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ROOT REACTION ft. Lee Elci 04-10-25 Hour 2 · Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone Audio Hours

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  Speaker 1: Warning The Root, The Root, the Roots on fire.
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  Speaker 1: percent American made the Warrior, Wayne Alan Root Them Back Man.
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  Speaker 4: So many different networks to announce Ray Alan Root is everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Man, although he's not here tonight. My name is Lee
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  Speaker 1: Elsie filling.
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  Speaker 3: In for him.
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  Speaker 1: Root Reaction.
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  Speaker 1: Bottom of the hour.
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  Speaker 4: We'll be joined by Judge John Nizarro, great guy as
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  Speaker 4: a regular guest on my morning show here in Connecticut,
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  Speaker 4: any legal questions you want me to ask him. I'll
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  Speaker 4: be about Trump or about anything going on in the
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  Speaker 4: United States. Email me Leelcradio at gmail dot com. That's
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  Speaker 4: dire wolves.
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  Speaker 1: I want one.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, I gotta get me one dire wolf. Can you
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  Speaker 4: believe what we got going on? It's like literally Jurassic Park.
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  Speaker 4: Have you guys followed that? Nobody cares about that? By me,
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  Speaker 4: I think it's cool.
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  Speaker 1: All right. I want to talk about Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: And I know, you know, everyone's focused on, you know,
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  Speaker 4: what's happening here in the last couple of days. But
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  Speaker 4: I want to talk about Saturday and the Saturday rallies. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: tens of and I'm exasperated by it. And I'll tell
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  Speaker 4: you why as we get into this. But tens of
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  Speaker 4: thousands in DC circled the Washington Monument nearly twenty blocks
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  Speaker 4: Fifth Avenue packed folks who are out there waving their flag,
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  Speaker 4: some upside down signaling distress, chanting, some very strange things
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  Speaker 4: like stop the steal and things of that nature. I'm
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  Speaker 4: not really even sure what that means. But they were
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  Speaker 4: rallying against tariffs, against Elon Musks and his Department of
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  Speaker 4: Government efficiency. They don't like it, and they're basically calling
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  Speaker 4: Trump a fascist dark money following Elon Musk.
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  Speaker 2: They have.
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  Speaker 4: Literally no idea what they're talking about. So let me
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  Speaker 4: remind them. America has been on a slow bleed for
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  Speaker 4: decades since the sixties. I mean, if you go back,
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  Speaker 4: think lbj' is great society. We've seen the government bloat,
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  Speaker 4: explode guys, programs like welfare, replacing personal responsibility with handouts.
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  Speaker 4: Nonsensical bureaucratic schemes have been hatched ever since the Great Society. Now,
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  Speaker 4: whether the Great Society was born with genuine care for
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  Speaker 4: the American people, or if it was born for another reason,
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  Speaker 4: which is what I think, it was born for control.
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  Speaker 4: This is where we are and the federal government. Remember this,
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  Speaker 4: The federal government doesn't make money, right, It's not a
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  Speaker 4: business per se. It takes your money, big difference, and
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  Speaker 4: for too long we have let that go unchecked, draining
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  Speaker 4: our wallets to fund themselves. They're bureaucratic buddies. I just
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  Speaker 4: talked about this the other day on my radio show.
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  Speaker 4: I just wrote a big fat check to Uncle Sam.
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  Speaker 4: You drain me every week. Every week, you drain money
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  Speaker 4: out of my account, and then yet I had to
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  Speaker 4: write another fat check to Uncle Sam at the end
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  Speaker 4: of the year.
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  Speaker 1: When does it stop?
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  Speaker 4: So they're going to be growing pains with what's going on,
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  Speaker 4: There's no question about that, you bet. But when you
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  Speaker 4: start slashing waste, so far one hundred and eighty, I
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  Speaker 4: think billions saved. According to Elon, Musk said that today,
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  Speaker 4: I believe critics are screaming that the jobs that are
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  Speaker 4: being cut are vital jobs that are I guess stopping
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  Speaker 4: research or they've been whining about their colleagues losing jobs.
