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Bears Over Beers: Case Keenum or Tyson Bagent? Jets Preview · 2nd City Gridiron

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[SPEAKER_00]: pressure off a victory over the Philadelphia Eagles, a big victory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's bears over beers powered by second city grid iron.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You would know, but this is take two because we just did the full show intro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I forgot to hit go live.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's do this again, Brian.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's Ryan Drossie with my good friend, Brian Ornchuk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we got a special guest will be bringing on here momentarily, but like I said, Brian, a 20 point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: dominant win over the Eagles better than we could have possibly imagined.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we got a very win-able game coming this weekend against the New York Jets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How are you feeling?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm feeling great, my man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was, you know, a dominant win against an opponent that nobody expected this to beat, except for myself, of course, and our guests.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, not you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, as I said in our first take that I didn't know we were not live, this reminded me of my favorite win of last year in that black Friday win against the Eagles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, this was an NFC opponent quality opponent a contender.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody really expected us to beat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was kind of a, you know, prove your metal type of game and we came on on top and then you have the.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the added component of Ben, his first time coaching a backup quarterback happens to be a girl dad, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just like us on this show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the way he just dissected the Eagles offense, you know, Vic Fangio's team, it was something to behold.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm excited to get our guests on here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he doesn't know this, but I specifically chose this week to have him on because I was really excited about the offensive and defensive line matchups for this week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so cue, there's your cue, but yeah, I'm excited to get into it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And more than anything, excited about what you're drinking tonight and why you're drinking it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you have to go first tonight, my man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll do this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's in the green room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll do it before he gets on the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So listeners the show will know that I did not pick the bears to win this game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just there was too much uncertainty for me at the quarterback position.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, it was hopeful they would win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was kind of hoping that if I picked against them, I would, you know, be the reverse jinx and they would win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I did say something on the show last week, and I have clipped it here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So for those of you that missed the show, here's us last week, and what I said, leading into the Eagles game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say, Billy 27, 20, and really, really hope that I'm wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I am wrong, and the Bears pull it out, I will pull one of the rarest whiskeys I have off the top shelf, and I'll pour it in the Bears Over Burbing Glass next Wednesday night to celebrate with you, Brian.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fuck yeah, okay, so I healthy poor at least three shots in that glass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh gosh, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay Oh there it was So I have
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[SPEAKER_00]: the bears over Birmingham glass available at the second city grid iron store.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you'd like one, they're very nice, very heavy duty glass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got a little ice in there because I do like my whiskey to have a little chill to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got my Eolani palace shot glass from Hawaii.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've got little aged 10 years eagle rare.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As you can see, it's getting down towards the bottom
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[SPEAKER_00]: very special occasions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I would say the 20 point beat down by a case kingdom and the Chicago Bears, the Philadelphia Eagles qualifies Brian.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to do ice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said three, three shots, didn't I?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, here's my first one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's so fitting that it's an eagle rare.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Eagles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So well done on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, indeed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You caught that actually I didn't even plan that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So thanks for making me look smart and here here is here is shot three oh yeah a little little light shots, but so, okay, we're not going to blame this is this our lightweight on the show you guys you were happy for him oh happy look, I mean, look, it looks yeah, I wish I had one to join you tonight, but I don't have any in my collection.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I also have a course bank where in place in case I need something to wash it down with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you guys are drinking along, let us know in the chat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't even have to be alcoholic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got a RC color or Coca-Cola or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let us know where you drink it tonight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fresca, Fresca is always a solid choice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Always solid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that's what I got.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll take a little sip.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Always smooth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you got Brian?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going with some pumpkin tonight's the night for some pumpkin in a huge double pint and this is a bear's mug if you can see this bears this is this is older than gosh any of my children this is older than my marriage older than probably had this 25 years
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so that the color is faded, but it's still my bear's sheer shield glass and it's got some pumpkin in it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's nice and an autumnal outside these days.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a perfect time to to crack into some pumpkin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is two glasses or two two bottles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it perfectly fits in here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So 8.6% Imperial Pump King, this is our southern tier.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've been reaching out to southern tier to let them know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be visiting them next month.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully, I'll see somebody face to face.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe we can have them sponsor our show a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Southern tier get back to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But this is a pumpkin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is the best pumpkin beer around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm making sure I'm not going to be empty before we end this show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So tears to you, my man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got two good drinks tonight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cheers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll do one cheers here and then one of their guests here and just decide yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes indeed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll take that triple bourbon pour.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll take it and stride.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's my boy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's bring on our guest here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he did the show with us last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had a ton of fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've been talking behind the scenes about guests.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We wanted to bring back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was right at the top of the list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you may know him from twitter.com or x.com where he's at butkestats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You may also know him from the Bears on Tap Show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is our good friend, Quinton, Chris Quinton, Chris Go, let me get him on the screen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There he is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How you doing tonight?
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[SPEAKER_01]: doing great guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope I'm doing as well as you at the end of the show after the triple four, but you know, it sounds a good time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't realize where we're going that heavy tonight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a special occasion, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've got a drink here myself and I'm in Philadelphia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've a Philadelphia brewery
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is described as unity IPA is an approachable IPA that brings hop lovers together around the citrus flavors of American hot blend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who is assertive?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yet highly drinkable low bitterness and a crisp finish.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We could all be a little more unity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, just for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like you said you're in Philadelphia before and it is a good you saying you're in Philadelphia I got to ask you because the other bear's podcast video bears by seven I coast Kevin he always talks about how when he takes his kids to the bus stop There's some packers fans there and when the bears beat the packers or the packers lose He likes to give him a hard time so my question for you is have you been pulling up
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[SPEAKER_00]: to children, bus stops, and yelling at their parents all week, like screw the eagles, go bears, anything like that happening?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I value my life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know if your sports fans are not quite as forgiving as some Midwestern sports fans probably are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Funny story last year, I was out of town for Thanksgiving when the bears played.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the Eagles, but the week after I got back and I take the bus to work and I'm wearing my bears like bears winner hat and getting on the bus and bus driver closed his door for I get on and I had my head closed and I'm like what's that like what's like what just happened and then he opens it back up and goes no bears fans and then he goes again then he lets me on but like he was a good little joke he had yo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you ever gone and seen the bears play in Philly?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have not, I've only been here a few years, so I look at my first chance, but no, I honestly had, I'd need to go with with Eagles fans, that's the only way you're going to get out like without being harassed, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I'd be brave enough to wear barristers to do a Barris Eagles game in Philly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did it once in New York.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I went to Barris Giants and I was a little worried about it, but I didn't really get harassed at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was tons of airspams there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's also how you handle yourself, how you're heckling the crowd when the bars are doing well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, if you're respectful, you'll be fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I do advise you to go with a barris fan or a Eagles fan for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: for a year for a year goes fans that wouldn't be like wouldn't be rough about it then it'd be cool about it but like
