Latest / The Mark Belling Podcast / Mark Belling Podcast #146: As Francesca Hong goes on national TV and babbles like an incoherent robot, the question is begged: how do such terrible Democrat candidates go un-vetted by the media? And, is JSOnline giving Mandela Barnes a raw deal over anonymous claims about his treatment of women? And Mark analyzes CBS' attempt to use Tony Romo's OWI arrest to get out from under his massive contract.

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Mark Belling Podcast #146: As Francesca Hong goes on national TV and babbles like an incoherent robot, the question is begged: how do such terrible Democrat candidates go un-vetted by the media? And, is JSOnline giving Mandela Barnes a raw deal over anonymous claims about his treatment of women? And Mark analyzes CBS' attempt to use Tony Romo's OWI arrest to get out from under his massive contract. · The Mark Belling Podcast

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  Speaker 2: You may have heard of the term vetting ve e
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  Speaker 2: T T I n G. Vetting. It means checking someone out.
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure the term actually came from the sport
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  Speaker 2: I'm in horse racing. When you're gonna buy a horse,
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  Speaker 2: you have to make sure that the horse is physically
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  Speaker 2: sound and so on, So you have a veterinarian go
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  Speaker 2: over it, and we call it vetting the horse. I
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  Speaker 2: think that's where it came from. But now the term
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  Speaker 2: is applied to anything where you give somebody the once
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  Speaker 2: over before you decide to go ahead and move forward
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  Speaker 2: with the person. Leftist candidates for political office don't get vetted.
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  Speaker 2: If there is vetting, it's only done by say another
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  Speaker 2: Democrat who's opposing them, who's getting in their way. The
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  Speaker 2: media simply doesn't perform that part of its role on Democrats.
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  Speaker 2: Now we're going to get to in a moment Francesca
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  Speaker 2: hag who has, even though the voting isn't over yet,
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  Speaker 2: won the Democratic primary for governor Wisconsin. It's over. She
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  Speaker 2: has gotten to where she is despite the fact that
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  Speaker 2: she's a rather incoherent, clearly not very smart, totally unaccomplished,
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  Speaker 2: babbling Marxist, and the people of Wisconsin are going to
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  Speaker 2: see more and more of that over the next couple
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  Speaker 2: of months. But there's been very little digging into it
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  Speaker 2: prior to this. But before we get to hang, much
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  Speaker 2: more instructive is the case of Mendela Barnes, who not
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  Speaker 2: only has been forced to drop out of the governor's race,
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  Speaker 2: is suddenly being portrayed by the media as a slimy
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  Speaker 2: horn dog. Suddenly now they tell us that they've discovered this.
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  Speaker 2: let's start with Mendela Barnes. This is a guy that's
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  Speaker 2: been around Democratic politics in Wisconsin in a very high
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  Speaker 2: profile for a decade. He was in the state legislat
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  Speaker 2: that he ran for lieutenant governor in twenty eighteen of
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  Speaker 2: the Democratic primary and he won. Tony Evers won the
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  Speaker 2: general election. Barnes was his running mates, so he became
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  Speaker 2: the lieutenant governor. From that, he chose to run in
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  Speaker 2: a competitive Democratic primary for the United States Senate. There
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  Speaker 2: were several other will finance candidates running against him. One
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  Speaker 2: of them was the son of one of the owners
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  Speaker 2: then owners of the Milwaukee Bucks, had a lot of money.
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  Speaker 2: None of them could, however, match the name recognition of
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  Speaker 2: Mendela Barnes, who uses his middle name Mendela to get
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  Speaker 2: him to you know, it gets him ahead because people
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  Speaker 2: associate Mendela Barnes, Nelson, Mandela and so on. Anyway, he
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  Speaker 2: won that. Then he runs against Ron Johnson and a
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  Speaker 2: statewide election loss, but lost narrowly. During none of this
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  Speaker 2: time have I read anything in the media suggesting that
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  Speaker 2: Mendela Barnes treats women terribly and as a long history
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  Speaker 2: of mistreatment of women, suddenly now Democrats drop out of
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  Speaker 2: the field right and left. Huang is leading, Barnes is
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  Speaker 2: running second, everybody else is ninety miles behind. Suddenly the
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  Speaker 2: media has stories detailing this terriblest treatment of women by
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  Speaker 2: Mandela Barnes that goes back years and years and years
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  Speaker 2: and years and years. What they just discovered this now
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  Speaker 2: or is there a reason they're only telling us now?
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  Speaker 2: If they would have told us in twenty twenty two, when,
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  Speaker 2: for example, he was running against Ron Johnson, it probably
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  Speaker 2: would have guaranteed that Ron would win in what turned
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  Speaker 2: out to be a very tight and difficult race. Why
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  Speaker 2: didn't they tell us then, Well, we didn't know it.
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  Speaker 2: Then you're telling me that according to this, this is
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  Speaker 2: years and years and years and years. There is in
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  Speaker 2: years and years of history of this. What that years
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  Speaker 2: and years doesn't go past twenty twenty two? Why now? Well,
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  Speaker 2: I think that this story was planted, and I think
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  Speaker 2: that the media, despite the fact that it was planet,
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  Speaker 2: decided to run with it because right now it serves
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  Speaker 2: their purpose. What's the last remaining obstacle of Francesca Hang
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  Speaker 2: winning the Democratic nomination for governor Bende La Barnes. Now
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  Speaker 2: here's the thing. There's been a piece circulating for months
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  Speaker 2: in Wisconsin. It showed up in an online leftist website.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody else has done much of anything with it. It's
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  Speaker 2: written by someone who says that they're a woman, no sign,
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  Speaker 2: no names in this, in here anywhere, and it talked
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  Speaker 2: about Mendela's terrible treatment of women. I mean, anybody could
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  Speaker 2: write something like that about anyone and not have any
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  Speaker 2: names on it. How do you deny that you were
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  Speaker 2: terrible in your treatment of women if nobody names any
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  Speaker 2: of the women that you supposedly terribly treated. If it
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  Speaker 2: sounds like I'm defending Mendela Barnes, well I'm not really
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  Speaker 2: defending Mendela Barnes as much as questioning why suddenly now
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  Speaker 2: there's completely thinly reported story of lurid unsubstantiated allegations, which
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  Speaker 2: was ignored by the media for years after years after years,
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  Speaker 2: pops up. Now, where did it come from? Well, it
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  Speaker 2: is not a secret. One of the things that actually
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  Speaker 2: is known about Mendela's dating history is one of his
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  Speaker 2: exes is Francesca Hag Another detail that the media hasn't
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  Speaker 2: really reported but is widely known. They dated for a
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  Speaker 2: while a few years ago. If there's anybody who would
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  Speaker 2: know about whether or not Mendela mistreats the women that
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  Speaker 2: he goes out with. It would be hag. So is
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  Speaker 2: that where this thing started to circulate anonymously in Wisconsin?
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  Speaker 2: Left his circles? Did it come from Hank's people? I
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  Speaker 2: suspect it did, even whether true or not, this stuff
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  Speaker 2: is circulated by opposition candidates against rivals, done so anonymously
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  Speaker 2: all the time. But nobody touched it. And kill now
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  Speaker 2: here's everybody imploding, David Crowley making a fool of himself
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  Speaker 2: of the debate anointed by Tony Ebs and suddenly going
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  Speaker 2: backwards after that, Barnes is the only one left, and
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  Speaker 2: suddenly JS online sources the tail concerns about Mandela Barnes'
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  Speaker 2: behavior toward women sources. First of all, nobody here is
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  Speaker 2: alleging he's done anything criminal. Had he been accused, for example,
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  Speaker 2: of beating women up or sexually assaulting them, maybe you
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  Speaker 2: could run with anonymous sources if you were convinced they
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  Speaker 2: were telling the truth. The deal of anonymous sources when
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  Speaker 2: they make an allegation towards someone is, if you're ethical,
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  Speaker 2: you pretty much have to be convinced that they're telling
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  Speaker 2: the truth have to present you with verifiable evidence, and
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  Speaker 2: you'll run with the story only because you believe that
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  Speaker 2: the anonymous source requires anonymity or something bad could happen
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  Speaker 2: to them. We're not talking about an anonymous source suggesting
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  Speaker 2: that somebody's an imperious boss or something like that. But
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  Speaker 2: this Democratic Party officials of Wisconsin. Democratic Party of Wisconsin
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  Speaker 2: officials in twenty twenty five hired an outside law firm
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  Speaker 2: to review allegations of inappropriate behavior involving young adult women
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  Speaker 2: against one of the party stars, Mandela Barns. So now
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  Speaker 2: we're told that as far back as last year, the
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  Speaker 2: Democratic Party of Wisconsin hired a law firm to investigate Barns.
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  Speaker 2: How in the hell does that not get reported until now?
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  Speaker 2: Are you telling me that nobody in the state news
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  Speaker 2: media had any sources of the Democratic Party that knew
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  Speaker 2: about this? So apparently, And again I will tell you that,
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  Speaker 2: in fact, there's been rumblings about Mendelin's treatment of women forever.
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  Speaker 2: And I raise some of these points about his serial
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  Speaker 2: dating proclivities way back when he was running against Ron Johnson.
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  Speaker 2: I also pointed out that when he was at Whitewater,
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  Speaker 2: one of the many places that he showed up without graduating.
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  Speaker 2: He owes that a party for women, in which the
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  Speaker 2: online posting said no, and the term used was ratchets allowed.
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  Speaker 2: Ratchets is a slang term apparently for unattractive women. So
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  Speaker 2: that's who Barnes is, and that's who Barnes has been
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  Speaker 2: forever and ever and ever. Well, now we're being told
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  Speaker 2: that there's been so much crap being thrown around of
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  Speaker 2: Medela Barnes that the Democratic Party felt they need to
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  Speaker 2: hire a law firm to investigate this. The party launched
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  Speaker 2: the probe after anonymous person sent a letter first to
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  Speaker 2: then party chairman Ben Wickler in twenty twenty four accusing
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  Speaker 2: the party of turning a blind eye to the egregious
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  Speaker 2: way Barnes has used his office in power to gain
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  Speaker 2: access to women. By the way, I've read the letter.
