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Club 520 x Hennessy -Shawn Marion tells Jeff Teague stories of LeBron James, winning title with Dirk Nowitzki · Club 520 Podcast

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  Speaker 1: The volume.
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  Speaker 2: For Jeft DJ Wells.
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  Speaker 3: Clap it up for DJ Wells, Bishop b Hening and
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  Speaker 3: NBA champion Dallas Mavericks legend the Matrix Sean Marry and
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  Speaker 3: clap it up for him.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go, Hey and boy, you and tru like that.
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  Speaker 4: You need to come on this.
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  Speaker 1: Podcast going crazy. He started sweating after the turn up.
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  Speaker 1: You know what it is Club five twenty week in
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  Speaker 1: Dallas with it this weekend?
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  Speaker 4: How y'all wore man.
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  Speaker 5: Were from me Tonapolis, Indiana's three one seven day around
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  Speaker 5: our way we grabbed you know what I'm saying. Happy
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  Speaker 5: to be out here with y'all, cele braton doing it
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  Speaker 5: in with hen see Arena Walmo again. But like I said,
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  Speaker 5: it's Club five twenty podcast.
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  Speaker 4: I'm the host.
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  Speaker 1: My name is DJ Wells. We got a legend to
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  Speaker 1: my left. Special guests. You're gonna introduce my man's last
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  Speaker 1: ones to my far left.
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  Speaker 5: My dog Bishop be hearing out the Burley's green leaf.
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  Speaker 4: How you are nasty? Nasty? What's up? Dallas wasn't near
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  Speaker 4: every bad Let's go, yeah, a little matrix. I know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: I know your full game crazy, but have you ever
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  Speaker 5: seen the black forces with the white laces.
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  Speaker 4: That's how he was in Indianapolis.
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  Speaker 1: That's how he wouldn't you know.
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  Speaker 2: No, I ain't never seen those, but it's they cleaned all.
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  Speaker 4: Like out the gate now is clean.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, you know the black air forms went nasty.
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  Speaker 6: But you know everybody that's penitentiary chances right here, Hey,
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  Speaker 6: criminal Bob, he.
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  Speaker 1: Might not rob you, but he might scam you with
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  Speaker 1: the white las You know what I'm saying, My man,
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  Speaker 1: my bad.
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  Speaker 4: But to my right, my dog, young young team, how
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  Speaker 4: you would man?
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  Speaker 1: And I'm cooling bro in Dallas has been a good time.
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  Speaker 1: The Bobs was right. Hennessy got me right, y'all know
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  Speaker 1: how I get when I get that Hennessy, I get
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  Speaker 1: to sweat a little bit about bag of food in here.
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  Speaker 1: I don't do too much trying to renew this contract.
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  Speaker 1: But to my left, we got a legend, legend, legend legend.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all don't even notice. He's from the Midwest though, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: from the Midwest. But he made big noise down here
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  Speaker 1: in the city Dallas.
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  Speaker 5: Put a banner up. We got the matrix shine Mary
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  Speaker 5: in the building. Appreciate you pulling up, big dog.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm excited because I know y'all got some shit
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  Speaker 6: for me.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we definitely got a lot to talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: But first, you know what I'm saying, we always talked
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  Speaker 1: with the fullwear game. People who don't know this is
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  Speaker 1: sleep but you're a legend, especially with the footwear game
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  Speaker 1: and the Jordan pees.
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  Speaker 4: How did that come about?
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  Speaker 2: So look, you know it's an interesting story.
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  Speaker 6: So everybody me calling me about them damn shoes too
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  Speaker 6: though that Joe was like I need a pair of those,
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  Speaker 6: and everybody, I'm like, yo, I didn't even have a
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  Speaker 6: pair when everybody was asking me for a pair. Because
• 2:39
  Speaker 6: during my uh, I think it's my third year and
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  Speaker 6: I almost basically became a free agent shoe so like
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  Speaker 6: I was a shoe hall. So everybody was sending me kicks,
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  Speaker 6: and uh, I was gonna go with Jordan. A lot
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  Speaker 6: of people don't know this. I was gonna sign with
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  Speaker 6: Jordan initially, but Jordan's like, tricks, I give you no money.
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  Speaker 6: I was like, what, you would just give me the brand,
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  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, the shoes and stuff and
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  Speaker 6: everything in the Jordan umbrella. But I was like, shit,
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  Speaker 6: if I'm in the Nike I'm getting it anyway, right,
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  Speaker 6: He's like, yeah, it's I was like, and they gonna
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  Speaker 6: pay me.
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  Speaker 2: So I was like, I'm going there. I'm going Team Nike.
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  Speaker 4: Now I get that shape.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But he made me.
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  Speaker 4: He was making me.
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  Speaker 6: He was sending me Jeordians throughout the year when I
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  Speaker 6: was deciding on what team I want brand I want
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  Speaker 6: to go with. So he ended up sending me a
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  Speaker 6: shipment of the PE five's and they got lumped in
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  Speaker 6: with everything else. And what happened was during that process,
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  Speaker 6: I was getting so many shoes and I was wearing
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  Speaker 6: I was wearing twelves a lot at the time. So
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  Speaker 6: they came the customers came in, but I never received
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  Speaker 6: them because I was wearing a new pair of shoes
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  Speaker 6: every game. So with so many that came in, they
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  Speaker 6: got lumped in. And then I was moving around and
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  Speaker 6: doing so much and went to Nike and they they
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  Speaker 6: had made me a custom pair of Pees, but PJ.
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  Speaker 6: Tucker got them because he went into the vault. So
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  Speaker 6: a lot of teams don't people don't notice. A lot
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  Speaker 6: of teams have a locker room full of just shoes
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  Speaker 6: and all the guys played through.
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  Speaker 2: Now, typically if you if.
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  Speaker 6: You're with whoever brand you are, they sing you some
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  Speaker 6: shoes home with you doing the summertime, you know, but
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  Speaker 6: they always keep a stock for you, you know what
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  Speaker 6: I'm saying, if you with the long ten year old guy.
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  Speaker 6: So they got lumped in. He went through there rummaging
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  Speaker 6: and found two pair. Of course he did so, so
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  Speaker 6: it was even better than that. Though it's fucked up
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  Speaker 6: because he got him out, so I never got him.
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  Speaker 6: So so now now hold on, I never received them.
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  Speaker 6: But I do have a locker here at my house
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  Speaker 6: that I haven't really been through all the sneakers, so
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  Speaker 6: I could have some at the house, but dude, I
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  Speaker 6: ain't trying to go in that mess right now.
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  Speaker 2: So but I don't have none.
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  Speaker 6: But then now you hit a few pair at the
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  Speaker 6: facility this summer booker was there working out, went to
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  Speaker 6: the campus, you know, finishing up his funnel stuff for
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  Speaker 6: his shoe, and he found a pair in the locker room,
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  Speaker 6: you know, in the Nike locker, and you know, we
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  Speaker 6: were the same side of shoes. So he grabbed him
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  Speaker 6: and then he worked out with him and posted to
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  Speaker 6: send me a video been working out of him in
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  Speaker 6: LA And then I was like, yo, how you got here?
