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Derrière, Dershowitz Ditches Dems, Disputed Democracy · Rich Valdés: This is America!

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  Speaker 1: This is America with Rich Valdez, powered by politiweek.com.
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  Speaker 2: And Rich Valdez is with us, former Christie administration official.
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  Speaker 3: You work for Chris Christie, you've been in politics, a
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  Speaker 3: lot of public service stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Rich Valdez, columnist now with the Washington Times.
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  Speaker 1: This is America.
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  Speaker 4: Rich TV, you're on the air with the nation.
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  Speaker 1: This is America with your host, Rich Valdez.
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  Speaker 4: What's up, America? I am Rich Valdez, Valdez with an S,
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  Speaker 4: at Rich Valdez on all of the social media. Welcome
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  Speaker 4: to the Monday night edition of the program. Blessed and
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  Speaker 4: honored to be here with you, my wonderful audience. I
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  Speaker 4: am at Rich Valdez on all the social media. Check
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  Speaker 4: out the website, richvaldez.com. Give me a call, 877-VALDEZ1 is
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  Speaker 4: our phone number if you want to join us. And
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  Speaker 4: so much to talk about. I'm only going to get
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  Speaker 4: to a couple of things because really there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: I want to unpack and We're going to have to
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  Speaker 4: pick up on some of that stuff tomorrow as this
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  Speaker 4: stuff develops. Lots going on. But first thing I want
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  Speaker 4: to talk about is he lights big butts and he
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  Speaker 4: cannot lie. I'm not talking about Sir Mix-a-Lot. I'm talking
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  Speaker 4: about El Trumpito, then all this magnus, the 45th and
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  Speaker 4: 47th president of these United States. Now, you may have
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  Speaker 4: heard last week when President Trump was at a rally
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  Speaker 4: in Ohio and he was talking about the Senate candidate Houston, right?
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  Speaker 4: John Houston. And he made some comments, and he brought
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  Speaker 4: those up again at a rally this week. But this week,
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  Speaker 4: he's got a whole new muse that he's commenting on
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  Speaker 4: the rear end. And that would be, well, I'll let
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  Speaker 4: him tell you. He's going to start off right now.
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  Speaker 4: Go for it.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and I've never done that with a man before.
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  Speaker 5: It's true.
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  Speaker 3: Off the record, women, yes, men, no, okay? By the way,
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  Speaker 3: I looked at one hell of a beautiful ass before,
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  Speaker 3: Nicki Minaj.
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  Speaker 4: That's hard to miss. That's stand up. That's hard to miss.
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  Speaker 4: El Trumpito going in on Nicki Minaj's booty, saying that
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  Speaker 4: she's a baddie with a fatty. President Trump getting lots
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  Speaker 4: of applause, lots of people smiling, Nicki Minaj blushing in
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  Speaker 4: the crowd and lots of rumors. Is she going to
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  Speaker 4: become the next press secretary? What role will she play
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  Speaker 4: in the rest of the Trump administration? She's looking real
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  Speaker 4: official and she handles herself really well in public. Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: she is a professional showman and performer, you know, a
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  Speaker 4: multi-platinum artist And she got a big badonkadonk. So we're
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  Speaker 4: going to find out what happens with Trump and Nicki Minaj.
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  Speaker 4: But I thought that was so funny. And Trump continued
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  Speaker 4: talking about the story of him describing John Husted's ass
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  Speaker 4: as well as Nicki Minaj's.
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  Speaker 3: But we love Nicki. She's been with us for a
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  Speaker 3: long time. But anyway, so wait. So this is to
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  Speaker 3: show you how fake the news is. So I revealed
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  Speaker 3: the story to 30,000 people. And it's in Ohio. And
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  Speaker 3: I said, you know, he was a football player. And
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  Speaker 3: a few people said, yeah, he was an All-American. A
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  Speaker 3: few people knew. The football, big football fans. But while
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  Speaker 3: he's speaking, you know, ladies and gentlemen, thank you. My
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  Speaker 3: name is John Houston. And I'm examining his body. And
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  Speaker 3: I said, his ass was like a big piece of muscle.
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  Speaker 3: His feet were massive. His hands, his fingers look like sausages.
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  Speaker 4: My hands aren't bad.
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  Speaker 3: But his fingers looked like sausages. And then I looked
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  Speaker 3: at his neck and I saw the neck and I
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  Speaker 3: saw the strength. And then I patted him on the
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  Speaker 3: shoulder and I hurt my hand because it was like
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  Speaker 3: hitting a piece of steel. I said, this guy is
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  Speaker 3: much different. And I explained that. I said, what I said,
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  Speaker 3: I looked at his ass and the press went crazy
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  Speaker 3: the next day. They said, what's with Trump? All he
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  Speaker 3: wants to do is talk about A man's ass. There's
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  Speaker 3: something different about. They didn't explain the whole football deal.
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  Speaker 4: I looked at his ass. That is El Trumpito doing
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  Speaker 4: what he does, man, making it, making it funny. And
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  Speaker 4: that was definitely funny, in my opinion. Nicki Minaj also
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  Speaker 4: making comments at that rally a little bit right before
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  Speaker 4: those comments that you heard. Listen to this.
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  Speaker 3: I am so honored to be working with this president.
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  Speaker 6: Since he's come back, he's changed the energy of our
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  Speaker 6: country and he's given us a future to look forward to,
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  Speaker 6: a brighter future for us and our children. We don't
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  Speaker 6: want our children to be bombarded with sex changes, right?
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  Speaker 6: We don't want that for our children. We want people
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  Speaker 6: to leave the children alone, leave them out of it, right? So,
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  Speaker 6: President Trump, it is an honor to stand with you
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  Speaker 6: every single time, and I will continue to support.
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  Speaker 4: You forever and ever.
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  Speaker 6: If you run again, I will support you again.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure he loved that. I would, too, if there
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  Speaker 4: was a loop.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, I looked at one hell of a
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  Speaker 3: beautiful ass before, Nicki Minaj.
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  Speaker 4: I am so... We got to keep playing that on loop.
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  Speaker 4: I thought that was so funny. Now I know somebody's
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  Speaker 4: going to say, but Rich, I thought you were so
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  Speaker 4: conservative and a high holy roller Christian. You know, maybe
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  Speaker 4: I am on Sundays and then I try to be
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  Speaker 4: the rest of the days. But that really made me laugh.
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  Speaker 4: I thought that was so funny. She took it in stride.
