Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein And The Police Report That Exposed Him (Part 5-7) (5/24/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 0:04In this episode, we're going to pick up where we
- 0:06left off with the Palm Beach police report from the
- 0:10initial investigation into Jeffrey Epstein and as crimes. The victim
- 0:16agreed and our arrangements were made to bring the victim
- 0:19to Epstein's house on a weekend. Redacted stated that she
- 0:23and redacted later identified as redacted picked up the victim
- 0:27at the victim's house. They traveled to Epstein's house and
- 0:30entered through the kitchen door. They met with the house
- 0:33chef and Epstein's assistant, Sarah. The victim was introduced to
- 0:37Epstein while they were in the kitchen area. Sarah led
- 0:40the victim upstairs and Epstein went upstairs. When the massage
- 0:44was over, the victim returned to the kitchen area. Redacted
- 0:47stated that she was paid two hundred dollars to bring
- 0:50the victim to Epstein's Redacted stated that the victim told
- 0:53her that she was paid three hundred dollars for the massage.
- 0:57Back in the vehicle, redacted as the victim what the
- 1:00victim told her about the massage, and then they went shopping.
- 1:04Redacted stated that the victim was the last person she
- 1:07brought to Epstein. She further stated that she had changed
- 1:11her cellular number to avoid being contacted by Sarah. She
- 1:15continued that when Epstein announced to his assistant that he
- 1:19is traveling to Palm Beach, Sarah would contact redacted to
- 1:23arrange girls for Epstein. Sarah, later identified as Sarah Kellen
- 1:28date of birth redacted, had told her redacted that Jeff
- 1:31likes to have fun with all the girls. So again,
- 1:34just to interject here, Sarah kelln Vicker's name brought up
- 1:38all over these core documents and nothing. She's not brought in,
- 1:42She's not the post, She's not held to account. I
- 1:46wonder why. Redacted stated that once her parents discovered that
- 1:50she was visiting Epstein, they disapproved of the encounters with
- 1:54them and she stopped. Redacted further stated that Sarah still
- 1:58tries to call the house and leave messages. With the
- 2:01assistance of redacted, we were able to identify redacted, dob redacted, redacted,
- 2:07and redacted redacted one more time and another redaction. Sergeant
- 2:11Frick entered the room and explained that based on her
- 2:14own statements, she had implicated herself with bringing underage girls
- 2:18to Epstein's house. Redacted was aware of what she had
- 2:21stated and wished to assist further in hopes to receive
- 2:24a lesser charge. Redacted provided cellular telephone numbers for the
- 2:29girl she had mentioned previously. Additionally, she also provided possible
- 2:33addresses and areas in which they lived. As Redacted was
- 2:37being taken home in the vehicle, a tape recorder was
- 2:40placed within the vehicle to record any conversations within the vehicle.
- 2:45During the drive back to her home, Redacted made the
- 2:48comment unlike a Heidi Flices, Hollywood madam who sent girls
- 2:52to clients for sexual favors in California. Redacted was dropped
- 2:56off at her house without incident. Sergeant Frick and I
- 3:00went to redacted locks a Hatchie, Florida, in an attempt
- 3:03to speak with Redacted. We met with the ongoing investigation
- 3:07and felt that Redacted may have additional information as we
- 3:11had information that she had worked for Jeff Misredacted introduced
- 3:15us to her husband and allowed us entry into the home.
- 3:19We sat in the dining room and met with redacted.
- 3:23As she was under age of eighteen, Misredacted was advised
- 3:27we would be speaking with her. She expressed if her
- 3:30daughter had information she wanted to assist. As we interviewed
- 3:34or Redacted, she denied having any inappropriate encounters with Jeff.
- 3:38She stated she had gone to Jeff's house with Hailey
- 3:41Robson approximately eight months ago and sat in the kitchen
- 3:44with the house chef, but nothing happened as the parents
- 3:47were present. During the interview, we felt that Redacted was
- 3:50withholding information from us. She made several comments as to
- 3:55she has put the entire incident behind her. I left
- 3:58my direct phone number and advice should she wish to
- 4:01speak with me again to telephone me Sergeant Frick and
- 4:04I thank Misredacted for her time and left the area.
- 4:08She stated she would ask her again after we left
- 4:11as to what happened at Epstein's house. I informed her
- 4:14that Redacted had my telephone number and hopefully she would
- 4:18call Sergeant Frick and I then attempted to contact Redacted
- 4:22at redacted in Locksahatchie. We met with Redacted, who stated
- 4:26Redacted was her daughter. Redacted was at the Wellington Mall
- 4:30and she was not home. We explained the ongoing investigation
- 4:35and felt that Redacted may have additional information. As we
- 4:38had information that she had worked for Jeff. We left
- 4:41our phone numbers and asked her to telephone me upon
- 4:44her daughter's return. We then left the area. On October fourth,
- 4:48two thousand and five, at approximately eight oh five am,
- 4:51Sergeant Frick had retrieved a voicemail message from redacted. She
- 4:56stated she had spoken with her daughter and she had
- 4:58information as to what occurred at Jeff's house. I contacted
- 5:03or redacted, who stated her daughter was in the shower
- 5:05at the moment and would be traveling back to Orlando
- 5:08to attend college. I informed her I would be en
- 5:11route to her home in Locksahatchie. Detective Dawson and I
- 5:15drove to the home and met with redacted and redacted.