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  Speaker 6: And I still ain't got here yet. So then he
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  Speaker 6: was like okay whatever. So then he was like yo,
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  Speaker 6: of course he wanted me to be in his Nike
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  Speaker 6: commercials that came out and then end up wearing them
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  Speaker 6: the night of the Jersey retirement he won. He don't
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  Speaker 6: even want them twice and then he gave him to
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  Speaker 6: me because I don't have a pair as I know
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  Speaker 6: of right now. So that's the only pair I have
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  Speaker 6: that he gave to me because he got him from
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  Speaker 6: Nike this summer.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 7: I want to ask you, how in the hell did
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  Speaker 7: you end up at Vincent's university?
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  Speaker 2: Bro We from Indiana, Trail Blazer's baby all day.
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  Speaker 6: So, so when I was coming out of high school,
• 5:37
  Speaker 6: right you know, me and my boys talking about yesterday
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  Speaker 6: and like I didn't pass the ACT score back then.
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  Speaker 6: You remember it was ACT n SAT. So I was
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  Speaker 6: one point short. I had a GPA, I had like
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  Speaker 6: a beat. I was always been a smart so I
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  Speaker 6: just for one point, I missed one big part on
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  Speaker 6: that test. I was one point short, and I didn't
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  Speaker 6: want to wait another another another half a year to
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  Speaker 6: take the test again. So I decided. I was like,
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  Speaker 6: fuck it, I'm I'm want to I need to get
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  Speaker 6: out of here. I need to go play ball. So
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  Speaker 6: then I visited Vinceon's now visits in Northwest Mississippi junior colleges,
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  Speaker 6: and I was like, Let'm gonna go. Once I went
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  Speaker 6: to VU, the campus, it was it was a no brainer,
• 6:13
  Speaker 6: and the coach was like, yo, whatever you need and
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  Speaker 6: whatever you want you got here.
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  Speaker 2: So locked in and that was. That was two of
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  Speaker 2: my best years I've ever had.
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  Speaker 6: Playing though, when we did everything and they lived a
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  Speaker 6: red carpet out for me, it was dope for sure.
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  Speaker 7: We used to go down there and party and I
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  Speaker 7: used to see your name on the bedroom. I'm like,
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  Speaker 7: ain't no fucking way.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, listen part I'm married from thirty eighth.
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  Speaker 6: Gotta be from the ghetto, man. You know this has
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  Speaker 6: got so much history though, you know, Yeah, legends went
• 6:45
  Speaker 6: through there. Bob mcadeal, Eric Williams and Tyrone Nasby, some guys,
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  Speaker 6: lot of guys that played the pro. They had great
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  Speaker 6: careers there. You know, I think I was the best one,
• 6:52
  Speaker 6: but you know, by far, it is what it is.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I don't I'm a spacfectual. Guy.
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  Speaker 2: I don't lie me too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, it was all conference two years in
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  Speaker 1: a row. Baby, Oh yeah yeah male. Soon after the
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  Speaker 1: year as well too, though a lot of studying the
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  Speaker 1: Vince Hands up. He didn't know about the Vince hands
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  Speaker 1: parties legendary.
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  Speaker 2: Oh they were.
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  Speaker 6: I ain't gonna even lie to. They did some shipped
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  Speaker 6: there that a lot of the Division one schools don't do.
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  Speaker 6: It was it was some dope walky talkie type ship.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they got looking at.
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  Speaker 1: Walking.
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  Speaker 6: They got they got the walking talking here, so they
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  Speaker 6: gotta look out guys.
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: Man, it was it was late.
• 7:29
  Speaker 5: Tell them about when you went to didy House. Oh shine,
• 7:35
  Speaker 5: no entertained. That's what other podcast.
• 7:39
  Speaker 4: We ain't at the cruise.
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say something.
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: On this chill sorry, Oh my god, they got a
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: different walking talking to that party.
• 7:48
  Speaker 4: Don't do that. This is about Mary.
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: I don't want to after this.
• 7:57
  Speaker 4: Back back.
• 7:59
  Speaker 5: But obviously you transfer to UNLV. How was that process like?
• 8:04
  Speaker 5: Because I know everybody in the world wanted you coming
• 8:06
  Speaker 5: out as a ju call American. Obviously the way you played.
• 8:09
  Speaker 5: You went to the school that really fit the way
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  Speaker 5: you played basketball.
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  Speaker 6: So look, so my dream school was North Carolina. Dude,
• 8:15
  Speaker 6: I was gonna be a tar Hill. I was like,
• 8:16
  Speaker 6: that's all I fucked with in MJ Man, you know
• 8:19
  Speaker 6: more than I say, so I was. Actually, they had
• 8:23
  Speaker 6: one scholarship available and Bob mcadoo's only guy that came
• 8:26
  Speaker 6: from North Carolina. They recruited from Jimmy College. So Dean Smith,
• 8:30
  Speaker 6: that's one guy. Ever, so I was gonna be the
• 8:31
  Speaker 6: second guy. Dean Smith told me, henna have a scholarship available.
• 8:35
  Speaker 6: It's a crazy story too. He had because he had
• 8:37
  Speaker 6: one scholarship become available and it's yours if you wanted.
• 8:40
  Speaker 6: My coach came to me was like, Yo, it's yours
• 8:42
  Speaker 6: if you want it. I was like, for real, Oh shit,
• 8:45
  Speaker 6: I don't say no more, say less. So get through
• 8:49
  Speaker 6: the year. Some shit happened or whatever, and I guess
• 8:53
  Speaker 6: he ended up getting sick or whatever he had to retire.
• 8:56
  Speaker 6: So that kind of put that on hold because I
• 8:59
  Speaker 6: wanted to go play for Dean Smith. You know what
• 9:00
  Speaker 6: I'm saying. That's the legend of myth, the all the
• 9:04
  Speaker 6: history everything there, So I want to go play with him.
• 9:06
  Speaker 6: And then it just didn't happened. So I was like Okay,
• 9:08
  Speaker 6: now I'm not going North Carolina, so now I need
• 9:10
  Speaker 6: to go somewhere warm. Beating this dem code. That's so
• 9:13
  Speaker 6: in the end, that was a motherfucker being their crib. Yeah,
• 9:16
  Speaker 6: it was different beasts down there. So I put all
• 9:19
  Speaker 6: my energy towards the West Coast. So I was like,
• 9:21
  Speaker 6: you know, USC was hounding me UNLV. So I went
• 9:25
  Speaker 6: and visited both of those places, and I was like,
• 9:28
  Speaker 6: I felt more comfortable, more at home with the rebels.
• 9:30
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 9:31
  Speaker 6: And uh, you know my guy, coach Glenn Sippery and
• 9:33
  Speaker 6: my guy man, it's my guy to this day.
• 9:35
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: You know, he was like, yo, come down here' gonna
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: take care of you. So hey, I went out there and.
• 9:40
  Speaker 4: What do you mean that? Huh? Oh I got back Okay,
• 9:45
  Speaker 4: just making sure stop playing that game.
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: It wasn't legal then, you know what I'm saying.
• 9:51
  Speaker 4: Oh was it Vegas? It was legal.
• 9:52
  Speaker 6: Everything goes out there. You know the stories you hear
• 9:55
  Speaker 6: about the rebels back in the day.
• 9:56
  Speaker 4: With that ship was true.
• 9:59
  Speaker 6: All that ship with Stacey. Doc had his own business.