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  Speaker 4: But the tough question to ask, and one I think
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  Speaker 4: is a legitimate question to ask, how much and how
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  Speaker 4: many of those research jobs are essential? And how much
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  Speaker 4: is it just padding budgets. We've got to prioritize what
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  Speaker 4: actually moves the needle in America. So they're worried about
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  Speaker 4: social security, they're worried about healthcare, they're worried about education.
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  Speaker 1: But here's the disconnect.
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  Speaker 4: They're defending a system that has been fleecing us.
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  Speaker 1: With mediocre results for decades. Man, how many times do
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  Speaker 1: we have to keep going round and round in this.
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  Speaker 1: The Department of Education doesn't work.
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  Speaker 4: If there's waste, fraud, fat in these different organizations, cut it.
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  Speaker 1: And if that means someone.
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  Speaker 4: Loses their jobs, I'm sorry, but you were not an
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  Speaker 4: essential employee public education that We've been throwing money at
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  Speaker 4: that for what since nineteen eighty and the scores continue
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  Speaker 4: to go in the wrong direction. Hasn't fixed the schools,
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  Speaker 4: it's clogged it up. And the folks that were again
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  Speaker 4: going out with the rallies on Saturday protesting, by the way,
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  Speaker 4: they were all getting paid. A lot of them were
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  Speaker 4: getting paid. Maybe not in the smaller towns, but in
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  Speaker 4: the bigger cities they were making a check.
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  Speaker 1: For sure.
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  Speaker 4: These folks are clinging to a status quo that has.
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  Speaker 1: Been failing us.
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  Speaker 4: And while accusing Trump of closing up to these oligarchs,
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  Speaker 4: again that.
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  Speaker 1: Is the stupidest thing.
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  Speaker 4: So you've got two of the richest man arguably in
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  Speaker 4: the world, and then you've got another billionaire.
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  Speaker 1: What they're trying to squeeze more money out of you.
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  Speaker 4: Trump's trying to build a legacy here, man. Trump is
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  Speaker 4: trying to build his legacy. He wants to go down
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  Speaker 4: in history that he stood for something. He's not trying
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  Speaker 4: to pad the pockets for himself and his kids. I
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  Speaker 4: don't believe that for a second. So the rallies, bankrolled
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  Speaker 4: by folks like Soros, the left wants to forget about that,
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  Speaker 4: But the protesters are shouting that tariffs will tank the economy,
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  Speaker 4: raise prices, hurt the little guy. But hold on, for
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  Speaker 4: decades and decades and decades, we've let countries like China
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  Speaker 4: our economic rival, not our friend, eat our lunch, steal
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  Speaker 4: our intellectual property. Where were our leftist friends rally Were
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  Speaker 4: they rallying about that?
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  Speaker 1: Why is that okay?
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  Speaker 4: Why is that something that they conveniently forget about? I mean,
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  Speaker 4: China's the most favored nation since two thousand. They flooded
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  Speaker 4: our markets with cheap goods, They've again hollowed out the
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  Speaker 4: American industry. They've basically again stole into lack actual property
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  Speaker 4: and their tax on imports. Basically they've cost us jobs, industry,
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  Speaker 4: and a lot of other things. Again, they've they produced
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  Speaker 4: crappy products, and for some reason, our friends on the left,
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  Speaker 4: they don't want to fight that fight. They want to
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  Speaker 4: fight Trump instead. So, as I said in the opening,
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  Speaker 4: maybe if you missed it. I believe all of this
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  Speaker 4: circles back to the people that are making the most noise, right,
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  Speaker 4: the people that are making the most noise of doge
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  Speaker 4: or about the waste, fraud and abuse and the cuts
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  Speaker 4: are the ones that we should have our quote unquote
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  Speaker 4: eyes on, the keenest eyes on Chuck Schumer's Christopher.