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  Speaker 2: Wisconsin right Now wrote about the letter, and as I said,
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  Speaker 2: a lefty website actually published the letter. As I say,
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  Speaker 2: the charges against Barnes are worst case scenario that needs
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  Speaker 2: a lothario who uses his high position to impress women
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  Speaker 2: and then is a hit and run artist. Barnes, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, is not married. He would be somebody who
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  Speaker 2: is a smooth talker. Hey, I'm Mandela Barnes, I'm this,
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  Speaker 2: I'm a lieutenant governor, I'm this, I know Tony Tony Evers.
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  Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah. Hey, you want to hang out
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  Speaker 2: with me? And then he does and the next thing
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  Speaker 2: you know, he dumps someone moves on. That's basically what
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  Speaker 2: the're alleging, in other words, being kind of a snake.
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  Speaker 2: Wickley was one of several several within Democratic circles to
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  Speaker 2: receive the letter. He immediately flagged for the party's Human
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  Speaker 2: Resources and in host council to look into. According to
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  Speaker 2: the person familiar, but the letter did not include specific
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  Speaker 2: allegations nor any names atimate. The review did not turn
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  Speaker 2: up anything the party could take action on because if
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  Speaker 2: it's lack of details. According to the person familiar and
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  Speaker 2: I read the letter, it didn't have anything that you
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  Speaker 2: can look into at all because there's nobody named. You
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  Speaker 2: literally have to go through and talk to people in
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  Speaker 2: the Madison in Milwaukee circles who knew Barnes. Okay, who
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  Speaker 2: did he go out with? And then go up to
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  Speaker 2: those women and say, hey, how did Mendela treat you
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  Speaker 2: when you dated? My guess, is that the majority of
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  Speaker 2: them don't want to talk about it. But suddenly, now, now, now,
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  Speaker 2: this thing over the weekend shows up on js online,
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  Speaker 2: on the front page of the Journal Sento. Suddenly the
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  Speaker 2: vetting of Mendela Barnes goes on. Now Furthermore, Barnes says, rather,
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  Speaker 2: the Journal Sentler reported the day that Barnes dropped out
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  Speaker 2: of the race last week was the same day that
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  Speaker 2: they asked him about this. So here's Barnes. He's way
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  Speaker 2: behind Hauang, but the only threat to Hong. He's managed
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  Speaker 2: to suppress all of this stuff about himself in the past.
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  Speaker 2: Suddenly the journal call up and wants to talk about it,
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  Speaker 2: and Barnes, as I'm out of here, they do the
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  Speaker 2: story on him. Anyway, Let's imagine Hong was not in
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  Speaker 2: the race and it was all these others that were running,
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  Speaker 2: and Barnes therefore was the front runner. Would they have
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  Speaker 2: told us about this or like in twenty twenty two,
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  Speaker 2: would they have pretended that all of the crap on
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  Speaker 2: Mendela Barnes didn't exist. The only guy who reported anything
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  Speaker 2: on him back in twenty twenty two other than me
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  Speaker 2: was Dan Weiss, the late Dan Vice of the journle.
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  Speaker 2: He was default in his property taxes. He had a dispute,
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  Speaker 2: and not over non payment of his condo fees. I
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  Speaker 2: reported that he was being chauffeured back and forth to
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  Speaker 2: Madison every day by a state trooper. He appeared not
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  Speaker 2: to have had a driver's license. But most of that
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  Speaker 2: stuff was not picked up at all by the mainstream media.
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  Speaker 2: And suddenly now as they say, this is picked up
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  Speaker 2: and it goes on and on and on and again.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything really here to go with
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  Speaker 2: if you had like six women get up there and
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  Speaker 2: say this is my name and this is how badly
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  Speaker 2: he treated me. But it sounds like, even in their
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  Speaker 2: anonymous allegations, his bad treatment is he goes after young women.
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  Speaker 2: Now again, Barnes isn't that old. This is not some
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  Speaker 2: sixty four year old letch going around to looking at
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  Speaker 2: an eighteen or nineteen year old intern. I think Barnes
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  Speaker 2: right now is only forty one. So if he started
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  Speaker 2: doing this ten years ago, he's thirty one and he's
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  Speaker 2: hitting on nineteen and twenty year old's hanging around the way.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, come on, that's really Secondly, do you mean
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  Speaker 2: to tell me that you think the Mendela Barnes is
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  Speaker 2: the only younger political type out there running around impressing
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  Speaker 2: young women with who he is. Come on, the Democrats,
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  Speaker 2: this is the party of the Kennedys, for crying out loud.
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  Speaker 2: So my point is that this sudden vetting and the
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  Speaker 2: sudden interest in Barnes only occurs at a specific time,
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  Speaker 2: which brings us to hawk. It's forced to occur from
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  Speaker 2: conservative media. But all of the left wing radicalism that
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  Speaker 2: Francesco Hang has been spewing the last ten years, it's
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  Speaker 2: suddenly coming out, many of them social media posts deleted.
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  Speaker 2: Hong now is trying to do this pivot. And the
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  Speaker 2: thing about a pivot, there's lots of activities in which
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  Speaker 2: you would pivot. You can pivot on a football field.
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  Speaker 2: I got a question for Jason. He won't get this,
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  Speaker 2: even though after I give you the answer, you're going
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  Speaker 2: to know I'm right. Who is the best football player
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  Speaker 2: in terms of pivoting in the history of pivoting. I
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  Speaker 2: know it's a hard thing to come to mind, but
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  Speaker 2: once I say it, you know I was right. Paul Horning,
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  Speaker 2: that's not bad. This guy was faster. So I would
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  Speaker 2: say he's better. I'd say Barry Berry Sanders he was.
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  Speaker 2: Gail Sayers was great out of two before he ripped
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  Speaker 2: up his knees. But Berry Sanders is incredible. He could
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  Speaker 2: at full speed directions. Pivoting another thing that you pivot
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  Speaker 2: in is like ballet, kind of a more athletic version
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  Speaker 2: of picketing. On pivoting, on the other hand, they weigh
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  Speaker 2: like one hundred and five pounds as opposed to a
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: football player who weighs through thirty five. Pivoting, it requires
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  Speaker 2: deafness to pivot. Even if you're not talking about athletic pivoting.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Let's imagine you're pivoting and like changing your tone on
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  Speaker 2: an issue. There are some people Bill Clinton again, master
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  Speaker 2: of this sort of thing. Some are clodlike added. But
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: hang is trying to pivot from the Democratic candidate trying
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  Speaker 2: to impress leftist voters in her own party by being
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  Speaker 2: a Marxist to now running in a swing state in
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  Speaker 2: a general election and having to appeal in people who
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: live to a people who live in manage to watch
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  Speaker 2: sheboyga and lacrosse. So suddenly she's moving away from all
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: of this radical rhetoric. But here's the thing. She's not
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: moving away from radical rhetoric of nine years ago. She's
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: moving away from radical rhetoric of last week. It was
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  Speaker 2: a week and a half ago that she stuck her
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  Speaker 2: big chin out there and claimed that the Madison police
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: shooting of Corey Rwueize was an execution. Execution. So her
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  Speaker 2: staff of handlers decide that we got to put her
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  Speaker 2: out there and have her answer this. I understand that
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  Speaker 2: tactic of you having somebody do an interview with a
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  Speaker 2: hostile interviewer to take this on. I'll tell this story again.
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  Speaker 2: There are some people who wish I would shut up
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  Speaker 2: about it, but it's a good story. Back in nineteen
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  Speaker 2: eighty six or eighty eight, eighty six or eighty eight,
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking here. I think it was eighty eight, there
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  Speaker 2: was an open United States Senate seed in Wisconsin. It was,
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  Speaker 2: as I recall, the prox Meyer seat wasn't running for reelection.
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  Speaker 2: I know what if you're wrong about that's my recollection.
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  Speaker 2: Several Democrats were running. Herb Cole was one of them.
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  Speaker 2: Herb Cole was a millionaire but had never sought political
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  Speaker 2: office before. He was the former chairman of the state
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  Speaker 2: Democratic Party. This was shortly after he bought the bucks.
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  Speaker 2: He's decided I want to be a United States senator.
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  Speaker 2: The former governor Tony Yeah, it was eighty eight. The
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  Speaker 2: former governor Tony Earle was running. I think Garby was running,
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  Speaker 2: maybe somebody else, and a lot of people were questioning
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: whether or not Herb knew enough about anything in order
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: to be a United States senator, since he'd never been
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: involved in any cut of government. I was doing my
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: talk show in Madison then, and while it didn't have
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: a huge following, it had a reputation. Remember there wasn't
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: much talk radio then, and I did a lot of
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: interviews on that show, and I did very tough interviews.
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  Speaker 2: This would never happen today, Well, can't happen today. Herb
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  Speaker 2: is dead. But I mean if there was an equivalent,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: it wouldn't happen now. There's no way a leftist is
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: going to allow somebody to come on a conservative, you know,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: in front of us, say somebody like me and have
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  Speaker 2: me go at him and ask questions. But Cole's people
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: agreed to have Coal or maybe Herb Cole just wanted
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: to do him, so he came on my show. And
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: this was notorious for years. Most people have forgotten other
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: than the people who hear me tell the story every
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  Speaker 2: three years, which is what I do. I haven't told
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: all of this, but at some point I'll tell the
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: whole thing. Somebody suggested to me to give him a
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: pop quiz on the ear. It was not my own idea.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to say who it was. That is
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: another one of those stories. I got to wait a
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: few more years, I think, to say who. It's not
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: that important. Some people would find it interesting, and again
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  Speaker 2: I thought it. I could actually make the case that
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: it was unfair of me to do it, that it
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: was cheap shotting. I could also make the case that
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: it was fair. You have a guy who was going
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  Speaker 2: back to my term earlier, unvetted in terms of his knowledge,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: and my questions were of medium difficulty. I asked several things,
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  Speaker 2: who's the Prime Minister of Israel? I don't remember the
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: other questions. He got sever right, and he missed that
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  Speaker 2: a couple of them. There were all things that a
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  Speaker 2: United States Senator should know, in fairness of the all
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  Speaker 2: things that a United States Senate candidate not yet in
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  Speaker 2: office should have known. Maybe not well anyway, the interview,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: given the fact that Herb flubbed some questions. Tony Earl's campaign,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: another Democrat running in the primary, pulled the audio from
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: that thing and ran an attack ad on Herb. Cole.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Remember Herb had just bought the Bucks and they show
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: a basketball player dribbling and bounce to the ball off
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: his knees. They're playing the audio track of Herb missing
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: these questions. It didn't stop Herb's momentum. He went on
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: and he won the Democrat primary, then he won the
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: general election served in the United States Senate for the
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: period of time that he did under the That's the
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: background here to what Francesca Hang and her people did.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: They said, let's send her nationally on Fox News, not
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: ms NOW, not CNN, not one of these softy places
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: in which is just gonna be a lefty. Let's stand
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: her to Fox News. And I know what they're thinking
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: here is, Okay, we're gonna go on Fox News. But
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do Jesse Waters. You know, he's a
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: pretty tough guy. I'm not gonna do Laura Ingram, she's
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: got a sharp tongue on her. I'm certainly not gonna
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: do Hannity. So I'm gonna go on, We'll do a conservative,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: but let's like do a nice conservative. Well, wouldn't the
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Fox News version of a nice conservative be Dana Perino?