• 10:01
  Speaker 6: Them guys used to walk in the mall. He used
• 10:02
  Speaker 6: to give them bags and anything they going. Man, it
• 10:04
  Speaker 6: was real that man Vegas is one stop shop.
• 10:06
  Speaker 4: Kid.
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: Everything goes out there, man, and uh I loved it
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: out there. It was one. It was just one, one
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  Speaker 2: step in phase onto the next one.
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  Speaker 4: You should never went to way you should have with
• 10:14
  Speaker 4: the U n LV, I'm a chip.
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  Speaker 8: You got a legendary Vegas story. We gonna relax for
• 10:26
  Speaker 8: the company, y'all. On to the ninety nine NBA draft.
• 10:31
  Speaker 8: With the night ninety nine draft, I was this man
• 10:34
  Speaker 8: going to the league. How was that process? I mean
• 10:37
  Speaker 8: it was dream from true.
• 10:39
  Speaker 6: I think you know, when you when you set out
• 10:41
  Speaker 6: to do certain things and being exposed to being around
• 10:45
  Speaker 6: guys in the league and stuff like like young games man,
• 10:47
  Speaker 6: you create the appetite and a lot of people don't
• 10:50
  Speaker 6: have a lot of drive. You know, it takes it
• 10:52
  Speaker 6: takes a lot of sacrifice and a lot of a
• 10:55
  Speaker 6: lot of discipline to be successful at this game.
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: I don't think people really to.
• 10:59
  Speaker 6: Understand that, like a lot of people, takes a lot
• 11:00
  Speaker 6: of things for granted, you know, I've been truly blessed
• 11:02
  Speaker 6: to play this game a long time and give it.
• 11:04
  Speaker 6: I think what the identity I was a big part
• 11:06
  Speaker 6: of what the identity of the league is right now,
• 11:08
  Speaker 6: if you know anything about basketball.
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: That's that's just is what it is.
• 11:12
  Speaker 6: First, got to go small to make a team, transition
• 11:15
  Speaker 6: to playing gods out of normal positions. So well, but
• 11:18
  Speaker 6: my mindset, it's totally. Man, I'm a a dog, you know. Uh,
• 11:23
  Speaker 6: you know one of the things I prided myself though.
• 11:25
  Speaker 6: When I step on that floor, you just gonna get
• 11:26
  Speaker 6: it every every auncing energy and every effort you can
• 11:29
  Speaker 6: possibly get from me. And if you don't anything about
• 11:31
  Speaker 6: the game, you know I did that. I'm retired. I
• 11:33
  Speaker 6: can do what the hell they put the plan in
• 11:35
  Speaker 6: front of her. I'm grown, I'm retired.
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: Ship.
• 11:38
  Speaker 4: They're resourceful, man, I enjoy life, creative, I enjoyment.
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: You rejoin retirement right now.
• 11:45
  Speaker 4: Clout with these dudes every day.
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: Man, it's fun man, and I get to go on
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: Hennessy tours and enjoy new people and experious new things.
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: Is all good.
• 11:54
  Speaker 6: No, I'm serious, Like when I when I when I
• 11:57
  Speaker 6: ask that question, I mean like you're saying that. But
• 12:00
  Speaker 6: like a lot of people don't enjoy it. Like the
• 12:02
  Speaker 6: transition for most guys, it's harder than you think.
• 12:05
  Speaker 4: No, it was.
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: The first week was hard, and then after week two
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: we did a podcast, I was straight, oh, okay, okay,
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: got something to feel that void already.
• 12:13
  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 6: No, But like you, I'm the vice president of Retired
• 12:16
  Speaker 6: Player Association, So I'm gonna shout out to all my
• 12:18
  Speaker 6: OG's that paid the way for us, because I think
• 12:20
  Speaker 6: they don't get enough attention and enough flowers because we
• 12:23
  Speaker 6: don't talk about them. I know, everybody is more call
• 12:25
  Speaker 6: up and the more current and what's going on right
• 12:27
  Speaker 6: now with the current guys and shit, but the guys
• 12:29
  Speaker 6: that lay that foundation for us, they don't get their flowers,
• 12:32
  Speaker 6: and they deserve it hands down. Like every time I
• 12:34
  Speaker 6: see the OG I'm all like, thank you, thank you,
• 12:37
  Speaker 6: thank you, And like, man, you don't realize the sacrifice
• 12:41
  Speaker 6: they did for us to make it how easy and
• 12:43
  Speaker 6: ours was kind of easy. They really got it easy now, Like,
• 12:47
  Speaker 6: can you imagine.
• 12:47
  Speaker 4: Playing right now?
• 12:48
  Speaker 6: Dude?
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  Speaker 2: Is the ship that they got right now? Dude, I'm
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: playing twenty five years easy. Best.
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed talking to the retired players or older players
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: because we play how much to them, you know, let
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: them know that we appreciate and that's why we happy.
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  Speaker 1: Is hell to have you on the podcast, Like when
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: we see you in the comments, we all like, damn,
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: you see John Mary Matrix on there, so we all excited, bro,
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: because we really want to show y'all love, so we
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: try to get more retired players.
• 13:10
  Speaker 4: The older players appreciate that doing with the current players,
• 13:13
  Speaker 4: but it was a lot more fun.
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  Speaker 2: I respect that, man. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 2: It's man.
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: Especially, like you said, like y'all Phoenix team you especially
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: like changed the way basketball was playing that time period
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  Speaker 1: because I was the first really team to kind of
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: go small ball, which I really wasn't small, but obviously
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: you playing a big position, you could rebound, you could
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: do everything.
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  Speaker 4: But it made everybody else adjusted that and especially.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: When y'all had it, when y'all had cute Rich, when
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: y'all had young Joe John come on, man.
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  Speaker 6: So a lot of people forget that, you know, when
• 13:43
  Speaker 6: they talk about seven seconds or less and they talk
• 13:45
  Speaker 6: about the team, they don't even that that first year
• 13:48
  Speaker 6: it was fucking it was crazy. And but like when
• 13:51
  Speaker 6: everybody's referencing, I asked him, what year are you talking
• 13:53
  Speaker 6: about though, because you have to defund it because that
• 13:55
  Speaker 6: year that we only played together one year that started
• 13:58
  Speaker 6: in five, So there's so much to go into that,
• 14:01
  Speaker 6: and there's so many conversations, and I know the media
• 14:04
  Speaker 6: gray at creating these narratives and everybody soak it up
• 14:06
  Speaker 6: and eat it up, like man, But it was there's
• 14:08
  Speaker 6: so much other shit going behind the scenes and so
• 14:11
  Speaker 6: many feelings you have in locker room that came on
• 14:14
  Speaker 6: me to really truly express and understand it, you know,
• 14:16
  Speaker 6: especially when you got that mindset of what you're trying
• 14:18
  Speaker 6: to accomplish.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: It and you see it there, you know, I think, uh,
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: you know, uh.