- 5:18During a sworn tape statement, Redacted stated that she was
- 5:21taken to the house by Hailey Robson. She was told
- 5:24she could make money working for Jeff. She was told
- 5:27she would have to provide a massage to Jeff. Redacted
- 5:30stated upon her arrival to the house, she was brought
- 5:33to the kitchen area by Robson. They met with the
- 5:37house chef and Haley stayed in the kitchen. She was
- 5:40introduced to Sarah, Jeff's assistant and was brought upstairs to
- 5:43the master bedroom. Sarah prepared the room and massage table
- 5:46for a massage. Epstein entered the room and she provided
- 5:50a massage. Redacted stated that she kept her clothes on
- 5:54during the massage. She stated sometime during the massage, Epstein
- 5:58grabbed her buttox and pulled her clothes to them. Redacted
- 6:01said that she was weirded out by the incident involving Jeff.
- 6:05At the conclusion of the massage, she was paid two
- 6:07hundred dollars for the massage. I asked redacted if she
- 6:11had any formal training in massages, to which she replied no.
- 6:15I asked her if Robson received any monies for taking
- 6:17her to perform the massage. Redacted stated Robson also received
- 6:22money for taking her there. Redacted stated she went with
- 6:25Robson and another girl, Redacted to Jeff's house once. Redacted
- 6:29stated that she waited in the kitchen with Robson while
- 6:32Redacted was taken upstairs by Sarah. Redacted stated she only
- 6:37did the massage once as she was weirded out by
- 6:40the whole experience. At the conclusion of the interview and
- 6:44the tape was stopped, I was informed that Sarah had
- 6:46attempted to reach Redacted via cell phone. A voicemail message
- 6:50on October fourth, two thousand and five, at ten fifty
- 6:54nine am revealed a female voice who identified herself as Sarah,
- 6:58who requested her to call her back reference the police questioning.
- 7:03The voicemail message was recorded onto a micro cassette, again
- 7:07Sarah Kelln trying to gum up the works and somehow
- 7:10Sarah Kelln was never arrested. This voicemail message was recorded
- 7:15onto a micro cassett provided the incoming telephone number as
- 7:19redacted and Redacted stated she inadvertently told Redacted about the
- 7:23police investigation because Redacted had called her to tell her
- 7:27about how she had just received a rental car from
- 7:29Jeff Epstein. Redacted had called her to tell her that
- 7:32she was given a rental car, a silver Nissan Sentra,
- 7:36to utilize to visit family and to visit Jeff. Redacted
- 7:40asked her what was going on at the house that
- 7:42the police would be asking questions. Redacted stated that Redacted
- 7:47then called Jeff and Sarah and asked what was going
- 7:49on in reference to the ongoing police investigation. According to Redacted,
- 7:54Sarah has since then been trying to contact her to
- 7:57ask about the police questions. Instructed or redacted not to
- 8:01contact Sarah and do not provide any more information to
- 8:05redacted as she would notify jeff Epstein and Sarah what
- 8:09was transpiring. Now we're jumping over to the narrative of
- 8:13Lee Lamont. On March thirtieth, two thousand and five, I
- 8:17was asked by Sergeant Daniel Cesarski to begin conducting surveillance
- 8:21and trash pulls reference Detective Pagan conducting a criminal investigation
- 8:25involving Jeffrey Epstein. I was advised that Epstein was possibly
- 8:29engaging in sexual contact with young females. On March thirtieth,
- 8:33two thousand and five, I made contact with Town of
- 8:36Palm Beach Sanitation Office supervisor Tony Higgins and requested trash
- 8:40pulls for three point fifty eight Albrio Way to begin
- 8:44on March thirty first, two thousand and five. On March
- 8:47thirty first, two thousand and five, at nine twenty am,
- 8:50I responded to the area of three fifty eight Albrio
- 8:53Way and met with Town of Palm Beach Sanitation employee
- 8:56Jeffrey Williams. I observe Williams enter the driveway up three
- 9:00p fifty eight Albrio Way, collect the trash bags from
- 9:03Epstein's property and place the contents into an empty sanitation truck.
- 9:08I followed Williams to a nearby area, where he turned
- 9:11over seventeen white plastic bags which were collected from the
- 9:15Epstein property. I took the trash bags to the sanitation department,
- 9:20where I sifted through its contents. I collected mail correspondence
- 9:24from Armani Exchange addressed to Nadia Marsenkova, Jeffrey Epstein notepaper
- 9:30with redacted an important message. Notepaper addressed to JE dated
- 9:35three twenty nine oh five at a fifteen reference redacted.
- 9:39US Airways boarding pass copy for passenger Janoos Banisik, Montgomery County,
- 9:45Maryland Health Department Food Service ID redacted for Janice Banisik
- 9:50and Glenn Maxwell. Notepaper with names and phone numbers. Photo
- 9:54copies of the trash collected were attached with the supplement.
- 9:58Detective Pegan was advised of the contents that were collected
- 10:02for evidentiary value. On March thirty first, two thousand and five,
- 10:07Sergeant Daniel Sazarski requested that I set up surveillance vehicle
- 10:11on Elbrio Way and conduct video surveillance of the front
- 10:14exterior of Epstein's residence. At three PM, I set up
- 10:18a surveillance vehicle equipped with a video monitoring device. The
- 10:22surveillance vehicle was parked on Elbrio Way, approximately fifty feet
- 10:26east of Epstein's driveway. The purpose of the video surveillance
- 10:30was to gather investigative intelligence by monitoring and recording all
- 10:34vehicle and pedestrian traffic entering and leaving Epstein's property. The
- 10:40video surveillance tapes were changed daily with a new Maxwell
- 10:44T one sixty VHS tape. Video surveillance was established for
- 10:48Epstein's from March thirty first, two thousand and five, through
- 10:52April fifth, two thousand and five. On April fifth, two
- 10:55thousand and five, video surveillance was concluded. I review the
- 10:59videotapes and advised Detective Pagan the surveillance videos yielded no
- 11:03evidentiary value. On April first, two thousand and five, at
- 11:08nine thirty am, I responded to the area of three
- 11:11fifty eight Lbrio Way to meet with Town upon Beach
- 11:14Sanitation employee Jesse Jones. While parked in the area of
- 11:18three fifty eight lbrio Way waiting to collect Epstein's trash.