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  Speaker 4: So did he. It was a really funny moment. and
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  Speaker 4: I think normalized Trump. And again, this is Trump doing
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  Speaker 4: what Trump does, right? He's taking a page out of
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  Speaker 4: Sir Mix-a-Lot's playbook here days before the election, right? We
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  Speaker 4: are literally days before the election. So we continue. Now,
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  Speaker 4: there's also some breaking news that came out of Brazil,
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  Speaker 4: or as we say in Portuguese, Brazil. Now, I am
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  Speaker 4: an American of Puerto Rican descent, but my godmother is
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  Speaker 4: a Brazilian, and she lived next door to us for
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  Speaker 4: a little bit when I was a kid. and would
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  Speaker 4: come over a lot, and she was always with us,
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  Speaker 4: and she taught my siblings and I a lot of
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  Speaker 4: Portuguese as a kid. So I'm going to play a
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  Speaker 4: clip of Flávio Bolsonaro in Portuguese, and I will translate
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  Speaker 4: it for you in English. Listen to this. I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to state right now that it is impossible, impossible to
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  Speaker 4: recognize the results of this election. the way that these
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  Speaker 4: things have transpired. We are looking for an annulment of
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  Speaker 4: these results.
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  Speaker 2: I am not going to change a, I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to accept a mid-game rule change.
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  Speaker 4: Again, by Lula's same friends that released him from prison
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  Speaker 4: the first time, his allies on the Supreme Court. So,
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  Speaker 4: big shocker there, because I think a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: were expecting Flavio Bolsonaro, who is the son of Jair Bolsonaro,
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  Speaker 4: the former president, who is now in jail. And this
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  Speaker 4: current president, Lula, was president a long time ago. I
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  Speaker 4: think he's now in his eighth term or something like that.
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  Speaker 4: And then he went to jail. And when the father, Bolsonaro,
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  Speaker 4: was in office, the only person popular enough they could
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  Speaker 4: find to beat him was this guy, Lula. And they
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  Speaker 4: busted him out of jail. Now, they use procedural maneuvers
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  Speaker 4: and whatnot and lawfare to get him out of jail. But, wow,
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  Speaker 4: what a story that we're watching unfold in Brazil today.
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  Speaker 4: So I've met Flavio Bolsonaro and his brother Eduardo and
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  Speaker 4: their dad at various CPAC events over the years. Good guys.
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  Speaker 4: And I wish them nothing but the best. And I
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  Speaker 4: hope that they can get to the bottom of this
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  Speaker 4: because I can't say we didn't see things like this coming.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: It did come as a surprise. But these last minute
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  Speaker 4: rule changes are something that the left is notorious for.
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  Speaker 4: And that's just the sad truth of today's political affairs. Now,
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  Speaker 4: I also want to alert you to a documentary that's
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  Speaker 4: going to be coming out on the Newsmax channel, Newsmax Plus,
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  Speaker 4: Newsmax One, maybe even Newsmax Two. I'm not sure exactly
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  Speaker 4: where it's going to play, but I was in a
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  Speaker 4: documentary with a number of people, including my buddy Tom
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  Speaker 4: Basile from Newsmax. So keep an eye out for that.
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  Speaker 4: We're talking about the dangers of communism and how much
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  Speaker 4: closer America will be should Republicans not win this election.
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  Speaker 4: This is an important topic and one that I think
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  Speaker 4: you definitely need to talk about. Now, speaking about lawfare,
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  Speaker 4: we talked about that on the last episode of the show.
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  Speaker 4: If you didn't listen to that, make sure you catch
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  Speaker 4: the interview I did with Governor Rod Blagojevich. That was
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  Speaker 4: a fantastic conversation that we had about his time in
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  Speaker 4: prison and whatnot. And in the same vein, our guest
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  Speaker 4: that's coming up momentarily has served as a lawyer to
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  Speaker 4: Jeffrey Epstein. Now, some people think, Rich, why would you
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  Speaker 4: interview Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer? What are you, a pedophile protector?
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  Speaker 4: What are you, on the same page with those people? No,
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  Speaker 4: not at all. Matter of fact, it's Professor Alan Dershowitz.
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  Speaker 4: And the Dersh was not only an attorney to Epstein,
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  Speaker 4: he's been an attorney to Trump, he's been an attorney
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  Speaker 4: to Mike Tyson, he's been an attorney to a number
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  Speaker 4: of people, not the least of which is O.J. Simpson,
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  Speaker 4: part of the Dream Team with Robert Kardashian and F. Lee,
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  Speaker 4: I was going to say F. Lee Levin, F. Lee Bailey,
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  Speaker 4: Johnny Cochran, Bob Shapiro, and others. And this is a
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  Speaker 4: really good conversation because Dershowitz has in effect been exiled
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  Speaker 4: from the Epstein took exception to him. Jeffrey Epstein was
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  Speaker 4: not happy with his representation by Dershowitz and began criticizing
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  Speaker 4: him and doesn't like him, doesn't like Trump. I'm sure
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  Speaker 4: he wouldn't like you or me if he met us either,
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  Speaker 4: if he were still around. And I do believe he's dead.
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  Speaker 4: And if he is alive, there's no way I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to find out where he is, right? Neither are you.
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  Speaker 4: But we're going to have a conversation with Professor Alan
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  Speaker 4: Dershowitz in a he's doing a nationwide book tour talking
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  Speaker 4: about leaving the Democrat Party and how this has really
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  Speaker 4: just turned his liberal lifestyle on its head as a
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  Speaker 4: liberal Democrat who has always been a civil libertarian that
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  Speaker 4: believed in free speech, whether or not, you know, he
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  Speaker 4: supported abortion or whatever was beside the point, but he
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  Speaker 4: supported the Constitution. And it's a fascinating conversation. I've had
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  Speaker 4: him on the show before, but We touched on a
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  Speaker 4: number of topics here, and I hope you'll enjoy that interview. Plus,
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  Speaker 4: we'll get into a little bit more of what's going
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  Speaker 4: on in the rest of the news of the day afterward.
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  Speaker 4: And stay tuned, because there is plenty more to come
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  Speaker 4: with Professor Alan Dershowitz. Don't go anywhere. I'm Rich Valdez.
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  Speaker 1: This is America. This is America.
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  Speaker 4: President Donald J. Trump, Mr. President, welcome to the program, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Rich, and thank you for everything.
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  Speaker 3: I know you very well, and I listen, but I
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  Speaker 3: have a lot of people that listen, and they love
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  Speaker 3: your show, and I appreciate it very much.
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  Speaker 4: All right, America, welcome back. We continue our discussion this
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  Speaker 4: evening with a legend in the legal world, Professor Alan Dershowitz,
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  Speaker 4: not only did he serve on the dream team for
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  Speaker 4: the O.J. Simpson trial, he defended President Trump in the impeachment.