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  Speaker 1: Murphy here in the state of Connecticut.
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  Speaker 4: Pelosi Shift, these folks, Bloomenthal or a certain extent, these
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  Speaker 4: folks are the ones that have been manipulating this system.
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  Speaker 4: In particular, the folks the old guard who have been
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  Speaker 4: in Washington for a long long time have been reaping
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  Speaker 4: the benefits.
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  Speaker 1: Of all of this circular flush.
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  Speaker 4: Money that comes out of your pocket goes into these
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  Speaker 4: places like USAID, and then gets circulated around and eventually
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  Speaker 4: comes back to roost in the pockets of unscrupulous politicians.
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  Speaker 4: I firmly believe that one hundred thousand percent, and that's
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  Speaker 4: why they're screaming and yelling. Nobody can make a legitimate
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  Speaker 4: argument as to why you would not want to stop wasteful.
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  Speaker 1: Spending except the fact that getting a piece of it.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. That's the only thing that makes sense.
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  Speaker 4: So these protests organized by groups like Indivisible and move On.
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  Speaker 1: Indivisible, by the way, is some.
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  Speaker 4: Of the same outfit they did, the same outfits that
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  Speaker 4: pushed abortion and gun control rallies last time Trump was
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  Speaker 4: in office.
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  Speaker 1: But they're also heavily tied to the Communist Party. Go
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  Speaker 1: look it up.
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  Speaker 4: And in all of this, like in all of this
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  Speaker 4: back and forth, who's been hit the hardest.
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  Speaker 1: It's been the middle class.
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  Speaker 4: Then crushed by decades of bad trade deals, open borders,
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  Speaker 4: run away spending. And yet you know, you go and
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  Speaker 4: look at some of these rallies and it's funny.
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  Speaker 1: Most of the people at these rallies, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I've been I've watched a lot of video on this.
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  Speaker 4: Most of the people at these rallies were white, suburban
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  Speaker 4: folks forty years old plus. Where were the the folks
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  Speaker 4: of color. Where were the young kids? Why weren't they
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  Speaker 4: invited to these rallies on Saturday? Where were they?
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  Speaker 2: See?
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  Speaker 4: The thing is Trump is moving at warp speed and
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  Speaker 4: it's rattling cages.
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  Speaker 1: It's scaring the hell out of these folks.
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  Speaker 4: And the truth is, downsizing government isn't about taking away
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  Speaker 4: your rights. It's actually about liberating you. It's about giving
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  Speaker 4: you back control over your money, over your future, over
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  Speaker 4: your country.
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  Speaker 1: That's what this is about.
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  Speaker 4: Taking away the waste, fraud, bloat, abuse, all of it.
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  Speaker 4: Gives power back to the people.
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  Speaker 1: Period. Stop shaking me upside down to grab every penny.
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  Speaker 4: If Elon Musk can find a trillion dollars to save
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  Speaker 4: in the budget, oh my goodness, this is what his
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  Speaker 4: goal is. The difference would be herculean and a leaner
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  Speaker 4: government will unleash American ingenuity. It will crush everything that
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  Speaker 4: stands in its way. You'll have more factory, stronger borders,
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  Speaker 4: lower deficits. America has been coasting on these ugly fumes
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  Speaker 4: for too long. We've we've gotta, We've got to take
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  Speaker 4: this country back. And the protest out there, they might
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  Speaker 4: some of them might mean well, but they're fighting a
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  Speaker 4: broken So how can you fight a system that's broken,
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  Speaker 4: that doesn't work. Don't you want a stronger economy, a
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  Speaker 4: balanced budget, country that works for the taxpayer, not for.
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  Speaker 1: The the bureaucracy.
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  Speaker 4: I do, and I think that's what's uh, that's what
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  Speaker 4: our good friend, Judge John Tzarro, Judge, good morning, good morning,
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  Speaker 1: So you want to start with Trey Diagua.