- 11:23I observed a white female who I recognized as Nadia
- 11:26marson Kova from her Florida driver's license photograph. I made
- 11:31no contact with marson Kova. While parked in the area,
- 11:35I also observed Epstein's GMCU con truck leave the property,
- 11:39as well as other vehicles arrive and park across the
- 11:42street from the property. The occupants of these vehicles appeared
- 11:46to be the housekeepers, maintenance men, and the gardeners. At
- 11:50nine thirty eight am, I met with Townupoon Beach sanitation
- 11:53employee Jesse Jones. I observed Jones entered the driveway of
- 11:58three fifty eight lbrio Way and collected trash from Epstein's property.
- 12:03I followed Jesse to a predetermined area, at which time
- 12:06I collected the trash bags from the sanitation truck. I
- 12:10transported the trash bags to the sanitation department, where I
- 12:13sifted through its contents. I collected mail correspondence addressed to
- 12:17Jeffrey Epstein, automotive records and personal documents for Janus Banisik
- 12:23and Beta Banisik, as well as Jeffrey Epstein notepaper with
- 12:27the names and appointment times for redacted and redacted. No
- 12:31last names or other personal information was written on the
- 12:34note paper. While sifting through Epstein's trash, I also collected
- 12:38a three inch purple finger sized object which had a
- 12:41broken end. The object appeared to be a broke piece
- 12:44from a sexual toy similar to a cyclone vibrator, possibly
- 12:49used for rectal gratification. The sexual object was photographed for
- 12:53Detective Pagan, packaged in a biohazard evidence bag, possible body fluids,
- 12:58and secured in an invent investigative evidence. All items collected
- 13:02from Epstein's trash were turned over to Detective Pagan for
- 13:06evidentiary purposes. On April fifth, two thousand and five, at
- 13:11nine to eighteen am, I met with Town of Palm
- 13:14Beach sanitation employee Jesse Jones. I observe Jones enter the
- 13:18driveway of three fifty eight Elbrio Way and collect the
- 13:21trash from Epstein's property. I followed Jesse to a predetermined area,
- 13:26at which time I collected the trash bags from the
- 13:29sanitation truck. I transported the trash bags to the sanitation department,
- 13:34where I sifted through its contents. I collected mail correspondence
- 13:38addressed to Jeffrey Epstein, as well as notepaper, important message
- 13:42with names and telephone numbers. The following are items collected
- 13:46from Epstein's trash redacted, blank piece of white paper redacted,
- 13:51black paper redacted, black paper redacted, David redacted, MSN hotmail
- 13:57web page with the email address redacted. The following items
- 14:01were documented for Detective Pagan and her investigation for evidentiary purposes.
- 14:07On April sixth, eight eleven, twelve, thirteen, fifteen of two
- 14:12thousand and five, at approximately nine thirty am, I met
- 14:15with Town of Palm Beach sanitation employees. I observed the
- 14:19employee enter the driveway of three fifty eight Elbrio Way
- 14:22and collect the trash from Epstein's property. I followed the
- 14:26employee to a predetermined area, at which time I collected
- 14:29the trash bags from the sanitation truck. I transported the
- 14:33trash bags to the sanitation department, where I sifted through
- 14:36its contents. All of the documents collected from Epstein's trash
- 14:40during my assistance were turned over to Detective Pagan for
- 14:44evidentiary purposes. On June fourteenth, two thousand and five, Detective
- 14:49Michelle Pegan contacted me and advised that the airplane belonging
- 14:53to Jeffrey Epstein of three pin fifty eight elbrio Way
- 14:56was parked at the Palm Beach International Airport. I Pegan
- 15:00requested that I begin trash pulls for the purpose of
- 15:03gathering evidence and intelligence. I made contact with the Town
- 15:07upon Beach Sanitation Office Supervisor Tony Higgins and requested trash
- 15:12pulls for three fifty eight lbrio Way to begin on
- 15:15June fifteenth, two thousand and five. On June fifteenth, two
- 15:19thousand and five, I met with a sanitation employee. I
- 15:23observed the employee enter the driveway of three fifty eight
- 15:26Elbrioway and collect the trash from Epstein's property. I followed
- 15:30the employee to a predetermined area, at which time I
- 15:34collected the trash bags from the sanitation truck. I transported
- 15:38the trash bags to the sanitation department, where I sifted
- 15:41through its contents. The trash yielded negative results and no
- 15:45evidence was collected. No further trash was collected throughout the
- 15:48week due to the fact that Epstein's security gates remained
- 15:51closed throughout the week. Therefore, the sanitation employees were unable
- 15:56to gain access onto the property for collection of the trash.
- 16:00All the evidence and intelligence gathered by this officer has
- 16:04been turned over to the detective Bureau and no further
- 16:07action has been taken by this officer. End of the supplement.
- 16:11All right, So we're going to wrap up this episode here,
- 16:13and in the next episode, we're going to pick up
- 16:15where we left off. All of the information that goes
- 16:18with this episode can be found in the description box.