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  Speaker 4: He was a lawyer to Jeffrey Epstein. We're going to
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  Speaker 4: talk about all of that, but mainly we're going to
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  Speaker 4: talk about his new book. His new book is called
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  Speaker 4: Why I Quit the Dems. Take a look at that.
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  Speaker 4: It's on screen. You can see it right there. And
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  Speaker 4: So Should You by Professor Alan Dershowitz. Professor, welcome back, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thanks. And the back of the book, of course,
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  Speaker 2: has a strong endorsement by President Donald Trump. urging everybody
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  Speaker 2: to read the book. The problem is you can't buy
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  Speaker 2: this book in local bookstores. These independent bookstores that claim
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  Speaker 2: to be the heart and soul of the First Amendment,
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  Speaker 2: they will not sell conservative books, Republican books. You can't
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  Speaker 2: buy Alan Dershowitz's book in small bookstores around the country.
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  Speaker 2: You have to go on Amazon or Barnes & Noble
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  Speaker 2: and buy it online. So please buy it online and
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  Speaker 2: show up the small independent bookstores that are not serving
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  Speaker 2: the First Amendment. They're hurting the First Amendment.
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  Speaker 4: It's a shame that that's happening. But, you know, Professor,
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  Speaker 4: for the sake of the audience, I want to make
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  Speaker 4: sure everybody understands the depth and gravity of this. You're
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  Speaker 4: not a conservative. While that book may be for a
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  Speaker 4: conservative audience, you have, for the most part of your career,
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  Speaker 4: have always been a civil libertarian. You've been part of
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  Speaker 4: the ACLU. And it seems like that's gotten away from
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  Speaker 4: its roots.
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  Speaker 2: No question. I was on the national board of the ACLU.
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  Speaker 2: I think I was its youngest member. I was on
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  Speaker 2: the board of the Massachusetts Civil Liberties Union. I've been
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  Speaker 2: a civil libertarian since I'm 13 years old. I still am.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is the Republican Party are now the party
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  Speaker 2: of civil liberties. They're the party of free speech. It's
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  Speaker 2: the Democrats that want to suppress free speech, that want
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  Speaker 2: to substitute racial diversity for ideological diversity. So I can't
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  Speaker 2: be a Democrat if I'm to remain a civil libertarian
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  Speaker 2: and a liberal. I haven't changed my views at Reagan said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the Democrats left me, I didn't leave them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and it's funny, I find this funny because, again,
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  Speaker 4: we heard it way back when, but we're hearing it
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  Speaker 4: again now, 2026, Professor Alan Dershowitz, I'm 48 years old.
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  Speaker 4: In my lifetime, you've always been a liberal Democrat that's
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  Speaker 4: been a civil libertarian, a legal scholar out of Harvard,
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  Speaker 4: but by no means would I ever have thought that
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  Speaker 4: you'd be on my show talking about conservative issues or
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  Speaker 4: how the Republican Party was going to become the the
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  Speaker 4: safe bastion for people who don't want to be part
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  Speaker 4: of the radical Jew-hating left.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, remember, too, that true conservatives and true liberals
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  Speaker 2: have more in common with radicals. My good friend used
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  Speaker 2: to be Bill Buckley, and we used to debate, and
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  Speaker 2: we were ferocious in attacking each other's views. And then
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  Speaker 2: at the end, we'd have a drink, and we'd say,
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  Speaker 2: we're so similar. We both believe in free speech. We
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  Speaker 2: both believe in individual freedom and liberty. We both believe
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  Speaker 2: in open market economy. We may disagree on foreign policy
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  Speaker 2: and disagree on some other issues, religious issues, but we
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  Speaker 2: tend to agree, liberals and conservatives, on core fundamental issues
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  Speaker 2: of liberty.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, listen, and I think that was when, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it stood out to me and I was very happy
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  Speaker 4: to see it when I think President Trump, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 4: got railroaded during his impeachment. He got railroaded after that.
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  Speaker 4: And I knew it was true, not because I thought so,
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  Speaker 4: because there could be a bias of the bubble I
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  Speaker 4: live in. But it was my liberal friends that came
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  Speaker 4: to me and said, man, they're doing them dirty. And
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  Speaker 4: I said, they are. I thought it was just me.
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  Speaker 4: So when you saw this and you saw that this
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  Speaker 4: initial impeachment, you know, I thought it was great to
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  Speaker 4: see you there because, again, like I said, you'd always
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  Speaker 4: been an icon in the Democrat side of things. What
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  Speaker 4: was that experience like for you?
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  Speaker 2: It was terrible. Every one of my friends left me.
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  Speaker 2: Family members wouldn't talk to me. I used to be
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  Speaker 2: the most popular guy on Martha's Vineyard, get invited to
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  Speaker 2: speak at the library, at the book fairs. I'm no
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  Speaker 2: longer invited to speak anywhere on the vineyard. The library
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  Speaker 2: has banned me. The community center has banned me. Friends
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  Speaker 2: won't talk to me just because I defended Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, during that election, I didn't even vote
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  Speaker 2: for Donald Trump. I voted for Biden. I was still
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  Speaker 2: a liberal Democrat, but I defended Donald Trump against an
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  Speaker 2: unconstitutional impeachment. Look, I'm an expert on the Constitution. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm an expert on the impeachment provisions of the Constitution.
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  Speaker 2: I know as much about it as any living human being.
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  Speaker 2: And I can tell you without any doubt that the
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  Speaker 2: impeachment against him, the first impeachment, was unconstitutional. And if
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  Speaker 2: Biden had been impeached on the same grounds, I would
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  Speaker 2: have defended Biden. I did defend Bill Clinton. I did
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  Speaker 2: defend Ted Kennedy. I did defend Alan Cranston. Most of
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  Speaker 2: my political cases have been in defense of Democrats. But
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  Speaker 2: when they went after Republicans, clearly on constitutional grounds. And
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  Speaker 2: the people who went after him ought to know better.
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  Speaker 2: Adam Schiff, who was a student at Harvard Law School,
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  Speaker 2: he studied the same Constitution as I did, but he
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  Speaker 2: was in charge of trying to railroad Donald Trump. Fortunately,
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  Speaker 2: he was acquitted, and I was part of that acquittal,
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  Speaker 2: and I was very proud of that, but it lost
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  Speaker 2: me friends. You know, my family has stuck with me,
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  Speaker 2: although none of my family have become Republicans, even my wife.
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  Speaker 2: She's no longer a Democrat. She's now an Independent. But
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  Speaker 2: she can't make that move to being a Republican because
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  Speaker 2: of Republicans' views on abortion and separation of church and state,
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  Speaker 2: on gun control and a range of other issues, the environment.