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[SPEAKER_01]: if I'm there with other various fans or alone, it feel like there's someone going to start a group.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're from Texas, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm from the West sub Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I grew up on Guina, but I moved to Texas to go to college and then stayed there for about 10 years at the college before moving to Philadelphia with my wife because she's from Scranton, Pennsylvania.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot easier to go see her massive family living in Philadelphia than was living in Texas from Texas yeah and and I'll have to say some because JB just shouted out your hat I love the hat bro looks awesome you know definitely jealous of that one yeah I noticed that you usually rock your orange yeah I've got the orange one right here but it's like I this was the auto buy when I saw they have the tat is my favorite bears logo so I was like yeah that that's that's an automatic when I see that yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the orange one, I got that at a riffs or like a like a second like good will or something in Austin Texas and I'm convinced that that because at the time, I thought I remember reading or hearing somewhere that you could only get those that logo in that color.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you were in the bears organization like they didn't sell for retail, but I know Gerald Freeman had just retired and he lived in Austin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm convinced that was the real Freeman's hat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a very cool story.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a solid linebacker for us, you know, under the bucket moniker as is you are known with your jersey back there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I told you off the air, your new set up man's looking good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're looking good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're always doing your thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate love your stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Look forward to talk with you about the jets, but obviously we got got to knock out the Eagles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was excited to have you on to hear about your thoughts on this game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and especially the way that it unfolded, obviously.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We kind of expected it, but my boy Ryan wasn't quite sure what to expect.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll forgive him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We should have a rule every time we talk, we mention Eagles, he should take a sip of his eagle wear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, Matt, excited to have you on and cheers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I look forward to having that beer someday for sure that looks good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, excited to be on, thanks, guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, man, the seagull rare is going down well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is going to be a fun show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, this is our pivot show in second city grid iron.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, this will be the last show on the feed that even mentions the Eagles game, and we'll be looking ahead to the jets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But of course, we'll talk about the jets tonight, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some brief thoughts, I guess, on the game here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, with Ben Johnson, you don't know what you're going to get.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Last week, we complain for sure about the Vikings game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Should have been a win, the mistakes that were made, players not executing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then you go into that game on Monday night football and just the most creative perfect game plan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, for the most part, I wasn't thrilled with not taking the points there when it was at, you know, a seven zero game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, but you know, outside of that, holy smokes, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we saw how the case kingdom hasn't played in what like almost three years comes in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: just looks solid as hell thrown into the spots, run in the offense, or there's some close calls, of course, here and there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He almost fumbled the hung-on, a couple like very close to picks, but not quite, and just had just an unbelievable game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People are going to be talking about this game for years if not decades around Chicago, especially if the bears go on to have like a championship
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[SPEAKER_00]: and we'll talk about how like it was on the verge here, Caleb was out, income 38 year old case kingdom, the Minnesota Vikings legend himself and look what happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I could not have predicted this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, honestly,
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[SPEAKER_00]: the defense too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The defense just stepping up and I know the Eagles have had their struggles this year, but shutting down a high-octane offense that has the weapons that they have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Seikoan was running the ball really well early in that game and the Eagles just got away from it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I didn't think Seriani had a great game at all, coaching the Eagles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so I think this was Ben Johnson's Shined, Dennis Allen's Shined.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, pretty much all phases of the Bears in general, Shined.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm interested, yeah, to throw it to Q here and give us your takeaways from that game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We know you're kind of an, you know, an O line expert, but just in general, what did you think?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, I mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first takeaway I have to have to throw out there, just it's not the line size, the deadline side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Grady Jared looks better than he has in like three years right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is playing some of the best football that we've seen from him at Atlanta, seen from that anyone seen from him in a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, that's exciting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what happened, what changed, best shape of his life season, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It actually looks like it's true this time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's exciting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that we're really seeing, like Dayo became a meme last year, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was like this guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he became a meme and then the motivated stuff came out and he became even more of a meme.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The dayo is important to what Dennis Allen wants to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He might be overpaid, like this that whatever, him and Shemar Turner are supposed to play the same kind of role where they are your pivot guy on the D-line that you can either be an even front or an odd front.
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[SPEAKER_01]: as long as those guys out there, they can play either, they can do either, and that gives you so much variability, and we're really seeing that this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, they have Dayo and Booker who can be that odd front edge rusher for them, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's, it's really feels like that D-line is coming together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still not told that they're good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: D-line, per se, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're, they're a lot better than I expected
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't, I didn't know his care, Bradbury, I'm gonna solve it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a huge, you have to improve him from the previous two games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, first I'm all seasoned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was gonna say, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That, and then, you know, the right side, the basketball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So over there, Joe and Jackson, Darnell, right, just keep bashing at, it's like even, even when they move over to the left side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: they can mash and head, which is beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought overall, like, oh, I thought did about Jalen Carter got his.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to get his.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought they quite adjored in Davis really well all game, more O. J.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mother, they got into a few mental errors even.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, Bernard had a few moments, but like, overall, the O.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wine took care of business out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty handedly, which is good to see them continue to do again against a strong front.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe the strongest
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[SPEAKER_01]: Overall, take away from the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and Johnson's that dude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, in case Kingdom rules, like we can talk about case Kingdom all that we want, but like at the end of the day, Ben Johnson threw together a designer game plan in eight days that incorporated air raids, spread concepts that we have not seen from him since he was in Detroit, even get thought about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which, like that was not an offense that Caleb wrote.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've been very pointed about this what I've said it some too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The offense that Caleb runs, I believe only four or five quarter guys, the NFL can run that offense because of the arm talent and his capability that it requires, but you're not going to ask, case came to me, I just like, if agent plays, you're not going to ask Beijing to do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You need to create a whole new game plan, which we everyone on the offense needs to be on the same page.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were, they learned it this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They figured out, and they did not have many mental errors out there, besides for maybe a Ramodoon's a drop, which is
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I felt very, very like guess what was the last thing there was just found a way to win a football game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had no business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're so used to them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The opposite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I even close like they just they just won hand in books.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's just it's a weird place to be as a bear's fan and it's incredible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just feel it's it feels so much better after it all week last week everything was in the limbo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know what the status of Caleb is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, what does this mean for the season?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can the backups get it done?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you see a game like that and it's like, holy, and again, you know, yeah, we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I feel like I did week one and Caleb's not even out there, which is crazy to even think about.
18:53
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, man, I agree with a lot of your takeaways.
18:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, just clean up those penalties with huge.
18:58
[SPEAKER_00]: First two weeks, we saw us at what around 10 penalties a game, they cut it down to five, I think, the Eagles committed all the penalties, you know, in this game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the creativity, I can't remember what quarter it was in, but there was that play where they ran like two receivers through the sea gap in the line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was like incredible play, just creative as hell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Stuff you never see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Brian, your thoughts?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean,
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[SPEAKER_02]: all around, it was just a, you know, complete domination from a coaching standpoint, you know, Nick Seriani was out coach and outclass, but we're not going to get into that.
19:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, people forget that Vic Fangeo, you know, you guys don't forget, but a lot of people forget that the Eagles not only have one of the most talented rosters,
19:44
[SPEAKER_02]: especially defensively in the entire league.
19:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And you already mentioned up front, but their secondary is also equally as potent, right?
19:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And they also have talent-exact bond is bona fide all pro at linebacker and then they got Jihad Campbell from Alabama in the second year, another stud, right?
20:06
[SPEAKER_02]: That allowed them to move on from the Kobe Dean.
20:08
[SPEAKER_02]: They've got
20:10
[SPEAKER_02]: blue chip players all around that defense coached by one of the most elite defensive coordinators of this millennia and
20:21
[SPEAKER_02]: we completely outcoach them.
20:23
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the thing, Q, that there is so refreshingly rare.
20:28
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, when has that happened?
20:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what it comes down to.
20:31
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, when have we won a game, we had no business winning?
20:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Last time we had a coach like that, which honestly, I don't know that we've ever had a coach that was so much more exes in those ahead of the competition.
20:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Lovey.
20:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I talked about him tonight because I wore the shirt, and people like,
20:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's supposed to say love.
20:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Why does it say love, isn't it?
20:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's the bear's coat, you know.
20:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And he was one of my favorite coaches, probably my favorite coach.
20:54
[SPEAKER_02]: But from a schematic standpoint, you knew what you're getting from him defensively, you know, that Tampa 2, he ran that and he ran it well.
21:01
[SPEAKER_02]: But if he ran it because he had, you know, the bulldogs like Earl Acre, Tommy Harris, and the like, you know, running it for him, Lance Briggs for sure, peanut, all those guys.
21:11
[SPEAKER_02]: But like schematically, the case kingdom, you know, like you said, it's been over a thousand days since he started and to go back to some of those Jared golf comments
21:22
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, and to let it be his own.
21:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And you mentioned it.
21:25
[SPEAKER_02]: You like the fact that there was this completely new game plan.
21:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And Casey even mentioned it on his, I think it was a day after it might have been post game pot or as post game interview.
21:37
[SPEAKER_02]: How,
21:38
[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't know that the guys were gonna be where they were supposed to be and he threw it, where they're supposed to be.
21:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Multiple times and they were there.
21:47
[SPEAKER_02]: So like you said, they were all on the same page, bought into this idea.
21:52
[SPEAKER_02]: And that is the sign of a well-coached team, a well-oiled machine, right?
21:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Especially with a new player.
22:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's not even the second string that was in there who maybe got a couple reps from them throughout camp.
22:09
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't know that he didn't win that when I was there.
22:12
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that he did all summer with the ones.
22:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Why would he?
22:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And so he came in and did that and, you know, he executed it and you could tell Ben was Ben relish that opportunity to play to coach with some players who were not that first round picks.
22:28
[SPEAKER_02]: He said, made that comment in the conference and it's funny to see him take things personally.
22:34
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it was just, you know, those are the type of wins that you remember those are the type of wins that make you proud to be a fan, you know, obviously week one was was awesome and super fun, but like we were supposed to win that game week one.
22:48
[SPEAKER_02]: weren't supposed to win this game, you know.
22:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I know I picked them, but you know, I had my doubts if I'm being honest, right?
22:55
[SPEAKER_02]: And the Eagles were a 2-0 team that was, you know, mostly, obviously on the offensive line and cute you know this well, their offensive line's pretty decimated from injury right now, so pretty critical guys, but they're still a super strong team all around, and so for us to beat them the way we did that was super encouraging.
23:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really curious to know what you guys think, because I haven't talked to Ryan about this either.
23:20
[SPEAKER_02]: But what do you think about which way we should go when it comes to this week at quarterback?
23:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, are you, you know, it's kind of, from what I've seen from fans, it's pretty split down in the middle, but it's definitely edging Tyson from what people are saying.
23:36
[SPEAKER_02]: So what do you guys think about that?
23:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Based on how we play, where we're at, how you, you know, keep the team engaged and believing in the quarter, like what are your thoughts on that?
23:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my thoughts on it are, honestly, I don't think it really matters that much.
23:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I think either of them are going to succeed because of Ben Johnson, right?
23:55
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think whoever they go with, I don't, obviously going to matter to the guys.
24:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure Tyson wants to get in there.
24:01
[SPEAKER_00]: He, honestly, like on the sideline, he didn't look happy at times.
24:05
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he wanted to be out there and he wants his opportunity and he's been around this team for years.
24:09
[SPEAKER_00]: So,
24:10
[SPEAKER_00]: If they go with Tyson I have no problem with that ultimately whatever Ben Johnson decides is I think it's going to be the right decision.
24:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I have total faith in him.
24:20
[SPEAKER_00]: On one hand, yeah, you think you got to go with the hot hand, but then you also wonder can case replicate what he did and you know, just such a special night like I said, I mean, there was multiple times where.
24:34
[SPEAKER_00]: God, those turnovers were close.
24:35
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't happen, but it was close.
24:38
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's just some magic in the air.
24:39
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all your field.
24:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, we have the we have the benefit of playing at home again in this game.
24:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I push comes a shove, I don't want to see what Tyson can do quite honestly, but I don't really have a strong opinion on it.
24:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been thinking about this today, and it kind of depends on the hour.
24:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been going both directions on it.
25:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's not a great answer for you, but to me it's just like whatever Ben decides, I'm cool with.
25:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how you feel about it right now.
25:07
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I actually have a pretty strong opinion about this.
25:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, I think case was outstanding.
25:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he was perfect for one game.
25:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's exactly what you needed.
25:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not sure Tyson could have given you that before, and see you there.
25:21
[SPEAKER_01]: But, but, you call it big Van Geo completely off guard.
25:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Big Van Geo's guys were not ready to play a spread offense.
25:32
[SPEAKER_01]: They just weren't.
25:32
[SPEAKER_01]: He said as much in a press conference today.
25:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Next week, if you're going with case that the jets are going to be ready for it.
25:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So one, you're going to have, you're going to have corners attacking those outrides that were almost intersections, and they're becoming those options in my mind.
25:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And two.
25:51
[SPEAKER_01]: case three eight years old.
25:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'd like to use this analogy or all last week I did.
25:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I like to preface it with I know we're near case teams athleticism, shape, anything like that and I don't disillusion myself in the thinking I am.
26:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But.
26:10
[SPEAKER_01]: two weeks ago, I played in a like charity softball and we played four softball games in one step.
26:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I was a sore for like five days after that.
26:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm 36.
26:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Case is 38.
26:22
[SPEAKER_01]: The joint, the joint aspect can't be that different and my joints were how it would man.
26:28
[SPEAKER_01]: So I can't imagine, my case is feeling like right now.
26:32
[SPEAKER_01]: So that to me has to play a bit of a factor but the biggest point for me is,
26:39
[SPEAKER_01]: When you have Ben Johnson on your side, you have a scheme or like this, scheming things up for your quarterback strengths, you have another chance to completely catch a defense off guard rate.
26:51
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't know what Tyson Bajans biggest strengths are.
26:54
[SPEAKER_01]: We barely know what Tyson Bajans biggest strengths.
26:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, how do you game plan for that?
26:59
[SPEAKER_01]: To me, that is the biggest aspect to why Tyson should be starting this game is because it is a unknown what Ben Johnson is going to dial up
27:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm 100% with you on that the surprise factor for Beijing.
27:17
[SPEAKER_02]: However, I feel like that should wait till next week if and when Caleb's not ready against Green Bay.
27:26
[SPEAKER_02]: That's when we use Tyson.
27:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I think especially with it being a short week.
27:32
[SPEAKER_02]: preparation wise, to build off of what continuity and just concepts and
27:41
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, all the schemes and comfortability when it comes to case and the offensive line and the team build off of what they just did.
27:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's gotta be case and I'm pretty opinionated too.
27:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty strong in that opinion.
27:54
[SPEAKER_02]: So I love this.
27:55
[SPEAKER_02]: We got someone in the middle in Ryan.
27:57
[SPEAKER_02]: We got you on the Beijing side and me on the case side and that's, you know, it's all about bears overbears.
28:03
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we're not trying to, you know, we're not trying to tell anybody how to fan.
28:08
[SPEAKER_02]: So cheers to that.
28:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and if I can say, like, it's, that's a valid argument and that's a valid aspect in my mind though.
28:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sitting here like across that bridge when I get there.
28:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just trying to gain my game until K-1's back.
28:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
28:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's like, I don't know if I'll need that.
28:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Right now I know I need this.
28:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
28:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and you mean, you bring up a valid argument too, especially given the fact that there's so much parity in the league right now.