- 16:22What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 16:26In this episode, we're picking right back up where we
- 16:28left off with a Palm Beach police report, and to
- 16:32do that, we're picking up once again with the narrative
- 16:36of Joseph Raccari. On October fourth, two thousand and five,
- 16:40I may telephone contact with redacted, who left several messages
- 16:44on voicemail. During the message, she advised she was not
- 16:47completely truthful when we met in person, but would like
- 16:50to speak with me to advise what had happened. She
- 16:53further advised she did not want to speak of this
- 16:55incident in front of her mother. At approximately fifteen forty
- 16:58eight pm, I'm made the telephone contact with redacted at redacted.
- 17:03During a tape recorded statement, Redacted stated the following. Approximately
- 17:08a year ago, when she was sixteen years of age,
- 17:10Robson took her over to Jeff's house twice. The first
- 17:13time she went, Hailey Robson drove her to the house.
- 17:18They entered through the kitchen area, where she was introduced
- 17:21to Sarah and Jeff. She was taken upstairs to a
- 17:24bedroom by Sarah, who set the room up with a
- 17:26massage bed and brought out the oils to use. Jeff
- 17:30then entered the room wearing a towel. He lay on
- 17:33the table and picked out a lotion for Redacted to
- 17:36rub on him. At one point during the massage, he
- 17:38tried to remove her shirt, at which point she became
- 17:41very upset and discontinued the massage. Both Redacted and Jeffrey
- 17:46had a verbal disagreement, at which time she left without
- 17:49being paid. She met with Hailey Robson, who was sitting
- 17:51in the kitchen and told her let's go redacted advice.
- 17:55She received no money for that day. Redacted also said
- 17:58that Hailey Robson had told her if she was uncomfortable
- 18:02with what was going on to let him know, and
- 18:04I'll stop. She knew that the more you do, the
- 18:06more you'll get paid. Several weeks later, Redacted advice, she
- 18:11agreed to be taken a second time by Hailey Robson.
- 18:14Once they arrived at the residence, Haley sat in the
- 18:17kitchen and Sarah took her upstairs to the master bedroom. Again.
- 18:21Sarah set up the room with the massage bed and
- 18:24brought out the oils to use. Jeff then entered the
- 18:27room wearing a towel. He lay on the table and
- 18:29picked out a lotion for redacted to rub on him.
- 18:32At one point during the massage, he tried to touch
- 18:35her buttocks. As Redacted was wearing tight jeans and had
- 18:38a tight belt on, Jeff was unable to touch her buttocks.
- 18:42Jeff then rolled onto his back. During the massage, he
- 18:44attempted to touch her breast. Redacted then became upset again
- 18:48and told him she didn't want to be touched. Redacted
- 18:51discontinued the massage and was paid two hundred dollars. Redacted
- 18:55then went downstairs, where Hailey Robson was waiting for her.
- 18:58She told Robson she wanted to leave Redacted said she
- 19:02never returned to the house. Redacted stated she is aware
- 19:05that her friend redacted was also at the house and
- 19:09had a problem with Jeff. She provided a telephone number
- 19:12four redacted. The interview was concluded and the micro cassettes
- 19:16were turned in as evidence. On October fifth, two thousand
- 19:19and five, I researched the incoming telephone number that had
- 19:22left Redacted a message. The telephone number redacted was assigned
- 19:26to AT and T Singular Cellular Service. I prepared a
- 19:30subpoena request and fax the request to the State Attorney's Office.
- 19:34Information requested was subscriber information as well as all incoming
- 19:39and outgoing calls for the month of September and October
- 19:43two thousand and five. I later researched redacted and discovered
- 19:48she resides in Royal Palm Beach. Detective Dawson and I
- 19:51drove to Royal Palm Beach and met with Redacted at
- 19:54a residence in Royal Palm Beach. Redacted agreed to speak
- 19:58with us in the kitchen area a sworn tape statement.
- 20:01Redacted stated the following on or about November two thousand
- 20:04and four, she was approached by Hailey Robson and asked
- 20:07if she wanted to make money. She agreed and was
- 20:11told she would provide a massage to a wealthy man
- 20:13in Palm Beach. Robson picked her up and drove her
- 20:17to a house in Palm Beach. She was brought into
- 20:19the kitchen area of the house. She further stated that
- 20:22Redacted and Redacted went with them. They were brought into
- 20:25the kitchen where she was introduced to Jeff and other females.
- 20:29Redacted stated that she was introduced to a helper of Jeff.
- 20:33The female was described as white female, unknown name, with
- 20:36blonde terror. She stated that the assistant was familiar with Robson.
- 20:40The assistant set up the massage table and put out
- 20:43lotions to be used. She told redacted Jeff would be
- 20:45available in a minute. Jeff entered the room wearing only
- 20:48a towel. Jeff lay on the massage table and picked
- 20:51up the lotion to rub his thighs and back. Redacted
- 20:54further stated that during the massage, Jeff ast her to
- 20:57remove her clothes. She complied and moved her pants and
- 21:00her blouse. Redacted didn't remember if she had removed her
- 21:04bra but feels like she did. Redacted with certain that
- 21:08she stayed in her thong underwear. Redacted continued the massage,
- 21:11and at one point she straddled them to massage's back,
- 21:14which touched his buttox with hers. Redacted was instructed to
- 21:19return to the ground, at which time Jeff turned to
- 21:22have his chest rubbed. Redacted advised it was at this
- 21:25time that she was sure he was masturbating. Redacted did
- 21:30not want to look at his penis area because she
- 21:32was uncomfortable. Jeff removed a large white vibrator and turned
- 21:36it on. Redacted stated he began rubbing the vibrator over
- 21:40her thong underwear on her vaginal area. Shortly thereafter, Jeff
- 21:44ejaculated and removed himself from the table. He walked over
- 21:48to where the shower was and opened the glass door.