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  Speaker 2: Many of my friends who can't support the Democrats anymore
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  Speaker 2: can't make the jump to the Republicans. I have a
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  Speaker 2: different view. I want to see the Democrats defeated. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to see Democrats in control of the House
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  Speaker 2: or the Senate. I don't want to see people like
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  Speaker 2: AOC in chairmanships or Liz Warren in or God forbid, El-Said,
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  Speaker 2: who is a bigot and a racist and an anti-Semite
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  Speaker 2: and an anti-American. And the thing that really pushed me
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  Speaker 2: over the line was not when El-Said got nominated. It
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  Speaker 2: was when Chuck Schumer, the centrist leader of the Democratic Party,
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  Speaker 2: went and supported him, when Barack Obama went and supported him.
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  Speaker 2: It's when mainstream Democrats supported this anti-Israel, anti-American, radical extremist
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  Speaker 2: That's what persuaded me. There's no room for me in
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  Speaker 2: the Democratic Party. And by the way, there's no room
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: for John Fetterman in the Democratic Party, even though he's
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: the Democratic senator from Pennsylvania who will never get the
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: nomination for re-election. He's going to have to run as
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: an independent or as a Republican because the Democrat big
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: tent is big enough for anti-Semites, big enough for that
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Nazi from Maine who had to withdraw.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: Graham Plattner.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but not big enough for John Fetterman, not big
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: enough for me. That tells you something about the new
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Democratic Party and why I can't be part of it.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: And you mentioned a couple of things, and I want
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: to unpack it. I find it fascinating. So, number one,
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: you mentioned Schumer. When I was a little kid, I
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: grew up in Brooklyn, New York. Chuck Schumer was involved
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: in politics, and he would stop by the front of
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: our building, and he would mess up my hair as
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: I was riding my bike and say hello to my parents.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: That happened to your hair.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: It was Chuck Schumer who did it.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Just to play me out.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: And, you know, what's funny is he was really a
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: retail politician of the people. He was always in the field.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, even to this day, I think he still
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: does a Sunday afternoon press conference, which most United States
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: senators don't do. And I'm not singing his accolades. I'm
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: saying he seems to have hit his head and become
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: very strange because you mentioned him. He happens to be Jewish.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: You happen to be Jewish. Fetterman happens to be Jewish.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: And it seems like the Democrats are kicking the Jews out.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Fetterman is not Jewish, interestingly enough. John Fetterman. is a
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Protestant as far as I'm concerned. He's not Jewish, but
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: he's a very strong supporter of Jews and a strong
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: supporter of Israel. Look, Chuck Schumer is one problem, and
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: it's not his brain. It's what's between his legs and
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: not between his legs. He is particularly challenged. He has
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: no balls. He has no ability to stand up. He
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: knows that al-Said is no good for America. He knows,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: he claims he's Schumer, Shomer Yisrael, the guardian of Israel.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: He grew up just a few blocks from me. He
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: grew up in Brooklyn also. I remember him as a
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: student at Harvard Law School. And I supported him when
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: he ran for the Senate. But he has shown no
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: ability to stand up for the enemies of America, the
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: enemies of Israel, the enemies of decency. So when he
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: became a supporter of all these extreme radicals, that's when
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I said, The tent is not big enough for me.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: I can't be part of the Democratic Party. I am
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: now a fervent anti-Democrat and a reluctant Republican, but a
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: fervent anti-Democrat. I'll take it.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: I'm going to make a statement because this is something
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: I see. And you tell me if I'm right or wrong.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: It seems to me, right, you mentioned the rise of
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: a Nazi, Graham Platner, that we saw in Maine. We
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: see the pushing out of Jews in particular, I would say,
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: from the Democrat Party. Is it a safe assessment for
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: me to make that there is an active or novo
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Nazi movement afoot in America?
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, without a doubt. And it comes from the left
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: rather than the right, and so it's disguised. And people
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: don't see it because they think of fascism and Nazism
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: as coming from the right. Look, the Republicans have a problem, too. Obviously,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: there are people on the extreme of the right. of
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: the Republican Party who are neo-Nazi. But the interesting thing
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: is the Republicans have distanced themselves from them. Tucker Carlson
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: is no longer accepted by the Republican Party, certainly not
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: by the President of the United States, maybe by the
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Vice President, and that's a thing we have to talk about.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: But the Republicans have done a better job marginalizing their
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: right-wing extremists. The Democrats have embraced them, have brought them
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: to the center, have supported them, have endorsed them. And
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: that's what made me leave the the Democratic Party. I hope,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm only 88 years old, and so I
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: hope the Democratic Party at some point, but not this party.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: This party has to do a lot before I'm welcome
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: back in it.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: Professor, I know you're a legal scholar, but you're a
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: learned man, and as you alluded to, you know, wiser
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: than me by experience. Is there a political calculus that
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: I'm missing? Whereas whether it's being the Democrats are being
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: hijacked by this radical, like the Marxist Nazi wing of
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: the party, or they're embracing it either way. Is there
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: an actual win there or is this them grasping at straws?
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: Because when you look around, you look at the biggest
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: name in news is not CNN. It's Fox News. It
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: has been for forever. You look at the president of
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: the United States. More people voted for Trump than he
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: won the popular vote. It seems to be that America
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: seems to be right of center, but the Democrats are
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: flying hard and fast to the left. I agree.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: What's happened, of course, is that the Democrats have been
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: focusing on primaries, and primaries, very few people vote. And
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: you can win a primary like AOC did, win her
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: first primary by a few hundred votes, and then you
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: become a national figure. I do not believe that AOC
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: can win a statewide election, even maybe New York, California,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: but I doubt it. but she certainly couldn't win a
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: national election. So America is a centrist country, center-right, center-left.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: It's center. It's center. And the extremists on both sides
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: misread the American public. Now, what's happened is the Democrats
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: have won a lot of primaries by moving to the hard, hard,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: hard left. Maybe they'll win an election. Michigan is a
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: big deal. If they win in Michigan, El-Sayed, if they
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: win in Alaska, if they win in a number of
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: other places. This woman who's running, for example, as mayor
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: of Boulder, Colorado, on a platform of Israel doesn't even
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: deserve the right to exist. New Zealand can exist, even
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: though it's a colonial settler state composed of white Christians
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: who had nothing to do with the land, whereas Israel,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: of course, goes back 3,000 years as a place where
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Jews have made a homeland. But she's running on that
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: in Boulder, Colorado, and she's winning. And so what we're
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: seeing is in some parts of the country, at college towns,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: they're winning. Let me give you another example. I grew
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: up in Brooklyn, but I spent my life in New England.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: I spent my entire life, my professional life, for 62
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: years I've been a professor at Harvard University. If Collins
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: loses in Maine, which she may do, there will not
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: be a single, not a single Republican in either the
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: House or the Senate from the entire area of New England,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: which is 45% Republican. It means that 45% of the
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: public in New England will be disenfranchised. And that's because
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: the left has taken over in New England. People like
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Liz Warren, people like, you name it, the senator from Connecticut,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: the other senator from Massachusetts, Markey, all of them very,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: very left. Are they really left or are they opportunists? Oh,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I've known some of these people for years. I think
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: they've become opportunists. Becoming hard left has become good for
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: politics in the short run and good for business. And tragically,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: becoming an anti-Semite has become good for business, too. And
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: too many people are doing that. And we have to
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: fight back. And that's part of why I left the
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Democratic Party. And I'm now a reluctant Republican. I'm moving.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: toward becoming a less reluctant Republican as the Democrats get
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: worse and the Republicans get a little better. And let's
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: see what happens in this election, in the presidential election.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: And we'll get into that in a moment. Familia, the
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: book is Why I Quit the Dems and So Should You,
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: Confessions of a Reluctant Republican. Professor Alan Dershowitz, Professor Emeritus
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: from Harvard. He's defended everybody under the sun. You've seen
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: him on TV for ages. And Professor, a little while ago,
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: you mentioned how difficult it was when you defended President
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: Trump and you took a lot of heat. And I
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: get that. I mean, I had him on this show
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: and I took some heat for that. People are people.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: But you've also had other very controversial figures. Jeffrey Epstein,
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: for example. Talk to me about that. Did they treat
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: you badly when you represented Jeffrey Epstein?