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I'd say, yes, right, if you were a lefty and
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: you were gonna go on and try to survive being
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: interviewed by a conservative, isn't she like the one that
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: you would like go for? Yes, that would be I
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: don't think Bill Hammer. I see, I would not say
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Bill Hammer's a conservative. I don't think I've picked up
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: a political viewpoint on him, have you? Yeah? See, that's
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Whereas Dana actually is somebody who's expressed opinions.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Plus she's a former press secretary for W Bush and
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: so on. We're gonna play this interview. First of all,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I'll give you my conclusion in advance. She was I thought,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: shockingly terrible for somebody who's putting herself out there to
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: be governor of a state. Let's just play a portion
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: of it, and I may interject here, but so I'm
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: not accused of like chopping things up and making her
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: sound stupid. We're gonna play this unedited as it appeared
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: on Fox, so you'll hear Dana Pirino here introducing hang
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: and so on. I'll but in a couple of times
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: to offer comments, but here it.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Is well, Wisconsin, you know I love that state as
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: one of the most competitive toss up states. This November,
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: the primary is less than two weeks away. Polls show
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: my next guest as the Democratic front runner for governor.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: She is a state assembly woman and a Democratic socialist,
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: and she is not shy from far left proposals. Take
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: a listen to this rapid fire. Do you support repealing
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Act ten Yes?
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: Universal childcare yes, free school meals yes, Guaranteed pay leave yes,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: abolishing ice yes, a one year data center moratorium yes,
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: breaking up a big ag yes, public grocery stores yes,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: right to repair yes, legalizing cannabis yes, overturning Citizens United yes,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: a worker's Bill of Rights yes, a free Palestine yes.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: And Fransessica Hangs a candidate for Wisconsin governor, And even
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: yesterday it looks like you will be the nominee as
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: another one of your closest competitors, who is even far
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: behind you, has dropped out of the race. Is there
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: anything in that list of what you told Hassan Piker
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: that you disabowt now? No, Okay. Is there anything in
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: the DSA platform that you disagree with?
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, good. What would that be?
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: Abolishing the Senate?
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: I believe it's nonsensical and non practical at this time.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Would you abolish a Supreme Court?
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: No?
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: I believe in checks and balances?
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, So do you so you consider yourself a democratic socialist?
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Is that correct?
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Would you? Would you defund the Department of War?
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: Define it?
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Take away from the defend from the Defense Department.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: No.
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: I think it's troubling how many times they failed an audit,
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: and they're one of the highest funded agency. And I
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: think that stewardship of taxpayer dollars is incredibly important that
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: where there may be.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're like the any report is like an
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: a minute and fifteen seconds in This sounds to me
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: like Dana is asking a version of AI from two
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: years ago, Like if you had like lefty AI, but
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: two years back, like the first days of chat EPT.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Do you support defunding the Department of War? Define it? Well?
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think you would define defunding the Department
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: of War as defunding the Department of War? How do
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: you define that? And then she starts babbling about they've
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: failed numerous audits. She's not saying anything specific about my
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: own belief is this and listen to how she answered
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: that question. I don't think she knew what the Department
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: of War is. Now maybe she did, but she sounds
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: so stupid in here. Remember Trump changed the name of
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: the Department of Defense back to its original name, the
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Department of War. So then when she gave this definane
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: and I think that she's stalling for I'm trying to
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: figure out exactly what this is. Their interview is being
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: done by remote, so she might have had a staffer
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: who was slipping or something in here to kind of
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: like jog the adult memory that she has in here.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Other than that, each of these questions that are being
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: thrown to her as Nana started to bring up some
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: of the things that she said in the past, radical
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: stuff that she said in the past, and you're getting
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: now in the pivot, not any kind of explanation. But yes,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: no robotic answers. Let's pick up the interview where she's
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: in her vague explanations about the Department of War, which
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: she's now she hasn't said yes or no to whether
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: or not she would defund it, which would, of course
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: if we did, mean that we wouldn't be funding an army, Navy,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: air Force already, or the other things that the Pentagon funds.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Back to the interview, waste.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: Or abuse that we make sure to that the agency.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, would you advocate from public ownership of America's largest
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: corporations are those in Wisconsin?
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: I have to say, first of all, and we are
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: incredibly proud of our Green Bay Packers publicly owned NFL team,
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: But I believe there are some manufacturing and corporation that
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: is irresponsible to have full public control.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Well, like what.
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: No, I think it depends really on the type of
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: mega corporation. We know that here in Wisconsin we'd like
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: to bring more middle manufacturing that when jobs were sent overseas,
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: when there was more desire for profit over the people Wisconsin.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: She's asking her if the government should take over essentially
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: nationalize a business or in the skity of Wisconsin, I
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: guess statilize a business. In other words, just take a
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: major business whatever it would be here in those states
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: of Wisconsin, should the government take it over like in
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Venezuela how they took over the oil company The first
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: thing that she does is she points out the Green
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Bay Packers, which he does have public ownership. It's a private,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: nonprofit corporation, is what it is. It's not really public,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: but members of the public can buy into that private company.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: But the Packers were always that. The Packers weren't and exist.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: They were like the Brewers in which we suddenly took
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: them over. And then she's asked about this and she's
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: giving the most vague, ill defined answers. She said, well,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: in some cases you can't do it, but does it
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: open the door? Well, which businesses would you have us takeover?
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Would you have the state of Wisconsin take over? In ours?
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: We have the state of Wisconsin takeover Kohler. We did
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: the state of Wisconsin take over the bart a lot
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: of restaurants. She hasn't yet said what she wouldn't take over. Now.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: The reason the question is being asked is the Democratic Socialists,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: who are Marxists, believe in government taking over all these things.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: She was asked, for example, in the first interview with
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Hassan Piker, who's a big lefty, would you have government
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: run and groceries? I actually think that would be hilarious.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine a government run round. Let's imagine the
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: City of Milwaukee run in the City of Milwaukee grocery store.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: The City of Milwaukee run grocery store would run about
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: as well as the trolley runs. Imagine. First of all,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: the losses would be massive because there's no way they'd
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: stop anybody from shoplifting. Second, everything I'd be spoiled. You
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: just can You're just a made Anyway, let's get back
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: to the interview that we.
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: Can be selective and put working class people first when
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: it comes to jobs and mega corporations.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Do you think you would be able to recruit corporations
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: to come to Wisconsin to then be taken over by
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: the state government.
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: No. I don't think that it would be responsible for
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: the state to bring in a mega corporation that would
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: potentially be run by the state. I think that we
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: want to create good jobs with good benefits and ensure
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: that people have the freedom to sue the type of
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: life that we would like. And I think when I
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: talked to voters all across the state, it is so
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: much about being able to take care of themselves and
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: their loved ones. There is deep concern about people who
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: get to age with dignity and our state. I care
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: a lot about our seniors and making sure that we're
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: one of the states where there's a great opportunity for
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: great public change.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, so you say people want to take care of themselves,
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: and I agree, but the Socialist program is for the
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: government to take care of people. And I know that
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: you've bristled a little bit about anyone pointing out previous
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: things that you have said, but I just want to
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: show for everybody on the board here this is some
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: of your far left posts. I would say they're pretty
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: far left right. It's, for example, you say abolish the Senate,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: you want ice out of Wisconsin. I understand the abolishing
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: eyes is something you probably still want. But you also
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: said to defund the police four times.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: A second. She's referring here to a post that hanngmade.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: It said that defund the police, and you wrote it
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: four times in a row, to fund the police, defund
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the police, defund the police, defund the police. She wrote
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: that four times in a row. And they're showing this
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: up on the screen here. Now Hoang's little miniature brain.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I'm sure the cogs are spinning around here in which
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: she's going to somehow try to claim that she doesn't
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: want to defund the police anymore, even though she's been
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: talking about defunding the police about as long as she's
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: been breathing.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Back to the interview, fund the police as a first
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: step towards abolishing the police. Now, President Trump won Wisconsin twice.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: It is the ultimate purple state. I set my novel
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: there for a reason. It is the place where you
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: have to have the most appeal to both sides or
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: to independent voters. Why shouldn't people take you at your
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: word when you say that you want to defund the
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: police and go towards abolishing it.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Dana.
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: First of all, I have to say thank you so
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: much for featuring my home state in your novel. And
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: I'd relieve that as a as a democratic socialist, what
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: that means is that I would like to put working
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: class people first over now.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Just defunding a police, working class people first. I think
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: that you're going to enter you're about to enter into
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: a general election, likely with Tom Tiffany, the Republican. That's
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: not going to be an easy race. It's going to
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: be very easy for people to put up on the
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: board and say you said abolish the Senate, defund the police,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: abolish the police, and why should they not believe that
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: you would want to do that, that you would try
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: to do that if you became governor.
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: I believe that people can evolve. We meet Trump voters.
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: From previous elections who now would like to vote for me,
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: who have a sign in their yards.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: So needs to evolve the voter.