• 14:22
  Speaker 6: Mental toughness is one of the things that I think
• 14:24
  Speaker 6: a lot of a lot of guys in this league
• 14:26
  Speaker 6: right now don't have right now. Like no, listen, we
• 14:29
  Speaker 6: got some telling of guys in the NBA right now,
• 14:31
  Speaker 6: and I love the diversity, and I love the magnitude
• 14:35
  Speaker 6: of some of these guys are the things that they've
• 14:37
  Speaker 6: been able to do on the floor. But man, this
• 14:38
  Speaker 6: right here, like that mental toughness to fight through certain
• 14:42
  Speaker 6: certain things from that court at that time. Man, you
• 14:44
  Speaker 6: can see when mental fatigue is a big part of
• 14:46
  Speaker 6: the game, that people just automatically give in. And that's
• 14:49
  Speaker 6: the one thing I loved about all the older guys, man,
• 14:52
  Speaker 6: you know, use whether they were scoring or not, you
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: just gonna get their hundred percent effort. Though they knew
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: when they stepped in that court when people played me,
• 14:59
  Speaker 6: they knew then when they hit to lace their motherfucking
• 15:01
  Speaker 6: shoes up.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Now they gonna get ran to the fucking gym.
• 15:03
  Speaker 6: And it was just that I was gonnabarrass your ass
• 15:05
  Speaker 6: out here, whether it be just stopping you or I'm
• 15:08
  Speaker 6: gonna give you thirty points the other end. So that's
• 15:10
  Speaker 6: the thing that that's the mentality I have because I
• 15:12
  Speaker 6: you know, I just feel like, like, why are you
• 15:14
  Speaker 6: not competing?
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: Though? And I see it.
• 15:16
  Speaker 6: That's why that'st of the reason I can't coach. I
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: know when motherfuckers ain't playing hard, Like I'm coming straight
• 15:22
  Speaker 6: at your heart though, and it sucks, it eats at me.
• 15:25
  Speaker 6: I'm like, yo, Dale, you can play harder than that.
• 15:27
  Speaker 6: We got so many versatile and dynamic players in this
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: league and in the game, and it's instead of getting there,
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: it's getting younger and younger. Of course, but like, man,
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: what happened to just like yo, I'm locking your ass
• 15:38
  Speaker 6: up there. We can we can be boys and drink afterwards,
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: but we get on this court, you ain't.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: You're my enemy. Right now. It ain't gonna be no
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: laughing and joke. I'm gonna bust your motherfucking ass.
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: Do you feel like social media and like players being
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: so involved with their brands off the court plays a
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: big deal into that.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: So personally, listen, sometimes I feel like some of the guys.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying all the guys.
• 16:00
  Speaker 6: There are some, definitely some great players in the NBA
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: that love and pride themselves in this game and dedicate themselves,
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: but it's a lot of guys who think about social
• 16:07
  Speaker 6: media first in the game and everything else come letter.
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: That's real, like their approaches for social media versus the game,
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: wrapping to your love and your passion for the game
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: first and then everything else comes later. That's when you
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: see it, and you see the certain guys I ain't listen,
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: I'm not telling you something that's not obvious.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Is right in your face. It's up there everybody else
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: to choose they want to see that. Now that's real?
• 16:29
  Speaker 7: Is that Phoenix Sun's team though, that y'all that you
• 16:31
  Speaker 7: played one year with the most talented team you think
• 16:33
  Speaker 7: you ever played on, because.
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: Y'all had a motherfucking we was We was tough, but man,
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: you remember I played them twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen. Uh
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: it was Kyrie Bron j R. Smith, Amon Shepherd, Kevin Love,
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: I mean, Mike Miller.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Uh, Brendan Haywood. We had we had a will live matrix.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: I'm taking that Phoenix team over that squad. So I'm
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: telling you the depth though. I'm on both teams, so
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I understand that show.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Ain't I'm gonna take that Cass team and Bron, Bro,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: what were you talking about?
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: So you know what though?
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: If I'm on that team though, and.
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: It depends on if I'm starting or not, if I'm
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: if I'm in my role transitioning out, okay, yeah, but
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: if I'm playing, so.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: You locked up, Bron, that's how you kind of.
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: I'm on a team though, so no, no, no, So
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: I'm on that So if I'm if I'm starting, I
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: started to season off that you're starting to to guard,
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: which is crazy, but I love it, I respect it.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: I can do it all.
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: No, but if I'm starting on that team, uh, that
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: that Cleveland team. But if I'm not starting, doing on
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: my way out? Oh, Phoenix were rocking, We're kicking, were
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: coming hard.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: I'm hard.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I want to get off there. I want to ask
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: you one question, bro. Growing up, when I was little,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I used to shoot from down here. How the hell
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: did your ship stay there? You became grown first of all,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: ain't that long? You should get out of pocket, get
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: on this head. You know what I'm saying. I used
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: to be like on the game and never time your shot. Hey,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: it's cool, broy, you made it.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Hey, so let me ask you a question. Though they
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: need two people in the league to shoot the same
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know. No, no, you don't.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: So so it's funny because I used to like when
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: I played though you know what, you know, what's really
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: really really fucked. When I played, this is really messed up.
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: They used to pay more attention to my shot than
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: when I was doing the floor You and him talking
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: about no, no, no, nobody's no job morants to anybody.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: Even so, even look at look at the Splash brothers.
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: The best shooter is the NBA history right now, don't
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: they don't shoot nowhere?
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Do they?
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: No?
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Not even close.
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: So so with that being said, though, when I was like,
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: when I was playing, this is why a lot of times,
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: a lot of guys they feel like it could because
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: everybody was labeling me underrated my whole career. I was
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: underrated town all this other stuff, and it got to
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: the point where it was come of eating up and
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: I'm like, why am I underrated? I'm doing shit out
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: here at six seven? That most seven for this is
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: not doing in the league. You ain't getting twenty and
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: ten and two blocks and two stills. He's not doing it,
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: you know. So so so so when I sit here
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: and you asked me that question, I was like, are
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: you trying to defer that to something, get someone else
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: the credit or verse not give me my flowers or no,
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: no no, we got to figure out no, so doing
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: that that's what they did, you kid. I'm talking about.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: The form is what it is.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: I just know what you're saying. Is it like when
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: you were younger, you just always.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: Shot because no, dude, I just have a lower arts
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: and everybody else she was two in.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I mean she was one in, just like everybody else.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: That's all good. But we knew you was a killer.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: I know you a killer.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I obviously played against you, been a fan for years,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: but I was used to just think like damn, because
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: you know you you mimic people younger, dude, You mimic people.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: And I used to just wonder, like, then, what was that, Like,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: would you mimic somebody that was when you were younger?
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: How did it come about?
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: No, man, I broke my wrists and fingers everything, but like, no,
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: it's just natural, dude.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Then I just kept busting everybody ass with it.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: Now you're a part of some crazy NBA moments on
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: those two people prove. First, we're gonna start with that
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: three All Star game, man, one of the most orgonic
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: All Star games.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Of all time.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: Obviously the West got that win, but how was it
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: to just be in that environment because that was a
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: historic moment for the NBA, especially with Jordan's last All
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: Star games.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Just to be in that moment and to actually get
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: to play in that moment.
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: So I used to work when I was in Vincent's
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: I used to work Jordan camp, so so I was
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: in area. We got to it with some footage that
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: went viral last couple of years during during the COVID
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: of that pick up run like he had. He had
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: some amazing pick up runs during his camp. A lot
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: of people don't know that you know what I'm saying.