- 21:51She waited as he was taking a shower in her
- 21:54direct view. When I asked Redacted how old she was
- 21:58when this occurred, she stated she had just turned seventeen.
- 22:01At the conclusion of the shower, Redacted was paid either
- 22:04three hundred and fifty or four hundred dollars. She stated
- 22:07she wasn't sure, but knows it was close to four hundred.
- 22:10At the conclusion of the interview, Redacted stated she never
- 22:14returned to provide a massage for Jeff. She advised she
- 22:17was ashamed and uncomfortable with the situation. Detective Dawson and
- 22:21I then left the area and responded to the redacted
- 22:24Redacted High School, where Robson and all the above mentioned
- 22:28girls had attended. I met with school police officer, Officer Williams.
- 22:32I explained that I was looking for a previous student
- 22:35who attended redacted High School. I inquired about Redacted. I
- 22:39further explained that I was working a case in which
- 22:41most of the girls I have interviewed are either witnesses
- 22:44or victims, and I felt that Redacted maybe one as well.
- 22:48Officer Williams researched his previous student records and found Redacted.
- 22:53She attended the same year and graduated in the same
- 22:55year as the other girls. I was provided the last
- 22:59known address of Redacted. At approximately two ten PM, Detective
- 23:03Dawson and I met with Redacted at her residence Redacted
- 23:07in Royal Palm Beach. As Redacted was only seventeen years
- 23:11of age, I had notified her mother Misredacted, that she
- 23:14would be interviewed in a reference an ongoing investigation in
- 23:18Palm Beach. I assured her that her daughter was not
- 23:20a suspect. I explained the possibility of her being either
- 23:24a witness or a victim misredacted advice. She wanted Redacted
- 23:28to cooperate, and Redacted stated the following. At the age
- 23:32of sixteen, during the month of September two thousand and four,
- 23:35she was approached by Hailey Robson for a chance to
- 23:37make some money. Redacted was friends with the friends of
- 23:41Robson and knew the same people. Redacted had previously been
- 23:46told by friends what and scheduled the employment. Robson picked
- 23:50Redacted up and drove her to Palm Beach to a
- 23:53street called Brio Way. They drove to the end of
- 23:55the street and entered a large driveway. They entered the
- 23:58kitchen area of the house and met with Jeff. Redacted
- 24:01was introduced to Jeff. Robson led Redacted upstairs to the
- 24:05main bedroom area and set the room with massage table
- 24:08and set out the oils. Robson dimmed the lights and
- 24:11turned on soft music. Robson exited the room and Jeff
- 24:15entered the room wearing only a towel. Jeff picked oils
- 24:18and instructed her to rub his legs under his buttocks
- 24:21back in chest area. Jeff asked her to get comfortable.
- 24:25Redacted advice she did not remove her clothes. She was
- 24:28wearing tight jeans and a crop tank top, exposing herbelly area.
- 24:32During the massage, Jeff removed his towel as Redacted rubbed
- 24:36his chest area. Jeff attempted to reach down her pants
- 24:39through the buttocks area, however, was enabled due to the
- 24:42tightness of the jeans and the tight belt. Redacted advised
- 24:46Jeff began to masturbate as she rubbed his chest. Jeff
- 24:49moaned as she rubbed his chest. She observed he was
- 24:52continuing to masturbate and attempted to reach up her tank
- 24:55top and touch her breasts. She pulled back and Jeff stopped. However,
- 24:59he came masturbating until he climaxed. He cleaned himself with
- 25:03the towel he was previously wearing. I asked redacted if
- 25:06she knew the difference between circumcised and not circumcised. She
- 25:10explained she knew and advised Jeff with circumcised. Redacted was
- 25:15paid two hundred dollars for the massage and left the area,
- 25:18she met with Robson, who was sitting in the kitchen,
- 25:21and they left the house. Redacted then explained she never
- 25:25provided another massage for Jeff. She did, however, go to
- 25:28the house with Robson and Redacted as they took another
- 25:31friend of Robson's. Redacted advised she was present when Redacted
- 25:36went to work for Jeff. She advised she rode over
- 25:39and sat in the kitchen area with Robson to wait
- 25:41for Redacted and Redacted advised that while they waited for
- 25:44Redacted at the house, the chef prepared lunch for them
- 25:48as it was almost lunchtime. As Redacted was finished with
- 25:51the massage, they left the area. I asked Redacted if
- 25:54Robson ever told what would be expected of her when
- 25:57she provided a massage. Redacted yes, Robson told her that
- 26:02a massage would be expected, possibly naked and possibly some
- 26:05touching involved. Redacted has no formal training in providing massages.
- 26:10Redacted spoke about a third and last time that she
- 26:13went to Jeff's house. Robson drove another girl redacted, who
- 26:17is Redacted's friend, to Jeff's house. Redacted stated she knew
- 26:20that Robson had made money providing girls for Jeff and
- 26:24she wanted to do the same. Robson took them to
- 26:27the kitchen area of the house and introduced them to Sarah.
- 26:30Robson and Sarah took Redacted upstairs to the main bedroom
- 26:34and Redacted advice she doesn't know what happened, as Redacted
- 26:37did not speak about what happened in the room. Redacted
- 26:41received one hundred dollars for Robson for going with her
- 26:43to Jeff's house and recommended Redacted was unable to remember
- 26:47a Redacted's telephone number. The interview was concluded and we
- 26:51left the area. On October sixth, two thousand and five,
- 26:54Detective Dawson and I went to Lynn University, located in
- 26:58Boco Ratan. We met with Dean of Students, Paul Turner.