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: The governor cannot defund the police, and I won't defund
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: the police. So you have the things we know prevent crime,
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: like getting guns off of osity, making sure there is
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: victims for justice, that there are places where our kids
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: can go after school and thrive. We can't be tough
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: on causes. We have to be tough on causes if
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: we would like to be tough onund Okay, I.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Mean this answer is terrible. Now, Admittedly, as I say,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: this is a radical who got to where she is.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: She's gonna win the Democratic primary by being a radical,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: and being a radical means running around and screaming to
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: fund the police, to fund the police, to fund the police,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: especially when you're running against mainstream candidates who are different
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: levels of an apt But now she can't obviously run
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: defund the police when she's standing there runs running against
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Tom Tiffany. The overwhelming majority of Democrats don't want the
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: police defunded. You've got to do better than this. And
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: explaining the first of all, she said, well, you know,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: people evolve, and I think data Preno was legitimately confused.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Do you mean the Trump voters are supposed to evolve
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: and now know that we should defund the police? You
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: saying that you've evolved like from when you were saying
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: this three weeks ago, and you're getting these little scripted
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: little things that she's supposed to say that she delivers
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: without any sense of authority or command, and she clearly
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: hasn't figured out at all how she sticks explain away
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: the fact that she's held these positions for as long
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: as she's had and by the way, all of which
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: are still held by the organization in which she's a
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: proud member of, the DSA. Back to as I said earlier,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: this sounds like if you had a communist little AI
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: and you told the AI try to sound not like
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: a communist. This is what it would have like three
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: years ago. Spat it out. She doesn't even sound human.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: It sounds like one of those fake AI voices. That
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: you get when you call on the phone somewhere and
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: they're trying to determine how they're going to route your
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: call around if.
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: On the police. And I've reminded folks that I won't
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: fund the police.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, well that will be certainly it'll be something that
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: your opponent brings up. Here's a poll from Marquette, always
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: a good poll. This is Tom Tiffany up at forty
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: three to forty if you put you two up together.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: He also has quite a fundraising advantage. But I would
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: say that the DSA candidates have a lot of volunteerism.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Do you welcome the DSA endorsement and or volunteers to
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: help on your campaign?
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Well, I did not pursue the national DSA endorsement.
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: My home chapter in Madison, we were so proud to
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: run the free school Meals campaign to make sure that
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: our kids didn't have launched.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: It all speak there's.
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: We're talking about the issues, and I think that in
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: when it comes to my opponent, it's it's wonderful to
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: see that we have more donors and individual donations that
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: he does. That we already are up in those numbers
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: because donations from seventy two out of seventy two counties
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: every state in the country, and the fact that our
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: ground game is a multi racial, multi generational, multi faith.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Or read long feature pieces. I just want to compliment you.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: I've read pieces where you've talked to Trump, where the
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: reporters talk to Trump voters and say she's very affable.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: They kind of like what you have to say. It's
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: going to be an interesting race. We will cover it.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: I have one last question for you. Are you personally
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: a Due's Pain member to the DSA.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: In my home chapter in Madison.
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: I have been since twenty twenty, and I believe that
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: as a Democratic Socialist, you know, I'm less defined by
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: just one organization, but clearly our bipartisan coalition means that
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: I'm more defined by being a good single mom, that
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: I am a service industry worker, that I truly believe
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: in legislation that helps everyone.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: And okay, okay, okay, fine, okay, that's and that's all
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: we need to hear. As I say, I thought that
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: was just terrible. This is not Obama we're running against, who,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: by the way, was the same thing. He had all
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: of those beliefs. He was simply smoother at covering many
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: of them and smoother at explaining them through. This would be, say,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: the antithesis of Obama. It's not even Kamala. Kamala didn't
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think ever really has any beliefs at all.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: She was a big lefty in California because you needed
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: to be a big lefty. She tried to sound like
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: more of a moderate when she got the Democratic nomination
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: for governor because that's how she needed to sound. She
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: simply wasn't any good at public speaking. What you have
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: in Huang is a true believing radical. Though she's asked
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: the question, are your dues paying member of the DSA, Yes,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I paid in my local chapter. Well that's what you
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: pay do. She's been a member of the Democratic Socialism
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: of America, which has by the words name socialists in it.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: This is a Marxist organ I'm getting blowback, by the way,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: by saying that she's a Marxist. Who do you idiots
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: think founded socialism? He's one of the three founders of socialism.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Marx that's where it comes from. He's clearly the founder
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: of communism. I love to get this explanation of the
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: differentiation between Marxism and socialism anyway, I thought she was
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: terrible at this, and given the fact that they made
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: this her big first national interview. And as I said,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Dana Prino's very very nice in dealing with dealing with her.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: You know, she brings up the fact I set my
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: book in Wisconsin, and she allows long to say, oh,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: thank you. You See. I listened to this and it
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: sounded to me like she was interviewing a sixth grader,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: you know, some sixth grader from Shorewood whose mom and
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: dad are both big time lefties and kind of a
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: smart sixth grader, but does it have any depth of knowledge?
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: And then the quiet, clipped way in which she speaks,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: and then she gets into her background. I'm a service
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: industry worker. That's right, she is. She's a bartender at
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: some point. And this gets back to my whole vetting thing.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: As the media examines these candidates that are running, where
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: is the cover over the fact that in her entire life,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Francesca Hang has never done or run anything. The only
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: business that she ever ran was a Raymond noodle shop.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: By the way, I give everybody slack who fails in
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: running a Raymond noodleshop. I just cannot have met I
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: just cannot imagine going into any store that sells like
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Raymond noodles. I remember Raymond like when I was a kid.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: It was like these packs that you can get for
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: like sixty nine cents and you put it into boiling water.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: It was like cup of soup. Maybe it's advanced beyond that,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: but that's what I remember Raymond as it was like
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: the food for people who had absolutely no money at all,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: or college students like me who didn't know how to
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: cook well. She ran a Raymond noodle restaurant and it
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: went under in Madison. Now, I think the one place
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: you can make one of those places work would be saying, Mattison,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: you've got a lot of college students and a lot
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: of people who eat that kind of junk. She failed.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: She failed running a noodle shop. I made fun of
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Tony Evers for being just a governmental hack his entire life.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: At least he was that he was the head of
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: the state Schools school system, the State Department of Public Instruction.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Before that, he was a district administrator. Before that, he
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: was a local school superintendent. It was all just government.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: But at least he had that her own Raiman shops.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: She didn't even have to get hired cheet her husband
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: started this. This is like below the level of managing
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: a burger king, So now she's like a bartender. I'm
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: from the service industry. So we're going to turn over
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: the entire state of Wisconsin, massive governmental operation, thousands of employees,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: requirement to hire a cabinet, to put together a budget,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: to respond to instant crises when they occur. To this
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: barely eloquent. Eloquen's not even the right word. Barely coherent,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I would say autumn sounding naive Marxist. And as I say,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: for Democrats who may have misgivings over the fact that
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: she's going to and she's going to win their primary,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: it's going to be a lenst, I would say, over
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: sixty percent, how did they end up with this? And
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: I think it's just like a lot of regular role
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: just Democrat voters sitting there in Green Bay, who have
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: no clue as to how terrible she is, and they're
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: gonna be forced with, Okay, we've got to back her
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: because we don't want the Republicans to win. I don't
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: want Tom Tiffany to be in I don't want to
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: go back to Republican days, and they're gonna have to
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: back this income poop who could become our governor. As
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: I say, there are a lot of Marxists in Wisconsin.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: You know, there's the state Senate district I live in.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Chris Larson. I think you know he's an endorsed hang,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: he's one of them. I've spoken to him. He's a man,
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: one s compared to this woman. They could have run
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: any number of people from that wing of the party
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: who have at least some experience and some knowledge and
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: some insight into state government and operations, and generally, can
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: you know, with some degree of eloquence put out you know,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders, he could talk a good game in putting
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: out the Marxist point of view, or Liz Warren one
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: of them instead this And the answer is the media
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: doesn't want to vet lefties, so they're out there and
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: they're not protecting Democrats from themselves. And as they say,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: in some instances, this can work to the advantage of
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: our side. The downside, of course.