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: And when I tell you, uh, like you you will
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: she was there. You wish she was there. Everybody who
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: went there, who went to his camp came from like
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: either University of Arizona at the time, North Carolina. Uh,
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: the Dukes, the big the big time guys who you
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. They were looking forward to trying
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: to be you know, said Jordan or Team Nike and stuff.
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: So it was it was truly special. But man, you
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: know m J Man, Come on, man, we call him
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: Black Jesus Baby. You give the best of Jordan at
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: the runs. No, No, A couple of times I was
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: on his team, but you know we are like it's
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: a couple of Hollis and there everybody. But you know,
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: Jordan takes that shit serious. It Look when he played
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: pick up dude, he came, We worked out.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: It wasn't like we come in the ball were come
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: to work. We're not coming here just to create some content,
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: you know, to make everybody look good.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: The ship man, you go on these gyms right now,
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: you go back and closed gyms and see the runs
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: that we had to you'd be like, what the hell,
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: what were doing this? Ain't even nowhere near with the
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: man to the competition that these guys are playing in
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: there we do. It was fucking war out there, like
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: regular season or not. Dude, when we're working out, were
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: working out.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can tell by y'all all Star games speaking
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: like that start game, y'all playing so so man. We
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: was watching the highlights the other day before we prepared
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: for this and like to see how hard y'all was
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: playing compared to this year.
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: I was all over him in their last shot, and like, listen,
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: there's such things great defense, but such thing is better offense.
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: I win them situations though, man, Like he literally barely
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: got that off of my fingers. I was really trying
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: to his ass up. And you know we still want
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: Kobe got fouled by jam Hill Neill next point.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Kobe would trying to lose.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Nah.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: I respect them, No, we do.
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: This is for real, like Papa's like, Yo, Matrix, go
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: get them man, man, Yeah, like.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: You like they don't have. They had no sympathy, bro.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: He going out let go out on top?
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Man, No, no, because he wouldn't let y'all go out
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: on top.
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: He probably wouldn't want to know what they even The
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: best part of that weekend though, you know the best
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: part of that weekend Morole Carey singing the national.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Anthem that that Jordan dress. Talk about it, mercy. I
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: wish she's singing hero to me.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Boy.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now, shock boy, it's a little
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: shaky and everything.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: You're crazy.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: But next moment, man, all four Olympics. Man, that team
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: that I had a lot of talent.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: Obviously we know that out come with that, but how
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: was that entire experience? You know, I represent the country
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: and get to play with people in the lead that
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: you play and represent the country with.
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: So you know that was that was That was a
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: crazy year. There's a lot of ship that went on
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: a whole lot before we even left the country.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Here.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Man, it was a ship show.
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: Oh man, it's it's a lot of stuff and a
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: lot of stuff, a lot of stories that I came
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: out about certain things, and that ship was cap like,
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: that's the one thing I don't believe. I ain't gonna
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: finish here. A lot of you about no boys, they
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: don't need to. But so we uh, what happened that
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: first night we get there, We get to Florida, because
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: we all started in Jacksonville, Florida that year, and we
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: was hanging out and I was with Bubba Chuck.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Of course, Oh you know, Bulba.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: Chuck go.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Giving that, giving that twelve pack of heindekens, he's good
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: to go.
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: So if y'all know, w Bubba Chuck is ai so
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: uh so we all partying and getting it in and
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: then like it was the first call, first practice, and
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: it was a couple of guys like, I'm not even
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: from the people on boy, but a couple of guys.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I was like, ship, this is the first day. We
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: already fucking fucked up already.
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: So uh it's me of course, Steph almost on that team,
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: and Bubba Chuck that was our two backcourt, and then
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: Richard Jefferson's on that team, Lebron Carmelo, the young guys,
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: d Wade, all those guys.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: But man, when we left here, we we honestly felt
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: good about the trip. It started off pretty good. But
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: then man, Andre Miller and uh and Paul got into it.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Man, damn.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: So you think that's going one downhill?
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: Man, it was kind of going downhill already and it
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: was just a it was an interesting mix of guys.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I think it was.
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: It was a great talent wise team, but international player
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: is totally different and a lot of people don't understand it.
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: And you know, I think the months that you gotta
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: have when you're playing for your country, it's not the
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: same as you playing for your team. It's a big difference.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: You actually need to elevate. And we were so all
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: over the board though, man, and uh, you know, I
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: felt I felt bad for Larry Brown, Pop and all
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: them because everybody was young and a mixture of guys
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: and every guy's some guy's going this way, some guy's
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: going that way.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: It just I was just like, how were we gonna
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: make this work?
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: And it's like and it wasn't like every people didn't
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: really just like each other. It was just more just
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: like it's just an imbalance, that makes sense. And it
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: sucked that we fell short. I mean, we finished with
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: the bronze. No you know what I'm saying. You know
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: that last game I had to do it be he
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: man out there, shot out there, had the hell of
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: the game for us to pull some shit out.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: But yeah, just on the podium, yeah, I was like,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: we gotta get out of here with something for sure.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: But I mean, listen, everything game as easy as you
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: think it is, It's not easy for guys to go
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: play on the national team and you don't play every year.
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: That's why they changed the dynamic after that. After that year,
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: they start getting the guys together for two years at
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: least two three years together. They have the same cohesiveness.
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: Because you're playing against teams now where all these guys
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: have been playing together for ten years. They've been they've
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: been groomed, they've been groomed to beat us. Let's they
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: mindset and that they play a game and play a status.
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: We don't play. Our NBA game is more of injury
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: visual sport. When we play overseas. It's fundamentally in simple basketball.
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: They're not doing all the extra stuff. They just keeping
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: its simple. They and they, but they know each other.
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: We know each other from as a competitive standpoint, but
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: playing with each other it's a it's a it's a
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: time you got to actually make to each other, and
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: a trust and knowing.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: What he likes but he doesn't like. And it's so
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: many levels to it.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, and like you say, with that, the way that
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: they played basketball, and you've played with some of the
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: best international players ever, you know what I'm saying, playing
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: with Steve Nash and obviously playing with the one that
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: did numbers down in this city dirt, their approached to
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: the game and how they played like and man, I've
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: been the flashiest, but it was always productive and it
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: was always buckets.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: Was it a lot easier playing with a style of
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: player like that?
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: See, the team was different, my role was different. So
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: so one of the things I've been able to adjust
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: to I was just the team I have. I mean,
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: if you follow me, you know that. So like when
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: I got here, they need me to do everything that
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: everybody else gonna do. So so we had a great
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: shooting team, you know what I'm saying. So, but they
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: ain't nobody slashing and nobody just locking motherfuckers on the
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: defense and be doing the small other things. And and
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: that's that's how we com froment each other. When they
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: needed me to score our score, when they need me
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: to lock somebody up and lock them up, and it's
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: just oh I didn't need me to facilitate. I was
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: able to do that as well too. So it just
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: depends on what we need and who we who we
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: was playing. And I think that's That's the one thing
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: about the game at you don't see a lot, you
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: don't see a lot of everything.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: It's assistent.
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: The same thing now when you when you see the
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: real good teams, they're adjusted to different variations.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: On the court. And doing that game, you know those
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: that was the reason why we was able to win
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: that championship.
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: We knew, we knew, we knew how to hold people accountable,
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: and we knew how to adjust and we played to
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: the level of our our apartments. That's how good we were.