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Not nearly as bad. Not nearly as bad as when
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I defended O.J. Simpson or Klaus von Bulow or Michael
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Milton or Leona Helmsley. I've, you know, Mike Tyson, I've
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: represented so many people and I don't agree with all
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: the people I've represented. Obviously, I'm like a doctor in
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: an emergency room. You know, the patient gets wheeled in.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: You don't ask him about his politics. You cure his illness.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: And I do the same thing. I try to deal
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: with the legal issues without getting into the political issues.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: But clearly, for many people, who you represent means who
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: you are. And that's just old-fashioned McCarthyism, holding people responsible
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: for their But even if you want to hold me
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: responsible for my clients, most of my clients have been
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: liberal Democrats. But as soon as I represented Donald Trump,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: that made me unkosher. On Martha's Vineyard, nobody would allow
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: me to speak anywhere on Martha's Vineyard. And, you know,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I have an opportunity to speak all over. So it
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: doesn't deny me really a fundamental right. It denies my listeners.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: The people of Martha's Vineyard want to hear me speak.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: but the library won't allow me to speak, and the
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: community center won't allow me to speak, and the Hebrew
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: center won't allow me to speak. So what we're seeing
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: is blatant censorship. And the bookstores on Martha's Vineyard won't
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: sell my books, even though I probably have sold more
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: books than any living person on Martha's Vineyard. The Martha's
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Vineyard bookstores won't sell my books, just like the independent
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: bookstores in your neighborhood won't sell my books. I've had
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: six New York Times bestsellers 10 national bestsellers. I've sold
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: millions of books and it's profitable for a bookstore to
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: run my book. They will not carry my book because
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: they don't believe in free speech. They don't believe in
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: the marketplace of ideas. They don't believe in the First Amendment.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: They are enemies of the First Amendment, not friends of
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: the First Amendment, even when it hurts them economically.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: With respect to, and listen, I understand people are constantly
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: ostracizing people primarily on the right. I remember we talked
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: about a previous book you had where you had been
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: maligned and accused and just dragged through the ringer for things.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Was part of that the blowback from the Epstein representation?
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: Do you think it was a pushback from that or
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: was it completely unrelated in your opinion?
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: No, it was clearly related. What happened is a woman
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: falsely accuse me right from day one i proved that
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: i couldn't have been any of the places uh and
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: i denied it and ultimately uh she admitted that she
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: might have might have may have um misidentified me confused
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: me with somebody else and she withdrew her her her
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: lawsuit and so that that part of my life ended
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: but you know people still walk up to me on
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: the street and call me a pedophile i wait Trump
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: gets that too.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Well, I was having a cup of coffee. Fortunately, I
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: was having a cup of coffee. I'll tell you why
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: in a minute. With my son, my grandson and my
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: daughter-in-law on the Martha's Vineyard. Farmer's Market. And a guy
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: comes over to me and calls me a pedophile and
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: says that no children should be allowed around me. And
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: he comes at me, comes at me physically. I mean,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: he's eight years old and I back away and I
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: fall and I hurt myself. And then he comes at
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: me again and I start to stand up. Fortunately, I
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: had a cup of coffee in my hand and I
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: threw it in his face and he ran away. But
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I have been physically attacked and I have been obviously
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: verbally attacked over and over again for something I never did.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: I've had sex with one woman since the day I
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: met Jeffrey Epstein, my wonderful, incredible wife of 46 years.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: And I will continue that tradition until the day I die.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: And so these accusations among friends fall on deaf ears.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: But people don't know me. might take seriously an accusation
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: that I had sex with somebody who I never met,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: never heard of, but don't know.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Friends, the book is Why I Quit the Dems and
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: So Should You. The guest, Professor Alan Dershowitz. Now, Professor,
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: you know, I took over a radio show in 2022
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: that was helmed by Jim Bohannon and Larry King.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, Jim was great. I used to be on the
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: show all the time. I loved him. 10 o'clock at
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: night on Sunday. I remember I would always be on
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: with Bohannon. Yeah.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: And he was a giant in this industry and Larry
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: King before him. And to me, I said, I got
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: to learn from each of these guys, you know, a
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: little bit of the craft. And one of the things
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: I took from Jim was to be affable and to
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: just be kind. And one of the things I took
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: from Larry was to ask this question, which is what's
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: a nice Jewish kid from Brooklyn like you ending up
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: in a situation like this? What was your path like?
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: Did you know when you were a little kid, I
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: grew up in Midwood, Ocean Avenue, Avenue M. So wherever
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: you were, probably not too far. Is that what you said?
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: I'm going to be a lawyer and I'm going to
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: go work in Harvard. I'm going to defend all these
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: wonderful people. Or what was the plan for you? And
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: how did you end up here?