- 27:02I explained to mister Turner that we were investigating a
- 27:05crime within the town of Palm Beach and felt that
- 27:08a student Redacted may have information. Turner confirmed that Redacted
- 27:12as a student and currently on the soccer team for
- 27:15Lynn University. She was in computer class at the time
- 27:19of our arrival. Turner sent a security guard to locate
- 27:22Redacted in class and bring her to the office mister
- 27:25Turner allowed us to interview her Redacted in an empty
- 27:28conference room at eleven forty five am. I met with
- 27:32redacted and explained to her why we were there to interviewer.
- 27:36She advised she was aware of the ongoing investigation, and
- 27:39Redacted stated that she had previously spoken with Redacted, who
- 27:43told her she was interviewed by detectives. During a sworn
- 27:47tape statement, Redacted stated she knew that Hayley Robson worked
- 27:50for Jeff and Palm Beach. Redacted advised she had been
- 27:53there many times for massages. I asked her if she
- 27:57had formal training in providing massages. Redacted stated that she
- 28:01did not. Redacted advised she was told what was expected
- 28:05of her by providing massages and would have to remove clothing,
- 28:08but if she felt uncomfortable, just to say so and
- 28:11Jeff would stop pushing the issue. Redacted began providing massages
- 28:15and advised she kept her clothes on. She considered Jeff
- 28:18a pervert who kept pushing to go further and further.
- 28:21Redacted explained she would keep telling him she had a
- 28:24boyfriend and that it would not be right to her boyfriend.
- 28:27It wasn't until recently, Redacted admitted to removing her clothes
- 28:30and staying in her thong underwear to provide a massage.
- 28:34Redacted explained Jeff wanted to be rubbed on his neck,
- 28:37and recently he began turning over to have her rub
- 28:40his chest As he masturbated. He would try to touch
- 28:43her breasts as she rubbed his chest. Redacted stated Jeff
- 28:46would try to get away with more and more each massage. Originally,
- 28:50Robson drove her to the house for the original massage.
- 28:53Redacted left Sarah her cell phone number, and every time
- 28:57Jeff would come into town, Sarah would call her for
- 28:59an employment. Each time she went, Sarah would meet her
- 29:02in the kitchen door area. She would bring her upstairs
- 29:05and prepare the massage table. Redacted advised that Jeff asked
- 29:10her questions about herself. He knew she was a soccer
- 29:13player and would be attending Lynn University. I asked redacted
- 29:17if he knew her real age. Redacted stated Jeff didn't care.
- 29:21The most recent massage she provided was on October first,
- 29:25two thousand and five. During the massage, she asked Jeff
- 29:28if she could borrow one of his vehicles to visit
- 29:31her family and boyfriend in Orlando. Jeff had told her
- 29:34she could borrow one of his vehicles, but later stated
- 29:37he would rent her a car. She continued with the massage,
- 29:41and Jeff grabbed her buttocks and caressed her buttocks cheeks.
- 29:45I asked if she was wearing undergarments, to which she
- 29:48replied thong underwear. Once he tried to touch her breast,
- 29:52she would pull away from him and he would stop.
- 29:55Redacted was asked if she ever used a vibrator on her.
- 29:59Redacted was aware of the vibrator, but advised she would
- 30:02never allow him to use a vibrator on her. She
- 30:05described the vibrator as a large white vibrator with a
- 30:09huge head on the tip of the vibrator. She stated
- 30:12he kept the vibrator in a closet near the massage table.
- 30:16Redacted advised she had been doing the massage for approximately
- 30:19two years, which meant she would have started doing massages
- 30:23for Jeff at the age of sixteen. Redacted stated she
- 30:27was contacted by Sarah on October third, two thousand and five.
- 30:31Sarah had informed her that Jeff had rented her a
- 30:33new Nissan Sentra and she should come by the house
- 30:36to pick it up Sarah informer redacted she would have
- 30:39the car for a month. Redacted stated Jeff knewer car
- 30:43was not working properly and had missed appointments in the
- 30:46past because her car being inoperable. Redacted explain the car
- 30:50is currently parked next to the gym field. I asked
- 30:53her if she ever took anyone to the house. Redacted
- 30:56explain she took redacted a friend of hers who has
- 31:00turned to Orlando to attend college. I asked if she
- 31:03ever allowed another female in the room. Redacted advised no
- 31:06one was brought into the room with her. At the
- 31:09conclusion of the interview, Detective Dawson and I went to
- 31:12the gym area and located the silver Nissan CenTra bearing
- 31:16Florida tag X ninety eight a PM. The vehicle is
- 31:19registered to Dollar rent a Car out of Palm Beach
- 31:22International Airport. Telephone contact was made with redacted, the victim's
- 31:26mother at redacted. I explained to her that I was
- 31:29following up on this case and provided a complete update
- 31:32on the case. The investigation continues. All right, folks, We're
- 31:36gonna wrap up right here and in the next episode
- 31:38we'll pick up where we left off. All of the
- 31:42information that goes with this episode can be found in
- 31:45the description box. What's up everyone, and welcome back to
- 31:48the Epstein Chronicles. This episode, we're picking right back up
- 31:52where we left off with a Palm Beach police report
- 31:56into Jeffrey Epstein and is disgusting degenerate behavior. Joseph Riccari
- 32:02is the one giving us the narrative in this section.
- 32:05Once again. On October tenth, two thousand and five, at
- 32:08approximately to thirty pm, I made telephone contact with Redacted.