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: Like with't nobody beating us that you don't give a
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: fuck who we played? Uh, And it's just that sister
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: Chalon don't get enough credit either. Why was amazing? T
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: Hy and Brendan the the tannel between t Y and
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: Brendan Haywood. We had two seven footers that was meeting
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: you at the rim, Damn bro And like you know,
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: Tyson was a lot more verbal and aggressive than Brendan,
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: but Brendan was out there. He was just he was
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: sitting there waiting for you to get to the rim.
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: And like that's the thing. But you got guys locked
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: up on the perimeter. We locked in me j Shaun
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: Stevenson j kidd all of us, even Dirt, even Dirt
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: got his big ass down, was defending you know what
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: I'm saying. So like when you when you buy into
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: that that team concept, that's when you and you and
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: you challenging Mary, why you elevating each other, That's what
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: that's what it's about.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: And like you said, I mean the Miami he came
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: in Big three Super Towers a team.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: But you can tell the difference between the teams of
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: y'all with the mindset, the mental focus.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Obviously y'all be in vetered. Y'all was locked in.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: Wasn't nothing to go, y'all, and you could tell when
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: they got rid up, y'all was gonna take it like
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: Jason Terry getting tacked, like come on, Like y'all was
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: a different level locked in.
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: Man, listen, man, you go back and I h you don't.
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: You don't get a lot of time to reflect on
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: your career while you're playing, because you're living in it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: You're when you get time to really reflect on what
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: you did in your career and the things that you
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: did in this game and just look back and like,
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: holy shit, like it was a hell of run. And
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: that run right there, Oh my god. D Wade told
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: us to me after we won a championship. He's like,
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: and this, enjoy this moment, but you not don't really
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: know what you did until about a month later.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: He wasn't lying.
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: When all the dust and everything kind of that's calmed
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: down that summer, you know, I was doing all kind
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: of parties out here there. But uh, but when that
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: dust selled down, I got a chense to really reflect
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: on that run we did, dude, Man, that was a
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: hell of a fucking run.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: We beat some great teams, great team ship. The most deep.
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: The deepest team in the league that year, behind behind
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: us and Miami was Portland.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Woman had a lick.
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: People would be like, listen, do't let me grow on
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: the Lakers with defending champions.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they wasn't as deep as Portland.
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: Portland had ten guys dude that they that it literally
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: could be starting on all the teams, you know what
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: I'm saying. And Brendan roy was Kurt Kirk kind of
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: hurt at the time, but you still come back. But
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: he still had one good game that was like, you know,
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: kave you the flashes of what he could possibly do.
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: But we just we just kept rising to the challenge. Man,
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: and it's like, you know, once we got that, we
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: was locked in like that. Man, wasn't nobody stopping that ship?
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: What was that party?
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Like like winning in Miami then going to Live and
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: spending the big bag?
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: So what was that like?
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: So dude, it was lit.
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: You know, I think you know, Live was really kind
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: of kind of coming back a love at that time
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: was when we were first really back opening it up
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: and they was doing Sundays there. I mean, ship, dude,
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: we got nabbage. We turned it out keeping about that
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: big ass over extra magnum or whatever, that a thousand
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: dollars bottle whatever, Like I had two people pouring a
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: bottle poorn it. Man, Listen, you could just drip that
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: whole thing on me and it's all just drinking. And
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: it was just it was just I felt like it
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: was just doubtas it took overminded me that night and
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: we was there, everybody was locked in and it was
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: like a pause.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Everybody said, you can drimp that big thing on me.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I fuck what you made.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: But that was.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: I was waiting. So look, we've been scarce metal world
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: beat up a song.
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: Hey, I didn't want to fuck up your story, but
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: I was.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: Like, cut the fucking.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Pause, you know what.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I needed a drink, but's gotta be fired. Though, to
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: win the ship is celebrating somebody else's city as far.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I snug the NBA championship out right. It was
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: literally this many people at our party.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: No for any boy, when the kids, I said, there,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I gotta throw my own championship party.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: Damn throw a party.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: No.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I couldn't fall back to the brook Lopez walked in
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: with his jersey on. I said, damn, it's just being
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Brooke with no vibes in there for Brooks, with no
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: vibes for nobody. It was like everybody from the front office.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I was like, nah, I've seen the Dallas Mavericks win
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and I seen Sean Mary and getting the drink port
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: on them.
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: Did you know though, at the beginning of the year
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: that you had a chance though, I mean, I know
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: you always want to play the win, but.
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: So look, every team has aspirations to win championship every
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: year training camp come.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Every team has that goal that's coming in training camp.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: That's the focus.
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: But guess what, it's only about handful of those teams
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: actually gonna speak that into the existence. You know what
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: I'm saying, Reality in perceptions two different things.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Reality.
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: Most of these teams know they ain't gonna they ain't
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: gonna do shit. Now now the parody in the league
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: now today is totally different. But back then, though, listen,
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: this is how strong our team was. My cousin's not here.
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: We're sitting in my living room when I was living
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: in Preston Hollow at the time, and he was like,
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: he looked at our roster. He literally looked at our roster.
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: He was like, it's like, cuz, y're gonna win championship
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: this year. Y'all gonna do what y'all need to do.
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: Y'all win championship. I was like, you know what, shit,
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: cause you you kind of I believe you're you right,
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: I'm looking at this motherfucker like, yeah, I'm looking at
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: our roster because we ain't had training camp yet. So
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: we got some new guys that, you know, some older
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: guys who came in. But like, I'm like, you know
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: what you did, all right, we go out and do
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: what we need to do. We're gonna win this motherfucker.
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: So fast forward, training camp starts, we are in Orlando
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: playing them for preseason. So D Steve host hosted half
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: the team at the house and have a barbek with
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: the crib. He got atm in the.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Liver room and Ship. Yeah, so we there. He got
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: a guy tattoo.
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: Guy came over and we grilling and everybody's just chopping
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: him talking ship and Jeed was like, Yo.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: Let me get this.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go and get this motherfucking championship tattoo on
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: my arm. I'm like what. He's like, yeah, we winning
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: this bitch this year.
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: I was like, oh shit, okay, okay no. So he
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: literally got chapmanship, chatted on his arm, breaked it in there.
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: This preseason. We ain't I remember that. I didn't know
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: I know what that happened. I didn't know that was
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: pre season. We ain't played one game this season yet.
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: So I was like, oh shit, we locked in.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: Let's do this ship yet. I got you. Let's do this.
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: So we come up the gates rolling, you know, we
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: Korong go down within I think fifteen games. Tough one,
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: tough one, but like man, we we studied rolling and
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: everybody just locked in with each other. Man like of course,
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: you know the season is so long. I think we
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: finished what third or fourth that year, something like that
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: in the Western Conference. And uh, but it didn't matter
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: who we messed up with. We knew we we had
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: eighteen game winn the streets that season and you know
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: we we we.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Was doing it.
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: So the West has always been strong like that though
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: for the most part, for the longest of my career,
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: we everybody was who made postseason was winning fifty plus games.
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: So but anyway, we get through the year and we
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: and we play Portland that first round and man, I
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: tell you, we was locked in and we looked at
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: each other's eyes and it was a there was a
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: filling in the locker room, the whole, the whole, the
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: whole dynamic and whole culture in our environment.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: When you walked into that locker room, you knew that
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: we was on a mission.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: For sure.