28:38
[SPEAKER_02]: It's any given Sunday, you know, like I totally get that.
28:40
[SPEAKER_02]: But there are two things I have confidence in and we talked about one a lot already, and that's Ben Johnson, right?
28:47
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's going to be coaching no matter who's under center.
28:50
[SPEAKER_02]: The other thing is we've got the players and a lot of people forget
28:57
[SPEAKER_02]: that Kase Keenum succeeded, not because he is Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady, but he simply got the ball to the playmakers that were doing their job, right?
29:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, granted, nobody expected Klee Framet to be leading our team and receiving Nards at this point in the season, but make no mistake.
29:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Like this offense every week that's so far, every game so far this season has started
29:26
[SPEAKER_02]: right like he is that special uh that X factor if you will that that and so he's a dog out there you know you mentioned room already who you know unfortunately had his characteristic drop at the the most inopportune time and then force bends to you know do something stupid and and that was all rooms fault I blame that all on room
29:47
[SPEAKER_02]: But the point, and we got two backs that are studs, we got some, you know, elite offensive line, you know, we haven't even talked about that play where, where Tune, you know, peeled out to, from left side, right, like you saw that stuff like Tune is, is maybe the best in the league at any offensive line spot.
30:05
[SPEAKER_02]: So we've got the players on offense.
30:08
[SPEAKER_02]: that we don't need a superstar back there.
30:11
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't need anything fancy back there.
30:13
[SPEAKER_02]: We just need a quarterback to stain his lane and that's what case can do.
30:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And I trust that Tyson can as well.
30:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Tyson, Beijing.
30:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I do.
30:22
[SPEAKER_02]: So my my mentality would be all right, especially given the fact that case did so well.
30:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Let him roll with this and then next week on a full week of preparation.
30:32
[SPEAKER_02]: then play Tyson and and keep this mind game going as far as not not declaring who that quarterback is have been going you know if it's Caleb it's Caleb and even have him is a third option next week a hope for hoping Caleb's back for hope you know he's maybe a limited participant in practice and also you know who's in this Tyson pageant who they have no film on and so
30:54
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I love that argument and I think that's totally valid.
30:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I think case.
30:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's not just a, you know, a Cinderella story, you know, I think I think he's the pumpkin, you know, he's the guy who's it's not going to when when midnight strikes, you know, I think he's got a little bit more time than that.
31:13
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think he earned it, I think, is his teammates, you know, love it and again, just get the ball to the damn playmakers and run the ball.
31:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're playing the jets.
31:23
[SPEAKER_02]: That's another thing.
31:24
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not not to take anyone lightly.
31:26
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just said the parody in a league is real.
31:28
[SPEAKER_02]: But the jets are even better than they've bent.
31:31
[SPEAKER_02]: They're a better team.
31:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And I can't wait either to take on, on Membo at a right tackle.
31:36
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to see some of the best right tackle play in the league this week,
31:42
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, we're playing a jet to it.
31:44
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a non-conference game, at home, a winnable game, the crowd loves case kingdom right now, right?
31:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Like rock with this momentum a little bit, especially thinking that you're gonna go with Tyson.
31:56
[SPEAKER_02]: You just declared, oh, he's our number two for a reason, you know, and then go back with case.
32:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's what I would go, but either way, as you both said, I trust Ben, no matter which way it goes, I'm gonna be stoked about it.
32:08
[SPEAKER_02]: And I have faith that we're gonna win regardless,
32:12
[SPEAKER_02]: So no, it's a win-win.
32:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like I said, I kind of lean Tyson, but I just, I love the gains ofmanship from Ben.
32:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't think he's going to really let on.
32:22
[SPEAKER_00]: What's going on here all week?
32:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you hear the reporters like trying to press him for that answer today?
32:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
32:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
32:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Like let me circle back to this one more time.
32:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
32:31
[SPEAKER_02]: It's come on.
32:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you're, you're reporting for us.
32:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Stop trying to get this out of you.
32:36
[SPEAKER_00]: do you think about just think about the fact though that we have this quarterback room where we got three guys that can play and have played right now like the fact that you're third string quarterback is the Minneapolis miracle guy it's like it's pretty incredible and you know my my big thing last week was just
32:57
[SPEAKER_00]: knowing that, you know, the Eagles have that talented defensive front and, you know, they could get after it and that Kenan was not very mobile and I was worried about that, but he got the ball out so quickly that it didn't matter.
33:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
33:08
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, the jets can get after here too.
33:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, Beijing's more mobile, but
33:13
[SPEAKER_00]: casing and sling the ball out really quick again, you know, it won't matter either.
33:17
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I just I think Ben will cater the plan to whoever it is.
33:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I've total faith in that.
33:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Just have faith in three quarterbacks.
33:25
[SPEAKER_00]: The coaching room is just so refreshing and so unknown to us as bears fans.
33:30
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35:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so this Sunday bears jets definitely a very winnable game.
35:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Soldier feels going to be rocking after Monday night football, short week, as we said.
35:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there are teams that have some talent, but they've also struggled as well.
35:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Gina Smith has looked really good this year.
35:39
[SPEAKER_00]: He hasn't thrown it in receptions.
35:41
[SPEAKER_00]: He's had a fumble, but he's been pretty safe with the ball.
35:44
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's been slinging it around nicely.
35:46
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got some weapons there, tight ends and wide receivers.
35:49
[SPEAKER_00]: The running game has not been going well for the New York jet.
35:53
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I'm curious what Q, what you have to say about the O-line in New York and what you've seen out of them so far.
36:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, they've, they've got talent.
36:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they, oh, Sean, it was top 15 pick up, or maybe somewhere around their top 15 pick.
36:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Our mom, Bedmoop, a top 10 pick.
36:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe Joe Tippin was a second round pick, and then Josh Myers been a league-wise, and Dylan Parham wasn't drafted by the judge, but he was also a second round pick.
36:23
[SPEAKER_01]: You have a lot of guys who are supposed to be successful in the NFL, and I said, well, now, something that,
36:32
[SPEAKER_01]: gives me like it's kind of a weird topic because it doesn't get brought up about these guys that much but I wasn't that big a fan of Olu Fashano and our mom and boo coming out as many people were okay and it had nothing to do with their upside their physical talent that was all that I didn't think either like to rock.
36:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought both these guys were extremely talented in past
37:01
[SPEAKER_01]: a lot of tools to work with and if you get them to run walk consistently well, they'd be good at it.
37:07
[SPEAKER_01]: But especially Fashanu, I felt like he does not need to not like contact.
37:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was meant to.
37:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think he avoided contact as much as there were just a lot of moments where I just couldn't understand what I was trying to do with the run walk.
37:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that shows through when their numbers here, we're looking at the 27th best rush offense in EPA per rush and the 25th best in rush success rate.
37:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think that this O line is not built to run like.
37:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
37:37
[SPEAKER_01]: It's valid.
37:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Membo does have flashes where he's really good at it and I said like in my craft profile for him his upside Confemy was darn alright.
37:46
[SPEAKER_01]: He's that type of physical specimen and like when he's when he does it wouldn't He's all in all invested on the rum block.
37:53
[SPEAKER_01]: He looks like that
37:55
[SPEAKER_01]: But a lot of times, she just isn't.
37:56
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know how to reconcile that as an evaluator because everyone will tell you that, finding guys who can pass protect like these guys do is the hardest thing to find their offense.
38:09
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why they go so early.
38:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
38:12
[SPEAKER_01]: But at the end of the day, I also care more about rum walking.
