. I'm planning
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: on taking a bib of Furon's advice and making a
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: poster that says, like, you know, something like stat and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: Boots are are greater than and Camille and the CEO.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: Or maybe I'll do like Sandy and Boots plus stat
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: are better than Camillo and the CEO, something like that.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: I like your first first one better because anybody reading
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: the signs won't know what who Sandy is.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Plus, if if stat Lander saw the signs, she would
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: probably like it. Right, Rollins, maybe come over and give
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: you a high five.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 11: That's true, That's true.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: I think it's yeah, Yeah, Stats headed straight for Mercedes. Hey, Rollins,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to get on bach MANI again with my
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: science nice I'd be three for three for Cleveland shows.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 7: I do want to comment on that though.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: Why are they having stat Lander go after the ad
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: after the TBS champion and Chip again. She should be
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: targeting Mariah May and going for the AEW Women's Championship.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry, I totally.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: That belt leans off the CEO bad.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah it does.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 10: But here's the thing, and this was gonna be my
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 10: appropriate anyway Statlanders do. She has done so much for
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 10: this company since she came back from and won the
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 10: TBS title the first time she's given. She's been misused.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 10: She's been losing the people she had no way in
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 10: hell should be losing to. If this isn't a squasheds
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 10: match to morrow night, it's gonna be ridiculous because I'm sorry,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 10: all right, I'm supposed to be this big jump. She's
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 10: not good in the ring. She should get squashed tomorrow night.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 10: And Mercedes should do the same thing because neither one
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 10: of them are in the same class as Statlanders.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, go back and watch Statlanders match against uh
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: willo at all out in the street fight. The two
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: of them put on an absolute begger.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: That was a death spot too, I mean, absurd.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: But like I think about I think about even the
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: triple threat match at Full Gear. I think it was
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: last year with her, Julia Hart and sky Blue. Like,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: I personally really liked that match. I thought all three
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: of them did a solid job. And I'm like, okay,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: why as in Statlander getting a bigger push? Like, personally
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: I liked her as a heel. I get that they
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: decided to change directions whatever, but I'm just like, give
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: her a bigger push, Like she doesn't need to be
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: feuding with Mercedes Monette. I'm sorry, but Mercedes hasnt work
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: since coming to AW, so let's see her. Let's see
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: Statlander feud with Tony Storm, for example, or like a
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: thun your Rosa. I'd like to see a Deanna Perrazza
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: versus Chris Statlan on your feed.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 7: You get my point.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 8: I think, uh, I think that a.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: I think that AW has the best women's wrestlers on Earth.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: I think that WWE's recent acquisition of Julia and Stephanie
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: van Kor and how they're performing on that programming, you know,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: kind of highlights that idea.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 8: But I am also going to say that.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: I still believe to this day that the women are
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: horribly booked, and I wish that they got more TV time,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: and I wish that he shuffled around things a little more. So,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: you know, the people like Diana Prazzo is one of
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: the best women's wrestlers on earth. Why did we book
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: or just a sideliner like three months after they put
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: around programming it, you know, like it. I just I
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: really like wish that they would do more to elevate
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: that aspect of their programming.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: What let's go to net and get nets three.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 11: Uh, let's see. I'm looking forward to hearing what Hangman
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 11: has to say. I'm always looking forward to hearing what
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 11: Hangman has to say. So he's mad at everyone. Uh,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 11: he seems to be out there with no friends. I
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 11: want to know what he's thinking and what he's talking about,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 11: what he's doing, and who he's going to beat up next.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, that too.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 11: I want to know a lot about Hangman. So, yeah,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 11: that's an alcoholic. That's mine.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 7: We all know that shade.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: We know that that's an alcoholic. Yeah, I mean, to me,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: hang Man is top three bos beard a w right
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: now easily, you know.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's main character.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: Man. My potpourri is this, We've got hi wife. We
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: have Fright Night Dynamite tomorrow night, one night before Halloween.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: It would be a travesty, a absolute travesty if if
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Julia Hart isn't part of the show. She's ready. She
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: said that she's waiting for the call. The call should
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: come because I do believe and I've said this before
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: that back in before she got injured, the collision course
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: was going to be between her and Mercedes Monette. Who
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: was the first person that confronted Mercedes Monet on the
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: very first night that she was in aw at Big Business,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: Julia Hart. She continued to confront Mercedes Monee until she
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: got injured. In the that was put on the shelf.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: They need and they need to revisit this because Julia
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: Hart is the former TBS champion. She never got a
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: rematch clause match. This would be a great way to
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: get her into the program. Let's face it, Julia Hart's
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: draw every time that she was on me, the rating
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: spiked were maintained, they didn't go down, So you use that.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: That's what you need to do. So my potpourri is
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: Julia Hart on Fright night Dynamite. I would have her
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: actually come out during the Chris Statlander and Camille match
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: because you know, Mercedes Monett is going to be out there,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: Mercedes Monette is going to probably try to interfere. Why
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: not have Julia Hart come out and beat the crap
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: out of Mercedes Monet. Mercedes. She needs to get the
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: upper hand on Mercedes to make it believable. She needs
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: to come out and attack Mercedes Monette.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: Probably after a match again, though I don't know who's
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: gonna win this match between Statlander and Camille, because I
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: don't know who's gonna win any of the matches Kelson.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: What if she comes out and well, Mercedes about to interfere,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: Julia returns, and then they fight back into the back.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: I hate, I hate I hate the fighting back. What
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: I would really like to see is for her to
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: attack Mercedes Monett get the upper hand.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: Then Camille come out and wallop Julia. Chris Statlander then
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: comes out and handles Camille. Julia comes up, you know,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: from on the floor, probably near the ring post or whatever,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: comes up and goes out to Mercedes Monett again. But
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: just as she's about to do a devastating move or
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: whatever on Mercedes Monet. Camille comes in and Mercedes Monet
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: had intend it on missing I mean, Julia Harden had
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: intended on missing Mercedes Monet, but instead it hits Camille.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: Now you have this whole thing where Camille is a
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: little bit off with Mercedes Monet, and it's not the
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: brick house bodyguard that's going to protect Mercedes Monet at
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: every turn. She's going to be a little bit off.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: Make a story up so that I'll post match post match, absolutely,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: but I don't yet. I don't know who's going to
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: win this match, because I don't know who's going to
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: win any of the matches.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: Well, if you do it right, you set up an
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: easy women's tag match with the with uh Stat and
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: Julia versus Mercedes and Camille next week too.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'd also like to know how close that
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: sky Blue is the coming back.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 8: Not close.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: I would definitely say probably around May of next year
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: at least for her. But you know, it'll be interesting.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: I really do feel like this could be an interesting Dynamite. Well,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: look that's gonna I mean, that's gonna be end of
• 1:10:08
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• 1:10:10
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• 1:11:42
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• 1:11:46
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• 1:11:51
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• 1:11:55
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• 1:12:04
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• 1:12:09
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• 1:12:16
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• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: it's probably not strictly just okay, yeah, So so they're
• 1:12:26
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• 1:12:28
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• 1:12:32
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• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: the show. So they're gonna see a lot of wrestling
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: tomorrow night, which is as it should be. But anyway,
• 1:12:41
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• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: You go, excuse me, but the Cavaliers are four and
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  Speaker 12: I worked for them?
• 1:12:58
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• 1:13:08
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