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: You you got you would have felt that energy and
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: got that energy. And with galls of all the naysayers
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: and the media and ship, they kept talking. They picked
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: port they picked something. They picked Portland win that series.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: Ye are the favorites to pick the Lakers to win,
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: ok okay see to win.
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: They picked Miami win everything. I was like, I tell you,
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: the motherfuckers on no shit about basketball because we beat
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: the dog shit on everybody.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah I did, Yeah, I did.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: No facts.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: I got a question for you, and we got a
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: fan question. They wouldn't know if it's just true or not.
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Obviously we know what happened.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: You know they got about a phoenix.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Is it true there was a possibility that you could
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: have went to Boston?
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: Yes, oh, okay, yes, So doing that process. Right before
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: KG went, I was getting calls. So so you know,
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: this being the NBA, there's a lot of people calling
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: about accident about people that don't mean they up the trade.
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: It's part of the business, part of the game. So
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: like people can call in crob or anything like. And
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: they asked him it was calling Boston was calling like crazy,
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: and uh I was like, uh the ball is They
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: was like, Boston's calling about to Sean and we ain't
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: entertaining it.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Don't worry about You're not going anywhere.
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: I was like, Okay, that's enough, said, I'm not even
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: thinking about it, you know, And of course that stuff
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: end up making the trip on down to you here
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: and there.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: But like listen, it's part of the business. Get it,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: eat it, and then uh, they.
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: Treated for KG afterwards they figured out the KG they
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: I guess he agreed to it and that's when he
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: went and left, but I didn't. I wouldn't like I
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: would have entertained it, and I had to agree to it.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Before the show, we was talking about obviously I don't
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I love basketball, but I like to talk about the
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: other stuff. So we were talking about the cities you
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: played in, and I was like, Bro, you're a lucky man. Bro,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: you playing some fire cities you gouts Phoenix, Miami, Toronto, Dallas,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: just to name a few.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: Like what was your we in Dallas? On? Neverman? But
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: what what was your favorite city? Like?
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: So so honestly, man, all of them was different phases
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: of my career, like I was. My mind said, was
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: totally different every team I went to so uh but
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: you know what, man, it was it sucked being and
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: the team was losing.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: But I tell them all the time, So Toronto, you
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: should have been a rapping my boy. Come on, man,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I was trying to get in Toronto with all my heart, but.
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: You didn't want to pay them taxes though I would Texas, man,
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: Texas is crazy there.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: I was hoping I was on the minimum.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Man. Some see do as a motherfucker boy lord a mercy.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Remember this is right now, the real Matrix. Yeah, how
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: did you get that nickname though? The Knny Smith? This
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: is my Kimmy Smith. Yeah, first game ever, preseason? We uh,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: we're playing, so you didn't get a chance of playing
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: the forum.
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: No, I didn't play regular season, but my first year
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: was a last preseason tournament they had before they closed
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: it stable season. Staples Center open beginning of the season,
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: so we in there and they had a tournament preseason tournament.
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: It was me, it was Phoenix Lakers, of course I
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: think Sacramento a couple of another team in there.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: So every year he did it.
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: So first game ever, preseason, dude, I get a still
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: block and won all in like.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: A sequence, and Kenny smift' is like, oh my god,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: you see that, he's the Matrix.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: And that was it.
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: Everywhere I was going, everybody was calling me the Matrix.
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: And you know, Kenny Smith's always been the guy who
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: get everybody nicknames, and that's it. I became a household name.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: That's far getting nickname. Those first NBA games I gotta drink.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, we.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Ain't drink this one, bro, that's on you.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: That's watering that though lightly over there, got over the house.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Big Sean, and I will not be taking no drinks
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: from yours.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: That's oh no, that's crazy.
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: Obviously you still watch ball. Uh what young players you say,
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: you can see like remind you of yourself.
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: So you know, uh, you know doing the drift every
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: year they try to play young game. I'm company guys
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: to guys that played before them. You know, men, listen,
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: I don't I don't see nobody out there there.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: See.
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: I used to say Kawhi a little bit because he
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: I feel like he never got tired of the court.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: And he plays both enses of floor, you know.
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: But uh, you know, I just think, uh I was
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: a lot more athletic than and jumping and rebounding than
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: Kawhi is. But you know for this engine effort, you know,
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: versatile small forward that you know, it's like a little
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: bit of this, a little bit of that, you know
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: But you know, I just feel like I was, uh
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: one of a time, man. This is what it is.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like to me, like defensively, you were like Draymond.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: But offensively you were like your own type of person
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: because you can run picking rolls with the ball, or
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: you can set them slip out dunk, you can hit
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: the corner, three, you can shoot, you could attack off
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: the dribble, So you weren't nobody really played like you
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: on offense. Now, No, offensively, you were like Draymond because
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: you can go one through five. I remember when even
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: when you was in Cleveland, you were switching all the
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: boss greens.
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: So so you know, it's funny we talk about that,
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: we talk about the versatility defenders and stuff, and I
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: was like, you know, Draymond, and I think I love
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: his to nastally, love his energy, love his heart, but
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: I still think I'm always the way better defender than
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: he was. And the reason I say that is because
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: when I had to guard point guard point, when when
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: I actually guarded you, I guarded you for the whole game.
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: I didn't it wasn't no, no, no, a few minutes
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: here and there or trying to spread somebody.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: I guarded.
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: I locked in with you guys for the whole game,
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: and like most guys ain't doing that. So it's easy
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: for and it's way simpler for guys to do with
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: every possession and switch. Everybody switched now. But I mean
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: I can guard somebody for a quarter. It's easy to
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: do that, and let me guard that guy for the
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: whole game, though most guys is not doing it. I'm
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: the only person ever in NBA history to do that.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Only person.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Nobody guard No. One through five, not the whole game.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: That's a question. Yeah, obviously, you know what I'm saying.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: You guarded some of the best in the league. Who
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: is some of the people gave you, like the most
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: trouble so so.
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: Early in my career, one of one of my favorite
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: players was Jamal Masburn. He was a big body, small
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: forward that can handle the ball and just he was.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: He wasn't very athletic, but he was shifty and very
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: creative of getting his shot off.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Man, he had a you know what I'm saying game
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: to him that was so smooth man, you know.
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: Giving me a shout to Jamal man he was one
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: of my my guys helped me elevated, you know what
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: I'm saying. But at that time, you know, shoot, all
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: the small for us was pretty pretty talented.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Time.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I was like guard mellow Melo.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: That's a real still.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: So Carmelo Carlo was tough. I was already three years
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: in the league. I think I was.
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: I think I was three four years in the league
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: already when he came in. But man, he was, he
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  Speaker 6: was tough because you know, he was he was.
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  Speaker 2: He was man.
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  Speaker 6: He was trying to he was trying to score every
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: time he got the ball. Man like he ain't he
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: ain't believe in passing the rock. So you know, once
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: you got him, like, man, yo, we didn't go at
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: it for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think we should be talking about Hall of Fame.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Right ship, you know you're talking about Yeah, go ahead,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I think you should be a Hall of Famer, Like
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: with all the accolades you got, all the things you
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: did playing basketball, like from college on, I think you
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: got a Hall of Fame career of me personally.