38:15
[SPEAKER_01]: When you want to take anything I do pass walking.
38:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause I'm like, you can't teach that.
38:18
[SPEAKER_01]: You can teach the rum walk.
38:22
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I've always kind of struggled with this online from that aspect, very talented group, very impressive.
38:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I love Joe Tipman.
38:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, me too.
38:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Joe Tipman.
38:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I wanted him in Chicago, man.
38:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that bullet just rocks.
38:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
38:37
[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think that there's some, you can see why they're rushing stats are what they are, I think.
38:44
[SPEAKER_02]: That's interesting, take.
38:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
38:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, obviously you're not wrong as far as the skill, the, the, the expertise, if you will, the forte, if you will of those players.
38:59
[SPEAKER_02]: And the correlation between.
39:02
[SPEAKER_02]: the shrub was on the ground.
39:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, this week, we're going to, they're going to be down.
39:06
[SPEAKER_02]: There are, be one.
39:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Breeze halls out.
39:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I think, you know, fans would be foolish to, to, to discount, discredit their backup.
39:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Braille and Allen is, is an absolute beast of a man who, you know, he can make his, the whole, if it's not there already.
39:24
[SPEAKER_02]: He's that type of back.
39:27
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, you got Gino back there, which is so fascinating for him to come back full circle.
39:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And they've got some weapons, you know, I think Garrett Wilson is one of the most underrated and most elite receivers in the game.
39:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he can shake loose of any man on man coverage out there.
39:44
[SPEAKER_02]: And you've got Kenyan Sadik, the rookie at Oregon.
39:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm fascinated to see him line up against his former teammate.
39:54
[SPEAKER_02]: and our rookie the year so far, Dylan Damon.
39:57
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think Thinham is having a heck of a year and and and watching him because he's going to be on the move with with sedic they move sedic around a lot they like use multiple tight ends sets in the in New York and sedic is is a specimen he had the fastest 40 yard time right up all time I think at the combine you know he's that sort of a athletic stud and obviously you know, Thinham is as well, but he sees at least 30 35 pounds to him.
40:25
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's going to be a matchup to watch for me, because they have weapons themselves.
40:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, Omar Cooper, who I was super high on coming out.
40:35
[SPEAKER_02]: They got Omar Cooper at the end of the first round, but he's on IR right now short-term IR, so he's not going to be in there.
40:43
[SPEAKER_02]: and add nine Mitchell's not going to be playing this week either.
40:47
[SPEAKER_02]: So they're thin at receiver, but Garrett Wilson is enough to give us troubles.
40:51
[SPEAKER_02]: And Kenyan City is more than enough, you know, from there.
40:55
[SPEAKER_02]: And they still got some guys running the ball.
40:57
[SPEAKER_02]: But on defense, you know, it's interesting.
40:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, they got David Bailey, you know, what's going to happen at left tackle for us with Braxton being out?
41:05
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm interested to see because talk about Runglocking.
41:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you
41:12
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, how seeking to hold up against David Bailey, you know, I don't know that he's going to do too well, but, but then you have the Ben factor, you know, throw it with a rouse in there, throw lovelin or commit in there to help him out, chip him out.
41:26
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's going to be interesting.
41:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is definitely a game we should win and we will win, we'll get to predictions a little bit later.
41:32
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, Gino is similar to case key name in a lot of ways.
41:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he can, he can understand what the defense is throwing at him and get it to the right spot if he's got time and that offensive line, they're strong.
41:45
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you talked about Param as you, was your last guy you mentioned.
41:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think from according to PFF, I believe he's got the strongest, the highest rating of all of them.
41:56
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and even if he's, if he's not, he's still having a heck of a year.
41:59
[SPEAKER_02]: So, their tackles are blue chip.
42:01
[SPEAKER_02]: They've got some guys in the interior, they're blue chip.
42:04
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we're going to struggle to get after the quarterback this week because of the offensive line.
42:08
[SPEAKER_02]: But we've seen some good offensive lines this year already.
42:11
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's going to be a great game and and I'm excited to see how it pans out.
42:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you guys know what the weather's going to be like and Ryan, what do your thoughts?
42:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me check the weather because I actually have not seen it yet.
42:23
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be nice and crisp for you.
42:26
[SPEAKER_00]: You like those games.
42:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Ryan, it's going to be a high of 69 degrees in sunny.
42:31
[SPEAKER_00]: So a cool fall day.
42:33
[SPEAKER_00]: No rain, which is good to here.
42:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know, man, like the first game.
42:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So when they play Tennessee, you know, he can get sacked at all.
42:41
[SPEAKER_00]: He got sacked five times against the Lions four times against Green Bay.
42:45
[SPEAKER_00]: But he's just been so efficient, like I said, and he hasn't thrown any interceptions this year.
42:50
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a completion percentage of 75 and a half percent, you know, so far, but they've struggled to run the ball.
42:56
[SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned Breeze Hall being out.
42:58
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, he hasn't been having a lot of success.
43:00
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a talented dude.
43:02
[SPEAKER_00]: We know that.
43:02
[SPEAKER_00]: We talked last year about if the Bears could work a trade
43:06
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I think he's averaging like 3.2 yards of carry.
43:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he ran for like 2.5 last week against the lions so that, you know, they've struggled so much to run the ball and I feel almost like that's a perfect matchup for the bears because
43:21
[SPEAKER_00]: that's been our Achilles heel for the last couple of years is not being able to stop the run and they've struggled a lot in that.
43:28
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and G. You know, yeah, he's playing well.
43:30
[SPEAKER_00]: We struggle against the past sometimes, but, you know, we even saw last week, they didn't end up rushing the ball for that many yards, but like early in the game, Sakeorn was looking like he was going to have a heck of a game and they just got away from it.
43:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Now you're down Breeze Hall's going to be even harder for the Jets.
43:47
[SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned the number two
43:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
43:52
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, but I mean, he's, you know, he'll get some yards, but in the end, you know, I think there's going to be opportunities for a D line, which has looked a lot better than we expected as we said earlier in the show to make some plays.
44:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe this is the game where Gino finally turns it over, you know, we, we will see, but you know, I think the bears, I think the bears can have some success running the ball on them again.
44:21
[SPEAKER_00]: So I also think this is going to be a win.
44:25
[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, I'm fairly confident in picking the bears in this game.
44:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Unlike last week, I won't be making any bets about bourbon.
44:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Unless I want to drink more bourbon next week, which may be I do, but no, I just think with the injuries they have, with what they struggle doing, versus where our weaknesses are, I just, I feel really good about this game.
44:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Very good.
44:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And that is not just the bourbon talking.
44:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, show us your class.
44:52
[SPEAKER_02]: How much of you knocked out my mind?
44:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's almost gone.
44:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I got like maybe you're right.
44:56
[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.
44:56
[SPEAKER_02]: This is, this is the freest we have seen Ryan on this show, possibly ever.
45:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I haven't, I haven't cracked the course banquet yet.
45:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, that's, that's still there.
45:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Q's thinking, who is this guy?
45:07
[SPEAKER_00]: How much does he drink every week?
45:08
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
45:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, I mean, something that Ryan and you Ryan as well were saying, like Ken Ruther with the, the jet's run game and it kind of got my,
45:20
[SPEAKER_01]: my brain moving and my the gears going to something that I was thinking about the other day, tight under so important to the run game right now, right?
45:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Like cross the tight under very important to what you do in the run game, how you create gaps and seams within the blocking and create those holes within the defense.
45:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I look at the jet's tight ends.
45:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I see an undersized Kenyansity get 63240.