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  Speaker 4: What's going on with that and the back and forth
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  Speaker 7: You know, absolutely US Supreme Court basically slapped down the
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  Speaker 8: Washington, DC. And this is just lending to a utter
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  Speaker 8: lack of confidence in the judicial brands. We get calls
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  Speaker 8: all the time, as you know on your regular show.
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  Speaker 8: How can the judge do that? Isn't the judge overstepping bounds?
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  Speaker 8: And that's exactly what the Supreme Court ruled. Curiously, both
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  Speaker 8: sides thought it a victory, but the reality is President
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  Speaker 8: Trump's executive power was definitely solidified in that decision.
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  Speaker 4: So end result of all this, I know, I do
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  Speaker 4: know though that they consider it a win.
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  Speaker 1: Judge, But don't they have to.
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  Speaker 4: Bring every single one of these folks now in front
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  Speaker 4: of a judge.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't that clog up the system? To a certain extent?
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  Speaker 1: It does?
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  Speaker 8: And I know a little bit about this because what
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  Speaker 8: the court ruled was that they have the right of
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  Speaker 8: habeas corpus for two years in two thousand and nine
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  Speaker 8: and ten, I was the State of Connecticut's chief habeas
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  Speaker 8: So there has to be a hearing. They need to
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  Speaker 8: challenge the conditions of their confinement. But I don't think
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  Speaker 8: it's going to take a whole lot for the government
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  Speaker 8: to establish that these individuals are part of a gang
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  Speaker 8: and as such, they've been the war has been declared
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  Speaker 8: on them, and the reality is, this is what the
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  Speaker 8: public voted for. President Trump is doing exactly what he
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  Speaker 8: said he would do, and so immigration. I frankly was
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  Speaker 8: on the phone with a senior level attorney just yesterday,
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  Speaker 8: and there's a lot of pressure being brought to bear
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  Speaker 8: from the top down, and there are trials and cases,
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  Speaker 8: and they're now using civil forfeiture penalties against individuals who
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  Speaker 8: have overstayed. So they're giving the lawyers the resources, they're
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  Speaker 8: equipping the courts with judges, and they're just going full blast. Interestingly,
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  Speaker 8: last week I talked to a private attorney who's busy
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  Speaker 8: down in Washington and her firm is very.
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  Speaker 7: Busy with deportation cases.
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  Speaker 8: So it's going to be a logjam, but they're going
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  Speaker 8: to get through it, and these folks are going south.
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  Speaker 7: That's the bottom line.
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  Speaker 4: So what do you give me an average amount of
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  Speaker 4: time you think it would take one of these gang bangers,
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  Speaker 4: if you will, to appear. You know, you've got to
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  Speaker 4: catch them, then you've got to process them, and then
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  Speaker 4: he's got his day in court. From the time all
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  Speaker 4: that happens to the time they're on a plane heading
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  Speaker 4: back to El Salvador or Nicaragua or wherever they're from. Judge,
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  Speaker 4: give me an idea how how long that is? Because
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  Speaker 4: we know how backed up the normal process is for immigration,
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  Speaker 4: can we assume that this is going to be the
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  Speaker 4: same thing.
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  Speaker 7: I think it's going to be shorter.
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  Speaker 8: I think we can assume it's going to be shorter
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  Speaker 8: because of the determination of Tom Holman, Director of Homeland Security,
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  Speaker 8: and he's on this, like White on Rice. DOJ is
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  Speaker 8: voting the resources, and this has been put on the
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  Speaker 8: front board burner. This is being fast tracked. And you know,
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  Speaker 8: the American Civil Liberties Union lawyers are all over this.