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: Is.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: The scrutiny, with the lack of scrutiny, will continue all
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: the way through the general election, and it's going to
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: have to be those of us on the right through
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: social media and other platforms to try to bring this
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: to people's attention. One of the many, many, many zillions
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: of posts in Francesco hank this is abut this one
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: admitted LIUs from twenty nineteen, But this shows you exactly
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: where she's coming from and exactly her worldview. She posted
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: I had two bites of my kids cheat. She said
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: she was in Black River Falls. For those of you
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: who are not from Wisconsin, Black River Falls is roughly
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: one hundred one hundred and twenty might be a little
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: high in that range miles from Madison north and to
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: the west. Black River Falls would between Lacrosse and Eau Claire,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: but a little bit further to the east. It's just
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: off of a mix up the interstates over there. I
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: think it's ninety four that heads towards Eclaire Black River Falls.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Many from Wisconsin obviously know where it is. Anyway, it's
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: off the beaten path. It's one of those small small
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: cities that's bigger than it actually is because it's the
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: biggest small city in the little region that's in Black
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: River Falls. I ate two bites of my kids cheeseburger
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: out of Culver's and Black River Falls and told at
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: and told him they ran out of ice cream. Mostly
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: just wanted to leave because I was on the verge
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: of an anxiety attack. Too many old white people who
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: didn't think we spoke English. This is a woman who
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: was in have an anxiety attack because she was surrounded
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: by white people. Can you imagine if some white Republican
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: posted that they were in in a rest are the
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: African American side of Milwaukee, and oh, I was having
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: anxiety because I was surrounded by black people. Not to mention,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: I don't you know she's implying that she was being
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: given the sinky. I don't even believe that. The number
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: of Asian Americans who are in rural Wisconsin is extremely high,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: in part because of the mang resettlement that occurred. You
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: know in the nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties. There are
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of Laotian American, Wan Americans and other Asian
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Americans in these smaller towns in Wisconsin. She would not
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: have been a novelty. I don't that anybody was looking
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: as cancer. What would you attract any attention. She's out
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: of the middle of Alaska, she's a Black River falls.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: For heaven's sakes, she posted this back then because this again,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: it's just the kind of thing that lefties do. See
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: racism everywhere. Well, as I said, these posts, she's been
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: deleting them right and left. But you know, that's the
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: thing about social media. You can't delete anything, which kind
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: of gets us to this story, which I think sort
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: of relates. I remember, I can't put a finger on it.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: I remember talking about the website Ashley Madison a few
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: years ago. Somebody else must have been caught up on it.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Ashley Madison is a website for this is what it's for.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: It's for married people who want to cheat. You know,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: all these married guys will always claim they've never heard
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: of it, but maybe you just have you heard of
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Ashley Madison. You have? I mean they advertised rather aggressively.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: It's a dating site that says will anonymously set you
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: up with other people who want to cheat. Maybe it's
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: when there was a data breach. But I remember talking
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: about this three or four years ago, which I say,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I suppose I was a married guy. Why in the
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: world were you possibly risk going on these sites. There's
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: something about the Internet that makes people think that somehow
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: nobody can ever see. It's like all these people that
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: look at child pornography on the Internet, but they never
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: would have sent for this via mail order. Sending it
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: for via mail order, you're almost certainly not going to
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: be caught. The only way are going to be caught
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: as if the mailman opens up your mail in there.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: How you know you're the only person in your house.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: You're on the Internet. It's the least private place in
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: the world, but somehow people think it's private. So the
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: story on js online goes into some members of the
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: legislature from Wisconsin who have been caught being on Ashley
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Madison because they say there was a data breach and
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: the names of all the users is out. So they're
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: interviewing these people, Republicans and Democrats, and they're babbling away
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: trying to explain why it was that they that they
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: signed up state represent to Patrick Snyder, Republican from the
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Wassaw area, had accounts on the sites, including Ashley Madison
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: an Adult friend Finder, despite being married for more than
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: four decades. I'm not hanging my I'm not changing my life,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: read his account an Adult friend Finder, which says it
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: was created in two thousand and nine and lasted until
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: last years in twenty sixteen, the year he was first
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: elected to the legislature. So here's this guy. Okay, he
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: got himself elected the legislature. I about to might get up,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: miss better get off these sites. He never has dawned
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: on him in two thousand and nine that I might
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: do something like run for the legislature. I just want
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: to improve it to the tune of one woman. David
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Liner is a former Catholic priest and previous director of Wisdom,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: a statewide network made up of mainly faith based groups,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: is running in the Democratic primary Assembly District twenty one
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: in southern Milwaukee County. Liners had an Ashley Madison account
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: which read, I have been responsible and careful my whole life.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: I'd like to venture outside the lines for once ask
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: whether voters care or should care about politicians' personal lives
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: and treatment of their spouses. One professor of political science
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: said it is a relevant question in light of Graham
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Plattner's implosion as the front running Democratic candidate for the
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: United States Senate in main So now they get into
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: the specific Snyder sixty nine sure of the Assembly Committee
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: on Children and Families He was previously a congressional staffer
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: for then US Representative Sean Duffy and a radio host
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: for WSAU O Wasaw station. Snyder is expected to face
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Democratic challenger John Crawler Marathion County Board supervisor November. Snyder
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: has warned that gay marriage is a threat to the
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: institution of marriage and could essentially be used to justify polygamy. See,
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: they'll always do this as a conservative, a conservative gets
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: caught with his pants down or in this case, on
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: adult friend Finder or whatever, they'll bring up like right
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: wing things that they've said on social issues. I look
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: forward to setting up our first rendezvous. Here's the other
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: reason theories is that you shouldn't post on these things.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: There is no way that you can post on one
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: of these sites and not say something that's gonna make
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: you look like an absolute idiot when someone sees it.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: I just assume then if I'm doing anything like this,
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: someone's gonna see it. This is where I just I'm
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: so fortunate that I live a dull life. Now I'm gell.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Okay here, Snyder, married all these years, doesn't want to
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: divorce his wife, but he's decided in his old age
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: now that he wants to go out and have a fling,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: and he's too chicken to like publicly. You know, he's
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: too chicken to go out. He lives in Wahsaw, Like
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: go down to Stevens Point and hang out in a
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: bar and meet somebody. So I'm gonna go on this side.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: We can WoT nobody's ever gonna find out that you
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: were on Ashley Madison. Snyder said he was quote ready
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: to remove lonely from your life. When the Ashley Madison
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: data breach occurred in twenty fifteen, it had thirty six
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: million users. I would say thirty six million losers. No,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: as they say, the state of breach is ten years old.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: But now the media is deciding that they're gonna go
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: back and see whether or not any Wisconsin politicians are
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: on here. Not like we get to David Liners. He's
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: the Democrat running for the State Assembly in southern Milwaukee County.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Liners is running for a seat in District twenty one,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: which includes Oak Creak and part of Greenfield. He with
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: face off against Oak Creekmey or Dan Berkovich in next
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: week's Democratic primary. This is the state the seat that
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Jesse Rod Reague is Republican is held in the Assembly
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: for many, many years. Jesse is not running for reelection
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: as a Republican running in the district. On a post
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: that Liners is one of the two Democrats running, Liners's
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: campaign website says he has meant nearly four decades serving
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: communities as pastor, community organizer, nonprofit leader, and that he
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: and his wife have called Milwaukee home for almost thirty years.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Or raise our family and put down deep roots. Moral
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: clarity is a pillar of this campaign and I and
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: one I hope you were able to get behind to
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: change our politics, Liners wrote in a March fifth Facebook post.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: The data breaks showed Liners had an account on Ashley Madison.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: I have been a pretty dull, responsible guy. I'd love
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: to break out of that, at least a little. I'd
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: like to find someone interesting and understanding for a long term,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: occasional relationship. They're very slang terms it you're here for that.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: As somebody who's always been single. Whenever I hear these
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: married guys, I just enjoy listening like they're see you're
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: I had another producer before I had Jason, who was
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: married Paul, and I just always warned him, don't strew
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: things up. I don't care how tempted you ever get.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Don't do it. You're just gonna become one of these
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: groups that I'm making fun of here. I'm assuming that
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: you know enough not to do any of these things,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: right yeah, well, I mean, I'm not encouraging anybody to
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: get divorced. But if it's over this trying to do
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: this middle ground stuff and then posting on the inner
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: there's just nothing good that's coming to this. It's like
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: the worst of both worlds. I mean that you know
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: and don now I'm down there in Florida. I mean,
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: the people that I hang out with are almost all
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: either divorced or widowed or where's something like that or
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: just that's what you see. I mean, I'm, for heaven's sakes,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: I'm nowhere near the villages, but I mean, you get
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: the picture. The term I hear all the time is
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: side piece. Did that come out of the mob and
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: the mafia called them goomaz which is an Italian term
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: for something. But I would hear like side piece, that's
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: the slang that's used for somebody male or female. I
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: suppose it has something, you know, off on the side.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: The thing about that is he usually is just somebody
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: meets somebody and the person finally is getting somebody who's
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: like showing sexual interest in them for the first time
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: in thirty years, and it sort of happens. But to
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: go on the internet and posted look, this, to me
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: is like a different level than these hookup sites like
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Tinder or even like the romance sites like match or
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: What's the other one, Harmony and all of that. This
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: is I mean because this is specific. You know those sites.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: I'm sure people who are married go on there and
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: claim that they're single. I think most of those sites
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: require you to be single, but there's nobody's checking anything.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: But the Ashley Madison thing is specifically for people both
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: sides who are married. I just even if you were
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: desperate to cheat, unless you're just somebody who has nothing
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: to lose and you either couldn't care less if your
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: wife dumped you or maybe she has. I'm doing this
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: in the guy's perspective. I'm sure you know there have
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: to be as many women out of as men in
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: order for the site to work. Speaking of sleeves bags,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Tierman Spencer is now a convicted felon. I've been chronicling
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: this story from the period in which it began, Tierman
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Spencer was Milwaukee had a city attorney for decades. He
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: was very good city attorney. City attorneys is a position.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: It's like it's one of those jobs that you never
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: notice unless something goes wrong. City attorney is not the
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: district attorney. District attorney's criminal prosecution. City attorney is the
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: city's lawyer, you know, gives legal advice an all manner
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: of things to the city and so on. Grant Langley
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: was a city attorney forever and ever and ever and
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: did a fine job at it. He's a white guy,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: and people decided, we can't, well, you can't have all
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: these white guys running Milwaukee. We pretty much don't have