45:45
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not a guy who can walk in mine.
45:47
[SPEAKER_01]: At least right now.
45:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And Mason Taylor, who's listed 65 to 50.
45:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought Mason Taylor hated contact and he's rafting.
45:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
45:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought there's a reason he's not playing defensive and like his dad did, because he doesn't like contact.
46:01
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a good receiver.
46:02
[SPEAKER_01]: He's good past care, but you're right.
46:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And I can hear that's like what the bears have and love wind is on the wire side at 6, 6, 2, 40, but commits 6, 6, 2, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6
46:18
[SPEAKER_01]: their equals across the, for the jets, that also has to be a fact and why they're not running football, for sure.
46:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And, and, and Lovelin is one of the more underrated blockers in the league too, even at his size.
46:30
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got the willpower to do it and the tech, tech, and the calories to do it as well.
46:35
[SPEAKER_02]: You can tell that the rank will up some like a couple hundred pounds,
46:41
[SPEAKER_02]: bulls.
46:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know what they do in rodeo.
46:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, they do have Jeremy Rucker who who played a good bit.
46:51
[SPEAKER_02]: He had, I think, aside from Wilson and Sidney, he was right up there in targets as well.
46:57
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's getting a lot of snaps, six, five, two, 50, former Ohio State guy.
47:02
[SPEAKER_02]: He's up there, but you're right.
47:03
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's like, he's built like, oh, yeah, he's a piece of beast.
47:07
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a heavy 250.
47:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
47:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think he's more now.
47:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't trust any sizes.
47:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's looking to 60.
47:15
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, you obviously, it's a great point.
47:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And one of the things they love doing with Breeze Hall, which is that, you know, I'm curious to see how they attack us with Braille and Allen.
47:24
[SPEAKER_02]: They love getting Breeze, you know, in space in the past game, you know, quick screens, swings, you know, Texas routes, all that stuff.
47:33
[SPEAKER_02]: How they're going to do with
47:38
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I felt like last year, especially the short pass game with Brayton with Brice Hall wasn't an extension of the run game for them because they couldn't block anybody last year.
47:48
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, you know, that was obviously their counter to that, but you know, you're right.
47:52
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think Ryan, you make the good point, too, is it really matches up well for us.
47:57
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, as far as schematically and how how we play on defense and in our strengths, personnel wise, you know, talking about great endurance, ascension and, you know, I don't know that we can, I don't know that we can break through the passing game against their past blockers.
48:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I would love to see it, especially knowing that the packers did so well.
48:18
[SPEAKER_02]: What's his name?
48:20
[SPEAKER_02]: the the white guy from was at Nebraska was his name from the crackers.
48:28
[SPEAKER_02]: The defense event.
48:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Number nine.
48:32
[SPEAKER_02]: He had a great game against the jets.
48:34
[SPEAKER_02]: He had a great game and he's no Mike a Parsons.
48:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously didn't have Mike for that game.
48:40
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, can we do it?
48:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
48:44
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know,
48:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm, I'm skeptical to see our guys, you know, our, our, our, I don't feel like we've seen any past rushes.
48:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen Grady get pressure.
48:56
[SPEAKER_02]: He hasn't closed on one yet.
48:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he still feels like a step slow, like old man speed, right?
49:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's breaking through chasing down these guys and his goofy gate and, and he can't quite get the, but he's there.
49:08
[SPEAKER_02]: You're right.
49:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's breaking through the line.
49:09
[SPEAKER_02]: He's getting through even double teams.
49:11
[SPEAKER_02]: He's splitting.
49:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And I love to see it as well.
49:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I've not been as closely watching him as you have, but I have noticed him in good ways, which is encouraging.
49:21
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm not sure we can get after Gino and he's, because he gets to ball out quickly as well.
49:27
[SPEAKER_02]: So, it'll be really interesting to see, I think we do this when this game.
49:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna go out and give my prediction.
49:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna go ahead and give it.
49:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm saying 34-16 Dubbares.
49:39
[SPEAKER_00]: your prediction is really close to mine.
49:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Really, I haven't written down here.
49:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking at it as you start saying that like, oh, oh.
49:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, look, I'll get mine here in a second too.
49:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I just wanted to say because when I was listening to Quentin talk about all, you know, like the undersized tight ends compared to ours.
49:56
[SPEAKER_00]: That was pretty interesting because I know that when they played Detroit last week, they used multiple tight ends on like 36% of their snaps.
50:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that's because they're a little undersized anymore way to out there.
50:09
[SPEAKER_00]: But when they had multiple tight ends on the field, they scored a couple of touchdowns.
50:13
[SPEAKER_00]: So look for that in that game.
50:16
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, their defense, like we said earlier in the show, they have produced maybe better even than people were expecting.
50:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they held Tennessee and Green Bay, both were less than 200 yards of total offense.
50:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I mean, they did do as well, against Detroit last week, and Detroit at 381 against them.
50:34
[SPEAKER_00]: But with the bears having one of the most potent offenses in the league, regardless of who's at quarterback, based on what we saw last week,
50:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel pretty confident they're going to break 200 yards in this game and you know do better.
50:48
[SPEAKER_00]: So my prediction is I'm actually going to go 1. higher than they beat the Eagles and I'm going to say 3413.
50:58
[SPEAKER_00]: bears.
50:58
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think this one is even close.
51:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Like there was points in the Eagles game where we were like a little worried.
51:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Why didn't we take the points?
51:05
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it was close at half time and then we were able to pull away.
51:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I have total confidence that in the second half of games, Dennis Allen is going to adjust no matter what we see in the first half and he's going to limit any offense.
51:17
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we saw that all through last year, our defense struggled all year long, but so many times, they would lock it down in the second half.
51:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're going to lock it down in this game from the very beginning.
51:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think like the breeze haul injury is going to hurt them.
51:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think, you know, we have an ascending defense right now.
51:34
[SPEAKER_00]: They might not have the big names.
51:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And we might not have, you know, despite Dylan, maybe maybe he's going to flash as a rookie of the year contender as the season goes on.
51:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
51:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Talk to about that.
51:44
[SPEAKER_00]: My game balls column and Wendy city grid iron the other day.
51:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a stats don't jump off the page, but dude is making.
51:51
[SPEAKER_00]: He is making an impact So much.
51:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean just like the tackles he had on the goal line against the Eagles and I think he shows up big here I think TJ Edwards is having a hell of a season so far this year I just feel really confident that we're gonna shut them down right from the get go that soldier feels gonna be rocking and I think no matter who plays
52:13
[SPEAKER_00]: quarterback.
52:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're going to put up points.
52:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're going to run the ball well, just like Detroit did last week against them.
52:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think we get a 21 point comfortable win.
52:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And we feel really good about it at three and one when, you know, last week we were talking about if we, man, if we dropped his game to Eagles, we weren't one and two things get sketchy really fast.
52:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And now I feel like the way the schedule sets up with Green Bay looking horrible so far.
52:39
[SPEAKER_00]: There's some really winnable games coming up, you know, like I see the bears could be 501-601.
52:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they start stacking some wins here and Caleb comes back into the fold and they really get going and get hot.
52:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm feeling good.
52:53
[SPEAKER_00]: The bourbon helps, but
52:55
[SPEAKER_00]: 3413 bears.
52:59
[SPEAKER_01]: That is a competent poll right there.
53:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
53:02
[SPEAKER_01]: So, for my prediction, and I want to, there's something I wanted to mention that I'm going to kind of tie into this, and it's during this last Eagles game, right?
53:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Like,
53:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I was messaging with a former Winni City great-iron guy, Robert Schmidt, throughout the game, I read it.
53:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, nice.
53:18
[SPEAKER_01]: In a group chat.
53:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And something he kept saying that I feel like I need to keep saying, I'm podcast said, I'm last night too, because it's just, I couldn't stop laughing as he was saying it was like he's, the way he framed it was Dennis Allen keeps giving handing jail and hurts a knife and saying, what are you going to do, stab me?
53:37
[SPEAKER_01]: like you can't even middle the field wide open and be like, take it, take it, you won't, you won't do it.
53:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what we're going to see in this game to a similar extent where like, I expect Dennis Allen to dare them to run football.
53:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
53:54
[SPEAKER_01]: To say, we know you're not going to beat us right football.
53:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So go for it.
53:59
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys aren't good enough at it.
54:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to make sure you notice beat us.
54:03
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's still going to get his, I think.
54:05
[SPEAKER_01]: But like, I think to me, that's the ultimate strategy I'm looking at in this game of like, you need to make their offensive line decide to run lock.
54:13
[SPEAKER_01]: and their tight ends and receivers and everything.
54:17
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys, it takes all 11, 10 plus the running back doing the run.
54:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
54:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't believe that they have that figured out.
54:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
54:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll take my chances, giving up five yards, four yards of clip to Braille and Allen, as opposed to trying to shut that down and letting Gino Smith and Garrett Wilson actually hurt.
54:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's kind of how I see this game going ultimately.
54:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, you know, still going to get his, he's like, I'm a big Gino fan.
54:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you know, Kelly is a terrorist.
54:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And Gino has gotten a lot of flag for last year that Price, Fallon, Chip Kelly.
54:55
[SPEAKER_01]: But I just do still think he gives you doctor to take the football.
54:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's just like a wild man who does wild things.
55:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's good sometimes.
55:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Spat sometimes.
55:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I see the bears winning this.
55:07
[SPEAKER_01]: very close.
55:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't 28 to 27 and I have the game ending on a genosmith interception.
55:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And I said Devon Bush is going to get that interception over the middle of the field.
55:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
55:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Love that Devon Bush redemption game.
55:21
[SPEAKER_00]: There it is.
55:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
55:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for that goal line that's sneak where he just stood there last week.
55:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
55:28
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got a lot of luck.
55:29
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got to make it for it.
55:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, gosh.
55:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he dropped the pick the week before.
55:33
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it was right this year.
55:35
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he does and I think he's given the pregame speech on the field of the team the last two weeks too.
55:41
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he definitely needs
55:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw on Twitter one of the video videos from him at Michigan if like tearing up the other teams logo at the fifth.
55:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, or like before the game and Michigan steak and I saw that I was like Of course, that's a dentist out.
56:00
[SPEAKER_00]: How do I know.
56:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I'm excited to see him, you know, embrace the rivalry against the cheese, but we're not quite there yet.
56:12
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I
56:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
56:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm with you.
56:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Gino and Garrett are going to get there.
56:19
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no corner on our team that can hang with Garrett Wilson in his route running prowess.
56:24
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not happening.
56:26
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think Dennis is going to double him.
56:28
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's going to be open all night.
56:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I think the way you do is you try to keep, you guys keep him in front of you, right?
56:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Play some cover to keep him in front.
56:37
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, he's he's going to get his
56:40
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, so I can see that.
56:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I would be a little bit surprised if big is much, you know, it'll be interesting to see how, like I said, Sadie, he's kind of my wild card for that offense at this point because they're down at nine Mitchell, don't have a Mark Cooper, you know, Isaiah Williams, I feel like that's his name.
56:57
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a solid, I think we can kind of hang with him.
57:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Mason Taylor is I think he might be hobbled a little bit, but but and Sidney is also not 100% he didn't quite finish the game 100% but he's dangerous, so that's going to be, you know, something else too, but yeah, I think we went to what we all got wins, we all got W's so I mean, you know, none of us are going to be wrong if we went to matter what, but I don't think I will pick the bears to lose a game in the Ben Johnson era.
57:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, what's the upside to pick at that?
57:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, you got within one point against the jets at home.
57:35
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's pretty damn close.
57:37
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a good brother.
57:38
[SPEAKER_02]: What's true?
57:39
[SPEAKER_02]: At the end of the day, that's absolutely true.
57:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious to hear your take.
57:42
[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about Brad Berry earlier earlier.
57:45
[SPEAKER_02]: And he, you know, had his, I think his best game this season so far, which is, which is nice to see and kind of understandable considering the offensive line, it takes some cohesion, right, takes time to get that cohesion.
58:00
[SPEAKER_02]: But when would you like to see Logan Jones in there?
58:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
58:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Last week.
58:07
[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean,
58:11
[SPEAKER_01]: For now, it's, it's a tough conversation, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's going to matter a lot to this offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're calls the way that they're protecting things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The way the rum blocks go, that the center is getting it right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's you in this offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The center is getting it right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why Brad Veriser and that's why he's starting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, I'd like to see Logan Jones be ready, frankly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's 25 year old rookie who was picked in the second rap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard for me to say that I shouldn't be playing.
58:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but at the end of the day, I get why Brad Barry's the better choice right now.
58:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never been, honestly, I've never been a big Brad Barry fan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it like I was, I felt like week one, kind of my savings throughout our online show was like, yeah, this is what Kara Brad Barry is like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It, he's going to get the calls right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to provide you some nice stuff on reach blocks on zone blocking concepts and like being able to have that mobility.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But why not one against no stack?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's going to get me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's just kind of the way it works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's, I compared to Colvin shell, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is a slightly lesser version of Colvin shell to me because I was certain as the same.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, Colvin shell, we could really hit some reach blocks, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, and I think Bradbury's kind of been the opposite.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're like, he can do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But people aren't paying their hat on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get him back here and get him in here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of bounce from place to place, because he's getting it done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not excelling at the reach box in my mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, hey,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd love it if it proves me wrong about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd love it if he goes out and kicks ass the rest of the season and keeps Logan Jones at bay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think a realistic goal for Logan Jones is probably like the bears have a late later buy this year, like the after the buy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Coming out of the buy, it's like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like week nine or week 10, buy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So somewhere right around there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So back half the season, I'd like to see Logan Jones
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's, that's, you know, that's a vote of confidence for Bradbury's.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like we talked about it, you know, he, if he didn't have the game he had last week, I'm sure your tune would be a little bit different right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, you know, we, you know, in, in Ben, we trust.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, well, definitely, I guess, I don't know if that last game changed my tune all that much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To be honest, I think it's more like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I feel pretty confident in knowing the player that he is at this point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad he wasn't wasn't liability out there for them, but I feel like I still know the planet like that didn't change my opinion of him as a player in that match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been waiting up to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can't wait to see Logan Jones in there.
1:01:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, when you draft an O-Lime and out of the University of Iowa, you know, you're gonna get a solid guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Kirk Fair, I'm an I-1, so I watch the Hawkeye's a lot blinding, but that's like Kirk Fair wants his forte.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He always gets dudes ready for the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Plus, you know, if you think about it the last time the Chicago Bears won the Super Bowl, Jay Hilcombberg,
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[SPEAKER_00]: he was an Iowa Hawkeye as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, so, you know, we got to repeat history.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see, but hey, man, this has been a lot of fun, Quentin Cresco, let the listeners know where they can find you each and every week.