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  Speaker 8: They're saying, you know, they're stamping on the rights of
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  Speaker 8: the accused. There are rights, but here's the problem. They've
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  Speaker 8: been labeled enemy combatants. They don't have the rights supported
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  Speaker 8: US citizens under the United States Constitution. As such, they're
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  Speaker 8: going to be fast tracked out of here, and I
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  Speaker 8: personally don't have a problem with it. People will find criticism,
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  Speaker 8: perhaps in my view, but I'll tell you this is
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  Speaker 8: what the United States needs. These are dangerous individuals. These
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  Speaker 8: are not babes and arms, and I don't think anyone's
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  Speaker 8: going to shed a tear. So they'll get their court
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  Speaker 8: appointed a council, but they'll be on trial and they'll
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: be swift decisions, and you can arrest assured.
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  Speaker 7: If the judges aren't issuing the decisions quickly, they're going
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  Speaker 7: to hear about it from up above.
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  Speaker 8: Just the other day, one of the government lawyers was
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  Speaker 8: disciplined because the lawyer admitted that they had made a
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  Speaker 8: mistake and apparently Attorney General Bondie suspended the attorney. And
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  Speaker 8: that's always a dangerous thing. The attorney made a statement
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  Speaker 8: in front of an administrative law judge, and so the
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  Speaker 8: attorneys are very nervous about what they can say or
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  Speaker 8: not say, and any consequences to them personally.
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  Speaker 4: We're talking to Judge John Azarro, So we have talked
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  Speaker 4: before about rogue judges and some of these federal judges
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  Speaker 4: issuing rulings to block Trump the administration the policies even
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: as far as tariff rollbacks. And how do you view
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  Speaker 4: the role of judicial independence when critics label these judges
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  Speaker 4: and as rogue, Well, how do you see that?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's problematic because the law that was invoked,
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  Speaker 8: the seventeen ninety four law specifically said in the statute
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  Speaker 8: that there would be no judicial review. Well, that, in
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  Speaker 8: my view, deprives the court of jurisdiction or competency to
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  Speaker 8: even hear the matter. And jurists are quarreling with this,
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  Speaker 8: and then you find out the jurists may have a
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  Speaker 8: wife who's involved with the Democratic Party and this kind
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  Speaker 8: of thing ought that have been disclosed. You can't necessarily
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  Speaker 8: impute the political activity of the spouse to the justice.
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  Speaker 8: Gosh knows, we've seen that with Justice Thomas, whose wife
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  Speaker 8: is very involved in the Democratic Party and he's not
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  Speaker 8: recused himself for many issues.
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  Speaker 7: So it's a factor.
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  Speaker 8: But the reality is there's a lot of loss of respect.
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  Speaker 8: Let's be candid. I said this before. It's not a science.
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  Speaker 8: And the truth is, and I'm here to say it,
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  Speaker 8: is that you can find precedent to back you up
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  Speaker 8: on either position, and it's not like.
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  Speaker 7: Two and two equals four.
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  Speaker 8: You can reach back find a case that supports your position.
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  Speaker 8: And that's what's problematic. And there's no respect now for
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  Speaker 8: congress people on both sides, and I'm afraid that respect
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  Speaker 8: and the judiciary has tanked.
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  Speaker 4: Again, Judge, We've talked about this before. I just want
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  Speaker 4: to kind of get this out there for a whole
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  Speaker 4: new audience to hear what you have to say about this,
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  Speaker 4: because you know, reflecting on your time on the bench
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  Speaker 4: in Connecticut, how do you balance your personal beliefs with
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  Speaker 4: the way that you uphold the law and interpret the law,
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  Speaker 4: especially in cases that are politically divisive?
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  Speaker 7: You know, a good question, such a tough question.
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  Speaker 8: Like my father, who was not a lawyer but a soldier,
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  Speaker 8: a veteran of World War Two and the Korean War,
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  Speaker 8: said to me that very point, John, You can't separate
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  Speaker 8: your personal beliefs, but.
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  Speaker 7: You really try hard.