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  Speaker 4: And shout out to the Phinney sounds retired and number.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, that's that's what's up. That's
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: what's that's the start.
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: You know, man, you know, I've been having this conversation
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: people asking me that a lot, and I thank you
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: because you know, at the end of the day, but
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: you're not the ones, you know, the ones who's picking.
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  Speaker 6: So like, a lot of things are not in your control,
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: but one of the things that y'are. And we all
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: cogree that though when you when you when you earn something,
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: you feel like you should get that reward, right versus
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: it's like nobody going somebody come in here, y'all doing
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: the job, and I'm gonna pay you when I feel
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: like it. That's the mentality was sometimes when things go
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: on and you know, one of the things, I've been
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: truly blessed, man, I take noneing for granted. I'm able
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: to do things that a lot of people will never
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: get the chance to do. You know, I'm seeing the
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: world and I don't take noneing for granted.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: And like.
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  Speaker 6: I'm okay, I know what I did to this game.
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. I know, I know exactly
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: what I'm punting. I left on this game, and who
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: I am. You know, I'm comfortable, man, And that's it.
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: A lot of a lot of that I can't control
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: with nobody else too. I only can control myself.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: So that your peers know that she was one of
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: them guys, man, So I wouldn't be surprised down the road.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: It happened for you, but your peers definitely know you, and.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Most importantly we know too, no doubt for show for show.
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  Speaker 1: And on that note, we will get about of here.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: Matrix. Appreciate you. Slide on this big.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Guy, love love Max the noise one time hen see arena.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, all right.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Before we get up out of here, were gonna have
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: a couple questions from the crowd.
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  Speaker 4: Ain't working, Mike check Questions from the crowd.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Questions, questions, Hey, Sean, Mary, who is the hardest person
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: you had the guard in the NBA?
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: The hardest person I ever had a guard in the
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: NBA was probably Shock No, no, no, seriously no, but
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: anybody who uh, anybody who was who's gonna be that?
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: Who was the mean guy who actually was a tough
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: guard man. It's just about me preparing and trying to
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: make it hard for him, hey Sean. Uh, when it
• 45:54
  Speaker 6: comes to free agency, is there when you're talking to
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: your agent, is there like a minimum.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: You will take or it's pretty mu up to you
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: what you want to do.
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: So so so look, I was never officially a free agent.
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: So when I came, when I came to Dallas.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: I was signed. It was a sign, sign and seal deal,
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: so I was under contract currently. It was a sign
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: and trade, so I couldn't. I didn't actually go out
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: and test the market. That's one thing I never did.
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: So everywhere I went, I typically was under contract. The
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: last year that I went and played in Cleveland do
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: it was between Cleveland and Indiana, And that's a year
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: Paul George broke his league and they needed they had
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: a they had a player exemption. They was gonna give
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: me whatever that was. I think it was five or
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: six million dollars or whatever. But at that at that
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: point in my career, I wanted to play for a
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: championship and I was like, withn't going up body unless
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: I saw myself being in position to win another championship
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: before I retire. And that's why the reason I went
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: to Cleveland. But free agency, man, Listen, it's a different
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: different it's a different thing.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: I didn't get a chance to really experience it like
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: a lot of guys did. But listen, I knew I
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: was coming here. Jay Kidd, Jeff Dirk, Cuban, all of
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: them called me like, yo, you you're that final piece,
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: we need to win a championship, and it was like, Yo,
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: we're gonna make this happen. I was like, hey, because
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: at the time Cuban and my my man, my my
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: agent Dan Fakan were really good friends. So it's all
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: a great, a great scenario and they I got a
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: phone call like the soon as I became rephraging, like no,
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: you can trade it. Sign trade because Brian Klangeol was
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: a GM at the Raptists at the time, so that
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: was my guy from Phoenix. So it was just it's
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: just all worked out and signed trade five year deal
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: from the Dallas frevs Shoes A hoo band oh man
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: of So it was probably my pe shocks M hmm,
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: yeah they are. They're pretty dope. Uh yeah, yeah, they
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: my pe shot.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: I had some.
• 47:56
  Speaker 6: I have variations of shocks and uh I had some.
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: Definitely some players that was pretty dog.
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  Speaker 4: Hey.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: The piggy back off of what es said.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: You know you're a dog.
• 48:06
  Speaker 9: You could drop a dog off of any fight you're
• 48:07
  Speaker 9: gonna battle. Two part question, who is somebody you you
• 48:12
  Speaker 9: didn't play with, but you could take it. You know
• 48:13
  Speaker 9: you would take the war with anybody. You know, you
• 48:15
  Speaker 9: take them to war, any war, and somebody you didn't
• 48:18
  Speaker 9: play with. Who's two people that you would take the
• 48:20
  Speaker 9: war with? So who the people I took? Okay, the
• 48:24
  Speaker 9: first one is the people I will want to go
• 48:25
  Speaker 9: a world with right now? Oh shit, I mean I
• 48:28
  Speaker 9: would running back with the team we wanted in twenty eleven.
• 48:31
  Speaker 9: I mean, oh, I mean, listen, you know it's funny.
• 48:35
  Speaker 9: I came in with J Kid and Penny hardway back
• 48:37
  Speaker 9: for two thousand Phoenix, So listen, those two are special guys, man,
• 48:42
  Speaker 9: you know, and listen, I it wasn't it was it
• 48:47
  Speaker 9: was meant to me and J Kidd to reunite. Dude, like, seriously,
• 48:51
  Speaker 9: though we are playing with JA Kidd. He elevated me early.
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: And told me to do things on the floor without
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: like and just gave me the gave me the green
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: light when I when I came in my rookie season,
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: he was like, you got it go. And we we
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: only played two years together in Phoenix earlier. Then we
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: came back here and won that championship and it was
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: dope only on the person I probably would love to
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: play with that I didn't get to play with too. Man,
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: I actually had a chance to do it, but they
• 49:18
  Speaker 6: didn't have no money. It was Lakers Kobe, So of
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: course m J was already going out the league when
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: I came in. You know, he was on his way out.
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: Uh but uh with Kobe though, So it was it
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: was a situation there that it was. It could have
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: it could have blossomed into something, but it justn' it
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: just didn't happen.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: That's good, big dog. Hey, who gave you that? Welcome
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: to the NBA moment? Oh Mookie Blaylock, Atlanta legend.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Mookie Blaylock.
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: If y'all don't know who he was, he was a
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: hell of a point guard man, and I ain't gonna
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: I ain't gonna lie to this ship was so crazy.
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: So I got the ball, I'm drimming down the court right,
• 50:00
  Speaker 6: and everybody was talking about how quicks his hands were,
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: Pauls so you know, so like I'm literally driven, I'm
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: thinking I'm about to lay it up, right, he didn't
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: already stole that bit from me, And.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: I was like, yo, did he just do that? But like, yeah,
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: his hands was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 4: Clap it up, y'all.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: For the Club five twenty podcast The Matrix, Sean Marion
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Dallas Mavericks leavinging champion. Also beat out to Jeff T,
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: DJ Wells, Bishop be Hen, You don't gotta leave.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Plenty of drinks, plenty of food.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Mix it mingle, clap it up one more time here
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: to see a.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Ring in the trick with deep appreciate Sean for coming
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: out for real.
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: Thank you. Love that