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Well, first, I grew up in Borough Park, an Orthodox
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Jewish neighborhood. I was from Midwood. I went to Brooklyn College.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: I walked to Brooklyn College. And I knew I was
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: going to be a lawyer from the time I could talk.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: because everybody told me that, you know, I was argumentative
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: and I was always winning arguments. And I was not
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: a good high school student. I finished 39th out of
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: a class of 47 or something like that. And I
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: couldn't get into college. Fortunately, I won a New York
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: State scholarship on a competitive exam because I was a
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: good exam taker. And so I did get into Brooklyn
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: College where I finished at the top of my class.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: And then Yale Law School Never occurred to me to
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: be a professor ever in a million years. I wanted
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: to be, you know, Clarence Darrow. I wanted to be
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Abe Lincoln. I wanted to be John Adams. I wanted
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: to be the guy who was out there defending the
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: innocent people. Little did I know that the vast majority
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: of my clients would be guilty. And by the way,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: thank God for that. Would anybody want to live in
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: a country where the majority of people charged with crime
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: are innocent? That's Iran. That's, you know, maybe Turkey today.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: That's Cuba. That's Russia. That's China. It's not the United States.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: In the United States, if you want to be a
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: criminal defense lawyer, you have to be ready to defend
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: guilty as well as innocent people. And so that's what
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: I've done all my life. And for 50 years, I
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: was a law professor. I was one of the most
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: popular law professors at Harvard. By the way, Harvard has
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: not invited me back in the 12 years since I retired.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: The law school doesn't want any part of me because
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: I defended Trump. And so, you know, we're having The
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: same situation that occurred in Martha's Vineyard occurs at Harvard
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Law School, where the vast majority of professors are left-wing Democrats,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: and they don't want to remember one of their most
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: famous professors, who is no longer a Democrat, but now
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: a Republican who defended Trump. So, you know, the students
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: at Harvard are being denied the opportunity to hear me,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: but I guess the administration is okay with that.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Many of the things you've done, you first came on
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: my radar when I was, I think, in high school.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: And you were part of what the media was calling
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: the dream team, a play on the Olympic team. You
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: and Robert Kardashian and Bob Shapiro and Johnny Cochran, right,
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: as well. And it was just a phenomenal thing to watch.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: Nobody had seen anything like that, at least in my lifetime.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: I had not seen the chase and then the legal drama.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: The glove don't fit, all that stuff. What was it
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: like being a part of that? And what was it,
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: you know, was that pre-Harvard for you or was it
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: in the midst of your?
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I was a professor at Harvard. In fact, one of
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: the reasons I was not able to be at the
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: trial too often. I was there, you know, six or
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: seven times, but I wasn't there every day because I
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: was teaching at Harvard. I was there in the courtroom
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: when he tried on the glove and it didn't fit.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: I was literally five feet away from him. You know,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: it was interesting. It was not a dream team. It
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: was a nightmare team. F. Lee Bailey wanted him to
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: take the witness stand. I did not want to take
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: the witness stand. I was right. We had a much
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: better chance without him taking the stand. He did take
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: the stand in a civil case, and he was found
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: liable at the civil case. So it was an exciting time.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: I was pushed around a lot by people. by, by
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: cameramen and journalists. When I try to walk into the courtroom,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: you know, everybody in the world was trying to get
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: into that trial.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I bet. And, and, and, and, you know, it was,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: it was an important, an important case. It wasn't my
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: most important case. You know, I've had so many cases
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: over the years. Probably the one I'm most proud of
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: is Anatoly Sharansky, Anton Sharansky, the Soviet dissident who was
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: subject to execution. I won his case and got him
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: freed and, he was able to move to Israel. So,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: you know, I've had a lot of cases. I've had
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: like around 30 homicide-related cases and won almost every one
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: of them. So I've had an amazing record in homicide cases.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: And most of those cases I've won through science have
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: been able to prove, like we did in the OJ case,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: that he couldn't have, the evidence couldn't be valid, that
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: the evidence in the case was clearly planted or that
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: the evidence didn't rise to the level of beyond a
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: reasonable doubt. So You know, my career has been a
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: mix of teaching and litigating and writing. I've written 64 books.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: And as I said, only 88, so I'm hoping to
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: get to 75. But we'll wait and see.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: You got a ways to go. Now, would you say
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: that when you're out and about, are people recognizing you
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: most for O.J., most for Trump, most for Epstein, or
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: most for which one?
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, now it's Epstein. Now it's yelling and screaming at me, pervert, pedophile,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: you know, child, F you, all those things. That's the
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: one mostly that I'm recognized for. Certainly not OJ or
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Klaus von Bulow or Milton or any of those. You know,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: they'll be in my obituary. But, you know, my obituary
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: will also include a false accusation against me. And they'll
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: say I denied it. Well, I not only denied it,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I disproved it. But it doesn't matter. So that will
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: be included. So instead of having a certain clear unequivocal legacy,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: clearly the legacy will have been tainted by a false
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: accusation that I was able to disprove. And one of
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: the reasons I offered to testify in front of Congress
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: is I think the problem of false accusations is a
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: very serious one that goes way beyond the Epstein case.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: And we have to make sure that anonymous accusations are
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: not permitted like in the Cornell case The idea that
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: a woman whose name has not been made public is
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: accusing people whose names have been made public If you
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: make her name public people can come forward at least
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: and provide information about her, you know Maybe she's done
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: this before maybe she has a history of what maybe
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: not maybe she's completely credible and honest but the idea
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: that in America you can have accusations and anonymous and
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: people can suffer from them. I certainly suffer from anonymous
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: accusations and I've demanded that the names be published. Nobody
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: should have the right to accuse anybody anonymously.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's constitutional, right? Facing your accuser in
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: open court.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Criminal case. You know, there's an exception for young children, obviously,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: and we accept that. But when you have an adult
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: who's making false accusations, those false accusations have to be
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: subject to rigorous cross-examination.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Professor, if you had to leave a word of advice
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: for those that come after me and after you, those
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: that are to come yet, right? I've got two kids.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: One's 25, one is 21. And whether it's regarding the
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: topic of the book, you know, about politics or really
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: just about life in general or both, what's your advice
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: to those that come next?
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Well, I have a new book that'll be out probably
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: in a year, which is my advice book. And it's called,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: based on a song, It ain't necessarily so. It ain't
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: necessarily so. So the name of the book is It
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Ain't Necessarily So, subtitled My Guide to Life as a Skeptic.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: I think you have to live life as a skeptic.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: I think you have to question everything. I think you
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: can't accept things just because people say it. A friend
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: of mine just wrote to me today and said, I
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: just read this book on Roy Cohn and you were
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: at his funeral. No, I wasn't at his funeral. It's
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: in a book, but I wasn't at his funeral. and
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: you know there's so many things that people have written
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: people have said that are not true so live life
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: as a skeptic it doesn't mean you're not principled you
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: have principles but question everything and don't accept things just
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: on the basis that, you know, they say. This was
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: an old expression in Brooklyn that Sid Rosenberg recently made
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: famous when he yelled this out in the State of
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: the Union message when Biden was speaking and Biden said
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: something negative about Israel. And Sid yelled out, says who?