- 32:13During a tape conversation, Redacted was told of an ongoing
- 32:16investigation in which I felt she had information pertaining to
- 32:20Jeffrey Epstein. Redacted explained she met Epstein when she was
- 32:24just sixteen years of age. She was approached by Redacted,
- 32:28a friend who had also previously gone to Epstein's house
- 32:31for massages. Redacted advice she was working at the Wellington
- 32:35Mall when she was approached. Redacted told her that she
- 32:38would have to provide a massage to Abstein and she
- 32:41would have to perform this massage naked. Redacted thought about
- 32:45the offer and stated she could make two hundred dollars
- 32:47for only thirty minutes of work. She agreed to perform
- 32:50the massage, and Redacted set the appointment for her that
- 32:53same day. Redacted remembered it was a weekend, as she
- 32:57was only worked at the mall on the weekends. Redacted
- 33:00took her to the house where she was introduced to Sarah,
- 33:03Jeff Epstein's assistant. Sarah took her upstairs to a master bedroom.
- 33:08Redacted explained that as she was walking up the stairs,
- 33:11she observed several photographs of naked women along the walls
- 33:14and tables up the house. Redacted further explain that she
- 33:18was brought into the bedroom where Sarah prepared the room
- 33:21by setting up the massage table and provided oils for
- 33:24her to rub on. Epstein. So where have we heard
- 33:27this story before? Huh? Sarah kelln Vickers once again setting
- 33:31things up, getting these girls all primed and ready to go. Meanwhile,
- 33:35Sarah Kelln Vickers is enjoying that jet setter's life while
- 33:38these girls are saddled with you know, problems for the
- 33:42rest of theirs. Epstein entered the room and introduced himself.
- 33:48Epstein lay on the table and told her to get comfortable.
- 33:51Redacted could not remember if he was naked or if
- 33:54he entered the room with a towel. Redacted stated she
- 33:58provided the massage wearing only hernies. She continued rubbing his legs, thighs,
- 34:02and feet. Redacted advised he turned her over onto his back.
- 34:07She continued to rub his legs with oils. Epstein touched
- 34:10her breast and began to masturbate. I asked Redacted if
- 34:13she knew what circumcised and uncircumcised meant. She stated, circumcised
- 34:17as one the penis has no foreskin and the head
- 34:20of the penis is visible. Redacted said Epstein is circumcised.
- 34:24Redacted began to cry on the telephone and stated she
- 34:27had been in his home hundreds of times over a
- 34:29two year period. She claimed to have made thousands of
- 34:32dollars during her visits. Redacted stated she could not remember
- 34:35how many times exactly she went to Epstein's home, but
- 34:39said it was a lot. Redacted became more upset, crying hysterically,
- 34:43and stated she was paid and instructed to have sex
- 34:47with Epstein's assistant, Nadia marson Kova by Epstein. Epstein continued
- 34:52to watch them have sex and masturbated himself as they
- 34:55had sex with each other. She further stated that things
- 34:58escalated further and firm Epstein used sexual toys such as vibrators,
- 35:03rubber penises, and strap on penises on Redacted. Additionally, Redacted
- 35:08stated he performed oral sex on her numerous times. She
- 35:11claimed he Epstein put his fingers inside her regina while
- 35:15he masturbated in an attempt to make her climax. Redacted
- 35:19could not continue and wanted to take some time to
- 35:22regain her composure. I explained or redacted to take her time.
- 35:26After taking several minutes to regain her composure, I explained
- 35:29that I would travel to meet with her in person,
- 35:31as I felt she had additional information to provide. I
- 35:35met with Sergeant Frick and explain the importance to meet
- 35:38with redacted in person. Sergeant Frick agreed and made arrangements
- 35:42for Detective Dawson and I to meet with her in Jacksonville, Florida.
- 35:47On October eleventh, two thousand and five, at four to
- 35:50ten pm. Detective Dawson and I met with redacted and
- 35:53her friend redacted at redacted in Jacksonville, Florida. Redacted wanted
- 35:58to have Redacted present for support. I explained to her
- 36:02that I did not have a problem as long as
- 36:04she wanted Redacted present during the interview. Redacted stated she
- 36:09wanted her present. I explained that as Redacted was present,
- 36:12she was not allowed to comment or ask any questions
- 36:15during the interview. She was only there to comfort should
- 36:18the interview upset her. During the sworn tape statement, Redacted
- 36:22explained how everything began. She said she was brought through
- 36:25the kitchen area, where she met Sarah for the first time.
- 36:29She was led to the master bedroom Epstein's room. Redacted
- 36:33explain that she was walking up the stairs, she observed
- 36:36several photographs of naked women along the walls and tables
- 36:39of the house. Redacted further explained that she was brought
- 36:43into the bedroom, where Sarah prepared the room by setting
- 36:46up the massage table and provided the oils for her
- 36:49to rub on Epstein. Redacted explained she remembered the steam
- 36:53room area, which contained two large showers. Epstein entered the
- 36:57room from the steam room area and introduced himself. Epstein
- 37:00lay on the table and told her to get comfortable.
- 37:03Redacted removed her skirt and kept her shirt on. She
- 37:06would not remember if she was naked or if she
- 37:09entered the room with a towel. Epstein then instructed her
- 37:12to remove her shirt. Redacted removed her shirt and remembered
- 37:16she was not wearing a bra. Redacted stated she provided
- 37:19the massage wearing only her pennies. She continued rubbing his legs,
- 37:23thighsand feet. Redacted advised he turned over onto his back.
- 37:28She continued to rub his legs with the oils. Epstein
- 37:31touched her breast and began to masturbate. Epstein ejaculated, which
- 37:35meant the massage was over. At the conclusion of the massage,
- 37:39Redacted was given two hundred dollars and they walked together
- 37:44downstairs where Sarah and Redacted were waiting. Redacted stated Redacted
- 37:49received an unknown amount of money for taking her to Epstein's.