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: any white guys running Milwaukee anymore. But it's during this
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: time the Tierman Spencer, who was African American and was
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: a local attorney and hang around and various circles, decided
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: that he was going to run attorney. There was no
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: basis for him running other than the fact that he
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: wasn't a white guy like Grant. He beat him, and
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: from the moment that he got in there, it was
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: an absolute disaster. So he inherits this office of attorneys
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: that's in there, and immediately stories come out about he's
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: sexually harassing women. All this incompetence is going on, He's
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: firing people right and left. Court filings are coming in late.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: It was one story after another after another after another,
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: and most of them were reported by the way on
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: js online. My going back to the premise of this
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: whole first segment that I'm doing here is the lack
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: of vetting. Tirman Spencer had no business ever being the
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: city attorney of the City of Milwaukee, but nobody did
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: an anti actual scrutiny into his total lack of accomplishment
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: and what he's going to try to do with the job.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: He tried to keep his private law practice going on.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: At the same time there was all allegations of double dipping, etc. Etc. Eventually,
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: he had a run for reelection and a more qualified opponent,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: in fact, another white guy, Evan goike who's a white
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: lefty who was in the state legislature from Milwaukee, son
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: of Gary Goiky For those of you who go way
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: back here and again Simmon, his platform was basically, I'm competent.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Tierman Spencer's an idiot, and Evan Goikey won. Criminal charges
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: came against Taterman Spencer. In this case, he was alleged
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: of misconduct of public office, fraud, the relegations of all
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: sorts of inappropriate conduct of a jury has convicted him
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: of misconduct and office of felony. He is now steering
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: at prison. See the thing of it is Tterman Spencer
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: ran to be city attorney because A it's a pretty
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: good salary. In b he thought he'd be able to
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: use that physition to enrich himself and his buddies on
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: the side. It's the same thing that nonprofits do, except
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: he was doing it in the glare of public daylight
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: by being an actual public elected official. And the first
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: part actually worked. He was doing all of these things.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: The problem is there are numerous entrenched people in there,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: and also people in the city of Milwaukee, white and black.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: Will realized you have to have a competence city attorney.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Did you attention to all of this? And he was
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: so brazen and all of it that his criminal conduct
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: was fairly obvious. And I think the likelihood is that
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: the age of sixty nine, he's probably going to do
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: time for this. You're listening to the Mark Belling podcast
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: this is the Mark Belling podcast. Let's update the Tony
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Romo story. Tony Romo the lead analyst for CBS sports
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: coverage of the National Football League, long time starting quarterback
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: for the Dallas Cowboys. Great story. Went to a low
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Division I school Eastern Illinois, went to high school in Burlington,
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: made it all the way to the NFL, became a star,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: and then got onto CBS. They made him the number
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: one analyst that he eventually got an incredible contract of
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: seventeen million dollars a year to work maybe thirty games
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: a year. He was back in Wisconsin and a half
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: ago to play in the state amateur golf tournament, which
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: is in West bed Rome was a pretty good golfer.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: He was driving back, from what we could tell from
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: the body cam of the police officer, is driving back
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: to Burlington to see his grandparents, and it sounded like
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: one of his kids was flying into town to meet
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: up with the grandparents, but that was all kind of vague.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: He was pulled over on by the way. This story
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: what the national media coverage of this story and some
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: of the YouTube versions of the story are so screwed up.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: It just I've read stories in which it said he
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: was on the Home Bridge. It's not on the Home bridge.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: He was on the high Rise Bridge. I forty three
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: is not the Home bridge. That's the extension of seven
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: ninety four is the Home bridge. The Home Bridge is
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: the one that the lefties want to keep tearing down,
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: even they don't want to tear down the high Rise Bridge. Anyways,
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: pulled over and he was tested. To my knowledge, the
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: blood test has not yet come back. If it has,
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: I've just missed that. And again I'm doing this podcast
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: on Monday. My own belief is there's a chance he's
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: going to be un under the legal limit. He's in
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: other words, okay on drunk driving. I think that he
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: showed signs of mixing alcohol with pills, which can enhance
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: the alcohol. And if you saw the video, he's obviously
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: a guy who's back is just destroyed, as many pro
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: former pro football players are. He was almost immobile and
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: trying to get out of the thing. My guess is
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: that he takes pain pills daily in order to deal
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: with the pain. And anybody who's been part of the
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: you ever use those, realizes that if you drink on
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: top of pain pills, a it's bad for your liver,
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: but b it increases the drowsiness effect that both the
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: pain pills and the alcohol have. Anyway, she's not be
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: convicted of anything yet, and if he comes back under
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: the limit, he might have a case here beating this thing,
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: the whole notion of legal prescription drugs and having him
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: in your system when driving. There is a law against
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: operating while entirely impaired, which is short of the level
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: of intoxication. But he might not even be convicted of
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: OWI for this. But it's clear CBS wants to get
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: rid of him. I want to analyze this. I do
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: not believe a first defense for drunk driving should ruin
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: someone's life. I just don't. I've argued this for some time.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: I believe that we can be too harsh on first timers,
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: and nowhere near harsh enough on these people with three, four, five, six,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: and in some cases nine eleven. Some guy had kind
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: of just got kneeled FORWI for the twelfth time. For
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: most people who get a first offense, they change their
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: behavior because the second offense means jail and all sorts
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: of ramifications. But to knock somebody out of the box
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: for first defense when people who do things by the way,
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: and I would say first defense, in which there was
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: no and this is important first defense and you kill somebody,
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: of course that's serious, but he didn't. I think that
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: there should be a punishment. You suffer the humiliation from it.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: But I don't believe that we should be running around
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: ruining people's lives out of first offense. But CBS is
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: apparently going to their version of fire him.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: I want to explain what's going on here. Tony Romo
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: makes seventeen million dollars a year. If you're paying attention
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: at all to what's going on in sports media, salaries
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: are being slashed right and left. ESPN, for example, bought
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: into the NFL network, and in order to cover their
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: buying into the NFL network, they're firing people like crazy analysts, anchors.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Kyle Ravis has been on ESPN for thirty years of
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: fire them all, right and left. This is something happening
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: across the media. The field that I'm in radio radio stations,
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: including our building, you know, is something of a ghost
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: town in comparison to what it was in the past.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: When Romo signed his contract with CBS, it was after
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: his first season and he came out of the boxes
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: like a savi of an analyst. His thing was he
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: would tell you what was going to happen before it happened,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: and he was always right. Now, this is a period
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: of time in which all the streaming services were getting
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: into football, and you know, Netflix and Amazon were paying
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: big money for analysts. I think El Michaels went over
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: to Amazon and does the Thursday night football. Collinsworth is
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: on two of the networks. There are bidding wards that
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: were going on for these people. Where is Buck is
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: still on Fox? Isn't he? He's on ESPN? And is
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: that where Aikman went also Bucking Achos. I mean, big
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: money was being thrown around to recruit recruiter and under
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: that backdrop, CBS wanted to keep Romo, so they gave
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: him this insane amout a buddy seventeen million. Remember when
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: I was in ash Gosh, I still don't know if
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: I was fired. When I was there, I was fired,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: but they immediately found me a job at another station
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: in the company. So, I mean, was it a transfer firing.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: It's very very unclear things but the company wanted to
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: keep me. But the guy and asked her, she said well,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: you're making too much money. He gave me three. But Phil,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: you gave me three raises in a year, and now
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: you're claiming I make too much money that I can
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: give me the raises fourth. I mean it was that
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: was the early days of you know, the boom and
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: bust of radio and so forth and so on, etcetera.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: But you hear this all the time. If you make
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: too much money, it becomes a good reason to get
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: rid of you. The Proud Miss Tony Romore is a contract.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: So if you fire somebody with a contract, you gotta
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: pay him unless you fire him for cause. So they're
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: going to use this as cause. My guess is the
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: negotiate a way out in which he leaves. CBS gets
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: to keep some of the money because CBS realizes that
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: paying him seventeen And I said earlier about thirty games.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: That's just off the top of my head. I think
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: there's eighteen weeks in the NFL, right, and teams still
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: have only one bye week, correct eighteen, and they do
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: like three preseason games, and there's some weeks in which
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: like the Thanksgiving and a Sunday, so would do two
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: plus the playoffs. It's somewhere between say twenty eight and
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: thirty five. And he does not have other duties with CBS.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: He's not somebody you know, like ESPN. They're on all
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: during the week and they sit on these panel shows
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: and say this, that and the other thing. He just
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: does the games. And there was a report in The
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: Athletic they indicated that his recent as last year, CBS
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: called Romo on the carpet because apparently he's lazy and
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: doesn't prepare. If you've been watching Romo's performance, he's not
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: at all that he was in that first season anymore.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: You know, he's been banged around on the head. Who
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: knows if that's kicking in on him. But secondly, the
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: game has changed in the last three or four years
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: since he stopped playing, in his ability to anticipate what
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: teams call. Teams have really changed up the expectation. The
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: analytics have come in and you do all sorts of
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: things that in the past you would not have done.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: And CBS has decided that we don't need to be
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: paying him seventeen million plus. They're now in love. The
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: new shiny object is JJ Watt, another Wisconsinate. I think
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: they were looking to put him into that slot anyway,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: So they use this as a reason to come down
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: on Tony. If that's the case, I hope they simply
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: negotiate a settlement, because, as I say, I think Tony
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: Romo is a basically good guy who drove after having
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: too much and maybe popped too many pills. And I'm
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: certainly not going to defend that, but he's not a
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: chronic anything, and I think he's a guy who has
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: a good heart. And in the situation in which he
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: was pulled over, I see a lot of people being
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: completely uncomproperative and being jackasses about the whole thing. He
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: wasn't any of those things now of this story. Just
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: a couple of podcasts Ago I talked about this phenomenon
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: of the police impersonator. How long ago was that? Do
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: you remember that one? Jason? There's rather recent. Wasn't it
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: that I talked about police impersonators two weeks ago? Maybe? Well,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: we have one locally Menominee Falls, a guy who is
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: not a cop, has blue and whit lights on his vehicle.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: Blue and whites are the ones you're not allowed to have.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: You can if you're a regular citizen at various lights
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: Almost all sorts of vehicles that have to pull over
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: for something have the amber. There's regulations on what you
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: can and you can't have, But blue and White is
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: restricted to police officers. So the guys driving around an
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Interstate forty one with blue and white's over, who does
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: he pass? An off duty deputy. The off duty deputy
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: sees the blue and whites and sees that the vehicle
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: isn't marked and doesn't look at all like an unmarked