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Says who?
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: We said that in Brooklyn all the time. That was
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: our favorite expression growing up in Brooklyn. And people said something.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: It was says who? Yeah, says who? Show me.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: Prove it.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: That's been my life experience. And I think it served
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: me very well. And I think it serves other people
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: as well. So says who? It ain't necessarily so. Prove it.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: I love it. Listen, if the book writing thing doesn't
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: work out for you, you've got a future as a crooner.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Uh-huh.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Ah, I was a young choir boy and my grandfathers
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: were both Chazanu, that is, cantors. So I do have
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: a good voice and I like to sing. And so
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: maybe when they cast Sport and Life in the next
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: version of Porgy and Bess, I'll try out for it.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: It ain't necessary.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: There you go. Familia, we're on with Alan Dershowitz. The
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: book is Why I Quit the Dems and So Should You.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: Confessions of a Reluctant Republican. You see it right there
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: on the screen. Alan Dershowitz, is there any place besides
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: Amazon that you want them to go? Is there a
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: website they should go to?
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: I think Barnes & Noble, any online bookstore. But if
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: you go to your local bookstore, just say, why don't
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: you have Dershowitz's book?
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: It's a bestseller. You know, it's high up on Amazon lists.
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: You'll sell copies if you have it in your window. No,
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: we don't want Dershowitz's book. We support the First Amendment
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: as we define it. Free speech for me, but not
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: for thee. So let them have it.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Tell them. Tell them.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: Welcome to our side. Sir, you're a gentleman, a scholar,
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: and a patriot. I want to thank you for being here.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Godspeed to you.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Thanks. Thanks to you, too.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: Friends, there's more to come straight ahead. Don't go anywhere.
• 41:34
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• 41:57
  Speaker 4: All right, familia, welcome back. Rich Valdez keeping you company
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: this evening. And what an amazing conversation with Professor Alan Dershowitz.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: Lots more to discuss. I want to get into more
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: of this discussion. Election irregularity in Brazil. I want to
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: get into just a couple of things, man, because, you know,
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: I was at a dinner party over the weekend and
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: talking to an executive from one of the big networks.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: And I got to tell you, he's a closeted conservative.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: And he was telling me, you know, I feel like
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: we're not going to win in November. I feel like
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: we're not going to win in 2028. He's concerned about
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: what Dershowitz just mentioned. He was telling me about, he's like,
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: you know, I think J.D. Vance is a great communicator,
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: but I'm not 100% sold on, you know, how well
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: he gets along with Tucker and that crazy faction of
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: the Groypers and whatnot. And, you know, I think the
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: bigger question becomes how much of America is influenced by
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: that type of thinking and how much isn't. And it's
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: not so much do you hate the Jews, do you
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: love the Jews, although I think it does boil down
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: to that in many ways. But it's more so do
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: we have a real fervent movement of isolationists, of nativists,
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: of people that don't believe that the United States should
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: lead globally, but they believe the United States should disappear
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: globally and only exist here within our 50 states. They
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: don't want anything to do with anything overseas. They don't
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: want any additional languages spoken here. They want to just
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: be English. And I can tell you, I speak English
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: and Spanish and Portuguese, and I speak a little bit
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: of French, very little bit. But I was at a
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: loss because I don't speak any German. And when I
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: was in Switzerland, everything was German. And Italian's one of
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: their languages, but not in the section I was at.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: And everyone treated me very, I'm going to say, I
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: want to say poorly, right? I didn't enjoy the way
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: I was treated when I was lost on their train
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: system and asking a question. You ask a question like, hey,
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: do you speak English? They look at you like, what
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: the hell would I speak English for, you moron? Even
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: if they did, and most of them did, do, I
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: should say, and they just didn't want to speak to
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: me because I was that, quote, unquote, dumb American. Dumb
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: American only speaks one language. And I get it. Outside
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: of the United States, most people speak more than one language,
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: like everywhere on this planet, most places, maybe sub-Saharan Africa
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: and even there, right? Because there's different dialects for different tribes,
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: different countries there. So if you're near Angola, they speak
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: Portuguese in Angola, you probably speak some African dialect as
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: well as Portuguese, right? Because just navigating the surrounds, And
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: in America, we have the luxury in the United States
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: of if you speak English, you can get by. But
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: I learned this lesson young in life because I moved
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: from Brooklyn, New York, where everybody spoke English, right? It
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: was the melting pot. You know, whether you were the
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: old Jewish man speaking in Yiddish, what are you, Meshuggah, right?
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: That guy to the guy who ran the candy store
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: around the corner, I think his name was Muhammad, and
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: he was like, hey, good morning, how are you, my friend? And,
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: you know, there were all sorts of people, but everybody
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: did their effort to speak English. But when I was
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: about 12 years old, I moved to New Jersey and
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: a county named Hudson and a town called West New York,
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: right next to a very small town called Guttenberg. I
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: also lived there and North Bergen, New Jersey. And, and
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: in these areas, something was very clear to me. You
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: didn't need to speak English at all. You could survive
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: entirely with Spanish. That's how concentrated it was. There were
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: no black people, none. If you saw a black person,
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: it was like they were passing through. None lived there.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: Matter of fact, today, still none live there, very few.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: See somebody dark, he's probably a dark Puerto Rican, a
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: dark Dominican, but he's not like a black American that
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: has ancestry going into the south of this country or
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: even like a Jamaican or anything like that. You're not
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: going to find it. And it's just the culture of
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: the community. And I don't think it's a racist culture either.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: I think it's just they stick with themselves. When I
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: moved there, it was very Cuban. It had been very
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: Puerto Rican. It became very Mexican, then became very Colombian,
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: or maybe then Dominican, then Colombian, and then Mexican, I
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: should say. And then now maybe El Salvadorian, Guatemalan, all
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: sorts of, you know, further down into Central America. But
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: the key theme, everyone speaks Spanish. All the restaurants sell
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: Spanish food. It is a largely Hispanic neighborhood. And I
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: realized that I didn't need English to get by in
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: my barbershop business or my cell phone business. I needed Spanish. Now,
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: that was something that I had not encountered before. So
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: I bring all of that up to say that you
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: can get by in some places with one language, but
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: you definitely need two. And I think there are voters
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: out there, bringing it back full circle, that are very
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: concerned with the language that the vice president speaks. They
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: don't know if he's speaking Nazi or if he's speaking Maga,
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: to be very frank. And I'm not saying that. I'm
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: telling you what, I'm hearing people tell me when I
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: was at the CPAC in Texas, when I was at
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: the CPAC in Budapest, Hungary. So the question becomes, he
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: may have the war chest He might have the name recognition.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: But does he have the support? Is he on the
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: same page or are people concerned? That is the big question.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: So I don't know the answer to that. I've never
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: met J.D.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Vance.