- 37:52Epstein instructed to leave her cellular telephone number so that
- 37:55he could contact her when he's in town. Redacted explain
- 37:59that she continued to go to Epstein's house and became
- 38:02a regular at the house. She could not provide an
- 38:05exact number, but activities did not occur every time she
- 38:09was there. There were times she went to dinners and
- 38:12parties with Epstein. Redacted explain that things began to escalade
- 38:17more than the massage. The encounters include bringing in his assistant, Nadia.
- 38:21Marsenkova explained Epstein had purchased her from her family in Yugoslavia.
- 38:26Epstein bragged he brought her into the United States to
- 38:29be as Yugoslavian sex slave. Redacted advised he was naked
- 38:33in the bedroom. She entered and removed her clothing. Marsenkova
- 38:37entered the room from the steam room already naked. He
- 38:40instructed or redacted to perform oral sex on marsankovacted refused
- 38:45to perform that act. Epstein offered her an additional two
- 38:48hundred for her to perform oral sex on Marsenkova for
- 38:52five minutes. Redacted agreed to perform the oral sex for
- 38:55the additional two hundred. Redacted explain that Epstein would masturbate
- 38:59while he watch them perform sexual acts. So again with
- 39:03marsen Kova, you see it once again here in the documents.
- 39:06She was purchased as a child by Epstein. So how
- 39:09do we punish somebody like this. It's sort of like
- 39:12a moral dilemma, right, she has to have some sort
- 39:15of punishment, as you would think, But where does the
- 39:18line get drawn? Things continue to escalate by purchasing sex toys.
- 39:23Redacted stated she had massagers, vibrators, and strap on rubber
- 39:26penises used on her. Each time something new was introduced,
- 39:30additional monies were produced and offered for Redacted to allow
- 39:34the acts to happen. Redacted was adamant that she performed
- 39:38all these acts, but there were understandings with Epstein that
- 39:41no vaginal penetrations would occur with his penis. Redacted explain
- 39:46that Epstein's penis was deformed. Redacted explain that his penis
- 39:50was oval shaped. She claimed that Epstein's penis was erect.
- 39:53It was thick towards the bottom, but thin and small
- 39:56towards the head portion. She called it egg shaped, so
- 40:00when we call him egg dick, this is why. Redacted
- 40:03continued that the sexual encounters with Marsenkova, Epstein and her
- 40:07became a ritual. Redacted would arrive at the house and
- 40:11walk herself upstairs where Marsankova and Epstein were waiting. Redacted
- 40:15would remove her clothing and join them on the bed.
- 40:18Redacted explain Marsenkova and she would begin kissing and touching
- 40:22each other. Redacted explained sex toys were brought into the
- 40:26bed by either Epstein or Marsenkova, and they would begin
- 40:29using the toys on each other. Epstein would perform oral
- 40:32sex on either person, depending who was on top during
- 40:35the intercourse. Redacted 's explanation revealed they were in a
- 40:39missionary position. Redacted advised one day. Redacted was unable to
- 40:45state and exact date when this incident occurred. She came
- 40:49to the house after Sarah had informed her that Epstein
- 40:52had arrived. She arrived at the house and went upstairs
- 40:55to the master bedroom. Redacted advised she immediately removed her
- 40:59clothes clothing as Nadia, Marsenkova, and Epstein were already naked
- 41:04in the bedroom. Redacted explain that Nadia and she had
- 41:08a sexual encounter to include kissing, touching, and oral sex.
- 41:12Redacted or remembered that she climaxed and was removing herself
- 41:16from the massage table. Redacted asked for a sheet of
- 41:19paper and drew the massage table in the master bathroom
- 41:22and where Epstein, Marsenkova, and she were. Epstein turned to
- 41:25Redacted on her stomach on the massage bed and inserted
- 41:29his penis into her vagina. Redacted stated, Epstein began to
- 41:33pump his penis in her vagina. Redacted became upset over this.
- 41:37She said her head was being held against the bed
- 41:39forcibly as he continued to pump inside her. She screamed, though,
- 41:43and Epstein stopped. She told him that she did not
- 41:46want to have his penis inside her. Epstein apologized for
- 41:50his actions and subsequently paid her one thousand dollars for
- 41:53the visit. Additionally, shortly thereafter, Epstein gave redacted a two
- 41:58thousand and five Dodge Neon blew in color for her
- 42:00personal use. Redacted advice. There were times that she was
- 42:04so sore when she left Epstein's house. Redacted advised she
- 42:08was ripped torn in her vaginal area. Redacted advice she
- 42:12had difficulty walking to the car after leaving Epstein's house
- 42:15because she was so sore. Redacted advised that other than
- 42:19that one time when Epstein inserted his penis inside her vagina,
- 42:23there was no other penile intercourse. Redacted provided the names
- 42:27of girls that she knew of that had gone to
- 42:30Ebstein's house. Redacted provided the name of redacted and feels
- 42:34she still may be going to the house to massage Epstein.
- 42:38According to redacted, redacted is still sucking as dick. When
- 42:42asked if she had been recently contacted by anyone of
- 42:44the house, redacted advice she received an email from Sarah
- 42:48from redacted, which is her email account. The email was
- 42:53just a hello, how are you doing type of email.
- 42:55There had been no other contact from the house. The
- 42:58interview was concluded and Redact left the area. The tapes
- 43:01in drawing were submitted into evidence. The investigation continues. All right, folks,
- 43:06we're gonna wrap up right here, and in the next
- 43:08episode we'll pick up with the next section. All the
- 43:12information that goes with this episode can be found in
- 43:15the description box.