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  Speaker 8: Once you put on the road, you're there to execute
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  Speaker 8: the functions of the job. You go where the precedent
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  Speaker 8: leads you. But therein is the problem. You may choose
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  Speaker 8: different cases to be authoritative, and sometimes cases are reversed,
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  Speaker 8: so there is going to be some influence in terms
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  Speaker 8: of your political leanings. Anyone who denies that is not
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  Speaker 8: telling you the truth. So it's a factor, but you
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  Speaker 8: try to keep it in check. And you know, sometimes
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  Speaker 8: I had to make decisions which were very difficult.
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  Speaker 7: I knew I would get heat.
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  Speaker 8: From my former trial lawyer friends, and for those that
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  Speaker 8: know I'm a retired judge and I'm active representing people
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  Speaker 8: in the trial bar against institutions against government.
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  Speaker 1: So as a.
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  Speaker 8: Judge, you try to put your personal beliefs on the shelf.
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  Speaker 8: Call it like you see it, use a baseball metaphor,
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  Speaker 8: and it's difficult.
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  Speaker 1: So since around this, let me just follow up, finish
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  Speaker 4: Some commentators argue that lifetime judicial appointments enable unelected judges
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  Speaker 8: Well, one can make the argument, and in all respect
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  Speaker 7: But let's look at the facts. We saw Justice.
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  Speaker 8: Ruth Bader Ginsburg very aged, and a lot of people
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  Speaker 8: criticized her for not stepping down because then the president
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  Speaker 8: Douglas who came in in a wheelchair. Some folks could
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  Speaker 8: barely function.
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  Speaker 7: That's not good.
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  Speaker 8: Lifetime appointments don't work out well when people are obviously infirm,
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  Speaker 8: and as we saw from Joe Biden. Unfortunately, the right
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  Speaker 8: people don't step up and say it's time. It's time
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  Speaker 8: to go. These justices cling on too long. It's the
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  Speaker 8: same with congressmen, it's the same with senators, and unfortunately,
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  Speaker 8: as we saw with Joe Biden. So I think it
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  Speaker 8: needs to be revisited, and it's a congressional issue. In
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  Speaker 8: state court in Connecticut, we don't elect judges, but they're
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  Speaker 8: appointed to an eight year term and they have to
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  Speaker 8: go before the legislature.
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  Speaker 7: Every eight years and they're reviewed. They have to keep up.
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  Speaker 8: Their scores on decorum and humility and certainly competency and
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  Speaker 7: Lifetime appointments are problematic.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Judge John Azarro is with us, and again he is
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  Speaker 4: What is the effect of this bill coming out of
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the hard part.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 8: they don't have it. But I think it sends a
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  Speaker 8: It's a dirty part of the business. But this bill
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  Speaker 8: Ruling upon what's going on out of Texas. And that
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  Speaker 4: So we have an attorney listening right now as a
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  Speaker 1: Judge?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I think the orders clear.
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  Speaker 8: This happened about forty minutes ago, and I looked at
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  Speaker 7: You know. If there's a mistake, you got to correct it.
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  Speaker 8: If somebody's sent out of the country improperly, you got
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  Speaker 7: The person back. I think it was Maryland if I'm.
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  Speaker 8: Not mistaken, and you just got to get it done.
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  Speaker 4: That was from Dana in Connecticut. There's also a question
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  Speaker 4: during your career, can you share an instance where you
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  Speaker 4: faced public or political pressure and then how you handled that?
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  Speaker 8: Oh boy, well, yeah, I regret that I'm going to
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  Speaker 8: bring this up. There was a case involving a man
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  Speaker 8: was Richard Lapointe versus Commissioner of Corrections. He had been
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  Speaker 7: I denied his petition for habeas corpus.
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  Speaker 8: He had spent twenty eight years in prison, and he
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  Speaker 8: was convicted.
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  Speaker 7: Of all these horrible charges.
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  Speaker 8: And the Supreme Court, in a two hundred and sixty
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  Speaker 8: I did, and I had to live with that decision.
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  Speaker 8: But he was eventually freed, and he actually received a
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  Speaker 8: I took heat from a number of people, but frankly,
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  Speaker 4: I got a run all right, buddy, Thank you. I'm
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