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: I've never interviewed J.D.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Vance.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: His team has never reached out, unlike the Trump team did.
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: I've never, you know, matter of fact, when I was
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: working with Levin, we tried reaching out to J.D. Vance once.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: And I remember we had a tough time connecting. Eventually
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: we got him, but his team wasn't initially very responsive,
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: if I remember correctly. But I say that to say,
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: I don't know. And there is a concern that keeps
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: coming up. And people, I can't go anywhere without people
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: asking me, is Marco running? Man, I'd love Marco to
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: be a great president. Rubio would be fantastic in 28.
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: So there is a concern in MAGA world about who
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: do we put up in 28? Is it going to
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: be Rubio? Is it going to be Vance? Rubio's basically
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: said if Vance is running, I'm with Vance. I'm very
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: close to betting an appendage of mine that Rubio would
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: never accept a vice presidential position. My gut tells me that.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: But you never know. You never know at all. So
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of people automatically assume he'll take
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: a position like that. And they're like, Vance Rubio, unstoppable.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: We'll get Vance for eight years. Then we'll get Rubio
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: for another eight years. Man, we will kill the game.
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know that it works that well. This isn't
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: fantasy football. This is real life politics. I don't wake
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: up every day and meet a new MAGA person. I
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: wake up every day and I meet a new communist.
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: I'm just telling you the truth. Now, yes, I am
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: four or five miles from Times Square, New York City,
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: on the Jersey side, but it's still five miles away
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: from there. So I understand that I'm in the belly
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: of the beast. I do understand that there are pragmatic
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: Republicans that are pro-choice, that are not necessarily ironclad conservatives,
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: that are experiencing... a lot of popularity right now. Bruce Blakeman,
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: for example, doing great in the polls. He did fantastic
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: in that debate. And I think that's terrific. I like
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: Bruce Blakeman. I hope he wins. I really do. My
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: concern is that so many of the people that have
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: the biggest opinions that are so upset with New York
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: that can't stand AOC, that can't stand Mamdani, these people
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: have all moved from New York. Every last one of them.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: Some of them have moved to like Westchester or Long Island.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: So they're still in New York. They've left the city,
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: but they've gone to suburbs. But the majority of them
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: have left to Florida. Some have come to Jersey. So again,
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: I'm not a fortune teller. I believe that this is
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: as good a shot as any to win. But we've
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: got a lot of work to do. And we've got
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: to shore things up on the home front. We've got
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: to make sure we're on the same page. We can't
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: keep fighting each other. We can't. just keep, you know,
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: having this conversation. Look, I like Trump. This is what
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: I hear a lot of too. I like Trump. I
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: voted for him three times, but listen, I'm not, I'm
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: not doing it again. Um, this, this, this, the ass prices, this,
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: this whole, uh, Iran, come on, come on. I don't
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: want to do that anymore. Right? This, this, um, Johnny
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: come lately stuff. It's a, come on, bro. So what
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: are you going to do? I, I don't like the war.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: Let me go with mom.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Donnie.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: Let me go with L say, Ed, let me go
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: with Kathy Hochul for another four, who is a bad
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: version of Andrew Cuomo. I mean, I just don't understand
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: the logic. I would much rather say, it's like this
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: to me, and this is going to probably get me
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: in trouble, but you go to a party, you got
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: your eye on a pretty girl. You're, you know, 20
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: years old, college days. And she leaves. And there's a
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: girl that's not as attractive, maybe not the weight you like.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: And you're thinking, well, not really my type. So let
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: me just take that guy home.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: What?
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: Who thinks like that? Nobody thinks like that, right? This is,
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: this should be a non-negotiable here. We shouldn't be talking
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: about staying home or voting for a Democrat because of
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: the angst we have at the gas pump, which by
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: the way is going down. I just, 390 something is
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: what I saw just yesterday. So that's my cautionary tale
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: for everyone. We have to know what we stand on.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: We've got to make sure we're standing on America. We're
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: standing on backing up the president. We're standing on making
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: sure that we get things done. Like Nicki Minaj said,
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: we don't want to see our kids become transsexuals. We
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: want to make sure kids have a fair chance at
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: being able to grow up. We want to make sure
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: that the next generation of tradesmen emerge from this new
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: economy that's being built right now of AI and data centers.
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: And we can't get in the way of that either.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: Stop your whining. Stop your crying. Build the buildings. The
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: builder gets paid. The painter gets paid. The framer gets paid.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: The carpenter gets paid. The sheetrock guy. All of them.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: The electrician, the plumber. Make sure your kids are getting
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: into that type of work rather than, you know, continuing
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: to push the fields that we know are dissipating and
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: they're not there. Sales is going to continue to thrive.
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: Coding and AI training and stuff like that. Fantastic. I
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: don't know that a career like mine is what it
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: looks like in the future when we start listening. As
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: it is right now, I'm scrolling through social media. I
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: saw this comedian. She was telling a joke. She was
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: very funny. The top of the screen was her telling
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: the joke on stage somewhere doing stand-up. The bottom was
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: the exact same joke verbatim. They changed her voice through AI.
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  Speaker 4: matched it up with an AI avatar of some really,
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  Speaker 4: really hot chick and like a blonde wearing tight leather
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  Speaker 4: Daisy Duke shorts. And the other girl was wearing like
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: a loose fitting shirt and some baggy jeans. And her
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  Speaker 4: caption was, AI stole my joke. And it's all over
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  Speaker 4: the internet. So yeah, AI can steal my shtick too.
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  Speaker 4: Come up with an AI avatar that claims to be
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: You know, maybe not America's liberty-loving Latino amigo, but, you know,
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: America's handsome Hispanic something or other. You know? Honcho. Head honcho.
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  Speaker 4: And voila, now you've got a competitor that isn't even
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: real that's repurposing and spinning my content and the content
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  Speaker 4: of others to make this AI bot person that, They
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: can put a face, a voice, a name too. They
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: can do everything. They can create a whole character. Now,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not saying that's the case today, but that could
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  Speaker 4: be the case in the future. And what do we do?
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  Speaker 4: How do we do? So that's what it boils down to.
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  Speaker 4: We got to stand on something. As we stand for nothing,
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: we will fall for anything. And the only thing necessary
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  Speaker 4: for evil to triumph is for good people like you
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  Speaker 4: to sit there and do nothing. So make sure you
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: do something. Hasta la proxima. Take care. Good night. And
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  Speaker 4: God bless you, America. I'm Rich Valdez, and this is America.
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  Speaker 1: This is America. This is America.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.