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: vehicle either, and pulls the guy over. It was three
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: point thirty in the morning. They pulled the guy over,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: and he's been charged with impersonating an officer. The guy's
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: name is Stephen spat Spatt, quoting from the report on
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: WYSN dot com. That's the TV station WYSN not ready.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: The officer was provided with a physical description of him
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: from his driver's records. The officer spoke with the front
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: desk at the Let me go back to the beginning,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: another officer found the four. This is the vehicle that
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: the first officer had seen parked at a Planet Fitness
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: on Main Street around three point thirty seven am with
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: nobody inside. So the guy, after passing the off duty
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: officer got away from the scene and another officer was
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: going to investigate and find the vehicle park to a
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: Planet Fitness. The registered owner of the vehicle turned out
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: to be sixty five year old Steven Spat, according to
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: the complaint. The officer, who was provided with a physical
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: description of him from his driver's records. The officer spoke
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: with the front desk of the gym, will confirmed that
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: Spat had checked in and that his membership photo matched
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: the driver's records. They then waited for him to exit
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: the locker room. An officer examined Spat's car, which was
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: mounted near the car which was mounted near the dashboard
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: with multiple switches, a red led light taped to the
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: front dashboard. The complaint states it also had red lights
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: mounted in the upper rear window and a light bar
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: that was consistent with red and blue lights positioned at
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: the highest brake light area. There was also a radio
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: microphone mounted near the ceiling. Now there's YouTube videos of
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: these police and personators out there, and they're all into
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: the staff, all the gear. There's only one reason to
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: have all this gear, and that is to use it.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: So the guy's probably been using and flashing his legs
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: and doing all this stuff for some time. He just
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: happened to be doing it. Here's got the lights going
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: and everything as he's going up the interstate when he
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: passes a cop. As I was discussing a couple of
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: weeks ago, this is a really weird personality disorder. On
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: the one hand, it's good that somebody actually does want
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: to be a cop in this time in which people
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: are out there trashing cops right and left, like Francesca Hawk.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: But when you see people of this age, is I mean,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: I think probably different. Now. Every kid play boy at
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: least played cops and robbers or played police and did
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: stuff like that when they were a kid playing police
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: pretending you're a police officer. Who's the one at forty
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: and fifty years later? And why, I mean, this is
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: a lot of effort. He's buying all the lights. You've
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: gotta have to hook all this stuff up. And you
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: see some of these people when they're pulled off, they
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: didn't have gear like first aid kids sitting in the background.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: So this is this. When waiting for Spat, the officer
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: spoke with the off duty deputy. He reported Spat driving
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: on I forty one. The deputy said Spat in his ford.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Said Spat in his ford drove up, pulled in front
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: of him, and activated his red and blue lights while
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: slowing down. He said spat car went into lane two
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: and passed him at around ninety miles an hour. The
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: complaint said the deputy noticed Spat's ford had a spotlight
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: with red led lights mounted to the upper rear window area.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: As Spat passed and moved in front of him, Spat
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: turned on red and blue flashing lights near where the
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: rear brakes would be. Spat then slowed down in front
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: of him when appeared to be an attempt to get
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: the deputy to slow down. Spat then got off near
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: Pilgrim Road so he it looks like he's pulling the car,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: but then rather than actually get out, since he's not
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: a cop, that was enough for him, and he gets
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: off in Pilgrimage and leaves. So chances are this is
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: what this guy does. The officer waiting for Spat found
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: him on his way out. Spatt admitted that the ford
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: belonged to him and that he drove I forty one
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: to get to the parking lot. The complaint states, Spat
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: said the red and blue lights were for directing traffic
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: in a flea market in Florida. Okay, Now, I will
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: say this, this is a better answer than Francesca Han
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: gave to Dana Perino in that it's a very specific response.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: But obviously many things don't add up. I by the way,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: I can imagine in some of these flea markets in Florida,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: you actually would need to direct traffic. Some of them
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: zillions and zillions and zillions of people go to. But
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: do you need red and blue lights for them as
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: supposed to say, a flashlight or something amber or just
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: a guy standing outside, you know, waving his armor round
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: like copstew So I mean, the story doesn't hold up
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: secondly in Florida. So he's got these lights because he
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: directs traffic at a flea market in Florida. But you're
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: on the interstate and Monomoy falls at three o'clock in
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: the morning when you're when you're activating them, there's no
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: flea market route. But as I say, it's an attempt
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: here at a response. You know, he was then placed
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: under arrest. He still claimed the lights are for traffic
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: control at a flea market in Florida. Well around the
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: He was released in Waukeshaw County Circuit Court on a
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: three thousand dollars signature bond. He is accused of impersonating
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: a peace officer. That is a felony. My guess is
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: that they're gonna pleae this thing down. He doesn't have
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: any other record of wisconsint of this, but we don't
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: have access to multi state records. I did run him
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: through a background check of my own through various services
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: and found that he actually is. I don't know where
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: he lives exactly now, but he he's got a background
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: in Tampa and Clearwater. That's the Tampa Bay area. Clearwater
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: is one of the cities. He has a LinkedIn post
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: in which he lists himself as a pizza driver for
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: a pizza place and Clearwater flow to sixty six year
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: old guys a pizza delivery guy down there. There's also
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: a place in which you said that he was a
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: salesman for mobility equipment that's like the automated wheelchairs and
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: all that. Well, my guess is that he wasn't selling
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: any of them. So he's owned the delivering pizzas and
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: now maybe he's got family up here. He headed up
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: here and he's up here and he's activating the lights.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: He's got all the indications of being basically you should
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: pat two. One is forward a big l He just
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: seems like a loser. Is he a harmless loser or not? Well,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: here's the thing. Some of these people are real creeps.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: The other thing is it's really dangerous. Imagine you're pulling
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: somebody over who is a criminal who has drugs in
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: the car or a warned. They might not know that
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: you're a fake cop. You might, he might he could
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: pull that out and shoot him. You don't know what
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get into with this. And then there are
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: people who are known to pull this over and they
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: maybe looking for women or people to take advantage of
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: or somebody. Now, this guy apparently isn't even a very
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: good look you know, a good looking fake cop good
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: in terms of making himself actually look like one. But
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: in some cases people don't know, So I don't know
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: if he's somebody just turning the lights on for the
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: jollies and this little thing will deter him. These some
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: of these people are like child porn. They just can't
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  Speaker 2: stop doing it. There's a really famous one. Do you
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: know what Jeremy to Wit. He's in internet legend. He's
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: been convicted of this like nine ninety times down in Florida,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: and there's YouTube videos of all the times that he's
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: getting caught. They finally he's been caught and convicted and
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: slapped on the wrist so many times. He's now been
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: sent to prison for years and he's in prison. And
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: the latest thing is his wife. You know you're in prison,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: Your phone calls are monitored and there's subject to public
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: records requests. His wife dumps someone over the phone. And
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: Jeremy to It is something of a legend down there,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: and he would be the extreme example of the police impersonator.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, these people are so weird that I think
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: there's a level of dangerousness to it. And if you
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  Speaker 2: want to deter it, give him at least ninety days
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: in jail here, and that I would think would knock
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: it out of most people, other than those that are
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: simply obsessed with doing these kinds of things. On a
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: more troubling criminal level, this Milwaukee woman who's now been
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: arrested on charges of killing her seven month old baby.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: The criminal complaint indicates, based on statements from the boyfriend
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: who lives with her, that the woman several times attempted
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: to smother the infant because she couldn't stand the fact
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: that he was crying. She offered various excuses for how
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: he died, but it appears fairly strongly that she indeed
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: did smother him. I'm going to quote from the js
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: online report. Mackenzie Critton criittn. Twenty two is charged with
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  Speaker 2: physical abuse of a child repeated acts causing death. At
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  Speaker 2: about eleven twenty am July twenty seventh, Critin called nine
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  Speaker 2: to one one. I reported that her seven month old
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: baby was not moving or respond to. Dispatcher instructed Critin
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: to perform CPR to first astound has arrived. Milwaukee Police
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: officers responded to Criton's residence on North twenty fifth Street
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: about two minutes later and found the Milwaukee Fire Department
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: person out performing CPR in the infant, who was pulseless
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: and not breathing. About twenty minutes later. Twenty minutes after
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: twenty minutes of CPR, the first responders regained a feint
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: pulse in transport of the baby to Children's Hospital the
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: Children's Wisconsin. The infant riot of Children's at twelve o
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: two pm. Medical staff continued life saving efforts about twenty
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: four minutes with their baby remain pulses and was pronounced dead.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: No autopsy conducted July twenty eighth found no evidence of
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: disease or congenital abnoormoralities which would explain the death. The
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: examination found injuries that would explain the no injuries that
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: would explain nothing. That infant suffocation requires very little pressure
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: and injuries would not be expected. Before the baby was
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: taken to the hospital, Critton told police she woke up
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: herround five am, fed the infant a bottle, changed the
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: baby's diaper, and placed the child in a car seat
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: to sleep before going back to bed. Red flag here.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: Obviously you're inside the home, but you're using a car
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: seat to put the child to bed. Is there a crib?
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: She said. She woke up again her aunt eleven twenty am,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: used the bathroom and then found the baby unresponsibly not breathing.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: Police then interviewed the infant's grandmother, I think earlier, said boyfriend. Grandmother,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: who said she witnessed and smothered the baby on June twelfth,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: at placing her hand over the infant's nose and mouth
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: because the baby would not stop crying. The grandmother said
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: she immediately took the infant away after noticing the baby's
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: lips had turned blue, and kept the child with her
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: for the rest of the day. She told investigators she
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: never reported the incident to police, but feared Crittin would
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: smother the infant again. A responding officer also observed that
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: Criton showed no emotion was when first responders for farm
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: CPR or during the ambulance ride to Children's. Based on
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: these observations, the officer asked Critin whether anything else had happened.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: Critton allegedly replied, I got frustrated and admitted she intentionally
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: pressed the baby's face into her chest for about five
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: minutes until the infant stopped breathing. She also admitted she
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: had smothered the baby before and believed the infant would
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: always come back. At about twelve thirty am, the cactives
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: interviewed a family friend who described Critton as like an
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: aunt to the infant. She told that the investigator she
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: had previously seen Crittin shake the baby so much, so
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: violently that the infant made a rattling noise until the
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: child stopped breathing. She also said she witnessed Critten strike
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: the infant in the face. I don't need to go on.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: I know some people are going to be troubled hearing that.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: Here's why I bring this story up. The difference between
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: this and abortion is seven months. This is somebody who
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: had a baby who either was unbelievably stupid night knowing
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: how babies are between zero and three, what do they do?