1:01:43
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[SPEAKER_00]: very nice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's it's good stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Highly recommend checking it out, especially if love X's and I was stuff.
1:02:58
[SPEAKER_00]: You will love the podcast and maybe we'll have to get you back on the show whenever Logan Jones breaks the starting line.
1:03:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that should be the goal.
1:03:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And when he comes in the next week, we bring Q back on the show.
1:03:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let me know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll have to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll just make sure I get the video done before the episode, but I'm the I'm game.
1:03:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we might have to bring Ron on to if he'd be down.
1:03:17
[SPEAKER_02]: That mean if he's got time in his schedule.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm I'm a hobbyist with the O' line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ron Robb knows.
1:03:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's stuff like it's that it's the reason he's on that show with me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It checked me and make sure I'm right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I know he's being the Chicago sports all of them too, so yeah, he makes time for it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's cool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, well, maybe if they have both of you guys back when Logan Jones starts, you know, might be soon in the later, so be ready.
1:03:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, thanks for coming all cute.
1:03:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we really appreciate this.
1:03:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Appreciate you guys having me.
1:03:48
[SPEAKER_00]: It's good to have Brian.
1:03:50
[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't really promoted our stuff at Wendy City Griron since the season start.
1:03:54
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you, what do you have on tap coming at WCG?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I have, um, I've got my players to watch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I, I like a player and offense and defense of the are opponent every week on Saturday before the game.
1:04:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I don't go with the superstar typically, um, I try to get an un, un, unheralded guy from the other side that's kind of keep an eye on.
1:04:19
[SPEAKER_02]: This past week I had Andrew McCuba, uh, who I was watching.
1:04:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And, um, let's see on offense, who did I have for the Eagles?
1:04:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I had, um, gosh, I'm drawing a blank right now.
1:04:33
[SPEAKER_00]: It was Eagles, and I had, I don't know if you're going to look up your articles here because it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't Jalen, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, hold on, hold on, um, that's funny.
1:04:53
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, kind of lemon.
1:04:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, um, they try to give them the ball, but didn't work out so well, hey, he was open in the middle of the field for half the game.
1:05:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and that's the thing, man, you talk about Dennis Allen, like, you know, he, he's smart enough to know your strengths, right?
1:05:11
[SPEAKER_02]: And so that's where I think you're right when it comes to daring the jets to run the ball.
1:05:17
[SPEAKER_02]: know, hopefully he does that.
1:05:18
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I haven't even really looked at the O'Line close enough in New York to know if that's the case because I loved him about coming out.
1:05:24
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I knew for Shana was more of a finesse guy.
1:05:26
[SPEAKER_02]: New tipman was more of a finesse guy.
1:05:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't really paid attention to that, but I've paid attention to Breeze Hall.
1:05:31
[SPEAKER_02]: And I've wondered why he's not been as strong this year.
1:05:35
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's a fascinating thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think, you know, it'll be interesting to see.
1:05:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Because what does that mean?
1:05:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Does that mean we play with three linebackers when we have all season?
1:05:44
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't mean that was anything.
1:05:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it means to play lighter.
1:05:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you see more nickel than you have.
1:05:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they've actually played more base than I expected them to.
1:05:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, because then he'll pass them off.
1:05:54
[SPEAKER_02]: So, so right.
1:05:55
[SPEAKER_02]: So that means you got canned the fees healthy back in the slot, which by the way, you know, what are your thoughts on Kyle?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would love to hear your thoughts on this, Bitey, before you leave.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been vocal on my own podcast and saying just get rid of them like it, like whatever.
1:06:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do we do it what Ryan takes the drink?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Guys videos of him are like sprinting and doing all these things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my calf can't put like what are we doing?
1:06:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It's insane to me that he's at this point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that he he just came back to be in a full part of this Finn today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like Jaylin threw some shade at him during training camp at one point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like the coaching staff has thrown shade at him.
1:06:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sure.
1:06:44
[SPEAKER_01]: GM threw shade at him.
1:06:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that is pretty telling to me pretty loudly that like you have not been in the right with many of these people, which makes me pretty against questions in the way that you've done stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, as a player, Kyler, and I know you're not saying anything as a player, I think you're fully aware of what he brings from changes up the dynamic nature of our defense when he's on the field, right?
1:07:16
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just he improves our run defense, you know, he's talking about like madden points, like tenfold in madden when it comes to just run defense, and then he's also
1:07:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's something to be said there, but wins cover a multitude of sins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If he can come back and make him win all as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think also, as far as I was a coach as well, not at the university level, call it collegiate level.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But,
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, every player is different in unique and color has always marched to the beat of his own drum right he's been a dancer it's whole life he's done all sorts of unique and different things he's just stylistically is different in unique as a person and so I'm not holding any of that against him I do think it's it's different and it's off the beaten path and maybe not you know what the team is used to but again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: wins cover a multitude of sins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So get back in here, help us win some games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't get hurt again, right?
1:08:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And nobody's going to remember this crap, right?
1:08:25
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, you know, I don't think we get rid of him.
1:08:28
[SPEAKER_02]: If we didn't sign him to an extension, yes.
1:08:31
[SPEAKER_02]: get rid of his ass, but we just did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let him get back healthy, you know, and I love and hate.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How Ben has been like, you know, with with no kid gloves on, right?
1:08:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't I have no updates on on him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what he's doing, right?
1:08:47
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, bring him back, Winston games, you know, make some tackles for some turnovers and and all as well, because he is he is a piece
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, talent no question, like, and then he has a physical football player on Sunday's Wednesdays on the field, which I have a theory here with this that, you know, it's tin foil hat mode, like there's no true information here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is just wild guesses.
1:09:15
[SPEAKER_01]: But my theory is that after last year, right, the bear said, okay, we need Kyler to prove to us that he's going to be available for this football team.
1:09:28
[SPEAKER_01]: He gets the camp after they draft the guy they plan to play in the nickel, that could be seen as his replacement, despite being a fifth round pick or fourth round or whatever it really was, that still replacement for him in my mind.
1:09:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And they tell Kyler, you have to early your job, he's competing with the rookie.
1:09:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And then in my mind, I believe that Kyler and I say believe I'm theorizing that Kyler said, well, I'm not competing if my calf's not right.
1:09:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Screw that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go get my calf right done.
1:10:01
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to make me compete making 12 13 million a year on this brand new contract.
1:10:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:10:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:10:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And it just creates this this divide between the team and Kyler and coaches
1:10:13
[SPEAKER_01]: when at the end of the day, if you just compete for like two days, he's probably the bona fide star.
1:10:18
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, that's where my first relation comes from is that thought process of how you got here, it just seems so sick.
1:10:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it'd be really interesting actually Brian, I was talking on a letter about this earlier today about where they play him when he can play, you know, like does he play outside?
1:10:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Do they even like give him a look out at safety?
1:10:40
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he, he, he, they play him in a multitude of areas, special with Malik coming on and looking like one of the best players on the defense already this year.
1:10:48
[SPEAKER_00]: That will be, that'll be a whole different story line.
1:10:50
[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think that
1:10:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, when it comes down to it, if he comes back, he makes some plays.
1:10:56
[SPEAKER_00]: People will forget quickly about all this drama that's been going on.
1:11:01
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like he showed up in the playoffs a little bit when he played last year.
1:11:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, we'll see, obviously, the team's better when he's out.
1:11:07
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a super talented guy.
1:11:09
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just been really, really frustrating.
1:11:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he was going to trade for him at this point.
1:11:13
[SPEAKER_00]: So, get him on the field, see what can happen.
1:11:17
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