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: They cry? And between zero and one they cry all
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: the time, and they wake up in the middle of
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: the land and they cry, and they cry, and they
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: cry and they cry, and the cry. You either can
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: handle that or you can't. And if you can handle that,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: you're not somebody that's able to have a child. If
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: you're a two parent family with both in place, it's
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: easier to deal with because sometimes dad takes the child
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: and sometimes mom takes the child. But obviously I can
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: be a frustrating thing, and for people that are not
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: capable of handling it, they end up doing anything to
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: make the child shut up. I believe this mentality is
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: a direct result of our societal exception acceptance rather of abortion,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: and I think the legal system and our society views
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: it that way. We're going to monitor and follow up
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: in this case as it goes along. What we have
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: found in the past, and what I continue to believe
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: is going to happen, is that mothers who kill their
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: children when they are very young rarely get the same
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: type of punishment that other cold blooded killers face. If
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: in this same neighborhood North twenty fifth Street in Milwaukee,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: some guy beats the hell out of a child that
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: he sees on the street just because he's a crook,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: he's likely to face life in prison. Most people who
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: deliberately kill someone, or even kill someone while being incredibly
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: reckless without the intent of killing, at least gets say
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: forty years sixty years to life. When mothers kill their
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: own infants, they are often treated more sympathetically, particularly when
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: they are young. Now, why would murdering somebody who's seven
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: months old get you more lenient treatment than if you're, say, fifteen,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: And I know what the answer is without admitting it,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: people say to themselves, well, it's not that much different
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: than abortion, is it. Seven months is all the difference?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: If you can kill your baby eight and a half
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: months into development, when it's still inside the womb. How
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: different is it. Maybe this woman regrets that she didn't
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: have an abortion, maybe she views this as an abortion.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: But as we've accepted abortion, and then we accepted partial
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: birth abortion, and then we've taken the position that most
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: leftists take that every single abortion, no matter how late
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: in a development, is perfectly fine. And the mother's choice
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: or the law, with law in the state of New York,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: that you can abort the baby while still in the
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: process of delivering birth, it doesn't take a great leaf
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: to then justify the actual murdering of your live child.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: We'll see how this plays out, but my prediction is
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: that she's not going to be doing I'm going to
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: predict she gets less than fifteen years. And this is
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: one in which I hope that one of my predictions
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: for once is wrong. Real quickly, let's highlight this story.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: It is now up to seven water systems in different
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: states in the Midwest that have been attacked by an
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: internet breach. What's believed to be happening here is attackers,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: some suspect that they're from Iran, it's obviously not been
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: pinpointed yet, are using cyber attacks to go after water
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: systems and wastewater treatment plants. I want to requote from
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: the report in the Epic Times. Michigan has joined a
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: list of at least seven states that have reported cyber
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: attacks on their water systems over the past week. Dale George,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: director of communication for the Michigan Department of Energy, Great
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: Lakes and Energy, said Michigan received the FBI has noticed
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: the states last week warning of an attempt to tamper
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: with operational technology at water systems. Following the notification, were
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: received a small number of reports from Michigan communities indicating
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: activity consistent with what federal agencies described. The FBI said
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: that from July twenty seventh to July thirtieth, water and
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: wastewater utility companies in at least seven states had had
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: reported incidents. Now, apparently the common denominator here is that
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: all of the communities hit. We're using a product made
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: by a Milwaukee company, Rockwell Automation. One of the products
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: that they have is they operate the automated systems that
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: control wastewater systems where the computer is telling the technology
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: to do this and this with regard to the treatment
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: and so on. Apparently somebody has hacked into that specific
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: system and is now remotely attacking communities that are utilizing
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: this system. I'll quote the specifics on that the agency
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: set attackers have targeted the Internet facing Rockwell Automation and
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: Alan Bradley Micrological eleven and fourteen hundred programmable logic controllers.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: After gaining remote access, the attackers changed passwords and Internet
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: protocol addresses. Now my thoughts on this. People have been
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: talking about cyber attacks and kind of yawn forever. We
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: know that some of the most secure big tech firms
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: in America have been hacked. I mean the number of
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: times in which I opened an account on some account
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: that I he oh, there's a data bridge. Do you
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: want to change your paths? Right? And of course the
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: answer is always yes. If companies that have major Internet
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: security and you know our company here iHeart, we get
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: at least once a week emails in the company. Don't
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: do this, don't do that. There's an entire division in
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: here on Internet security. What do they call it? INFOSEC
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: information security? You know, don't do this, don't click on links,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: don't use your work computer to do personal stuff. And
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: then god forbid, don't go to a porn site or
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: any of the other places that go in a what's
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: the thing not cookies, the other thing that they attach
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: onto your computer because they're part of a system, and
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: if you get into one person's computer, it gets into
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: the entire company network of systems and all the computers
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: across the entire company. So I mean private companies are
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: spending a fortune and being incredibly diligent, and they can
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: be hit. Imagine you know, some water department and some
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: small community of three thousand and Wisconsin, a Nebraska or
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: something like that. You know, the cavalier attitude that some
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: of these people have. As we move toward the entire
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: world being AI, in some respects it will be positive
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: because the AI is likely to be built in with
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: far greater security and less potential for human error because
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: you're going to have AI hopefully not making mistakes that
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: human beings are making in not changing passwords or allowing
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: your account to be breached. And my guess is once
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: that they broke into the technology behind this piece of
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: Alan Bradley and Alan Bradley equipment. Alan Bradley is a
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: brand name Rockwell uses Rockwall bought Alan Bradley, then all
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: they need is probably the password from somebody who works
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: at one of these little systems, or once you get
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: into the access of the patwords passwords, you can do
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: almost anything. If they can camp with these systems and
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: say don't do this, don't do this particular treatment. Could
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: they on the clean water system, not the wastewater system
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: where you send out but the send in tell it
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: to stop putting in this purification. And could you end
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: up contaminating water supply by having water not properly treated
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: without anybody ever knowing it because a bad message was
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: sent in the computer not to do something. Clearly, Yes,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: we've worried, for example, about attacks on the electric grid.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: We have an entire industry and there are a lot
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: of stocks that have been very good buys in this area,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: of companies that are trying to provide services to stay
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: ahead of the hackers. But there is a constant battle
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: between the hackers and the people fighting the hackers to
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: get ahead. I'll compare it to a problem that you
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: see in sports and in horse racing. A major plague
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: in regular sports and for that matter, at horse racing
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: is people who cheat with drugs. In baseball, the steroid situation,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: which perhaps me explain the cal Raley nominate. What do
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: you think of? Do you know what the kel Raleigh situation?
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: Cal Raley was superstar catching for the Seattle Mariners. How
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: many home runs did he hit last year? Five hundred?
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: Was it unbelieved? Fifty five? I mean, I think he
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: won the MVP. Didn't he or did Judge beat him?
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: It was very close, but they both had incredible seasons
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: and cal Raley was He's a freak of nature. He's
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: just said, of the other thing. What's he hitting this year?
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: Like one sixty? I think? And he's still in single
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: digits with home runs? I believe correct? Yeah, nine, Well
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: that's a single digit. I think he hit went over
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: the I think he went over the weekend. The point
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: is he's had a massive falling off, and whenever you
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: see that kind of a drop off, my just assumption
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: is he was on steroids and he's now off the steroid,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: and they found out what steroid he's on. But maybe
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: he's just having a slump, but this would be an
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: extreme slum. There's drug testing in American sports, and there's
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: drug testing and horse racing all the time. The problem
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: is you have to test for a specific drug and
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: the cheaters are all always using something for which you're
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: not testing, or they create synthetically in a lab, or
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: they do compounding, put two drugs together with an illegal
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: to create a secondary effect that occurs to enhance performance.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: Once you find out about that, you can test for that,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: you can test for that, you can test for the
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: next thing, and so on. But the cheaters try to
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: stay one step ahead of the people who aren't there
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: policing the cheaters on a much more serious level. That's
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: the battle that's going on with regard to cyber crimes
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: and cyber attacks. You're listening to the Mark Belling podcast.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: This is the Mark Belling podcast. I'm doing this podcast
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: a few hours before the Major League Baseball trading deadline,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: and I'm just viewing it with trepidation. Every team that's
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: in contention wants their team to go forward try to
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: get a big time player from another team, and I'm
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: one of the few people that is very worry of this.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: The Brewers have the best farm system in baseball, which
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: people would argue would be a rationale to give up
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: two or three great young players. I wanted to get
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: a player that might try to help you win a
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: World Series this year. The cases in which you get
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: a difference maker in the middle of the season and
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: win a World Series are very rare. The Brewers are
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: where they are because they have done an incredible job
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: of finding talent and developing talent. The reason a team
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: like Milwaukee with a low payroll is able to survive
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: is they can get players for the first six or
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: seven or eight years of their career when they are very,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: very good, because they find them in the first place
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: and then develop them. I would be very hesitating to
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: trade away a prime prospect. Hey SEUs made is untouchable.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: He's depending on whose service he used, the number one
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: or number two prospect in all of baseball. By the way,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: on Saturday nighty one five for five at two homers,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: including a Grand Slam in seven RBIs. He's in Biloxi.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: Andrew Fisher, the third basemin of Biloxi, has thirty four
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: home runs. It's August thirty has thirty four home runs.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: I don't want to trade guys like that, and I
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: especially don't want to trade them for a two month rental,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: particularly given the fact that I'm not convinced that the
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: Brewers are deep enough to win a World Series yet.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: This year anyway, I think the pitching is very fragile,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: and you may need three frontline pitchers in order to
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: make it to the end of October rather than the one.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: So I don't want them to mortgage the future. And
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: some of these franchises that are in a constant boom
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: and bus situation one good year and then disappear for
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: a few years, they make this mistake of giving away
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: the farm in the middle of the season. The one
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: team that's able to do it is the Dodgers because
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: they're able to replace their prospects by signing an unlimited
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: number of free agents in the middle of the year
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: for tens of millions of dollars, so they can give
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: up on prospects to get somebody now and then buy
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: a bunch of new replacements. Secondly, the Dodgers, like the Brewers,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: also do a great job of developing and finding their
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: own talent, so they have a stockpile of it. If
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: the Brewers can improve the team and get a significant
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: player without giving up an elite prospect, or they get
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: a player who's got two to three years of contractual control,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: I do it, Otherwise I wouldn't do it. Jason's a
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: fan of the Cubs. They just gave up a couple
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: of guys to get a guy who I think is
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  Speaker 2: washed up. This guy Gaussman from Gassman right from Toronto.
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  Speaker 2: He's the ira is in the upper fours. I mean
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  Speaker 2: he what yeah, I mean, I just I look upon
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  Speaker 2: him as the equivalent of the Brewers number five pitchers
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  Speaker 2: sprote in which if the Brewers had traded for him,
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  Speaker 2: he wouldn't be much of an addition to what you
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  Speaker 2: have now. The guy Scooball who went over to the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 2: They get him for two months. They gave up three
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  Speaker 2: prospects for him. Throw in a position to be able
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  Speaker 2: to make moves like that. If the Brewers can get
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  Speaker 2: a quality pitcher, or I think their other need is
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  Speaker 2: a right handed designated hitter, they can't keep playing Christian
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  Speaker 2: Yelich every day. Maybe he gets hot like he often does,
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  Speaker 2: but this is just a killer. If they can get
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  Speaker 2: two players like that without giving up one as their
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  Speaker 2: top ten, top you know, ten to twenty prospect in
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  Speaker 2: terms of the rating, I'd be fine with that. Otherwise
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  Speaker 2: I approach this with some level of trepidation. Anyway, That's
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